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| What makes a good incest novel? | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| The absence of the “step-“ | |
| It just kills the boner, don’t it? | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| Make it wholesome and consensual | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| Number of teenage girls who get wet reading it | |
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| I haven't read Flowers in the Attic but at one point mention of it somewhere led me to read the plot summary on Wikipedia. I like the premise a lot, it seems like a pretty good story. Is the writing any good? I'll probably never read it either way I guess. | |
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| >>21917924 | |
| It's decent entertaining, though I haven't read too much of it yet. | |
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| >>21917967 | |
| decent and* | |
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| >>21916314 | |
| obviously | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| This one, but it's not translated yet. | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| I used to be oddly obsessed with V.C. Andrews in high school. Not sure why. Probably my latent autism | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| There should be a lot of build up and tension, with genuine chemistry between the particular family members. The taboo is part of what makes it more interesting than a ordinary romance so it must lean into the taboo as a source of tension and conflict rather than brush it off or ignore it. | |
| There needs to be close calls, and the ever present threat of serious consequences if lines are crossed or the lovers are caught. | |
| Also a focus on a combination of sentimental and sensuality to bring new texture to familiar situations. This allows for erotic tension to be built in normally ordinary scenes. Suddenly eating breakfast or getting something from a slightly cramped laundry room takes on a totally different dynamic when the two are together. | |
| I don't actually have any novel recommendations. It's just something that comes up in manga and the free erotica I got off on in my teens. So the story pattern of stories that work are engrained in my head. | |
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| >>21919693 | |
| >I don't actually have any novel recommendations | |
| Thankfully I saved a list, and nearly none of these are smutty garbage. | |
| >Bro/Sis | |
| Forbidden by Tabitha Suzuma | |
| A Spell of Winter by Helen Dunmore | |
| Ada or Ardor by Nabokov | |
| The Holy Terrors by Jean Cocteau | |
| My Sister's Keeper by R.V. Cassill | |
| 'Tis Pity She's A Whore by John Ford (A Play) | |
| Flowers in the Attic by V.C. Andrews | |
| The Maias by José Maria de Eça de Queirós | |
| Canada by Richard Ford (Weak) | |
| Outer Dark by Cormac McCarthy (Weak) | |
| >Mom/Son | |
| The Crime of Olga Arbyelina by Andrei Makine | |
| The Death of Sweet Mister by Daniel Woodrell | |
| Time Enough for Love by Heinlein | |
| The Oedipus Cycle by Sophocles | |
| My Mother by Bataille | |
| A Garden of Sand by Earl Thompson | |
| Flesh and Blood by Pete Hamill | |
| >Undefined/Other/Weaker Presence | |
| Cousin Bette by Balzac | |
| Angels & Insects by A.S. Byatt | |
| Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald | |
| The Holy Sinner by Thomas Mann | |
| The Cement Garden by Ian McEwan | |
| The Crimes of Love by de Sade | |
| de Sade's other books | |
| Gabriel Garcia Marquez's books | |
| Heinlein apparently has incest in many of his books | |
| Faulkner's books | |
| The Shipping News by E. Annie Proulx | |
| Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter by Mario Vargas Llosa | |
| Lie Down in Darkness by William Styron | |
| Moon Tiger by Penelope Lively | |
| Independent People by Halldor Laxness | |
| Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick | |
| The Children of Hurin by Tolkein | |
| The Sunne In Splendour: A Novel of Richard III by Sharon Kay Penman | |
| The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield | |
| The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón | |
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| >>21919754 | |
| No Dad and daughter? | |
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| >>21919754 | |
| Good list, thanks bro. | |
| I'm reading Flowers right now, and I'm actually more engrossed in the story than I thought I'd be. The prose isn't anything revolutionary, but the verbosity feeds well into the gothic aesthetic, and the descriptive language establishes a feel of intimacy with the characters that is crucial for such a story. | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| >>21919693 | |
| imo these ones fit that exact vibe | |
| Fake Flower | |
| >Nora in the Sun | |
| >Facial / Cream | |
| >Wash Me | |
| Mr Here | |
| >Loving Mom | |
| >A Mother's Worry | |
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| >>21920372 | |
| >Facial/Cream | |
| That sounds like smut, but I am going to check it out regardless. | |
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| >>21919754 | |
| I updated this list a month ago. | |
| Haven't read most of these, just going off goodreads reviews of the contents. "Other" includes books with weaker or an unknown amount of incest, not just other relationship types. | |
| B/S | |
| Forbidden by Tabitha Suzuma | |
| A Spell of Winter by Helen Dunmore | |
| Ada or Ardor by Nabokov | |
| The Holy Terrors by Jean Cocteau | |
| My Sister's Keeper by R.V. Cassill | |
| The Maias by José Maria de Eça de Queirós | |
| 'Tis Pity She's A Whore by John Ford (A Play) | |
| Flowers in the Attic by V.C. Andrews | |
| Hale by K. Webster | |
| The Passenger by Cormac McCarthy (might be weak idk) | |
| M/S | |
| The Crime of Olga Arbyelina by Andrei Makine | |
| The Death of Sweet Mister by Daniel Woodrell | |
| Time Enough for Love by Heinlein | |
| The Oedipus Cycle by Sophocles | |
| My Mother by Bataille | |
| A Garden of Sand by Earl Thompson | |
| Flesh and Blood by Pete Hamill | |
| Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami (dropped it, one instance I think) | |
| Other | |
| Cousin Bette by Balzac (obv C/C) | |
| Angels & Insects by A.S. Byatt (B/S?) | |
| Tender is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald (F/D) | |
| The Holy Sinner by Thomas Mann (M/S) | |
| The Cement Garden by Ian McEwan (B/S?) | |
| The Crimes of Love by de Sade | |
| de Sade's other books | |
| Gabriel Garcia Marquez's books | |
| Heinlein books (M/S) | |
| Faulkner's books (idk) | |
| The Shipping News by E. Annie Proulx (unknown, maybe A/N and F/D?) | |
| Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter by Mario Vargas Llosa (other types and A/N) | |
| Lie Down in Darkness by William Styron (F/D) | |
| Moon Tiger by Penelope Lively (B/S) | |
| Independent People by Halldor Laxness (one instance F/D) | |
| Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick (B/S) | |
| The Children of Hurin by Tolkein (accident B/S?) | |
| Canada by Richard Ford (one instance B/S) | |
| Outer Dark by Cormac McCarthy (before the book events B/S) | |
| The Wild by K. Webster (F/D) | |
| The Sunne In Splendour: A Novel of Richard III by Sharon Kay Penman | |
| The Thirteenth Tale by Diane Setterfield (implied B/S) | |
| The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafón (half B/S) | |
| Knut by Tom Mallin (B/S) | |
| The Tragedy of the Street Flowers by José Maria de Eça de Queirós (M/S) | |
| Repeat It Today with Tears by Anne Peile (F/D) | |
| Ancient Tillage by Raduan Nassar (B/S) | |
| >>21919759 | |
| I included the relationship types in this updated list. There's a few F/D | |
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| >>21919754 | |
| >>21921816 | |
| >nearly none of these are smutty garbage. | |
| Ok, which ones are really vile, so I can avoid reading them, thus preserving my almost childish innocence intact. | |
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| >>21922362 | |
| Just watch porn if you want to jerk off. | |
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| >>21919544 | |
| What's it about? | |
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| >>21923646 | |
| there isn't enough plot in porn | |
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| test | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| Build-up, tension, and most importantly unconditional love. the fact that you can show yourself how you really are to your family member and not only they will accept you but love you and support you even more and you will do the same for them. | |
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| >>21917759 | |
| Consent between persons is the worst thing the enlightenment ever conceived | |
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| >>21926220 | |
| t. Romanian town rapist | |
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| >>21916276 (OP) | |
| Is there a way to do it through a series that isn't degenerate like GRRM. | |
| I'm writing a series that is heavily inspired by Jung and the anima as well as just childhood psychosexuality, fear of intimacy, sexual guilt and so on, and I don't plan on writing the actual sex, but I want there to be an inevitable realization that the mother character and son end up becoming lovers, as the process of the anima becomes realized in Jungian fashion | |
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| >>21926657 | |
| >Is there a way to do something that at it's core is degenerate in a way that makes it not degenerate? | |
| While I know what you actually mean the answer is basically still no since fundamental no matter how squeaky clean and intellectual you make it it's still really degenerate. | |
| It be like trying to intellectualize eating shit or justify murdering children. | |
| You just have to deal with it being degenerate and tell the story you want to anyway. | |