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let us remember , Mr. Speaker , that these segments of our society form the backbone of our economy .  
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Mr. Speaker , my question is directed to the Minister of Transport .  
both have many years experience in the manufacture and distribution of forest products .  
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another point I should like to discuss is the right of the supplier to choose his customers as he sees fit .  
i am getting sick and tired of ministers who seem to have some hang - up with regard to the collective bargaining process .  
there is just one specific item more that I would like to comment upon and then I will sit down , Mr. Speaker .  
order , please .  
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i can refer him to no better authority on the subject than the hon. member for Don Valley , not just myself .  
it is quite understandable .  
in addition , it could become a serious threat to Confederation and national unity .  
in view of this , we deemed it inadvisable to attend the meeting and so informed COJO .  
Mr. Speaker , the minister suggested that a greater building program might lead to inflationary pressure .  
i disagree with the argument advanced by the minister .  
there is a lot to be said on both sides of that question .  
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Mr. Speaker , as I indicated to the Leader of the Opposition , I would hope to make an announcement on this question on November 1 .  
quite right .  
it does not bring anybody closer to rehabilitation to isolate him from the public .  
he left a wife and family .  
on a point of order , Mr. Chairman , I am sure the hon. member for Verdun would not have denigrated my position .  
can the insurance industry in turn act as an airline ?  
i say this to you , Mr. Speaker : the people of Toronto know the government has no answers .  
their evidence on the state of each stock was taken fully into account .  
thank you very much , Mr. Speaker , and I thank hon. members for allowing me the privilege to continue .  
i urge this intensive study , Mr. Speaker , for we know so little about the reasons that turn people into criminals .  
the government must assist its own employees who may need another language to advance their careers .  
i do not have any qualms about the type of language I use .  
motion agreed to .  
Mr. Speaker , no decision has been reached as yet but I should think so .  
the matter of trade relations with our European counterparts should be very seriously considered .  
what we should be concerned with in this country is the situation when these animals are shipped out of Canada for this purpose .  
they have already given an indication of the branches they intend to close .  
this minister watched while half the proceeds and profits of the Canadian agriculture industry were swept away in a budget speech .  
Mr. Chairman , absolutely none .  
we are analysing the report now and I hope to have some information for the House in the near future .  
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i would therefore move , seconded by the hon. member for Dartmouth - Halifax East ( Mr. Forrestall ) :  
when we realize the extent of the ravages caused by organized crime in our country , we must consider deep - rooted solutions .  
but oh how their popularity soared and they coasted through on that .  
( 2 ) A committee is bound by , and not at liberty to depart from , the order of reference .  
there is one other point I should like to make , and I do so as I feel this is a general debate .  
in December there was an announcement that British Columbia would be withdrawing from CEMA .  
they have also given rise to considerable opposition by hon. members in all parties on this side of the House .  
those are not the lines that one should be concerned about at this time .  
i have allowed the hon. member two supplementaries and in fairness I think we should go to some other hon. members .  
i think that is good .  
i think that the time taken in handling routine applications for changes of facilities along a pipeline , for example , has been too long .  
he is the minister who is responsible for science and technology , and he does not know .  
federal government carpenters get $ 6.42 in Toronto and $ 5.23 in Halifax and Moncton .  
for the record I would like to refer to a press release which followed the federal - provincial conference of attorneys general in October , 1975 .  
Mr. Speaker , I rise on a point of order .  
i think the railroad term is « demand loading » .  
i will come to the cost of boats these days .  
in most provinces , general noise regulations have been implemented , the main principle of which is as follows :  
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after all , energy is used by people throughout the nation , and the government might well consider an approach using the incentive to which I have referred .  
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i will be glad , when we have time , to sit down with hon. members and work this matter out on a productive and prospective basis .  
will the minister take action to clear up any difficulties because of the absolute need for placing the orders now , and not some months from now ?  
it will spur the construction of new fishing boats and cause new processing facilities to be built .  
there are many things I could say about Bill C - 19 .  
i am going to say something a bit later on about that because I think it is essential to the kind of debate we are having this afternoon .  
companies find that the rules are complicated , cumbersome and changing all the time .  
Mr. Speaker , my question is for the minister in charge of the Canadian Wheat Board .  
i understand that a rate of at least 70 per cent per annum is being contemplated .  
it is our hope to make a decision this week .  
we accept your view .  
they fought an election on that position .  
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Mr. Speaker , I say to that : what a cruel hoax , because a hoax it is .  
Mr. Speaker , we will try to stick to that suggestion .  
1 . ( a ) $ 98,355 . ( b ) They are distributed through major post offices across the country .  
crime is a national problem according to our constitution , while law enforcement is a provincial and local responsibility .  
i submit that what I say is pertinent to the bill , to moneys being spent on medicare and the manner in which they are spent .  
a few words about this disease might help to put things into perspective .  
fortunately they are fewer this year , more reasonable and responsible , more conciliatory .  
this bill has been before the House for more than a year .  
retired December 30 , 1975 following completion of 34 years of public service .  
passage of the hon. member 's motion would mean that the content requirements are spelled out in the statute and we could debate them .  
this does not necessarily indicate non - compliance on the part of the parties .  
i was not asking for a detailed explanation as to what he was doing .  
how can so much be asked , on the one hand , and so little answered on the other ?  
as a result , perhaps he will bring in different legislation which will not lay him open to the charge of censorship .  
either they do their job properly , or you must get the power so that you can be sure that they do it properly .  
in our national capital we have all the strains and all the divergencies of our country .  
hon. John N . Turner ( Minister of Finance ) moved :  
as much as I hate to admit it , there has been good legislation brought in by Liberal governments in this country --  
as the member for the neighbouring riding I am well aware of his persistence and hard work .  
where is the AIB ?  
at the moment , that fact , unfortunately , is seen in two - thirds of the country not as an opportunity , but as a barrier to opportunity .  
do not force a moratorium down our throats .  
this not the first time that members of parliament are going to hear that .  
the same recommendation was made in the report of the Standing Committee on Privileges and Elections on April 29 of last year .  
Mr. Speaker , I am afraid the hon. member is ill informed .  
in the MOT accident report it is stated :  
Mr. Speaker , the federal offer was for a $ 100 million program .  
in most samples of this size -- that is , a group of over 500 -- this would be called negligible .  
the traditional procedure for seeking new borrowing powers is to attach a clause to supply bills brought before the House .  
this strikes at the roots of democracy , and it is the right of the people to know .  
this would relieve the pressure on oil .  
the Special Investigation Division has not been in existence since early 1975 .  
moreover , this is not a matter of saying whether we are for or against some sort of assistance for adoptive parents .  
let us see the documents .  
canada has continued to give its support to the NATO alliance as an absolutely indispensable deterrent and an absolutely indispensable assurance of our security .  
can you believe such a ban in 1978 ?  
no , Mr. Chairman .  
naturally , the government attempts to get the best possible deal for the Canadian public in any series of negotiations .  
i would add , Mr. Speaker , that it must be continued .  
if I want any statistics as to where this country stands , certainly I will not refer to the speech made by the Prime Minister .  
we looked at all the implications of that .  
perhaps it would be a good idea for me to quote a Timmins newspaper because maybe it relates to the hon. member .  
Mr. Speaker , indeed I have the final report from the Prairie Rail Action Committee .  
( ii ) ( a ) Three vehicles will be used by six Canadian experts related to the provision of technical assistance .  
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and we will implement every recommendation in the Auditor General 's report , something which we have been calling for over the last ten years .  
first , Mr. Speaker , I should like to make a few general remarks .  
Mr. Chairman , I will see if there is such a figure available , but I would quarrel with the words of the hon. member .  
i know he would not want to divert me from responding to a very serious question by his colleague .  
continually we get the message from across the way that this program will cost the government something .  
that is the crowd which did not like the 18 cents .  
what is at issue here is the principle that the public of Canada has a right to know about the constitution of Canada .  
they want to pick and choose what they will support .  
do you have it in writing ?  
i realize , Mr. Chairman , that there is no magic solution .  
in 1978 Americans divorced 1,122,000 times .  
the very result of unemployment breaks up families , and contributes to excessive alcohol and drug use .  
the official opposition was trying to destroy Petro - Canada in the short six months it was in office .  
instead of causing an internal schism ,  
and now they are applauding themselves for voting against security of supply .  
as to making contributions , I am reminded of a story .  
madam Speaker , I would like to hear from the hon. member before I move my motion .  
the previous speaker also mentioned they would like to have the provinces involved in preparations for any meetings .  
my friend from Toronto says 53 more years .  
all of those estimates indicate that Canada will be in much more trouble as a result of the National Energy Program than we were in before .  
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indeed , there will be more divisiveness than positive effects .  
world - wide inflation is causing a severe form of economic dislocation .  
the PT7 represents the beginning of a new family of engines in a power range above that of the highly successful PT6 engine .  
Mr. Speaker , I welcome the opportunity to join in this adjournment debate --  
the competition policy is as vital to an industrial strategy as the over - all plan or the specific set of plans which should be developed .  
we are now talking about $ 45 billion to construct the pipeline .  
these flaws are all reflected in this bill .  
at this stage of the debate of the resolution , there are three specific amendments which my party proposes to introduce .  
the government cannot claim that there is any change in the balance of ways and means .  
a substantial provision of federal assistance for regional development comes under this program , RIDA , and subsidiary units .  
what did the government do ?  
he said that if we use unemployment as the solution to inflation , we will get recovery .  
conservation is beginning to have its effect .  
there could be a steel mill in British Columbia , for example .  
order , please .  
that is why professionals should not be charged for their work in progress .  
i believe , Mr. Speaker , that what is happening today is a good thing but it is just the beginning .  
however , the people of Canada are responsible for making those payments .  
we are now faced with legislation that is designed to withdraw from programs that were introduced at a time when we could afford them .  
that is why we had to import 25,000 skilled workers into this country at a time when unemployment was rising .  
as Carter said back in the 1960s , « A buck is a buck is a buck » and should be taxed as such .  
order , please .  
all of this means a total cut over the next two years of $ 2,958 , or 15 per cent of the original $ 20,000 salary .  
we heard in the news this morning that the Heath - Steele mine in northern New Brunswick is being closed down .  
they are ready to follow our leadership .  
we have a number of those kinds of programs and discussions going on at the present moment .  
out of that momentum of ideas and activity , we have to ask ourselves , why has the development problem not been solved ?  
i would like to end on a positive note , Mr. Speaker .  
i want to make it plain , Mr. Speaker , that the federal government does not set retail prices .  
the House met at 2 p.m.  
i remind hon. members that the minister in respect of transmission lines referred to the same power that now exist .  
that is truly a laudable goal with which we all agree .  
madam Speaker , I have a supplementary question for the Minister of Transport .  
let me come now to Petro - Canada .  
this will result in tremendous savings .  
unfortunately , no one seems to know what the effect will be .  
we have allowed a subgovernment across the country to remove power from the House of Commons .  
that is quite substantial .  
what exactly is going on over there ?  
madam Speaker , I will be very brief .  
that Government simply tells the people what is good for them .  
it is the seasonally adjusted figures which show the .5 per cent drop which are the important figures .  
the Chair is really embarrassed by what is taking place .  
Mr. Speaker , I am sorry , I have not seen the statement by a British firm .  
fewer volunteers are available because so many women have returned to the work force .  
they work with them .  
it depends on the extent to which they apply themselves .  
i do not know if there is a Member in this House who would oppose allocating more money for the elderly .  
they also have a role to play in the food chain .  
this has given a more democratic element to the things we were faced with in our constituency .  
the problem is to obscure the memories of everyone who heard the Minister 's stupid statements of a week ago .  
will the Ministry fill in the ravine at the end of runway 24L at the Pearson International Airport at Toronto ?  
if we ever introduce such legislation , I will remind him of his offer .  
my response is , so what ?  
this , Sir , is what I recommend to the House .  
whether that will do any good , I do not know .  
that is the principle which must guide the Alliance in the future as we seek fair and verifiable agreements with the Soviet Union .  
i guess the same kind of answer would have to apply to the matter of automobiles .  
they are bringing before the House a Bill that will restrict those liberties .  
for debate , the Hon. Member for Bow River ( Mr. Taylor ) .  
Mr. Speaker , I rise on a point of order .  
the Government refuses to believe it .  
those were very challenging commitments , a sort of preview of what the very important agricultural sector might become .  
there are two revolving - door syndrome and gating .  
i hope he will be back with that mobilized public opinion .  
i think the argument being made by the Government is faulty .  
however , we do have enough money to bail out two banks .  
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it can be stolen just as other types of property can be stolen .  
and , second , Mr. Speaker , what we have been doing since last November is building up a climate of confidence .  
members should know that credit unions are a very big factor in financial institutions in western Canada .  
the Member for Cochrane - Superior ( Mr. Penner ) said earlier tonight that the onus is on the Government to free up its Members .  
that is my point .  
what of women who live far from centres where these services are available ?  
they ask the Members of this House to put an end to all cuts in personnel at these shops .  
it is not a question of joining ; we are well ahead .  
in an article written by Dr. Kenneth Hare , recognized in this country as being one of our foremost atmospheric scientists , the following appears :  
the impact is pervasive .  
in other words , a subsidy of about $ 2 per bushel will come from the Reagan administration to the grain farmers of the United States .  
the full report will be coming in before the fall .  
if these rules were put in place , would we indeed be treating everyone in the same way ?  
in them this former distinguished Speaker of the House talked about sexual harassment where some women had to disrobe to qualify for their jobs .  
i am simply alerting Members to a problem that I see , given what has been happening .  
the Conservatives while in Opposition , of course , said quite the contrary to what they are doing now .  
in point of fact , both the Minister of Justice and the Solicitor General have responded fully , as best human beings can .  
does the Deputy Prime Minister believe that this is the way for a responsible Government , or an independent nation , to make an international treaty ?  
the parliamentary subcommittee is considering the whole question of equality rights .  
the fact is that no applications involving fewer than four student employees is being subjected to any test of whether or not the jobs are career oriented .  
we also want a series of objective criteria based on factors such as those I am referring to .  
if we proceed on that basis in this or in any other direction in public life , we will always be able to find excuses .  
then you brought in your program , the hotel went down the tube and Fort St. John became a ghost town .  
well , in six months , we did consult , we sat down with the Minister and hammered out an agreement .  
the Right Hon. Member might disagree with her perspective as well .  
" let us try it , " they say , " and see if it works .  
approximately $ 3 million of this amount is allocated from DREE funds , with the remainder being committed by the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development .  
it cannot be stressed too often that Canadians are disturbed by the increase in violent crime .  
grain exports are projected to fall by 25 per cent in the 1984 - 85 crop year .  
we are so far behind in this field it makes the whole country feel embarassed .  
they do not really change the status .  
there is no longer any distinction to be made on a rational basis between an intermediate range and an intercontinental range nuclear missile .  
could I ask the Member for Western Arctic for a brief answer , if possible .  
greater Victoria is a tourist mecca .  
that tax will not be collected and then refunded .  
there has been a commitment in the past that their participation rate would go at least to historic levels if not traditional levels .  
that is to say , at the request of the person who may be going to declare his refugee claim .  
that is the actual situation .  
equalization payments have become quite considerable through the years .  
it has been a matter of concern to representatives of all parties .  
i would also like to advise the House that there was a degree of consultation with respect to the PC caucus members from Manitoba .  
the part played by military personnel and their families in the life of the town will be long remembered in a most favourable light .  
with great respect , I must interrupt .  
i explained it then .  
if the Prime Minister said that he was willing to resume negociations with Quebec , why are they in such a hurry to pass this Bill ?  
in fact , that is why a number of my colleagues have spoken out quite vigorously on the subject .  
i should like to put on the record just exactly what is in the notes on the financial statement of March 31 , 1984 .  
that judgment is sent to the individual in question .  
that does not make sense .  
Mr. Speaker , many authorities were involved in acting on this emergency .  
however , what happened to the studies that were conducted after that incident occurred ?  
there was a clear understanding by the former Minister of Transport that these regulations would not be promulgated for a year .  
i feel that is an attitude in Cabinet which we do not have the luxury of allowing to continue .  
in other words , Mr. Speaker , the Government must implement the recommendations of the Commissioner of Official Languages .  
they will then reduce the number of jobs because what they buy will be a duplication of other operations they have .  
it is at the second stage of review that the Supreme Court has ruled that a hearing is compulsory .  
as for lawyers specialized in immigration matters , the Bar takes upon itself to penalize them .  
the alternative in terms of foreign investment is loan capital .  
does he want to wait until the economy of those rural areas is completely down before responding to the acid rain problem ?  
i think that should not be too difficult to understand .  
however , we must not forget that the majority of beef and pork producers have rejected outright any mechanisms for marketing stabilization .  
if I had been in Bryce 's position , I would have been right in there with my nose to the public trough with the rest of them .  
in other words , we consider that the political role and the administrative role should be kept separate .  
as a result , the Government had to take steps to see that the company was taken over .  
all of these heritage places are managed by Parks Canada for the benefit and enjoyment of all Canadians .  
as I indicated earlier in this ruling , such discrimination was not envisaged in the Bill when it was given second reading .  
there is a role for both the public and the private sector .  
there will be more criticism , perhaps , because this Government , as I understand it , is committed to making things more open to the public .  
that is not good enough .  
he was the one who told us that the construction of a maintenance centre for VIA Rail in Montreal would be indefinitely postponed .  
but then Mr. Baldwin said :  
we want full public disclosure of company commitments involved in take - overs of Canadian business .  
there is also a need to co - ordinate with provincial Governments as to what certain areas require .  
they are of the opinion that by just changing the name from FIRA to Investment Canada we are going to have an automatic inflow of dollars .  
can the Minister tell this House what position the Canadian Government will take in this regard ?  
it is nine months since the election of this Government and we have yet to see a Budget .  
we currently allow the Canadian amateur athletic associations to be registered , and it is my belief that we should allow the provincial groups as well to be registered .  
a Canadian amateur athletic association by definition includes federal associations but does not include their provincial counterparts .  
to this battle Canada gave 1,800 gallant sailors and 24 proud ships .  
i find it incredible that the President of the Treasury Board would be laughing about a matter as serious as this .  
they have also asked for additional funding .  
well , everyone would agree with that .  
it is no wonder that there was no permanent chief executive officer for over 12 months .  
the Minister spoke of meetings and I applaud that .  
we had to put that in St. John 's .  
that is an accurate description of what is happening .  
they cannot be treated in isolation .