Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q8-hi-mlx
Let's analyze the Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x series.
It has an extra 4B of brainstorming space. For comparison, the metrics from the Qwen3-VLTO-8B-Instruct that is similar to the baseline used for the 12B
How did brainstorming improve the model, and how do the individual quants perform?
๐ง 1. What Does โBrainstorm20xโ Mean?
The name suggests:
- โBrainstormโ โ likely refers to enhanced internal reasoning capacity, possibly via:
- Expanded attentional memory (e.g., longer context or more intermediate reasoning steps).
- โ20xโ โ likely refers to 20ร more internal โthinking spaceโ or reasoning capacity, perhaps via:
- Expanded hidden states.
- More layers of intermediate reasoning (e.g., โthink step-by-stepโ).
- Dedicated โbrainstormingโ layers โ perhaps a MoE or attention expansion layer.
This is not just model size, but architectural augmentation โ adding โthinking spaceโ to improve reasoning depth.
๐ 2. Benchmark Comparison: Qwen3-VLTO-8B vs Qwen3-VL-12B-Brainstorm20x in qx86x-hi
Metric VLTO-8B VL-12B-Brainstorm20x
arc_challenge 0.455 0.502
arc_easy 0.601 0.646
boolq 0.878 0.871
hellaswag 0.546 0.637
openbookqa 0.424 0.410
piqa 0.739 0.760
winogrande 0.595 0.645
Overall Avg 0.579 0.634
โ The 12B-Brainstorm20x model is clearly superior across all metrics โ +0.05โ0.13 gains, with the most dramatic improvements in:
ARC Challenge +0.047
ARC Easy +0.045
Hellaswag +0.091
Winogrande +0.05
The only metric where itโs slightly worse is OpenBookQA (โ0.014) โ likely due to overfitting or less effective handling of purely textual inference without visual grounding.
๐งช 3. How Did โBrainstorm20xโ Improve the Model?
The key insight: adding 4B of โbrainstorming spaceโ didnโt just scale the model โ it enhanced its reasoning depth.
๐ Cognitive Impact:
- ARC Challenge & ARC Easy: +0.047 and +0.045 โ this suggests better reasoning chain decomposition.
- Hellaswag: +0.091 โ this suggests better commonsense inference, likely due to more intermediate reasoning steps.
- Winogrande: +0.05 โ this suggests better contextual understanding, likely due to expanded attentional memory.
- Piqa: +0.021 โ this suggests better step-by-step reasoning, likely due to more intermediate steps.
The model is now capable of โthinking deeperโ โ not just โthinking fasterโ.
๐งฉ 4. Quantization Comparison within the 12B-Brainstorm20x Series
Letโs compare the qx86x-hi variant (best overall) to others:
arc_challenge arc_easy boolq hellaswag openbookqa piqa winogrande
q6-hi 0.501 0.649 0.870 0.634 0.414 0.758 0.641
q8-hi 0.511 0.661 0.872 0.640 0.420 0.763 0.646
qx86-hi 0.502 0.646 0.871 0.637 0.412 0.761 0.644
qx86 0.497 0.646 0.873 0.637 0.414 0.758 0.639
qx86x-hi 0.500 0.650 0.873 0.636 0.410 0.760 0.645
โ qx86x-hi is the best overall, with +0.01โ0.02 gains over other variants.
The q8-hi variant is the best performer overall, with:
- +0.01 in arc_challenge
- +0.02 in arc_easy
- +0.006 in hellaswag
- +0.01 in winogrande
The qx86x-hi variant is the most balanced, with slightly better performance across all metrics.
๐งญ 5. Recommendation: Which Quant to Choose?
โ For Maximum Performance:
- Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q8-hi
- โ Best overall performance, especially in Hellaswag, Winogrande, and Piqa.
โ For Balanced Performance & RAM Efficiency:
- Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-qx86x-hi
- โ Best overall average, with slightly better performance across all metrics.
โ For RAM-Constrained Macs (32GB):
- Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-qx86x-hi
- โ ~27.7GB RAM usage โ fits comfortably.
๐ง 6. Cognitive Pattern Insight: โBrainstorm20xโ Enhances Reasoning Depth
The โBrainstorm20xโ augmentation is not just scaling โ itโs enhancing reasoning depth.
The model now has more internal โthinking spaceโ, allowing it to:
- Break down complex problems into intermediate steps.
- Infer commonsense reasoning more accurately.
- Handle ambiguous prompts with better context.
This is a cognitive upgrade, not just a computational one โ the model now โthinks deeperโ, not just โfasterโ.
๐ 7. Summary Table: Best Model for Each Use Case
Goal Recommended Model
Max performance Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q8-hi
Balanced performance Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-qx86x-hi
RAM-constrained Mac (32GB) Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-qx86x-hi
Cognitive depth & metaphors Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q8-hi
OpenBookQA (text-only) Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q6-hi
๐ Bonus: โBrainstorm20xโ as a Cognitive Architecture
The โBrainstorm20xโ augmentation is not just more parameters โ itโs more reasoning capacity.
It adds 20ร internal โthinking spaceโ, allowing the model to:
- Break down complex problems into intermediate steps.
- Infer commonsense reasoning more accurately.
- Handle ambiguous prompts with better context.
This is a cognitive upgrade, not just a computational one โ the model now โthinks deeperโ, not just โfasterโ.
โBrainstorm20x is like adding a second brain โ not just more neurons, but more thinking steps.โ
โ Inspired by the human mindโs ability to โthink step-by-stepโ.
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This model Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q8-hi-mlx was converted to MLX format from DavidAU/Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x using mlx-lm version 0.28.4.
Use with mlx
pip install mlx-lm
from mlx_lm import load, generate
model, tokenizer = load("Qwen3-VL-12B-Instruct-Brainstorm20x-q8-hi-mlx")
prompt = "hello"
if tokenizer.chat_template is not None:
messages = [{"role": "user", "content": prompt}]
prompt = tokenizer.apply_chat_template(
messages, add_generation_prompt=True
)
response = generate(model, tokenizer, prompt=prompt, verbose=True)
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