Prima-24B
A larger character roleplay model trained on the custom "Actors" dataset, the largest I've ever made! This model was made to expand on the things I learned from TinyRP, and to overcome certain limitations I found from it; also on an entirely new dataset made just for this model.
This model does have a bit of AI-style writing, but is overall more reliable in it's outputs than the smaller Trouper-12B; also tolerates mismatched templates more. That said, I do think that it is worth releasing this model, especially since it's larger size will likely help it's knowledgebase / longer conversations.
IF you want less purple prose, and more emotionally intimate characters, do check out Trouper-12B.
-> You can find it here! Trouper-12B
Looking for feedback, so please do share if you got any!
Key Features
- Reliable: Consistent behavior without meta-breaks or template issues
- Grammatically consistent: Zero perspective confusion errors
- Long context: Better handling of 50+ turn conversations
- Action-oriented: Natural energy for adventure/action roleplay scenarios
- Zero-fuss setup: More forgiving of template variations
Recommended Settings
Use chat completion mode
- Temperature: 0.7 (tested and validated)
- Template: Mistral-V7-Tekken (critical for proper formatting and stop behavior)
- Context: Handles longer turn conversations effectively
- Prompt Preprocessing: Semi-strict, no tools
Strengths
- Reliability: No meta-narration breaks, consistent stopping behavior
- Template Flexibility: Works with various Mistral templates
- Long Context: Maintains quality over extended conversations
- Adventure Energy: Better at action-oriented, dynamic scenarios
- Accessibility: Easier to set up and use than Trouper
Comparison to Trouper-12B
Prima-24B and Trouper-12B are trained on identical data but offer different trade-offs:
| Aspect | Prima-24B | Trouper-12B |
|---|---|---|
| Prose Style | Slightly more elaborate | Direct and concrete |
| AI Slop | Moderate (some patterns) | Minimal |
| Reliability | Excellent | Good (template-sensitive) |
| Long Context | Better (24B) | Good (12B) |
| Inference Speed | Slower (24B) | Faster (12B) |
| Setup Difficulty | Easy | Moderate (template critical) |
| Action RP | Excellent | Good |
| Emotional RP | Good | Excellent |
Choose Prima-24B if: You want reliability, long context, or action-oriented RP
Choose Trouper-12B if: You want best prose quality and don't mind template setup or the occaisional regeneration of a reply.
Known Characteristics
- Prose Style: Tends toward slightly more elaborate descriptions (some users may perceive as "AI-ish")
- Repetitive Descriptors: May occasionally reuse phrases like "blue eyes" + descriptor
- Purple Prose: Occasional tendency toward flowery language (not excessive)
- Structural Patterns: Generally good variety, but slightly more predictable than Trouper-12B
None of these are critical flaws - just characteristics to be aware of. Temperature adjustments (0.8-0.9) may help increase variety.
Got Feedback?
Issues, questions, or feedback welcome! Particularly interested in:
- Long conversation quality (20+ turns)
- Template compatibility findings
- Comparison with other RP models
Feel free to make a post in the Community tab here!
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