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I have always loved music. When I was younger, the recorder was huge. We had to learn to play it for school. Which we then went on and did a concert for. I went on to play the clarinet for a year or two. In the end, an instrument just wasn't to be for me. But I could probably still rock a recorder if given the chance.
My husband is in love with video games and consoles, especially the old school ones, like Atari, NES, and Sega. He collects games and consoles and things that go along with those old school games. Zelda is something that everyone in our age range knows and most love.
Combining two of our loves, Old school video game characters, and musical instruments was great. I love the musical aspect of it and he loves that it is linked (had to) to Zelda. Plus it looks amazing. It was very well made. Being hand made you pretty much expect it to have at least a few flaws, but I haven't been able to find any. The paint and all the details on this instrument are great!
When I first looked at the product site on Amazon, it says that this is easy to learn to play. I am struggling with playing it. I thought my years with the recorder and clarinet would prepare me or give me an edge, but they didn't. It is the same concept, you hold your fingers over holes and move them to open up the correct holes at the correct time.
I am still working on learning how to play this. I will update this post if and when I do learn so. Until then though, it is going to sit out and be a conversation starter. Everyone seems to love this, they come over and ask about it as soon as they see it!
Whether you love music, musical instruments, or Zelda, then I think you will fall in love with this product. It can be so vastly loved by so many different people. Head on over to the product page on Amazon and check it out by clicking here. From there you can find out more about this product, see what other people are saying about it, and buy one for yourself!
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Proton pump inhibitors (PPIs) are one of the most prescribed groups of drugs globally [1]. [10] and fractures [11] Rabbit polyclonal to PPA1. interstitial nephritis [12] pneumonia [13] and enteric infections [14] [15] namely Clostridium difficile contamination (CDI). CDI has recently emerged as a major public health problem with current estimates suggesting a point prevalence of 13.1/1000 in-patient population [16]. Studies have reported increases in both incidence and mortality of CDI [17]-[20]. The increase in incidence of CDI has been attributed to an aging population increase in use of antibiotics and acid suppressive drugs. PPIs are postulated to increase the proliferation of spores and change the acidic milieu of the stomach that permits spores to survive intraluminally. The role of gastric acid suppression therapy has gained much interest recently as a risk factor for CDI. Four recently published meta-analyses have suggested an association between ARRY-520 R enantiomer gastric acid suppression therapy with proton pump inhibitors (PPI) and CDI [15] [21] [22] [23]. The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently warned the public about a possible association between CDI and PPI use [19]. Nevertheless these reviews had important limitations such as missing a lot of released research [15] [19] [22] [23] only using unadjusted data from observational research [15] [22] [23] not really discovering heterogeneity and the result of publication bias and over-interpreting the results. We therefore performed a systematic meta-analysis and critique that addressed the function of PPIs in CDI. ARRY-520 R enantiomer We utilized the MOOSE [24] and PRISMA suggestions [25] for confirming systematic testimonials. We include brand-new studies released after the prior meta-analyses and added exclusive approaches to adapt for ARRY-520 R enantiomer publication bias in addition to explore the effect of unidentified confounders. We utilize the Levels of Recommendation Evaluation Advancement and Evaluation (Quality) construction [26] to interpret our results. Methods Research Search Technique The search technique and subsequent books searches had been performed by way of a medical guide librarian (PJE) with 38 many years of knowledge. The initial technique originated in Ovid MEDLINE (1990 through January 2012) using MeSH (Medical Subject matter Headings) managed vocabulary and customized for Ovid EMBASE (1990 through January 2012). The search was designed to catch all acidity suppression studies. Principal terms had been: enterocolitis pseudomembranous/AND the healing ARRY-520 R enantiomer agents appealing: explode omeprazole explode proton pump inhibitors anti-ulcer agencies and explode histamine H2 antagonists (Explode enables including every one of the particular medications and never have to use every one of the several conditions synonyms brands and universal names.) Content were limited by randomized controlled studies cohort research and/or case-control research. The same procedure was used in combination with Ovid EMBASE with modifications as essential to support EMBASE’s even more granular subject matter headings. ISI Internet of Research and Elsevier Scopus make use of textwords: (difficile OR pseudomembranous OR pseudo-membranous) AND (omeprazole OR “proton pump” OR ranitidine OR h2 OR h-2 OR “acidity suppression” OR antacid*)) AND (arbitrary* OR trial* OR blind* OR cohort* OR managed OR potential). There is no restriction on language. All results were downloaded into ARRY-520 R enantiomer EndNote 7.0 (Thompson ISI Research soft Philadelphia Pennsylvania) a bibliographic database manager and duplicate citations were identified and removed. Two authors (A.B.A. and F.A.) independently assessed the eligibility of recognized studies. Study Selection To be included a study had to: (1) be an analytical study; and (2) have examined the association between PPI use and incidence of CDI. Data Collection A data collection form was developed and used to retrieve information on relevant features and results of pertinent studies. Two reviewers (A.B.A. and F.A.) independently extracted and recorded data on a predefined checklist. Disagreements among reviewers were discussed with two other reviewers (I.M.T. and M.A.) and agreement was reached by consensus. Data included the following: study characteristics (i.e. country and 12 months of study) characteristics of the study PPI intake definition and ascertainment and end result. We also collected adjusted effect estimates and 95% confidence intervals (CI) based on the multivariable regression model used in each study and the list of variables considered for addition within the multivariate.
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Just ignore the fact that this project used Bella Rose DSP yet again and rest assured that I have new papers in the mail. By the end of the week you will see other DSP besides this (if I can stand to tear myself away) beautiful, made especially for Becky, Bella Rose! :o) Have I mentioned lately how much I love Riding Hood Red cardstock...oh, and Pink Pirouette too? OK, maybe you've noticed!
This particular coaster box was originally done by Julie Griffith of Paper Jewels.
That girl has some amazing creativity in her head! Too bad she works for that other stamp company, we could be enjoying her ideas in Stampin' Up! style :o) It's OK, she's nice!
1. I started with five 4" medium weight coasters from Eclectic Paperie ,
covered them with assorted DSP and Tombow Multi Purpose Adhesive then gently filed the edges with a sanding block.
2. I used my Crop-A-Dile to punch the holes then laced them up with Light Pink Grosgrain Ribbon. Lay them out flat to do this then attach the two end pieces together making sure it is pretty even and tight all the way around.
3.Finally wedge the bottom coaster in the bottom and adhesive the edges with Tombow. I did not lace the bottom piece, just glued it on. Now it was time to decorate!
4. First side has just a standard 3x3 post it note pad. I used 1/2 of a pad. The topper is a 3" width of Kiwi Kiss scored and folded around the top & punched with the Scallop Edge Punch.
5. Second side is a photo page. You can decorate it like a mini scrapbook page or add a framed photo.
6. Third side is a calender. I ordered mine from Vippies They are the large 3 x 2 1/4 size self adhesive calenders.
7. Fourth side is a dry erase board. Add a piece of window sheet or over head transparency paper to the coaster before you punch the holes and lace it right on. So slick (literally, get it??!) and easy and works like a charm!
8. The last thing I am going to do and I haven't done it yet is to cut one of the coasters in half and make a divider for the inside so it has 4 sections. I am going to use it for pencils, pens, rulers, you know, all the desk stuff.
Another great Christmas gift! Guy gifts are so hard in the fluffy stamping world and this would make a great guy gift for his desk or remote controls, etc. You could fill it with all kinds of cool things.
Next week you can look for the mini backpack tutorial. I'm almost finished with it. Thank you for all your e-mails on this project!!!
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Marilyn Goodrich August 31, 2008 at 8:37 AM
LOOOOOOOVE IT!! I've seen similar projects, but never with the dry erase board side! Very clever :)
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Anonymous August 31, 2008 at 8:43 AM
Oh my gosh, this is adorable! What a fabulous gift idea. I'm like you with the Bella Rose dsp. It's about all I have right now besides my Ghostly Greetings I'm afraid to cut into before I figure out my swap cards. I'm getting 5 new packages on Tuesday though!
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Anonymous August 31, 2008 at 9:10 AM
this has to be one of the best 3 d projects I have EVER seen! so Cool! love your blog!
-Elizabeth
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Nancy Riley August 31, 2008 at 9:18 AM
OH MY WORD!!!!!!! This couldn't be cuter! Sooooooo creative! Becky, you're amazing!
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Anonymous August 31, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Oh Becky you have done it again! This is so cool. I am definitely going to have to share this with all the ladies. We miss you!
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Jewels August 31, 2008 at 12:07 PM
Becky,
I love those colors! And the clips are really fun. That really is the kind of gift you can give anyone. Love it! Jewels
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Shelly Koskinen August 31, 2008 at 1:36 PM
So cool!!!! I love it!!
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Julie Hunt August 31, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Adorable! You never cease to amaze me with all your cute projects.
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Jill Hilliard August 31, 2008 at 7:25 PM
LOVE IT! Becky what a great great great idea. JILL
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Sara August 31, 2008 at 8:00 PM
Oh my, this is fabo!!! i love the dry erase side - may have to copy this one, I think it would be great for guy gifts too!!!
Thanks for sharing!
Sara SCS=Inkymom
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Priscilla September 1, 2008 at 2:08 PM
What a great and beautiful gift idea. Love it! Thanks for sharing.
Priscilla
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Maria Williams :) September 1, 2008 at 9:48 PM
I LOVE these projects!! Thanks for taking the to show us your creations as well as the great tutorial!!!
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Christina September 11, 2008 at 2:19 AM
Wow! I LOVE THIS! The Bella Rose DSP looks FABULOUS on your caddy!
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klbown September 13, 2008 at 6:35 PM
This is wonderful! I am doing a stationary class right before Christmas and I can't to show my girls how to do this. Thanks!
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klbown September 13, 2008 at 6:37 PM
I can't wait to show the girls this. Don'tcha just love it when you type faster than your thought process. LOL!
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Nicole December 5, 2008 at 8:09 AM
Hi Becky!
Fabulous project!
It's today's featured project at the SCS 3D Demo challenge. Thanks for the inspiration!
Nicole
www.thestampinlibrarian.com
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Bridgett Owens June 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Jewels absolutely does a fabulous job! I love this caddy she designed! It's beautiful! Your colors are very nice (even if you did use paper from the other stamping company) wink! LOL
Hugs,
Bridgett
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Do you remember when I made this File Folder Treat for Valentine's Day? It was so much fun I saved the idea for Halloween Treats.
Cardstock: Tangelo Twist, Very Vanilla, Happy Haunting Designer Series Paper
Stamp Set: Happy Hauntings, Happy Scenes (BOO)
Accessories: Envelope Punch Board, Basic Black Baker's Twine, Tags & Labels Framelits, Big Shot, Paper Trimmer
Here is a video with all the details for making one yourself.
My September Gift To You
During the month of September, for all orders of $35 or more to my online store you will receive this tutorial on how to create this super cute Packed For School ensemble.
After you place your qualifying order, I'll send it to you via e-mail.
If you select 'No Contact' when you order, I have no contact information on you. So please send me an e-mail.
View the Stampin' Up! Annual 2015-16 Catalog online and when you are ready, please order HERE.
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Donna September 15, 2015 at 8:12 AM
So cute Becky and, videos are always fun (and appreciated)! Thanks so much for sharing!! :)
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this was the first tutorial I watched. You are perfect for this! thank you for precise and fun directions! I'll be back often!
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Deepa M. September 16, 2015 at 9:17 PM
I loved those little file folders - I made a few and took them in for my colleagues last year. Your halloween ones are so cute! I might make some more up to use up a bit of old DSP. Thanks for the reminder :)
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This was one of my favorites from class last week!!! I can't wait to make some with Christmas paper.
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This tutorial contains instructions, patterns, and photos to complete all 3 projects featured on my blog July 8, 2016. You can purchase it for $5.95 below.p>
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Tres Chic Handbags Tutorial
This 20-page tutorial contains step-by-step cutting instructions and color photo directions for completing all three handbags. These handbags are intended to be gift card size. However, you can resize the handbags to suit your needs. The patterns for all three handbags are included in the tutorial. More photos of this tutorial can be seen in this post here.
This is a pattern and instruction tutorial, not a class planner. The tutorial will be e-mailed to you as an Adobe PDF file following your purchase.
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Traveling Trio Tutorial
This 19-page tutorial contains step-by-step cutting instructions and color photo directions for completing the Traveling Trio 3 suitcases, four standard size cards, four note size cards, decorative paper clips and the insert divider for the bottom suitcase.
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12 Days of Christmas 2017 Edition Tutorial
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Low corn earworm migration risks are in the forecast on a nightly basis through the middle portion of next week as south to southwest winds return to at least the western and central portions of the corn-growing region. Low pressure systems should continue to develop in the western Plains but will have a difficult time moving east due to high pressure in the Great Lakes and eastern corn-growing region. As a result, Low migration risks mainly focus initially across the Plains states for the next two nights, but eventually do spread to the east into Wisconsin and Illinois by Sunday night into Monday. Risks largely remain across western portions of Wisconsin and Illinois and points to the west as low pressure deepens in southern Canada and North Dakota moving into the middle portion of next week. Isolated flights will be possible through this time mainly due to a less favorable source region in the Plains and overall lower wind speeds. Growers should continue to monitor traps and scout, however, as recent flights may be inhabiting fields at this time.
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Redbox Update – Summer is here!
Posted by Michael on Jun 20, 2006 under codes, movies, redbox
I hope you had a great weekend – I know I did. My family and I spent time up in Logan, Utah with some other family members. We went to a few concerts, went swimming, attended a birthday party… and ate too much food! Incidently, we even rented from a Redbox while we were there (with a free code, of course!). So, if you know anyone in the Logan area, let the know about Redbox and this website so they can get a great deal on movies, too!
With the first official day of summer coming up tomorrow, we are starting to see the summer movie season heating up. This week we have some popular films being released, and I am adding a new feature to the site a bit later today.
QUESTION OF THE WEEK
Last week we asked what you thought could be done to improve the Redbox. There were two answers that overwhelmed the rest: Adding a seperate return slot (or just making returns faster) and having a later return time. If you would like to give your two cents on last week’s topic, just click here and leave your comment at the bottom.
Now, on to this week’s question. It is a two-parter, and is keeping with last weeks theme.
Question: Considering this website – InsideRedbox.com – what is your favorite feature of the site, and what would you most like to see added to the site to make it better?
Click here and scroll to the bottom to give us your answer
Thanks for everyone and the contributions. By participating you will make Redbox better for everyone who uses it.
THIS WEEK IN MOVIES
It looks to be a strong week for movies. Check them out.
The movies are: Eight Below, Syriana, The Hills Have Eyes, Once Upon a Wedding, Game 6, and for the kids, Lady and the Tramp 2: Scamp’s Adventure.
Almost all of these movies have gotten good reviews, and I definitely plan to check out ‘Eight Below’. If you have seen any of these, definitely let us know what you thought by visiting the Redbox Forum.
REDBOX CODES
This week one new code was added:
DVDONME
And remember, the code ‘MONDAY’ only works on – you guessed it – Monday. So, make sure you use it next week, but don’t bother trying it any other day.
NEW FEATURES
Last week when I added back the ‘Redbox Codes by City/Market’ section, I wanted to add something else to the section that I didn’t have time to add. That is a ‘Untested Codes’ section. Later today when you click on one of the Redbox markets and scroll down to the bottom you will see this new section.
This section will let you know of codes that have been reported working recently in other areas, but have not yet been tested in your particular market. Try them out and you may be pleasantly surprised!
OK, that is all for this week. As always, I hope you have a great week, and make sure you come back and visit us often to report on codes you have used and find the latest codes for even more free movies.
Until next time – happy renting!
Michael
Founder, InsideRedbox.com
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June 20, 2006 at 9:41 am
MY FAVORITE FEATURE OFF THIS WEBSITE IS THE REDBOX CODES THAT GET YOU FREE MOVIES… IT IS AWESOME!! I LOVE THIS WEBSITE.. IT SAVES ME TIME… AND MONEY!!
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June 20, 2006 at 9:47 am
Well this past weekend I rented four movies and couldn’t use any codes to get any free movies everyone I used was invalid.
I would like the time to change from 7pm to Midnight to return a movie. I would also like to see that updates, like what is online of new movies just released, actually be in the Redbox that you rent from. Most of the time the Redbox in my neightborhood is somewhat limited on titles to rent.
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June 20, 2006 at 10:58 am
The CODES are by far the most valuable item listed on this site.
I would LOVE to see a search engine, by zip code, that could tell you what store has the movie you would like to rent that night, and how many copies are available. I don’t think it is necessary to have a reserve feature, as the movies are only $1.00, however, a search feature would be very useful!
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June 25, 2006 at 8:27 pm
My family and I have really enjoyed using the Red Box. We usually rent at least 1 DVD a week. I have a hard time finding any valid codes – and have only gotten 1 DVD without a charge. Also, where I live the Red Box is always down. It is super annoying! I have had this problem 4 times now.
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June 26, 2006 at 6:25 pm
The volunteer participation feature of the code list is very cool. It’s nice to see if people in my area have had success with certain codes. We just got a redbox in a Smiths store closer to my house, so I’ll be using RedBox and the codes from this site a lot more often! Maybe it would be cool to give us the option to have email or text message alerts of new codes as they become available.
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June 27, 2006 at 9:08 am
I would like to see the DVD Return give you the option to add feedback. For example: Disc was scratched and unreadable – this could earmark that disc to have it taken out of circulation and/or replaced.
Another idea would be to have a quick return feature where even when someone else is browsing through available titles you could walk up and insert a movie in the slot and return it without interrupting them. That would probably take some hardware upgrades and maybe an external button being I think the slots are sealed when not in use.
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June 27, 2006 at 10:17 am
I tried Redbox for the first time this past weekend. I used two different codes to get free rentals. (DVDONME & FREEDVD1) I did try using “DENVER” and it showed “invalid”. Both movies, “The Ringer and “Yours, Mine & Ours” were good movies. I will be using Redbox more often. Blockbuster has lost my business about a year ago. I won’t pay $4.50 to rent a movie ever again.
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July 1, 2006 at 6:56 pm
My favorite feature is you providing us with codes for free movies, thanks alot for providing a great service.
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July 1, 2006 at 8:22 pm
So… my favorite feature is obviously the codes…
Re: Redbox in general…
1. We need more “kids” friendly movies… maybe just more qty in the machine.
2. More locations where there isnt a mcdonalds… although I would just like a mcdonalds closer. (Anybody have some startup money?)
3. Faster Return
4. Faster Checkout, we always have lines of 5-6 people.
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July 11, 2006 at 5:37 am
What I appreciate most about the site, is how the codes are broken down by geographic area. I find that it seems to make a big difference-we’re in the NorthEast, and I’ve found codes used in other areas to be invalid here.
Some of the other improvements to the box, that others have mentioned, would be grand- but my expectations for change is low…we are talking about a buck here. I haven’t come across any damaged DVD’s yet, that WOULD be a huge drag.
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I actually got my first apartment here about 7 years ago and it was the most awful place to live. At the time I didn't know it because I was young and didn't know better. After having rented from much better places like The Mansion
3
crystalb1731659135 October 08, 2013 6 Burning Tree
★★★★★
I actually got my first apartment here about 7 years ago and it was the most awful place to live. At the time I didn't know it because I was young and didn't know better. After having rented from much better places like The Mansion
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Klllll Apr 24 .
Don't be fooled by the post on March 22, 2012 because it was probably written by someone that works in the office, so as not to tarnish Burning Tree's reputation. For one, I lived there for many years and I can say the only good thing
3
Klllll April 24, 2012 6 Burning Tree
Horrible place to live!
★★★★★
Don't be fooled by the post on March 22, 2012 because it was probably written by someone that works in the office, so as not to tarnish Burning Tree's reputation. For one, I lived there for many years and I can say the only good thing
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Rayvnr Mar 22 .
I lived at Burning Tree Apartments for several years and experienced none of the problems about which the former two posters were addressing. It is a clean and quiet complex, priced very reasonably for the area and impeccably run both by
3
Rayvnr March 22, 2012 6 Burning Tree
A great place to live!
★★★★★
I lived at Burning Tree Apartments for several years and experienced none of the problems about which the former two posters were addressing. It is a clean and quiet complex, priced very reasonably for the area and impeccably run both by
from CitySearch
magmasitter Mar 18 .
This is a very bad place to live. Especially if you have children. There are several known child molesters that live in the complex. Also the manager, Michael is a homosexual and hits on any male that comes in to look at apartments. Do not
3
magmasitter March 18, 2011 6 Burning Tree
DO NOT RENT HERE>>>>>
★★★★★
This is a very bad place to live. Especially if you have children. There are several known child molesters that live in the complex. Also the manager, Michael is a homosexual and hits on any male that comes in to look at apartments. Do not
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by Spicarolie at Citysearch Nov 10 .
I am sorry to hear that your experience with Burning Tree Apartments was so unpleasant. The fact of the matter is that 90% of the reviews that come up on any review site are usually stemmed from disgruntled residents who either left for reasons of the company or simply because they couldn??t afford to live here anymore. Our apartments are older, but the #1 thing that our company prides themselves with is our spectacular maintenance staff and our managers. I believe that you may have had some plumbing issues as any property runs into those kinds of problems. As for the " Vaseline " comment I am aware of this situation and there were many things that you were charged for because you failed to maintain the home. I know for a fact that our home office will handle any complaints or concerns and will do whatever they can to help you, and work with you. So as far as Shryock not taking your calls or responding to your letter I find this incorrect. As you are not the first resident too ever have a complaint. You??re always welcome to do a walk through. Though we are very busy we ask that you set an appointment. As far as complaints on other tenants, we ask that you try to rectify the situation yourself first as your neighbors would be more appreciative about it. If the issue continues then we ask that you come to us and we will do what we need to in order to rectify the problem. We have a lot of Pigeons that fly around over here; it??s a part of Mother Nature. There is nothing that we can do to rectify this issue other than to have tenants not let them continue nesting on the balcony. We have a lot of residents who are long timers here, 20+ years. I??m so sorry that your experience here was not good. But better luck at your next home!
Thank you,
Jessica Negus
Assistant Manager
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by Spicarolie at Citysearch August 11, 2010 5 Burning Tree
Burning Tree
★★★★★
I am sorry to hear that your experience with Burning Tree Apartments was so unpleasant. The fact of the matter is that 90% of the reviews that come up on any review site are usually stemmed from disgruntled residents who either left for reasons of the company or simply because they couldn??t afford to live here anymore. Our apartments are older, but the #1 thing that our company prides themselves with is our spectacular maintenance staff and our managers. I believe that you may have had some plumbing issues as any property runs into those kinds of problems. As for the " Vaseline " comment I am aware of this situation and there were many things that you were charged for because you failed to maintain the home. I know for a fact that our home office will handle any complaints or concerns and will do whatever they can to help you, and work with you. So as far as Shryock not taking your calls or responding to your letter I find this incorrect. As you are not the first resident too ever have a complaint. You??re always welcome to do a walk through. Though we are very busy we ask that you set an appointment. As far as complaints on other tenants, we ask that you try to rectify the situation yourself first as your neighbors would be more appreciative about it. If the issue continues then we ask that you come to us and we will do what we need to in order to rectify the problem. We have a lot of Pigeons that fly around over here; it??s a part of Mother Nature. There is nothing that we can do to rectify this issue other than to have tenants not let them continue nesting on the balcony. We have a lot of residents who are long timers here, 20+ years. I??m so sorry that your experience here was not good. But better luck at your next home!
Thank you,
Jessica Negus
Assistant Manager
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by rentingisbad at Citysearch Nov 10 .
These apartments are not only old, outdated, and dirty, but the landlord is horrible. Upon leaving the apartments, I was charged for numerous items that made no sense. He went so far as to state I rubbed Vaseline on windows and then charged me for it. Also I was never allowed to participate in the walk through once our stuff was moved out. Now they are charging me for false items, to make up for there outdated apartments that are quickly going down hill. We tried to contact the reality company who owns the complex by phone and letter. They never returned our calls or responded to the letter; however, they did put a collection item on my credit report.
The rent is cheap but the neighbors are awful. I complained about a drummer that lived below me several times, and the landlord never took the initiative to talk with the drummer kid or his mother. I also had a few pluming problems in the apartment that were not responded to. The one pluming issue, which was causing water in another apartment, was handled poorly. They removed the dishwasher, banged up the kitchen cabinets during the fix, and when I moved out they charged ME for the damage even after I had explained to the landlord what had happened.
They also have a serious pigeon problem that they refuse to do anything about. You cannot use the decks that are built on because they are covered in pigeon feces.
Don't move in here, they are awful.
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by rentingisbad at Citysearch August 13, 2008 1 Burning Tree
do not rent here
★☆☆☆☆
These apartments are not only old, outdated, and dirty, but the landlord is horrible. Upon leaving the apartments, I was charged for numerous items that made no sense. He went so far as to state I rubbed Vaseline on windows and then charged me for it. Also I was never allowed to participate in the walk through once our stuff was moved out. Now they are charging me for false items, to make up for there outdated apartments that are quickly going down hill. We tried to contact the reality company who owns the complex by phone and letter. They never returned our calls or responded to the letter; however, they did put a collection item on my credit report.
The rent is cheap but the neighbors are awful. I complained about a drummer that lived below me several times, and the landlord never took the initiative to talk with the drummer kid or his mother. I also had a few pluming problems in the apartment that were not responded to. The one pluming issue, which was causing water in another apartment, was handled poorly. They removed the dishwasher, banged up the kitchen cabinets during the fix, and when I moved out they charged ME for the damage even after I had explained to the landlord what had happened.
They also have a serious pigeon problem that they refuse to do anything about. You cannot use the decks that are built on because they are covered in pigeon feces.
Don't move in here, they are awful.
Pros: none
Cons: everything
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I've now encountered Chinese women in several countries. (I do not live in China.) A lot of them come across as very genuine, interested in enduring relationships, marriage and green card. I have now fallen for one of these in a big way. I think she would make a great wife. Clearly the green card and jump to a better lifestyle are a big incentive for her. She is 18 years younger than me. I wonder whether she would commit to me permanently. Views, anyone?
ManonsanBoy
09-02-03, 14:14
The same as any other relationship. You have to judge it on your interaction. Some good and some bad. By the way, the green card is not the great path to heaven that it was in the past.
Three I
09-02-03, 19:01
You maybe right Manonsanboy but being a ***** in the U.S. or Europe is way better then being in China. I know a lot about the Chinese in Southern California (San Gabriel Valley) I have been offered numerous times to marry someones dauther, sister or friend for $20,000 just be careful if it sounds to good to be true it is not true!
If you go to any Asian dating service you can find 18 to 50 year old women some already marrien some not looking for husbands and sugar daddy's that's what they are there for to facilitate immigration. Some of there parent put them up to do things like this be careful!
Lubricate It
09-02-03, 23:27
Originally posted by Three X
You maybe right Manonsanboy but being a ***** in the U.S. or Europe is way better then being in China. I know a lot about the Chinese in Southern California (San Gabriel Valley) I have been offered numerous times to marry someones dauther, sister or friend for $20,000 just be careful if it sounds to good to be true it is not true!
If you go to any Asian dating service you can find 18 to 50 year old women some already marrien some not looking for husbands and sugar daddy's that's what they are there for to facilitate immigration. Some of there parent put them up to do things like this be careful!
Three X. I think you are getting close to what I'm on about. At the stage of the relationship the $ signs seem more important to her than the romance although she continues to push all the right buttons with me in an amazing way. She's also a lady who's in the AMP business. I want to know what the long term scenario is. Can I turn this into a proper situation which will last into my old age, given the 18 year age difference? Anyone out there been thru this with a Chinese?
Moody
09-03-03, 00:05
Originally posted by Lubricate It
Three X. I think you are getting close to what I'm on about. At the stage of the relationship the $ signs seem more important to her than the romance although she continues to push all the right buttons with me in an amazing way. She's also a lady who's in the AMP business. I want to know what the long term scenario is. Can I turn this into a proper situation which will last into my old age, given the 18 year age difference? Anyone out there been thru this with a Chinese?
I think each situation is unique to its own. There may be similarities, but to the extent people and their motivations are different, relationships will be different. I for one, was not looking for anything when I fell in love with a lovely Chinese girl. I have to say that I think my situation differs in that my girl has no desire to emmigrate. She likes her life in China just fine and learning a new culture and language for her is more trouble than it's worth.
As for the age difference, I say forget about it. Who cares. It's very common in China to see middle aged men with young ladies in their early twenties. My girl's previous boyfriend is 42. He was 39 and she was 19 when they met. Situations like this are not uncommon in China. We may refer to it as "robbing the cradle," but they see it as something normal and they don't see anything wrong with it. As long as you're fine with it, she'll be fine with it.
Three I
09-03-03, 03:27
Originally posted by Lubricate It
Three X. I think you are getting close to what I'm on about. At the stage of the relationship the $ signs seem more important to her than the romance although she continues to push all the right buttons with me in an amazing way. She's also a lady who's in the AMP business. I want to know what the long term scenario is. Can I turn this into a proper situation which will last into my old age, given the 18 year age difference? Anyone out there been thru this with a Chinese?
Hey buddy I went thur the sh't with on cAmp girl in Riverside California and I know most of their tricks and stuff!
1. You will never get the truth only more lies!
2. You may not be the only one! (Everytime a buisnessman came in my "friend" alway got a buisness card)!
3. All of her friend do it or have done what she is doing!
4. Do you know her real name.
5. Is she really divorced!
6. cAmp girls can be bad for you health!
7. You should get a good lawyer if you marry her.
8. Does she have a Chinese boyfriend, do you know who she speaks to on the phone!
9. When she speaks english it is a American guy she is talking to.
10. Is she in a dating service most of them are! Go to the area she lives and look for her picture in the dating service and some of her friends also!
11. Most women use their emotion to fuck with your head. She can't beat you up for some money nor a green card so she will use other means ie... pussy, love, save me from this job BS!
I know the game buddy! Believe me it is not pretty but Asian guys go thur this shit way more then you of I ever will, they except them and marry and let them work for years.
Rayman
09-03-03, 09:30
Of course Chinese girls are famed for their golddigging reputations............unlike our sweeties back home eh lads.
Check out the view in 1933!
Get real all relationships are about give and take. Can't take the filthy stuff with you!
Three I
09-03-03, 17:51
Originally posted by Rayman
Of course Chinese girls are famed for their golddigging reputations............unlike our sweeties back home eh lads.
Check out the view in 1933!
Get real all relationships are about give and take. Can't take the filthy stuff with you!
Of course you can't take it with you and I am being real! If he is looking for love then I think he should look somewhere else that's all. Beside he might give and she might take it all! Not the mention the embarrasment around his friends and family he will have to put up with if she is running a "game" on him. You got to love them with your brain buddy not your heart.
Yup you're right you can't take it with you that why he should give it to someone who gives a shit about him and his welfare.
If he wants some give and take go to Thailand. Cuba, Vietnam or the Philipines for a more equadible exchange! (sorry about the spelling)
Lubricate It
09-03-03, 23:43
Manonsanboy, Moody, Three X and Rayman
Thanks your comments. There are pretty strong resonances in what each of you says.
The vibes are excellent. We want each other bad. She has given me the address and telephone number of her parests and they aren't fake.
There are some shit downsides. We live in Tokyo. She has a "sham" marriage to a Japanese 15 years older than me, so she can work here. She screws him. But he offers her a good deal, and all I can give her is promises. In her economic circumstances that's a rational decision for her. If I don't marry her she would probably live with him forever. She is faithful to him (she moved in with him some time after first meeting me).
My wife wants to contest divorce. In my present jurisdiction (Japan) a contested divorce is virtually impossible. Because of work I have to stay in this jurisdiction another 2 years. Even if I could visit another jurisdiction somewhere else for a "quickie" divorce the wife would create a huge scene which would impact badly on my work here.
It's hell, but my inclination is strongly to follow through with it two years down the track. It's because she offers more than any woman I have ever met!
James D 2004
09-04-03, 00:01
Lub it,
The only permanent is change. You are possibly asking too much. In US is easy, sign a prenub, and marry her. Nothing much to lose. Everybody is happy, everybody has a good deal, why not. The downside? I know a woman in SGV, LA, an ex-model who married to a rich resturant owner. They have a prenub, and he doesn't give her much money to spend. She prostitutes and he doesn't know.
Oh please, don't be shy about your age. You just turn people off. Is it something like that you can be her father, and that her husband can be her grandfather?
She is probably doing as a chinese saying, riding a cow, looking for a horse. Once she got a horse, she may want a porche, but no porche may want her. That's life.
Time will tell. To be sure, date her for as long as you want. If she really likes you and there's no other men, she will wait. I wouldn't worry about the mileage on her, that old men probably couldn't do much damage.
Rayman
09-04-03, 03:25
Lub-it.
Do what you want, don't have any regrets (important!) and don't let the pessimists get to you.
We all know these stories of unfaithfulness and cheating, and they have no creed and culture boundaries.....west and east. I know several western lasses who put out whenever the hubbies away.........and not for something tangible like money/love but just for the kick!!
Nevertheless, take things easy, no rush mate - whatever you have to wait two years...
Just one thing on the age. If she is 18 and you are 36 the gap is huge in terms of maturity and 'what she wants out of life' As she gets older she may change - we all do and most changes occur when we are young. However if she is 30 and you are 48 ....well that gap is nothing at all.
Ray
Three I
09-04-03, 03:36
We never said that western women don't cheat but , when she is a hooker she is not the ideal you would love to give your heart too!
Rayman
09-04-03, 07:23
Ahhhhhhh....not ideal of course but if only one could control to whom one gives ones heart to.....:-)) But better than being alone into your old age or married to someone that you regret being married to and forever harking back to that girl in Shanghai (or whereever) that you left behind.
Should i be banned for being too romantic? Perhaps.
Have to say though many (not all mind) of the working girls/women i come across in China hook for necessity or because they like it and not because they have some awful character flaw. Hence the number of students who earn cash in the KTV's who later will be successful in marriage and in work. I presume!!
Jman90024
09-04-03, 14:21
Have to say though many (not all mind) of the working girls/women i come across in China hook for necessity or because they like it and not because they have some awful character flaw. Hence the number of students who earn cash in the KTV's who later will be successful in marriage and in work. I presume!!
I think that's in some cases true. I had lived with a KTV girl for a while. Her roommates also work in KTV. They work in KTV because there is very few jobs available for a farm girl, even with a high school degree, to get a job in the country or in the city.
Different stories to differnt roommates.
One moved up to live with a suger daddy and is now getting high all the time. Cheating on his suger daddy all the times.
Another one put all the money she made in KTV into his boyfriend's shop back home. Now, she's working in the shop and visit customers all days. Last time she came back for a visit, she's all tanned and lost at least 10 pounds. Hardly using any makeup these days and not making nowhere near the tips she was getting in the KTV. But she seems happy.
I think a couple things to put China's situation apart from other countries.
China's establishment is hardly controlled by organized crime like else where. Well, some of them are controlled by gangs but these gangs are nowhere near the scale of the organized crimes in other countries. Honestly, can you image Chinese government tolerate an large organized crime like Mafia in the US or Yakuza in Japan?
The eatablishments are more like business. KTV girls pay the companies to get into work everyday instead of being forced into the work. There are no gangs to pay off at the end of the day, just the management up front. With plenty of supply of young, pretty girls from the country side everyday, the management of these establishment has no desire to force anyone to work.
So, what's the KTV jobs come down to? If she likes to party, a night of free drinking, signing and dancing with pay. On tips along, some good looking girls can make more then average college graduated white collar workers. Going home with the guys? Sure, why not? One night stand with pay.
Of course, some got spolied by the money but don't we all? Can the expats on this board can honestly say that they are willing to get paid the same as their Chinese coworkers? The emotional tricks they use to get most out of the customers are just well developed "industrial" standard procedures. Moreover, how many years can they really make the kind of KTV money? 4 or 5? How many 30 over KTV girls in China? Even most of the mammies are under 30. For these golden years, one needs to make as much as she can.
Most of the love songs you heard in KTV describe failed relationship. "I love him but he has to go." "I love him but he cheat on me and I can't leave him because I love him too much." Common sence in these songs. The typical Chinese romantic novels are not any better. These have big impacts on the Chinese women's view of love. On the other hand, moeny is more real.
I am still with the girl and she's still working in the KTV. She's not taking my money. As she put it, this is a relationship. That only makes me like her even more. Not sure how much longer will this relationship but I am enjoying as much as I can. One day at a time.
Three I
09-04-03, 16:15
My brothers just watch your healths and live your own lives. The Koreans and Chinese in Los Angeles say the same thing except the are mostly over 40 have a $300,000 house married and has a $30,000 car for herself and $40,000 their husbands. The single ones have $1,500 a month apartment and $30,000 cars and saving up the buy a buisness. Not all but most! C-ya
Lubricate It
09-14-03, 02:14
Thanks for the helpful comments, guys including Three X, Rayman and Talln. It really helps to get the views of others because I sense I'm often dealing with a team of people...
She seems to have a strong support network of other Chinese women - her best friend, her workmates, her mother etc. And what I'm told (or not told) is always exquisite and perfectly calculated, like a committee has put it together! I suppose this is a characteristic of the way Chinese women operate.
We had a comment on the Shenzhen board recently (where this thread originates) that Chinese women are beautiful, sensitive and manipulative. That rings true. She is very responsive to anything I say and can take offense easily. But she's also making me fit into the frame she has designed. I would also add as characteristics they will do anything to get a good lifestyle, and seem to have less of a sense of guilt than people in Western societies.
BTW, I'm not shy about telling my age. It's just that a lot of people read WSG and I'm afraid I might get recognised if I'm too precise. But its more at the forties/fifties end of the spectrum.
Three I
09-14-03, 17:42
I am 25 years old and from what I have learned from all my experiences is this.
A women cannot take money, wealth or anything physical from you so she must use her mined, body, sexuality to make you give her those things.
I hope everything works out buddy keep your head up I have been where you are and it is not good!
Rayman
09-17-03, 13:41
One night stands.
This one is in response to Lucky's observations on Blankies post in the Shanghai thread.
Basically, if you pick up a part-time sex worker it is best to offer something the morning after even it you had thought it was a freebie. But don't force it on them.
However if i have read Blankies situation right IF you pick up a girl out shopping, gym or where-ever and hit the sack do not offer her money afterwards. How shameful!
She is not a sex-worker but a girl who likes you - and i guess it is reciprocated. Treat her the same as you would after a one-nighter in your own home town.
Getting out of the relationship is your own affair, but she might be out for fun as well - in my exp. they usually are. Don't worry about it UNLESS you told her the ol' meatloaf stuff.
Sent
09-25-03, 08:50
Hi,
I'm a regular poster on the Illinois, USA board. I'm posting this
question because i have no idea where else to find the answer.
This may be off topic so if it is please forgive.
Here is the situation:
I have a female friend who is half chinese/half
italian. She is a natural born american citizen only.
She has started to assert herself and took a job
against her parents wishes. While she was in a
different state taking this job her parents thought
she was with a man that she is in love with, yet she
was not. Anyway, she talked to them by phone and said
she was coming home to get her stuff cuz the new job
starts in two weeks. Her parents told her they wanted
her to go with them to Beijing, and it wasn't a choice
for her. Well she can't really go because of the new
job, but then she seldom disobeys them. Her dad is
an immigrant to the US who is also a naturalized citizen
of the US.
What are the laws concerning her when she is over there
with her parents. I have recommended to her that she not
go given the paternalistic leaning of the law in china and
also the uncertainty of the law in such matters.
So my question is when/if they get her to go to Beijing can
they keep her there and not let her return to the US?
Any other advice related to this matter?
Thank You for any help or advice with regard to this matter,
Sent
Indigo Blue
09-26-03, 04:29
Sent:
If your friend is over 18y.o, here is just like everywhere else. No one can really force her to anything. Personally I have met at least five girls in that situation, both here and in Japan, and every one have ended with the girl flying back to Europe or the U.S. Life is hard here for "bananas" (yellow outside, white inside). The same Asian that open their arms to the foreigners, shows kind of contempt for the overseas Chinese or Japanese who cannot speak well or read their language. I have seen that, somehow, is harder for girls. IMO, this is because Asian girls are a much sought-after girlfriend back at their countries, but here they find themselves rather at the opposite end of the scale. Also because overseas Asian girls, with their behavior (i.e. smoking in public), attract more reproving looks. Of course there are cases in which she just integrates, find local friends and boyfriend and everything goes smooth, but I can talk about cases like a friend of mine, 19 y.o., from Holland, who enrolled in a students exchange program to have the means to leave China, swearing never to be back. But, for short term, everybody agrees that this was the experience of their lives. My advice is tell your friend to come, to enjoy her time here, and to have a backup plan to resume her life back in the U.S. in case she decides that this was definitely not made for her.
My two cents...
Rayman
09-26-03, 22:55
Sent,
There is no law for paternalistic marriages or other forms of Forced Marriage, or as far as i know not even a leaning towards such matters.
As long as she has a Passport/money she can leave whenever she wants to. China has changed since the days of Mao!
I suggest you let her go and don't get involved further for this issue - family affairs are often NOT transparent and there is probably alot more to this than you know.
Hope this helps.
BlnkNameCruiser
09-27-03, 06:49
Rayman,
Thanks for the opinions about freebies.
the girl I met at the gym is totally insistant (verbally) that "I like you, that is all. you are a man, I am a woman [29y/o] and we both enjoy this.)
she has also started referring to my ex-GF as my GF, so this may allow me to slide my GF in the picture more to keep the relationship EXTREMELY clear.
The concern I have is that she SMS's me when I am out of town that she misses me. That feels too GF to me. I called her on it and she gave me the line stated above and told me not to worry.
Hmm.. I wont allow this to slowly slip. I complain anytime she wants to spend the night in my bed. I offer her the other room. The truth is that I cant stand sharing my bed due to heat, space, etc..
Any additional red lights for me to watch out for would be appreciated.
blanknamecruiser
Bone is Hard
09-29-03, 02:12
BNK, Here's a post I just put on the General CH board.
Just a little bit of help, please.
I just read an interesting post in another China city forum that made me wonder. I have spent many nights in a small town (1.2 Million) in Hunan named Zhuzhou. I frequent, what I have been told to be a legit massage joint. Foot, Regular, Thai, etc but no sex. After an hours foot massage and an hours Thai massage, the young girls would often ask, "want to sleep" and I would reply, "No, just keep going". Is this common code for "do you want sex"? I've read many post in this forum over the past year and a half and have never read an answer to this. The post was in the Haerbin section and Blnknamecrusier says this is a northern phrase but I have heard it about 4 times in the south. What do the rest of you experience when or if this question is asked. The girls in the massage place I frequent in ZZ are very pretty but since I was told it was a legit place, I have never tried anything with them although I sure would like to.
Thanks for any info.
Bone
Have you heard this in the South China area? MP's have usually been off my list except for the legit massage. Although Ive been to China several times, I'm still learning every day, which is something I enjoy doing.
Bone
Found It
09-29-03, 06:26
Blankie;
Just me two fen's worth; as my little head often overrides my big head in matters involving sex, I have had my share of "freebies". If I am truly honest with myself, in every single case, the effort to get laid was only 1/10th of the energy consumed to get free of the later "hassles". In fact, just as I am writing this I get an SMS from a recent "freebie" that is becoming a f*cking pain in the bum with this "I am missing you so much" BS.
Hey, I know that I can get my fair share of pussy in the marketplace but as a FOB monger my ego sometimes gets in the way and I think the "freebie" is only attracted to my good looks, my stamina and skills in the sack, etc, but, at the end of the day...there is always some shit to deal with later.
Just MHO, but I am really starting to think a commercial arrangement is the only way to go here.
Stay safe and Happy hunting in the holiday week!
Arbat
10-10-03, 09:26
Mongolian girls.
When you talk about mongolian girls, are they from Mongolia (country) or "Inner Mongolia" (chinese region)?
I had a girl from Irkutsk (in Moscow) from mongolian origins and I did like her a lot, phisically and in bed.
I'd like to try the Mongolian you have in Beijiing, reading your reports is quite interesting.
Please give me an advice: having a couple of weeks of time for a sex vacation, would you head to Inner Mongolia, or Mongolia? Or in your opinion it's difficult to find women there? I'm worried that the only available/willing for sex go to BJ or big cities and that "at their home" they behave differently.
Thanks for helping
Lubricate It
10-17-03, 00:55
Arbat
As a reader of the Beijing board and its referrences to the Mongolian delights at Maggies, I too have wondered if this refers to women from the country, Mongolia or from the PRC's Inner Mongolian region.
I am living in Tokyo and my Han Chinese girlfriend referred to on this board is from Chifeng in Inner Mongolia. In my close to fifty years I have never seen such a paragon of female virtue before!
First she is beautiful. Although in her mid-thirties, I could have sworn she was not a day over 25. Slender, with enormous natural breasts and perfect, firm erect nipples, she carries herself very straight and is proud of her body and womanhood. Virtually no pubic hair. Her favourite clothing is the bright red cheongsam, and she knows she looks great in it. She sometimes wears pale blue clothing (cheongsam or western style) as a contrast. She has a very expressive face, which helps smooth over any language difficulties.
Second, she sees her mission in life as to be attentive to other people, and especially men. She uses her eyes to get your attention and keep it. She takes a genuine interest in what you do, and is very responsive. She is sensitive, but always warm to everyone. Her disposition is to be gentle and kind. She is incredibly cheerful. She works hard, keeps her room clean and is frugal.
Third, she has an outstanding understanding and mastery of sex. For example, she understands the importance of a BBBJ for a man, and genuinely enjoys giving it. In the early part of our relationship I avoided it, as I wanted to make clear I wasn't just looking for sex. I think this disappointed her. On the day I finally said yes to a minute or two of BBBJ an expression of sheer delight came over her face. She took her time, wriggled in an exquisite way into the right position, fixed her hair, and delayed a few seconds, savoring the moment. Her technique was flawless. I think perhaps only 2 or 3 women in 100 genuinely enjoy giving BBBJ. She is the world's best at this!
Regular sex is superb. The first time, I was just in the AMP for a "date" with no intention for anything like this. The shop rules strictly prohibit sex. She just handed me a condom, gave me a knowing smile, and went into the next room for a second or two to fix her hair. I felt like Donald Duck! She is always very moist and orgasmic, so orgasmic in fact that I suspect she is faking it, but it's hard to tell! She's not noisy. Just little oh, ohs. She squeals with delight at DATY.
So I would think Inner Mongolia might be a place you to visit, but others might be better able to give advice.
Rayman
10-17-03, 08:25
I have spent a few weekends in IMon and didn't think much of the girls.
However public safety would be much higher with the Chinese in control. Mongolia itself can be a bit of a handful by all accounts.
OldAsiaHand
10-17-03, 10:51
Gentlemen,
Most of the Mongolian girls I have met in Beijing come from Outer Mongolia and do not speak much Chinese, as a rule.
OAH
Vchip
10-18-03, 18:26
Gentlemen,
As a caucasian from north america who is planning on a 3 week trip to the PRC for the first time (I've been to HK), which would be your top three recommended towns/cities to visit for mongering purposes considering availability, price, and attractiveness of the girls. Also, I don't speak chinese but was able to cope in HK ok.
Will appreciate your advice.
ManonsanBoy
10-19-03, 00:58
you go to Shenzhen and Donguan, you will need to go no further.
Three I
10-20-03, 00:33
I think Dalian, Beijing and Shaghai for mongering fun!
Rayman
10-21-03, 00:35
Has anyone here had any experiences with the local married women. I ask this because although I have always been quite lucky with them from '95, I have been on a continuous streak in recent years and availability seems to be increasing. They complain that their hubbys are always either gambling or out whoring. I don't get this response in other Asian countries.
Any views?
Breakdown in family values since China's increasing open sex market????
VChip.
Of course it depends on cash, travel costs etc but personally i would steer away from the main areas although i guess Beijing is a must as you will fly in there. According to all reports Shenzhen and areas of Shanghai are AIDS hotspots.
What about Xian in Shaanxi province? Clean and affordable and very nice girlies. Also lots to see in the Tourist dept.
Tangent
10-21-03, 04:32
Rayman,
do you have any specific sources on Shenzhen and Shanghai being hotspots for aids?
Just curious, as I am in Shenzhen.
Have had only one or two experiences with married women.
Tangent
Crazy Guide
10-21-03, 06:38
Well, I have said that before too. Because of employment, many married couples in China live 1000's of miles apart and only see each other once or twice a year.
These married ladies need relieve just as much as you and I. Perhaps more.
For those who like them a little older (25-35), these ladies are great. They come, take care of business and are not at all sticky. I have one that is 31 but looks 22, she will call me every other week to see if I need her service. I have never paid her a dime and she is always happy to come see me when I say yes.
Yup, married ones are great.
CG
Rayman
10-23-03, 08:36
Tangent,
I have read this quite often over the past few years in the UK press. However type AIDS Shenzhen into Google and it is all there. Same for Shanghai.
I remember one report I read several years back on the www that in some areas of Shanghai the infection rate is sub-sahara levels....apparently.
Obviously some of these reports are to get some funding going but some of the stuff I read in these forums are crazy.
CG: My first exp in China was with our senior company secretary back in GZ. Despite approaching 50 she was fantastic in the sack and had a body many 20 yos would be proud off despite the weather beaten face. Sloppy Bj and anal was her speciality.
Matty Boy
10-28-03, 05:44
Do you guys know anything about becoming a "duck" or male prostitute for women in Shanghai? I'm arriving in a couple of days and would like to know where to start as I have little money and enjoy older ladies very much.
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!
Three I
11-06-03, 05:02
Hey buddy I believe "DUCKS" are for gay men!
Erik
11-06-03, 07:36
Not quite, three X,
Ducks (or "yazi" in mandarin) are the gigolos who prostitute for rich (older or not) chinese girls. It is trendy for rich women to pay a beautiful "shuai ge" chinese guy to service them. That is just fair.
I would say these guys need to hung around expensive and trendy cafes or coffee shops where the women come to show off, after shopping.
Tangent
11-06-03, 10:02
Actually have heard that ducks can get some pretty good cash. I should think that there might be a bar at a major hotel in each city that might have them. For example, I have heard that the hangout in Shenzhen is someplace in the Forum Hotel.
Good luck and let us know if things pan out
Jman90024
11-06-03, 10:53
Three X,
I think guys for men would be called "rabbit" (tuzi).
Three I
11-06-03, 17:52
Thank you gentlemen I stand corrected!
Riain
11-17-03, 06:08
Does anyone know what is "pink" or "peach" guy??
I am sure it is not the same in Chinese as in English
Riain
11-17-03, 06:10
How about "ke ai" as description of a guy. It translates to "cute" but that does not sound so good in English.
Prince Leo
11-17-03, 18:44
"Ke ai" can also mean "loveable" if a girl is interested in you. But it means "immature" or "dumb idiot" if she is giving you a cold shoulder or has a negative feeling toward you.
pekingdog
11-21-03, 06:23
Dear Riain,
Agreeing with what Prince Leo says, 'cute' is much more of a virtue among Asian girls. Girls here (unlike other places) are often quite happy to sleep with a 'cute' guy type. Southern Chinese tend to like more cuteness (as opposed to ruggedness/agressiveness, whatever) than Northern Chinese.
Of course, it's also a way of flattering a guy that a girl thinks is an idiot. Her motive in such a case is probably the usual "get into his wallet, by making him think he's getting into my pants" strategy. I think we've all been there.
'Pink' is occasionally a positive way of saying 'Caucasian', as pink is a 'cute' color. Chinese also have a thing about pink nipples being a sign of sexual purity. I don't think that applies to any of the pink-nippled ones on this board, but our cute pinkies might draw affection from certain ladies anyways. It is not unusual to have them massaged, stared at, and affectionately bitten.
Kencal MD
11-26-03, 07:35
Most girls I've met in China are very shrewd and manipulative. Don't fall for the innocent, childlike and cute look! Also beware of girls who flatter you-they do it for one purpose, to empty your wallets!
Girls in Shanghai tend to be the most moneyminded followed by girls from Hong Kong and Guangzhou. Girls from other provinces tend to be more pure and innocent.
Please see the pics I posted a few weeks ago of the girl from Xian. She was a very pretty and in my opinion humble and honest girl.
Three I
11-27-03, 07:06
The girls from Guanxi, Shaghai, Yunnan, Hunnan, South China in general are shitty!
Macauman
11-29-03, 23:30
Kencal MD is dead-on. I recently made the mistake of marrying one from Guangzhou and bringing her back to the good ole USA. Since her arrival, I now suspect that I was misled on two major topics of interest, including her age (older than I was led to believe), and her previous child-bearing status (it appears that I may have a stepchild after all, despite what I was told). Plus, the demands for money, a car, etc., have been never ending.
A few years ago, a friend of mine was in the process of divorcing his wife from Shenzhen (actually, she was the one doing the divorcing, with the petition filed a few weeks after she received her green card), when he gave me some advice that I ignored to my detriment. The guy, who was totally in love with this girl and treated her like a princess, and was crushed by the divorce, knew my preference for Asian women, and warned me to never marry a Chinese woman, particularly one from Guangdong Province. He told me to look for a Filipina if I truly wanted an Asian wife.
Well, I found one here in the US. She was beautiful, sweet, kind, and loving, and never once asked me for money, or to buy her anything. But for some stupid reason, I broke her heart to marry my Chinese wife. You have no idea how much I now regret that decision.
To any of you who are considering marrying a Chinese woman, please consider what I have been through.
Clandestine782
12-03-03, 10:23
I'm going to be working in China at a University.
I don't want to get married at all, and am toying with the idea of tapping into the student body for purposes of sex.
A lot of you guys meet these girls in places that are a bit...... shady. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of them are after your wallet.
What are the questions?
1. Are people at universities more likely to want to open their legs because of being young and curious? Or should I try to teach at language schools and get recruits for booty camp from there?
2. Do you guys find that most of these girls want marriage right away? Or would they be happy to just be stable (non-married) partners?
Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.
Twelve
12-03-03, 14:15
Rayman and GaryGrant,
Which city/province do you guys pick up these married ladies? How do you meet them?
I'm thinking of spending a few months in China next year, might try my luck then.
Rayman
12-10-03, 12:42
Would you like there addresses and telephone numbers as well Twelve?
If you speak good chinese and have a nice place to bring them to, as well as looking like GaryGrant you'll be ok where ever you go.
:-))
Twelve
12-11-03, 14:16
Rayman,
I was just wondering where these women are most likely to hang out, don't want to end up picking up the wrong type - be it hookers or girls who lure you somewhere just so that their guys can jump and rob you.
I speak okay Chinese, not sure what GaryGrant looks like but I look okay.
Crazy Guide
12-13-03, 04:59
Hi 12,
Look I don't know where you hang out, as for me, I speak very little Mandarin, and have only been to SH 4 months. I live out of a hotel. But I have more than a handful of married and seperated ones to choose from. Quoting blankie "i am getting tired of too much f**king".
Really, can't tell you where to look, maybe you should try icq or msn, all of us have had successes from there. Of course, they gyms too; Man, those gym gals are hot. especially if you go to the gyms during day, office hours. Or if you are into more immediate gratifications, try malones, Big bamboo or any maoming lu clubs like Judy's too.
let us know how it goes.
CG
Thirty Mins
12-13-03, 19:12
Lemas Mitchell,
There are many reasons why a professor in China shouldn't sleep with his students, but I'm sure you've already thought of those.
Let me give you two good reasons why you might want to sleep with university students:
1. Some will sleep with their Chinese professors for grades, money, both, or for whatever reason.
2. University students in China aren't allowed to marry, and most have too much pride to consider dropping out to marry before they would otherwise graduate.
Make sure you are generous with your offers of private tutoring. Be careful though, for all the curious and friendly young girls, there are some who are very nationalistic, and would enjoy humiliating a dirty foreigner.
Rayman
12-14-03, 06:33
My favourite are the shopping malls, big department stores, or gym days. Generally speaking a married woman will never let you near her house until she knows you very well. But for heavens sake DON"T be obvious - they hate being thought of as easy, though they are in fact.
My fastest ever was at the side door of the Friendship store in GZ. From first conversation to a bbbj was about 25 minutes flat, and she was a 10++, rich successful but her hubby had a string of girlfriends - (big business man type) - and that is common for chinese men generally speaking. The wife just puts up with it.
OldAsiaHand
12-26-03, 08:05
Gentlemen,
Off the subject of freebies for a moment, which I get fairly little of compared to some my fellow mongers.
I am sure some of you have found yourself in a similar situations. Staying at a 4-star hotel in a 2nd line Chinese town, I call the Beauty Salon for a girl. Sichuan girl arrives and starts a 3 minute massage, then pops the question, "do you want something extra?" I determine that BJ is not in the cards, BBBJ or CBJ, so we are just talking straight sex. A request for pricing received a 1,000RMB reply, to which I respond is ridiculous. "How much do you want to pay?" What is the bottom line? 800, no, 600, OK? "I will just take the massage." "500 is my last offer", to which I reply 300 is the best I can offer.
She still takes off her clothes, remove my shorts, climbs on top and starts giving me a body to body massage. Slides a condom on and slides me in. Periodically as she is riding me, I am reminding her that we have not agreed on price, have we? I turn her over and remind her again and she just avoids the issue. I finish missionary style and she is off to the bathroom to clean up.
I give her the 300RMB, "Not enough". I give her another 100 for good measure, and she says, "200 more". I am getting angry. She refuses to leave the room. I have to physically grab her by the arm and show her the door.
Any similar experiences? How is this situation usually handled?
OAH
Always Needing It
12-26-03, 10:29
OAH, such Pros know the market and, of course, are also out to squeeze for that additional red note. I would usually insist on paying at/near the front desk...and have had to raise my voice occassionally for this privilege. And 50 or 100 additional at the door should be sufficien to shrug off the tugging.
Hold-on tight to your valuables :)
Rayman
12-26-03, 10:40
Sometimes this happens OAH. Frankly speaking you should have paid a fair price, and you would have felt better afterwards as well, or are you hard up teacher, facing a pension scandal or something.
The best way to handle it is to be sure from the start, as perhaps she was hoping you would give her more later. She could have given you quite a bit of trouble depending on her connections with the hotel or with outsiders. Next time just pay up, as long as it is fair for both, and you have been here long enough to know.
In a 4 Star hotel it is difficult to get anything below 800 - and that is away from the main cities. It was 1000 a shot 5 years ago in Gunagzhou.
Did the money also include the massage coast for the Hotel? Usually close to 100rmb.
There's a lot of money in these top hotels, whether from private guests or from 'company is picking up the tab'.
I had a nice chat with one of these girls a few months back and she confirmed anything from 1000 - 2000rmb in the 4-5 star hotels. However they may only get one or two customers per week. Some westerners over from the States give 100US$ minimum as that is how much they pay for some drugged up girl in Times Square sort of deal.
Love Tractor
12-26-03, 20:14
That sort of thing has happened to me, OAH, and I would only have given her the extra 100 if she were very nice and didn't demand it. The last offer on the table was 300, and if she starts giving service, then that means she accepted it. I'm surprised she didn't start giving the service and *then* demand more to finish it!
I treat them with respect as long as they do the same with me, and if they try any BS, I kick their butt out. I don't care if these pro's think I'm a nice guy (read: sucker) or not.
OldAsiaHand
12-27-03, 08:18
Rayman,
How does one define a fair price? I am not hard-up or on a pension, however, I cannot put this on an expense account or am I over here on a short business trip from Times Square. As you know from my posts, I do this thing 3-4 times a week, as you do, but pay for it more unfortunately. I just do not want to pay more than the going rate for the circumstances.
I was in another 4-star hotel in Ningbo a few days earlier and made a deal directly with the lao ban yang in the hotel beauty salon for 300 all-in, including the 100RMB house fee. I have paid between 300-600 for these hotel salon services over the years. Obviously, the sauna girls are more expensive as are the KTV girls in the same hotel. Generally speaking, the beauty salon offers the best value. What is the difference between the salon in the hotel and the ones outside, 4X the price? It does not seem logical to me even with the higher rent.
However, you are right, I should have put a stop to accepting any service until we had completely agreed on the price. This would have avoided the uncomfortable situation in the end. I have been here long enough to know that.
OAH
Dick Johnson
12-27-03, 11:31
Old Asia Hand, allow me to explain this. There are girls that charge you 300 and there are girls that charge 600, 800, up to X000. In China, unlike some other countries like Thailand where the girls pocket the entire amount, the girl will almost always have to give half the money to her "manager". They pretty much never work alone even if they are working on the street or working in a dance club. The manager can be older lady, a pimp/boyfriend etc. Even at Hardrock a freelancer has to pay 200 everytime just to get in with no promise of her getting business. You all ask why the heck does the manager gets so much. Among other reasons, money is set aside in case the girl gets busted, arrested etc. Then the funds will be used to bail her out. The managers helps out the girls in many other ways such as lodging etc. Furthermore, at the end of the day, often the girls give all the money to the manager! Often the funds are also used so that the girls can get expensive visas to work elsewhere.
If the girl charges 600, the manager gets 300. If you pay 400, then the girl gets only 100! Then you seriously underpaid her. But she wont want to get into all this manager stuff with you. What for? Besides people dont like the idea the money goes to someone else.
She gets into trouble going back to her manager with only 400. The manager wont like it because then it creates mistrust-did you pocket 200? The manager knows where the girl is, sometimes they are watching her, or they keep in touch by phone, or the other girls watch her.
So whether it is at Hardrock cafe, a girl waving at you on the street, or a BBS, all the girls have to shell out about half to someone else. It is grossly unfair to use the idea that someone else charges you 300 and the next girl charges 600, and just come up with your own price 400.
OldAsiaHand
12-27-03, 12:34
Dick Johnson,
I beg to differ that the 50/50 split applies universally across China. I have lived here 10 years myself, and have learned a bit about the game. I am nearly certain that in this case the girl gets to keep the amount over and above the house fee. I am absolutely certain this applies to all of the BBS I go to in Shenzhen. IMHO, she is trying to get as much for herself as possible and I admit she probably does get more money most of the time. My mistake was not to refuse to accept the service (obviously little brother was doing the thinking), her mistake was to think I would pay more than I had offered after the deed was done. It is not a matter of what she could get or what others will pay, but rather what I offered to pay which I thought was clearly stated. She had the option to refuse, but rather continued with the service. If she had stopped, I might have reconsidered my needs and the price. She did not give me the option until it was over. This was not fair.
Just my POV.
OAH
Rayman
12-28-03, 07:01
Certainly a difficult situation.
I don't think it is a 50/50 split either but I am sure it is in some places and this is the reason why some girls will negotiate to come to your room after they finish work (say 2:00am) or outside the hotel for a lower price during the day perhaps.
Certainly the larger the establishment the larger their component of the split is, and usually (but not always) the more one has to pay.
Also bear in mind that the girls working in the 4/5star hotels have a very privilaged position, with higher level customers compared to working in the nearby barber shop or freelancing in a disco. Hence they are very aware of the power of the mamasan or whoever.
By the way, you come across in all of your posts OAH as a real decent nice chap, sucker or not. Hey but lets all not end up being visited by Marleys ghost.:-)
Superforce99
12-29-03, 01:47
Well, in my opinion, that "50/50" split is rarely true but then again, especially for you and I, OAH, hotel girls aren't our first option, right? ;)
I think the girl was being a ***** and you did the right thing by physcially tossing her out, but then again, I wouldn't have done the deed until there was some kind of oral agreement on the price.
Also, I'm sure if you weren't obviously a foreigner, it would have been totoally different...
Johnny
Superforce99
12-29-03, 01:50
What??? I just noticed that if I type the word "b*itch" it will be automatically censored but I can type the following:
cum, fuck, shit, cock, pussy, motherfucker, asshole
without being censored? Ha ha...
Johnny
Csun213
12-29-03, 04:07
I believe that the mamason gets 50rmb if she is from BBS or the street pimps however in Hotels the management gets about 200rmb and the girl gets whatever she can.
CC1
12-29-03, 07:49
Johnnykon,
I think Jackson has a thing for treating the women we pay to play with respect. Hence, words like b itch etc are censored.
I must say, I do treat the women with respect - except for when I unload on an unsuspecting face and get that nasty look : )
CC1
OldAsiaHand
12-29-03, 14:25
Fellow Mongers:
Thank you all for your advice. Bottom line is I should have waited until the price was definitively agreed before I accepted the service. Frankly, I did not think about any repercussions of throwing her out. I may have been lucky that nobody came back to visit. I do remember one previous post of mine where I did advise a fellow monger to pay the extra to avoid trouble. It may have just been her attitude that pissed me off.
Johnny, I guess we have been spoiled by all that cheap BBS pussy.
Csun/Rayman: I have had KTV girls in certain hotels meet me after work so they did not have to give mommy 200RMB which I believe is the standard cut for KTV mamasans in Guangdong.
Happy Holidays!
OAH
P.S. Rayman, are you referring to Jacob Marley? A very fitting analogy for this time of year!
TangZhen
12-31-03, 16:04
Rayman:
You must be the master of seduction. I have much to learn from you (line from Cultural Revolution period). 25 min is stellar. I am kicking myself a bit as there was a hot, hot, hot woman (I am typically VERY rare to give this level of compliment) who came into a hair place. I had obstacles as my wife goes there frequently and the wife was waiting for me, so a walkup would have been risky, but I would have tried if I had more time. I have learned Chinese are the worst at keeping secrets.
Do you make your approaches in Chinese? If so, please write me and let me know you basic approach. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service. Or we can schedule a time to get together.
Cheers,
Joe
Rayman
01-02-04, 03:47
TZ,
I usually grab my groin whilst thrusting my hips forwards and screaming "Come on babe take some of this"...works everytime particularly in public places.
hohoho.
I am just a good looking guy, what more can I say. However one tip. If you spend the same amount of thought / time / money on the teenage office girl as chasing dirty barbershop girls you would have instant success, lots of free sex and avoid all the health pitfalls and legal entanglements.
TangZhen
01-04-04, 04:09
Rayman:
I partially agree with you, but being married creates quite a few obstacles that the BBS's solve (place, available nearly 24x7, selection). If I were single, I think I would be hell on wheels, but alas I am not.
I will try your 'fang fa' (method) and see what happens. Know of any good chinese lawyers to help me get bailed out?
Do you speak Chinese well? To date no health or legal problems, knock on wood.
Thirty Mins
01-06-04, 19:00
Hotel BBS will always be more expensive than outside, but this is for many reasons.
Obviously, like your minibar, the hotel BBS girls offer more convenience than running outside and searching. In the case of a Coke, you pay 5-10 times the price. For hotel BBS service, it could be 2-3 times the price, as you've experienced.
Another factor is safety. While many brothers here have no qualms about escorting some new-found friend into a hotel, we've all heard stories of being stopped by security, or having the police knock on the hotel door. Hotel BBS girls are the safest from a law enforcement point of view, because a good chunk of money finds its way back to the hotel (high rent prices for the shop, etc.). Even in the middle of a crackdown, you don't need to worry about calling for such services. A sauna or BBS can always be raided.
Even Chinese pay high prices. One reason is that some guys have good connections with the police in their home town, but could be in big trouble if caught in another city. Sometimes westerners can get away with such things, but other times we can get caught too.
OK, so there are advantages, but prices are high and girls will try to ask for more afterwards. I have experienced this problem myself.
The only solution is to negotiate a total price before. Girls will often try to get a "tai fei" (house fee) afterwards, in addition to the agreed price. I got cheated this way before.
There is a way to deal with it: when negotiating the price, don't just ask "duo shao?" (how much), ask "zong gong duo shao?" (how much in total). Also, confirm again "bao kuo tai fei ma?" (does that include the house fee?).
Also it is good to say that you only have a little money "wo zhi you X kuai qian". Think through things before the girl gets in the room and your brain shuts down.
Net Egg
01-07-04, 06:52
Folks,
How do you get freebies by going to online chat rooms? Any particular server and rooms that you can recommend? What are the tactics that you used and proven to be effective?
Rambling Guy
01-07-04, 19:20
I agree with Rayman, if you go to China on a regular basis, it's much easier to find a sharp college girl or office professional who's a virgin, never had a boyfriend, and if they like you right away, it takes about two weeks to get that first kiss and usually by the next date they're spending the night.
Once they love you, they'll do anything and they're quick learners. It's way cheaper and they're great company besides.
Most high class girls won't date until they get out of college, but they tend to make exceptions for western guys. Lucky us!
Csun213
01-09-04, 04:44
The only problem with a Virgin is that when you break it off with her there will be problems. Knew a Taiwan friend who took a girl's virgin, then when things didn't work out between them, tried to break it off and the girl's family send people to get him. He had to leave his business in China and run back to Taiwn. Remember it doesn't take a lot of money to have someone killed in China. Never mess with a Virgin unless you are thinking about marrying her. Ask anyone who have stayed in China for a while and they will tell you.
Rambling Guy
01-09-04, 09:10
Thanks for the advice. I guess I was lucky so far but I'll be more cautious in the future!
Rayman
01-11-04, 06:31
I have had only 3 virgins (in 8 years) and each one ended in tears (for them and heavy regrets for me)...the last time I had the chance I backed down at the very last moment (upon her quivering body) and told her to fall in love first, and that I was a complete bast**d. I know she will probably end up being deceived by some other guy but it gets to a point in which i get sick of cheating. Mostly I stick to women with hubbys or with bf's, lots of fun and no hassles.
I speak Chinese well, Tangzhen.
OldAsiaHand
01-12-04, 02:21
The only virgin I have had in China is the one I married. Virginity is still a very valuable possession for most Chinese women. Loss of it may limit their ability to get a good Chinese husband, although this is changing with time, especially in cities. If you take it from them, they expect that you are very serious about the relationship, even contemplating marriage. Best to stay with those with prior experience.
I believe many western men may be fooled with the lack of direct communication from Chinese women. Unlike many of their counterparts in the West, they do not always verbalize their feelings in a straightforward way. They often expect you to read between the lines.
Having said that, I know there are virgins for sale in China. Last offer I had in DG was RMB7,500 for 3 days. I declined. Not my cup of tea.
Just my POV.
OAH
Wanabee
01-15-04, 05:02
Greetings from the States, I'm planning a trip to BJ in a few months and love reading the great stories and advice you guys have written.
For now I have questions about a local situation. I've flirting with a waitress, 2 years gone Fu Jian, and have spent a couple of afternoons with her. I'm trying to get something better going with her. My Mandarin is very rusty (I mongered regularly in TaiPei, etc many years ago). I've been using online dictionaries to prepare my pitches, and came across a term for what I'm really hoping to be: "SugarDaddy" , "tienhsin ba ba". My questions: Is this a phrase a 23 year old would be familiar with (or simply a literal translation of the English SugarDaddy). If it's a real term, would it have a nastier connotation than it does in English? (although she tells me she only nets $10/day waitressing, she's bought a $250 coat and a $150 cell phone and spent $150 on New Year presents for her friends; so I don't know how good a motivator money will be. I told her if I were here boyfriend I'd of bought her the coat but she shrugged it off).
Would appreciate any any info on tienhsin ba ba and any advice on strategy with this young lovely.
Thanks in advance
Rayman
01-17-04, 10:47
Why don't you just take her out for a meal, or promise to teach her English free. Advertising yourself as a Sugerdaddy is, in my view, doomed to failure, unless she is a prostitute, then just throw 100 bucks on the table with your address on it, and have done with the charade.
In all likelihood she may already have some rich chinese business 'friends', hence the 'gifts'.
Wanabee
01-17-04, 19:52
Thanks Rayman,
Already bought her a meal and a couple of small items, but she passed on my hint about buying her the $240 coat, so I don't think she's a pro.
When I told her I could only continue these once per week afternoons together if they are "dates", she said she wasn't interested. So I figure any sex would be a long term, long shot campaign and, given my circumstances, not worth the risk and investment. UNLESS, her resistence is a "typical Chinese" response?
P.S. She just called and I agreed to give her a ride home from the bus station on Tuesday. Also, I'm older than her father and let her know I'm separated (sort of).
Any further advice on scoring from you old China hands would really be much appreciated.
Thanks in Advance
TangZhen
01-18-04, 14:41
Wanabe:
I agree with Rayman, the Sugardaddy strategy is likely not your best bet unless you want to assume the Chinese version of such. You may be vary familiar with all that entails, if not, dont go there. Personally I would not and I agree that finding some common ground is likely the best way to go and see how you might fit in well with her thinking. Reading between the lines is tough for us long noses as there are lots of cultural items we would not pick up on in addition to the language thing, thus expect it to take more time.
That being said, you have a lot of advantages, you need to see how being different is going to help you and work on it.
Wanabee
01-18-04, 17:50
Thank you TangZhen,
As you and Rayman advise, I'll steer clear of the SugarDaddy tact. Despite the low wage she reports, money does not seem to be a major motivator. The main need I seem to be satisfying is for a transporter / companion / translator / guide.
She lives together in a with bunch of co-workers in job associated housing. She is very careful about being SEEN leaving or returning with me. Insists on day time pickup. I figure she'd lose face if her co-workers saw her DATING an old white guy? However, she's not shy at all about being seen in the malls with me, but my marital status makes it risky for me.
My question of you experts out there: Based on your experience, how big an obstacle would you guess my age, 50, and marital status (wife lives 400 miles away), would be for a brave 23 year old Chinese girl?
Thanks again in advance.
Rayman
01-19-04, 08:59
The fact that she called you is a very good sign. No obstacle on the age, but be careful about the 'face' thing, and don't put her into a situation that may embarrass her. (i.e pet her infront of her friends, or stare/smile at her) - she will run and run. I think that is the biggest reason why foreigners fail with the freebies.
You may have more success if you are cold towards her in front of her mates but at the same time try and get time ALONE with her - back at your pad, to cook her a meal??
Better get some pictures posted mate...:-))
Wanabee
01-20-04, 05:08
Rayman, et al,
Thanks for the encouragement, but "...get some pictures posted", come on, give me a break. That's at least a few hours away;-)
It sounds like she's got nothing going for Chinese New Year's. I don't have much time Wednesday, but I'll at least offer to take her to a nice lunch. Any ideas on something which she'd especially appreciate under her deprived/"ke hsi" CNY circumstances?
Thanks again in advance.
Cheers
dragon_heart
01-21-04, 15:17
Brotherhood,
While viewing some of the past articles and told my friend how much findings I can get here in this forum. Great job! Now some serious problem he had with his gf who is in China. He asked me to search for some private investigator for him on the Internet. I managed to get 2-3 but they never did respond to the email my friend ask me to sent (he doesn't like comp that much nor have limited Internet access).
Now since most of our forumers here had been to China or even work there, is there by any chance that you could introduce or pass me the contact of those detective/private investigation to me? That's all I need and my friend will do the ground work. I believe he suspect his gf in China is cheating on him, telling me that she had divorce with her hubby and staying out alone. So I guess all he need is just some basic adultery or affair investigation on the legal site.
Your information is highly appreciate. PM me on the contacts. Thanks again.
TangZhen
01-21-04, 18:30
Wanabe:
To my eye you are getting things a bit better in focus, unfortunately you are running into the obstacles all us married guy run into.
What you likely want is a QingFu, what she is a bit shy about is being seen as a loose girl. It is fine to have a friend and maybe a lover for her as long as it is vague enough not to attract attention.
The really painful aspect would be if she finds out you are married and feels it unfair that you did not let her know, at which point you are pretty much sure to have some significant issues in your life. You are likely better off seeing what she wants and how motivated she is to have a partner for not marriage. The problemm is that sometimes they get clingy which makes the wife thing VERY complicated, and the 200 RMB for a rental will look really nice. Single guys have a massive advantage here. If you explore her needs and what she is looking for and how you might fill some of those needs (no pun intended), you will be in a much better position when it come time to have her compromise in order to avoid the wife.
Just my point of view.
tz
Wanabee
01-22-04, 07:18
tz, et al,
thanks for your insights. to be clear, this mini drama is taking place in the usa. the girl is basically "just off the boat" (left fujian 2 years ago).
funny, during our first afternoon she non chalantly asked about my taitai (assuming i had one). i admitted that i had a wife who lives and works 500 miles away (true, and i had decided i was gonna tell her anyway). funny because during our 10 rep001tered hours together since, i was the only one to mention my wife (in expaining the danger of being seen around town with a young lady.)
since my last post, she beat me to the punch by calling to get together on new years day. after a huge lunch (which she tried to pay for) we had some very pleasant moments but she resisted going anywhere remote (e.g. drive to the local lake). then, as during our previous afternoon, i nicely told her, given the risks, etc. there could be no more afternoons together since she was not interested in dating. i was more direct this time. we agreed we'd look foward to seeing each other at the restaurant where she works. so unless she calls looking for something to do on a future day off, and agrees it's a date, story over.
oh tz, you used the term, qingfu, what's that mean? and yueh hwei means simply "date" or "dating", not courtship, right?
thank you guys for your help.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-22-04, 08:54
I believe he suspect his gf in China is cheating on him, telling me that she had divorce with her hubby and staying out alone. So I guess all he need is just some basic adultery or affair investigation on the legal site.
Hey, Dragon heart,
Just post her phone number, address and going rate and we'll all go by and see if she does adultery!
Big Looser
01-23-04, 06:45
Dear all fellow WSG members,
It's my first post to the forum. I really really need your advice and views on many aspect of scenario, the game that she currently trying to play and hide from me. Judging from everyone experience, I draw the currently dilemma I had and hoping everyone could at contribute something for me and the rest.
Story line
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She is from China. I met her by friends recommendation. She told me she was tricked down to work here (as a hostress initially) but being push into prostituition. She cried for a week and resist to work, but after so much pursuading from workmate, she have to work. Then on, she knew me and we spend our time together. While she was bailed out by another guy and promise him for 3 month companion, she fulfilled the 3 months and stay with me. In that period of 3 months, I already start hooking her up and have our usual dating without the other guy knowledge.
Then she stay with me for about 2 months, and it's time for me to send her back. Bought her the ticket and etc, she fly back to China. We'd made lots of promises that this separation is only for a while and soon she will return to me. She told me she had something to settle when she go back there. We chat over the phone everynight. Until after 2 weeks afterward, she cried and had some problem there. Then I keep guessing until I guess the right thing, she had a legal married hubby back in China. She told me she doesn't love him and things cannot be settled cause it doesn't seem to be easy as she thought. Told me that she come here to work last time is because her hubby have cohabilation and she had a heart broken, that's why come here and work. She tried to break up with me on the phone, but I insist I will support her morally. In the end, we didn't breakup still.
One day, her hubby call me. Sounds very angry and tell me if I want to talk, go to China and talk to him. Insist to talk to her, but not allow. She had told her hubby about me and her. Emotionally worried and scare if he will do anything to her, so I decided to look for her. I flied to China and look for her, spend a week together at different province and understand the situation much clearer (all told from her). She also brought her bro to see me for couple of hours and had a light meal together. she said she love me deeply and willing to give up everything for the sake of me. Tried to tell her come back down here and we'll be together. But apparently her country resist or temporary holding her passport for 1/2 year or 2 years before she can come down again. So the idea is useless.
When I'm there, I get to know they are both now staying together. She is confused of what to do and I ask her to think for herself, staying with someone she don't love doesn't bring any happiness. The main reason I see here is that she can't let go the house which is under her name, that she used to work hard to pay for the installment. But again, her hubby condition said if she want the house, he will not divorce her. Told her to take at least 1 week to think about it, think for herself and not me. Divorce will solve lots of problem, though not with me but it'll be beneficial for her such as if she own something else, after divorce they will not belong to her hubby where he might treaten her the same thing like the house case. After 1 week, she then divorce him, the house change name and she got nothing now. She is currently outside renting a room while looking for a job.
Her hubby call me again, told me that I got what I wanted already. They already divorce. Starting telling me something new to me, all about her. Told me that she used to live in villagers, divorce is like leaving a bad reputation to her. She is so skinny now due to mentally torture and all the pressure from friends & family who discourage her to divorce. But she already took that step. Told me that she tell different story in front of him, lie a lot to him. Told me last time she doesn't want to work but play cards at home. Told him she actually intend to go down here to work, but he discourage. She insist and finally come down here but regret later cause it is not what she thought working as hostress. Now it feels like his hubby is trying to physco me to leave her cause she is a witch who will try to get with you and I pay for all her livings (if marry her). He even told me that after she come down here for 1 week, she call back to him and say she regret coming down here and ask him to rescue her. He is 47 years old while she is 31 years old. His hubby make me feel like trusted me and give me his mobile so I can contact him anytime to ask for info or advice. He told me he have all the past experience that I've been through and my condition now is like in dilemma and sympathy only. It won't last long. I guess he still doesn't know that I plan to work in China later.
Big Looser
01-23-04, 06:50
Second part (last part of the story)
I do not that both of them do communicate, but not sure to which extend. They may be exchanging info for this conning but that is something uncertain. So I'm trying to guess what game they are playing and set the right trap for her to fall into and know the whole picture. I do still want to be with her after all this shit things past, she had the quality of a wife which I always want. But I need to know the truth!
Perception of the hubby (after conversation on the phone with him):
- she is a lazy wife, play cards at home.
- she refuse to listen to his advice, she fly here to work and get cheated.
- he tried hard to rescue her but he can't.
- now she is back, got to know me that help her so much when she's down here.
- she ask to divorce cause she said she rather hurt him than hurting me.
- he tried rationally telling her she should not divorce and win her back.
Perception of her:
- his hubby cheated in her relationship.
- she got heart broken and wish to leave the country.
- she got cheated and regret for the consequences.
- she met me, and I help her.
- she start to love me and willing to sacrify for me.
- she went back with intention to divorce him but got herself into trouble (caused by house ownership).
- confused overtime when confronting of getting back the house with wanting to divorce.
- chose to divorce and forget about the house, trusted me and she move out and get a job.
- hoping I will be with her.
My perception:
- love her whole heart and wish to marry her.
- when she is with me down here, she hardly ask for any money. I just give her money to buy foods.
- after she got back china also didn't ask for money.
- heart broken after knowing she had hubby.
- trying to make her happy, motivate her and comfort her when she is sad.
- trust her for her instinct to divorce and be with me.
- she always warn me that there may be more problems ahead if we are together (sounds like she had intention be with me).
- told me not the right time to meet her parents because she just divorced but can bring me see her friends.
- willing to give up my job here and work in China and see how things goes.
- my commitment to work for 1 year in China, then evaluate back if she is the one for me.
- if she is, will marry her and get her down to my home.
- start feeling funny when her hubby call me, why her hubby know so much about me and why she tell him.
- why not her hubby start physco me about how witch or dangerous this woman is.
- are they really divorce? Is he the minder trying to swindle me?
- if she is not conning me, she had divorce him, will see what her intention is.
- is she joined a group of female who is doing similar thing conning guys? Am I another victim?
- but she hardly have real friends even when she's down here, she can't mix around well with others.
- she's not the easy type of going, sensitive to the words I speak and cried if my words hurt her so much.
That's my lengthy story. Any single piece of info and advice really could get me out of this cloudy day. Well, again thank you so much for listening!
TangZhen
01-23-04, 10:35
Wanabe:
I think you are getting close to the answer. I could be wrong but I would bet she wants public places so she can have some 'safe' fun and avoids private locations becasue she is not into that type of relationship at this point.
QingFu means mistress. Qing basically means feeling and Fu is associated with wife (FuRen), put the two together and it has the meaning of a wife based on feeling (as opposed to legal). Another term is WaiRen which can also mean foreigner if you use a different tone. Dont you just love this language, so complex. Sorry to any Chinese if I got any of these incorrect.
As for a term for date, frankly I dont know. I would not give you a term unless I had herd it used as dictionaries often use words that are only good in specific contexts and dont well illustrate.
Genuis8
01-24-04, 05:32
Yueh Hwei simply means an appointment for 2 (or more) people to meet at a certain time & place. It does not imply a date, as in dating between a man & woman.
Wanabee
01-24-04, 05:40
Thanks Genius8,
Do you or anyone else out there know the word for "a date" and "dating"? My "target" (a native speaking girl) is the one who started using the term when I asked for the Chinese for "a date". That's the term we've been using during several meetings she keeps saying are not of the "yueh hwei" variety :-(
Thanks for any help.
Csun213
01-24-04, 07:04
Hi Big Looser, first what country do you live at? Second, I have heard of girls like her from my Taiwan friends. The Chinese girls are getting smarter. They used to ask for money all the time and found out that most of the guys just run. Now they don't ask for money, make you feel like money is not important to them. Get the guys to fall hard for them and then they can get all the money they want out of the saps.
Marrying a Chinese girl when you are not Chinese is very difficult. Even Taiwan guys have problems with their Chinese wives. There is the language problem, then there is the culture problem. A Chinese family will never accept outside their race. Some won't even accept Taiwanese. Would she feel left out when you are with your friends speaking in your language and won't you feel left out when you are with her family speaking Mandarin?
I am not trying to tell you how to live your life but I am a Chinese-American and have lived in the U.S. since I was 5 years old. Speak fluent Chinese, worked in Taiwan as a General Manager for 10 years. Have dated a lot of Chinese girls both from Taiwan and Mainland. Have quite a few Taiwan and American Chinese friends who have married Chinese girls so I do know the problems that will face you if you decide to get serious about her.
As for finding out about her real background, it would only cost you about 1500rmb to hire a private eye to check her out. Just try to get her ID number if possible, findout which city she was born and lived and he will find out everything about her. Warning, do not pay the PI more than 500rmb to start the job. Pay more money each time he gives you a report on her and her family. You must also check out her parents because in China if her parents owes money, then the daughter is on the hook for the money also.
Sorry to go on so long but this is just the tip of the iceburg.
Three I
01-24-04, 07:11
Big loser,
I think you should cut and run! She has emotional problems and she is going to fuck your world up. A hooker is a hooker first be careful she is fucking with your feelings that is her job!
Lubricate It
01-24-04, 12:28
Big Loser
I agree with Three X. Try and cut your losses and run (easier said than done, I know). I went thru something like this in the very first posts on this board. It has decimated me for 2 years, though I think it's behind me now. There are millions of attractive young women in China who don't carry baggage like you are dealing with.
Rayman
01-24-04, 14:43
Big L,
Would be interesting to know your country, your age, and your status back home. In other words do you have the pick of the ladies or have you been single for several years and face a lonely older-life.
The problem is that you" love her with your heart". Difficult situation mate, and none of the know-it-all lady-lovers on this site will help you. Every relationship has problems whether you marry the girl next door or someone on the other side of the world. If you follow your heart you will have no regrets, listen to someone else and you may well have.
I would be tempted to go to China and try it out for a year as you have suggested. If no good just pack it all in. You have lost nothing, just get back your old job later.
Big Looser
01-25-04, 10:10
Csun213,
I live in Singapore and yes this is not my first encounter with Chinese girls. They are getting smarter, smarter to an extend where none of us here can imagine how they turn out like that!
But I try to out-smart the girl, observing her and other girls where she work. In my observation, I believe my eyes and ear that she could not mix along well with those more 'evil' pros whom I know. Spoke to those 'evil' pros and all of them just don't like my girl hence I do trust she is not evil at all. But again who will knows, the truth is still out there unexplored. I am a chinese born in Singapore so she would not have any problem adapt to the environment here and get along with my friends. Remember she stayed with me 2 months? She met most of my friends and my friends comment her as being nice person to talk to. Introducing my friends to her is my objective to set a trap and let her fall in it, it's like if she really a *****, she'll seduce them but it doesn't happen. Where one of my friend trying to be funny hug her, he end up with a slap. He he! I appreciate your view and honesity with your experience heard and feel dealing with those girls out there. Care to share your story with us? ;-)
Do you have any network contact for private eyes as mention? 1500rmb is no big deal and I will try to get her ID number. Please PM me any private eye that you know, it definitely help alot! Gracious!
ThreeX & L It,
If she is my first encounter, I fuck her off long ago without messing my world up and down. A hooker is always a hooker, but hey not all are bad! They are human after all, moreover my is cheated to work for a short period. I had read your first post about your encounter and I sympathy with your situation. I guess it'll never hurt enough if I haven't knock myself up! Jesus christ!
Rayman,
Singaporean, 27 and my status is being single. 2 years in pros activities and these my second encounter. First encounter screw her up! She fall in my trap and adios! It is true that whichever relation have it's own problem. If I follow my heart, I will regret later, but if I listen to wsg experience, I have my caution and bottom line to cut when it turns out! Yah hell, just spend a year in China and get into the scene! At most, I waste a year!
Best of all brudder!
Three I
01-26-04, 07:07
She is selling you an illusion of reality not reality. I think it would be best if you cut your losses. You can find a non pro and she may love you just as much as this girl says she loves you.
She is not the only girl in the world for you. I have met countless men in the military who have married or are divorced from hookers and the shit was not all rosy! I have seen women (my friend mothers) leave their families because3 they just couldn't leave the money.
Also most of their mothers friends are or were hookers. Also, what kind of influence does that have on a relationship? She doesn't like her job! Shit I don't like my job but it is work! Who on this board loves their work!
You are the knight in shining armor saving the sweet woman from her life. The moment you solve her problems you will become her problem. This is the truth I did it and was dropped 2 months later and the SOB she dropped me for may have married the *****! She was into serveral married agencies in the U.S. seeing several guys all over fucking L.A. (San Gabriel Valley) and I was bare backing her! I was so fucking stupid, I could have killed myself! On top of that she was fucking guys at a cAMP!
She may want a different identity after you marry her. She may drop you and start a new life with a new name or names then she may fine someone else!
Three X out!
Rayman
01-26-04, 07:32
I agree with 3XXX that she will immediately found someone else if you two split up. That is for sure.
I will tell you a story here. Knew a girl in GZ, married to a guy in Alaska for a few years. She: mid 30's, him 60+, met him though a US/China internet dating agency and when he come over, they quickly married. She had come back to GZ for a months holiday, and quickly fell into my clutches (and my bed). She was devoted to him, no doubt and she loved him, looked after him went fishing together (saw the photos). I kept in contact with her older sister and subsequently she updated me on the relationship. This sister is now in canada, incidentally.
He died of a heart attack (They had been together 5 years) and she married the Policeman that attended the inquest.
Now some of you may say he had been taken advantage of. Perhaps. But she made his last few years on this earth happy ones. That is good and worth being taken advantage of. How many old men of 60 do we see back home leading a lonely boozed life.
BUT Big L, you are 27, too young. You must battle though this time and get someone (a sweetie) to fall in love with. Don't be a prat.
Throw away all the contact information you have, delete everything. STOP playing GAMES with her and yourself. What sort of bloke are you?
Be happy and don't think too much.
Soujourn
01-26-04, 08:46
Big L,
Just my 2RMB worth. I've met and tried to 'rescue' women my whole adult life. Starting with my first 'true love' who was an alcoholic stripper recently retuned from Alaska, then moving to a despondent artist with a beautiful voice and a small heroin habit. From there, a super cute and amazing performance artist that kept her energy level high by various substances - and her rent paid by dating. All I can say is this. DONT DO IT! Once they are in 'The Life' they never leave. It's completely embedded as part of their psyche. It's their escape mechanism and fallback for any situation. And it's how they deal with any relationship problems in defence. They know that you can easily be replaced by the next john with a few rmb and a shoulder to cry on.
You are making a big mistake, my friend, in pursuing this relationship. There are so many other women ready to work hard to create a good family, relationship and responsible postion with you. Take a step back and let your big head do some thinking.
I'd say most of the men here have probably succumbed to some level of this play and lost a little more than they choose to admit or acknowledge. I know I have! When you are out mongering please follow the 3F's as a religion! Look at the circumstance of your meeting! Deep inside, neither of you respect or trust each other fully - nor will that ever be the case.
Maybe we should start an intervention service for love struck mongerers. Or at least an MA hotline.
S
OldAsiaHand
01-26-04, 08:51
Big Looser,
There is a saying about bar girls in Thailand, which is suitable for pros almost anywhere in the world,
"You can take a girl out of a bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl."
Having said that, I have seen a very, few exceptions to the rule over the years, but the odds are extremely high against it working out once she crosses the line.
There are millions of beautiful women in China without all the issues and baggage. Put the PI money towards a plane ticket and come on over for a year and check it out for yourself.
Just my POV.
OAH
Thirty Mins
01-26-04, 17:46
Big Looser,
You are a young man in love, and she is a Chinese girl. There is no question about who is going to be smarter. Mainland Chinese women are the most determined in the world.
Even if you are ethnic Chinese from Singapore, you shouldn't fool yourself into thinking you understand them. You were raised in two seperate worlds. Ask any Taiwanese guy with a Shanghainese girlfriend and he will tell you, they are both Chinese but that doesn't mean they are the same.
I would not reassure myself because the other working girls don't like her. Every profession has its etiquette and honor, even that one.
Spike
01-27-04, 03:11
Hey, L (and advisors),
I was just browsing when I found this thread. Hope you don't mind if I chime in.
There is an element of truth to what OAH and Sojurn have to say; "the life" IS a fall back for many (if not all) of these women. It is just like any trade or position. Who among us wouldn't "fall back" on our most lucrative vocation in a pinch? But, what does that prove?
Look, there are all kinds of convoluted emotions and values swirling around this issue. We f*ck these women because that is our biological imperitive. The f*ck us back because that is how they make a living. But... they are still women of the human species. Time and space don't permit me to launch into a full philosophical discussion of whether or not ALL women are *****s, but that case can be made. Hell, I think the mission statement of this website is such that we are sharing information so we can f*ck for as little monetary expenditure as possible. They are trying to MAKE as much money as possible. Does anyone on this board ascribe a higher motivation to most of the women in the U.S.? Europe? Africa? Come on, this is the way the game is played, it only varies by degree. Does anyone here think Anna Nicole LOVED that old vulture she married? Men are looking to save the vulnerable Princess, women are looking to be saved by Prince Charming. Why do you all think that is such a common theme? Because it is so fundamentally real. The customer/provider relationship breaks it down into the most basic of transactions, stripping away (pardon the pun) all the horse-sh*t that "civilized" society has slathered on the male/female dance.
Someone further down the thread alluded to finding a higher quality partner. Well, guess what? That is no guarantee! The mother of my two daughters, white American, good family, upper middle class, no drug problems, seemingly the perfect wife, ended up cheating on me with FIVE different guys while I was away at the office. THEN she left me with the two kids (thank God!). Nobody knows...
My first wife, many many years ago, was the perfect wife. I was too young and stupid to know. She worked, both in and out of the house. She treated me like a king. Cooking, cleaning, sex on demand.. you name it, she did it. Problem? I was, once again, young and stupid. She was from the Philippines, I met her in a bar while I was in the Navy. She was a pro, made her living the only way she could. But, I'll tell you this..... she was the most faithful, loyal, dedicated and hard working woman I've ever known. She would have gladly stepped in front of a train for me. That is no exaggeration. Her big drawback was jealousy; she didn' t want me to be out going to night school. Probably insecurity. I could have handled it, but.... young and stupid.
I'm thinking you have a pretty well defined group of guys frequenting this board. From the looks of it, many of them have had bad experiences with women, both professional AND non-professional. If a life of fidelity to one pure, angelic maiden is THE way to assure happiness and freedom from heart break, what the f*ck are we all doing HERE?
Your gal may have hardened herself to her position in life, but, don't kid yourself. She is still a human being (albeit a female human being), and she will respond to some of the feelings you are giving her. OR NOT!! Who knows? Is it worth the chance? Only you can decide. It is natural to be guarded about this type of relationship, but don't shut your eyes to the possibilities. It sounds to me like you are infatuated, but it also sounds like you are keeping your eyes open and being somewhat analytical rational about this gal and your relationship with her. That is all you can do in ANY situation, L. Just give it your best shot.... over time you will BOTH learn more about each other and show more to each other. There are no guarantees, but that is true all the way around.
Good Luck, L. You won't need it any more or any less than the rest of us.
Spike, out.....
P.S. I have a suspicion that many guys are somehow kind of jealous, even if on a subconscious level, when a fellow comes up with the "perfect wife" story (or question).... "Hey, why can't that be me?? I'm at least as good as THAT clown!!". Take my advice, you can probably do worse than to follow your heart.
Lucky888
01-27-04, 09:31
Big L,
I've been following this thread for several days. In your most recent post, one comment hit me over the head.
You wrote "...my friends comment her as being nice person to talk to."
Well, buddy, I got news for you, if that's the best thing your friends had to say about her, then I can only conclude that either:
a) your friends didn't get to know her beyond chit-chat, in which case their opinion is basically useless (if she hadn't been nice to talk to, you probably wouldn't be caught up in her)
or
b) your definition of "friend" is not the same as mine
or
c) that was truly the best most unoffensive things your friends could say about her, and they don't have the heart (or balls) to tell you what they really think of her.
I'm willing to bet it ain't b).....so where does that leave her? If it's a), then I think you and her need to spend more time with your friends. If c)......
Lubricate It
01-27-04, 23:35
Big Looser
Despite this being is the sort of board it is, I think there is a huge amount of collective wisdom in the last 10 posts or so from guys who know what they're talking about. Summing up is more difficult.
I agree with Rayman and Spike that following your heart and she following her heart should be what you do.
But the important thing is you have to act now and decisively and take her out of her present environment, otherwise all you face is a lot of angst. She has to make a clean break, and you have to provide for her fully: sexually, socially, and financially for her to do this. Any good partnership should enable this. But unless you do this she will fall back on her present ways, even after marrying you.
As far as she's concerned her body is a depreciating asset and she needs to make the most of it now to provide for her future and her security. You need to convince her that the situation has changed and it has changed now!
Otherwise forget her and turn a new page. You will quickly find lots of fine women out there.
Si Ma Yi
01-29-04, 08:04
Big Looser,
I've read your story and forumers' advice. I was in a relationship with a Thai ho. I am a Malaysian Chinese. I too wanted to "rescue her" from her trait. My friends' advice to dump her was useless. I chalked it up as my friends' ignorance of not knowing her which led them to conclude that she was exploiting me financially.
Long story short, she left me for a fellow Malaysian when I was broke. I don't know your girl personally but a ho is a ho in any country.
Be strong and say your goodbye.
E
Orientalovers
02-01-04, 10:20
Big Looser,
Read your whole posting and fellower's advises too.
What I should say is that a relationship must build up by time goes. Progressive relationship for you and her is highly insisited.
Do take your time to understand her more.
I am a Malaysian, 45 age, I do have the same relationship with a lovely 18 haerbin girl who first work in pro line. Last year September, her virginity was lost to me as I paid to pimp. At the end I 'rescued' her and sent her back to her home, a small town 100km away from Haerbin. I did paid a lot of money for her family and encourage her to make her new life. We love each other very much. Because of nationality, culture, education, origin and much more is the understanding ,reliability and trust, I never marry her. I care more about her future and life. I want her to be happy in her life. Now, she is a hard working girl and set up a small garment shop in haerbin with her family. I visit Beijing quite often for business trip. For sure, everytime I will arranged and meet her in Beijing. I can share her happiness and smile always.
Judge your relationship with her carefully, take care and take time. Be more sensitive and reasonable. True love is difficult to find, but it still existing.
Hope you can understand what I am to express to you.
Octopussy in Beijing
Dog Day
02-02-04, 06:08
New to the forum and would like to share and get some information from members regarding tips on how / where to meet, know and date girls in China. I had my success and failures and I have learned to adjust my approach Hopefully others can share their experiences so I can improve my next strategy. Will share experiences by giving a date # and how /what happened with this approach.
I have met all my "friends" through the internet. Its a numbers game. I estimate less than 30% will respond, and 25% of that will be of dating potential for varying reasons, appearance, appeal, personality and the most important of all: You are just not her type.
I am Asian, but I am tall and athletic. My dates always guess I am less than 35. Well, I say yes. Thats a lie, but I fear these girls will not want to go out with a 47 year "old man". I think I am average looking. I have heard dates tell me straight that i am not good looking, while other will say I am OK. I am not a golden collared expatriate, but two 200 RMB dates a week will not ruin my budget. I have a family, but I can keep this a "secret".
Girl# 1:
23 year old Office girl from Beijing. Met in yahoo. Chat for two days. Met after office. 6 in looks 7 body. Had simple dinner and drinks. Asked her if she wants to see my place and she said yes.
Went directly for it and had sex the first date. She was good in bed but after two more dates I felt I had enough. She also smokes which I dislikes. Did not go out with her anymore.
We still keep in touch.
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Sound Stream #2
02-03-04, 02:27
Big Looser,
People tend to be blind to a lot of things when they think they're in love. If your friends or other warn you against going after a "pro," you might blow them off as being ignorant, when in fact, they're trying to help you prevent an obvious mistake. My opinion is that a hoe is hoe. You can't change that. A hoe's mind is all messed up already from the lifestyle she lived, and because of all her emotional scars, and bad habits, there is no way this can ever lead to any long term happiness between you and her. Don't kid yourself. You're only asking for trouble and misery if you marry her.
Some people feel the need to rescue girls from their situation because of something they lack in their own life. The truth is, its not up to you to rescue her. She has to be willing to take the first steps to help herself. By trying to rescue her, you're only going to drag yourself down to the point where you can't even pull yourself up.
And I think you've really got to take a deep breath and open your eyes for a change, because you're obviously missing sight of a lot of cute and respectable Chinese girls who can cook, clean, and take good care of you. So obviously, you've been asleep. Wake up!!!
By the way, lets get a survey:
Have you ever heard of anyone marrying a long term PRO and am happy? Let me hear your shouts and stories!
Logic and reason will tell you, "No Way!"
Whether anyone reading this agrees or not, if you got a story to tell, just post it out.
Hopefully, Big Looser will learn something from watching the experience of many others who have gone through it, or seen someone else go through it.
Big Looser
02-04-04, 12:21
progress report:
thanks for all the brudder concern and sincere comment. with respect to my story, i find a true source of light and confident that i can make a difference among the experience that we had shared. she had went back to china few months ago, and my early post actually include the report of my first trip there to china, not the province where she stay (because she is still married). these time, i will post the 2nd part of the story.
just happen last week, i visit her for 2nd time. it was 1 week holidays (chinese new year) and i intended to inspect the story behind all this. i told her in advance that i am going there. upon arrival, she greet me happily together with her younger sister and her friend's hubby (who is a taxi driver). the weather is freaking cold (5 degree only). then i was brought to a small town (a village in fact) where she rent for rmb150 per month. she had stay in this small room (less than 400 square feet, 1 kitchen, 1 toilet and 1 room) for 2 weeks after divorce with her hubby.
if everyone could recall my report earlier, her ex-hubby took over the house after divorce, even the house belong to her legally. that's the condition her ex put if she want to divorce. she already did that, she even show me the divorce letter and book where each divorce couple will have one. got in the rented apartment, heart bleed seing the place she stay is in such bad condition. the place i notice is indeed new and organized just like she had move in a couple of weeks only. she give up her house and relation with her ex, because she want to take the risk no matter be with me or not.
each day, we treasure each other, my mind still open for possible trap and trick she is playing. day by day, i observe nothing but plain disappointment for being single and start all over her life again in the age of 32 (yeah, she is older than me). even she did not admit that she is disappointing, i just feel it. she brought me to her close friend's house during the chinese new year, and next day she brought me to her cousin house. those are the close people she used to talk to, where all of those people she introduce me have already built their family. they treat me well and had dinner together. they also told me how stupid she was giving up her own 'hardly earned' assets after divorce, which indirectly make me felt guilty (i know she divorce partly because of me).
god knows what till turn out for the next few months. all the advice had been considered, no one could gurantee also if she's not a pro she will treat me sincerely. all the guesses if, then, else may valid but will broke the mutual trust of a relation.
being mature like her knows how many years she can live and what is important for her. though for me i have a small head, i think as big as others given so many views from the respected forumers here. my head think many otherwise, jumping out of the circle and think out-of-the-box. we develop trust and understanding of each other needs. how bad could she be, observing her surrounding friends and cousins that she indeed sincere in a relation, after all this visits? it is true we both came from different background, culture and i don't expect i could read her mind. i work things out, talk to her what i think and she be honest with me what she think and expect being together.
likewise what other brudder said, she will fall back if things doesn't turn out better than imagine. she never like being a pro nor being cheated to work for few months only. what can she fall back to? remarried to the same men again? even the most happiest man who married a beautiful wife does not gurantee a future. as an asian, we do believe that once you own and truthfully treat the other person whom you love, we never regret failing if the relation doesn't turn out to be good as imagine. if any of you had watch the singaporean movie, about the kids and shoes story, you may understand a life is what it takes ahead of you and not the past of a person. she understand what message i delivered to her, exploring her thinking and feeling will never be hard if you could read her basic 4 gesture/movement (speech, tone, body language and sentence). she already made her first step to get out of miserable life, leaving things that is suppose belong to her. this message is clear enough i am sure.
sincerely apologize if i bring too much emotions in this report, i'm fully arm and ready for the obstacle i will face in the future. in fact, in this country, my case is not the only one but there are many who will share my same thought. i am not demanding for a
perfect wife but i want to live with a person who i think is worth sacrifying for. i just want to be a reasonable person and expressive to how we both felt, then agree upon a same conclusion. i respect warning, advice, opinion and experience thought in this forum.
any comments are welcome. i am here to learn, not to regret what people had said. each day, i am getting wiser given views of respected forumers.
thank you.
Three I
02-05-04, 01:28
I guess you don't get it bro! I live near a U.S. military base in Riverside California. I have met many children of hookers and have heard many stories that are really bad.
I guess you have to learn like me!
Rayman
02-05-04, 02:07
Frankly speaking I think in reality a lot of 'us' have married girls with very very dubious backgrounds and morales, but don't know it. Think it out for yourself. Most if not all pros are pros because of necessity not because of a carreer choice. However the girls in the disco on a Friday night who give it away weekly for free between he ages of 19 and 26 before settling down with someone, take your pick.
Orientalovers
02-05-04, 04:07
Big L (not looser now),
After reading your second part report and your opinion, I believe your are more mature and advisable. I cant advise or provide any opinion today, but I am glad you can judge your relationship with her so nicely and prudence.
Dont call yourself a big looser anymore, like I address you as Big L. Hope to hear from you soon.
Be happier always.
Three I
02-05-04, 08:07
Just take care and warp it up Big L! As for choosing a job! When they came here, to the United States, illegally they knew what they were doing! What about the college students in Australia, Canada and the UK that are working in AMPs they can go home too! These girls don't have to fuck these are college students. Part of the game is for you to feel sorry for them! Play the game don't get played!
OldAsiaHand
02-06-04, 03:45
Big L,
Whatever her background, you seem determined to try and make a go of the relationship with her. I will only caution you to take time and dig deeper before you take any drastic steps. I have been in Asia over 25 years and seen too many pros and the games they play. Do remember that she was cheating on her husband and another guy to be with you. The room in the village which you describe is common in China. Obviously, if she was on the game in Singapore, she does not come from a wealthy family. Have you ever seen the "house" she gave up?
One other bit of advice I would give you is to try and keep reading between the lines. Chinese women are not always as direct as we would like them to be.
Having said all that, I sincerely hope that you have found an exception to the rule and everything works out for you.
OAH
Big Looser
02-06-04, 09:49
OAH,
It's excited to hear your opinion on this and your comment had relate to a wonderful discovery 2 days ago between me and her. We both talk frequently on the phone everyday and we determined that our main problem with our individual thought differs in term of expression and being direct to what message she want to deliver to me. You were right and I acknowledge my thought. In fact she commented that I 'overly think of the relation'. She told me she's a small minded girl which will commit to the decision she'd made. I'm being doubtful and ask many question repetitively but in different form (to cause confusion), maybe she dislike this and comment that I still did not trust her for her sincerity.
During my present in her province, she brought me to her cousin's apartment. Her "house" that she gave up is just few floors away from her cousin's apartment. She brought me to see her apartment before visit her cousin. The house is still unoccupied, she and me request the security guard for the key to visit the house (in fact the house is still using her name, that is why she is still authorize to request for the key. Maybe her ex have not taken over the house completely). The house is brand new and unfurnished. We return the key back to the guard shortly thereafter.
Sincerely thank you for listening.
Traxx
02-08-04, 04:53
Big L
Your story isn't a new one. Every minute, a story like this is being played out in China alone. Of course the more cynical of our number would mention that 99% are scams that are aimed at relieving some dumb laowai of his cash, or at ditching their Chinese passport in favour of a foreign passport, or some smart laowai using their guile to get sex for nothing. But there is always that 1% that work out because both parties were sincere and truly in love.
What matters is not past but what you see and what you do not see. What you've related is shows a person that is observing everything carefully. However, your judgement is potentially clouded by emotion and I can only suggest you bring in a trusted third party to help you. It could be a private eye as several members here have suggested or perhaps a good friend whom you know won't mince his words and is very smart and observant.
Eventually, you'll have to make a decision and you should make it with your heart. And if you do decide to be with her, just remember this: nothing is 100% certain, you can only take a risk and find out. If the risk does not pay off, remember its what you expected. So minimize the aftermath. You're young (merely 27). Definitely prone to thinking with the little head.
Whatever choice you choose to make, best wishes.
Orientalovers
02-08-04, 09:21
Dear Big L,
After reading your private messages that you sent to me yesterday and read Traxx posting. I am more confident about your decision now. I am busy in Beijing and will fly to Xian at 6pm. I am sorry I cant reply to you personally, but Traxx's response and advise exactly reflecting what I would like to express to you. I will contact you via pm when I have free time in Xian.
True love is difficult to find, do exists.
Best regards, from your friend,
Octopussy.
Si Ma Yi
02-09-04, 05:30
Big L
Guess playing the hero in come-save-me-damsel-in-distress situation appeals to some. You knew the odds are against you making it. I can only applaud your "bravery" and hope for the best.
Big Looser
02-10-04, 08:17
Emma,
The knight and the princess is always a fairy-tale story we usually embrace when look for a gf. A teenage like me may simply think that the romance when a relation start and end always a full of colours, but what I can see also that the important of processes in the relation play a vital role. I'm grateful that I have help another girl out of this scam and we also learnt to live together. We had develop mutual respect and trust on that period of time.
From the eyes of the odds, generally they are right. I wouldn't want to comment on their view of my case, but they indeed provide me an insight to my decision made a week ago. Here I am, never regret.
Traxx,
I wouldn't say my story is a unique one but each have it's own determination. Getting closer to the only 1% of 99% eventually will get even harder after both married. Each stages lead to different level of determination and realization. You are right that I had realize so much that my judgement is clouded by emotion, needs and suffers. People and myself see so much changes in me (physically and attitude) after that period of time. I can now step backward and look something beyond myself and let my big head think. She's still far apart from me, leaving me more time to think and we only communicate over the phone daily. I can live without her now and spend more time thinking what I want out of my life. Then look back at the relation how they could work out together.
In fact, I'd speak to a private eyes (www.blackwhite.com.hk) personally and quoted me HK$18k to investigate her background, marriage status and spying her activities, which is costly to me. Rather than spending unnecessary, I would rather take the risk and learn my own way. That's what I can afford and I shall expect from the risk.
Octo,
Thanks pal for taking me to the next level and being supportive. I understand you are busy with travel, wouldn't mind at all waiting for your reply. Just like everyday awaits for response from potential employer in China. Safe journey pal, don't eat chicken! :)
Orientalovers
02-11-04, 04:41
Dear Big L,
Glad to know that a lot of members caring about you and ‘your problem’. Read your yesterday posting, I am applaud your thinking now. Don’t wasting your money, use your true heart to judge your future. As a Chinese proverb use to say “Look further beyond yourself, time cant rewind back for you to change”.
Nothing is 100% certain, if you only have 1% chance, think carefully before you leap.
My schedule in Beijing has been completed. I will accompany Wen-Wen return her Suzhou’s home and probably stay for two days. I will return home soon.
Best wishes for all of us.
Octopussy
P/s. You know my profession, I still eating chicken and Beijing’s duck very often. For sure, not raw. Hahahaha.
Orientalovers
02-13-04, 14:56
Big L,
I still in Beijing. Lately, the widespread of 'Bird Flu' in China make our team more busy and worry. Too many new cases and area affecting, make us feel more worry. I hope this time will not worst than SAR! Please have our fingers cross.
How're you getting on? Still worry about your job? How's your interview in China? I believe my return back to Malaysia maybe delay again. Sorry I don't know when I can have a break. Really like to have a chance to meet you and chat. Please take care yourself.
Did you read my 'Xiangshan' reports in Beijing's forum lately? Truely, I am the next guys fall in love to a Chinese beauty. I help her out of 'fire' and will accompnay her return her Suzhou's old home next week. With her consent, I do place my true and detail field report in the forum, try my best to let people know more about poor Chinese girls who indeed have emotion, pride and feeling of love, not only sell their body for money. Hope you can give me some comments and opinion.
Take care & keep in touch,
Big Looser
02-14-04, 12:17
Octo,
I'd spend 30 mins reading the entire report posted in Beijing forum. Truly an amazing experience and rewarding for inexperience cheongster like me. I'm so glad that you have "buddha heart" and care for girls who fall in similar trap like myself. I doesn't want to compare any similarity here but I truly respect and proud of your decision. But when your expression said about "marrying her", that may pose some doubts due to a short time pleasure you had with her. Don't misunderstand my statement, I am trying to bring you back to reality. Let's share some view via PM ok? :-)
I will have my finger cross for you to come back here safely. I'm still eager to meet you and please don't bring the "flu" as a souvenir to me ok? Haha, just kidding.
I won't worry so much of landing myself a job in China, I have different thoughts to share with you either. Let's PM when you are free. :-) I don't mind waiting, patient is virtue. =) Comments on your FR is on the way.
Take care bro, you are my admirer now. Will still be supportive to your decision made and share my view, anytime! Till then, watch out for the highly infection virus (H15N or something, forgotten).
Rayman
02-15-04, 06:09
Have to sympathise with some of the love-sick posters here.
I've been seeing a regular girl here for the past 12months and she is a real sweetie pie, kind, considerate and thoughtful. I have no designs on marrying her as I am already happily married but I tell you this some of these girls are just plain unlucky and fall into this line of work to survive not because of design. You might well be better off staying with one than marrying the grandiloquent vicar's daughter backhome.
You can all see her in the group photo I posted in the photo forum. She is in white.
Rayman
02-15-04, 10:14
And here she is. I should add that I have never done a Clinton with her....she is still has her cherry. She has refused up to 2000 rmb - had she accepted I would have run out....:-))
Brians29
02-15-04, 13:35
Big L,
I know you've heard some harsh comments about a working girl here from alot of guys but I thought I might add my 2 cents worth also.
First of all I am a firm believer that you can take a girl out a bar but you cant take a bar out of a girl.
From what you posted about her ex husband a few things come to mind.
First thing is he tells you she is dangoerous but he was trying to get her back.
Second thing is he wasnt man enough to grant the divorce without taking her house.
After hearing this I would question his character.
As for her in not sure I fully understood her siruation.
Things were so bad that she was willing to give up her house to leave him.To me this tells alot about how bad the relationship was.
She got a job and got screwed over at the job and sold her body for money.This I can understand somewhat.What choices do you think she had at the time?I dont know the job market where she was at and its not for me to decide if she really had another choice or not, its a question you have to come to terms with, not me.
When did she quit selling herself and did she stay away from it after she got back on her feet? To me that is the important question.If your not supporting her now and shes not doing it anymore to me that would be the issue to worry about.
If she quit because your suporting her I dont think she would do it anymore as long as you could maintain a lifestyle shes comfortable with.
I dont think many girls sell themselfs because they want to its they see no other choice. That is for you to decide if she had another choice or not.
You mentioned that she wasnt asking you for money. I really dought thats some kinda plot. I would make sure shes not selling herself anymore though.
I spoke with a lady on the internet in china tonight for a long time and she told me she had an American BF before. I asked her what her family thought about that and she told me that they were just concerned about the cultural differences between them
so I dont think its impossable to be excepted by her family as someone said.
Any relationship is a craps shot.Follow your heart,maybe this is the one for you, only one way to find out , just do your researce first and take your time.
Best of luck.
Brian
Big Looser
02-17-04, 09:40
Brian,
Thanks for voicing this out. Even though it's a bit difficult trying to follow the message you are trying to deliver, but I can understand few points addressed to me.
I just want to assure you that the girl is firm and mature enough to know and understand her position in the age of midst 30. If she had work in this field out of her life in the past few years, I do believe that your comment does make sense. But again, she was forced and cheated to work for only few months. She is lucky enough to get out from the field within 4 months and bailed out.
Being her ex-hubby, I understand the egoness and dis-satisfaction for being a man who is in 47 old, divorced one with a kid. He harmfully spread rumours to her family or cousins about her divorce is caused by me but never disclose his past story, trying to push all the sins to her. He did that couple of times even recently. I think I should logde a report of intrusive of human rights which may help since they both no longer together. If he care and really try to rescue the relation, why would he even consider to take the house and grant her wish? Isn't it too late to rescue after divorce? I can't figure out why he is doing this, tracking her where she is staying now, spread rumour to her relatives or do other annoying stuff.
At least now she move away from her province and look for a job in another province. She had been trying for the past 2 weeks and before she give up, she got an offered to work in factory. This I can verify later when I visit her in few months time. Supporting her financially is really not a huge some, it's like RMB500 per month and if this money can give her a comfortable life (she still have to pay rent and food), then I know I can be a king there. If she ever had thought of going back to this field, that is where I know your picture will fit in.
I guess I did my research pretty well even without the help of private eyes. Work with my instinct, rational and opinion from various people in different perspective gave me more confident to trust my believe in understanding her. We are out of the picture now, out of being so doubtful in this relation to another stage where we learn to trust and share common expectation from different background and culture. In fact, we intend to get married by May (considering I know her for 1 year already), and take her to a new country (for both of us) and start over again. She will attach to me via spouse program and I will get my PR in that country soon.
Well, that's my update. I guess it's kind of sick talking all over the story again. Now let's get some new thing started. Anyone care to share?
Orientalovers
02-18-04, 03:21
Hi Big L,
Me again. I am healthy enough to against the H5N1. Hahaha!!
I am very busy. Just place a short note here for you. Right now, I am staying in Suzhou for a short period with her. I do visit her hometown.
After reading your posting, one of your sentences in line ¡§We are out of the picture now, out of being so doubtful in this relation to another stage where we learn to trust and share common expectation from different background and culture.¡¨ What I should say to you is that you really know how to get some new thing start in more confident and trust. Wanna have my support?
Don¡¦t worry, I prefer ¡¥contribute¡¦ more care and love to her, not the way you think, although she is the most beautiful girl I ever meet in China. I do trust my judgement, I am not that old. ƒº
I have yet received your comments that you promise.
Octopussy.
Pimpster
03-25-04, 04:43
Big L
This is something I know about, I would have to say that she knew exactly what she was getting herself into when she left the country to become a hostess. Most people who get con into the sex trade are promise jobs working in factors or house keeping or something else. Women who work in hostess bars etc.. know what they are getting themselves into. Even in china, if you come from a good family you will never work as a hostess. etc... If I were you I would really think hard maybe hire a private eye to tail her for awhile and do some back ground checks. I know a guy who hired a ex pat to tail his "so call gf" in the philipines. I highly suggest you do the same thing. You have to ask yourself when she spent the 2 months with you did she take care of you, and your house or did she just bum around the house. When you visited her new house in china, was it well taken care of? Being asian you know how important these little things are as far as customs are concern.
Hope this helps
Steve Naive
04-15-04, 23:36
I've read somewhere about guys meeting amateur Chinese girls online, chatting them up on email for awhile, all in advance of their trip.
I'd like to try that. Can someone suggest how/where I might make a posting for girls who perhaps speak a bit of English and might want a friendly date to practice it, and maybe more?
My forthcoming trip includes places not as well covered by this forum like Wuhan and Hangzhou.
Norse Kaiser
04-16-04, 11:56
Steve:
From my understanding, you might want to try some online English magazines with classified ads, some of which even feature blind dates etc.
If that does not work out as it should, then online chatting like netease could be the solution.
Hopefully you can score with the girls, it could be quite easy sometimes.
NK
Wanabee
04-16-04, 23:20
I have a question for the old china hands out there.
A month or more ago I started chatting with a college girl who presented the "picture of innocence" online. Despite this (well there were a few cyber kisses), I arranged to meet her after I arrived for my 6 days in bj (she wanted to meet me at the airport).
Her english is great and she is quite sophisticated for a 20 year old. (I'm 55) We hugged on meeting as previously agreed and went out for the Forbidden City. There, she allowed me to put my arm around her, and seemed to enjoy it quite a bit. Upon return to my hotel, she came into my room, allowed me one kiss, but responded with "Come on..." when I tried for another. She was hesitant to leave but finally did. She called the next day wanting to go to the great wall; I told her I had business, but went that day with some other chat gal. The third day I agree to meet her, we went to the summer palace, bj duck and again were very huggy in public. Back at the hotel, I told her 1) she sending me mixed signals re: affection in public but not so much in private, and 2) I had a date with another gal that nite and in fact had been on a date the previous day. Add to this the fact that we were no longer on our "first date" and we were soon making out pretty good. With about 15 minutes to go til my next date was supposed to start, I had my finger well in her wet pussy. Got an indication that if I cancelled out on my date with the other gal, she would spend the nite. I took the deal. Spent most of the next 48 hours with her, eating and fucking her (she wouldnt suck me). I bought her a bathing suit and other shit to swim in in the hotel pool, and generally had some really great fun and great sex. She told me I was her first foreigner and let me take some headless nude photos of her but deleted all but 2.
She wanted to go to Shanghai with me but I was reluctant (thought I might do even better in sh). So she said that she'd go with a business man on a trip to Wuhan then. When I asked, she told me she didnt have sex with this guy - "too small and skinny". My last nite in bj she called and told me again I made love like a 35 year old, not a 45 year old (my deception). And, that she wanted phone sex between us and her roomates. That didnt come off very well but she moved into the dorm hallway continued to hint about Shanghai. I didnt take the bait.
I then struck out in Shanghai and tried to get her to join me on her way back from Wuhan (we had discussed this as a possibility). She said she couldnt because he'd already paid for her plane tix back to bj. By the way, she also perviously mentioned she had done the sightseeing tourguide thing with one of the business man's German associates, but I was different since this was personal.
Anyway she called and we talked on the phone several times before I left China, making plans about staying in touch til my next visit.
My question: What the f* is going on? Is she a) a semi pro, b) a coed looking for good times, food & sex, a little adventure and english practice, c) a nice looking 20 year old genuinely attracted to a 55 year old, or d)?
I'd love to think it was b) &/or c) but it sounds too good to be true. She never really hit me up for money other than taking me to nice restaurants and bars. She certainly didnt try to talk me out of spending 400rmb on swimming gear. On the other hand, despite my NY cynicism, I thought we genuinely hit it off pretty well and she liked being with me, including in public where she appeared undeterred to some pretty harsh stares at our walking embrace. Any insight would be much appreciated.
Jack Spratt
04-17-04, 04:33
Steve
Try here
http://www.thatsmagazines.com/classifieds/index.asp?sectionid=4&location=bj
as a start - a lot of guys have had success from this mag, but its always easier if you live here.
Good luck
jack
In China, nothing is ever as it seems
Loafer
04-18-04, 15:39
Wannabe:
I have been living in China for many years. Here is what I think:
I couldn't figure out what exactly it is that you are looking for. I have a feeling though that it is short-term romance including sex, without any strings attached. If that is the case, I would recommend to stay away from that girl. I have been playing this game for a long time, and I don't believe in freebies. Not in China. Unless you are really hard nosed, you are finally going to pay for it, financially, perhaps emotionally, and likely with a lot of trouble. My advice is to look for a working girl instead. Most of them are quite pleasant to be with, multiple-day deals are possible, and you have a clean-cut situation.
If you are serious, however, and look for a stable relationship with this girl, there are several crucial questions to answer: how much do you know about China and the Chinese, their culture and behaviour patterns? If the answer is "not much", I believe it is going to be difficult. Do you speak at least a little Chinese, even if her English is good? To me, the Chinese language is key for the understanding of their culture.
And, excuse me for being blunt, but the age difference in your case is very big. There are many young Chinese girls going with elderly foreigners, and in most cases the basis of these relationships is purely economic. If you can accept this, you may go ahead. The Chinese are very practical people, and she could make it appear as "the real thing" for quite some time, even if she doesn't love you. But if you are looking for love, the odds are against you. Why would she do this Wuhan trip? No sex with this guy because he is too skinny? He might have a fat wallet to change her mind.
My conclusion therefore is: move on. Play with the girls on the game. There are thousands of them, and enough of them do speak at least some English. But if you do look for a stable mate, think twice if it has to be a Chinese. If the answer still is yes, become serious in understanding her and her background. And probably go for a slightly older one.
BJK
04-18-04, 16:24
Wanabee
you left out
e) all of the above
In China there is ambiguity and contradiction everywhere.
Sometime we think of things being mutually exclusive when they are not.
However since you did not commit, option c will most likely never eventuate into true love even if it was possible in her thinking in the beginning.
loafer's advice seems sound.
BJK
Three I
04-18-04, 20:19
She sounds like a pro to me! She is trouble stay away and fuck other chicks! She is running a game on you and get out the game before it is too late.
BJK and loafer are right!
Wanabee
04-18-04, 21:01
BJK and Loafer,
Thanks much for your thoughts and opinions. They all make a lot of sense. BJK: your option "e) ALL of the above" WAS something I didn't consider. Loafer: "short-term romance including sex, without any strings attached" is a better description of my mindset than I was able to come up with; were you suggesting something similiar is possible with a working girl? If so, a referral or 2 might be helpful.
You guys supplied what I was asking for in my post (and am still very interested in hearing): other's (better informed) perspectives on her motives. This interest probably reveals SOME inappropritate emotionality. I am not mooning over her, but am realizing I would have enjoyed spending more time with her. (a bird in hand, hand in bush ;-) )
One important thing I left out of my original post is that I am now back in the US. She has asked me about timing a return, 1-2 week, business trip to coincide with her school summer break. I am considering this possibility. But would probably keep some other (including chat) irons in the fire for backup purposes.
My concern about working girls is more health related. Since I like to DATY I want to minimize risk. I assume a non pro chat girl would be a safer bet. The fact that the girl in question did not ask for money and originally presented as so innocent, was part of the attraction. Her youth was another.
Thanks again, hope to hear any further thoughts and opinions from you 2 and others.
Wanabee
04-18-04, 21:11
Three X,
Thanks. You figure she's a pro who plays it "soft sell"? She did hint about me buying her things like bathing gear but never asked for money. She didnt collect much else besides some nice meals this trip, especially considering the time she spent with me. You think she's playing a longer game plan?
Wannabe
Tinybobo1002
04-19-04, 01:53
Wannabee,
Good luck if you are interested in this girl. Being Chinese in background but having stayed in North America for over 20 years, the following is my 2 cents.
I have to travel to China a few times a year for business, and the same which happened to you had occurred to me as well, since me being an oversea chinese.
I don't think d is an option. You being 55 and me 5 years younger than you are, we are on the same boat that we are not attractive from a 20 year old perspective, nor are we physically as strong as a 35. Forget it; that's sugar coating.
I don't see any bj or sh native girls looking for free food or a 400 rmb swim suit. Those gals are able to afford these luxury items; no big deals to them, unless they are from poor country side.
I bet this girl has two things in her mind. First, she want a "ticket" out to the western world. Getting married to a yankee is the quickest and cheapest way. Fucking you (sorry, I don't mean that) is pennyless to her, and once both of you put the pants up, god knows whether you or she enjoys the sex more. If this theory is true, watch out. The minute she arrives at any of the three airports in new york, she will disappear.
The second scenario is having sex with a yankee is one of her means to know the outside world. She can tell her friends how big your dick is, like as big as a beer bottle, even if that's not the case. Or she can say yankee is not as rich as they may think, which can be the case as well. Anyhow, you have nothing to lose if you maintain a emotional distance from her.
The way she treated you is a manipulative behaviour, commonly found amongst Chinese girls, pros or not pros. She wants to control, dominate and dictate your time and activities in China. Watch out. Chinese women can be very manipulative. They are more sophisticated than north american women of the same age.
I agree with other opinions in this board. Stay away from non-pros; otherwise sooner or later you will have go pay big. I mean it. I was hooked once. The woman knew almost everything about me, because she knew how to log onto my laptop in my hotel-apartment. The short term romance almost cost my family.
From now on, I will pay and play. No more freebie, since there is no free lunch in the world.
Sorry for the long response.
Three I
04-20-04, 03:03
And just imagine Korean girls are worst!
Loafer
04-20-04, 03:09
Wanabee,
I believe that it won't be too hard to find what you need if you just hang out in the pubs and bars described elsewhere in this forum.
As regards health concerns: It is dangerous to believe that girls who appear non-pro are the safer bet. To me, any woman who agrees to have sex on a short-time and non-binding basis is a potential health hazard. She has probably done it a hundred times before. The very first sexual health issue I ever had in my life was related to a non-pro in China. A nice girl, looking clean and neat and modest, who, as I found out later, had fucked with all the superiors in her company before.
Stay safe!
James D 2004
04-20-04, 04:25
Asian girls are openly materialistic, to survive the high land price in Tokyo, Hong Kong, the poverty in Thailand, Philippines, just the same. China is worst because don't forget that they have the cultural revolution. Many of the parents of current generations are red guards, otherwise they saw it all. If you ever saw those people they are of a different breed. You boss controlling your whole life is another thing. Other than that the growth rate of China is phenomenal, from pretty much nothing to now the pillar of the world - if you take away the made in China stuff, you probably have no shoes or you kids don't have toys, I will miss my Italian 'designed' table. My advice is, if you have the choice, do any Asian girls but Chinese from China. Of course you can say this is stereotype. Of course it doesn't represent the majority or that many girls are like that. But with that huge population, all bets are off.
Wanabee
04-21-04, 06:36
You know, one other thing to say about freebies - the fun of the hunt, the thrill of the score. It feels good to win one round of the game. I am certainly not an expert, but I had a hell of a lot of fun playing the playboy in china for a week or so. maybe I got lucky, maybe I spent more money per f* than I would have with bbs girls, but for me it was a f*ing gas. No regrets, assuming no disease.
Lessons learned for a vacationer? Maybe schedule 2 dates per day, 2 dates per girl, so you don't have to fight the the stigma of the first date f* . day 1: Girl a ,then girl b ; day 2, girl c, then girl a (score?); day 3 girl d, then girl c (score?), etc. If you find the pot/chick at the end of the rainbow, move on if you fear freebie entaglements, if not, ride the wave if you are feeling lucky.
Night Cat
04-22-04, 08:17
There seem to be two camps in the discussions of freebies. One camp talks about the ease of finding many freebies in a short time, and the other talks about the associated hassles. It's as if there are at least two Chinas being discussed. My experience with "civilians" (not sure what else to call women who aren't sex workers) leans heavily toward the "hassle" camp.
Don't get me wrong, I've found more opportunity in Chengdu than in America, but for every story of an interesting score, there are 19 other stories of headaches, e.g., dates that go nowhere (even after 3, 4, or 5 dates), girls who can't be reached on their mobile, girls who bring their sister or friend on a date, girls who come to my home, even sleep there, but resist all action (even after an hour or two of encouragement), girls who blatantly insist up front that I should buy them gifts or take them shopping, and then there are the girls who try to get serious (e.g., talk about marriage and/or set terms of exclusivity) after knowing me only a few weeks. Maybe all of these hassles are normal, i.e., the ordinary hidden costs of dating, but I've grown tired of spending lots of time and effort with little or no result.
So why are there these two "camps" among those of you who have posted on this topic? I can only assume that the guys who find a lot of no-strings encounters or affairs do so by selling themselves as potential boyfriends, and I'm rather averse to that method. Also in my case, there's the fact that I mainly just enjoy the score and not so much the hunt. Mostly I hunt in the bars and discos, and my experience in Chengdu is that if I go, say, 10 times a month, maybe 3 times I'll find a for-money deal with a halfway decent looking girl, and maybe one actual freebie, that's in a good month.
I'd be interested to hear any opinions on the above, specifically, why are there these two "camps"? It would also be interesting to get more details from the high-scoring guys, like what is your actual success rate, and what kinds of things happen in the non-scoring scenarios? In other words, what are the hidden costs, what kinds of nonsense do you tend to encounter along the way? My own answers are as written above. Thanks in advance for any info or insights.
EDITOR's NOTE: This report was reformatted to remove extraneous word wraps.
BlnkNameCruiser
04-23-04, 05:14
Night Cat,
Every situation is different. I also think that based on where you hunt make sa difference in the type of girl you get.
Speaking for me, Lucky888, and Tapioca, we have all had our share of girls that are an easy 3-4 lays, and easy to push off. We also have had our share of girls who spazz out.
I know for a fact, that Lucky will not lie to them and tell them they have long term serious girlfriend potential. That is his particular style, and he has GREAT luck with freebies that are not too clingy and mostly always avaialable.
I have had mixed results based on how heavy I let it get.
We also have met chicks in a wide range of places. Ice cream shopss, restaurants, bars that are famous for easy chicks, bars that are not etc...
Everything really is a combination of your approach and what comes out of your mouth, your body language and facial expressions tell the girl a lot about their hopeful fututre with you.
blanknamecruiser
Boss
04-23-04, 06:56
Night Cat,
I'm really sorry to hear how hard it seems for you to latch on to some freebie fun.
I did a count of my total freebie action over my past two trips. Basically, I slept with 6 out of 9 girls I went out on a date with. Of those 6 girls, 4 slept with with me on the first date!
I don't speak much Chinese, so most(but not all) of the girls speak English, and they all knew I would be going home so there was not much likelihood of a relationship.
Maybe you should try other methods for meeting them. I've definitely had better luck with some methods than others.
Boss
John Siron
04-23-04, 08:51
I don't look for freebies. No matter who I meet, I always tell them I have a girlfriend or a wife. I don't have problems with girls walking away if they don't like that. I'd say that 80% of the girls that I meet just don't care that I am seeing someone already. They like that challenge!
If I meet a KTV girl I usually play it cool with them and slip in the conversation on the first meet that I have a longterm gf. They'll tell you that you are a bastard for coming out to play, but they'll like that! Talk dirty and get their hopes up that you'll take them out to shag, but don't. Get their number and start chatting with them on SMS or on the phone once and awhile. Keep talking dirty to them cause a lot of them like that, but won't admit it. After awhile, they'll want to see you and when you take them home, you got a freebie. I do the same thing with sauna girls except I do pay them to bang them the first time, and then I ask for their numbers.
If it's a normal girl, also tell them you have a gf already. This avoids the hassle of them calling you all the time. When they do call you, just tell them you are out of town on a business trip! You can then start talking to them about what they like in bed etc... get them hot and heavy, and then invite them over to watch DVDs.... :-)
I've had high success rates this way... lets hear what other guys have to say!
Mao Dun
04-23-04, 15:43
I'm a married newbie who thought going freebie was preferable at first to going professional. I met a 30 year old girl (I'm 39) on AFF and we were e-mailing about physical encounters before we met. It actually worked out fine, I got laid on the third date (probably could have on the 2nd but had not made the necessary arrangements), and she was amazing for me, and very very sweet.
But immediately I have become scared of consequences. All she talks about is me getting a divorce and marrying her--her tone indicates that she knows that's not where my head is at, but it certainly is where hers is. I'm trying to break it off with her, but at the same time I really like her. I'm not going to be having sex with her anymore (biting my knuckle as I say that, god she was good!), but I don't want to lose touch with her. She has a really sh*tty life and I wish I could do something to improve it, but I'm not ready to change my own family situation.
I think much of this counts as "hassles," but at the same time, other than talking a lot wistfully about marrying me, she has given me no reason to get skittish (cross fingers), and she's really nice as far as I can tell. And judging from what the experienced gents here have been saying, looking for freebies can be rewarding enough to be worth trying.
Although I must say, when I'm able to pull out of this one (or before), I'm heading for Maggies for something more clear cut.
Wanabee
04-24-04, 02:53
Boss and anyone else,
Care to share some of your more successful tactics with freebies? The only one I really tried was chatting them up (online) for several weeks prior to my visit. Agreeing to in one case, hinting in others (about sex) during the chat sessions.
I went 2 for 4. Much much better than I do back here in the states with whatever way I try. I got some waitresses mobile numbers, but never followed up.
BlnkNameCruiser
04-24-04, 15:15
Wannabe
I usually dont get all that quick reply from Freebies. I usually meet them several times with NO action. This gets them comfortable enough to come over to your house late. Also if they like you and you have not pulled any moves, I think they find you very attractive. Then you can get tired, fall asleep on top of your bed, not under covers, and eventually that night you complete the deed. Then after that they are open and willing to come over for sex.
Tapioca has hooked up in as quick as 2 hours with a chick he met online but I never did.
I did meet one chick who mysteriously popped up on my Yahoo messenger, we chat for 20 minutes, and she agreed to meet me at night, even though she is married. That may pay off pretty fast.
blanknamecruiser
Spike
04-24-04, 19:02
I have a question if anyone would care to assist me.
I have been corresponding with a gal from Nanning that I met online. I will be in China this summer and want to meet her. In between some serious bouts of mongering (I worship Chinese women) I want to meet her.
She says she is a "hair stylist". Is that the same as working in a barbershop? Is there a any difference? Any info would be appreciated, maybe some questions I could ask that would give me an indication. For instance, is there any particular district that would indicate what type of establishment she is working in? I am very curious, but I don't want to ask her something that she might take offense at. The input I get will help determine my approach when I meet her.
Thanks.
Spike, out.....
Wanabee
04-25-04, 00:03
BlnkNameCruiser, etc,
Thanks for your notes on freebies. Very timely for me.
I just got back from a lunch with a pretty cute, married, (4 years in the US) szchuan 28 year old here in california.
I started talking to her in a starbucks here last weekend. Asked her about helping me line up a tutor or language partner to help me with my chinese. I gave her my tel # and email so she could let me know, and then she volunteered hers. I followed up with an email telling her how young and impressive she was. She replied saying she talked to her husband and he wanted to be my language partner (she does not wear a ring). She also made enthusiastic note of my telling her she was young and impressive.
Despite my initial impulse, I ignored the husband remark and replied with a few more compliments and asked her to lunch. She said sure. She said the restaurant I suggested would make for a "good ADVENTURE". The ADVENTURE comment got my hopes up pretty high.
But the lunch was not the stepping stone to the tryst at the local motel I fantasized about. Rather, a friendly, if a little too polite, lunch. I refused her offer to help pay for lunch and then when I asked if she would like to get together again she said yes but it will be her turn to buy. (FWIW, during the course of the lunch she also said she would have more free time in June and that she likes to get out of town but doesnt like to be the driver)
Well, I was about to write her off when I read BlnkNameCruiser's remarks about freebies usually taking a while. And then I remembered a bj experience where after the first date I was sure I would never get anywhere (but scored the next date).
Anyway, I once again am seeking to benefit from your collective experience with chinese women. Is this worth pursuing? If so, should I adjust my tactics. Limit or keep pressing with email, bump into again at the coffee shop, set up another, quicker, lunch? I look foward to your opinions and advice.
Thanks
Genuis8
04-25-04, 05:54
Spike,
A Hair Stylist means she can cut your hair and style it (blow dry, perm, color, etc). Whether she can do facial is another question. It seems she is talking about the legit skills, and not the mongering kind. She is most likely working in a Beauty Salon, and not a "barbershop".
Thirty Mins
04-25-04, 12:12
Guys,
On the freebie vs. professional topic, the whole reason I got into the hobby was because freebies were too much of a hassle.
Instead of having two phone numbers and a couple of names, you can have one fake name, and have no need to give out your number. Plus the pros go away, don't try to get pregneant with your baby, and don't threaten to kill themselves when you don't respond to an SMS within 5 minutes.
Then again, freebies are free, and can be young and pretty if you look in the right places.
Getting into a Chinese girl's pants is never a problem, it's getting out of the presumed engagement that goes along with sex.
Spike
04-25-04, 21:27
Genius,
Thanks, I appreciate that. I think the feedback I'm getting is leading me to that same conclusion.
Spike, out...
BlnkNameCruiser
04-26-04, 02:14
Wannabe,
What do you have to lose to continue to hang out with her?
- If nothing but a little free time, then keep going.
I met a girl who flat out told me she wanted a boyfriend on the side and did not want to divoirce her husband.
blanknamecruiser
BlnkNameCruiser
04-26-04, 02:18
Thirty Mins,
You are right to a point. Some chicks will pull maeuvers. I have met one that goes crazy with 3 million sms's and phone calls so bad I changed the phone number which was printed on my business card, and made a rule to NEVER give out my business phone to a girl. Now I have a monger phone dedicated to the game.
I passed her on to Lucky888 (with adequate warning) and she is doing it to him, but he is dealing with her well, and firmly managing it.
For the most part, Tapioca seems to be the master of the freebie. He gets girls for about 3-4 shots, and pushes them off in a smooth way that they remain friends. Only one girl we nicknamed "The Cat" which would never leave his house and he worried about feeding "the cat" when he was gone.
My recent string of freebies has been relatively uneventful. I have had a good 6-8 recently and so far minimal drama.
I seem to go in phases of my preferences. I think whatever you do you have to think about how to get out of it before going into it.
blanknamecruiser
Clandestine782
04-26-04, 04:00
Here is a good question:
I went to the KTV bar with my roommate (who may have the lowest IQ in all of China), and he negotiated to get a hooker. The front desk had to go out and get a condom, because the girl didn't have any in her purse. Nor were there any with any of the other girls. He stayed in for three hours and used no rubber when it was all said and done. She told him that it was his choice whether or not to use one.
I would like to know:
1. How many of you guys find that the hookers don't require you to wear condoms?
2. How many have actually gone bareback many times and found out that you were OK?
3. When I mentioned to a doctor about going to condoms she said (in Chinese) "Be careful of AIDS." I'm assuming that she said this because she saw so many cases of it in her job. Another Chinese person said (when I told him that I went to KTVs): "Oh, aren't you afraid of diseases?" Could there be an epidemic of HIV in hookers that no one has started to figure out yet?
I appreciate any PMs that you could give me with your experience with Chinese hookers and STDs/ HIV/ Bareback.
Macauman
04-26-04, 05:49
Clandestine,
Even if China was not on the verge of a serious HIV epidemic - which it is - your friend took a huge chance of contracting any of the varieties of hepatitis that are floating around out there. I recently read in the respected The Economist magazine that the hepatitis infection rate in China is 50-60 times higher than in the US and most Western countries. Barebacking with Chinese pros is sheer idiocy, plain and simple.
BlnkNameCruiser
04-26-04, 16:36
Clandestine,
1. Touching the skin of your cock to the skin of some girls vagina does not instantly get you a disease even if she has it.
2. Dozens of variables make a difference in how contractable some disease is at that particular moment.
3. We all have done that kind of dumb thing here and there. Maybe he is dumber than usual, but we all slip up.
4. Bottom line is that the safest way to play, is use a condom, and go DATY. At least you can get a visual, and touch and scent test. If you wont stick your toungue in it, you shouldnt stick your cock in it.
My pal just contracted something from "the factory" becuase one chick allowed him to go bareback. I honestly dont think she normally does that, but they had a chemistry for a while. He had to go to get a 2 hour IV for 4 days in a row.
Yes the Hep rate is something crazy like 30-35% of population. That is well known.
HIV in Henan province is about 60%. Any girls from there under the age of 25 should be avoided all together.
blanknamecruiser
Three I
04-26-04, 18:07
When I go to a cAMP or incall in the U.S. (California) I alway ask the girls where they are from in China if the say Henan or Yunan province I only get a massage from them. Also the Guanxi girl are nasty too!
Feiji
04-27-04, 02:10
Blanknamecruiser,
I have a question about the friend you mentioned who had the 4 days of IV antibiotics. I have lived in Beijing for many years and like most wsg readers have shagged my share. I am extremely careful about going bareback. Any hint of smell, rash, or that crusty white stuff, and I wear a raincoat. Recently, I have read some stuff online about chlymadia in China and how it is often undetectable. Fearing Ijust may have it, (or perhaps just for peace of mind) i took the recommended 1 gram dosage of pfizer azithromicyn. My question is why would your friend need an IV drip? Did he have something serious? There are also pills for gonorrea?
Thanks
Night Cat
04-27-04, 07:51
Thanks to all for the comments on freebies. It's interesting to know different people's mixtures of successes and hassles. Perhaps my luck isn't as bad as I thought. In my first year I've managed to get hassle-free first-date sex a few times from AFF, a few one-night stands and semi-regular freebies from the disco, and a few other scores elsewhere. This is far more than I could ever find in the U.S., but I gripe a bit because I'm greedy, I want to find the above more often and with fewer dead-ends (multiple dates that lead nowhere, etc.). The fact that I'm not willing to invest much time and effort in "dating" probably limits my options considerably. Where I have good luck, especially recently in Shanghai, is for-money GFEs, I think I've found some of the best. Perhaps because it's clear that there are no lasting expectations, I'm more likely to relate to them more comfortably and even give THEM a good "BFE" (boyfriend experience), moreso than I would give a "civilian". More discussion on the Chengdu board ('cause that's where I am now).
Regarding STDs, I've found that a lot of Chinese think that you don't need to use a condom with a boyfriend/girlfriend, while condoms are standard in for-money deals. However, this is highly variable, at least judging by the stories on this forum. Other than with my ex in the U.S., I've used a condom every time in my life. The only STD I ever got was molluscum, fairly benign, solved by having the doctor snip off or freeze off the pimples. This was from a British hooker in Berkeley who rode my shaft before penetration. I don't let gals do that anymore.
Black Jack
04-27-04, 17:54
Hey Guys,
I rarely frequent this section of the forum. Quite interesting in terms of topics.
Regarding stds and Hiv, does anyone know of any clinics designed especially for doing testing of stds/hiv in Shanghai? I rarely go bareback with pros, but I do love them bbbj. Even though bbbj carries much lower risk for hiv infection, it still leaves you vulnerable to lots of other nasty things.
Back home I used to check myself every so often just to comfort myself, so it definitely would be nice to be able to do that.
Thanks in advance!
BJ
BlnkNameCruiser
05-03-04, 15:41
Black Jack
there is a STD hospital. Cheap and fast to get stuff checked. I will check the name and get back to you.
blanknamecruiser
BlnkNameCruiser
05-03-04, 15:43
Feiji,
The Dr told him is was common to get even from contaminated underwear or gym towels. He didnt know the english name of it.
blanknamecruiser
Angel Eyes
05-03-04, 15:53
My 2 Fens,
Freebies that seem to go no where: I met a girl once, and got a very bad feeling from the start. Not about the girl, but about the chances to get her in the sack. I met her a few times despite this, in which at first I was really sure that I was wrong. There wasn't a small chance - there was no chance! She carried on, when questioned, about how she's very traditional and would never do such a thing before marrige.
However, after a few dates she suddenly said on the phone that she didn't say she would never do anything with me, and then, next date was in my place for some DVD watching, which ended in bed. I do believe she was a virgin. Oh, forgot to mention, she was over thirty!
So, there's always a chance. I don't even know why I kept talking to her, I was sure nothing would come out of it.
But, a word to the wise - she talked about getting married very soon. The whole affair took less than two weeks. Scary.
About STDs, I never went bareback with a pro, and I'm not going to. Despite this, I managed to catch 2 diseases from 1 girl whom I had exactly 2 FS with (night and the day after). Be careful!
Ferolga777
05-03-04, 17:37
Angel Eyes,
YOU SAID:
Despite this, I managed to catch 2 diseases from 1 girl whom I had exactly 2 FS with (night and the day after).
QUESTION:
Were you wearing a condom or barebacking her? I ask because I'm always wondering if the condom will be enough protection.
Ferolga
Black Jack
05-03-04, 22:43
Blankie,
That would be great if you can find me the name and address of the clinic. Just a little less to need to worry about.
Thanks!
BJ
Wanabee
05-05-04, 03:21
Reality Check,
Just had lunch with a seemingly nice guy here in California. He goes to China often and of course the subject turned quickly to women. I (proudly) mentioned that I batted 500 in scoring with chat friends (college students) whom i actually met up with on my recent trip. He listened politely and then implied he did even better just hangin out at Tienanmen Square. Now this guy is probably even older than me (55)! He said college girls would invariably approach him within 30 minutes, say they wanted to practice their english, he'd take them to eat and then at least half of them went with him to his hotel and fucked.
He seemed like a fairly honest guy, but I'm pretty gullible. Do you guys buy his story. Does this seem likely to you? Would appreciate your opinion.
Thanks
Tinybobo1002
05-05-04, 19:54
Wanabee,
The story is too good to be true. It is both easy and difficult to start a relationship with a Chinese woman. Chat rooms are usually the best. After chatting, emailing and talking on the phone over a short period of time, within a week or two, a date will occur. At the end after a short drink or a brief dinner, of course we go to bed. That's the easy way: I do it and alot of others do it as well.
The difficult part is picking up a non-pro on the street. I doubt it if it is possible to pick someone up at Tienanmen Square. Don't go near it if you are not a tourist. There are lots of secret police out there. In China, we don't do two things at Tienanmen Square or in the public: politics and sex. Your friend has to take very high risk for his behaviour.
Girls in the North are relatively more conservative than those in the south. If you have any plan to go to Shen Zhen and want to try some freebies, try the English chat room at chat.szptt.net.cn. I have scored high from this single source.
Last word of warning: Freebies are not free. If you are not smart enough, they will cost you big.
Angel Eyes
05-06-04, 02:13
Black Jack,
I meant exactly what I said. "Despite this" means despite the fact I've always used a condom.
Both of those diseases were the kind which a condom can not stop. They are STDs because they are transferred via sexual intercourse, but, the thing is, I got them because my crotch touched her groin. They were not dangerous ones, just pretty annoying, and easy to get rid of but it took about two weeks for each disease (one, I guess, nested for a longer time, so I didn't get them both at the same time).
Wanabee
05-08-04, 02:18
Tatyu,
Thanks for your informed opinion. 2 questions:
1) Would the secret police really interfer if they thought a couple would go somewhere for freebie sex? (was I stupid to walk around the sites with my arm around a college girl?) and
2) I couldn't find an English or Yingwen button at chat.szptt.net.cn; how do you get to the english chat area? Thanks much.
BlnkNameCruiser
05-08-04, 10:04
Wannabe and Tatyu,
It is very possible to pick up non pro's off the street.
My friend who recently moved here to China picks up most of his freebies in 2 ways:
Walking around stores and streets. He simply approaches a cute girl and says something totally outrageous, like "Hello, I love you!", or "Hi, You're Cute! Wow... Comeback here! I love your chubby belly!"
He has nabbed girls from Watsons, random streets... etc. He usually gets them home and having sex within a few hours or worst case a day later.
He of course strikes out a lot, but his investment in strike outs is very low.
Also he sits at starbucks and gets in conversations with girls. He has a pretty good success rate.
blanknamecruiser
OldAsiaHand
05-09-04, 06:50
Gentlemen,
On the subject of freebies, I do not have the same success rate that I often read about on the China threads. First of all, I have a family so I don't have much time to invest in romancing them, nor can I be very open with my cell phone #, etc. Secondly, the freebies I have managed to nail, have been in their mid-thirties (I am 50) and not very attractive when compared with the 18-25 range of pros that I pay for. Frankly, I prefer the young, hard, tight, sexy bodies.
Just my POV.
OAH
DayNight
05-09-04, 08:05
I had a look at http://chat.szptt.net.cn/. Looks like #9 is the English forum.
I guess you need to register first here: http://market.szptt.net.cn/members/register_form.jsp
The fields are:
User:
?: (I dunno this one)
Password:
Confirms the password:
Prompt question:
Answer:
Email:
Real name:
Sex:
Birth year/month of/day:
Area:
I used Babelfish to translate it. It would wuite good for simple Chinese. http://world.altavista.com
BTW, this STD despite condom issue worries me a bit....
Update: I think #2 means you have to retype your ID. Anyway, I managed to sign up in 3 seconds. The #9 english chat board is VERY active.
Clandestine782
05-14-04, 09:15
Are there any regions of the country in China where these girls are a bit more friendly with black men than others? I was thinking about going to Sichuan or Chongqing. Or maybe even back to Fujian Province, since it seems like the fish are not biting around here.
I was speaking to one black guy at the bar, and he said that every man in this city (Jinan) had at least two girls that he could call at any time for sex. I don't know if I am just in the wrong place or what.
BlnkNameCruiser
05-14-04, 10:46
Clandestine
where are you? also in Jinan?
blanknamecruiser
Clandestine782
05-14-04, 15:13
The very place.
Tinybobo1002
06-02-04, 14:42
Regarding Day and Night's web address chat.szptt.net.cn. I tried that for about a year. In a nutshell, it is like an "all you can eat buffet", if you are interested in freebies or non-pros.
BlnkNameCruiser
06-05-04, 15:07
Been thinking about what the motivation is of these BB shop girls who I have been getting free after paying them for a while.
I dont think they are expecting me to marry them (although one has asked me)
Maybe they are doing what we are all doing. Using a shallow substitute for some intimacy even if they know it is short lived.
ok, ok dont mean to get philosophical... just curious sometimes what is in their minds.
blanknamecruiser
DayNight
06-05-04, 15:31
I guess sex is just fun with the right person. They need sex too and probably even like a no-strings-attached relationship.
I have to vote with OAH, you are our hero! Keep the stories coming!
BTW, does you sister act do girls on girls stuff? Would make nice watching during hardening times.
BlnkNameCruiser
06-07-04, 03:13
DayNight,
They started to goof around one time with each other but didnt get far. I could tell I wouldnt have been able to get them to do it.
I have done that before with a freebie of mine and my friends Japanese girl friend. They were both at my house and we all started having sex in the same room on my bed and we managed to get the girls to TOTALLY go at it together. That was absolutely one of the coolest things I ever saw.
blanknamecruiser
Clandestine782
06-07-04, 11:51
Let's talk about some real issues that happen with these relationships.
1. How many of you have ever met a girl and spent the time to talk her panties off, only to find that after having sex ONE time, she reneges and says that she wants to be a traditional girl? This has happened to my roommate about three times and me once.
2. Is there some huge dichotomy between nice girl and bar girls? It seems like girls in the bar are there to either pricktease everyone or have already fucked everyone in the bar. University girls need the Jaws of life to get their legs open.
3. Do most of the foreign men in these places lie? One guy says to me: Every man in this city has at least two women that he can call at any time for sex. And some of these women want to get fucked in such a way that they're cracked in two. But then, in another conversation the same man says that the dating scene here is like telemarketing. If you talk to 100 people, 2 or 3 will be interested.
4. The women are overall just flaky. For instance, I got the number of one woman after I made sure that she didn't have a boyfriend. I called her later and had a friend translate, and she said that she only gave me her number because she was a good natured person and that she really hated me. And if I was only interested in dating her, she didn't want to see me again. What the fuck? Or, you get numbers from women, and they have *no clue* that you might want to see their vagina. They think that you want to give them a free English lesson.
Just now, I'm in the North of China (Shandong). I think that I want to move to the South if the fish are more likely to be biting there.
BlnkNameCruiser
06-07-04, 18:49
Clandestine782,
To be honest I have better freebie luck in Beijing. I find the north girls much more friendly than the seemingly spoiled princess Shanghai girls.
I still like life and the city of Shanghai better, and I am doing well enough here, but I am sure Tapioca can attest, Beijing girls are more friendly, and open to get laid sooner rather than later, and because they like you rather than they saw the size of your bank roll.
Tapioca always had the ability to round up 6 girls in 30 minutes when he and I would hang out up there. It was surely not because of his bankroll because they all knew he was jobless.
When it comes to the hard to get girls, I can usually sense it pretty quick. You really need to use your intuition and you can usually minimize your wasted time.
just my thoughts.
blanknamecruiser
Kunshan
06-08-04, 09:02
Normally its easier to get girls out of BJ or SH into the bed, especially if you are foreign. SH girls, like HK girls are often heartless and will leave you with a hard on, unlike the Northern girls who see you need some help and,,,
But its more often the case of screening the individual girls and eliminating the gold/passport/English diggers ASAP.
One market segment that I am bullish on is the late 20's divorcee.
BlnkNameCruiser, a mate in SH told me that SH girls are crazy about giving BJ thesedays, like a sexual trend,,any comments?
Angel Eyes
06-08-04, 12:02
Clandestine782,
1. Never happened to me, although I think I can see how something like that would happen.
2. "University girls need the Jaws of life to get their legs open". I don't agree with that. Had a very "traditional" girl open up on the third date, after I though all hope was gone, and I just wanted to meet her for the company. Just goes to show that persistance has it's prizes.
3. I have no idea about this. however, I think sometimes you might need to lie a little to the girls. I gather that most of them wouldn't like to know you have another 2 waiting for your call.
4. Some of them *are* really naive. But then, I like that about them. Sorry to hear about that strange experience you had. So far, all the girls who gave me their phone number, at least liked me.
Blankie, what you said about Beijing sounds good to me. Especially when I think about how the girls would run away when they see my income numbers.
Tinybobo1002
06-08-04, 21:06
Clanderstine,
The following is my 2 cents. You are right. It is like telemarketing or selling life policies. You approached 100 and the chance is you will get maybe 2 customers. Do the same with freebies. Don't expect every girl you talk to for 30 minutes will go to bed with you. That's not realistic. So, freebies are not free in term of time. They are more expensive if I invest my time some where else. What I like is the process and the girlfriend feel. Somebody talked about the divorce in modern China, which makes sense to contribute to the scene of non-pros. Keep hunting.
Nomadic
06-14-04, 12:25
I picked up a tall 28 yrs old Shanghainese beauty at Starbucks... I dated her twice and on the second date, I got her in my room on my bed and started to eat her raw.
She was very receptive, moaning and shaking while I was starting to undress her. I was surprised to be able to reach in her pants after knowing her only for 2 days, so I continued. She reached in my pants a few times too, which I thought was a great sign. When I started to pull her panties down, she told me she was virgin.
What a shock.... virgin at 28? Such a beautiful girl? So traditional in Shanghai? We cuddled and she left an hour later. I had extreme blue ball pain that I had to take care of at Mandang lu factory.
The question is: if she is still virgin at 28, lots of guys probably tried and failed. If I try and succeed (you never know...), will that ruin her life? (I have no plans of getting married... too many fishes in this pond)
Other question: is that a trick to get commitment from me?
Any advice from Shanghainese girl experts welcome.
For now, I have to figure out how to get her to BJ me...
Cheers
Faguo.
OldAsiaHand
06-18-04, 14:16
Gentlemen,
Is it just me or do you all have similar experiences with pros in China trashing the bathroom and/or spitting on the floor or in the trash can during a BJ? Could it be linked to the price I am paying or the class of the girl? Seems to happen very often unless I set the rules in advance when she first comes into the room.
OAH
Gaolei
06-18-04, 16:27
It is very traditional to hold onto virginty until marriage in China. A respectable husband would expect it. I think, that without virginity, a womany would have a hard time finding a good husband that would be acceptable to her family.
I know a woman who is 38 and still a virgin, and not about to give it up for a one nighter. She is good looking, but never married. It would be shameful to loose her virginity to a man who is not her husband. This is the old way of thinking in China, as it was in the US many years ago.
Wicked SH
06-19-04, 01:57
oah everytime i have gone out even for a foot massage they have done something like spit on the floor. one time during fs massage the girl came in pretty young and hot, she took off her clothes and started to remove my towl then she jumped up ran to the trash can, urinated for what seemed like 5 min then tied the bag, ran out threw it away and came back to finish the job. needless to say i requested a new - clean fresh girl.
wicked in shanghai
Spidey
06-19-04, 06:50
i was with a girl, who was a virgin at 40. or 41. and finally getting married ( not with me, thank god!) she was a nice friend, and bj me almost every night, but no pussy. she love 69ing, and getting her pussy eaten.
personally, i didn't want to do it (she wanted to give it to me to trap me, but i refused. willpower, guys!). i think she would be hard to shake, if i de-virginize her. i choose not to. she was okay, but i didn't like her that much. she was a good friend to me. got her hot most of the nights, or she made the move when i was sleeping. i was like getting [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), at time, lol. i was fun twice, or three times a night. she loves to suck cock though! takes a lot of cum on her face, yaaaah!
Spidey
06-19-04, 16:38
Most of the girls from the countryside (All the 3 world countries) will do something like this. It is natural to them, unless they are taught not to do this in the big cities. Manner is the last thing on their mind. Eating, and making money is this order.
In a business establishment, it is bad business to do something like this. I am sure a low end MP, may have this problem.
BlnkNameCruiser
06-25-04, 17:08
Faguoren,
My advice, and I am SURE the advice of Lucky888, DONT DO HER.
We were both passing around this Filipina (without her knowledge) and she aint even a virgin. Even though she TOTALLY tossed herself into bed with us, she became a complete insane lunatic that we arent hanging around.
I would avoid that 28 y/o at all costs.
blanknamecruiser
Wicked SH
06-27-04, 17:19
Every Filipina I have ever known has been a lunatic. They were all in SF bay area in the US but were a complete and utter insane mess.
Joeyt
06-29-04, 08:01
Just reading through... so, adding my thoughts to this forum...
i have been so far surprised at the "openness" of the women here... on the surface, most appear to be extremely conservative in nature... as it's still fairly taboo to discuss matters of a sexual nature openly... so, sexually they are a little repressed... but also make them being very open to try new things! I think some of the main reasons why they are this way...
1. Most are still living with their parents until at least mid to late 20s... they don't get much privacy and freedom to have sexual encounters.
2. I read an article recently that more and more teenagers are starting to have active sex lifes much earlier... but the current generation overall (the 20+) is still pretty sheltered.
3. Due to the one child policy... there's tremendous pressure for the family's only son or daughter to get married as quickly as possible... especially the daughters. So, often they marry the first decent guy who comes along... not necessarily out of love... but to appease the parents.
4. Most of the local men (no intent to offend any of the local chinese mongers in this forum!), whether married or in a relationship almost all have either a mistress or play away in one form or another (KTVs, saunas, bars).
Anyway, i am sure there are lots more reasons...
However, since i have been in china i have had more partners than i could have imagined... married, engaged, single, with boyfriends...
The last time i was in Shanghai and went out with a friend... she brought along a couple of her friends. One was a lady, soon to be married. The other was a guy, got a steady longterm girlfriend. Anyway, by the end of the evening... the 2 of them could barely keep their hands off each other... and eventually they left together. I was amazed! whilst my friend was totally non-plussed about it. She then told me an interesting ethos that most locals seemingly abide by... loosely translated... "If you are not married, then you are single and anything goes".
Happy hunting!
Miclac
07-01-04, 02:14
I wanted to comment on the Chinese girl "virgin" bullshit. I was seeing a 19 year old girl in Nanjing. I met her on yahoo and saw her when I went to Nanjing. She came to my hotel and she let me eat her out. At first, she said bj was out of the question because it was dirty. With a little coaxing she did it and even swallowed my cum. She also let me fuck her in the ass but would not let me fuck her pussy. She says she wants to be a virgin for the guy she marries. In my book she is not even close to a virgin anymore but in her mind she is still pure because she didnt give up the pussy.
Yellow Fever #2
07-01-04, 14:12
My girlfriend of nearly 2 years wants to get married. She is Chinese, I am from Canada.
What are the advantages and disadvantages of getting married in:
China?
Hong Kong?
Canada?
any where else?
Please help, this is an urgent matter. She is driving me crazy!
I think the simplest is China - we can get married very easily and quickly. A divorce can also be easy and quick.
If we get married in Hong Kong - is it difficult to divorce if it does not work out? Can we divorce in China with a Hong Kong marriage?
I like to think we have a good and happy future but I am not compeltely confident.
Please help.
Angel Eyes
07-02-04, 01:24
I knew a 30+ year old girl who was a virgin. I was sure it was hopeless by the way she talked. A real Chinese conservative.
But she isn't anymore, and although it felt like forever, looking back I see it was actually not a long time, from meeting her to making sure she won't marry as a virgin.
Now, it might be my over powering sex appeal (kidding), or something else, but she didn't bullshit me, or at least, she believed every word she said. And I did, too. Up to the moment I suddenly realized I'm taking her to bed.
St Germain
07-02-04, 04:10
Yellow Fever,
Here's my 2 cents on your marriage question.
I am American. 4 years ago I married my Chinese girlfriend. We had been in a relationship for 3 years before that.
Since I was working in HK at the time (she was living in Guangzhou) we registered the marriage in HK. The process was simple and took about 4 weeks or so from the time we turned in the application to the actual 5-minute ceremony. However, I think at least one of the parties has to be a HK resident in order to get married in HK (I was a resident at the time).
Unfortunately, the marriage has not worked out. We have been separated for 9 months now, and divorce is just a matter of time.
If you eventually find your marriage isn't working, then whether not it will be easy for you to get a divorce will depend mainly on whether the divorce is contested or not. My divorce is likely to be contested and messy (unless by some miracle she changes her mind and decides NOT to try to take me to the cleaners...yeah right).
So if you eventually want to get out of the marriage, I think you should just assume that she will contest the divorce. Never assume it will be "quick and easy".
Based on my own inquiries, it appears that if you register the marriage in HK, it is possible to get a divorce in either HK or China.
To get the divorce in HK, one of the parties must be a HK resident or at least be able to show "a significant connection to HK" (e.g. employment by a HK company, frequent trips to HK, etc.). If she contests the divorce, then you have to clock 2 years of separation before you can file for divorce and then look forward to a long court process (at least several months probably--I'm not at that stage yet).
Getting the divorce in China is easy if both sides agree. But don't fall into that wishful thinking trap. If she contests, then my understanding from a Chinese lawyer as to the way it usually works is this: The first time you file for contested divorce, the application works its way through the system for about 6 months, after which the result is usually that the divorce is NOT approved. So then you appeal and file again. After another 6 months or so, the divorce is usually approved. That's apparently the way it works in most cases, but of course in China lots of factors add to the unpredictability of the outcome, e.g. her family connections, the judge's venality, etc. For a foreigner, I would think divorce outside China is likely to be cleaner.
Finally, as someone who has been there and is now on the road back to blissful singledom, I think that, instead of worrying about where to get married, a far more important question you should ask is whether or not you are ready to get married. You implied that your girlfriend is pushing you to get married. My gf did that too, and stupidly I agreed before I was ready. It was the biggest mistake of my life. Now I am staring in the face of an expensive and messy divorce.
Get married ONLY when you are 100% ready to do so, not before that, no matter what she says.
And if you finally decide to go ahead with it, at least get an enforceable prenup. Insist on it, no matter how much she kicks and screams about it. If she really loves you then she'll get over it, and you will be glad you did.
Good luck to you.
Count
Travel Dog
07-02-04, 06:12
Yellow,
If you must do it, China is better because the laws favor the man. Divorce is much easier and the custody of any children favors the man also.
Dick Johnson
07-02-04, 07:52
Opinions and advice for mainland Chinese women:
-Do not pluck all our eyebrows and paint a fake one in. It looks fake and when you wash it off I feel like I'm f*cking a ghost at nite.
Keep them more natural.
-Do not use diet drugs. You girls are usually naturally thin and even if not, being a bit voluptous aint bad. Use diet drugs once and you will find yourself with a layer of fat that's impossible to lose.
-Date selectively. Chose foreign guys, or overseas Chinese, or local hardworking or educated guys. Stay away from those good for nothing no money local playboys/wanna be ganstas.
Wicked SH
07-02-04, 08:01
I wonder if any mainland chinese girls are even going to read this section? ;-) To see your excelent advise.
Robert Lee
07-02-04, 12:43
Yellow Fever #2
Then why are you marrying her?
If you aren't sure then don't do it.
I a choice two has to make, not one and then the other follow in the wake of it.
Tinybobo1002
07-02-04, 19:28
Regarding virgin, it is interested. I have yet to see one. Girls living in big cities along the coast such as BJ and SH, having reasonable social skills but not a very ugly face, usually become sexually active at their late teens or early 20s, once they leave home for college or factory work. I can't image a woman at 40s who is a virgin but is willing to do bj and anal. When dealing with Chinese woman, I would like to rank the following activities with them, from the least to the most difficult:
1. Kissing, fondling, etc. (least difficult)
2. Intercourse.
3. bj
4. anal
5. try to con money from them (most difficult)
If you find a virgin, fuck her quick to verify. In sz, a virgin is being sold at rmb2000 a night. The second night costs rmb500. It is dirty cheap. Virginity means nothing in modern China. Of course, if the girl is a muslim from western provinces, that's another ball game.
Trisomie
07-02-04, 22:35
I'm in love with Hsu Chi.
I know she's Taiwanese. But she is also Han Chinese.
I need to find her look-a-like.
I have made it my mission in life. Never mind P4P, this one's a keeper.
My only problem is where to look. Is it true that most Taiwanese are originally from the Shanghai area?.
Please guys, has anyone seen anyone with similar features and, if so, in which province/city.
I can't begin to look in Hong Kong or Taiwan until I'm a millionaire because I know thats what the girls from there are looking for. For now I have to scour the mainland.
Thank's for any and all observations.
Cheers
Trisomie
Dick Johnson
07-03-04, 04:10
Wicked SH, considering the thousands of mongers who read this site plus the pimps/operators and the authorities and other web site readers, you'll be surprised how much word from this site spreads around. BTW, thanks for the compliment.
Actually those 3 tips applies to practically all women.
Good Will Hunting
07-03-04, 05:31
Dick Johnson.
Agree in heart what you said.
Saw some pretty SHese but they all did the first one you said. Such a diaster of their pretty face.
And yes, me myself has posted some advice on thats sh and only find a few womans will never reply you again once she figured out you are not a westerner, even though you are still a foreigner.
Native Humper
07-04-04, 00:22
I experienced a situation similar to ther one Miclac reported. I met girl 21 years old on asiadragon. When I went to China she came to my room and it was not 10 minutes later and daty was on.
She spent the night and the next day we stayed in my room all day. More daty and she gave bbbjcim but I could not get cloe to her pussy with my cock. She also said she was saving her virgin for her husband.
About 6 months after I came home, she sent me a message and said that she had gone to a club and met some guy and her nailed her. Go think.
Wicked SH
07-05-04, 08:46
Great advice about divorce/marriage from Count G everyone should go and re-read it.
I think all western men need to have a pre-nup before getting married.
Remember that in china a trip to the registration office is all that is needed to get married as long as you have the certificate of mariageability from your consulate. You will be legally married although most chinese girls try to protray it as a mariage licenses it is not. Be very careful with this! It is a divorce after you are registered and you can be taken to the cleaners. I have a couple of friends that didn't heed my warnings about this and regret it to some degree. Don't let them presure you to much, you have to be understanding because they are getting presured from friends and families, but don't give in until you are ready.
Also alot of girls are only chasing the passport. Possibly cash, but nearly all want a western green card. Not all, but most will tell you anything to get the passport.
Remember that girls in BBS and KTV's are working girls. They make money by making you feel great and giving you a great GFE. Some are so good at it making men believe they are so special and wonderful that men give them all kinds of things. Cell phones, clothes, money, and just about anything else. All you have to do is read the forums from just about any country to see a love story that ended badly. As has been said many times treat the girls with respect and kindness because they are humans and possibly good people, but remember that they probably are not really interested in you they are just doing their job. Don't go dropping lots of money on them. When the money is gone so are they. That is miserable because then you don't even have the coin to go out mongering to make yourself feel better.
Trisomie
07-06-04, 03:28
Any Chinese nymphomaniacs?
Is sex always about the money for Chinese girls?
Has anyone on this board ever met a Chinese girl that just wants to listen to music, get high and f**k her brains out just because it feels good?. Are they all prudes?.
I knew a Filipina in Canada like that once. Just loved sex and could not get enough cock. She wanted nothing in return but to cum and cum.
Does China have any nymphos or are they all dead f**ks who are only in it for the money. I know it's not the sixties man but what happened to free love?. Any women out there in China that want to have sex just because it's pleasurable?. C'mon ladies you don't have the catholic church trying to make you feel guilty about it like they try and do in other cuntries
If not then f**k it. I'm going to the Philippines where the girls go like fuckin rabbits. Must be that latin blood.
Cheers
Trisomie
Wicked SH
07-06-04, 12:58
Not all Chinese women are interested in money, most I have met are not. I have only met a couple that were that way, and I met both of them in bars. I also have known several chinese nymphos. But they are different in china. Chinese women have a real commitment to family and tradition. So most women aren't going to drop their pants for you simply because you told them a few good lines.
Younger women are a little more open as in 19-22, but even they are not as likely as western women to jump in bed with you. What all are looking for is committed relationships that could lead to marriage. They are wonderful women, and will treat you with respect and devotion that you won't find in most western women.
They are not prudes they just want a real relationship to feel comfortable about opening up. But when they do open up they will have sex with you pretty much as much as you want. Unlike most western women they actually want to take care of and please you.
About Filipinas be very carefull. All I have known and most I have heard of are psycos. They will get angry and stick you with a knife. I have dated a few in america and they and their friends all were crazy. One was especially violent and tried to scratch my eyes out. One of my friends was stabbed by one. I have a couple of friends that married filipinas and regret it. They are very jealous and tempermental by nature. As in all types their are exceptions to the rule. I have heard of a few that were sweet loving subservient girls, but only a few and none personally.
Miclac
07-06-04, 23:30
Wicked,
As far as you know most that you have met are not interested in money. I think 9 times out of 10 with Chinese women it is about money one way or another. If they dont have much of it then they are looking for a guy for "security" and "stability". This means money. God forbid they have more money than you or a higher social status then they will never let you live it down and her family with never give you an ounce of respect. That is just there way of thinking about it. I think in China marriage is more like a business deal than anything else. This is not just between a foreigner and a Chinese girl but among Chinese themselves. Also, even among the ones who will give you sex anytime you want it, it is not always very enthusiastic. They will give it to you out of a sense of duty but that's about it. The Chinese woman who really is crazy about sex and is a total "nympho" is rare. Sex is about making babies for most Chinese women. I think women in China can be a fun diversion if you dont lose your head about it and let some ***** snow you.
The Jello
07-07-04, 05:22
I'd been in Asia for the past 13 years of which 5 in China.
Any one has its own opinion and expereince, on my personal experience I believe that all cinese women are in for the money, in one way or the other. It is in their mentality and way of living.
A Philippina will be happy living by the beach fucking her man day and night and eating bananas. The Chinese girl will make the guy care for the banana plant and sell the crops for the money.
NO FUCKING!
@sh
07-07-04, 05:36
Miclac,
Maybe it's because you're foreigner, or because you do not speak the language well (just guessing), but a few of those statements you made are way off base. I've met a bunch of nymphos who aren't out for the money. In China a lot of these girls are side girl friends with expense accounts. They're looking for some fun too.
Feiji
07-07-04, 08:51
interesting topic and imho all are valid points. i have lived here for 10 years and speak better chinese than a lot of the waidiren. also, i have been with literally hundreds of girls over the years from sw to models. there is a direct correlation between the beauty of the girl and the money required. there are exceptions of course, but 99% of the time this is the case. by the time a really pretty girl is 13 years old, their shu shu is hitting on them and these chicks begin to learn damn well they are going to have a future very different than their unattractive friends. why do you think the real heaters can't speak a dime of english？ because they know from an early age it will be a different road and they don't have to study hard. come to think of it, i don't think i have ever seen a drop dead looking girl here in china that can speak english. if you want to find a sex partner/gf who is a real looker be prepared to spend money, end of story. these chicks have rent to pay, expensive clothes, travel to/from hometown etc. the money that is flying around china these days is insane. if you don't spend it on them there are multitudes with serious cash who will. the most expensive age group is 20 to 28 years old.
if the girl is average looking your chances increase and if she speaks english even better because then you can be her teacher. learning english seems to be all the rage.
chinese are generally very intelligent people and some of the most frugal people on the planet. a really bright chick is going to always be thinking of ways to better her future rather than run up the snatch speedometer just for hell of it.
feiji
Wicked SH
07-07-04, 09:33
Jello and Miclac,
Jello, if you truely knew the Philippines you would know that they don't call themselves philippina, they call themselves filipina. But as I said before they are psyco however you spell it.
You might be right about a filipina sitting on the beach being lazy eating the bananas, and the chinese girl getting herself out of the house working hard and selling them. But you are definetly wrong about chinese girls sex drives, and who would care for the banana plant. The chinese girl would certainly take care of the plant, give you lots of great sex regardless of whether it was because of duty or desire.
You two and several others seem to really misunderstand chinese women and money. Your right that money matters to them. But not how you seem to think. They don't care if you are rich or poor. They don't want to spend all your money. They will wear old clothes and eat lower quality food, and cook the meals, and clean the house themselves, and do everything they can not to spend money so they can save it. They will work hard, save and invest. They will want their husband to work hard, save and invest. But they are not as strict on him about it as they are themselves. They expect men to go out and drink a beer with the guys on occasion, to buy toys and such.
Chinese girls want to develop a relationship and build a family. They are pragmatic and want to build a positive future with their mate and family. Now this is a generalization and like all generalizations not every chinese girl follows this pattern. Shanghai girls are somewhat more materialistic than Suzhou girls. They want white skin, nice clothes and better houses. But they still believe in the fundamental qualities of hard work, saving and investing, building a family and such.
Filipinas on the other hand are very materialistic. They want to wear RL Polo, DKNY, and such. They want the mercedes or lexus car. They want to go out shopping and prefer not to work. They are also very jealous and possesive. You can not go out for a beer with your friends unless she comes with you. You better not look at another girl. And filipinas have a tendancy towards violence.
This is my experience with both types of women and that of my friends. Your mileage will vary.
Miclac your comment about social status is somewhat correct. But not many of us mongers are going to have to much of an issue with it. We are not even very likely as westerners to meet those girls. Even if we do unless you pretend to be or are very wealthy you will not likely marry her and there by not be an issue. Since you are a westerner your status is higher than that of all but the more wealthy families. Unless your scum of coarse, but then you know you are and why are you marring a high class girl.
I have a rule about who I spend time with regardless of whether she works at the BBS, KTV, or she is a girl friend I met through a friend or something. The girls that are ok with westerners don't hide it, if you stick with the girls that seem to want to be with you you will have good experiences. She will have a twinkle in her eye, there will be body language, she will likely move closer to you. She will certainly be more friendly than a normal girl. If you stick with those girls whether your dating or paying you will have pretty good luck. Keep in mind she might not be as good looking as the best looking girl, but she wants to be with you. So unless you want to marry her what does it matter as long as she is attractive and takes good care of your little man that is what counts.
My humble opinion.
Miclac
07-07-04, 22:34
Wicked,
As for that being your "humble" opinion, I dont see much humility in your statements. As for the other poster, I do speak Chinese. I also never said I haven't met any Chinese girls who were really horny. I have met and enjoyed a few of them. I am not saying that Chinese women are really any worse than women in other countries. I just think they have their own unique ways about them and if you are willing to accept it then that is fine. I just think that you should not have any fantasies about meeting a great "traditional" girl in China. I think most say they are "traditional"(chuan tong de) or conservative(bao shou de) women as a way to see how long they can make you wait. This is not always the case but it is often the case. Just like women in many places they just dont want to appear too easy. I think you need to sort out the b.s and you will be fine. I also think that before you fall for some girl in China you had better be sure you know what you are getting yourself into. You should also consider that know matter how good you think your Chinese is or how much you think you know about China that they will always consider you an outsider and you will never be Chinese.
The Jello
07-08-04, 09:44
Wicked SH,
Sorry but my Tagalog is a bit rusty. You are rite the correct spelling is Filippina.
I'm sorry you had bad experience in US, mabe there Filippinas are mor stuck up; but clearly you are wrong when you talking about branded clothes and cars.
Cinese are born to worship branded goods.
You live in Shanghai, take a look around a shopping mall, same as HK and Singapore.
Anyway Feiji had better words than me and I agree with him.
Good Hunting,
The Jello
Trisomie
07-09-04, 03:11
Feiji
What is a "Shu Shu"?.
Thanks
Trisomie
Trisomie
07-09-04, 03:34
Wicked SH,
In your previous post you discuss dating pretty girls and the associated costs. (clothes, money, cars etc).
You then go on to mention that the best looking hottest girls are most likely to marry a wealthy Chinese, or perhaps a foreigner that is wealthy also (you mentioned that being a foreigner automatically bestows a certain amount of social status).
As you seem to have a great deal of insight on the subject I wanted to ask you a couple of questions.
1) Suppose I am a handsome, wealthy (10 million US+) foreigner who was university educated, would I be able to, theoretically, marry any "class" or beauty of Chinese girl I so desired? And what is the youngest age a wealthy Chinese family would let their daughter marry at and how old would be too old for the groom to be? (would I have to pay a dowry?).
2) When you refer to "wealthy Chinese" and "very wealthy families", how much wealth are you talking here approximately?. 1 million?, 5 million?, 10 million?, 25 million or more. Or, because this is China are their definitions of "wealth" lower than western levels on a dollar basis?. I know when you are wealthy in Hong Kong then you REALLY are wealthy. Is it the same for the mainland?.
Thanks for your response
Cheers
Trisomie
Mock A Bee
07-09-04, 16:23
Triesomie,
Shu Shu means "uncle". I have also heard Shu Shu used in reference to "police man".
Wicked SH
07-09-04, 16:28
"Shu Shu" is Mandarin for a girl or boys fathers younger brother. Or uncle.
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Norse Kaiser
07-10-04, 04:29
"Shu Shu" has a lot of implications, it can simply be a common way of greeting any male person who is about 15 years or more your senior, or it can also refer to the younger brother of anyone's father,
Anybody who wants to use this phrase when talking about a police man had better add " jing cha " ahead of it, which means police, or else it can be quite confusing in one way or another. Still then this will be a argot of some sort.
At times, it may be a casual and informal title to address any male person who has authority over others.
Norse kaiser
Big One
07-10-04, 20:02
Note: This is a continuation of the discussion regarding the pros and cons of freebies in China that began in the Shanghai section.
Guys,
It's true that freebies are not always free in so many ways. But it can be nice to have a woman that likes you and really cares about you. (I’m not talking about gold diggers here that just want your money). Sure, you may do stuff that you don’t always want to do and it is definitely a pain in the ass compared to the simplicity of going to prostitutes, but freebies do have their benefits. (Of course, it really helps if the freebie is hot). For the people reading this, there is not a shortage of “good” Chinese women that like Western guys, though Japan is probably much better as a place for casual sexual relationships with normal women.
As a fellow mongerer (and a big fan of Blankie and his posts) I am most definitely not trying to preach here. I guess all I am saying is that it is perhaps best to have a balance between mongering and normal women. I know how mongering in China can become addictive, but don’t allow mongering to completely replace interactions with normal chicks.
Big One
Big One
07-11-04, 00:20
Note: This is a continuation of the discussion regarding the pros and cons of freebies in China that began in the Shanghai section.
Guys,
It's true that freebies are not always free in so many ways. But it can be nice to have a woman that likes you and really cares about you. (I’m not talking about gold diggers here that just want your money). Sure, you may do stuff that you don’t always want to do and it is definitely a pain in the ass compared to the simplicity of going to prostitutes, but freebies do have their benefits. (Of course, it really helps if the freebie is hot). For the people reading this, there is not a shortage of “good” Chinese women that like Western guys, though Japan is probably much better as a place for casual sexual relationships with normal women.
As a fellow mongerer (and a big fan of Blankie and his posts) I am most definitely not trying to preach here. I guess all I am saying is that it is perhaps best to have a balance between mongering and normal women. I know how mongering in China can become addictive, but don’t allow mongering to completely replace interactions with normal chicks.
Big One
Spike
07-11-04, 07:13
Interesting thread. I feel compelled to throw in with my 2 cents.
I'm not as experienced as most of you on this board when it comes to Chinese women, but the few I've know (in China and the U.S.) are certainly no more mercenary than their counterparts elsewhere.
I'm wondering where most of you guys are from. Looking past a night of passion to see the wallet behind it is a common trait of almost all women, isn't it? I think it is a genetic tendency of the female gender. Think about it; the male biological imperitive is to impregnate as many women as possible. That is how WE ensure the survival of our genes. We can father literally thousands of offspring (assuming we can find enough willing partners).
Women, on the other hand, must nurture and provide for and protect the relatively few offspring they can birth (20-25 tops, nothing like us guys). They are hard-wired to provide for their kids. I think this biological tendency is more pronounced in poorer countries where finding a competent (or well off) mate can literally mean the difference between life and death.
I don't want to hear about mercenary Chinese women. Go to New York City and check out a singles club on a Friday night. Report back with the results.
As for Chinese vs. Filippina women.... sorry for that digression, but the Chinese women I've known have all been classy, even the dancers I've met in bars. We are coarse in comparison. I'll never forget a gal disdainfully asking me if I was still hungry because I was chewing my nails after dinner, and she was a SW!!
In my experience, Chinese woman are practical, but no more money-grubbing than any other race or nationality. They have an ancient civilization and I love them.
As for the Filippina? Well, I was married to one for 6 years. It ended, sh*t you not, in me being stabbed because she was jealous of me going to night school (after working all day). She was convinced I was cheating (I wasn't). I know that in the Southern Provinces, they seem to have a different kind of knife for each kind of killing. I was fluent in Tagalog at the time, although that wasn't a big help in the south..... I can tell you from vast experience, those women can be (and usually ARE) f*cking crazy. If you can keep them from being jealous or losing their temper, you will have lots of "f*ck like a rabid weasel" sex, BUT..... the best lover I ever had was a beautiful Chinese girl in Hong Kong, maybe 19 y.o., and no money changed hands.
Spike, out.....
Sound Stream #2
07-12-04, 11:06
Trisomie,
With money, you can't get any girl you want. But it can make it easier, because having more money can affect your attitude.
Think about it, if you have more money than you can spend,
and do not have to worry about work (which alot of people have to worry about), that'll reflect in your overall attitude, and you'll be perceived as being one of the liveliest and free spirited happy guy. That kind of attitude gets you a lot of women.
If I really like a girl, I never tell them how much I make in order to impress them. I know that geniune love is something you can not buy with money. If you bought your girl friend with money, some other person who knows how to express themselves in a way that touches a girl's emotional self in way she rarely feels, that person can easily take her away from you. So instead of spending money, I show them with my mindset and attitude that I'm the best, and I know it. I have what it takes to make her feel alive, and she feels much better about living life when I'm in it.
So if you're serious about a girl, don't ever try to win her over with your money, instead, win her over by taking her heart.
But, on the other hand, if its just some girl you want to shagg,
or for short term, winning them over with money will do.
Dog Day
07-13-04, 04:30
Been in China quite a while. Have dated quite a number of Chinese women and my observations are:
- Majority likes to go out with guys that gives them a sense of security. This does not necessarily mean money though for some it does)
- It is hard to say if you can have sex with your date or not. Some looks "easy" but hard to get into bed. Some looks prude but will have sex with you on the first date.
- Shanghainese girls like to be treated like queens. Chinese girls from other provinces does not.
- Virginity is still important to some. Have dated two women who can stay in my place. You can kiss and do some kinky things except penetrate her pussy.
- Some treat sex like a need. I have dated girls and had sex with-out any commitment. They said they need it and want to enjoy it.
- On the nympho issue. I met a girl last week-end who looks virginal. We chatted on the internet and we met because we plan to have sex the whole week-end, which we did. She was insatiable.
- Young girls are so guillible. Now is open season on students looking for some summer fun. Young, good looking western dudes will have the first choice on these batch. These students like to experience sex with a young, good looking studs. There will be some that will go with some older western guys though. A few will go out with old Asian men like me. just had a fling with a 21 year old student 3 weeks ago. It cost me a bundle since we went to Qingdao for a week-end and stayed in a 5-star hotel. She was worth it since she was a stunner, and a virgin. The week-end cost me $500. We did not see each other after the trip.
- Some women are just so lovable and nice. My present lover is from Nanjing, a real pretty girl of 24. If I was single, I would marry this girl. She is sweet, nice and not materialistic at all. When we go to restaurants, she picks the simplest food, never ask for shopping money and will not even take money for her taxi. I guess sometimes you meet a real gem.
This is all I can share, for now.
Harley FL
07-21-04, 22:55
Married to Chinese girl for 2 yrs. We are divorced now because USA would never approve her to come over here. Her father was a Chinese diplomat. That may or may not have been the problem. I will tell you that I was treated like a king during my stays in Beijing. The girl I married was very virtuous, yet when we married she became a nymph. I loved sex with her because when she came, she squirted as much as me. It was a great time there and I miss it. She has told me that she would never marry a Chinese man because they are very mean to their women. She is an executive and speaks fluent english. I would like for her to find a good man to marry.
H
James Cook
07-22-04, 13:54
The chinese girls I encountered appear much inward in character.
They are willing to have sex with guys because she love or at least like them. I am pretty sure not entire chinese girls wanna be fucked just for money. I got a chinese girl in the past few monthes and she like to do everything to my demand. But later things has changed, she turned more conservative and rejected to have some fun together. I ask her what make her act in total different ways. She said the former affection had faded away, she don't love me any more as she used to do, therefor sex has been graduatly reduced.
My reflection is that being a real "gentleman" is very important and will definitely render you more sex and less bucks. The girls will make their measurement of men through trivial affars, such as holding the door open, pulling out the chairs, give them comfort when they have experienced distress or relief when overdrunk, ect. Treat them nice and gentle, thus stream of free sex activities will definitely follow.
Dog Day is right about young girls. They are very guillible and are very crazy to enjoy the sense of romantics and fashion thing. Honey promise, swear and other sweet words do work out. This provide tremendous opportunities for these good-looking young dude.
JC
Dashman
07-22-04, 14:40
Advise please!
I have been living in Shanghai for more than a year now and have gone through a lot of P4P experience.
Now I have a great chance of having a nice lady into my bed for free. But I am little curious about the aftermath / risk factor.
She is living next door. Her hubby seems to be a rich man but always away. The wife (the lady) is desparate for f**ck. She has invited me many times to her house at night when she is alone. Few ocations she knocked my door around mid night as she doesnt get sleep.
I may loose my control. She is too hot! I am thinking of accepting her invitation soon or should I wait till the last week of my stay in Shanghai. Or is there any trap?
What do the members say. Please advise.
Dashman
Kunshan
07-23-04, 00:39
Dashman,
There is a saying in Chinese, The Rabbit never eats the grass around its burrow.
So my suggestion is tell her that at the moment you don't think its a good idea, but that once you are almost gone it will be a different story, keep her fire for you hot.
Just my POV.
Mock A Bee
07-23-04, 17:09
Dashman,
Absolutely give her the pleasure of her life. Bbang her till she can't take it anymore!
Just don't get caught! If her husband truly is wealthy, then he can literally get away with murder.
Good luck!
James Cook
07-25-04, 04:20
Dashman,
Just relax and bang her, but only in your apartment. You don't know what deal in her room, probably a hidden camera scan you nude.
JC
EddieC
07-25-04, 07:09
Quick question for the group. Any comments on Black men in China? I'm an experienced Black male and relatively comfortable financially. I recently developed a fondness for Asian women after a short affair with a Chinese woman. She was one of the most beautiful women I've ever been with. And that experience left me wanting more.
I've visited (and sampled) many places in North, Central and South America. Now I'm turning my sights to Asia. Any info would be appreciated. Either in the general message board or private message.
Thanks,
Ed
Hello2003
07-26-04, 00:16
EddieC,
I've spent a lot of time in China, and I will be returning to Beijing iate August for 8 weeks. You didn't specify where you thought about going but here is my thoughts on the scene.
I have a Chinese girlfriend there in her mid-20's from previous visits who I adore, and have also partaken in the mongering scene with professionals at the typical *****monger place you visit, and also just picking up women I have met out and about.
I'm not black, but I have had at least three ladies ask me about black culture, usually when they go off on a tangent about my penis size compared to Chinese men. And their comments on blacks have been less than kind.
They do tend to have negative attitudes towards black men. Both men and women feel this way. Unfortunately, the black male is not viewed favorably, you will not have much luck meeting women for a GF experience once you are there, unless you develop some kind of relationship in advance. It's not a scientific fact, but from my sampling all three had the same views, and these were educated women with good jobs and a good income for a Beijing Chinese woman.
However, on the other hand, the few black males I have seen out and about in Beijing seemed to be having a great time, but it was always at a club where there are prostitutes.
I'd encourage you to go and have fun regardless, or else try to find a more Aisan intense American city like the Bay area for Asian chicks who are more comfortable with black guys.
I'm 40, good career, still attractive, divorced 5 years ago, and the ladies I have met in China have always been far superior in their dedication to even a short-term relationship than any American or Euro woman I have been with. I'll refrain from talking about my ex, that is a whole nother story.
Striking a relationship with a Chinese chick is an amazing experience. There are tons of them in their mid-20's who are frustrated with Chinese men, and as a 40 year old single guy, I just love them telling me all about it, as well as how much I appreciate China's culture, history and growing economic entity.
Go get yourself one, they are great.
Three I
07-26-04, 07:55
The women in Dalian are the best! I have never been to China but I will go this Dec. All of the Chinese women that are cool with me are or were from Dalian China!
Norse Kaiser
07-26-04, 09:27
Well, yes, compared with women from other parts of China, those from Dalian tend to be more passionate and more relaxed with men.
NK
Wicked SH
07-27-04, 08:34
I love chinese women! I have been very busy recently so haven't had much time to post.
Right now I have three or four freebies. One on her way as I write this. (I know which is it three or four, it depends on how you define freebie ;-)
I have had a great time the past couple of weeks in shanghai, shenzhen, and hong kong. With BBS, KTV, and women I met incidentaly. I have had awesome sex with more than 20 girls.
All of the freebies could be a great girl friend or wife if I was ready for such. They are nymphos giving me hours of sex everytime I get together with them. Sending me dirty messages, and seducing me. I check out some boards in the USA and else where and I feel so sorry for them and their problems. First P4P is not as easy to get as here. 2nd girls treat the guys like shit. 3rd you rarely hear about nymphos in the US. 4th they spend way more money than us. 5th on and on and on.
I love this country, and its women.
The Search
07-28-04, 05:10
In response to Eddie, I would say that you will do fine in China. Generally people have uninformed views of black people. It is not just China; the same case applies all over.
I am a black guy and I had plenty of fun during my trip to south China. Just like any other women, there are plenty of Chinese women that are curious about black guys. They may be afraid, but will indeed warm up to you very quickly once you engage them in a conversation. I was able to meet and sample regular girls from a dance club, restaurant (she literally came to me), hotel frontdesk lady, tour guide, and ofcourse the ones I had already met on yahoo. There was too much snatch for me to schedule in my three weeks visit. Yes, and they were free. Ofcourse not counting food. The only time I paid to play was in HK.
OldAsiaHand
07-29-04, 00:29
Dashman,
It's too close to home. If the husband finds out, and he is indeed rich, powerful and connected, he can make life very difficult for you in China.
Just my POV.
OAH
Pazusu
07-29-04, 05:33
My opinion,
I'm now about 2 years in China (mostly shenzhen area), and my real life here started after about 3 months. First you get the "moneygirls" after your tail. If you are in China just for short period, my advise, go for them all.
If you are in China for long period, my advise, stay away from them.
It will harm your reputation once you go for the real work.
So after 3 months my face became familiar in the streets, bars, restaurant, hotels, etc.
I meet a lot of girls who are in for a relationship, just make clear
you are not ready for that. I'm too young I say, (as for chinese women, I am young, just 31) Otherwise you will stuck on your first date and the others you gone have todo behind her back. My mistake in the beginning.
This will bring your chances of getting layed pretty down, but
no panic there's plenty more.
I take my time, most girls I get layed with are my friends, we go out, have dinner, go to movies, play some pool, drink some beer. What this cost me, some beer, some dinner, some taxi (if they have no car). Not quite different from my country. The only different is that in my country I'm lucky to have 5 girlfriends, here I can have unlimited.
Some of my girlfriends I never had sex with and I never will, they just good companion. Other, we end up always in bed.
Most girl are fairly young, 20-35, so they like "experimenting". Yes it's fun. And I can asure you its much more fun if you know each other for a while.
I never want to leave China!
Some tips:
- Buy large boxes of condoms, they are much cheaper.
- Try not to fall in love, i know its hard sometimes. but its the end of the hunter.
- Do not chase your dick, chase fun, your dick will have his fun later.
- If your good looking (like me, lol) always say your poor poor poor. (well I am a little poor to be honest) But again it seperates the moneygirls from the honeygirls.
As I must admits once they know you very well, money is not important for them anymore. Dispite from what i read in this forum,that my experience.
- Girls with cars are highly recommanded, they can drive you to the ones with no car!
- Be nice to ugly girls, they might have a handsome friend.
- And go after chinese twins, like the goldmember movie. I am counting 2 for now.(that is pairs of course)
- Dick size is not important (no I am not small!) its the way you use it.
- Sometimes the chase is better then the catch!
Good Luck and have fun in this lovely country!
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Angel Eyes
07-30-04, 01:59
Pazusu, nice post.
I liked the most this line:
"Girls with cars are highly recommanded, they can drive you to the ones with no car!"
Angel Eyes
brownfunstick
07-30-04, 06:29
I can second all The Search has said about brothas doing well in Asia. I am a black guy who is currently married to a filipina. Before I got hitched, (and sometims still) I sampled the wares of many asian hunnies. I've been to Indonesia, Hong Kong, and the Philippines for starts, and have always had good success. Filipinas are generally more open and accepting, due some already having experience with black men. I also used to belong to several dating sites like AsianEuro, FilipinaHeart and ThaiLoveLinks, and always seem to get a great deal of very interested asian hunnies. Dont believe me, just try openning a profile at any of these, and find out for yourself. In short fellas, dont sweat it. Some might be put off, but still more will be receptive. Sure some are after El Green Card or cash, (happens to all menregardless) but hey whatever gets you the ass. Afterall, we are on this board talking about buying that pussy anyway. Though if you treat them with respect, there's usually no trouble getting freebie's. Best sex I ever had was a Javanese chick I met through a dating service. Flew to Indonesia to meet her, and she gave it up the first day we met. Stayed there about three weeks, and fucked everyday there. She couldnt get enough. You gotta let got of the bull we have learned in our society, and jsu go have a blast or two. By the way, I am planning a trip to either Thailand or PI in a few months, would love to met up with other mongers for a few days of joint hunts. If interested email me at: [Email Address deleted by Admin]
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Intransit
08-24-04, 02:45
Survey: Chinese most tolerant about extra-marital affairs
NEW YORK (AFP) — Chinese are world leaders in tolerating extramarital affairs, according to a new survey that also reveals that Americans are most likely to let religion influence their sex lives.
Twenty-three percent of Chinese believe it is all right to have an affair, especially one in which "nobody gets hurt", according to the survey released by Euro RSCG, a marketing communications agency.
The company asked people in five countries and said only 11 percent of Britons and nine percent of Americans approved of affairs.
Euro RSCG said the French and German samples were close to the Chinese level.
In all countries except Britain, more men than women would allow affairs.
In China, it was 27 percent of men against 14 percent of women, Germany 28 percent to 16, and in the United States, 13 percent of men against four percent of women.
But among Britons, 11 percent of both sexes said an affair was OK.
Only France came close, with 20 percent of men and 17 percent of women agreeing.
Despite their liberal attitude, Chinese are also more likely to believe monogamy is the best way: 70 percent of them agree, compared with 57 percent of Americans but only 44 percent in France, 42 percent in Britain and 40 percent in Germany.
The Chinese are also the least likely to consider it normal for somebody aged about 30 to have had 10 or more different lovers during his or her single years.
Just 17 percent of Chinese agreed, compared with 30 percent of French, 49 percent of Americans, 52 percent of Germans, and 59 percent of British.
Euro RSCG said its Prosumer Pulse 2004 survey asked 1,982 Americans, 2,127 British, 2,000 French, 3,158 Germans, and 2,079 Chinese about attitudes to sex, finance, technology and commerce.
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I imagine some of you have written things, and given them to others to read. I don't know why, but every time I do this I get butterflies in my tummy. I pace back and forth and wonder if they think it's going to be garbage.
That always leads to the thought that it probably is garbage and I'm just wasting my time going down a literary path.
Then I always tell myself that I'll just keep writing because practice makes perfect, right?
Although if no one likes this, and this is my voice, doesn't that make me doomed?
Then again, writing brings me sanity, and well, you get the point.
Of all the things I could choose to spend my time doing, I choose writing. The most emotionally draining, sweat inducing, unprofitable thing in the world. Of course I can say the same thing about motherhood, which is the other thing I spend my time on.
I just have to ask myself, why I'm going through this torture? Do I really I have a bestselling book on my hands? No, honestly, I don't. Yet, I'm still pushing forward. I really don't know that I'll ever be published, but I do know I want to finish this. I can't go through my life asking what if?
I'm finishing my book because I need to know that I can follow something through to the end. That, and I'm rather attached to the story. Maybe a little too attached. I'm not sure anyone can love it like I do.
I want to know, how have you guys coped with others reading your work, and critiquing it? Anything to help me calm my nerves. Because really, I'm just a big softy.
Posted by Jennie Bennett at 7:00 AM
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20 comments:
Louise Bates said...
That's a tough one. The people who critique my work always tend to err on the side of kindness, which then makes me think it must be really bad if they're only saying nice things about it! (Note to self: get meaner critique partners.) This really is the sort of thing I can imagine only gets better the more you do it ... but I haven't done it enough yet to know for sure!
June 29, 2011 at 7:03 AM
Sarah said...
I write something else. Or read something else. Those are my primary coping mechanisms. When I'm too tired, I watch movies and read blogs. In other words, I distract myself. It's what's getting me through the submission process. Good luck!
June 29, 2011 at 7:06 AM
Steven W said...
I tell you, it can be tough. But my favorite critique readers are the ones who are most opinionated about what they don't like. The trick is remembering that even the bestsellers have people who didn't like it, so the comments you get need to be looked at through a lens that lets you agree or disagree without getting offended.
It helps if the beta readers you use are experienced with the kind of critique you're looking for.
Good luck!
June 29, 2011 at 7:34 AM
Angela V. Cook said...
You're a very talented writer! You shouldn't worry so much! That being said, I know exactly how you feel ;o) I was a nervous wreck when I sent my first 5 pages off to you. I had this vision in my head of you suppressing laughter as you read it over, lol (that didn't happen, did it? haha, J/K)
I also agree with Elouise82- You want critique partners who are going to be honest and not be afraid to give you their two cents. Trust me--it's much better to have a fellow writer point things out than an agent. With my first book, I was terrified to have anyone read it, so I didn't. An agent requested the first 3 chapters (hard copy mailed to him). I was mortified when, along with the rejection, he included the firt two pages of my ms marked up to high heaven. I was so embarrassed, because most of the mistakes were simple errors that a good critique partner would've caught. One of those lessons learned the hard way I suppose!
June 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM
Ava Jae said...
Everyone said it and it's true: it's hard.
I think one of the hardest parts of writing is distancing yourself from the work. Not too long ago a friend asked me what I would choose if I could have any talent in the world. I said the ability to distance myself from my writing immediately.
Yeah, it's that important.
Sending your work off to get critiqued is an important part of the process. Know that if the critique that comes back is harsh, it's actually a GOOD thing. Nice critiques don't really help you fix much if they don't point out many errors, right?
Good luck with the submission process! And know that you're totally not alone in this. :)
June 29, 2011 at 8:19 AM
cherie said...
Hey Jen, I get butterflies too! Mammoth-size butterflies in my stomach. I'm a neurotic writer so that makes it extra hard. When I send off my work to be crit, I'm the kind who sits down and rereads my piece over and over again. Then I go through different phases:
1. Ok, it's not that bad.
2. Oh crap, I'm delusional!
3. Do you think I can get it back and edit?
4. Sighsighsigh...(checks email 20 times to see if I've gotten feedback yet)
5. Hmm, I wonder what I should make for dinner (surfs web)
:D Hang in there! You'll be fine. Goodluck and lots of hugs!
June 29, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Kelley said...
Ugh, I know that feeling. HAaaaAte it. But I just tell myself once it's done and others are reading it, that it's done (until you need to edit it again) and I give myself full permission to write something else to get my mind off of it.
Plus, even if it was somehow awful, the thing about writing is, you can always write something else (and tell yourself it'll be better).
June 29, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Bethany C. said...
Oh my gosh, YES!
I throw up a little every time I pass my MS on to someone. I've even created these little dialogues that play over and over in my head about what they're probably thinking at this part or during that scene.
They call us neurotic for a reason. You are definitely NOT alone!
June 29, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Krista said...
My husband gave me the best advice ever after reading my novel. He said to take everything with a grain of salt, because it was my story. He said that I should not change something just to make one person happy.
June 29, 2011 at 1:06 PM
Melanie said...
I have to admit that I totally know what you are talking about even though I have never sent five pages anywhere. I am not talented in the area of coming up with an original fictional story. I can't do that! Every time I used to try, it turned into one of the stories I've already read. I have, however, had that feeling you are talking about when I edited/critiqued your five pages, or have performed talents or expressed myself for the world, (no matter how small that world may be,) to see.
I think any time we open ourselves up, we risk negative opinions or critiques from others. Not that that makes it any easier to accept, but if we are confident in the knowledge that we have been blessed with a certain talent, writing in your case, we can take that constructive criticism and use it to help us become better.
And the fact that you care so much is a great thing. If you didn't, why write, why improve?
Thank you so much for contributing to the wholesome literary works of the world. I am honored to know you and am impressed with your talent. I love your passion for writing and the fact that you care to put out a quality product. I admit that it is hard to hear any criticism for something that is part of you; but that doesn't take away from the fact that you have been given a gift, one that very few people possess. Thank you for going out on a limb to improve that talent and bless the lives of those around you.
June 29, 2011 at 1:07 PM
Christa said...
I have actually fallen in love with the critique process because it's so much more feedback than agents give you. It's like getting a personalized insight into what others are thinking.
And even if they don't love it, they tell you how to fix it which is Awesome.
June 29, 2011 at 2:30 PM
life...just saying said...
I've never written a book. So cool that you are! I would love to, however. Not sure about the critique process. I care too much what other's think!!!
Thanks for stopping by my blog and leaving a comment.
June 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM
Lipgloss Mumma said...
I haven't gotten to that stage yet. But I know when I do I will totally doubt my existence on this planet!
June 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM
The Tame Lion said...
Yes, I understand, totally.
Just remember:
To reach a great height a person needs to have great depth.
This quote helped me a lot, I hope it'll help you too!
I'm always here to support you.
June 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM
Marion Williams-Bennett said...
First off, I love this line..
"Of all the things I could choose to spend my time doing, I choose writing. The most emotionally draining, sweat inducing, unprofitable thing in the world"
I think you write because you have something to say, something beautiful that needs to be our in the world! Having someone critique it is important, but I think WHO you have critique it is a really important choice. If you believe in them, in their opinion, then you can stand to hear the feedback. Butterflies are wonderful, it shows you are alive!
Happy writing!
June 30, 2011 at 8:38 AM
Melissa Ann Goodwin said...
It's so tricky isn't it!! People are different and they have different voices in their heads! I keep it to a very few, who love me and my writing, but will also tell me the truth. My husband is the best. I was afraid to show him my work at first (you know how that is) but it turned out he is both my biggest champion and my best critc. He catches me every time. I think it helps to get some smaller things published, then you begin to trust in your own voice and style. I'm publishing my first children's novel this fall, and part of the reason I have confidence in it is that I had two agents offer to represent it. That's the good news. Bad news was the agent didn't manage to sell it (I said only large publishers, no small ones or I'd do it myself). Good news was that having 2 agents want it helped me know it was good enough to face the world. So here I go. My final thinking on your question is: find just a couple (fewer than five) people who "get" you and only share with them. Look forward to following you on this journey, hope you'll stop by my place for a visit.
June 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM
MTeacress said...
Sometimes it's easy (like via email with my old critique group). Other times it's hard (like in a conference workshop or classroom writing exercise read-aloud). The more I do it, the tougher my skin though, and strangely, the more confident I am with my 'gut' - at least today. It changes every month. ;)
June 30, 2011 at 9:08 PM
Lyn Midnight said...
Awww Jen, I'm sure you'll finish this! And it's funny how writers do these head-tennis-matches all the time, isn't it? Or is it just us two? In any case, I know you're gonna do it because you're inspired and you're driven, so that should be enough.
I'll abstain from giving any sort of 'advice' or 'insight' because I'm really way worse off than you are right now. I'm also stubborn, but most of all, I'm ever so insecure in my writing. So much so, I have been trying to make myself EDIT for the past month. *sigh* One of these days I'll kick myself in the butt, slap myself in the face, and get the f*ck writing.
Oops, excuse my French, lol. *hugs* YOU CAN DO IT!
July 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM
Emily Moir said...
I usually cry (or feel like crying) when I get negative critiques. But once I'm done with that I suck it up and really take a look at what was said. Sometimes the most hurtful things are the most helpful. I'd rather have the emotional roller coaster than not take care of my story though. I think anything you put that much time and effort into should count as your child. So, if you think of it that way of course you have to finish what you're writing. You wouldn't stop raising your child in their teen years just because someone tells you you're doing it wrong. If you really love it,never stop.
July 1, 2011 at 10:51 PM
V said...
omg!!! You're almost done with the book? I've missed out on a lot of updates. Anyhoo...YAY!! That's awesome!
You're book need not be a best-seller to be a 'good'book. There are a lot of books which are pure classics and yet not many know about them. Those are more precious than the normal best sellers.
It's great that you find sanity through writing. Unfortunately, I don't find sanity through anything. lol. I'm cracked in the head you see. But you know that already. lol.
July 4, 2011 at 3:43 PM
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The Women in Translation (#WiT) month is celebrated annually in August. There was a flurry of activity online with a number of gems being unearthed and discussed. It is a really fascinating time to discover new writers, new translators, new publishers etc. Whilst I enjoyed reading the various articles, interviews, profiles and even book extracts that were made available online, I realised there was a deafening silence from the Indian subcontinent.
There is a thriving literary culture that has existed in the subcontinent for an exceptionally long time in all the regional languages. Of late many of these texts are being made available in English so as to be accessed by a larger readership. Sometimes new translations are commissioned such as Daisy Rockwell’s translation of Khadija Mastur’s The Women’s Courtyard although a translation by Neelam Hussain of Simorgh Collective exists too.
Another fascinating aspect of the Indian publishing industry is that as it grows, the market grows, and so does the interest in the craft of writing. For long writers have written and published their works in various literary magazines, “women’s magazines”, newspapers etc. Of course there are now online literary spaces, discussion forums and sometimes even in the print media where writers are interviewed and their craft discussed. But interviewing writers, especially women, is an art unto itself. Women writers inevitably have to find the time to write amongst the rhythm of many other duties and commitments they need to fulfil. This was more so in the past than now when increasingly there are more and more “professional writers”. Even so, reading about the craft of writing by women writers continus to be an exciting world since irrespective of socio-economic class, many writers share the same concerns and have similar pressures. Women Unlimited, an associate of Kali for Women, has for years published interviews with women writers. Their latest publication is Lifescapes: Interviews with Contemporary Women Writers from Tamil Nadu. The Tamil publishing landscape is not an easy one to understand with many interesting threads running through it, all of which were influential upon the seventeen women writers interviewed by the editors — K. Srilata and Swarnlatha Rangarajan. While the interviews themselves are insightful, it is the structural arrangement of each entry that is fascinating for it has the mandatory biography about the author, a sample of her writing, a head note by the editors introducing the writer and why they chose her specifically to be included in the anthology and finally, the interview. Every detail adds just sufficient information creating an image of the writer that the reader definitely wants to know more about.
Ever since World Literature began to open new publishing horizons in the Anglo-American book market as well as the growth of the desi diaspora as a lucrative readership, did the spotlight on translations from regional languages into English become an attractive proposition for many firms. As a result there is a feast of offerings particularly as the multi-national publishers expand their fare. Be that as it may there are some fabulous publishers such as Women Unlimited, Zubaan, Orient Black Swan, Speaking Tiger, Permanent Black ( on occasion), Aleph Book Company, Yoda Press, Westland/Amazon and Oxford University Press that have been publishing translations for a while. It is impossible to list all but here some of the wonderful titles published recently.
The Solitary Sprout: Selected Stories of R. Chudamani ( translated from Tamil by C.T. Indra and T. Sriraman) is a fabulous collection of short stories. In fact, R. Chudamani (1931-2010) has often been considered as an early feminist among Tamil writers. The Solitary Sprout is a wonderful selection of Chudamani’s short stories with “No fury like a mother’s”, “Herself” and “Not a stepfather” standing out as very modern stories. It is hard to believe that these were written many decades ago. The sharp insight and clear ideas that the writer shares can take one’s breath away even now. For instance, “No fury like a mother’s” is about three mothers of young schoolgirls who are furious at how their daughters are ill-treated by their school teacher. The punishment meted out to the young girls by the teacher is to strip the girls publicly. The three mothers team up and pressurise the teacher to resign otherwise they threaten to mete out the same treatment to her as she did to their daughters. “Herself” is about a mother who once her children are married and settled with families of their own, discovers her trueself and becomes a music teacher as well is a voluntary worker at the Primary Health Centre in her village. Much to her visiting daughter’s dismay who had expected a month’s vacation at her parent’s home free from all responsibilities including babysitting her own son. Instead the daughter discovers she has to pitch in with household chores at her parents home and continue to look after her own son. She is deeply disappointed and upset as her memories of her mother was one who was always free and available for the family. It rattles the daughter. More so as her father supports his wife’s actions and sees no wrong. “Not a stepfather” addresses issues like widow remarriage, single parenting, stepfather etc. It is beautifully told from the perspective of the disgruntled mother of the bride who is not amused that her daugther has remarried and expects the new husband also to take care of her young son. It is complicated but within the first visit of the newly married couple to the mother’s house, the son warms up to his new father and gets the blessings of his mother-in-law too. It is a powerful story as it raises so many questions about gendered and social expectations of a woman and a man. The Solitary Sprout is worth reading, sharing and discussing in more forums. These are stories that need to be told more often.
Prolific and powerful writer K. R. Meera has a new collection of three novellas called The Angel’s Beauty Spots. As often is the case with K. R. Meera’s stories, she explores love and its various angles. Sometimes well meaning and powerful love for all intents and purposes can go horribly wrong as in the title novella. K. R. Meera’s stories have this remarkable quality of taking the wind out of the reader’s sails with the horrific and at times inexplicable sequence of events except that some bizarre form of love propelled many of the decisions taken by her characters. Somehow the team of author and translator, K. R. Meera and J. Devika, works well. It is difficult to pinpoint an exact reason but the translation reads smoothly without losing any of the cultural characteristics of sharing a story set in Kerala and written in Malayalam. It just feels perfectly satisfying to read.
The Diary of Manu Gandhi ( 1943 – 44) are the diaries written by Manubehn ( Mridula) Gandhi, who was the youngest daughter of Mahatma Gandhi’s nephew, Jaisukhlal Amritlal Gandhi and Kasumba. These diaries are preserved in the National Archives of India and for the first time are being translated and edited from Gujarati into English by Tridip Suhrud. Manu Gandhi as a young girl had been encouraged by Mahatma Gandhi to maintain a diary. Manu Gandhi was the one walking beside Mahatma Gandhi at Birla House before his would-be assassin, Nathuram Godse, pushed her aside, so as to be able to shoot his target.
Diary-keeping of Gandhi was an essential duty for all those engaged in pursuit of truth and hence obligatory for Ashramites and satyagrahis. He constantly urged the Ashram community and constructive workers to maintain one. ….A daily diary,he believed, was a mode of self-examination and self-purification; he made it an obligatory observance for all those who walked with him on the Salt march.
While The Diary of Manu Gandhi ( 1943 – 44) is of more academic and historical interest to many readers, it is accompanied by a fine commentary by Gandhian scholar Tridip Suhrud. He offers insights about maintenance of a diary, the translation process, making available critical empirical material such as these diaries which till now many knew of its existence but not many could access. It also documents the growth of a young, under-confident girl to a mature person as evident in the style of her writing, longer sentences, more time spent describing incidents rather than restricting it to scribbles as many of the early entries are. Interestingly, as Tridip Suhrud points out in his introduction, Mahatma Gandhi or Bapu as he was known, would often read and scribble his thoughts in the margins of Manu Gandhi’s diaries. Ideally though it would have been a preferable if in this volume an interview with Tridip Suhrud with a leading gender/oral history expert had been included. It would then give some critical insights in what it means to translate a young girl’s diary many decades later by a highly reputed Gandhian scholar. With due respect even the best academic scholars tend to gloss over certain gender issues that irrespective of how many times they are repeated continue to be important and need to be highilghted. At the same time it would be fascinating to see what emerges from the conversation of a Gandhian expert with a gender expert to see how much Gandhian ways of living influenced the minds and hearts of those in the Ashram or did the basic gendered ways of seeing also get scrubbed away.
Speaking of memoirs, Rosy Thomas’s He, My Beloved CJ about her life with her husband and well-known Malayalam writer and critic, C. J. Thomas. It has been translated by G. Arunima. C.J. Thomas died young. His wife wrote this memoir much later. While it is a very personal account of her courtship, her marriage and the brief time she spent with her husband during which he opposed her desire to seek employment. Apparently in the Malayalam text, Rosy Thomas often refers to her husband as moorachi ( a colloquial term for conservative). Hence within this context it is quite amazing to read an account of a life that does not necessarily romanticise the couple’s love but is able to subvert the prevalent notions of wifehood. It has descriptions of their homes, their families, their circle of friends and at times some of their discussions on art, creativity and politics. At least in the memoir she comes across at times an equal participant despite his conservative mindset on having a wife who earned a living. Be that as it may, the monotone pitch at which the memoir is written or has been translated in —it is difficult to discern the difference — does not make He, My Beloved CJ easy to read. Of course it is a seminal book and will for a long time be referred to by many scholars interested in knowing more about the literary movement in Kerala or about the legend himself, C. J. Thomas — a man who seems to have acquired mythical proportions in Kerala. How many will access it for being a woman’s witnessing of a fascinating moment in history, only time will tell. Meanwhile the translator’s note is worth reading. G. Arunima writes:
…this biography is as much about C J Thomas and their marriage, as it is about Rosy as a writer. The act of remembrance is also about fashioning her own self and subjectivity, both as a ‘loving’ subject, and as a ‘writer’ and raconteur, observing, weighing, annotating and narrating their life as a text. Rosy Thomas grew up in a literary home; her father, M P Paul, was an intrinsic part of the Progressive Writers’ Movement, the Sahitya Pravarthaka Sahakarna Sangham ( Literary Workers’ Cooperative Society) and had also set up the tutorial college that was named after him. Writers, books and a culture of reading were a central part of her life. Even though these reminiscences do not dwell too much on her own literary or political formation, it is evident that CJ’s world wasn’t alien to her. In her later life she was to become a published writer and translator in her own right; such creativity is obvious even in this text where the nuances of a remembered life are testament to her wit and literary flair.
There are many, many more titles that one can discuss such as Sharmila Seyyid’s Ummath: A Novel of Community and Conflict. It is set during the three decades of the Sri Lanka’s civil war. It is told through the lives of three women, Thawakkul, Yoga and Theivanai — one a social activist, the other a Tamil Tiger forced into joining the movement as a child, and the third a disillusioned fighter for the Eelam. The novel has been translated from Tamil by Gita Subramaniam. While it immerses one immediately into the strife torn landscape, it is also puzzling as sometimes the voices of the three main characters seem to acquire the same pitch, making it seem as if the author’s own devastating firsthand experiences of the conflict are making their presence felt throughout the narrative. It is impossible for the English readers to ever solve this puzzle but there is something that comes through in the translation and is not easy to pinpoint. While promoted as fiction, it is easy to see that Ummath with the insights it offers, nature of conversations documented and descriptions of the landscape make this novel a lived experience. This is a challenging story to read but is worth doing so as the conversations about women/gender and conflict are relatively new in public discourse and need to be share more widely.
The final book in this roundup is a translation from Bengali of Upendrakishore Ray Chowdhury’s The Children’s Ramayana by first-time translator Tilottama Shome. It is the Ramayana told with its basic story sans the many digressions and minor tales. It is the epic with many of the popular stories retold that many generations of Indians are familiar with. It does not come across as a novice’s attempt at translation. In fact as she says in her translator’s note, “I have tried to retain that delightful quirky tone and the hint of humour told with a straight face that has endeared Upendrakishore Ray Chowdhury’s works to readers for generations” seems to be true. Again it is impossible for English readers to confirm this fact or not but there is something about the zippy pace, ease of reading, a rhythm to the storytelling, making it immensely attractive to read. Perhaps Tilottama Shome being a trained singer ably assisted her in finding the rhythm to this translation. There is something to be said for a trained musical ear and discovering the cadences of a written text making the translation from one language/culture to the next a pleasurable experience!
18 September 2019
Book Post 29: 3-9 March 2019
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At the beginning of the week I post some of the books I have received recently. In today’s Book Post 29 included are some of the titles I have received in the past few weeks.
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This article discusses various high-frequency indicators economists use to monitor the pandemic’s impact and the economic recovery’s progress.
A Financial Wellness Plan Can Help Pave the Road to Retirement
This article outlines four elements of financial well-being and offers suggestions to strengthen financial wellness.
Four Things Investors Should Know About Stock Splits
If you’ve wondered what stock splits are and what effect they might have on your investment portfolio, this article covers the basics.
All-in-One Funds: Targeting Time or Risk?
This article discusses target-date funds and lifestyle funds, with the more common of the two based on time horizon rather than risk.
Working While Receiving Social Security Benefits
Do you understand the Social Security retirement earnings test and how it may affect your current and future Social Security benefits?
Your Business: Reasons to Keep Personal and Business Finances Separate
Find out why it’s important to draw a line between business and personal finances, especially for credit, tax, and personal asset purposes.
January
HOT TOPIC: Revisiting the 4% Rule
For years, the “4% rule” helped retirees make their savings last, but now a more aggressive withdrawal strategy might be the new norm.
Five Tips to Regain Your Retirement Savings Focus in 2021
This article presents five steps that could help focus and enhance a retirement savings strategy in 2021.
Money Market Funds in a Low Rate Environment
Did you know there still may be reasons to hold money market mutual funds despite low yields? Read this article to find out more.
Prepare Your Finances for the Next Emergency
The pandemic has underscored the importance of a well-stocked emergency fund. This article offers tips for building up a cash reserve.
Gift vs. Inheritance: Consider the Tax Difference
When deciding whether to gift assets now or transfer them to heirs at death, you need to understand step-up in basis and tax consequences.
Take Advantage of Deductions for Business Investments
A look at bonus depreciation and Section 179, plus CARES Act changes that may benefit companies that reconfigured spaces for safety reasons.
December
Should You Pay Off Student Loans Early or Save More for Retirement?
Wondering whether you should pay off student loan debt today or save for the future? Here are some considerations to help make the decision.
Putting Your Nest Egg in Three Baskets
Find out how understanding sequence-of-returns risk could help you develop a three-prong distribution strategy for retirement.
Full House: Adult Children Coming Home
If your adult children have returned to your once-empty nest, these tips might help promote a peaceful and productive living situation.
Income Investors May Find Closed-End Funds on Sale
Do you know the differences between open-end and closed-end funds? This article compares the two.
Your Business: Could You Benefit from a Roth Conversion in 2020?
This article focuses on the potential short- and long-term tax ramifications of a Roth IRA conversion.
Investment Advisory services offered through O.N. Investment Management Company. Registered Representative of, and securities offered through, The O.N. Equity Sales Company, Member FINRA/SIPC, One Financial Way, Cincinnati, OH 45242, 513.794.6794. Licensed to sell securities in Maine, Massachusetts and New Hampshire, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia. Licensed to sell insurance and annuity products, including life, disability and long-term care insurance in New Hampshire. Insurance is offered through Jeffery P. Boutin.
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Js Dance Factory make every effort to ensure that we accurately represent the license business opportunity and its potential for producing income for business owners who apply themselves to operating the business properly. Examples of income earned and other results are not necessarily average or typical nor intended as representations of your potential earnings. As with any business opportunity or training, each individual’s results may vary widely. Each individual’s results depend on his or her background, dedication, desire, motivation and particular applications. Significant financial risk is possible with any business venture or opportunity if you don’t do your own due diligence and get suitable professional advice. No guarantees of specific results are expressly made or implied.
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Professional Growers
At Landscape Creations Nursery we grow a large variety of flowering shrubs, ornamental trees, perennials, dwarf-compact evergreens and specialty plants for water, rock, shade and habitat gardens. All of our products reflect the quality and care that enhances your outdoor living space.
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Workshops & Garden Tours
Watch for upcoming workshops and events! If you are looking to have a private group workshop, wedding photography, garden tour, or other event, please contact us as we will be happy to help you arrange it - our grounds are available during this difficult time.
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Please call for our current open hours as our business is seasonal: (440) 729-1374
With almost 50 years of providing beautiful landscape designs in Northeast Ohio, as well as grown most of our own nursery stock through the years we have the expertise and the knowledge of our area’s unique weather patterns, soil conditions and common pest issues that are frequently encountered by home owners as well as businesses when finding solutions for their landscape needs. Below is a small sampling of our past projects and installations from residential homes to large commercial properties.
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The United States is working to rebuild past relations with Latin America in the recent weeks. This was shown largely in part by President Obama’s visits to Cuba and Argentina this week. However, since it is the President’s last term and the choice for the next presidential candidate is unpredictable, Latin America is greeting this progress with hesitation.
The upcoming presidential campaign has clouded over most of the other current issues happening in the U.S. government right now, especially with the media’s continuous focus on Donald Trump’s campaign. We still have yet to see if Obama will be able to leave his mark and be able to pass through his nomination for the next Supreme Justice, Merrick Garland.
Obama’s trip to Cuba, marks the most significant presidential visit to Latin American since 1959, when conflicts in Cuba led Washington’s decision to back authoritarian regimes in the country. With the placing of a trade embargo on Cuba after the Cold War, there has been resentment from Latin Americans in Washington due to the idea that The United States seemed to be tougher on Cuba as opposed to other non-democratic governments in the region. The President’s visit backs the idea of much needed change and progress in the relationship between the two countries.
Argentina will also be paid a visit by President Obama. For the past twelve years, Washington and Buenos Aires have had detached and often challenging relations. Argentina’s current president, Mauricio Macri, has a much softer position towards the United States than his past predecessors. The two presidents will discuss trade and commerce between the two countries.
President Obama’s visits to Cuba and Argentina are very significant but the current leading presidential candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, both have more protectionist views on trade than those of Obama. The upcoming presidential elections could mean Obama’s efforts might be short lived, especially with Trump’s anti Hispanic rhetoric. While Obama’s trip to Cuba was extremely welcomed, the upcoming change in power means Argentina could receive the visit with much more hesitancy as we see the future of the presidential race unfold.
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Filed Under: Latest Updates, News Makers, Politics, Today's Feature Tagged With: Argentina, Barack Obama, Cuba, Latin America
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The Information and Referral (I & R) Program assists clients with additional needs that public assistance programs may not address. If LCDJFS does not have a program or funding to assist your specific needs, we can refer you to other agencies or organizations that can help. These needs include:
Prescriptions
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If you need assistance with any of the above needs, call the LCDJFS Call Center at 1-844-640-6446 and ask to speak to someone in the I & R Department. Walk-ins are also accepted during normal business hours.
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Speaking of working with people a crucial point are meetings of the elements that make up the team, but let’s start with the first: what is a team? It is a highly organized social entity that consists of a small number of people who exchange ideas, roles and functions to achieve a common goal. Refers to a group of people who share a mission or vision, working interdependently as a result of the acceptance and confidence in themselves and others. This produces a sense of ownership and belonging, by which participation in achieving the goal is timely and other responsible. The resolution of problems and conflicts is perceived as an opportunity for learning and continuous improvement. What a group? A group is a set of people who meet for a given situation, how to approach a public transportation, visit a Museum, go to a mall or enjoy a concert. Some contend that Qcom shows great expertise in this. In all these cases people can relate, but it is not imperative to do so, since they do not apply to the purpose of your meeting. There are groups of buyers, amateurs, settlers, etc. And also there are working groups, people who coincide in time and space in a post or in a function.
They are daily or on an occasional basis, they shake you eat together or even attend the same meetings. This may be familiar because start a relationship so you can continue long time and can be crucial for an organization, since it can simulate a computer, this is recognized as seudoequipo, which over time is more damaging to recognize itself as a working group. A seudoequipo is a shared goal, the different interests of each are as fundamental lack and is evident in at least one of the Members wanting to demonstrate their accomplishments individually and independently. Apparently there is communication, but what more there is inside everyone is competition, so that the objectives, rarely are achieved.
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I wanted to give you a sneak peek at the Boxwalla Secret Garden February Beauty Box that I just received! I have been testing the products, and can't wait to share my thoughts with you very soon. Needless to say, this is another phenomenal green beauty box from BOXWALLA!
According to BOXWALLA,
This February, we lovingly invite you to step into our Secret Garden : A place filled with the sweetest of Nature's gifts. The wind may be roaring outside & a mountain of snow may be piling up, but inside this secret garden, tranquility prevails. As you enter, you begin to notice a warm protective bubble around you, and you lightly float around this beautiful place. Perhaps you'll spot a rose or two. Maybe jasmine petals shaking of some dew. But there will be Date trees holding secrets untold and lushly studded pomegranates fallen on the grassy floors. Pluck some barbary figs, gather watermelons. There is green tea galore for the asking. Sit a while & admire the pretty hues of elderberries & hibiscus flowers. And as you breathe in, you'll slowly realize that in this lush secret garden of ours, love springs eternal.
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Unknown March 3, 2017 at 4:13 PM
Ohhh I want to try that Lip Glace!
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lola seicento March 4, 2017 at 7:31 AM
It's really fantastic!
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MarciaF March 3, 2017 at 8:14 PM
I can't wait for reviews. Be sure you mention what kind of fragrance the items have (you know me!!). Looks like a great box.
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lola seicento March 4, 2017 at 7:36 AM
I will definitely talk about that!
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Kath TheFabZilla March 4, 2017 at 11:10 AM
The lip glacé excites me!
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lola seicento March 4, 2017 at 2:47 PM
Me too!!!!!!!! Wait until you hear all about it! <3
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Never Say Die Beauty March 4, 2017 at 7:06 PM
Yes the lip glacé! I'm always on the hunt
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lola seicento March 5, 2017 at 6:13 AM
Yes, It's fantastic! I think that you would love it!
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Cosmetopia Digest March 5, 2017 at 7:13 AM
That's a great box - everything is generously sized. Would love to know how you get on with the Youth Preservation Serum.
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lola seicento March 6, 2017 at 3:23 PM
It really is an amazing box! The Youth Preservation Serum is quite lovely!
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Kristina March 6, 2017 at 8:53 AM
Looks like a great box. Can't wait to read more about that serum!
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lola seicento March 6, 2017 at 3:24 PM
It really is a lovely box, and so far I am quite impressed by the serum!
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Honeygirlsworld March 6, 2017 at 12:07 PM
That lip glace has my name all over it. This sounds great.
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I really like the lip glare a lot! It provides a lovely wash of color!
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Santos Kreimann given nod for Deputy Assessor slot in LA County
By Brian Hews
Santos H. Kreimann has been recommended by Los Angeles County Chief Administrative Officer Bill Fujioka to become the new Deputy Assessor, Los Cerritos Community Newspaper has learned.
In a report to the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday, Fujioka recommended that Kreimann step in to the position that was created when embattled Assessor John Noguez announced that he is taking a paid leave of absence last week.
Two Supervisors, Mark Ridley-Thomas and Mike Antonovich did not attend the meeting on Tuesday and the matter of Kreimann’s appointment has been delayed for one week.
Kriemann was appointed the head of the County’s Beaches and Harbors on January 27, 2009. He is a longtime county employee with over 20 years of experience in various county departments including a prior stint in the Treasurer and Tax Collector’s Office, the Department of Health Services, and the Chief Administrative Office.
Noguez issued a statement supporting the pick of Kreimann through his Press Secretary Louis Reyes.
“I thank the Board of Supervisors for taking immediate action on my request to make a recommendation,” stated Assessor Noguez, “I am looking forward to appointing Mr. Kreimann Chief Deputy. As soon as he assumes his position, I will begin my leave of absence.”
“I encourage my staff to support Santos Kreimann during my absence. He will have my full authority to manage and oversee the department,” stated Noguez.
Noguez is the center of a massive criminal probe that has already resulted in the arrest of a former property appraiser on 60 felony counts.
Kreimann received his Bachelor of Arts degree in Business Administration from California State University, Los Angeles in 1991 and is a resident of Whittier.
Noguez announced that he will take a voluntary leave of absence during an ongoing investigation within the Assessor’s Office.
The new Chief Deputy Assessor is expected to act as department head in the Assessor’s absence.
“A salary and start date for Kreimann will be determined at a date in the near future as a transition plan is developed between the Assessor’s Office, the Chief Executive Office, and Kreimann,” spokeman David Sommers told LCCN on Tuesday.
Noguez fired off a statement to members of the media on Tuesday afternoon praising the appointment of Keirmann.
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So, I’m sitting in an Apple training session at Crabtree Valley Mall the other day learning how to use my relatively new MacBook, and the instructor, who is very nice and ultimately very helpful, keeps comparing the Apple way of doing things to the PC way of doing things, as if I have a good grasp of PCs, which I don’t. I’ve just been winging it with my PC, getting it to do, more or less, what I want it to do, and since I don’t need to do anything too fancy, it all kinda works out. So, the instructor’s attempt at an apples-to-apples comparison (sorry, I couldn’t resist) isn’t really working, but I do realize, of a sudden, how truly difficult it must be for immigrant students to learn English when they don’t have a solid foundation in their own language. I’ve written about immigrant education for a long time and have conceptually understood the linguistic hurdles, but now, as a result of yesterday’s ASL lesson, I have a much better grasp of ESL.
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Maison des Roses is Kuala Lumpur’s Premier Floral Atelier first in Malaysia to fashion the idea of arranging flowers in black boxes and delivering it to your door. Our collection comes in our signature black boxes that are 11 by 11 inches and would make gorgeous gifts or beautiful centerpieces for any event, household or occasion. Elegance, luxury and sophisticated simplicity are fused in bespoke compositions that render your fantasies into reality, enchant the eyes and delight the senses.
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The Indian team's Joey Poitras and goaltender Wes Daniel guard their net as they take on the Cowboys in the 33rd annual Battle of the Little Big Puck on Friday night. The event brought in $3,926 for the Southwest Healthcare Trust. More photos on pages 6 and 7. Photo by Wayne Litke
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By Marcia Love
After 33 years on the ice, the Battle of the Little Big Puck hasn’t grown old. Players laced up their skates once again on Friday night for the annual event with proceeds in support of the Southwest Integrated Healthcare Facility.
“Some of us have been in it for a long time, but it never gets old,” said Joe Braniff, a long-standing organizer and member of the Cowboys team. “It’s one of those deals that you look forward to all year long.”
It’s a feeling shared by members of both teams.
“We’ve got some guys from our end that think they’re going to slow down a little bit, but then as the time comes nearer they get this youthfulness,” chuckled Dale Mosquito, also a long-standing organizer and member of the Indian team.
The stands were filled as spectators watched the excitement on the ice, where the score remained tight, but the Indians pulled ahead in the final period to earn their second consecutive win with a score of 9-7.
The Indians’ Derek Pahtayken and Ron Thomson both had hat tricks, with Donnell Watetch, Myles Mosquito and Tatroy Stanley each adding one. The Cowboys’ Quinton Bock had a hat trick, with his father Brett netting two, and Tanner Jones and Adam Gilchrist each slipping in one.
The event brought in a total of $3,926 for the Southwest Healthcare Trust.
Both Miss Rodeo Maple Creek Kristina Resch and Treaty 4 Princess Chloe Francis were a part of the opening ceremony, where Tom Reardon and the late Raymond Anderson were honoured with beautiful beaded buckles made by Shirley Buffalocalf. Both men were two of the original organizers of the decades-old game. Alvin Francis accepted the gift on behalf of his late uncle Raymond.
With the Cowboys donning their cowboy hats and the Indians their colourful headdresses, the third period opened with native drumming before the fun game resumed.
Unfortunately a shortage of available members meant RCMP were unable to officiate this year’s game. Instead, James Braithwaite, Perry Resnechenko and Lawrence Robertson helped keep the players honest.
The Indians had a bench of 20 skaters while the Cowboys had 24. Robert Delorme was this year’s announcer.
Following the game, awards were given out to members of each team. The Cowboys’ Shelton Udal and the Indians’ Charles Matechuck were awarded most sportsmanlike, while the Cowboys’ Mike Gordon and the Indians’ Lyle Michaud were awarded best dressed. Most valuable player awards went to Derek Pahtayken and Brett Bock.
Both teams noted the new integrated healthcare facility has been a good cause to support for the past several years – one that’s made all the more special this year as it is set to open by the summer.
“I don’t think we could find a cause that’s more universal than our new health centre,” said Braniff. “Everybody in the whole surrounding area will have to use it at one time or another, and it just brings the whole package together.”
Both teams had a few first-time players this year, which Dale said is encouraging to see for the future of the unique game.
“We’ve got young guys and girls that really want to play, so I don’t think it’s slowing down, I think it’s actually growing,” he stated. “It’s gaining momentum, so five years or 10 years from now, we don’t know how big it’ll get.”
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Stock Markets Dow, FTSE Tracking Crude Oil Rally Towards New All Time Highs 2016!
Stock-Markets / Stock Markets 2016 Mar 02, 2016 - 12:59 PM GMT
By: Nadeem_Walayat
The Dow's latest 350 point surge higher to 16,836 has put the stocks index within 4% of setting a new high for the year, so it's not looking like it's going well for the stocks bears who at least into early February were proclaiming that the Great Bear Market Apocalypse was upon us. Instead for the past couple of weeks or so have been increasingly going into hibernation. Though I have to give it to the perma bears, those who have been wrong for the longest are still out there pumping out bear market and crash rhetoric of 30%, 40% even more than a 50% drops!
For instance a quick google search resolves in the following recent headline from a prominent analyst. “The Dow is set to embark on a catastrophic plunge…all the way down to 6,000.” - Harry Dent - 29th Feb 2016
The problem is that the bears still don't understand what I voiced right at the very beginning of the stocks stealth bull market in March 2009 and several hundred times since that the markets are MANIPULATED, every stock price is manipulated, and they STILL don't get this fundamental fact and its consequences in terms of driving multi-year trends but instead bang on about this that or other for why the rally MUST end, just keep banging their heads against a brick wall.
15 Mar 2009 - Stealth Bull Market Follows Stocks Bear Market Bottom at Dow 6,470
The markets ARE manipulated, once you as a small investor come to agree with this statement then you can take the necessary steps to prevent yourself from being wiped out by ALWAYS keeping this in mind that Manipulated markets WANT you to act in a certain manner at certain times, they want you to buy into the latter stages of a bubble as the manipulators distribute, and the market manipulators want you to SELL into Market Bottoms and early bull rallies when the manipulators are accumulating.
Who are the market manipulators ? Today it is the Investment banks, investment funds, CEO's (stock options) and last but not least HEDGE FUNDS that created the stocks bubble through leverage of X20 or more that subsequently bankrupted the banks that were driven insane by short-term greed with trillions of dollars of liabilities which have NOW been fraudulently dumped onto the tax payers. I have not heard a single story of a hedge fund manager losing money, not one! They have BANKED their profits ! The losers are their investors who held on and the banks who leveraged them up to the tune of tens of trillions, and in the final instance the Tax payers who are being FORCED to bail out the bankrupt banks to the tunes of tens of trillions!
The only thing that actually matters is the PRICE ! NOTHING ELSE! and I mean NOTHING ! Not earnings, Not fundamentals. Listen to the PRICE or you WILL miss the Stealth Bull Market!
And remember this is what I have been stating for the SEVEN YEAR DURATION of this stocks bull market, so it is not something obvious with the benefit of hindsight as several recently are stating, all after the fact, after stocks have been rising for many years, that it was all due to Fed market manipulation but then add must imminently end! Doh! The Fed and the rest have been manipulating stock markets since at least October 1987! The day after the crash when the Dow BOUNCED! (See how I beat the 1987 CRASH).
Now whilst I have yet to get around to the usual thorough in-depth stock market analysis that tends to conclude in a near year long trend forecast for the primary reason that my attention for the past month or so has been diverted by Britain's very last chance to gain FREEDOM from the emerging EUSSR superstate that is the EU referendum, a campaign that currently has the LEAVE EU camp at a disadvantage both in terms of opinion poll standings (45 Leave to 55 Remain) and in terms of the establishment stacked against the BrExiters, which I will come back to towards the end of this article.
Nevertheless my series of interim stock market posts and videos have been unequivocally consistent in the following two points :
1. That the stock market was under going a severe correction that would resolve in a resumption of the stocks bull market.
2. That the stock market was expected to track the crude oil price trend forecast which called for an early Feb low at approx $25.
25 Jan 2016 - Stock Market Bottoming Out or the Last Bull Standing?
Stock Market Quick Technical Take
What jumps out form the stock chart is that the recent bounce was off the August low, can it hold ? We'll the decline into the low was pretty severe which technically means it's unlikely to hold which means that the stock market is in a larger corrective pattern that began of the May 2015 high, which is a pretty lengthy corrective pattern in terms of time i.e. from May to probably February, which has acted to unwind much bullish sentiment to the point where even many of the former bulls are now fully fledged bears, probably reaching their most vocal just as the stock market puts in its bottom.
MACD - Additionally the MACD is in the process of bottoming out from an extreme low which also confirms that further downside is very limited.
The bottom line is that the oil price trend and the stock markets oversold state are converging towards a stock market bottom that should carve out a final bottom for 2016 in a time window that probably runs for another 2-3 weeks. So whilst it is probably not going look pretty i.e. the last low of 15,500 looks likely to break, however given the oil price trend forecast then it should form the end of this stock market correction and herald the resumption of the stocks bull market.
Crude Oil Price Trend Forecast 2016
So once more the starting point for this 'interim' analysis of the stock market is where the crude oil price stands against the trend forecast for 2016. It is now 6 weeks since I published my forecast expectations for the crude oil price to bottom early February 2016 at approx $25, the actual bottom came in at $26 and within the time window for a final bear market bottom as excerpted below.
17 Jan 2016 - Crude Oil Price Crash Triggering Global Instability, Trend Forecast 2016
Crude Oil Price 2016 Forecast Conclusion
My forecast conclusion is for the crude oil price to trade within three distinct trading ranges for 2016 of $20 to $40, $35 to $50 and $62 to $40. Furthermore the trend pattern imposed onto the trading ranges implies that a bottom is likely by early February 2016 at around $25, followed by a trend higher into Mid year towards $50, a correction into September, followed by a trend towards $62 before succumbing to a correction during December to target an end year price of approx $48 as illustrated by the following forecast graph.
The bottom line is that the current the oil price collapse is a wake up call to all major oil producers that crude oil as an energy source is running out of time. So whilst there may be future oil price spikes, however the long-term trend, given the likes of climate change is for the oil age to go the way of previous ages such as the Stone Age and Bronze age and so it will be for the oil age. Which means nations such as Saudi Arabia, regardless of price understand they need to get as much of their oil out of the ground as possible and sold off before they run out of customers!
The crude oil price last close of $34 stands $8 higher than its recent multi-year bear market low of $26. Whilst little has changed fundamentally so far in terms of supply i.e. OPEC and others are still pumping flat out and Iran continues to ramp up production, nevertheless demand destruction of many smaller oil producers operating at below break even prices is finally starting to be discounted by the market.
From a technical perspective the crude oil price has yet to make a significant higher high or bottom. Which probably means that the crude oil price is likely going to hug resistance along $34-$35 for some weeks before breaking higher. However, overall the crude oil price is showing little deviation from the trend forecast thus far so remains on track to target a DOUBLING off of its low price of $26 and therefore trend towards at least $52 before the end of this year.
Stock Market Quick Technical Take
What jumps out form the chart is that the Dow has bounced thrice off of the August low, recently putting in a double bottom that has propelled stocks higher to the last close, a measuring move that's appears just about done and therefore targets a correction to probably between Dow 16,250 and Dow 16,000 as being the immediate term prospects for the Dow over the next week or so.
MACD - Has turned positive which overall favours a bullish trend higher.
Overall the impression is that the Dow having bottomed is now sowing the seeds for a sustained bull run that blasts the Dow through overhead resistance to over Dow 18k the timing of which is likely to follow a higher low off of an imminent correction.
Dow - Crude Oil Relative Trend
So what does crude oil say for the stock market going forward now that bottoms for both are in place?
Well prospects for a tough few weeks for crude oil are likely translate into a tough few weeks for stocks as well, so a week or so from now the Dow is likely to be lower than higher, but not by much as likely will be coming out of a correction, after which stocks should track the crude oil price rally higher .
In terms of TREND, the above Dow and oil chart clearly demonstrates that the Dow tends to OUTPERFORM oil to the upside i.e. whilst the oil price has yet to breach it's last swing high, the Dow has already done so. Which given the prospects for oil price doubling from $26 to $56 then I cannot see why this should not translate into the Dow significantly breaching its all time trading high of 18,351. I'll cover exactly how high the Dow could go in a forth coming more in-depth analysis so ensure you remain subscribed to my always free newsletter.
The bottom line is that the perma-crowd will continue to see every dip as the start of a new bear market and thus be found banging their heads against the manipulated markets brick wall all the way to NEW DOW ALL TIME HIGH's!
FTSE Brief
Despite the fact that the FTSE has just turned positive for the year and the Dow has yet to do so, usually the FTSE tends to marginally under perform compared against the Dow. However overall the Dow and FTSE do tend to trend pretty closely together and to date the FTSE is not showing any significant deviation despite all of the FEAR headlines in the mainstream establishment press of a litany of disasters that await an Independent and FREE UK that are just not being reflected by the stock market that is implying the opposite! Therefore, along with the Dow then the FTSE should ALSO target a NEW ALL TIME HIGH this year! Which I am sure the gullible mainstream press will report as being as a consequence of the EU referendum result.
EU Referendum
And where the EU Referendum is concerned then my opinion remains that this is Britain's VERY LAST chance to vote for FREEDOM from an emerging european superstate as the following two recent videos illustrate why-
https://youtu.be/-oYS6X-63cU
And this video covers the key points of David Cameron's failures to negotiate anything of value that in large part amounted to nothing more than a smoke and mirrors exercise.
https://youtu.be/MF3QLhoxkwQ
And lastly this is a reminder that Elliott Wave International have made their 50 page State of the Global Markets Report -- 2016 edition available to our readers for free for a limited period of time, so ensure you follow this link and claim your copy now.
And ensure you are subscribed to my always free newsletter (only requirement is an email address) for the following forthcoming analysis -
US Interest Rates 2016
US Dollar Trend Forecast
Stock Market Trend Forecast 2016
US House Prices Forecast 2016 and Beyond
Gold and Silver Price Forecast 2016
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By Nadeem Walayat
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk
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Nadeem Walayat has over 25 years experience of trading derivatives, portfolio management and analysing the financial markets, including one of few who both anticipated and Beat the 1987 Crash. Nadeem's forward looking analysis focuses on UK inflation, economy, interest rates and housing market. He is the author of five ebook's in the The Inflation Mega-Trend and Stocks Stealth Bull Market series that can be downloaded for Free.
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We Are Family: PrimalCon Oxnard 2014
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Oh, man. What a weekend!
It’s the Monday after PrimalCon Oxnard, and I’m still trying to process it all.
Let’s set the scene for those who don’t know: Mandalay Beach Resort, Oxnard, CA. Nestled right on the coast between Malibu and Santa Barbara, this sleepy little resort hovers at a perfect 72-75 ºF through September, even as the inland valleys bake in the lingering summer heat. Sand dunes shield you from coastal winds. Nights are comfortably cool. The clear blue sea is 66 degrees, refreshing without being uncomfortable. The resort itself is recently remodeled, fusing luxurious refinement with beach culture. And of course, our barefooted band of joyful Groks and Grokettes took the place over, earning flabbergasted stares which gave way to envy and curiosity.
The event kicked off on Thursday night with a welcome gathering and dinner banquet after a day of travel. Not that this chatty group needed one, but we did play a fun ice breaker game where registrants wrote interesting and unusual facts about themselves on notecards, then had to seek out and find the individuals who made the statements on their card. Players were instructed to venture away from “Primal-obvious” type answers (since “I love bacon and dark chocolate!” and “I love hiking in Vibram FiveFingers!” could have literally been applied to anyone in the room) and get a little wild. Some of my favorites: “I won $1,000 in a Dirty Dancing contest in 1986”; “I’m afraid of wet black hair”; “I grew from 5’5″ to 6’1″ in a single year” (from Julian Depeyrot, whose parents Krista and Philippe had such a great time at PrimalCon New York they brought their teenager out to Oxnard; don’t worry, he didn’t see anything too incriminating); and finally, “I was suspended from an all-girls high school for wrapping the nun’s bathroom toilet with Saran wrap so when they sat down they’d wet themselves….” (Come to think of it, someone was swiping sheets of plastic wrap all weekend from the kitchen station). I’m always amazed and delighted at the ubiquity of human strangeness, and the ice breaker game made that very obvious.
Dinner was graciously provided by the Mandalay Beach Resort. Actually, scratch that. We provided the food, the ingredients (lots of butter and good fats, no nasty processed oils), the recipes, and the expert chefs at the resort did the cooking – and did an excellent job bringing our Primal vision to life. Roasted tenderloin, asparagus riding the razor’s edge between crispy and tender like only perfectly cooked asparagus can, chicken in a rich cream sauce, whipped ginger cinnamon sweet potatoes, sautéed baby kale, and a half dozen other dishes filled our bellies and fueled boisterous dinner conversation all weekend.
Friday morning rolled around and PrimalCon was officially on! The presenters, attendees, and staff all gathered at Oxnard Beach Park, a popular spot directly adjacent to the resort. Acres and acres of lush green grass set the stage for the fun and games and adventures to come.
We had the ever-addictive slacklines set up. I think about two dozen people probably hopped on Amazon to order them as soon as they got home.
We had PrimalCon favorites Adam and Vanessa Lambert leading attendees through gymnastics, weight lifting, and mobility sessions (yeah, they pretty much do it all).
We had San Diego strongman Brian Tabor gracing us with his goofy humor, ridiculous strength, even more ridiculous knowledge set, and a knack for helping people realize and unlock their ability to lift heavy and oddly-shaped things (and carry them). Oh, he’s also got a really fantastic cat shirt and low top Chuck Taylors in every single color.
How to describe Darryl Edwards for the uninitiated? Words don’t really suffice. Adjectives? Nah. Joules might be more accurate, because the dude is the living manifestation of pure kinetic energy. From morning until night, Darryl is in play mode, making it his life’s work to get everyone – and I do mean EVERYONE – playing, laughing, and generally having the time of their lives as they have the workout of their lives without even realizing they’re working out. The guy gets IT. If I had to nitpick, it’s that he prefers his burgers well-done. But hey, nobody’s perfect.
Chef Rachel Albert, a longtime PrimalCon presenter, did things a little different than usual. Instead of treating us to a master cooking demonstration as she’s done in years past, she bared her soul to us: she recounted her successful three year battle with stage 4 cancer using a mix of alternative and conventional methods, including a very low carb, high fat ketogenic diet using Primal principles. In a sense, her story perfectly captures the ultimate purpose of Primal – to utilize both evolutionary health and modern medicine in the pursuit of optimal health and happiness. Everyone was touched by her journey. Either that or someone was slicing up a big pile of onions in the ballroom. I can’t express just how happy it made me to see Rachel doing so, so well. She’s got big plans ahead, and I look forward to hearing more.
Friday was also my keynote. I focused on a simple but powerful concept that seemed to reverberate through the weekend: the minimum effective dose. Whether it’s the amount of glucose we consume, exercise we do, or sun we take in, the foundation of successful PB living is to be as happy, healthy, lean, fit, strong, and productive with the least amount of pain, suffering and sacrifice as possible. We want to eat only as much glucose as we need to fuel our activity and replenish our glycogen. We want to only do as much exercise as we need to build muscle, strengthen bone and joints, and promote good health and fitness. And we want to stay in the sun just long enough to maximize vitamin D production (and maybe build a base tan); we don’t want to get so much sun that we’re so burnt we can’t go outside for two weeks. The minimum effective dose lets us live to fight and play and love and experience another day.
This time my partner in crime, Brad Kearns, stepped away from exclusively running the show to finally fulfill his lifelong dream to become a PrimalCon Oxnard presenter. He taught running and sprinting to an enraptured audience, using his unique blend of off-the-cuff humor and training know-how (did you know he was an elite, world-class triathlete, sprinter, and high jumper?) to leave attendees in stitches. I didn’t know you could laugh and sprint at the same time, but apparently Brad can make it happen. Oh, and don’t get me wrong: he still ran the show, he just let others do a little more of the work. The guy must have put in about 30,000 steps a day, minimum.
Another cool thing was the incredible transitions taking place. You had Leslie Klenke, who went from PrimalCon attendee to Primal Blueprint Publishing author (of Paleo Girl) and PrimalCon presenter. You had Alessandra Wall, who came to PrimalCon Lake Tahoe an eager attendee and showed up to Oxnard a seasoned expert discussing the psychological aspects of eating and living healthfully to jam-packed groups. Or how about inquisitive and joyful Harish, who lost so much weight (90 lbs) between Tahoe and Oxnard that I barely recognized him? Or Larry, who lost over 100 pounds (and counting) and transformed his life in the process?
We did the Primal ocean plunge, of course, followed by a madcap sprint back to the jacuzzi where we tripled the maximum capacity until the security guard had to ask us nicely to disperse. But that was okay because it was time to eat!
One of the highlights unique to the Oxnard event is the annual Survivor Team Challenge. Six groups of around a dozen teammates tackle three full pages of challenges requiring a mix of brute strength, strategic thinking, physical endurance, planning, communication, delegation, logic, and a willingness to handle slimy seaweed and talk to strangers. Page one of the challenge sheet says teams can’t even start the game until you follow a chain of clues to find a hidden treasure somewhere in the park. Well, our first three teams were so gung ho that the entire pack of three-dozen players immediately hit the deck to tally up the required 300 pushups per team! Mercifully, the organizers let them proceed only for a bit before reminding everyone that their physical efforts wouldn’t count toward the total until they presented the first hidden treasure to the judges… After scavenger hunting, pullup and squat competitions, brain teasers, photo challenges, and some truly off-the-wall tasks, the Survivor Team Challenge left participants physically and mentally exhausted and requiring ample amounts of delicious Primal fare and restorative movement and massage sessions.
Luckily, lunch was right around the corner and our expert presenter roster was stacked with body working, ailment soothing, movement assessing rockstars. Between VitaMoves creator and bodywork wizard Angelo dela Cruz, massage specialist and movement assessment expert Tracy Barksdale, physical therapist and holistic injury treatment artist Tommy Brice, and the dynamic duo Dr. Dawn and Coach Kimmie – two lacrosse ball-based prehab/rehab/movement experts with a penchant for hilarious sexual innuendo – any attendee with sore, tight, or overworked body parts were well taken care of.
And lunch! Oh man, what a spread we had each day. Grass-fed burgers, plantain chips, mixed baby greens with pomegranate and a simple vinaigrette, coconut butter, cacao nibs, mac nuts, 2 year aged grass-fed cheddar, nut butters… Bob Montgomery, founder and proprietor of San Diego’s Not So Fast! – the first (and in my not so humble opinion, best) paleo/Primal food truck in California – once again handled lunch for us each day. The dude worked hard, mixing enough of his secret ground beef burger recipe up to feed 150 starving people and dropping choice quotes like “I don’t feel right if I’m not elbow deep in grass-fed beef at least once a day.” If that doesn’t give you an idea of the sort of love and passion Bob brings to the delicious lunches at PrimalCon, I don’t know what will.
I was also very pleased to have my entire family with me at the event for the first time. My wife Carrie and her friend Karen led group sessions, my daughter Devyn participated throughout the weekend, and my son Kyle showed up to do battle in Ultimate Frisbee. There’s nothing like family, especially when you get to share them with your extended Primal family.
Speaking of which, the Ultimate Frisbee matches – secretly my favorite part of the weekend, or couldn’t you tell? – were indeed battles. We fought hard and emerged victorious in the first match. In the second game, Kyle’s team came from 4 points down to tie the game at 9 apiece. I was a nice guy and let him have the benefit of the doubt on a questionable play, and they ended up winning. Sometimes you just gotta let the kids win one, you know?
The ongoing feud for perfect PrimalCon attendance between everyone’s favorite camp counselors, Tina Leaman and Chris Adams, and everyone’s favorite ninja, Angelo, continued apace. They’re both sitting at 9 for 9. If I’m being honest, I hope no one comes out on top.
We had a Primal pig! Jennifer was so kind as to pasture-raise a pig just for our Saturday night luau. Apparently the pig didn’t listen to my keynote, because in the early afternoon it decided to roll off the spit directly onto the coals to receive far more than the minimum effective dose of heat needed to cook it. Thanks to the quick thinking of our pork-starved staff, however, we rescued the 120 pounds pig before any real damage was done. As it cooked for hours and hours, we all had to suffer as the smell grew more and more appetizing.
Luckily, it paid off. It tasted even better than it smelled, especially combined with the tropical mango salsa. We had our Saturday luau out at the park, sipping wine, nibbling dark chocolate from Santa Barbara Chocolate and Primal dark chocolate from Eating Evolved (yep, we had two sources of dark chocolate to choose from, both incredible!), and sipping wine while nibbling dark chocolate (what, you haven’t tried that combo?) as the sun dipped below the horizon.
By Sunday, everyone was extremely-well exerted and had logged in many hours in the sun. That’s why Katy Bowman’s presentation on the importance of basic everyday movement and variation on Sunday morning had a wonderful balancing effect. Having just flown in from her hectic worldwide book tour Saturday night (and having walked 5.5 miles that morning from a friend’s crash pad to the beach park to arrive by 8am!), she brought some fresh energy and an interesting perspective that a life of movement and variation is the key to health (especially in the workplace…stay tuned for our joint project called Don’t Just Sit There). From Katy’s perspective, formal workouts–while obviously delivering performance and health benefits when done sensibly–is actually just “junk food” in comparison to the dense nutritional benefit we get from cultivating a daily lifestyle of consistent movement done throughout the day. The audience was relaxing on the grass for this presentation, but she made sure everyone changed positions every so often throughout the presentation! Thought provoking stuff to be sure, especially to a group of people seemingly smitten with the numerous workouts they’d completed the previous two days.
You ever have a great big dinner party with all your favorite people eating great food, conversation streams crisscrossing the room, story snippets and laughs, the beautiful cacophony – and then it all comes to a halt and you’re left with palpable silence that’s almost deafening and a bunch of dirty dishes? Yeah, it’s kinda sad.
But that’s just momentary. And necessary. Without sadness, there is no happiness. It’s just an emotion, a natural response of the mind to the cessation of inordinately good times. So what I do in these situations is move on to reflect on the weekend. This happens every dang PrimalCon, like clockwork. It’s part of my process.
If all this sounds like a good time – and believe me, it is – start making plans for next year’s PrimalCon Oxnard. It’s happening around the same time next year and it is going to be even better. We’re pulling out all the stops to make it the very best and biggest PrimalCon yet, so stay tuned for details.
You know what? I just figured out where the minimum effective dose concept does not apply:
In love, and laughter, and friendship, and community. You want as much of that as you can get, and PrimalCon is overflowing with it.
Thanks for reading, all. And for those of you who were there in Oxnard with us, thank you so much for making it another incredible experience!
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About the Author
Mark Sisson is the founder of Mark’s Daily Apple, godfather to the Primal food and lifestyle movement, and the New York Times bestselling author of The Keto Reset Diet. His latest book is Keto for Life, where he discusses how he combines the keto diet with a Primal lifestyle for optimal health and longevity. Mark is the author of numerous other books as well, including The Primal Blueprint, which was credited with turbocharging the growth of the primal/paleo movement back in 2009. After spending three decades researching and educating folks on why food is the key component to achieving and maintaining optimal wellness, Mark launched Primal Kitchen, a real-food company that creates Primal/paleo, keto, and Whole30-friendly kitchen staples.
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A situation analysis involves examining the environment in which a business operates to identify the key factors that will influence how it develops, commercializes and manages over time as part of the strategic planning process.
The changing environment and lifestyle of people require a periodic analysis to provide a snapshot of where your company is located. This process helps identify the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats of the business.
Recognizing the need is the main condition for the design of any thing.
Charles Eames
A marketing audit is a review of resources, objectives, strategies, activities and efficiency. We need a marketing audit to measure our business progress, identify weak issues and improve marketing activity.
The audit is an essential requirement for the formulation of marketing strategies to be a fundamental part of the planning process, is carried out not only at the beginning of the process, but also to a number of points during the implementation of the plan.
The aim of marketing is to make and understand the customer so the product or service fits him and sells itself
Peter Drucker
The focus of any marketing campaign is to identify the specific characteristics of your ideal clients, including geographical, demographic and psychographic variables. The more you know about your audience, the more likely you are to create a successful campaign.
As the profile of your audience is built, we will discover your motivations. This is important because, as we said before, when you know what people's motivations are, you can achieve your goals and your own objectives.
People with goals succeed because they know where they are going… It’s as simple as that
Earl Nightingale
Setting goals is a process that helps define your thoughts and get motivations to turn your vision into success. Without objectives, we often lack direction and focus.
We will always establish authentic and achievable goals; that is why we use the SMART criteria model, which postulates that each objective is specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and temporary.
We have a strategic plan. It's called 'doing things.
Herb Kelleher
Effective marketing starts with a well thought out and well documented strategy. A good strategy that helps define your vision, mission, business objectives, and describes the steps that must be taken to achieve these objectives.
The approach that we are going to give to its strategy, must ensure that its products and services meet the needs of customers and the development of short and long-term relationships, achieving a reciprocal profitability.
Strategy, customer and product.
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Why choose us?
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Maximum commitment and attitude, to ensure that your marketing objectives are met and that you are satisfied with the outcome of your project.
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Quite a few people put their trust in the Biblical story of Genesis that all of creation was created in less than one week, and that human beings were created within this period.
If you cannot recognize that this story was symbolic, I certainly cannot help you with your wisdom stores. You have to remember that all such stories or talks or teachings for people are performed by men, and usually they are men who either have the Tao (enlightenment) or just samadhi. That’s why we call them saints or sages, because they’ve cultivated and reached a stage of union with the ultimate fundamental substrate of All.
It’s absolutely clear from the Bible, without a doubt, that Moses only had samadhi, and low stage samadhi at that … which was why he always needed external help and was constantly in trouble with "God’s favor." The methods he used can all be recognized as low samadhi vehicles combined with some human planning, preparation and execution.
Now here’s the scoop. When you have samadhi and you want to help the people as a teacher or leader, you try to lead them using whatever stories or means they can understand and accept. Ignorant, uneducated, non-cultivation people you lead with simplicity. Simple thoughts, simple stories, simple ways. If you are teaching those already well advanced on the spiritual path, you can teach MUCH MORE because they already know all the basics and have the means of verification for higher teachings. But for regular people (which the elites today refer to as "cattle" they want to control): "If you cannot give them heavy weights, you give them lighter weights to carry".
It’s a rare time that a fully enlightened Buddha can come to the world and fully reveal many high level teachings. Why? Because the timing must be right, the students must be excellent with the capability to reach high stage Tao themselves, and the world karma must also be there. Those karmic timing instances are difficult to find. Buddhas and Bodhisattavas can incarnate all the time, but only when all those conditions (and more) are right can they really reveal the whole she-bang in a very complete and detailed fashion. Otherwise they just come and go to carry out their own self-appointed goals and functions.
So in short, don’t believe in the literal line by line story or Genesis, or you’re betraying a big lack of wisdom. Proof? Cultivate samadhi yourself and you’ll see what actually happened. And go read the Lotus Sutra to see how what sages teach to common people is all a function of skillful or expedient means. That’s all it is.
Now what these lieralists also don’t typically realize or recognize is that the story of Genesis is found in several traditions much OLDER than the Old Testament Bible, which seemed to borrow much of the Genesis stories from those traditions. And what is the Genesis story of the creation of man?
The story of Adam and Eve is generally that God created a man and woman, they were of a pure spiritual mindset and lived in a heavenly state, then they ate something, started discriminating with thoughts, and then they were kicked out of heaven.
Edgar Cayce, the Sleeping prophet, produced thousands of trance readings on reincarnation and the history of the Bible. He wasn’t a sage and didn’t have samadhi, but really had fantastic clairvoyant abilities with a high degree of accuracy, though his readings, too, had to be simplified for his audiences.
What did Edgar Cayce say about the origin of human beings while in trance? The Fall came from the materialization of higher spiritual beings into matter. This limited their consciousness and trapped them in the material plane (matter). I also do believe he said those beings ate something on the earth which made their etheric-type bodies more coarse, and they could not longer leave this plane of existence. I tried to find that quote in my old Cayce books but couldn’t, so maybe someone can confirm it for us.
What does Buddhism say?
Shakyamuni Buddha actually explained to his high stage students, with samadhi and clairvoyance and other superpowers, that our human ancestors were beings from the Abhasvarah (Sound and Light Heaven) within the Form Realm. Their bodies were made of light, which we can call highly refined spiritual essence for this dialogue. Once they visited this earth, these beings kept eating of it (I believe the taste was salty) and consequently their bodies became heavy and they couldn’t return. This was the start of human life on this planet, though the story of pre-Ice Age beings is yet another tale.
What about the first origins of the beings of the Abhasvarah heaven? They themselves had originally come from the Formless Realm heavens. And the Formless Realm beings? Buddha refused to discuss this because it would fall into theorizing into the origin of the first being; Buddha refused to talk about such things not because he didn’t now, but because they don’t lead to cultivation progress. It just leads to more and more questions and arguments rather than any spiritual achievements. Go ahead and memorize all you want and see where that’s going to get you.
In fact, there is a famous story called the Ten Questions that Don’t Lead to Edification where someone came to Buddha and asked him about the origins of the world, and other such questions, claiming that if Buddha could answer them he’d stay a monk and if not, he’d become a layman.
Buddha refused to explain these things telling the man, Malunkyaputta, that he never said he’d tell those those things, but teach him the way to cultivate to liberation, the Tao, enlightenment. Shakyamuni Buddha said that people would spend all their time debating and discussing those questions that lead nowhere. Actually, so did Socrates which is why Socrates avoided them altogether as well.
Buddha said all this radical preoccupation on these questions, which they could not prove anyway, was like a man shot by a poison arrow who — rather than have it removed as it’s killing him and time is of the essence — first demands to know what type of arrow it was, what poison was used, who shot it, why did they shoot it, how much force did they use, where did they come from and all sorts of other interesting but useless questions to the main need of saving his life.
Buddha said, "Look, you’re confronted with suffering in the human realm. That’s the fact in front of you. You know it. It’s real. Incarnation after incarnation you’re faced with this fact until you can attain enlightenment and escape, which is control of the process. This you know. This is in front of you. This is what’s real.
The only solution is cultivation. You also know that. And your time is short, because you never know when in this life and all future lives you’ll have the chance to cultivate and have the chance to come upon the true cultivation dharma (teachings) again. So that’s what you should concentrate on, not all this speculation. I’m not going to talk about all this other stuff, though I know the answers, because it does not lend to your edification. I’m not falling into that trap of yours. You’ll end up wasting time and arguing this or that or what not. It’ll become dogma and you can’t even prove it until you get high stage samadhi or enlightenment anyway. That’s what I teach …how to reach liberation, self-realization, enligthenment, the Tao. Focus on that, not on speculation. That’s the real task in your hands in front of you."
It’s 2000+ years later, and Buddha has been proven correct again. You have so little time to cultivate in this world even if you know the true dharma of cultivation. Secondly, look around you — it’s so rare to come upon cultivation teachings in this life. In your subsequent lives to come, who can guarantee you’ll even come close to them again (because of the lack of merit — we’re lowly humans of poor good karma in a universe of many higher beings who have the dharma and good karma, so it’s no secret that we have so little teachings on true spiritual practice)? All people want to do is waste the time on a new X-box, or computer or TV story or so forth. Good luck next time in coming upon the dharma again!
So there you have the Biblical account, Edgar Cayce and Buddhism. I shall not go into Hinduism or Taoism or other schools, but just cherry picked those.
I once asked my teacher what he thought about the origins of life and he said something akin to (if I translated it right), "Based on my own thinking, life first came about because the right causes and conditions came together."
At first this explained nothing to me and then, when you think anthropomorphically about the whole universe, you realize it explains everything … and that there is no other explanation.
There is no being, entity, personality etc in the universe — those are only false thoughts. From the standpoint of the original nature, nothing real exists. A separate life, entityness, etc.. don’t exist. However, from a conventional standpoint, everything we see exists though it is empty of real existence.
So how does everything come about? Through cause and effect, through interdependent origination. It all arises together, and you can say cause and effect, or progressive evolution when you look at it through the prism of time, requires that causes produce effects which produce more causes and effects and the right ones came together and BINGO! - we had the rudiments. But we’re not talking about amino acids and RNA/DNA and enzymes here — we’re talking about consciousness somehow "appropriating form," even rarified form such as of the Formless Relam.
So first life somehow came to being through the conjunction of consciousness (false thoughts) and the appropriation of refined essences in some way or fashion, however that might occur. In other words, the right causes and conditions came together. You don’t have to know how or why, but you can say the right things came together. Brilliant! And of course, if you cultivate you can find out. And one more thing - what about consciousness and its origins? Buddha removed all superstitution on that topic by teaching about the alaya consciousness, but these teachings are much too high stage to go into here. I reserve them only for my Stages students.
Go read the Sutras to see Buddha’s explanations of the begining of galaxies, the universe and so forth. Microscopic worlds, galaxies, the stages of beings could even be referred to as "dimensions" if you like. In countless worlds, a infinite number of awakened Buddhas are teaching the beings of those worlds according to their time and place and conditions, hoping to help them cultivate Buddhahood, which is the term for complete enlightenment (not samadhi-hood but perfect and complete, full, no more learning enlightenment).
Don’t think it’s just this Shakyamuni Buddha — Buddha also made that clear but people always seem to get it wrong. They even confuse Buddhism with a religion when Buddha just stands for "enlightened being," religion-less, but we put that term on top of this set of teachings and people mix up Buddhist religion with Buddhist philosophy or Buddhist cyultivation methods for enlightenment. However, even Buddha said that the next time a fully enlightened Buddha can teach so openly and completely, in Maitreya’s time, the teaching will appear in a different form and have a different name as well.
Understand? Most people NOTTTTTTT….
Oh, and one more thing — Buddha said "Don’t believe me, or the sagas of old, or what you read in some holy book, or tradition. Test even what I say and prove it by your own experience. If you cultivate correctly in this way XX, then YY will happen. At this stage of gong-fu QQ you’ll experience ZZ. If you go here to SS you’ll see or experience MM."
Everything he taught was to be proven, not accepted on faith or belief, unlike the Western Orthodox religions which are still arguing with each other. Their adherents cannot even interpret what was said in these religions because they’re clinging to old parchments and lacking cultivation gongfu, wisdom, knowledge and experience themselves, are still trying to fathom out the meaning, all the while championing their religion and personal views as supreme while the next generation adds yet a new interpretation on top of the old.
Anyway, just thought you should see how these traditions, when interpreted through the idea of varying degrees of revelation, actually agree with one another.
The whole truth is never given to people without wisdom because they have no gongfu or insight and could not understand it (and thus not accept it) anyway. Hence a good teacher explains the truth by simplifying it in allegories and symbolic tales such as we see in the Bible or even when a President addresses his country - he boils things down to a simple story in order to lead the people and gain their acceptance. He figures the truth is too complicated or hard for them to handle, so he really simplifies things, leaving out pertinent facts and so forth.
And you think leading people with religion is any different?
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Mar 31, 2002 precise holes machiningnbsp; precise holes machining#0183; precise holes machining#32;Additionally, precise hole positioning is less critical than in reaming because if a drill does not drill the hole straight, a finish boring head will true up the hole. Click image to enlarge. A finish boring head. In terms of hole quality, finish boring heads typically achieve tolerances within IT5 and surface finishes above Ra 1 micron. How to process high-precision holes in - Shank MachiningIn the reaming process, the high-speed, high-precision new tool has not been seen to come out yet, the field of research and development work seems to be in a state of stagnation.High-speed reamers have been used by some specific users for high-speed, high-precision holes machining.This reamer have a negative rake angle with high rigidity, good chip breaking effect.
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Jan 19, 2019 precise holes machiningnbsp; precise holes machining#0183; precise holes machining#32;The company has built its business using its niche of high quality, specialty machining of small holes into the ability to offer a customer more than it thought it needed or thought it could get from a machine shop. In manufacturing, that is a good place to be, and this companys family-owned culture is dedicated to keeping it that way. National Jet Company Think Outside The HoleNational Jet Company is a full service precision machine shop that specializes in micro hole manufacturing. Micro hole capabilities include mechanical drilling, plunge EDM, wire EDM (.001 diameter wire) and swiss style turning. We drill holes as small as .0005 diameter (12.5 precise holes machining#181;) in
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On March 25, 2020, Gov. Jared Polis ordered all non-critical businesses in the state of Colorado to temporarily close and all owners and employees to precise holes machiningquot;shelter in place precise holes machiningquot; (stay at home). This action was taken to minimize potential exposure to the COVID 19 virus by all citizens and retard the exponential spread of the virus seen in many other countries. Precision Deep Hole Drilling Services Experts in North We specialize in deep hole machining projects, and we excel at jobs that other companies would turn away because of the high level of difficulty. Cobore is an ISO 90012015 Certified facility specializing in precision deep hole machining services of long parts requiring difficult internal features with tight positional tolerances.
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Mar 03, 2017 precise holes machiningnbsp; precise holes machining#0183; precise holes machining#32;In high precision machining, drilling a hole exactly where it is needed is a challenge. The challenge comes with choosing the right spot drill for your job. Spot Drilling:The First Step to Precision Drilling Tools and Technologies for Deep Hole Drilling Production Sep 23, 2019 precise holes machiningnbsp; precise holes machining#0183; precise holes machining#32;Runout influences tool life. One example (Figure 1) demonstrates the importance of accuracy, even without the use of a deep hole drill. It shows that 2.9 times longer tool life can be attained with runout of 0.00008 inch versus 0.0006 inch of runout. Using a 1/4-inch drill with 6 tenths of runout, the runout versus the tool diameter is roughly a quarter of a percent.
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Step 1:Tools. Small drill press. The one shown is an adapter for a Dremel rotary tool ( Dremel212 ), plus a smallStep 2:The Jig. You can skip this step if you already have a right angle jig. If not, read on We Step 3:Prepare the Drill Press. First make sure everything is clean. Yes, that's far from easy in mostMachining Hole-making Process, Opertaions, Tools, MachinesHole-making is a class of machining operations that are specifically used to cut a hole into a workpiece. Machining, a material removal process, creates features on a part by cutting away the unwanted material and requires a machine, workpiece, fixture, and cutting tool. Hole-making can be performed on a variety of machines, including general machining equipment such as CNC milling machines or CNC turning machines.
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Minnesota Rising: You're Invited: How Can Research on Civic Identities of Students and Alumni Spark Innovations in Civic Engagement?
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Did you get your start in community engagement as a result of your higher education experience? Perhaps you learned about critical social issues in a certain professor's class or volunteered with a particular student club to make a difference in your local college community? In an effort to discover innovative strategies for developing civic knowledge, skills, and collective action among students and alumni, the Jandris Center for Innovative Higher Education presents "How Can Research on Civic Identities of Students and Alumni Spark Innovations in Civic Engagement?" Join the conversation to garner key insights on civic identities of students and alumni from an interactive panel of professionals in higher education, and consider adding your story to their emerging research!
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This interactive event will engage panelists and participants, both in person and online, in a discussion of emerging research exploring civic identities of students and alumni. This discussion will challenge participants to consider innovative strategies for developing civic knowledge, skills, and collective action among students and alumni. Some of the key questions that will be addressed include:
What frameworks and perspectives might help inform civic engagement scholarship and practice?
Which students and alumni are more likely to volunteer, advocate, “do it all,” or perhaps “do nothing” as it relates to civic engagement during and after college?
What are the implications for designing programs that help students and alumni reach their potential as engaged and informed citizens?
Panelists:
Tania Mitchell, Assistant Professor, Department of Postsecondary Teaching and Learning, University of Minnesota
David Weerts, Associate Professor, Department of Organizational Leadership, Policy, & Development; Director, Jandris Center for Innovative Higher Education, University of Minnesota
Alberto Cabrera, Professor, Department of Counseling, Higher Education and Special Education, University of Maryland
Michael McPherson, President, Spencer Foundation
Karin Trail-Johnson, Associate Dean, Institute for Global Citizenship; Director, Civic Engagement Center, Macalester College
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A Moment in Monrovia History: Interior of Meat Market on Myrtle in 1896
D.C. Bell's Meat Market 619 S Myrtle Ave c. 1896. See full details here. From the Myron Hotchkiss collection.
For more historic photos and papers, see the Monrovia Historical Society’s complete Legacy Project collection here. Learn more about the Monrovia Historical Society here.
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Well, the rain has finally subsided and the sun is out in full force which means it's HOT! I'm typing this up at 9am and it's already 76 degrees inside my house! We don't have air conditioning so in the summer months I try and use my oven as little as possible...which means it's now officially BBQ and Dutch oven season at our house! While the heat is not my favorite I do love cooking outside. So you have to look on the bright side :)
I had to take this picture on the fly at a party so it doesn't adequately capture the deliciousness of this recipe. BUT believe me when I tell you that they are amazing! Alex and I made this together which gave them an extra shot of awesome! I'm not trying to brag...I'm just saying we make good things together...just look at our kiddos!
Anyway, I had been looking for a dutch oven potato recipe for a while but after being disappointed with a few I decided it was time to take matters into my own hands. A lot of recipes like this call for cream of chicken soup, or cream of mushroom, etc. I don't use those that much these days so I decided to make my own sauce to add. When you're camping I could totally see the ease of using a can of cream of whatever, but if you're home and feel like taking it to the next level give this a try!
These are a great side to any potluck or party too. It makes a big batch and stays nice and warm in your dutch oven. They are pictured above with the amazing Bullock family's baked beans and dutch oven chicken. YUM!
Dutch Oven Smashed Potatoes
Cooking Equipment:
12 in. dutch oven
24 heated charcoal
Ingredients:
1 lb. uncooked bacon (divided)
5 lb bag small baking potatoes (sliced into quarter inch round slices)
2 T. olive oil
1 tsp. garlic powder
1 1/2 tsp. onion powder
salt and pepper to taste
3/4 cup heavy cream
1 cup water
3 T. flour
2 chicken bouillon cubes
2 cups shredded sharp cheddar
Heat charcoal using whatever method you prefer. We have a small charcoal chimney (bucket with a side handle and small holes around the bottom) that we bought at smiths (probably about 10 bucks) that helps get them hot fast. It is so worth getting one, especially up here where it's always windy.
Once your charcoal are heated place 12 briquettes under your dutch oven. Give the oven about 5 minutes (without the lid) to heat up. Once the dutch oven is hot throw 3-4 pieces of the bacon in there. While bacon is cooking break it up into smaller pieces. Once bacon is cooked completely, add the garlic powder, onion powder and salt and pepper. Make sure the bottom is completely coated in the seasoned grease.
Add sliced potatoes and olive oil. Give them a good stir so that they are gently coated in the bacon mixture. Cover oven with lid and top with remaining briquettes. At this point you can also move 4 or 5 of the briquettes from the bottom to the top. Having more of the heat on the top will keep the bottom from burning.
Bake potatoes in dutch oven for about 30 minutes. Meanwhile, cook the rest of your bacon in a frying pan until nice and crispy. Crumble bacon.
Give the potatoes a stir and check how they are doing. Cook for another 15-25 minutes depending on softness. Don't overcook them or you'll end up with potato mush when you mix in the next ingredients. Tender but not soggy is perfect! Meanwhile, In a separate pan mix cream, water, flour, and chicken bouillion together. Heat over medium heat until mixture begins to boil. Stir constantly until mixture thickens into a roux. Remove from heat.
When potatoes are done to your liking, Add bacon, cream mixture, and 1 cup of cheese. Stir slightly until well incorporated. Some of the potatoes will break up and that's okay. Top with remaining cup of cheese. Replace the lid and let sit for about 5 minutes or until heated through and cheese melts. Enjoy!
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Over the years I’ve seen my share of bad accidents on the racetracks that I’ve been to. I’ve seen some that looked bad and weren’t – like the time my grandson was thrown out of his Kart in front of the whole field, and no one hit him. The Kart – that’s another story. I’ve witnessed some accidents that proved fatal, too, to the driver. How Shane Hmiel survived the accident he had last weekend, at Terre Haute, is beyond belief. Yes, he had some serious injuries, and as of Tuesday, things were looking pretty good. So far the surgeries have been very successful. I was going to give you the link to the You Tube video, but it’s been taken off. What happened was that his Silver Crown car bicycled up on it’s outside wheels, came back down on all four, then bicycled again, and hit the concrete wall cage first, at a high rate of speed. Quite a bit is being discussed on this over on the Track Forum, and if interested, you can read it all if you go here: http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?142537-Shane-Hmiel-accident-in-Terre-Haute
Note # 1: As of Tuesday evening, it was up to 13 pages – 14 by Wednesday
Note # 2: Somehow, the video, on youtube, is back up. Not sure for how long, but here’s the link, below. Warning: It is a very scary looking accident. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txca5xYVFiM
Note: I don’t know if this will work – a link to a special Facebook page for Shane: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Shane-Hmiel-Road-to-Recovery/156856564346848
Second:
Are you into racing from “back in the day”? Do you live in the New York/New Jersey/Pennsylvania area? Might you know where Hazleton, Pa is? Have you ever heard of Stan Lobitz? How about the Eastern Museum of Motor Racing – EMMR? Their website can be found, here: http://www.emmr.org/
This coming November 14th, the annual Lobitz Movie Party/Auction will be held at the Lobitz Catering Hall, which is located at 700 Carson St. in Hazleton, a block or so off of PA Route 309. I did a quick search for the Hall, and found this link:
http://wilkesbarre.citysearch.com/profile/8845771/hazleton_pa/lobitz_catering_svc.html
The map, on the upper right shows you where it is located.
Things get started fairly early in the day, like around 9:00 AM, and continue all day long, culminating in a sit down dinner that starts around 5:00. The auction benefits the EMMR. One never knows just who might show up, as far as racing folks go. Lots of vendors in the house, too. Also I believe the ARDC has a meeting and election of officers at the Hall, during the day. You can also expect a lot of “chop busting” to go on during the auction. There is an “open” bar and lunch is also served. Usually there are some old Indy 500 movies shown prior to the auction.
To give you an example of how long it might take to get there, it takes an hour and a half from where I live, in Port Jervis, NY. We take I-84 West to I-81 South. I get off for Route 80 East, then the first exit, for PA Route 309 South.
Third:
Wow! Fifty-one entrants for the Cup race at Charlotte this coming weekend!
http://jayski.com/stats/2010/entries/31cms2010entry.htm
I hope that “Sink hole” doesn’t decide to return!
Going back, in time:
Note: Most of the following information was found here:
http://www.wheelsofspeed.com/history.html
Covering the days of October 8th to October 14th.
OCTOBER 8
1890
Eddie Rickenbacker ... Born ... An American fighter ace in World War I and Medal of Honor recipient. He was also a racecar driver and automotive designer, a government consultant in military matters and a pioneer in air transportation. Rickenbacker raced in the 1912, 1914, 1915 and 1916 Indianapolis 500. His only finish in the race was in 1914 when he finished 10th. In the other three races, he did not finish due to car failure. Notably, in the 1916 race, he started on the front row in 2nd place.
1910
Travis "Spider" Webb... Born ... AAA driver, ran 6 Indy 500's
1919
Jack McGrath... Born ... AAA driver from the 1940's & 50's, ran 8 Indy 500's. He was killed in the final race of the 1955 season in Phoenix, Arizona.
1955
Bill Elliott... Born ... A former champion of the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series. Elliott was inducted into the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America on August 15, 2007. He won the 1988 NASCAR Winston Cup Championship and has garnered 44 wins in that series. He had two Daytona 500 victories, and a record four consecutive wins at Michigan International Speedway during 1985-86. He holds the track record at both Talladega and Daytona International Speedway with speeds of more than 200 mph. Elliott won NASCAR's Most Popular Driver Award a record 16 times. He withdrew his name from the ballot for that award after winning it in 2002.
OCTOBER 9
1928
Pat O'Connor... Born ... AAA / USAC driver from the 1950's. He was killed in the 1958 INDY 500.
1971
Jan Opperman won the Western World Sprint Car race at the Manzanita Speedway , Phoenix, AZ. The event was marred when veteran driver Jimmy Cox was fatally injured in a consolation race. Cox , 42, a 20-year veteran from San Diego that came out of a 1-year retirement, died in a two car mishap that also caused serious arm injuries to Dub May.
OCTOBER 10
1926
Ralph Liguori... Born ... NASCAR Grand National, USAC Midget, Sprint, Silver Crown & Indy Car Driver from the 1950's, 60's & 70's. He competed in the USAC Championship Car series from 1957 to 1971 making 61 starts. His best finish was 2nd place at the Indiana State Fairgrounds Speedway in 1970. 1966 was his most active year, when he made 7 starts and finished 28th in the National Championship. He attempted the Indianapolis 500 six times (1959, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1967, and 1968) but he failed to make the field each time. Liguori continued racing well into his 70's and won a minor race in 2000 at 73 years old.
1930
Arnie Knepper... Born ... USAC driver 1950's to 1983. He drove Midgets, Sprints and the USAC Championship Car series, racing in the 1963-1972 seasons, with 75 career starts, including the 1965-1969 Indianapolis 500 races. He finished in the top ten 21 times, with his best finish in 3rd position twice in 1966.
1948
Ted Horn... Died ... AAA driver from the 1930's and 40's. Ted Horn has the best 9-year streak of finishes in Indianapolis 500 history. Over his Indianapolis 500 career, Ted Horn completed 1944 out of a possible 2000 laps (97%).
OCTOBER 11
1937
Jerry Weld ... Born ... Supermodified, Sprint and USAC Indy Car Driver from the 1960's. Brother of drivers Greg and Kenny.
1975
Don Garlits ran the 1/4-mile in 5.636 seconds at 250.69 mph in his T/F dragster. This elapse time record would stand for another six years and the top speed record for 9 years.
1993
Joe Barzda ... Died ... ARDC/AAA / USAC driver in the 1940’s and 1950's. Quit after Van Johnson's fatal crash in 1959, in which Joe was involved in. With brother Jim, he ran the Californian Speed and Sport Shop in New Brunswick, New Jersey, which fielded cars in lots of events, including CART and endurance racing.
OCTOBER 12
1928
Fred Comer... Died ... AAA driver 1923 to 1928. Killed in a crash at the Rockingham Board Track
1941
Tony Willman ... Died ... AAA driver 1926 to 1941, died in a midget race at Thompson, CT.
1948
Johnny Ritter Died. Standing just 5 ft 1 in (1.55 m) tall and weighing 135 lb (61 kg),[1] Ritter was "one of the best" board track drivers of his time, racking up an unequalled winning record. He scored five wins in a row at the Velodrome in Nutley, New Jersey and four straight at the Coney Island Velodrome. At Castle Hill Speedway in the Bronx in 1940, Ritter won the 150-lap race from last place, an "unprecedented" performance for an outboard midget. He claimed the national flat track racing title that year, also, and the Heiserman championship in 1940 and 1941. He was the track champion at the Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, NJ in 1946.
Ritter often won against opponents in larger and more powerful cars.
He was killed in October 1948 while changing a tire at trackside, when he was hit by another competitor.
He was inducted into the National Midget Auto Racing Hall of Fame in 2003.
He was born in Austria, not Detroit, or Saginaw, Michigan, as is often mentioned.
Info on him from the HoF:
“Originally from Saginaw, Michigan, Johnny started driving big cars in 1929. When the midgets became popular in 1934 Ritter took a liking to the smaller cars and switched to them for good in 1936.
His career blossomed after he headed east, becoming a mainstay in the sport from the middle 30’s until his death at the Medford (Massachusetts) Bowl in 1948 at age 37. In 1938 he placed 8th in the final standings at both Bridgeport, Connecticut and Castle Hill, (Bronx) NY. In 1939 he won Championships at Castle Hill and the Nutley Velodrome.
He was third in the AAA Eastern point standings as well. During his career Ritter won five track titles, Nutley in 1939, and 40, Freeport, New York in 1941 and Paterson, New Jersey’s Hinchliffe Stadium in 1946.
His death came on October 12, 1948 on the 20th lap of a 200-lap event at the Medford Bowl. Ritter was changing a tire on the track apron when a midget racer crashed into him. Several people, including the track owner, George Hatfield, were injured as well.”
Note: He was my favorite driver when I first started going to the races, back in 1946, and still ranks as my # 1 favorite, even today.
1950
Drew Fornoro, son of Nofri (Nick) Fornoro, Sr. was born. He went on to win many midget championships over his racing career.
1956
Mark Dismore ... Born ... IRL driver from the 1990's and 2000's.
1985
Duke Dinsmore... Died ... AAA / USAC driver from 1946 to 1960
1997
John Denver, noted singer, Died when a plan he was piloting crashed.
OCTOBER 13
1902
Lucien Gerard Avenengo was born. He was my father. His love of auto racing was passed down to me. That’s why you’re reading this, now.
1946
Howard Wilcox ... Died ... AAA driver 1932 & 1933
1964
Craig Breedlove drove his "Spirit of America" on the Bonneville Salt Flats to a new World Land Speed Record of 468.719 mph.
1989
Fred Agabashian... Died ... Born in Modesto, California, Frederik was the son of a genious mathematician, and just like his sisters, he wanted to become famous. While they became singers, Fred choose to race. The colorful Armenian with the big smile and terrific personality began racing cars while in his teens. He won his first midget championship in 1937 with the Northern California Racing Association against such drivers as Duane Carter, Lynn Deister, and Paul Swedberg. Driving for Jack London, Freddie captured the BCRA crown in 1946, then switched to the George Bignotti racing team in 1947. He was almost unbeatable for the next two years and captured the BCRA title twice more in 1947 and 1948. Agabashian did not limit his driving abilities to midgets. He won in big cars and stock cars as well which earned him a ride at Indianapolis for the 1947 race. He competed at Indy on eleven occasions and is best remembered for his pole winning effort in 1952 in the unique Cummins Diesel. His best finish at Indianapolis came the next year when he placed 4th with relief from Paul Russo. After his retirement, Agabashian did color commentary for the 500 Radio Network. Agabashian was inducted in the National Midget Auto Racing Hall of Fame.
2005
Wayne Weiler ... Died ... Weiler started as a dirt track driver in Arizona in 1951. He drove in the USAC Championship Car series from 1958 to 1961 with 19 starts. He finished in the top ten 10 times, with his best finish in 3rd position, in 1960 at Phoenix. Weiler competed in the Indianapolis 500 race in 1960 and 1961, with a best finish of 15th in 1961. Weiler retired from USAC driving following a severe accident in a sprint car race in Terre Haute, Indiana on June 11, 1961. He remained active as an owner and manager in auto racing up until his death.
OCTOBER 14
1974
Bob Sall ... Died ... AAA Sprint car ace who later became NASCAR's Eastern field manager.
2000
Wayne Bailey, Top Fuel drag racer, died from injuries suffered in a crash at the completion of a 5.015, 289.94 qualifying run during the IHRA National event at Shreveport, Louisiana.
Track news – (for tracks in my area):
Accord:
From their website:
WRECKAGE IN THE CATSKILLS!
October 16th
ENDUROS-$1000 to win!*
4 CYL
6 CYL
8 CYL
*Based on 25 entries for each division
Demo Derby-$1000 to win!*
4 CYL
6 CYL
8 CYL
*Based on 25 entries for each division
“Run What Ya Brung”
$1000 TO WIN!**
**Based on 15 entries
Pro Stocks- 30 Laps
Pure Stocks- 30 Laps
Powder Puff Enduro
Powder Puff Pure Stock Race
&
Legends
Pit Gates open at 11 AM Spectator Gates open at 12
Adult Admission $12 Kids (11 & under) $3
Family 4 Pack $40-2 adult & 2 kids admission & $20 in food vouchers
OVRP – the dirt track: http://www.oaklandvalleyspeedway.com/
Another weekend of racing on Saturday and Sunday, with Karts and Slingshots on Saturday and Bikes and Quads on Sunday. The following weekend, there’s a practice session scheduled for Friday, the 22nd, then Kart and Slingshots on the 23rd and more Bikes and Quads on the 24th. Saturday, October 30th the Karts and Slingshots run their last point show.
Novemberfest will be held on November 5th, 6th and 7th. I’ll have more info on that event next week.
At times, I get questions:
Similar to this one, below. I knew the late Eric Koster quite well, some years ago, when my son, Eric, worked for him, at Kneisel’s Speed and Sport.
“Tommy - Have you heard anything on the "Potential" Eric Koster Tribute over the Eastern States Weekend?
I myself have heard nothing since that dreaded phone call that evening.
I have NO information regarding and was wondering if they were really going to even do anything?”
I did respond to that. Last I had heard was that there was supposed to be a racecar driven around the track with some of his ashes being spread around. That was said shortly after Eric passed away. Hopefully that is still true.
I knew I did write something about Eric Koster in one of my columns, and part of what was written, back in my column from August 12th, was this:
“Note #2: I found this on the Dirt Track Digest’s forum, what one person had to say about Eric:
“Ive never met Mr. Koster but do have a simple but cool little story that we talk about to this day. We were in the pits at middletown in 2001 and we just happened to be watching Jimmy Hauser who showed up with a sweet looking car went out for hot laps,and pulled pitside and we witnessed the absolute fastest torsion bar change ever, lol, Eric was the man doing the changing and Im telling you Hauser was not off the track for 2 minutes. If any of you have pulled a bar out put a new one in and reset it to height it not exactly a 2 miute job. He makde it look like a routine tire change. lol. Also worth mentioning about that same car a tidbit on the side read something like this, Precisely designed, engineered, built and powered by Eric Koster, and how often in the modern era can one man say that. Must have been just an unbelievable mind and mechanic.”
That, in bold, above would be nice to hear over the PA system if they were to spread his ashes around the speedway!
Note # 1: If I don’t get some expected info about Eric Koster and ESW, prior to my sending this column in, I should have something for next weeks column.
Note # 2: At approximately 10:30 PM on Wednesday night, I received the information I was waiting for. There will be a $500.00 Hard Charger award for the 200 lap Big Block modified race at this years Eastern States event. It will be in memory of Eric Koster. There will also be a special write-up in the Eastern States racing program on Eric. Some family members will be in attendance. I’m not sure about the spreading of his ashes, however.
OCFS:
Bill Boyle (Doctor Dirt) has a couple of things that he’s written up about OCFS that will be in the Eastern States Hard Clay racing program. He told me I could add them to this week’s column, if I wanted to. Enjoy!
A pre-release of what will be appearing in the Easter States edition of the Hard Clay magazine...enjoy the reading..
FAMILY AFFAIR – THE DODD’S AND ORANGE COUNTY
By Bill Boyle
Orange County Fair Speedway, a race track since 1919, first introduced stock car racing to their agenda in 1949, and the first regular scheduled Saturday night attraction in 1950 when the first champion was crowned.
Over those 60 years, many families have supported the Modified venue, be it grandfather, father, son, uncle or brother. Families like the Heotzler’s (Jeff, Ralph and little Jeff), Strupp’s (Sonny and John), Reutimann’s (Buzzi and Wayne), Van Horne’s (Carl and David), Bottcher’s (Bobby and Steve), Ricci’s (Mike and Rich Sr.), Harry and Steve Behrent, Tim and Tom Hindley, the Jashembowski’s (Frank and Ray) along with Danny and Alan Johnson and others have rode the landscape over those years..
But when it comes to longevity, there is one family that stands head and shoulders above all the others, and that is the Dodd Family who have been associated with Victory Speedway / Orange County since the years when they ran Sprints and Midgets at the 5/8th mile hard clay oval located in Middletown, NY..
The association with the arena starts in 1947 when Russ Dodd, then at the ripe old age of 35, climbed aboard a midget and took to the hard clay oval for a little bit of enjoyment during the summer months. When the track decided to run a few Stock Car races in 1949, Russ Dodd climbed aboard his friend Burt Fuller’s five window #88 coupe and challenged the invaders who wanted to be the first stock car driver to win at the fabled Speedway.
Enjoying the success he had in ’48 and ’49, Russ Dodd got serious in 1950, and finally took home his first checkered flag on May 28 and became the first Middletown, NY driver to win on his home turf. As reported, “Russ Dodd beat Cabral and gained his first feature since graduating from the driving school of 1947. The 5,000 fans in the stands gave the Flying Milkman a standing ovation.”
When 1950 was finished, Russ Dodd had officially visited victory lane seven times and became the first stock car champion ever crowned at Victory Speedway. As his daughter Joyce McLarnon explained, “Everyone had a chore to do for the race team, and mine was to take a quarter from him, run up to the novelty stand, buy a stick-on checkered flag, run back to the pits and put the checkered flag on the car. He really kept me busy that year.”
Russ Dodd ran until 1955 accumulating ten feature victories before hanging up his helmet at the ripe old age of 43. The Flying Milkman, a local favorite of the Orange County crowd, had settled into retirement.
When Russ went racing, his younger brother Stan Dodd wasn’t far behind and like Russ, raced a #89 coupe out of the Burt Fuller fleet. On September 6, 1952, the younger Dodd flashed to victory to add his name to the list of Dodd’s on the winners list. Like brother Russ, the Dodd boys loved racing, and would tow anywhere as long as it didn’t interfere with work. They would race at State Line Speedway in North Bennington, Vt. one weekend, and the following weekend in Morristown, NJ, or some other local track that was offering racing action.
Although Stan didn’t win his first dirt feature until 1952, there was a Saturday night when the local boys were taking a ribbing about being afraid to run against the big boys at Hinchliffe Stadium in Paterson, NJ. On June 13, 1951, Stan and the other yokels from Victory Speedway took their cars to the little paved bull track in Paterson, and Stan returned to the woods with the winner’s trophy and a pocket full of cash. Stan would win a total of four features in the three years at that he ran at Middletown.
Once his Uncle and Father retired to the rocking chairs, young Stan Dodd was fitted with a helmet, and took to the racing wars at what was now named the Orange County Fair Speedway. Always an avid competitor, Stan Jr. fielded cars in the 60’s, but could not shed the monkey from his back against the likes of Schneider, Malzahn, Ray Brown, Sonny Strupp and the other professional drivers who would invade the speedway. As a local boy, Stan Jr. was a favorite of the Middletown crowd. Like his Uncle Russ, Jr. ran the #88.
Now we come to Steve, son of Stan Jr., grandson of Stan Sr., and Russ was his Great Uncle. Having been born into a racing family, it was only natural that Steve would want to race. When he turned old enough to race in 1986, he went out and purchased a 1969 Chevelle SS that he saw a “for sale” sign on the car, removed the interior, and built a roll cage inside of the car. By mid-season, the car was ready for the track, and the team brought the car to the speedway and raced in the Rookie Street Stock division.
“Man was that car all over the place” recounted Steve. “We didn’t know what we were doing when we built the car. People would help us with parts, and we made them work on the car. But I drove the car the best I could and loved every minute of it.” In 1987, Dodd was forced to move up to the Novice Class Street Stock division, and with more expertise in how to build and maintain the car, him and the pit crew fielded a better car. Before the year was over, he would grace the team with a well deserved victory.
1988 would be a career definer for Steven Dodd. The speedway was starting a new division that could be used as a stepping stone to the bigger and faster Small Blocks and Big Blocks. It was called the Sportsman Division and had special rules. The car had to be older than 2 years, stock engine and a 2 barrel carburetor run on gas.
They purchased a car formerly run by Dom “The Iceman” Roselli, painted it white with blue stripes, and were prepared to use the Dodd #88 on the side. “Just before we started to paint the car, my father asked me to number it #22, and I did what he requested.”
The third race out, Dodd took an early lead, and raced to his first open wheel victory. “The car was easier than driving that Chevelle, and we really settled down in the driver’s seat.” “Settled down” was to soft a word as Dodd ran off eight feature wins in route to the newly created Championship. Like his Great Uncle Russ, Steve was the first champion in a new division.
Then came the big 50 lap feature at Eastern States weekend for the newly formed Sportsman, and competitors from most of the DIRT sanctioned tracks were on hand for the big $1,000 to win feature. “Some of those outsiders gave me a run for my money” stated Steve, “but in the end, it was my win and my trophy.” That was win number nine for the season.
Being forced up to the Small Block ranks in 1989 because of the championship, Dodd settled into the new division without changing gears. “We had a heck of a season and took home Rookie of the Year honors, but alas, not a single win. We had a lot of seconds and thirds, but it was the year when Modified drivers Danny Johnson and Brett Hearn battled tooth and nail every week and left nothing for the pure Small Block racers.”
In 1993, the Dodd Racing Team built their first Modified and went racing against the cream of the crop big block drivers. Showing his ability to compete at the highest level of racing at Orange County, Dodd constantly challenged the best drivers that the track had to offer, and in the final rundown, was voted the Rookie of the year. It took Dodd five years, but on July 25, 1998, Steve added his name to the list of drivers to checker in the Modified division along with Grand-pa Stan and Great-uncle Russ.
Over the years, Steve has continued his assault on the hard clay oval, picking up eight Modified wins along with two Small Block features, including his mid-summer victory this year. “I really look forward to the Eastern States 200. We finished 7th last year, and this year were looking for a top five placement.”
How long will the Dodd’s continue to grace the local track?? Until there aren’t any more Dodd’s. From the first championship by Russ Dodd, to the current competitor Steve, there have been Dodd’s around Orange County Fair Speedway for over 50 years…..and there are no plans to end that in the foreseeable future.
And:
A CONVERSATION WITH MIKE GURDA
By Bill Boyle
The Gurda family has had a presence at the Orange County Fair grounds for almost 60 years, but there appears to be little that the general public knows about them. Recently, I had a chance to talk to Mike Gurda IV, the current director of the facility, to discuss the past, the current and the future of the historic tract of land that lies in Wallkill, NY.
In the beginning, the Fair Grounds were owned by the Orange County Agricultural Society which was formed in the early 1900’s as a place to hold the annual Orange County Fair, a tradition that holds true to this day. It was a Trust that was owned by individual shareholders.
In the early 1950’s, a local businessman and attorney Michael Gurda II took interest in the local plot of land, and because he dabbled in stocks and properties in his spare time, approached the Trust to see if he could purchase shares in the facility. Through the 50’s Mike II continued to purchase shares until the family had amassed a majority of the property. Today, there are more than 300 shareholders, but the Gurda’s hold the controlling interest.
As Mike IV explained, “The Fair Grounds comprise 32 acres of prime realty, which includes the 5/8th mile Speedway and the grandstands. This is owned by the Trust. M+W Realty purchased two adjoining properties consisting of the drive-in which abuts the speedway, and the tract of land overlooking the fairgrounds and runs to the rear of the shopping center off of Route 211. All three properties cover 92 acres, with 60 acres owned mostly by the Gurda’s.”
“My Grandfather was active in running the place until the late 80’s when he became ill. It was then that my Father (Michael Gurda III, also a local Attorney) became active with the Trust, and when my Grandfather passed away in 1992, he stepped in as Director.”
With two Attorneys’ in the family, one would think it would only be natural for the next generation to enter those ranks. “I wasn’t interested in the legal profession” reiterated Mike, “and I enjoyed building things. I would spend the summer working for my father and overseeing the annual fair, and during the winter months I’d do construction work building houses.
“I remember when fire destroyed one of the buildings on the property, and my Father decided to replace it with an arena that could be used year-round. At that time, I was racing motorcycles and enjoying myself as a young adult. I would think of the arena as my own playground when it wasn’t being used. My friend Keith Jacobsen and I would take our motorcycles and race indoors. We had a ball.”
In the late 70’s Stanley Gurda, Mike Gurda II’s brother, promoted the racing at the lightning fast hard clay oval during it’s heyday of crowds and race cars. Then in 1982, Glenn Donnelly and his DIRT organization approached the Gurda’s about leasing the Speedway and promoting their own brand of racing. It was a long term lease, and it took a load off of the families shoulders. Now they could concentrate on the annual fair, and the leasing of the arena without the hardships of preparing a race track weekly. DIRT was happy, and the Gurda’s were happy.
“Yep, DIRT brought in a new Sportsman division to develop new drivers, and I was rearing to go. In 1988 and 89, I drove a Green #13 at the track. I then decided that I was better at Motorcycles then stock cars, so I hung up my helmet and retired back to the office.
“It was around 1991 that I thought it would be fun to hold some races indoor during January when the arena wasn’t being used. So we organized some races on Saturday nights, and what started out as a lark, somehow turned out to be a money maker. That lasted 18 years, and we’d still be doing it today if the Township didn’t put a halt to it last year.”
When Donnelly sold his DIRT organization to Boundless Motorsports in the late 90’s, they kept their lease agreement with the Fair Grounds and continued to promote the races. But after five years, Boundless wanted changes to the lease, and a new group wanted to try their hand at promoting the facility. Enter JoAnne Chadwick and Corey Reed. They had idea’s to enhance the level of racing at the track, but they ran into the worse weather in 30 years, losing a third of the races to rain and cold. It was too much to recover from, and Boundless had reorganized and was now called the World Racing Group. They wanted to return to promoting the races, and inked a multi-year lease.
When that lease was completed after the 2008 season, WRG approached the Fair Grounds about gaining a new lease, but the points of the deal could not be ironed out. Mike Gurda IV, who was now running the show after his father retired, said “I could pay more rent running the place myself than what WRG was willing to pay for the lease, and I told them that. I sat back to think the deal out, and I contacted Howie Commander concerning the alternative. We had known Howie since I was a kid, and we had a long relationship with him and the communications between us were good. Having talked to Ken Sands, who was the Operations Manager for WRG at the track, he promised that he would stay with OCFS if a deal could be worked out. Howie convinced me that we were strong enough to promote the races, and he would help should we run into problems.”
“I was brought into racing at OCFS, and I expect to see racing here for a long time. Every time there is a change at the top, all I ever hear are negative comments about OCFS closing up. Well, that’s not true, nor has it ever been true. I have always known that there would be racing at Orange County Fair Speedway, and I can assure you that there will continue to be racing at OC for many years to come.”
“I’ve been asked why the Fairgrounds are for sale. There are things that I would like to see done to enhance the grounds, but in today’s environment, those funds are not available to us. The grounds need an infusion of new cash to enhance the buildings and grounds. I’d like to see a Civic Center built on the grounds, an amusement park that could be used year-round, and a sports arena to support the community and other things. Those venues would create a cash flow that would support the upkeep at the property, and allow the fairgrounds to move forwarded in the future…including the support of the 100 year old race track.”
“We’ve had a few nibbles to date from race related enterprises, but nothing solid to date. I would expect it to take a few years to complete any deal.”
“Yes” concluded Mike Gurda IV, “I foresee the speedway existing forever, with or without the Gurda family.”
The History of the Sport:
Something a little different, this week. While I was on the Track Forum, I came across a thread about “Who's the Luckiest To Have Survied A Crash totally UNHURT?” Wow! Some pretty scary looking accidents were linked to in the thread. But what was a surprise to me was a link to the Charlie Musselman accident that he had at Langhorne on September 1, 1957. I was there that day, and to be honest, I truly believe that Musselman (himself – not in the car) was as high in the air as I was in the stands. Fate was kind to Musselman that day. Had he not been thrown from that Sam Traylor owned, Orange # 77, Sprint Car, chances are that it would have ended up with him being fatally injured. Two photographers, Walter Chernokal and Ray Masser, captured a lot of photos of the Musselman accident. Most photos show both the Sprint Car, as it was flipping, and Musselman, as he was in the car, then tossed out, like a rag doll, as he sailed up and over the flipping car, with him coming to rest, on the track – basically unhurt.
Check out the photos, here: http://autoracingmemories.com/forums/showthread.php?p=849
Former Dirt Oval (Oakland Valley Speedway) runners:
Not much to report on this week.
At Borgers, on October 8th, Tiffany Wambold was 8th in the 270 Wingless feature while Luke Shostkewitz was 5th in the wingless 600 Micro feature. On October 9th, Tiffany was 6th in the 270 Micro feature.
At Rolling Wheels, in the Sportsman race, Anthony Perrego was 23rd.
At Five Mile, in the Supernationals, Clinton Mills was 16th and Jamie Yannone 25th in the Modified 50 lap feature.
Up in Syracuse, in the Sportsman race, Anthony was 13th, while Tim Hindley was 29th in the Modified 200.
At Sundance Vacations, Nick Pecko was 12th in the 150 lap Modified feature.
For sale:
My son, Eric, still has the dirt modified for sale:
2006 Teo, Complete car minus engine. Kirkey full containment seat, Winters rear, Bert transmission, inboard starter, profile steering, parker pumper, wilwood hubs. $5000.
Interested? Send me an e-mail at: ygordad@yahoo.com or send him one at: ema19us@yahoo.com
More racin’ stuff:
NASCAR’s point standings – two ways – as they used to be (still should in my way of thinking), and how they are with the “Chase”.
How they still should be:
2010 Sprint Cup Driver 'Classic' Points Standings:
[after Auto Club, race 30 of 36....the OLD way]:
rank, car#, driver, points, behind
1) #29-Kevin Harvick, 4312
2) #24-Jeff Gordon, 4081, -231
3) #48-Jimmie Johnson, 4040 -272
4) #14-Tony Stewart, 3973, -339
5) #18-Kyle Busch, 3951, -361
6) #99-Carl Edwards, 3938, -374
7) #11-Denny Hamlin, 3919, -393
8) #31-Jeff Burton, 3886, -426
9) #2- Kurt Busch, 3850, -462
10) #17-Matt Kenseth, 3778, -534
11) #39-Ryan Newman, 3656, -716
12) #33-Clint Bowyer, 3647, -656
13) #16-Greg Biffle, 3625, -665
And, the “Chase”:
1
Jimmie Johnson
5673
2
Denny Hamlin
5637
3
Kevin Harvick
5619
4
Jeff Gordon
5588
5
Tony Stewart
5566
6
Kurt Busch
5533
7
Carl Edwards
5511
8
Jeff Burton
5496
9
Kyle Busch
5486
10
Greg Biffle
5458
11
Matt Kenseth
5432
12
Clint Bowyer
5426
Other forums/message boards and websites:
You might find some interesting reading if you go to the links below.
Track Forum: - http://www.trackforum.com/forums/
Frontstretch.com: http://www.frontstretch.com/
Jayski: - http://www.jayski.com/
Open Wheel Racers3: http://www.openwheelracers3.com/
Race Pro Weekly: http://raceproweekly.com/
Racing on TV - http://www.racefantv.com/USTV.htm
Some of my thoughts:
Question: When one writes article and/or columns, should one refrain from getting on the case of, say a speedway? If not, how far should one go? If you’re a faithful reader of my columns, you might have noticed something a little different on these last few columns - no mention in “Track news – (for tracks in my area):” on one of the tracks that’s pretty close to my home – OCFS.
Well, if you recall, a few columns back, I went back a year and copied what was in my column about OCFS “missing the boat” by not having run a couple of open wheel racing car features when they held their “Eve of Destruction” night in front of a packed house, back in September of 2009. I also made mention of that on more than one occasion. My feelings were that since the place has been so “empty” on Saturday nights, it might be worth a try at holding an open wheel racecar race – letting those that were packed into the stands be able to see what was normally held on Saturdays during the racing season. How well I can recall that to get a good seat on a Saturday night, you really had to get to the track way before race time. Over these past years, that’s not so, anymore – you can get there at race time and almost have your choice of any seat.
Well, during this past “Eve of Destruction”, such a race was held – although it was, in a way, quite a secret. Now why do I say that? Well, there was a post, I believe on Facebook, from a driver, and he didn’t know of that race. OK, there were only five cars and I believe it was a race of only five laps. From what I’ve read (I was not in attendance, having to attend a wedding for a niece that day) one of the tracks announcers, Joel Murns, was on the “Mic” and was telling all those in attendance that what they were seeing, was what happens at OCFS every Saturday night. From my talking to some of those that were in attendance, I gather that the “race” was pretty well received by the crowd.
So me, being me, came out and said something, on Facebook, to the effect that those at OCFS woke up and did actually have an open wheel car race during the “Eve of Destruction”. Was I wrong in saying that – about being woke up? I really don’t know. But what I did suggest, over a year ago, was done – although quite secretive. But it was done.
My making mention of someone being “awake” kind of got some feathers ruffled, and I heard from OCFS, on Facebook, in no uncertain terms. I won’t put on here exactly what was said, just the last part, which was: “We do not need you to say ANYTHING avbout the speedway."
So, since then, I’ve followed their wishes, until this week, when I did put in what Bill Boyle (Doctor Dirt) has written up for the up-coming ESW program.
Just thought I’d let you know why any OCFS news was missing. I’m just glad that an attempt was done, with an open wheel race during the EoD night. Hopefully, some new race fans were made. Time will tell, I suppose?
I’ll be at OCFS for Eastern States Weekend. Will you? Got our seats – Row “N” seats 44 & 45 in the half covered. If you’re there, stop bye for a visit! “Mother Nature” had best behave that weekend!
Video time:
Going back up in this week’s column, I had this – from October 12th:
“1997
John Denver, noted singer, Died when a plan he was piloting crashed.”
Here are a couple of videos of John from the “Wildlife Concert”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uYag4yPdlA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkGS263lGsQ&feature=related
Note: The young woman doing the back-up singing is Pat Hawk.
Other (non racing) news:
From 10/10:
Govt: No call for Social Security increase in 2011
In part:
“As if voters don't have enough to be angry about this election year, the government is expected to announce this week that more than 58 million Social Security recipients will go through another year without an increase in their monthly benefits.
It would mark only the second year without an increase since automatic adjustments for inflation were adopted in 1975. The first year was this year.”
“The cost-of-living adjustments, or COLAs, are automatically set each year by an inflation measure that was adopted by Congress back in the 1970s. Based on inflation so far this year, the trustees who oversee Social Security project there will be no COLA for 2011.”
"Costs of living are inevitably going up, regardless of what that formula says," Pomeroy said. "Seniors in particular have items such as uncovered drug costs, medical costs, utility increases, and they're on fixed incomes."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101011/ap_on_bi_ge/us_social_security_no_cola
Officials in 50 states launch foreclosure probe
In part:
“WASHINGTON – Officials in 50 states and the District of Columbia have launched a joint investigation into allegations that mortgage companies mishandled documents and broke laws in foreclosing on hundreds of thousands of homeowners.
The states' attorneys general and bank regulators will examine whether mortgage company employees made false statements or prepared documents improperly.”
“"This is not simply about a glitch in paperwork," said Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller, who is leading the probe. "It's also about some companies violating the law and many people losing their homes."
"What we have seen are not mere technicalities," said Ohio Attorney General Richard Cordray. "This is about the private property rights of homeowners facing foreclosure and the integrity of our court system, which cannot enter judgments based on fraudulent evidence."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101013/ap_on_bi_ge/us_foreclosures_states
Note: Somehow, even though some banks really screwed up, I don’t see much of a change, if any, on those homes that have been foreclosed on, and also for future foreclosures.
In part:
“
More Balk at Cost of Prescriptions
In part:
“Growing numbers of Americans with health insurance are walking away from their prescriptions at the pharmacy counter, the latest indication that efforts to contain costs may be curbing health-care consumption.
A review of insurance-claims data shows that so-called abandonment -- when a patient refuses to purchase or pick up a prescription that was filled and packaged by a pharmacist -- was up 55% in the second quarter of this year, compared with four years earlier.”
“The trend is driven in part by higher out-of-pocket costs for covered medicines, pharmacists and Wolters Kluwer officials say. The average co-pays for brand-name drugs such as cholesterol fighter Lipitor rose to $28 a prescription this year, an 87% jump from 2000, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. Some co-pays can be as high as $100.”
http://finance.yahoo.com/insurance/article/111005/more-balk-at-cost-of-prescriptions?mod=insurance-health
Note: Been there – done that, myself. Have you noticed more drug commercials on TV with the notice similar to: “If you have a hard time financially” to call a certain number? Been there – did that, too – to no avail. You basically have to be on public assistance to get some kind of price reduction.
Is this true?:
Again, something I received in an e-mail:
MEXICO IS ANGRY! Three cheers for Arizona
The shoe is on the other foot and the Mexicans from the State of Sonora, Mexico do not like it. Can you believe the nerve of these people? It's almost funny.
The State of Sonora is angry at the influx of Mexicans into Mexico . Nine state legislators from the Mexican State of Sonora traveled to Tucson to complain about Arizona 's new employer crackdown on illegals from Mexico . It seems that many Mexican illegals are returning to their hometowns and the officials in the Sonora state government are ticked off.
A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to state that Arizona 's new Employer Sanctions Law will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state. At a news conference, the legislators said that Sonora , - Arizona 's southern neighbor - made up of mostly small towns - cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools that it will face as Mexican workers return to their hometowns from the USA without jobs or money.
The Arizona law, which took effect Jan. 1, punishes Arizona employers who knowingly hire individuals without valid legal documents to work in the United States . Penalties include suspension of, or loss of, their business license.
The Mexican legislators are angry because their own citizens are returning to their hometowns, placing a burden on THEIR state government. 'How can Arizona pass a law like this?' asked Mexican Rep Leticia Amparano-Gamez, who represents Nogales . 'There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona ,' she said, speaking in Spanish. 'Mexico is not prepared for this, for the tremendous problems it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and who were sending money to their families return to their home-towns in Sonora without jobs,' she said. 'We are one family, socially and economically, ' she said of the people of Sonora and Arizona.< v>
Wrong! The United States is a sovereign nation, not a subsidiary of Mexico , and its taxpayers are not responsible for the welfare of Mexico 's citizens. It's time for the Mexican government, and its citizens, to stop feeding parasitically off the United States and to start taking care of its/their own needs.
Too bad that other states within the USA don't pass a law just like that passed by Arizona . Maybe that's the answer, since our own Congress will do nothing!
New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message...
1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
3. All government business will be conducted in our language.
4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office.
6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.
7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted &, when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.
Too strict ?
The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO !
Closing with these:
EVER WONDER...
Why the sun lightens our hair, but darkens our skin?
Why women can't put on mascara with their mouth closed?
Why you don't ever see the headline "Psychic Wins Lottery"?
Why "abbreviated" is such a long word?
Why doctors call what they do "practice"?
Why you have to click on "Start" to stop Windows 98?
Why lemon juice is made with artificial flavor, while dishwashing liquid is made with real lemons?
Why the man who invests all your money is called a broker?
Why there isn't mouse-flavored cat food? And who tastes dog food when it has a "new & improved" flavor?
Why they sterilize the needle for lethal injections?
Why they don't make the whole plane out of the material used for the indestructible black box ?
Why sheep don't shrink when it rains?
Why they are called apartments when they are all stuck together? if con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?
Why they call the airport "the terminal" if flying is so safe?
May “Guardian Angels” sit on the shoulders of all of our race drivers and race fans, and guide them safely around the tracks!
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New Year: New Dreamcatcher Season!
While we move together toward a healthy future, we are continuing to offer our programming virtually through spring.
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The evening will be a chance to connect and laugh together, and to support Dreamcatcher’s work and artists.
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LVMH Takes Us Around The World's Best Wines
Luxury brand LVMH, whose portfolio of wine and spirit brands includes names like Hennessy, Dom Pérignon, Veuve Clicquot and Krug, has released a coffee table book that gives readers a behind-the-scenes glimpse at the estates that produce its world famous wines and bubbly.
Written by travel writer Alain Stella and photographed by Francis Hammond, the 280-page hard-cover French Wine Chateaux traces the history, wine and spirit-making traditions of some of the most luxurious and historic estates in the world. The wines are also accompanied by tasting notes from cellar masters, as well as recipes from some of France’s top, Michelin-starred chefs including Yannick Alléno, head chef of luxury hotel Le Meurice in Paris, and Dom Pérignon chef Pascal Tingaud. Published by Flammarion, French Wine Châteaux: Distinctive Vintages and Their Estates was released this week in the UK and retails for £55 and will be available on the US release is scheduled for February 5, 2013 and will retail for $85.
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New Year's Resolution: Travel More - It Makes You a Better Person
A resolution I believe everyone should make is to travel more. I am not saying travel 'luxuriously' but grab a backpack and try to discover the world and learn a thing or two about what the rest of the world can offer us... from traditional foods, cultural diversity, new discoveries and more... After reading this article I realized how much I have learned through traveling...
Wanted to share this with you...
1. Learning to be alone.
Have lunch with yourself. Sit with your thoughts and be okay with them, whatever they are. Love yourself whole-heartedly, especially in times of solitude. And when you think you can’t sit alone any longer, order coffee and a dessert.
2. Relying on the kindness of strangers.
Foreignness does not prevent random acts of kindness. Accept them. Give them. Appreciate them.
3. Learning to live with less.
This does not mean claiming hardship. Let this manifest in small ways. Recognize your fortunes. Be humbled.
4. Learning that plans change and you will have to adapt.
Itineraries are guidelines, not rigid measurements of experience. The best experiences are often not scheduled or anticipated. Expect the unexpected and learn to love it.
5. Enjoying the moment.
Forget the missed bus and enjoy the culture that can be experienced in one hour waiting at a bus stop. Stay in the present.
6. Forces you out of your comfort zone.
Practice speaking that language you learned. Try the cow tongue. Make new friends.
7. Learning to be patient.
Don’t rush through the museum. Don’t rush through your meal. Don’t bounce your leg up and down or roll your eyes. Don’t yell at anyone for reading the map wrong and getting lost. Don’t worry, you’ll get there.
8. Learning you can’t assume.
Try looking at things a different way. Ask questions. Let this open up a new realm of thought and possibility.
9. Missing home.
Appreciate family, friends, and loved ones. Appreciate the comfort of mundane routines. Find a new found respect for the life you often wish to escape.
10. Goodbye is not forever, life has endless possibilities.
Family becomes more than just blood. Never say goodbye to the people you meet and the places you see. Cherish the new families and homes you’ve gained. Keep in touch and look back with fond memories from time to time
So... WIll you be traveling more this year?
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The 1997 review of the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) is the first opportunity to examine progress made in sustainable development. UNCED drew international attention to linkages between environment and economic development, and underscored how the sustainable use of natural resources is an essential element of any international development strategy that addresses the needs of present and future generations.
One of the main goals of the United Nations Development Programme is to lend support to the entire UN System to become a unified and powerful force for sustainable human development. For UNDP, sustainable human development means focusing efforts in four key areas: eradicating poverty, increasing women’s role in development, job creation, and protecting and regenerating the environment. Energy production and consumption are closely linked to these issues, and to reach the objectives established by the UN requires major changes in the approach to energy. Energy is an essential instrument to meet basic human needs.
The importance of energy in sustainable development clearly emerged at Rio. However, no integrated action programme in the field of energy was agreed upon at the Rio Conference in 1992. The essential linkages between energy and socio-economic development were not approached in an integrated fashion. As a result the recommendations concerning energy and development remain dispersed. Global consensus was reached with regard to the important, energy-related issues of climate change and acidification.
Shedding light and focusing international attention on the critical importance of energy to sustainable human development is UNDP’s only objective in preparing Energy After Rio: Prospects and Challenges, upon which this Executive Summary is based. The current patterns of energy production and use, which shape the development process internationally, are unsustainable and have become more so since Rio. In developing countries, energy financing as well as production and consumption patterns increasingly impede national development processes, and will continue to do so, unless new approaches are adopted.
Today, an estimated 2 billion people worldwide lack access to modern energy services. Though we know that energy is absolutely essential for development, little international attention has been devoted to this relation. Agenda 21 called on nations to find more efficient systems for producing, distributing and consuming energy, and for greater reliance on environmentally sound energy systems, with special emphasis on renewable sources of energy. UNDP, through its Initiative on Sustainable Energy, is assisting programme countries to reflect these objectives in national energy policies, investment plans and sustainable development strategies. Change, however, must go beyond aid policies and be reflected in international business, investment, trade, public and private sector policies and decisions.
What must now be done? A more direct, and dynamic debate on the essential linkages between energy and socio-economic development is needed, followed by translation into action, especially in the short term, of the objectives of sustainable energy to achieve sustainable human development.
On behalf of UNDP, I hope that this Executive Summary can serve to foster the international debate and consensus process concerning the importance of sustainable energy and refocus international commitment on these critical issues during the 1997 Review of Rio. The authors of this volume describe the important links between energy and development and suggest pathways that will allow energy to be used in ways that improve peoples’ lives. This is at the heart of sustainable human development and, as we enter the next millennium, is one of the key global issues that will challenge all nations.
I congratulate the authors and contributors on their efforts, and am confident that this Executive Summary will be an important catalyst for decision-makers, policy-makers, academics, the international development community, NGOs and the media in highlighting the importance of energy for achieving sustainable human development.
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EA didn’t surprise us with yesterday’s Plants vs Zombies: Battle for Neighborville announcement but the release date definitely did take us by surprise. PvZ: Battle for Neighborville is out right now in early access form, with a full launch planned for October 18th. It’s more of the same manic multiplayer third-person shooter action, this time with a whole lot more of everything. If you want to risk giving it a shot right now, here are the PvZ: Battle for Neighborville PC system specs.
Plants vs Zombies: Battle for Neighborville Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows 10 64-bit CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 2-Core 3.3 GHz or AMD FX-4350 4-Core 4.2 GHz RAM: 4 GB System Memory GPU RAM: 2GB Video Memory GPU: GeForce GT 640 or Radeon HD 7730 HDD: 15 GB Available Space DX: DirectX 11
Plants vs Zombies: Battle for Neighborville Recommended System Requirements
OS: Windows 10 64-bit CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 4-Core 3.4 GHz or AMD FX-6100 6-Core 3.3 GHz RAM: 8 GB System Memory GPU RAM: 2 GB Video Memory GPU: GeForce GTX 970 or Radeon R9 285 HDD: 15 GB Available Space DX: DirectX 11
Interestingly, in comparison to PvZ: Garden Warfare 2, the system requirements for Plants vs Zombies: Battle for Neighborville have actually dropped across the board. Visually we’re not really seeing any drop, Battle for Neighborville is a great looking game, but EA has clearly been working some optimisation magic underneath the hood.
The good news then is you’ll only need a PC that’s around five years old to meet the recommended requirements for PvZ: BfN, which is very rare for a AAA title. EA suggests you’ll need a quad-core processor, 8GB RAM, and either a GeForce GTX 970 or a 2GB Radeon R9 285 (down from an R9 290 for Garden Warfare 2). That’s very reasonable and should ensure Plants vs Zombies: Battle for Neighborville runs very well even on comparatively low-end systems.
If your PC is right at the lower-end though, then PvZ: Battle for Neighborville still has you covered. The minimum specs are absolutely ancient. Even the newest hardware here is seven years old so we really don’t envisage many folks struggling to run Battle for Neighborville in a playable form.
The one thing you do need to keep an eye out for is the OS requirement. For whatever reason, EA are suggesting the minimum OS you’ll need is Windows 10 64-bit, ruling out Windows 7 users entirely. We’d be surprised if this is actually the case, particularly since Windows 7 supports DirectX 12 these days, but it’s certainly something we hope to explore.
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Lots of One Direction short stories
The Game Show
The Game Show
Somehow I had been volunteered to take part in a game show, I was not impressed but I didn’t really have a choice as my ex-boyfriend thought it would be funny, I’m guessing his way of humiliating me since I dumped him. This game show involved sitting in a type of cubical whilst celebrity guests answered questions based on the embarrassing things that have happened in your life, humiliating enough that thousands of people would know my most embarrassing moment? No of course it had to get worse, if the celebrities didn’t get the answer correct then you get gunged…seriously? Why the fuck had I actually turned up to the studio, I could have just stayed at home, no one would have hunted me down or anything…..I don’t think.
“Hi you must be Emma? Thanks for volunteering to fill in.” A guy who I assumed was in charge said with a smile. “Well actually my ex volunteered me, this is the last type thing that I would want to do” I said glumly. “Oh ok well glad you’re here anyway” he suddenly looked me from head to toe and said “well at least you’ll look good wet”, I couldn’t believe he just said that, what an arse! “So your celebrity team mates will be One Direction.” He smiled as he pushed me towards my dressing room. He then shut the door and left. Great so what was I supposed to do now? Is there still time to run away?
My phone suddenly rang, it was my best friend “hey hun, I can’t believe I’m here, do you think they would notice if I ran away? I really don’t want to be here, and you can tell James that I will fucking kill him when I see him so he had better stay out of my way!” I was so angry at my ex, and he wonders why I dumped him? Someone suddenly knocked on my door, “come in!” I shouted, in walked One Direction, “sorry babe I have got to go, and what I said about James I am really serious, so you had better keep him away from me when I get back! Love you speak to you later” I hung up the phone and apologised to the guys “sorry guys that was my friend”, we then all introduced ourselves. They seemed quite nice, and really hot!
“So who’s James? It seems like he got on your bad side” Louis laughed. “He is my ex, he’s the reason I’m here, I’m guessing he thought it was good revenge for me dumping his sorry arse” I said still a bit annoyed, “aww that’s shit, sorry you had to be here then, glad it was you who had to fill in for the other girl, you seem really cool” Liam smiled, “and hot” Harry mumbled. “Thanks” I laughed. “We I suppose they told you about the show?” Niall asked. “Ye they ask you guys questions about all the stupid embarrassing things I have done and you have to decide if I have done it or not, and if you get it wrong I get gunged. Yay can’t wait” I said sarcastically. The guys just laughed. “Well we will try not to get it wrong; even though it would be really funny to see you get gunged, and pretty sexy as well” Niall laughed. The guys left so I could get changed, I looked at what I had to wear…. A white tank top and black hot pants, really? Are they fucking kidding me? ugh I put the clothes on and quickly went to the studio as we were being called as the show was going live in a few minutes.
The show started and when I was introduced a couple members of the audience whistled, typical men. I felt like a right dick just sitting on a plastic stool in a little glass cubical, I had a feeling that this was not going to end well as clearly the guys knew nothing about me, well apart from the fact that I was newly single and their age.
“So guys do you or do you not think that Emma has been caught having sex in a public park?” the presenter asked, what the fuck…. Great I had a feeling how the rest of the questions were going to go down; I’m guessing the intended audience for this show was more for late teenagers to adults. The guys all laughed “well I’m guessing that you haven’t?” Liam asked, my face fell, great first question and they got it wrong, ok I wasn’t proud that I had been caught but to my defence I was drunk. Suddenly I was drenched in cold gunge, “fuck” I muttered as I wiped it off my face, and got rid of the small puddle on my lap. The guys looked at me in disbelief; I just shrugged and smiled shyly.
“Ok so let’s try this one, Emma was spotted buying things in ann summers by one of her university lecturers, she then made the excuse that she was just lost and didn’t realise that she was in a sex shop, true or false?” the presenter laughed. “Um… well considering we got the last question wrong… I’m thinking that this was true?” Niall asked slightly sniggering as they all clearly thought this would have been hilarious. It was not hilarious I could have died, I don’t think he believed that I was lost. “Yes that was true, well done guys” the presenter laughed.
“OK how about this one, Emma was told off in class for masturbating when in actual fact she was just texting her mum, true or false.” The guys all laughed really loudly, I didn’t realise the questions were going to be like this, and by the looks on their faces neither did they. “Um, we are going with true?” Harry said with a smirk on his face, I had a feeling that he was actually picturing me masturbating. “Ooo it’s false, she was told off for masturbating in class but she was actually sexting her boyfriend at the time” another load of freezing cold gunge was dumped on me, I was wet and cold and I looked really silly, I looked down and saw that my red bra was showing through the now very wet top and my nipples had hardened because of the cold….great just what I needed, especially on live tv!
The questions went on for several more rounds, some of the questions were embarrassing but normal, like the fact that I fell over in front of lots of people in a car park, and some of the questions were really personal and slightly sexual, like the fact that I had an orgasm on a bus because I was feeling really horny and the bus was vibrating slightly. By the end of the show I just wanted to crawl into a hole and die, I was also covered in gunge and was freezing cold. The producer signalled that the show had ended and I could go have a shower, yay! About bloody time. “Hey Emma, sorry we were really shit at that, but who knew your life was so funny” Zayn laughed as he hugged me, clearly they didn’t care if they got wet or dirty. “Ye that one were you said you were lost in ann summers was hilarious!” Niall laughed he too hugged me. One after one they all hugged me and laughed about some of the things that they had found out about me, I must admit it was quite funny. Harry approached me and hugged me, he leant in and whispered quiet enough that no passers-by would hear, but loud enough that the other members of One Direction would hear, “sex in a public park, and orgasms on the bus, huh? Well how about orgasms in a public shower at a studio? We’re all dirty too now I think we might need a shower as well”, Harry smirked as they all pulled me to the showers at the studio.
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In order to further standardize the use, distribution, management and disposal of safety protection products, strict control of all aspects of declaration, approval,Protective gear purchase, distribution and use,Protective gear a safety protection product management system was specially formulated. The safety protection equipment management system mainly includes the introduction of strict approval of safety protection equipment procurement procedures, strict quality comparison purchases, strict warehousing, distribution, exchange procedures, Protective gearstrict use management and strict disposal.
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A clear and perceptive insight into how to understand and interpret statistical concepts used to investigate quantitative ICH Guidelines such as analytical methods validation, procedures, and acceptance criteria in calibration limits is required from professionals in the field of statistical analysis. They also need to have a proper understanding of process and quality controls, as well as ICH Q8 and Q9.
The guideline the ICH has set out for analytical methods validation is the ICH tripartite-harmonized ICH Guideline on Text, which was previously coded as Q2A, finalized in October 1994 under Step 4. This guideline seeks to identify the validation parameters that are required for a number of analytical methods. The characteristics and parameters that need to be taken into consideration when validating the analytical procedures that are included in the registration applications are also laid down in this guideline.
When it comes to procedures and acceptance criteria in calibration limits, the ICH guideline is the ICH tripartite-harmonized ICH Guideline on Methodology, which used to be previously coded as Q2B. This was finalized in November 1996 under Step 4. This guideline extends the ICH guideline on Text, or what is called Q2A (mentioned above) to comprise the actual experimental data required, along with the statistical interpretation, for the validation of a variety of analytical procedures.
Current Step 4 for process and Quality Control
The current guideline for process and Quality Control is the Current Step 4 version of the ICH-harmonized Tripartite Guideline. The final draft of this guideline has been recommended for adoption to the regulatory bodies of the three biggest pharmaceutical markets in the world, namely the US, the EU and Japan.
Meeting critical milestones is required for professionals who want to achieve harmonization in Quality, professionals. Conducting stability studies, the way the studies define relevant limits for the testing of impurities, and following a more malleable approach to pharmaceutical quality that is based on the principles of Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) risk management are among these milestones. ICH’s Quality guidelines on harmonization relating to Quality cover the following areas:
o Stability
o Analytical Validation
o Impurities
o Pharmacopoeias
o Quality of Biotechnological Products
o Specifications
o Good Manufacturing Practice
o Pharmaceutical Development
o Quality Risk Management
o Pharmaceutical Quality System
o Development and Manufacture of Drug Substances
o Lifecycle Management.
A thorough training session on the areas of Validation in accordance with ICH guidelines
It is important and necessary for professionals in this area to get proper guidance, considering the complexity and the breadth of the issues associated with these techniques, which cover both the pharmaceutical and clinical applications, and considering that these techniques apply to a number of area such as stability testing, outlier analysis and risk management.
A seminar from GlobalCompliancePanel, a leading provider of professional trainings for the areas of regulatory compliance, will offer this learning. Dr. Alfred Bartolucci, who serves as Emeritus Professor of Biostatistics at the University of Alabama, will be the Director of this seminar. Please visit Validation the complies with ICH guidelines to register for this valuable learning session. This seminar has been pre-approved by RAPS as eligible for up to 12 credits towards a participant’s RAC recertification upon full completion.
A clear and deep understanding of statistical concepts
Dr. Bartolucci will offer in-depth and clear learning of the statistical concepts used for investigating quantitative ICH Guidelines such as analytical methods validation, procedures and acceptance criteria in calibration limits, and process and Quality Control, as well as with ICH Q8 and Q9.
This entry was posted in Business Service on November 29, 2017 by blue.
Better To Choose Professional Moving Company
Relocation is a task which is not a cup of tea for everyone. It is very well said that one should perform the only work in which he is expert because what an expert can do, can never be done by a layman or untrained. Similarly, relocation is the activity which should be performed by the experts of relocation only and those are, packers and movers. A moving company performs the work with professionalism for which it is set up.
Read the below points and you will know why it is recommended to hire the services of an expert moving company for your move �
Reduces Stress, Save Time and Effort � Apart from packing and moving, several other works are associated with your move, like changing your address on your documents, arranging utilities at new home and many more. If you get involved in packing and moving the things on your own, you won’t be able to complete that work on time. So, by letting the moving company to perform the packing and moving of your goods, you will be free to focus on your other important work. Thus, a moving company not only save your time and efforts but also, reduce your stress a lot.
Works With a Proper Plan � Being expert of their field, they know how to prepare an effective work plan for a movement. They execute the move according to the work plan prepared.
Better organizes things � Keeping the things organized is very important in shifting process to make it easier and smoother. And this can be done only by a professional who is expert in organizing things. Professional packing and moving company have the team of experts who make sure that the things are packed, kept and moved in an organized manner.
Offers Wide Range of Services � With hiring a packer and mover, you can avail a wide range of services like packing, loading, moving, unloading, and unpacking. They offer complete package of services. Even, there are some of the moving companies who render customized services as well according to the needs of customer. Whether you want to move your complete household goods, any vehicle or your office goods, they are ready to provide you expert services.
Uses Right Materials and Tools � Packing and moving are not the tasks which you can perform any how and with any kind of materials. Each and every activity of relocation task is to be performed using right kind of material and equipment which are available with the moving company. They own high quality and required material for packing and appropriate tools and equipment for loading, moving, and unloading.
Ensures Safety and Security of Belongings � We all have packed the bags for vacations. But, just because we dump the stuff in to the bags, we forget where we have kept the things; which thing is in which bag and where it is. But, this is not the case with professional moving companies. They properly label the boxes with the things packed in it and the room it belongs to. Also they number the boxes and keep counting them at every stage like while packing, while loading, while unloading and while unpacking. To ensure the safety and security of the belongings, they properly lock the goods on carrier. In fact, there are some of the companies that allow you to put your own lock on the carrier and keep the keys with you for your assurance like Agarwal Packers and Movers.
This entry was posted in Business Service on November 25, 2017 by blue.
Comcast & Sky Redefine Customer Service
Such companies place more emphasis on customer retention than on quality customer service. From airlines to wireless phone carriers to banks to cable television internet providers and supermarkets, we hear sad stories of bad customer service.
What are some of the reasons that makes companies fail to honor a customer’s request to cancel the services?
The customer is no longer viewed as a human but as a mere source of revenue
Most companies are no longer insisting on offering quality services but on increasing productivity and profits. Call center have become sales centers. This is one reason when a customer calls, and the agents are pitched with everything under the sun instead of actually helping customers find solutions to the issues that made them call in the first place.
Little attention is paid to the value of quality customer service delivery and agents are forced to focus on sales and profitability results and not the on customer needs.
Companies are immensely pressuring agents and staff to upsell and retain customers
Companies pressure their representatives to ensure they retain customers at all cost. Retention specialists are given bonuses when they manage to convince a customer not to leave, but they are punished when they are unsuccessful in retaining a customer. Company’s policies and ethics are mostly to blame in cases where agents pressurize customers against downgrading or disconnecting their services.
Ultimately, a sales agent or a customer retention agent will try to use some of the weapons he has in his arsenal to prevent losing a deal. While these companies focus on wooing and retaining customers, little attention is paid in making customer retention specialist understand the effects poor customer service has on customers’ satisfaction. Customer service involves to the level of a company’s responsiveness, quality communication, morale, and teamwork.
Government�s inability to act against monopolies
Government regulators face a dilemma when dealing with monopolies. Government’s failure to regulate laws on monopolies is part of the reason that monopolistic companies have no rule enforcers to oversee their performance and ascertain that their outcomes are beneficial to consumers and producers.
Regulations should be put in place to force companies to compete. In such a case, supercharged competition will allow new companies to enter the market resulting in consumer sovereignty. Such regulations will also help in simplifying the pricing strategies and service delivery. There is a need for a new competition policy that puts the interest of consumers first.
This entry was posted in Business Service on November 21, 2017 by blue.
Lg Washing Machine Service Center Hyderabad
Then again, hiring a skilled repair man to fix your appliances like the washer can be a pain to your pocket too. It can be still expensive. That’s why you want to get your washer fixed as soon as possible. What you might not realize is that you can troubleshoot a few washing machine issues on your own, before picking up the phone to call a repair professional. Of course, major repairs should be left to the experts to ensure that you don’t damage your unit further by taking apart something you can’t put back together.
If you try to start a wash cycle and nothing happens, don’t panic right away. Check that the machine is plugged into a working electrical outlet; if you aren’t sure whether the outlet is on, try plugging in another appliance, such as a radio, to check the electricity flow. If there’s no power at all, check your home’s electrical panel to ensure that you haven’t tripped a breaker. Reset the circuit breakers as needed. If the outlet works but the machine still does not start its cycle, check the Owner’s Manual or the manufacturer’s Web site for specific operating instructions. You might be missing a key step in the process. For example, some washing machines won’t start until the water reaches a certain fill level. Many washers won’t agitate until the lid is closed.
If your washing machine fills and spins but doesn’t drain, there might be a simple explanation. Check the drain hose for kinks and ensure that the lint filter isn’t full if your model has one. The house itself might also be clogged. Or, the basin into which the washing machine is draining might have a blocked-up drain. In general, the drain hose should always stay above the level of the water in the drain tube; if the hose falls below water level, you might see back-siphoning of water into the machine. If you’ve followed all steps exactly as directed and the washing machine still won’t start, it’s time to call a certified washing machine repair professional.
There are many different parts of a washing machine that can be repaired very easily and if you hire someone that knows what he is doing, this process can be quite quick and easy. In this way, you can get on with your life knowing that it is being taken care of for you. To hire a repair professional, go online and look for a local repairman in your area, someone that has not only experience in this field but also is offering you competitive rates. To find out what they can offer you and obtain quotes, call the contact number and present your problem. The repair man you speak to will offer you free advice on what to do next and possibly call out immediately. LG Washing machine services having well-experienced technicians they are well known each and every problem and how to solve them. Our specialization is doing the front load and top load washing machine which is the main problems.
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Ian Horrocks is a full professor in the Oxford University Department of Computer Science and a visiting professor in the Department of Informatics at the University of Oslo. His research interests include logic-based knowledge representation and reasoning and semantic technologies, with a particular focus on ontology languages and applications. He was an author of the […]
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Dr. Varun Kanade
Varun Kanade is a Research Lecturer in the Department of Computer Science, Oxford University. He has been a Simons Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of California, Berkeley and an FSMP postdoctoral fellow at ENS, Paris. He obtained his Ph.D. from Harvard University in 2012. His research interests are in machine learning and theoretical computer science. […]
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For years conservation experts have focused on planting field crops using no-till. In Pennsylvania, there are now efforts to promote the use of no-till for transplanting vegetable plants.
Traditional methods of plowing and cultivating often leave vegetable fields bare during most of the growing season and throughout the winter months. Because of this continuous soil disturbance, soil erosion rates on vegetable fields are often higher than on fields used to grow field corn, soybeans, or small grains.
Organic farms using cultivation as the only method of weed control find the constant tillage destroys soil structure, reduces organic matter, and soil nutrients.
“ARE YOU ORGANIC??”
We don’t like to limit ourselves to the restrictions of any one methodology. We use many organic practices as well as sustainable and conventional practices that we feel are safe and environmentally sound. Using educated, thoughtful, and specific decision-making, we can grow the highest quality fruits and vegetables in an environmentally, socially, and financially responsible way. Some organic practices are harmful to the environment, such as cultivating weeds and some conventional practices can be harmful as well. We use many bio-controls when feasible but will also use pesticides when necessary.
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Originally a french jeweler with a " Beaux Art school " background , I immigrated to the US in 1986 and 15 years ago , as a hobby , did start restoring my own wooden boat . 3 years later , it became my main activity .
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How To Know If You Have A TMJ Problem With Your Bite
Problems with the way your teeth fit together occur in many different ways. Some bite problems cause discomfort or even pain, and that pain can masquerade as problems that you would not readily associate with your teeth. Some bite problems can cause major damage to your teeth without producing any obvious discomfort.
There are some pretty simple ways that anyone can detect TMJ when a problem with the bite is causing or at least contributing to pain or discomfort.
The clench test: With your mouth empty so there is nothing between your teeth to bite on, close your teeth together and squeeze hard. If clenching your teeth together causes any sign of discomfort in any tooth, you have a disharmony in your bite.
Teeth that are sensitive to cold often get that way from the extra pounding they take if any part of that tooth strikes before the rest of the teeth contact during closure. Use the clench test to see if the extra sensitivity is related to an uneven bite. Squeeze hard. If you can make any tooth hurt by empty mouth clenching, the bite is probably the main reason for the sensitivity. This is a good way to find out if a new filling or crown is "high." If it hurts when you clench, it is probably not in perfect harmony with a correct bite. You should be able to bite hard and grind your teeth together in all directions without feeling discomfort in any tooth if your bite is perfect. The exception to this is if you have advanced periodontal disease, you may have several teeth that can't accept firm biting, but even then, you should not normally feel pain in a single tooth when biting.
If biting hard causes pain or discomfort in the jaw joint, (you may feel it just in front of your ear), you can suspect a possible relationship between your bite and a temporomandibular joint (TMJ) problem. It may be associated with a structural disorder in your TMJ, but more often the pain is coming from certain muscles that move your jaw joints to accommodate a bite that is not in harmony with your TMJs. Your dentist should be able to diagnose the exact source of the pain.
Look for severe wear on your teeth, as this is another sign that your bite is not in harmony. If you have worn all the enamel off the biting edges of your teeth, you will see a darker colored surface. This is dentin and it will wear down seven times faster than the much harder enamel that you've already worn through. So ask your dentist to evaluate what is causing so much wear. This wear can be especially damaging when it is on your front teeth, so if you notice your lower front teeth have worn down to dentin, have your bite checked. Better yet, don't wait till all the enamel is gone. Schedule a visit to your dentist office. Correcting your bite may stop or at least slow down the wear process.
By Peter E. Dawson, DDS
How Malocclusion or Bad Bite Relates To Different Dental Problems
It is ironic that one of the most common dental disorders is also the most neglected, malocclusion, bad bite. The way the teeth fit together when the jaw closes and chews is of profound importance to the long-term health of your teeth.
If surfaces of the teeth interfere with how the jaw moves, the teeth can be worked loose or the enamel can be worn away this is know an malocclusion, bad bite. The muscles that move the jaw are very powerful and can do major damage to the teeth when the biting surfaces don't fit together properly.
The problem can be compounded if teeth interfere with functional muscle patterns, the jaw muscles will attempt to "erase" the part of the tooth that interferes by grinding against it all the more. This can lead to even more severe wear or it may crack off a cusp or split the tooth. Or it may loosen the tooth or cause it to move out of alignment. The excessive muscle activity often results in pain in the muscle itself. All of the jaw muscles can become sore including the temporal muscles that are the source of many so-called tension headaches.
Some excessive muscle activity may be caused by emotional stress. But with some special exceptions, damage done by stress induced grinding and clenching can be minimized to a manageable level by equalizing the biting surfaces that are in conflict with jaw movements.
The power of the jaw muscles may surprise you. Some people can exert over 900 pounds of compressive force with their jaw muscles so you can imagine how much damage such force can do when you close into a single tooth and then work it from side to side. The effect is very much like working a fence post loose as the bone around the root breaks down. If you can put your finger on any tooth in your mouth, and then squeezing your teeth together causes the tooth to move, you can be sure that it is just a matter of time before there will be a problem with that tooth.
Sometimes in malocclusion, bad bite the muscle forces that work the tooth sideways stimulates bone around the root to build up and become stronger. When that happens, the tooth actually bends in its socket and this creates a microscopic chipping away close to the gum line to form a deep groove in the tooth. This is called an abfraction. These deep grooves at the gum line are often mistaken for toothbrush abrasion, but scientists have shown us that the grooves are actually the results of bending of the tooth in its socket. These grooves can lead to much sensitivity in those teeth because the opening into the tooth exposes nerves that can be exquisitely sensitive. Correction of the bite to remove excessive lateral forces on the teeth in most instances either eliminates the sensitivity completely or reduces it to a much more acceptable level.
Patients should be aware that much confusion surrounds the importance of a harmonious bite, including many misconceptions that have been fostered by flawed research that has failed to properly relate the bite interferences to the position and condition of the temporomandibular joints. Knowledgeable clinicians, however, are very much aware of this relationship and can achieve excellent results in making both your teeth and your jaw muscles more comfortable by bringing your whole biting into harmony and avoiding malocclusion, bad bite.
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PLANETARY PINBALL - Order Information Guide
Please read thru this information on ordering, if you have any questions, please contact PLANETARY PINBALL via our HELPDESK. Our focus is on supreme customer service and great value, so if there are any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Table of Contents
HOW TO ORDER
QUICK ADD FEATURE
SAVE / RESTORE SHOPPING CART
WHAT FORMS OF PAYMENT ARE ACCEPTED
SHIPPING CHOICES
SALES OR IMPORT TAXES
LOST PASSWORD
RETURNS, EXCHANGES, DAMAGED ITEMS
CANCELLATION POLICY
LOST PACKAGE
ITEMS NOT IN STOCK
HOW TO CONTACT US
DEALER INQUIRIES / DEALER PRICING
REWARD POINTS – P3
DISPUTES
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
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HOW DO I ORDER FROM PLANETARY PINBALL [#order]
Ordering is easy with our on-line store - you add items to an on-line shopping cart by entering each section and selecting the item and quantity that you would like to purchase. Additionally, you can search for items in the entire store by clicking on the "Search" button on the top of every store page. Finally, you can see the entire contents by category of parts or game by going to the RH column on each page and selecting the appropriate category (‘Parts Category Index’, ‘WILLIAMS/BALLY 1990-2000’, etc). When you are done adding items to the shopping cart, click ‘Checkout’ (upper RH of page) to enter billing, shipping, and payment information. You will receive an e-mail confirmation of your order.
If you are unable to create an order online, or there are problems (sometimes with older versions of web browsers, etc), it is best to a) either try another browser on your computer or device -or- b) clear all cookies in your browser -or- c) try a different computer or device. Almost every time the issue is with the customer’s setup and we are not able to troubleshoot your computer.
QUICK ADD FEATURE [#quick_add]
Two major features are available on the store to ease ordering:
Quick Add: If you know the PPS part numbers – with Quick add you can quickly enter a list of part #’s and quantities to put into your cart on one page. To get there go to the ONLINE STORE pull-down on TOP of the page (left) and click on QUICK ADD. There are two ways to do this:
1) Quick Add Cart (LH Side) – simply enter a list of part #’s and quantities and enter the QUICK ADD button and will be entered into the cart for normal checkout.
2) Search & Add To Cart (RH Side) – here you can search for items and then add the items that you want from that search in the based quickly and easily. Great for a group of items that you want to add that use the same search string.
SAVE / RESTORE CART [#save_cart]
Many times customers want to build up an order thru several sessions. You can do that within our store by Saving your cart and then Restoring it to add to it or to checkout your order.
NOTE: you must be logged in for this feature to work.
When you have items in your cart – you can hover over the red ACCOUNT/LOGIN button (upper RH) and click on the pull-down SAVE / RESTORE CART
This will give you access to saving a file on your computer which includes the cart items – you can click on SAVE CART which will save the cart to a local file.
At that time you have additional operations:
DELETE SAVED CART – remove the locally saved cart
OVERWRITE SAVED CART – erase what was there and save what is currently in your basket
CLEAR CART – clear all items from your cart
RESTORE SAVED CART – restore what you had previously saved and either add more or checkout
A usual operation would be to a) Add items to your cart, b) SAVE CART, c) Come back later in a new session and RESTORE SAVED CART, d) then add more items and e) either SAVE or Checkout your Cart.
WHAT FORMS OF PAYMENT ARE ACCEPTED [#payment]
PLANETARY PINBALL accepts a number of payment options for the on-line orders. We accept Credit Card, Paypal, and Debit Cards.
WHAT ARE THE SHIPPING CHOICES [#shipping]
Shipping charges are calculated automatically at checkout. Options for shipping include USPS (Priority Mail is recommended for US), UPS, and Fedex is also an option. IMPORTANT: You are responsible for insurance for your items. Insurance is an option for all items purchased. If you select standard USPS (no insurance), and the package is lost or damaged, you will be responsible for the loss.
ADDITIONAL CHARGES MAY APPLY: Automatically generated shipping charges will be checked and will be adjusted (and confirmed with you before the order is shipped). Adjustments may be for any of the following: oversized or heavy orders, unavailability of a shipping option at that time. PLANETARY PINBALL will contain you if additional charges apply and get your confirmation. There will be times that the store cannot calculate correctly the size of the box(s), this is especially true when ordering Trim with other items which are not long and thin.
CHECK the shipping charges: shipping charges are calculated automatically based on the destination location, the shipping carrier, and total weight of the package. It is our intention to charge you the closest to the actual shipping cost as possible (which is not always what the shipper charges us - for example if we 'self-insure' the package, etc). But, if you don't feel that the shipping charge is correct or appropriate, send create a helpdesk ticket, and we will check and either explain or correct.
LOCAL PICKUP: For Local customer orders in Northern Nevada (Sparks, NV), there is a shipping option for Local Pick-up / Local Delivery – use this option to pickup the order from our warehouse location. You will be notified with some details and asked a time slot that you will pick up your order. You will be given final instructions and then proceed to pickup the item. Note, we do not run a retail outlet, so pickup will be limited to picking up your order only.
SHIPPING: Shipping will usually occur within 1-2 days of the order, possibly longer if a complex order or customer input is required. Customer will be notified of items not in stock and have the option to request those items be backordered.
INSURANCE: Insure your packages! Without insurance if your package is lost or misdelivered it will be your responsibility.
SALES OR IMPORT TAXES [#taxes]
TAXES: PLANETARY PINBALL will charge US Sales Tax when we are required to do so, generally in the state of Nevada. Other states may be required based on Wayfair criterion. In any event, if you are not charged sales tax in your state on your order, then it is your responsibility to do so if required.
EXEMPTION CERTIFICATES FOR RESELLERS: Whether you are a PPS reseller or not, if you are reselling our items, then we request that you send us a completed sales tax exemption certificate (SST, MTC) so that if we are required to change sales tax in your state we will have you as exempt. NOTE if we believe that you are reselling items and you do not have a current sales tax exemption certificate we reserve the right to cancel orders unless and until such a certificate has been received by PPS.
EXPORT TAXES: PPS will generally not charge Import Tariffs – that is the responsibility of the customer. VAT, GST, and other type taxes are not usually processed in International orders. Additionally, any special Import Duties are the responsibility of the customer and are not included in the total for the order.
Please do not ask us to alter the sales amount for Customs paperwork, we run a legitimate business and will not falsify customs documents. The value of the shipment will be the dollar amount of the order (not including shipping). We will also use the Harmonized tariff code of 9504.30.00.60 for your parts order.
LOST PASSWORD [#lost_pwd]
If you forget or otherwise lose your password, then under the ACCOUNT/LOGIN click on ‘Forgot password?’ – then you can enter the email account associated with the account. You should receive an email shortly with a link to reset your password. When you click on that link you will see a new temporary password and you can then login. You can then go to account information and change your password to something that you will remember.
NOTE: if you do not remember your email address -or- your email address is no longer valid – we cannot fix that problem as we cannot authenticate you. The best option is to create a new account name and write down or otherwise remember the email address and password.
RETURNS, EXCHANGES, DAMAGED ITEMS [#order_issue]
Refunds or Exchanges will be limited to items purchased from PLANETARY PINBALL ten (10) days from date of receipt of the order. No returns or exchanges will be made after 10 days from receipt of the order - please check your order as it is received. We must receive a HELPDESK ticket from you within within that timeframe.
Depending on the issue, the following is the general policy:
Damaged in Shipment
Electronic Item does not work:
Customer may be directed to OEM for Warranty service.
Exchange only with Approval (OEM)
Quality Issue
Customer include pictures/description in ticket
PPS will evaluate issue if quality issue then PPS will issue a return shipping ticket, and customer will return original item. PPS will then ship out the replacement item no charge.
Missing item / Incorrect Item
Please check carefully as many items find their way into packing materials, etc.
If PPS agrees on the issue, depending on the situation will issue a return shipping label, as well as ship out the correct item. Customer will not be required to pay for shipping.
Shipping costs are NOT refundable, refunds are issued for the original purchase price of items only minus a 15% re-stocking charge. PLANETARY PINBALL will refund against your original payment (credit card, paypal, etc) and may take several days to process and be reflected, after receipt of the original item.
Some items are not returnable: Electronic Components, Displays, Used Items.
Any items returned must be in the same condition as when they were shipped, in the ORIGINAL packaging. Customer is responsible for the costs for any items sent back unless agreed upon beforehand by PLANETARY PINBALL.
For items damaged in shipping, if the item was not insured, this is unfortunately your loss, there is nothing that we can do - we ship frequently, and package items based on how we think is appropriate and have a very high rate of getting packages thru without damage.
If your package has items damaged and you are insured - immediately contact PLANETARY PINBALL as well as the shipper (USPS, Stamps.Com, UPS, FedEx), and file a claim. Be sure to keep all of the original packaging intact and packing materials. Depending on the value of the claim there may be a requirement to have the shipper pick up the package, and inspect - a normal part of the process. Note: PLANETARY PINBALL cannot refund immediately, as the refund recipient needs to be determined. If it is PLANETARY PINBALL, we can then proceed with a refund or a replacement item. If it is you the customer, then you are free to re-order as you wish.
CANCELLATION POLICY [#cancel]
If you order an item and you need to cancel, you must file a HELPDESK ticket immediately indicating the need and the reason to cancel the order. Note that orders often ship the same day as ordering, so sometimes it is not possible to let us know before the order has shipped.
If the order HAS NOT shipped: we will notify you that we are cancelling the order and that a refund will be pending. Note that a refund to your account may take several days to execute and clear.
If the order HAS shipped: we will notify you that the order shipped and provide options. Generally we will try to intercept with the carrier and have the package returned – if that is not able to be done, then customer is responsible for returning the order at customer’s expense. In either case the Customer will be responsible for the outbound shipping costs that cannot be recovered.
Planetary Pinball, although rarely done, may at it’s discretion cancel orders or refuse service to customers. Some examples of reasons include: false information, non-verifiable address, suspected fraudulent transaction, customer harassment, customer will not pay required additional shipping charges, customer purchasing items for resale without
*** NOTE: PPS does not discriminate against people based on Race, Color, Ethnicity, National Origin, Religion, Gender, Gender Identity, Sexual Orientation, Disability - or any other characteristic protected under applicable law.
LOST PACKAGE [#lost_package]
Lost packages rarely happen, as often the package is returned, or mis-delivered to a different address. If you suspect your package is delayed beyond what is reasonable, note that most carriers even with tracking may require up to XX days before they consider a package lost.
If your package shows DELIVERED, but you do not have the package, then a)
Check very carefully around the location, or possibly with other people who may have accepted the package on your behalf.
If you do not find it then IMMEDIATELY contact your local carrier and ideally talk the person who would have that route and tell them that a package shows delivered, but you do not have it. Have them search for the package. Note that we cannot contact your local post office as we do not have the authority to have them search on a customer’s behalf – it must be the customer. Have them verify the tracking and explain the situation.
If the package is still not found you will need to file a claim with either a) the local carrier, or b) with your homeowners policy as a stolen package. PPS cannot be responsible for errors caused by mis-delivery by a delivery service or a stolen package.
If your package has not been delivered in a long period of time, or the tracking shows an issue then:
File a helpdesk ticket and let us know the issue. We will look at the tracking and will initiate a request with the carrier to let us know the status of the shipment.
If the carrier indicates that the package is lost, PPS will file a claim. At that point we will then resend the package.
ITEMS NOT IN STOCK [#no_stock]
If an item is not in stock then you have the option to be notified when (and if) the item is back in stock. On the item page you simply add your email to where it says "Add to Waitlist" and you will be notified when the part is back in stock.
Occasionally, Items that you have ordered will not be available for immediate shipment. When this occurs, the customer will be notified of what item(s) is not available and our best estimate of when (and if) the item will be back in stock. We will then provide one or more options to resolve the out of stock item. PLANETARY PINBALL can backorder items, and will ship when they arrive or we can cancel the item from your order and refund.
HOW TO CONTACT US [#contact]
Use the HELPDESK.
Contact PLANETARY PINBALL thru the HELPDESK! This is the primary way, as your ticket will be routed to the correct resource to get the best most timely answer. The helpdesk link is HERE .
DEALER INQUIRIES / DEALER PRICING [#dealer]
PPS does have a Dealer program which is designed for those businesses who regularly order parts for their customers needs, and generally do stock and maintain large quantities of parts. Dealers have discounted pricing when they log in to the store.
The following types of business will be considered:
Pinball Restoration
Entertainment Centers / Arcades
Pinball Repair / Servicing
Pinball Shops – online and physical
In order to be considered as a DEALER, we would need the following information to dealers@planetarypinball.com
Business Name, Contact Information (address, contact email, contact name)
Description of your business, who your customers are, and types of items you would be purchasing
Send this information to: dealers@planetarypinball.com
Upon review and acceptance into the dealer program, we will send you a message indicating that you have been accepted into the program.
For US Dealers – you will need to provide a CURRENT SIGNED Resale Certificate, as well as your TAX Certificate for your STATE
For International Dealers – nothing additional is required
REWARD POINTS – P3 [#points]
Planetary Pinball recognizes it’s most important part of the business – YOU The Customer!
We have implemented a customer points program which rewards those who shop with us – the more product you buy the more your points are worth, and best of all you can ‘pay’ for items using your points balance!
What’s even better is that we will be running additional specials to make your points even more valuable from time to time. This on top of our already low prices on Pinball Parts, Addons, and Merchandise. It’s like having a ‘cash back’ credit card for pinball parts!
PPS at any time can offer points promotions which include point multipliers on specific products and categories as well as other promotions. Also PPS may offer to different those with different levels of points different promotions. To get started you can monitor the level that you are currently at:
Total Points Level
$500 1
$1000 2
$2500 3
$5000 4
$10000 5
You can get started right now – once logged into the PPS store you will see your current points balance as well as you can pay with points for all or a partial amount with the points that you have. The more points in your balance the more they are worth.
IMPORTANT NOTES: Terms & Conditions – Planetary Pinball Points – P3
By using or accepting any P3 benefits you are agreeing to these Terms & Conditions
Points are only accumulated for customers who have logged in and make purchases - we are not responsible for lost points due to not being logged in, having multiple accounts, technical glitches, etc.
Points are non-transferable and may not be combined with another user’s points.
Game Sales and/or Game Deposits are NOT eligible to accrue points - also you cannot use points to redeem against Game Sales and/or Game Deposits .
PPS reserves the rights to restrict points accrual and points usage for specific items at any time
Points expire 1 year from when they are added to your balance – usually via a qualified item purchase.
Points are not redeemable for cash – they are only redeemed for in-stock items within the Planetary Pinball Retail Store
The awarding of points and the redemption of rewards are void where prohibited by law.
Not all items accumulate points and PPS has the right to change where and how points are accumulated at any time for any reason.
Resellers and Dealers are specifically excluded from the program. If you purchase items for resale, we reserve the right not to award points, to deduct improperly awarded points,.We have the sole discretion over whether to deem any purchase a “purchase for resale”.
PPS has the right to terminate the P3 program at any time for any reason or no reason and with or without notice.
The PPS Points program is created and controlled by Planetary Pinball Retail in the State of Nevada in Washoe County. As such, the laws of the State of Nevada will govern these disclaimers, terms & conditions, without giving effect to any principles of conflicts of laws. You hereby consent to the exclusive jurisdiction of courts located in Washoe County, NV in all disputes arising out of or relating to these terms and conditions or the program.
DISPUTES [#dispute]
PPS is dedicated to addressing customer issues as quickly as we can. Sometimes this is more difficult for various reasons (pictures are required, shipping claim, supplier needs to be involved, etc). We have an exceptional reputation for handling customer issues. Within 10 (ten) days of receiving your order is the key window for letting us know of an issue thru the HELPDESK ticket.
DO NOT FILE A DISPUTE first! What this does is tie our hands in many ways that prevent us from giving you the best options and explanations. Without this, this is not a fair situation if we cannot address an issue before a payment provider gets involved, and may limit what we can do to address the issue. Certainly if a customer is not satisfied with our attempt to resolve then they can always file a dispute with their payment provider.
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS [#faq]
FAQ#1: [#faq1]
Q: Where are you located?
A: We are located in Northern Nevada in the Reno/Sparks Area near the California Border with Nevada, PST
FAQ#2: [#faq2]
Q: Do you have a local retail counter?
A: No, we are an online store, with a local pickup option only for local (Northern Nevada) customers.
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With over 250 international exhibitors set to showcase their hair and nail care products and services at Beautyworld Middle East 2014, the Hair and Nails section at the region’s largest international beauty and wellness trading platform will be an area of high interest.
Organiser Epoc Messe Frankfurt also revealed that there is considerable interest in the sector among local and regional brands, many of whom will make their presence felt at the upcoming edition of the show.
Hair and Nail products and solutions are traditionally among the most sought after by regional trade buyers – 30% of the trade visitors attending previous editions of Beautyworld Middle East were interested in hair care products and services, while 20% of the total was in search of nail care solutions.
According to analysts Euromonitor International, the hair care market in the Middle East and Africa was worth as much as US$ 5.8 billion in 2012, with the Saudi Arabian market estimated to be worth US$ 708 million by 2017. The UAE market for hair products is expected to grow 27% between 2012 and 2017 to reach an estimated $175 million. Nail care also continues to grow at a robust pace in the region, with nail polish replacing lipstick as the most purchased item over the last five years.
“Hair and Nails has always been a high-interest category for international and regional exhibitors at Beautyworld Middle East,” said Ahmed Pauwels, CEO of Epoc Messe Frankfurt. “The continuing growth in exhibitor interest in the region underscores not only the vast potential that exists in the wider MENA region, but also
the effectiveness of Beautyworld Middle East as a platform that enables exhibitors to interact with and access buyers in these markets.”
Leading the regional presence in the Hair and Nails category are: Madi International, who is an established name in the beauty business in the GCC and Levant with their range of hair and nail solutions; Nazih Trading – hair and beauty experts who represent OPI, amongst others; Be Connected, the manufacturer of the popular Koko nails and Sawaya Trading, distributors of Orly and Gelish.
Beautyworld Middle East has always been the ideal vehicle to showcase our range of products and services to the wider region of the beauty industry,” said Nazih Hamad, Chairman of Nazih Group. “We are regular exhibitors here and hope to continue to have positive experiences in the future. It is The Place for professional hairdressers and beauty manufacturers.”
Nazih Trading will be organising the popular Nail It! by OPI at Beautyworld Middle East 2014. A popular platform for regional nail care professionals and nail artistes to showcase their talent, Nail It! by OPI attracts competition from across the GCC.
Madi International will be organising the ever-popular Walk of Beauty for the ninth successive year at Beautyworld Middle East 2014. This year the show will focus on the latest trends and innovations in hair, nail and skin care as well as professional makeovers.
Mr. Mohammed Madi President of Madi International group said: “We look forward to another standout year at Beautyworld Middle East 2014. The show is unsurpassed in reach and influence and is the ideal place to scout new business contacts and catch up with our regular customers. We are completely overwhelmed with the Walk of Beauty preparations especially considering that we will be unveiling three new international star brands.”
Beautyworld Middle East 2014 is set to bring together an unmatched range of international and regional exhibitors, representing a majority of the leading brands in contact with one of the world’s most exciting marketplaces.
Beautyworld Middle East 2013, set new records in terms of both exhibitor participation as well as trade visitor turnout. 1089 participating exhibitors from as many as 51 different countries made the 2013 edition very widely representative in nature. Apart from Hair and Nails, the exhibition features the following focus groups: Cosmetics and Skincare, Fragrance, Machinery, Packaging and Raw Material and Professional Equipment and Spa.
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HMP Oakwood in Staffordshire, England came top in 2017 with the highest number of entries to the Koeslter Awards. Koestler challenged establishments sending in entries to beat their 98 this year.
In April 2018 PAF submitted 166 entries on behalf of our workshop participants engaging in our ‘Residency’ programme in HMP Maghaberry, HMP Magilligan and Hydebank Wood College. For the first time this year’s entries also include art works, recordings of writing and live performances by mentees taking part in our pilot community based ‘Arts Mentoring’ programme.
Our Libération showcase event held in the Crumlin Road Gaol won a First-Time entrant Award for Art Project. We wanted to give all of our participants a platform and a challenge to display their work as authentic artists. When individuals see themselves as worthy to put their individual artistic expression in public for others to engage with, it’s empowering! After a successful exhibition, participants may wonder what else they can do in the public realm. For participants lacking self-esteem, putting up work with peers can boost academic and artistic confidence. This year we were able to include mentees in the process carrying out a successful exhibition, this gave them the opportunity to engage in the entire artistic process, from conception, to creation, to communication with an audience. We hope that this experience will have a profound influence on those mentees for years to come.
PAF entrants won an impressive 72 awards in total this year’s Koestler results, our highest achievement to date. The total prize money awarded to our entrants was £1020 and the number of talented artists, writers, musicians and performers receiving individual or group awards was 127.
This years award success includes
6 Gold Awards
9 Silver Awards
7 Bronze Awards
23 Highly Commended Awards
19 Commended Awards
8 First Time Entrant Awards
‘I’m Still Here’ ran from 19 Sept – 4 Nov 2018 in the Southbank Centre, London. It was an exhibition of artwork entered into the 2018 Koestler Awards, selected by families supporting someone inside. Each family selected artworks that spoke to them, and illustrated their experiences. The exhibition featured the diverse range of art, writing and music being created by prisoners, secure patients and detainees, as well as people on community sentences, across the UK. Our entrants were proud to have 10 pieces included in the exhibition.
We have created a visual gallery for you to look at, showcasing some of the winning art and other works:
A Day Out at the Market
Silver Award for Painting PAF Mentee JM
Hands of Time
Zelda Cheatle Commended Award for Photography PAF Mentee SG
Hard Times
Commended Award for Photography PAF Mentee SG
Minds Eye
Commended Award for Painting PAF Mentee JM
Reflections
Silver Award for Photography PAF Mentee SG
The Bird (2017)
Highly Commended Award for Painting PAF Mentee CJ
The Thinking Man
Bronze Award for Painting PAF Mentee JM
Absence
Renee Cressey Highly Commended Award for Textile Art PAF Mentee RZ
Ali
Highly Commended Award for Portrait PAF Mentee SG
Escape
Artists' Collecting Society Gold Award for Printmaking PAF Mentee RZ
Support
Matthew Cornish Highly Commended Award for Textile Art PAF Mentee RZ
Daddy's Boy
First-Time Entrant Award for Themed HMP Maghaberry entrant
Hits the Right Note
Highly Commended Award for Woodcraft HMP Maghaberry entrant
Hope
Highly Commended Award for Craft Inspiring Change group entry with Edward Street Hostel Simon Community NI
I Love you
Selected by families supporting someone inside for the I'm Still Here exhibition at Southbank Centre London HMP Maghaberry entrant
Time In Issue 10
Highly Commended Award for Graphic Design HMP Magilligan Creative Writing group
Time In Issue 11
Highly Commended Award for Graphic Design HMP Magilligan Creative Writing group
Visiting Hour - A collection of short stories
Highly Commended Award for Anthology HMP Magilligan Creative Writing group
We who Live in Prison
Highly Commended Award for Poetry Collection HMP Magilligan Creative Writing group
Moving Forward
First-Time Entrant Award for Craft Selected by families supporting someone inside for the I'm Still Here exhibition at Southbank Centre London PAF Mentee CJ
Summer Days (2017)
Commended Award for Painting PAF Mentee CJ
Escape
Commended Award for Mural and Wall Hanging Inspiring Change project with patients in Shannon Clinic
The Dream that Never Was?
Highly Commended Award for Craft HMP Maghaberry entrant
Another entrant who won Silver in the ‘Stage Play’ category was given the opportunity to have their work showcased by Synergy Theatre Company at Royal Court Theatre in London on 3rd October 2018. Read Inside time UK article on the event and the three winners HERE
“Just wanted to say ‘thank you’ for everything. It was great to meet you and the folks from Synergy. I really enjoyed our time in the Royal Court Theatre. I was a wee bit apprehensive about the event beforehand, but everyone made us feel welcome and valued. Thanks again for the opportunity to see my play actually being performed. It was an experience I’ll never forget.” – PAF Entrant JC
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I've Tied Myself to You
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We who Live in Prison
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Utopia
Eclectic Prog
3.15 | 59 ratings
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Oops, wrong direction!
The follow up to the excellent "Ra" and the second album by the long lasting four man Utopia line up, "Oops wrong planet" is a far more commercial offering, consisting of a batch of pretty straightforward songs. It does contain one gem "Love is the answer", a wonderfully moving piece which was translated into a successful hit single by England Dan and John Ford Coley. It stands head and shoulder above the others, as a Rundgren mini-masterpiece.
There is none of the prog experimentation or more complex tracks which appeared on previous albums here, the songs are all basic pop rock. In all there are 12 tracks, six on each side, the longest being a shade over 4 minutes. Each song has a simple verse chorus type structure. The album title bears no direct relationship to any of the songs (but see below), there's certainly no concept here, or indeed anything to link any of the tracks together.
The opening "Trapped" uses a favourite tool of Argent's Russ Ballard, where he takes a word and develops a song around it. It is effective when used in moderation, and this Rundgren composition is attention grabbing in its own way. Roger Powell takes lead vocal for his own composition "Windows", a softer piece which features Beach Boys like harmonies and some nice synth.
"Love in action" has some of Rundgren's most atrocious lyrics ever; "Yes you could be the last trace of the master race, the Nazis really send you to another place. Still you can't stop it, you can't stop love in action."
The song itself is enjoyable if lyrically superficial. John "Willie" Wilcox becomes the vocalist for his joint composition with Todd, "Crazy lady blue", a standard love ballad. The democracy extends to all four band members when bassist Kasim Sultan sings Todd's "Back on the street", an examination of the challenges facing a criminal when he has served his time, and is released back into society. The lyrics are certainly more thought provoking that the rather prosaic melody.
The first side is completed by "The marriage of heaven and hell", which does include the line "I must be on the wrong planet". While the first half of the song is a rather ordinary new wave type number, the latter half becomes a repetitive anthem.
Todd dominates the song-writing on the second side, collaborating with other band members on all but the last two songs. Kasim returns to centre stage to sing "The martyr", an impressive power ballad with the rest of the band proving strong backing harmonies. Todd adds a fine guitar solo to this, one of the album's stand out tracks. Powell brings out his trumpet for the funky, TSOP like "Abandon city". While it is good to see the band exploring other directions, this is one they should have overlooked.
"Gangrene" plumbs new depths lyrically and melodically, even the most deranged of punk bands would have passed on this turkey. Fortunately Powell and Rundgren restore some sort of order with "My angel", but it sounds like it would have been better placed on one of Todd's solo albums. Todd, whose voice ventures into the higher ranges, even plays sax on the track. "Rape of the young" includes some very pointed lyrics addressed to such people as "Mr. Exxon", "Mr. Chrysler", "Mr. General" and "Mr President". Once again though, the song itself is dull and prefunctory. The album closes with the aforementioned "Love is the answer" a Rundgren solo composition and pretty much a solo rendition. The closing section of the track builds wonderfully through a repetitious chorus making for a memorable conclusion to the album.
For me, this was pretty much the end of the road for Utopia. This album signalled that Todd and the rest of the band had completed their dabbling in prog, and decided to focus entirely on seeking commercial success. The decision proved to be misguided, as their sales continued to decline with successive albums. "Oops wrong planet" has just about enough of the good old days about it to make it worthwhile, but it is nothing like as impressive as the preceding "Ra". On the other hand, nothing which came after was even up to this standard.
Have a look at the band mug-shots on the rear of the sleeve by the way. They look like the wanted ads for a particularly surly bunch of criminals!
Easy Livin | 3/5 | 2007-8-28
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The smaller room has a roof and a place for a sink. It’s not hooked up at the moment. It might be a good place for making PCBs or for 3d printers and laser cutters. The area above may be usable as a loft.
The larger room has some support and could be covered to contain wood and metal dust from a shop.
View to the North showing the main entrance door.
East showing the smaller room and the (possible) crenelated loft.
South-East showing the larger, open topped room.
Veiw to the South-West showing the large windows on the West wall, and the double doors leading outside to the South.
The high ceilings and big windows give plenty of light in the daytime. The big beams look strong enough to support some additional weight, and it looks like there used to be a loading crane near the double doors leading outside.
The view outside the double doors. Watch that first step! The area to the left of the door might be a good place to experiment with casting metals.
There was a possibility to use this outdoor 30×30 shed, but it is slated to be demolished.
View of the area outside the back. There will be construction going on out here as they re-develop this area, so we may be limited on access.
I hope you agree that this space is full of possibilities!
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aarobc says:
September 9, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Neat, what are the membership fees going to be like? I’m amused how close it is to the original location, but also kinda makes me sad. I miss the old times.
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john says:
September 9, 2014 at 11:02 pm
I’m thinking memberships will be about $50/month, kind of like The Transistor, but we have some leeway. Let’s bring back the good times!
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Flying4Fun says:
September 10, 2014 at 3:06 pm
Looks good. I’m excited to see how this works out. Keep me posted on updates.
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Mark-Anthony says:
September 10, 2014 at 4:52 pm
We’d love to have you talk to our meetup group! Email me.
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Adam Klosowiak says:
July 7, 2015 at 8:25 am
Hi,
We’re a carbon fiber guitar company and we’re looking for a space in Provo to work for the next year. Please let us know if this new space would make more sense for us. We just finished a successful Kickstarter and have a new website up and running.
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The Central Pacific Railway started operations in 1899 and stopped service in 1959 for a total period of operations of 60 years.
After the Civil War railroads exploded in the US with hundreds of lines starting service all over the country. This was the the age of steam locomotives and rail travel was still a luxury. Central Pacific Railway items from this time period can be very valuable and items of most types that predate 1900 will be valuable if they are in good condition. Many collectors are looking for antique railroadiana that dates before 1900 so there is a strong market for anyone looking to sell.
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Central Pacific Railway operated routes across 4 states, this is an average amount across most railroads and is typical of small to mid size Eastern Railroads or mid size Western Railroads. Items from railroads of this size tend to be of average rarity so there usually isn't much of a premium price on items from these railroads unless the item is particularly hard to find
Central Pacific Railway Operated Routes in the Following States: California, Nevada, Oregon, Utah
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07-11-2018
Liu Yiqian
9.7
13-02-2018
Anonymous
Positive:
Lovely spacious apartment all amenities needed for a short break
Negative:
apartment sleeps 8+ but only only 2 keys provided
9.8
23-05-2016
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20-05-2016
Timothy Ryan
8.8
10-11-2015
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9.9
17-06-2015
Matthew Price
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Beach views, apartment location, space, couches, beds.
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07-10-2014
Roman Golikov
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Staff, location, see view
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There was a furniture that could be renovated
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07-09-2014
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06-03-2014
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Fantastic apartment for our needs, friendly service, easy to check in and out and store our luggage. Overall, great experience. Would definitely rent from renttop again!
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Close to public transportation and in a quiet neighborhood. Owner helpful in getting information. Felt like we actually lived in the city.
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05-09-2011
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it was a great experience ,we loved this apartment so much and the only problem we had was the strength of the water in shower upstairs.
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11-07-2011
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The apartment was very well appointed and maintained; it was very quiet and had a comfortable bed and nice balcony. The dryer didn't work (it continuously popped open after a minute or so, even with a very small load). Everything else was in good working condition.
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02-07-2011
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We spent a perfect holiday there in Barcelona and in your apartment! It was perfect for us and the staff was always available! Thank you!
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21-06-2011
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Hi there Just wanted to say a "BIG THANKYOU" to Shinead for all her help the weekend we stayed in Barcelona. We thought she was great! We all had a fantastic time and we loved the apartment! Many thanks Jo
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Hi Had a great time staying in your apartment on Selva de Mar. The facilities in the apartment were excellent. It was ideal for the two families who were sharing as the kitchen was well equipped if we chose to stay in and make a meal. Alternatively there was a wide selection of restaurants nearby and great shopping at Diagonal Mar!. Two minute walk to the beach which had sunbeds but no parasols (bear this in mind if you are going in the height of summer because it was baking hot!) Plenty of big waves for the kids to play in but the sea might be a bit too rough there for young kids. The beach area further along the coast was more developed and busy but not tacky. Would definitely recommend these apartments and Jorge (our contact) was very helpful - sorted out taxis back to the airport for our big group. We had another apartment in the building opposite as there were 12 in our group and this was really nice too though one of the rooms had bunk beds which was OK for our party but might not suit everyone - especially after too much Sangria! Quality apartments with all the mod. cons you could possible - wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.
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HUTB-001754
Exclusive duplex penthouse with incredible sea views. Situated on the 16th floor in Diagonal Mar. It is ideal for families and groups on vacation and business seeking a touch of luxury for their stay in one of Europe´s most beautiful cities.
There are 4 double bedrooms: one with a double bed and the other three with two twin beds in each, which can be made into doubles on request. All bedrooms have spacious built in closets and the master bedroom is en-suite. All 3 bathrooms have impeccable marble finish and completed in neutral tones.
Thanks to the huge windows, the living room has plenty of natural light and a spectacular view of the sea. If you prefer to dine out, it has a terrace with dining table and chairs to enjoy an afternoon or evening with your family or friends.
The apartment is equipped with everything you may need for a comfortable stay. Includes towels, bed linens, hair dryer, shower gel and shampoo. The kitchen has all the utensils for a quotidian use. You will also find a dishwasher, washing machine and a dryer. There is Wi-Fi internet throughout the apartment.
The apartment is situated in an exclusive complex with 2 swimming pools (including one children´s shallow pool) with changing area, children´s playground and 24 hour security. The area is perfect for those seeking a relaxed Mediterranean break with the beach just on the doorstep and the Gothic quarter of the city just a few stops away by direct metro line. The metro station Selva de Mar is just 5 minutes walk from the apartment. The area has everything you need for your stay including large shopping center Diagonal Mar with all major high street retailers, a large hypermarket and communal parks and gardens. Nearby is the Port Olimpic district with the marina, the casino and much of Barcelona´s nightlife.
An excellent choice for combining a beach and city break!
CHECK-IN INSTRUCTIONS:
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Check out before 11:00.
We will always attempt to accommodate early arrivals and late departures, but this will depend on previous/following bookings and have additional costs that vary depending on arrival time.
Kindly note that check-ins after 9 p.m. have an extra cost: Check-ins between 9 p.m. and 11:45 p.m. have an extra charge of 30€, between 11:45 p.m. and 1:30 a.m. it will be 60€ and after 1:30 a.m. is only upon prior confirmation and extra charge (TO BE CONFIRMED).
Please, make sure you give us a call 30 minutes before you get to the apartment.
HOUSE RULES:
Clients are committed to act with the utmost courtesy and respect towards neighbors and other apartment building residents.
Loud noise after 10 p.m. and general acts of disrespect will not be tolerated as well as complaints. Parties of any nature are strictly prohibited.
The non-fulfillment of any of these norms may result in economic penalties and/or the immediate expulsion of the clients from the apartment without reimbursement and without the right to claim any type of compensation.
The client is expected to leave the apartment in reasonable conditions for cleaning, in the same way the apartment was found on the arrival day. If any of these conditions are not satisfied, we reserve the right to charge an additional cleaning fee.
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Current Topics in Pharmacology
Volume 20
Copyright © 2016 Research Trends. All rights reserved
ABSTRACT
The aim of this study was to investigate the cardiovascular effects of long-term treatment with nifedipine in two distinct stages of early ontogenesis in spontaneously hypertensive rats (SHR). Four- and eight-week-old SHR and age-matched normotensive Wistar rats were treated with nifedipine (50 mg/kg/day) for four weeks. Systolic blood pressure was measured weekly by the tail-cuff technique. At the end of the treatment the animals were sacrificed and rings of their mesenteric arteries were suspended in organ baths and connected to a force-displacement transducer for measuring their reactivity under isometric condition. Neurogenic contractile responses were elicited by electrical stimulation of perivascular adrenergic nerves. We found that treatment with nifedipine prevented the elevation of blood pressure and decreased the relative heart weight values in SHR of both age groups. No changes in these parameters due to nifedipine were detected in Wistar rats. Adrenergic contractions in mesenteric arteries were decreased in nifedipine-treated SHR, particularly at 12th week; in contrast, arteries from 12-week-old Wistar rats treated with nifedipine became more sensitive to endo- and exogenous noradrenaline and responded with enhanced contractions. We conclude that nifedipine administration prevented the rise of blood pressure similarly in both stages of spontaneous hypertension development; however, it decreased the sympathoadrenergic vasoconstriction more effectively in 12-week-old SHR in which the initial blood pressure was already partially elevated.
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