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Vacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.
Was on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush.
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?"
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I can do nothing anytime, if I'm on vacation I'm doing all the shit.
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?",
">\n\nVacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.\nWas on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush."
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?",
">\n\nVacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.\nWas on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush.",
">\n\nI can do nothing anytime, if I'm on vacation I'm doing all the shit."
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I like a good mix. I don’t see any point
In spending money to travel to a different location and stay in my hotel room the whole time. I could do that at home. But I also do not want a Clark Griswald itinerary type vacation. My perfect scenario is eat lots of good food, walk on the beach, have drinks, be in and near water, take naps by the pool or beach, maybe go see or do a couple of things if we feel like it. No schedule is the main thing that relaxes me.
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?",
">\n\nVacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.\nWas on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush.",
">\n\nI can do nothing anytime, if I'm on vacation I'm doing all the shit.",
">\n\nIt's somewhat rare that I get to do nothing."
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When I go to Iceland I'm not just going to lounge around and sit inside and do nothing I'm gonna go out and explore and drive around and see shit.
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?",
">\n\nVacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.\nWas on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush.",
">\n\nI can do nothing anytime, if I'm on vacation I'm doing all the shit.",
">\n\nIt's somewhat rare that I get to do nothing.",
">\n\nI like a good mix. I don’t see any point\nIn spending money to travel to a different location and stay in my hotel room the whole time. I could do that at home. But I also do not want a Clark Griswald itinerary type vacation. My perfect scenario is eat lots of good food, walk on the beach, have drinks, be in and near water, take naps by the pool or beach, maybe go see or do a couple of things if we feel like it. No schedule is the main thing that relaxes me."
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I have enjoyed both types. A vacation can be a big break from the home routine - maybe at home you sit in a cubicle in front of a screen, so climbing a mountain will mentally and emotionally recharge you. Or, maybe home life is stress, traffic and grey skies. In which case you can enjoy a stay on a beach doing very little.
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?",
">\n\nVacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.\nWas on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush.",
">\n\nI can do nothing anytime, if I'm on vacation I'm doing all the shit.",
">\n\nIt's somewhat rare that I get to do nothing.",
">\n\nI like a good mix. I don’t see any point\nIn spending money to travel to a different location and stay in my hotel room the whole time. I could do that at home. But I also do not want a Clark Griswald itinerary type vacation. My perfect scenario is eat lots of good food, walk on the beach, have drinks, be in and near water, take naps by the pool or beach, maybe go see or do a couple of things if we feel like it. No schedule is the main thing that relaxes me.",
">\n\nWhen I go to Iceland I'm not just going to lounge around and sit inside and do nothing I'm gonna go out and explore and drive around and see shit."
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"When I hear “vacation” I guess I just assume traveling, so the image of someone flying somewhere just to sleep and play games in their hotel room made me lol",
">\n\nSome of my fondest memories of being on vacation is when my kid, spouse, and I spent a morning laying at the beach, an afternoon watching a movie in the hotel room, and an entire evening playing poker. \nLazy days in exotic locations are very satisfying.",
">\n\nYep. My gf and I have perfected the art of going away to a cozy cabin or hotel for the weekend and not doing ANYTHING except lay around, eat, watch movies, etc. It’s wonderful. Something about being in a different destination makes it all extraordinary",
">\n\nMy wife and I use the Cozy Cabin Trip to perfectly align our needs on vacations.\nWe rent a cabin next to a lake. She chills at the cabin and smokes bud and reads books and makes snacks while I run around and power fish from 4:30am to 6:30pm. Then we make dinner and watch a movie.\nTwo versions of the “perfect” vacation, intersecting seamlessly.",
">\n\nI will never understand why people enjoy fishing. Spending 14 hours in one place barely doing anything sounds like torture lol",
">\n\nBro I rip around in a boat getting hella tactical, working shoreline structure, weird contours, and evaluating water temps, lunar modes, and all kinds of other shit.\nYou would need to literally beat me with a bong to get me to sit still for 14 hours lol",
">\n\nI must say, that was the first time I’ve ever been even a little interested in fishing lol you sound like a fun time to fish with",
">\n\nIt’s a whole different game. Run-n-gun with 10 rods each on board loaded with a variety of different artificial baits, using electronics to survey the lake contours, finding patterns that fish are feeding on at different times of the day, and fishing HARD, cast after cast after cast. And through all of that, still having the attitude that sometimes, you don’t catch anything but god damn, it’s fuckin great to be out there with your boys talking shit lol.",
">\n\nI love many types of fishing, but everything you described sounds like the antithesis of everything I enjoy about them (and the water).\nIf I feel like juggling that much busy-ness, I’ll be in a kitchen.",
">\n\nI make it sound hectic but most of the planning happens while you’re hanging out drinking, and you go out with a plan and adapt as conditions change",
">\n\nI sort of agree. I hate being rushed. I hate being on limited time. Have you ever been to the Louvre. I swear I suffered sensory overload after like 30 minutes there. I'd need like a solid year to really enjoy the Louvre.",
">\n\nThe perfect vacation for me has a plan to do like one scheduled or big activity a day, then the rest for free time and spontaneity winging it IMO.",
">\n\nSame here. I like a loosely structured vacation. I prefer one or two planned activities per day and the rest of the time to do whatever, including lay in bed if I'm tired.",
">\n\nI’m similar: generally there’s one planned activity in the morning and one planned activity in the afternoon. Then the rest of the time is fairly unstructured. \nI like doing architecture tours, which are often timed or constrained by opening hours, so having some amount of planning for my vacations is key.",
">\n\nI sit on my ass all day at work. If I'm going on a vacation, it's gonna be a fucking active one.",
">\n\nYeah I bust my balls in the woods all day, working 50+ hours a week. I don't need more activity lol",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!",
">\n\nHe cuts down trees, he eats his lunch, he goes to the lavatory! On Wednesday he goes shopping, and has buttered scones for tea",
">\n\nHe's a lumberjack, and he's OK. He sleeps all night, and he works all day\nI cut down trees, I skip and jump, I like to press wild flowers, I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars",
">\n\nHE PUTS ON WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND HANGS AROUND IN BARS???",
">\n\nso wholesome, r/gatesopencomeonin",
">\n\nVacations are for fun. You can sleep at home for free. If I'm paying for something, it has to be a fun experience. Be it swimming in the sea, sightseeing, climbing mountains or snowboarding.",
">\n\nYeah I hate adventure stuff but I’m more along the lines of, if you’re going to a different country, make sure you explore the things you can’t get at home. Explore restaurants, beaches, national parks, etc",
">\n\nExactly. If you're going somewhere on a vacation, make it worth your while. Otherwise, you can just take some days off and take a rest in the comfort of your home. Idk what OP meant by \"vacation\", but if it's just days off work, I see their point.",
">\n\nI mean for me at least that is my idea of vacation. I absolutely hate traveling and I've never been happy doing the typical \"go to another country and do things\" vacation.",
">\n\nIn my country, we usually either go to the seaside in another town(in the same country) or to the mountains. We usually don't need to travel far but we use our free time the best we can. \"Go to another country\" type of turism is on occasions. I've been to Germany (Berlin) and it was great. Especially the food. I've also been to Southampton (England) to visit a friend for his birthday. I really like the pubs there.",
">\n\nIf you're in the or around the EU/UK area that definitely makes sense, you can visit just about anywhere since things are relatively close by and there's a high cultural density and diversity concentrated into a small geographic area (compared to the US).\nIf I wanted to travel but not travel too far it means going to Idaho and looking at some potatoes I guess.",
">\n\nYeah. The large distances and all that wasted space is one of my main beefs with the USA(it's infrastructure). I can't imagine having to drive hours every day just to get to somewhere(work, school, supermarket, etc). Idk if that's the case, but I suppose it's because you have too many houses over there, and everyone feels the need to own a house for some reason, while in the EU we mostly live in appartments and owning houses is more like a luxury thing for the rich or reserved for villages/rural areas. So we've got more things and people, concentrated in smaller areas. \nI guess it's also a difference in natural landscape. And how much of the land remains wild and forestry, compared to industrialised.",
">\n\nI'm not sure I understand your last sentence - are you trying to say that the EU or the USA is more industrialized?",
">\n\nThe USA. Europe has it's nature intact.",
">\n\nI wouldn't spend the $$$ on traveling somewhere if all I'm going to do is sleep and game. \nMay as well buy 5-10 games and stay in.",
">\n\nThey might be referencing to breaks or time off as vacations",
">\n\nYeah if I have time off from work, often the last thing I want to do is deal with the stress of travel and airports. In content to just not work for like a week and hang out and do projects/hobbies or just have friend over to hang in the yard and grill or whatever. Just not having a fixed schedule… not having to give a shit what time it is beyond whether it’s light or dark out. Go to bed and get up when I feel like it… go do what I want whenever with no regard for a time table",
">\n\nI interpret vacations as simply a designated time where you're free to use your own time to your own pleasure. To some that is visiting touristy destinations, others it's vegging by the pool or beach all day, and others it's staying at home and binge-watching TV.\nI've traveled with friends who love having an itinerary and it isn't for me. When traveling, I'll even do my best to avoid any reservations or appointments because who wants to be clock-watching?",
">\n\nI think OP is trying to say they prefer staycations?",
">\n\nOr just not leaving home.",
">\n\nThis is also what I prefer. I don't believe it's unpopular but I also don't get out much as you might assume",
">\n\nI do like active vacations, butttttt.....\nThere's nothing better than going to the beach, throwing your keys, shoes, and wallet into a drawer, and seeing how long you can avoid using them.",
">\n\nThe other day it was insanely hot so I went to the beach with a friend. First time in a while. It was kinda nice losing track of time and not checking my phone for hours.\nIt was insanely hot until late, so there was much incentive to stay in the water!",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations have been when I’ve gone camping, and just shut off my brain and chill for a few days, eat, and sleep. I’ll just take a week off in the off season and just go Monday to Thursday and shut my brain off and chill.",
">\n\nThis is why cruises are ideal for me.\nBeing on the go go go is stressful for me, but if I’m on a floating party boat, it’s quite ideal .",
">\n\nAnd to me a cruise sound like torture. Nothing to do and stuck in a hotel you can’t leave. Like maybe if it stopped in a bunch of places or whatever. \nI’ve always wanted to do one of those Viking river cruises where you get to go to a bunch of places and the cruise just takes you to the next city while you sleep",
">\n\nThe cruise ship has a basketball court, dance clubs, bars, sports bars, a theatre , a casino, pools, hot tubs, spa, gym, food court and more all on deck… it’s not just a hotel.\nAlso that’s what cruises do, the one I went on went to two separate islands each day.",
">\n\nJust doesn’t seem like you are really visiting cool places or get a chance to do what ya want. Just going from tourist dock to tourist dock with bad food and the worst of Vegas between stops",
">\n\nYou definitely want to pay extra for excursions which get you away from the dock and to the stuff worth seeing. We had one stop where we didn’t book an excursion and within 30 minutes of getting off the boat we were seriously regretting it because the area was so kitschy. We found a rental car company and got a great deal on a car because it was already 11 and they weren’t likely to get more customers that day. Drove 30 minutes to a gorgeous beach and had a great day.\nIt’s still an abbreviated experience since you only spend a day in each place, but you get to see a lot of different places over the course of 7-14 days without spending all your time in a car, train, or airports. I was highly skeptical going into my first cruise but I enjoyed it a lot. I wouldn’t ever be one of those people who only travel via cruise, but I’d definitely cruise again",
">\n\nThere’s vacations, and there’s trips. To me a vacation is to a warm beach location where most of my time is spent lounging around by the water, reading books, snoozing, eating, maybe one or two excursions to see some local attraction. \nTrips are for seeing and doing the best of what the area has to offer. They’re busy and exhausting and you do tons of walking and sight seeing. Also amazing, but I always come back feeling like I need a day or two off before I go back to real life. \nBoth trips and vacations are amazing, I want them at different times for different reasons.",
">\n\nBINGO. After years of “needing a vacation” thee we day I get back from vacation, my SO and I started a new practice. Instead of cramming the itinerary full of crap for the whole trip, we pick a couple “musts”, and a handful of “if we feel like it” things, and decide each day what we’re up for. Also, we try to separate “resting” vacations (beach, F&F, etc) from “adventure” vacations (touring, hiking, skiing, etc) and do one of each every year.\nThe amount of actual satisfaction we get from our vacations has vastly improved.",
">\n\nI literally make that list. It has two parts, the “definitely” and the “maybe”. The “definitely” is an extremely short list. The “maybe” is filler that we’d enjoy and can select one at any time, but wouldn’t be disappointed if we just said fuck it because we’d rather lay around until dinner one day.\nDo the same vacations, too. We have two adventure(ish) trips and one relax/indulge trip.",
">\n\nSo, I don't disagree, totally, but that's a single person's or possibly a couple's vacation. Unfortunately, if you have numerous people along, scheduling reduces the chaos. \nI like to hang out in bed all day, preferably with a view of something awesome like a beach or mountain. But I can't do that with other people along for more than like a day.",
">\n\nI hate going on group vacations. Because then those people want to do their thing, but they want me to do it with them\n If I'm on vacation, I want to do my thing! Which is usually nothing.",
">\n\nI’m with you. Especially because my families ideal holiday is totally different to mine. They love sun, beach, swimming pool etc. If I had to plan a holiday I would be going somewhere with a lot of history, art, unique food and going to a bar in the evening to chat with some local people. I just like to chill and take my time to really explore places. No point in a rushing around with a schedule. While there’s nothing wrong with just laying by a pool or beach all day I can’t help but find it to be such a waste of time\nEverytime I bring this up as a suggestion for maybe a change of pace for once I just get laughed at and called boring.",
">\n\nThe people from my country think vacation means hauling your ass to somewhere far away that usually takes hours, do activities that aren't relaxing or tires you out just so you can take pictures for Facebook (yes, Facebook).\nBonus points if it's a company mandated vacation that takes up your weekend.",
">\n\nBoring",
">\n\nOP is clearly American. \nThis is definitely not unpopular in Europe where our holidays consist of doing absolutely nothing whilst laying on a beach.",
">\n\nThis a new one. Americans usually get insulted for not being cultured or well traveled enough",
">\n\nMy wife and I stopped making big plans about 10 years ago.\nWe still like to travel, but while we're there, we completely wing it.\nThat said, what you're thinking of, is a staycation, or a mental health holiday. Take a couple days off, sleep in, eat junk, play video games all day. Nothing wrong with that either, but I'm certainly not driving 12 hours to Myrtle Beach to sleep all day and play video games.",
">\n\nEh depends on how you're defining vacation. If you just mean taking time off from work or you're in school and it's time for break then sure I'd agree\nIf you mean that you just traveled somewhere then hard disagree, im not gonna travel to, say, Europe from the US just to chill in my hotel all day and play video games because I could just do that from home. Maybe at nighttime when I've already gone out and done things for that day. If I'm traveling then I want to do/see things I both can't do from home and/or can only do in that area",
">\n\nInteresting, I always found vacations where I'm just sitting around boring and unadventurous.",
">\n\nNo, I want to get up and move around. If I’m near historical sites or museums, I want to see them",
">\n\nYou can just do that and not go anywhere... No one is stopping you.",
">\n\nYes all true... but on an island. Not at home lol.\nA nice resort where there are almost no kids. Or .. if there are kids, they're always well behaved, because you're staying at a nice property.\nLay on the beach, be waited on, on the beach, hand and foot by waitstaff.. swim, read. Go back to the room, have sex, shower and dress for dinner, repeat 7 to 14 times.\nThat's a real vacation.",
">\n\nThis is where it's at!",
">\n\nOnce we did it on a Thanksgiving weekend. Jamaica. Superb. No family nonsense. Just got on a plane on Wednesday, came back on Sunday. Perfect Thanksgiving weekend.",
">\n\n100% agree. I fucking despise “itinerary” vacations. I LOATHE them. I have to follow an itinerary all week long in my daily life. I want to be a lazy piece of shit on a vacation. No expectations. No demands. And if I feel like partaking in an event/attraction then so be it. But don’t want to be told “we all need to go do this thing now”. No mf. I’m in the middle of an amazing nap.",
">\n\nYES",
">\n\nI guess the distinction here is between Vacation and Travel. I don't want to travel and do nothing. But vacation can be staying home and playing video games all week for me.",
">\n\nYeah I could travel on vacations but honestly that's really expensive and kind of a hassle. I'm busy enough managing a wood chipping crew, I don't want to manage a vacation too.",
">\n\nThis is why we start differentiating between a vacation and a trip, bcs your absolutely right",
">\n\nI came here to comment something similar. I call it a \"trip\" if I'm going somewhere to do interesting/fun stuff, but a \"vacation\" if I'm either staying home or going to the beach to relax.",
">\n\nIf i am on a vacation where I can do a lot of things I can’t otherwise do at home, I’m going to do those things. I may space it out to where I one thing a day so that I can sleep a little and enjoy a little spontaneity.",
">\n\nMy favourite days are the ones when I do lots of things.",
">\n\nI agree! I live in Canada so when i leave for the winter i just enjoy the hot weather and hate when people pressure me to do stuff. Like stfu i'm happy just relaxing and looking at birds and shit",
">\n\nHard disagree! But I’m a big believer there are so many different types of travelers so more power to you",
">\n\nThis is the most I’ve agreed with something on the internet in my entire life",
">\n\nI very much agree with this. \nI hate traveling vacations. It ends up just being busy, stressful, and tiring. You’re stuck with people constantly, no privacy. Everything is a group or on a schedule. Then I need to recover from the “vacation”. \nIf I travel somewhere, it’s gotta be by myself and/or with my partner. I like doing things on my own time without the stress of following other people’s itineraries. I’m low energy too, so one day of activities wipes me out. \nOtherwise, staying home and enjoying my own free time is absolute paradise.\nI realized how much I hated traveling when I left the country with a friend and their family for a month. What I was hoping would just be a nice trip to just enjoy the sights and visiting ended up being constantly doing planned activities from morning to night with no time to just wander and be “there”.",
">\n\nA vacation is whatever it is that your brain gets a change of pace, a breath of air, and changes from its day to day modes of thought and behavior.",
">\n\nMy friend, you have depression -someone that also has depression",
">\n\nI think OP is talking referring to breaks or time off as vacation",
">\n\nJust talked to my bf about this yesterday on the topic of all inclusives. I don't really want to lay around a resort for a week, I want to go on an adventure! Learn some stuff, try new things, expand my world view. I have a beach 5 minutes away (granted lake Michigan is cold), I can lay around and drink in the summer there and not spend thousands of dollars. I think realistically i could do an all inclusive for a long weekend before I got bored. When i solo traveled i was up before the sun to swim in the ocean, go visit caves and rainforests, and spent my days driving through a mountain range and along the ocean, and my nights exploring the city i was in (except my 2 remote nights).",
">\n\nDisagree, I always found the point of vacations (traveling) is to explore, not to relax. You can ask for days off and do that at home otherwise what’s the point of spending that money? \nEven if I’m tired, I suck it up, I wake up at 5am in a hotel room with all my things scattered, I walk for 20 miles without an easy resting point, I inevitably go to a convenient store because I forgot something important at home, and I try foods that sometimes aren’t my comfort foods because I know I only have a limited time in a foreign location and I want to see the best that the world has to offer.\nYeah it’s exhausting but I’ve lived to see some really amazing things at 28 and I’m sure others feel the same way. I don’t want to die wondering what Japan or Australia is like.",
">\n\nI like experiencing new things plenty, but getting up at 5am every morning on a vacation would just be miserable. I need plenty of relaxation time to go with my exploring for me to actually call it a vacation and enjoy it. Vacations are supposed to be a break from hard work imo and it's not really a vacation if you don't relax for any of it.",
">\n\nThe 5am bit is really to see places before people swarm there. It’s much harder to enjoy a view and find parking, avoid spending hours in traffic etc. if you try to show up the same time as everyone else. \nUsually this means being back in bed before 9PM while traveling. My wife and I have our toddler so there’s not much for us once it gets dark.",
">\n\nMy wife and I like a mix. We love the active ones where you’re exploring a new city or landscape, but also fully enjoy a lazy couple weeks at an all-inclusive resort where we just lay on the beach and relax all day (though we usually throw in a an excursion or two).",
">\n\nI went to Hawaii on my honeymoon during covid. Everything government ran was closed. We spend a week where we’d just drive and see something and stop to check it out. No plans, just if we saw it we’d go. It was the most relaxed I’ve been in my entire life.\nNothing beat just waking up on the first day and knowing I wasn’t at work and no one could contact me.",
">\n\nI agree. Over-planning a vacation makes it stressful and not a vacation. Then you get home and need a vacation from your vacation, and you go back to work worse off than you were before the vacation.",
">\n\nI agree with you to an extent. Sometimes it’s nice to get away but not be in a rush to do things. Like relaxing by the pool or on a beach, reading a book in a cozy cabin, etc. When I was growing up my mom would plan vacations where every minute of the day was planned. We would have to see everything wherever we were at. All the tourist trap stuff. I’d get back more tired than I was to begin with.",
">\n\nReading some of the comments, I think OP means they enjoy just chilling out when they take a day off work rather than doing \"stuff\". I can definitely agree in that regard that a few chill days here and there to do nothing of substance is rather nice.\nHowever, in the traditional sense of the word where you actually go to a different destination for at least a few days, usually a week or two, then I would have to disagree somewhat. Even if I go to an all inclusive resort, it's nice to have a few excursions thrown in amongst the beach/pool days.",
">\n\nIt’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a different type of vacation. Some people, enjoy your type of vacations while others enjoy the activity based vacations. It’s a matter of perspective and what you consider to be fun and relaxing at that time.",
">\n\nHaha. This is it right here. I don't necessarily agree but I find myself sleeping better in a hotel then my own room. I think the idea of not being surrounded by your 4 common walls just makes it more relaxing.",
">\n\nOP: \"i have a tiring blue collar job and want to relax for fun\"\neveryone else: \"i have a job where i sit on my ass and want to get tired for fun\"",
">\n\nThere's plenty of places I can go relax in a nice relaxing setting without traveling a far distance on a plane. If I am going a great distance to travel somewhere I am definitely taking that opportunity to see and do things that I might never have the opportunity to do or see again.\nIf I am somewhere tropical with a beach....I am definitely taking some time to relax, but that's certainly not going to be all I do.",
">\n\nSure, if it’s a stay-cation, but if I’m traveling to a foreign country I’m certainly going to explore the culture and nature.",
">\n\nYou don’t necessarily have to do “adventure” shit. I don’t. I’m in the military and just want to be lazy on my time off. However, when we went overseas the least I did was socialize, go to concerts, enjoy food, etc. I genuinely enjoyed the culture of Europe. Although I never had to pay for travel so I can understand the homebodies. Paying for hotel, flight. I always wondered how much money it’d cost me to have these experiences lol",
">\n\nI was 15 the last time I went on summer vacation with my siblings and Parents. Turns out the vacation was when they were gone.",
">\n\nit depends for me, if doing work like chores and admin work like taxes, DIY etc then yea i hate it but i love going camping and cinema etc",
">\n\nI can do most of that at home. Sure, I schedule a rest/free day, but I want to experience things I can't at home.",
">\n\nI'm a student. During my vacations (if I don't have to study) I'm a volunteer camp counselor. I go on camps with kids with disabilities, organize activities, take care of them (which sometimes means manually feeding and washing them), ... I love what I do, I couldn't imagine just lying on a beach all day! I always need to keep going",
">\n\nThen just take holiday at home? Why vacation somewhere to just sit around?",
">\n\nMy husband cannot just be still when we go on vacation, it drives me nuts. \nWe were on our honeymoon and we were sitting on the beach. It was wonderful, we never get to see the beach so I was soaking it in, just laying on the sand having a great time. \nMy husband kept asking over and over \"what are we doing? What do you want to do?\" \nI finally had to tell him \"I'm already doing what I want to do, if you want to \"do\" something then figure it out!\"",
">\n\nI’m exactly the opposite. If I want to sit around and do nothing, I can get plenty of that done at home. When I’m in a new place, I’m going to go out and explore it — and do things I can’t ordinarily.",
">\n\nI fucking hate going on vacation unless it’s something I thought of. Significant others forcing me to go on vacation with them have always resulted in a shit ass trip. If I have an extended period of time off I just want to relax and do nothing.",
">\n\nFuck that, I'm bringing my mountain bike or skis or hiking gear.\nMy unpopular opinion is Disney Land and other tourist parks sound horrible and I would much rather be in a random spot in the woods",
">\n\nI am fine with some activities, what annoys me is a full sked, and being required to be on the dot. \nI want more free time to just lay about and do nothing in a nice place, with great views and weather. \nAnd the less crowd the better.",
">\n\nI recently took a trip to Scotland (live in the US). I was exhausting myself trying to think of a set schedule of activities. So instead I said \"OK, we'll be in this area at this time, here's a list of things I'd like to do in order of priority. If i don't do everything, that's OK.\" And honestly? Best vacation ever. And I'm also the type of person who would just prefer a \"stay-cation\" or an extended weekend to just stay in bed.",
">\n\nI think the trick is just not to try to do everything. Pick like one thing or less a day. Sleep in, relax, do the thing at your own pace and enjoy it, then relax some more.\nSo instead of getting to see everything you wanted in that place and not enjoying any of it, maybe you only saw a few things, but I bet you enjoyed what you saw a lot more AND enjoyed the rest of the trip too.\nVacations where you're running an itinerary in 15 minute increments are stressful and pointless.",
">\n\nthis is exactly how i feel too! my ideal vacation is just chilling. i hate waking up early and doing things cause it takes away from the time i could be relaxing. it’s definitely a personality thing, my whole family loves doing a bunch of shit on vacations except one of my siblings and i. so instead of actually enjoying a vacation, we’re forced to do things with them that just ruin the whole experience for us. \nmy extrovert friends think i’m depressed lmao and yes i am, but i’ve always been like that. it really takes a toll on my mental health if i have to sacrifice my me time to go out and do stuff. being active is not my idea of fun. the only thing i might choose over staying home is going to a museum. love those.",
">\n\nBut like where is the vacation?? Because I understand this if it’s like a few hrs from home but if I’m going to Bali then yeah I’m doing stuff.",
">\n\nDepends on the type of vacation. \nIf traveling somewhere (ex. Italy), you aren't going there to stay in the hotel, sleeping and playing games. You'll go out in the city and satisfy your curiosity, eat some bomb ass food, and go home satisfied.\nIf you're going on \"vacation\" and staying home, then yeah. Sleep till you wake up unaware of what year it is and be a slob.\nBut you can't tell me that you travel around, telling people all the places you've been when all you actually did was sleep.",
">\n\nMy wife and make make stipulations on the difference between “vacations” and “trips”. Vacations are drinking on the beach, pool parties, lounging about between fancy meals, etc. Trips are when we go somewhere to embrace culture, sight see, expand world view, etc. Trips also involved drinking and fancy meals, but a lot more walking and structure.",
">\n\nPersonally I prefer to do things without a plan",
">\n\nMade the mistake of taking a long vacation with friends. Friends who apparently must be doing something every freaking second. The most non-relaxing, non-fun vacation experience ever. My BF and I would bow out to lay around on the beach and didn’t hear the end of how we were missing out being lazy. Screw that. I was annoyed the whole time. Never traveling with others again cause that was a huge waste of money just to be annoyed.",
">\n\nVacations versus Travel. I get but I’m more of a traveller than a vacation person. I’ve done the type of vacation you speak of and it’s nice especially if you’re in a tropical locale where cultural pursuits are few and far between but after 4 days of chill, I tend to get bored and wonder what the hell is there to do here?",
">\n\nOh I agree. I am sick of doing stuff all the time. My holidays are for being lazy.",
">\n\nBest vacation involves relaxing by the pool/beach, eating and having sex. Any kind of work or planning makes it not a vacation",
">\n\nI feel like American work culture is so exhausting and exploitative that the only vacation we can enjoy is one where we do nothing. I wish I had the energy to travel the world and have new experiences but my anxiety is terrible from customer service and getting more than a few days off is often time not possible.",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. I take time off work to sleep in and sit on my ass haha.",
">\n\nNot an unpopular opinion in my house at all! My wife and now my 20 year old daughter (whom still lives with us) live by this philosophy, weekends too baby!!",
">\n\nYou could do that at home. Don't waste money doing that in a hotel.",
">\n\nI can do all that at home. I don't understand spending all the money to go somewhere to stay in the room and sleep. I'd just book a hotel down the street (done that, not having chores/even the option to cook is cool). If I'm going somewhere, I'm gonna go... explore the place. To each their own though!",
">\n\nImagine visiting an exotic European country for the first time and just lying in the bed in hotel room and not exploring",
">\n\nDownvoting because this could be popular",
">\n\nI dont pay to sleep. I could do that shit at home",
">\n\nCounter opinion: Doing nothing isn't a vacation. It is just doing nothing.",
">\n\nYou’re looking for a staycation my friend, not a vacation.",
">\n\nWhat's your weekend consist of then?",
">\n\nI'm exactly alike. And I had the best luck in finding a GF that is like this as well, with sporadic episodes of \"let's go see something interesting\", which I'm a fan of (musea, sightseeing, exploring wilderness, trying local food). For the rest, for me vacation is relaxing and resting, which I can't do when not on vacation. I'll reach extents such as picking BnBs that are whole, comfy houses just in case we spend a couple of the vacations days just there chilling.",
">\n\nGaming inside on vacation? Yikes….",
">\n\nGaming while on vacation, sheesh lol. Addicted much?",
">\n\nThat’s harsh, people can have whatever hobbies they want. Between work and kids, I don’t have time to play video games anymore. About once a month or so I take a PTO day, send the kid to daycare, and enjoy a few hours of solo video game time.\nEdit- ah I see from your post history that you enjoy video games. Good troll, ya got me!",
">\n\nYeah you do that at home. If you go on vacation, and feel the need to game, then you're addicted.\nTaking a sick day isn't what I was referring to as a vacation.\nAnd sending your kids to daycare and missing work JUST to play video games is also a sign of addiction lol. You're literally admitting to missing work and time with your kids, how is that not signs of addiction?\nDaycare is also easily $100+ a day. So you miss work and spend hundreds of dollars just to play some games, and you don't see a problem with any of that? Lol",
">\n\nYikes my man. What kind of vendetta you got against games? It’s no skin off your bone what other people do in their free time! My wife and I also take PTO days to do dates like hiking, or movies, board games together, video games together, or just lunch since all these things are much harder to do with a kid. Insane that you think that makes me love my kid less, I’d guess you aren’t a parent. And ya damn right I use my PTO days to take off work to do other things— that’s what they’re there for!\nAnd my wife and I clear about $250k/yr, so yeah we afford daycare just fine.",
">\n\nI agree and I have no idea how people plan entire week-long vacations where they're just out doing shit every single day. That's exactly what I'm trying to get a vacation from!\nMy wife and I mostly plan our vacations around the restaurants we want to eat at, with maybe some light sightseeing, shopping, or wandering here and there, but even that can be exhausting sometimes. Next vacation I take, we're not going anywhere; I just want to sleep in my own bed until noon, every day.",
">\n\nI think this kind of lifestyle is sad, and ultimately leads to someone who isn't happy with themselves.",
">\n\nr/StopGaming",
">\n\nI have time to game like 2 or 3 hours a week. You really think that's a problem?",
">\n\nSome of us live to exist, I guess you don't",
">\n\nI'm not sure what you mean.",
">\n\nSo why go anywhere if you do the exact same thing you do on your day off at home?",
">\n\nsometimes we just need to change the surroundings",
">\n\n\nand maybe some gaming\n\nWhat a sad fucking life.",
">\n\nGames are fun though, lol.",
">\n\nThey're fun from time to time. I think if all a person wants to do on a vacation is play video games then they seriously need to reevaluate their priorities in life. \nIt's like a little kid wanting to eat candy for every meal.",
">\n\nIdk, sounds dope to me. \nVacations for me growing up (few as they were) were nothing but stress; from packing and traveling, to rushing and trying to force in as much \"fun\" to get the most out of the time and money spent, then packing and travelling home. I don't really see the appeal in vacations outside of staying with family.\nI'd much rather stay at home and game while staying up till whenever and then sleeping till whenever. Much more relaxing use of my time.",
">\n\nI hate wasting paid time off on travel. I am forced to work this job because I want a roof over my head. Staycation is the only 'cation",
">\n\nThat is an unpopular opinion. That said, do what you want to do, or what your SO wants to do (and if they are different figure out how to compromise). In my family growing up we had two types of vacations--beach vacations where we stayed in one spot and enjoyed the beach--swimming, bodysurfing, kayaking--and loafing time--and working vacations which is a road trip vacation usually with the main destination being a major national park like Yellowstone, Yosemite or the Grand Canyon. Both types of vacation are fun, IMHO.",
">\n\nVacation vs. staycation.",
">\n\nI can have naps and video games every day. If I'm paying thousands of dollars on a vacation I'm doing some things.",
">\n\nI’m not paying that amount of money to sit on my arse all day.",
">\n\nAverage redditor",
">\n\nA vacation is a break from your day to day life to do what you enjoy. What you enjoy is different from what others enjoy. It's not that hard to figure out lol",
">\n\nI know very few people agree, that's why I posted this",
">\n\nI guess the way I see it and what I kinda meant by my comment was I don't see you as being right or wrong cuz it's purely a matter of personal interests. Idk I guess maybe that's the point of this sub though 😂",
">\n\nThen save your money and do all that at home, at this point your just inconveniencing yourself for no reason",
">\n\nThat's what I do",
">\n\nThat’s called the weekend.",
">\n\nGaming lol you may as well stay at home",
">\n\nI do!",
">\n\nThat’s called depression, sweetie. Not a vacation.",
">\n\nI'm pretty satisfied with my life. Got a fun job, a beautiful wife, and salvation in my Lord Jesus Christ. I really can't ask for more. I like to sit at home when I do have vacations because I work a lot of hours, usually 50-60 a week.",
">\n\nCapitalism has you by the balls so hard you think not working is considered vacation.",
">\n\nGet this: some people LIKE to work.",
">\n\nI work more hours than you, buddy.",
">\n\nAnd it sounds like you don't enjoy any of those hours.",
">\n\nSo you’re reasoning is essentially that you’re lazy.",
">\n\nOh dude... no just no man, who hurt you? Some of my best vacations involved doing things together, i don't exactly like camping but i've done it and had a great time with friends. Traveling somewhere, spending all that money then just chill'n? can do that at home.",
">\n\nYou sound interesting",
">\n\nAh, so, you just live your normal life, but somewhere else!",
">\n\nI think uts up to personal preferance. I have done both and find them equally amusing based on my feelings at the time.",
">\n\nI like to use vacations to get out of my comfort zone. Getting out of it is the most rewarding things at the end of the day",
">\n\nI feel this. Taking the family down to Orlando area to see some relatives. Of course we are planning our days with all sorts of bullshit, when all I really want to do is sit in the hot tub and drink a beer.\nIt's why I always schedule extra time off from work for my vacations. I need to unwind from the unwind.",
">\n\nI've learned as I got older to not try to schedule so much stuff out on a vacation - you just end up even more tired trying to make it to all the different locations. It's better to have some time to sit down and take in the scenery, or to aimlessly explore and just discover things naturally, than to plan everything out hour by hour. It's so much more satisfying that way.",
">\n\nWhen I go on vacation, I'm usually heading out west and doing a bunch of hiking in national parks. It's what resets my mind and body. About to do a week in the great smoky mountains over the mardi gras break.",
">\n\nI think you probably just prefer no strict itineraries? Loose plans rather than a tight vacation schedule? I can understand that",
">\n\nYeah, I’m definitely the opposite! Anytime one of my friends or co workers tells me they’re taking vacation time I’m always immediately like ”where are you going?” not realizing for some people they enjoy utilizing their PTO just to unwind/recoup at home. For me when I use vacation time I just need a total vacation from my current life, not just my job. Eating, sleeping, gaming - I still do all of those even with my current work schedule. I guess because that is my life aside from working there is enough work / “life” balance that when it’s time to utilize that vacation time - I’m going somewhere and doing something. Fun though! (In theory, because it doesn’t always work out that way 😅).",
">\n\nThis reminds me of that scene in Frances Ha when she flies to Paris for 2 days and spends the whole time sleeping and reading in bed. Personally if I’m going to a new place, I want to see it. I try to have a few things I absolutely want to do and fill the rest of the time spontaneously. Very rarely does that mean staying in, but I get why people do for sure. A staycation for me is just that; I stay home for those.",
">\n\nRenting a nice villa and just chilling for 2 weeks is also a good vacation.",
">\n\nIn my job I have 5 consecutive days off that I use for lounging and idleness, so don’t need to abuse my vacation for that",
">\n\nYou're mixing up vacation(all included resort - ewww.) and travelling(diy everything)",
">\n\nNo thanks to both of those",
">\n\nEnjoy your youth! But travel while you can my friend",
">\n\nThen that’s not a vacation, that’s just staying home",
">\n\nOur recent vacations have been a large trip with friends and/or family to a rental house near some stuff to do. Usually, a 7 day trip. \nThe first day is arrivals. \nThe second day is getting settled in and hanging out, communal dinner that's easy but delicious.\nDay 3 is doing something touristy.\nDay 4 is a house party all day.\nDay 5 is another touristy thing.\nDay 6 is pack things mostly up and relax.\nDay 7 is go home.",
">\n\nEating and sleeping sounds great for a staycation, but if I’m somewhere other than my usual environment, especially somewhere I’ve never been, I’ve got to get out there to check it out",
">\n\nVacations are there to do whatever you damn well please.\nYou wanna lounge around all day and snack, go right ahead.\nYou wanna travel the country for a week, hiking and sightseeing, then do that.\nIt’s each to their own",
">\n\nReally depends upon what you mean by \"vacation\" a lot of people here seem to attract \"vacation\" and I agree with them that traveling somewhere to do nothing makes no sense.\nBut personally \"vacation\" just means \"obligation free time\" a time period in which I have no obligations to uphold so I kind of agree with you to.",
">\n\nDifferent preferences for different people at different times",
">\n\nI can do 3-4 days of nothing on vacation but then I get really bored",
">\n\nThrow in a beach, and I'm right there with you.",
">\n\nYes this is definitely unpopular",
">\n\nI took my friend Dave on a hike in the Adirondacks. He bitched on our first accent that this wasn't a vacation. After his first summit, looking down on what he accomplished, he got it. I did the same thing with my wife on our 1 year anniversary. Same result. But, different strokes.",
">\n\nMy favorite vacations are ones I can drive to in a couple hours. We are lucky because we can drive down the shore or up to the mountains in a reasonable time. That way I don't have to worry about what I'm taking on a plane and I have a car when I get there. But hanging out on the beach for a couple days is very relaxing.",
">\n\nI think it depends, if I’m going somewhere with my kids we need to have a plan",
">\n\nLOL right? Imagine “winging it” with kids in tow. That’s a disaster waiting to happen",
">\n\nBuddy, from your comments, I think you just have a bad work-life balance, and use your vacation to decompress and catch up on sleep debt.",
">\n\nI'm quite satisfied with it. I thank God for every day. And my weekends are for catching up on sleep debt lol",
">\n\nthis is so real man. i hate going on vacations where we have a whole itinerary planned out and i’m forced to wake up early and run around all day.",
">\n\nI have two types, trips and vacations. Trips include lots of walking, site seeing, activities, these are not relaxing but full of experiences. Vacations are for relaxing, sleeping in, lounging maybe some entertainment. They are both great in their own ways.",
">\n\nI think there's a difference between taking a vacation to travel and travelling to vacation",
">\n\nVacations are no longer enjoyable now with the absolute shit show that flying has become. Also when you get to places a lot of times half the shit is closed. A 5 night vacation is a 3 night vacation with 2 very stressful travel days. I remember when shit was on time and always open.",
">\n\nI can see both sides. My grandma, aunt, and kind of my mom are of the mindset that you should get the most full experience whenever going somewhere you don't live/go to often to make the most of it. Since they're the ones planning a lot of things, I also am brought along for the ride.\n\nSome of the things they've made me go to that I wouldn't have otherwise done were very fun and I thoroughly enjoyed them and don't regret it at all. A lot of it I would've rather stayed at the hotel or wherever and played on my phone or took a nap but I still go along with them often on the off-chance it's one of the \"enjoy\" things. Some things I know for a fact I won't like and occasionally fight against, but for some I could go either way, just leaning towards \"don't like\"",
">\n\nIf I’m visiting some place like Italy or Asia…I want to do things. If I want a beach vacation to just veg out that’s fine but so much culture, history, beautiful sites to see in different countries…can’t just be doing nothing all the time. Even if ya just want a day to do nothing that’s completely fine but I’m not going to be in a place that may have thousands of years worth of history and do nothing.",
">\n\nIf its a really cool resort then yea i want to take a day to just hang out by the pool and explore. I dont mind having an activity or 2 planned though. Balance is key",
">\n\nYou described a stay-cation. If you go to Disney, plan 2 extra days agyer returning home to sleep because why pay all the $ to lay around and not see things do rides etc. A beach vacation is different, usually just laying in the sun & going out to eat. An overseas vacation depends on where you go and why. I'm not going to Italy or somewhere I've never been just to sit around all day. It sounds like you need more rest and then go on a proper trip.",
">\n\nNot really interested in doing that other stuff, sounds like a lot of work and sounds expensive.",
">\n\nDisney is definitely exhausting. Fun but exhausting. Ya need either 2 days to recover or 10 days there, to just have time to lounge by the pool. Trips and vacations are totally different things. I do love a good stay cation & really love weekends where I don't have parties weddings or random obligations because it means I can loaf around the house. Even beach vacations I like to go to waterpark, rides and shopping. Most people know what they are getting into when they plan a trip or vacation.",
">\n\nI already eat, sleep and play video games every day. If I'm going somewhere on vacation I'm going to want to do the activities otherwise exclusive to the trip. \nIve also never been able to afford a vacation so I could be wrong, but traveling to somewhere in the world just to do what I already do at home sounds like a waste of money.",
">\n\nThat can be okay sometimes, but it goes by really fast and you don't get any memories from it. So many of the best memories I have with my kids are from places we went on vacation, things we did. I have weekends and other random days to be at home and chill... vacations should be something more if you can make it happen (I know it isn't affordable to many, and am blessed to be able to do things)",
">\n\nThe best vacation is where you play video games?",
">\n\nHeck yeah! And have a lot of sex with my wife.",
">\n\n/r/ihavesex\nI mean it's definitely an unpopular opinion. But that sounds incredibly boring.",
">\n\nStaycations are nice. I also do like travel vacations. They both are awesome for different reasons imo.",
">\n\nI think it depends on the mood. Sometimes I wanna travel and see things sometimes I just wanna chill and sometimes both.\nFor me it’s just important that nothings rushed or forced",
">\n\nYou’re just a boring person. There isn’t much more to it.\nIt’s not bad either.",
">\n\nTake my upvote, I couldn't disagree more. I can do nothing whenever after work and most weekends.\nIf I'm going on vacation, I dont want to just sit there and do nothing and be bored. I want to do something I can remember and enjoy with my time off.\nI couldn't think of a worse vacation than going somewhere to sit by a pool or go to the beach and just lie down in the sun and do nothing.\nGive me snowboarding or hiking or a city break where I can go out and explore.",
">\n\nWho said vacations or taking PTO means you have to take a trip anywhere….",
">\n\nI personally love a mix on vacation. For us the point of traveling somewhere new, is to see or do something we can’t at home whether it be visiting a coal mine, shark diving, visiting Zion, or just a booze cruise. But my fiancée is amazing at always planning a few days off nothing to relax also.",
">\n\nI actually agree with this completely. I hate planning stuff. I just want to relax with the scenery that I have.",
">\n\nOne of the best vacations we had was we just went to Thailand with the family, rented a large air bnb with a private pool and hung out for a week. Absolutely no agenda, just chilling out.",
">\n\nI would say this is definitely unpopular!\nI'm more of a homebody myself, but personally wouldn't see the point in traveling if I was going to stay in a hotel room and sleep and game the majority of the time. I guess trying local restaurants would be fun. To me, the point of traveling would be to see and try new things, but to each their own!\nIf you're referring to a \"staycation\", that is a different story and it's completely reasonable to spend the time relaxing indoors if that is your thing.",
">\n\nGaming is lame.",
">\n\nSeems stupid to spend a bunch of money to go somewhere and do nothing when you save the ones and do nothing at home",
">\n\nVacations are for fun and experiences. Staycations are for doing nothing and relaxing! \nI prefer the latter personally like you do. But I am overdue for some travel.",
">\n\nif you travel with a keener who plans every hour its that persons vacation not yours.",
">\n\n\nwhere I do absolutely nothing for a few days besides eat food, sleep a lot, and maybe some gaming. \n\nThat's a normal night or weekend at home. I don't need a vacation to do that. I only get 3 weeks of PTO a year so I'm going to use it wisely and go places and do things I can't do every other day of the year after work.",
">\n\nWhy spend tons of money to go somewhere to do the same exact things that you can do at home??",
">\n\nI'm the opposite, I wanna do stuff when I'm off, I have every working evening or weekends to relax\nAt home I just get bored out of my mind, and if i waste a week doing nothing, I look back at that week and it feels like it just flew by with nothing going on. Whereas if I go away or do something interesting, it might go quicker in the moment but I look back and think oh yeah I did this and this and it feels like an actual chapter in my life story\nI actually prefer going away on my own as theirs no pressure to 'get everything done', I just wander round and see what I can, take it in and enjoy being in a new experience\nEach to their own though",
">\n\nThis is why beach getaways are the best. If you want to go do some activity, great, but if not you can just chill out by the ocean.",
">\n\nI dislike very much a vacation full of activities. Recharging batteries is the priority.",
">\n\nThat’s 100% not true. My favourite vacations are ski trips!",
">\n\nI work on planes, so when I take a vacation I don't want to fly anywhere because that seems like going to work. I will drive some where for vacation.",
">\n\n*aren't enjoyable to you",
">\n\nAfter I load the car up, get my kids into their car seats and close the door behind my wife, the walk I make around the car is my vacation.",
">\n\nVacations are what you want to make of it. It's your time to recharge yourself the way that best suits you. If it's staying at home on your ass doing nothing, that is a perfectly valid vacation. If it's going out and exploring the culture of a foreign country, that's a valid vacation. Hell spending time lounging on a beach too. \nThe key point here is that you do what recharges you. It sounds like OP has never taken a vacation for their own sake or thinks that vacations need to conform to a certain description.",
">\n\nMy husband just got home from our honeymoon in Hawaii. We were there for 10 days. 7 out of the 10 days we were up by 4 am either doing a sunrise hike or flying to another island to spend the day there and adventure. Everyone told us we were crazy but there was no way in hell we were flying 6k miles to sleep in and mosey around. When we say we want to see the world - we mean it. Not just sit on a beach and drink away our time.",
">\n\nMy ideal vacation used to be walking from the hotel to the beach and back multiple times a day. \nNow that I actually live near a beach I’d be more willing to do more on vacation.",
">\n\nI’ll do ya one better - vacation isn’t enjoyable. I’d much rather spend that off time not traveling and just chilling",
">\n\nHow to say I'm an introvert without saying I'm an introvert.",
">\n\nWhat’s the point in going abroad if you’re gonna do exactly the same thing you can do at home? I like to do everything I can that’s exclusive to that particular place while I’m that place. While I’ve got the opportunity to, I do everything I can only do there and go and explore. If all I wanna do is eat, sleep and game, I’ll just stay at home and save my money. I don’t see the point.",
">\n\nI like doing what you just described on vacation, but I also like doing stuff on vacation",
">\n\nI’m with OP. All I need if I’m traveling somewhere for vacation is warm weather, a hot tub, a couple good meals, and access to a casino. I don’t wanna do shit.",
">\n\nI love those type but it depends, if you travel you should do something, flying across country/world to lie around doing nothing is just a waste",
">\n\nFor me vacations have to be active. I do things. I cycle. I hike. I swim in the sea.\nI could not just sit in the hotel.\nHowever I come from country where its is often that men take hiday to fix things in house. Remodel a room, paint job, make bathroom from pipes to tiles. That kind of holidays I prefer not to have.",
">\n\nI mean if im going to somewhere where I usually don’t go i wanna see and do stuff, I can game and sleep on the weekends lmao",
">\n\nI’d like my vacation to be a time where I have time for both exploring and to sit my ass down and read a book or whatever. Vacations where each day is chock full of planned trips and events will stress me out before I even get there.",
">\n\nI am mostly with you there.\nThere is a surprisingly large number of better off people that fly somewhere for three-five days, do tons of things, and then fly back, as a form of \"vacation\". There are numerous articles in periodicals about \"X days in (insert location here)\" to show the best action packed itineraries in cities around the world. I always thought that eccentric, but no, there are people that really do that. I've met several in person, but there are several travel forums online where people discuss travel issues or plans and this kind of activity is 'normal' amongst the better off.\nBefore I had any money to travel, I was shocked at how could anyone dump that much cost into flights and not even stay somewhere that long. I'd barely go somewhere every 2 years, but when I did, I made dang sure that the money for the flight was worth the time I took off.\nNow that I have money to travel more, I am perhaps more shocked that people would ever pack that many activities into a given day. I like doing things in Berlin, Paris, Madrid, New York, Tokyo, etc. too, but like my typical day on a vacation is ONE activity that day (one museum, one major attraction, one tour), two long meals, and the rest of the time I am just chilling in my room, at the pool, (or a park or a cafe) reading or engaged in the act of 'doing nothing'. And, half my vacations need to be somewhere natural (beach or mountains), no rental car needed, where a 'casual walk' is the activity for the day. The whole idea of scheduling anything more than 1 thing prevents me from relaxing and enjoying myself.",
">\n\nA gaming vacation is not a vacation for me…\nI mean of course you can stay at home enjoy your free time and game a bit or a lot - however you want.\nBut if i have free time i‘d rather go somewhere and experience things i have never experienced.",
">\n\nI totally agree. My parents used to drag us on vacations that were packed with activities all freaking day, starting at 8am. Like no, let me sleep in and read a book without having an agenda for the day!\nThis is location dependent though. If I was traveling to a cool place, that’s one thing. But this was to the beach and if I’m at the beach I want to just relax!",
">\n\nI love do nothing vacations",
">\n\nLove staycations. I just sleep and eat, and maybe find new places to eat, and I tend to sleep a lot too. Maybe I'll check out some smaller shops that I've been to lazy to find. Probably not though. But I might consider it if there are good/new places to eat.\nI usually eat out once a week but on my staycations, I go wild. I might eat out up to 4 times. Bringing down the house here.",
">\n\nI think traveling and vacation are two different things. Some like doing nothing and some are there so see the country. And you do you, right?",
">\n\nNaw I agree with this… like I’m down to travel, but I want to travel somewhere where I can lay on a beach, or beside a pool, and read a book and drink wine all day! Don’t talk to me!",
">\n\nTo each their own I guess. If I'm paying all that money for travel, hotel, etc, then I for sure want to make the most out of the trip! Take in the sights, enjoy the local attractions, etc. Unless you mean more like a 'staycation', then I get what you mean lol",
">\n\nI am not. Resorts are stupid expensive and not worth the money.",
">\n\nMy dad and I every summer go to a nice beach somewhat far from where we live. It's a fun road trip, followed by just chilling. We'll rent a condo out, and do like 3 things a day. \nHe gets up early to set up the beach stuff (tents & chairs) and i play video games for a bitm Then, I go down there and join him. After that, we go to lunch. That's it. I'd much rather do that than do a million things within 2 days. Agreed",
">\n\nWhat you’re describing wouldn’t be considered a vacation in the first place. Just sounds like a break from work. Sure you may bust your ass so it feels like a “vacation” to you, but if we are getting technical, that wouldn’t be called a vacation.",
">\n\nFrom Google:\n\"an extended period of leisure and recreation, especially one spent away from home or in traveling.\"\nSo what I am describing absolutely counts as vacation",
">\n\nStrongly disagree. I plan my vacations hour by hour. Not having plans makes me anxious",
">\n\nI posted about this without any acknowledgment haha anyways I also hate vacation. Its more stress than fun for me.",
">\n\nI kinda agree. Last summer my husband and I took a vacation to Nashville, and he decided we should spend the whole time playing Pokémon Go. I can think of nothing less relaxing than walking hours and hours on end in 90+ degree heat. I don’t even like Pokémon! Only he does. 0/10 worst ‘vacation’ ever. Why even spend the money going to another city to do something he does every day at home? I simply don’t understand.",
">\n\nWe spend the week at the beach, doing nothing but sunbathing, swimming, drinking and eating. Maybe play some cornhole or just talk to family. Been doing it for going on 50 years, and have 4 generations, same big beach house. It does take a lot of alcohol though - ngl.",
">\n\nI don't think a vacation is a proper vacation if you don't actually get to relax for some of it. Sure I'll want to do some exploring but running on a tight schedule every day of my trip is miserable.",
">\n\nRedditor discovers not all people have the same opinion as they do.",
">\n\nYeah for a vacation from work where you just stay at home",
">\n\nWhy are you spending money on traveling if you’re not doing anything but sit around, sleep, and play video games…..that makes no sense. Do you travel with people? And what do they think of this?",
">\n\nI am the same. I don't want to need a vacation from my vacation when I get back.",
">\n\nI want to do a few things on vacation. Things that are fun and unique to the place I’ve travelled to. BUT…I absolutely will not travel with what I call “sheepherder” people. The people that will plan jam-packed days of activities, breakfast all the way to dinner and after, and then beat you in the face with the schedule. They also tend to be the ones to act disappointed when you want to break from the group activities and sit some things out. I’m not spending MY money to be supporting cast in someone else’s vacation visions. \nIf we’re at a festival, there’s usually one or two groups I want to see that day, and the rest of the day is… Whatever. We’ll catch others, or not. Maybe I need to sleep? Maybe I need to sit around and chill with friends. Or just wander aimlessly. I’m going to do whatever I feel like doing. If vacationing in a city, I might make some dinner reservations where I otherwise wouldn’t be able to eat if I didn’t, but everything else will is literally “what I feel like doing right now”. Could be anything…shop, lay by the pool, get a pedicure, or just sit in the huge tub with a bottle of champagne and order room service. \nMy vacations have to be 85-90% unstructured/uncommitted time, so I can fill as I desire in the moment. Hence my outright refusal to travel with “sheepherders”.\nBut gaming? That’s a staycation. Definitely don’t pay to travel somewhere else to sit around and game (or surf Reddit). If that’s what you wanna do, that’s cool, just stay home and go nuts with it.",
">\n\nMy last vacation was with a guy I was seeing. Every single day we got up early to do something. The events were fun but I didn’t enjoy myself that much because I agree here, a vacation should allow for late sleeping and less activity than work.",
">\n\nWe stay home and do nothing all the time because of husband's job and call back so when we go on vacay and work is blocked on my phone until we get home(learned the hard way), we are able to do things without \"Oh S, we're short staffed/so and so called off. Can you come in/Dr won't work with anyone else, can you fly back across country for one day(this why work will be blocked)it's a lovely treat.",
">\n\nI had a boss who declared “I want you to take a vacation. But I want you to go somewhere.” Kind of defeated the idea for me of having time off from work and not having to do what the boss tells you to do.",
">\n\nI'd tell him sure, as long as he pays for the trip lol",
">\n\ncongratulations, you are neurodivergent lol",
">\n\nI don't really have time to game, I'm usually either working, volunteering, or doing chores around the house I recently purchased. I usually work 50+ hours a week, sometimes 70. That's why I like to do it on my vacation.",
">\n\nIf you mean “staycations” then I’m with you. Unless you’re rich as fuck to travel to a beautiful city and chill in your hotel room because you like the hotel at that place then idk what to tell ya. You do you.",
">\n\nWhen I was young, we didn’t go on a lot of vacations because my parents didn’t have a lot of money. When we did go, they were jam packed with stuff to do, down to an itinerary for every day. As an adult, I like to have a combination of downtime and sightseeing. I’m not spending tons of money to just sleep and eat in another location. I just don’t want to have a set schedule for every minute of the day, I’ll sleep in if I want to and then go to the show I have tickets for in the evening, the rest of the day is open for whatever.",
">\n\nI spend enough time sitting on my ass, I wanna get new experiences and try fun new things",
">\n\nI’m with you on this. Every holiday I’ve been on as an adult I’ve ended early. Too much effort when really I just want to switch off entirely. 👍",
">\n\nOne day you’re gonna look back and wish you had seen more of the world.",
">\n\nTravel is not vacation. These are different activities with different objectives and different results.",
">\n\nI agree. This is why I hate traveling with my parents. They want to plan something for every minute of the day from 8am to 10pm. When I go on vacation I plan maybe one or two things a day that can be canceled if I decide I just feel like vegging for the day. My ideal vacation is one where I just have to eat, drink and sleep.",
">\n\nI used to feel like this until I started traveling more and actually doing things on vacation more. \nWhen you have more experiences, you’re more of an interesting person. You contribute more to conversations. You go on a date and the person across the table talks about snowboarding? ‘Yeah I went on a skiing trip in big bear in 2016. Why do you prefer snowboarding’?",
">\n\nAgreed. Wife asked what I want for my bday… I said to check into a hotel the night before with no phone and sit in silence until checkout.",
">\n\nI have a very active job, so for me, vacation means taking it easy, relaxing, unwinding, chilling at the pool sipping cocktails. \nHowever, I can imagine that if you work a dull desk job 9-5, you're craving for some adventure.\nTo each their own.",
">\n\nWhen I went on vacation with my friend, we clashed over this topic during the trip… Before she confirmed she was up for this trip, I made it very clear I wanted to explore the atmosphere in these new environments. Later on, she was passively hinting that she wanted to go back to the Airbnb to play video games and watch this series with her on Netflix, and then later finally snapped at me that she is tired and wants me to drive her back. It was only 5:00. It killed the vibe for me. Why bother traveling for vacation if you don’t want to do anything? You can easily eat, sleep, and play video games at home. If you truly want to do nothing, why not have a staycation? I’m never understood this",
">\n\nMy parents used to be so bad about this. They would pack days with different things to do and times reserved for this show or that tour and whatnot. I am not kidding when I say I have never seen my parents as stressed out and frustrated as when we would be on vacation lol",
">\n\nWow, you sound like lots of fun",
">\n\nWhat are you defining vacation as? A time where you leave work to travel to a different place… or are you just talking about not having to work? \nTaking a week off to do nothing and recharge is awesome, taking time to go ski, or visit a different city, or go to a concert, or sight see is also awesome. \nThat’s said I don’t like an over organized vacation. Let’s plan a few things, and then let’s see what we want to do and what we discover.",
">\n\nThis only works for staycations or when I vacation somewhere I’ve been many times before. My family vacations at the same place almost every summer, and there’s really nothing to do there other than go to the beach and chill.\nBut when we travel someplace new or outside of the country, we are definitely sight-seeing and going on excursions. Not paying all that money to not see new things, sorry I can sleep at home or on some American beach I’ve been to a million times.",
">\n\nPopular af",
">\n\nTruth. Sit by a pool for ten days and relax. If you find something that’s interests you during that time then do it but making plans and having to do things is the opposite of what I want to do on vacation.",
">\n\nI agree. Did plans and tried to follow that year, no satisfaction. This year i said let it be as it gets, was fine, did many nice things and had rest.",
">\n\nLazy bastard",
">\n\nbut i find going to shit enjoyable I travel to see shit, if I do what you describe I just stay home",
">\n\nI get where you're coming from if the vacation is with your entire family... at Disney, sweating your ass off in line and trying to make deadlines so you don't miss \"special\" stuff. That sounds abysmal. However I do enjoy a good camping vacation where we plan hikes and dinners at local places in the middle of no where. Thats fun. \n\nVegging out is also fun, but I don't really consider that \"vacation\".",
">\n\nBoning too",
">\n\nOk, enjoy I guess? Obviously we all have our own preferences for vacationing. I personally find your style boring, but it’s not like we’re married or anything",
">\n\nYou can do that at home, when I go at vacations I want to see and do as many things I can",
">\n\nSounds like a you thing.",
">\n\nThere’s a certain Yin-Yang balance to “being” and “doing”. If you’re so caught up with doing in your life that you feel the need to relax, then you might enjoy taking a couple of days/weeks to just “be”. i.e read, eat, sleep, game, whatever - it is super healthy, and you shouldn’t put pressure on yourself to do anything else. \nNot everyone recharges from just being though. Others get their energy from stimulating activities and just generally “doing”. If you go to a touristy resort, you’ll generally find that they’ll offer a mix of relaxation and energetic activities to accommodate all types of people. \nThere is no one way of living that applies to everyone. It’s nuanced and varies person to person. Find the balance that works for you and you’ll live a happy life",
">\n\nWe went to Hawaii on vacation just last week. We made sure not to plan anything to do. We went to the beach, swam, tanned, ate local food, and just relaxed somewhere warm and away from the snow. Best vacation we have ever had.",
">\n\nWhen I vacation I don’t make any plans. I have sex and do things spontaneously",
">\n\nVacations where you do all kinds of things, at a whim, may be the best kind.\nI don't like having an itinerary either. Got to be at this place on this day at this time. Then got to be over here, at this time. I'd rather fly by the seat my pants. And I've stumbled across all kinds of festivals and events, like this, that I wouldn't have even thought to plan on catching at the right place and time.\nStaycations can be pretty sweet, too, which is what I think you're describing.",
">\n\nI agree 100%. I hate itenaries. Book the trip and enjoy the days as they come.",
">\n\nIn December, I went to Miami after a particularly brutal fall semester ended, and forced myself to just sit on a beach for 3 days to relax and unwind. It was fine, but tbh will probably never do it again. When I go places, I want to see said places. Otherwise I might as well just stay home. I think there's even a word for it?",
">\n\nVacation events are max 2 a day. 2 museums, or 2 activities, however you want to mix it up 2 events only per day. Any more and you get a time crunch. Two is flexible, you can do more if you feel up to it but are not obligated. Gives you time for relaxed meals and to decompress at the end of the day.\nWas on a trip where a guy tried to hit six museums in a day. You remember nothing except the rush.",
">\n\nI can do nothing anytime, if I'm on vacation I'm doing all the shit.",
">\n\nIt's somewhat rare that I get to do nothing.",
">\n\nI like a good mix. I don’t see any point\nIn spending money to travel to a different location and stay in my hotel room the whole time. I could do that at home. But I also do not want a Clark Griswald itinerary type vacation. My perfect scenario is eat lots of good food, walk on the beach, have drinks, be in and near water, take naps by the pool or beach, maybe go see or do a couple of things if we feel like it. No schedule is the main thing that relaxes me.",
">\n\nWhen I go to Iceland I'm not just going to lounge around and sit inside and do nothing I'm gonna go out and explore and drive around and see shit.",
">\n\nI have enjoyed both types. A vacation can be a big break from the home routine - maybe at home you sit in a cubicle in front of a screen, so climbing a mountain will mentally and emotionally recharge you. Or, maybe home life is stress, traffic and grey skies. In which case you can enjoy a stay on a beach doing very little."
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Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.
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Well it's so convenient
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing."
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Personally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient"
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But they always come damaged.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery"
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Warehouse deals!
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged."
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Luckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!"
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Surely the camera got his license plate too
What a moron
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo."
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It would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron"
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Regrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge."
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They always forget about the chevy nuts
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package."
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The man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read "Chevrolet," police said
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts"
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Thank God
ETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said"
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Well, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?
Edit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down."
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You may be interested in a concept called "free will".
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?"
] |
>
An omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent.
Free will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against "The Problem of Natural Evil."
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\"."
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That’s… the opposite of free will….
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\""
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No, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will…."
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If God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good."
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You seem to not know what omnipotence is.
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition."
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you’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is."
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Crazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped"
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The should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face."
] |
>
This is the worst plan ever.
Does he even understand physics in the slightest?
How many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window."
] |
>
I mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.
Teach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms."
] |
>
Also, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks."
] |
>
If someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back."
] |
>
I’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got."
] |
>
Good advice, thanks
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes."
] |
>
So he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks"
] |
>
It was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description ("stacies").
If that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought.
It also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here"
] |
>
Didn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation."
] |
>
It's an incel term, the female version of a "Chad" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos.
It's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as "females" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has "too much" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?"
] |
>
My god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) ."
] |
>
Those terms? - I thought this was clincal AF.
"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich."
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms."
] |
>
re-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\""
] |
>
This is some Israel Keys stuff
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel"
] |
>
Find that fucker. Check his basement.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff"
] |
>
You mean his mom's basement?
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement."
] |
>
Trailers don’t have basements!
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?"
] |
>
My significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!"
] |
>
Chevrolet PR department the next morning:
"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?"
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!"
] |
>
Don’t worry they’ll just extend truck month
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\""
] |
>
He needs life in prison.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month"
] |
>
He's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison."
] |
>
As Bugs Bunny would say, "What a Moroon".
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us."
] |
>
Fitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\"."
] |
>
"Hello, my name is mud."
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote."
] |
>
Not that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the "snare" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\""
] |
>
There should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with."
] |
>
Or a cup of hot coffee.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this."
] |
>
There was absolutely zero chance that was going to work.
Anyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee."
] |
>
Just another incel looking for a "date".
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko."
] |
>
Leave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\"."
] |
>
This is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general"
] |
>
What was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time."
] |
>
By the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere."
] |
>
Sadly, you’re probably correct.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore."
] |
>
Doing a little Israel keyes...
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct."
] |
>
Was waiting for this reference
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes..."
] |
>
What was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference"
] |
>
Zip tie looped into a "snare". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?"
] |
>
It’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.
That, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still."
] |
>
Rogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics."
] |
>
What a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s"
] |
>
Minor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???"
] |
>
Does anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?
God I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser."
] |
>
A relevant quote
I’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on"
] |
>
It makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to "help them out with material or let them work with him" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault.
He was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them."
] |
>
I think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society."
] |
>
he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.
He took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and "asked them" to join him in a sexual act.
You might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers.
Sure, he can always claim he "would never do that" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.
I think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow "innocent" about his intention.
Dude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then "didn't realize" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?
something to think about.
ETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show "Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them."
] |
>
People say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean."
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You don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:
"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.
"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.
"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.
Louis CK, on the situation.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct."
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Bikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation."
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The BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this."
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I was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff."
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lock him up for at least 10 years
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand."
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>
The last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years"
] |
>
I worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.
He was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.
|
[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances."
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He stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with."
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Forgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!"
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WTF is wrong with people?!
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee."
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If only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!"
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I don't want to live on this planet anymore...
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach"
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Folks is wild. What's wrong with people???
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore..."
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Brain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.
Man: shut up brain!
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???"
] |
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This is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!"
] |
>
Hope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!"
] |
>
So, what kind of twisted sick justification do you think the man thought had for this?
I'm morbidly curious what was going through that guy's mind?
"GRRR GRRR ME ANGRY ME MAD GRRRRR GRRERR I'M GOING TO BUY A ZIPTIE AND KIDNAP SOMEONE THROUGH A WINDOW, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!"
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!",
">\n\nHope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?"
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Our educational system has failed. Clearly someone in this man's life should have taught him how to make his own coffee before he resorted to this.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!",
">\n\nHope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?",
">\n\nSo, what kind of twisted sick justification do you think the man thought had for this?\nI'm morbidly curious what was going through that guy's mind?\n\"GRRR GRRR ME ANGRY ME MAD GRRRRR GRRERR I'M GOING TO BUY A ZIPTIE AND KIDNAP SOMEONE THROUGH A WINDOW, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!\""
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Thank you so so so much for introducing me to a new comedian. This is absolutely hilarious!! Shayne Smith is great.
Edit: I dont know why I'm getting downvotes for this, what's he done?
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!",
">\n\nHope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?",
">\n\nSo, what kind of twisted sick justification do you think the man thought had for this?\nI'm morbidly curious what was going through that guy's mind?\n\"GRRR GRRR ME ANGRY ME MAD GRRRRR GRRERR I'M GOING TO BUY A ZIPTIE AND KIDNAP SOMEONE THROUGH A WINDOW, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!\"",
">\n\nOur educational system has failed. Clearly someone in this man's life should have taught him how to make his own coffee before he resorted to this."
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What was he doing with his right hand? It looks like he was poking or hitting her with a long stick or wand or something? Was this really an attempted kidnapping or a stupid, drunk redneck trying to tickle some poor barista? Honestly wouldn't be surprised either way, nor do I care, off to jail for you, Bubba.
EDIT: Zip Tie - Bubba was tryina' snatch not tickle. I hope his cellmate has a Ford tattoo.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!",
">\n\nHope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?",
">\n\nSo, what kind of twisted sick justification do you think the man thought had for this?\nI'm morbidly curious what was going through that guy's mind?\n\"GRRR GRRR ME ANGRY ME MAD GRRRRR GRRERR I'M GOING TO BUY A ZIPTIE AND KIDNAP SOMEONE THROUGH A WINDOW, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!\"",
">\n\nOur educational system has failed. Clearly someone in this man's life should have taught him how to make his own coffee before he resorted to this.",
">\n\nThank you so so so much for introducing me to a new comedian. This is absolutely hilarious!! Shayne Smith is great. \nEdit: I dont know why I'm getting downvotes for this, what's he done?"
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Linked article identifies it as a looped zip tie. He was trying to snare her.
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[
"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!",
">\n\nHope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?",
">\n\nSo, what kind of twisted sick justification do you think the man thought had for this?\nI'm morbidly curious what was going through that guy's mind?\n\"GRRR GRRR ME ANGRY ME MAD GRRRRR GRRERR I'M GOING TO BUY A ZIPTIE AND KIDNAP SOMEONE THROUGH A WINDOW, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!\"",
">\n\nOur educational system has failed. Clearly someone in this man's life should have taught him how to make his own coffee before he resorted to this.",
">\n\nThank you so so so much for introducing me to a new comedian. This is absolutely hilarious!! Shayne Smith is great. \nEdit: I dont know why I'm getting downvotes for this, what's he done?",
">\n\nWhat was he doing with his right hand? It looks like he was poking or hitting her with a long stick or wand or something? Was this really an attempted kidnapping or a stupid, drunk redneck trying to tickle some poor barista? Honestly wouldn't be surprised either way, nor do I care, off to jail for you, Bubba.\nEDIT: Zip Tie - Bubba was tryina' snatch not tickle. I hope his cellmate has a Ford tattoo."
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Lol I just want someone to ask him how in the hell he expected that to work. What a dumbass.
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"Good for the Barista for being quick. I guess drive through kidnapping is now a thing.",
">\n\nWell it's so convenient",
">\n\nPersonally I just Amazon my kidnap victims, with prime there’s still a decent chance they are alive to with two day delivery",
">\n\nBut they always come damaged.",
">\n\nWarehouse deals!",
">\n\nLuckily he was dumb enough to do it with a gigantic tattoo.",
">\n\nSurely the camera got his license plate too\nWhat a moron",
">\n\nIt would be funny if he drove a ford or dodge.",
">\n\nRegrettably I think it's a Silverado. Might be the AT4 package.",
">\n\nThey always forget about the chevy nuts",
">\n\nThe man has a tattoo on his left forearm that appears to read \"Chevrolet,\" police said",
">\n\nThank God\nETA: Oh ffs, I am not even remotely religious. It’s just a figure of speech. Calm down.",
">\n\nWell, god made the guy in the truck too. So also, what the fuck God?\nEdit: This is the most insanely up/down comment I've ever posted--it went from +25 to -32 in like an hour. Did this get brigaded by religious folks or something?",
">\n\nYou may be interested in a concept called \"free will\".",
">\n\nAn omnipotent God, like the Judeo-Christian God, could create a species that had free will yet also always chose the perfect thing to do. Because he is omnipotent. \nFree will isn't the catch-all got-em you think it is. It's actually an incredibly weak theological argument against \"The Problem of Natural Evil.\"",
">\n\nThat’s… the opposite of free will….",
">\n\nNo, it isn't. An omnipotent God can create a free will within a species that still always chooses good.",
">\n\nIf God ensures we always choose good, we don’t have free will by definition.",
">\n\nYou seem to not know what omnipotence is.",
">\n\nyou’re right, a truly omnipotent god would make a species that chooses to get into pointless Reddit arguments to make themselves feel good on a post about someone almost getting kidnapped",
">\n\nCrazy. Would love to see scalding hot coffee thrown in his face.",
">\n\nThe should just keep a pot of hot coffee next to the window.",
">\n\nThis is the worst plan ever.\nDoes he even understand physics in the slightest?\nHow many times did he run this over in his head where she just magically leaped through his window into his arms.",
">\n\nI mean the guy is huge, if he got that snare around her arm he might have been able to pull her though with weight alone. That said tying yourself to a women fighting for her life in a confined space seems to be a real dumb idea.\nTeach your daughters to bite and gouge out eyes folks.",
">\n\nAlso, they say that you should expect to get hurt while fighting for your life. Not wanting to get hurt can inhibit your fight. Be ferocious, Get angry, accept that you will get hurt, don't hold back.",
">\n\nIf someone is trying to get you into a car, your chances of getting out of the situation alive are next to nothing if they succeed. So you have nothing to lose by giving it everything you've got.",
">\n\nI’d take some self defense clssses instead of randomly flailing. I teach jiu jitsu and I’ve seen plenty of first time adults get absolutely gassed when they go up against some of the 11 - 15 year olds in less than a minute because they can’t get free from a child attempting to choke them out. People tend to flail and assume their adrenaline, luck, biting, flailing, etc will carry them through a situation like that. If you don’t regularly train some kind of Martial art or any kind of high intensity work out, you will easily be overpowered by someone larger than you and gas yourself out in a matter of minutes.",
">\n\nGood advice, thanks",
">\n\nSo he was going to pull a 100+ lb woman through a window (with one arm), drag her behind his truck until he can get her into the vehicle, all while displaying visible tattoos caught on surveillance camera. Real genius thinking here",
">\n\nIt was a bikini-based coffee shop (just found out those exist) and some people theorized that this might be more in line with massage parlor shootings or other examples of anti female hate-crimes, which usually target sex workers or women of her description (\"stacies\").\nIf that's the case, giving her horrible road rash as punishment for wearing a bikini seems right in line with that style of thought. \nIt also means you're a lot less concerned with self-preservation.",
">\n\nDidn’t realize it was that type of coffee shop from the article. That does change the dynamic a bit. Still evil of course but maybe motivated like you say. Also what’s a Stacy?",
">\n\nIt's an incel term, the female version of a \"Chad\" except worse. The highschool girls, sorority sisters, Instagram models, etc. young, attractive, sexually active (or aleast could be, just not with you) these types of girls and sex workers are often the ones cited in their manifestos. \nIt's a way of dehumanizing them (us), same way they refer to us as \"females\" like we're animals or roasties (a term based on the false belief that when a woman has \"too much\" sex her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich) .",
">\n\nMy god. I’m glad I’ve never encountered people that use those terms.",
">\n\nThose terms? - I thought this was clincal AF. \n\"her labia minora become long and saggy and leak out the vulva like roast beef off a sandwich.\"",
">\n\nre-reading this now, it sounds like an incel-written smut novel",
">\n\nThis is some Israel Keys stuff",
">\n\nFind that fucker. Check his basement.",
">\n\nYou mean his mom's basement?",
">\n\nTrailers don’t have basements!",
">\n\nMy significant others parents put a double-wide on top of a submerged concrete structure to create a trailer with a basement - cost them a fuck ton but c'est la vie!",
">\n\nChevrolet PR department the next morning:\n\"What a beautify morning! I wonder what the day will bring- OH WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?\"",
">\n\nDon’t worry they’ll just extend truck month",
">\n\nHe needs life in prison.",
">\n\nHe's demonstrated himself to be a clear danger to civil society. I don't think we're going to be missing much if this guy is kept far away from the rest of us.",
">\n\nAs Bugs Bunny would say, \"What a Moroon\".",
">\n\nFitting, as he seemed to have the same understanding of physics as Wile E. Coyote.",
">\n\n\"Hello, my name is mud.\"",
">\n\nNot that kidnapping anyone is ever a genius idea, but this one seems particularly bad. Even if he could get the \"snare\" on her and hold on, she'd be able to brace herself against the wall, the window, or use a million things near her to break free or hit him with.",
">\n\nThere should be a meat cleaver under the window so they can just amputate anyone who tries this.",
">\n\nOr a cup of hot coffee.",
">\n\nThere was absolutely zero chance that was going to work. \nAnyone in here saying “well he was a big guy” is just wrong. Have you all never tried to handle even a toddler who decides to fight against you or even go limp when taking them to bed? Now make them the size of an adult and two windows between you both with only an arm for leverage? No. Dude’s a wacko.",
">\n\nJust another incel looking for a \"date\".",
">\n\nLeave the body pillow boys alone bro this dude is just a monster in general",
">\n\nThis is definitely a felony right? This poor girl probably is traumatized af from this. Hope the guy gets jail time.",
">\n\nWhat was he thinking. Cameras are everywhere.",
">\n\nBy the time that footage was found she would be dead and it wouldn’t matter anymore.",
">\n\nSadly, you’re probably correct.",
">\n\nDoing a little Israel keyes...",
">\n\nWas waiting for this reference",
">\n\nWhat was that in his right hand that he tried to hit her with?",
">\n\nZip tie looped into a \"snare\". Really could not be any more bizarre. Actually, never mind, I'm sure it could. But still.",
">\n\nIt’s the giant Chevrolet tattoo on his arm for me.\nThat, and this guy’s seemingly complete lack of understanding of earth-bound physics.",
">\n\nRogue marketing has gotten more literal and weirder at the same time. /s",
">\n\nWhat a lazy fucker. No one kidnaps-in anymore???",
">\n\nMinor detail, but it looks like he stalled out before driving off. Way to go, you fucking loser.",
">\n\nDoes anyone else feel guilty being a guy and don't understand how women are able to walk out the house or take a chance on a new relationship?\nGod I feel guilty with all the extreme male crime going on",
">\n\nA relevant quote\n\nI’m always happy when I see a couple on a date ’cause it means people are still trying, you know? You see a couple on a date, It means there’s still courage out there. That takes courage, to go on a date, for both sides, Two very different kinds of courage. The male courage, traditionally speaking, is that he decided to ask. He went up to a random woman who he has no idea If she’s gonna like him or not and he walked up to her terrified. Everything in your body is telling you, “just go the fuck home and jerk off. Don’t do this!” But he walked up and said, “hi. Yes,” And she’s like, “ehw” “No, no, no. A second. Give me a second,” And you try to get through this membrane of, you know– And then, if it works And you say, “you wanna go out sometime?” Sometimes she’ll say yes, and if she says yes, that’s her courage, and the courage it takes for a woman to say yes is beyond anything I can imagine. A woman saying yes to a date with a man is literally insane and ill-advised, and the whole species’ existence counts on them doing it, and I don’t know how they– How do women still go out with guys when you consider the fact that there is no greater threat to women than men? We’re the number-one threat to women. Globally and historically, we’re the number-one cause of injury and mayhem to women. We’re the worst thing that ever happens to them.",
">\n\nIt makes it worse when you realize that the guy who said this, during his standup, was a sexual predator who got caught coercing female comedians to watch him pleasure himself in his hotel room. he would agree to \"help them out with material or let them work with him\" and then after the show get them into a hotel room and then start his manipulation and assault. \nHe was concerned for women because he was projecting himself onto society.",
">\n\nI think your wording is a bit twisted from the statements provided by those involved. He may have put some women in uncomfortable positions, but from any of their statements and the quotes in the ny times article, he seemed to be up front with his intentions each time. Which may be inappropriate given some were workplace environments, but not the same as luring someone in with false intentions and manipulating them.",
">\n\n\nhe seemed to be up front with his intentions each time.\n\nHe took women who respected his well-respected position in the industry, and his ability to make or break their careers on his recommendation or panning, and \"asked them\" to join him in a sexual act. \nYou might not realize it, but the implication he was using as manipulation was that he could trash their careers. \nSure, he can always claim he \"would never do that\" but at the same time, why wouldn't he seek out other women to do this with and instead focus on the ones who were professionally beholden to him.\nI think you're purposely reducing his power dynamic to act like he was somehow \"innocent\" about his intention. \nDude literally wrote stand up about how guys predate on women if given the chance, and then \"didn't realize\" he was abusing his power to gain sexual favors?\nsomething to think about.\nETA: There's a dark comedy sketch in the show \"Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia\" about buying a boat, taking out women, and the implication. Go look up the short scene on youtube to help highlight what I mean.",
">\n\nPeople say that with the context of where he is now. Back then he was a standup comic working small crowds of a hundred or less not thousands and more, he had just lost directing and writing rights to pootie tang that was at the time a box office flop, hbo gave him a show that did not get renewed. His career didn't take off to create a power dynamic until after these things occurred, 2008 was oh my god on hbo which is when he really started to gain traction. His actions were wrong to the women, but the idea that he had power like weinstein is nowhere near correct.",
">\n\nYou don't have to believe me, maybe you can believe him:\n\n\"These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true. But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly. \n\"I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn't want to hear it. I didn't think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.\n\"There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with.\n\nLouis CK, on the situation.",
">\n\nBikini baristas are brave af. Seems like the job could attract a lot of creeps like this.",
">\n\nThe BB stands are always in the worst neighborhoods too. At least strip clubs have a building and security staff.",
">\n\nI was just thinking about that. Like at least the girls at clubs tend to be somewhat more protected. Seems like she was working all alone at 5am in that tiny stand.",
">\n\nlock him up for at least 10 years",
">\n\nThe last guy they let go for attempted kidnapping just killed a mother of two this past spring in Memphis. Lock him up forever. No second chances.",
">\n\nI worked at a shitty restaurant that for some reason hired a 40-something dickhead with an aggravated kidnapping charge. They somehow missed this fact that I discovered with a five-minute Google search.\nHe was fired for making rapey comments to a college-aged girl and probably not a year later murdered a local business owner whose wife he was sleeping with.",
">\n\nHe stopped after she pulled away? Was he thinking of getting the cash he dropped? What a maroon!",
">\n\nForgot his coffee. Can't make good decisions until he's had his coffee.",
">\n\nWTF is wrong with people?!",
">\n\nIf only there was some hot McDonalds coffee within reach",
">\n\nI don't want to live on this planet anymore...",
">\n\nFolks is wild. What's wrong with people???",
">\n\nBrain: hey, drivethrus have cameras, that's how they know you're there, and also you'll be in your car with a license plate.\nMan: shut up brain!",
">\n\nThis is absolutely terrifying. That poor barista!",
">\n\nHope they catch the sick fuck before he gets someone. People are so fucking nasty and sick and twisted and fucked up in the head. What kind of sick fuck tries to do this to someone?",
">\n\nSo, what kind of twisted sick justification do you think the man thought had for this?\nI'm morbidly curious what was going through that guy's mind?\n\"GRRR GRRR ME ANGRY ME MAD GRRRRR GRRERR I'M GOING TO BUY A ZIPTIE AND KIDNAP SOMEONE THROUGH A WINDOW, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!\"",
">\n\nOur educational system has failed. Clearly someone in this man's life should have taught him how to make his own coffee before he resorted to this.",
">\n\nThank you so so so much for introducing me to a new comedian. This is absolutely hilarious!! Shayne Smith is great. \nEdit: I dont know why I'm getting downvotes for this, what's he done?",
">\n\nWhat was he doing with his right hand? It looks like he was poking or hitting her with a long stick or wand or something? Was this really an attempted kidnapping or a stupid, drunk redneck trying to tickle some poor barista? Honestly wouldn't be surprised either way, nor do I care, off to jail for you, Bubba.\nEDIT: Zip Tie - Bubba was tryina' snatch not tickle. I hope his cellmate has a Ford tattoo.",
">\n\nLinked article identifies it as a looped zip tie. He was trying to snare her."
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