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This is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government."
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I remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's.
What an incredible waste of money.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”"
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How many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money."
] |
>
Wow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?"
] |
>
"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!"
"No, not like that"
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens."
] |
>
It’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\""
] |
>
can I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this."
] |
>
Oh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens."
] |
>
What a literal dumbass
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers."
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What a waste of time this ass hat has for culture
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass"
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Waste money, patience and people to "own the libs" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: "Wait, why are people dying?"
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture"
] |
>
Maybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\""
] |
>
Can this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?"
] |
>
The only time "drag show" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured…."
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if they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks"
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I have to live in this disgusting state
Trying my best to get back up north.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy"
] |
>
I left in April, and will never go back.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north."
] |
>
Half of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back."
] |
>
Fucking Nazi.
They need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.
|
[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them."
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Ridiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows."
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Not anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government"
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Does his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……"
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There are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious."
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If they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself."
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I live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think."
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Maybe he should start with his wife
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it."
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>
Right? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife"
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The FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen."
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Take the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain."
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Ron DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government"
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Republicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events."
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“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”
You can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred."
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I think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy."
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Why does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans."
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I’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)"
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Isn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has."
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This guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?"
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I lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others."
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Again, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country."
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DeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety.
Apply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point."
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I bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead."
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Yeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law."
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DeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis."
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DeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.
Republicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.
When this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.
But what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man."
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If they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.
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[
"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him."
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Please tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters."
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Really important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…
But yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis."
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Complete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community."
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Friggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self.
Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office"
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To put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live."
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Hell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate."
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This same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps."
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Standard wedge issue tactic:
- Pick a powerless minority
- Blame them for something they are not doing
- Feature it in your fundraisers.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much"
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Fascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers."
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This guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY"
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I hear Covid is surging in Florida.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit."
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Is that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida."
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As a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work."
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I would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this."
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WGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…"
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How does this benefit taxpayers?
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?"
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Fucking Nazi loser.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis."
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The biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser."
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Fuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”"
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He's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!
DeSantis has his eye on the White House.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money."
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They have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House."
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What, like the one going on right behind him?
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s"
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Came here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?"
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Keeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!"
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Trump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s"
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If any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?"
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He lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!"
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I remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?"
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What is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that."
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He thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?"
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Meanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is."
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Streisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.
Way to go, DeSantis!
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida."
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We have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!"
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I watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice."
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It's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition."
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Yeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it."
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Can someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?"
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No children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show.
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s",
">\n\nNo children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s",
">\n\nNo children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show.",
">\n\nBut school shootings are OK?"
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s",
">\n\nNo children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show.",
">\n\nBut school shootings are OK?",
">\n\nTo the typical Republican, being gay is in fact worse than being a school shooter."
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s",
">\n\nNo children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show.",
">\n\nBut school shootings are OK?",
">\n\nTo the typical Republican, being gay is in fact worse than being a school shooter.",
">\n\nde santis is a secret cross dresser named rhonda santis"
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Murica and Jebus!!!
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s",
">\n\nNo children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show.",
">\n\nBut school shootings are OK?",
">\n\nTo the typical Republican, being gay is in fact worse than being a school shooter.",
">\n\nde santis is a secret cross dresser named rhonda santis",
">\n\nWhy are these people so stupid?"
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Why don’t you fucking do something to help your constituents you goddamn moron
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"Culture wars and virtue signaling are all Cons have.",
">\n\nUsed to be african americans, then it was gays, then gay marriage, now it's trans people and drag shows (I'm sure I'm missing many steps in there). They always need some kind of marginalized out-group they don't like to vilify and blame.",
">\n\nYou missed \"immigrants\" and now it's \"illegal immigrants\".",
">\n\nYou missed (in no particular order) Chinese immigrants, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Japanese immigrants, Chinese immigrants again...",
">\n\nForgetting “new immigrants”/ Eastern European immigrants",
">\n\nTrue, though I don't think I could write a truly exhaustive list if I tried.",
">\n\nDefinitely not;\nI’ve seen conservatives yell at Native Americans telling them to “go back to where they came from”",
">\n\nWhat a waste of money. Why are republicans so obsessed over drag shows?",
">\n\ni think we all know at this point. Projection. They cant pull it off and find that insensitive and unfair.",
">\n\nPlease don't do the \"all phobes are secret members of the community\" thing. It's dumb and queerphobic, and was only true in some cases before about 2012. When it happened back then, it was because of old-timey misconceptions about gayness, when they thought it was a fetish and not an immutable personality trait.\nDeSantis' breed just have weird ideas about hierarchy and moral purity that makes them think we're evil incarnate.",
">\n\ndid you know that not all drag queens are gay? some are just guys who enjoy the second life of being a beautifully buxom woman every now and again. Thats what makes them a drag queen, and not transgendered. only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans.",
">\n\nWhat is your source for “only a small part of the drag community is actually gay and or trans”? It’s mostly gay men and trans people. Some performers are straight cis men, such as Maddy Morphosis, but they’re certainly in the minority of drag performers.",
">\n\nBruh, I'm trans. I think I know what is and isn't going on in and adjacent to our community.",
">\n\nMy dawg, I'm bi and have no personal preference. You are trying to accuse me of being some kinda phobic when i was on your side till you actively started targeting me because 'you know more than I do'.",
">\n\nHow many families are accidentally finding themselves at drag shows with content they weren’t expecting to see?\nFrom the sound of things, you’d think they’re popping up in every city across the nation. I live in a huge progressive urban city and I’ve never accidentally wound up at a drag show.\nMaybe republicans are just vilifying outgroups like they always do.",
">\n\nI live in Portland I have accidentally ended up at a drag brunch at a bar. But your point is correct, you don’t just wind up at a drag show and then stay through the entire thing by force lol",
">\n\nI picked a random bar in a casino in Vegas to wait for my friend’s flight to come in and they went around to everybody at a certain point and warned everybody a drag show was going to start soon. I was like “ah that’ll be fun cool” and the people at the table next to me paid for their drinks and left immediately. It was kinda weird.",
">\n\nNot everyone likes show tunes.",
">\n\nThey get stuck in your head, it’s true",
">\n\nTrying so hard to win Maga support, meanwhile turning off independent and moderates. I guess he could do 180 after he wins primary I suppose, but I somehow doubt it.",
">\n\nFlorida has slowly been purged of Moderates and independents. It is steadily turning redder. He doesn’t want nor care about mods and independents.",
">\n\nThe Dem/Republican split in Florida is 48/52 with a healthy amount of NPA.\nFlorida being blood red is a DeSantis propaganda taking point.",
">\n\nRon took 59.4% of the vote, up from 49.6% 4 years ago…\nFlorida USED to be 48/52.",
">\n\nBy redistricting! We are deep red now because of Gerrymandering.",
">\n\nYeah but that doesn’t explain a 10% increase in Ron’s vote in a race where districts are irrelevant",
">\n\nI think a former Republican being his opponent didn’t help turn out on the Dem side. But who knows, Covid changed a lot of stuff in that state.",
">\n\nThis investigation is just an excuse for them to legally ban all drag shows. Florida is a dystopian nightmare where conservatives’ culture war is more important than personal freedoms",
">\n\nTheir actual goal is to ban trans and gay people from public life. they are trying to conflate crossdressing with sexualization of children, so they can go and use anti crossdressing laws to harass trans people in public. It's a twisted logic, but it's very clear what their end game with all this is",
">\n\nI suppose they'll include in their investigation bars and strip clubs and other venues that also might have admitted children, but minus the drag queens, right?\nHave they finished going after 8 year old who want to use the bathroom of their choice?\nAnd can teachers in FL teach current events like this without saying \"gay\" or explaining what \"drag\" means? maybe the kids didn't know, and wandered in because they thought it was a show about race cars, since they cannot be educated in that state about sexuality or gender.",
">\n\nIf they want to actually protect children they need to start investigating church’s and Christian schools.",
">\n\nSmall government. Christian fascism.\nFuck Ron.",
">\n\nYou're right. These yahoos hide behind a flimsy veil of Christianity while failing to live by any of the principles found in the New Testament. And it's not just DeSantis - it's all of the other politicians doing the same thing - and just as important, all of the phony Christians voting for him/them. It reminds me of a verse in Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction (1965):\nAnd think of all the hate there is in Red China\nThen take a look around to Selma, Alabama\nAh, you may leave here for four days in space\nBut when you return, it's the same old place\nThe poundin' of the drums, the pride and disgrace\nYou can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace\nHate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace",
">\n\nThese aren’t fake Christians. These are real Christians. When religious people can admit that Christianity is incredibly harmful to marginalized groups because it was created to uphold oppressive systems is when there will actually be progress. Sticking your head in the sand and saying “they aren’t with us!” Or just being silent is siding with those who want to uphold oppressive systems.",
">\n\nGOP obsession with Drag Shows is insane. These people are out of their minds. This is not normal.",
">\n\nAlmost as if Republicans can't win on policy so they need to whip up culture wars and identity politics to get the fringes.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what they’re doing. Look at the GOP in the house. Absolutely nothing has been said or done to solve the “problems” the Dems have done. Their wins this past election are from this nonsense. Completely useless.",
">\n\nAnd the sad thing is the anti trans stuff hasn't worked at all - it's only caused their party to be a shell of itself, clinging to the MAGA caucus in the House.",
">\n\nWorked for DeSantis. Look at his re-election numbers",
">\n\nGreat use of money /s",
">\n\nWell they already arrested people who voted legally. Time to do more culture war noise",
">\n\nah, the pressing matters. ....",
">\n\nGlitter is a big issue! Stuff gets everywhere!",
">\n\nCraft herpes",
">\n\nCan someone please explain to me how an event advertised as 18+, where minors could only attend with explicit parental consent, where the venue sent out an email to ticketholders telling them exactly what the performance entails as a further confirmation that attendees are informed about what they're going to see ahead of time, is falling afoul of some sort of law?",
">\n\nFalse reports.\nWe have drag shows every week where I live, if they don't know you then you get carded and if you're not 18 you're out, period. No exceptions. The idea that people are smuggling their kids into alcohol-serving establishments just to show them drag queens' private parts is a fevered conservative fantasy that they claim is happening all of the time without any actual evidence or proof (as is their custom).",
">\n\nAssuming all of that is also true of the drag show here, are there any actual criminal charges that would stick? DeSantis doesn’t want to go to his base after however much time he’s spent demonizing the LGBT agenda and say there are no grounds to arrest anyone, but he just had people arrested for the crime of voting without knowing they weren’t eligible and all their charges are being dropped. If the people working at the drag show were as strict about age limits as you described, what happens?",
">\n\nI'll say this again. Not once in my life has a gay person, or a drag queen knocked on my door in the middle of the weekend to preach at me.\nI've been at my current place about 2 and half years and I've had 3 people knock on my door asking me if I wanna join a church.\nI lived in Hialeah Florida. One of the most conservative places in the country. And you'd see church people dressed in suits, ties and Sunday best going around the neighborhood in packs going around every house in foot. They'd knock on doors for whole damn blocks.\nAnd the thing is, it's not just the weekends you'd see these mofos roaming around at 11 am on a Thursday. And all ages too kids, teens, middle age and older people. Like i don't know if these people even had jobs",
">\n\ndoor to door preaching is their job.",
">\n\nBut who pays them? The pastor?",
">\n\nSome churches take tithe money and use it to fund their missionaries.",
">\n\nFascists believe that their opponents will never inflict upon them one one-hundredth of the violence that they regularly inflict upon the marginalized.\nThat needs to change.",
">\n\nAgreed. If a man in a dress reading Green Eggs and Ham to kids gets these people all ruffled I imagine they'd be pretty upset about the literal grooming/rape going on in the churches...\nIf they really were worried about kids they'd be more worried about the people singing Amazing Grace than the people singing Cher.",
">\n\nThis from the free speech / don’t tread on me crowd.. too bad irony is dead.",
">\n\nFree speech as long as you worship Jesus the right way. F everyone else according to them.",
">\n\nWhen will conservatives end their war on Christmas?",
">\n\nThis will definitely improve the situation in Florida with home owners insurance crisis.",
">\n\nWhy the hell are people not allowed to wear what they want and put on shows? If they obey the public decency laws they should be able to wear whatever the hell they want to. More big government bullshit from the party of small government.",
">\n\nThis is the same bunch of hypocrites that cry about “cancel culture”",
">\n\nI remember when I was a kid watching Bugs Bunny dressed as a sexy woman flirting with Elmer Fudd. That shit was on tv in the '40's. \nWhat an incredible waste of money.",
">\n\nHow many of us used to watch Jessie and James crossdressing all the time?",
">\n\nWow. DeSantis sure has a hard on for drag queens.",
">\n\n\"It should be up to the parents when they allow their children to learn about sexual orientation and identity!\"\n\"No, not like that\"",
">\n\nIt’s a good thing everything else in Florida is well taken care of so they can focus on stuff like this.",
">\n\ncan I get a round of applause again for my state’s Governor? Look at him go, he’s out there fighting the things that are really going to help me and my family… affordable housing, accessible/affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, quality education… oh… my bad… he’s not doing any of that… he’s out daydreaming about drag queens.",
">\n\nOh no the man in the dress read a book to some kids, better get the FBI over here. Fucking lunatic, right-wing, shoe-sized IQ motherfuckers.",
">\n\nWhat a literal dumbass",
">\n\nWhat a waste of time this ass hat has for culture",
">\n\nWaste money, patience and people to \"own the libs\" and how all the dumb ass conservatives cheer it on until they go: \"Wait, why are people dying?\"",
">\n\nMaybe the State should investigate the results of DeathSantis's malicious Covid policies instead?",
">\n\nCan this man focus on actual issues like the excessive amount of money I’m paying just to have my house and property insured….",
">\n\nThe only time \"drag show\" goes through my mind is when I see posts from right wing media. If right wing media could stop shoving the 'woke agenda' in my face that would be great thanks",
">\n\nif they're going after drag they should deff investigate ol' rudy and trumpy",
">\n\nI have to live in this disgusting state\nTrying my best to get back up north.",
">\n\nI left in April, and will never go back.",
">\n\nHalf of the elderly in his state are about to get kicked off medicare. He has problems and drag queens aren't one of them.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi.\nThey need to investigate Evangelical priests not drag shows.",
">\n\nRidiculous. Makes me want to visit Florida in a dress and heals and a big wig just to rile folks up.",
">\n\nNot anything to help working middle class families, all the gop care about is culture war bs. Fucking pathetic, even more pathetic are the dumbasses that voted for this twat.",
">\n\nSomething something small government",
">\n\nYour tax dollars at work……",
">\n\nDoes his admin do anything remotely beneficial for the state? Like are there examples of funding bills or like...I dunno...changes that benefit people? Honestly curious.",
">\n\nThere are easier ways to find out what goes on in drag shows, like actually going to one and seeing for yourself.",
">\n\nIf they were just a tad less hateful, they'd be rejected by their churches and would be seen as having let the devil take over their minds. That's how these people think.",
">\n\nI live in Floriduh and just saw a Floriduh state flag with Ron's head on it and it said Keep Florida Free. I find that contradictory to what he is doing. I guess it is a free state if you share conservative ideals. Otherwise, forget it.",
">\n\nMaybe he should start with his wife",
">\n\nRight? Like not to be an ass, but when I saw the headline and pic I legitimately thought he was standing next to a drag queen.",
">\n\nThe FL GOP Qanon is at it again. Wasting taxpsyers' dollars.",
">\n\nTake the limited budget away from investigators with a specific ask (that is, by its nature, not illegal) to ensure those same resources can’t investigate you. I would take a bet that DeSantis and his grifting cronies have been getting some sweet kickback money into their pockets while fruitless endeavors like this are pursued. It’s classic legerdemain.",
">\n\n\"Small\" government",
">\n\nRon DeSantis is Roman Catholic. The Pope in full garb would win most Drag Queen events.",
">\n\nRepublicans rely on wedge issues to win because they can’t win in policy issues. Their constituents are primarily fear- and hate-based, so they cater to those fears and hatred.",
">\n\n“We want to get government out of regulating your lives and we want to control your children down to what kind of shows they watch .”\nYou can’t have Republicans anymore without massive hypocrisy.",
">\n\nI think they may find that some drag queens are safer to leave around children than most Republicans.",
">\n\nWhy does Desantis look like the stereotypical Hallmark movie villain that wants to bulldoze a block of apartments and old times stores to build some massive penis statue or something. (Idk haven’t watched one of those in years)",
">\n\nI’m actually becoming less and less afraid of him being able to win 2024. Midterms showed suburbia is sick of culture wars bullshit and that is all DeSantis has.",
">\n\nIsn't it great that the state of Florida has no actual problems, is not sinking underwater, has virtually no crime or poverty, and the governor can focus on other people's entertainment choices?",
">\n\nThis guy is so full of shit. He claims to want’s to “protect the parents right to choose” what their kids are exposed to. As a parent, if I choose to take my child to a drag show then it’s my choice. People like this just want to force their value system on others.",
">\n\nI lived in Florida during COVID. Half the people there can’t pay their bills because COL rising so rapidly but this moron is dicking around trying to appeal to jackasses while he’s got the least affordable state and some of the worst education in the country.",
">\n\nAgain, that’s fine if they also investigate Hooters and Pro Sports games where people dress and dance suggestively. Which, btw, Drag story hour doesn’t do - but that’s not the point. Stirring the pot against LGBTQ people is the point.",
">\n\nDeSantis is using the power of the Florida government to investigate a group of people for WHO THEY ARE. Not for any suspected crime, criminal conspiracy or any real threat to public safety. \nApply this to Blacks or Jews or any minority and suddenly you see where this path can lead.",
">\n\nI bet no word on investigations of gun shows to see if they adhere to the law.",
">\n\nYeah, you know, something constructive. Nope. It’s Death Santis.",
">\n\nDeSantis - putting the F(ascist) in Florida Man.",
">\n\nDeSantis just opened himself up to a major lawsuit.\nRepublicans enjoy deflecting attention from themselves by inventing a fictitious Boogeyman to hate.\nWhen this investigation yields nothing of substance the floodgates of lawsuits will open up.\nBut what does he care, it’s the Florida taxpayers who will flip the bill, not him.",
">\n\nIf they are looking for adults showing sexualized content to children, they are much more likely to find it at Hooters.",
">\n\nPlease tell me there’s a Drag Queen named Rhonda Santis.",
">\n\nReally important stuff here. All while we could be addressing healthcare costs, student loan costs, housing costs…\nBut yeah, let’s focus on spreading more dangerous hatred towards a marginalized community.",
">\n\nComplete waste of taxpayer money A political witch hunt. It’s a shame we actually have domestic terrorists holding public office",
">\n\nFriggin stop already. Stop pandering to a bunch of folks that have 0 interest in anything but self. \n Drag Queens, LGBT people aren't hurting anyone. Leave them alone. It matters not whether you agree with them. It is their life to live.",
">\n\nTo put this in perspective - if Florida was using the same standard for “explicitness” on heterosexuals then maternity stores would be considered lewd and in appropriate.",
">\n\nHell any NFL or NBA game would be illegal for children to attend. The cheerleaders and dancers wear more provocative clothing and have more sexual choreography than any drag show I’ve ever been to.",
">\n\nThis same drag show has been touring across the US every Christmas for 8 years. Never been any complaints about it until this toadstool oozed up from the Florida swamps.",
">\n\nMe thinks DeSantis protests too much",
">\n\nStandard wedge issue tactic:\n- Pick a powerless minority\n- Blame them for something they are not doing\n- Feature it in your fundraisers.",
">\n\nFascist and Minority Hater, Ron DeSantis… FIFY",
">\n\nThis guy has no real policy. It's all reactionary white boy shit.",
">\n\nI hear Covid is surging in Florida.",
">\n\nIs that a drag queen behind him? Guess he's doing his own field work.",
">\n\nAs a Floridian, Ron can choke on a turd. I am a heterosexual male and I LOVE RuPaul’s Drag Race and would love to go watch a show with my wife and daughter!",
">\n\nI would be so pissed my tax dollars were paying for this.",
">\n\nWhat a clown…",
">\n\nWGAS! DeathSantis is a total jerk!",
">\n\nHow does this benefit taxpayers?",
">\n\nNazi DeSantis.",
">\n\nFucking Nazi loser.",
">\n\nThe biggest threat to children at a drag show is that a religious fanatic might show up armed to “save the children.”",
">\n\nFuckers will do anything to waste tax payers money.",
">\n\nHe's threatening to investigate parents via Child Protective Services if they allow their children into the show (children = 17 1/2 yr olds). Thought Florida was The Freedom State. PARENTS, in the Freedom State, don't have to worry about the Government telling them how to raise their children! Can't tell them to mask the kids in a public school, can't tell parents to vax the kids in order to attend public school, but Government CAN say a parent CANNOT decide what their children can attend at Christmas!\nDeSantis has his eye on the White House.",
">\n\nThey have inflation under such good control that they have time to focus on low hanging fruit like drag shows. /s",
">\n\nWhat, like the one going on right behind him?",
">\n\nCame here to ensure someone had mentioned this in the comments…faith in Reddit restored!",
">\n\nKeeping Americans safe from drag queens. What a brave man. /s",
">\n\nTrump is so drag…this guy wants to be him so bad",
">\n\nIf any state power were trying to tell Christian parents how they can raise their children, what would DeSantis have to say about that?",
">\n\nWhere was the outrage when Corporal Klinger did it on MASH?",
">\n\nGreat point!",
">\n\nHe lives in Florida, governs it in fact, and is just now becoming aware of Fantasy Fest in Key West?",
">\n\nI remember when Jeb Bush stated that he was going to “clean up Key West and make it more family friendly”. He got conched on the head for that.",
">\n\nWhat is his goal here? Turn the whole state into Branson Missouri?",
">\n\nHe thinks he’s going to be president. Charlie Crist made him look like a 6-year-old on the debate stage. I can’t wait until the whole nation sees what a foolish little boy he is.",
">\n\nMeanwhile 78 verified cases of child sex trafficking under DeSantis run care homes in Florida.",
">\n\nStreisand Effect...Drag shows are getting so much publicity...people that never would have even thought to attend one are now going to consider it. Even if 1% of the general public decides to check one out, that's probably going to triple their demand.\nWay to go, DeSantis!",
">\n\nWe have had Christmas drag entertainment made for families in the UK for decades. Decades. They’re called pantomimes and having someone perform in drag is seen as being absolutely integral; for reasons I’ve never been able to fathom. I have never heard any complaints.",
">\n\nI watched Monty Python growing up and I came out OK",
">\n\nGuess there are no other pressing issues in Florida? Must be nice.",
">\n\nI guess he really hates competition.",
">\n\nIt's likely the drag performances will be entirely illegal in some parts of this country by the end of this decade with the way things are looking now. Baptist snowflakes simply can't handle it.",
">\n\nYeah but we will still be able to have them in the camps, right? /s",
">\n\nCan someone explain what law was broken that is forcing the governor to start an investigation?",
">\n\nThey are concerned for the children! /s",
">\n\nNo children have ever been. Harmed from a drag show.",
">\n\nBut school shootings are OK?",
">\n\nTo the typical Republican, being gay is in fact worse than being a school shooter.",
">\n\nde santis is a secret cross dresser named rhonda santis",
">\n\nWhy are these people so stupid?",
">\n\nMurica and Jebus!!!"
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