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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why."
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Hey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\""
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Their bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship..."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?"
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The west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from.
Air defense is a half measure.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24"
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Ukraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure."
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Christ, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP.
Hopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.
This shit is nauseating.
All I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)"
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Slava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine."
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So is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime."
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This has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before."
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Hello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.
Can someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot."
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I'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?"
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I wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them."
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Any info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?
Its all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.
To my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.
Thats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.
Does that makes sense?
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦"
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I can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?"
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Without more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet."
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So they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources."
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Does anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?"
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... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?
I feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)"
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Yeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.
I mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P"
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309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought.",
">\n\nNever underestimate biolab-bred genetically engineered birdmen!"
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It's a Russian propaganda account by the way. I wouldn't link it because scrolling includes idiocy such as Ukrainian Bakhmut soldiers being photoshopped into their pictures and MRNA vaccine "skepticism".
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought.",
">\n\nNever underestimate biolab-bred genetically engineered birdmen!",
">\n\nFuck Russia!"
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So that announcement that was coming after P's meeting with Lukashenko....did that not happen because Lukashenko refused to capitulate? Spicy if so!
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought.",
">\n\nNever underestimate biolab-bred genetically engineered birdmen!",
">\n\nFuck Russia!",
">\n\nIt's a Russian propaganda account by the way. I wouldn't link it because scrolling includes idiocy such as Ukrainian Bakhmut soldiers being photoshopped into their pictures and MRNA vaccine \"skepticism\"."
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Remember the Russian military claimed it shot down the drone that hit Engels?
They're now saying "whoops, it was a Russian su-27, oh, and the pilot's dead".
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought.",
">\n\nNever underestimate biolab-bred genetically engineered birdmen!",
">\n\nFuck Russia!",
">\n\nIt's a Russian propaganda account by the way. I wouldn't link it because scrolling includes idiocy such as Ukrainian Bakhmut soldiers being photoshopped into their pictures and MRNA vaccine \"skepticism\".",
">\n\nSo that announcement that was coming after P's meeting with Lukashenko....did that not happen because Lukashenko refused to capitulate? Spicy if so!"
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought.",
">\n\nNever underestimate biolab-bred genetically engineered birdmen!",
">\n\nFuck Russia!",
">\n\nIt's a Russian propaganda account by the way. I wouldn't link it because scrolling includes idiocy such as Ukrainian Bakhmut soldiers being photoshopped into their pictures and MRNA vaccine \"skepticism\".",
">\n\nSo that announcement that was coming after P's meeting with Lukashenko....did that not happen because Lukashenko refused to capitulate? Spicy if so!",
">\n\nRemember the Russian military claimed it shot down the drone that hit Engels?\nThey're now saying \"whoops, it was a Russian su-27, oh, and the pilot's dead\"."
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">\n\nPrevious post\nDay 309 of my updates from Kharkiv.\nThe long awaited next big missile strike finally happened and it really wasn’t anything special, the number of missiles that was expected was vastly overblown, as it wasn’t the 120+ missiles that everyone was talking about, but only 69 and some Shaheds along with them. It doesn’t seem that it did too much damage to our infrastructure, the problems with electricity are not widespread right now, and some blackouts are not due to the missile strike, but because some cities turned off electricity as preventive measures to lessen any possible damage. \nThough I don’t think it’s the end of missile strikes for today yet, as just recently there was a second missile strike aimed at Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure, and apparently it wasn’t done by an S-300 missile, but a cruise missile, which they usually do not use on Kharkiv, because they can use the cheaper and more abundant S-300 missiles for it. Some people reported electricity being cut after that missile strike, but for us it’s stable for now. We had it the entire day with basically no interruptions despite the missile strike, though it did flicker for a couple of seconds right after the first missiles landed in Kharkiv in the morning.\nThey have been trying to destroy Kharkiv’s energy infrastructure starting from yesterday evening, when they launched 13 Shaheds at us, thankfully 11 of them were intercepted and it doesn’t look like the rest did any significant damage. Then they fired 4 S-300 missiles at us in the morning, which didn’t do much, and one of the missiles landed in a swamp, where it belongs. They did a third strike at our infrastructure about an hour or so ago, sadly they killed 1 civilian and injured 2 more with it, fucking terrorist scum.\nSome good news is that while they were firing missiles at us the whole morning our forces didn’t sit idly, Russians reported that one of their S-300 launchers was destroyed by our strike right in the middle of the missile attack. There were also a bunch of other attacks on Russian positions on their side of the border, as well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.",
">\n\n\nas well as another strike on Engels airbase, though I’m pretty sure this time they did actually manage to intercept our drone.\n\nReports emerging that russia shot down one of their own aircraft, killing the pilot.",
">\n\nVery bright was that sword when it was made whole again; the light of the sun shone redly in it, and the light of the moon shone cold, its edge was hard and keen. And Aragorn gave it a new name and called it Andúril, Flame of the West",
">\n\nThat's nowhere near the 120+ as reported earlier?",
">\n\nArestovych clarified that the total capacity of detected missile carriers (planes and warships) added up to 120, but they're either running low or that many missiles malfunctioned.",
">\n\nMass attack has begun, first missiles enter Sumy region :(( Gonna charge my phones and fill the bath.\nedit: also Kharkiv, Kyiv and Poltava regions",
">\n\nGodspeed stay safe and get through this.",
">\n\nI wonder what the latest estimates of Russias missile stockpile is. It's been a week or 2 since I saw a count pop up.",
">\n\nTheir missile production rate is likely the number that matters. \nThey would not take the stockpile to zero before an army was enroute to Moscow.",
">\n\nElectricity is very cheap these days. Wind and hydroelectric are pushing down prices to a fraction of the cost. Barely any natural gas is being used for electricity production December is hotter than usual. Natural gas reserves are averaging around 83% across Europe, only 10% drop since peak value. Futures gas prices were already projected to drop below prewar levels in 2023 but it seems it will go faster than expected. Great news overall.",
">\n\nBesides the higher temperatures. Might be good for things on this front but something we still have to work on.",
">\n\nToo many things to work on i would say. I just hope we learn the appropiate lessons from all of this.",
">\n\nthere were comments about an hour ago about, hopefully people had time to get to safety .",
">\n\nFinally.\nI've been stumped why these haven't been in discussion long before Abrams. Should have been a focus since the start.",
">\n\nMy take is now that the Patriot missile decision has settled in and Russia is doing nothing we can start ramping up to the next level. Its all about planting seeds and making moves. \nIf we say bradleys can go than they will take a few months to move. That gives us March or April which is great for them.",
">\n\nThis war has been excellent for anti corruption efforts at least if you want a silver lining. More anti-corruption regulations and corrupt politicians have been rendered in Ukraine since Febuary than Zelensky's entire term preceding. Rooting out the blatant traitors and stoke nationalistic sentiment when existentially threatened with genocide.",
">\n\nThe war has made it easier to carry out these acts as now there is less resistance. Before the war, the pro Russia elements, politicians, media, businessmen, churches etc had power, propanganda, influence behind them so it wasn't easy to root them out and they were treated lightly and with kid gloves. Now those gloves are off. \nIf you are still pro Russia now and actively doing something about it, then you have only yourself to blame.",
">\n\nNew air alert\nStarting from 5:33am, the air alert spread from the southern regions of Ukraine.\nAs of 06:04, the alarm covered almost all regions, except for the western ones.\nSouth reported that the enemy had put 2 surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 calibers at readiness.",
">\n\nI look forward to the day one of these blows while launching and takes a ship with it.",
">\n\nGreat that western leadership gets to experience this stuff first hand, maybe it might lead to accelerated decisions on military and other aid.\nNothing like having your life at risk to understand why Ukrainian lives should be better protected and the army supported.",
">\n\nWow, I don’t know shit about stingers etc. But do I see it right, this was a split second decision from noticing the missile to firing the stinger?",
">\n\nRussia could have been a part of the Artemis Accords and put its resources and power toward creation and discovery instead of destruction. \nWe could have been building castles on the moon together. But instead Putin is leading us all to ruin and despair.\nWhat a tyrant. 😵",
">\n\nWhy would you want castles on the moon? What are they to defend against... no, you want moon palaces",
">\n\n\nWhat are they to defend against...\n\nMoon bears.",
">\n\nBetter than having to deal with the inter-galactic wizard alliance.",
">\n\nThe Russians launched guided missiles in several waves\nThe head of Mykolayiv OVA Vitaly Kim reminds Ukrainians that it is absolutely impermissible to record arrivals.\n\n\"I would like to remind you that the missiles are controlled in several queues - this means that it is absolutely forbidden to film the arrivals. Today, the Armed Forces will set a new record for shooting down,\" the message reads.\n\nThe Ministry of Internal Affairs also appealed to Ukrainians. [photo of forbidden activities showing reminders]\nAs of 8am, an air alert has been declared in all regions of Ukraine, except temporarily occupied Crimea.\nSeveral missiles have already been shot down by air defense forces.\nOleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the President's Office, reports that more than 100 missiles are expected in several waves.",
">\n\nAt 0630:\nMissile danger threatens southern Ukraine, according to Operational Command South*, after the announcement of a large-scale air alert in Ukraine.\n\n\"Now a missile threat has been declared in the south of Ukraine. The activity of strategic aviation has been recorded.\"\n\nIn addition, the enemy put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. Readiness to launch 16 Calibers.\nSubsequently, the Operational Command South updated the information, informing about the readiness of the enemy to launch 20 Calibers.",
">\n\nLooks good. Hoping to 90+% success rate for Ukrainian air defence!",
">\n\nZero. Zero. Zero. Zero...",
">\n\nIts like he is trying to fuck the floor",
">\n\nThe audacity of that reporter to suggest that Italy must do something to appease Russia because they must miss the tourists.\nNice verbal beat down by the PM",
">\n\nThis is awesome, necessary, and a sign of a nation that recognizes the humanity and struggle in one another.\nThey're enduring this together.",
">\n\nAnother one? I'm having a hard time keeping track, so many of Putin's men keep dying suddenly. \n\"Second Russian Defense Sector Bigwig Dies in Two Days.\"\n\nThe former army general previously commanded Russia’s ground troops, and died just two days after Vladimir Putin abruptly canceled a planned visit.",
">\n\nAnother one~\nAnother one~",
">\n\nAnother one bites the dust",
">\n\nAir defense doing!",
">\n\nAir Force: cruise missiles incoming [not drones] from different directions. \n\n\"December 29. Massive missile attack. In addition, there is a high activity of tactical aviation of the occupiers. The work of anti-aircraft defense is possible throughout the entire territory of the state.”\n\n... channels report that 13 enemy strategic bombers of the \"TU\" type, which are carriers of cruise missiles, are currently in the air.",
">\n\nReally hope some of the bombers are shot down and/or crash on their own and/or have missiles explode on board...",
">\n\nukraine can expect this kind of barrages once per 2/3weeks otherwise they would run out of missless, just give them some weapons so they can have higher percentage of destroyed missles",
">\n\n... Not one of those were a pushup",
">\n\nI think he might have just gotten horned up and started humping the floor",
">\n\nIf this hotel contains the quarters of active-duty officers, it's a legitimate military target. Just putting this out there.",
">\n\nI'll put $1,000 down it had either officers, FSB, Kadyrovites, or a military related goon.\nNo mobiks though, they're out in the shed.",
">\n\nWhat a great article. Thank you for sharing.",
">\n\nEvery Russian man should do it.\nIt's a lesser sentence than deserting or evading conscription.\nThen again they'll probably go with the fine in most cases, and then not pay the poor fucker to garnish his wages when conscripted.",
">\n\nGet thrown in prison, get sent to the Frontline anyway as Prisoner cannon-fodder.",
">\n\nThat is an insane fucking shot, the cheers are warranted",
">\n\nThe resistance of Bakhmut is one of the unsung victories of this war so far. I am absolutely stunned by the resilience and strategic preparation of the UAF",
">\n\nZelensky literally went in front of US congress and talked about it and gave them a flag from it's defenders, it's definitly not \"unsung\"(those major unsung victories imo still go to some of the troops stopping the advance east of kyiv in the early days of the war as well as the defense of Mykolaiv in the south)",
">\n\nAs an American myself I only hope that after the war, assuming a UA victory, Zelensky didn't have to make too many promises he can't afford to break. I am cheering for a Ukraine that gets to forge its own destiny and build its own economy without having to choke down too many opportunists post war hell bent on profiting from the rebuild.",
">\n\nWhat a rebuild it could be-no more Soviet era tower blocks if you don’t want them.",
">\n\nOr lean into it. Make Ukraine war proof (as much as is possible) harden every building and piece of infrastructure, repurpose the economy as the war forge of Europe if that's what the people want over aesthetics. It doesn't matter to me either way so long as Ukraine chose it themselves without duress or manipulation.",
">\n\nIf we want Ukraine to be war-proof, we let them into NATO. Notice Russia never tries to invade actual NATO countries, it's always the neighbors that aren't in NATO.",
">\n\nExplosions in Kyiv, but air defense working\nUpdate: Klitschko confirms air defense in the first wave",
">\n\nReally hope air defenses keep going strong !",
">\n\nSometimes sounds of explosions come from the air, meaning AD work. But there's no definite way to distinguish",
">\n\nIt's interesting that Yesterday's much larger barrage appeared to have such little success (with what seems to be a lot of malfunctions), so they followed it up with a much smaller drone attack.\nIs there any logic to this? Maybe probing for weaknesses?",
">\n\nIt was reported that upon analysis of the destroyed missiles they were only manufactured hastily w/i the past year. Militaries normally will fire their oldest munitions first, and that means that not only are the Russians running low on their inventories, but their product is seeing huge misfires.",
">\n\nAs usual - command ran away sending additional troops to be safe.",
">\n\nHoly crap, big losses for the Russians on today’s report. It breaks the mind trying to comprehend how the Russian people can allow this lunacy to continue.",
">\n\nMost of them don’t know what happens in Ukraine nor the losses suffered.",
">\n\nThey don't care as long as it doesn't affect them personally. Putin has calculated that the war will remain popular with ethnic, white Russians (those living around Moscow and St. Petersburg) as long as mobilization affects ethnic minorities only. If the people around Moscow or St. Petersburg remain largely unaffected or apathetic, then Putin's chances of being reassigned to a window seat are slim to none.",
">\n\nBudanov says “we're stuck; neither side can progress.” \n He notes Russia still on defense and Russian losses; but that Ukraine awaits new weapons before undertaking a new offensive.",
">\n\nFull timeline of arrivals\nLatest: 9:13 Arrivals in Kharkiv\nOn the morning of Thursday, December 29, an air alert was announced in all regions. As reported by the operational command South, at 05:33 an air alert was announced in the southern regions. Later, anxiety spread to all areas.\nOK South reported that the Russians put two surface missile carriers on combat duty in the Black Sea. 16 \"Caliber\" are ready for launch. In addition, the activity of strategic aviation is observed.\nAccording to the speaker of the Odessa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, another submarine has been added to the launch vehicles in the Black Sea. This is another plus four Caliber.\n08:00 The head of the Nikolaev OVA, Vitaly Kim, reports on the first launches of Russian missiles, they fly in the direction of Sumy.\n08:04 OVA head Aleksey Kuleba warns about the threat of rocket attack on the Kyiv region.\nAleksey Arestovich, adviser to the President's Office, reports that Russia plans to launch more than 100 missiles on December 29 in several waves. \"The approach of the first to Kyiv - approximately 0815, Cities east of Kyiv, arrivals may be earlier. Air defense begins work on missiles.\" \n8:30 Sounds of explosions are heard in Kyiv and the region. According to preliminary information, air defense is working.\nIt is officially reported that the Air Defense Forces of Ukraine are working in Kyiv.\n8:36 Odesa OVA, Sergei Bratchuk, said that subdivisions of OK Severhad successfully shot down one of the missiles over the Sumy region.\nThey also write about the sounds of explosions in the Odessa region. Previously, the air defense system also worked.\n08:46 Missiles are fixed over the Zhytomyr region. \"Missiles over the Zhytomyr region have been detected. Air defense is working. Stay in cover!\" - writes the head of the Zhytomyr OVA Vitaly Bunechko.\n08:52 Lviv region is a threat of a missile attack, according to the head of the UVA Kozitsky.\n08:53 Vitaly Kim reported that over the sea in the Nikolaev region, air defense forces shot down 5 enemy missiles.\n08:56 Air defense works in the Poltava region, said the head of the OVA Lunin.\n09:05 A series of loud explosions in Kyiv. The KGVA reports that air defense is working.\n09:09 Debris of a downed rocket damaged a private building in the Darnytskyi district and a car parked nearby. [Kyiv]\nLater, the mayor of Kyiv, Vitali Klitschko, confirmed the information about the explosions in Kyiv.\n09:13 There are arrivals in Kharkiv, the mayor of the city of Terekhov reports, “Russia attacks Kharkiv from the air”\n9:30, it is known that two private houses in the Darnytskyi district were damaged by debris from downed rockets. An industrial enterprise in the Goloseevsky district and a playground in the Pechersky district were also damaged\n09:57 According to preliminary information, it is known about two victims in the Darnytsia region. They were provided with first aid, according to the KGVA. [Kyiv]",
">\n\nOperator Starsky doing a livestream now",
">\n\nGood shout! Thank you!",
">\n\nThey really need to ban tobacco in Russia.",
">\n\nOh, I don't know. \"Being on fire\" is one of the only Russian attributes I enjoy at the moment.",
">\n\nAre they using up all of their missiles just to rob Ukraine of a happy new year? That is just so Russian a thing to do.",
">\n\nUkraine’s most powerful ally is Russia.\nEdit: preemptive /s for the blockheads",
">\n\nThe number one supplier of military equipment to Ukraine since this war began.",
">\n\nSo grateful",
">\n\nGive them the M1s we have in storage while we are at it and let's do 73 Eastings all over again.",
">\n\nFrom an interview w a Ukrainian fighter pilot:\nWhat is the most lacking in our military aviation? People, equipment, or in the [aviation] complex?\n\nThe first thing we need is to increase the range that our radar and sighting systems can see. The second is air-to-air guided vehicles with a much longer range than we currently have. So we really need F-16s that can support our needs in that.\n\n\n^(Something else he points out is how Putin didn’t decree/declare war, how he was sneeky, duplicitous. It reminded me of how Americans found the surprise attack on Dec 7, 1941 to be the most shameful, ignominious, dishonorable act in history. Not because of cruelty. Because it’s dishonorable to not officially wage war. To attack from behind. Roosevelt declared it “the day that will live in infamy” bc it was seen as downright evil and abdication of all honor to surprise attack. Thats what Russia did. And the population doesn’t even know they’re at war. Regardless, they deserve generations of shame for both the manner in which they cowardly failed to declare war, and of course their despicable, satanic war crimes.)",
">\n\nI’m going to enjoy watching russian propagandists melt down over this, as if they still have the right to the free and sovereign territory of Ukraine",
">\n\nThey should send the statue to Moscow via Missile service",
">\n\nIgla",
">\n\n\"IGLA\" acronym for \"I'm Gonna Launch At that\"",
">\n\n\"I'm Gonna Liquidate Another\"",
">\n\nToday was a massive strike but it was a weird one as well. The Russians used enough platforms that they should have been able to launch 120 missiles, which is why that number popped up in the earliest report. The previous Russian tactic had been to launch the maximum number allowed by the platforms they are using. \nInstead, only about 70 were launched. Either ~40% of the missiles were defective, or Russia didn’t have enough missiles to launch a maximum launch with the platforms they were using. Maybe they are trying to draw out Ukrainian anti-air to mark it for later destruction, but a maximum barrage would have done the same thing. It is just a weird deviation from the usual tactics. Either way, whether the missiles were defective or they didn’t have enough for a maximum barrage, it signals Russia is having difficulties with its missile stock.",
">\n\nRussia is down to single digit percentages for some of its remaining stock. Like the Russian offensive around Bakhmut, the Russian missile barrages are almost spent.",
">\n\nConclude discussing and commence sending.",
">\n\nI know very little about warfare and less about modern warfare so I apologize if this is a bad question. For AA systems why do they seem to be mostly missile based instead of artillery/flak based? Even if the missile are per unit a hundred times better than dumb rounds couldn't you thousands of them for the cost of one missile?",
">\n\nIts easier to intercept using a missile that course corrects. The way an AA missile works (in almost all types, with a few exceptions) is that it tracks onto the target, then points itself directly in the direction of the target as it gets near, then detonates by proximity, iow a few tens of feets away from the target. The explosion is shaped like a forwards expanding cone of shrapnel. \n \nThis way you have an expanding wall of shrapnel heading directly in the direction of the target. Its the easiest way to ensure a hit.\nEffectively this makes it possible for the missile to always ensure the explosion is facing onto the target regardless of how it approaches the target, as it can even do last minute course corrections to respond to evasive manouvers to point its head back onto the target.\n \nWith an AA shell, you'd need more accurate and constant target aquisition from the gun battery (which also puts it at risk of counterfire due to its radar emitting signals) and more advanced real-time calculation to ensure the shell ends up pointing in the direction of the target as it releases its explosive cone, and there's no chance of course correction other than having a constant release of shells.\n \nIts doable, and the ammunition is cheaper, but it poses higher risk to the shooters and takes more advanced equipment on the gun vehicle. Plus shells have trajectory limiting range more, while missiles do not while they still have course correction speed.",
">\n\nIFATDS on HIMARs makes them more point and click than ever",
">\n\nAnd despite destroying large parts of the city, all it did was boost British morale by making them angry.",
">\n\nHiroshima/Nagasaki are really the only combined example I can think of where the bombing of population centers had the desired effect.\nThe Battle of Britain obviously didn't knock them out of the war.\nGermany fought all the way to Berlin despite extensive strategic bombings, including fire bombings like Dresden.\nThe Japanese maintained readiness to repel an invasion, even after almost all of their major population centers were leveled in firebombing raids. It took atomic weapons to finally get them to the table.\nSimilarly, the bombing of North Vietnam and Laos didn't exactly lead to stunning victories either.\nThe broad point here is that bombing population centers never seems to succeed at forcing a population to surrender. Which means the only reason you'd continue doing it, is because you're a colossal, seeping, asshole.",
">\n\nJust throwing this out here, but after this huge missile attack is a great time to remind your representatives in government that you care about Ukraine and want to see them supported more. Politicians care when they know their voters care.",
">\n\nPutin: “Only three things could disrupt my plan to freeze Europe. The Americans would have to be greedy enough to export large amounts of LNG, the Germans would need to solve the engineering problems associated with receiving that LNG, and the globe would need to be warmer than the long term averages.”\nPutin’s cabinet of yes-men: “Another perfect plan sir.”",
">\n\nThe Germans put their new LNG ship terminals on line essentially as soon as their extremely optimistic sounding schedule said they would. They are amazingly precise at nearly everything.",
">\n\nAll according to keikaku",
">\n\nFrom 24.02.2022 to 29.12.2022 estimated Russian losses so far (change since previous):\nOver 2000 artillery destroyed.\n104560 (+790) Personnel\n3018 (+1) Tanks\n6047 (+10) Armored Personnel Vehicles\n2004 (+5) Artillery Systems\n423 (+5) MLRS\n212 (+0) Anti-aircraft Warfare Systems\n283 (+0) Aircraft\n267 (+0) Helicopters\n1717 (+10) UAV operational-tactical level\n653 (+0) Missiles\n16 (+0) Warships / Boats\n4675 (+15) Other vehicles\n179 (+0) Special Equipment \nRussians suffered the greatest losses (of the past day) at the Lyman and Bakhmut directions.",
">\n\n\n(+790) Personnel\n\nHighest in quite a while.",
">\n\nThat represents 1500-2000 casualties… wtf.",
">\n\nShe looks like Mercy from Overwatch to me. Regardless it’s a cool look.",
">\n\nMercy is cool! Healers are the best!",
">\n\nThey must have made that video before the Ukraine invasion, back when everyone still believed Russia was a world military power.",
">\n\nThe Wagner telegram also recently made a post claiming that the objective of their Bakhmut offensive is not necessarily about taking the city itself. Sounds like they know they can't win there and are preparing the excuses in advance so they can claim it wasn't a failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nWasn't the entire point of Bakhmut that that one guy who owns the mercenary company wants a big personal win? So he can position himself as a potential ruler of Russia.",
">\n\nIn the aforementioned post, they were claiming its about racking up massive Ukrainian losses, not necessarily taking the city of Bakhmut itself. Which makes no sense since they are the ones taking massive casualties as the ones attacking against highly fortified defenders. Hence my guess that they are shifting the goalposts so they can claim Bakhmut wasn't a Wagner failure when they eventually retreat.",
">\n\nJust a summary of today missile attack.\n24 Kalibrs\n48 ALCMs - Kh-55 and Kh-101s\n6 Kh-22\nAt least 4 Kh-31 anti radar missiles\nAt least 20 S-300\n20 Shahed drones\nWe have confirmation of 14 electrical infrastructure hits, 1 apartment building, 1 house and 1 kids playground. \nThe house was hit with Kh-55, which didn't detonate, most probably with inert warhead simulator.\nFrom videos I counted 10 Kh-55s. So at most 38 Kh-101s were used. That's a very low number I'm comparison to previous attacks.\nOnly a few important targets were hit - in Lviv, Odessa and Kiyv. Kharkiv was hit as well, however it looks like damage is less severe than it looked like.",
">\n\nWhat's the solution here? More and more air defense systems so the vast majority of missiles are shot down? Is it possible to reach a point where virtually all incoming missiles or drones are shot down with only the occasional one or two slipping through? Even during large attacks.",
">\n\nThe solution is to enable Ukraine offensively.\nThese attacks won't stop until Russia is out of missiles and drones. Nations like Iran will provide more. Air defense is necessary but not sufficient.\nThe answer is to give Ukraine the tools to push Russia out and inflict massive pain on their soldiers. That means longer range assets to hit their logistics still in Ukraine, IFVs/APCs/tanks to break Russia out where they've dug in. I'm still not sure why Bradleys, for example, haven't been discussed.\nUkraine needs to be able to end this war, not stall it.",
">\n\nAgree completely. Give them the tools to win decisively on the battlefield.",
">\n\nRU Command: Guys I've got a great idea. Really genius. You know how we've fired over 4000 missiles over this past 10 months. Let's make it 4120. That'll really make all the difference amiright?",
">\n\nIt’s worth noting that these outages are (in part) due to deliberate shutdowns as a protective measure. A good part of Odesa will likely see their power restored in the near-ish future.\nIt still sucks - but it could be worse.",
">\n\nWatching Russia literally turn into Nazis while they claim they are fighting Nazis is the greatest comedy in a century. Fucking morons.",
">\n\nI remember reading somewhere that someone said that the next fascists would fight in the name of anti-fascism. I'm not sure this was what they were getting at, but it is (morbidly) amusing nonetheless.",
">\n\nWe are all just living in the Spider-Man pointing meme everyday all day 24-7. God help us all.",
">\n\nAndrey Yusov, of the Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR), says that Russia and Iran have preliminary agreements on the supply of missiles, but Iran is ‘holding back’ because of the potential consequences. \n\n\"While, supply of Iranian drones continues, the ballistic missiles—which is a ‘dream weapon’ for Putin—but so far, he hasn’t been able get it.\nSerious work is underway on this issue, although it’s only preliminary agreements; but we know that they are there and now have to wait and see.\nAs we understand, not everyone in Iran is eager to help Putin—they realize how it can threaten the Iranian regime.\"",
">\n\nLuckily, Iran is so insecure they will not send that many missiles - they wanna keep a load of them in inventory. Russia (as far as I understand) gave them a really good deal on ~24 SU-35 fighters, selling below MSRP. These SU-35 were rejected by Egypt who called off the transfer after sanctions hit Russia.",
">\n\nI'm surprised Ukraine still has diplomatic relations with Belarus, given that Belarus has done nothing constructive besides telling Zelensky to surrender on Day 1 and continuing to host Russian forces from which to launch attacks on Ukrainian territory.",
">\n\nKarin önskar God Jul!",
">\n\nDefinitely not a tank but considering the videos of M113s close to the front, this would certainly be a massive improvement.",
">\n\nBradley’s are no joke, they have scored kills on T-72s. You should read up on battle of Eastings 73.",
">\n\nThat's odd. I'd heard all Kalibr-laden cruisers were withdrawn to the Sea of Azov.",
">\n\nBlack Sea is the reported launch site. I believe they were spotted two days ago in operation getting ready for this. \nWasn't aware of the Azov reports myself. \nOver the Caspian for the planes.",
">\n\nThe troop numbers were huge today..",
">\n\nSo were their death numbers.",
">\n\nLower percentage intercepted than previous strikes. However, it is a good sign that these barrages are coming in less frequently and with smaller numbers of missiles.",
">\n\nI think its because they fired all over Ukraine, including cities that doesnt have air defence.",
">\n\nPMC are prohibited in Russia, but when did law matter there?",
">\n\nThe Russian legal system is constructed so that 1) people who are not in power know what to do and 2) it only applies if you’re not immune. First, the tzar is immune to the law. Those below him are also immune - if they have his personal blessing.\nSome Russian fascist even argue that precisely because Russia has no legal tradition at all, it’s “innocent and not corrupted”.",
">\n\nIt also gives the Tsar an easy way to remove those who have fallen out of favor, as has happened over and over again. As soon as the Tsar removes his blessing, the disgraced courtier can be tried for all the laws that they broke. Putin’s done it several times to various oligarchs who appeared to be getting too involved in politics.",
">\n\nInsurance companies hate them! Learn this one simple trick.\nGreat opportunity to pull out insurance money as their economy is going to shit",
">\n\nthere's zero chance insurance companies are paying out on Russian arson. there are plenty of other reasons to torch a building in a dying economy",
">\n\nif they could get russia's own systems to think that it's own planes were Ukrainian, and attack them that would be a top tier cyber attack.",
">\n\nTo my fellow Americans;\nPlease this morning take five or ten minutes out of your day. Please yet again contact your representatives and discuss today's attack. Let them know that you still support Ukraine, but also that in light of recent attacks. You would like our government to increase aid given to Ukraine.\nUkraine has the capability to win this war, but it cannot be done with 14 HIMARS. They need planes, missiles with longer range, and more.\nGive Ukraine what they need to win this invasion expediently. France once gave us everything we needed to win our revolution. Pay it forward.",
">\n\nThis is important for any country. Contacting your gov representative makes a difference. \nOften, we hear politicians comment how they hear from their constituents, its offen in reference to this. \nSo more than just vent on reddit, this could just be the biggest contribution you make.",
">\n\nAs usual, when the west does something bad, \"the west is so bad!\".\nWhen another non-western country is bad, \"but the west is so bad!\"\nBasically, \"the west is so bad!\"",
">\n\nOne of the reasons why I stopped using Twitter was the amount of people calling putin \"anti colonialist\" and \"anti imperialist\". They never would acknowledge that all of Eastern russia is just a bunch of colonized native people or that this war along with a bunch of other wars russia has ever fought in its history have been to just expand their empire.",
">\n\nHoly shit! So his Dad was one of the liquidators.",
">\n\nI mean Rybar was moderate in the not calling for nukes sense. They are unabashedly pro-Russian and pro-war.",
">\n\nI denounce Putin, his fellow warmongers (politicians and citizens alike), and all those who exert themselves to change the state of the world for the worse. The world could be so much better if we all tried to co-exist in harmony, but these short-sighted, selfish assholes will have none of it.",
">\n\nc-130 needs to comeback around and catch it right after firing",
">\n\nWhen people try to repeat the proven lie that “both sides are to blame” remind them of these murderous terrorist attacks.\nThere is a right side (Ukraine), and a wrong side (Russia). It is not a shade of gray. There is an absolute right and an absolute wrong.\nAnd Tucker Carlson and his pathetic, sycophants are beyond reprehensible.",
">\n\nWhat did this scumbag say now?",
">\n\nhe said the police finally has a lead on the person that keeps smearing a little bit of shit on his upper lip...",
">\n\nFuck Putin and his sponsors.\nGood luck Ukraine 🇺🇦 The civilized world is with you.",
">\n\nRussia is already isolated though. Cutting diplomatic relations would mostly just be symbolic gesture without any real benefit",
">\n\nSend in the bradleys.",
">\n\ntbh france and parisians dont really represent europe well in that matter",
">\n\nBradley’s are an interesting development… that’s like a tank right? Or some sort of APC with a turret?",
">\n\nThey are meant for scout roles and infantry support. They typically will have tow or hellfire missiles and should be good at shoot and scoots on armor. Basically ambush predators and would work well in exploitation phases but should be avoiding fighting main battletanks as much as possible. Just because they can kill one doesn't mean they should be used for doing so. But they are absolutely murderous against infatry.",
">\n\nThat last sentence sold it for me. Its good enough for waves of mobiks.",
">\n\nIs that a third strike on Engels?",
">\n\nI am not sure... It might be about the prior attacks.",
">\n\nHopefully most of them get shot down.",
">\n\nTo put in context, this is around 550 million dollars worth of missiles",
">\n\nThe efficiency of these terror attacks become worse every time they try. At some point they'll just become a pointless waste of limited Russian resources",
">\n\ndepends on how much air defence costs. But Ukraine gets ressuplied by 50 countries.",
">\n\nSame with Belgorod, probably dumb operators, I doubt it's coordinated sabotage (if they shot down their own missiles)",
">\n\nRussia trying to shoot down their own missiles due to incompetence sounds about right.",
">\n\nAccording to preliminary information, air defence forces destroyed 15 missiles over Kyiv, - city mayor Vitaliy Klychko.",
">\n\n120+ missiles against civilian infrastructure comes across as desperation to me. Putin can’t win militarily and the West has found it’s spine again, so his only hope is to beat the population down enough for them to pressure Zelensky to the peace table. \nFucking get the Ukrainians what they need so they can end this shit show for good.",
">\n\nit comes across as trying to erase a country from the world map to me. if the ukrainian businesses stop working and the ukrainian people get killed and have to flee then the ukrainian military will be weakened. lets hope this doesnt keep on because its bad.",
">\n\nFrom the Guardian live feed:\n\nRussian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is giving her weekly press briefing. So far she has said that once Ukraine was one of the richest republics of the Soviet Union, but that it has become one of the poorest countries in Europe. She has accused the US of treating Ukrainian people as expendable in the American confrontation with Russia. She has criticised Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, for participating in photo shoots and appearing around the world making speeches as part of a Washington PR campaign.\nShe said lately the US has been trying to present Ukraine as democracy fighters and now as peacemakers while pumping Kyiv full of weapons and Nato command structures amid the killing of children. “We can’t talk about the serious peace initiative of Kyiv and its western sponsors,” she said, as “they don’t have anything serious about them”.\nShe has gone on to list a series of human rights violations within Ukraine reported by the UN’s OHCHR, and said that the tally of abuse should not be counted from 24 February this year, when Russia launched its latest offensive on Ukraine, but should also take into account the previous eight years where she claims pro-Russian elements in the east of Ukraine were abused by the government in Kyiv.\nShe is now talking about disputes between the Russian and Ukrainian branches of the orthodox church, claiming “the Kyiv regime does not care about the feelings of millions of believers”.\n\nThe Pootin regime truly are comprised of absolute roasters when they come out with bullshit like this. Just a bunch of gangsters, bullies and nihilists, who play the victim, make shit up, and engage in mass whataboutery when called out on their actions. Nothing surprises me any more about what they say.",
">\n\nIt enrages me to read those blatant lies, and therefore I wish I wouldn’t. Can we just ignore all Kremlin war propaganda?",
">\n\nYou mean you don't already?\nThey have been on my 'read only for kicks and gigglels' list for decades already.\nWhen this whole disaster of a war is finally over, Russia is going to have great difficulty negotiating, as it has 0 credibility. I don't know what kind of guarantees will it take for the parties to even sit at the negotiating table seriously.",
">\n\nAfter today's strike, which achieved nothing, except wounding few people, damaging few houses across the country, disrupting utilities for few hours and destroying yet another playground in Kyiv, I still think that the russia is a terrorist organization, but more of a Hamburglar sort of terrorist, if you get my drift.",
">\n\nWouldn't be surprised if they intercepted their own missile",
">\n\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.\n— Erica Marsh (@ericareport)\n\nYeah. We know.\nThe US Presidential pardon power requires reform. Treason should not be a pardonable offense.",
">\n\nThe granter of a pardon should not benefit from the pardon.",
">\n\nAir defense shot down 21 missiles over Odesa region, but some missiles hit critical infrastructure\nUkraine is getting better and better at countering missiles holy shit.",
">\n\nAny idea if it's mostly Shaheds (technically also cruise missiles) or more advanced ones?",
">\n\nShaheds aren't counted in the 120+ missiles. These were ship and plane launched. \nRussia sent the Shaheds before the strikes for probing, and are apparently sending more now via Belarus.",
">\n\nSerial number for a Kh-101 missile that hit Ukraine today was from Autumn this year. Rocket didn't explode so quality is getting questionable. (may be knock on result of sanctions or just standard Russian QA)",
">\n\nManufacturing a faulty missile is doble damage. Resources invested and small or none damage done.",
">\n\nBit of a weird request for any Ukrainian speakers out there.\nI've been absolutely fascinated by this song. But can anyone out there translate this live version with the additional lyrics and the dancing bodybags?\nFor those wondering, the original lyrics are along the lines of \"Get up, Little Ivan. Don't run. Don't hide. The Cossacks are coming to get you.\"",
">\n\nStarting from 1:00 seems like new lyrics are:\nlady in red jacket:\n\"Look at that not only Vanki (little ivans) /\nWent to other motherland in the morning.\"\nLady in light green:\n\"Special Forces from Buryatia \nHave attacked a toilet seat.\"\nLady in dark green:\n\"And Armed forces from Yakutia/\nHave surrounded 3 wahsing machines.\"\nTogether:\n\"And marines from Bashkiria /\nHas mined dish cabinet.\"\netc.",
">\n\nUnleash the ~~Kraken~~ ATACAMS and lets end this one-way-street-missile-lobbing. What are you waiting for Biden?",
">\n\nThere is a production line making M31s. They will never run out. If Russians try to endure them until workers in Arkansas get tired of making M31s then Russians will fail that endurance test. \nATACMS are not being produced. Russia knows we (USA) will not deplete the inventory much. ATACMS are useful as a deterrent because they can do damage. In the current war they would have a built in \"light at the end of the tunnel\". \nRussia has already lost the war. We are just waiting for the Russians to accept it. Russians are stubborn and they will try to prove they are stubborn. \nIf the long range capability is important then Ukraine should build long range drones. There are also dozens of non-nuclear countries in Europe who can produce longer range systems. Adding a slow and gradually increasing production of new systems will be far more disturbing to Russians. \nIt does not matter if you do not care about Russian feelings. Russians feeling that they have lost is the end of the war.",
">\n\nRussia will ultimately lose the war in Ukraine.",
">\n\nImagine if Ukraine had the capability to swarm launch long range missiles or drones every time Russia did this, but instead of hitting civilian targets, they hit multiple military targets deep within Russia.\nRussia would likely cool it with the missiles if that happened. So uh, maybe we should give them that ability?",
">\n\nI'd flood Russian airspace with mylar balloons that will reflect radar and hide your loitering drone among them. Or just send more balloons so you drain their ADA of missiles.",
">\n\nAn interesting detail: the soldiers do not count 1..2..3.. before the mortar fires, but 300, 30, 3. Not sure why.",
">\n\nNice own-goal.\nRussia should keep doing that.",
">\n\nHey if they totally want to hurt Ukraine - they should pre-emptivly destroy their own bombers and the base.",
">\n\n\"Hah! We destroyed our bombers ourselves, so now you have nothing to shoot at! Take that! Putin remains a master strategist.\"",
">\n\nFingers crossed for Ukraine bagging a TU bomber and/or a cruise missile ship...",
">\n\nTheir bombers launch their missiles well inside Russian territory. Not sure if there is an air defense system in the world that can hit them at those ranges.",
">\n\nPutina throwing another hissy fit?",
">\n\nhe has been throwing a hissy fit since Feb 24",
">\n\nThe west needs to provide Ukraine with cruise and ballistic missiles so Ukraine can take out the sites these strikes launch from. \nAir defense is a half measure.",
">\n\nUkraine have said they will have drones coming early next year that will have large ranges and big booms (can't recall specific stats given)",
">\n\nChrist, I hope there's some good news regarding critical infrastructure after this massive strike... hopefully power, heating and water can be repaired ASAP. \nHopefully, Russia blew their load and won't strike again for a while.\nThis shit is nauseating.\nAll I want for new years is Leo2s and F-16s to Ukraine.",
">\n\nSlava Ukraine. Let’s head into the New Years strong and finish off the Russias in 2023. There can be no peace until Russia totally defeated in Ukraine.",
">\n\nAfter this, Russia will be defeated beyond Ukraine. It's the beginning of the end for Russia and the Putin regime.",
">\n\nSo is there any idea why the number of dead Russians skyrocketed today while the equipment losses are still modest compared to what we've seen before.",
">\n\nThis has been the case for a while, they're not using armor as much because of the wet weather and because it's very vulnerable to modern anti-tank weapons. They saturate the area they are trying to capture with artillery fire and then assault on foot.",
">\n\nHello. I am interested in going to Ukraine to volunteer as a hardware/software engineer/programmer. I doubt I would be useful as a soldier, but I have skills and equipment that could be used for drone development, adaptation, testing, and reverse engineering.\nCan someone point me in a direction toward this goal? If you have any information, feel free to PM me.",
">\n\nI'd suggest checking and asking on /r/ukraine as there are quite a few volunteers on the ground over there.",
">\n\nthank you I posted there too.",
">\n\nDid you post to r/ukrainevolunteers?",
">\n\nNot finding anything backing this tweet\n\nBREAKING: MSNBC’s Andrew Weissman is reporting that Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign manager Paul Manafort made a deal with Vladimir Putin to help Trump get elected.",
">\n\nI wish that Canada would have told the Saudis to get bent and sent the LAVs (original name for the Stryker) destined to Saudi Arabia to Ukraine instead. Then our factories would have been paid, and the weapons would have gone to someone actually deserving of them.",
">\n\nThis is when we find out if the air defence that we’ve provided Ukraine is enough….\nAll of our thoughts are with you Ukraine 🇺🇦",
">\n\nAny info about the damages in the last Russian missle attack?\nIts all over the news that 70% of Kyiv is out of electricity.\nTo my understanding Ukraine is turning off the electricity on purpose just before the attack so that if it hits the damage should be smaller.\nThats why in most cases they are restoring the electric grid pretty fast.\nDoes that makes sense?",
">\n\nI can't talk about whole Kyiv, but today none of my friends have any issues with electricity/water/internet.",
">\n\nWithout more words to describe this senseless war I can only say that Russia is a Terrorist state and should be deprived of access to ANY civilized entities and resources.",
">\n\nSo they want to launch a lot of missiles before Ukraine gets even more anti-air installed?",
">\n\nDoes anyone know a source to estimate the total cost of the war to Russia so far? I know that will be difficult to measure as there are direct costs (funds spent on new equipment or paying soldiers), non-monetary costs (old tanks destroyed) and indirect costs (economy hit)",
">\n\n\n... or even just the $30 billion plus in frozen russian bank assets in EU and US?\n\nI feel like that would be valued at roughly $30 billion, on the low end. :P",
">\n\n:-)\nYeah true, that wasn't a great example, but frozen assets aren't entirely the same thing as completely lost assets.\nI mean, hopefully they will be, but their value to Russia isn't entirely zero while there is still a chance they could recover some of it.",
">\n\n309th day of Russia's two week long special military operation.",
">\n\nThe westernized gay satanist nazis have proved to be more resourceful than Putin thought.",
">\n\nNever underestimate biolab-bred genetically engineered birdmen!",
">\n\nFuck Russia!",
">\n\nIt's a Russian propaganda account by the way. I wouldn't link it because scrolling includes idiocy such as Ukrainian Bakhmut soldiers being photoshopped into their pictures and MRNA vaccine \"skepticism\".",
">\n\nSo that announcement that was coming after P's meeting with Lukashenko....did that not happen because Lukashenko refused to capitulate? Spicy if so!",
">\n\nRemember the Russian military claimed it shot down the drone that hit Engels?\nThey're now saying \"whoops, it was a Russian su-27, oh, and the pilot's dead\".",
">\n\n\"Someday you not have good day Komrade. Today one of those days.\""
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I just watched someone downvote this, and I just wanna ask: Why? Why do you think it's a good thing to have warrantless wiretapping and how does that mesh with both the 4th amendment and preventing tyranny??
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Wyden is on the committee for intelligence which means these are governmental actions he has been briefed on, but cannot reveal due to the info being classified.
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"I just watched someone downvote this, and I just wanna ask: Why? Why do you think it's a good thing to have warrantless wiretapping and how does that mesh with both the 4th amendment and preventing tyranny??",
">\n\nWyden is on the committee for intelligence which means these are governmental actions he has been briefed on, but cannot reveal due to the info being classified."
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10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.
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Keeping up relations.
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I was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!
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">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
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Yeah, I know the bird, Goose
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">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!"
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what always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.
when i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.
Also when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons
I was basically comic book guy at age 8
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"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose"
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what always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.
when i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.
Top Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was.
Also when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons
The neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?
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"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8"
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pilot: it's armor is too think for blasters
also pilot: pew-pew pew
AT-AT: explodes
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"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?"
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I always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground
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"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes"
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AT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.
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"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground"
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Seems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.
The reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.
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"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters."
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And then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts."
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>
But not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.
EDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons"
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I knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. "So, anyways, I started blasting..."
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee."
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I was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\""
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Imagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one."
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>
This happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH."
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I assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?
Wonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly."
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Depending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot"
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tips almost touched
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again."
] |
>
This is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched"
] |
>
Now kiss
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face"
] |
>
**Kith
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss"
] |
>
U.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith"
] |
>
But were any fingers given?
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military"
] |
>
that's a negative Ghost Rider
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?"
] |
>
If it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider"
] |
>
Kick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?"
] |
>
put your oxygen mask back on.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!"
] |
>
I can’t breathe
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on."
] |
>
"I'm not touching YoU!"
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe"
] |
>
One of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\""
] |
>
They started the gay chicken contest
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet"
] |
>
Keep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.
Ancient Chinese Proverb
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest"
] |
>
"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason."
Sun Tzu
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb"
] |
>
Sun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu"
] |
>
Just curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?
Would it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!"
] |
>
Both things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?"
] |
>
For more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001
A US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein."
] |
>
What happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility."
] |
>
It was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.
Edit: copy-pasted from wiki: "For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling "the aftermath of a frat party".[11]"
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board."
] |
>
It seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\""
] |
>
It's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit."
] |
>
2001
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch."
] |
>
Sure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001"
] |
>
Maybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?"
] |
>
Probably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the "shroud".
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha"
] |
>
The Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\"."
] |
>
is that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?!
russia military budget really looking stretched out eh?
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick."
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I've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?"
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Using their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit."
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Aww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you"
] |
>
I couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol"
] |
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Well this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?"
] |
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Similar to top gun 1 and 2 then. xD
|
[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?",
">\n\nWell this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure."
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I mean yeah pretty much, at least substantively, the difference being that both Top Guns have solid editing and scene transitions.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?",
">\n\nWell this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure.",
">\n\nSimilar to top gun 1 and 2 then. xD"
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Why are top comments on such posts always passive agreesive churlish jokes? Why is reddit so incapable of discussing something without infantalizing it.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?",
">\n\nWell this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure.",
">\n\nSimilar to top gun 1 and 2 then. xD",
">\n\nI mean yeah pretty much, at least substantively, the difference being that both Top Guns have solid editing and scene transitions."
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It’s a large subreddit. They all end up this way. You want to find smaller ones for any real conversation to happen.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?",
">\n\nWell this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure.",
">\n\nSimilar to top gun 1 and 2 then. xD",
">\n\nI mean yeah pretty much, at least substantively, the difference being that both Top Guns have solid editing and scene transitions.",
">\n\nWhy are top comments on such posts always passive agreesive churlish jokes? Why is reddit so incapable of discussing something without infantalizing it."
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Even smaller ones become real circlejerks over time, the problem is the upvote/downvote system making it hard for balanced discussion to take place.
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?",
">\n\nWell this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure.",
">\n\nSimilar to top gun 1 and 2 then. xD",
">\n\nI mean yeah pretty much, at least substantively, the difference being that both Top Guns have solid editing and scene transitions.",
">\n\nWhy are top comments on such posts always passive agreesive churlish jokes? Why is reddit so incapable of discussing something without infantalizing it.",
">\n\nIt’s a large subreddit. They all end up this way. You want to find smaller ones for any real conversation to happen."
] |
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“This your idea of fun Mav?”
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[
"10 feet?! That’s uh, really close.",
">\n\n\"Well, you see, I was inverted...\"",
">\n\nKeeping up relations.",
">\n\nI was giving him the bird. You know? The Bird!",
">\n\nYeah, I know the bird, Goose",
">\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose. \nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other. \nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\nI was basically comic book guy at age 8",
">\n\n\nwhat always bugged me about that was that at what point between You've Lost that Loving Feeling and Yeah, I know the bird, Goose - does Charlie get introduced to Goose as Goose.\nwhen i saw it as a kid..i was like..wait, they know each other.\n\nTop Gun instructors have to know their students’ names and call signs. I think the whole point of the bar scene was that she knew who THEY were before they knew who SHE was. \n\nAlso when i was kid watching ESB in the theatre as kid - why are the speeders flying head first into the AT-ATs instead of the sides or rear where there are no cannons\n\nThe neck joinery of the AT-AT is not fast enough to track flying targets. It mostly exists as an armored transport for troops and ground vehicles. A better question is why aren’t stormtroopers hanging out of the doors firing on Luke as he plants that detonator?",
">\n\npilot: it's armor is too think for blasters\nalso pilot: pew-pew pew\nAT-AT: explodes",
">\n\nI always assumed that the electrical controls went out, and dropped the shield when the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground",
">\n\nAT-ATs didn't have shields if I recall correctly; I cannot remember which game it was that zaid so (or if it even counts as canon anymore), but I think the reasoning was the neck of the transport was more lightly armored than the rest of its hull to allow it to move around - once the legs gave out and it crashed into the ground, it couldn't move its neck to defend itself against the blasters.",
">\n\nSeems like a lot of people are confused about why this was allowed to happen. The American plane in question is an RC-135, probably a Rivet Joint conducting a freedom of navigation mission. RC-135s are unarmed, large aircraft that carry upward of 20 people sometimes. They do not have missiles, guns, or other offensive capabilities, so no, the RC-135 would not just shoot the J-11 down. RC-135s operate in international waters and therefore do not carry any weapons that would make them a legitimate military target to attack.\nThe reason RC-135s are intercepted is due to the reconnaissance they do, which other countries generally don't appreciate. The intercepts are fairly common, but Chinese and Russian pilots, recently, have had a streak of unprofessional and dangerous behavior when doing the intercepts.",
">\n\nAnd then the EP-3 was confiscated for some time, for intelligence reasons",
">\n\nBut not before the EP3 crew destroyed ~~all~~ most of the sensitive equipment on board.\nEDIT: got it, thanks. This is what happens when you post before coffee.",
">\n\nI knew a guy tangentially involved with that whole affair, and he said the crew was running through the fuselage literally shooting the equipment and lighting everything on fire when the Chinese got there. \"So, anyways, I started blasting...\"",
">\n\nI was a radar operator in the Marine Corps, and some of the sub-systems contained classified technology and we would have radios and networking stuff that had encryption keys so we always had procedures for protecting or destroying the sensitive stuff should our position be overrun. All the electronics had 'Zero' buttons on them that with a single push would wipe out all the data and the for the equipment there was a fire ax and sledge hammer to disassemble the rest of the stuff. Also thermite grenades would be present if there was actual risk, although I had never seen one.",
">\n\nImagine some trainee hitting the zero button during training. YOU ARE THE DUMBEST. SON. OF. A. BITCH.",
">\n\nThis happens all the time. The zeroize button is pretty easy to hit but causes no real harm unless you’re in a place where you can’t get it reconfigured quickly.",
">\n\nI assume it's just volatile memory and probably FPGAs?\nWonder how long it takes to reconfigure/ boot",
">\n\nDepending on what level of key, it can be as simple as walking down the hall and getting a new one or waiting a day to a couple weeks for a new one to be sent. Then you just load it up in a couple minutes and you're running again. Biggest issue is the higher ups riding your ass, asking when things will be running again.",
">\n\ntips almost touched",
">\n\nThis is military equivalent of when boxers do the pre fight promo and they stand 1inch from each others face",
">\n\nNow kiss",
">\n\n**Kith",
">\n\nU.S. jet came within 10 feet of Chinese aircraft - Chinese military",
">\n\nBut were any fingers given?",
">\n\nthat's a negative Ghost Rider",
">\n\nIf it was possible to show someone your bare ass (a full moon) from the cockpit, would that earn you the call sign Werewolf?",
">\n\nKick the tires and light the fires, it's about to be a blue moon tonight. Aroooooo!",
">\n\nput your oxygen mask back on.",
">\n\nI can’t breathe",
">\n\n\"I'm not touching YoU!\"",
">\n\nOne of the more dangerous of sibling games to play while flying a jet",
">\n\nThey started the gay chicken contest",
">\n\nKeep your friends close and your enemies approximately 10 feet.\nAncient Chinese Proverb",
">\n\n\"The art of warfare is deception and deception is flying within ten feet of an unarmed aircraft for some fucking reason.\"\n\nSun Tzu",
">\n\nSun Tzu said that. And I'd say he knows a little more about flying within 10 feet than you do, pal - because he invented it! And then he perfected it so that no man could best him in the ring of 10 feet!",
">\n\nJust curious: what would happen if a gunner just thought, “You know what? Fuck you.” And lit him up?\nWould it really be war? Or would both sides bullshit and claim it an accident?",
">\n\nBoth things have happened in the past. At least in the same vein.",
">\n\nFor more information, see this similar scenario that played out in 2001\nA US military plane was intercepted by Chinese fighters, and they collided. Chinese airman died, US Military crew made emergency landing and were detained. Eventually both nations released intentionally ambiguous reports admitting “sorrow” to the other nation for what happened but neither ultimately taking responsibility.",
">\n\nWhat happened to the US plane? I’m wondering about protocol when there’s sensitive equipment on board.",
">\n\nIt was a sigint plane so it had even more equipment and materials on board. IIRC, when the decision was made to land on Hainan they immediately began destroying read-outs and modules. Even after landing they didn't leave the aircraft for a while as the Chinese were outside on the runway. For all that they did destroy, the PLAN still gathered insight into US sigint capabilities. It's been a while but I believe the notable piece of intel was the US's ability to track Chinese subs accurately.\nEdit: copy-pasted from wiki: \"For the next 26 minutes, the crew of the EP-3 performed an emergency plan which included destroying sensitive items aboard the aircraft, such as electronic equipment related to intelligence-gathering, documents and data. Part of this plan involved pouring freshly brewed coffee into disk drives and motherboards and using an axe from the plane's survival kit to destroy hard drives.[14] The crew had not been formally trained on how to destroy sensitive documents and equipment, and so improvised. As a result of the destruction, the plane's interior was later described as resembling \"the aftermath of a frat party\".[11]\"",
">\n\nIt seems like a massive oversight that the crew of a sigint plane wouldn't be trained in that. Especially if they're going to be flying that close to any place that the Chinese are going to be flying their own shit.",
">\n\nIt's a massive oversight that every single piece of non-volatile storage isn't encrypted under a key that can be quickly destroyed with a single press of a guarded switch.",
">\n\n2001",
">\n\nSure as hell way too close, but I do not see it come as close as 10 feet in this video. So is it dramatic military hyperbole or just me not having proper frame of reference?",
">\n\nMaybe they got closer off video. In this video it looks closer to ten meters haha",
">\n\nProbably did. This is a common incident in spycraft, this is how you down intelligence gathering ops without directly starting an international incident through a proper attack. It's happened many times before, and the way it's being portrayed is part of the \"shroud\".",
">\n\nThe Russians did it while holding the phone instead of the stick.",
">\n\nis that a hand-held GPS used in the cockpit?! \nrussia military budget really looking stretched out eh?",
">\n\nI've seen cockpit videos from the Ukraine war (can't remember which side) where they have iPads with moving maps in the cockpit.",
">\n\nUsing their version of google maps. Im not even fucking with you",
">\n\nAww did someone in China watch the first Top Gun? lol",
">\n\nI couldn't make heads or tails out of the trailer. I didn't see anything that looked like bad VFX but then again how can you see much of anything with all the quick cuts and shit? I was more miffed at not knowing what the fuck the movie was even about after watching the trailer. It looked like a bunch of air force people performing aerial masturbation for each other... and that's it?",
">\n\nWell this is the director’s first ever movie, all he did prior was produce promotional/propaganda pieces for the Chinese military. Honestly that’s what the movie looks like, a bunch of 1 or 2 minute promotional segments that’ve hastily stitched together. No overarching structure.",
">\n\nSimilar to top gun 1 and 2 then. xD",
">\n\nI mean yeah pretty much, at least substantively, the difference being that both Top Guns have solid editing and scene transitions.",
">\n\nWhy are top comments on such posts always passive agreesive churlish jokes? Why is reddit so incapable of discussing something without infantalizing it.",
">\n\nIt’s a large subreddit. They all end up this way. You want to find smaller ones for any real conversation to happen.",
">\n\nEven smaller ones become real circlejerks over time, the problem is the upvote/downvote system making it hard for balanced discussion to take place."
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