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1nqxvkb
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Kubetail: Real-time Kubernetes logging dashboard - September 2025 update
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andres200ok
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/r/devops/comments/1nqxvkb/kubetail_realtime_kubernetes_logging_dashboard/
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/r/kubernetes/comments/1nqxu61/kubetail_realtime_kubernetes_logging_dashboard/
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2025-09-26T10:37:25.545282
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1nqxiz8
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Do you ever just… vibe code the way I vibe write? 😅
|
So I’m not a developer, I’m in marketing. Which basically means half my life is staring at a blank doc at midnight, pouring coffee into my soul, and just writing whatever feels right in the moment. No plan. No brief. No strategy. Just vibes.
And then the next morning I’m like… “who the hell wrote this nonsense?” Oh right, me.
Lately I’ve been watching the devs I work with and holy sh*t, you guys do the exact same thing but with code. Someone gets a random 2am brainwave, spins up a repo, slaps code together like it’s jazz improv, and suddenly staging is broken and nobody wants to admit who touched it. That’s what I’ve now learned is called “vibe coding.”
As an outsider, it’s honestly hilarious and terrifying at the same time. Like bro, how is my chaotic draft doc somehow less dangerous than your chaotic repo? At least my typos don’t take prod down. I actually ended up writing a blog about this whole thing because I couldn’t stop laughing at the parallels… how marketers vibe write and devs vibe code in almost the same messy way. Dropped it here if anyone’s curious: https://www.codeant.ai/blogs/vibe-coding
But more importantly… I gotta know: do you all do this regularly? Also, let me know if you want me to cover more technical aspects in this blog for you next time.
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Peace_Seeker_1319
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/r/devops/comments/1nqxiz8/do_you_ever_just_vibe_code_the_way_i_vibe_write/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nqxiz8/do_you_ever_just_vibe_code_the_way_i_vibe_write/
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2025-09-26T10:37:26.668948
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"body": "Ad account (history hidden and questionable post).",
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"body": "I have work life balance. If my company wants me to login at 2am when I get an idea they can add a few zeroes to my salary.",
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"body": "Vibe coding is prompting Ai / llm to do the thinking and the code for you. Unless you also use Ai to write your articles then it's not the same. Devs making code from scratch with their own research or head knowledge isn't what the term \"vibe coding\" refers to.",
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"body": "You can’t be good at marketing if you fail at trying hiding your advertisement in this post.",
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"body": "Wanna see all my food stories???? 🥺🥺🥺",
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"body": "Haha.. makes sense",
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"body": "Haha fair point 😂 I guess I’ve been using “vibe coding” in the “chaotic midnight brain dump” sense rather than the literal AI-does-it-for-you way. Tbh, as a marketer, if I ever let AI write my stuff end-to-end, it’d probably sound like a TED Talk written by Siri… so maybe I am closer to your definition than I thought 👀 But yeah, whether it’s AI spitting code or me panic-writing copy with coffee and zero context, vibes are still running the show.",
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"body": "9 days old account. Doubt you have any. Go away.",
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1nqvfj3
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AI agent for internal documents
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Hello there! As mentioned in the title, I want to create a chat that replies to people's questions using the internal documents. For the simplicity I've chosen open-webui, but the replies are quite slow. What have you used with good results? Thanks in advance!
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andi_c1981
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/r/devops/comments/1nqvfj3/ai_agent_for_internal_documents/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nqvfj3/ai_agent_for_internal_documents/
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2025-09-26T10:37:27.798440
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"author": "bluecat2001",
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"body": "What you need is RAG. \n\nSetup part is about 10 % of work. Be prepared to endlessly work on documents. \n\nImo, It doesn’t worth the time spent. ",
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"author": "Low-Opening25",
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"body": "you probably getting yourself into way more trouble than you anticipated. creating reliable AI Agent that will do what you want will take considerable amount of work and optimisation, think full time job for a few months kind of effort level.\n\nTo build a RAG, you will need vector database, you will need to design good data structure and schema for your chunking strategy, you will need to create data ingesting workflows, you will likely need to fine tune the model and to build guardrails around queries and response so it just doesn’t talk about random stuff. all that even before thinking how you will deploy and maintain it to support your userbase.",
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"body": "You want to build one or do you want to integrate solutions? \n\nI've seen chatgpt enterprise connected to confluence and SharePoint provide the results you are after.",
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"body": "I know that I need a RAG. And I also know about the work needs to be done. Still, there are not so many documents. I found a RAG tool here .",
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1nquexs
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New Relic's CCU-based pricing is creating unpredictable costs, pushing teams to sample heavily
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My teammate pointed out something about New Relic's pricing that I had to see for myself. They have this CCU (Compute Capacity Unit) pricing model that can lead to unpredictable costs.
When I went to their [pricing page](https://newrelic.com/pricing) to check what he was talking about, I didn't even realize CCU-based and user-based are two separate pricing options. They present it in a way where it's easy to think CCU is just a component of their pricing, not a distinct model. Had to look twice to catch that.
[I wrote about how their CCU pricing actually works](https://signoz.io/blog/new-relic-ccu-pricing-unpredictable-costs/) based on our customer conversations. The model charges based on peak concurrent usage, so one traffic spike can blow up your monthly bill.
Has anyone here dealt with unexpected costs from CCU-based pricing? How do you handle capacity planning when your monitoring costs can spike unpredictably?
Look, as a competitor (I work at SigNoz), we're always analyzing what others are doing in the space. But this CCU pricing thing? I'm genuinely lost on how their customers budget for this.
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ExcitingThought2794
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/r/devops/comments/1nquexs/new_relics_ccubased_pricing_is_creating/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nquexs/new_relics_ccubased_pricing_is_creating/
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2025-09-26T10:37:28.965747
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1nqrujv
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Exploring Terminals, TTYs, and PTYs
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This post explores terminals, tty and pty.
[https://cefboud.com/posts/terminals-pty-tty-pyte/](https://cefboud.com/posts/terminals-pty-tty-pyte/)
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Helpful_Geologist430
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/r/devops/comments/1nqrujv/exploring_terminals_ttys_and_ptys/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nqrujv/exploring_terminals_ttys_and_ptys/
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2025-09-26T10:37:30.075157
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1nqqf79
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is this a good dev name?
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AvdenAvden
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/r/devops/comments/1nqqf79/is_this_a_good_dev_name/
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/r/questions/comments/1nqqexz/is_this_a_good_dev_name/
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2025-09-26T10:37:31.187759
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"body": "Fr Smh",
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1nqpjgc
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Need suggestions please
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Hey everyone! I come from a non-IT background (5 years of experience at Amazon) and I've almost completed 90% of a DevOps course. My major concern now is resume creation. Also, once they see my relieving letter, my designation will be clearly visible. (I resigned 6 months ago due to personal reasons, and since then I've gained knowledge in DevOps. However, I did not work on any DevOps-related roles or services during my tenure.)
In addition, my CTC was comparatively lower and when they ask these questions, I'll be totally clueless. I'm no longer afraid of attending DevOpsinterviews since I feel confident, but these two points are worrying me. Any insights would be greatly helpful. Thank you.
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MaleficentPassion869
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/r/devops/comments/1nqpjgc/need_suggestions_please/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nqpjgc/need_suggestions_please/
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2025-09-26T10:37:32.321463
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"author": "majesticace4",
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"body": "Focus your resume on the projects and hands-on work you’ve done in DevOps, not just the course. Recruiters care more about proof of skills than your past title. For the CTC part, don’t overthink it, be clear about your transition story and aim for entry-level DevOps roles. Everyone starts somewhere, and showing confidence plus real project work will matter way more than your old designation.",
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"author": "Unusual_Money_7678",
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"body": "hey, this is a super common spot for career changers to be in, so don't stress too much about it.\n\n\n\nFor the resume, lean hard into a skills-based or project-based format. Put your DevOps skills (CI/CD, Docker, K8s, whatever you learned) and any projects from your course right at the top. Your Amazon experience isn't irrelevant – highlight skills like process management, working in a large-scale operation, etc. Frame it as \"what I learned about systems at Amazon that I can apply to DevOps.\"\n\n\n\nOn the designation/relieving letter, it is what it is. Most recruiters understand career pivots. Be upfront that you spent the last 6 months dedicated to upskilling for this new path. It shows commitment.\n\n\n\nAs for CTC, your old salary doesn't matter. Research what junior DevOps roles pay in your area and when they ask for your expectation, give them that number. Don't even bring up your old salary.\n\n\n\nGood luck with the hunt",
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"author": "DevOps_Sar",
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"body": "Yes I agree with the majesticace4 advise, focus your resume on skills and projects not just jot titles/Corteses! Even if you don’t have past DevOps roles, list what you’ve built while learning, CI/CD pipelines, containerization, infra as code, etc. Recruiters care more about what you can *do* now.\n\nProjects + Skills > past titles. Show, don't just tell.",
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"author": "akornato",
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"body": "The fact that you took six months to deliberately upskill shows initiative and commitment that many hiring managers actually respect. When it comes to your previous role and salary, be straightforward about it. Say something like \"I worked in operations at Amazon for five years, which gave me valuable experience with large-scale systems, but I realized my passion was in DevOps engineering, so I invested time in learning the technical skills to make that transition.\" Your Amazon experience isn't a liability - it's proof you can handle enterprise environments and pressure.\n\nFor the salary question, frame it around your career change rather than making excuses. You can say your previous compensation reflected a different role and industry focus, and now you're looking for opportunities that align with your new technical direction in DevOps. Most companies expect to pay market rate for the role they're hiring for, not based on what you made before. The key is demonstrating that your course knowledge translates to real understanding during technical discussions. If you find yourself struggling with how to navigate these potentially tricky questions during actual interviews, I'm on the team that built [AI interview assistant](http://interviews.chat) \\- it's designed to help people handle exactly these kinds of challenging interview scenarios where you need to position career transitions positively.",
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"author": "MaleficentPassion869",
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"body": "Thank you so much for sharing.. Appreciate it :)",
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"body": "Thank you so much for sharing.. Appreciate it :)",
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"author": "MaleficentPassion869",
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"body": "Thank you so much for sharing.. Appreciate it :)",
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"body": "Whoa! That was quite a big one. Thank you so much for sharing.. Appreciate it :)",
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1nqo56i
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What certs/qualifications can I get as a Backend/DevOps to be more qualified and hirable?
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hey, 23 year old male with a degree in CS I have a lot of experience that puts me in a really good place where I live I make 10 times more than what juniors make and I make 6-7 times what seniors make but I'm not good enough to get a sponsorship and go to a country that gives me decent livable money while I get more experiences so I can actually be something eventually
so the goal now is to get a job in North American, Australia, EU whatever just whatever country, I know if I go to the EU I will be making a lot less money that what I'm making now but it will be more than full time companies salary here and I will be finally able to advance my career and skills in an office job more than contracting
so what I need now it some advice, should I go into DevOps or focus on being a Backend dev? what certs or what should I do to make myself hirable? I need to leave here asap because its either slave salaries or no advancements in my career.
should I get a masters?
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In-Hell123
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nqo56i/what_certsqualifications_can_i_get_as_a/
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2025-09-26T10:37:33.521056
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"author": "Efficient-Yak-9374",
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"body": "You sound very inexperienced and immature by the way you write, I can only imagine how much worse it is to meet you in person. I'd skip the certification and work on the attitude problem. That'll be your biggest blocker for getting a better job.",
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"body": "If you're targeting North America, Australia, or the EU, certs like AWS Certified Solutions Architect, Docker Certified Associate, or Kubernetes Administrator are valuable for DevOps. For backend, look into Oracle Java Certification or PCEP if you're into Python. A master's can help but isn't necessary if you have a strong portfolio and relevant certs. Also, networking through LinkedIn can open opportunities. Focus where you feel your skills can shine more effectively.",
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"body": "The best qualification is a degree from the school of hard knocks",
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"author": "In-Hell123",
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"body": "I'd recommend you to read through my post history I was very nice to people that were respectful and an asshole to trolls you can see that clearly, anyways thank you for the advice you said it respectfully and I respect that",
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"author": "In-Hell123",
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"body": "Thank you i appreciate it",
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"id": "ng938jj",
"is_submitter": true,
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"author": "SalafiStudent",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Any idea what the middle east like? Thank you!",
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"id": "ng97erl",
"is_submitter": false,
"parent_id": "ng91tsh",
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"author": "In-Hell123",
"awards": 0,
"body": "sure do I right that on my resume? how to write it? I'm sure since your this clever you can def help",
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"author": "zootbot",
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"body": "I’d just put it at the top",
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"author": "SalafiStudent",
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"body": "Thanks for your take! How does it relate to devops, or my question as a whole? Cheers :)",
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"author": "In-Hell123",
"awards": 0,
"body": "That's what yo mama told me to do",
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"is_submitter": true,
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1nqm5v5
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The spam in this sub is unreal
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Two posts today, sock puppet SEO accounts. Poster with a lame premise, commenter in to suggest a solution.
Cant remember what the first one was (they deleted their post), but the second was Atlassian - https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/s/M5DUQGRrtj
Mods, please take note and stop this nonsense.
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shulemaker
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{
"author": "serverhorror",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Nice try Arlassian, not visiting your ad!",
"created_utc": 1758846610,
"id": "ng82f7j",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 35,
"stickied": false
},
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"author": "Hotshot55",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Sorry, you'll need to share your opinion in the form of an article posted on medium for anyone to read it.",
"created_utc": 1758850347,
"id": "ng8d2iv",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 23,
"stickied": false
},
{
"author": "themegainferno",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Mods don't gaf, they aren't really paid to do any of this. As long as its not overt hate, irrelevant, or bruises their ego, they won't do anything.",
"created_utc": 1758843685,
"id": "ng7ucpd",
"is_submitter": false,
"parent_id": null,
"permalink": "/r/devops/comments/1nqm5v5/the_spam_in_this_sub_is_unreal/ng7ucpd/",
"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 29,
"stickied": false
},
{
"author": "Phenergan_boy",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Honestly, mods here are pretty good most of the time. Some of the other subs just get bombarded with shitty gen AI engagement baits",
"created_utc": 1758847340,
"id": "ng84h81",
"is_submitter": false,
"parent_id": null,
"permalink": "/r/devops/comments/1nqm5v5/the_spam_in_this_sub_is_unreal/ng84h81/",
"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 8,
"stickied": false
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"author": "mirrax",
"awards": 0,
"body": "I don't put spamming above Atlassian, but I don't think they'd be shilling for Opsgenie. The product they are deprecating and are [actively trying to get people to migrate off of](https://www.atlassian.com/software/opsgenie/migration).",
"created_utc": 1758852835,
"id": "ng8jwxj",
"is_submitter": false,
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"permalink": "/r/devops/comments/1nqm5v5/the_spam_in_this_sub_is_unreal/ng8jwxj/",
"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 13,
"stickied": false
},
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"author": "Ok_Needleworker_5247",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Spam's a real issue in any online community and can ruin the quality of discussions. Mods have to juggle a lot and it's tough when spam isn't obvious to everyone. Maybe fostering a culture where users flag spam more actively could help ease the mods' burden. Sharing insights on spotting these patterns can also make the sub more resilient to such tactics.",
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"id": "ng8a2tu",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 2,
"stickied": false
},
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"author": "badaccount99",
"awards": 0,
"body": "There was a guy promoting his movie AI thing.\n\nLets add some more mods?",
"created_utc": 1758855824,
"id": "ng8rub5",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 2,
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"author": "The_Career_Oracle",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Here’s an idea, don’t have shit products and people will find you without trickery",
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 1,
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"author": "TheDevDex",
"awards": 0,
"body": "The night gathers and your watch begins ;) but seriously, this sub does a better job than most others. Perhaps, msg them asking to be a mod?",
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"id": "ng99yst",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
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},
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"author": "BP8270",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Did you know there is a downvote button?",
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"id": "ng8pptq",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": -20,
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"author": "alexklaus80",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Yeah. I'm modding smaller subs but this type of stuff is quite a lot of work. I mean each one occurence isn't a lot, but it piles up quite easily (because what's obvious to one may not be so from the other views and then there's a complaints to deletion and so on and on comes to modmail).\n\nI think volunteering for moderator is much better than asking for more actions.",
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"author": "BortLReynolds",
"awards": 0,
"body": "What makes you think they're actually doing anything? Two of em have no activity in the last 6 months to a year.",
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"id": "ng9r50t",
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"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
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"author": "HeadlessChild",
"awards": 0,
"body": "It looks like several people do.",
"created_utc": 1758862091,
"id": "ng95zki",
"is_submitter": false,
"parent_id": "ng8pptq",
"permalink": "/r/devops/comments/1nqm5v5/the_spam_in_this_sub_is_unreal/ng95zki/",
"post_id": "1nqm5v5",
"score": 7,
"stickied": false
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"author": "sinister_lazer",
"awards": 0,
"body": "I found it!",
"created_utc": 1758881851,
"id": "nga4ss2",
"is_submitter": false,
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"score": 1,
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{
"author": "justanearthling",
"awards": 0,
"body": "I’m a moderator in small sub and it sucks. We are basically Reddit slaves. There’s absolutely no benefits from being a moderator, they could at least give us pro for this but no, nothing. And that’s exactly why I only care about it when I’m on Reddit and bother to look into my inbox.",
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1nqigf2
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Why does every startup think they need to build their own incident management system?
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Just joined a new company and they're super proud of their "custom incident response workflow" that's basically a Python script that creates Slack channels and a Notion page. Founder keeps talking about how "we're not like other companies, our incidents are different."
They're not different. Same dance every time service goes down, someone manually pages people, we all jump into a channel and start debugging while trying to remember if we updated the status page.
Previous engineer who built this thing left 6 months ago and nobody really understands how it works. Last week it created 15 incident channels for the same outage because of some edge case nobody thought of.
Every startup goes through this phase where they think incident management is their unique problem that needs a custom solution. Meanwhile we're burning engineering time maintaining this janky script instead of just buying something that works.
Anyone else dealt with this NIH syndrome around incident tooling? How do you convince leadership that some problems are worth paying someone else to solve?
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Tiny_Habit5745
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"author": "ChicagoJohn123",
"awards": 0,
"body": "They don’t want to pay for a saas tool to do it?",
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"post_id": "1nqigf2",
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{
"author": "Road_of_Hope",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Oh look, _another_ incident management ad pitch from u/adjective_noun####… 🙄",
"created_utc": 1758835782,
"id": "ng785hw",
"is_submitter": false,
"parent_id": null,
"permalink": "/r/devops/comments/1nqigf2/why_does_every_startup_think_they_need_to_build/ng785hw/",
"post_id": "1nqigf2",
"score": 106,
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"author": "donalmacc",
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"body": "Two main reasons IMO \n\n- at first glance existing solutions are expensive. 30 minutes of a python script gets you something that will spin up a slack channel, make a notion page, and tag a group, and clean up. That’s usually the workflow it evolved from. Using incident or pagerduty is a new process new tool and is $20/mo/seat. This ties into the second point. \n\n- it’s easy to just make a slack channel and force everyone to be in it. Using an existing tool forced you to think about who is actually responsible for being paged and making sure that person gets time not on call. Writing a python bot avoids making that decision.",
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"stickied": false
},
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"author": "crytek2025",
"awards": 0,
"body": "They’d rather pay for man hours than a saas tool?",
"created_utc": 1758838230,
"id": "ng7fh8y",
"is_submitter": false,
"parent_id": null,
"permalink": "/r/devops/comments/1nqigf2/why_does_every_startup_think_they_need_to_build/ng7fh8y/",
"post_id": "1nqigf2",
"score": 12,
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"author": "MendaciousFerret",
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"body": "If you have Zoom, Jira & paging (like JSM) already then you're about 60-70% of the way to an incident management system (I'm assuming you have observability too). Most of the incident management tools I've looked at centre around a Slack integration anyway. \n\nThe two areas where an off the shelf system will shine over something hand-rolled is in analytics and possibly also AI/ML support for RCA. Doing analytics about incident trends and what comes out of PIRs with Jira dashboards sucks. \n\nMost of incdient management is having dedicated, professional engineers who care about running their systems and are diligent when the reliability dial tips the wrong way. The tooling is secondary, in my opinion at least.",
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"id": "ng7ihwc",
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"score": 8,
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"author": "Murky-Sector",
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"body": "Every startup does not do this\n\nNo. Of the 20+ Ive been involved in no more than a few.\n\nAsk about these kinds of details in the interview. Look for stuff like this and avoid. Its way less than \"every\".",
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"post_id": "1nqigf2",
"score": 15,
"stickied": false
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"author": "PowerOfTheShihTzu",
"awards": 0,
"body": "I dunno why but after auditing a few incident management plans lately for work I found this thread kinda hilarious 😆",
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"id": "ng7kczr",
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"post_id": "1nqigf2",
"score": 5,
"stickied": false
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"author": "snarkhunter",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Imagine if they put that energy into having fewer incidents.",
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"author": "vmelikyan",
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"body": "just pay the pagerduty tax and focus on your business. Next....",
"created_utc": 1758841474,
"id": "ng7odky",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqigf2",
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"stickied": false
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"author": "doryllis",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Because they can’t afford a real contract is my guess.",
"created_utc": 1758835881,
"id": "ng78gpr",
"is_submitter": false,
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"author": "Best-Repair762",
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"body": "\\>Every startup goes through this phase\n\nNot really. Orgs that have experienced ops folks do not do this. A startup's focus should be on solving the key business problem which they set out to solve - and outsource everything else to a managed solution/SaaS.\n\nIf you have to convince leadership that this is necessary, you have bigger problems.",
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"post_id": "1nqigf2",
"score": 2,
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"author": "Pandas1104",
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"body": "I spent a year doing research and gave 2 presentations about improvements and even priced out the tools. They didn't cave until our second largest client almost left us due to an incident and I made a huge argument it could have been avoided if they would just listen. They basically made me pick a solution, document, and implement it myself. I think they thought I would give up or quit, the joke was on them because it was wildly successful and we landed a huge new client because we had a system and could provide assurance to them to buy.",
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"id": "ng7p7aj",
"is_submitter": false,
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"author": "ohiocodernumerouno",
"awards": 0,
"body": "this must be a secret saas post",
"created_utc": 1758844753,
"id": "ng7xbl2",
"is_submitter": false,
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"post_id": "1nqigf2",
"score": 4,
"stickied": false
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"author": "CWRau",
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"body": "I mean, what choices do we have for self hosted / open source incident management? I know of none 😅\nAt least not really modern stuff, I found some that are still installed with binaries instead of k8s, one that didn't work with alertmanager,...",
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"id": "ng740id",
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"author": "badaccount99",
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"body": "Because Jira is stupid expensive for a company with no income.\n\nBut it's actually a decent SaaS.",
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"author": "Singularity42",
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"body": "I think a lot of startups get the \"not invented here\" syndrome.\n\nI think this is for a few reasons:\n- people have more autonomy, so they can\n- it's quick to whip something up yourself cause you don't have to deal with the scale and bureaucracy of a bigger company \n- if you do it yourself you can get exactly what you want and not make compromises\n- it is free. At least on paper\n\nI don't think this is always bad, to start with. The problem is when it no longer scales and you are burning more time on it than it's worth.\nUsing an off the shelf solution can also take a lot of maintenance too, so it isn't always cut and dry.",
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"body": "Because they have budgets and B2b tools are hilariously expensive",
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"author": "ycnz",
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"body": "Because the off the shelf ones are genuinely terrible value for money.",
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"author": "daryn0212",
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"body": "Opsgenie (or whatever it got bought into by atlassian), datadog and incidentbot",
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"author": "LargeSale8354",
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"body": "Because startups all have got burnt by JIRA. The irony being that JIRA started life as a bug tracker/incident management tool",
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"author": "mjbmitch",
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"body": "Another ChatGPT post!",
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"body": "SaaS solutions are expensive and require people to maintain. Small projects like incidence management are good for Jr. devs to build up and maintain. It can also be customized to a companies unique situation if needed.\n\nStartups also tend to have really capable and productive developers and these projects don’t take too long to build.\n\nAt a certain point, it could be hard to scale and using a SaaS might make more sense. ",
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"author": "daedalus_structure",
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"body": "You don't need an incident management tool. \n\nA person can create a Slack channel and a Notion page. \n\nStop creating tools that require infrastructure and reliability engineering for things which take 10 seconds to do.",
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"author": "Loki0891",
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"body": "Throw that script into ChatGPT and have it explain the steps of the script to you. Maybe it will shed some light on how it operates. Then you can tell CGPT what issues it’s giving you and possibly point you in the direction of where in the script may be the culprit.",
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"author": "ifatree",
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"body": "when you rely on an external tool for incident management, where do you log the incident for when it's down? you have to have something at the bottom that you've built yourself and doesn't rely on other people to work, or your solution doesn't always work.\n\n> Previous engineer who built this thing left 6 months ago and nobody really understands how it works.\n\nit's basically a Python script that creates Slack channels and a Notion page.",
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"author": "Longjumpingfish0403",
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"body": "Totally get the struggle. Sometimes, using open-source tools like Atlassian's Opsgenie or Sentry can bridge the gap before going all out on pricey SaaS. They can be customized yet offer structure and support, minimizing heavy dev time. Worth exploring if budget's tight but you need reliability.",
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"author": "notospez",
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"body": "I mean, honestly, why pay for a SaaS tool when all you need is a simple Python script to create a Slack channel? (that is how all these monstrosities are born - seen it happen way too often)",
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"author": "tankerkiller125real",
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"body": "We spent 5 months looking for a SaaS tool, out of all the ones we found 4 were actually halfway decent, 2 where actually worth using (integration with our cloud provider of choice and easy to work with APIs/Webhooks), and both of them cost $15-20 per user/month...\n\nMind you a M365 E5 subscription which comes with Teams, SharePoint, Office, Exchange Online, Defender for Endpoint, Windows Enterprise, Entra ID P2, Intune, etc. cost $57/month\n\nSo I have to ask, what is it with these SaaS incident management tools that they think their product is worth the price of roughly half a subscription that provides an entire business worth of software. And you can't say it's Uptime, SLAs, or any of that kind of stuff, because they have plenty of their own outages and issues.",
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"author": "eltear1",
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"body": "That's usually ine of the reason",
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"author": "joeyignorant",
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"body": "they would rather pay a dev to fuck it up over and over and call it sunk cost \nstartup thinking in a nutshell",
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"body": "This is functionally it. \n\nThis is in fact the reason almost every time, when a company has a custom-rolled solution for something which is available on the market.\n\nBecause they look at the issue, they look at the Saas tools, see that the lowest tier is $1000/month, and realise, \"Hey we're a team of developers, we can roll our own for nothing\". \n\nBut then \"roll our own\" quickly starts getting more and more features bolted on by developers squeezing the work in and not following proper development patterns, until it's a maintenance headache.",
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"body": "At the same time - the impact of having \"everyone\" on call at all times gets fairly tiring very quickly. Especially when you have time zones or a large enough teams that not everyone needs to be on every MIM. \n\nAn issue with the DB? We don't front end designers on a call.",
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"author": "nooneinparticular246",
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"body": "Yeah. It’s fine until it isn’t. Zapier can make a pretty decent and cheap Incident.io replacement until you need the full thing.",
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"author": "WhatsFairIsFair",
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"body": "The more obvious reason? Incidents don't happen that frequently and when they do the most important part is investigating and resolving the issue. You don't need an incident management system for that and it can't help you with it anyways. You can just use excel or notion for documentation why not. \n\nDon't overinvest in something you don't need.",
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"author": "SMS-T1",
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"body": "But only until implementation. Paying for man hours of Ops and maintenance? Couldn't be my startup.",
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"author": "MuscleLazy",
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"body": "That is a super toxic work environment, people who did not collaborate on your proposal actually wanted to see you fail big time. I would look for another job, the company and your manager don’t deserve you.",
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"author": "LateToTheParty2k21",
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"body": "OneUptime took a pretty good stab at it. It's completely free to run on prem with no limits but they have a SAAS as well.",
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"author": "antCB",
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"body": "I mean, could use an ITSM tool for that - kind of like cutting a steak with a samurai sword, but it could be done. There are multiple paid and free options - SaaS or on-prem, and with various amounts of integrations ready (or at least ways to set them up yourself, via we hooks, etc.).\n\nThere are free (&open source) tools out there (OTRS, comes to mind) - they are a royal pain in the butt to configure and kickstart, but once they're set up, you are done. \n\nBut that requires process, and by the looks of it, this startup has none.",
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"author": "daedalus_structure",
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"body": ">when you rely on an external tool for incident management, where do you log the incident for when it's down? you have to have something at the bottom that you've built yourself and doesn't rely on other people to work, or your solution doesn't always work.\n\nThe home grown incident management tool that is not maintained as a first class product is going to be far more unavailable than a tool supported by an entire company of engineers and operations that is maintained as a first class product.",
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"author": "shulemaker",
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"body": "Super lame SEO spam from u/Tiny_Habit5745 and u/Longjumpingfish0403\n\nSomebody tell Atlassian their SEO person needs to be fired.",
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"author": "Soccham",
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"body": "Ain’t nobody promoting OpsGenie in 2025",
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"author": "Kalinon",
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"body": "Nobody wants to pay atassian’s price for an over engineered solution.",
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"author": "bedel99",
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"body": "We just had a single slack channel called incident. How many incidents are you having at once?",
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"author": "trashtiernoreally",
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"body": "My python scripts would be offended if they could read!",
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"author": "otterley",
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"body": "What do you expect out of your incident management mechanisms? There’s much more value to be had out of incidents than simply telling people that you’re having one and when it has been cleared.",
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"author": "donjulioanejo",
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"body": "Yep and those $15-20 per user per month is usually ON TOP of whatever you pay for Pagerduty, and also on top of what you pay for your monitoring software.",
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"author": "donalmacc",
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"body": "Absolutely no disagreement here. But that requires you actually have correct alerting per system, and to design responsibilities. Both of which are things startups don’t do!",
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"author": "Pandas1104",
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"body": "They didn't deserve it but I have an unhealthy relationship with my job. luckily this was 7 years ago, they sold the company and both got pushed out when the acquiring company figured out how toxic it was. After they left it was like waking up after an abusive relationship. I got a big raise and promotion and now manage a lot of the teams. Story with a happy ending thus far",
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"author": "CWRau",
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"body": "Ou, very nice! I'm gonna take a look at that!",
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"author": "tankerkiller125real",
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"body": "It's very good software actually, my only complaint is no integrations (yet) with vendors like AWS, Azure, GCP, etc. I know there's a workflow thing that in theory could let me send webhooks to it, parse them, and so forth so on. But that's a ton of manual work compared to a lot of the integrated platforms.",
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"author": "CWRau",
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"body": "Ah, never heard of ITSM before, was always searching for \"incident management\". I'll take a look, thanks!",
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"author": "akerasi",
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"body": "At least 15, according to their tracker /s",
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"author": "Nestramutat-",
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"body": "It's nice to have one channel per incident to make looking at incident history easier. \n\nWe just have incident.io handle the channel creation though",
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"author": "Shogobg",
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"body": "All of them /s",
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"author": "somnambulist79",
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"body": "Lmao, that’s pretty much what I thought. Just use a static channel.",
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"author": "CoryOpostrophe",
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"body": "And if you’re having more than one one channel with a few threads seems like a great way to keep people in the loop",
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"author": "bonoboho",
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"body": "Call `open()` and they can!",
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"body": "Glad to hear that!",
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"author": "LateToTheParty2k21",
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"body": "I agree but I was comparing this to a python script vs something like pager duty or xMatters for example. \n\nWhat is your use case here?",
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"body": "We have alerts already setup in Azure for things OneUptime simply can't track at the moment (like Azure SQL Database IO/Memory/CPU usage) being able to push those to OneUptime for the actual paging and response management would be ideal, currently the only way to do this (that I've found) is via the Work Flow system, which would get very complicated, very quickly for us (over 200 unique alerts, with several different incident groups)",
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"body": "Ah okay. Well I'm sure you could setup a notification policy to forward all events from Azure to OneUpTime which it can respond too. \n\nhttps://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/azure-monitor/alerts/activity-log-alerts-webhook\n\nYou would have to define workflow for each cloud provider to handle the different JSON structures but overall it wouldn't be that complex if I'm thinking it through right.",
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Deploy to production with just `docker compose up`
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Hey,
Working on lots of small projects at a startup, I kept running into the same issue: deploying to production is either overkill (Kubernetes) or a hassle (managing your own VPS/EC2).
All I wanted was: if it runs locally with Docker Compose, it should run in production the same way. No new CLIs, no servers to babysit.
So I built a service where you can literally do:
$ docker compose up -d
… and your stack is live in the cloud.
Would love feedback from the community, am I the only one to have this problem?
[https://wip.cx](https://wip.cx)
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"body": "Yikes. This is a great way to accidentally deploy dev to prod, especially if you ever get a second person working on it. Also I would rather use a remote system to perform the deploy so I'm not babysitting my laptop while the deploy runs. \n\nFine for one person throwing something together, but please emphasize that so people don't start using it on larger projects.",
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"body": "For some of my customers who want the in-between I build the \"poor man cicd\".\n\n\nThe deployment part is just templating out a quadlet on a VM, wherever that is.\n\n\nYou still want env vars, but I guess that's not the part you have problems with.",
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"body": "And where do you run that if not VPS :D",
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"body": "So the problem you're solving with this is....using kubernetes? I feel like there there's an easier way.",
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"body": "I'm going to bet that kubernetes is probably not overkill. It certainly could be, but the number of people who think it's overkill when it isn't...",
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"body": "I’m confused on the managing your own VPS/EC2 aspect of this. So this is a proxy that sits in the middle somewhere essentially? And it provisions the EC2 for us on demand? Or what is going on here?",
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"body": "Docker Compose is a dev tool, not a production tool.",
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"body": "Just build a proper CI pipeline?",
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"body": "You need to explicitly set \\`DOCKER\\_HOST=...\\` in order to deploy to production. I also agree this is useful for small to medium projects, and should not be used for larger ones. But most projects out there falls into the first category and options for to deploy to productions are limited and painful, in my opinion.",
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"body": "I know a lot of people are using internally some variations of this. Which can be worth it but still need maintenance. I know most teams would prefer not have to debug their production environment and for this, this is great.\n\nNot sure what you mean about the env vars.",
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"author": "Zolty",
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"body": "Can you not see the site it loads fine for me https://localhost:3000",
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"body": "It's not exactly a VPS, but yeah it's a VM. You don't need to maintenance yourself if you're looking to compare between running it yourself on a VPS or using this.",
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"body": "Do you know an easier way to deploy to production?\n\nAll major cloud providers either provide Kubernetes clusters as a service, or their own orchestrator like AWS ECS.\n\nBut if you want to deploy a docker compose project, you just run it on a linux machine.",
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"body": "Kubernetes is just a better/complete docker-compose",
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"body": "Yes, it's a reverse proxy for docker that automatically provision VMs to run your containers. Those VMs are automatically updated and managed. It's fully transparent for your docker client and is 100% compatible with all the docker suite and images.",
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"body": "docker itself is a toy, there's way better container runtimes around.\n\nthat damn root socket is the source of most issues with docker.",
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"body": "I have one, that's why I don't want to deploy by running docker compose up on my laptop.",
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"body": "Yeah if you don't want to deploy from your laptop, you can do it from github actions, it would work the same way, and the DOCKER\\_HOST can be a secret.",
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"body": "I had a look at your linked page, a bit of self promotion but I'm ok with that.\n\nI'm curious why you didn't go with podman as a container runtime instead of docker, the API is better to work with under the hood.\n\nwhat if I want to revert a deploy to a previous version?\n\nI don't see how you solved the problem of managing the underlying VM, OS upgrades and such.\n\nedit: brainfart, I see, you inject via reverseproxy the commands to start the VM, may I suggest to you using immutable images under the hood? even CoreOS looks like the right OS to start from.\n\n\n\nhow do you manage storage?\n\nbtw I currently use docker-compose to deploy to prod, I wrap it with scripts and use ARGS and the build section to handle image creation and tagging, it does 99% of what you want via bash only.\n\ndevs just do:\n\nssh application@server /application/deploy.sh\n\nand [deploy.sh](http://deploy.sh) wraps git to git pull from the repo, get the short commit hash, push it to docker-compose, I use it as an ARG to tag the image, docker-compose down and then docker-compose up and voila, the latest image is the one running, revert back is easy if they want to do it, a few maintenance scripts to clean the images, done.",
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"body": "A VPS and VM is the same thing? Regardless, both require OS & package updates, need to be monitored and need to be backed up.",
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"author": "ID10T-3RR0R",
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"body": "terraform... an ami... and a userdata/cloud-init script?",
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"author": "theweeJoe",
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"body": "Is your production deployment machine (which will host the containers) on Linux? Is it an ec2 or equivalent?",
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"body": "yes, 99% of projects don't need kubernetes (or autoscaling, lmao).\n\nYou can set up a literal script to deploy to whatever VM you're renting to from your git repo, it takes not a very long time.\n\nI know, I know...Google uses 50 million lines of IaC and 50 morbillion auto scale cluster tree shaking monkey breaking automobile VMs but most companies have 1/100000000 of the load and complexity the giants do on their core services.",
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"body": "Yes. In a very oversimplified way, I would say that is true.",
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"body": "So do have a separate compose file for prod vs local?",
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"body": "> I'm curious why you didn't go with podman as a container runtime instead of docker, the API is better to work with under the hood.\n\n\nPodman is also a good option I might move to in the future. I also explored rootless docker but had too much limitations compared to standalone docker.\n\n\n> how do you manage storage?\n\n\nUser relative data such as containers, images, volumes are stored on a separate VM disk and is stored on a cephFS cluster. Its retrievable on demand.\n\n\n> btw I currently use docker-compose to deploy to prod, I wrap it with scripts and use ARGS and the build section to handle image creation and tagging, it does 99% of what you want via bash only.\n\n\nTotally agree. I used to handle this In a similar way by having a github action that scp everything to the remote machine and run docker compose up.\n\n\nThe thing is we got issues on scaling with this. Our project was using too much ram and triggered swap to the point of the kernel having to kill a process. In our case it killed an IAM relative process which brought down the entire ec2.\n\n\nJust to say that this is not a server bullet. You need to check and maintain yourself.\n\n\nA lot of cloud products are built around this, the promise you just haven't to focus on code and features.\n\n\nThis exists for Kubernetes so why not for Docker?\n\n\nThis setup work great but you might profit from more stability that wip.cx would provide, in a deploy forget it philosophy.",
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"body": "Right, and you're responsible for this when you get a VPS to deploy, but not if you move to Kubernetes. Which is a shame cause Kubernetes is much more complex than Docker and don't fit small projects. What I'm proposing is a way to have the best of both worlds. Fast deploying and no maintenance required.",
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"body": "This is easier?",
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"body": "I'm using a linux VM per user. It's not an EC2 it's running on a proxmox cluster that gets managed automatically when users wants to deploy a new docker project. Check the article on [https://wip.cx](https://wip.cx/) there's a lot more details.",
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"body": "I see your thinking, I'm not going to do this for my customers because for one reason or another this doesn't fit them, mainly they are either too big or too small.\n\nI still see the thinking behind this and wish you the best, I do believe some people will find it useful.\n\nSend me a message if you want collaborators, I'm a Linux guy and am deep into this sort of thing and have ideas on how to make this slightly better, maybe.\nLike: Lua/openresty in nginx to work on the calls Dockers sends to the remote host?",
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European Pulic Clouds
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Hey everyone! Is anyone working with a european public cloud at your company already? My company is currently considering StackIT and Telecom Cloud, bith are German. What are your experiences with the respective european cloud providers so far in the corporate context?
Edit: public instead of pulic
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"body": "There was today a public talk about the state of EU Data Platforms/Cloud Providers.\n\nThe reality shows how EU Cloud Providers are offering their services on top of US tech\n\nhttps://mastodon.social/@leonoverweel/115264193382579482",
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"body": "I looked at StackIT maybe a year ago or so. Unfortunately lacking a lot of features that we needed back then.",
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"body": "Germany:\nhttps://www.hetzner.com/\n\n\nFrance:\nhttps://ovhcloud.com/",
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"body": "It always depends on what kind of services you need. Is it just a few compute instances, and S3-like bucket of fancy stuff only Hyperscalers tend to have?",
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"body": "If you want a very quick support feedback, try gridscale gmbh https://gridscale.io/\n\nThey have offerings such as kubernetes loadbalancers databases caches vms etc",
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"body": "Haven't looked at the ionos cloud services yet, but it seems to have a very cheap VMs out there",
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"author": "headdertz",
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"body": "There is one I know, the Scaleway:\n\n \n[Europe's empowering cloud provider | Scaleway](https://www.scaleway.com/en/)",
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"body": "what services are you using?",
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"body": "Object storage, databases, Kubernetes and the various networking/DNS services that are necessary to use the aforementioned. We don't use anything exotic",
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1nq8tk5
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Built a EC2 & VM price comparator to save my own sanity
|
I work as a cloud engineer for a big bank firm in Europe, my job basically consists on conducting proof of concepts for any new tools that we have to implement in our infrastructure so I spent all of my time deploying EKS/AKS clusters and EC2/VMs instances here an there.
I basically got tired of juggling to find the cheapest but still capable EC2 type in the CLI for each test while keeping performance decent. So I built a small site that lets me quickly compare EC2 instance families and prices side-by-side. I did not expect to make it public to be honest, but I thought it could help a fellow devops colleage struggling like I was at the beginning.
It’s minimal—no logo, no cookie banner—, let me know if you guys want any new functionality, I will try to implement it asap when I have some free time. There is also an AMI and VM image search tool. Reserved prices and savings plan are next on the roadmap, let me know what you think. [cloudpylon.com](http://cloudpylon.com)
ps: It is deployed on a 3 dollar hetzner server so it might feel a bit slow at times :)
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"author": "OverclockingUnicorn",
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"body": "Why's it better than https://instances.vantage.sh/?",
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"body": "I felt that was too bloated with much information that I did not need, just to sort for spot prices I had to scroll all the way to the right on the table, and If I do that I lose track of the instance name on the second column. \n\nAlso when I clicked onto an instance it has no price comparison between regions, which is the main use case I am looking for, just find the cheapest one across all AWS regions.",
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1nq86lx
|
[Free Course] Complete GitHub Actions Course — From Beginner to Pro!
|
Hi folks! —
I just released the latest course in my DevOps Beginner to Pro series, this one focused on GitHub Actions!
- Video: https://youtu.be/Xwpi0ITkL3U
- Companion Repo: https://github.com/sidpalas/devops-directive-github-actions-course/tree/main
The course is 3.75hrs long and covers:
- History and motivation for Continuous Integration
- Why GitHub Actions?
- Core platform features
- Advanced platform features
- Consuming GitHub Actions Marketplace actions
- Authoring first-party actions
- Common automation workflows
- Improving the developer experience
- Best practices for using GitHub Actions
- An end-to-end capstone project
Check it out and let me know what you think!
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1nq2mtz
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4M+ outages logged in 2024 — but 39% of orgs still had downtime in the last 30 days
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According to data collected by Robotalp, , 2024 was rough:
4 million+ outage events were recorded
1M+ total hours of downtime
Black Friday was the worst day — systems just couldn’t handle the traffic
Slowest recorded response time: 83.56 seconds
While many organizations managed to stay online consistently, about 39% still experienced at least one outage in just the last 30 days of the year.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nq2mtz/4m_outages_logged_in_2024_but_39_of_orgs_still/
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"author": "PelicanPop",
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"body": "Respectfully, is this an attempt at trying to start a discussion?",
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"body": "Probably a bad try at promoting his robotalp product",
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"body": "I actually just wanted to present our data, but it seems that hardly anyone cares… Sad.",
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1nq125z
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Deployed MERN app on AWS EC2 – Frontend works, but backend not accessible externally
|
Hi everyone,
I’m learning AWS by deploying a **MERN full-stack project** on an **EC2 Linux instance**, but I’m stuck with the backend. Here’s what I’ve done so far:
1. Launched an **AWS EC2 instance** (Linux) and connected via SSH.
2. Installed **Node.js** (same version as local).
3. Cloned both frontend and backend repos.
4. **Frontend setup:**
* `npm install` → `npm run build`
* Installed **Nginx**, enabled service
* Copied build files to `/var/www/html`
* Opened inbound rules for ports **80, 443, 7777**
* Frontend works fine on public IP
5. **Backend setup:**
* `npm install` → `npm start`
* Works fine with `curl` [`http://localhost:7777/`](http://localhost:7777/) and `curl` [`http://13.60.42.60:7777/`](http://13.60.42.60:7777/) inside EC2
* But when I try [`http://13.60.42.60:7777/`](http://13.60.42.60:7777/) in my browser (local machine), it doesn’t load
* Tried running with **PM2** → still the same issue
# What I expected
My backend should be reachable at [`http://13.60.42.60:7777/`](http://13.60.42.60:7777/) from my local machine.
# What actually happens
* Works locally inside EC2 with `curl`
* Not accessible externally from browser
I’ve repeated this process 3 times with the same result.
Does anyone know what I might be missing? Could it be related to binding `localhost` vs [`0.0.0.0`](http://0.0.0.0), security groups, or something else?
Thanks in advance! 🙏
Edit: working now issue resolve i'll set proxy for that in nginx and then try to access in my browser and it's wokring
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"author": "majesticace4",
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"body": "Your backend Node.js server is probably bound to `localhost` only. Change the host binding in your `app.listen` (or equivalent) to `0.0.0.0` so it listens on all interfaces:\n\n```js\napp.listen(7777, \"0.0.0.0\", () => {\n console.log(\"Server running on port 7777\");\n});\n```\n\nSince you already opened the port in the security group, this should make it accessible externally.",
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"author": "zeal_swan",
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"body": "have you opened the port in the security groups?",
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"author": "GeorgeRNorfolk",
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"body": "You can check to see if you can access the backend from within the VPC by creating a second EC2 and running a curl against the private IP of the host EC2.",
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"author": "FlounderMysterious10",
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"body": "Im assuming 13.60.42.60 is ur machine ip, can u post the screenshot of output for netstat -anp | grep 7777",
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"author": "Cool_Palpitation9096",
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"body": "Done this already",
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"body": "and what is the behaviour you get when accessing from the browser. timeout or any errer",
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"body": "ubuntu@ip-172-31-41-244:\\~$ netstat -anp | grep 7777\n\n(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info\n\n will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)\n\ntcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:7777 0.0.0.0:\\* LISTEN 3427/node",
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"author": "Cool_Palpitation9096",
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"body": "don't know how to post a picture i can't see any option",
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"body": "Yups i opened the port in security groups\nI’ll get timout error in browser",
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"author": "FlounderMysterious10",
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"body": "Seems to be a security group issue then, also try (telnet 13.60.42.50 7777) to see if the ip and port is reachable if not u can confirm its a security grp issue",
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"author": "zeal_swan",
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"body": "And wait. Why are you trying to connect to the backend from outside the ec2? Is there something in the backend that shows something like html or something when / is accessed?",
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"body": "ubuntu@ip-172-31-41-244:\\~$ telnet [13.60.42.60](http://13.60.42.60) 7777\n\nTrying 13.60.42.60...\n\nConnected to 13.60.42.60.\n\nEscape character is '\\^\\]'.",
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"is_submitter": true,
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"author": "zeal_swan",
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"body": "Have you tried the same on your local? Whats the response or output there. \n\nSounds like development problem instead of devops",
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"author": "Cool_Palpitation9096",
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"body": "No, i just do that to check if my backend is working or not",
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"author": "FlounderMysterious10",
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"body": "So its reachable, could u try curl http://13.60.42.60:7777/ and see if it returns same value as what u get inside ec2 if u do curl",
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"body": "Think of it this way, what would any browser request to your backend give. Nothing. So youre getting just that",
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"body": "PS C:\\\\Users\\\\dell> curl [http://13.60.42.60:7777/](http://13.60.42.60:7777/)\n\ncurl : Unable to connect to the remote server\n\nAt line:1 char:1\n\n\\+ curl [http://13.60.42.60:7777/](http://13.60.42.60:7777/)\n\n\\+ \\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\\~\n\n\\+ CategoryInfo : InvalidOperation: (System.Net.HttpWebRequest:HttpWebRequest) \\[Invoke-WebRequest\\], WebExc\n\n eption\n\n\\+ FullyQualifiedErrorId : WebCmdletWebResponseException,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.InvokeWebRequestCommand\n\n\n\nget this in my local machine",
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"body": "Hey I tested it from my browsert and got\nDevConnect backend is running as output",
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"body": "ohh on that [http://13.60.42.60:7777/](http://13.60.42.60:7777/)? \nit's strange, now it's working on my also when i set a proxy in nginx for [http://13.60.42.60:7777/](http://13.60.42.60:7777/) to /api",
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Should backend-to-database connections use SSL if proxy already has SSL?
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If my backend is running behind a reverse proxy (e.g., Traefik/Nginx) that already has SSL/TLS enabled for client traffic, do I still need to enable SSL/TLS on the database connection between the backend and the database server considering when in Docker-compose or K8s the database is running on internal network therefore not exposed to the outside traffic?
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"author": "m39583",
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"body": "In theory any more security/encryption is good but the problem is the PKI/certificate management for all the backend systems. You would probably need an internal root CA that signed all the certificates and then you need a way to rotate the certs etc. It's a total ballache and risks a major outage if you drop a ball and a certificate expires. For it to be viable it needs to be fully automated and that is a significant engineering effort.\n\nWe compromised, and used self signed long lived (50 year) certificates for backend internal traffic. That gives you encryption which prevents someone that can sniff the traffic from reading the data. In theory being self signed means you don't get the authenticity of the remote system, but an attacker would need to compromise your DNS or routing in order to divert traffic rather than just sniff it to attack that.",
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"author": "nooneinparticular246",
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"body": "Lots of weird advice and cargo culting here. Just do a quick threat model with the team and make your own call.",
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"body": "It's a good idea even then. If I'm an attacker and got access to a container on the same network as the db, if it's not encrypted I have a chance to get the credentials to your database by sniffing the traffic. If it's encrypted I cannot do that.\n\nIt's a tiny threat, but mitigating that threat is not hard as well.",
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"author": "roiki11",
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"body": "Your biggest guide should be compliance. \n\nBut the effort to use it is pretty minimal so why shouldn't you. It's another security layer.",
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"body": "In my experience, if you're using managed databases, SSL/TLS is built in and free. There's no reason I wouldn't use it. \n\nIf you're self-hosting, ask yourself if the cost of managing the SSL is worth it. If the answer is yes, then go for it. It's not a huge overhead so I would default to yes being the answer",
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"body": "Yes. Defense in depth ",
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"author": "NotesOfCliff",
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"body": "It wasn't that long ago that people thought this way in business. No TLS or relaxed permissions when exclusively on internal networks.\n\n\nWe have since learned that defense is best implemented in layers. The goal is to slow down any potential attack as much as possible.\n\n\nArchitecture decisions like TLS everywhere cost very little, but make each step of an attack more difficult and time consuming.\n\n\nYou should also be scoping permissions to only what is needed. Processes should not be owned by root and a bunch of other best practices.\n\n\nGood luck out there.",
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"body": "Yes, all connections should be encrypted",
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"author": "j0holo",
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"body": "It is still a best practice even when your k8s nodes have an encrypted network. It is required if you are running in the cloud.",
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"author": "Hale-at-Sea",
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"body": "If the backend and database are effectively running point to point, then it's not really necessary. I recommend setting SSL up anyway if possible, because there's no guarantee the app's network environment will stay closed off forever. \n\nIt's also much easier to tell auditors \"all of the network traffic is encrypted\" rather than have to explain why some connections are fine without it",
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"author": "mb2m",
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"body": "The trade-off: What is more harmful? A hacker that gets into the local network and can possibly capture unencrypted database traffic or that your application is down because of errors caused by the encryption between backend and db (cert renewal failed, …).",
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"author": "Fresh-Secretary6815",
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"body": "Hey man, super simple question here: is this an intRAnet or intERnet facing app?",
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"author": "vlad_h",
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"body": "It’s not necessary but it’s a good practice regardless to use SSL everywhere so you don’t slip somewhere where it matters. Most traffic now goes through SSL by default.",
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"author": "McBun2023",
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"body": "in our company we are trying to make everything encrypted, even if we are far from it",
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"author": "m_adduci",
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"body": "If you don't trust the platform where your services are running, encryption in transit is highly recommended.\n\nIf you have a trustful host, you could skip TLS from backend to database or thing about using a proxy such as PgBouncer (if you use Postgres) and let the backend communicate over TLS with it and then use a plain connection between pgbouncer and the database.",
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"author": "joeyignorant",
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"body": "i would if it makes sense to do so unencrypted traffic even internally can be sniffed , \nsay your backend gets hit with a supply chain now you have a bad actor inside your internal network \nall that data is exposed to be sniffed or altered \nusing a self signed cert with an inter root CA is free or even use an ACME cert",
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"author": "dobesv",
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"body": "It depends on whether the service and database are running in an environment where network snooping by other processes is theoretically possible. If you're in a network where it's just your service and the database maybe it's not worth it. \n\nSometimes you're running in an environment where network traffic is automatically encrypted at a lower level, e.g wire guard, in which case you don't need it.",
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"author": "complead",
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"body": "Running SSL/TLS on db connections, even with a reverse proxy handling SSL, adds a security layer that can deter insiders or compromised systems within your internal network. Yes, certificate management is a hassle, but automating it minimizes risks and overhead long-term. Think about future flexibility if your infrastructure evolves. SSL might seem redundant now, but it can prevent surprises later, especially as tech stacks grow or move.",
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"body": "one the same node, maybe, cross node, cross zone? prob not.",
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"author": "fr6nco",
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"body": "On Kube, cert-manager or any service mesh can do this easily for you. \n\n\nIf not on Kube, vault + consul-template can help you",
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"body": "It’s really just not that difficult. I’ve done this with OpenSSL, mTLS for Keycloak + PostgreSql + Nginx. Everything is in containers. Certs rotate every 88 days in a B/G deployment model so if a cert error bubbles up, the traffic is redirected to a current valid cert path given that my hard rotation requirement is 90 days. System design has infinite tradeoffs and is overwhelming at times but at some point you just need to pull the trigger.",
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"author": "endre_szabo",
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"body": "that's right, talk to compliance, infosec, industry regulatory bodies",
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"body": "thank you",
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"author": "xagarth",
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"body": "This is not a thing.\n\nWould you care to elaborate on how would you accomplish this?\n\nYou do realise that traffic between containers do not go through arbitrary containers, right? So, given you have access to B, traffic from A to C is not visible to you.\n\nThat's for starters.\n\n\nIf an attacker would gain access to an application container, they don't have to sniff traffic they'll just get credentials from the app config or whatever.\n\nEncrypting traffic is always a good idea but, it requires resources and imposes quite an overhead.\nFor private networks and intercluster coms, the benefit is almost non-existent, as if attacker has admin access, they can extract certs, keys, secrets, and everything.",
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"author": "dashingThroughSnow12",
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"body": "How is a random container sniffing traffic?\n\nDid they escalate to host access? In which case, they can probably sniff the TLS cert too.",
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"author": "MartinMystikJonas",
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"body": "How would you sniff traffic of another container?",
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"author": "zynasis",
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"body": "Can’t sniff traffic like this on modern hyper visor environments",
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"author": "virtualGain_",
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"body": "Personally I say just use self signed certs ultimately having encryption is way better than not a self-signed cert only really leaves you vulnerable to a man in the middle attack at least you're not just blindly trusting your hosting provider not to sniff your traffic at that point",
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"author": "Prod_Is_For_Testing",
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"body": "> There's no reason I wouldn't use it.\n\nIt adds significant overhead to each connection and can cause performance issues ",
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"author": "nooneinparticular246",
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"body": "“It is required” what? AWS’s PCI DSS guidance explicitly calls out that VPC traffic is point to point and can’t be sniffed, meaning encryption in transit isn’t always necessary",
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"author": "carsncode",
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"body": "A risk model that examines only impact and not likelihood has no value",
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"body": "It's a cloud native configuration setup where the database runs internally therefore not exposed to the outside world while the server interacts with clients behind a reverse proxy over TLS",
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"body": "Not true in many cases, but yes, internal pods or enclosed namespaces can forego encryption under the assumption that the security zone is otherwise encrypted.",
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"body": "I disagree. SSL is cheap to implement and defense at every level is a must. You will fail so many audits if you have unencrypted connections regardless of if it’s public.\n\nYou need to assume your network is compromised if you want to create a quality solution.",
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"body": "What?",
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"author": "carsncode",
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"body": ">Your backend and your database should be in their own isolated network with no outsides access (no egress, no ingress from other networks).\n\nThat'll certainly protect it from getting any connections from your frontend. As long as you don't need anything to be functional, it'll be very secure.",
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"body": "Use a CLM, pretty straight forward",
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"author": "carsncode",
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"body": "Imagine spending a hundred man hours making the world's most trivial decision... It's free, the overhead is small, anybody coming to Reddit for advice should just turn it on and be done with it",
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"body": "Good TLS protocols are safe from sniffing.",
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"body": "There really is no threat of the attack working exactly as he described if a network device hasn't been breached that is routing the traffic over to that container. The real concern is that all the network devices that traffic goes across can sniff the credentials which means you just have to blindly trust your hosting provider or whoever has access to that Network gear\n\nThere are certain compliance requirements that don't allow you to trust your hosting provider but if you don't fall into any of those categories like HIPAA for example then it's up to you whether or not you need to encrypt that traffic",
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"body": "It's true but hasn't been relevant for any business I've worked with in the last decade. What does that truly resolve to mean? Probably <1s of latency for a connection which should be reused in a pool in most platforms.\n\nYou're totally right, it just doesn't really form a consideration for most platforms that don't have a considerable scale.",
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"body": "It depends. The biggest overhead exists when establishing a connection- if you aren't doing that in the hot path you are probably not going to notice it. i.e if you just maintain a pool of healthy connections and aren't making a new connection to the db while your apps client is waiting for a response. \n\nIf you are making connections in the hot path, the biggest overhead is often the increase in round trips over the network. Those matter much less in a fast internal network. They also can be optimized with tls session resumption and 0rtt in tls1.3\n\nOutside of connection establishment there is still some overhead, but encryption can be offloaded to the kernel.",
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"body": "Do you have any data to back that up? What is \"significant overhead\"? In what circumstances is TLS the cause of performance issues? What performance issues does it cause?",
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"author": "virtualGain_",
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"body": "Yea this requires you to trust AWS and just expect there isn't some clown engineer that goes Rogue one day in the thousands of Engineers that they employ",
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"body": "No everybody is running on AWS and have virtual private network enabled correctly. But fair, now only AWS can sniff on your data.",
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"author": "Fresh-Secretary6815",
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"body": "So a containerized BFF setup?",
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"body": "Yeah, but no. It's not necessary that it would take a hundred man hours to decide this on every org. I agree it's not something anyone should be asking on reddit.\n\n\nedit: I'd argue you'd get in trouble if something like this would take a hundred man hours to decide and you just \"turn it on\"",
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"body": "Commenting on Should backend-to-database connections use SSL if proxy already has SSL? Free? Cpu resources do matter? And depending on the database, and usage this could be a lot more costly than free.. but if he means backend servers then it may have benefit vs same..",
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"author": "dashingThroughSnow12",
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"body": "Ram sniffing?",
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"author": "Randolpho",
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"body": "And they totally promise not to — unless it’s necessary",
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"author": "Svarotslav",
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"body": "Generally with inter-container communication where you don't have external access it is done using a bridge, where you have a virtual ethernet connection with pipes the data out of the container into the bridge, and then from another virtual ethernet connection from the bridge into the other container and landing on it's virtual ethernet interface.\n\nThere's also a question about if someone or something is in or manages to enter that namespace, the packets are not encrypted.\n\nYou also have the enshitification factor where an app becomes more than something to be run on a single host or somehting else changes and all of a sudden it is moved to a different environment. Like a container..... and someone forgets to turn on SSL. \n\n \nThe threat might be small, but it is a vulnerability and there are a huge amount of actors out there who will be trying to find attack surfaces like that.",
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"author": "endre_szabo",
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"body": "so you argue against a service mesh but you put database passwords in environment variables?\n\noh boy",
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"author": "carsncode",
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"body": "It's really easy for the comment I replied to: \n\n>that's right, talk to compliance, infosec, industry regulatory bodies\n\nTo total a couple dozen man-hours. A hundred was just hyperbole.",
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"body": "The reverse proxy having SSL is unrelated to the DB connection using SSL. It's a red herring. The CPU overhead is negligible and if OP is asking Reddit about this instead of a security team, they're not likely to be operating at a scale where the extra CPU cost makes any difference.",
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"body": "If you rooted the server where the database or the application is at the level of being able to sniff RAM of other processes/users, then your data is already compromised, TLS or no.",
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"body": "Hijacking a container and pivoting is wildly different than being able to privilege escalate. What even is this question?",
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"body": "Why do people forget this?",
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"body": "I’m glad we agree.",
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"author": "dashingThroughSnow12",
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"body": "What type of pivoting are you talking about?\n\nThe root of this conversation is talking about sniffing other containers’ traffic from a compromised pod.\n\nTo do that, one may do a host pivot (break out of the container into a privileged state in the host node). At that point when one has access to start reading other containers’ sockets to look at their traffic, it isn’t that far of a stretch to think you have enough access to inspect their ram.\n\nFrom my limited understanding (and I do emphasize limited), the type of attack where a compromised container can start sniffing other containers’ traffic basically means game over in some way.",
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"author": "vikinick",
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"body": "If the compromised container is on the same network as a container that connects to the database, the compromised container can pretty easily record all traffic on that network. And if the traffic is not encrypted on the backend (like OP's question), it will be sending credentials over plaintext.",
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"author": "dashingThroughSnow12",
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"body": "How? Genuinely want to know.",
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"author": "zomiaen",
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"body": "The containers lives within their own network namespace, however, they can't just sniff the wire.\n\nYou need to get root to break out. That's why we run rootless containers as a security best practice.\n\nUnless of course the container is running on host networking, or has been given extended capabilities/is running as a privileged container. Which for the most part, should never done on a container that's exposed in a manner that could get it pwned, and avoided as much as possible any other time.",
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I'm currently looking to change jobs due to an impending return to office mandate. I've been proactively applying for roles for around 3 months and am struggling to find anything. Are my salary expectations too high?
I'm currently on ~£65k with 2 yrs DevOps, 2 yrs Platform Engineering and 15 yrs in infra roles prior to that. Ideally looking for a remote role on at least a matching salary. The main thing I want rn is stability. Feedback from the one interview I've had so far is that there were some knowledge "gaps" based on my salary expectations. Have rates dropped over the last 2 years or do I just need to brush up?
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"author": "spicypixel",
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"body": "Yes they’ve dropped lot.\n\nI’d be taking a 30k haircut to leave my role as it stands.\n\nI regularly keep an eye on the market both from a hiring manager perspective and job seeker and it’s definitely flatlined at best.\n\nOn the roles where the money hasn’t notably dropped the expectations in experience and seniority went up instead.\n\nIt’s title deflation and given the title inflation for years I’m not fully sold it’s a bad thing yet.",
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"author": "Individual-Heat-7000",
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"body": "£65k for that mix of infra + DevOps + platform doesn’t sound crazy at all, but a lot of companies have tightened budgets and are more picky now. Remote roles especially get tons of applicants, so they can afford to nitpick on “gaps.” Might be worth brushing up on the latest tooling/cloud trends and being flexible on salary for the right fit, then negotiate up once you’re in. Stability > max comp in this market.",
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"author": "InfraScaler",
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"body": "I mean it's going to depend a lot based on what those 15yrs of \"infra roles\" mean. If those are \"15 years of doing the same you learn in 1 year\" then you are on the high band for juniors and 65k is a bit too much. If those 15 years gave you skills like in depth\\*\\* OS/networking knowledge then you could be around 100k. \n\nWhat knowledge gaps where highlighted?\n\n \n\\*\\*really in depth, down to OS internals, not \"I use Linux at home and update some conf files with vim\" depth.",
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"author": "CanaryWundaboy",
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"body": "Feel like I’m in golden handcuffs at the moment, if I look to leave my current role it’s an instant £40k drop. Might as well stay where I am and bide my time.",
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"author": "Redmilo666",
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"body": "I’ve 6 years experience in London for a decent sized company at £60k. Few and far between for higher salaries it seems unless you move into principle engineer territory. Or management",
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"author": "Nize",
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"body": "That's an expensive hair cut!",
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"author": "No_Engineer6255",
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"body": "Would have been at least 150k and 250k+ by US standards for 17 years of experience but lol , good ol capitalism in EU",
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"body": "I progressed to 3rd line support, mostly carrying out cloud migrations, working for managed service providers, etc. My experience with Linux was limited and I've been mostly Windows based. That has changed since the move to DevOps but I still have a lot to learn on that side... I'm enjoying the ride much more in this area though.",
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"body": "How much is in-depth though?",
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"body": "Deeply unpleasant at that",
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"author": "InfraScaler",
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"body": "One thing that I always found funny is that many people think \"support = little knowledge\" when it's the actual opposite. 3rd line support sometimes knows more about their product than the actual developers. It's crazy!",
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"author": "InfraScaler",
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"body": "It means you don’t just know how to run commands or configure services, but you understand how the kernel itself works. Someone with Linux internals knowledge can explain what really happens when a process is created, how memory gets mapped and reclaimed, why a syscall blocks or wakes up, or how packets travel through the networking stack before they ever hit user space. It’s about knowing the mechanics of scheduling, memory, filesystems, drivers, and synchronization at the level the kernel implements them, not just the abstractions exposed to users.",
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"author": "crytek2025",
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"body": "Got it, thanks. Can I DM you sometime?",
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"author": "a-sad-dev",
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"body": "Where's the best place to learn linux internals as someone who's very comfortable with linux user space but hasn't dove deep into the kernel?",
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"author": "InfraScaler",
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"body": "Sure!",
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"author": "InfraScaler",
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"body": "I don't think there is a *best* place (happy to hear other's opinions to discover new stuff). In my case it is the result of many years of problem-solving that required looking up specific stuff, and at some point the pieces of the puzzle start clicking with each other.\n\nNowadays it could be interesting to start asking a good LLM about these topics. Start at high level, like what is \"scheduling\" in the context of Linux. It'll spill a bunch of information and at that point you can ask further specific questions about what the LLM is telling you. Having general knowledge about foundational topics will give you a far greater understanding of any issues/scenarios as your brain will immediately add those variables to context, then you'll dig deeper into specifics.",
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1nptobe
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Dockerhub is down
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Update: it's back now, all systems operational.
TL;DR:
Docker Hub is partially down (mainly auth + registry + web). They know the issue and are working on it.
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TheDevDex
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/r/devops/comments/1nptobe/dockerhub_is_down/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1nptobe/dockerhub_is_down/
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"author": "wysiatilmao",
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"body": "If you're running into issues like this again, it might help to set up a local Docker registry for redundancy. It can provide a useful backup and speed up CI workflows. You can sync it with Docker Hub periodically to keep it updated.",
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"author": "JagerAntlerite7",
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"body": "🤣😂😅🥲😭\n\nIt _wasn't_ just me!\n\nAssumed rate limits.",
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"author": "TheDevDex",
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"body": "https://www.dockerstatus.com/",
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{
"author": "TheDevDex",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Update: it's back now, all systems operational.",
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"post_id": "1nptobe",
"score": 2,
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},
{
"author": "Reeces_Pieces",
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"body": "I spent way too much time thinking something else was wrong after a power outage today....\n\n\nFfs",
"created_utc": 1758768546,
"id": "ng299aa",
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"parent_id": null,
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{
"author": "trick-host-",
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"body": "🤔😮😜😢😭😂😁😉😆",
"created_utc": 1758780744,
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"author": "gaelfr38",
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"body": "This.\n\nI can't believe this is not the default setup.",
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"author": "nrmitchi",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Same",
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"is_submitter": false,
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"author": "glimitzu",
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"body": "We shall not discuss the time spent trying to figure out why I had sudden errors sigh",
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1npprpa
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Is environment setup still one of the biggest pains in reproducing ML research?
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Awkward-Plane-2020
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2025-09-26T10:37:48.072324
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"author": "zemega",
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"body": "Because researchers were never trained on dev ops. Or at least have any idea about it.\n\n\nSimply telling them about how to operationalise their code is sometimes enough to nudge them to write more operational code. Also ask them to use tools like MakinaRocks Link, or marimo, is enough to make them realise how spaghetti their codes are. Which leads to better codes.\n\n\nSeriously, walk them through uv and marimo. For everyone sake. They write better reproducible code. You get codes that are much easier to operationalise.",
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1npnqut
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SQL Indexing for Real-World Performance: What Every DevOps Engineer Should Know
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As DevOps engineers, we often focus on CI/CD, automation, and infrastructure — but database performance can become a hidden bottleneck in production.
I recently made a beginner-friendly breakdown of SQL indexing that keeps it simple, visual, and practical:
Heap tables – what happens when no clustered index exists
Clustered indexes – how data is physically ordered and retrieved
Non-clustered indexes – when to use them and how they reference the table
Stored Procedure Lookups – real performance examples that show why indexing matters in production
👉 The goal: make indexing easy to understand for people who don’t live inside SQL every day, but still need to keep systems running fast and reliable.
Video link here: https://youtu.be/cDiCp64V-uQ?si=qCKHn0hyGd_ID5MM
Would love to hear how you approach database optimization in your DevOps workflow (monitoring, tuning, automation, etc.)
| 0 | 0.37 | 3 | 1,758,747,242 |
Dry_Razzmatazz5798
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/r/devops/comments/1npnqut/sql_indexing_for_realworld_performance_what_every/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1npnqut/sql_indexing_for_realworld_performance_what_every/
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2025-09-26T10:37:49.234493
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"author": "Owlstorm",
"awards": 0,
"body": "I had a look.\n\nI think the demo missed key fundamentals.\nBroad things like the tradeoffs of adding indexes, how to benchmark performance, knowing when an index is needed, and what makes a good index.\n\nWithout knowing *why*, somebody watching the video and cargo-cult style adding an index is probably doing more harm than good.\n\nThese are good demos:\n\nhttps://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sql/relational-databases/sql-server-index-design-guide\n\nhttps://use-the-index-luke.com",
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"author": "ninetofivedev",
"awards": 0,
"body": "LinkedIn AI slop.",
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{
"author": "llitz",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Freaking emojis, it looks like AI studied MLM guidelines",
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1npktxx
|
Good DevOps projects for practice?
|
So I'm looking for any open source DevOps project that is fully functional but lacks all DevOps tools (pipelines, K8s files, docker files, ...). I want to use the given project as a way to demonstrate my knowledge of these tools by adding them to build the app further from CI to monitoring.
| 5 | 0.78 | 5 | 1,758,740,447 |
MediumGlittering7505
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/r/devops/comments/1npktxx/good_devops_projects_for_practice/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1npktxx/good_devops_projects_for_practice/
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2025-09-26T10:37:50.363021
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"author": "chinmay185",
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"body": "Check https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/microservices-demo and practice writing ci cd and k8s manifests and otel monitoring",
"created_utc": 1758761427,
"id": "ng1pmqo",
"is_submitter": false,
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"score": 3,
"stickied": false
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{
"author": "sandin0",
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"body": "Ask ChatGPT to make one for you and save the solution to a file but don’t read the file until the end or also ask it to add instructions with hints and you solve.",
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"score": 3,
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},
{
"author": "DevOps_Sar",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Take the RealWorld \"Medium clone\" app, containerize it, add CI/CD, deploy on K8s, and hook up monitoring/logging.",
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"post_id": "1npktxx",
"score": 1,
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1npha6u
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The $7 Trillion Delusion: Was Sam Altman the First Real Case of ChatGPT Psychosis?
|
SS: Super interesting and semi-satirical article that just popped up in my feed, makes me wonder what happend to this entire 7 trillion ordeal. I think its very very relevant to ask and understand how the people in charge interact with AI. The article touches on many current issues surrounding the psychological and by extension societal impact of AI, and I think it has multiple points that will spark an interesting discussion. The article brings a new angle to this topic and connects some very interesting dots about the AI bubble and how AI delusions might be affecting decisions. [https://medium.com/@adan.nygaard/the-7-trillion-delusion-was-sam-altman-the-first-real-case-of-chatgpt-psychosis-949b6d89ec55](https://medium.com/@adan.nygaard/the-7-trillion-delusion-was-sam-altman-the-first-real-case-of-chatgpt-psychosis-949b6d89ec55)
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EinStubentiger
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/r/devops/comments/1npha6u/the_7_trillion_delusion_was_sam_altman_the_first/
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2025-09-26T10:37:51.557357
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"author": "Skriblos",
"awards": 0,
"body": "This artical gets fundamental points wrong. \"What if Sam Altman didn’t just build the product...\" he didnt. Sam Altman didnt build shit, just hype.\n\n\n“Delusional.” - that pretty much means the person has lost it. If you are acting delusional you are acting wrongly and on top of that incapable of changing.\n\n\n\"...briliant CEO...\" you are delusional.",
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"author": "ares623",
"awards": 0,
"body": "Hard to believe a psychopath to be manipulated like that.",
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"author": "leetrout",
"awards": 0,
"body": "I've for years held that Google is operating on an AI driven playbook.",
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"score": 1,
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1npeylo
|
Hetzner doesn't offer Managed databases (PostgreSQL) on CCX23. What Can I do?
|
Hello everyone, I'm sorry I'm not very familiar with DevOps, so excuse me if I don't know what I'm talking about.
I need to host a Laravel app, with a PostgreSQL database, Redis, and Grafana for monitoring.
So far, I've come to understand that my low-cost robust options are limited (max 25$ per month), and it seems that if I want a good performance for my application with a low response time, I should go with CCX23 (dedicated CPU).
My understanding is that I can allocate 10-12 GB of RAM for the app, and the rest for Grafana and Redis.
But Hetzner doesn't offer managed databases with the Hetzner Cloud VPS.
Are there any better options to host this App, and its database effectively in order to avoid any resource-related issues in the first year of the application (first year most likely ending in 500 users at an RPS of 200, 70% of which are reads).
I will be implementing caching and many other strategies with OPcache, Gzip... but I just want to host this application effectively for now.
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Punk_Saint
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/r/devops/comments/1npeylo/hetzner_doesnt_offer_managed_databases_postgresql/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comments/1npeylo/hetzner_doesnt_offer_managed_databases_postgresql/
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"author": "BrocoLeeOnReddit",
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"body": "Is high availability mandatory? Because if so, you won't be happy with Hetzner unless you build a cluster of at least three VMs for your DB. But the same would also apply to your app and monitoring so my guess is that at the moment, you don't really need HA. Just host everything on one VM (ideally each component containerized) and make regular backups and monitor if you push performance limits.\n\nDeploying PostgreSQL in a container is really easy and well documented.\n\nYou could write a compose.yml for your entire application stack (aka all the services you need), run `docker compose up -d` and Bob's your uncle.",
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"author": "aghost_7",
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"body": "How many users are you expecting to have? If its just a few (e.g., side project), consider going serverless route.",
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"id": "nfynkyb",
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"author": "anonveggy",
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"body": "I don't know what happened to this sub that people here are throwing absolutely money burning abysmal advice around.\n\nYes, you can absolutely serve 250 people an App on a CCX23. Just set yourself up the docker compose environment since you've already said dockerized. \n\nI really don't know why other's have said that HA clustering is required - your requirements are absolutely fine for a single deployment of postgres (might I add that SQLite will absolutely also work - most people distrust it because it's not a server but in a lot of scenarios SQLite absolutely shits on all these server RDBMS performance and ease of use wise - don't know how well laravel interacts with it tho) - most likely it's gonna be the app that's going to have availability issues not the DB. \n\nUntil the app has actual maturity it really is laughable to yank OP around with HA stuff.\n\nAs for the serverless suggestions - please waste someone else's development time, performance and upkeep cost. Go \nBack to your consultancy job and go sell some snake oil somewhere else.\n\nTo OP: easy is fast, cheap and great to build upon. Don't let yourself be frightened by what the devops world has come to consider normal and standard practice. Most times it just cost ineffective self-indulgence.\n\nJust make sure you set the VM up with some security in mind. Depending on your environment - if you need to expose that machine to the outside make sure that less is more. Don't be exposing DB ports to the outside. When push comes to shove you can use cloudflare tunnels for a cheap and relatively secure reverse proxy.",
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"author": "Impressive_Ad1188",
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"body": "Taking into consideration only the context you have provided, CCX23 should be more than enough to host your application comfortably, given that your expected workload is read heavy, caching and query tuning could take you very far with those server specs.",
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"body": "If high availability is needed, you might look into a cloud provider that offers managed PostgreSQL and Redis services. While Hetzner is cost-effective, platforms like DigitalOcean or AWS can offer managed solutions within your $25 budget, especially if you optimize resource allocation and use their free tier or discounted rates. This might save you time on DB management and ensure performance stability as your user base grows.",
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"body": "Digitalocean, aiven.io, OVH and I'm sure others provide managed pg and refis/valkey, which sounds like what you want. Aws/gcp/azure all have some kv store to pair with a manage pg as well",
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"body": "If you aren't fixated on Postgres I would suggest Sqlite. Given your expected load this should work without problems. With Litestream you'll get db replication to e.g. s3 compatible storage, for which you can use Hetzner's offering. Disaster recovery is quite easy with litestream. This setup would be really cheap and above all quite simple to manage.",
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"body": "Run self hosted docker containers for db and redis and take a backup on regular basis. Keep them in a remote storage. Also there are some free tier Postgres on various providers that can be used initially in the given budget.",
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"body": "Use [Cloudnative Postgres](https://cloudnative-pg.io/)!",
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"body": "Hi OP, You might consider cross-posting this in the unofficial r/hetzner subreddit. There are a lot of long-time users there who may be able to give you some more tips. In the meantime, you might also want to look at this page: [https://github.com/hetznercloud/awesome-hcloud](https://github.com/hetznercloud/awesome-hcloud) \\--Katie",
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"body": "If you can't or don't want to self host PG on Hetzner, there is a variety of managed offerings which run PG on Hetzner. \nMost of them require a cluster though and don't run on a single instance which is also being used for other means. \n\nAlso you don't need a dedicated VPS for good PG performance.",
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"body": "Thank you very much. I already have everything in my local environment dockerized; I just never took care of deployments because an old coworker used to, and now it's fallen on me after he left. \n \nWhat can I do in the case of wanting high availability?",
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"body": "For the first year, we have a waitlist of about 200 users so far. It's not a side project, it's for a client.",
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"author": "Punk_Saint",
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"body": "In the end everyone was giving helpful advice, no matter my situation, they were all viable solutions. I want to thank everyone for that first... but I'm aware of over-engineering as well in the development world and was wondering whether that's the same case in the devops world as well.\n\nFrom the many solid advices I got, many stand out like yours where it was just to use docker and backup my stuff. that was my original concern but many of you have eased my mind that it's the right choice and I have to stop being anxious and just go through it.\n\nThank you very much, I really appreciate all the help I got in this subreddit and specifically to you for showing me the simple smart way to do it.",
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"body": "okayy thank you, that eases my mind a bit.",
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"body": "I saw this earlier, can you explain it a bit more please if you don't mind. Is it like a plugin?",
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"body": "High availability without managed services like on Azure, AWS or GCP is a bit more complicated. I guess you chose Hetzner for privacy reasons?\n\nTo be perfectly honest with you, you won't be able to achieve HA on Hetzner while sticking to your budget, you wouldn't even manage to do so with a Cloud Provider and a managed DB if you want to host your entire stack.\n\nFor example, to have a highly available DB cluster self hosted, you'd need at least three machines (VMs or bare metal) because you need quorum (feel free to look up what that means). But if you want your entire stack highly available and containerized, you won't get around a container orchestrator like Kubernetes or OpenShift or a complicated bare metal setup.\n\nPersonally, given your budget constraints, I'd just stick to a single machine and a fairly simple Docker compose setup and make frequent database backups because if your application were mission critical, your company would allot you a way higher budget.",
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"body": "Its going to be pretty difficult to have something which is robust on just 25$. We might have different definitions of robust, but to me that means having redundancy.",
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"body": "I kind of assumed you were using kubernetes, so if not you can ignore me. But cnpg is an operator for kubernetes that manages Postgres dbs. It can take care of clustering, replication, backups , storage and most other aspects of run g a db. It really make running Postgres in kubernetes super simple. In AWS I would prefer to run this over RDS, I haven’t run anything in hetzner, so I’m not sure if that translates.",
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"body": "I want to thank you for your response. It pretty much matches what i'm currently reading on devops. I'll start as you said slow, and go on from there...",
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"body": "25 max per month is just starting out, I'm definitely increasing that budget after 6 months of deployment for a backup with load balancing.",
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"body": "I have actually never considered Kubernetes for some reason, and I'm currently reading about it. I think it can help me greatly, thank you for mentioning this!",
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"body": "Selfhosted, high-availabilty kubernetes won't fit your budget and is not easy manage if you have no K8S experience.\n\nJust setup some docker containers and make regular backups of the DB. Much easier and enough for 500 users.",
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"body": "You might like this if you go hetzner + kubernetes:\n\nhttps://github.com/kube-hetzner/terraform-hcloud-kube-hetzner",
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"body": "Yeah that's what it seems like. Is there any best practice for backing up the database?",
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Second-guessing the feature-flag hype: looking for real DevOps pain points
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I’ve been thinikin recently of feature flag systems lately, trying to figure out where the real value is for DevOps teams vs what’s just imaginary problem. I’m toying with the idea of building something open-source/self-hosted (working name [FlagshipX.cloud](https://www.flagshipx.cloud/)), but right now it’s literally just notes on paper — no code, no prototype. Don’t wanna solve fake problems.
The rough idea: a UI-first tool you can self-host (or just use a dead-simple managed version), where every flag has an owner/intent/expiry baked in. Think lightweight (Postgres + stateless API, optional CDN snapshotting), typed flags (boolean/enum/JSON schema) so you don’t shoot yourself in the foot, proper audit trails and scoped perms, and delivery via signed snapshots so stuff keeps working offline.
What I’ve seen bite people (and honestly scares me) are things like: prod toggles with zero traceability, stale flags rotting in configs, dashboards drifting away from Git/IaC, outages because control plane died, or rollouts nuked because someone pushed the wrong targeting rules.
So I’m curious — for folks actually running flags in prod: what’s sucked the most for you?
* Ever been burned by LaunchDarkly/Unleash/Flagsmith/etc? What worked, what didn’t?
* Do you like Git-based configs or prefer a live dashboard?
* How do you keep flag cleanup/lifecycle sane?
* Any governance/policies you wish you had before things got messy?
Would love to hear some real war stories. Trying to sanity-check whether this idea is worth pursuing or if I should just shut up and use what’s out there.
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"body": "We use a custom feature flag process with a small AWS lambda API that gets/sets flag states and an internal UI that shows states and can be used to flip flags. \n\nIf we didn't have that internal capability to build it ourselves, I'd probably want a small open source API / UI I could self host in lambda.",
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"body": "AI slop",
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"author": "RoadsideCookie",
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"body": "How do standard configuration management practices fit in your solution?",
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"body": "> What problems have you hit\n\n\nNo problems using feature flags in production. Been using feature flags systems for over 15 years. Feature flags are a dead simple concept \n\n\n> How do you deal with flag cleanup and lifecycle?\n\n\nFlag cleanup is not needed.\n\n\n> Have you used LaunchDarkly / Unleash / Flagsmith / GrowthBook / Flipt or others? What worked, what didn’t?\n\n\nYes. All were effective at their task. We built in house config management solution after product matured for all feature flags to use across the ecosystem \n\n\n\n\n\n\n> Do you prefer Git-based flag configs or a live dashboard?\n\n\nThis is not a equivalent either/or choice, they are fundamentally different. You use both, and more.\n\n\n> What kinds of governance/policies would help your team avoid chaos?\n\n\nStandard configuration management solutions.",
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"author": "juliusz-cwiakalski",
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"body": "Thx for sharing u/GeorgeRNorfolk ! What made you develop your custom solution rather than using something off the shelf?\n\nAre you facing some real painpoints with your current solution?",
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"body": "And also - do you evaluate feature flags states on UI, backend or both?",
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"body": "I did not really plan to address standard configuration as of now. \n\nMy focus is on temporary code and settings that are in the product due to experiment and validation of feature/business idea. And governance of this temporary stuff so it does grow into messy tech debt. \n\nAnother key aspect I was focusing on was the successif roullout (1% of users/tenants -> 5% -> 20% etc)... \n\nDo you think this separation makes sense? Or you'd actually prefer to have single tool fro \"standard\" and \"temporary/feature\" configs?\n\nThx in advance for your thoughts on this u/RoadsideCookie",
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"body": "Thank you u/meowisaymiaou for sharhing perspective having 15 years of experience - it's super valuable!\n\nWould you mind going bit deeper? I'd love to understand your patterns.\n\n1. You mentioned that flags clanup is not needed. Does it mean you have only short lived flags and remove them just after release? Or maybe have some tooling that is clenaing it for you?\n\n2. OK, understand you tried several other tools. But what made you decide to implement your own after product matured? \n\n3. Yes, you are right. In my approach I was more focusing on release proces in a dynamic way (post deploy), not thinking hollisticly. Could you elaborate more what is your process and how you use git/dashboard/other approaches?\n\n4. When you say \"standard configuration mgmt solutions\" do you mean something like Ansible/Terraform? Or some kind of app layer configuration store?\n\nI'm trying to understand how teams evolve their approach to feature flags over time. Especially when they hit the scale - so any thoughts you'd share would be very appreciated (maybe you've fall into some pitfalls or have interesting lessons learned that others could benefit?).",
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"author": "StaticallyTypoed",
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"body": "Humans will read human written posts. If you write AI slop, don't expect anything but AI slop responses. Go ask chatgpt what it thinks",
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"body": "Maybe you (or your AI?) misunderstood the question. I'm talking about configuration management. There are standard practices and tools that make overarching feature flag systems unnecessary.\n\nAdd command line option to your application, use configuration management to set it programmatically using change control best practices (e.g.: GitOps).",
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"body": "AI responses are insulting.",
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"body": "I was trying to say, that I consider configuration management somehow orthogonal to the feature flags and product experiments. I'm thining of a solution more suitable for the product owners that can design some experiment, decide when to enable it and at what scale (what percentage of users etc). I could even imagine testing 3 or 4 concepts of the same solution at the same time on different cohort of users.\n\nI'm basically thinking of UI first solution so then no configuration change per se and no redeployment of backend services is required.\n\nThat's why I said I did not plan to address or replace standard management tools and practices. \n\nFor example GitOps does not fit from my perspective for this kind of experiments if you think of mobile or web apps running on thousands (or millions) of customers devices.",
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