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And when you look at Twilight Zone, you just see how spectacularly it's filmed.
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It's just miraculous.
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I think it's the most beautiful television show ever shot.
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What was one of your favorite Twilight Zone episodes?
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Oh, gosh.
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Well, you know, I love Walking Distance, which is Rod's farewell to his father.
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You know, his dad died when Rod was overseas in World War II, and he wasn't able to come to the funeral.
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And so this is a Twilight Zone episode where an executive walks back to his hometown.
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He finds himself in the past in his boyhood.
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And he wants to stay there, and his father has to tell him that he has to go back to his time and find happiness there.
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But that was really Rod finally having a goodbye to his father, to have that last moment with his father that he so longed for.
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And so that's a great episode.
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But there's so many.
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I mean, I think any Twilight Zone episode you're going to get value from, Nightmare at 20,000 Feet, The Gremlin on a Wing, or that great Bill and Romy episode with wishing people to the cornfield.
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I mean—
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it's funny because when Bill and I are working together on space command, he'll, he'll say, Oh, be careful.
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I'll wish you to the cornfield, you know, and, uh, and he can do it.
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One of mine, you, as you well know, to serve man.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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A great episode.
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And, uh, it's, it's wonderful.
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Richard Keel, who later played the character jaws, the villain jaws and the James Bond movies played all of the aliens in that film in that episode.
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And he was, uh,
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great and has one of the greatest twist endings of any Twilight Zone episode.
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What were they called?
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Cannamites or something like that?
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Cannamites, yeah.
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I think it's a play on cannibal.
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And it's Damon Knight, who was a great short story writer.
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and who instantly bought my first short story.
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He wrote that story when his wife was out with another man, and Rod read the story and bought it and adapted it to Twilight Zone.
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So I interviewed Damon when I wrote The Twilight Zone Companion.
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Mark, Hollywood is going through a tremendous metamorphosis these days.
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What's happening?
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Yes, well, you know, I think it's a mixture of different...
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elements.
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You know, I think that in some cases, Hollywood, you go to movies and they're like the same old thing, the same old thing.
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It's hard to see something that's original every now and then you find something.
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But also, it's so easy now for people to shoot their own films, to shoot their own TV shows and movies.
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I mean, I have my own channel on YouTube that reaches around the world.
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I have millions of views, over 100,000 subscribers.
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And I think people, if you want to have your own voice, and it's exactly what Rod was talking about back in
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In the 50s, he created Twilight Zone to avoid censorship.
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If he were here now, he'd probably be mounting Kickstarter campaigns.
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He'd be doing what I was doing because I have total freedom now.
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But I have no interest in working for the studios and the networks because I don't need their guidance, quote-unquote, to make my work a disaster.
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I can make it the way I want it.
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I can cast who I want.
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It's very easy.
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It's total artistic control, which I really love having.
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And you could do it cheaper, can't you?
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Yes, much cheaper, yes.
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What cost the studios millions, we can do for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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And the fun part is, one thing I learned from Rod that was so invaluable, he shot Twilight Zone at MGM, and he had access to every prop, every costume, every set, everything MGM ever made.
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So you'll see tons of stuff from Forbidden Planet and Twilight Zone, or you'll see them shooting an episode on the Andy Hardy street on the MGM backlot.
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So I did the same thing when I was at Sliders on the Universal lot.
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And now that I'm doing Space Command, whenever a big budget science fiction TV show or movie ends, a lot of those props and costumes and sets come on the market, come up for auction.
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I can buy them pennies on the dollar.
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So that's added to what we design and build from scratch, and it gives us much more production value.
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And so if you go on my three sound stages, you see we have like 30 spacesuits from the original Twilight Zone and from Prometheus.
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We have sets from Ender's Game and all sorts of movies and TV shows.
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It's like a museum, but it also allows us to work very, very effectively.
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And it's just a sheer joy.
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And we're having a party, George, January 1st in our studio.
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And any of your coast-to-coast team is certainly welcome, including you and Tom and everybody, of course.
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And it's just such a joy to be able to share all of this with everyone, you know.
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And I love making television.
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It's my favorite art form.
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Well, you should check in with us because we're going to be on the air January 1st, Mark.
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You know, we work all the holidays, my friend.
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Well, you're just a hard-working man, George, and you're the best, and that's why you've lasted...
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so long, you know, it's a quality doesn't always rise to the top, but I always celebrate it when it does.
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What are your thoughts on streaming?
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What, what, uh, where are you headed with that?
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Well, the challenge of course, is finding, finding quality.
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There's so much of everything, you know, there's infinite channels, you know, and, uh, so that's a problem.
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The good part is that you can watch whatever you want to see whenever you want to see it, but there's just such a,
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such an enormous amount of content being made that to find the quality things is hard.
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And so you really have to know who to listen to and whose guidance to seek and not just watch anything that comes on because your mind will turn to mush.
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So it's very fun to have my own YouTube channel, Mr. Sci-Fi, because I can sort of talk about Twilight Zone.
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I can talk about Star Trek.
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I can share different episodes of TV that I've written in the past or that I'm doing now.
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But my favorite network, frankly, is YouTube because so many old TV movies and rarities are on YouTube.
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You can find things that you never thought you'd see again.
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And I love that aspect of it.
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But Netflix, I think, has some of the qualities gone down.
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There's a lot of shows where I watch and I just go, boy, they really dropped the ball on that one.
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And I think it's because they're just making them too fast.
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They're not putting enough of their heart and soul into it.
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You really have to treat it like an art form, as Sterling did, as Ray Bradbury did, all of our favorites.
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And when you put quality in, it laughs.
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Many of the shows I wrote in my 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s, people are still watching now and loving.
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It was funny.
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I was, I was out the other day, uh, and a homeless guy complimented me on the deep space nine episode I wrote.
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You're amazing.
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Yes.
KVOW
2024-12-26T05:30:00
WY
SPEAKER_12
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He said that far beyond the stars.
KVOW
2024-12-26T05:30:00
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SPEAKER_12
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That was a great episode.
KVOW
2024-12-26T05:30:00
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It's like, wow.
KVOW
2024-12-26T05:30:00
WY
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