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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
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And of course, Happy Hanukkah to everybody.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Thank you.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I got to tell you, my 23-year-old granddaughter has got her commercial pilot's license and within another year or two has been offered a job with the major airlines to be a pilot.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Isn't that something?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Congratulations a thousand times over.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,183.49
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Isn't that great?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Where did she study, George?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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What city?
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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She started in the St.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Louis area and then went abroad, and she just loved it.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Isn't that great?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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She was thinking of going into the Navy as a pilot and decided just to go to college and get her degree first, and that's what she did.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Isn't that fantastic?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,208.448
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That will give the spirit of St.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Louis a second meeting to you and the family, right?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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You got that right.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Little Kaya.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Give me your thoughts.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Howard, give me your thoughts on gambling.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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What is the problem gambler?
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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What does that mean?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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You know, I hear your question, and I sigh heavily, like my late dad would do in his chair and go, you know, that answer is so long, but it could be shortened in a few simple, easy-to-understand sentences.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I'm one of the few gambling therapists, George, out there that really does not hammer the world of gambling.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I don't smash the world of gambling at all.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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It's all about our own behavior and taking our own position about not overdoing things.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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It's there to stay.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Gambling is absolutely not going anywhere.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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And if we abuse the world of gambling, which I did...
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And once again, I say that publicly now in front of three-plus million listeners and family and friends of mine that's listening.
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I abused it.
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And that's when the gambling community gets themselves into trouble.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Gambling itself can be as much fun as having a drink or two with your partner once or twice a week.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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It's a vice, but it's a vice that many people enjoy.
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But when we start abusing the vices, that's when the trouble starts, George.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Does the problem gambler, Howard, know when to stop?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Well, I can only speak for myself firsthand, in first person, and I did not.
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I did not know when to stop.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I never thought it was enough.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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And, you know, we always have an adage as us gamblers, and I say us gamblers,
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I don't consider myself a sick gambler anymore, thank God, but there was only two ways that gambling would go.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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If you lost, invariably, you would go back the next day and try and make your money back, and some.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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And then, of course, the opposite was when you won, you would say to yourself, that was easy, and then you'd go back, and then, of course, you would lose.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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So much like the government, they're not going anywhere.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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They're not going anywhere.
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and many people still think they have the proverbial system, which doesn't exist.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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The only ones that really make money in the casino business are the casino operators or the small few, and it is a small few, that do in fact know when to leave when they've made a couple of bucks or, as I've mentioned on your show but a year ago when I was on, that if you do want to go now and again to have fun,
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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knowing you're going to never see the few hundred bucks again ever, no different than going to a show, going to a ball game, or going out for a nice dinner.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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That's what it's all about.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Losing control, losing yourself in a casino, losing yourself online, that's when the trouble begins.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,408.221
And I don't blame the casino industry.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,411.522
I think they've done an incredible job of marketing.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,412.482
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And it took a while for me to
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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to take blame upon myself but I do and I think that anybody that has lost himself in the world of gambling should just blame himself if that makes sense.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I'm not trying to be hard on anybody but the casinos aren't going anywhere as I said.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Were you a problem gambler from the get-go?
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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No, I wasn't.
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2024-12-27T05:00:00
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As a matter of fact, I've mentioned a few times that my dad owned racehorses, and I used to go pretty much every weekend in the season and feed the horses and watch the races, not really knowing what I was doing when I was seven, eight, nine years old, and would see men primarily betting, winning, losing, swearing, drinking, seemed to look like fun.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
290
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And that really didn't catch me, but I sort of knew what gambling and betting was all about.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
291
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But it was really, really when I went to Atlantic City with my ex-wife for the first time with my parents.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
292
1,483.309
1,486.832
And this is not to blame my parents, let me be perfectly clear.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
293
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I had a great time, and I think, George, that's when I got the bug, which was very quietly more than 45 years ago.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I was enamored.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,498.549
Not just with the gambling.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I happen to fall in the game of blackjack, not just for the money, although when you win, the money is great, of course, but I love the math behind it.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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No different than people could love the game of baseball, the brilliance behind the actual game.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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I love the game of blackjack.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,517.143
1,518.204
Yeah, I love it.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
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1,524.149
What if you go with the idea of losing and you have a certain amount of money with you?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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If you go with $200 in your pocket and you kiss each $100 bill goodbye before you get in the car and go to the casino, I think that's a great attitude to go with.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Know your limits.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Matter of fact, I forget which casino has that as their mantra.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
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Know your limit, live within it, which is pretty clever.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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If you're going to do that, then again, I repeat, there's nothing wrong with that.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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But the problem is, George, invariably now,
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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People have their debit cards.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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They have their credit cards.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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At some of the larger casinos, you can have a credit line established prior to you getting there.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
310
1,564.284
1,566.004
And that's when the trouble begins.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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311
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1,567.785
Sort of like a buffet.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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312
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1,569.285
You want to go once or twice.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
313
1,569.305
1,570.826
That's okay.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
314
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1,574.987
But when you're in line for the 19th time, you might have a problem.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
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Everything in moderation, right?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,577.468
Everything.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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In moderation is a definition to every individual, isn't it?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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You're right.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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Well said.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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But to your question of a minute ago, when you talked about when you know if you're a problem gambler, if you're going to go, as I said, to the casino or online and gamble with a fixed amount of money and know that win or lose, that's it, then again, it's no different than any other form of entertainment.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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321
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Knowing you're going to go to the finest steakhouse in the city with a fine bottle of wine, you know you're going to be in
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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322
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for a few hundred dollars.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
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323
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You're going to enjoy your night with your partner.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
324
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You're going to come home and all you'll have from the dinner is either a tummy ache and a receipt.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
325
1,622.573
1,623.794
But the money's gone, right?
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
326
1,624.094
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That's it.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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327
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It should be the same with gambling.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
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1,626.696
1,628.697
It should absolutely be the same with gambling.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
329
1,629.197
1,641.404
If you can know that you leave your home knowing that the money that you put aside to gamble for that evening or that daytime is not going to come home in your pocket, then I think that's a terrific way to go.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
330
1,642.011
1,653.676
But unfortunately, 4%, 5%, 6% of the population, and I use that number because that's the figure the government normally puts out, between 4% and 7%, those are the people that have the problem.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
331
1,654.377
1,655.337
Let's reverse it.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_00
332
1,655.857
1,663.441
That also means about 95% of those that do go to the casino don't have a problem, enjoy going for the right reasons.
KVOW
2024-12-27T05:00:00
WY
SPEAKER_04