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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 175 | 915.239 | 923.325 |
We speak at least five times a week, even if it's to check in with each other or tell each other a ridiculous joke or talk about baseball.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 176 | 924.846 | 928.748 |
We never let 36 hours go without speaking to each other.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 177 | 929.469 | 930.33 |
He was behind me.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 178 | 930.97 | 933.352 |
He waited for me to apologize, which I did.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 179 | 934.012 | 937.434 |
He waited for me to apologize to everybody that I heard around me, which I did.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 180 | 938.055 | 940.296 |
And I repeat, the rest, as I say, is history.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 181 | 940.357 | 941.798 |
But it wasn't easy, George.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 182 | 942.278 | 943.739 |
And anybody listening right now,
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 183 | 944.431 | 957.354 |
to your listeners, anybody going through what I went through before I had help, I beg you, I urge you, I ask you ever so politely to put up your hand, speak up, speak out.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 184 | 958.294 | 964.695 |
People do want to help, but you have to either ask for it or be honest.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 185 | 965.255 | 966.716 |
It's not just going to always come to you.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 186 | 966.956 | 972.497 |
I was exceptionally lucky with the family that I had and that I still have today.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 187 | 973.328 | 974.829 |
But not everybody is that lucky.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 188 | 976.39 | 978.751 |
How many problem gamblers are in denial?
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 189 | 981.252 | 987.635 |
Oh, God, I have to say that any problem gambler at the beginning are all in denial.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 190 | 987.836 | 998.121 |
And again, I go back to myself in first person that it's so hard to explain when you're going through a horrific addiction.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 191 | 998.741 | 1,002.123 |
And deep down, and I'd like to think that I'm not...
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 192 | 1,002.89 | 1,006.492 |
I mean, I may not be Albert Einstein, but I'm also not the dumbest guy in the block.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 193 | 1,007.092 | 1,021.079 |
I had to have known, and I think about this often, George, I had to have known that I had a problem, but somehow that thought process went away, and I kept on doing what I'm doing.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 194 | 1,021.579 | 1,030.423 |
So I think at the beginning, until you feel pain, be it with your family, be it at work, be it in your bank account,
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 195 | 1,031.337 | 1,037.179 |
I think everybody goes through denial until the point when it begins to hurt you.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 196 | 1,037.739 | 1,041.36 |
And hurt comes in all different ways, right?
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 197 | 1,043.321 | 1,059.066 |
And when it begins to alter your life and Tuesday wasn't the same as Monday and Monday wasn't the same as Sunday and your relationship with your family wasn't the same as it was a month ago, then you have to either change your ways or
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 198 | 1,060.612 | 1,067.476 |
You are living in denial because, again, I repeat, I think anybody and everybody must know when they're doing something wrong.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 199 | 1,068.257 | 1,076.822 |
And it just takes that little moment in time, that little moment in time when we finally reach our breaking point.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 200 | 1,076.882 | 1,087.528 |
And with me, it was sitting in my brother's living room in his home in Beverly Hills when I knew facing the family and I knew that it was up.
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 201 | 1,088.482 | 1,094.886 |
The word denial just left my body, and I had a whole new process that I had to go through.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 202 | 1,095.307 | 1,099.71 |
It was a new project that I had to live through and work at.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 203 | 1,100.71 | 1,109.556 |
So to answer your question, I think everybody's in denial until such time, George, as it begins to hurt your life, if that makes sense.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 204 | 1,109.976 | 1,114.92 |
Could you go at this point to Vegas, sit at a blackjack table, have a little fun, and get up and leave? 1,000%.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 205 | 1,118.806 | 1,121.748 |
And I'm not saying 900%, 1,000% or more.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 206 | 1,122.309 | 1,129.694 |
Again, when Billy comes home to Montreal a couple of times a year, we live the old days.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 207 | 1,129.714 | 1,133.637 |
We used to take my mom and dad when they were alive to the casino and have dinner.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 208 | 1,134.258 | 1,135.038 |
I sit with Billy.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 209 | 1,135.539 | 1,138.521 |
He plays his $100 or $50 in the Kino machine.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 210 | 1,139.061 | 1,141.583 |
I have my one, two, or three Diet Cokes.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 211 | 1,142.043 | 1,143.264 |
I watch the world go by.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 212 | 1,143.284 | 1,145.326 |
I say hello to everybody I know.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 213 | 1,146.131 | 1,159.555 |
And I literally, and I want to say this very, very politely, it's not that I couldn't care less, but I have such a different take on the building that we call the casino than I used to have that it's not remotely.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 214 | 1,160.876 | 1,162.756 |
It's literally black and white, George.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 215 | 1,162.856 | 1,163.657 |
It's not the same.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 216 | 1,163.697 | 1,173.5 |
So to answer your question, as a matter of fact, I've been trying to get to Vegas and meet Billy in Vegas, and maybe this show will promote us to finally go one of these fine days.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 217 | 1,174.2 | 1,174.8 |
I'd love to go.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 218 | 1,175.405 | 1,176.005 |
Absolutely.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 219 | 1,176.626 | 1,178.147 |
But it's very simple.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 220 | 1,178.187 | 1,183.629 |
If you're not going to go with a gazillion dollars on you that you can't lose, then there's no harm.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 221 | 1,184.03 | 1,184.45 |
Why not?
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 222 | 1,184.87 | 1,186.391 |
I still love the game of blackjack.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 223 | 1,186.871 | 1,197.257 |
As a matter of fact, I consult for a lovely, lovely casino that is, for those of you who may not know, I'm in Montreal, Canada.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 224 | 1,197.937 | 1,201.419 |
And halfway between Montreal and Quebec City is a city called Three Rivers.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 225 | 1,201.439 | 1,203.56 |
It's about an hour and a half drive from Montreal.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 226 | 1,204.355 | 1,207.296 |
And I consult for this casino in Waldenac, Quebec.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 227 | 1,207.336 | 1,208.416 |
It's a native casino.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 228 | 1,209.176 | 1,224.62 |
And I consult for them for this sole reason that the people who run the casino, the general manager and the operation manager, and I'll give a quick shout-out to Carl and JF, the guys that run the casino, they walk the walk and they talk the talk.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 229 | 1,224.66 | 1,225.98 |
They care about the customer.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 230 | 1,226.64 | 1,230.081 |
And nobody gets hurt in their casino if they should see that.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 231 | 1,230.421 | 1,233.302 |
And my job is to keep the casino basically clean.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 232 | 1,233.888 | 1,235.888 |
If anybody has a problem, I'm there.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 233 | 1,236.429 | 1,243.45 |
Meaning that I'm in the casino now more than I used to be when I gambled, which is comical.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 234 | 1,244.09 | 1,248.552 |
You know, families hire me, George, to watch their partner who might be lying.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 235 | 1,249.112 | 1,250.012 |
I'm given a picture.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 236 | 1,250.492 | 1,253.653 |
Please see if you can see John at the casino.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 237 | 1,253.733 | 1,255.233 |
So I go in, blah, blah, blah.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 238 | 1,255.633 | 1,262.715 |
So I literally spend more time in casinos now than I ever did in the throes of me having a sickness.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 239 | 1,263.594 | 1,267.255 |
And I just look at it completely differently, obviously.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 240 | 1,267.875 | 1,271.856 |
I'm comfortable, but it's a whole different world.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 241 | 1,272.136 | 1,287.68 |
The idea of going in, George, and blowing the kinds of money that I did in what I call the old days, 25-plus years ago, sickens me, revolts me, disgusts me, and there's no interest at all.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 242 | 1,288.08 | 1,288.26 |
None.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 243 | 1,288.66 | 1,288.84 |
None.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 244 | 1,289.72 | 1,292.121 |
What is it about addictive gambling...
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 245 | 1,293.393 | 1,294.594 |
That happens to people.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 246 | 1,294.874 | 1,296.035 |
What are they looking for?
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 247 | 1,297.376 | 1,316.292 |
I think the average, well, not the average person, I think the 5%, 6%, or 7%, George, that are the addictive gamblers, I think what they're looking at is they want all the money in the building, which is not going to happen unless you're Steve, you win, or you own the casino, or you're the operator.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 248 | 1,316.672 | 1,318.974 |
And look what happened to good old Steve.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 249 | 1,319.815 | 1,320.695 |
Well, exactly.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 250 | 1,320.916 | 1,321.396 |
Exactly.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 251 | 1,321.707 | 1,323.788 |
That's a whole other story, absolutely.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 252 | 1,324.248 | 1,326.45 |
And it can't be done.
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 253 | 1,327.21 | 1,332.893 |
You know, people who have the problem, they have 40 chips in front of them.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 254 | 1,333.633 | 1,334.374 |
George, they want 60.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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| 255 | 1,334.734 | 1,336.955 |
They have 60 chips in front of them.
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 256 | 1,337.075 | 1,337.515 |
They want 80.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 257 | 1,337.735 | 1,339.356 |
It's never enough.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 258 | 1,339.957 | 1,350.042 |
And therein lies the problem, that it's never enough, which goes back to the beginning of our conversation almost 50 minutes ago about being greedy.
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| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
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SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 259 | 1,350.717 | 1,351.778 |
But wanting everything.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 260 | 1,352.318 | 1,353.459 |
Everything in moderation.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 261 | 1,353.9 | 1,357.923 |
And the problem is, I said before, they have a great marketing team.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 262 | 1,358.184 | 1,359.325 |
Most casinos do.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 263 | 1,360.486 | 1,364.309 |
And they lure you into the building, which is fine.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 264 | 1,365.07 | 1,367.692 |
No different than alcohol companies or...
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 265 | 1,368.129 | 1,370.711 |
Or celebrities that own tequila companies.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 266 | 1,370.891 | 1,373.994 |
Or retail companies trying to get you to buy their products.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_07
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 267 | 1,374.314 | 1,376.436 |
I mean, it's all the same.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 268 | 1,376.876 | 1,377.357 |
Exactly.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 269 | 1,377.417 | 1,379.438 |
I bought one thing on Amazon three weeks ago.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 270 | 1,379.478 | 1,380.859 |
I still get 98 ads a day.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 271 | 1,380.939 | 1,381.4 |
Exactly.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 272 | 1,381.56 | 1,382.04 |
Exactly.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 273 | 1,382.401 | 1,383.141 |
And that doesn't end.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
WY_KVOW_2024_12_27_05_30
| 274 | 1,383.201 | 1,384.062 |
And good luck to them.
|
KVOW
| 2024-12-27T05:30:00 |
WY
|
SPEAKER_03
|
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