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The following program is pre-recorded.
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Morning glory, America.
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Bonjour.
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Hi, Canada.
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I'm Hugh Hewitt.
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We're getting close to the end of the year, and we're not going to finish The Republic until next year.
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But we're at book eight, and I'm Hugh Hewitt.
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Dr. Larry Arnn is president of Hillsdale College.
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He joins us.
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There he is in his chair looking down.
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There's Dr. O'Toole, Daniel O'Toole.
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He is our Play-Doh expert.
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And we've been working our way back to you, babe, as they said in the Motown.
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We've been working our way to book eight.
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And I'm going to start with Dr. Arnn.
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All right.
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This much has been agreed, Glaucon.
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For a city that is going to be governed on a high level, women must be in common.
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Children and their entire education must be in common.
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And similarly, the practices in war and peace must be in common.
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And their kings must be those among them who have proved best in philosophy and with respect to war.
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Did he really get Glaucon to agree to that?
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Glaucon is excitable, yeah.
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But the problems emerge in a hurry, right?
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It's communism he's talking about.
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Yes, it is.
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Does he mean it?
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Because we know...
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what that life is like because we've seen it.
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And it's not happy for the people who run it, right?
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Because that's all they do.
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They're trying to control everything about people.
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Would a philosopher want to live like that?
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And, you know, it's... And so when you...
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The beauty of, Leo Strauss refers to political philosophy as the highest form of the mating of courage and moderation.
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Why both?
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Because you have to be prepared to think about anything.
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And, you know, like, let's abolish the family.
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Make the women in common.
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Anything that violates nature, that does.
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And if the women, then the children.
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And you have to be prepared to think about that.
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But you should probably think that all the way through.
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And you should stop.
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I should really ask Victor Davis Hanson this, but I'm going to ask Professor O'Toole.
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Isn't this Sparta?
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Isn't this pretty close to what Sparta actually was?
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Yeah, I like to say it's Sparta on steroids.
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I mean, you take the problem in Sparta, for instance, this comes out in book eight, is that there's a kind of secret oligarchic underbelly, which is that the leading men who are supposed to be
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equal citizens, peers within the city, are, of course, quietly hoarding up wealth and thinking about their lineage and handing down wealth to their sons and their family.
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So the radical thought in the republic is, well, how would you make men wholly committed to the common good
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and wholly committed to virtue, rightly understood, a kind of rational virtue, and not devoted to some separate good, that is, their own family.
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And how would you try to eliminate the natural source of factionalism within cities, which is, you know, the obvious tension is between the few and the many, the wealthy few and the many poor.
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And in a place like Sparta, that requires a massive base of slavery.
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How do you eliminate that normal?
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Yeah, there were drones everywhere.
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So, Dr. Arnn, it has always and everywhere been the case that when a regime falls quickly, most recently in Afghanistan, that the leaders of the regime get out of Dodge and they take, if not billions and hundreds of millions with them.
KVOW
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So what Plato is discussing here has never actually happened, has it?
KVOW
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Well,
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It depends on what you mean by what in particular about what he's discussing.
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Communism.
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You know, we've had...
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totalitarian states.
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I'm told that there are certain leading figures in Ukraine who have dachas in fancy places on the Mediterranean.
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And that's, you know, people are people.
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And if you give them unaccountable power, leaving out of account the few greatest,
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they're likely to abuse it and uh and if you have a class of people who are empowered to have unaccountable authority over others ultimately that will be abused and you know we have exceptions
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And we know the exceptions because they proved it.
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George Washington, Winston Churchill, in their lives significantly, bowed handsomely to the public will and put themselves in a position where they had to do that.
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And then they did it at moments of high glory, right?
KVOW
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Lincoln didn't get the chance to do that because they shot him.
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But there's little doubt that he would have.
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And those three people, modern examples, are too great to want unaccountable authority over others, partly because that's a lower life.
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But, you know, your average member of the nomenklatura in the Soviet Union or your average officer in the Gestapo in Nazi Germany
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Those were not reliable people.
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And they abused their authority.
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In fact, their authority was gathered on a principle of abuse.
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So the chairman of the Communist Party in China, Xi Jinping, is cracking down again on the princelings who've made too much money and are a threat to his power.
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They are the current best or worst version of this regime.
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And it still doesn't work, does it?
KVOW
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Well, the question whether China is stable now or not, there are signs that it's not.
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Correct.
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The question, will it work ultimately?
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If it could, that would mean that somehow human nature has been changed.
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And, you know, one of the people, his trial is going on right now, is Jimmy Lai.
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Yes.
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And Jimmy Lai was a Hong Kong resident who founded the Apple Daily and was a big-time journalist, and he's a super billionaire.
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And all he had to do was leave, and he wouldn't leave.
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And, you know, I'm told that he's become a devout Catholic, and he spends his days in prayer, and he's 80 years old.
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And friends of his hope that he will be let go so he doesn't die in prison.
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But this lives in an account of the trial in the Wall Street Journal yesterday.
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