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/r/pics/comments/7pzkfq/today_in_rotterdam_the_netherlands/
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[
"Are those all the poor politicians burning? :o",
"Sure looks like a no-go zone to me.",
"Great weather to stay in doors and fuck your partner ;)",
"I looked out the window in Leiden and couldn't see anything because of this fog. It was unexpected and irked me a bit. ",
"It was crazy foggy on in the Northeast US today too. ",
"This morning here in San Francisco was the foggiest I've seen in a loong time.. It felt like a literal blanket.",
"I've been to Rotterdam when I went on my bike trip! The architecture there is very interesting haha, I loved visiting this city more than Rome and many other popular cities. Also I felt like weed & edibles were cheaper there aswell (compared to Amsterdam)",
"Something something Bay Area cat blanket poem. ",
"That's a lot of pot ",
"This could be Rotterdam or anywhere, Liverpool or Rome...",
"Nope, definitely Rotterdam. ",
"Something something you vape something",
"The Erasmus Bridge is pretty distinctive. ",
"Looks like it could be a scene from blade runner. ",
"Ahh, a The Beautiful South reference.. Got it. :)",
"Yeah sure looks like the Rome skyline...",
"That's not the next line. ",
"I hope Bean is ok"
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Today in Rotterdam (the Netherlands)
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/r/pics/comments/7pznig/yeah_a_big_pepperoni_to_the_stadium/
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[
"\"Hello, Chief?\"",
"Tongue in cheek moment",
"/u/ManagerOfLove, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/ManagerOfLove&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7pznig/yeah_a_big_pepperoni_to_the_stadium/?context=10\\))"
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Yeah a big pepperoni to the stadium
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/r/pics/comments/7pzoq1/60_and_rainy_day_after_a_week_of_20_and_snow/
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[
"Yesterday morning there was close to 2 feet of snow on the ground. This is what it looks like 28 hours of rain and 40°-60° later. \n\nEdit: these temperatures are in Fahrenheit, not Celsius. I’m in America. My bad. ",
"beautiful",
"Are you in South Central PA? Here in Gettysburg it hit 65. High tomorrow is supposed to be 32. Then the teens.",
"Beautiful lol. ",
"Don't go in that gazebo. It will fuck you up.",
"I own it. Nothing wrong with it besides the fact a tree fell on it a few months back. ",
"SW Connecticut. High of 62° today. High of 32° tomorrow. ",
"At first blush, this is an ugly picture. The runoff stream is dirty, the muddy ground is covered in soggy, dead leaves and the flat, grey sky sits behind the tangle of bare-branched trees. And yet somehow, for some reason I can't put my finger on, it all comes together to make this striking, poignant scene.\n\nI'm stunned. I've never seen such an enchanting, beautiful picture of a filthy cold place.\n\nthis must be art.",
"Very elegantly put. Thank you. ",
"I just meant that it was demonstrably haunted.",
"Ha Gettysburg now I’ve seen everything.",
"Really? Glad I could help your mission.",
"Looks safe just go for it.",
"Do you rent this place out? Because I’d love to stay there a bit! Looks beautiful to me! In a “let’s go camping” kinda way. ",
"Looks like you hit the thing with a posterization filter or the \"needs more jpeg\" bot had a go at it. The scenery is nice, the quality of the picture is bad.",
"Oh. I wish that was true. Would add more character to it. ",
"Uhh just a screen shot from a iPhone 8+ 4k video. ",
"Unfortunately no. Might be a B&B in the future. ",
"Beautiful Alaska.",
"Find a left over Halloween ghost decortation and hang it in the gazebo.",
"It's backwards here in NE Ohio. Yesterday it was 64 with some rain. This morning, 54. This afternoon, 24. But the precipitation never stopped. Went from rain, to freezing rain, to sleet, to snow. Of course it didn't change to snow until after laying down at least a good 1/4-inch of ice first. \n\n6-10 inches of snow on the way over the next 12 hours or so\n\nLast week my kids school closed Thurs and Fri because it was too cold - 4 degrees with a wind chill of -15. I'm glad we had a brief warmup to melt the snow packed on my driveway",
"The high today here was 64. The high *tomorrow* is going to be in the mid 30's. Fucking crazy.",
"Here in Quebec near Ottawa, there's still a lot of snow, but much less than 2 days ago. It just got much colder this afternoon after being very warm this morning, and it is now snowing while it rained all morning and afternoon.",
"hey I'm in SW Conn too!",
"It’s the same here in Pa. ",
"Is there normally a creek there, or is this a new flow route?",
"I wanna live there ",
"Hang in the gazebo and murder teens.",
"Reminds me of a certain L4D2 map",
"On such bleak dark damp chilled to the bones days, meself does lift me head and give praise for another pint of Guinness and a blazing wood fire in the hearth..",
"It looks like a paint.",
"That's not a gazebo. ",
"Do you live in post-apocalyptic Rivendell?",
"All this lake effect snow here melted yesterday aside from the plow piles. Insane.",
"It's called composition.",
"Got the video uploaded anywhere? Would be cool to see in motion",
"I know man, such a weird day!\nSuch snow to no snow at warp speed. ",
"Nice photo!",
"Boy those leaves sure held on a long time into winter and all that snow didn’t even knock them off. Any idea the species (or even better got a shot of a leaf?)",
"I have no idea. Sorry. ",
"Hut, maybe. Gazebo, no. ",
"AKA: The perfect conditions for a flood.",
"Nature's diarrhea",
"Yeah that's definitely not Celsius.",
"Yeah it’s normally a nice waterfall that runs into a brook. But the crazy thing is that it was frozen yesterday. ",
"I live in Miami...have no idea what you’re talking about",
"Our snow piles are almost gone now. We got 13 inches on last Thursday.",
"Put a negative on that 20 and that’s me RN ",
"I think it's beautiful",
"I'm sure those are *not* Oaks, but as a side note, we have lots of Oaks that keep their leaves till early March, when spring winds come blowing through and blow them off just before the new leaves start emerging.\n\n",
"Upstate NY here, talk about 0 degrees (feels like -20 according to local weather) 2days ago. It was 60 today.",
"Working on posting it in the gif sub. I link it when it’s up. ",
"I feel your pain. I’m stationed up at FT Drum NY and we had -30° last week. Fortunately I’m home for a long weekend. ",
"Around my neck of the woods (Northern Michigan) oak & especially beech trees tend to hold onto their leaves through the winter. Those trees in the background look like they might be beech. ",
"I’m stationed at FT Drum but I’m home for a long weekend. So I know all about that. ",
"Welcome to the Midwest",
"Thanks, I'll be using this as inspiration for a scene in my fantasy novel!\n\nDon't worry, I'll credit you...",
"You must be in Michigan.",
"That explains the poor image quality then. 4k video is usually ~8 megapixels, but you posted a 3024x4032 image, so I don't know where you're getting that extra ~4 million pixels. Post a gifv of it or such, it'll probably look a lot better and hide the digital butchering the scenery received.",
"Opposite in Indiana. Was 60 yesterday with heavy rain, now 20s and heavy snow.",
"Waterbury here 😎",
"Gives me Bridge to Terabithia vibes. Beautiful. ",
"You should throw some of those bull shit fibonacci conch shells on the image to make your point that it is a master piece. Can't be a master piece with out bull shit fibonacci conch shells super imposed all over it.",
"Just your neighbor from Hanover checking in to say that this weather is dumb.",
"Im 99% sure they are american beech. Theyre one of a few marcescent species of tree in the north east",
"Hey- awesome locale... where is it?",
"Western Pa here. 10 am it was 60 degrees. It's currently 24 at 9:30 pm. ",
"For us it's 20° and snowing after a week of 60° and rain.",
"Wisconsin checking in. I cleaned out my garage wearing shorts yesterday when it was 59 degrees. \n\nI’m currently at work. It is 13 degrees and windy as fuuuuuuuuck. ",
"That place looks like a movie scene... So many possibilities for a movie scene here. Awesome. ",
"Well, I <3 your hut.",
"[finally got it posted. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/gif/comments/7q1s0g/melted_snow_and_heavy_flows/?st=JCCQQY0D&sh=dacd86cf) ",
"Op delivers! Thanks!",
"looks more like decomposition to me!",
"Me after I eat Taco Bell ",
"I'm from central CT. Our high for tomorrow is 48°F. That's weird that there is such a difference in the same state!",
"I didn't realize the bridge was there until third time looking",
"That looks incredible!!",
"one of my cars was parked on top of a snow plow mound out front of my house. i came home from work to it basically sitting in the middle of the street with no snow anywhere, and me looking like a douche\n\nthe great northeast ",
"I love the positioning of the cabin. Even with the unexpected weather, the stream seems to break right where the foundation lays. Must be quite tranquil when there's a nice slow flow.",
"Basically Michigan the last couple days...",
"Where ",
"So how haunted is that cabin?",
"Yes, beech trees. Leaves blow off with the March wind.",
"Not as haunted as I want it to be. Its just a room with a hot tub and tiki bar. ",
"You must be in Tennessee ",
"Not even close. ",
"What's that trippy gingerbread rot-house?",
"Pfffft. NWPA here. Went from 5 feet of snow to 2 days of rain and 55 degrees. Our town made national headlines! It then went from 55 to 19 in less than 6 hours. Our town is now a frozen island. Half the businesses are shut down, schools dismissed early and roads for shut down because they are under 2 ft of water, which is now frozen... ",
"R/cozyplaces",
"This looks like where they filmed the move Insomnia.",
"Where was this photo taken at?",
"Us too, expect the snow skipped us. ",
"Ha! I should take a picture of Minnesota! -5 degrees and snow after a day of mid 20s and 30s.",
"What does the steam look like when it's not flooded?",
"Wasn't it 30 degrees below freezing in Ottawa last week?",
"Yes it was!",
"Is there a subreddit for suspension bridge porn? Idk why but the look of em makes my nuts so hard",
"Near the Sound?",
"Reminds me of Michigan... ",
"Same. I live in central NY. 3 days ago it was 0 with -30 to -40 wind chill. Yesterday it was 60, and right now it's 17 and freeing rain.",
"\"Reticent Beauty\"",
"Y are you not speaking french... I confused.",
"Connecticut is beautiful. You're lucky to live there. If I ever move to the U.S., Connecticut or Virginia are my top picks.",
"River+time>foundation ",
"Looks like you found the Resident Evil 4 map in real life.",
"I thought the same. It looks like someone ran edge detect or something. But now knowing it was from a video, it's probably a combination of motion blur + compression artifacts",
"Looks much better in a video",
"For me it’s the smells, sounds, and humid, cool air that this picture brings to me. This reminds me of an excellent find when hiking. When you’re on a trail for the first time and come across a patch that is well-developed. Maybe out of necessity, maybe it was going to be part of a larger project, maybe someone just loved the spot.",
"Sorry :/",
"That structure looks a lot like a \"because we can\" type of plan.",
"Snow on Wednesday, at least for MA.",
"Omelette du fromage",
"http://i.imgur.com/tNJD6oY.gifv \n\n This is a kind reminder that in French we say \"omelette *au* fromage\" and not \"omelette _du_ fromage\". \n\n [Sorry Dexter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW3-9gdjYA)\n\n[Steve Martin](https://youtu.be/DOJDNChwgBw?t=2m49s) doesn't appear to be the most accurate French professor.",
"What a douche' ",
"Is that structure inhabited?",
"Ah! A fellow Michigander!",
"Was a hot tub/ tiki bar shack back in the 80s and 90s",
"It’s real bad :(",
"You better go check the creek, it's getting out of control.",
"I want to power wash your roof ",
"Where will you be when diarrhea hits?",
"Allentown here. So fucking bizarre to see these ups and downs.",
"You’re welcome and thanks!",
"Wow you’re famous now",
"Rock waterfall with minimal flow, if any. Only time it’s really flowing is spring when the snow melts and after a good rain. ",
"With a 30 year old hot tub that hasn’t been used in about 20 years. ",
"Where’s that located?",
"A reasonable next step.",
"Centralia PA checking in. Where the fuck did everybody go?",
"York here. I know the feeling. ",
"There's gonna be some sexing going on in your cabin in that fantasy novel. Really twisted stuff.",
"Exactly what I was thinking! OP says there's a hot tub inside, so all it really needs is some decent lighting and a black couch.",
"Littlestown here, I feel like my dog had to go out more then normal just so she could come back a mud covered mess each time.",
"IT was -8 like 5 days ago and now it's 60. ",
"Because the dead leaves are decomposing, haha.",
"Was just about to ask you if you are from Connecticut. Danbury here. Was pretty insane, wasn't it? ",
"We went the other way here, it was +10C (~50F) here at 11am this morning, and by 11pm it was -12C (~6F).",
"But what if it's an egg-free omelette and you actually make it out of cheese? The it would be an omelette of cheese, un omelette du fromage.\n\nHmm... actually thinking about it for a minute, cheese melted in a frying pan with bits of like bacon and green onion in it sounds kind of amazing.",
"http://i.imgur.com/tNJD6oY.gifv \n\n This is a kind reminder that in French we say \"omelette *au* fromage\" and not \"omelette _du_ fromage\". \n\n [Sorry Dexter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW3-9gdjYA)\n\n[Steve Martin](https://youtu.be/DOJDNChwgBw?t=2m49s) doesn't appear to be the most accurate French professor.",
"bad bot",
"Yeah. You know. International viral star, watch out. ",
"You need to fix that hot tub and get that place decked out!",
"Connecticut has some serious financial mismanagement issues that are going to drag down on our economy for the foreseeable future.\n\nWe're hemorrhaging large employers and skilled workers.",
"can i live in that cabin?",
"I studied botany in grad school and I had to look that one up (the word).\n\nOf course, now that I know it, I, like you, won’t be able to resist using it if given the opportunity. ",
"I wish he had a gazebo though",
"You need to fix up your house.\n\nLooks a bit drafty.",
"Um. Phrasing?",
"That's absolutely beautiful. It would also be a great picture to turn into a puzzle.",
"man that's a lot of deer piss",
"This is a mudslide waiting to happen.",
"If I ever travel to Connecticut can I visit this place? I just love this for some reason.",
"I don't don't understand these Imperials and their temperature measuring system.",
"Here in Alabama, we woke up to rain and temps around 70. Now it is windy and 26 degrees. If you are keeping score at home, that’s a mother loving 50 degree swing in one day. ",
"Wild!\nI️ was gonna assume you were up here in Michigan...we just had a few days of sunny and 60’s and today we got hit with -5 with wind chill...I️ don’t wanna talk about it",
"Is this your house? Envious ",
"Fuck you, stop sending all your shit across the lake. It was so warm and now there is currently a snowstorm outside and I dislike this very much. Stupid lake with your stupid freezing and your stupid wind and stupid snow, I never asked for 2 feet overnight lake Ontario, WHY DO YOU HATE ME?",
"Sounds like a Wisconsin style heart attack.",
"This really is a beautiful place op, where is it from? ",
"Yup Michigander here and after a couple days of 40° weather and rain we got a couple inches of snow and freezing temps. Surprisingly the roads were completely fine on my way to work",
"That's crazy, even the Sahara desert doesn't get that hot",
"Is that the set from Goonies?",
"The mist from the Susquehanna came in and took everyone away...",
"Holy shit... 60°? How are you not dead from that heat?\n\nOh wait, you're one of *those* people who use the Fahrenheit scale.",
"Do you have a photo of third place in summer/spring?",
"Same thing happened today in Massachusetts. There were snow banks piled up that I literally couldn't see over that are now completely melted.",
"Why does no one use units??",
"A fellow ~~michegander!~~ pretty much anywherer! ",
"Eastern PA. 64 when I went to bed 8 hours ago. 30 now. Supposed to be <10 when I go to bed tonight ",
"Same here in NC. 65 degrees yesterday and now it’s snowing. ",
"Better than those saying \"degree Kelvin\" ugh.\n\nAlso, they should use *proper* units.",
"If you can't figure out the units immediately upon looking at the picture, I don't know what to tell you. ",
"You got that roller skating arena though and that's pretty neat",
"Roller magic 😇",
"Yeah that's the place! So you guys have one thing going for you, unless holy Land counts",
"Holy Land has had a string of unfortunate events happen. A 16 year old girl was raped and killed under the cross like 2 or 3 years ago. Yeah. But the cross changes colors now. So there’s that.",
"Yeah I mean that's really all that matters I don't see why anything else would be an issue",
"Colorado here... could you send us some on that water please? Thank you. ",
"I was thinking WV but he said Connecticut.",
"That is a beautiful area you have there. ",
"No pic of the day before with 2ft of snow?\n",
"Hey, we just had this happen! Now it's freaking 20 again.",
"Who films portrait wtf?",
"Same thing happened here in MI. all the snow melted, it rained all day, now it’s 15° and snowing. Crazy. ",
"and then the next day it was 20 again with 2 inches of ice and snow lol",
"This just looks like the Cold Stream campaign on Left 4 Dead 2. Bringing up some memories. ",
"It's the trees. Trees are actually black magic sticks that make things pretty.",
"If they ever make a Goonies 2, this place should audition.",
"OMG!!! 60° must be intolerable. I thought it was only possible in the hottest deserts in the world.",
"Cotton mouth is causing droughts ",
"Ozarks?",
"Yeah you’re close. Sherman/Pawling border. ",
"I long for the day that VR has this degree of detail. "
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60° and rainy day after a week of 20° and snow.
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/r/pics/comments/7pzsqn/my_new_son_12_hours_later/
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[
"Congratulations! How's it feel to be a Dad?",
"Our*",
"\nCongratulations! What's his name?",
"I read it as if the Mom wrote it, I had to look back at the picture when you said dad haha",
"http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/children-carbon-footprint-climate-change-damage-having-kids-research-a7837961.html\n\nSometimes the downvotes are worth it. ",
"Great. He's number four. Everyone can do it, less can do it right. ",
"You are correct. I didn't do the work. ",
"Luke Paul. \n\nEdit - Why would you downvote my son's name?",
"Yep, I'll down vote that for you",
"And didn't feel the pain",
"Have you spoken to your parents about this? ",
"quick, someone invent a time machine and show this article to /u/Entropy_5's parents...",
"No time machine needed, I think he deserves a post-natal abortion.",
"Just my hand. Nothing like her. No pain meds. ",
"Trying get below 100k, eh?\n\n",
"you must be psychopath if you don't understand difference",
"Congrats, only recommendation is too do all the grinding for the next few weeks while the missus relaxes. All i did was offer plenty of drinks when she breastfed because it made her thirsty and did as much leg work as i could. Im sure you'll both be great parents ",
"Thank you. This is the third child she will have breastfeed out of four. It's going to be a long few weeks, our home flooded today while at the hospital. I do not have flood insurance so I'll have to pray the damage was not too bad. ",
"Two first names. We don't like that shit.",
"I hate two first names. It's just Luke, Paul is his middle name after by dead brother. I didn't put the last name because internet. ",
"Oh ok. Changed to upvote.",
"He grew up fast",
"Just read your comment about the flood..I hope it wasn't too bad man.. Congratulations on the baby boy, I hope you and your wife are doing well."
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My New Son. 12 hours later.
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/r/pics/comments/7pzu2m/middle_tennessee_today_gotta_love_winter_in_the/
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[
"This is what happens when its 60 and rainy one day...and sub freezing and sleeting the next.\n\n",
"I believe it’s all about road treatment. They don’t have the salt trucks that the north does. Whenever there is an untreated road in the north it looks the same way. ",
"I feel like the truckers should have known how to handle icy roads",
"most of em probably did but you can only drive as well as the cars around you and when a chain reaction starts with one of smaller cars it's pretty much impossible to stop. ",
"You guys are such horrible drivers the second there are even flurries. Worst job I ever had was doing vehicle recovery during the winter in middle Tennessee. There are so many ridiculous pileups like that, cars lining the ditches for miles, and people abandoning their vehicles if there’s so much as a couple inches of snow on the ground. \n\nThe last time I did a winter there I think it took us and all the other towing companies of middle Tennessee two weeks to clean all that shit up. ",
"They can. It’s everyone else there that sucks at driving when there’s any kind of snow or freezing rain. ",
"It was an untreated section of highway.\n\nNo sand, no salt.\n\nIt rained all day yesterday so they couldnt put anything down. Then the rain turned to sleet. \n\nSo basically there is an entire swath of the state that is one big sheet of ice or if you are lucky...its just a couple inches of slush. So you can drive if its just slush...but since we rarely get snow and ice, nobody knows how to drive on it. So even though its better than ice...its still dangerous as fuck.\n\nSoutherners driving on ice is essentially like watching someone ice skate for the first time. Most have no fucking clue what to do \n\nThis is why we all stock up before winter weather and then the city shuts down. \n\nNo sand/salt + no plows or vehicles to clear roads + idiots who cant drive in winter weather = Snowpacalypse\n\n\n\n\n",
"Salt?\n\nHell we’re lucky if they throw some sand on the overpasses.\n\n\n\n",
"Tell me about it.\n\nBut to be fair...when you live somewhere that doesnt get a lot of snow...and this is how most roads are when it does snow, most of us stay home.\n\nConsequently we never learn to drive in this shit\n",
"Yeah, before this round of warmer temps and rain we had two big storms hit back to back. Snowbanks from parking lots are taller than some buildings and they sometimes take until May to completely melt. I've walked through a forest trail, found snow on the ground and it was almost June.\n\n\nIt's kinda funny seeing southerners freak out at even an inch of snow when things don't start to shut down unless we start getting half a foot or more. Even then most people just deal with it and take it slower than normal."
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Middle Tennessee today. Gotta love winter in the south
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/r/pics/comments/7pzwaz/a_real_mercedes_benz_gclass_suspended_in_resin/
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[
"I see Techrax got into fine art",
"That's pretty neat.",
"How long would that last as a preserved item if it was exposed to the elements such as the sun, rain, wind and cold?",
"Jurassic Auto",
"Depends on the resin but I would say the UV damage from the sun would be the worst it would recieve until water starts freezing in the cracks. Still, the car might not be exposed for decades.",
"I thought that mosquito was in amber?",
"That was amber though, I'm assuming that this is a man made resin product, how long would that last.",
"Some day we hope to clone it.",
"Very resistant to scratches, but a bitch on the ice. ",
"why?",
"Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.",
"*Detroit show-goers will be treated to an over-sized art installment at the entrance of the NAIAS exhibition hall that features a 1979 280 GE encased in nearly 100,000 pounds of amber resin. Mercedes says the \"installation symbolizes the timelessness of the off-road legend and makes a conscious reference to the natural phenomenon of insects preserved in amber. Like their genetic material the DNA of the first G-Class has also been preserved and is handed down from generation to generation.\"*\n\nMercedes says this took 90 days to make.\n\n[Source](http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercedes-encases-1979-gclass-in-100000-pounds-of-resin-99528.html)",
"For what that G wagon was already worth, then add on top of that how much that amount of resin costs...I don't know, seems a shameful waste of money when you consider how many Taco Bell 50 cent tacos that could buy.",
"*because it's cool*",
"The only one that's never left it's owner stranded (multiple times).",
"Life, uh... finds a way.",
"https://i.imgur.com/AcK4Kt4.gifv",
"You're implying a group entirely composed of females will breed",
"But uh, there it is.",
"Marketing",
"$100K down the drain ",
"art",
"imagine being trapped in the car before it got dipped?",
"https://i.imgur.com/GT64skv.gifv",
"Resin is expensive as shit. I wonder who much the resin alone cost? I can see that much resin easily costing more than a new G-wagon. I don't know how much a gallon weighs but you're looking at $70+ for a decent mix. ",
"A million years from now, after our extinction, this will confuse some future archaeologists (whatever they may be).",
"Reminds me of fringe",
"Probably less than you'd get it for, bulk discount and all. ",
"Easy fix, just put Damien Hirst's name on it and bam, $30 million.",
"Taco Bell has 50 cent tacos? I remember when they were 89 cents. The last time I went there, they were $1.19.",
"Probably something like $20,000/ton and this would be a few tons.",
"The only way they could get it to stop leaking oil.",
"The only way they could get it to stop leaking oil.",
"Some kind of fringe science.",
"The only way they could get it to stop leaking oil.",
"Some kind of fringe science.",
"44.4 tons apparently. ",
"Dammit, we got the truck stuck in amber again!",
"The G-class is pretty great, almost as great as the new Mercedes E400 Sedan. The most intelligent E-Class family of all time welcomes a powerful new member to the dynasty. The E400 Sedan model arrives this year, boasting a 3.0L V6 biturbo engine producing 329 hp and 354 lb-ft of torque — the same powertrain that currently drives its E400 Coupe, Cabriolet and 4MATIC Wagon cousins. Paired with the 9-G-TRONIC 9-Speed automatic transmission and DYNAMIC SELECT, it promises a bracingly smooth way to experience uncommon luxury. Naturally, the 2018 E400 Sedan continues the tradition of E-Class brilliance. Harmonizing advanced automotive intelligence with awe-inspiring interior design, its first-class furnished cabin puts our advanced vehicle systems right at your fingertips — even as its world-class innovations continue to push the boundaries of what's possible in the world of automotive intelligence. \"Car-to-X\" Communication enables the E-Class to exchange information with similarly equipped vehicles — effectively allowing it to \"see\" around corners and through obstacles to detect potential hazards. Driver Assistance Systems — including Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC®, Active Steering Assist and Active Lane Change Assist — feature intelligent cruise control: They help keep you between the lines, and can even help you shift between them. Inside, the E-Class cabin provides an environment of pure comfort and responsive technology. Flowing lines and vibrant screens provide a striking visual display, while touch controls, aromatherapy and tailored seats indulge all of your senses at once. It's a vehicle that demands to be driven, and more than lives up to the dream. Look for the E400 4MATIC Sedan at your Mercedes-Benz dealership this winter, with an MSRP of $58,900.",
"While awesome, I'm more surprised at how much the light refracts on the left side of the cube! Can almost see the entire front of the car! ",
"What are you doing ",
"Damn, thats some saucy ass resin. Would dab forsure",
"How would you pour this much resin without it overheating and spoiling? Lots of layers?",
"I feel like this is an /r/hailcorporate post...but it's like the most blatant bthing ever if so. It makes me doubt it. ",
"if this is a fringe reference, I love you. ",
"Of course it’s art. No creativity whatsoever. ",
"I left my house keys inside it",
"AMBER ALERT: Mercedes Bens G-Class. Last seen near museum. ",
"I see you’ve been using a time machine. ",
"Dammit Tim!",
"Just memeing. It's fine",
"Fuck you lucky pricks for even having taco bell.. let alone cheap ass food, all our shit is expensive here",
"Probably the best use for it. A Jeep is what you want for offroading.",
"I saw this posted in r/resincasting, so my first thought was \"No control for bubbles?!\" All that money and the result is pretty claustrophobic, too much like mid-drowning. Yeah, it's be a big challenge to pour this much resin clean, but they clearly had a huge budget and still took 90 days, I'd think a 99.x% clean result would be very achieveable and finish up so much nicer. Funny to see old learning-resin mistakes in something so huge.\n\nEdit: Yeah, I'm sure you guys are right about the amber look, at least that they figured the irregularities would suggest amber. Most of the shots suggest they did this as a single pour w a looong cure time - the swirls and darker colors are what you'd get pouring a resin too thick so it overheats in the center and discolors where it's too hot and shears where temps are too different. But, really, what do I know, there's that one shot of the freshly demolded car that's perfectly smooth and glossy, and they roughed up the surface after. Suppose I could ask google if they published more about the process, but lazy, just wanted to speculate.",
"That's the first thing I thought. This took skill.",
"this will confuse people in the future when they dig it up a 1000 years from now ",
"I thought it was another Damien Hirst piece",
"For sale, 1978 G Wagen. Mint. Ran when parked.",
"Very low speed hardner.☺️",
"They DO move in herds...",
"But why?",
"The person standing in front of it looks fake.",
"r/DIWHY ?",
"I mean, some of the creativity is just in thinking of the idea. I never really thought to put a whole car in a block of resin.\n\nI wish I had.",
"I distinctly remember 79 cent tacos and I think when I was really young they were 59 cents, but maybe only on special... And I'm only 33.",
"Is it early or late in Australia?",
"Keeps it from rusting.",
"Nice Jurassic Parking job.",
"I disagree, this is dope. Great concept and great execution ",
"It's not the modern G wagen that everyone knows and thinks of. It's the old utilitarian work truck before it got big engines and powered leather everything.",
"Someone call the Fringe team. Gotta contain that junk!",
"So let's see some of your art, then.",
"y tho?",
"Can you elaborate on these 50 cent tacos please?",
"Lunch time",
"Yeah, but the BMW On Hammond’s cane is waaaay cooler.",
"that's not even the real issue, its not so expensive when you make it yourself..\n\nThe hard part is getting it to set without cracking.. This thing would of heated up something crazy i wonder how they set it.. Would have made it in a freezing room maybe.",
"Too bad you can't have Taco Bell.\n\nI'm sorry.\n\nI hope your day is going well.",
"Truckasaurus: Origins",
"Humans are weird. ",
"Y tho",
"I wonder what the dinosaurs will think of it.",
"Astro! Fetch my things, I've had an idea! ",
"> its not so expensive when you make it yourself..\n\nWhat is ballpark on this? Unless there is some resin cartel I can't imagine it's that much cheaper or someone would be selling super cheapo resin. Also I forgot about the heat generated. Not sure how well it'd set in a frozen room but I'm sure it was refrigerated at the very least. Definitely impressive. ",
"I think my memory failed me for some reason j thought I paid $30 but just looked in my emails and I paid $60 for 4kg of resin with catalyst included. \n\nStill not too bad but more than I originally thought. ",
"... but why?",
"Is it a payperview event or is there an online link you got for me?",
"Jim! ",
"Its corporate \"art\", which is marketing masquerading as art. ",
"Bro. U lookin’ for resin?",
"Oh no alternate universe is leaking. Someone call Walter ",
"These are the original Gelandewagens built by Steyr, simple and reliable, not the luxobarges they make now. It has the M110 twin cam six-cylinder gas engine, almost as bulletproof as the diesels. ",
"Man if that's cellulose resin, the cellulose rot is going to be epic!",
"I hope someone shifted that car into jurassic park\n\n",
"I imagine they be like \"and here, the fuckers have put a primitive land automobile in resin because fuck knows why. It's funny?\"",
"You're paying too much for resin. Who's your resin guy?",
"I don’t know which is more boxy, the suv or the resin?",
"lol, probably pawned off as art. ",
"same as my worm guy.",
"Why tho?\n",
"They might have to fill gaps with parts from a BMW.",
"Dude there's a taco bell in Brisbane, I haven't tried it yet but it's there!",
"Amazon.com more specifically 3m. Although if you know of anyone who offers prime let me know. I'd buy a Lamborghini if it was offered with prime. ",
"*\"Suspended in amber, wakener!\"*",
"I work at a boat shop and in my free time I will catch spiders or other insects around the shop and put them in resin ",
"Starts at about €80000 here in Germany, so I would suppose quite a lot more in the US.",
"Jim Halpert would be impressed. ",
"That particular G-wagon wasn't worth much. Its not the AMG monstrosity we get here in the states, it was the more basic work horse version that you didn't cry over if it got scratched. ",
"Is that like a gallon? I buy my resin by the gallon. 60 is pretty good. That would still put the cost of this project at nearly $700k in resin alone. Even if they got it for 10% that it's still 70k in resin. I guess more CPO G-wagen prices but more reasonable. That would pretty a pretty good deal though. If that were the case they should get into the resin business. ",
"Clever girl...",
"I laughed way too hard at this",
"What else were they gonna do with all that resin they ordered?",
"They'll produce Jeeps.",
"I would guess it's not a single pour, especially because someone said elsewhere that it took 90 days to make. There's no tide lines, so it was probably done in multiple (hundreds) of small pours, waiting for the previous layer to gel. This would avoid tide lines and help with some of the exotherm, which I believe is more a function of the thickness rather than the total volume.\n\nEdit: I should add that there's a 12-ton resin work by artist Rachel Whiteread that Smooth-On coordinated. [Here's a brief article](https://www.smooth-on.com/spotlight/fourth-plinth-crystal-clear-sculpture/) but it doesn't go too far into detail.",
"At the PA farm show they make a big sculpture of people out of butter. Your cholesterol increase just by looking at it.",
"“Damnit Jim!”",
"It's way way less in bulk ($1000 for 55g polyester resin roughly, I can't even imagine how much less this would be at bigger bulk). For everyone asking, it definitely was not cured at once, it would be poured in stages like all resin casts (basically). ",
"r/trees",
"No. The (real, non-AMG) Gwagons come with front and rear lockers and center diff lock, and coil springs and solid axles; all much like a Wrangler Rubicon. The Gwagons may not have as much factory articulation or aftermarket support but they will hang with a jeep unless you're straight up rock crawling. ",
"Damien Hirst is just phoning it in these days",
"Yeah they JUST brought one back but it's in that hell hole :/ if they bring one down to my hello hole I'll be happy. Well not happy but less sad",
"Alright so with the following assumptions/givens\n\n* $1000 for 55 gallons\n* 4 kg resin = 1 gallon\n* 100000 lb resin\n\n100000 lb ≈ 45359 kg \n45359 kg / 4 kg/gallon ≈ 11339 gallons \n11339 gallons / 55 gallons ≈ 206 drums \n206 drums * $1000/drum = still a metric fuckton (or about 206k if you're into numbers)\n\nIf we have any resin experts with more accurate numbers please let me know. \n",
"Yet somehow it still leaked oil ",
"I coulda used that.. its fine though.",
"Spared no expense.",
"Coming soon, Jurrasic Jeep coming to a cinema near you.",
"heh",
"What type of resin? Pretty sure Smooth-On has a deal of 22$ for 1.9 pounds of the 65D white casting polyurethane (for rotocasting but I use it for regular casting too). ",
"\"Amazing, it must have been trapped in tree sap while it was grazing. A spectacular find- it isn't often we see a perfectly preserved Toyota from before the robot uprising!\"\n\n",
"You forgot about the of vocal inflections and random pausing. Unless I read it wrong. ",
"So, the price of a Mercedes.",
"have",
"> too much like mid-drowning.\n\nI figured that was the goal.",
"Why though?",
"I am so happy other JP nerds beat me too this discussion. They truly spared no expense on this installation.",
"It is, in both universes. ",
"Would have.",
"I know they're capable. I was mostly joking, but to your point, I can get parts and service for my Jeep just about anywhere, Mercedes parts and service are harder to find. That's a big deal when you're offroading - not a lot of Mercedes dealers in the wilderness/rural areas.",
"i am utterly disgusted at this. i would punch you in the balls in front of your mother for this or a defender 90. this is not art, this is \"haha fuck you, shitheads\"",
"Let's make some LSD! - Walter",
"so can i smoke it? /r/trees",
"No Ryan Reynolds gif, no upvoat, sorry, you know the rules.",
"I feel like this isn't quite right, but I don't know enough about economic to dispute it. ",
"The discount only applies when it's ya birfday. ",
"This is cool af. ",
"At least it's not Gallowboob.",
"I think they wanted all the bubbles and random crap in it to look like amber",
"Okay, so slightly less than half the amount of tacos, it's still a lotta tacos.",
"Resin is about $1 a pound. \n\nSource: works at boat manufacturer as finance professional that uses resin and fiberglass to make hulls/decks",
"What? Anything in the world costs less when you buy extremely large amounts.\n\nUnless you find something that no one in the world has more than a very small amount of.",
"What is resin?",
"yeah i think 4kg is roughly close to a gallon? $60 AUD.",
"I'm pretty sure they wanted to make it look like fossilized tree resin",
"Inspiration? Dwight’s jello-suspended stapler; The Office, season one.",
"Where does one acquire this much resin... asking for a friend (who I hope to drown in resin and preserve in my living room)",
"The amber looks pretty cool, but I wish it were a bit more translucent. It looks kinda rusty. ",
"It would need to be studded in diamonds and made of shit then ",
"It doesnt have any visible support either, so it would've needed to be cured enough at the bottom that they could take out whatever they were holding it up with when they poured the top.",
"jurassicEclass ",
"Michael! Jim put my stapler in jello!",
"Plot twist the resin is actually all of the oil the Mercedes leaked in its entire lifetime",
"Seeing this gif make me want to watch the movies lol",
"Was probably suspended from above by a crane",
"I thought that was horsepower sweat?",
"Why!?",
"I was going to ask that, but then I realized it also applies to the vehicle without the resin, so it seems redundant.",
"If left alone, that will be around long after mankind is extinct.",
"Like dark matter or printer ink. ",
"If the resin didn't get inside would it still have a new car smell?",
"> Ran when parked\n\nI'll have to remember that line. I have a '73 VW van that I parked over 20 years ago.",
"What a twist! :)",
"It's a dota 2 meme. I actually clicked the comments expecting /r/dota2 to have leaked and upvoted it to the top.",
"Lemme heat up my dab rig",
"I got you bro.",
"FLEX SEAL!!",
"Ohh art",
"To fuck with future archaeologists and paleontologists. \n\nDo you need another reason?",
"r/DIWHY",
"This thing doesn’t live in a swamp. ",
"A stunt like this really resonates ",
"Is this Jurassic World 3 ? ",
"Jurassic Parking.",
"It might be, if the resin was urine.",
"Straight out of a Fringe episode :)",
"You can also prevent heating by slowing the reaction. A lot of resins have fast and slow formulations (the slow produces the same amount of heat since it's the same reaction however it does so over hours instead of minutes). I'm guessing they may have used a special formulation that would mean you can do bigger pours and have it set over a couple days. This would also let you pour the next one before the layer below sets completely which would blend the interface. ",
"ZING!!",
"[MFW.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB8vk8Zrwak&feature=youtu.be&t=4)",
"Oh damn...",
"You can use different formulations which have slower reaction rates. It would take longer to cure but it would mean the heat doesn't build up as much. ",
"Dang, it's like $6/pound retail.",
"Why, though?",
"Why they do this? ",
"We can harvest oil from the protected engine, fill in the blanks with current machinery...\n\nBenz, eh, finds a way",
"Wow",
"Should’ve been piss. Piss Benz. ",
"I edited the comment since you read it, but you can buy a gallon of resin for about $60, which is about 10 pounds worth. It's a bit heavier than water.",
"How do you keep them from breeding? I mean, do you sneak up behind and peek up thier skirts?",
"It's like if Dwight from the Office had a Mercedes and Jim got ahold of it.",
"Well at least that's one shitty Mercedes driver off the road.",
"$ 000,888 =",
"Spared no expense.",
"Everyone knows it's unfeasibly expensive to accumulate any usably large amount printer ink. \n\nIt's basic physics.",
"Will that work for my Harley?",
"Is the a theydidthemath proposition?",
"This hurts my eyes",
"Wait, did you say you have a G-Rex?",
"Art. Sometimes we spend a whole bunch of time and money just to show people the things that make us think; things we've never seen before. Even if you don't like this piece, someone out there thinks that this speaks to them personally. ",
"From the [press release](https://www.media.mbusa.com/releases/release-b6ef8e2c63bddce4d97eea8781019e97-spectacular-installation-for-the-world-premiere-of-the-new-g-class-in-detroit): \"Every day the block grew by around three centimetres in height.\"",
"Where it belongs, as the world's most ridiculous automobile",
"Man, that must have been a difficult pour considering the clarity and lack of layers. The heat must have been pretty decent as well.",
"When will /u/peterb77 learn his limits...",
"I drove by one today, it’s ugly.",
"if they only made it 3cm at a time why the hell is there so many air bubbles :D",
"yeah that's true, but just heard they did it 3cm layer at a time.",
"No best thing you can do is tell the Harley you want to see other bikes. Make a clean break. Just don't tell it the other bike is a Suzuki until after you move the Harley out of the garage. Wouldn't want it to cry oil all over the place and cause a fire.",
"That G class is beautiful, it really shows how douchey the new ones look.",
"But why though? ",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KjIQCKmM4\n\nApparently they should not.",
"At least you won't have to worry about air bubbles inside the G-wagon. The panel gaps are so huge that the resin will have no problem displacing the air as fast as you can pour it.",
"This is just ironic.",
"Well, it might start right up on it's own, like the jeep in jurassic world. ",
"\"art\"",
"This is the tightest shit I've seen in goddamn weeks",
"I would almost guarantee that there is evidence to at least one crime in there.",
"r/ofcoursethatsathing",
"And the bodies inside were never found.",
"55378008",
"Grow up\n\nedit:the grow up was from a mercedes benz commercial where they told you to grow up, but seems like nobody got that refrence. ",
"Why",
"This is cool as fuck",
"I so want this to be real.\n\nEdit: You sir, have made my day.",
"Both priced an arm and leg.",
"This is such a fucking waste of money\n",
"Not if they only offer it in individual units.\n\nEdit: oops, forgot to not go against the narrative. I'm sorry, *every* store in the entire world offers bulk discounts.",
"I wonder what was more expensive the Mercedes or the epoxy.",
"More like the price of 7 Mercedes (G classes).",
"They need some sealer on that resin.",
"I think that resin has more curves than the car",
"Came here for this. ",
"Auto-DNA?",
"Auto-DNA?",
"First of all they were rich enough to just buy a g wagon and never use it then they suspended it in resin #gwagonowners",
"I think that would be Andres Serrano.",
"I doubt that. He was looking for ways to make his pieces smell less last I checked.",
"That is one big pile of shit.",
"Or 1 bitcoin.",
"Shart",
"Does that mean the air is the resin?\n\nAnd does that mean we’re all in the said resin?\n\nHmmmm",
"If he did that, it wouldn't be an amber alert, now would it?",
"Some of them go for 250k+",
"1134209",
"You have to turn off the engine first.",
"This is why more and more people hate art and artists.",
"Ermm......art 🧐",
"for why",
"Micheal!!!",
"Make a new floor that contains everyone's shoes. ",
"Someone spent money on this instead of donating to kids with like no socks or whatever the fuck.",
"They didn't want to pay so much in taxes so they buy a bunch of resin from their own resin company \n3) profit",
"Wow. That’s ...pretty... cool.... Why?",
"Bingo. G-class DNA!",
"I bet it's worth a lot more now that it's been graded by Video Game Authority. ",
"Well, I've always thought the G Wagon looks a little bit...prehistoric....",
"Not sure what you all are looking at but I can see 3 distinct pours without even zooming in. \n\nThere's the bottom layer that you can trace from the front tires back towards the raised back right tire. Likely they poured this, allowed it to harden, and parked on it. The second layer is obvious from the line about 2/3 of the way up and the whoosh of amber flowing off the windshield. Third would be on top and looks like it was poured as the 2nd was still liquid. ",
"Top Gear should have done this with the Hilux.",
"[...](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/but-why.gif)",
"Nah, that would be a car encased in meatball, not resin.",
"Was really hoping it was jello. Jim strikes again.",
"It’s kinda like like a Yoko Ono piece only worth something.",
"Has Shop-Time gone too far this time?",
"I heard that in Cave Johnson's voice. ",
"Artists are weird",
"[and then...](http://gph.is/KpSlb3)",
"That they should was a foregone conclusion. ",
"https://i.imgur.com/Zy9fErL.gif",
"Peter’s gone MAD! ",
"Finally! The number of The Office references in this comment section is too damn low.",
"Why? And How?",
"Awesome picture! At the same time, there are people in North Korea eating weeds to keep their heart pumping. Fun!",
"HOW the hell would they move something that heavy? An earlier poster stated it was 44 tonnes or something nuts. Thats just crazy. How would they move this?",
"I knew that was coming but that was still the best thing I've read all day.",
"The Bell had 59 cent tacos somewhere between 97-2000. I remember my friends and I feasting on them everyday while in high school. Gas was also 69 cents. MAGA!",
"[Surely](https://imgur.com/gallery/9nohQh4)",
"The Mercedes one is so much better. The transparent plinth is a boring concept to begin with, but the thick dark frame that remains in the result makes it look even worse. I’m sure the resin cast was technically complex, but in the end it was a wasted effort.",
"I wonder how many years it will hold up? ",
"But why?",
"Welcome to G-Classic Park. ",
"Yes! I'm sorry I had to go down so far to find the Amber Protocol!",
"I hope they put all the G-wagon owners in there with it. If you see a G on the street, the driver will always be the most aggressive, entitled worst driving asshole you've ever encountered. I don't know what it is - I like the G, but it seems to attracts dreadful people.",
"You are generalizing.",
"How did they get it to be suspended at an angle like that without any visible cords, wires, or armatures?",
"Because this will inturn make more money for them where as donating wont. Im all for charity but business is different.",
"0 G-Class",
"Jurassic Carpark... Boooyaaaa! ",
"I need to watch that show again.",
"I don't think people will be very confused in only 1,000 years. Now, in 1,000,000 years or more anyone finding it will be perplexed, as practically nothing else from our civilization will be left.\n\nIf we all died, there'd be nothing recognizable left in tens of thousands of years. This would be among the few artifacts to last for eons. It's interesting to think that if another species becomes dominant and builds a civilization millions of years from now, they could find it.",
"...apart from the safety issues(windows, steering, etc), mpg and cost, I kinda like it. :(",
"Why that particular model, I wonder.",
"I'll take two 1000s thanks",
"Piss Christ-ler",
"In case of emergency break the resin.",
"Dieter, did you order 1000 liters of resin\n\n\nUuch, no Hans, I ordered 10 litres. Why do you ask?",
"Is this Westworld?",
"This certainly is \"Unbelievable\", I agree.",
"3cm/day over 90 days. I'm sure they made a dispenser/distributor with a mixing chamber and flowed it continuously to keep the cure rolling. You could even pull a light vacuum on the mold. Money was clearly no object. ",
"When I was in college, tacos were $0.49, and $0.59 with cheese. Many a feast was had with the change from the couch. ",
"Continuous very slow pour with a very long pot life ",
"r/DunderMifflin",
"Our entire army has changed over to the g class (g wagon) , it looks much cooler than the civvy ver and I'm pretty sure we're not all arseholes...",
"This is why art is in trouble, because 17 years after an artist did something unprecedented, a marketing team shits a car into it, but you think the artist wasted her effort.",
"That was my first thought as well...Piss Wagen. ",
"So it's a Land Rover?",
"Jurassic park sh¡t right here",
"\n\n\nWhile marvelous, I'm more amazed at how much the light refracts on the left half of the 3D shape! Can nearly observe the whole front of the auto! ",
"At first I thought this was Damien Hirst’ work. ",
"Everything about this car is, I am rich enough to drive this. It’s the coolest worst car ever at that price point. ",
"SOMEBODY CALL FRINGE DIVISION",
"“....the FUCK?!?!”",
"If there is anything in that jeep, no one will know for a long long time.",
"Are you saying the effort wasn’t wasted because it made an ad possible 17 years later?",
"That’s a lot of resin",
"Modern art is a complete waste of time and resources.I'm glad I don't drive a merc solely because I wouldn't want my money funding a pile of garbage like this.",
"This could march the artwork I have of a moose suspended in its own urine",
"Were they able to find DNA in it?",
"Also, Bruce Willis was dead the whole time",
"And they say we tax the rich too much...",
"Year 3026, aliens go down 1200 meters deep from surface, find this and say “looks like garbage”",
"I'm saying that if artists are like scientists doing work with no explicit application in mind, you are like a guy browsing the internet on his cell phone saying that their effort is wasted.",
"This makes me so uncomfortable.",
"But is it as cool as the mercedes benz e-class sedan?",
"In million of years, someone will find this and they'll clone it and we'll have Mercedes Park: The Movie ",
"Name a better looking car... that drives as bad/ worse\n\nBiggest draw back to a g wagon. Love the look, drives like shit",
"How the hell are they going to move that thing? ",
"[https://i.imgur.com/RG0BS1U.gif](https://i.imgur.com/RG0BS1U.gif)",
"I loved the show",
"Why?\n",
"this amount of resin must've heated up quite a bit during curing. ",
"And then finally the mummified remains of the body placed within it is found ",
"You do not know de way",
"Couldn't think of how to be wasteful today. Finally has idea. ",
"Wouldn't the automotive fluids eat the resin over time",
"I just checked the used car prices here in Germany. Found two of the same type from 1979. They cost 12k and 14k € and seem to be in a decent condition. ",
"Fringe reference?",
"They’re launching the new g wagon on the 15th and part of the campaign is about the history of the g wagon and the implication that’s it’s older than time or something to that effect. ",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWAdxoIRbWg\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVZSpmyYHqk",
"Jim went way too far with Dwight's new Mercedes\n",
"I'd they buried it somewhere for this exact reason I'd love it so much.",
"Are you sure that's not urine?",
"But why?",
"So you're saying launch it into space?",
"That probably would last a lot longer if you could calculate out the orbit long enough, or put it in a stable Lagrange point..",
"/r/dundermiflin",
"With a 45 ton lift (minimum). ",
"For the love of God why? 17 driving a $500 car and this dude suspending a $100,000 car in resin. Y tho...",
"That much resin might cost as much as the vehicle itself ",
"Is this by artist Damien Hurst? ",
"Ok. The G-Class is only the best, sturdiest car ever made; virtually indestructable and can easily do 1 mio. km in a lifetime. It is however rather expensive because of the insane quality of the car. We had one at my workplace for when we had to go off-road. It was like driving a tractor, I kid you not, but really the best car ever. \nHow I miss it, and don't understand why they got rid of it ...",
"that reminds me of a life tip I learned the hard way. When somebody makes you a cash offer by writing down a number and slipping the note to you, always make sure you're not reading it upside down before you excitedly yell out \"SOLD!\"",
"Also, do they move that shit around? Cause at 100,000 pounds it is way over the legal size load you can haul on a regular semi, so the logistics and costs to move that shit around will cost a lot. ",
"Having bought high clarity resin to cover a desk I bet that volume is worth A LOT more than the car.",
"\"Bingo! Auto DNA!\"",
"A Toyota Hilux is way cheaper and just as bomb proof. I wonder about the Land Rover Defender though, I've seen a lot of those yet I've heard that British cars are shit.",
"Yep it is. Dunno why I confused the two.",
"90210",
"hold onto your butts",
"What kinda resin are we talking? ",
"Then you make a separate deal with the factory. Find out who makes the largest bottles of commercial resin (say, 4 gallon buckets), and then make them an offer on barrels.\n\nThey might not make as much per gallon, but they'll sell a whole days worth of production guaranteed. Good way to reduce stock if you've got a good supply.",
"It wasn't until a few days later, that they saw the sculptors iPhone on the dashboard flashing away.",
"[Process video from Mercedes](https://upload.mercedes-pressmaterial.de/dir/G_Class_Cube_MakingOf_Video/)\nLooks like they did pour it in layers IMO. Also read somewhere that the block \"grew\" about 3 cm a day. So maybe not the slowest of cure times. The layers would be visible as vertical lines when viewed from the front and rear of the vehicle.\nStill a pretty impressive project.",
"But it's not a BMW",
"I saw this and immediately thought of Fringe.",
"That can die now.",
"They should have used this as a prop.",
"I drove a Hilux lots of times too- I can assure you there's no comparison to the G-class ...",
"In a roundabout way the idea behind it is to make more money in the long run.",
"I cant wait for the new jurrasic park movie to come out in 300 million years. imagine the park owner then using this g-class on a staff walking around saying they pulled all the dna out of the fossilized mercedez benz. ",
"Man the new Jurassic Park is gonna be weird",
"When people dig this out in 2000 years they will be confused why someone would cast what looks like a current model G class into resin and bury it.",
"Tata Sumo?",
"Jurassic Parking.",
"In 100,000,000,000 years could we dig this up and try to replicate the technology to find out what it is? Was this a space craft that rides across the wave lengths of light? Is it a suicide booth? \n \nScientist will be confused. Was it the early signs of life?",
"Someone get Peter Brown to make something fun from this. ",
"Perhaps he meant tacos back then. ",
"Fringe moment",
">paper view",
"Why",
"Bro that’s a baby moose suspended in its own urine ",
"That amount of resin must have cost a fortune.",
"Why?\n\nThis car could have been sold for 100K and used the money to buy food for starving kids in Africa...\n\nwhy?",
"I'm sure this will end up in the Mercedes Museum in Stuttgart when the marketing campaign for the new G-Class is over. \n",
"This is like Jurassic Park right? So when we go extinct the next species in charge can bring back some G wagons to turn into an attraction? ",
"Alien archeologists in the future are going to be so confused.\n\n",
"But why",
"A tear in the universe started in the passenger seat and they had to quarantine it.",
"Looks like this might void the warranty",
"This resinates with me for some reason\n1. Item\n2. Item",
"Looks fake.",
"Looking for my parked Mercedes, last seen near resin factory.",
"Why? ",
"This will be found in 235 million years and the advanced species will have the same question I always do, \"Why did such an \"advanced\" species drive around in such a stupid looking box car?\"",
"uhmm hombre.. you selling on my turf now? \nYou bettah stop that essay or ill have to stuff you down a barrel",
"Just because.",
"That video just made me like the car more. ",
"Why??!",
"What a waste of a car haha",
"\"The Physical Impossibility of Junkyard in the Mind of Something Driving.\"\n\n_Damien Hearse, 2018, mixed media_",
"Yet only one IT guy. ",
"Ugly, boxy, and the choppiest ride this side Malaga straights. Good riddance to bad rubbish !!",
"Fringe was a good show.",
"Would have been cool if it was the Jeep from Jurassic Park.",
"I would hope so considering the price difference :)",
"No link between dietary cholesterol and serum-level has been found. Debunked years ago.",
"Smoke it all, get a car",
"I thought Jim had put Dwight's car in jelo",
"why does the kid standing in front of it look like a render?",
"This seems like an advertisement",
"The sap from a 5000 foot tall tree.",
"I get the two confused as well. If this was Hirst, it'd be suspended in formaldehyde.",
"Let’s smoke it ",
"Let’s smoke it",
"y tho?",
"Is that in the Tate Modern?",
"I don't think I can drive this anymore ",
"If your interested this is what it looks like on display outside the NAIAS in Detroit, MI.\nhttps://imgur.com/a/nvlkA",
"Good bot",
"I am indeed. But it's just what I observe."
] | 432 |
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A real Mercedes Benz G-Class suspended in resin
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[
"Is this a Flatiron building for ants? ",
"Do you consider Mexicans as \"Ants\"... then Yes! \n(Im Mexican so no offense intended blah blah blah)",
"One of the biggest urban centers on the planet and no trash, hypodermic needles, pan handlers, homelessness ... Things that make me, a Norte Americano go \"hmmm.\"",
"The gang members holed up on the 4th floor apartment running drugs and hookers think your naivete is hilarious. \n\nAnd the gang members across the street on the 2nd floor don't think you're funny at all and would just as soon kill you for your shoes, but they're too busy figuring out how to fuck up the 4th floor gang.",
"I didn't say there wasn't any crime. Have you spent any time in Mexico City? ",
"This was in the Zentralia Churubusco area.. It was jammed packed, but this lil alleyway was pretty clean looking. Definitely can sense the criminal activities in the 4th floor. ",
"I have good friends who love in Mexico City and on visits there I've been incredibly impressed with the cleanliness of the city, and friendliness of people there. Sad to say, as a proud American, that lot of Mexico City makes a lot of Portland look like a third world shit hole.",
"I think I've played this map in CS.",
"That wiring is enough to make me cringe 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️",
"Yeah, it's actually pretty nice. I go down there a week every month for business. It's tourist attractions are amazing. A ton of museums downtown. Maybe I will share more photos of my random scenario ",
"Same. Haha",
"I took a few construction photos as well.. you'd love those.",
"No no... I don’t need nightmares 😩",
"hahaha, okay.. I will save you from being unable to sleep.."
] | 15 |
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Mexico City's 5th Ave.
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/r/pics/comments/7pzyho/here_is_another_piece_i_finished_up_this_afternoon/
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[
"Whoah!!! It's beautiful!!",
"Thank you! 😁",
"How long did it take? ",
"Got a website?",
"5 hours!",
"Amazing! ",
"I sell all my work though FB, and IG, here is my instagram name! @jamesmilnejewelry, Facebook is linked through there. I generally can't keep more than 1 or 2 pieces at a time, they usually go pretty fast, but feel free to message me on either platform!",
"It looks like something that would take you to Sigil, City of Doors.",
"10x more badass than any other homemade jewelry post.",
"10x more thanks than normal thanks!",
"It can take you anywhere you want!",
"The worlds sickest vape coil",
"Every time I post one of these someone HAS to make a vape cool comment, never have I ever used a vape, or made coils for one.",
"Haha i was just making a joke man ",
"This makes me wonder if you ever tried making any HR Giger inspired jewelry. This is really putting me in mind of some of his work.",
"Beautiful piece of jewelry, the shape reminds me of a SNES controller lol. ",
"That is nuts!! do you have any beginner kit recommendations to start to learn to do this on a small scale?",
"Been trying to get into wire wrapping. Any good tutorials you would recommend?",
"I get that a lot honestly :) I should do a piece dedicated and inspired by his artwork! ",
"And the purples are kind of reminiscent of the buttons 😂 good call!",
"Chain nose pliers, and wire :) ",
"I don't unfortunately, all I know I'd through 2 years of studying work, trial and error, and mental dissection of techniques! ",
"I want to learn to do shit like this SO BADLY. (Like, badly enough that I have a bunch a random weird pliers that look like they belong in a Black Mirror episode about dentistry). My work inevitably turns out ugly and uneven, though. The links in my jewelry attempts always fall apart. And the cost of all that wasted/practice wire adds up. \n \nAny suggestions? I promise I won't compete with you. . . I just make stuff to give away to friends.",
"Hey, nothin wrong with a little friendly competition! My best recommendation is patience, practice, persistence! Try using copper, it's generally cheaper than craft wire from stores if you find a good source (riogrande is great). Other than that pretty much practice makes perfect, I have done this full time as my job for almost a year so I spend A LOT of time, and nothing like this happens over night. If you have any specific questions feel free to message me and I'd be happy to answer them!",
"Fantastic craftsmanship. What are the dimensions of that?",
"Tourmaline and amethyst for the big guys?",
"Purple scapolite and amethyst :)",
"4.5cm x 2cm",
"better than any other ones i’ve seen on reddit! very uniform on the top and bottom “twists” (sry ima noob on these lol)\nwell done!",
"Have you ever posted a time lapse video? ",
"#Super thanks!",
"Make a youtube video how you do it and upload it. Amazing.",
"TIL!",
"Wow! I love it!",
"What is it?",
"I will trade my firstborn for that",
"Precast metal from another supplier that this person fitted fake science center rocks into over a lunch break. I did this shit growing up in the poorest school in my state. ",
"I don't know what I'm looking at, but I like it. ",
"Heady as fuck. Is it for sale? If not, shoot me a PM. I'd be down for a commission.",
"And as a result you got /r/murderedbywords",
"That's some serious talent!",
"I was looking through your IG and FB. How much for one of these beautiful things?",
"Fidget spinner or naw?",
"its actually a dumb hippy wire wrap... so not casted but still kind of bad in a different way. ",
"Freakin sweet looking. Just know- that chakras aren’t real, and crystals won’t align them. This is an awesome piece of art. ",
"What is it?",
"For those of you who think this is cool and would would like to see more of their work, I also think this is cool and would like to see more of their work.",
"Cool! Looks like your efforts are manifesting some cool stuff! Thanks for sharing!\nI wonder if there is an r/wirewrap?",
"This may not be appropriate to ask, but I gotta know: what's the ballpark commission on something like this? It's absolutely gorgeous.",
"I love that more than words can say.",
"I second that emotion, or at least use for further inspiration if running low",
"My dreams have become more vivid after seeing this photo.",
"There are a lot on Google. But what I did was buy cheap wire to practice with before using silver. You can find a roll of this at a craft store.\n\nAlso, the higher gauge wire is easier to wrap/learn on. \n\nI took lessons at a Hobby Lobby years ago, but I could have learned it online just as easy. \n\nGood luck!",
"Thank you! :)",
"It's a pendant! ",
"Deal",
"What have I gotten myself into 😵",
"Nice try, this all starts out as spooled Sterling silver wire, and I placed hand picked gemstones and set them in wire. Who shat in your cereal?",
"Your choice of words makes you seem so intellectual, I'm sorry you don't like my art work, but why comment on it if you don't like it? Seems a bit petty to me.",
"It's a wire wrapped pendant !",
"Thank you much :)",
"They range depending on three factors, time spent/materials used/metal choice, feel free to DM me on Instagram to chat about a commissioned project!",
"I don't use that jargon to sell my work, nor do I practice any of that stuff. I make art, and enjoy gemmology, I don't meditate or try to align my or anyone \"chakras\" to sell my work.",
"A pendant",
"@jamesmilnejewelry on IG, and my ace book is linked through there! Thank you!",
"There is! I don't post there much anymore for lack of response to be completely honest!",
"Something like this is around $200, just depends on materials/time spent!",
"Inspiration never runs low! I found a trick to avoiding \"artists block\" :) But I definitely will use it as a basis for a piece soon!",
"How many ohm is this coil?",
"I appreciate your words :)",
"I thought about it, but it would turn a 10 hour job into a 15-20 hour job, this is my full time line of work, so I wouldn't be able to sacrifice that much time without compensation :(",
"If it is, it's one fancy ass fidget spinner (also releveant xkcd post to my post https://xkcd.com/37/).",
"I gotta be honest, that seems cheap. My wife is a jeweler, I can't imagine this didn't take a while to put together.\n\nEither way, very cool piece. I like it a lot!",
"Wow. This is amazing. Where did you learn to do something like this? I would love to be able to make something as intricate as that. ",
"This is gorgeous!! How did you figure out you were good at jewelery making?",
"Happy cake day man",
"This is amazing! I’m now following you on IG!!",
"Requires a car battery to ramp up.",
"Jon is that you?",
"My name is James.",
"Happy cake day! I pride myself in bringing high quality work for fair prices to the table. This took 5 hours to make, so I couldn't charge too much.",
"Just taught myself slowly over 2 years and change! Practice, persistence, and patience are my three keys. :)",
"A friend showed me the basics a few years ago, and I just kinda never stopped, I wasn't this good at first, I have been doing it for 2 years and change, and full time as my job for just under a year!",
"do you have a website?",
"OK, I had a friend who ended up out on the west coast that does stuff like this. Haven't heard from him in a while though.",
"Jon Kirk?",
"Just Instagram and Facebook! @jamesmilnejewelry is my IG, and Facebook is linked through there!",
"I'm pretty sure we found your work in person in Michigan! Excellent pieces!",
"I don't think I have much work in Michigan, I'm from eastern Canada, although 99% of my work goes to the states, I haven't sold much to people from MI!",
"I was surprised at the reasonable price.... but only 5 hours to make?! That's outright incredible! ",
"That's super talented! My prize wrap has wandered away from me earlier in the year - where are you roughly based out of? I'd love to show my boyfriend your work before our next anniversary.",
"Since when is politely saying no murdering someone? I mean, unless they’re asking you not to murder them.",
"Yes sir!!! That is he. Was a great friend, still is I suppose but I haven't really talked with him in a great many years. Don't do the social networking thing outside of random internet comments.",
"careful I sense a dark energy",
"That's bad af!",
"You get quick when you do it as your job 😂",
"I'm based out of New Brunswick, Canada ! Feel free to message me anytime :)",
"I'm sorry your life is so mundane you had to go through and down our every single comment in this thread. Hope things get better for you.",
"Nice! ",
"Trade ya a heady pin and some grilled cheese?"
] | 100 |
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Here is another piece I finished up this afternoon!
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/r/pics/comments/7q010a/11_years_on_the_making_finally_got_my_citizenship/
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[
"Cool! Welcome to America!",
"Damn, I want a pic like that",
"Congrats! Welcome brother!",
"Congrats! What prompted you to come here from Moldova?\nBesides our awesome bbq and sweet flag and kickass eagles?\nEdit- damn a lot of freedom haters on this thread downvoting ",
"Go back to your shithole!!!\n\n\nJust kidding, congratulations!",
"Congratulations ",
"That's actually a full-sized American flag, but OP is just fuckin' *huge*.",
"I want the 'how you did it' story. ",
"Welcome! For your privacy, you might want to replace the picture, though. Everything is legible on your certificate.",
"No way, looking at the pic he could be from Denmark. See if he has any friends or relatives that want to come over..",
"Moldova is a proper shithole...",
"Congrats on doing it the legal way. ",
"Congratulations! Welcome home!",
"Congrats!\n\n*I’m guessing someone (everyone) has a better phone than me, and can make out all the details on your certificate.*\n\nIf you’re ok with that... cool. ",
"Wecolme! You did it the right way...and got out of your sh*thole country!",
"looking at the pic he is from Moldova",
"Congratulations, Thanos.",
"Welcome to the family!\n"
] | 18 |
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11 years on the making, finally got my citizenship
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/r/pics/comments/7q011t/geekey_multitool/
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[
"OMG! A tool to burn your fingers, shut up and take my moneyyy",
"But there isnt a mouthpiece, it would be like using a butter knife to inhale resin/hash off a stove.\n\nUnless there's a mouthpiece we cant see at the end of the key. But I honestly dont know which would be more dangerous, hotknifing or putting your mouth on metal an inch away from where you were just holding a lighter.",
"Don’t forget the added bonus of your key ring always reeking of weed!"
] | 5 |
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Geekey Multi-tool
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/r/pics/comments/7q012d/this_ladys_insanely_full_and_extremely_unsafe_car/
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[
"How else would the queen of crafting get everything home in time for crafternoon?",
"How do you even fit in here to drive?",
"Upvote for crafternoon ",
"[Speaking of unsafe, it seems your head is exploding.](https://media.giphy.com/media/Am1nhjxVA0fEQ/giphy.gif)",
"How have I come so low as to find this funny?",
"r/carbage"
] | 6 |
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This lady's insanely full (and extremely unsafe) car
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/r/pics/comments/7q02ft/a_10_dune_carved_by_water_from_recent_floods_in/
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[
"Need banana for scale",
"Indeed, this looks to be a lot larger than 10 inches.\n\nEdit: yes, I hear that all the time.",
"No you don’t",
"A 10\" Arrakis ",
"I’m such an idiot. I usually do a pat down of myself. “Keys, Phone, Banana, self-loathing, check.”",
"Spectacles, testicles, wallet & phone"
] | 6 |
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A 10” dune carved by water from recent floods in Louisiana
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/r/pics/comments/7q04g2/in_the_mens_restroom_at_a_local_pub_in_charleston/
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[
"Haha, I would take my mom out for dinner and odrer it after she gets completely wasted. ",
"Punk'd",
"Interesting to see in a men’s room.",
"That whore won't see it coming. ",
"It's probably also in the women's room.",
"What happens when they hire someone actually named Angela?",
"It was. I find it extra neato that the men's room was included. Apologies for the misleading title. ",
"She in the gang?",
"As a man, if you just want to end your date at any other bar, you can still just go to the bar and ask for Angela.",
"How dare you, I’m leaving!",
"None of her friends are having any luck on tinder. ",
"None of her friends are having any luck on tinder. ",
"Lol ",
"“Is your date trying to split the bill and ask you to pay your half? ASK FOR ANGELA!”",
"They just pick a new name...",
"Front page? Seen it, old news ",
"She was, but then she forgot to ware a Jimmy, and you know what that means.",
"I don't get this concept. How about, \"Hi, i'm on a date and I don't feel safe. Can you help me out?\"",
"Apprentice the update, tho I'm skeptical",
"What happens if u ask for angela but your date asked for angela too???\n",
"Angela's pickup game is lit.",
"Lol",
"You two creeps were meant for each other."
] | 22 |
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In the men's restroom at a local pub in Charleston SC.
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/r/pics/comments/7q05ty/nara_park_in_japan_these_wild_deer_in_japan_have/
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[
"Which goes completely against the term \"wild\". ",
"They are still wild, as in they are not anyone's pets and they are free to come and go from the park as they please.",
"All they really want are the food cakes you have, otherwise they pass you buy looking for the people feeding them. They are adorable otherwise...and quite numerous in the park. ",
"There are deer at Berry College in north Georgia that are the same way ",
"actually that is [tame](https://www.google.com.au/search?q=tame&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=DvpZWoGDIsmx0gTLr4b4BA) "
] | 5 |
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Nara Park in Japan - These wild deer in Japan have gotten so accustomed to humans that they will happily let you pet them.
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/r/pics/comments/7q06k7/meanwhile_in_canada/
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[
"Well that's sucks xD ",
"Nothing but net?",
"[Just going back to our roots.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiJJIacdF-E)",
"\"Why don't we cut a hole in the bottom of the net, so we don't have to poke the ball out with a broom every time?\" \"But... we already did that!\" \"Oh.\"",
"Fake. Definitely not Canada. The net would be apologizing ",
"Someone will come get it out using a hockey stick momentarily ",
"this is why you slam dunk",
"We the North! Go Raps!",
"That only freezes yourself to the rim.",
"https://i.imgur.com/xDpt6K5.jpg",
"Do Canadians cover their balls with maple syrup, Why is it stuck?",
"The net is frozen.",
"Brick",
"I knew what that was before I clicked the link 10/10.",
"I live in canada. It is curently 10 degrees celius during night time. Its not always freezing up here mah dude",
"> Sorry....Someone will come get it out using a hockey stick momentarily\n\nFTFY\n\n",
"What does covering my balls with maple syrup have to do with a basketball net?",
"It was -40 with windchill today in central AB :(",
"I do believe it matters where in Canada you live. This is in Ontario. Which saw a 16 Celsius drop in one hour. ",
"No it isn't, not anywhere in Canada, that was literally a one off that happened on Jan 11 2018, before that it was cold, today it's fucking cold. It was plus 10 celcius for all of 24 hours and back to winter.",
"yup, got -47 with windchill up a few hours north of edmonton",
"[hello, neighbor](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/7pyby9/well_it_is_too_cold_to_play_basketball)",
"Here in Quebec, it was raining with heavy fog. That will eventually freeze.",
"Nyet",
"Dundas Central Montessori School?",
"Can confirm. Was 12 c yesterday. Now its minus 12. ",
"It's 15 degrees in Halifax right now. ",
"Vancouver, Victoria, etc. BC has places that have mild ass winters compared to the rest of Canada.",
"I'm aware, am Canadian, I keep up with the weather and news, it's not hard. Mild ass winters are in southern Ontario where I live (although not to the extent of the west). Aside from that the west will get the Chinook winds and some areas also get the mild winters but not what he described. He described the nights where he is are at 10 celcius. They aren't, perhaps for one night it was.\n\n\nhttps://m.accuweather.com/en/ca/vancouver/v5r/january-weather/53286\n\nhttps://m.accuweather.com/en/ca/calgary/t3a/january-weather/52479\n\nhttps://m.accuweather.com/en/ca/victoria/v8r/january-weather/47163\n",
"That’s why no good hood has a net!",
"That’s why no good hood has a net!",
"That’s a weird way to play hockey. ",
"if the fog freezes everybody dies?",
"Double confirm, my back is thrown out from that damn snowfall.",
"Yes. "
] | 35 |
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Meanwhile, in Canada...
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/r/pics/comments/7q09ls/a_top_floor_sprinkler_leak_creates_a_21story/
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[
"r/mildlyinteresting ",
"Which building is this?",
"Otherwise known as Hard Mode.",
"It's a hotel and storage facility on Wabash street ",
"Throw it on to r/Chicago too!"
] | 5 |
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A Top Floor Sprinkler Leak Creates a 21-Story Tower of Icicles on a Chicago Fire Escape
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/r/pics/comments/7q09lx/peaches_in_panties/
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[
"All fruit should come like this! ",
"/r/confusedboners",
"Is this Japan? This would only make sense if it were Japan...",
"r/ATBGE",
"That massive asshole top left is making me laugh.",
"A peach! I could eat a peach for hours."
] | 6 |
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“Peaches in Panties”
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/r/pics/comments/7q0aru/my_2_year_old_daughter_looks_like_that_aunt_at/
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[
"im pretty sure u jsut predicted ur daughters future, welcome to the NWO, need more debt slaves so the warmongering government can use them as cannon fodder",
"cut up those hotdogs more.. seriously. ",
"She looks like Georgia Engel sounds. ",
"A healthier meal will probably do better.",
"I think she looks like a young Albert Einstein.",
"It's more about the choking hazard. And fuck it - kids deserve some hotdogs with Mac n cheese sometimes, it's all about averages. ",
"she is adorable!",
"She is precious!",
"Are you from New York?",
"Cut up those apple slices, too. \n\nWhat is she, a duck?",
"Idk if OP just read the other thread about a 2yo choking to death at day care, but it's definitely fresh in my head :( \n\nAdorable little one OP, keep her safe so she'll be around for many thanksgivings! I wanna hear about Mr Peppers and their adventures together!",
"Yup...batty old aunt Edith. ",
"Lmaooo",
"my granny has the exact same haircut. killing it kid!",
"Cut up those hotdogs more, please.",
"Came here to say this. Perfect shape to obstruct a little trachea. ",
"found the person that's never fed a 2 year old. some days you take the victories you can win",
"Do you have a link? Thanks!",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/Parenting/comments/7ptfjr/little_girl_died_at_my_kids_daycare_today/?st=JCCX3FUQ&sh=2c89e3b1\n\n:(",
"Aunt Linda? Hot damn!",
"No one is safe",
"Looking at your horrifying lack of spelling, grammar and logic in this post and *all* your other posts tells me you're in desperate need of an education. Did you skip every day of high school? Were you a feral child? ",
"She’s adorable! ",
"You seem like a very mean person. Not everyone has the same advantages as we did. This doesn't give you license to insult them.",
"Phyllis?",
"The daughter would like to speak to OP's manager about this issue. ",
"I tipped my phone to try and even out the cheeks. ",
"Or the lady at the hair salon talking about how their nephew is gay and how she's \"Ok\" with it",
"I do t know why you got so much hate, my first thought was the same, lead by example "
] | 31 |
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My 2 year old daughter looks like that aunt at everyone's Thanksgiving who will spend the time talking about her new cat, Mr Peppers
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/r/pics/comments/7q0ass/a_very_foggy_brooklyn_bridge/
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[
"Foggy bottom!",
"This is a foggy Manhattan Bridge.",
"That's the Manhattan bridge",
"Such a cool pic.\n\nLooks like someone did half a job with the eraser in photoshop."
] | 4 |
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A Very Foggy Brooklyn Bridge
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[
"No filters!",
"Fantastic picture. Reminds me of the river scenes from the film \"Perfume\".",
"Thank you! I was luck enough to catch the moment I guess. Haven’t seen the movie though, is it worth checking? ",
"One of my favourite films. Definitely worth watching. Some of the earliest uses of cgi to be unnoticeable, such as [this](https://i.redd.it/kr66liz05yfx.png).\n\nGreat story too.",
"Life goal: moving to this town! So beautiful!",
"My Flat is in this photo!",
"Oh cool, which one?"
] | 5 |
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On my way from Edinburgh to London I took probably one of the best pictures in my entire life. Berwick-upon-Tweed, England
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"EHRMEEERGEERDDD IM DENCENG!",
"I see that on the wall for years to come (I hope)",
"Maybe she should try swimming? That's a great streamline position lol",
"Theres one for the 21st birthday slideshow",
"Afuckingdoorabull",
"She’s got guts. That’s the spirit of a future Gelsey Kirkland right there. ",
"Pencil!",
"I'm sorry. Truly I am. But your daughter is a gymnast.\n\nThis is gonna cost you a shitload of money and she will occasionally cop some attitude with you because you ordered the wrong leotard shorts.",
"I doubt her commitment to sparkle motion",
"FTFY: ERMAGHERD IM DANZIG!",
"She’s trying with all of her might to be graceful ☺️",
"Your daughter has a bright future as a comedian ahead of her.",
"You know who is taking the picture of her? Mother."
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My daughter on her first day of dance class. At least she's trying!
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"I feel sorry for you man. This place is such a shit hole.",
"congratulations!",
"Congrats, friend! You chose the best nationon the planet! Well done!",
"Immediately put your Natz certificate in a safe. If USCIS ever has a computer glitch and your records disappear and you gave up with LPR cards...then you don’t exist unless you have that document lol. Congrats! If you don’t mind- what was your path to the N-400 like? ",
"Congrats, now I want to hear your story on how you got here.",
"Can you feel the raw freedom coursing through your veins!!!?",
"Welcome aboard! This shit will clear up eventually.",
"Good job, welcome to the greatest country on earth.",
"Buy low, sell high.",
"Welcome and congrats!!!",
"Congratulations fellow citizen!",
"Did you get your complimentary Super Bowl ring and moon rocks?",
"This guy gets it ",
"I'm so sorry. This must have seemed like such a better idea when you began the process...",
"Welcome aboard!",
"Congrats fellow citizen! Welcome aboard the USS Freedom!\nNo, but seriously congratulations!!",
"your flag is backwards. ",
"The old blood oath, huh?",
"Welcome! You joined us at a weird time. We aren’t usually like this.",
"Wut?",
"Hopefully in no more than 3 years.",
"BOOKS!",
"Shit + hole = Karma",
"Shit",
"I never knew dj kahled was an immigrant. Good job man.",
"https://i.imgur.com/nYtYkZR.png /s",
"Heh...hehehehe",
"The flag is properly presented to the right or left. Upside down is where it's disrespectful. ",
"What shit hole country are you from? /s",
"Congratulations brother!",
"Said the captain of the Titanic.",
"but it's BoP, bind on pickup.",
"Congrats on claiming your birth right. ",
"Haiti is a beautiful place. Maybe you should go there.",
"I can feel all the Murican blood giving me an Amerection if that’s what you mean lol",
"We see the iceberg from 15 miles away\nThe captain orders the ship to \"stay the course\"\n\n\"Full speed ahead\" shouts the accurst\n\nThe next thing we heard was, \"rich women and children first\"\n\nThe ship is listing, the captain's placing blame on the iceberg\n\n\"That berg attacked us, I am declaring war on the Arctic\"\n\nThis is the feeling we've learned to live with in North America\n\nThe morning headlines always accompanied with sweat and nausea",
"> Upside down is where it's disrespectful.\n\nExcept for when it's not. ",
"🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Welcome! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸",
"Not if he was charging into battle it isn't...",
"[Thanks America...](https://i0.wp.com/bluejayhunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Flag.jpg?resize=371%2C460)",
"Welcome, if you are Norwegian! ",
"*(whew)*\n\n\"He's one of the \"good\" immigrants!\"\n\n- Thousands of Redditors",
"The irony of having your dream come true with this President in office. \nCongratulations and welcome to your country!\n\nEdit: apparently there is no irony in a man becoming a US citizen while his new racist President blathers on about shithole countries, or the definition of irony has changed.",
"Supreme court, all the smaller courts. It will be decades",
"You look like that guy from Orange is the new black!",
"Good for you man! Congrats!",
"#winning",
"It’s funny how often new citizens leave the swearing-in room before the animatronic Lincoln motors into the room with these gifts",
"What shithole did you come from?\n/s",
"You're quite photogenetic! ",
"I only hodl with America",
"Congrats!!! Welcome to America!!!",
"You nailed the Freedom Gaze^TM.\n\n",
"Welcome Norwegian fellow.\nSincere best wishes and good luck.",
"DEEJAAAYYY KHALEEEED\n",
"Right, they completely miss out on the free Disney stocks.",
"You look like the security guard from the show Orange is the New Black.",
"Is everything bigger in Texas?",
"You look like John Cena in a witness protection program.",
"What shithole country did you crawl in from? Just kidding. Welcome citizen. Buckle up.",
"Crabwalking sideways into battle.",
"I haven't seen you reply to anyone yet, so this probably won't be answered, but i'm always curious. Now that you've legally migrated to the US, what is your stance on the current state of the US immigration policy? It would be good to hear from someone that has recently gone through it, rather than some people born here that have no real basis for discussion. ",
"...can you?",
"Hole",
"Takk ",
"Congratulations! Please make full use of your rights as a citizen.",
"I thought Fez got his green card much younger. JK congratulations",
"I'll buy you a one way ticket to Haiti if you are interested ",
"I just became a citizen today too!!!",
"Congratulations!",
"Yeah. I'm jealous of my fellow American.",
"Came to ask the same question, oh well, have an upvote.",
"Welcome aboard, patriot. Flip your flag around and you’ll be good to go. And don’t let reddit fool ya, yeah, the government/president/Congress all play a big part in how we’re doing, but we the people can always push for better. We’re the ones who keep things running. Not them. Stick to what you believe is right. Glad to have you. ",
"You're cute",
"Congrats. You may be the last of your kind.",
"Gay bear",
"I recommend immediately applying for a passport and passport card. These are your easiest proofs of citizenship. Easily transportable and replaceable. \nThen put your Naturalization paperwork in a safe. ",
"I second that motion. ",
"Well done, sir",
"Why?",
"Awesome! Who will you sue first?",
"Countries",
"Horrible timing man, but congratulations just the same!",
"You nailed the “Patriot staring at a bald eagle” gaze.\n\nBut you are holding the flag backyards. ",
"Naturalization paperwork belongs in a safety deposit box. Bank vaults have a higher fire and flood rating than safest designed for home use.",
"I wonder why we only see the American version of this. I'm sure there are other people immigrating to other countries that are also happy they finally got in. Not that I'm bitter or anything, I just think its odd there isn't an Australian, Canadian, British, etc.. version of this. ",
"Hells yes.",
"Bet he lynching blacks already. ",
"Perfect timing. ",
"Congrats!",
"You should have picked Canada. We don't have a president that insults people, we don't have the KKK, we don't allow people to walk with loaded fucking machine guns in the streets or at the mall. We have POUTINE!!! \n\nsorry for your lost but you can still change your mind.\n\nEdit: werdz\n\nEdit2: thanks for the gold. Can I sell it for bitcoins? Hehe",
"Glad to see you did it the legal way. Congrats!",
"Now make a career, find a based wife, and make MAGA babies. ",
"Way to go, Piscatella!!",
"Passport cards are only accepted at land and seaports, not that useful if you don’t live in a border state, but they fit in a wallet. \nEither type of passport is it’s own electronic record of your citizenship and an exceptionally quick way of proving citizenship for registering to vote, applying for a job, getting driver’s license, etc. ",
"Congratulations on winning the lottery of increasing your healthcare expenditure, risk of getting shot and basically a shitshow of everything from public healthcare to banking. \n\nWell at least you can own guns now",
"Wow you didn't try to queue jump and went through the full formal process?",
"I always wondered why people don't hang theirs on the wall like people do their diplomas. How do you lose this paper, it costs like $700 to replace...\n\nBut fire is a good reason to put it in a box instead of a frame. ",
"r/beards",
"Are you that guard from Orange is the New Black?",
"Not even joking, I came in here to say these exact words",
"Why do you look like a skinnier DJ Khaled?",
"One of us\nOne of us\nCongratz",
"Is it some sort of requirement that everyone who becomes a citizen of the US has to post about it.",
"It really isn't though.",
"Good for you bud. Welcome and thank you for going about it the right way. I know the system is broken but good on you for sticking with it.",
"Day one and this girl already America's harder than me.",
"From a shithole to the shitshow!\n\nI welcome you and your magnificent beard to this great nation of ours.",
"Same here. I was going to somehow work “All I do is win,” into it, but the pressure to be clever is off.",
"It’s that you [Huck](http://abc.go.com/shows/scandal/cast/huck) ?",
"No, *you*'re just standing on the wrong side of him. ",
"Or Asian. ",
"Welcome friend! Good job with the super-patriotic pose! ",
"Passport card? Huh!",
"YEA ‘MURICA",
"It’s like rain on your wedding day. ",
"So many people in here running down America. So sad.\n\nIf you hate it here so much, why don't you leave? I can't figure out why the haters stay. You're free to leave, free to go anywhere you want......just go! \n\nThey don't leave because they would rather bitch and moan in a place where you don't get killed for that and that has running water and closed sewers!\n\nI'm getting sick of this garbage.",
"Bruh that fade is on fucking point. ",
"Congrats. Just because he said \"11 years in the making\" everyone in this thread assumed he came in legally...maybe thats not the reason ",
"Nope, but it is part of the American propaganda machine on reddit. Just read through the responses and count how many times you see rehashes of the same ones over and over and over again. There are almost no comments, no threads and yet these somehow make it near the front page every single time. Imagine, a government body running a constant propaganda operation on a global social website like this... Sounds familiar.",
"In another 8 years, you could probably immigrate to Norway!",
"Why?",
"I’m sorry.",
"I came to welcome him to this shithole. But either way, welcome OP and congrats!\n\nSeriously though, can shithole be the new word for 2018??",
"No really travel a bit and you see that there is no place better to live full time.",
"Hopefully you ain't from Haiti ",
"I’m sorry it took so long to be apart of this shitty country.",
"Thank you for this. Haven’t laughed that hard in a long time!!",
"lemme smash",
"But only the fancy Asians, not jungle Asians /s",
"And the freedom beard! ",
"Alright man. You can now vote and buy a gun. You should celebrate by shooting a hole through a sampe ballot. ",
"Somebody who put in the hard work and is now a proud citizen of the USA? I’ll take ANOTHA ONE! ",
"Congrats",
"Sorry to hear that",
"Did you mean the immigrant that waits his turn in line, does the paperwork and pays the necessary fees to have them processed? Because that is the good kind of immigrant.",
"Welcome!",
"What about America do you dislike?",
"yeeessss, we need more strong beards.",
"Congrats! Of all the citizen pics I've seen your extra flair really pays off. My favorite. ",
"What does that even mean??",
"Congratulations, slave. You now have more responsibilities and restrictions than freedom.",
"GET THIS MAN A FREEDOM RIFLE",
"Thank you for doing it the legal way.",
"Don't ever let anyone bully you into thinking you don't belong here. Welcome to America!",
"I legit thought it was dj kahled\n",
"Welcome",
"His drivers license, passport, birth certificate, and social security card are likely to be kept at home. If he loses his naturalization papers as well as those other documents (fire, flood, tornado, etc.), he is SCREWED!",
"The rules of displaying a flag for a photo are pretty clear. He’s holding the flag the wrong way. ",
"As a non-American, that background is both a fucking disaster aesthetically, and a perfect representation of the US in graphic form.",
"Damnit, if he was just holding a freedom rifle I know a bald eagle would swoop in for the freedom photo! \n\nHmm... I gotta hear some freedom ringing this weekend now!\n\nIn for freedom rifle photo op!!\n\n\nThere's a freedom rifle t shirt I keep meaning to purchase... gotta find it",
"Is this a reference to something?",
"You poor bastard. You chose the wrong country my friend!!!!",
"Back the fuck up, Dan. You know he's my type. You always do this...",
"Congratulations, fellow American!",
"Welcome friend! Despite of a lot of naysayers and pessimists, this is a great country to live in! No place is perfect but keep your head held high and have a positive attitude and hard work and this country will reward you.",
"Congrats! That’s an incredible amount of work, always wonderful to see it pay off. Enjoy all the FREEDOM and BALD EAGLES, fellow American!!\n\nPlus, background made my day. Hahaha",
"He meant to say \"the Asians that come from the shithole countries\"",
"Have you been abroad??? Seriously, not trying to be snark.",
"Lack of health care, the rich control the economy, lack of maternity leave, growth of poverty, the growth of violence, the fact that you can have a job above minimum wage and you still leave pay check to pay check because the cost of living in America has gone up faster than the wages we are paid. The cost of college has gone up 300% since the 70’s. However if you are a child for a middle class family like I am you are given any help. So many millennials and I are in their 20’s and are tens of thousands of dollars in debt and finding a job that pays well to support ourselves and pay a $500 to $1000 bill a month. This is just making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Granted I also know their are worse countries out there, I mean I am on reddit. But we aren’t far away from it. A black man can’t tell a cop he has a gun without being shot to death. A white man is being gun down in the hall way of a hotel because he had air rifles. And it’s not just guns. The opioid crisis in America is ridiculous! The amount of those who are killed by gun violence, 3x that die by opioids. This country is falling into a shithole. Those who need help with their addiction probably don’t have insurance to cover for that help. ",
"That certificate is going to get counterfeited multiple times I guarantee it. ",
"Our wonderful president talking out of his ass.",
"Lol you're downvoted for congratulating a man for ACTUALLY becoming a citizen....fuckin liberlas.",
"Congrats DJ Khaled, love your music glad we can keep you in the states, weight watchers is doing wonders for you keep the good work",
"How do you become one?",
"Got it. It is worse in Sudan and North Korea. So the USA is great.\n\n",
"Wait, really? I gotta look this up now. \n\nThat's hilarious\n\nEdit: no fucking way. What a time to be alive",
"He didn't say it, it was fake news. ",
"You answer freedom related questions, and then you’re admitted. If you have even the slightest hint of shithole country mindset syndrome or commie syndrome, you’re rejected by God Emperor Trump. ",
"Is that about it?",
"After digitally enhancing the photo I discovered that he's from San Antonio. I can see why he wanted to escape to America.",
"https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/apply-renew-passport/card.html\n\nExplains the difference between the card and a regular passport. They have only been issued since 2008. \nCan only be used at land and sea ports, not airports. Useful for people who live in border states and travel to the adjacent country some, but not frequent. For frequent travelers a Nexus pass is a better option. \nIt would be good for a naturalized citizen because it can fit in a wallet. ",
"Let the eagles soar...! 🦅 ",
"Welcome to hell.",
"There are plenty of places in Europe that are better. There's also Canada and Australia. ",
"Woah i didnt know theres a shithole countries?? Mind naming them?",
"You mean as opposed to Melania, who became a citizen the illegal way?",
"Congratulations!!\n\nNow the inevitable question: *WHY?!?!*\n\nEDIT: I have double-digit-negative points and yet got gilded.........only in America!! :-p",
"Africa",
"Very fake, it's what Fox and Friends isn't",
"Nice!",
"Vietnam, North Korea, Quebec, etc.",
"Why aren't you making a photocopy first at least ",
"Here's some irony. The US invented the cellphone. The US invented the internet. Now, the rest of the world uses both to watch us obsessively and comment on how much they think we suck. ",
"I believe it has been determined that shithole is indeed one word.",
"It would be hilarious on an episode of Veep.\n\nUnfortunately this is our reality ",
"A few years ago, the local cops used to do \"fake arrests for charity\" where they'd arrest someone if someone donated money to charity. Perp walk, cuffs everything. There was a guy in a local crime lab who'd been a US citizen for decades, but came from like Venezuela or Ecuador or one of those South American countries where shit went fucking down.\n\nSo someone dropped the charity amount to get him arrested. He was also a well known prankster, so fair's fair.\n\nAlso not the first \"arrest-\" it was becoming a bit of a fad, so everyone knew this was a thing.\n\nCops shows up, tell him he's under arrest, cuffs out, and everything.\n\nWhatever that small, dark corner of space where fear resides pinged in his head, and he freaked. the. fuck. out.\n\nMiddle aged man- US citizen for decades has a MASSIVE panic attack that he's about to get thrown back to whatever military dictator shithole he came form. Didn't matter that he was a citizen and was never going back. That fear of being sent back never went away.\n\nThey finally got him calmed down, and told him it was a prank.\n\nThen the local cops quit \"arresting people for charity\" after. it wasn't the only problem they had with it, but it was the worst incident.\n\nSo yeah. Get copies of that paperwork, and guard it with your life in multiple place.",
"There’s more I’m sure. For instance the time it took for this man to become a citizen. 11 fucking years. That’s a long ass time. In Canada, it’s less then half that. \nAnd let’s not forget the continue tolerance of violent and hate groups. Like the KKK, the Southern Poverty Law group, and Neo-Nazi’s. They promote hate and violence and they are somehow protected by the first amendment.\nAmerica is behind on all social equality. Things that make European countries, Canada, and Japan the greatest countries to live in. Not only the greatest but the citizens are happier. There fore less violence.",
"I mean.... it's pretty hilarious. I just love shock value humor and this is just the cream of the crop.\n\nEdit: okay I expected some downvotes for this. Taking politics too seriously is a very very easy way to be unhappy, people. Gotta realize that they're all asshats, be it Obama, Reagan, Clinton, bush, trump, carter, etc. and they never have your best interests at heart. Learn to laugh at them.",
"He looks JUST like him, right?!",
"My condolences",
"Congratulations, and welcome!",
"We are on our to being a third world country soooo you can save your money you’ll need it",
"Not sure why you're bringing up fox and friends. They were not the ones who made up this fake outrage story. ",
"Yep looooool strongest economy and military growing population UN security council seat world leader NATO heavyweight literally in the first world = third world",
"DJ Khalid ",
"It's ironic because it's like the definition of a 1st world problem.",
"Welcome to the family.",
"Yup. Only good for road and water borders. Not by plane. ",
"Our economy is not strong. At least won’t be after trumps tax reform. Last time we had a tax reduction re went into a recession and that was less than ten years ago. And our military is severally over funded. Which leaves no funding for our education systems and healthcare. Hahaha so I guess guns and money is okay but we will have sickly idiots as citizens >.> look at countries who actually have strong economies. America is not the best country by far. ",
"Congrats on doing it the legal way\nShouldn't the flag your holding be waving the other way? Thought there was some general rule about that",
"Propaganda posts I always see them posted without any information",
"Heeeeyyyy congrats man!! Local San Antonio here. 🤗",
"From Norway or some shithole?",
"Another One.",
"Congrats glad to have you fellow American",
">severally \n\nLooks like we already have idiots as citizens ",
"That's why I said f&f was the exact opposite!",
"So the obvious question. Why are you still here?",
"Oh wow. One misspelled word and I’m an idiot. Obviously has no counter argument. ",
"The only thing that could make this better is an 80s style phantom shot of your head floating in the background with the eagle",
"Congrats, DJ Khalid!",
"Sexy af! Nice pic ;)",
"Congratulations!!!! ",
"I live from paycheck to paycheck. I don’t even have the money to buy a used car. Much less have the money to have residency in Canada.",
"Unfortunately.",
"Because, shockingly enough, not everyone on Earth shares your opinion.",
"yea, pay check to pay check, while 30k deep in debt, most countries wont let you immigrate with debt.",
"So what is the plan?",
"Why immigrate to this place anyway. Would have been better off in Denmark or etc, where they actually pay a livable wage.",
"no bro, its worse in places you probably consider top tier.\namerica is fucking amazing, its just kinda weird right now. ",
"Good album",
"Well I also think well I’m stuck here try to make America better. But easier said than done.",
"Didn't you shoot Trayvon?",
"I'm pretty sure they would be backed up and probably printed out as well. I recently ordered my great great grandfather's naturalization records from 1932. They were easily able to provide me a copy.",
"I live on a luxury spaceship. Wouldn't visit earth to save my life.",
"Well...keep your chin up. We could all do more to be better people and better citizens. \n\nHave a safe weekend.",
"You too",
"One of us one of us one of us one of us ",
"Congratulations, but you kind of caught us at a bad time...",
"As of last year I suspect many DO.",
"Congrats ",
"Hey dont mind everyone taking away your celebration to talk about something else.\n\nWelcome to America fellow citizen. May you exceed all of your dreams and live a life full of happiness, liberty and Murica",
"I thought he looked like Huck from Scandal!",
"Congrats. Now you can complain about the damned immigrants (/s).",
"Ok, that’s all well and good. But he’s clearly a supporter of America, and wants to be here. So why the hell do you have to drag on his accomplishment just because it doesn’t align with your personal beliefs?",
"Congratulations and welcome!!",
"savage",
"I don't think you know what 3rd world means",
"😑 I know what a 3rd world country is. ",
"Glad to have you. Now go do whatever the fuck you please, ya red, white, and blue blooded bastard.",
"North Dakota...",
"Eyes on the horizon, it all belongs to you. Nevermind the people",
"Congrats! Welcome! And thank you for your patience and perseverance. ",
"Welcome! We are thrilled and honored to have you!",
"My condolences",
"Looks like 2pac signed your certificate my man",
"He's a fellow Texan. What's to say he doesn't already own 3 rifles, in 30/30,308/556 and a few pistols in 45acp, 357 and sum 9s?",
"Srsly, I would've just married him.",
"I like having it for work because I don't have to give any other documents for the I-9.",
"> Is this a reference to something?\n\nI'm jealous that you've been able to insulate yourself from the news more than I have",
"State law requires owning all of the above. \n\nEdit: clarified Texas joke",
"Ouch.\n\nAmerica is a civilized country, man. We reserve this level of burn for New Jersey. ",
"Congratulations!",
"My sincerest condolences.",
"Shouldn't you go back to guarding that prison! What if piper escapes!",
"Welcome to our shithole! ",
"DJ Khaled? ",
"Unless you're in Alaska",
"There is definitely some kind of battle going on between taoist demons and nerds. Interesting",
"Cheers brother. I wish you luck in your future endeavors. Welcome to the wild west.",
"How much of that was your wait time for processing? I'm currently at 10 months, and they are currently processing forms from 4 months before I submitted.\n\nMeanwhile, I've lived here 27 years, am married to a US Citizen, own a house, and have had recent federal background checks when I got my conceal carry permit. Gotta love bureaucracy.",
"Couldn't help but read this is a Russian accent.",
"Funny. Didn't know the black market didn't exist, sorry my bad.",
"You look a little older than 11.",
"Congrats, Zangief!",
"How did you go about doing that? What department would you go to? ",
"You have chosen poorly",
"Cutting out all social media but Reddit (and avoiding political/news subreddits) could possibly be one of the best decisions I've ever made for my mental health.\n\nHighly recommend it. I hear about the occasional big thing from family members, as they get really involved and worked up about things like that, but that's it. \n\nPeople tell me that I need to stay in the loop. That it's ignorant of me to avoid all news. But to be honest.. I'm far happier. If ignorance feels like this I will take it. I only live for so long.. why waste it on negativity?",
"You might be out of the loop, but this whole thread is referring to how Trump reportedly said:\n\n>\"Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?\"\n\nIn a recent meeting. More on that [here](http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/immigrants-shithole-countries-trump/index.html).",
"What took you so long, red tape?",
"Thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing it the right way. You are a fantastic example for what immigration should be.",
">Our economy is not strong\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_economy\nLiterally top in the world.\n\n>No funding for education and healthcare\n\nhttps://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/\nVast majority of mandatory budget is spent on social programs.\n\n>Hahaha so I guess guns and money is okay but we will have sickly idiots as citizens >.> look at countries who actually have strong economies.\n\n??? Unsubstantiated fearmongering.\n\n>America is not the best country by far\n\nBy which metric? And also, you declared America was a \"3rd World Country\" which is not only a ridiculous lie but also is not the same as \"not #1\"",
"Look at you being all smart and blurring your personal information. ",
"This is beautiful.\n\nr/MURICA",
"But also good for air travel within the US, especially important if you plan to travel after October and your [state id is not compliant with REAL ID](https://www.dhs.gov/real-id#CurrentStatus).",
"I'm sorry.",
"I thought this was dj Khaled for a hot min ",
"Welcome, New Citizen!!",
"Congrts. Now tell your family and friends in Norway that they are welcome also:)",
"Covfefe.",
"Doing it the right way FTW. I came from a shithole country that is still mostly shitty today.\n",
"Your beautiful beard should be up in the great white North!",
"Chicago....",
"I hope he’s on Scruff",
"Healthcare and maternity leave are not illegal in the US.",
"It is now.",
"USCIS. I needed it as part of a dual citizenship application. Here's a copy/paste from a blog, dealing with just that (ordering naturalization records)\n\n\nBTW, the cost use to be $20, but they were super backlogged (6 month wait was average) so they upped the fee to $60 and hired more staff.\n\n>While USCIS is mostly involved with people trying to get green cards and US citizenship, they have a small and little-known genealogy division. As far as I know, they do not have anywhere for walk-ins, so you must order from the genealogy section of the website. https://genealogy.uscis.dhs.gov/optionpage.aspx (or by mailing in form g-1041a from https://www.uscis.gov/g-1041a).\n\n\n>USCIS has naturalization certificates from 1906 forward. For records prior to this, you'll have to go to the lower courts archives (county/state). It is mentioned in the video that documents leading up to naturalization are often with National Archives (NARA). It is important to note that NARA does not have the actual naturalization certificates that all consulates specify they want to see. So, you can save yourself some money by starting with USCIS--if they have your certificate, that's all you need (unless you are applying at the NY consulate who also wants the documents leading up).\n\n\n>If you have found a naturalization certificate for your ancestor online already, like through FamilySearch or Ancestry, you can order a copy directly without beginning with an index search. You take the Cxxxx number off the certificate and order using the 3rd option on the USCIS page linked above. You might also find the naturalization certificate number recorded on your ancestor's oath, if you've found that. If you can't find anything yourself, you start with an index search (1st option on the page). If they find a record, they will give you a case number and you then use that to order a copy of the record (2nd option on the page).\n\n\n>There is nothing official about the records they send. They are simple, black and white photocopies (or they may send you the image on a CD that you can print-out).",
"Because those other countries don't naturalize citizens nearly as frequently as America does. In the last decade over 7 million people were naturalized as American citizens. That's roughly a 1/3rd of the population of Australia, a 1/5th of Canada, or 1/9th of the UK. ",
"I'm ok with that.",
"Congrats! You’re now a racist for being an American. Sorry?",
"I don’t agree but u Might wanna hang on to the old citizenship after today’s headlines...",
"Happy to have you here! ",
"And the most intense burns for Florida. Being from there, I can confirm much of it is true.",
"Piscatella!",
"Duh, it is in the title. He's from America.",
"I think he would know by now lol. It takes years to get naturalized. ",
"Welcome! \n\nDid they tell you how to undo that? I'm asking for a friend. and maybe his family...",
"Jeez, Canada needs stuff like this. We have a lot of immigration as it is, but for some reason we still can't get our numbers up. ",
"Congratulations American!",
"Married an american citizen eh",
"Such an awesome picture",
"You seem a bit lost. Here, so you know what people are talking about .\n\nhttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-referred-haiti-african-countries-shithole-nations-n836946",
"Probably from a shithole country /s\n\nBut honestly, go back to your shithole country you brave fucker!",
"I don't think that you do",
"[http://m.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/GDP_per_capita_PPP/](http://m.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/GDP_per_capita_PPP/) \n\nFunny my findings show that America’s economy not second. And part of the reason it’s even that high is the large corporations.\n\n[https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/?sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFrJ7vjtTYAhUhZN8KHWBKAW4Q9QEIGTAA](https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/?sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFrJ7vjtTYAhUhZN8KHWBKAW4Q9QEIGTAA) \n\nIn this research, if you read it says that congress decides to spend this much (x) amount on these things and almost half is military. And they allocated 1.1 trillion dollars to these things, majority to the military. \nThen there is mandatory spending which is 2/3 of the budget, not all of the budget. Got to these programs. And that money has to go to that but congress spends more of their extra money into military. \n\nAnd lastly I said America is headed towards a third world country. It can’t even provide help for the hundreds homeless veterans. Provide help for children born into poverty. When there are countries in Europe that cover maternity leave and your hospital bills for said delivery. \n",
"I was gonna post this but then I'm like I'm probably gonna be downvoted to hell",
"Nice.",
"Piscatella?",
"Congrats! ",
"Fuck yo hard work. Stay indoors please while yo hardworking immigrants do all the hard work for this piece of land.",
"I didn’t say illegal 😑 I said lack of. I work at a small company that started from the ground up. I mean as American as you can get. But because it’s a small business, they can’t provide health insurance. And I’m sure they can’t provide paid maternity leave either. So fuck me right.",
"Lawl",
"congrats American ",
"Another one!\n",
"Because if you knew what it meant you would have never made that bullshit statement ",
"Congratulations, you look very happy",
"You think Iran is a third world country?",
"Does that signature say \"2 Fac\"?",
"> People tell me that I need to stay in the loop. That it's ignorant of me to avoid all news. But to be honest.. I'm far happier. If ignorance feels like this I will take it. I only live for so long.. why waste it on negativity?\n\nOne of my favorite aspects of Reddit is you can ask \"stupid\" questions because you're out of the loop, others are also wondering the same, and there's almost always someone else willing to give a non condescending explanation",
"It took 13 years for me. But I finally got my green card in 2013 and filled the paper work last year. After $900 and plenty of interviews, they finally called me into the swearing ceremony. \nEdit: I should say that the whole process was not $900 but more. The citizen application was. ",
"You look like you'll do best down south, unless you've got an accent.",
"Congratulations! i want to start to process this year myself. How long did it take from time of application",
"I’m proud a you holmes.",
"Bun venit in America!",
"And the people who become citizens tend to know more about America than Americans themselves. I remember taking the citizenship test in highschool and the majority of kids failed it ",
"Words: they mean things.\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World",
"Welcome to the land of advertisements.",
"Welcome to the party bro. Shit’s been bananas around here lately. Want a beer?",
"You mean those countries that will be wealthier than the US 50 years from now. Those shithole countries?",
"One of us! One of us! One of us!",
"Welcome to the club!",
"Strange that you decided to work at a small company and then were shocked that it doesn't provide all the same benefits that large companies provide.",
"Thank you for doing it Legally!!!",
"Let me educate you real quick. The terms '1st world' '2nd world' and '3rd world' are talking about allegiance, not standard of living. These ways of describing countries arose during the cold war. A 1st world country is a nation that aligns with the United States. A 2nd world country was a nation that aligned with the Soviet Union. And a 3rd world country was a nation that was neither.. \n\n So to answer your question; since Iran aligned with the US during the cold world, they were considered 1st world. ",
"Chicago metro area has a higher GDP than Norway.",
"Massive congratulations mate!",
"You are missing the point. So should no one work in small companies? Or only a married person. I’m also in my field that I studied in college for. So should I just leave and just do some mundane job that I’ll hate?! Why can’t I pay taxes and it go to healthcare? I shouldn’t have to worry about getting sick. Getting birth control. Basic health care. ",
"The $900 is what they call the shithole fee, sorry.",
"Why can't you pay insurance and not worry about getting sick? ",
"That certificate looks like a big dollar bill.",
"becoming a citizen isn't hard work",
"Which surprises me because the questions all seem ridiculously easy.",
"That sounds like a good way to get some one shot to death, in some states you can use deadly force to combat an illegal arrest.",
"Wistfully contemplating his existence while an eagle holding a M16 flies overhead... \n\nMajestic",
"Welcome!!\n",
"GDP as in gross domestic product??\n\nMeaningless stat.\n\nNow look at GDP per person and you will see how idiotic comparing GDPs is.\n\nI mean sure that the GDP of one million poor people is greater than one person making $400,000 a year. GDP don't mean shit.",
"I'm so sorry to hear that",
"This is the kind of immigrants I like to see.",
"WE DA BEST CITIZENS!!",
"well your timing kinda sucks but congratulations nonetheless!",
"Welcome to our shithole country.",
"Hei, ka du fær å snoke i? ",
"His flag orientation is fine, he's charging towards freedom you shitbird.",
"You should cross post this to r/murica for that sweet, sweet karma. Congratulations and welcome to America. ",
"Umm....only one way to do it. ",
"Not really an achievement these days.",
"Hey...\n\nFuck *you*. \n\nSincerely New Jersey. ",
"~~Go back to your Norwegian shithole!~~\n\nWelcome home, neighbor!\n\n",
"It does if you want to compare geopolitics",
"Congrats! ",
"Wow I thought I was original",
"Norwegians are rich as fuck. Luxembourg and Monaco are richer, but Norway is near the top.\n\n",
"Who edited this background and did Obama give you the video message or have they updated it with trump’s?",
"That's awesome! Where did you immigrate from? :O",
"Grab a weapon",
"Frickin awesome, congrats!\n\nSorry it had to happen at a time like this though, with our global image at rock bottom and still plummeting ",
"There is only one way to naturalized. You can't do it a different way. ",
"Hey OP! Congrats on becoming an American citizen! Question - Where did you immigrate from? I'm genuinely curious, I love seeing people from all over the world.",
"lol ",
"You look like the mean Correctional Officer from OITNB.",
"One of those days that you never forget. Congratulations.",
"Woohoo gratz man! Welcome.",
"Welcome home.",
"It's not an illegal arrest. They identify it as a charity thing and everything.\n\nIt's just the guy had a visceral reaction, and all of his \"Fears\" just bubbled up.",
"Don't you have the next season of Orange is the New Black to record? ",
"Congratulations my mom is going through the same process!",
"If that really is OP I’ll offer his advice...\nGet a passport ASAP!! If you lose, destroy, spill coffee on, poop on, use to roll a fattie, build a paper hat etc etc etc with you nat cert you will need to get another one before getting a passport and FYI they are expensive!!",
"I thought the name was Orange is the new Nazi?",
"*Amerection*....\n*bald eagle screech*",
"If the last two years taught me anything, it's that a large amount of the population is extremely stupid",
"Congratulations! Go buy a gun and exercise your 2nd amendment right.",
"Welcome!",
"Don't put Vietnam on that list. We need more Pho restaurants in this country.\n\nWe should expediate their application process! ",
"I'm on year 18 rightnow, hopefully i can join all you guys oneday :)",
"You are wrong. It gets more and more difficult every day. This is a real accomplishment. ",
"Sorry",
"....and some Freedom Fries",
"America is a terrible country. It’s racist, homophobic and bigoted. Why did you go there?",
"Just upstate an hour or two from me, enjoy life brother!",
"> Digitally enhancing\n\nBitch you zoomed",
"Congratulations! Welcome!",
"Hello, fellow white person from not a shithole country! Welcome to the United Police States of America. ",
"That's actually just cholesterol.",
"I was thinking skinnier Action Bronson.",
"You look like a fucking badass.",
"I fucking seek it out. It's a lot of fun. The world is disgusted by this shit and this all reflects badly on us. At the same time, the next president will get a fresh start. This shit is...extreme. I dont think any past president has ever made us look like this. Has ever acted like this. ",
"There is only one way to naturalize. There is no \"illegal\" way like sneaking into the country. The flag is correct. Star field faces forward. We are used to seeing the other side. ",
"He's white, so probably fine.",
"It's $59,810. Lower than Norway, but still well above the national average. If we went by GDP per capita, the American \"shitholes\" would be a place like, well, Mississippi. ",
"New Jersey is what's up.\n\nCalifornia, Oregon, Washington, and Colorado can talk shit. I don't have anything for them.\n\nBut the rest of you flyover turds can beat it.",
"Sorry",
"When you become an American citizen and drop a rap album in the same day",
"one of the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world, most number of people going bankrupt because they can't afford their medication, most expensive college education, all the while spending 50% of our federal income tax on military industrial complex and dumbass wars we can't even win, growing income inequality = winning I guess. ",
"If you research the cost of living in those places you will likely find that you get a much better quality of life for your income in the US",
"It's pay to win now. Pay $900, leave shithole. ",
"Internet CONGRATS! 🎉🎉",
"> Could anyone that went through the same process tell me how long the rest of the process took after applying for citizenship? \n\nDepends on your field office, since these things are processed locally for the most part. You can look up processing times for your local office [here](https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/processTimesDisplayInit.do) to give you an idea. For me, it took about 3 months, but that was a few years ago and you should expect to wait a lot more than that.\n\nAlso, just a small piece of advice: if you look at the docs for form N-400, you'll see that you can apply as early as 90 days before your 5th anniversary as permanent resident. Be mindful that 90 days is not 3 months, so don't apply early, and don't apply on the 90th day before your anniversary -- just wait a few days, to be safe. ",
"No illegal way to naturalize. People don't know what they are talking about. Its not like illegally sneaking into the USA. ",
"Florida is the only place you can simultaneously have burns on your skin and your soul. ",
"You caught us at a werid time.",
"‘Murcia!!",
"Fuckin' A. Welcome home, buddy!",
"So sorry for you",
"An Eagle would’ve sealed the deal fer me.",
"Congrats! Happy you're here. ",
"I’m from Kenya....another “shithole nation”\n",
"I haven't used anything besides Reddit for news going on around probably since I created this account. Never is a need to use anything else.",
"Only 11 years you say?",
"Well, you must be the guy who hasn't travelled anywhere then. ",
"You look a little old for being eleven years old",
"another one...",
"The endoctrination worked wonders on you.",
"Hell yeah brother!",
"* golf clap *",
"Welcome aboard. ",
"Dj khaled really got in shape",
"Probably down voted because you can't just sneak into being naturalized like you can sneak over the border so saying \"you did it legally\" shows a lack of knowledge about the topic. There is only one process and the name of that agency is listed at the top left of the picture. ",
"You look older than 11. ",
"Bad timing. ",
"Take all the upvotes. ",
"D'you come from some shithole country?",
"hello from canada",
"I agree. Has really great lead tracks but not as dynamic as ( ) or Ageatis Byrjun",
"Why did you want to become an American citizen? ",
"Major key.",
"It’s dj Kalid",
"Welcome to the shitshow",
"Exactly..",
"yeah I also think that those that disagree with me are stupid",
"*indoctrination",
"What shithole did you come from?",
"https://i.imgur.com/YUjACfF.gif",
"What dual citizenship are you coming for? I only ask because I've heard you have to renounce your American citizenship to get any other. I'm sure that's not 100% true, but now I'm interested.",
"You don't look like you are from Norway. And here I thought from here on out only Norwegians get to be citizens here.",
"This is what pisses me off the most about the anti-immigrant American’s “herrrr durrrr come to America legally durrr” argument. It takes 13 fucking years. I used to work with a guy who has been waiting for years, too, him and his family. He would have nightmares about immigration coming to get them. I don’t understand why the whole process can’t be overhauled to be at least shortened by, oh I don’t know, ten fucking years. Jesus. ",
"You said it, man.",
"Just a shit ton of money.",
"You aint from one of them shithole countries is you",
"As an American citizen, I want that certificate.",
"Welcome to citizenship! Be awesomely great with your new superpowers.",
"What's good? How's Canada?",
"what took u so long?!?",
"As a prior Marine Sgt, and young expat; I love this so much. \n\nGood on you brother. it's not doing so hot, but welcome to the greatest country on the planet. ",
"Congrats man! Where are you from?",
"Only country with freedom of speech or running away from Communist government like my family ",
"I've done the same, and can confirm. Cheers mate.",
"What shithole country did you come from? /s",
"Congrats friend!",
"Countries where you have practically no right to defend your life and property? No thank you, I'm good.",
"I recommend a Sig SP2022. Hard to beat for value. Or just go straight to an AR if you wanna skip the USA tutorial and get right to the game!",
"Fuck yeah my dude!\nEnjoy the crap out of it OP",
"The citizenship applicants are given a red book to study when they take their fingerprints a couple months before the interview. Check with them a few years after the naturalization process and they will know just as much as everyone else. ",
"Not everybody has the means to just go and move to another country, so stop your crying and move on. ",
"it will be - but spell check right now separates the two words currently....",
"Trump will approve of you.",
"Lol why would you join ? You should join scientology too",
"You don't need to be a citizen to own a gun.",
"HOLY SHIT. I LITERALLY THOUGHT THIS EXACT PHRASE WHEN I SAW THE TITLE.\n\nThen I got sad, because that's what people think when they think of immigration now...",
"Random people aren’t inherently stupid, so I’d be more inclined to say “poorly educated.”",
"Great through trumps eyes. Your skin is no where near the shithole scale. ",
"Congrats and thank you for taking the time and dedication to achieve your citizenship. Wish more would. ",
"You look like that big gay security guard in orange is the new black.\n\nI mean that as a compliment ",
"You also? Where did I say anything like that? This is what I'm talking about here lol. ",
"At first glance I thought you were Dj Khaled.",
"And your Muddah. \n\nSincerely Real New Jersey.",
"Serious question and not starting a fight either way. What's your views on illegal immigration? ",
"Soulbound.",
"I came here to ask the same exact thing. \nHave your upvote!",
"He's white.... He won't have that problem",
"Nah",
"Grats on not being a shithole citizen anymore ",
"Thought you were DJ Khaled",
"White ones huh?",
"Honestly though, that place is a real shithole.",
"Congrats, be free, and welcome!",
"Welcome aboard!",
"In the wild ladies and gentlemen",
"I know this dude and I love him. Well deserved baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!’",
"Probably both",
"Chilly weather, hot coffee. Not too bad I say.",
"> I only live for so long..\n\nBut your quality of live can be much more improved in the future if you pay attention to the news (e.g. net neutrality, Trump making terrible decisions every week, etc.)\n\nIf you then act on it by being an informed voter, your life quality can increase. ",
"Congratulations DJ Khaled!",
"Majestic",
"One of us.. one of us.. one of us...",
"Thanks babe",
"Shock Humour is something that's supposed to be funny while at the same time socially taboo.\n\nThis is just so shitty you can't help but laugh lest you cry. ",
"He did say it, seconding this, dude. ",
"I really don't see Haiti pulling that off...",
"And the russians invented the satellite. Your point being? lol\n\nYou should be able to criticize the country you live in, that just shows how much love you have for it.",
"Congrats DJ Khaled ",
"And then it just blows",
"Intelligence is not the same as knowledge.\n\n\nPeople in this country were *made* to be ignorant.",
"Definitely think Agaetis Byrjun is my favourite album.",
"Huck?!?",
"He's from Maldova. \n",
"Sorry you had to see us like this.",
"Welcome",
"Complete with your hypsterass, masculine affirming beard. Way to go there coachee!!",
"Alabama. Confirmed shithole by a UN Delegation.",
"How are you going to get a good record on a person? 3 years is nothing.",
"Youre making America great my friend ",
"We have.... Sand)':",
"Congrats and welcome, sir! Now do your patriotic duty...PLEASE vote in our elections. :)",
"At one time this actually would’ve been a legitimate thing.",
"Yeah, it’s very sad. I have many close friends from those countries that he spoke so poorly about. ",
"If you lie on your residency and citizenship applications, that is a crime.\n\nhttps://apnews.com/37dc7aef0ce44077930b7436be7bfd0d",
"I apologize for the loud, obnoxious, insensitive asshole Americans you too will also come to know and love...",
"We are *not* the greatest county in the world. \nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs&t=46s",
"Moldova",
"The USCIS waives over $500 million in fees per year and charges others more to make up for it. It is a fee based agency not run on taxes. I am guessing this guy probably paid. The people Trump allegedly referred to usually don't pay for naturalization and make guys like this guy pay $900 instead of about $400. ",
"(Looks around) (no one disagrees)",
"Welcome to America, from Canada! Fuck off where full. ",
"only pretty korean women*",
"Piscatella you ain't fooling anyone ",
"But we need you to be constantly thinking about it with us and blathering your opinion so we can make the world perfect and stop nuclear war. ",
"Welcome!!!! Glad to have you, fellow American! ",
"huh, so pretend arrests were a bad idea? whoda thunk it.",
"That's crazy. When I was in school they drilled that stuff in our heads, and we all took the test (not for a class grade) to see if we would pass. Most of my classmates passed the test.",
"\"Have your friend shot for charity!\"\n\n... Wait, at what point does it just become a hit?",
"Congratulations!",
"Atta BOY. Thank you for doing it properly. You deserve it.",
"Pork Roll",
"He’s not wrong though. Is there anyone who thinks Haiti isn’t a shit hole? He just said what everyone is thinking and we attack him for it. Honestly it’s hypocritical of everyone. He needs to speak in a classier manner but he didn’t say anything that’s not true. ",
"Every day, Reddit reminds us of our mediocrity.",
"But... if you lose all your other papers, how do you prove your identity to the bank to get to the safety deposit box?",
"Why would you want to be an american ? ",
"We have some of the best school systems and universities in the country, which is why our constituents are a little less stupid.",
"This is Trump speaking. Can I borrow your citizenship certificate? No? Thanks anyway. *grabs it* Deport this young man",
"He does like bears. At least that's what he said when I was boning him",
"Moon pies. #jasperforthewin",
"CAN YOU?",
"Not that much different in other countrys ",
"I think you mean despite all the negative covfefe.",
"Please tell me you read the manual...",
"\" ya-motha \" \n\nClose. Were you at in Jersey fam?",
"Welcome!!!",
"Hes got a beard! Get him!",
"You been watching the news lately?",
"I can smell the freedom musk pouring from this post ",
"I would agree with that. But I disagree with the notion that being Dynamic is necessarily better. It can be, like in the case of Ageatis Byrjun. But Valtari is my personal favorite album from them. \n\nThere are plenty of albums from artists that focus tonally and sonically on a certain idea and carry that through the whole project and it can work just as well imo. And I think Valtari is an example of Sigur Ros doing just that and masterfully well. \n",
"I'm not, sadly. I'm in a shithole.",
">if you hate it so much just leave\n\nI couldn't think of a more backwards, unamerican thought process. This country was founded by people who hated the government and wanted change. Instead of sending dissenting opinions away, how about we stop sucking our own dicks and change the country for the better. You know, \"Make America Great Again\".",
"Clean line up ",
"Is this the official backdrop of immigration services? Because if it is, I’m proud.",
"No need to be racist now",
"Italian. They view citizenship via bloodline so my \"catch\" if you will is my great great grandparents had my great grandpa a year after they came to America, but that was before they became Americans themselves. So my great grandpa was American (born here) but Italy considered him Italian as well because he was born to an Italian. He never knew that. It's done via bloodline so unless someone officially renounced, it continues down the generations. I'll admit it sounds crazy, but that's how it is. My grandpa nor dad never knew a thing, nor did I until I read about this last year. After some reading/learning/searching, I was able to come up with all the proof I needed, aka all the birth marriage and death records dating from me back to Italy ( shown here: https://i.imgur.com/EjCZs20.jpg ). It cost me about $1,000 all in all, but my appointment went well. I had all the needed docs, so they are now processing things. My closest Italian consulate seems to have a history of taking about 8-10 months to process things. So in another 6-8 months, I'll magically get an email saying I have been \"recognized\" and I can come pick up a passport. \n\n\nThe US has a policy of basically not having a policy on dual citizens. They recognize the concept, but don't care about it. There's no negatives of me having it, with the 1% issue of if I had a career that dealt with getting government clearance, they can question dual citizenship and perhaps I wouldn't get the job. That's it. Because of the EU agreements, once I'm recognized, I can move/live/work anywhere in the EU just as I can anywhere in the US. Pretty damn awesome huh?",
"Backwards flag",
"Of Uzbekistan? ",
"Welcome home!",
"That shoots freedom seeds!",
"Congrats brother. Who was the 23rd President and what was his hobby?\n",
"Step one: Be an American.\n\nStep two: Don't not be an American.",
"He could get an M1 Garand for 650 bucks from the Civilian Marksmanship Program which requires proof of citizenship. It's the same rifle they used in World War II and the Korean War. Nothing more freedom than that. ",
"He's obviously Haitian and we welcome him",
"Congratulations and welcome. Officially anyway.",
"Can someone riddle me this. Why is reddit saturated with so much anti-american BS and then stuff like this makes it to the front page. If it’s so bad here why do we celebrate people making it here?",
"That's because you aren't factoring in the massive debt from healthcare/education.",
"Time for your first desk pop!!",
"I’d rather try to change the country for the better than see it crumble.",
"Heck off goose, you know exactly what it's like up here. Go bother the Americans for six months.",
"Welcome friend!",
"That's the most American reply possible given the past and present American scenario",
"RemindMe! [50 years] [Did Haiti pull it off?]",
"Have you even been to Chicago?",
"Majestic AF 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸",
"My condolences.",
"Might want to reconsider -can become an Australian in 4.",
"Congratulations DJ Khaled!",
"You, and others like you, are what helps us move forward as a country. Some people say that Americans as a group have no one common thread that binds us. Horse shit. All of us (insert obligatory mention of Native Americas here) are descended from people who were bad-ass enough to leave their entire lives behind in search of something (hopefully) better. \nYou are most welcome.",
"Welcome to our shithole country.",
"Day started at 48 and rainy, ended at 13 with a blizzard in there for good measure. ",
"Oh dear child, so glad your parents are keeping you from hearing the filth that exits our dear orange leader's mouth hole",
"http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/11/politics/immigrants-shithole-countries-trump/index.html",
"Intelligent people are less likely to be ignorant.. ",
"Most likely, the guy was part of the dictatorship, \"extracted\" by the US, and he was panicking at the thought of paying for his long due crimes.",
"daddy",
"Model minority. \n\nNone of these asians: Laotian/Hmong, Vietnamese, Khmer, Russian, Bangladeshi, Indonesian, Cantonese speaking Chinese folks... \n\nJust your prettiest Koreans please.",
"Bless up flag lovas! Namsayin?",
"LA actually. Californiastan is a real shithole.",
"Congrats! Thank god you ain't Indian or Chinese else it would have taken you your whole life to get a citizenship unless you marry an American citizen. ",
"We don't want your asshole geese. Keep them.",
"You look normal, why are you on Reddit",
"We have no idea if this guy lied on any of his paperwork. There is still only one way to naturalized. You can't just pop up and say...oh hey I am naturalized now. The \"you did it the right way\" conversation here is not really equal to the method of entry into the United States which can be done with permission or without. Over 50% of people who got their green cards from within the United States, as opposed to coming in with an immigrant visa, had violated the immigration law in some way by overstaying their visa, etc, before being granted permanent resident status. It is very common but Congress has some built in exceptions for people known as \"immediate relatives\" which includes the spouses, children, and parents of United States citizens. ",
"Stars always lead the way. Look at the flag patches on Navy SEALs uniforms and you’ll see the flag just like that. ",
"So which shit hole did you come from?",
"Except it's racist reality",
"Proud of you...but Canada might have been a better choice.",
"welcome to 'MERICA. you need a little more red white and blue in your wardrobe, but the beard is a nice start.",
"Welcome to our country. Things might seem hectic right now but we are revamping everything, and on a fast track to becoming great again. Let us know if you need anything.",
"OP, are you gay? Asking for a friend.",
"“herrrr durrrr come to America legally durrr”\n\nWhat the fuck? Are you mocking people who want others to follow the law? Like honestly. Just because it takes a while to become a full citizen, doesn't mean illegal immigration is better.\n\n",
"Welcome home!",
"<american flag whipping violently in the wind>",
"Congrats! As always, vote responsibly!",
"And that's just to become a citizen. There's another three to 10 years way just to get here. I dated a girl whose parents were from the Philippines. Her mom was on a list for 6 years before she even got to come over and then another 13 years just to get her citizenship. ",
" Welcome to the fall.",
"I'm from the future.\n\nNo.",
"Congradulations!",
"Inb4 people accuse you of being privileged to be able to do it the legal way.",
"Real question:\n\nDo you guys find the cartoon eagle with the Freedom Gaze TM and the tear in his eye very tacky? Why not just a regular eagle in a nest? Why does it always have to be the same eagle from the same angle?",
"Congratulations fellow citizen!!!",
"Major migration*",
"Are you fucking kidding me? You think the problem is the *LANGUAGE*?! The problem is that, to his mind, anyone coming from a \"shithole\" country (IE = anywhere with black people) has no business in America, unlike people from \"Norway (IE = white people). It is further a problem that he paints this brush across an entire continent the size of Europe and North America combined. They're all \"shitholes\" to you? All you can do is vomit up Haiti? \n \nNever-fucking-mind that 25% of all Nigerian immigrants have a Master's or higher (compared to 10% of white Americans). They're \"shithole\" people who we don't need in America. \n \nThat you don't comprehend this is unfathomable. ",
"That’s terrible I’m so sorry.",
"How many Americans have good records? ",
"They're easy if you care. If you have never had to care before, you aren't going to start for some little 9th-grade Civics teacher-makes-you-think project.",
"To know and be.\n\nFtfy",
"Congratulations on becoming a United States citizen! Welcome to the club!",
"congrats",
"DJ Khaled",
"Looks more like that guy asshole guard from ONITB",
"but is it pronounced like Shithead or shithead?",
"\"Herrrr durrrr come to America legally durrr\"\n\n\n\nYeah buddy. Follow the laws. Go figure. Herrr durrrr not like any other first world nation has herrr durrrrr immigration wait times just as long herrrr durrrrr. \n\nFucking Hodor over here. ",
"Ignorance is bliss. It's a very happy feeling to not know that your house is on fire. \n \nOf course....your house is still on fire, isn't it? ",
"It's amazing how long the process takes to become a US citizen. Meanwhile, a grandparent born in Ireland and a couple hundred bucks later, suddenly I'm an Irish citizen without even needing to leave my house...",
"Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m doing. I’m mocking people who want other people who want a fair chance at a decent life to continue to wait out a life of poverty and hardship, or whatever their situation, until however many years pass so that it’s “their turn”. That’s exactly what I’m doing. Either the people who make this argument are willfully ignorant of the requirements for becoming an American citizen, or they know exactly how fucked up it is and just don’t care. ",
"Chris Christie is somehow a beacon of light in the fight against opioid addiction.",
"Congratulations! And welcome!!! ",
"The same people saying it probably have never left America",
"That's a lot of facial hair for an 11 year old!",
"Hey, congratulations!!! :)",
"Welcome, brother! May happiness and success follow all your endeavors! ",
"Legal ones. And he isn't white.",
"It would have taken longer to become a resident perhaps because there are numerical limitations and we don't want to only let people come in from 2-3 countries. ",
"At first I thought this was Dj khalid",
"Welcome aboard! Your life vest is under the seat.",
"Seriously can't wait for this to be me!!! 2 more years to go!!! 26 years in total!!! ",
"And many third world countries also have a higher gdp than Norway. Whats your point? ",
"Damn. Canada is wild. \n\nHope your igloos held up man /s \n\nIn all seriousness stay safe out there. Shits cold. ",
"Well, we’re not talking about “any other first world nation”, are we, Buddy? ",
"Went digging through his post history because I became actually curious and couldn't find the answer here. It's Moldova.",
"Congrats bro!!.",
"Congratulations!",
"Shithole state.\n\nI'm typing this in Florida",
"Freebeard 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸",
"Isn’t that piscatella from orange is the new black? ",
"I've met people from all over the world and not once thought any nation was a \"shithole.\" One of the most recent and wonderful people I met was from Ghana. It was a huge culture shock to me to learn all about her country.",
"r/photoshopbattles",
"Have a burger and some coke. You have arrived. Welcome to the greatest country on earth :) I’m glad you’re here",
"Yeah that seems most likely.",
"After becoming a permanent resident one can apply 3-5 years later for naturalization. I am guessing this 11 year estimate starts when he first came to the United States. ",
"Can confirm. Took my family 13 years as well.",
"By that same logic, wouldn’t it be way worse that people are illegally hopping the line? Skipping 13 years of hard work by legal immigrants? ",
"Good work dj Khaled ",
"Victorian here. Had bikes out last week.\n\nRained a bit today though. Had to put a light jacket on.",
"Congratulations ya big ol American!",
"I fucking love these posts. Upvote every time. Congratulations to you, Sir.",
"It's a reference to another joke made by comedian/writer Ali Wong ",
"Congratulations-welcome aboard ",
"Welcome to the club! ( No girls allowed - except they are so disregard this)",
"Yes - getting a permanent residency through H1B for Indians and Chinese is set at 30+ years now, thanks to the influx of people from those countries seeking a better life/education/career here in the United States. Completely agree on the diversity part. ",
"Well you could legally apply for a study/work visa from your home country and come here legally, then apply for a green card while you're here. Also, it's only 5 years to become a citizen after you've gotten your green card.",
"Ummm congratulations? Now you can be embarrassed like the majority of us.",
"Welcome bruda. You have found da wae. ",
"No one says \"fuck you\" as well or as properly as Jersey.",
"When has it not been like this? ",
"Ok, so suppose that every person living in Africa and central America wanted to come to the USA. Should we let them all in immediately with no constraints? Surely that wouldn't fuck up the economy. Dumbass",
"Congratulation. Do you color your Hair in Red, from \"Red, White and Blue\" ",
"Another one ...",
"Dj kahled was the star of pitch perfect 3",
"Congrats, dude! :D",
"Nah I wouldn't say large amount and instead say all of the population\n\nGiant Meteor 2020",
"Despite all the shit going down in America, this is still a special country for many incredible reasons. Love seeing all the people reach this milestone and with pride post things like this. I hope that these folks feel the support of many of us American’s and choose not to believe in the belittling comments of presidents and some others. Don’t let take from what you have sacrificed and worked so hard for.",
"Most of reddit is Anti-Trump. What is interesting though is that Trump is in charge of the agency that naturalized this guy and also Trump's video congratulating him played at the ceremony. Trump's photo also hangs in the lobby of the building. This guy and millions of people of all walks will be naturalized by the Trump administration.",
"Gutted. Americans are treated like shit by their government. ",
"It’s not right, no, but I’m not advocating. It’s the fact that people even feel that they have to try to make it here illegally because they don’t feel they’ll ever get here legally that’s the problem. ",
"It helps that you look white ",
"Star field forward. We are used to seeing the reverse side.",
"I'm sorry",
"I remember my swearing in date, December 15,2005. I wore my dress blues. ",
"Welcome to the party pall. Remember to keep you back and knees healthy. We don't bow down, we don't kneel. ",
"I want to say that I am so very happy for you, make the best of it! One day I’ll be able to say the same. ",
"Yeah but do you want more bad records?",
"this is a NC statute as well. ",
"welcome Brother!",
"People like you are what pisses me off about those who demand clemency for their illegal status. You did it the more difficult but correct way: you deserve to be a citizen. I congratulate, admire and welcome you to your new country.",
"damn thick daddy. you are so sessy, where'd you immigrate from?",
"And here I was thinking that it was a Muslim beard. ",
"I can hear “America the beautiful” playing just looking at this pic",
"Congrats!",
"Canada is a lot faster - I recently became a Permanent resident of Canada, and it took me 4 months. I just need to be in the country for 3 years, and I'd become a Canadian citizen. I currently live in the US, but planning to move to Canada permanently in May (I'm not an American citizen or PR btw, although I've lived here for 8 years now)",
"The timer on your bankruptcy from medical expenditures has started... now",
"https://youtu.be/r_Ua8iOR0g8",
"Trump is in charge of the agency that naturalized this guy. Trump's photo is in the lobby of the building. Trump has a congratulations video that plays after they are sworn in. I know that is hard for you to comprehend.",
"Welcome to the fucking circus, pal.",
"Yeah Ohio was exactly the same. Walked into the office with rain, walked out in rain like 2 hours after everyone else panic-rushed home and it was still just rain... then got home and it snowed like 6 inches in a few hours.",
"Oh man, has no one told him?",
"I thought he looked more like Frank from *The Office* - the warehouse guy who vandalizes Pam's mural.",
"Right, you can apply, but it also costs at least $200, at least in my area, to even do that. Add to that a handful of other requirements that not everyone who isn’t an American citizen can meet, and there’s your problem. ",
"Canada is a lot better about it. We’re merit based so it helps streamline the process ",
"surprised to see so much upvotes on a \"shit hole country \" comment, how would you feel when someone calls your country the same. Not implying the same but I think we should respect all countries.",
"No you keep them. It's no problem really.",
"Now *you* live in a shithole too!",
"To quote you, \"if you hated it here so much, why don't you leave?\" \n\nStop moaning about other people moaning.",
"It doesn't take that long TBH - A standard background check by the FBI takes only 3 months. ",
"If not Norwegian, just \"Hi.\"",
"Welcome to our shithole country.",
"Major key",
"As someone who is Norwegian I am so freaking pissed that Trump used us an example. WE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, TRUMP.",
"Vote for the person who was in the congratulations video played at your ceremony.... :)",
"Congrats patriot!",
"Feeling biggly yet?",
"I love Haiti. I can't wait to go back. I have nothing but good things to say about the people there and the beauty of the land. Many countries could be described as \"shitholes\", and yes Haiti could be on that list. America could be as well. Hell, basically any country is a fucking shithole. That's not the point though. At all. \n\nIn regards to Trump it's all about the context. Regardless of what he or his supporters say, he was talking about the people of those countries. Yes, in a literal sense he said the area itself but let me offer one viewpoint. \n\nThe comments were made in response to immigration discussion. When you're talking about the lives of **individuals** and you base your decision on the fact that the country is poor or has poor infrastructure (aka - a shithole), you are calling those people shitty. You are not calling out the government or the geography. Even though you may seem to be aiming for the following, you are not saying \"well, those areas have high crime so let's discuss that aspect and who we could let in from that country\". All nuance is removed with a statement like the one Trump made. It's not good.\n\nHe is just completely ignoring the fact that so many people have immigrated here from \"shithole\" countries and changed the US for the better. He is directly attacking the people of Haiti whether he realizes it or not. \n\nThis country was built on people from \"shitholes\". Disregarding a person just because they come from a place you may consider a shithole is pretty fucked up if you want to call yourself an American. \n\nAnd that's ignoring the fact that this guy is the President, where the person holding the title needs to be held to a higher standard than anyone else. \n\n\n**Edit:** I also want to add that Trump's opinion of this is basically \"fuck letting in anyone from a poor country in. Let's let in people from places like Sweden\". **That makes no goddamn sense.** People from Sweden or most European countries for that matter will not immigrate here in any large number. They have no need to. We have no reason to believe we'd be worse off by letting people from struggling countries in. Look at our history. *We'd be fucked if that was our viewpoint during the late 1800's - early 1900's.*\n\nThe US will not have competitive immigration by enacting Trump's outlook because we would not have have any significant immigration whatsoever. The whole defense of these comments is just stupid to me. He could have used different rhetoric and made a way more coherent point that is still essentially saying the same thing without attacking a group of people who do not deserve it. Like, he's so close to just suggesting no immigration whatsoever, which is a bad idea, but at least it wouldn't be inherently racist. I'd still disagree with it on the basis that our immigration systems in place are already effective in vetting those coming in. The process now and as it has been for a while ensures that when we let in immigrants from \"shitholes\", they are generally very much not a threat and end up **contributing to our society**. At least he'd be giving people less of a reason to believe he is racist, and is instead just an isolationist. ",
"Never said people should be allowed to come freely here from other countries. Surely reading comprehension is a thing where you’re from, dumbass. ",
"Um in the process of doing this... how hard is the interview with the questions?? do you do any studying besides the book they give you when you go do your biometrics?? ",
"Me too! Cadman Plaza in Brooklyn... Someone was farting the whole 3 hours we waited for the judge, i hated that person but I also felt bad for them, imagine the cramps....\n but otherwise pretty smooth. It took me 8 years... I'm beyond happy and actually got a little emotional when the swearing actually happened.\n\n\nEdit: 8 years after getting my greencard, so actually 11.",
"None of that \"French\" fry nonsense.",
"Sooooo why don't you leave? Like, you're free to leave at any time to any country you want.",
"Its not the point. Besides I didnt direct this to people with your tiny mind. Always trying to defend his racism. Racism is racism no matter what. But I do have to say that we're blessed that Hillary isn't Prez or Kanye. Thatd be terrible.",
"This is what pisses me off. Some whiny pissy vegan thinks they know better than all the people who came before us to write these laws. Sorry i had to.. but yea you're a complete tool. These laws were enacted to protect both citizens and immigrants alike. Too many people were flocking to America searching for the dream, only to be abused by people who paid them pennies and threatened them if they spoke up. Could it all be streamlined im sure a little, but why sacrifice due diligence for convenience. I mean most of the people who want to live in America cant even afford the 900 dollars for the application. But i'm sure you give thousands to those people to help them get here, and not just bitch about it on reddit. AmIRight?",
"Bad time to become a citizen. Economy's going to do a repeat of the '08 recession in the next couple years, but harder.",
"Best apart from an utterly broken healthcare system, violence against black people, corrupt politicians, racism, a president with the mind of a 5 year old, a country where visiting the ER costs thousands, where cancer can mean both bankruptcy and a death sentence, a country where education costs more than most people's mortgage, a country where cops can gun down black men and face no justice, where religious figures can molest children and run for government positions.\n\nThe United Shitholes of America\n\nAmerica is pockets of safe, clean neighborhoods separated by vast stretches of zombie-apocalypse wasteland. \n\nSorry for your loss.\n",
"We are the only state in the country that does not have to pump our own gas.\n\nSuck it Oregon.",
"Where were you from?",
"San Antonio resident here: why the hate? I've traveled a LOT, and San Antonio is actually a very nice city. And I'm not even from this state, much less this city; I actually chose to move here.",
"Congrats. But only if you plan to vote Democrat.",
"Congrats ",
"I’m disgusted by the partisanship in my country. It makes us look intellectually lazy and petty. I hate that I have to qualify these statements with “I don’t think trump is a good guy”",
"That describes pretty much everyone. Humanity didn't pop up all over the planet at once you know.",
"You can't just apply for green card as a non resident alien.",
"Welcome to the party!",
"Trust me, my parents were born in one of those “shithole countries”. It feels bad when the president of my country says it.",
"How was your overall experience? From the beginning to the end of the process? If you don't mind ",
"I know it is frustrating. The people that are closer to the United States have often just came over the border illegally or others have overstayed non-immigrant visas and have married United States citizens which has no numerical limitation. That is not very fair at all. ",
"China numbah wahn",
"So never once did Trump say or talk about race but you are entirely 100% making it about racism and then projecting that racism onto trump when all trump said was that Haiti was a shithole which in fact it is and yet I’m the insane crazy person who you can’t fathom doesn’t understand the racism because I said was he’s not wrong about Haiti being a shithole. \n\nThe media has really whipped your brains up into something haven’t they? ",
"Welcome to the greatest nation in human history!!",
"I ask this on every post like but why choose our shithole country? ",
"We forgot them freedom fries",
"> Ok, so suppose that every person living in Africa and central America wanted to come to the USA. Should we let them all in immediately with no constraints?\n\nReading comprehension is not your strength. I don't think he is advocating for that. Add that to the list of counter-arguments.\n\n*rayofkeywork*\n> Hey guys we should make it a little easier than taking 20 fucking years to become citizen.\n\n*GoBucks13*\n> Urr duh, what do you want, just everyone coming in instantly, that will fuck up muh property values. du huah.",
"If this mofo looked like a mexican, you will read negativity, 2standards",
"And what shit-hole country did you come here from?\n\nEdit: Err...in case it's not clear I'm totally not serious.\n\nEdit again: Dicks! It's humor! You know, based on outrageous current events. Ha Ha funny kind of thing.",
"Amnesty cuts in front of the line and defeats people like OP who are doing it correctly",
"> Russian\n\nWhat about the ones funding his campaign?",
"now go grab those pussys",
"Ok, send it to my paypal. I’ll give you a link.",
"https://sofrep.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/20120711-215226.jpg\n\nI see it both ways.",
"We love our legal citizens",
"Wow, you looked at my post history to see that I posted once in r/vegan, and now I’m a vegan. lol. \n\nSorry, but we’re not living in the past, when these laws were first enacted. It’s perfectly reasonable to ask that people NOT wait 15-20 years to come to a country where their hard work has a better chance of actually paying off than where they’re from. You sound like an idiot. The fact that you’re arguing for the current immigration process just proves my point. ",
"Welcome to America. ",
"This guy is way more attractive and fit than Khaled, though",
"> A few years ago, the local cops used to do \"fake arrests for charity\"\n\namerica is truly retarded",
"Not sure what OP did but it can take as little as 3 years if you happen to marry an American citizen or 5 years of living in the country if you get in through the DV Lottery, Family sponsorships and such.",
"post this to /r/MURICA and congrats, man!",
"> So never once did Trump say or talk about race but you are entirely 100% making it about racism\n\nOf course it's fucking about racism. What do Haiti and *ALL* of Africa have in common? Why does he paint them with all being \"shitholes\" then immediately pivots to saying he wants \"more Europeans\" like \"From Norway\"? What the *FUCK* do you think the message is?\n \nAre you this stupid? Or are you just a gaslighting Klan member? ",
"Maybe it took 11 years because thousands of illegals cut you in line. Sad.",
"What about Hawaii? I mean, with the volcanos, surely shit gets burned.",
"That’s too bad for Canada, but we’re not discussing Canada. ",
"That was my first thought as well. Hope he is a nicer dude though.",
"Should have moved to Canada ",
"Zing!",
"Just in time...",
"congrats on doing it the right way!",
"I just got my passport and paid for the card as well for this exact purpose. \n\nI recently renewed my license but didn't go into the DMV to do it so I couldn't get the realid compliant version. Oh well.",
"Careful, it's getting weird around here. Anyhow, welcome to the United States of Russia.",
">\tThe US invented the cellphone\n\nThis is fake news. Finding source now.\n\n[Fake news, communists did it first](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Kupriyanovich).",
"Before, or after the fake arrest?",
"Coincidentally, it’s the same actor. ",
"Who are you? Unless you are using an alternative account, I don't think you and I were talking. ",
"Florida, America's flaccid penis",
"Haiti is a generally a terrible place. They want TPS because it is so bad they don't want to go back right? That is why so many have come here from Haiti and want to come here. I understand why. The place I originated from in the United States was a shit hole as well. Some places are shit holes. ",
"Terrible move, welcome being a tax slave for the rest of your life.",
"Congratulations, DJ Khaled!",
"You look older than 11",
"Not everyone in the world is entitled to being an American citizen. Wanting people to follow our laws doesn't mean we are retarded like you seem to think. Get over yourself, ignorant fuck.",
"get mandatory minimum",
"Congrats :) Don't forget to vote in the next election! ",
"Welcome. In a few days you will receive your complimentary gun and Apple pie in the post.",
"I guess I’ll just stay in the US and spread communism around then.",
"Da you mean Russia comrade",
"Not true. Knowledge does not imply someone is intelligent nor ignorance implies someone is not intelligent.\n\nYou can be knowledgeable and dumb and you can be knowledgeable and intelligent as you can be ignorant and dumb and ignorant and intelligent.",
"Taylor ham. And it's still shit. Egg bagels on the other hand are delicious. ",
"Should have just walked in through Mexico like millions of others do and had a kid. Much quicker ",
"Well done!!\n",
"> Well you could legally apply for a study/work visa from your home country and come here legally, then apply for a green card while you're here.\n\nThat's the part that takes waaay too long for some or never can happen for some because we need to keep to them quotas.",
"/u/GovSchwarzenegger you have been [surpassed](http://i.imgur.com/FQeqe0c.jpg).",
"Welcome you magnificently bearded bastard",
"Insert awkward moment seal here.",
"Pretty shitty time to join the club but it'll get better soon.",
"Which shithole are you from? ",
"It’s Huck from Scandal. Good for you. ",
"Welcome brother. It's always great to see folks do it the right way.",
"Diners in nearly every town. High as fuck at 3 am? Go get some mothafuckin pancakes or any of the other thousand things on the menu.",
"A kid can't petition for the parent until age 21 so that is a bit of slower process. ",
"What ever gets you through the day ",
"Lol you are just ignorant. The cost of living in Nordic countries is insane. I actually tried to move there. When you do the research you realize they tax the shit out of you and everything is super expensive.",
"Just a question, what is an adequate amount of time to both get here and become a citizen in your eyes?\n\nI would think 5 years to get your citizenship whenever you come over. The wait to get here, I assume, is mostly because more people apply for visas than can get them in a year and I don't know how we can change that.",
"I thought you died last season",
"When trump says it, its like trump is saying it. But when thousands of civilized people on reddit upvote that thing its like they support the notion of saying Shit-hole.\n\nFeel you , bro. p.s. do you face racism in your state?",
"Time is such a precious thing to us humans. So sad to waste so much of it on paperwork. ",
"Majestic, and erotic?",
"Congrats man! Really nailed that freedom look in that pic. Most American thing I've seen all day haha",
"It's a good way to gauge ourselves, you smug fuck.",
"Congratulations!! Thank you for choosing us!! ",
"He was already a resident for at least 3-5 years, presumably paying taxes.",
"Another one ",
"Best health technology, success rate, and quality of care in the world. Literally the second highest wages in the world behind Luxembourg. A military force that's sheer size and superiority is the biggest deterrent to another major war in the western world keeping you cozy behind a computer screen instead of behind conscripted. Majority of mandatory spending is spent on social programs. Stop being naive.",
"Cool, where in the great white north you settling down?",
"U.S. citizens aren't just free to leave and go anywhere they want. Immigrating to any European country (for example) and practically every industrialized nation on the planet is just as difficult as immigrating to the States, so it isn't quite as simple as packing your bags and booking a flight. Emigrating will simply never be an option for most people. And I sincerely hope you don't believe our country is the only one with basic infrastructure that allows its citizens to criticize their government. Only the willfully ignorant or those indoctrinated by the media who have never spent any time abroad would make such a ludicrous claim. \n\nMany people—including me—believe that dissent is the highest form of patriotism. If we didn't bitch and moan and fight for change, nothing would ever improve.",
"“I’m sorry the house is such a mess. If I had known you were coming I would have mopped the floors. Or impeached the President.”",
"Congrats, welcome to the best country on this planet.",
"butt",
"Uhh, most of us. Nice whataboutism though, dumbass.",
"I understand where you’re coming from. \n\nI did a lot when I was younger, it’s become much more subtle as I grow older.",
"Congrats!",
"You don't gain credibility by citing CNN.",
"It was sarcasm...",
"Hey cool, my family came from there in 1906. Small world. \n\n",
"That’s... actually not even the argument. Wanting people to follow the law is not the argument at all. ",
"Yes it is. It's mountain ms of paperwork, and a lawyer if you're smart. If you make one mistake on the forms, you can get deported. Most people hire layers. Depending on the backlog, it takes a long time to hear back. It also depends where you file.",
"WELL DONE, SIR!!\n\n🎉🎉👍🏻",
"This put a big smile on my face. Welcome to the U.S! You look like a fun guy to hang out with, what a great addition.",
"because we can actually see him now?",
"There is no way an F or J visa has double intent. Maybe the L and the H1B, but you'd need for your employer to say that they couldn't hire an American for your position, it takes time and lawyers and won't always be granted.\n\nIf you come on a visa that doesn't have double-intent (immigration and non-immigration) at the same time, then you risk being deported. If you come on a tourist visa, then get married and try to change your status while in the country, you risk being deported and banned from entering the United States for 5 years.",
"That pic is sure to give the ladies Wild Thoughts.",
"After you make copies that are notarized and email pictures to everyone in your phone. And take a picture and frame it. ",
"I am guessing he applied as soon as he was eligible to so he was probably out of status (illegal) for several years before becoming a lawful permanent resident or perhaps he was a student or something like that for a while. ",
"You’re either a troll or just incredibly fucking stupid. ",
"I see you didn't take any English, its called sarcastic expression. As for the wait, yes it is quite a long time to wait. So is paying off a car, or a mortgage. But if you really want a house you have to make those payments sweetie. Or are you just one of those people who think everyone gets a free house!!!! You also have to wait to vote, but what the hell let 8 year old Timmy vote for mickey mouse. And we can even lower the drinking age, and revoke child labor laws, because its every child's right to work. Get a clue man, politics is way beyond your knowledge threshold. ",
"The United States has merit based immigration protocols too, ala Justin Biebs driving the speed of light through Miami in his chromed out space ship and smiling for the mugshot.",
"Likely not, the problem is a large scale prisoner's dilemma. \n\nWe all individually have a small effect on the whole. For each person who does not pay attention, their own life becomes meaningfully easier and everyone's becomes a tiny meaningless amount harder. The \"ideal\" result is that everyone pays attention and we all end up better off because those tiny meaningless amounts add up to a larger influence. \n\nBut your own selfish best move is always to not care. I can say your vote will not swing the election with the same certainty I can say that buying a lottery ticket is not a good retirement plan.",
"Not everyone needs to be an American citizen..",
"Mine’s next Friday!",
"warms my heart.\n\nGlad to have you and may opportunity find you.\n\nPeople from anywhere who come and put the time and effort in to become a legal citizen are people I believe will make this country much better. ",
"of the 10 countries that immigrate most to the US, none are white countries.",
"Yeah I really don't get the hate. I met an American couple at De Gualle airport in Paris, I asked where they were from, they said Staten Island and then they laughed when I said New Jersey. Like Staten Island is some kind of pinnacle of beauty and culture.",
"You came out of a shithole. Does that make you a terrible person? Does that mean you wouldnt deserve to be sheltered if you were stuck in a natural disaster scenario?\n\nWhat about the whole President Obama thing? I know he was a questionable president but seriously? He couldnt have been worse than Nixon. And always asking for his birth certificate? And still questioning his citizenship? Is that not racism",
"Your right. You were born here and deserve a better life than anyone born anywhere else!",
"Welcome. We are lucky to have you. ",
"Hey now. This is where America comes to die.",
"Welcome to the shit show. \n\nDon't get sick, and don't get shot by the police. ",
"There are no illegal citizens. There are illegal aliens. ",
"show me your guns first, then you will be 100% American Citizen.",
"Actually i'm a Filipino American who's entire mother's side immigrated into the US legally. Damn you anti-white people are fucking racist as hell",
"You guys are talking about the same guy! [Brad William Henke](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0377034/)",
"I don’t think you understand the issue. The issue is that becoming a US citizen is extremely difficult compared to how easy it is to get into the country illegally. Our immigration standards need a major overhaul to allow working-class people to enter the country. You shouldn’t have to pay thousands of dollars to become a US citizen. ",
"Enjoy it while it lasts, I guess",
"We also have a PM who is 🔥 ",
"Surely you mean Taylor ham :D",
"Taylor Ham egg and cheese on an egg bagel is THE shit, not shit buddy.",
"I always see these “American Citizen” posts get so many upvotes and it makes me so happy. These people worked so hard and went through who-knows-what, and so many people recognize someone who was no one at first. Warms my heart. Welcome to America, friend!",
"That's a white shithole. We'll let him in.",
"Toronto, most likely. I've been looking for jobs everywhere though, and if I get a good job elsewhere, I wouldn't mind that either. Montreal appeals to me too, but I'd ideally like to learn French before that.",
"Is that right?",
"Ya first thing I thought of was Piscatella. I wonder how good OP is at tablescaping",
"And you only need to [answer 6 of the 10](https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/Office%20of%20Citizenship/Citizenship%20Resource%20Center%20Site/Publications/100q.pdf) civics questions correctly to pass.",
"Didn't realize you controlled the conversation topics... Smug douche.",
"Get the white van. ",
"Didn't the affordable health care act make it easier for someone in your position to get better health care?",
"You look like a terrorist. Congrats.",
"Why do you hate the global poor?",
"I do this too. My Facebook feed is full of dogs, my Reddit feed is full of sports and my Twitter feed is also full of sports. And tech.",
"GO BACK HOME (as in the building you live in) AND HAVE A PARTY TO CELEBRATE!\n\nCongratulations! (and dope pose)",
"Yea it fucking is. You are trying to make people who expect others to follow our laws look stupid. You must be mentally disabled if you can't see the connection.",
"But Haiti is, indeed, a shithole, so I wouldn't say he's talking out of his ass.",
"Right, because I live in absolute hardship while I wait to be able to pay that last car payment on my loan, or the last installment on my mortgage so that I can actually own my house. Those are totally different issues and not even comparable in a theoretical sense, sweetie. ",
"I wanna see some posts like these of Americans becoming citizens of other countries. Mostly so I can learn how to go about it, and where to move to when the time comes.",
"Better than Texas by fucking far. ",
"I was thinking that asshole guard from Orange is the New Black.",
"Congrats! Working on mine and there is hope from stories like yours. Just got my second civil surgeon appointment today. Good times ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯",
"Congratulations! Welcome! Thank you so much for doing it the legal way.",
"We have no idea how OP got his green card. It could have been from an amnesty program. Look up INA 245(i). Many millions of people got green cards and citizenship through that amnesty program by paying a $1000 penalty but the program is largely silent at this time as everyone who was eligible already claimed it. ",
"oh no",
"Welcome home :)",
"Those nations without national debt like Norway are very difficult to emigrate to.",
"Watch your language, this is a Christian Minecraft server",
"You chose that shithole?",
"Congratulations! And welcome home, American! ;)",
"Crude. Citizenship revoked. Come back in 10 years ",
"Everyone gets one. Well he did pay for it assuming he paid the application fee and it was not waived. ",
"Welcome aboard my man. Congrats. ",
"Welcome fellow American! Our country is both insane and beautiful!",
"Welcome!\n\nI’ve got a friend going thru the process now, I had no idea just how $$$$ it was. She lives in the NE and I’m always telling her that I need to be invited to her ceremony!",
"No, it’s fucking not. Wanting others to follow the law is not the issue. It’s that there are people who are trying to follow the law to get here, and can’t. If you can’t see that, and you want to continue to cherry pick your arguments, you’re beyond help. ",
"Give that man an Eagle",
"You make it seem like this some joke to you. For fucks sake this is why people hate on this country. ",
"He is going to vote for the guy who congratulated him in the welcome video. That is how it works. Its the rule. ",
"Somebody get this man a brick!",
"Nice argument. I guess it's better than nothing,",
"Just curious, what is the illegal way of becoming a citizen?",
"Fuck. Sorry man. ",
"I'd agree that he's rubbed two sticks together in his day",
"Heyyyyy! I know you! Congrats! ",
"Congratulations! We are a better country now because you are a part of it!! ",
"You don't know fuck all about Texas. ",
"No he's being downvoted for hijacking a man's achievement to make a political point.",
"Does everyone get a badass photo like this when they finish the immigration process?",
"Yeah that's kind of the crux. I know that being aware of politics isn't good for my mental standing, but I'd rather be aware what's going on.",
"Welcome to the land of the cheeseburgers ",
"Don't say that too loud.",
"Oh, a minority with opposing viewpoints from you exists. That must be fake, right? That would never happen.",
"We have no idea how he got his green card. He may have benefited from an amnesty program for all we know. ",
"lol Piscatella ",
"He's in Texas, it's standard issue all new citizens are given one.",
"Flag is the wrong way",
"Maybe you should work on your writing first\n\n>I’m mocking people who want other people who want a fair chance at a decent life to continue to wait out a life of poverty and hardship, or whatever their situation, until however many years pass so that it’s “their turn”. \n\nWtf does that even mean?\n\n\nBtw, as an immigrant who became a citizen, I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. The process was long and tedious, but it was completely necessary.\n\nYour entire rant makes no sense because you not only fail to present an actual problem, you don’t even mention any type of solution.",
"Enhance.\n\n\n^Enhance.\n\n\n^^Enhance.",
"...are you retarded?\n\nKhaled is from Louisiana bro. Born and raised.",
"M'kay i'll bite then; just because you were born in America it suddenly gives you the right to view not another nation as inferior, but rather it's people; if it takes 13 damn years for the US to approve their immigration then they damn well aren't a terrorist buddy. ",
"I’m conflicted. I’m about to move to America yet I don’t like America culturally but I love Americans. Is that strange?",
"#metoo",
"Agreed. I have done a lot of traveling, Europe, and Central and South America. I have never seen anywhere I would want to live more than where I am in the US. \n\nSocialized medicine is not all that it seems. Some people have to wait for treatment. It's not as easy to get appointments when they are free for everyone.\n\nPlus, there are many more things I could list. I LOVE the US!",
"Nyc and Boston win that one\n\nNext ",
"Yes and as of right now I am eligible. Which is good cause I take medication just to even function. I’m working to get that going. But there has been a lot of back and forth where trump is trying to remove ACA with his sad excuse of health care.",
"That's great and all but being an American citizen is whatever tbh...",
"What a wonderful contribution to this subreddit",
"If you're middle class +, sure. ",
"This world is your world this world is my world.\n\nFrom the Ice cap polar way down to Antarctica. \n\nThis worlds a world for you and me. \n\nYou sound like you drive an SUV. \n\nOh shit you rolled and hit a tree. \n\nMore room for people urning to be free. ",
"I'll have a bowl of lobster bisque, a Salisbury steak with mashed and gravy, and short stack of pancakes. Keep the coffee coming, thanks. ",
"You are the one cherry picking arguments. You are literally trying to dictate what we can and can't use in this discussion. Nice projection, idiot.",
"That's awesome, brother. Welcome home.",
"Come check it out for a while and you will love it! ",
"How so, hell California is the fifth largest economy in the world last I checked...but yep, 2 steps away from having no clean water, no medicine or livable shelters",
"You're right. I did assume OP did it properly (benefit of the doubt).",
"Yeah, Canada just says fuck off to anyone who doesn't already have a highly in demand job. ",
"Congratulations and welcome!",
"Needs more guns and beer but otherwise well done!",
"Not really talking about citizenry; it's more about the occupation of space and the consuming of resources. Kids born from illegal immigrants on U.S. soil is a problem.",
"Oh my, that gave me a chuckle on a crappy day. Thanks :)",
"Careful not to cut yourself on all that edge ",
"No. Star field forward - stars lead - never retreat. GO USA!",
"Hm, not sure how satellites are exactly relevant in this conversation about irony, but good job Soviet Union.",
"hes obviously not holding a patch, what you are saying is true only for when worn as a patch on a uniform, but when displaying/flying the flag the union stars should always be to the top left, and I would say that for a \"photo opportunity\" of becoming a citizen he should have the flag turned around",
"Or vote for the person you feel will represent you best. That’s probably a better vote.",
"He stated he has already lived here for 11 years so I am sure he is aware of what is going on here.",
"That’s great that you had such a pleasant immigration experience, and I’m glad, but I know people who are here illegally with elderly family members dying in their home country of illness or old age waiting to immigrate legally. It’s not always easy and a 10+ year-long wait is not necessary. ",
"So before learning about this I would have believed in a more conservative and more stricter immigration policy. I will say I do think merit-based is appropriate, a lot of countries are more strict than we are. At the same time I do think that it should be either a lower-cost or less time. Once you get here. I don't think either side of the debate on TV knows enough to really be making any sort of claims. Most people on both sides don't really know the immigration policy and how it actually works in real life. I would think five years would be enough time. ",
"Ok, so ill spell it out for you. You have to work to pay for that house that you don't own. It takes time, and if you're willing to put effort in and WAIT... then you eventually own the house.\n\nYou come to America on a visa, you get a job and apply for citizenship. You work hard and WAIT...then you eventually become a citizen. See... it wasn't that hard. Now you try it, all by yourself.",
"People are illegally becoming citizens ahead of others? I'm not sure how that works.\n\nBut I would imagine someone who has suffered through something wouldn't want others to have to go through the same. ",
"You were saying exactly that. You clearly have absolutely zero understanding of the very fundamental reasons as to why a country limits immigration",
"I've traveled all over the world and it makes me appreciate living in America even more ",
"Unless he is a cereal killer. ",
"Not really...the bar is set just high enough that it discourages people who are seeking “financial asylum”\n\nWe also accept a lot of refugees",
"This gives me hope that maybe one day i too can become a citizen.",
"lol, you’re so cute, insulting the intelligence of people who don’t agree with you. ",
"But you can become a resident fairly quickly. It's not citizenship or nothing. \n\nYeah, it takes too long to become a citizen. But it only takes a couple years to become a permanent resident. ",
"He's probably from Norway.",
"Are you retarded? It SHOULD be a difficult thing to become a citizen",
"I thought you were talking about his hair for a second.\n",
"It costs about $900 because they are a fee sourced agency waiving over $500 million per year in application fees. Everyone else that pays is paying way more to cover the people that Trump seems concerned about. ",
"I don't. Why do you hate poor Americans who are hurt economically by mass immigration of unskilled laborers?",
"> herrrr durrrr come to America legally durrr\n\nhow about this: respect people who do it legally by enforcing the law they are following. ",
"I'm always glad to see people getting their legal citizenship, congrats on being an American my dude",
"I wasn’t. I’m not going to argue that with you when it’s there in plain English but you refuse to read. ",
"For sure...just joking. ",
"Good you look Norwegian and not one of those people from shitholes. /s",
"we can choose who we admit. we have enough of our own problems. no need to actively bring in more. ",
"Oh we weren't naming random inventions and the countries? Hmm",
"Congrats!\n\nLPT: Don't laminate that certificate. My family had to pay because my father wanted to be cautious.",
"Ok, then please enlighten me as to your genius solution",
"But you can immigrate to the US as a permanent resident fairly quickly. Gaining full citizenship takes a while, but illegal immigration will never get you that either. \n\nWhy are you only equating full citizenship to immigration as a whole. You can get a work visa pretty easily, then become a permanent resident and never have to do anything else except not commit a felony.",
"Geez, if you hate it so much, you can just try to emmigrate to Haiti.",
"I think you mean Freedom Dispenser™",
"Our rich people fuck up our economy. ",
"Permanent residents can own guns here as well....except in Democrat states where no one can.",
"Hey asshole, fuckoff\n\n http://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/features/white-nationalism-and-right-wing-extremism-arent-new-to-canada\n\n100 White Nationalist groups across Canada. \n\n",
"Machine guns are illegal ",
"And that is why illegal immigrants should be sent back to wherever they came from! Congrats on becoming a citizen!",
"As opposed to those with illegal citizenship? Haha. ",
"I don’t know how immigration works. How can you live somewhere, but not be a citizen?",
"Nah you send the money for the ticket first and I’ll follow those instructions.",
"I guess I’m not looking and obsessed with skin color like you are. I guess that makes me the racist one and you not the racist one right? \n\nI’m just looking at the facts. Haiti and some African countries are shitholes. Some European countries are also shit holes. Norway is not one of them. Norway spawns hard workers who contribute meaningfully to their society and work to make their country great for themselves and their neighbors. \n\nThat’s not the case in Haiti though is it? \n\nBut let’s circle back to how I’m a Nazi or a klan member. ",
"We have no idea how he got his green card. He may have been here illegally before he got his green card. We don't know. Maybe OP can share his story to give the people some context. ",
"I mean, I've been turned down despite making 6 figures in the US as a system admin for various fortune 500 companies and the US government, and job offers from Canadian companies contingent on getting the visa. I'm about as in demand as it gets.\n\nCanada is either \"you're rich or a refugee\", no others need apply.",
"Hmm this sounds like a familiar story. Was your dad in the military by chance?",
"I'm an immigrant myself and it doesn't always take 13 years to become a citizen. As soon as you get a green card it's 3 or 5 years before you can become a citizen depending on how you got into the country.\n\nIt's not America's job to take in every single person who wants a better life nor is it feasible. Life in America is better than a lot of countries so it's no surprise given the opportunity the vast majority of people from \"worse\" countries would choose to live here.\n\n> just because you were born in America it suddenly gives you the right to view not another nation as inferior, but rather it's people;\n\n\nI agree, people aren't judged by where they were born, they're judged based on their character. Not wanting to take in the whole world or opposing illegal immigration doesn't mean you view those people as inferior.",
"Congratulations!",
"Yearning*",
"Plenty of people who are born here are terrorists and criminals.\n\nWhy does being born here give you more right to be here than someone who wasn't? You didn't do shit. You don't even pick a country.\n\nYou just assumed that America is the greatest place in Earth because it's where you already live. \n\nThese people opened their minds, saw a place where they felt they belonged, and worked to get here.\n\nAll you did was exist.\n\nI'll take the hard working immigrant who left the life they knew to pursue a love in America over a close-minded biggot every day.",
"In the USA you have to be a lawful permanent resident (green card holder) for 3-5 years before you will be allowed to apply for citizenship (if you want to apply). There are millions of people here in the United States illegally after having entered illegally, not leaving when supposed to, etc.\n\nTLDR: In the USA there are millions of people living here illegally and millions who are living here legally and are not citizens of the USA.",
"Or Norwasian",
"Coming from the original post you made, and what it contained in the form of text. I can see you are in fact retarded. Have a great day there, sport!",
"Ok, then go move to a shithole country without any rich people. That is what you want, right?",
"What Shit-hole did you come from?",
"People should make their own life decisions and weigh the benefits and detriments like adults.\n\n> I’m also in my field that I studied in college for. So should I just leave and just do some mundane job that I’ll hate?!\n\nIf no company in your field is large enough to provide health insurance or maternity leave to its employees, you may have gone into the wrong field.\n\n>Why can’t I pay taxes and it go to healthcare?\n\nWhy can't you just pay for health insurance?",
"Why would you comment, just to rain on someone's happy day?\n\n1. Been here 11years, so good chance he is employed with probably medical benefits \n\n2. Obviously knows what the culture is after 11 years and not a criminal if he got his citizenship .\n\n3. Your the guy going around telling toddlers Santa doesn't exist, just to be a jerk aren't you?",
"Yep. I was just saying he's not technically wrong for holding it that way. ",
"Canada, USA premium",
"Yeah but at least we have good tacos",
"Cite your sources.",
"You have curling, I will give you that, but no.",
"I feel ya. Just trying to say it's still technically ok to hold it that way because every flag can be seen from two opposing sides so there's not really a wrong way.\n\nEDIT: grammar ",
"r/nothingeverhappens",
"It must be scary to move to a country where so few people look like you. So brave. ",
" Its backwards! ",
"We're proud to have you!",
"It's illegal in the US to own machine guns* so that statement is ridiculous\n\n*That were manufactured after 1984",
"Well that’s the problem, these people did not go through the immigration process and essentially trespassed in to the country. The last thing they should be expecting is a smooth and quick process to citizenship.\n\nWhen you don’t go through the proper immigration process, you don’t get to go through the proper citizenship process. Not that complicated.",
"If you vote for trump in 2020 I’ll send your ass back to Albania ",
"No. It is stars forward...always. We are used to seeing the other side of the flag.",
"You don't need a source for that, it's just common sense. If you flood the market with cheap labor, it drives down the cost and lowers wages for existing Americans. If you can't understand that, you are either still in middle school or mentally retarded.",
"You can't deport US citizens tough guy. ",
"Because contrary to popular belief, I can think however the fuck I want. The real question is why don't you want people with a different viewpoint than you to not speak? That's unamerican as fuck. You must be one of those Russian spies. ",
"I’m really nice and help old people cross roads. Will you take me please?",
"Not just that but thousands of dollars too. Every application forum in the process has like a 300-400$ fee and there's like 7 of them. And they have to be drawn from an American bank. So if you aren't already in the US... ",
"...Is this a joke? Canada is much worse. I've gone through both.",
"https://i.imgur.com/l5ZYaes.gifv",
"The few countries which are better than America are harder to become citizens of, so...",
"The fee is refundable if you come from a shithole with a low brown content or you are less brown than the average browness of your shithole...\n\n\n \n\n/s <-- not needed but I don't know whats real.",
"Kind of, yeah. Because you were born in a shitty place you’re forced to stay there? We wouldn’t be a country if it weren’t for people taking a chance for a better life...",
">digitally enhancing\n\n\nZoom. The word is zoom",
"I never said it was cheap, I'm just countering that your friend had no reason to be here illegally, and also, that the process it doesn't take that long - I know because I went through it.",
"Thanks! Just wanted to pick your brain!",
"Yes you can, that's how me and my family got ours. My dad was brought on by an American company through a work visa, and then he applied for a green card for him and his family (wife and 2 sons), his company sponsored it, we paid and we got permanent residency (green cards).",
"What shithole country are you from? ",
"This guy is such a lame",
"The beard America needs",
"Or maybe it's because he's holding his certificate of naturalization in the picture\n\nNo that can't be it, must be the title /s",
"Yet you still fail to address what I was criticizing. Go read a book and learn to comprehend what the author is saying.",
"Immigrants are also consumers, therefore the labour surplus is offset by a larger market for that labour. One article I read on the topic says that there is an effect whereby income is redistributed away from poor native-born Americans, to their employers and to immigrants themselves, but imo that could be largely offset with progressive taxation and NIT/UBI.",
"That’s how Sarah Palin first spotted Russia from her back deck. ",
"It's highly dependant on who you are/what your situation is. Low skilled workers can take years, but people who are doing college/masters/phds or are being brought on for management positions get visas very easily, especially because companies and universities will sponsor their candidates.",
"It's like that one guy running into a burning building....",
"Abortions for some! Tiny American flags for all!",
"YeeeHaw",
"You are a lame.",
"In my honest opinion, I think you'll be just fine here. Where I'm from it's real easy to fit in. Just be yourself and you should be fine haha",
"\"My thoughts are just, like, too amazing for anyone to comprehend. I'm Soo much smarter than everyone else\" -brokenhalf\n\nYou are literally just spewing bullshit at this point",
"Went into the comments to look for this, well done sir. ",
"Ok snowflake, whatever you say.",
"Welcome! And congratulations! ",
"Thank you. That seems like an honest straightforward answer. I’ll try",
"> waaay too long for *some* or never can happen for *some*\n\nAgreed, that's why I qualified it.\n\nI should also add that it also depends on what country you are trying to come from.",
"Good job posting your citizenship document, you're about to learn a lesson in our great country's Cyber crime abilities.",
"I guess if you go far enough back, say 6-8,000 years, I guess you’re right. I mostly was thinking about modern migration of the last 200 years or so. But we certainly aren’t alone in that category either.",
"Congratulations!",
"I'd say most of the important stuff is already wisely removed.",
"Ok? Nice argument brah",
"Ah yes, gazing into Canada",
"How many voting members are in the house of Representatives? \n\nWho is your Representative? \n\nWho was president during world War one? \n\nHow many amendments does the Constitution have? \n\nWhat year was the Constitution written?\n\nName one of the writers of The Federalist Papers.\n\nI took this test a few days ago. Ill-informed patronising was surprisingly not part of the test. ",
"Fair enough!",
"No problem! :D",
"Not an argument, just a judgement based on your intellectually lazy arguments.",
"What country are you in? ",
"Ok, so if that were truly the case then let's take it back to my original point. You are saying that if the entire population of Africa/South America/Other high population region were suddenly transported to America, then that would have a net positive impact on the economy since they would also be consumers? You actually believe that?",
"Except criminals.",
"yeah ok, go on youtube, tons of people are walking down the streets with loaded longgun, i don't give a shit how you call them, they are machineguns. ",
"Yeah, as a Brit, I for one am glad to see how badly you guys are fucking your country up because it’s taking the focus off how badly we’re fucking ours up.",
"The thing is, living in the UK without guns and such, we don’t feel like we *need* to defend our lives or property. Not like you do anyway.",
"Welcome brother. Sorry it’s a little jacked up right now.",
"Yes, you are a racist for gaslighting for another racist's clearly racist comments. ",
"That sounds awesome ",
"DJ KHALID, WE DA BEST",
"So you're saying Americans, who come from all over the world, are inherently more stupid than people in the rest of the world.",
"Oh, yes. You guys are totally safe from 6' 3\" burly guys with knives or clubs that break into your home or ambush you in an alley.",
"This is one of the most American pictures I have ever seen. Congrats!",
"Enjoy the complimentary desert eagle and uncensored videogames!\nJust not the sexy ones. ",
"Frick",
"What shithole country are you from?",
"What is this obsession with Haiti?",
"Welcome! ",
"Everyone is so easily triggered, its both funny and sad at the same time. My man here did it right.",
"Must be bittersweet. But congrats!!",
"DON'T NEED THE ATTITUDE, SWEETY!",
"Mentioning it once is an obsession?",
"Which shithole country might you be from?",
"It is literally true.\n\n>knowledge.\n\n> facts, information, and skills acquired through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.\n\nMore intelligent people know more, learn faster and typically seek out knowledge more often. ",
"Hey /u/vVvMaze , why are you too chickenshit to respond to this? ",
"Our guns and lift kits",
"Thank you for doing it the legal way. Welcome home.",
"Lolwat",
"\n\n\n\nHe could get a M1 Garand for 650 bucks from the Civilian Marksmanship Program which requires confirmation of citizenship. It's a similar rifle they utilized as a part of World War II and the Korean War. Nothing more opportunity than that. ",
"Seen it about 15 times on this post.",
"I think cost of paperwork isn't a big deal, compared to the time and effort.",
"That stuff can happen, obviously, anywhere in the world. But we don’t live our lives in fear of it. And as an added bonus we don’t have the extra terror of knowing that anyone we meet or banter with might be carrying a bloody handgun.",
"Welcome. Please join in the effort to make this country accepting and proud of being the land of the free, again.\n\nCongratulations on your efforts and desire. It obviously means a great deal to you, speaking towards your 11 year trek.\n\nI do hope you find it meaningful in every way. I am sure you will take you civic duty to heart, given your lengthy desire and eventual success.\n\nWelcome to America, as a full citizen. ",
"I hope you didn't come from one of those shithole countries. /s",
"What I believe is that the market adjusts. Companies are of course looking to compete at the margin, and therefore will cut costs wherever possible; and for these companies, immigration is probably a great net benefit, for largely the same reasons that free trade benefits corporations. But the lesson of free trade goes both ways: not only do companies benefit, but in the long run populations do as well. China opened their borders to Capitalism, and now they have a thriving middle class. The losers end up being factory workers (and don't think I don't know this, I've worked in factories), and low-skilled labourers. Its the extremes that benefit, and your thought seems to be that under such strain, the center cannot hold. But NAFTA did not lead to long-term increases in unemployment - the market adjusted, it found new jobs. The economy (which really is a measure of commercial efficiency) grew tremendously. \n\nI'm looking at your profile now, and I see you're a Trump supporter, so I think you'd argue as well that regulations on business can often be too restrictive, and as a result can keep the economy from growing / operating at peak efficiency. I see immigration policy in a similar light. To me, a border is a fairly arbitrary constraint on labour markets, which often keep workers who are most suited or disposed to a particular job from doing that job. (For example, after Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration, there were stories about how [affordable produce depends on illegal immigration](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/in-an-immigration-crackdown-who-will-pick-our-produce/2017/03/17/cc1c6df4-0a5d-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html)). The illegal immigration 'epidemic' is actually instructive: it shows us the length to which people will seek out work where its available. There were years in which net immigration between Mexico and America was negative because there were simply no jobs to be had in America. So, to answer your question, if suddenly the entire South African population was transported to America, I think there's a good chance a lot of them go back, or go someplace else where their individual abilities will best serve the overall economy.",
"The difference is, what stops a bad guy from having a handgun where nobody else does? It will least make it a fair fight.",
"I've assumed the worst in people for more than 40 years. \n\nI've chosen to assume the best for a little while. Just to know what it's like not to hate every human being on the planet.",
"Indiana and Texas have laws/precedent, a few more states have legislation/state constitution that justifies lethal force against unlawful arrest.",
"Bad timing hehe but congratulations anyway!",
"You had it when you nailed that beard. Welcome, young savior. ",
"He seems to indicate he was here for 11 years. He was naturalized by a Trump run agency along with many other people. \n\nThe world continues to spin... ",
"sorry for your loss",
"I'm sorry.",
"Grats, my dude.",
"Sorry.\n\n\n\n\n\nI kid, congratulations.",
"Shithole country",
"I think that’s a heart attack.",
"A giant congrats, fellow American!",
"And after all that, DACA will disrespect your hard work.",
"I think it is hard for Americans to understand what we have here and most probably take it for granted, it is truly refreshing to see when that is not the case.",
"Welcome to the shithole!!",
"Good for you. Congratulations and thank you for doing it the right way rather than being illegal and taking advantage. Really, thank you. ",
"> This is what pisses me off the most about the anti-immigrant American’s “herrrr durrrr come to America legally durrr” argument. It takes 13 fucking years.\n\nand? what's your point? Doing it legally takes too long so...just skip the line and come here illegally?",
"ohh so you mean effective, enforced border patrol? Did you know Canada literally just became 1930s germany to 90% of reddit? ",
"You look really mature for an 11 year old.",
"Oh man you picked the wrong time to do that. We're jumping off the deep end face first.",
"Congrats bro!",
"Canada ",
"The US",
"This reply always mystifies me. It means absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter if the wait for other countries is longer, or the requirements more stringent. That doesn't mean our immigration system isn't incredibly burdensome and in desperate need of overhaul.",
"Do you have special circumstances? It sounds like you are married to a Canadian (or another fast-track situation).",
"I went to Europe over the summer and it was awesome and i would love to live there. If it were easy to, i would.",
"prove me wrong. I live in a country that allows me to get a knee reconstruction and not go into bankruptcy. Ambulances are FREE here. FREE.\n\nbut america is greatest right?\n",
"Yah!",
"Theres a pretty drastic gulf between living here legally and becoming a citizen. \n\nYou're talking as if someone only gets to cross the border once they're a citizen, when there's a number of visas and work permits that allow someone legal residence without citizenship. \n\nNo one is getting to citizenship using a faster illegal method.",
"Welcome home.",
"Why on earth would you move to Canada?",
"Nothing more wholesome than seeing someone originating from a different area but being publicly proud with those around them in a new area - doesnt even have to be a country. Its a matter of respect and camaraderie for those around you. 💯",
"My situation was a bit different I was very,very fortunate to get my green card via the DV lottery in 2015 (moved to the US last year). \n\nSadly many Americans think this process is as simple as signing a couple of documents and \"BOOM\" you're a citizen, it's such a long winded process and they don't see the soul crushing backlog or how hard it really is to even get a green card let alone citizenship and I was especially pissed when coworkers were commenting on the removal for TPS for Salvadorans and Haitians that it was \"their own fault for not simply applying for citizenship when they had the chance\" and I had to then explain that you cannot get citizenship under TPS.",
"A long rifle does not equal machine gun. Educate yourself before you speak please, youre making Canada look bad. ",
"Congratulations!",
"Wow. You almost make it seem like the way to immigrate here is to do it legally. But everybody knows that's racist talk.",
"Your always welcome to upgrade your citizenship to Canadian!\n\nBut seriously, congrats.\n\n",
"Why on earth not? It's pretty fun up here.",
"Poor bastard \nNext step Australia ",
"The United Shitholes of America\n\nCongrats!",
"Good on you for actually following the law instead of saying you have a right to be here and crying when ICE gives you the boot.",
"He'll be happy until he finds out how \"great\" it is!",
"Stats aren’t working in favour of this argument.",
"Yeah you don't live your lives in fear of it because it's \"part and parcel\" right? You've had more trucks of peace than we've had mass shootings in 2017. Not counting knife crimes, etc. A gun will not stop someone from commuting a crime, they'll just find another way.",
"Welcome Bruddah! Stay away from de debil and let us show you de way! ",
"He seems to be here 11 years now. I am guessing he is familiar with it.",
"Yes. There is less income inequality in European countries. In return you get free/cheap healthcare, schooling, public transport, etc. I pay a shitload of taxes, and I don’t have the slightest problem with that.",
"Congratulations indeed man !!!",
"I’m sorry. ",
"Welcome and congrats!!",
"The soft serve ice cream of countries.",
"Congrats!",
"What a world we live in. People get gilded for saying bullshit statements.",
"For real. Canada only has three real big cities, but each of them are incredibly unique and on the level of NYC/LA. Add to that tons of odd small towns and nature, and it seems pretty magical.",
"Hard time escapin’ after all dem churros.",
"Australia's immigration policy is pretty perfect. Very hard to get in if you don't have skills they project to desire for their growing population. There is a list of careers they want from an immigrant, with the usual emphasis on STEM. If you either 1) are a professional in that field, or 2) wanting to study within that field in grad school, you apply for a visa and its pretty easy to get approved if you're an appealing candidate. Once you have legally lived there for three uninterrupted years you are eligible for permanent residency.\n\nLow hassle, helps the country grow in a smart way, and doesn't waste anyone's time while still demanding reasonable demands.",
"See in the US a lot of liberal-minded people would have anybody come in who wants to as long as they have no criminal record obviously. And that's just too far in One Direction. Now the conservatives would have hardly anybody, and if it all. Again too far in One Direction. Both sides in the US don't know what the actual system is. They do a poor job on both fronts and they both portray what actually happens wrong. The Liberals portray like every other country let anybody in. The conservatives live outside of reality and don't want hardly anyone to come in.",
"Oh I see... what you’re saying is that my taxes should pay for your healthcare and maternity leave because you made a shitty choice for your major. That makes perfect sense. /s\n\nThis is the biggest problem with the state of this country right now. Everybody expects a hand out or / and consider the rest of the world to be the cause of their stupid life choices. Welcome to America 2018. ",
"Welcome to the shit show",
"Tell me about the utopia that you live in. ",
"11yrs wasted",
"Just trim that beard so the poh poh won't think you'll blow somethin' up.",
"Welcome to the fold! ",
"These photos are the creepiest thing ever, especially if they're taken at the immigration service.",
"Ahhahahahahahahahahaha WTF",
"can confirm, I live in Texas and own over 20 pistols but carry only a g43 every day. no hi points or sccys here",
"Sorry ",
"damn youre hot",
"Welcome brother! We are nearly all the result of immigration, so you fit right in. Most of us care more about what you make of yourself than we do about where you’re from. Be welcome, find your peace, there is a place for you here!",
"thanks for taking him by the way",
"Welcome to the family bro.",
"Turn around, this is a shithole country.",
"Welcome aboard. Grab a copy of the Constitution and stand with us, newbie :D",
"u/Seb7, you forgot it's harder to immigrate to Canada than it is the US",
"Naturalised is a weird word for describing this. There isn't anything natural about it.",
"Fresh ass fade Tho",
"m0e?",
"If there was a Bald Eagle in the background this would be the most American thing ever witnessed.",
"I truly commend you for making this happen during our strangest era of all time. Welcome to the United Shithole of America. (Seriously though, congrats)",
"*eagle screeching*",
"1) why? \n2) why care?",
"Didn't you get shot in the head? At the end of Orange is the new black? I'm confused..",
"Yeah but that's the company that sponsors him after proving that there's no American that can fill his position and after they posted the job listing for a predefined amount of time and you also need a lawyer and some time. \n\nIt's not like you could change your status on your own.",
"*meanwhile Americans Indians, Muslims, and basically everyone who isn't american are tortured, burned, scalped, raped and mutilated in the background*\n\nHurray for Murica!",
"^run^awaaay",
"I have had classmates that used to memorize a whole chapter but would not know how to answer when asked a question. They had no means of processing and analyzing that information but could memorize verbatim the entire text.\n\nAnd I had other classmates that were brilliant in maths and physics and overall very intelligent but were mostly very ignorant intellectually about culture and knowledge.\n\nSorry, it doesn't work like that.",
"No place is perfect. No other place also pretends to be.",
"I had a really good wine from there ages ago; came in a bottle that was in a drilled out tree branch. I bought a bunch on discount but never kept or photographed the bottle and now I can’t find it :( ",
"Welcome to paradise. Feel free to check out BC. We've gotten a lot better, honest!",
"More intelligent people show a statistical inclination to seek out knowledge more often. It's an emergent trend, not a law. They are not mutually exclusive.",
"Couldn't you have found a better shithole country to live in?",
"I love how even though the shills are gilded they still are getting downvoted.\n\nMERICA is a great place to live don't let these spoiled brats tell you otherwise.",
"Took **eleven** years though, Jesus Christ. No wonder people do it the illegal way, lol.",
"Welcome to the states! Hope you enjoy it here.",
"Took the poor guy **eleven** years, no wonder people do it illegally! ",
"That’s a nasty cough you’ve got ",
"Welcome home brother.",
"Welcome to the shit show.",
"right up to point you get sick, lose your job etc...",
"Completely wrong. The UK is 5 years and it's easy to get the PR equivalent. ",
"My condolences.",
"These posts are one of the worst things on reddit.\n\nTHIS IS SO BORING. {inserts claps between each word}",
"Your anecdotes don't mean a thing.. If you sat everyone down and compared their intelligence (through IQ or whatever else)The people at the top half would consistently be more knowledgeable about just about any topic than the bottom half.",
"Just in time to watch trump burn it down",
"Australia, the country which sends refugees to offshore prison camps and violates their basic human rights, has the perfect immigration policy?",
"Congrats citizen! ",
"Can u be president? ",
"In my near thirty years on this planet I’ve experienced little violence around me and zero terrorist attacks personally. The amount of people actually affected by them is very small. They happen, but not enough to warrant everyone carrying deadly weapons.",
"It's a long time. I wonder how he personally feels about someone who illegally just lives here. Must be disheartening.\n\nAnywho, glad he made it.",
"It may have been, but it BECAME a freedom beard! ",
"I didn’t realise that inventing the internet and cellphone makes you immediately void of criticism, and causes someone to get immediate downvotes unless they kiss America’s ass",
"It is a real accomplishment. I'm just saying right now the country is going to the shit. ",
"https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/unkind-divisive-elitist-international-outcry-over-trumps-shithole-countries-remark\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-attacks-protections-for-immigrants-from-shithole-countries-in-oval-office-meeting/2018/01/11/bfc0725c-f711-11e7-91af-31ac729add94_story.html\n\nhttp://time.com/5100328/shithole-countries-trump-reactions/\n\nhttp://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/11/trump-laments-immigration-from-s-hole-countries-in-oval-office-negotiations.html\n\nI purposefully chose a link that had the keywords in it in case the link dies. You can choose from the other myriad of links though if you want, but I have a strong feeling that the leak came from CNN, hence why it has most of the attention on google. At least I hope that's the case and not that google thinks I like CNN.",
"Thought this was DJ Khaled for a sec",
"Mine got paid by the British to come fight against those inconvenient rebels. He arrived and said, \"I'm Prussian and have no fucks left to give about the British.\" walked off, joined Washington's army and got paid with a farm at the end of the war. Turned out ok for me. ",
"> **If** you sat everyone down and compared their intelligence (through IQ or whatever else)The people at the top half would consistently be more knowledgeable about just about any topic than the bottom half.\n\nSays who?\n\nI'm giving you examples from my experience and you're trying to counter that with hypothetical ideas.",
"Every study on intelligence and ability every done? ",
"Link us to **one** of these studies.",
"What's wrong with sccy's? I have a gen 2, and for being so cheap I think it's a great gun. Comfortable and shoots well. I don't have a hi point, but I didn't know some people put them both in the same category.\n\nI prefer to carry my XDs 45, though. ",
"I thought it was rag n bone man.",
"Just come to Canada bud :) ",
"I don't have time to google something for you.. The irony of you arguing that intelligence doesn't correlate with ignorance is obviously lost on you. ",
"I don't have time either but I googled and couldn't find anything, so since there's an abundance of studies proving your point, give us just one. Oh sure, you don't have time, but you have time to hangout on reddit :) Have a great day, I don't want to argue with you and I could care less if you go on living your life thinking that knowledge and intelligence correlate.",
"Preferably Fully auto, if your State allows.",
"Yep, he's faded.",
"Congrats to you and your beard.",
"American citizen. Good.\n\nAmazing beard. Great.",
"He knows de wae to de ebola and de deval, and has completed his journey. Congratulations! Click click click click click!",
"Welcome my friend let me give you some tips \n\nGet used to people not believing your a citizen I’ve been dealing with that shit my hole life and I was born it PR lol the only reason anyone knows about PR now is because of the hurricane.\n\nYou’ll probably get hired quicker than anyone else because you might know 2 languages\n\nAnd for every bad thing you hear out there this country is not it’s government this country is it’s people and the people here are warm hearted and kind most have gone through rough years and might seem cold but we all sorta pull together\n\n",
"And there are not \"tons of people\" walking around with them, either.",
"Stop moaning about people moaning about people moaning.",
"Did you happen to miss Switzerland? ;)",
"Doesn't look like he came from a shithole country; sports a neckbeard; firmly gazes into a bright American future; Surrounded by an proudly holds the colours aloft; is equipped with the appropriate credentials, ok, he gets to stay.\n\nWe need to confirm his weapons rack though.\n\n/mild sarcasm",
"Yeah because Tex-Mex isn’t real Mexican food. ",
"Are you at all pissed off that although it took you thirteen years, others get it much easier now?",
"Mexico's policy for dealing with illegals comes to mind here. ",
"just a joke lol",
"Plus a shotgun because it's got a nice spread.",
"Oh okay. I thought I missed something lol ",
"Did you acquired a complimentary riffle? ",
"I got one of those certificates on St. Patrick's Day in 1972. Good on you!\n",
"Why would you move to that shithole ",
"/r/aboringdystopia",
"Why?",
"Great job DJ Khaled!!",
"That’s awesome buddy! Welcome home!",
"I'm sorry for your loss.",
"Vote for Trump make America greater! ",
"Dj Khaled is the son of Palestinian immigrants actually",
"Congrats! I promise the presidents will get better.",
"I think those are mostly sold out now, right?",
"Congrats on doing it the right way! I can only imagine your frustration when folks come here illegally and are granted amnesty.",
"y tho?",
"Sorry, my bad! Not sure why I though he was Canadian.",
"Bad timing Lel.",
"How do you know he arrived legally?",
"We definitely need more daddies like you in our country! FREEDOM!\n",
"Yeah! Crack an ice cold freedom beer, and walk around town!",
"You might want to tell your liberal news agencies to calm down if they want to win any elections. They are starting to offend centrists now. ",
"That is amazing!!! Congratulations!!! How does one do that? It's been my lifelong dream.",
"First experience as an American citizen:\n\n\"Okay, now step right over here... hold this flag... good, good... hold it... okay now give me your free-est face! Hold it right there aaaand- perfect! Okay great- just take this card over to the cashier with your $45 and she'll get you your 'freedom picture' right away. I can help whoever's next in line!",
"ANOTHA ONE",
"Congrats!",
"How does it make you feel that you put in the time and work to do it the right way while others break the law to come here and face no consequences?",
"I that near Normay?",
"Oh, I'm so sorry... ",
"Hope you didn't come from a $hithole counrty.",
"Unlucky dude",
"You think I would have learned something living here for almost 50 years.",
"Banks have procedures for total wipe outs. \n\nBut I found it easier to work with my state’s department of public safety to replace my driver’s license first. ",
"People tend not to build big homes in Alaska. Too expensive to heat. \n",
"You're really gonna be that asshole right now? Seriously? Let OP celebrate his life dude. ",
"Um not just me but help our fellow neighbor. Cause there are thousands of people in America without healthcare. I’m just one of them. You don’t even know what I do. And apparently my life choice is stupid. \nYea America where owning a gun is a right and healthcare is a privilege. 🙄",
"It's only great when compared to other third world countries, and even that's questionable. ",
"Congratulations! I know you didnt just get here, but welcome anyways, we're proud to have you as one of us. Great photo too",
"Yup NJ. The best beaches in the country, in the top 3 highest rated public schools in the country, top 3 highest median income. ",
"Haha.... nice choice of words. \n\nIt's *literally* so shitty",
"I forgot that idiot was president to be honest. I hear \"trump\" and I think \"reality tv\"",
"That's your choice, am I right? I prefer not to. \n\nGlad people are free to choose to live how they please.",
"I saw the picture before the headline and thought it was him. Oooh, I hate that guy so bad!",
"Good now you don't have to break up your family for getting deported.",
"It's really the best decision I've ever made. My blood pressure is way down, I can laugh again, etc.! Cheers!",
"But why",
"Ah i see UK is all countrys that arent usa.",
"I really thought it was him at first. ",
"Welcome to the resistance ",
"Welcome countryman.",
"I'm American and my wife is currently getting her greencard via our marriage. Even doing the process through marriage to a US citizen is expensive and stressful. ",
"The system is designed to discourage people first and foremost. ",
"I'll go as far as to say I'd rather live in California than Haiti. But only because the flood of people leaving California would mean I'd be running the show there before long.",
"Haha love your humor",
"Just guessing, are you Lithuanian? ",
"Wow, that is awesome. Thanks for the detailed response! Now I need to go look for some Irish loophole to get my dual citizenship, haha.\n\nThe EU thing you mention is the best part, it's truly incredible. Brush up on your Italian and buona fortuna!",
"In no state can you kill a cop for what you feel to be an unjustified arrest. ",
"What makes you think you can come here from your shit hole? /s",
"Staten Island, if you want to live on both a literal and figurative trash heap.",
"Congrats!\n\n#NOW REGISTER YOURSELF AND OTHERS TO VOTE, AND VOTE IN EVERY GODDAMN ELECTION YOU POSSIBLY CAN.",
"Welcome to the shit show!",
"Hell yeah. Congratulations.\n\n",
"Congrats dude! My your future be filled with joy!",
"Get this man some second amendment!\n\nCongrats, brother. How hard was the process?",
"No. Pretty easy. They ask you 10 questions and you have to get 6 of them right. ",
"Welcome, hope you enjoy the ride!",
"Welcome. We aren’t as good as we once were, but I think we will find our way back to being good. At least I hope so. If Trump is doing anything, he’s motivating regular people to stand up and get involved in civics and helping to set our country’s direction. We were quite lazy for a while, and that’s how we got here. ",
"Thanks for doing the right thing! Thanks for being a REAL American!",
"Can confirm, recently got stationed here, they issue you one at the state welcome center. ",
"Welcome aboard! :)",
"From Jersey, confirmed shithole",
"Crime happens everywhere. It's not like the US is any safer...",
"Which shit hole country did you come from?",
"I haven't even seen it on Facebook really. I saw one adviceanimal meme and even then when I went back to look for it, couldn't find it. ",
"my warmest condolences",
"Cangratz! Now buy a gun and be ready to defend your family from the cops. ",
"deepest sympathies",
"The majority of the Reddit userbase is American, last I checked. There are versions of this for the UK, but it's kept in UK subreddits instead of going on pics, typically.",
"Have fun with Trump sucka.",
"I've never actually been to San Antonio. It was just a joke.",
"The flag in the background says your wrong.\nAlso its not stitched to your military fatigues.\nAlso google “USA flag”",
"Nope, I have no special circumstances. I just used the express entry system for PR applications (Despite what the name suggests, it is the 'normal' way of applying). Canada uses a points-based system for immigration, and have streamlined the process well enough to process PR applications within 6 months.",
"Congratulations. Hopefully we won't let you down.",
"NJ may not have a lot of unique things but we have quick access to more than basically any other state. Inside of an hour I can be in the Appalachian mountains, at the shore, on a lake or river, stopping by a local vineyard, distillery or brewery, and from my doorstep I can be in NYC in less than 15 minutes.\n\nNJ also has the best diners, Indian, Portuguese and Italian food in the country. We have some of the best pizza, hot dogs, and arguably Filipino and Korean food as well.\n\nI could carry on, and while NJ maybe not be the best state, it's still much better than most.",
"I definitely will! ",
"not the best time.Did you receive the letter signed by Donald Trump instead of Obama?",
"Welcome to the best country in the world. I hope you enjoy your stay. Glad to have such a smart individual as an American Citizen. ",
"Well it’s doing better than a lot of African shitholes so.....,",
"The fuck we ever do to you?! That's it, no pork roll/Taylor Ham for you!",
"Taylor Ham. Springsteen.",
"Hey look, someone doing it right.",
"We gotta deal with fuckers messing with Jersey and we're going to get into the Taylor Ham/Pork Roll civil war?? We gotta unite here.\n\nI don't give a fuck what you call it (I'm a Taylor Ham guy), but we can all agree the shits the bomb on a bagel with some salt, pepper and ketchup.",
"Would have been nice if he wasn't a dick about medical marijuana, though",
"In my youth, it was all about them disco fries.",
"Where the fuck does Staten Island folks get off trashing Jersey??",
"I don't have any stats at all, but aren't most illegal aliens folks who overstayed student or work visas and not dudes crossing the Southern boarder?",
"Welcome friend, thank you for doing it the right way!!!",
" Swearing-in ceremony. Congratulations on your citizenship.",
"Congrats. Glad to have good people like you, and kudos to you for making the effort to do it the right way. ",
"Let's hope this is enough to protect you from ICE Nazis.\nEdit: Well done sir. Welcome.",
"New American citizens are way more American than I am and I was born here",
"I don't, but I know he's legal now and that's all that matters to me",
"Welcome, my fellow American. Make us all proud.",
"As opposed to no citizenship",
"Those aren't loaded, it's illegal to open carry a loaded rifle in most states",
"My personal favorites are Valtari and Kveikur!",
"Yes, since they would prefer to grant work visas than citizenship",
"Ummm... we have the longest unguarded border in the world",
"No popular belief and a legal Right is to think and say what you want (minus things like yelling \"fire\" in a movie theater etc.)\n\nNever said I didn't want you to speak! But good job at trying the victim card, followed up with name calling (Russian spy) lol. Since I am not 12, name calling does not affect me. Especially something with no originality, or a grain of truth to it.\n\nThis man spent a lot of time, money and energy to follow his dream. I don't see the point of trying to minimize his accomplishments for my chance to be a jerk. I do not feel the need to tear other people down to make myself feel better, or sound \"cooler\". \n\nYou can think and say how ever you choose, and I am allowed to pity you that you only feel good tearing other people and their accomplishments down.",
"You mean the low wage unskilled people leaving for part time jobs in ugly states that are cheaper to live in because they're miserable? ",
">Best health technology, success rate, and quality of care in the world.\n\nDoesn't mean shit if people can't afford it. \n\n>A military force that's sheer size and superiority is the biggest deterrent to another major war in the western world keeping you cozy behind a computer screen instead of behind conscripted. \n\nDoesn't need to spend more than the next 8 countries combined to secure our country. We don't need to be world's policeman. No matter how much we spend, we get our asses kicked in every recent major war. I mean since WWII wtf have we won? Got our asses handed to us in Vietnam, get chased out of Iraq, consistently getting our asses kicked in Afghanistan. Maybe Desert storm? \n\nProblem with you simpletons is you care so much about other countries in UN not doing enough, yet you take such a pride in being the white knight of western hemisphere. All the while you don't realize kids in this country can't get a decent education, vets in this country can't get a decent meal, people can't afford quality healthcare, all because you want to be world's policeman and have a prosperous military industrial complex. This is exactly why we need affordable public education. So you don't turn into such gullible idiots. \n\n>Stop being naive.\n\nJust being realistic. Go get your next dose kool aid of misleading facts from FOX news and dotard twitter. \n\n \n",
"Now that's how it's supposed to be done! Congratulations to DJ Khaled!",
"Sorry for this asshole, friend. Congrats on your new citizenship.",
"Oklahoma statutes require a minimum of two scatterguns with different gauges; no .410s.",
"You said it, poor and stupid is all that's left in california and they are even realizing it's time to leave. Good, maybe I can get a 2 dollar an hour guy named Carlos to take care of my lawn. ",
"Bob Ney the disgraced Congessman created the Freedom Fries for tge Congressional Cafeteria when France tried to impose tarrifs on some American goods iirc\n\nHe was our local Congressman and actually almost ran me over as a kid when I rode my bike in front of his car around a blind turn ( would have been my fault, not his). He might have been a \"crook\" but he was \"our crook\". \n\nThe best congressman this area ever had, IMHO",
"REEEEEEEE",
"For starters I was asleep so calm your tits. Secondly it wasn’t even your reply so why are you demanding I respond to it? Is it because someone more intelligent than you formed an actual answer and response instead of just lobbing insults and you realize the value in that?\n\nLastly, he didn’t at any point refute the fact that Haiti is a shithole which it is when this whole thing started because I said Trump wasn’t wrong. And he’s not wrong. He focuses again on race. All liberals do is focus on race. They preach about equality but cannot get past someone’s skin color. \n\nDon’t know what else you are looking for but I’m not going to engage in discussion with you. You are providing zero value to this thread and are just filled with anger waiting for others to formulate educated responses and then waiting for me to answer them. \n\nThat persons response isn’t wrong. There are many parts of the US that are a shithole. But the US as a whole isn’t one. Haiti for the most part is except for tourist areas mainly. And not every single person in Haiti is a bad person, Trump never said they were. But as a collective they clearly are not running the country well. And that’s not a jab at race it’s just a fact. It’s racist to blame it on skin color so if you could not focus on their skin color then you can begin to see people equally instead of constantly categorizing them because of what color they are and tossing everything else out the window and just crying racism which ironically is actually racist. \n\nHope this satisfies your demand of my response and if it doesn’t then I don’t really care because it’s all you get. \n\n",
"Congratulations! .. .. Please vote.",
"I hope you don't regret it already... ",
"Congratulations man. I'm ashamed to admit I often take for granted this thing you've spent so long to achieve. ",
"Pathetic americunt trying to show intelligence, but your racism and inner Texan is showing a tad eh. ",
"I'm Canadian dipshit. I simply understand the difference between a rifle and a machine gun because I'm not an uneducated child.",
"Yes all of them have sold. None are left. Do not try and get one.",
"As a British citizen reading this it almost makes me tear up how normal you make it sound. If I made any mention that owning a gun could be interesting over here it is met with 'only a criminal needs a gun'.\n\nI want freeeeedoooooom",
"GDP per capita means how much product per person is produced, not the total. It is a measure of efficiency and not result.\n\nYou said that there was\n\n>no funding for education and healthcare\n\nDespite there being funding for both of these as I showed you.\n\n>And lastly I said America is headed towards a third world country. It can’t even provide help for the hundreds homeless veterans. Provide help for children born into poverty. When there are countries in Europe that cover maternity leave and your hospital bills for said delivery.\n\nThat's not what third world means. Third world either means a country with low standards of living or a country that did not join NATO or WTO during the Cold War. Third world does not mean a lack of social programs or social aid, or more bluntly, third world does not mean a type of government you disagree with.\n\nAgain, you still have not provided a metric for what makes a \"third world country\" so I'll provide one for you: A country with a weak economy, a high unemployment rate and a corrupt or authoritarian government.\n\n",
"It heavily depends on who and where you are. Me and my family did it in 9 years. We were extremely lucky however, because we talked to a lot of interviewers who were sick and tired of hearing sob stories of people that came here, live on welfare and work for cash. It was a fresh breath for them when we went through and we had some great conversations and things took a long time but it was a smooth process. My final interview the guy asked a question that wasn't even on the test just to see if I paid attention in US history in highschool instead of just memorizing the 50 possible questions.\n\nEdit: 9 years for naturalization. Becoming a legal resident takes very little time. Not everybody cares about being a citizen. ",
"I don’t think that’s how obsessions work",
">one of the highest infant mortality rates in the developed world, most number of people going bankrupt because they can't afford their medication, most expensive college education, all the while spending 50% of our federal income tax on military industrial complex and dumbass wars we can't even win, growing income inequality = winning I guess.\n\nCould you have picked 3 more obscure statistics to prove America is joining the ranks of Nigeria, Somalia and Malaysia in the Third World? \n\nFirstly, you cannot cite stats for the developed world when the question is about America joining the third or undeveloped world. \n\nSecond, yes, a whopping 0.002% of the population is going bankrupt because of medical issues. Disastrous.\n\nYes, I'm sure the cost of college is going to really tank the US. It'll probably match the college prices of Sudan any month now. \n\nYou spend 50% of additional, not total, revenue to be clear. You spend most of your mandatory or guarenteed revenue on Social Security and healthcare.\n\nYep haha, income inequality that will soon match the income inequality in Zimbabwe. \n\nIt is so patently ridiculous to even pretend to compare the fucking US of A to these struggling nations. How many of these places even have colleges or any advanced medicine?",
"A fucking whole load of fearmongering and about a mountain of liberal salt right there.\n\nIf you truly believe that America IS ABOUT THE SAME TO LIVE IN AS THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES, get out. Actually leave. I cannot believe someone can exist who is so absolutely full of shit to believe that Americans are treated about the same as North Koreans. Have you ever read a news article describing these nations? \n\nWhen was the last American opposition purge? The last US genocide? The last American civil war or dictator? The last protest shot to pieces by machine gunners? The last American female to be shot through the eye walking to school?\n\nBullshit. Total fucking garbage.",
"Look at your own comment in context and think about intelligence. Remember my comment you couldn't reply to. You're the ignorant and bigoted shithead here. ",
"Doesn’t France have like super high taxes but you get like a place to live no matter what? I feel like I’ve heard that ",
"Your country divided itself from Farmers and laborers long ago. Your country sold its citizenship out to wealthy foreigners. Your country has a weak and failing military, and needs constant babysitting from the USA and NATO. Your country has made free speech illegal. Your country houses notorious biker gangs, who died over borders to escape persecution from the US.\n\nThe most valuable thing your country is the plastic prostitution in Montreal. \n\nThe only thing a Canadian has to be proud of is their ease of access to the USA.",
"EPIC photo!\n\nCongratulations! Welcome aboard, and we are very happy to have you!",
"I already started the process to obtain a European passport, since I'm eligible for citizenship in the country where my mother was born. Problem is, we'd have to live in that country for five years before my husband could get *his* citizenship, but he doesn't want to do that (he has a great job here and wouldn't get the same pay elsewhere.)\n\nPlan B was to move to Canada when his job had him traveling up there all the time, but he eventually changed jobs and doesn't travel up that way anymore. But we did our research! \n\nAmericans *think* they can just up-and-move anywhere they want at anytime, but you'd be surprised how easy it's NOT.",
"Why are you even on this sub?\n\nOh, you're Australian. Explains it.\n\n",
"Sounds like you could easily move to Europe if you wanted to, you could easily divorce him and just move.",
"My comment was to point out how stupid these labels that are put on America are. Shes still the greatest country in earth if you ask me. That’s why so many yearn to come here. I am blessed to have been born here. I forgot to put the /s tag at the end. I’ll leave it as is. I love this country despite our flaws, which I think are minor. ",
"True, but in the US, you can defend yourself.",
"I congratulated him didn't I?? Hell, it's no secret that many people are *extremely* uncomfortable with the political climate right now.",
"Easy peasy!! Okay brb........",
"Don’t know about the latter. Taxes are high in France. That part is true. I have only spent holiday there. I do know that my son was seriously ill and needed an ER check. I was struggling to go through the paperwork for the insurance, until i found put that the total costs were about 20 euro. Including meds. Only problem was that not a single doctor spoke English, and my French is maybe 3/10.",
"That’s cute, thank you 😊 ",
"Haha. Killin me!",
"Oh it's real alright ",
"There hasn't been any study conducted that was able to find how many crimes are stopped with the use of guns compared to how many are committed with the use of guns.\n\nIf you know of one, please let me know! I honestly would really appreciate it!",
"Well why are a lot of people saying “go to Haiti” then? \n\nI’m sure you understood what I meant ",
"I suggest you take a step back and compare the crime rates of different countries, and the compare gun violence vs accessibility. Other people have summarised this better than I can in this post. However, whatever statistics you want, you can likely find it on Wikipedia+WHO+UN.\n\nThe question your posing is almost impossible to answer by the way, because it inherently involves massive speculation.",
"I don't know, mate. It's different in Canada, the UK, France, and Germany. Now, sure like China or Japan may be hard, but the US is in its own category among Western nations.",
"Were the three flags of Liberia intentional?",
"Time you need to live in a country before you can aply for citizenship.\n\nBEL,5,Belgien\n\nBGR,5,Bulgarien\n\nBIH,k. A.,Bosnien Herzegowina\n\n\nCHE,12,Schweiz\n\nCZE,5,Tschechien\n\nDEU,8,Deutschland\n\nDNK,9,Denmark\n\nESP,10,Spanien\n\nEST,8,Estland\n\nFIN,5,Finnland\n\nFRA,5,Frankreich\n\n\nGBR,5,Grossbritannien\n\n\nGIB,k. A.,Gibraltar\n\nGRC,7,Griechenland\nHRV,8,Kroatien\n\nHUN,8,Ungarn\n\n\nIRL,5,Irland\n\nISL,7,Island\n\nITA,10,Italien\n\n\n",
"Yeah, most of these are really good. If you're Indian-born, for instance, it's 16 years in the US. Most of these places are like a third that. And it's like 11 years to residency starting today. Assuming things go at the present rate.\n\nYou don't actually have a clue about these things because you're just googling stuff. You've got superficial knowledge, like a random dude reading law and interpreting it. It can't be helped. You have neither the experience nor the expertise.",
"Great idea! According to the Brady Campaign (ugh), the state with the loosest gun laws is Utah and the state with the strictest is California.\n\nUtah violent crime rate: _2.36 per 1000 residents_\n\nCalifornia violent crime rate: _4.26 per 1000 residents_\n\nSource: The Neighborhood Scout\n\nSo of course it's the gun laws that determine how much crime is committed, and totally not the people who live in those places! /s",
">This is exactly why we need affordable public education. So you don't turn into such gullible idiots.\n\nI'm a college graduate, I have a bachelor's degree in Computer Engineering. Everybody who disagrees with you isn't an idiot, that's childish.\n\nI know you won't believe this because reddit tells you America is a hell hole of poverty, but this is the most prosperous country on earth. Almost every actual adult career offers health insurance benefits. Every veteran can go to any college they want to get a great job with the GI Bill. Colleges offer generous scholarships for any kid who puts in effort and want to succeed. ",
"Good eye!",
"awesome, and they're all from the book yes? like, they don't throw any surprise stuff in there? ",
"Hope you weren't from a shit hole country.",
"You know i found the first part of your response interesting.\nWhilst i dont know a thing about US Immigration and my only point was that I don't think 11 years to get citizenship is too much to ask for and i never claimed expertise on this subject.\n\nI bafles me that somehow it takes 18 years to get citizenship if you are indian born but 11 in other cases.\n\nSee i learned something here. If you wouldn't have escalated this to a dick measuring contest in the second part i could learn even more.\n",
"But it disparagingly discourages poor people. ",
"It doesn't make us ineligible for criticism. It's ironic, unlike rain on your wedding day, which is just bad luck.",
"Firstly, a country is not a state. Secondly, violent crime does not equal gun violence. \nAnd of course there are other factors that come into play (i. e. big cities with bad suburbs are more likely to produce gun violence) \n\nTo be fair, it is difficult to compare the US, because there are simply too many guns (the only country with more guns than people!). I reckon you are already past a point of no return. Guns may be simply a part of the US culture. \n\nInteresting links i just found:\n\nhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate\n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country\n\n",
"I was just making the point that the crime rates in different regions are not due to different gun laws, but the different people who inhabit them.\n\nAnd cares if a crime is committed with a gun or not? A crime is a crime, regardless of what tool is used. Just because a gun is used doesn't suddenly make it more severe than, say, a knife or club.",
"Welcome brother. ",
"You did it, reddit. 👏💯",
"Are you saying a gun is equally lethal as a knife or a club?",
"Absolutely.",
"“Owning a gun is a right” doesn’t really apply in this context. Yes it is your right to purchase a gun but it is also your right to purchase health insurance. Nice try though. ",
"Lol. Definitely deserve an upvote for this.",
"Then I would like to thank you for this discussion, but continuing seems rather pointless to me. Cheers. ",
"Yet health care in America price gauges. And treats it like it’s gas prices. But whatever. Just hope you don’t lose your job because of an accident and you lose your insurance. ",
"Thank you for addressing my point instead of just bailing. I really appreciate it.",
"If they hate it so bad here as many appear to, the \"difficulty\" in immigrating out of here should outweigh the pain of staying I would think.\n\nSince it seems, in actuality, it's not so bad here, what exactly are you trying to change?",
"Congratulations, welcome aboard! ",
"yasss\n",
"Hahahaha, touché, that's a good one. Upvote to follow.",
"Nope. I have family who have lived there. I trust their opinion. ",
"The great thing about America is that you have the chance to better your life if you do productive things.",
"I immigrated from Canada.\n\nUS immigration is bonkers. It took me 3 times to cross the border, as a highly paid, highly sought after professional. Xenophobic highschool dropouts are left with tons of discretion on things they have no idea how they work.\n\n We had to post a job ad looking for me when applying for my green card, which if we'd be able to find someone to fill we'd hire them too",
"My ancestors had a choice between prison and the Tennessee river valley. They made the right choice, i think",
"I apologize. I could have used a different tone.",
"That's not accidental. ",
"Come visit here and get your freedom fill! We love seeing people from other countries having fun shooting **with** us ",
"Way to go dude! I’m having traditional American toilet hour and it’s weird to see such a familiar face while pushing one out",
"Because im on a pictures sub? what?\n",
"Crap.\n\nWrong sub. I am very sorry, I was an ass ",
"Its ok. It happens to us all occasionally. I could have been a bit more polite too.\n",
"Because even empirical evidence won't convince you of your made up knowledge that you keep harping on about. Smarter People know more, End of story.",
"Uh huh. And merit based immigration ",
"Facebook is the site you're looking for ",
"U can put a hamster in a fish tank, but he will never be a fish, never",
"*being white helps considerably",
"At least it’s fair, no matter where you come from",
"oh, so sorta like the US then?",
"How so?",
">We don't allow people to walk with loaded fucking machine guns in the streets or at the mall.\n\nWe don't either, you jackass.",
"\"Loaded\" is relative to local laws. Loaded can mean round in the chamber, or it can mean loaded magazine inserted into the firearm, regardless of chamber status.",
"As I said, Emigration simply isn't—nor will ever be—an option for most, regardless of how much they may want to leave. There are certain economic, educational, and occupational barriers involved.\n\nSure compared to many other nations, the U.S. isn't a bad place to live. We are relatively free and enjoy a relatively high standard of living. However, for an industrialized Western nation we aren't even close to the top of the heap. As someone who has traveled the world and lived in three different countries and 4 different states (visited 40 of them), I can attest to this. In almost every metric related to quality of life and well-being, we have fallen far behind. The only thing we really excel in is average house size and disposable income, which is somewhat skewed by income disparity. \n\nWhat am I trying to change? As a U.S. citizen whose family has lived on this continent for over 250 years, I feel it is my duty to fight to ensure our country is the best it can be. Our healthcare system is one of the worst in the industrialized world, our public education system has been in the gutter for quite some time, race relations are extremely poor, corporatism is rampant, small businesses have been forced out of the market by corporations and we now have a Walmart and Applebees on every damn corner, our police are becoming increasingly militarized, etc. Shall I continue? \n\nYes, I'm going to bitch and moan and fight until our country can legitimately claim to be great instead of blindly waving a flag and shouting \"Murica!\" while turning a blind eye to our issues. Stop worrying about how great we are compared to Syria or Sudan and start worrying about fixing the problems we clearly have so we can catch up to the rest of the civilized world. It's our patriotic duty.",
"What do you consider a machine gun? And how do those long guns fall under that category?",
"Eh Not True. My TS/SCI took at least 6 months and im an American Citizen.",
"Racist.",
"Yeah,but that's a Top-Clearance check, and has additional stuff to it. Typically for immigration purposes, they require an identity history summary check where you basically have to send in your fingerprints and other identifying information to the FBI, and they check and see if you have any arrest recods etc. Other checks like affliation with any known criminal/terrorist organizations etc is typically done on a case to case basis by the immigration offices. ",
"I think you would be surprised at how much we agree on actually, I really do. I think where we differ is on how to get to where we want to be and I believe that is the case for most of us here in the U.S.\n\nI personally want freedom from government intervention in every aspect of our lives.\n\nWe long ago sold our souls out for material possessions rather than quality of life, that was a mistake. Who the he'll needs a 4500 square foot house, nobody!\n\nOur public education system has been destroyed by teacher's unions who have made it impossible to fire bad teachers. They don't have the best interests of the kids at heart but rather the well being of teachers. We spend more per student than any other nation on earth and have nothing to show for it. \n\nRace relations are a mess mostly thanks to Obama and racial politics.\n\nSmall businesses have been forced out because they can't afford to navigate the webs of regulation that corporations have gladly helped put in place. How has all this happened you ask? Money in politics is the reason and career politicians taking what amounts to bribes. There's very little wrong in this country that couldn't be corrected in short order by seriously limiting contributions and with term limits.",
"I used to work with him, he definitely is. Here's a [pic of OP with my good boy, Ikota.](https://imgur.com/a/cD0ju)",
"Russia Jr.",
"I've spent huge amounts of time in Chicago, there are places that are shitty, but the whole city is not at all a shitty town. Of all the big cities I've been to in the US it's my favorite. ",
"Our immigration process is not much different than that of other first world countries (UK, Canada). Having a tedious immigration process is no excuse for coming here illegally",
"Lol hey T! :D",
"It's pretty fun, I like it in here. Much easier",
"Congrats!",
"Moldova",
"Thank you for the tip. I saw that a replacement costs $375 so it's not too bad in case God forbid I lose it, but yeah better safe than sorry. The path was long and tedious. Long story short, came here in 06 as a exchange student for 4 months. Felt in love. Came back on 07, third time got a visa refusal because I \"could have been a potential illegal immigrant\". After 4 years of applications I won the green card through the DV program. Moved to US, followed the rules for 6 years and got my citizenship after more fees and paperwork. Overall it wasn't too hard (at least in my case) but it involved a lot of money, papers and stress from being worried not to f something up and get deported.",
"Ha I wish, I did get a flag though",
"I'll register to vote as soon as possible",
"It involved some editing in Snapseed",
"Had enough time to practice",
"I applied in May, got through all the appointments and paperwork till the interview that happened in January. Friday I had the ceremony.",
"Congrats! Bring friends or family and make a day out of it",
"I used to sing \"Creep\" at the karaoke a lot. I'll stop now.",
"Because I have no life",
"That's a lot of time / stress. Congrats!",
"😂😂😂😂 I just often wonder how real these posts are, or just for likes. Welcome to America citizenship btw",
"Lol hey A! Thank you!",
"It feels right. I was offered a few options to bend the law back in 07 when I came here on a J1 Visa, but I refused. I knew that this (citizenship) will eventually happen if I follow my dreams and I made the right decision.",
"I'll take one, thank you",
"Shithole :(",
"Thank you, I'll get them both. I lost my green card once and it was a stick in my wheel for traveling and other stuff",
"I actually was thinking about that but didn't have much time on my hands",
"8 months",
"So that's what that black box was by my door",
"Only if you want to",
"Thank you for the tip",
"Cool thanks for sharing! ",
"Not too shabby, see my other reply.",
"Reddit silver",
"I added the eagle and the flag, the rest was on the actual banner. It was Trump and the whole room went silent when he started to talk.",
"Can't wait.",
"It's true but look at some other countries, even the country where I'm from originally. It's not as bad but out government is corrupt as fuck, the police doesn't care and can be easily bribed, people die from starvation and sicknesses that are too expensive to cure, some kids don't have access to basic education programs and food, etc. I guess if you put things in perspective the whole world is burning",
"Some of the new rules for immigration kinda make sense. Especially one rule that says you should speak English. If I emigrated to Japan, I would have had to learn to speak Japanese. This rule should be applied to any country. I have a friend who won the green card and he didn't speak English at all when he moved here. Good job on learning it along the way, but I think at least the basic knowledge of the language should be a mandatory rule. Overall the process is not super hard if you do it the legal way and don't have any hickups with the law (arrests, membership in Nazi/communist parties, etc)",
"Ha! Thank you",
"Mulțumesc mult :)",
"It did cost big dollar bills to get",
"I'm a simple man. This post gave me enough karma to feed a small household for a week.",
"Moldova, thank you",
"McAllen?",
"I know right? It looks pretty awesome",
"I added the eagle and the big flag, the rest is on it",
"Corpus Christi area",
"Spoiler!!!!!",
"Kinda close, Moldova",
"Once issued that passport is just as good as your Naturalization Certificate. Congratulations and thank you for making your “journey.” ",
"Haha... That's a long toilet time, sir. Stop playing that tap game lol",
"I replied to a few comments but my path is 100% legal, I wanted to do.it the right way.",
"My friend took the photo and I added some of the background elements, it was indeed free",
"I will, I promise",
"Thanks :)",
"Close enough :)",
"Thank you!",
"If you don't find me asking, which field office processed it? I did my biometrics in May, still waiting on my interview. I'm in FL, but I think it's the Dallas office processing it.",
"That's awesome. Thank you for the reply!",
"Lol so it's just \"part and parcel\" to you like I said.",
"Nice work and congratulations!",
"Hopefully the investment pays off for you!",
"Yeah cool",
"Yea this is sadly true. ",
"I've never been there. :)",
"I admit most of my time is spent in France and Italy. I love visiting, but would hate living there. \n\nI really dislike the cultural differences between Texas and France. I don't think I could ever be happy there. I don't get warm fuzzies from French people, on the whole. (Not everyone.) I get very lonely after a couple of weeks. I miss the warmth of the Texas people. I think it might be hard for me to make close friends there.\n\nItaly was fantastic, but again, so different. Everyday things, like grocery shopping are so much harder in Europe. You are walking to the store, and carrying everything home. In Texas, I buy everything for two weeks and load up my car. I can buy a two liter bottle of Coke without worrying about how heavy it is or how far I have to go with it. \n\nBuying meat: you should go to the butcher, but you should also have a personal relationship with them. It's difficult if you don't speak the language well.\n\nIt's just what you are used to.",
"Get it while you can. Hopefully they will let you keep it once you have it.",
"Actual immigrants never regret coming to America because it's a great place to live.",
"Far more Canadians immigrate to the US than the other way around despite having less than 1/10th of the population.",
"Far more Canadians come to the US than the other way around despite having less than 1/10th the population.",
"I think I've heard Ireland only goes back as far as grandparents while Italy has no limit of generations, only the year of 1861 when that land became Italy as we know it today. ",
"....no, the opposite.",
"\"They happen, but not enough to warrant everyone carrying deadly weapons.\"\n\n There's a lot of things wrong with this but let's start here. You understand a knife is a deadly weapon, and as you people have personal experience with, vans can be as well, especially on something like a bridge.\n\n The next point I'd like to make to you is that you are literally saying there's not enough terror attacks to warrant people defending their lives. In countries with strict gun laws they nearly ALWAYS make up for a lower gun crime stat with higher knife crime, as again, you people should have firsthand knowledge of.\n\n Edit: Guns are tools and can be used to save lives that would otherwise be lost in ways a knife can't, unless the criminal doesn't have a gun, but again as you should know, criminals aren't exactly renown for following gun laws, or any laws.\n\n",
"You say that but many dont want citizenship path to illegals...something about breaking the law ",
"We do seem to agree on much, though our perception of the root of these issues differs. \n\nAs the husband of a public school teacher and someone who has researched public school issues extensively, I can unequivocally state that teacher's unions are the least of our worries regarding our lackluster education system. There is a positive correlation between quality of education and the strength of teacher's unions; states with the strongest teacher's unions have better qualified teachers, better funding, higher wages, and higher test scores and perform better on average (see link below). The myth that teacher's belonging to a union cannot be fired is perpetuated ad naseum and is patently false.\n\nhttps://illinoisupdate.com/2016/04/19/teachers-unions-are-associated-with-higher-student-test-scores/\n\nRace relations have always been poor in our country, unfortunately. As someone who grew up in rural Appalachia, I know all too well how bigoted a good portion of our country truly is. I strongly believe that our previous administration simply brought the issues to the forefront. The majority of folks I've spoke with who dislike Obama could tell me very little about his domestic or foreign policy and simply trotted out the tired Muslim/atheist/communist/birther talking points. My disdain for Obama has everything to do with his hawkish, neocon placating policies, and nothing to do with whatever made up conspiracies Rush Limbaugh pulls out of his ass. \n\nAs a small business owner, I have to disagree that corporations have helped put regulations into place. It is the very nature of a corporation to leverage its lobbying power to reduce regulations in order to boost profits. The Gilded Age should be enough to curb most libertarian deregulation fantasies. Unfortunately, our government is too inept to scale back regulations on small businesses to help level the playing field. Other than strict environmental and safety regulations for businesses, I'm a proponent of dropping most of/and or simplifying the mind numbing maze of regulations small business owners are required to navigate.\n\nAs for reforming our political system and keeping money and corporations out of politics, we couldn't agree more."
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"... advice?",
"Stop smoking",
"Ok honestly. The big thing is twofold, have some gum or like a sweet you can suck, and something for your main smoking hand to do. ",
"I interpreted this as:\n\n*If you want help trying to quit smoking, I recommend switching from packs of cigarettes to having to roll your own. We all know you’re lazy so the increase in required effort will result in less smoking.*\n\nThe flaw in this approach is that I would just end up buying another pack.",
"Took the words right out of my mouth. ",
"Every time you want a cigarette take a staple gun and shoot a staple into your dick. Pretty soon you'll stop wanting them. ",
"/u/highlifedreamer, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must not ask for general information or feedback. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/highlifedreamer&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q0fk6/advice_on_stopping_smoking/?context=10\\))",
"Really? Those were the words? Those words? Those exact words? Cause those are some stupid as fuck words when dealing with addiction. Oh hey stop drinking! Stop smoking! How? Well fuck you that's how just stop. Get out.",
"I believe I speak for both of us when I say it was meant to be sarcastic. ",
"Sarcastic on a post about quitting smoking? Maybe I don't get it. ",
"Reminds me of jocko willink 🤛"
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"My friends and I were at the Ice Castles in Dillon on Sunday night. I just wanted a picture of the rainbow ice (it changed colors every 20ish seconds), and my horrible over the head aim led to me getting this, and I'm really happy with it!\nWe were there from like 8-8:30 in case anyone thinks this is them or someone they know! Their friend took their picture from way to the right of me (you can see her here https://imgur.com/gallery/Qj9aC)",
"How much is entry this year?",
"Looks like 17 bucks in advance. 20 as a walk up."
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"No wing! ",
"I don't blame you, great shot!",
"Same!! Don't even care if there is a wing ",
"I prefer the aisle. If I leave my legs bent or straight for too long, my knees start to ache horribly, I think it's arthritis. Sitting in the aisle leaves me free to stretch out when I need to."
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"We need more of that in the world.",
"Happy birthday Randy! You're a good guy butt you've always got gas",
"Is this on Butterfield road? ",
"In bolingbrook?",
"Yes it is!",
"Glen Ellyn",
"Hahaha I knew it! I drive past this evey day! ",
"That's probably how you knew it.",
"I live so close to that BP 😊",
"This guy",
"Ah yes, another mystery solved. ",
"Actually also Wheaton, just passed by Glen Ellyn! Hola!"
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"I like how Trump supporters believe that they vastly outnumber everybody else but also they're an oppressed minority whose very way of life is under threat. ",
"Ooh anti trump circle jerk. This is fresh stuff!",
"This is a quality find",
"It's OK, snowflake. Just breathe. Maybe daddy won't say anything idiotic next week and people won't make fun of him? ",
"Fuck yeah! Do you want me on your right or your left for the circle? ",
"Trump is always gonna say and do retarded things though, doesn't that get boring to you?",
"Right behind be baby ",
"I mean, person is driving a truck as a daily driver but wondering why they never have any money.",
"I live across the ocean so I don't necessarily care. It's slightly amusing that 60 mil Americans think someone like that represents them best, though.\n\nAs for it being boring, no. I do find it annoying when right wingers get so offended over it. After 8 years of bitching about Obama and how everyone is so overly PC. You'd think they'd recognise the irony. ",
"This comment section is going to be in the shitter pretty quick",
"This is going to be a big circle ",
"It's not ironic, right? He's just affirming the first bumper sticker.",
"Ahhh, I love the smell of generalizations in the morning! ",
"being stupid is like being dead. it doesn‘t hurt you, but everyone around you",
"Welcome to the Shithole. Here's your welcome bag. In it you will find 50 Soros Bucks and some free welfare. Enjoy your stay!",
"\"The silent majority\" They're not the majority and they've been far from silent.",
"I just don't get how he even still has supporters lol..here in Florida only my white friends who were in frats still like him. This comment section will just be full of triggered people. ",
"What's the conversion rate for soros bucks to rubles?",
"Hey I drive a truck daily, we're not all dumb <3",
"Literally not what we believe but don't let facts interfere",
"Aaaaaaaaand the sanctimonious and childish bullshit that got him elected. Fucking people never learn. ",
"i wish i was confident enough in my political beliefs, to think that everyone else's is wrong and stupid. ",
"These people don't get irony, I know I have friends and family who are trump supporters... still. They have done things like complain about the high cost of secondary education \"shouldn't state school be free\" as well as how much they pay for insurance that doesn't seem to cover anything. And said things regarding care for their relatives on wellfare, and how if they get bumped off wellfare the state will take care of them. Really we are just lucky that things right side up.",
"you can afford to daily drive a truck in cali?",
"Maybe he's just really self-aware?",
"No irony here.\n\nThe bottom sticker is just TL;DR for the top...",
"Yeah, but it's not a large truck.",
"I hate trump, but I also like not having political stuff on this subreddit. Show me a cute cat or a mountain or something instead of ironic bumper stickers",
">I live across the ocean so I don't necessarily care. It's slightly amusing that 60 mil Americans think someone like that represents them best, though.\n\nNot necessarily best, just better than Hillary 😊",
"It's a base model F150",
"Electorially so.",
"Yeah? You just know what this random person in this truck is thinking? You don't know this person, dont put words in their mouth don't build a straw man and try to feel good about yourself because you saw a picture of a bumper with a Trump sticker and just think you're smarter than everyone. Because that's stupid. ",
"So, what are your reasons for supporting Trump?",
">won't say anything idiotic next week \n\nWhat are you, fucking new?\n\n",
"> f***\n\n You wouldn't talk that way around your grandmother would you young man?",
"Electorially of course, not majoritively.",
"He's fixing the economy. He's putting American interests first. He's not part of the establishment. He's repealing nonsense regulations at breakneck speed. I don't fall for the left wing media narrative. I don't care that he says mean things and hurts your feelings, reddit. I also don't care about the thousand downvotes for saying so, so go right ahead if it makes you feel better.",
"My grandmother is a corpse and can't hear me... so probably.",
"I almost want to post this next month so that I can also jump on the karma train.",
"> He's putting American interests first.\n\nLiterally the entire world is laughing at how inept this administration is, and he's making enemies out of our allies. \n\nHow, exactly, does that \"put America first\"?\n\n",
"No, as in in my opinion, I preferred Trump which is why I voted for him. I voted in PA 😉 \n\n>Electorially of course, not majoritively.\n\nYeah yeah whichever one makes him your President 😊",
"As a Trump hater, I must say your comment will probably be the dumbest comment in this thread.",
"Yeah that would be an example of the media bullshit ",
"You don't get out much, do you?",
"Don't worry the other side have them also.",
"Do you have an argument of any sort?",
" Being bad a jokes is like being Trump, people only laugh behind your back",
"Do you want to argue?",
"Next week? At this point I would settle for 24 hours. ",
"I answered a simple question. You are the one that sounds like you want to argue about my opinion.",
"Tell me how trump is negatively impacting your life.",
"Sorry, the rise of Trump ruined all social media too. Now it’s all politics. Not being concerned with politics is a privilege we once had because we could all assume the people whose job it is to govern would handle that shit. That time has passed. ",
"I think you misunderstand, the truck owner is celebrating the victory of organized morons. ",
"True, but most studies have shown time and time again that conservatives claim most of our nations ~~unintelligent~~ uneducated. \n\nhttps://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html\n\nhttp://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1968042,00.html\n\nhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201002/conservatism-linked-lack-education\n\nhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/09/15/educational-divide-in-vote-preferences-on-track-to-be-wider-than-in-recent-elections/\n\nEdit: I don't believe most people are truly that different in regards to intelligence. IQ is dynamic, you can gain and lose significant points for a variety of reasons. Enculturation, environment, and education plays a vast role in one's \"intelligence\" or ability to undertake more abstract thought. Despite the reasons, (I believe it cultural, not biological) conservatives tend to rely more on emotional ques than intellectual ones, intellectual laziness runs rapid in rural America, I was brought up in it in and saw it first hand in Appalachia. That's the biggest issue, there is a culture of ignorance, a pride in it. ",
"\n\nHow is he fixing the economy? What nonsense regulations?\n\nLmao@\"he's not part of the establishment\". You have got to be kidding.",
"/r/earthporn /r/aww Pics is sorta a grab bag of everything. ",
"Actually. They have a higher iq. That is a fact.",
"Not everyone elses, but certainly Trump supporters. Just like I'm not a astrophysicist but I'm confident that flat earthers are wrong and stupid. ",
"Oh no, don't do that to us.",
"I can't stand when people put magnets or stickers on their paint. Either bumper if it's a magnet or rear window if it's a sticker.",
"I also wish I were a democrat. ",
"#MAGA",
"Look who’s the president. You must be an angry pathetic liberal? Just saying MAGA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸",
"i get it. it's cool to hate Trump. please move on now.",
"Shhhh....don't trigger them.",
"Regardless, there's a ton of highly intelligent people that voted Republican and Trump. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, business men, CEOs etc voted for Trump. How does that make you feel? ",
"Yeah, that asshole should just fork over $70k for a tesla to save on gas money. ",
"If I had to describe reddit in one sentence, I would say \"One half cat pics, one half liberal circlejerk.\"",
"People in the upper class had a lot to benefit from a Trump presidency. This tax law shows it. In two years, my tax rate will be more than 2016, while upper tax brackets will stay low. How do you like that smarty pants?",
"Jesus tittyfucking Christ, is the election still not over?! Stop posting this shit.",
"I haven't seen this image before.",
"I'm sure plenty of intelligent folks making more than 200 thousand dollars did. Intelligent people can be greedy too. However, poor folks voting against their own wages, healthcare, and worker's rights just isn't intelligent no matter how you look at it (This includes most my family). At this juncture, the president is objectively a moron and the folks defending a lot of his recent bullshit are equally morons. ",
"And that would be an example of burying your head in the sand. Anything you don't want to hear is media bullshit or \"fake news\" ",
"[I don’t think of you at all](https://i.imgur.com/Q3bct5u.jpg)",
"This is reddit, ‘the face of the internet’, and trump kinda is the biggest problem in the first world right now, you know, him kinda doing a dick measuring contest and keeping the whole world on the edge of the seat wondering if one night he’ll say something wrong on his twitter account and start another world war.",
"Pretty ironic considering the frequency with which this exact same post hits the front page.",
"Bro Trump is ruining everything in my life, I can't even begin to say the things he is ruining for me.",
">trump kinda is the biggest problem in the first world right now\n\nLol, no. Try again for half credit.",
"Incorrect. I couldn't care less if it were true. I don't care what the rest of the world thinks in the slightest. This just happens to also be bullshit. Believe it all you like. I bet you believe a lot of bullshit. What did you expect to happen on election night? I'm guessing a 46 state Clinton landslide aka media bullshit. Cheers.",
"Trump is your President.",
"A silent majority that ended up voting more for Clinton. ",
"I support Trump and agree with this comment. ",
"You realize that you constantly implying they're stupid is one of the things that galvanized them and ultimately led to him winning right?",
"These posts, for one.",
"Thank you! Now let’s see you get downvoted to oblivion...",
"They're not capable of understanding reality. Cause and effect is too logical.",
"Yeah he's a big problem fixing your economy and not selling out to China so corporations can have slaves.",
"Same thing I would say to co-workers who used to talk about Obama every day.",
"Don't bother, they live in an alternate universe where Trump is invading Poland.",
"You may be the first self-admitted Trump hater I can respect. Cheers man. (Not a Trump supporter, not a Trump hater.)",
"I'm guessing you must be an MS13 gang member in the U.S. illegally who votes.",
"When one of the most powerful men on earth calls other countries ‘shitholes’ and getting away with it, it’s kinda a problem",
"Bit lazy to rewrite, but I made a short list of wonderful subreddits [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/chemicalreactiongifs/comments/7ple9g/a_drop_of_dichloromethane_on_water_spiraling_out/dsi7ii6/?context=3) as well. I hope you all enjoy them. Happy Friday to you and cheers, friends! 😁",
"There usually is a way to filter out political pictures and political themed things in different subs. Idk how tho. \n\nUsually an automod is in the comment and says \"this post is about us politics. Learn how to filter these out if you do not want to see them\"\n\nAnd they usually have a link where it brings you to the place to filter the stuff you want to see and don't want to see. ",
"A little vulgarity is nothing to freak out about.",
"Thanks for the tip!",
"Some people's went up, some got lowered, that's just how it goes. \n\nIn what world is 32-37% tax \"staying low\"",
"All of my gay/trans/gender fluid/black/muslim/mexican friends have been carted off to the gulags JUST like the left said they would. ",
"Well said",
">mfw an American thinks a democrat is left wing \n\n\n>mfw I voted for someone EVEN more left wing than the Liberals during the last provincial election \n\n\n>mfw they won\n\n\n>mfw you’re dumb ",
"No problem, hope it can help! I too am exhausted of US politics. It's draining. Not sure how people do it for a living. ",
"I think Trump has done a great job",
"Opinions aren't reality.",
"Right...so stimulating the economy and lowering the majority of Americans taxes is not putting America first....",
"It'll die down after he wins the re-election in 3 years. Just like Reagan...and Bush.",
"But he’s a leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world, he needs to set a proper example and show that he can do his job, and it’s unfair that he is in a position to help that country, but nah, they all just live in a shithole.",
"\\>mfw a dumb euro can’t use meme arrows",
"...This world?\n\nAre you aware of tax rates in other countries? ",
"Now might be a good time to remind OP that Hillary won the popular vote……",
"In their defense, people are freaking out less about the profanity than trump’s general attitude towards people in third world countries and immigration overall. It’s almost like he’s saying “fuck these people, we don’t want them here. We want people from rich countries to come here.”",
"I’m pretty sure we provided plenty of help to all the shitholes he was referring to. I’m pretty sure the global community has given them plenty of aid through the UN. If all that aid and help hasn’t made them decent countries in all this time than I hardly see a problem in calling them shitholes. It’s what they are.",
"Never underestimate how shit a subreddit can become when politics gets involved. ",
"Sorry I don’t sit around in my parents basement making memes all day\n\nAlso provinces =\\= Euro. You should probably attend Geography 8 someday. Your mom can’t stand to watch you waste your potential on memebucks",
"Anxiety regarding his future actions. And thats a question is stupid. Ebola tell me how it is negatively impacting your life. Polar bear extinction, tell me how it’s negatively impacting your life. Nuclear proliferation, tell me how it’s negatively impacting your life. North Korean human rights violations, tell me how it’s negatively impacting your life. A lot of horrible things that are happening in the world aren’t directly impacting most people’s lives. ",
"Sure it may be a tad wrong to say that, but isn’t that pretty much what we’re all usually thinking? I can’t think of anyone who would pick a person from Rwanda over someone from Taiwan, given just the nationalities.",
"> I like how ~~social media \"activists\"~~ the majority of Americans believe that they vastly outnumber everybody else \n\n",
"Ok.\n\n\\>mfw a dumb shitholer thinks he’s superior",
"Fair enough you make a good point, I don’t like calling them shitholes, but man you do you, I was wrong",
"Can’t we all just get along fellas",
">dumbshitholer\n\nReaaaally proving your intelligence buddy.\n\nEdits his comment like a typical troll lol",
"> I couldn't care less if it were true.\n\nWell there's your problem.",
"This just in: the world is not the same. ",
"I mean except for the coal we are exporting to them. ",
"As a member of the ruling class, Trump and other bourgeoisie keep their boots firmly on the necks of the lower classes. He's already endangered medical coverage for many middle-to-lower-class people, given tax breaks to the employers who steal their labor, and committed *my* tax money towards harming the environment even more.\n\nHe *has* made it really easy to find the people we need to round up, so I guess he's not *all* bad.",
"The countries are shitholes, doesn't mean the people are.",
"Hurr durr.",
"Well hey, thanks for being reasonable. You do you.",
"When it pisses off our allies and makes other nations not want to work with us, it’s a BIG fucking problem. \n\nThe more Trump does this shit the more he’s pushing the rest of the world right into China’s arms. Does that sound like a good thing to you? Our allies telling us to fuck off and making friends with *China* instead?",
"Not every country has to have the same tax rate. If someone is complaining about people being in higher tax brackets, then their (lower) taxes obviously aren't high enough either. \n\nYou cant complain taxes are too low and too high at the same time ",
"I know this may not be obvious to you guys, but he is talking about you, you dumb socialist progressive left wing Reddit posting idiot losers.",
"*not quite sure if troll or fellow republican*",
"DAE TRUMP",
"I'm just a Canadian passing by",
"Yeah, thank you too",
"OMG! CEOs and businessmen voted for trump! stop the fucking presses! \nYou’re describing rich people who actively invest in republican candidates because they have a high likely hood of passing tax cuts for corporations and businesses. Like the one just passed. ",
">i wish i was confident enough in my political beliefs, to think that everyone else's is wrong and stupid.\n\nRead more books and educate yourself. \n\nI've been around awhile, and I've always respected political beliefs, regardless of whether or not I agreed with them.\n\nBut this isn't normal, nor is modern republicanism respectable. ",
"Shit -> Hole",
"You mean cutting taxes for the richest 1% and making the rest of us foot the bill? I'm sure that money will trickle down our way eventually.",
"I'd still like to hear how Obama negatively affected people.\n\nAny takers?",
"And how often do I have to listen to people compain about any of those thing compaired to how often I have to listen to people complain about Trump?\n\nOr are you saying this one man is far worse and a bigger threat then all of those things combined?",
"Get ready for a mind blowing fact: Intelligent people that make below 200k voted for him. Most of those careers make less than 200k on average. ",
"Oh, hello! Good day then",
"Really? Then explain [this.](https://imgur.com/a/SrFf9) \n\n/s",
"Isn't he also implying that they are stupid? Is that ultimately going galvanize the left?",
"found the Trump supporter. also, no, please, no, come back we'll all miss you so much. ",
"I didn't vote and nope",
"Bernie negatively impacted my life in a similar way.",
"wasn't this posted already few months ago?",
"Here's a partial list of people he has really harmed:\n\n--Everyone who uses the internet and doesn't own a significant stake in an ISP, due to the repeal of net neutrality\n\n--Every single American, due to our loss of international standing. In the long term this means higher prices for imported goods, and fewer chances for international partnerships (http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/)\n\n--Hundreds of thousands of DACA recipients, spending every hour of every day not knowing whether they are going to be deported in a year to a country they haven't been to since they were 2 years old\n\n--Millions of Muslim Americans who have to deal with increased bigotry because of Trump's comments on the \"evils of Islam\"\n\n--Every voting American, for Trump's refusal to acknowledge that Russia meddled in our election, and thus we are doing nothing to prevent the same in future\n\n--Tens of thousands of would-have-been refugees fleeing war and violence, from Trump cutting the number of refugees we take in by half\n\n--Thousands of transgender service members who he told would be kicked out of the military they have served, many for decades\n\n--Anyone who uses marijuana, due to the Feds crackdown on states who have made it legal\n\n--Every taxpayer, who are going to pay for a 20 foot wall that will be easily thwarted by...wait for it...ladders. Just like the existing stretches of wall are now\n\n--Americans of color who have to deal with the increased racism caused by Trump's support of the alt-right and his racist rhetoric\n\n--Millions of people internationally who will lose access to HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment (since you probably haven't seen this one on Fox News: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/05/19/528778797/the-ripple-effect-of-cuts-to-u-s-funds-for-overseas-abortion-services)\n\n--Everyone who has children. Our children look up to the president as a leader, and will copy his immature tweeting, personally attacking people based on their physical appearance, and much more vile shit he does\n\n--Women who want an abortion who happen to live in a red state\n\n--Thousands of people who had US travel visas, turned away from seeing their families by Trump's travel ban\n\n--Every American who is ever swindled by a corporation, due the degradation of the powers given to the Bureau of Consumer Protection\n\n--Anyone who values freedom of the press. As the president attacks news outlets who cover him negatively, our freedom of press wanes\n\n--200,000 Salvadorans who, here legally for 17 years, being deported to an extremely dangerous country for no good reason other than \"they're different than us!\"\n\n--Anyone with children and grandchildren, who are going to live on a shittier planet due to climate change effects\n\n--Anyone who enjoys hunting, fishing, hiking, or really doing anything outdoors due to the loss of sound environmental protection laws\n\n--Anyone who lives on the coast, due to the loss of offshore drilling bans in sensitive ocean environments\n\n--Women, due to Trump's support of sexual predators like Roy Moore (other men, and children, see this and think it's ok)",
"Ah yes the, \"Trump isn't taxing the rich like a dictator would!! Trump is obviously a dictator!\", Defence.",
"I have had enough of this fucking place. Like seriously what are the moderators smoking to allow this type of shit. It doesn't relate to the nature of the sub. Once and a while is fine. I LIKE SEEING DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW. But its gone past that point and it's just annoying. I wanna see interesting photography and such. None of these pictures are even insightful anymore it basically just boils down to \"fuck trump am I right?\". You know I didn't even vote for Trump I voted for Gary Johnson but sometimes this kind of over pretentious, winey bullshit makes me wish I did vote for Trump. ",
"The problem here is you believe being a Doctor, lawyer, engineer or whatever is equal to being intelligent and that isnt true at all.",
"I feel as though they know they're talking about themselves like...\n\n\"COME AT ME BRO! DON'T UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER!\"",
"So this is what you want to see out of /r/pics?",
"It's the same as unicorns to leprechauns. ",
"I mean, /r/pics is already a shithole so it belongs, I guess.",
"That's like saying \"I get it. It's cool to hate Hitler. Please move on now.\" Silence does not help the situation and at a minimum it tells our citizens and the world that we are okay with it. If you don't like these posts, don't read them.",
"And my reputation as an American. I've been ashamed of our countries actions before but this takes the cake.",
"One of those looks a lot newer than the other. ",
"Why because he wants to get rid of obama care? The healthcare that violates the constitution? Guess what, the people that would lose healthcare would be the same ones that didn’t have it before. \n\nThe democrats are the ones who use the lower class to advance their agenda. They want to see more and more people on welfare and public aid.\n",
"\"Educate yourself\" \nYou know because CLEARLY there is only one way to think! If you don't think our way, well then you are uneducated. That's it and that's all. I mean after all we do live in an objective reality, right? Clearly Im right because I read books. No one who reads books could be wrong and there is also no opinions in books. So yeah read some books and you will know the truth.",
"That’s ‘America hating dumb, progressive, etc’ to you pal!\n\nI HATE AMERICA! There, I said it!",
"Probably because it's a Ford ",
"Why is everyone on this website such a fucking reactionary baby\n\nYou just let yourself be triggered by a lame joke about a bumper sticker, that’s sad as hell dude",
"Yeah they benefit, I don't disagree there. Obviously there's stats out there that describe the salaries and occupations of the voters but I personally know plenty of doctors and healthcare professionals that voted Trump. All I'm saying is that your stereotypes that you like to make on reddit aren't the fast and hard rules. Might be worth taking a second look at voter demographics. ",
"Unless you are a millionaire, you are in the \"went up\" camp too. \n>In what world is 32-37% tax \"staying low\" \n\nOkay, so you are talking about the corporate tax rate. Did you know that the republicans raised your taxes to pay for cutting the corporate tax rate? In the first few years, you will pay fewer taxes, but then it spikes higher than it is now. It's a total bait and switch. You are personally providing welfare to Apple. ",
"The Trumpsters probably over estimated the SJWs and libs that would show up to vote. We won in the end anyway.",
"The democrats fucking suck. They're all corporatists, and none of them lose sleep when the weakest in our society go hungry, or cold, or lose their jobs. They all get their kickbacks and they all need to get a rude awakening that the people hold their fates in our hands, and not the other way around.\n\nThe healthcare doesn't violate the constitution. It also is a piss poor stand-in for *real* healthcare reform, which the wealthiest nation on the planet could easily afford, but guess who'd dick they'd rather suck? The lot of 'em- Dems, republicans, \"libertarians\".\n\nWe're all in this together, and our fates are intertwined whether we like it or not. The only question left is Socialism or Barbarism- there is no other option left. Capitalism is crumbling all around us, and if you're not in the top 10%, it has failed you *miserably*.",
">You cant complain taxes are too low and too high at the same time \n\nYes, one can. Simpletons can't.",
"Did you hear that on CNN?",
"Because he's a Trump supporter means you don't like him? For all you know he could be cool as shit and your just throwing him to the curb because of one thing he said.",
"HAHA HAHA!!! DRUMPF HAHA AM I RIGHT!?!?!!!1!!",
"gottem",
"Nah dude, fuck that guy and fuck normalizing moronic, self-serving despots as leaders. You were right the first time.",
"How is that ironic?",
"yep. if you voted for the hypocritical, racist, and sexist piece of shit I don't like you. don't care how \"cool\" you are.",
"Don’t worry bro I upvoted",
"wow, thats a big boy word. Do you feel smart now?",
"So now it's ironic for a conservative to insult liberals? ",
"When your democrats give you the talking points of the rich getting a tax break, please realize that \"rich\" is code for the taxpayer.",
"lol 7 more years of butthurt",
"Ah, so a bootlicker. I'm not up on the latest in spineless-nazi talk, but I think this comment thread violates the NAP.\n\nAnd I don't \"support\" Stalin so much as idolize him. Like, I don't know if I want to *be* him, or find someone who looks just like him and have him take my gay cherry, yanno?",
"To be fair neither side has been exactly silent in the last year.",
"Hi ",
"It’s an admission, not irony. ",
"Right, being intelligent means being a weed smoking atheist barista redditor that masturbates on an hourly basis. Tell me, how do you define intelligence and how do you quantify that in voter demographics? \n\nSo Dems are all high and mighty about how dumb Republicans are up until you ask them how they define intelligence. Lol. ",
"This made me smile. Thank you! 😁",
"You see this is a website about discussion. People like to share there opinions here. This post was posted with the intent that people would talk about it. That's the point. ",
"Political stuff is just a part of the internet, free speech and all of that. Specifically removing it would be censorship, a slippery slope one would want to avoid. There is nothing compelling you to click on this post and comment, just simply put your finger on your middle mouse button and scroll on past.",
"Lol.",
"None of them believe that, stop projecting ",
"Intelligence is more complex that getting a degree in college, in fact the definition of intelligence is very complex, you are the one jumping conclusions.",
"Yeah everyone's always shitting on the Nazis it makes me want to vote Nazi. ",
"This is r/pics not r/politics we came here for photography not to hear about your or anyone else's political agenda.",
"Canada, dude. It's right there. How do you not know that?",
"I'm added it to the list and it is relevant. I prefer to be proud of my country, but maybe that's just me. Sorry if I ruined your day...",
"Absolutely.\n\nThink of all those Clinton supporters who had meltdowns because they couldn't believe Trump won.\n\nlol",
"It's funny that you say that when that's literally what this post is. It's criticizing this guys political beliefs to make him look stupid. I know you're not OP, but so many people say \"oh I want people to believe in whatever they want\" but as soon as someone has an opposing belief they say their ideas are stupid. \n\nReddit has been full of this lately and it's incredibly annoying and hypocritical, regardless of what \"side\" you're on. \n\nE: Some of y'all are breathing stereotypes, and almost every comment that replies to this is some variation of \"You're stupid and wrong if you don't think the way I do\". ",
"Tell me, how do you define intelligence and how do you quantify that in voter demographics? ",
"The downvotes are for expressing willful ignorance. Trump is destroying this country, and you're cheering him on. Republicans don't give a shit about the economy, and neither does Trump. It's nobody else's fault that you refuse to think critically.",
"No one forced him to click this link and read the comments. Fucking snowflakes",
"I doubt that he's sitting in his chair with rage over it, he's just saying that it's annoying seeing this content everywhere, especially on a subreddit that really shouldn't be hosting this kind of content. ",
"You're literally the problem, shutting down people and their views because you disagree with them. ",
"Probably because I don't live in Canada.",
"And it's on every sub, it's getting exhausting and increasingly divisive",
"Its funny that people think that many Trump voters aren't happy with what is happening.",
" they're both fake",
"My health insurance went up 100%, so that was neat. ",
"no, the problem is that there's a racist, sexist, hypocritical piece of shit in the office of the President and he's dragging the country down the toilet. And for some reason people insist on defending him.",
"I'm so sick of just seeing anti trump stuff EVERYWHERE on here. I can't believe this stuff still gets upvotes just because it's the same message every time. ",
"Yep you got it that one just went right over your fucking head didn't it? You know what wouldake me wanna vote Nazi is if people brought up hating Nazis in a matter that was completely irrelevant just to spark meaningless controversy and get a feel of moral supirority. Like really at that point I would probably say \"fuck it\" this world is already screwed. ",
"r/pics is a shithole.",
"You had me until the last sentence where you sound like a massive hypocrite. \n\nThe respecting both sides, then insulting one side",
"Just having a respectable convo, we are in this together",
"Also, 62 million > 65 million. Math is hard.",
"Trump supporters care more about micro aggressive social issues than anyone on the left does. They just make it seem like it's the real problem, because they were deluded into following a man that shits on a gold throne as the champion of their subpar IQ and education level. Disappointed in what they are actually getting, they lash out at the usual easy targets, the ones that are even easier to make fun of than themselves because they are also extremeified and stupefied. ",
"This man is our representative against all those things combined. You can't talk about them without involving him.",
"Here's a partial list of people he has harmed:\n\n--Everyone who uses the internet and doesn't own a significant stake in an ISP, due to the repeal of net neutrality\n\n--Every single American, due to our loss of international standing. In the long term this means higher prices for imported goods, and fewer chances for international partnerships (http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/)\n\n--Millions of Muslim Americans who have to deal with increased bigotry because of Trump's comments on the \"evils of Islam\"\n\n--Hundreds of thousands of DACA recipients, not knowing whether they are going to be deported in a year to a country they haven't been to since they were 2 years old\n\n--Every voting American, for Trump's refusal to acknowledge that Russia meddled in our election, and thus we are doing nothing to prevent the same in future\n\n--Tens of thousands of would-have-been refugees fleeing war and violence, from Trump cutting the number of refugees we take in by half\n\n--Thousands of transgender service members who he told would be kicked out of the military they have served, many for decades\n\n--Anyone who uses marijuana, due to the Feds crackdown on states who have made it legal\n\n--Every taxpayer, who are going to pay for a 20 foot wall that will be easily thwarted by...wait for it...ladders. Just like the existing stretches of wall are now\n\n--Americans of color who have to deal with the increased racism caused by Trump's support of the alt-right and his racist rhetoric\n\n--Millions of people internationally who will lose access to HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment (since you probably haven't seen this one on Fox News: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/05/19/528778797/the-ripple-effect-of-cuts-to-u-s-funds-for-overseas-abortion-services)\n\n--Everyone who has children. Our children look up to the president as a leader, and will copy his immature tweeting, personally attacking people based on their physical appearance, and much more vile shit he does\n\n--Women who want an abortion who happen to live in a red state\n\n--Thousands of people who had US travel visas, turned away from seeing their families by Trump's travel ban\n\n--Every American who is ever swindled by a corporation, due the degradation of the powers given to the Bureau of Consumer Protection\n\n--Anyone who values freedom of the press. As the president attacks news outlets who cover him negatively, our freedom of press wanes\n\n--200,000 Salvadorans who, here legally for 17 years, being deported to an extremely dangerous country for no good reason other than \"they're different than us!\"\n\n--Anyone with children and grandchildren, who are going to live on a shittier planet due to climate change effects\n\n--Anyone who enjoys hunting, fishing, hiking, or really doing anything outdoors due to the loss of sound environmental protection laws\n\n--Anyone who lives on the coast, due to the loss of offshore drilling bans in sensitive ocean environments\n\n--Women, due to Trump's support of sexual predators like Roy Moore (other men, and children, see this and think it's ok)",
"A repost at that",
"Tell the mods. I didn't post this nor do I have control of this subreddit.\n\nIMO anti-Trump and anti-Trump supporter posts and news coverage should be everywhere until he is gone. This situation goes beyond normal politics. Your annoyance at seeing this type of post is irrelevant compared to the damage happening to our country and it's citizens.",
"Aaaaaaannndddd, that's why he won.",
"They were in a small minority. So we have a case where the majority of idiots all voted for one person, with a small minority of the smart people also doing so. This doesn't take away from the fact that it was really stupid people and really old people that voted for Trump in the majority, and got him elected.",
"Insurance for a ton of people went up drastically. I still think obamacare was an overall good step in the right direction. My mortgage is lower than my healthcare honestly.",
"I support Trump, except for when he opens his mouth (leave the dang twitter shit alone, bud!), but even so this here is funny!",
"You should really have a basic understanding of the government of our closest ally. This should be embarrassing to you.",
"Lol. Yeah like all those coal jobs that's never coming back despit what Trump says and all those post tax cut layoffs we just saw? You've been duped. ",
"What an interesting picture!",
"Yes the irony of the reddit leftist hive mind is strong.",
"It's over. Close it all down, he left! ...where's the plug for this bad boy?",
"Then they are fucking dumb. ",
"I don't necessarily see damage being done more of threatening your moral compass, and I do mean that in the nicest of ways. I am thuroughly curious on your mindset.",
"Gods forbid we elect someone with a vagina! That would surely be the beginning of the End-Times^^TM for sure!\n\nAnd before you ask, I think that Hillary is (to quote myself) \"an arrogant, entitled piece of shit who was born into wealth and privilege and who thinks that the world owes her, well, *the world* for no other reason than she is rich\"\n\n----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nEdit: Sorry! Really sorry everyone! I forgot the /s! Mea culpa, and all that.",
"I wasn’t but now that you mention it, yes he is worse. He has the power to bring on a nuclear apocalypse... tonight. ",
"I'm a 24 year old minority mixed female living in Los Angeles. In the time that Trump has been president, I've been harassed and yelled at by shit customers who think they deserve the fucking world.\n\nBecause of him, I may be kicked off my parents health insurance next year and will have to begin paying $100 a month for medication I need every day... that normally is $5 with insurance.\n\nBecause of him, I literally have classmates at my $40,000 University, having a panic attack in class because they are DACA recipients. Bear in mind, most of these people don't even speak their home language. The only difference between my classmate and I is that she was born in Philippines and I in California but our ability to speak Tagalog is shit because we were both raised here.\n\nThere's a whole other slew of bullshit that is impacting my life and those around me, so yes, if you voted Trump, get the fuck away from me.",
"Blacks fall behind on the bell curve in regards to iq and asians in the top, but that's racist science because you don't agree with it, when it insults your \"enemy\" suddenly it's factual",
"Lol what? Is that what you believe? ",
"Not really.",
"cool. found another supporter of the racist, sexist, hypocritical piece of shit. make no mistake, I'm not calling you the racist, sexist, hypocritical piece of shit, I'm just saying you voted for him, you're the reason he's in office, and that's why I don't like you. if you can't handle that, maybe you shouldn't have voted for him.",
"I had to sit next to a classmate of the same ethnicity, who is paying the same amount as I do for our $40,000 University, while she cried because she was fucking scared she was getting sent to the Philippines... a country she hasnt been to since she was 2.",
"Please link me to a chart that shows the economy was in shambles.\n\nhttp://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years\n\nhttp://www.macrotrends.net/2488/sp500-10-year-daily-chart\n\nhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/\n\nhttps://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/OUTMS\n\nPlease list some nonsense regulations that he has removed.",
"I'm with you, and kudos. Respectful dialogue is the aspiration, but it takes two to tango.",
"yes because Trump is literally Hitler.",
"Sorry, I forgot to add /s at the end or typing in all caps like you did. Thought it was obvious but I guess you're either too dumb to know or too angry to care. I'm done with this thread.",
"Just because you got older, doesn’t mean people haven’t cared about politics until now...",
"First at all, I never tried to call every Trump voters a non intelligent person, sorry if my post was misleading.\n\nIm just pointing getting a degree isnt necessary being intelligent, because intelligence is a collection of capacities, a lot of them. To put this in context.\n\nA basketball player have other kind of intelligence than a Doctor, or an Engineer. A tribeman is able to hunt, and survive in the jungle, put a lawyer there and probably he gonna die, does that mean the lawyer is less intelligent than the tribeman? No.\n\nEducation and intelligence are not the same, you can be a intelligent person without education or a educated person who lack of some capacities.\n\nThink about that, there are rich people who are into weird sects or even people with degrees who believe the earth is flat",
"haha yea, its a reference from the office",
"Not the bogeyman you people have created, sure. But modern republicans are not all racists and Nazis as you seem to think ",
"190k is close enough. Count investments or discount failing private primary care providers and I bet the average goes above 200. At least for the physicians.",
"He's the face of all of it right now, how can you not see that?",
"well, I wouldn't mind it so much if I were getting paid...",
"Lucky you that your life as you know it isn't being threatened by the politics of the US. Be grateful that you can afford to ignore politics and continue without having fight for what you deserve. ",
"Yknow, I’m quite tired of this whole anti trump circle jerk that Reddit’s become in the last few months. ",
"That's very true. ",
"I could say the same about the opposing party, and would get equally hateful responses. It's almost like the two disagreeing parties have a lot in common! ",
"What's your favorite thing about Trump?",
"Dude, you hit the nail on the fucking head. ",
"He killed more civilians in air strikes than any other president to date. \n\nHe traded top leaders in Al-Queda for a military deserter (traitor), which I'm sure hasn't harmed anyone at all.\n\nUnemployment went to highs, as well as food stamp usage.\n\nHe illegally wire-tapped citizens, and allowed Hezbollah to traffic Heroin into the United States\n\nJust to name a few off the top of my head. :)",
"Yeah, what a bunch of idiots!\n\nhttps://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/611/30/8030611.png",
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"> He's fixing the economy.\n\nCould you give examples, please?\n\n> He's putting American interests first.\n\nAgain, could you give examples, please?\n\n> He's not part of the establishment.\n\nPlease define \"establishment\", and explain how Trump is not a part of it, and what it is that he is a part of.\n\n> He's repealing nonsense regulations at breakneck speed.\n\nWhich regulations, and way, exactly, are they \"nonsense\"?\n\n> I don't fall for the left wing media narrative.\n\nCould you please define \"left wing media\", and give examples?",
"Show me a valid source describing how any are false. Every single one of these is true, most Trump has even publicly touted himself. I'll wait.",
"I knew your type would take what I said literally. Like really I'm surprised you didn't pick up on a hint of sarcasm. It was an allagory for what some people, typically left leaning do. Also I don't care that your grandfather gunned down nazis. I'm not a Nazi. ",
"Of course he's not but the point is that you shouldn't be silent when a person in power is hateful, racist, and who's actions threatens millions of people. I doubt people in Germany thought Hitler would do what he did at first. By the time reasonable Germans figured it out it was too late. Who knows what would happen if Trump got everything he wanted. ",
"Well, Bush Sr lost. I think that's what will happen. No president has recovered from approval ratings this low. And minorities are voting in force now.",
"Like religion, the voters in question opt a vote for ones tribe rather than a vote based off of reason. \n\nAmerican politics now just reflect the larger tribalistic culture war inherent in our growing socioeconomic class disparity. ",
"lol",
"Aren’t you in high school ",
"Please post to r/irony.",
"Reddit is a circle jerk of Trump hate. Echo chamber for the left. Posting in the_donald will label you a nazi which is ridiculous. It used to be okay to have different opinions and not be judged by it. Trump is my president as well as everyone else for the next 3 years. Here’s to a great economy and USA not becoming a shit hole 😂",
"I'm of voting age. ",
"So are redditors the opposite of trunpnsupporters now or did you not even bother to try to stay relevant to the conversation when setting up that strawman?",
"If you don't see the damage Trump's presidency is doing, there is nothing I can say that would change your mind or add to what is being reported. ",
"Fair enough ",
"Did you report her to ICE?",
"Ah man last time my welcome bag only had a turd in it",
"So when smart Republicans vote they're doing it for their tribe but when smart Democrats do it they do it because they're smart. Gotcha. ",
"So because Trump supporters feelings got hurt, they're justified in voting for a racist idiot? ",
"A Republican may not be, but the party sure seems to be highly invested in white supremacy, authoritarianism, nepotism, corruption and a host of other things that really aren't benign.",
"No it's not annoying it's common sense. \n\nAnyone can have whatever view they want but if they have fucking dumbass ignorant views, like being a Trump supporter, then they deserve all ridicule.\n\nThere is no special protection for having an opinion. Supporting racism and anti intellectualism isn't okay just because it's packaged in a political party. \n\nNo one here is making him look stupid, he's doing that all by himself by displaying that he's a Trump supporter.",
"Basically EU's view on every decision made in the US pretty much ever\n",
"where's the irony... they didn't vote for Hillary",
"Why the fuck would I do that?\n\nWith my luck, they'd take me too based on the fact that I'm the only other filipino in the room.\n\n",
"> willful ignorance. Trump is destroying this country\n\nI'm sure the irony of this is lost on you\n\n",
"Oh nooooo we will miss you soooooooooo much don’t go pls nooooooo /s",
"Personally, I recommend the Heritage Foundations take on Social Justice. I found it highly informative and insightful to the agenda behind much of modern politics in the US.",
"401(k) says otherwise.\n\nEdit: Every downvote makes me happier that Trump is my president. ",
"Nice source on that ",
"He's at 46% now and those polls are fake otherwise Hillary would be having pedophile parties in the White House with Weinstein again.",
"You are an accessory. Should have called ICE.",
"The irony is that Hillary got more votes so. . . Trump wins again.",
"The true irony is that this is posted on Reddit",
">increasingly\n\nand it was already divisive to begin with.",
"I'm going to sit back and grab some popcorn....",
"very stupid people lack the ability and insight to realize they are stupid.",
"xD DAE drumpf?!",
"Hey, 2 million more people voted for Hillary Clinton. Sad that those were the best two candidates America could offer.",
"It has been my experience that high intelligence does not necessarily translate to good decision making.",
"I agree, it bothers me to think about how much of a pain in the ass removing the sticker from the paint must be",
"And best part - looks like it's from a 12-passenger van! ",
"This is the sort of overgeneralizations that get conservatives openly mocked. None of these show any sort of objectivity. And \"education\" does not equal intelligence which is what your articles suggests. There are plenty of brilliant people that point out the feeble nature in education. And to retort one of your article's statements, yes professors do actually make students more liberal and push their beliefs on them. The writer for your psychology today article is a great example of all of my points. \n\nHe has a phd but he can't make an objective comment or bring any sort of evidence, and I guarantee is education in psychology was a huge factor in his political beliefs.\n\nThere are dumb people that vote for both sides. \n\nThese 4 articles are a very poor display of \"time and time again\"",
"Lol",
"Here is one person flexing the power of his large group ",
"Didn't feel like the American way.\n\nMy great grandpa was a white dude fighting in WW2 during Pearl Harbor. From there the family started mixing so we have family who is mixed with Chinese, Filipino, Hispanic, etc. She has every right to be here just like us. \n\nBut I'm cool being an accessory vs someone who thinks someone's life and wellbeing is a joke. ",
"lol that's probably one of the best anti-Clinton comments on this post",
"Lol",
"Yeah, I like slapping the top sticker on the vehicles of Trump supporters.\n\n:)",
"Recommending an opinion peice does not speak well to the idea that you are educated and conservatives are not. There is plenty of books written by conservatives that they could recommend. ",
"no, both tribal.",
"should we remind you of the Bernie Sanders epidemic? ",
"Am I the only one sick of everyone claiming that you shouldn't be judged for your opinions? When the fuck did that become a thing?! Having your opinions challenged, and judged, and questioned, and argued against forces one to stand up for their opinion. And if you cannot make a valid, convincing argument for having that opinion, then you should doubt the validity of it, and in turn why you have that opinion.\n\nGTFO here with your \"don't judge me for my opinions, viewpoints, beliefs, etc\" I will respect and fight for your right to hold and voice whatever opinion or belief you so choose. I will not defend you from judgement, criticism, or having to defend those opinions/beliefs.",
"Lol",
"I don’t see the irony in this photo ",
"Lol",
"I had never actually seen a Nazi in person until last year.",
"You say that like Trump has the capacity to run for 7 more years. His dementia is going to stop him from running 1 whole term. ",
"Hahahaha",
"Do they ever want to argue? No. They just want to spout of their bull shit, and any argument you try to lay down is dismissed out of hand as a conspiracy or fake news of whatever buzz word of the day they can come up with. ",
"I never mentioned what political affiliation I was, nice projection though.",
"Yet America still has the 3rd highest corporate tax rate. Since your side loves comparing America to the rest of the world, how about we use their corporate tax rates as well?!",
"Knowing I upset Trump supporters who can't actually argue against the point is worth the loss. I bask in the downvotes and salty comments. \n\nThey hate me because I speak the truth.",
"It's very telling the kind of comments the trumpette is replying to. Bet this one doesn't get a response. ",
"honestly, that's what I thought, but after speaking to a lot of people it doesn't seem that way, it's probably overblown by subs like r/trumpgret",
"lol",
"You can always tell when Trump has recently said something that triggered the left by the anti-Trump posts in r/pics. lol. It's like clockwork with you idiots. \n\n#LIBERALS ON SUICIDE WATCH",
"lol, thanks",
"And I don't disagree with you. There's plenty of ways to display intelligence. I, like millions of other Americans, just don't like the condescending tone of liberals and Democrats. Tbh, the circlejerk on reddit can get nauseating after a while. ",
"You act like they have a choice. Most developed countries are dealing with China and the USA. They’d be fucked if they tried to cut off ties with either ",
"Uh yes the health care system is broken. Hes making it worse and doesnt have a plan for replacement. It affects millions of lives. ",
"You talk like you're riding around a high horse yet all I see is an idiot with two halves of a coconut.",
"See you! ",
"StuT_D people in large groups incoming.",
"What about our decision to save Europe from Nazi Germany? \n\nOr what about our decision to rebuild all of Western Europe?\n",
"r/ironicsigns maybe? I don’t want politics on this sub anymore ",
"The only shithole you need to worry about is the one on tDump's face.",
"If I know one thing about average Joes, it's that they have a lot of money tied up in a Dow Jones index fund.",
"Eight years, bitch\n\nhttps://imgur.com/wxNMr3Y",
"Oh wow, a sociopath. ",
"Are you a Russian robot?",
"Guy who sits next to me at work is Iranian. His parents can't visit him anymore.",
"Haha yeah this raging economy sure makes me rethink my decision.",
"Who?",
"You're an idiot",
"She was brought here as a child by her parents. It can take 11 years to become a citizen, with tons of paperwork and hoops to jump through. My mother's side had to shell out big bucks just to get copies of their paperwork.\n\nBefore Trump, we had DACA, which allowed those brought here as children to stay. (There's an interesting video of guys who got deported to Thailand... like 40 years after they got here. They had to go from modern living in the U.S. with jobs, to a country where they don't even speak the language) especially when most of those children are just wanting to be here to go to school, and be a working citizen. Now that Trump is president, ICE is doing sweeps to deport people who have lived here their whole life (look up the guy who is the sole caretaker to a disabled child, in Trumps America, he's getting deported despite the child needing him to function daily)\n\n\n\nEdit: came back to point out on the front page rn in pics is a dude who finally became a citizen... after ELEVEN YEARS of going through the processes.",
"Christ, even that analogy is dumb. ",
"Right, leave the task of voting entirely to the redditors that jerk off to the Huffington Post. How about no? ",
"Most call him stupid but he still won. ya'll literally had beyonce concerts and all of hollywood shilling for your side...and still lost lmfao. You even had the pope, the mexican cartels, twitter, facebook and most mainstream media helping clinton, yet he still won. if stupid trump and his stupid supporters won and ya'll lost, what does that make all of ya'll? hmmmmm",
"[insert group] thinks [insert group] thinks in groups. Lol at [insert group]\n\nBoth sides are ridiculous.",
"I never said what your political affiliation was either, just that you are stupid. Thanks for proving it, though ",
"So you equate intelligence by salary? ",
"Almost like younger generations aren't right leaning anymore. It's not a hive mind. It's just progression of society ",
"it's true, but I guess he placed his efforts in the right place",
"This is clearly what the majority of the users of /r/pics wants to see. Hence the thousands of upvotes and hundreds of comments. It's a user regulated board, what the majority of people want to see gets upvoted towards the top. That's how the entire site works. If you don't like content like this, down vote. If enough people agree, it'll go away. ",
"Oh fuck, now I can't remember. It was on the tip of my tongue. FuckFuckingFuckShit. ",
"Shit dude, take a five minute break from cnn and walk outside",
"I like how you took that guys comment and replaced it with your own. It's like you can't come up with your own idea.",
"I'm just going to unzip my pants and sort by controversial.",
"?",
"What are you trying to prove? The upward trend over the past year is about what it has been for the past ten years. Nothing has changed in any major way since March 2009. The market is close to linear.. \n\nEven if there had been a significant change, none of the tax plans that are recommended by the president have begun. Even if some Trump changes had gone into effect, do you really think that changes made by a president are what pushes the market, or do you believe that the ups and downs in general is controlled by \"the invisible hand of the market\" that are the result of supply and demand?\n\nAre you really trying to say that the reason that you believe that Trump is doing a good job is because of an upward trend in the market? We were talking about poor people voting for Trump; most don't have a stock option. Is that all you have? What is your point?",
"I don't see any",
"Gonna be waiting a while, dude. ",
"Flutter back to your safe space, little snowflake.",
"Holy fuckin' lol. Do you seriously think that image is relevant?",
"Flutter back to your safe space, little snowflake.",
"This is the issue with Democrats and Liberals, all you fucking see is gender and race and that's your issue. I'd have no problem voting for a female. If anything it's the Democrats that are sexist racists. Take a look at what percentage of black people voted for Obama. Also, I'm Middle Eastern and wasn't even born in the US. ",
"Sorry that you're not entitled to go to a $40,000 university??",
"Oh yeah, you're right, it's the fucking the Riddler. He's a fucking sociopath! He's a real dick, man. I'm glad Batman kicked his fucking ass. ",
"Annoying, maybe. But theres nothing hypocritical about it. We can live in a country where people have the right to believe whatever they want, and people also have the right to openly criticize all beliefs. Its just open discussion, and there isn't enough of it. Holding some ideas as sacred and beyond criticism is dangerous and rampant in this country. People are free to believe that Trump is good for this country, and there's nothing wrong with showing them how misguided this belief is.",
"Ya guys. Only like, super stable geniuses support trump and both sides are the same!!",
"I know a couple of die hard republicans who voted for Trump on behalf of party lines who’ve expressed their regret deeply. Believe it or not, voting solely in a defeatist manner with no consideration of the morals and intellect of who you’re technically supporting by doing so isn’t conducive to electing a rational, cultured or diplomatic individual ",
"It's almost like the current leadership has created the most divisive atmosphere in the last 45 years.",
"I'm fine with that. ",
"Lol, is that what you took from that statement? ",
"Sorry, let me rephrase:\n\nSHE WORKS AND PAYS FOR IT HERSELF BECAUSE SHES NOT ELLIGIBLE FOR LOANS LIKE I AM. I AM ALREADY DROWNING IN LOANS AND SHE'S WORKING HER ASS OFF TO BE HERE.",
"Lol that backfired",
"Trump is living in your head. Congrats.",
"And yet they call us the snowflakes? How the fuck does that work? ",
"...",
"Hillary got the majority vote, luckily the electoral college saved us from group idiocracy! \n\nWhere's the irony?",
"> He killed more civilians in air strikes than any other president to date.\n\nThat is a reasonable answer, and I agree that it was one of the few complaints I had against Obama's presidency as well. But then again, Trump had [killed more civilians *within 6 months of taking over the presidency*](http://www.newsweek.com/trump-has-already-killed-more-civilians-obama-us-fight-against-isis-653564) in his fight against ISIS. \n\nBefore the election I asked a republican friend what his #1 complaint against Obama was... He was quick to answer that Obama killed an American citizen with a drone strike. Guess what? [Trump did the same thing within his first month in office, and it was an 8 year old girl.](https://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obama-killed-a-16-year-old-american-in-yemen-trump-just-killed-his-8-year-old-sister/)\n\n>He traded top leaders in Al-Queda for a military deserter (traitor), which I'm sure hasn't harmed anyone at all.\n\nAgain, that's fair. \n\n>Unemployment went to highs, as well as food stamp usage.\n\nWe can debate *when* the effects of past presidencies end and the effects of new presidencies begin, but if you were at all politically aware during the GWB/Obama transition, you'd know that Obama didn't spark the problem. It took him a long time to work with the economy he was handed, but [the unemployment rate *went down* under Obama](https://www.factcheck.org/2016/01/obamas-numbers-january-2016-update/). \n\nFood stamp usage is a symptom of the recession. Not the cause. It's certainly *not* a good thing, but...\n\n[A report by the Food Research & Action Center, a hunger and nutrition advocacy group, applauded the 43 million figure in April as the lowest level of participants since October 2010. From April 2015 to April 2016, participation is down 1.9 million participants.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/21/donald-trump/trump-43-million-americans-food-stamps/)\n\n>He illegally wire-tapped citizens\n\nThank GWB for allowing this door to be opened. That said, this is a broad generalization that doesn't mean what a lot of Trump supporters have been told that it means.\n",
"so r/trumpgret ?",
"Take off school. Save money. Go back to school.\n\nThere's some advice pro bono ",
"How tone deaf are you?",
"Careers don't matter. He got the people that make this amount of money, ca. 200K. Objectivists, libertarians, independents.",
"So if you voted for neither, you're a genius?",
"I love this saying, because it's got at least two meanings.\n\nFirst, there is the meaning where one (or a small number of) stupid person(people) in a group of large people can cause the rest of the large group to join them in stupidity (mob mentality). \n\nThen there's just the large numbers of stupid people gathered together in a group to beware of in general. ",
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"You're in an anti-trump sub. Sorry dude, politics will always be here.'\n\nThey have a rule that says \n> We enforce a standard of common decency and civility here. Please be respectful to others. Personal attacks, bigotry, fighting words, otherwise inappropriate behavior or content, comments that insult or demean a specific user or group of users will be removed. Regular or egregious violations will result in a ban.\n\nBut are perfectly okay with discriminatory neckbeard niceguys like /u/Burgers_and_Fries416 posting \n\n> Trump is a retarded cunt\n> Anyone who disagrees is either 1) stupid beyond belief 2) evil at heart 3) being paid off by him somehow\n> It’s reached the part that there literally are no other options\n\nOddly enough, the only places you can go for non-political content are pro-trump places because every anti-trump place (this is a perfect example) will say \"no politics, no attacking, no whatever\" but always allow it when it's against Trump! Leftist outrage turned the world upside down.",
"> the mexican cartels... helping clinton, \n\nWat?\n\n> if stupid trump and his stupid supporters won and ya'll lost, what does that make all of ya'll? hmmmmm\n\nPolitics is not a battle or a game. There are no winners and losers. When you do something where everyone ends up worse off and it fuck over the environment for decades, possibly irreversibly, it doesn't matter who voted for who.\n\n",
"Well, at least it's just a picture, unlike most things that get upvoted on this subreddit.",
"It's quite literally their rallying cry\n\n> Trump: 'We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values'\n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/politics/trump-values-voters-summit/index.html",
"Bingo",
"Republicans and democrats both suck.",
"You know we have an electoral college for a reason",
"But what about the other 200 million people?",
"So, idk if you know this, but loan repayment tends to be contingent on you being registered in classes. Dropping or taking a break puts you into repayment. Also who are you to say someone should put their life on pause because you naively think it's that simple.",
">This doesn't take away from the fact that it was really stupid people and really old people that voted for Trump in the majority, and got him elected.\n\nPlease, show me the data that backs that up. \n\n",
"Yeah?",
"I'm thankfully not American.",
"The greatest evidence that our echo chambers are past the point of no return is the fact that ‘Trump is not a smart person.’ is debatable.",
"Are we done draining the swamp now?",
"Wow are you really that desperate for validation that you'll just say \"you're proving my point\" when I point out your post had nothing to do with what I said?\n\nYikes.\n\nI never invoked any group or claimed to have any authority I just pointed out the flaw in that line of thinking. \n\nBut you're so focused on seeming smart and aloof that you don't even realize how blatant it is that you're projecting.",
"How dare you fucking say that!",
"except that this subreddit is only about pictures, no need for discussion, I don’t understand why you’re crying so much, if you don’t like it, then leave, no ones stopping you, nor does anyone care. One less adult child to talk to.",
"Lol, OP had no sources on all but two points either. Onus is on the one making claims...",
"I don't mind if it was dumb, it was more clever than just about anything you've said so far, but then again that's not a high bar to clear.",
"Well, prior to the election results coming out they absolute were silent. Pretty much every poll, including exit polls, had her way up. Since then, however...",
"Or is it self awareness?",
"I don't understand how you concluded that they're dumb. ",
"The same way they believe Trump has nothing to do with anything yet is at the same time involved in everything.\n\nDouble standards and willful ignorance is hard to beat. ",
"You mean Reddit In general",
"And this part of the website is for discussion of pictures. r/politics, r/PoliticalHumor, r/The_Donald, r/LateStageCapitalism, these are for politics. Not the fucking photography subreddit.",
"Subreddit, workplace, Denny's bathroom.",
"Never underestimate the ability of Americans to support criminal invaders.",
"You probably don't even see the irony in your comment",
"What did the stock market do from 2009 to 2016? ",
"Must be why you understand 0 concepts. Projection liberals and Democrats only care about gender and race, hahahaahahahhahahahah, I don’t think I could laugh anymore, oh wait, I can! Ahhahahahahahhaahahah",
"I love George Carlin ",
"Accurate when applied alt-rightists and pop-feminists",
"Reeeeeeeeeee",
"Found the Trumptard",
"Studies like this are stupid. It's like saying Liberals are the smartest group of people because they have College Degrees even if they are in retarded shit like Gender Studies.",
"I know people who voted for him who are legit “oh, God, what have I done?” Then, they revert really fast to “but Hillary...”\n\nThere is definite regret there, but there is also satisfaction. It’s weird to see it occur simultaneously in people. ",
"Hillary bet billions on it, and apologized to her donors (not her voters lmao) when she lost. \n\nSo, there might not be winners and losers to you, but Hillary thinks there are!",
"The irony is this thread, and the people commenting in it",
"So if someone has a different opinion than you, then that means they're stupid?\n\nTypical Liberals...",
"Bad. They did it for selfish reasons. ",
"And I hate Obama, lets hate politicians together.",
"Lol because that's what I did, and your life isn't \"on pause.\" you aren't entitled to education. If you can't afford something, don't go into debt to get it. economics 101. Work hard, create a nest egg and save.\n\nIf you already took out loans then that's tough titties. You made a financial mistake and you have to live with it now.",
"he's gotta be a troll. no way a human being can be so naive",
"We just have to care more now that the president doesn't. ",
"In Australia's Same Sex Marriage survey, the so called silent majority insisted that they were speaking out for the repressed, the voiceless.\n\nToo bad that the survey came back 60-40 for SSM.",
"Same could be said about the other side ",
"Here we go with the fake news, you’re a moron at best. 5 thirty 8 has him around ~40% which is an average of all polls, quit knitpicking polls that feed your narrative, you only look like more of a dumbass.",
"this should be the r/politics slogan",
"You Liberals are so stupid. Trump didn’t even say that those countries were shitholes, it’s made up. LOOK UP YOUR FACTS AND FIND OUT THE TRUTH.",
"Ding, ding...ding :(",
"I thought I unsubscribed from r/politics? ",
"Knowing Trump would be an awful president has nothing to do with politics.",
"Username checks out?",
"No no no, don't look at the research, studies, and sources, look here! /s",
"Some people that voted for Trump didn't have much of a better option....like Clinton....come on.",
"How is this ironic?",
"Truth in advertising\n",
"I understand your sentiment, and as an American(California here) it makes me sad. I am sorry for our shit. Seriously.",
"What does this have to do with the election? Do you understand what an election is? ",
"You know, that because of his tax cuts, thousands of people are going to lose their jobs when sane republicans voted him in with hopes of greater job security. That’s unfortunate irony",
"might I suggest /r/Norway ? ",
"Okay.",
"Automod made the post 5 mins ago now if ur still looking to filter",
"Anal Panama?",
"Well, they voted for Trump. Kinda fits the profile of an idiot.",
"How. dare. you?",
"Yeah. I agree with you. That is why I commented in the first place. I'm sick of discussing politics on a place of photography. Ill admit I went a little overboard with the whole \"I wish I did vote for trump thing\" though. ",
"I like Trump's political decisions.",
"Nope.",
"Yeah but, other than those...",
"Must be fake news, huh?",
"So edgy bro ",
"Okay, fine. I get it. Some people like the Riddler. But I think a moment of silence for the man is a little excessive. ",
"You mean you don’t wanna inpeech him for saying bad words? Effing fascist! ",
"I like how neither sticker is even remotely placed level.\n",
"There's political beliefs and then there's being *objectively* wrong and stupid. There's a difference.\n\nIf you believe that certain tax rates will boost the economy, great. If you believe that global warming is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese, then you are wrong and stupid.",
"Nope....were all all jerkin off to our 401ks too much to care about what some college kid has to say about their feelings being hurt by Trump.",
"We're still on Obama's budget. Wait about two years and come back then.",
"That would be the only irony in this situation because this shit is not ironic. He says to be aware of stupid people in large groups, he’s a trump supporter. There is no twist here.",
"“Obama is embarrassing America on the world stage!” -Conservatives \n\nMeanwhile...",
"Joke is on OP",
"Thanks to the well documented [Dunning-Kruger effect](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect), your doubts probably mean you are considerably more intelligent than this person.",
"When did pics turn political ",
"Wait til the Russian brigades get here.",
"Hahaha yessss ",
"\"haha! Take this upvote Mr Redditor, I agree with the title because my candidate didn't win!\" \n\n\nLmao calm down with the inbox messages, I don't even live in your country, holy shit you are some salty people. ",
"That’s a pretty big group",
"Nah didn’t you know America is the only thing in the world? ",
"I guess you can have the lower sticker of anyone you don't like, such as Trump's predecessor. ",
"Oh, you didn't retort with something about Hillary's emails? I'm genuinely surprised. ",
"I call it \"Bold and Brash\" inb4 belongs in the trash",
"It would only be ironic if they had a Hillary Clinton sticker considering she's under investigation again and just happened to have a house fire that destroyed important documents...",
"Yep, I’m on your side dude. Read the bumper sticker on top, realize Hillary got more votes than Trump, read my post again. You with me now?",
"So which group are you apart of?",
"Yeah, the irony right? Considering majority of voters do not necessarily win the electoral college. In other words the sticker is perfectly correct. ",
"The electoral college is what decided the election, which is anything but a large group of stupid people. If anything, they're the group of people that keeps a large group of stupid people from making the mistakes for which we all suffer.",
"What he said^",
"Obamacare has done nothing but hurt most people I know. Not people who have free benefits of course. \n\nOk let me clarify “hurt”. I mean financially hurt. Obviously having health insurance is a good thing. Not being denied for preexisting conditions is a good thing. Contrary to popular belief you *can* have a system that solves these problems without a mandate.",
"If a joke Reddit post makes you wish you voted for Trump, you are the problem.",
"Lol he said a word I don't like?!? Burn him at the stake!!!",
"Kinda tough when I leave a comment slightly critical on r/the_donald and get 50 replies telling me I’m a liberal cuck and that I should kill myself along with a permanent ban",
"I only saw the first bumper sticker at first then I scrolled. That was pretty funny. ",
"Hey man, freedom to have your own beliefs means having enough freedom to choose something stupid to believe in. You are proof democracy works!",
"Yeah, if you add them all up together against one person",
"Was raw water elected President? Why did no one tell me?",
"I honestly think it's the internet. It was supposed to make everyone smarter but it just gave everyone a way to surround themselves with what they want to hear. Then you have shit like google recommending stuff that you are already predisposed to, and places like reddit where dissenting opinions sink to the bottom, etc.\n\nHumans weren't ready for the internet.",
"SEGA",
"Repealing Obama’s regulations accounts for most of it. Then comes the tax break and unleashing the coal and oil industries. ",
"Trump literally campaigned on the premise of the \"forgotten rural white American.\" \n\nAlso he's going to bring back the phrase \"Merry Christmas\".",
"Reeee no shut up an 80 year old Commie would’ve been so much better!",
"Yikes ",
"Fundamentalists always believe they're a prosecuted minority no matter how large their group gets. It's a core pillar of their belief system, no matter what type of fundamentalists they are.",
"The posts on this sub are always shit, 90% of them are political, progress pics or are pointless images with a \"heart wrenching\" back story ",
"So at this point you don't even trust Fox News?",
"Nope.",
"Sorry can't read your mind from here, I'm listening to The Wall right now and Pink Floyd preoccupying my attention.",
"You're not the only one, but in all fairness, there's often no real discussion. For example, I don't really care why /u/htruong is a trump supporter, he just spewed some vague bullshit and I downvoted him. 95% of the time, particularly with the prevalence of trolls and bots, it's not worth asking why on the internet. Unfortunately, I don't think this helps engage the few that can be saved from their own ignorance. But so it goes.",
"One ripple coin.",
"Maybe it's a threat?",
"Can’t wait for mueller to bring it all down. Manafort trial begins in May!",
"Judging off of dating sites Republicans won't be able to breed anymore. I see that women tend to skew towards anti stupidity. ",
"whooooosh",
"He was a mass murderer. Even if you don’t count the famines. ",
"I'll agree that this is a low-effort low blow post, but this:\n\n> Oddly enough, the only places you can go for non-political content are pro-trump places.\n\nWhich pro-trump place is boasting all of this apolitical content?",
"Lol \"unemployment rates went down under Obamacare\"\n\nDid you just skim over the part in the article where he had to double the national debt to get it there?",
"yes i support trump and my iq is actually 50000 and and a half and also my penis is three feet long",
"Oh look, *yet another* pic about politics, starring Trump. 🙄",
"DAE DRUMPF SUPPORTERS ARE STUPID???",
"lol",
"No one has ever found /r/pics anything but shitty. For a decade at this point. It has nothing to do with politics. ",
"Right? I wonder how many of those Sam's club former employees are loving these tax cuts.",
"It's more of people being annoyed that they get labeled to be part of something they're not. And no matter how hard they try to say something the other side refuses to listen and continues to label them. ",
"Well Americans do vastly outnumber everyone else in the U.S.",
"Were those voters voting their tribe when Obama got elected(twice)? ",
"> You know I didn't even vote for Trump I voted for Gary Johnson\n\nfucking LOL",
"I'm sorry but to me this looks shopped. The boarder of the sticker is off and who the hell puts a bumper sticker on their tailgate? Don't answer that. Dumb.",
"I agree with you. ",
"Jesus, we need a new reddit...",
"They've continued to be correct? They had her up because she was up. By 3 million votes. \n\n",
"I wouldnt call that irony, id say thats exactly what he/she was going for.\n\nAnd if it wasnt, then they are pretty stupid for sure",
"How are thousands going to lose their jobs? Jobs have been created because of his deals with big manufacturers. \n\nEdit: getting downvotes for engaging civilly. Keep it classy reddit. ",
"Dude this isn't about me not wanting to see other opinions. This is about wanting the r/pics subreddit to be about pictures. I don't even disagree with people hating on Trump. In a lot of cases, I think it is deserved. Im just kind of sick of the \"Trump sucks and we need to tell anyone and everyone!\" mentality. ",
"I reccomend David Mamets “why I am no longer a brain dead liberal.”. Think that’s what it’s called. Anyway, The guy was a voice and champion for the democrats, then he realized that conservatives had the better books. ",
"I see bullshit like this in my feed daily.",
"Pretty much ",
"The same as unicorns to leprechauns",
"Racism, sexism and xenophobia are not legitimate views. They are objectively bad and deserve to be treated as such.",
"#r/polpics",
"Oh Boy. You must be fun at parties. \n\nI think the Trillion dollar student debt in the U.S. is just people stupidly following what highschool... parents... teachers... society instills which is go to fucking college.\n\nLoans were explained as a necessary expense to acquire an education. Good on you for taking a break, but that's a YOU situation. The holier than thou tone I get from your post just lets me know that you don't care about people struggling and just want to be right and make people feel like shit for their life.\n\nBut hey, I'd rather be struggling and kind than be an asshole who gives shitty, oversimplified advice, about an issue that touches on citizenship bullshit, student loan bullshit, and minimum wage bullshit without being empathetic about the gravity of the current situation. But hey, thanks for the \"advice\" ✌",
"I don't think anyone finds fault with Trump voters who have since seen the error of their ways. It's human to make mistakes, but it's admirable to admit them.\n\nThose who still stand with him however, at this point, are nearing the point of no return (if not already well past it).",
"You just shattered a lot of engineering students dreams. Reality is supposed to do that. ",
"I looked at the data. They use college grads as a reference for intelligence. Anyone who's been within a 50 mile radius of a college campus can see the pussy hats students are wearing. They're literally equating the lesbian dance theory majors to the premed and engineering majors. ",
"I hear you on that one. Everyone gets themselves in a tizzy every time the man farts it's ridiculous!",
"My job just increased their hire on wage by $4/h and implemented tenure bonuses because of it. I think it depends upon who you work for.",
"Okay so explain how you saved to afford an education.\n",
"I almost sure this is a repost.",
"Everyone i don't like is russian!",
"I'm pretty sure the guy who owns it means it very unironically, because that's how he sees OP",
"Oh yeah I forgot that part of the Constitution that says government-subsidized healthcare is illegal.",
"Not judging people for their opinions is how we got here. My policy is to be respectful of all reasonable opinions, especially those I disagree with. When you cross the line to outright rejection of objective truth or...you know...this thinly veiled white nationalism stuff, seriously, go fuck yourself. All day and all night. Disdain do I give you and misfortune do I wish upon you.",
"https://i.imgur.com/Fg8NeIN.png",
"Oh you mean before and after pics of weight loss.",
"Panama C-Anal?",
"So does that make you a dumb capitalistic conservative right wing reddit posting idiot loser?",
"That's a generalisation if i've ever seen one.",
".. or the lack of. ",
"That’s all cuz Obama even tho he said the jobs weren’t coming back and the GDP would never hit 3%, you fucking racist!",
"If you're smart and you voted Trump you're an asshole. Not that that's even an insult to Trump voters, because they love being the asshole.",
"And in my wallet. I pay for his rent, food, security, hair dye, and his many many vacations. Not to mention his record number of drone strikes on civilians.",
"Man you people are delusional. ",
"And it’s what will get him re-elected too. That and the fact that the economy is doing great. \n\nEdit: to be clear I’m not saying HE is why the economy is doing great, just that he’s going to win if it is still doing great in 2020",
"I just created a new subreddit for political pictures:\n#r/polpics",
"Did you notice how the new tax plan is a huge windfall for corporations? \n\nDid you notice which party has most of the control of the federal government right now?\n\nE: Nice job making a divisive statement about democrats, and following it up with a platitude about how we’re all in this together.",
"Yup, definitely plan on setting this thread to “controversial” \n",
"That's not the point. We all know Haiti and other nations Trump mentioned have lots of problems. Critics aren't saying \"Uhh actually those countries are amazing\". What Trump said was that brown people shouldn't be coming to America, but white people (like from Norway) should - and that is a classic case of racism. ",
"> to be about pictures\n\nThis IS a picture....",
"Automod has now gotten around to marking the post so the how to is above if you come back to this thread. ",
"Libertarianism is a mental disorder.",
"Factual neutral statements get downvoted here, sir. Please rephrase as a dig on Trump and resubmit your comment. \n\n-Reddit PoPo",
"How many of them would double down? How many of them would ignore all of the terrible things he has been involved in to double down on those tax cuts? I'm willing to bet at least a third of those who voted for him originally would flip their vote or abstain entirely.\n\nOf the smaller percentage of Trump voters that actually have benefited from his policies, how many of them would choose greed over a stronger leader?",
"Know I'm not for Trump, but the way liberals and media mock him is no different than the way he mocks 'shit-hole countries.' If you all cannot stop bullying one another and set better examples the whole country is in trouble from all angles. He won the office not because of white movement, but because people are so sick of congress not getting along we were willing to chuck this dude into the office just to blow it all to hell versus establishing some new age de-monarchy with Bush-Clinton-Bush... no-no. ",
"Yeah hillary almost won",
"No he isn't, I don't live in the US.",
"The idea that immigrants take away jobs is absurd. The more people we have in our relatively free and open economy, the better off we are. Labor is a natural resource, and it is one we should want more of -- not less. There are millions of jobs that go unfilled in our country, and driving more people out just leads to stagnation.\n\nI am somewhat surprised that you openly admit to not giving a shit about other people. That is truly rare, even among Trump supporters. Lacking compassion really isn't an attractive character trait.",
"That's the fucking worst. But Hillary what? Seriously, what? I want somebody to fucking tell me what was so unusually terrible about Clinton. She was a regular fucking politician, except she has precisely dick for charisma. Yeah, it would've been depressing because she inspires exactly fucking nobody, but sometimes you need to man the fuck up and accept that something is gonna be a bit of a chore.",
"I think its totally on purpose and actually meant as a threat... Don't mess with us stupid people or we will vote him in again!",
"Wow. ",
"Judging people for their opinions is wrong as long as the person doesn’t act upon those opinions imo. As soon as they act you can criticize them whatever. But until then you’re he aggressor and someone who can’t just mind their own business. Makes you an ass imo.",
"Now now, don’t give the millennial a history lesson. The unelected bureaucrats at the EU know what’s best and that’s that!",
"Yeah, people thought Hillary could win...",
"> there's nothing wrong with showing them how misguided this belief is.\n\nThere's also nothing wrong with showing how misguided your belief is of their belief being misguided.",
"Here before the thread is locked :)",
"Hey, google the last time there was a budget passed in the US, you might be surprised.",
"There a lot of people who dislike Trump but will vote him back in as long as the economy is good, especially if the democrats try to nominate someone as unelectable as Hillary again.",
"Who else thought of trump before clicking on picture?\n",
"Wtf are you talking about? Come back when you get that big dildo out of your ass, you're clearly enjoying it way too much to have a conversation. ",
">Show me a cute cat or a mountain or something \n\nThat's what Earthporn is for :)",
"I just created a new subreddit for political pictures:\n#r/polpics",
"This post boils down to:\n\n\"You're stupid!\"\n\n\"...no, YOU'RE stupid!\"",
"Oh the Democrats....",
"Everyone has a right to their opinion, but they don’t have a right to freedom from the repercussions of that opinion. If you want to support a demagogue who openly supports fascists and racists, you should be prepared to deal with the backlash. Stand up for your opinions like a goddam adult if you believe in them and don’t be a coward when someone challenges them. If you openly profess your support for a party/leader, you’ve opened that can of worms yourself. ",
"What a shitty palindrome.",
"Actual holocaust victims would laugh at what you call a “nazi”",
"Yeah it’s stupid people in large groups. He says to beware of them. It’s not ironic. It would be ironic if he had a sticker that said \n\n“Truth and equality will prevail over vanity and bigotry”, and then had a MAGA bumper sticker. Read a dictionary, irony is the opposite of a coincidence!",
"Discussion? There is no discussion going on. ",
"How's the tax cut working out for ya? ",
"TIL thinking that people have the right to believe whatever they want means nothing can ever be criticized. \n\nIt’s become a meme at this point, but an understanding of classical liberalism would do you some good. ",
"Is Trump potentially more harmful than those things? Absolutely.",
"Nope, pretty sure it was the racism",
"Mmmm nope. Obama's budget ended in September. Try again.",
"Calling flyover states stupid lost you the election but you keep trying anyways. ",
"Why does this website have such an urge to mention unzipping their pants? Is this supposed to be funny after the millionth time?\n\nYour comment doesn't even make any sense. Where's the humor or fraction of effort?",
"Gen Z is more conservative than millennials. ",
"Oh the point of view...",
"I’d be happy to debate when there is an issue to debate. The fact that I support the president and you don’t does not mean we can’t have a civil conversation. Many times I’ve tried engaging it’s along the lines of Trump supporter = nazi/bigot/racist and there is no longer a discussion. ",
"yeah, the fucking liberals and the rest of the entire fucking world are living in an alternate universe.\n\nor wait..... if everyone else is in one world... and I am in another.... are *THEY* in the alternate world?\n\nhmmmm",
"But voting for another Clinton was soooo smart right?",
"In before they lock this post. ",
"Funny how every time there something political, you see all these people coming out and saying \"i'm not here for politics\" or \"why does everything have to be political?\". well, when its a trainwreck on fire, taking everyone down with it, you better believe there's going to be people talking about it, in more places than normal.",
"Technically she was here legally under DACA. Now that Trump is changing policies, she falls under illegal. \n\nEdit: however \"illegal\" or \"legal\" doesnt change the fact that she was brought as an infant and had no control over that. And i use those terms loosely because literally a little over 40 years ago, me dating my white boyfriend would be \"illegal\". ",
"Knowing I upset Democrat supporters who can't actually argue against the point is worth the loss. I bask in the downvotes and salty comments.\n\nThey hate me because I speak the truth.\n\n",
"Thank you for saying this.",
"I have to look at his fugly face in the headlines every day so there's that",
"Blame reddit. Their algorithms inflate anti-trump propaganda",
"goodbye r/pics. It was fun while it lasted. I hope you have a good life. ",
"Every single word you said is wrong.",
"This post appears every day just in a different form, at this point we can start considering labeling this a circlejerk. ",
"there's such a thing as a stupid opinion",
"If only you understood the true irony here...",
"Haha, you are damn right ",
"Reddits a fuckin shithole when it comes to anti trump circle jerking for like, no real world reason",
"There's an old saying. If you're young and your're not liberal, you don't have a heart. If you're old and you're not conservative, you don't have a brain.\n\nPolitical progression for individuals is almost always from liberal to conservative; not the other way around. \n\nWhen I say liberal and conservative, I don't necessarily mean democratic or republican.",
"You actually cant post pictures in r/politics only news stories from the approved whitelist ",
"Reddit kind of is a shitholes though.",
"I wouldn't say someone else's opinion is stupid. ",
"You’re entitled to your own opinion, you’re not entitled to your own facts. That’s why most people hate Trump. He doesn’t address the issues, he throws out whatever solutions appease the biases of his base, regardless of what the facts say on the matter. ",
"Ah yes, circular reasoning, how could I have been so stupid? You got me. ",
"Liberals on reddit never cease to amaze me",
"And I love how the left tries to take the moral high ground with fuckfaces like Dinero and Chandler and The View as the face of their plight. Leftist will never take the moral high ground as long as I'm alive because they're actual shiite.",
"This will be locked soon enough.",
"Now that's what I call bravery!",
"Generation Z is shaping up to be the most Conservative generation in the last century. I guess only so much Marxist indoctrination can be shoved down society’s throats before the pendulum swings the other way.",
"lol",
"Haha drumf bad am i a good person yet",
"Cool",
"I just want to say I fucking hate people who have such a huge emotional reaction to political discussion. Which means I'm also guilty of having strong emotions. Fuck man at least I'm willing to admit that I don't really know how this whole thing is supposed to work ",
"Trump would need two 9/11s to get reelected. ",
"I mean...he warned you...",
"Lmao where the fuck did you read that?",
"Because you're just a cunt if you go out of your way to only shit talk other people's opinions and call them ignorant. Posting a picture of someone's bumper and implying that trump is dumb or whatever brings no discussion or help to a situation. Bring me something worth discussion or debate or just fuck off ",
"Then don’t. ",
"Education =/= intelligence, some of the dumbest people I know are also the most educated. ",
"you're a shithole",
"Okay, not literally speaking. I wouldn't vote for Trump. I am tired of the mentality that ostracising Trump supporters are somehow going to help. Now don't get me wrong both sides do it. Maybe, just possibly its this attitude that further divides people and pushes them away rather then drawing support. Just maybe by calling all Trump supports dumb, you might cause some people to vote Trump. Just saying. ",
"> The upward trend over the past year is about what it has been for the past ten years. Nothing has changed in any major way since March 2009. The market is close to linear..\n\nThe average yearly rate of the Dow from 2009-end of 2016 was ~1400 pts/year. In 2017 it gained almost 6,000 points. The market would have to remain completely flat the next 3 years to keep on a linear trajectory. \n\n>do you really think that changes made by a president are what pushes the market \n\nWhen it comes to tax policy and particularly corporate tax policy, yes definitely. Yes those policies are ultimately determined by Congress but the president has a strong say in it and anymore everybody just sticks to the party lines of whoever is in charge.",
"Meh, ironic sure but saw this coming.",
"Got you? I didn't realize this was an argument, lol. It's pretty common knowledge that our President is an embarrassment.",
"What exactly is the point? I'm not going to argue with you, but a few drive-by shots does not constitute an argument. Maybe explain *why* you think that everyone who supports Trump is a dumbass ",
"Yep. What they don't know is more private sector jobs were created in 2016 than 2017. They watch Fox News and think the opposite.",
"> Just let them be.\n\nNo.\n\nOther people's personal and political beliefs have an effect on my life. Why would I just leave them be?",
"Well, it seems Trump likes the word “shithole” 0.- ugh \n\nThere’s irony here too if you look closely",
"But Hillary got more votes, making hers a larger group. Right?",
"So are you Chinese or Japanese? ",
"Best part is, the downvotes further prove my point.",
"Upvoted to the front page. Also this wouldn't even be allowed in politics, they don't allow picture submissions. It really is perfect right here.\n\nCry more you apolitical baby. If you want a legitimate reason to complain, point out that it's a repost.",
"Just so you're aware, none of these articles really point to anything as far as politically conservative people being less intelligent than those who are politically liberal or progressive.\n\nThe first study is more based upon people who are socially conservative, which ties more back to gender roles and racial conducts. This is very different than being politically conservative.\n\nThe second actually says right in the article that the jury is still out, as those who called themselves liberal actually didn't fall into the category of being liberal. When they were questioned on specific political opinions, many weren't really liberal. Ironic, no? The 'intelligent' ones don't really know their own political beliefs...\n\nThe third article really didn't seem to provide any info. Seemed more like someone wanting to further push the divide.\n\nThe last article has nothing to do with intelligence at all. It's referring to education. The two words are not interchangeable. It's also not shocking to me that Republicans have a base with a lower education level than Democrats due to agriculture. Most farmers are Republicans, you don't need a Master's to be a farmer.\n\nFacts matter, yo.\n\nAlso, yes, I agree. Fuck Trump. But more so fuck people who have the desire to further divide this country.\n\nNow back to our regularly scheduled silly or interesting pictures, please.",
"Trump lol am I right?",
"How about a [cute mountain cat](http://yellowscene.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Lion.jpg)",
"Wait, what? My labor is being stolen? Fuck. Why do I get a big fat paycheck a few times a month and basically free healthcare along with a few weeks of vacation time? I am so confused, and that's strange because I don't know if it was all that hardcore brainwashing in engineering school or the late nights working while I got my masters degree thay caused the confusion. Maybe it was all the self-honesty that has fucked me up so much? Guys, help! I need to find out who stole my labor. Was it my boss? Damn, that dick!",
"Yup. To “protect the minority of the opulent against the majority”. AKA “make sure rich people are the only ones who get to decide anything important.”",
"Sure, if you go by 4chan or some shit. ",
"Liberalism*",
"He's referring to liberals. And he's right.",
"So then filter it out. I don’t understand why you’re complaining. ",
"Amazing!",
"What's the effective tax rate of the U.S. vs other countries' effective tax rate - that's the question. We're in the top three across claimed and effective. Which, I would argue, is where we should be. We're the number one product on the market. We should cost more. And our citizens should benefit from that, like they did in those \"golden years\" many Trump voters incessantly reference. ",
"The real TIL is in the comments.",
"STOP CALLING US STUPID FOR MAKING RETARDED ARGUMENTS BASED ON RETARDED LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS WHY TRUMP WON!!!!!111111111111111111111111",
"> Not to mention his record number of drone strikes on civilians.\n\nObama still holds that one.",
"All the NEETs got imaginary 401ks when Trump decided the only useful metric for economic strength is shareholder value ",
"Lol you call yourself kind while throwing names at me. You seem very self aware.\n\nIt's a ME situation for not making a huge financial mistake? That's like running into traffic, getting hit by a car, and then turning around and saying I don't care that you got hurt because I was on the sidewalk.\n\nI give oversimplified advice??? I think you should be saying that to the turd who told you taking out student loans is great advice lol.\n\nFYI college didn't start costing so much until loans became a thing. Cross reference price of college and initiations on loaning practices.\n",
"Very insightful. ",
"Yep, just shows how childish and pathetic the left really is. They’ll downvote stuff they don’t like, but not try to debate it or actually explain to us why we’re supposedly “wrong”",
"He says without even the slightest hint of self awareness.",
"I work overseas even though I'm a US citizen. People hear my accent and assume I'm pro Trump, and automatically chastise me for having a mentally handicapped president. ",
"Your trivialization of this shows how little you actually know.",
"Username checks out.",
"Or ya know. Democrats blindly voting for hilldawg. ",
"Yeah, the republicans. So what? There weren't any tax *increases* for these fucking leeches under Obama? The republicans suck and the democrats are happy to let them. Socialism and true leftism is our only hope, my dude.",
"Some would argue that Reddit is a large group of stupid people! Hahaha",
"7 more years. =)",
"Basically the entire internet at this point. There is no hiding from the shitshow politics has become. ",
"A bogeyman is when you fear someone without justification (kind of like how Trump and his sycophants hate immigrants). It's rational fear when someone gives you plenty of reason to think that they mean you harm. If the \"modern Republicans\" want us to believe that they aren't racists, they should disavow and distance themselves from the hateful people among them.",
"🤷🏻♂️",
"u/ramiriskis ",
"I think you should be happy that you AREN’T that confident. You should keep your mind open, accept new evidence, and be willing to change your views when appropriate. When you think your opinion is infallible and any other opinion is wrong, that’s when, I think, you’ve got a problem.",
"I believe you fall into a category of citizenship called being a \"level-headed\" person that the internet has tried to deceive you into believing doesn't exist.\n\nThe majority of people that voice their opinions on the internet are the extremely biased minorities that *care* enough to voice their political opinions on the internet. What you are seeing is (often) the worst of each group.",
"Liberals...",
"Lots of bias here but that's okay. I guess we'll find out in the next election. ",
"Do you know what irony means? Because there isn't any in that post.",
"Fair enough.",
"Unemployment went to highs in the first months of his administration while we were reeling from the effects of a recession that occurred during the Bush administration. After that we saw steady declines in unemployment with MORE jobs created month to month in his last year than we’ve seen this year under Trump. Really the bullshit reality Obama haters live in is quite astounding. ",
"Oh, yeah your right. What was I thinking. Let people have their own political beliefs?!",
"“I got mine, fuck everyone else!”",
"This guy's most recent comment before this:\n\n> in r/ The_Donald\n\n> JohnScala1031 1 point 2 days ago\n\n> **End Jewish privilege. Time to stump these cuck Jews.**\n\nJesus King-of-Jews Christ. It was obvious you're a t_D idiot from the comment on Haiti but you're one of those next-level shitheads.",
"You are absolutely right. Take what has happened to our college campuses around the nation: Opposing views are kept out, shouted down, protested into silence, and in some cases met with violence. Some speakers are dis-invited, others are forced to cancel for security reasons. Students in the minority are afraid to have their voices heard. Whether it is the outright disdain and hatred from fellow classmates, or unfair treatment from their professors....they fear real consequences simply for daring to challenge the campus status quo of beliefs. What were once bastions of reasoned discourse and the free marketplace of ideas have become violently reactive echo chambers. All because people can not stand to be met with opposing views and have their own worldviews challenged.\n\ntl;dr You are absolutely fucking right.",
"Controversial section here I come",
"My dream scenario is that Trump is impeached, fails to be convicted, remains in the White House, and wins a second term.\n\n",
"BUT WHAT ABOUT HILLARY'S EMAILS?!!! \n\n/s",
"Well said. It's about all that can be done at this point..",
"MICHAEL!",
"O hai, Denny",
"Stop calling us stupid or we'll keep doing stupid things to spite you! That'll show the libtards we're not stupid!!!!1",
"At minimum, I think you have to be in the top 25% of smartest people to become president ",
"Politics would never be such a bad topic to explore if liberals weren't all insufferably ignorant cunts.",
"I've seen this stupid \"it's almost like _________\" comment in every political thread. Find a new way to sarcastically belittle people, this template is stale. ",
"/r/nocontextpics is so much better",
"Woah holy shit roasted! This guy is a straight savage! /s",
"Irony is lost on many this day and age, it's going the way of common sense.",
"Yeah fuck off",
"There's no need to qualify your statement by saying you had anything. It's just unfortunate that most people can't accept that just because they don't believe something doesn't make it stupid. We're entitled to disagree in things. ",
"i've seen people banned from this subreddit for talking about politics *cough in favor of trump cough* so I find it interesting this pic is allowed to be posted here. I mean they have such high standards, as they say. High class sub we're in, mind your manners boys",
"With all that hate and projection, there’s no point in having a conversation with you, I can already tell your opinion is going to stay the way it is, which is fine, but doesn’t make it fact. You believing that all liberals and Democrats believe in is gender and race is completely idiotic, people on the left fight for specifics just like any other platform out there. To name a few:\nUniversal healthcare\nHigher progressive taxes on the wealthy\nNot using the presidency to advance personal goals\nBetter/free education\nYou can start with these before your head explodes on someone showing you issues outside your incredibly small intelligence sphere.",
"Dementia lmao \n\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-medical-statement/trump-in-excellent-health-doctor-says-after-medical-exam-idUSKBN1F12T1\n\nHot off the presses, that narrative didn’t last long 😂",
"It’s much easier to point at the flaws we see in others, than to see the flaws in ourselves. I wonder if we will ever escape our echo chambers, or if we will build the walls higher and retreat further into the comforts of our like-minded herds",
"Mensa quality post right here.",
"Alright... I don't like Trump either, but politics has been a shit show for a long time.",
"A female? Like a female human? Like... a woman?",
"I get that r/pics is for pictures. But this doesn't seem like the content that would be on here. Aren't the photographic skills of the users along with the nature of the earth supposed to be the focus on display? Not politics? ",
"The fact you think this is ironic is ironic. Liberals think there are more than 2 genders. You have no right to call conservatives stupid.",
"I just upvote these to see trump kids get triggered in the comments. Its usually more amusing than the post itself. ",
"Sort by controversial for the real fun",
"No no no the ironic thing is that you think the same about Trump supporters and they think the same about you ",
"Lol. I'm not even American and even I know there's no way he's getting re-elected. He's at staggeringly low approval ratings and with the way he acts he's going to stay there. ",
"Who said this is political? A bumper sticker says one thing... another bumper sticker, ON THE SAME VEHICLE, both validates the first and indicts the owner. \n\nFairly glistens with comic irony, regardless of the politics.... ",
"It's as simple as changing your voter registration. Feel free to register with whatever party you wish.",
"You seem pretty triggered as well bud. The irony.",
"aka\n\n\"Only people who disagree with me can be stupid.\"\n\n - A stupid person",
"You just proved a lot of conservatives point. Just because someone is really intelligent doesn’t mean they have any common sense. ",
"Same brother, same ",
"This in reference to the Boston bombing dox incident?",
"Do you know what the fuck a nazi is? if you think our president is a nazi i suggest some schooling and research",
"Oh god. So much cringe. ",
"Yeah, now to spice it up and find some mods.",
"You forgot the near-complete anonymity, pretty easy to be an asshole with no consequences.",
"And I'm sure some Nazi picture or some shit would be just as relevant to the sub? wouldn't it. ",
"Libertarianism*",
"[A mountain](http://innoculous.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Mount-Trumpmore-720.jpg)",
"https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-medical-statement/trump-in-excellent-health-doctor-says-after-medical-exam-idUSKBN1F12T1\n\nWhat he (arguably the best Doctor in the country) said. 2 scoops, 2 genders, 2 terms!",
"Theres nothing ironic about this photo, a large group of ill informed people voted together against what was right to make something happen. No irony",
"/r/SelfAwarewolves ",
"It’s funny because Americans are dumb af",
"Same. The amount of republitard tears itt is amazing.\n\nEdit: lmao they downvoted the hell out of this comment instead of the rest of you guys",
"Not at all. Just laughing at how easy and predictable you guys are. Also amazed I haven't been down voted to hell yet. ",
"Yup",
"Know what would fix that? Taxing the rich appropriately. Never mind that republicans don’t give two shits about the debt when it’s their guy. See Bush’s wars, the perscription drug plan, and Trump’s ridiculous tax plan. ",
"or maybe it is simply pointing out how stupid it is to be that confidant. ",
"Hahaha. You think the tax cuts are for the average American? Get your head out of your ass.",
"repost. Repost. REPOST",
"Yeah, none of my republican friends have ever made me feel like shit for existing. My liberal friends, who all grew up with MUCH more than me, are constantly lecturing me about privilege and social issues. They don’t realize that as long as the economy is good and money is flowing, no one will give a shit about social issues in the polling booth.",
"tHAts raacIST",
"When the economy was skyrocketing while Obama was still President, was that because he was repealing his own regulations?",
"/r/nocontextpics is what i use and recommend ",
"We are the number one product? We should cost more? What the hell does that mean.\n\nIf we are number one producers then we should get tax breaks purely off of the economics of exports vs imports.",
"Until you remember that the US is comprised of more than just New York, Florida, Pennsylvania, and California. ",
"GOT EMMMMMM! DONT FORGET HES A RAYYYCISSSSSS!",
"Came here for the comments. Love me some comments. ",
"It's not ironic if it's true...",
"Exactly this. There’s no longer an intelligent argument. Judging before one even hears the argument is not conducive to any society. ",
"You’re right. So they say if I don’t buy this government subsidized healthcare I have to pay a “tax” penalty. So instead I have to purchase insurance...... which is forcing me into engage I commerce.... ",
"Is there anything wrong with showing you how misguided your belief that ours is misguided is? ",
"Love him. ",
"> I mean does anyone really think Haiti isn’t a shit hole?\n\nNo, the point isn't that Haiti isn't a place with a lot of problems. The fact is that Trump and other people think that makes racism against Haitians defensible. It would be like discriminating against all Kansans and refusing to let them move to your state because they have an abysmal economy and can't even fund their schools.",
"I believe the word you're looking for is \"impeach\". ",
"Dernal blumpf is finished",
"Someone should recreate the ricola commercials, \"Reeeeeeeeeposteeeeeeeer\" ",
"Can I immigrate outta here\n\nEdit: emigrate.",
"Lol ok",
"Count up how many people have died thanks to US presidents. Or does it not count if they're brown?",
"Lol why are you so sure he’ll be re-elected as if there won’t be other people running? A lot of people who voted for him simply did because they didn’t want Hilary to win not because they actually cared for him or his views. ",
"Get back to your safe space bud. ",
"> Oddly enough, the only places you can go for non-political content are pro-trump places.\n\nAre you retarded? The ONLY places you can go for non-political content are pro-trump places? What the fuck haha.",
"Opinions don't exist in a vacuum, though. What is the point of an opinion that can't affect anything?",
"Pro-trump is a bad description, I should say places that are upfront about not giving a fuck if you care about Hillary/Trump and point out how stupid people are on either side.\n\nLike /r/ComedyCemetery/ or /r/PewdiepieSubmissions . However, people label those places as \"pro-trump\" so quickly that I just jumped on the wagon! ",
"The only thing they didn't have was russia",
"Just jump in the middle and be the biscuit. ",
"Also applies to Reddit 99% of the time, all the time. ",
"If you want to have a real conversation about the economy, fine. But \"unleashing\" the coal and oil industries? Give me a break. Coal is still in decline (thank god considering it's more expensive than wind or solar) and oil production peaked under Obama. I know it feels like Trump fixed the economy by destroying those darn regulations, but the facts just don't back it up. That being said, I'm sure you can hit me with substantive, factual discussion in response. ",
":) please back up those edges might kill ",
"Back at ya",
"Most humans*",
"Proof?",
"Man you should clean your vag out dude, sounds like someone sprinkled some salt up there. ",
"The attempts to constantly \"get one in\" on the other side tells more about you than them",
"Who’s life? Obama didn’t stop bombing brown people in the Middle East. Democrats haven’t stopped victimizing blacks and minorities. ",
"\"filing for citizenship\" is not as easy as signing up for a newspaper",
"ITT: Triggered",
"She wasn't charismatic, she was a woman, so she was an easy target for bullshit that sticks in the mind of people pre-disposed to find a reason to dislike the other team.",
"i dont know if your aware, but trump is a bonafide STABLE.GENIUS. ",
"What if my bumper isn't metal?",
"Ok. No one I know has been hurt by Obamacare, but *everyone* I know could use Single Payer.",
"Winning doesn’t make him intelligent. It’s a reflection of the sad state our population has reached where everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want, regardless of what is true. ",
"Lmfao I was waiting for someone to say it. Jesus even when they leave their burrow they can't seem to act like a regular person.\n\" I hate trump as much as the next guy, but DAE hate content that talks about him! So unoriginal!\" \nBut sure bring the Hilary pictures though!!\nDelusional af man",
"impeach*",
"Literally no different than Obama dawg",
"I’m doing my leftist impression man, jeeze. Gotta sell it with the public school education grammar. ",
"Looks like salt is back on then menu boys! Get outta this thread while the going good",
">Forbes\n\nYeah it's by a \"contributor.\" Almost anyone can be one. And it isn't well sourced.",
"The “silent majority” are the millions of centrist votes Obama motivated in 2008 and 2012, and Hillary lost in 2016, either to Trump, or to apathetic non-voting. \n\n",
"The Twilight Zone where up is down",
"Another t_D idiot spotted!\n\nI'm at 2 so far but only through replies to the \"welcome bag\" comment...",
"trump supporter, don't even want to scroll further than this lol",
"Thanks Obama. ",
"Yup. I have a strong moral standard of giving empathy to those who deserve it. YOU do not fall under that list. I dont preach acceptance, sure im liberal but im just hoping Trump continues to bring the filth out of the woodworks.\n\nAnd Idk if you can grasp this concept but I'll try to keep it simple: your life is not identical to the next persons so YOUR fix is not a one size fits all \"solution\" although its pretentious because your concept you've been preaching basically breaks down into:\n\nPoor people dont deserve an education because they cant afford it; and theyre stupid for trying to work for something like an education. \n\n\nWhich basically, makes you kind of an asshole.\n\nAlso, yes loans played a big part of why college prices went up but you expect people to just suck it up?",
"You people are ridiculous. There’s a difference between differing political opinions, and being a part of a cult of personality. The latter is objectively stupid.",
"What you just listed was an opinion. You did not list any facts yourself. What you just said can be applied to any political candidate, you do realize that right? ",
"This thread is so fucking laughable 😂 fuckin children level insults ",
"Really? She was a murdering scum bag who screams women’s rights, then threatened, ridiculed real victims of assault. She stole millions from the Haitian relief funds, she was obama made over. She stole, cheated the democrat nomination from Bernie, I could keep going but it all boils down to one thing, and you named it, she is a politician",
"Studies do substantiate this generalization, though.",
"Your comment is a reply, to a reply, to a reply of that data.",
"Go stros!",
"\"But Hittlary won the popular vote!\" Yup, that is why Electoral College was put in place, so stupid people in large groups could be kept in check. Boom.",
"This comment was a good start.",
"Trumps a good president get over it snowflake ",
"wow already name calling??\n\nYour discussion points are shallow and you're not doing really well",
"If you aren't aware of the innumerable dumbass things trump has done and the arguments against them by now, you're basically living under a rock. There's no point continuing to discuss things with people who have no intention of listening or arguing in good faith.",
"Considering Trump [can't even walk normal distances](http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-golf-cart-g7-sicily-2017-5) I'm rather highly skeptical.",
"[The DNC paid a group a million dollars to astroturf Reddit and Facebook.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/hillary-pac-spends-dollar1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook)\n\n[In the leaked emails they talked about the Super PAC astroturfing.](https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351)\n\nI'm not sure if they're still active, but I suspect they are the creators of most of the anti-Trump subreddits. If they are still active, I have no doubt they're the ones causing the extremely high number of anti-Trump posts. I don't like Trump, but I don't want to hear about every little thing he does.\n\nPersonally, it feels unusual for Reddit to be so obsessed with the guy for such a long period of time. Most of the time, Reddit hyper focuses on one issue, then shifts onto the next. Trump seems to be the only one that has had consistent attention for over a year now. That's a pretty long time compared to our last controversy (Logan Paul), who lasted less than a week.",
"Try /r/the_donald. They don't know shit about politics over there.",
"Every. Time.",
"No u",
"That's why I said it's odd. I know it sounds insane, but that's the insanity of butthurt democrats in 2018. They refuse to participate anywhere that doesn't explicitly enforce what they think, so only places that are pro-trump ban (or widely ignore) political content overall.\n\nI'm willing to accept anything contrary if you have anything? But it sounds like you just wanna rage. Carry on kiddo, better luck next time.",
"DAE TINK REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCANTS R ALL DA SAME?\n-Idiots",
"Can I ask why you love him? Not trying to be antagonistic just curious",
"And the last part of your paragraph is why trump won. Nobody likes him, but our country is doing great and getting better. ",
"Lol looks like a shared family car xD",
">people WANT to see this political shit\n\nIf \"The People\" didn't want to see it, wouldn't it be downvoted? Or would you imply that there's some sort of conspiracy amongst mods of r/pics to elevate \"Anti-Trump propaganda\"?\n\nAssuming there is no grand conspiracy and Reddit users do actually upvote this content, or downvote when they don't want to see this type of content, then it stands to reason the filter is there to accommodate a disgruntled *minority population* of r/pics.\n\nIf that were the case, it would seem you're just upset about what most other people like. Maybe you should try to be less like that. Ooooorrrr use that filter that was actually made for you to remove this from your view. Or hey, fuck it, don't do that and keep complaining about it, *if that's what you enjoy.*",
"> the only places you can go for non-political content are pro-trump places.\n\nThat's not how it works.\n\nOutside the big default subreddits and outside of political subreddits it is usually fine. Some subreddits have explicit \"no politics\" rules as well.",
"People get banned for speaking favorably about the president all the time. Reddit is well known for it. The only reason /r/The_Donald is not banned is because it it became so large and popular with lots of unique pageviews and ad revenue generated from it. ",
"You can't spell politics without r/pics .",
"You're such a healthy person.",
"Nazi pictures can be really fascinating, sure. The picture of Allied troops relaxing in Hitler's overtaken mansion is glorious.",
"It's funny, because ",
"No he's not. And no, he shouldn't have. What kind of America do you envision where people are ratting each other out to the government? Doesn't really sound like the nice, free democracy everyone keeps clamoring about...",
"It’s almost as if you people like to call each other names all day.",
"You sweet summer child.",
"HEY FUCK YOU MAN TRUMP IS LITERALLY THE SECOND COMING OF HITLER. LITERALLY DID YOU HEAR ABOUT HOW HE MAYBE SAID A SHITHOLE COUNTRY WAS A SHITHOLE? SURE, THEY LITERALLY EAT SMALL PIES MADE OF DIRT AND SHIT IN THE STREET, BUT THEY ARE SO STRONG AND BRAVE AND WE WOULD ALL LOVE TO LIVE THERE WITH THEM RIGHT GUYS",
"I think divisive is the key word here, for me at least.",
"Is it possible to do it from mobile? I just get tired of politics being everywhere.",
"Ah so your logic is \"I got mine, so fuck everyone else\"",
"Omg like totally ",
"Porque no los dos ",
"He isn’t fixing the economy. He’s riding an economy that performed equally well as the previous year. In fact the economy created more jobs month to month under Obama last year and the markets increased at a higher percentage. ",
"Nazis are bad.",
"This is the part I find most amusing. According to reddit Trump is basically retarded yet he absolutely destroyed Clinton at an extremely complex game. So either he is actually really smart or she is more retarded than he is.",
"*looks at the new jobs, higher stock market, and arrests of gangs*\n\nYeah, ok. ",
"Just stop.\n",
"Prove how. ",
"Ah yes, another post about how \"my side/belief is right, and everyone else's is stupid\"\n\nTop quality post here, top quality.",
"Because both sides do the same thing but he his unable to realize that his side does it.",
"I've made the same comment since the first time this was posted. This is like the 15th time I've had to say this. *cough cough clears throat* I don't see any irony here",
"He's Lie-otian.\n\nIs that a thing? Is there something there? I kinda feel like I'm reaching with that one.",
"If true then really the internet is just a conduit for the real problem: humans are flawed and will consistently act selfishly, because every person is merely a consciousness existing within their own perception of the world, providing information which intrinsically leads to selfish tendencies.",
"Good decision for who? The greater good, or themselves? Intelligence and greed are not mutually exclusive. Trump can be a bad decision for most, but an awesome decision for intelligent wealthy people.",
"Since I can tell you have no economic savvy I'll let you in on a secret. When a company doesn't have enough profit margin, do they yell at their customers saying \"BUY MORE OF OUR STUFF, WE NEED MORE REVENUE\" with a gun to their head? No they look inward and cut spending.",
"Earned. He earned his, the country is doing great, if you don’t have “yours” go out and get one of the high paying trade jobs that have boomed in the last year. ",
"Stock market =/= the Broader economy. \n\n\n\n",
"and as we all know, land size is the most important factor in a representative democracy",
"popular vote..",
"Inherited*",
"Consider that all people that live in the US don't just \"do it for a living\", we all live it and are ultimately responsible for it. If you live outside the US, then I'm sorry you have to see this and understand your frustration. But if you live inside the US and you are tuning out then I have no respect for you. People like that are the reason the system isn't working in the first place",
"She supported the Iraq war and laughed about the American led killing of a world leader that she helped orchestrate. ",
"I’m sorry I hurt your feelings? Safe spaces are not needed for the free and the brave buddy. ",
"It takes money and bear in mind, she's only 20, so doing that kind of paperwork as a teen is an unrealistic expectation. And most of the time, DACA recipient's parents, don't speak english and lack the know how or funds to even get the ball rolling.",
"If they were doing it to cover up evidence, it'd make way more sense not to it now, after being investigated who knows how many times, and to do it discretely.",
"Congrats you actually believe fake news!",
"They're all like this. We are trying to find a cure but only to minimal success thus far. ",
"Wasn't it Obama who had the 2% average increase in gdp? And had the lowest amount of new jobs added as a president(compared to precious presidents, haven't seen ull data for trump)?\n\nAnd then trump now has a consistent 4% increase in gdp and unemployment for minorities is at it's lowest point in a long time, aswell as unemployment in general.\n\nBut he's killing people because of net neutrality btw",
">Find a new way to sarcastically belittle people\n\nI was pointing out the cause, as the person I replied to was complaining about the results.\n\nMy comment had zero to do with making any kind of value judgement on who I replied to.\n\nBut as you say, I've seen stupid assumptions on Reddit a lot.",
"I don't understand. What's /r/pics for then?",
"It was much better back when they were silent. I was much happier to just assume that people were decent instead of learning the truth through social media.",
"Legitimate question (serious tag): What do you think of Trump thinking you and your family should probably go back to your origin country since you are not white?",
"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the shithole.",
"True for every state?",
"I won't be the one to say they're ALL dumb but the ones I know (which is many, being from rural Pennsylvania) are either a) conservative Christians who got suckered into supporting a man who represents everything they should be against, or b) poor people who got suckered into supporting a man who is working against their own self-interest. Both are dumbasses. I will gladly listen and respect any legitimate argument one might have for supporting Donald Trump but I gotta be honest, I have yet to actually hear one.\n\nEdit; or c) people who got suckered into believing all the empty promises of things he would never be capable of achieving.. ie bring back coal, build The Wall, seamlessly replace the ACA without costing anyone their well-being, bringing manufacturing back into the country.. and/or suckered into outrage over fake issues like the refugee and illegal immigration \"crisis\".",
"OP, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but the stupid group in this case is obviously Obama (and potentially, Hillary) voters. ",
"BUT HILLARY BUT HILLARY BUT HILLARY",
"Eh, I have to think about him every day. Really no escaping it anywhere. Although, to be fair, I'm not one to just shy away from a problem. ",
"It's amazing. The economy is growing at its fastest pace in decades, the stock market is on fire because stifling regulations have been lifted, companies are hiring again, companies are repatriating money, consumer confidence is up, companies are giving out RAISES and BONUSES, unemployment is low, etc. However, Trump called Haiti a shithole.....oh no! Newsflash.....it IS a shithole. That's why people leave. Eventually, things will get better to the point where the media can't hide the fact that the country is doing better than it has in a long time economically. Do I like Trumps rhetoric? Nope. He says stupid shit, all the time, and I wish he would stop. But I take it with a grain of salt. With that being said, I will take stupid shit with good results, over smooth talking and stagnation any day. ",
"Well I think you’re all idiots, and I can prove it mathematically \n\n*insert smug picture of Rick* \n\n",
"Vandaliberalism",
"What website? ",
"I'm confused as to what this has to do with the post",
"Really? He’s got low approval ratings? Hillary was at 98% chance of winning by the same polls that show his approval rating. ",
"Are you also up in arms about having to insure your car? ",
"r/pics has been an r/politcs dumping ground for years.",
"Clever.",
"Again, how is this negative when people are getting tax cuts? ",
"No that's total voted, she had most votes overall. He won only because of the electorial, a number that hasn't changed since the early 1900s' iirc.",
"Nothing weakens an idea like this. A perfectly logical statement about everyone having their ideas, followed by saying an idea is wrong.\n\nEdit: An idea is never wrong. Ideas never die. Actions can be wrong. And words can be wrong. And I never said that one idea was better than the other, but thanks for calling me an idiot ;)",
"I like Donald Trump\n\nHow many downvotes can I get?",
"Half expected it to have a Bernie bumber sticker...",
"Ok, what's the rate of unicorns to leprechauns? Is it anything like the exchange rate of Stanley Nickels to Schrute Bucks?",
"Dumb, biased, hateful reddit. ",
"That's not what the polls were recording, bud. ",
"Better hurry before before earth is ruined by the likes of Trump and the global warming hoax crowd. Amirite?",
"voat.co",
"I'm gay",
"Someones been reading too many forced front page reddit posts if you think coal encompasses all forms of work in the united states. You've been duped.",
"He says something stupid pretty much every day so your comment makes no sense.",
"Believe me, I’m in Gen Z and literally no one I know who is also in Gen Z is even in the slightest way conservative. If anything, most of them lean towards liberal ",
"Having trump as president is a little bit tiring but that’s just me ",
"You said it. I just wanna see interesting stuff.",
"Oh the bigotry...",
"The ironing is delicious.",
"What’s up with anti-intellectual autofellators who pretend that every conceivable position is equally defensible? Whether you like it or not, some positions are *objectively* worse than others, being a trump supporter is one of them. You are an idiot if you support Trump. Just like you’re an idiot if you believe the earth is flat or the moon is made of cheese. And you’re not some edgy genius for being a contrarian, just a smug, intellectually dishonest jackass.",
"Oh the irony...",
"Good bot",
"You are part of the problem. ",
"This has been true of every authoritarian regime for the last hundred years or so.\n\n\"We are the master race but we are in danger of being exterminated!\"\n",
"Then you should know that you truly are deplorable. If after everything he’s done, you still support him, you are the racist, bigoted asshole that he is. Please know that and own it and vote for him in 2020. ",
"#Pics can't be posted in r/politics.\n\nThat sub requires all submissions to be *links to news articles* (with titles copied verbatim from the headlines).\n\nIt would be nice if there was a separate sub but a filter is plenty. So go on, filter it and quit whining, snowflake.",
"This comment is underrated ",
"It’s hard to not be decisive when your political leader openly calls other countries shitholes. ",
"Please link me a poll from a swing state whose election night results exceeded the margin of error.",
"I don't remember total count being projected. Correct me if I'm wrong.",
"Exactly. ",
"Here before the lock",
"That implies that only polls which didn't account for the electoral college predicted her win. Which is obviously not the case.",
"Don't read the comments in here. Just don't. No matter which side you're on, you'll end up pissed off. What a cesspool.",
"Lol said the guy who called everyone who opposes his views insufferable cunts. Go blow yourself",
"Trump has publicly touted many of the things in this list. How about this -- show me multiple reliable sources that anything in this list is not true and I'll venmo you $100",
"The fact that this is a sub that should have nothing to do with politics yet the number one post on it is 100% political just goes to show how far gone this community really is.",
"Fair enough. Let me rephrase that. A picture of modern neo-nazism, posted with the intent to support Nazism. ",
"Easy there. Apparently anywhere that isn't r/politics tends to be the Donald people. Be careful or they'll come with their pseudo logic and no sources.",
"Why do you assume that they (not he) are talking about politics? ",
"OP doesn’t understand the definition of irony",
":,(",
"http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/11/poll-millenials-prefer-socialism-over-capitalism/\n\nhttps://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/26876-americans-under-30-prefer-socialism",
"\"Believe me, I have an anecdote.\"",
"[\"Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival (DACA) recipients generally do not have a path to permanent resident status (green card)\"](https://citizenpath.com/daca-green-card-advance-parole/) ",
"4) smarter than you.",
"you would have been a witch hunter in the middle ages.",
"Since the dawn of reddit redditors have complained that reddit is just now going to shit ",
"Yes hmmmmmmmmmm",
"Whataboutism.",
"Here comes the typical trump kid comment that brags about how the economy is *still* doing well (all thanks to Obama’s policies)\n\nI bet the “evidence” to back up your statement would be *”look at dur stouck markeht!”* because you don’t have a single idea of how simple economics work. ",
"Thanks! I run about 15 miles a week",
"identity politics have ruined political discourse. nobody wants to actually talk about complex aspects of various issues, they just want to mark a checkbox: NAZI or NOT NAZI. then proceed to either virtue signal, or point fingers and scream",
"Who did she murder? If you dear say the embassy workers then I hope. you blame each and every republican for cutting budgets to fund security for embassys during that time. Let's see if you can provide sources for all those claims from independent verified and trusted source not Fox news and info wars",
"real*? or are you doing that thing where you use internet troll shit because real interaction is hard?",
"Well get used to it, 7 more years MAGA ",
"It's a Japanese made truck too.",
"Why is it whenever people talk about Obama they go on about how great he was for jobs, but then I flip to reddit and everyone is underemployed at a minimum wage job because the economy sucks?",
"You ppl are the dumb ones. Trump may come off as a baffoon, but he is correcting many mistakes of past administrations and has the country and its citizens best interests at heart. You'll never believe me or agree with me now, but I trust that in time you will.",
"What's the ratio of ETH/Soros Bucks? Is it going to Coinbase?",
"I made a mistake of backing Trump in this thread. No shot here ",
"They like him because he's relatable. He's basically a frat bro running this country into the ground. I mean he uses big presidential words like shithole and his favorite movie is bloodsport.",
"I don't care if Rome is falling, give me my bread and circuses!",
"Technically in each side, the other side is pure evil. Just gotta step in their shoes I guess and understand that we all have differences and that it doesn't matter, what matters is the well being of the country, so a pseudo civil war is not really going to solve anything\n",
"Same here.. They are so defensive ",
"Keep the bud thing going.",
"We’re headed for a civil war. And personally I can’t wait",
"Oooh, someone's triggered.",
"So all the growth up until September was Obama's. Gotcha.",
"/r/pics is so mad at Trump right now.",
"Because dumbass hicks deserve more of a vote than the educated cities. ",
"I’m from Florida, Salvadoran/Palestinian. \nVoting for Trump in 2020!",
"It’s almost like people have strong feelings about politics, since political affiliation is bound to personal identity and values maybe? ",
"There are probably only 10% of all subreddits on this site that have ever even contained a political comment. Do you know how many different subreddits there are? Your statement is completely laughable. Think before you type next time, buckaroo.",
"Source or shut the fuck up",
"happy cake day",
"That's what the comment is referring to, isn't it? OP?",
"http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/11/poll-millenials-prefer-socialism-over-capitalism/\n\nThe title is a misnomer, the survey is of “people under 30”",
"Republicans aren't nazis dumbass",
"It isn’t the first time this pic has shown up here. It was also soon picked up by the idiots over at r/T_D and photoshopped over with the Hillary campaign sticker.",
"Not really irony at all... Seems like the major meme about Republicans is that it's the ignorant rich people, and we elected a rich guy to run the country. How are the people who run the world and are powerful businessmen stupid? I just have this disconnect in the logic, the smartest people who run the planet are just stupid. You realize how childish it sounds? I'm fine with political discussion, but calling Republicans and Trump stupid is just weirdly absurd, and in all honesty probably why Democrats lose elections, because they're just acting like children. Sorry if you got jilted by the government and are upset that the rich just keep getting richer and you're still struggling, but whining about how stupid the president is isn't getting you anywhere in life, you're just wasting your time and acting like a teenage girl.",
" I can b ur mod. c:",
"That would get far more downvotes than upvotes. Your point is?",
"i know, hillary tried tho",
"lol",
"The current leader, the current media, and the last administration more likely. But hey “ muh trump”!!",
">Really old and really stupid. \n\nThey don't show that. ",
"Barry Soetoro and Paul Krugman told us many times, “the jobs aren’t coming back,” and that GDP growth would NEVER again hit 3%. Crediting the record high stock index and consumer confidence to anyone other than President Trump is world class mental gymnastics. I’m sure sweeping tax cuts for individuals and corporations along with dismantling various regulations and gutting useless bureaucracies like the EPA had nothing to do with it though, amirite?!?",
"Magnets can be nasty on your paint, especially when left for a while. Stickers are a bit more time consuming to remove, but it's easier to do it without ruining your paint. ",
"I would think someone that was as good at getting away with murder as MechaHillary is in your mind probably should have considered using that particular skill to not lose. ",
"It's more location based I think. If you're in a more metropolitan area people tend to be more liberal. Plus I think more conservative women are less likely to be on dating sites to begin with.",
"I believe you are right. It goes without mentioning quadrillions of people and puppies have already died from his policies. It's a total slaughter man.",
"This country is a shithole ",
"It was on that trajectory before he came into office though. ",
"I have a job that I love, benefits, a retirement plan, and health insurance. I worked my ass off to get to where I am. But I also have the presence of mind to know that I had a much easier time getting to where I am because of my demographics, and I have a shred of fucking empathy for my fellow Americans that aren’t as lucky as I was.",
"Literally a 10 step process outlined here: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/files/M-1051.pdf",
"Lol give me one example of someone who doesn't have the ability to not go into debt for higher education?!?! Give me a single example of someone who HAS to have an education RIGHT NOW.\n\nI am in no way saying poor people can't have an education, I'm saying for them to be smart about it. They could easily save themselves a lot of stress by doing the smart thing rather than rushing into financial crisis so haphazardly as you have.\n\nYou obviously haven't grasped any of what ive said",
"[At least he can walk a distance](https://gfycat.com/DefiantSpotlessIndianpangolin) ",
"I'll take this any day over the usual fluff crap on here.",
"You know what i love most about this comment section?\n\nAt least a 1/3 of the comments here are just practically saying \"I am getting real sick of this shit\" This gives me hope, let us all try to move forward together ;)",
"You're right. Good thing that figure includes people from all 50 states, you fucking moron ",
"> I want somebody to fucking tell me what was so unusually terrible about Clinton. She was a regular fucking politician, except she has precisely dick for charisma.\n\nYou seriously think the only problem with her was her Charisma? Did you ignore everything in the months leading up to the election? ",
"Wait till Obama's policies are no longer in effect. We're experiencing some of the last good things and then trumps goes into effect.\n\nNo more of us getting better.",
"Not even remotely close but you can continue to be told how to think by CNN",
"I see this post like fucking weekly.",
"5 fucks 1 dick...nice",
"Look at the comments. I've noticed a pattern. You got those on top saying more funny shit. Then the comments under are those \"I'm not a trump support but DAE think this isn't funny\"\n",
"You keep saying insane things you think, I'll keep posting evidence and references. Enjoy insanity.",
"Well jumping through those hoops, paying those funds, on top of being a normal teenager is asking too much. Its not \"file this paperwork then wait 10 years.\" It's ten years of consistently having more shit to deal with with the federal government with pop up fees, Roadblocks etc. ",
"First let me say that I don't believe most people are truly that different in regards to intelligence. IQ is dynamic, you can gain and lose significant points for a variety of reasons. Enculturation, environment, and education plays a vast role in one's \"intelligence\" or ability to undertake more abstract thought. Despite the reasons, (I believe it cultural, not biological) conservatives tend to rely more on emotional ques than intellectual ones, intellectual laziness runs rapid in rural America, I was brought up in it in and saw it first hand in Appalachia. That's the biggest issue, there is a culture of ignorance, a pride in it. ",
"she won the pop vote, the GOP won by a narrow margin coming down to counties. Since then they GOP has lost more ground.",
">You realize that you constantly implying they're stupid is one of the things that galvanized them and ultimately led to him winning right? \n\n*'Stop saying they're being stupid and self-destructive out of ignorance or they'll be stupid and self-destructive out of spite!'*\n\nSorry, I refuse to be held hostage by their emotions.",
"You do realize the user who posted this wasn't encouraging discussion and/or constructive criticism but was implying that trump supporters are a large group of stupid people. According to he/she most of my family are retards.",
"I don't think you understand how polling works. \n\nBut you're a trump supporter so that's a given lol",
"Your a self righteous one, ain’t you?",
"You mean like the large group of people who didn't bother to vote?",
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interesting point of view, but have you thought of the possible implications for your point?",
"'cept no one's really attempting to do that, just pointing out that people in this thread have a belief that others' beliefs are misguided...\n\nIt's more or less \"you believe half the country is stupid,\" not \"here's why half the country *isn't* stupid.\" I'm pretty sure the people calling half the country idiots realize that they're calling half the country idiots. So if you want to show how misguided people's beliefs are that others' beliefs are misguided, try actually doing that.",
"Lol but if it got worse it would have been Trump's fault right? Right.",
"ha ha trump big dumb hahahahahhaha big stupid hahahahah more like drumpf hahahahahhahahaha ",
"Some people don't like politics in r/pics. i.e. \"I only want to see kittens and dawgs\". So I'm moving the political pics into a different sub. I'll create a bot that will do it automatically in a few days.",
"Trump supported the Iraq war too so that's a goofy position to take. ",
"Look, if you aren't willing to engage in conversation with people who don't agree with you, then idk what to tell you. Obviously I've heard the arguments against Trump and most of those arguments are quite dumb themselves. Pussygate is really the only thing Trump has done that I would classify as out-of-bounds, and that was in 2005",
"Why is Reddit so liberal? ",
" I agree with you on one hand because I see people easily offended these days. \n\n I don't agree when it comes to politics for one simple reason - There is a large difference between those judging someone's opinion and being outright hateful or prejudice. There is a huge difference between someone actually defending themselves with their views in a discussion, or argument over just slinging shit.\n\n Constant bashing, insults, circle jerk, and whatever other toxic acts you want to throw in there over someone's political affiliation isn't good. \n\n What it does is potentially push people away from your party and that's why I don't like it. No one is going to want to join a political movement when they seem to hate you. ",
"Alright, would you care to debate a non Democrat who disagrees with you then? I'll let you open.",
"p. sure he was talking about reddit",
"Antifa",
"2011-2014 F150 crew checking in",
"You didn't say let people \"have them.\" People are perfectly free to \"have them.\" They're not free to have them go unquestioned.",
"They are both morons. Her debate strategies were god awful.",
"Look I'm real proud of your ability to regurgitate soundbytes, but you're not helping the issue by reinforcing bullshit partisanship.",
"Trump inherited billions from his father's real estate company. He didn't do shit to earn it amd has many mob links surrounding his casino deals",
"Right. Because everyone knows, 9 year olds are perfectly aware of how to apply for citizenship to a country they’ve only ever known as their home. ",
"Countries doing great. Wish we could make a few changes like with working towards using more renewable resources but for the first time in a while I actually have a positive outlook for our country.",
"Our only hope is that Americans move beyond blind partisanship. ",
"Agreed. A person with basic human decency can tell he’s a horrible, horrible man.",
"The reddit hivemind is made up of young liberals that gang up on anyone with dissenting opinion, and upvote anything that reaffirms their own. I think it's unfair to generalize all liberals that way, but you see it in threads like this one.",
"1. Gave up huge chunks of national parks to businesses.\n2. Made it legal for internet providers to sell or information.\n3. Followed that up by killing net neutrality.\n4. Decreased regulation on coal which means good bye slightly less toxic air where I live.\n5. Appointed an AG who goes after states rights and is a firm believer in civil forfeiture which is corrupt as hell.\n6. Appointed a religious nutter to the Supreme Court.\n7. Tweets and says embarrassing shit on a daily basis which makes me so proud to be an American because he is really smart. Like really guys a genius.\n8. Appointed incompetent or corrupt prior to positions of power such as Goldman Sachs CEO to run the Treasury. Or Betsy devos who is fucking me with my student loans.\nThat's just of the top of my head do I think that people over react to stupid shit he did yes. But compared to Clinton, Bush, and Obama. Yes he is fucking with my life way more.",
"I looked at all of your sources. Two of them had to do with education, which has nothing to do with intelligence. Any idiot can-- and this day in age, does--get a degree in something easy and useless. It doesn't mean they are any smarter than the next guy that chose the trades. It's a blatant logical fallacy.\n\nAnother one of your sources pointed to data that found an IQ gap between those who identified as VERY conservative vs those who identified as VERY liberal--- which says nothing about everyone in between or the two groups of liberal and conservative as a whole.\n\nThe last source dealt with prejudice and social conservationism and the link to low IQ. I could find no supporting data, and conservatives do not have sole ownership of prejudice.\n\ntl;dr\n\nBetter sources please. ",
"Republicans Democrats independents, conservatives and liberals...\n\nLet’s come together to hold Donald J Trump (who for much of his life was a democrat) accountable for his grotesque behavior in office. \n\nThis ain’t normal. The man is unfit for the job.",
"https://m.imgur.com/B9HUeTD",
"Repost but it’s fine with me",
"By the way the first sticker is worded it kind of sounds like he understands what he is saying about himself.",
"r/conspiracy is that way, buddy\n\n<------------",
"Maybe it isn't ironic, maybe he's warning other drivers that he is part of that larger group.",
"lol wut. how can a PRO-(any political figure) be free of politics??\n\n",
"No real libertarians voted for Trump. If you believe in his xenophobic bullshit, by definition, you are not a libertarian.",
"The real irony is the liberals who post more about trump more than trump supporters... seriously.",
"Trumps one accomplishment this year was not ruining the economy Obama gave us. Give it a few years. These things take time. Also nice 28 day old account with only right wing posts ",
"What better way to get Trump re-elected than to piss off the people who voted for him? I'm sure that won't lead to the same thing that happened in November 2016.",
"Supporting a certain candidate doesn’t make you stupid. Also, I thought that the left was against stereotypes, I guess not...",
"booooooo",
"Run from the truth. Get woke",
"> He's at 46% \n\nNo.\n\nhttp://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx\n\n>Most recent weekly average\t37\tJan 1-7, 2018\n",
"REE",
"Lol wow you really are brainwashed",
"Pretty sure he was kidding ",
"Yay, more of the blame game which proves the above comment even more true.",
"Don’t own a car, so no. Have company truck. Also have a boat, i don’t insure that, and I’m okay with it.",
"That’s like getting angry at someone who painted their house pink. Sure it looks stupid, but it’s theirs to do what they want with. Why let it ruin your day?",
" No, I was drinking, trying to figure out how the fucking hell people could be so utterly impossibly fucking stupid.\n\nSo you like Trump eh? And maybe like Bush you'll see him get re-elected. \n\nAnd then this tax bill will linger over the head of the next president who will have to fix the fucking mess Trump created. \n\nBut you love Trump. Did you love Bush?\n\nWhat did you say to those people arguing in 2004 that Trump is setting the us on a course for a financial catastrophe?\n\nHe took Clinton's surplus and turned it into a massive deficit on top of starting multiple wars, but the effects didn't really fully compound until 2008.\n\nIf you want to say \"it isn't all Bush's fault\" you might have a case if it wasn't still republicans pushing for further deregulation even under Clinton. \n\nSo Obama cut Bush's deficit and took a crumbling economy into a stable one. \n\nAnd you probably blame him for the debt, huh? And whoever comes after Trump is going to be blamed for not cleaning up his mess fast enough?\n\nOh and if you think I am harping on the Republican passed plan.... it's because Trump has accomplished just about shit all other legislation. \n\nHe's passed generally toothless executive orders. Spends a lot of time tweeting, watching tv, and golfing. Has appointed numerous incompetent people including a record breaking number of people who have resigned, not limited to low level stag either.\n\nHe's impressively inept. But you somehow love him.\n\nWhy? Because you like to spite others?\n\n\"I'm not white so no one can criticise me for electing a man whose supreme court pick would even overturn Lawrence v Texas\".\n\n\"I'm not white so my decision to cripple the future economy and government is totally immune to criticism\"?\n\nDo you really think that your beliefs aren't subject to scorn?",
"Well yeah, a president has very little to do with the economy but it doesn’t matter. He’ll ride that wave and make it about him. ",
"REE",
"Regardless of who you support, this shit is fucking annoying. ",
"This was proven to be photoshopped months ago when it was originally posted... go check it's my post where it was gilded. You can even tell it's shopped from a glance the edit is pitiful. No amount of photoshop is going to make Hillary win sorry babies.\n\n[Link for the lazy](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/74rzgb/kids_this_is_what_we_call_irony/do0txfy/)\n\nFuck the shitty shop cuck bois.",
"The economy is doing the same as it was under Obama, and neither one is actually to praise or blame - the president can't decide how the economy will be. ",
"REE",
"I was weaving in \"reeee\". But it seems you didn't catch it. ",
"its this shit that makes me lose my mind when they say they want to be taken seriously. \n\nA completely false and fictional statement like that doesnt warrant seriousness. UGH",
"Lol and you two are the kind of people who pretend like r/the_donald leaks into every subreddit and acts like children",
"I haven't laughed this hard in like weeks. Thank you. Seriously.",
"38% is the lowest for any sitting president in the history of poll taking. Yeah he has horrible approval ratings ",
"I was just referring to that truck specifically. The only concern with a magnet, is the discoloration of the paint if left on and the paint isn't cleaned or waxed. I'm picky about that. Haha",
"You know Gen Z isn’t the same as the Millenials...right? 🤦🏻♂️ ",
"REE",
"Only thing propping him up is the economy (which he has no fucking involvement in). I’d rather not have a president that wonders why we let my parents in from a shithole country...",
"> --Everyone who uses the internet and doesn't own a significant stake in an ISP, due to the repeal of net neutrality\n> \n> Hasn't passed congress.\n\nIt doesn't have to you dimwit. Do you know what the FCC is? They created net neutrality rules, and now they are repealed.\n\nJesus fucking christ our country is full of stupid people.\n\n> --Every voting American, for Trump's refusal to acknowledge that Russia meddled in our election\n\n> You believe in UFO's too? Citation needed\n\n\nCitation needed? How about the CIA and FBI you fuckwit.\n\n>Central Intelligence Agency Director Mike Pompeo on Saturday stood by the U.S. intelligence assessment that Russia meddled in the 2016 election\nhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/11/despite-trumps-comments-cia-stands-assessment-russia-meddled-election/855212001/\n\n> ",
"When I say stuff like this, I get down voted to hell. Congrats on finding a good platform for it! ",
"Nope. Everyone can have an opinion/criticism and voice it, just gotta be aware that now they're in the pool, and will get wet.",
"The irony in this comment is hilarious. \n\n> Things would be more civil around here if not for all these goddamn cunts!",
"LMAO give me a break. ",
"Aaaaannnnnnndddddd search by controversial ",
"Are you gloating? Because this is why he'll win 2020, and why you should support those who are willing to fight for their way of life.",
"Best thing I've seen today. Thank you!",
"It will stop once he decides to stop golfing every 2 days. ",
"lol you are really gullible. ",
"Wew, the comments are very different from when this was posted the first time.",
"The irony is that people will laugh at this and think this person isn't self-aware, when I'm betting they are :)",
"Or are you triggered by how triggered you think I am?\n\nSee how stupid that shit is?\n\nReally. Just stop.\n",
"There's a guy at my apartment complex who had this bumper sticker, a bump sticker declaring his Christian faith, and another that said \"four doors more whores\" on his extended cab pickup.\n\nThe last one has been removed since he got a girlfriend who looks like an active participant of the opioid epidemjc.",
"bye felicia",
">guy disagrees with you\n\n>assume he’s a trump supporter\n\n>also assume anyone who is not on the left is a moron",
"Facebook was the same and it wasn't all anonymous (fake accounts and such excluded)\n\nThe older days of anonymous internet wasn't at this level of hatred.",
"https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/",
"Was that really a thing? Like did anyone seriously do that? I thought that was all a joke.",
"I tend not to place my philosophy on things I read on bumper stickers. I think the rise of neo-cons have changed that saying. I'm seeing far more elderly dems than when I was growing up. ",
"Your grandfather would be ashamed of you trivializing Nazis. ",
"\"Politics is not a battle or a game. There are no winners and losers.\"\n\nThat's just simply wrong and you know it. I wasn't trying to be partisan, I'm trying to be real. People invested billions in both candidates. Call it a bet, a war, or a fight, whatever I don't care. Just don't deny that it is a HUGE battle of interests at every step of the way.\n\nShe is torn apart she lost. Just like all the democrats are.\n\nWhat are you even trying to say?",
"He says without even the slightest hint of self awareness.\n\n",
"Who said I support Trump?",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/74qx40/kids_this_is_what_we_call_irony/?st=JCCTBDBJ&sh=2085124b",
"Or Forbes \n\nhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/",
"The point is that while yes it would fall within the guidelines. I don't think it fits the nature of the subreddit which from my understanding is about photography. ",
"REE",
"Please, post your evidence and references that the only places on Reddit that don't contain political content are pro-trump subreddits. I'll be waiting for this evidence. For all of eternity.",
"Trump supporter =/= stupidity. No need for baseless personal attacks",
"Yeah, that was my position--with Hillary in charge, life would just... go on. As normal. Why is that so bad? \"Make politics boring again\" would be a slogan I could get behind.",
"The majority of Americans are liberal. Just curious what part of the country do you live in? \n\nPolitical beliefs vary greatly by location. You may not have much exposure to liberal if you live in a place like rural Alabama ",
"unleashing the downsizing of coal! WOOO \n\nEven the coal industry is phasing out of coal. \nCoal subsidies cant even save coal",
"Personally I love Reddit being filled with hot takes about how Trump and his supporters are big fat doo-doo heads! It doesn't come off as immature or get tiresome AT ALL.",
"Large groups? Just like the popular vote?",
"Actually it would. \n\nI don’t know what’s so hard to understand? \n\nlol",
" Nigga no one is fucking giving them any attention. What is up with you guys and one person says something all the liberals follow those ideas? Ducking delusional man. I say trump isn't a good president, I'm a fucking liberal SJW. Like wtf. Stop painting the world black and white. It's always the liberals this, liberals that. Not all of us believe that SJW bullshit so stop lumping all of us together, they're the minority of the left but you guys love to talk about them like they control the party. ",
"Sure, or the irony of posting this on reddit",
"drumpf btfo\n\nhow will he ever recover",
"From global warming, to healthcare, to income inequality, I don't see *any* problem that will be helped by bringing in hundreds of thousands of Hispanic or Arab immigrants.",
"They get brigaded more than any other subreddit, so that is the cause. They aren't known for banning people who follow the rules. ",
"\"But her emails\"\n\nYeah her absolutely shitty campaign was pretty much the worst thing out of everything the russians managed to dig up on her.",
"The stock market has been consistently going up. It's not like he magically changed anything. We were in a good place before he entered office. \n\nWhy are you guys so proud of slashing regulations? It's like a Payday loan. It might give you the money you want now but you're sure as hell going to pay for it later. ",
"...didn't call you a moron, bud. You still don't understand how polls work. ",
"whom",
"What? It's based on population.",
"Hur dur Trump is bad. Funny!",
"Never underestimate a group of people judging someone they've never met? ",
"And dumb and uninformed people are far more likely to have even less.",
"was it really? ",
"Wow. To know that there are people out there that actually support Hillary deeply saddens me. How can you be so naive?? ",
"REE",
"aka 'the tolerant left'\n\n",
"Lmao love it, gets downvoted for pointing out a single fact",
"Actual holocaust victims are on record saying the Trump movement is eerily similar to the rise of nazism. \n\nhttps://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/19/opinions/holocaust-survivor-trump-charlottesville-sonia-k-opinion/index.html",
"> but our country is doing great and getting better. \n\nThanks Obama",
"I pay more in taxes on a percentage basis than the richest man in the USA. Is that wrong or right? ",
"https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/19/opinions/holocaust-survivor-trump-charlottesville-sonia-k-opinion/index.html",
"Trump had a TV show....AND a star, he has to be legit. ",
"She kills people. ",
"Republicans admitted this week that they aren’t even going to try for a budget this year. They don’t know how to function in their job. \n\nhttps://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/10/gop-may-skip-budget-kneecapping-2018-ambitions-334946",
"They're going to say something about Seth Rich and all those corpses of raped children in imaginary basements beneath pizza joints. ",
"Is your post supposed to be ironic??",
"Username checks out",
"Federal budget isn't the economy. you guys really think all good things come from the government don't you?",
"REE",
"No. It's a shithole sub on a shithole site, you'll be comfortable here. Don't worry. ",
"r/thathappened",
"The thing is, our other option was Hillary, do you honestly think she would have been any better? our options were insane, both were jokes. Both were the worst option. I didn’t vote for either, I voted third party, but as a conservative, I would have voted for communist Bernie over trump. ",
"I'm pretty sure you don't know the definition of irony.",
"The four states I mentioned are the highest population. This is why the electoral college has been the deciding factor since it's inception. ",
"Economy was good and money was flowing when Obama was president, but all the crazy republicans were screaming about was that Obama is a a Kenyan, Muslim, Commie, Facist. ",
"what obama policies exactly ?",
"Whataboutism",
"He is completely incompetent (see lack of hires to positions) and damaging our international image immeasureably (like literally yesterday he said the shithole comment). In summary: if you think the country is better under Trump youre a fucking moron.",
"You're the one that felt compelled to reply to my original comment. You should have just kept scrolling.",
"That was a direct response to your cheesy ass speech about the folks on the oil rigs. ",
"He says this without even the slightest sense of humor. ",
"We're clearly talking about two different things. How they vote vs what they vote for. ",
"And Russia knows how to use the Internet ",
"Right, single payer. People act like Obamacare is a step towards that. It’s not, it’s a government mandate to buy shit from private companies.",
"Thank you. Every time someone talks shit about trump I ask the this question and rarely does anyone have an answer. Yours is pretty good. Here’s an updiddle",
"He has sources! Downvote!!!!11",
"REE",
"Something so simple that the trump kids don’t understand. ",
"They always do. If only they’d realize it. ",
"Deflection. ",
"The majority.",
"3 million votes is the equivalent of a 2 point spread. In 34 National polls released the day before the election they had her winning by an average of 4 points (spread of 2 to 11 point victories). \n\nThe LA Times was one of the only exceptions that had trump winning, and many people attributed this to the fact tha Gary Johnson was not included on the poll. They had him winning by +3.\n\nIn the end she won by +2 points, but lost 30 states plus a district in Maine. If the polls were right and she won the popular vote +4 she would have swung some of those states her way and maybe it’s a different conversation, but that’s not how it fell together. \n",
"You assume the whole world is laughing, which is not completely true. As a Canadian, many of my friends, family and social circle would love to have trump over the loser we have.\n\n",
"I think the part here is where you can objectively argue why supporting him is stupid.\n\nThen it's debated down and argued that it's only opinion. Mainly because perspectives just get out of whack.\n\nThen it devolves.",
"Job market is pretty damn strong and unemployment is pretty damn low, even though unemployment is a little skewed due to what is considered the labor force participation. I wish the man would just become a mute and shut his damn mouth but really things aren’t bad at all. Things are going pretty damn well, we just have the worst PR president in modern US history. Also many people want to obsess over him and thus aren’t seeing the forest through the trees.",
"Welp",
"You're kidding right? The white house released a statement that didn't even deny that he said it. FOX News is even saying that he said it. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't automatically make it \"fake news.\"",
"This was literally posted less than a month ago and had 20k+ upvotes. OP has no shame",
"Brainwashed by what and for what purpose..? Lol ",
"Sure, I bet a lot of people prefer immigrants that are statistically more likely to contribute to our economy, but saying \"fuck you\" to immigrants from third world countries (who could easily rise to the American middle class) is not very presidential and just hurts foreign relations.",
"I think people need to be open and sane enough to understand other people's point of views and acknowledge when some of their thoughts and opinions have merit. However, that doesn't mean that you can't call idiots out when they act like idiots. I agree with some of Trump's \"ideas,\" but the people blindly following him that think everything he does and says are amazing are fucking idiots. Also, when we get to the point when your beliefs are, \"Fuck everyone who doesn't agree with me,\" or, \"I don't care what happens as long as it upsets (this group).\" (And this goes for EVERYONE) Then shit is seriously fucked.",
"Yeah your actually right. I posted that without thinking, although I still dislike this post, simply due to it not trying to create discussion/constructively criticism and instead implies that trump and his supporters are a bunch of idiots. If you think trump is stupid, fine, but you don't have to go around claiming his supporters are too.",
"Maybe he's boasting? Like, \"You underestimated me my brethren and now we won!\"",
"To be fair, exit polling of thousands of Trump voters were statistically less likely to have achieved higher educational outcomes. Higher educational outcomes are a direct correlate of intelligence. I'm not sure how else you can interpret that.",
"Good one",
"There was already plenty of talk of how divided the country had become during Obama’s presidency.",
"Yeah exactly, like your mom. ",
"So in High School, during Senior Year, they let most students know, across the U.S. that its time to apply for college and loans... so the natural route for most students is to go to college.\n\nAlso, the University I go to is a technical school where software moves fast. If you're two years in, and take a break and come back, youre already behind. I know this because I'm one year away from graduating and people like you suggest simply \"taking a break\" when A.) Most of the jobs I want require a college degree B) im already working minimum wage and cant viably work for a company in my chosen field without the technical know how.\nSo instead of one example, I'll just say a majority of my classmates cant just take a break.\n\nAnd I'm grasping what youre saying, its just insensitive and naive thinking for a complex issue. So yes, im rejecting it, its shit advice.",
"And then the immediate pivot: oh actually I mean the apolitical subs are apolitical. Oh, well thanks for weighing in I guess.",
"This is Reddit, stupid! Bastion of free speech and sincere discussion! \n\nSo, like, basically all of them ",
"Because they have a MAGA sticker. I take it those people take politics into most things.",
"So Obama says for eight years everything is Bush's fault, and his magic plan was to get the economy booming right after he leaves office, and take credit for it for the next two years? Lol ya, makes total sense.",
"Actually it didn't, I thought it did too but no the hasn't been a budget passed scince 2015 so we are indeed still on Obama's budget\n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/5/senate-clears-way-final-passage-congress-budget/",
"Preach",
"Bullshit. Most of them are under 12 years old and the rest are basically the same generation as millennials. For the rest, how the hell are you saying that everyone changed in a year from the most liberal generation to the most conservative generation with absolutely no events causing it",
"That was a whole two days ago, he could have changed! The railroad spike might have fallen out of his brain since then.",
"> How are thousands going to lose their jobs? \n\nfacts are racist or something",
"a guy that has been in office for 1 year - give him all the credit \n\na guy that was in office 8 years give him all the blame\n\nIt is never true. Never. Anything else is straight up denial. ",
"Well, they are stupid. And racist, and ignorants, but not because they are on the “other “ side, but on the “stupid, racist and ignorant side”. Both sides are not the same. They are not equal. Giving a shit and not giving a shit are not equal. ",
"No, because every bodies vote from every state should count. But calling people \"dumbass hicks\" must make it real easy for you to be on the winning side, I suppose. Very easy to paint the opposition in the worst light imaginable instead of remembering there are genuine human beings with differing thoughts and emotions. ",
"The 4 downvotes without accompanying comments prove that the left have no desire to debate using logic.",
"Blatant anti-science, anti-intellectualism, racism, sexism, generally being an international laughing stock... What point is there in discussion? Somebody who doesn't see a problem with those things has wholly incompatible values with me, and neither of us will ever change the other's mind.",
"So we downvote when people ask for sources now?",
"Here, I'll let you get in front of me 😉",
"Nice counter argument",
"And yeah, screw net neutrality and saving the environment, as long as Wall Street stocks go up and investment bankers make money, we’re good....",
"Pictures of cool, impressive, etc, things. Like landscapes or big machines or just cool pictures. Most people don't come here for badly lit pictures of bumper stickers.",
"It’s only okay when the liberals do it. When anyone else says anything they disagree with they are racist, bigot, homophone, and the list goes on. You can’t even debate with them because it just results in name calling and screeching. Watch any video of a conservative speaker on a campus and they are always people who just shout and cause a ruckus because they can’t stand hearing a different point of view. ",
"My aunt is an engineer making bank and she voted for Trump, she said she doesn't get a tax cut under his tax plan.\n\nAll my bernie-or-bust relatives make shit money and are getting a tax cut.\n\nSo.",
"Radical centrism. ",
"Yeah. Thank god those stupid idiots who like Trump will only get more entrenched in their beliefs further perpetuating the divide in this nation because of rational comments like yours.",
"Because they view it as a \"win\". It's a shitty outcome and the smart ones realized that they fucked up voting for him, but at the end of the day its their \"team\" who won. ",
"You're so close. Follow that thread.",
"You can figure it out. I BELIEVE IN YOU.\n\nThere have literally been thousands of \"pro-candidate\" companies and individuals that remain separated from politics. In google offices, it is the norm to bitch about trump. I'm just pointing out that if you want to avoid political bitching on reddit, it is only found in subs that support trump based on ideals, but don't care to talk about it.",
"Bingo. The large plurality, and likely majority, of his supporters have no issue with what he’s been doing.",
"See, those aren't entirely unfair points. But I don't see how he's clearly working against the self-interests of poor people. We'll see how the tax cuts shake out before we really know. But over $2M working-class Americans (not executives) have gotten bonuses and seen an increase in minimum wage *manadated by their employer* (not artificial, arbitrary government bulllshit) in the immediate aftermath of the tax cut. The economy is objectively rolling right now. The stock market is on a tear like never before. The black and Hispanic unemployments are lower than they've been in decades. The unemployment is lower than it's been the turn of the century. I fail to see what he's doing that is so bad. Twitter is his worst enemy. If he laid off that and had a designated spokesperson tweet for him, I believe he would crush it in 2020. ",
"Is this a serious question? \n\nThe Supreme Court vacancy alone was worth it for probably more than half the country. If Clinton had won, her pick would have made Merrick Garland look like a neo nazi.\n\nTax reform and whatever else gets accomplished is icing on the cake. \n\nPersonally I didn't vote for Trump because I live in a state that is dark blue. If I am honest with myself though I probably would have voted for him if I lived in a swing state.",
"'you disagree with me so you is an idiot'",
"Remotely close to what? ",
"I guess the judicial system is a game. Because they assign blame daily.",
"Wow! A anti Trump sub on Reddit???? What a clever idea!!",
"The electoral college should always be the deciding factor for the president, otherwise the nominees would only have to pander to 4-5 states out of 50.",
"You don’t remmeber correctly. The electoral college changes with population. States like Pennsylvania see their impact shrink pretty much every presidential election. ",
"What are your thoughts about the United States?\n\nWhat could be improved? What should be removed? What should stay the same?",
"I never said that. I specifically said exactly what I meant don't try to put words in other people's mouths.\n\nI will also specifically say that you are being a cunt.",
"Itt is an acronym for “in this thread.” Lmao ",
"Well it’s the unfortunate state of American politics where we essentially have to choose between two candidates. It’s bound to have less than ideal representatives for either side",
"Good bot.",
"As a Norwegian, this is news to me.",
"There may be more people in this country who voted Hillary, but rural America came out to vote. Electoral college is the rule of the land.",
"No, everyone deserves the same voting power. Period. This is a democracy, not some oligarchy or feudalist state. ",
"Tips fedora",
"Naw, trump supporters are a minority. They just make themselves seem numerous by puffing up and yelling really loud",
"LOL",
"Nips?",
"I didn’t downvote you. But to be fair I got downvoted for providing a source. That’s just Reddit I guess. ",
"Not many people think he represents the US. But the only other alternatives we're happy to open up the borders to unskilled, illegal immigrants. ",
"We never had that privilege. People pretended we did and that’s why we are here. ",
"This is a troll, right? Right? ",
"That was a pretty quick validation thanks random degenerate.",
"Everywhere is an anti-Trump circle jerk except for in pro-Trump safe spaces. That's because Trumpism is a cult.",
"Moron ",
"Before you get all weirdly condescending when you don't actually prove a point, I would like to remind you we added fewer jobs to the private sector in 2017 than we did in 2016. Of course, I'm sure you magically feel better about the economy now than you did during President Obama's tenure.",
"Just getting your outrage out today? Good luck.",
"All humans are dumb, get the fuck over yourself.",
"Your blindness promotes a Trump 2020 victory. Thank you.",
"That would be expected when you start off by generalizing and calling those with opposing political viewpoints and beliefs \"stupid\".\n\n\n",
"Makes him a Russian hack. Can't wait to watch him burn. The moron put his criminal life under microscopic scrutiny and it's going to end him",
"Go back to the shithole sub you came from ",
"Not that you are helping, either? Lol",
"\"Haha, everyone who supports Trump is stupid. We are so much smarter than those dummies.\" \n\n- most of reddit",
"Oops. Just scrolled your comment history. You're a shitcunt troll. My bad. Moving on.\n",
"Ok if you don't want to discuss then all you had to do was say so. No point wasting your time ",
"Considering Trump's behavior as POTUS, not even mad. ",
"You mean the growth that has stayed completely for the past 6+ years? Yeah, 100% Trump's doing.",
"It’s almost like the majority of people didn’t vote for him, huh?",
"It typically takes under 3 years for the US economy to adjust to changes a new president makes. \n\nJust saying, I don't care who you voted for or what you believe.. if you still support Trump you've lost my respect, but I think it's important for you to be able to voice your opinion even if i disagree with it. As long as we can agree that facts aren't flexible then I don't have a problem.",
"I voted for trump and I’m Mexican ",
"No she wasn't, you doofus. The polls didn't predict that she had a 98% chance of winning. That was the people doing analysis and it was very unlikely that he was going to win. He won while maintaining the largest popular vote deficit in comparable history. 70k votes spread across just the right states swung him the election even though his opponent received 2 million more. I'd call that fairly unlikely. \n\nThe polls were typically within the margin of error on how the votes would be cast. ",
"I think that’s early signs of Dementia. ",
"Obviously it is a generalisation... ",
"Wasn't this a shen comix quote? I swear I heard this before",
"Oh lol",
"https://youtu.be/UGRmipMeYos\n\nExcept here he is jumping a jersey barrier. He also made an insane number of campaign stops and certainly didn’t use a wheelchair to get to any of them. Have fun explaining that away.",
"REE",
"You can see it both ways. Really depends on how you read it.",
"moon landing was fake. NASA lies to us. they are hiding the truth about UFOS\n\nidiots never cease to amaze me",
"nope ur just an idiot",
"Sort by controversial to see what people really have to say",
"You stayed up late and earned your masters degree, right? It wasn't your boss, or your company?\n\n*You're* the one who worked those hours and created that value for the company, right? Not your boss?\n\nSo why do they take the lion's share of *your* labor?",
"Right and he won. Presidents win re-election when the economy is doing well.",
"I'm at a weird place because I disagree with pretty much every thing democrats believe in as far as the economy go, but I can't be a republican because of the bigotry. The social stance of the republican party is so bad that I'm willing to with democrats, despite the fact that I always considered economic issues more important.\n\nI wish Republicans would tone down their rethoric, because I'm a fiscal conservative and want an alternative to the democrats.",
"Underemployment remains an issue regardless of the president. However comparing the numbers Trump uses to brag about the economy (markets and unemployment rate), Obama exceeded Trump last year. ",
"He’s saying that the vast majority of democrat votes come from those states and are not representative of the entire country outside of certain highly populated urban areas, hence the reason for the electoral college’s existence.",
"Why are you questioning your apology? Be about it or don't man.",
"You know Palestine doesn’t exist",
"It's more the less educated. ",
"I think Haiti is a shithole and I also think that's why their best and brightest deserve an opportunity to become Americans.\n\nI'm shocked, but not offended, a president swore in public. I am not offended that he described a shithole aptly. I am offended that his swearing has strained diplomatic ties, has strong racist overtones, and that he questioned why America continues a practice we were literally built on.",
"“You don’t understand how ____ works, but you’re a trump supporter so that’s a given lol”\n\nYou’re not talking to the same guy, anyways, “bud”. ",
"That's okay; I needed your comment.",
"Can you not?",
"Odd, because trump won the electoral vote. Hence the majority. ",
"Hi. I don't want people to believe whatever they want. That's a strawman argument. I'm firmly against bigots, racists, fascists, and the willfully ignorant. On both sides. I think most people are. And most people should isolate and ridicule such fools and make them feel ashamed until it gets so out of fashion that it's impossible for us to elect a president that embodies these absurd principles. At the very least. ",
"Turns out, she's really not that skilled in that area either.",
">Can't go to college because you can't afford it\n\n>Colleges are expensive because of loans\n\n>but, loans are bad ideas.\n\nNice catch 22. What's your solution? Make sure you're not poor to begin with?\n",
"Lol",
"Fascinating! Source? How about billionaires?",
"What if it's just lazy, obvious bullshit I want to filter? Got any methods for that?",
"She's not getting any resources that she hasn't paid for out of pocket. And the example I stated was to highlight the fact that she is just as unfamiliar with her \"homeland\" as I am, and its not fair to punish someone for something their parents did.",
"The EPA is not a useless bureaucracy, do you not like having clean air to breathe or would you like your major cities to become like Beijing or Delhi?",
"Saying a lot more about yourself with that one",
"Trump supporters... You can’t escape them it’s inevitable.",
"Yeah, I clarified that in another comment. ",
"Yeah... I had no way to know if it was you who downvoted. Sorry I got so defensive.",
"Edit: NM misread that as \"his debate strategies\"",
"Yessir!",
"Okay. I think I got it. I'm guessing second grade education there? Might wanna revisit your approach to communication because I have no idea where you're coming from.",
"Oh",
"2018 midterms are going to be really fucking interesting. Part of me thinks it’ll be like 2010 where the DNC lost its control (except the reverse) but part of me thinks voters not show up because the DNC typically is terrible at rallying people to the polls. You’d think they’d have enough motivation this time around lol. ",
"Yep. Look at graphs of unemployment rates and the stock market during Obama's term.",
"You know you are the only one who said that, right?",
"No worries! ",
"I love the drama and poking the bear. It's either children who aren't part of the voting community, or grown ass people who would rather take to internet message boards to whine about politics, but don't feel like doing anything themselves. I'm a voting citizen who does research before I vote, and although I lean right I'm not married to the Republican party, so I just love reading these late night threads and see how childish the voting adults around me are. I don't know how we still have a planet, there is so much nuclear power and so many stupid stupid people in the world, how has there not been a single person with codes to a nuke to set off a mass nuclear winter yet?",
"Nail on the fucking head.",
"Regardless, I'm still happy it ain't Hillary..",
"rules are rules. her parents made a (shitty) choice. OUT OUT OUT ",
"Yeah, honestly I’m pretty neutral to trump, just wish he would shut his mouth, and while I’m loving this economy, being honest there’s no way he’ll win in 2020, not without something unforeseeable happening. Personally I don’t think he’s going to run in 2020, but if he does it’s going to not be good considering Trump only won the first time b/c he was up against another one of the least liked and trusted politicians of all time. ",
"The pew research link shows exactly that, also exit polls during the election. \n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/election/results/exit-polls\n\nhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/behind-trumps-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/\n\nhttp://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/\n\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/charts-show-the-political-bias-of-each-profession-2014-11\n",
"Why do you guys think all regulations are good? ",
"I don't see anyone mad really, if anything laughing at how pathetic people are acting.",
"To be fair the people who judged every person to the right of them a Nazi, or judged every Bernie supporter a sexist Bernie Bro during the last election cycle helped us get were we are too.",
"You're not making any sense at all. Every Pro-Trump sub is full of politics and it is mostly bitching about the left. If you deny that then you are simply a shill. Right now everyone hates everyone and its everywhere. But you can pretend you have the high ground.",
"Either the president has control over the first year or they don't. If you want to use Trump's first year than you need to use Obama's first year. ",
"I voted Trump. I guess that makes me stupid",
"Not saying he won’t win, just saying Trump and his party are hypocrites. Also republicans hate net neutrality, want to end Medicare and Medicaid, and shit on the environment.",
"Zero irony. \nTrump 2020.",
"You're right but the 'older days of the internet' had much fewer people on it. Keep in mind the civility on the internet began its heavy nose-dive back around the [Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September) flood of regular people to the internet. Prior to that, your users were nerds willing to work through the problems and fix it, wait for an image to download at 9600baud etc. Not to mention back in the day a state of the art 16mb (hard disk, not ram, ram was in kb) pc was 3-4k - people who wanted to be on the internet originally *really* wanted to be on the internet.\n\nIt became here's 5$ get your internet on, and it turns out the average human is pretty shitty, let them be anonymous and exist in a bubble and they're a lot, lot shittier. \n\nThis wasn't just Facebook or just Twitter, this shit started with AOL and anyone who was around when AOL got to its peak knows it.",
"Seems like the same kind of pride when you stand up, turn around, look into the bowl, and behold - the most magnificent turd you ever shat.",
"I came here to read some spicy comments.",
"You are exactly the kind of person I am referring to thanks",
"Emigration, that would be. ",
"Which includes shit like Breitbart for some reason.",
"Hey, fuck you, guy! I didn't insult your mother, don't call me a fucking Trump supporter.",
"\"do that means they're stupid?\" This comment is a pretty good indication that you're stupid.",
"This is why I can’t enjoy social media anymore.",
"Trump's (gop's) first tax legislation was passed less than two weeks ago. You think Trump had shit to do with this economy? Thank his classy and educated black predecessor for our current economy",
"YOU MUST HAVE BEEN PRESENT AT AUSCHWITZ THEN YOU FASH! HOW MANY MINORITIES HAVE YOU MURDERED?",
"This is why you guys lost Alabama ",
"I'm not American and every day is a new laughing fit for me. I also shake my head a bit, and sometimes I facepalm. \n\nTrump isn't on your side, do you not know this? Trump thinks only of Trump. ",
"Every sub is an anti-Trump sub except for the few that support him and the GOP. The whole world outside of Trump supporters and the GOP is anti-Trump.",
"You can easily fact check any politician. Trump has diverted from facts at an unprecedented rate. Would you like sources? I doubt you’d accept any of them. ",
"It's not Anti-Trump, it's neutral for political pics. And I'm a T_D sub/poster.",
"So all I have to do is repost this image again a few weeks from now and it's an easy ride to the front page?",
"They're not following it.",
"For believing that if you make public statements you should be ready to defend them? Guilty as charged, I guess. ",
"Bud",
"Bat country? ",
"What has he done so far that you approve of?",
"I'm not the guy you responded to, but I formed my own opinion based on the full quote.\n\nCrawl back to your safe space. Preferably, leave the country and stop trying to ruin it for real American patriots.",
"Don't be. Everyone on either side is definitely not stupid. It is likely that on individual issues one side is wrong and the other is right but there is definitely stupid people on both sides.",
"On a more important note...did ANYBODY notice that the bumper sticker was a George Carlin quote?",
">No individual is entitled to anything they have not personally earned\n\nI'm tracking...\n\n>An employee that feels he is having his labor stolen can sue\n\nOn what grounds? Under capitalism, you can own the means of production privately and hire people to work them for you. Which means you keep the profits of *their* labor. Maybe it's not stealing, but what do you call it when you don't get back what you put in?",
"It's just a lot of people who support donald got inducted into his subreddit and then they teemed over from there. ",
"Salty liberals, half off! ",
"Yeah I browse reddit on mobile and having all this anti-trump shit pop up everyday on almost every sub gets really annoying. ",
"Absolutely. ",
"Can we not attack each other? We all live in the US.. we all fail or succeed as one. I don't agree with your political views, and if you support trump I likely don't agree with your personal integrity or the way you view your fellow man, but you have a right to an opinion even if it's one I think is morally wrong. When we take sides, when we fight, when we point fingers, everyone loses.",
"Why you so stupit",
"> Have fun explaining that away.\n\nExplaining what? That he isn't completely immobile? I never claimed that he was. I'm claiming he's a lazy, obese fuck with such little stamina that he takes vacations on a weekly basis, never exercises, and eats like shit.",
"In that case, I propose, much like inherited wealth, you inherit your parents debts legally after death. ",
"Maybe, but Obama didn't actively create the division.",
"not it",
"Social media is really what did it. People have been free to spread whatever bullshit ideas they want to either like-minded people or people who are as gullible as all shit, and it spreads like fucking cancer.\n\nJust look at any political Facebook post or YouTube video (hell, it doesn't even have to be political). There is zero intelligence in any of the comments.",
"Sort comments: controversial",
"Oh stop your just projecting snowflake ",
"*Grabs popcorn*",
"You say while in your safe space",
"No, I caught it. Just not sure why that's clever. Also noted you edited your comment because you realized you literally added nothing to the conversation. And just interested in your take for a second, you don't believe Trump's comments yesterday were racist?",
"Username equally ironic ",
"Meddle large speakers giantbed psilocybin \n",
"Go take an econ class, then try again",
"You can't even form a proper basic sentence. You're not texting your step-daughter, this is Reddit. Use real words and punctuation. ",
"Ah. I missed seeing this shill posts!",
"Seriously explain to me how ending a temporary, yes temporary, protection after 17 years for 200,000 Salvadorians translates to PRESIDENT TRUMP (I made it all caps to piss you off) kicking them out bc they’re different? No wonder no one takes liberals seriously ",
"Current? Yes, this divisive atmosphere sprang into existence in 2016. You keep on believing that.",
"There’s actually one at the top of this thread ",
"Well i disagree with you. :)",
"I'm sorry, I don't really comprehend virtue signalling. Please hang up and try again.",
"The quote is not \"Never underestimate the power of people in the largest group\".\n\nThe quote is \"Never underestimate the power of *stupid* people in *large* groups\".",
"This picture of photoshopped and has featured Trump, Hiliary and Bernie in the past. Ridiculous hivemind mentality of misinformation on Reddit",
"Didn’t wanna offend another lol 😂 ",
"> You're a shitcunt troll.\n\nThe sign of a leftist without anything to back up their stupid yapping.",
"So I'm supposed to pity the person who says \"sure I'll go into debt!\" Because someone offered it to them??\n\nGuess what? There are more jobs in between your minimum wage job and your career. I worked in a warehouse for 15$ after working at Burger King for minimum wage. Job searching is a hell of a system with the internet.\n\nAnd I'm not saying to take a break, I'm saying your ship has sailed, so blame yourself and help others from falling into it rather than blame a president for all your problems",
"I mean he wrote a long ass comment about it that seemed pretty full of anger. \n\nI honestly get so sick of people getting pissy because someone made a totally milquetoast insult about the president. They don’t actually care that it’s on “the wrong sub” they just want an excuse to be mad without it seeming like they’re mad that someone offended them. It’s the kind of shit they make fun of liberals for and it’s just annoying. They can scroll past it if a bumper sticker offends them so much",
"Don’t give them excuses. ",
"they do, and it has nothing to do with the DNC. Just like in '10 it had nothing to do with how badly the GOP was running. Reactionaries are always easy to mobilize. 2018 is going to be wild. I think we will see a massive wave of blue in the house and a GOP gain in the senate. ",
"Trump is still existing in Obama’s economy as he has had limited policy achievements. His major one, the tax plan, has barely begun to take effect. I’m not sure what you are arguing. ",
"Up voted. Keep up the foolishness. Only helping us! ",
"They have become self aware! ",
"Got me there. Is that offsetting penalties? Repeat third down?",
"Lol aww a Libby calling someone else a snowflake. The precious moments <3",
"I mentioned this before but. Instead of performing research or learning objectively I notice many turn into a memorization contest to recite.\n\nTrue debate and arguments have proof of burden but at what point does it become common knowledge?\n\nI've seen people receive numerous sources in a debate, drop down a post and restart with the previous experience wiped clean as if nothing stuck.\n\nNo offense to you, and I'm on mobile and too tired to source but I'm sure I could scroll a whole minute and find quite a few already posted in this very topic.\n\nI see the left sourcing the crap out of everything and the right just.. ignoring it, forgetting It, open handedly dismissing it.\n\nSometimes you have the unique experience of a true debate.\n\nThat's all just anecdotal but a real question. At what point of providing sources would actually change your opinion? Is it even possible? (Assuming you support trump)",
"You wouldn't be crying if the pic agreed with your views.",
"*sorts by controversial*\n\n[MFW](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/125/331/feels-good-man-goat-squint-12883904505.jpg)",
"To my knowledge, yes.",
"I'll just continue to enjoy my apolitical areas, you continue to live in areas where everyone is full of hate. \n\nNo high ground, we just have different preferences.",
"It's been growing at the exact same rate for nearly a decade. You people literally just make shit up.",
"\"People I don't agree with are stupid!\"",
"He didn't say anything other than people liked her less than Trump, and it was automatically assumed he didn't support her because of her genitals. You know, not like there are plenty of reasons one might not like Hillary, nope it's because of gender.",
"meanwhile 90% of reddit calls the disclosure of media and tech companies colluding with the DNC \"weaponized information\"\n\nthe dipsht who posted this probably thinks this.",
"Weren't democrats angry about trump not actually having the popular vote? Who are the stupid people in large numbers? ",
"What is the cut-off for \"stupid\"?",
"this sub is garbage and virtue signals.\n\nI thought politics wasn't allowed?",
"Because they usually are. It's not like they slap them on for funsies. Someone screwed up somewhere which necessitated a rule being made. \n\nYou would think the government shouldn't have to tell companies not to catch rivers on fire but that's not the case.",
"Found the Russian!",
"Wew hot take",
"> It used to be okay to have different opinions and not be judged by it.\n\nWhen was that? When you were a wee baby? This was never true of adults.",
"I don’t even see how that’s relevant to my comment at all",
"> Aaaaaaaaand the sanctimonious and childish bullshit that got him elected. Fucking people never learn. \n\nSo, stop calling you stupid or you'll vote for him again? Interesting threat. I guess no one needs to call you stupid any more, you've made that clearly self evident.",
"By the fake news for their agenda",
"this sub is absolute fucking trash\n",
"Oh look, more cancer ",
"Actually, they cant.\n\n\n1) DACA is a program to protect DREAMers — unauthorized immigrants brought to the US as children\n\nIn the 1990s to mid-2000s, the US started building up enforcement on the US/Mexico border, with a huge unintended consequence: Many unauthorized immigrants avoided repeated risky border crossings by settling in the US with their families. (Previously, unauthorized immigrants had mostly been working-age men who crossed back and forth to the US for work while their families stayed in their home countries.)\n\n\n\n--THIS PARAGRAPH RIGHT HERE EXPLAINS WHY THEY CAN'T GAIN LEGAL STATUS BEFORE DACA--\n\nAround the same time, changes to US law made it nearly impossible for an immigrant to get legal status if they’d lived in the country illegally. So the children who crossed illegally into the US with their parents were growing up in a country where they could never become legal residents or citizens.\n\nThese children became known as DREAMers, after the DREAM Act, a piece of legislation meant to give them a path to citizenship first introduced in 2001. But with that legislation stalled in Congress, President Barack Obama in 2012 created the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA. While it didn’t give them a path to citizenship, DACA offered DREAMers a temporary grant of protection from deportation and a permit to work legally in the US. The protections last two years, after which immigrants can apply to renew for them.\n\nNot all DREAMers, though, became DACA recipients. To apply for DACA, immigrants have to have come to the US before 2007, and have been 15 or younger when they arrived and younger than 31 when DACA was created in June 2012. They had to have a nearly spotless criminal record and be enrolled in high school or have a high school diploma or equivalent.\n\nPerhaps most importantly, they have to apply. It’s estimated that about 1.3 million people would be eligible for DACA, but right now, about 800,000 people actually have it.\n\n",
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHJAHAHAHAHASHBFHNasdfjnfASHFPads\n\nyoure not even supposed to capitalize reddit you pseudo intellectual teenager. Thanks for the laugh though",
"Lmao so you know better than the WH doctor?!? Not one doctor has described him as obese. Glad to have your anonymous expert opinion though 😂 oh and you said he “can’t,” walk long distances with no proof and can’t counter the fact that he’s always on the move. Pathetic!",
"So you admit they aren’t always good?",
">He won the office not because of white movement, but because people are so sick of congress not getting along we were willing to chuck this dude into the office just to blow it all to hell\n\nActually, no, post election polling demonstrated pretty clearly that he won mainly because of white supremacism, but I will agree that the idiots who want to \"blow things up\" are also to blame.",
"imma go out on a limb and guess that he's not going to click that link ",
"Our guy won. GEOTUS.",
"Can I shit in this hole?",
"Look in the mirror, you shining beacon of intelligence for all the world to behold.",
"You're talking about yourself, right OP?",
"A civil war between who exactly?",
"Well, he's right. We made the mistake of underestimating the power of a lot of stupid people in a very large group.",
"Ha, he states his case and then presents some great evidence.",
"The question was: who has Trump harmed?\n\nThese 200,000 Salvadorans are a clear example. This shouldn't be hard to understand. This is Trump's administration directly making the lives of 200,000 people worse.",
"It's tribalism. The Internet just magnifies it.\n\nTrump is a Republican, and Trump believes X, so therefore I believe not X.\n\nPeople will say the dumbest shit just to believe not X.\n\n(Note: This applies to Republicans too)",
"Companies are experiencing record profit margins. Do you work for a major corporation? Most of this money is being paid out to share holders and reducing their debt. This won’t improve the livelihoods of the vast majority of Americans who aren’t heavily invested in the markets. \n\nReaganomic tricky down mythology has never worked and will never work. It's overwhelmingly rejected by a large majority of economists. This money will quickly be distributed to those who already have plenty of it and will do little to stimulate the economy.",
"How can you put both those stickers on your vehicle and not facepalm over what you've done?",
"Blacks fall behind on the bell curve at about the same level as protestants in Ireland used to (might still? Not sure). That correlates more to being, effectively, second rate citizens for decades/centuries. \n\n*Choosing* to be woefully uninformed on political social issues makess a group far less sympathetic. ",
"Are you refuting that she could have?\n\nThe best statistical analysis in the world gave her an over 70% chance.\n\nYou're basically saying \"Yeah! Probably why we beat em nearly half the time in football!\"",
"My point being it's not necessarily the anonyminity itself.\n\nIt's just the population exploded and every village idiot found one another and grouped together.\n\nMy AOL days weren't this bad. IRC was fairly clean too. BBoards were moderated nicely. (Most experiences)",
"Its almost like you didn't read the last half of the sentence I typed.",
"Wait. You seriously think the economy and unemployment rates magically changed for better without Trump actually implementing any significant policy change? Even if he had done so, the trend was upward for the economy (downward for the unemployment rate), and a year is way too little for any change to reflect so drastically. Honey, this economy was Obama’s gift for that orange ape you Americans currently call President. Get real. ",
"> I should say places that are upfront about not giving a fuck if you care about Hillary/Trump and point out how stupid people are on either side.\n\nIf there's a sub pointing out the stupidity/hypocrisy on both sides, I'm interested. There's definitely enough content for one. It'd probably have to be one of those no-downvote subs though.",
"> The whole world outside of Trump supporters and the GOP is anti-Trump.\n\nSee, the fact that you even think that is INSANE. The majority of Americans just barely even care enough to ever get out and vote for anything. 45% of people out there literally just don't give a fuck.\n\nThose 45% are now laughing at everyone else, and if you can pull your head out of your ass, you get to join in.",
"This guy must shit right in his own mouth ",
"That's what Reddit has become. If your point of view is slightly right than the norm you're labeled an alt right nazi. Disagree with abortion or similar issues you're labeled a misogynist who hates women. Point out the flaws in the left than you're straw picking. I know you're getting downvoted to shit but you have a good point. I've been on Reddit long enough to understand how it works. Different opinions are not welcome in many subreddits.",
"I'm not a trump supporter but that's ad hominem. Not cool. ",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q0qgo/oh_the_irony/dslsaz6",
"Ah yes, the EPA has done so much for the LA smog and Flint’s drinking water. True life savers!",
"I am one of 2 users on Reddit and I feel you brother. Reddit is a college liberal wet dream. This is not the real world fortunately ",
"Don’t know why we let people from shithole states like Alabama and Mississippi vote.",
"I just linked you to one. Shows how little effort you put into anything. Ignoring.\n\nTop 10 posts have them mocking stupid democrats and stupid republicans.",
"Damn I look good",
"Try not to be too embarrassed. \n\nYou can delete your earlier message if you want. Anything to make you more comfortable. ",
"This doesn't sound like it was written by someone with a real grasp of Hillary Clinton's career or global politics at large.",
"So you aren't a liberal? Good for you.",
"i know, and realize this now but i didn’t expect this to get nearly this much traction. i just thought it was a funny picture ",
"What decisions. His cabinet strategist is fucking fox news, which puts him in the same intellectual bracket as my alzheimers ridden 85 yr old gpa",
"I think what he’s getting at is that no matter what you choose to define as intelligent l, the guy you’re talking to can point to someone in that group who voted trump ",
"Hillary Clinton isn't a good person, Neither is Trump, but when choosing two piles of shit i'd choose the orange one rather than the one that sells 20% of the US weapons grade uranium potential to Russia or has the political rigidity of a wet noodle.",
"what the hell did you mean then, you were extremely vague and now you're back pedaling, you said \"trump supporters\" not \"certain trump supporters\".",
"And you'll try to say that a booming economy is somehow bad, evil and racist, while quoting a comedian with a late night show. ",
"Some people think about the necessities like being able to put food on the table instead of Prius versus work truck.",
"At this point, the Hilary argument is downright infuriating. We should be able to criticize our President with absolutely zero talk of the losing candidate. We didn't need to bring up McCain or Romney to criticize Obama, and we shouldn't need to bring up Hilary to criticize Trump.\n\n/rant",
"You can say that with Trump even more so.",
"You're absolutely right. Obamacare is nothing but a gift to corporations with the most basic, common sense provisions on top like a cherry on a shit sundae.\n\nNow, simply gutting Obamacare in an effort to discredit your opposition is certainly politically effective, but you're still fucking over the people who managed to hang on even with Obamacare as written. The fuck? ",
"The why do you subscribe? You can easily unsubscribe if it bothers you that much.",
"The main post was comparing the two. ",
"I think I saw someone with the exact same stickers in a Wal-Mart parking lot, lmao\n\nOr it was Hillary but I can't remember",
"You sound like a blast. Learn from your own words, you hypocrite.",
"Don’t wanna stir the figurative ‘shit-pot’ too much here, but what irony? That person clearly knows they put both stickers on there..",
"By judging I mean not being labeled a nazi for the fact that I support Trump. ",
"TBH I don't get how people still support the \"democratic\" national committee after they staged their own democratic national primary election. \n\nPrimary elections are advertised (in the party charter, party propgranda, by the media, and in textbooks approved by democrats) as reasonably fair contests within the party to select the best and most qualified candidate to win the General. Instead they selected the most incompetent, corrupt, and seizure prone candidate that could force herself on them by covering the crushing debt they had. Whats worse is that with her supreme incompetence in charge of party finances she gutted the funding to downballot candidates for the house and senate pretty much guaranteeing republican control of congress even if she did win. Granted Sander's was less than ideal, but when a unknown candidate who is not intended to win even one state somehow wins 22 when you and your agents are doing everything in your power to stop him and prop up Hillary its a sign that he was a truly powerful, base invigorating, and most of all competent candidate.",
"So you mean- all of reddit?",
"The meltdown gets real with triggered reddit users....rapid anti this and that and vigorous down-voting. It’s sad and humorous at the same time.",
"President Trump is killing it! Jobs, economy, consumer confidence! Someday he’ll be appreciated by the haters. In the mean time keep getting trolled by an orangutan on Twitter haha",
"Man, you’re so edgy and cool, and people really care about and respect your opinions.",
"Also the tactics of silencing the women involved with Bill.",
"and 90% of it was made up. Seth Rich, really?",
"It's called climate change.",
"Looks like he gave you a list. Funny how you ignored it.",
"Yes people bet on things, but that doesn’t mean that politics should be handled like sports, where one side wins and one loses. I highly doubt that most people fit perfectly into one of the two parties. People should endorse legislature and special interests that they want, not cry about how “my team won/lost so I’m all great/pouty”. The parties simply cannot represent legislation based on how every voter feels so by joining a “political team” you’re giving up your voice on everything where you don’t fall perfectly in line with the major parties on.",
"that poor bastard",
"I don't see how that's not relevant actually. Like really. ",
"Because 40 and older is really old. Which one of those shows Republican voters are really stupid? I've read them all. ",
"everythings shit.",
"Good for you for working at burger king and shit. Do you want a cookie?\n\nAnd its not \"pity\" it's \"empathy\" something you seem to lack. And this conversation is useless when you're talking to someone who just doesn't give a shit. \n\nSo if you're done trying to lecture me on bullshit, you should go back to whatever it is you were doing. ",
"Thanks, the fewer illiterate people replying to me the better.",
"An irony within an irony.",
"“Triggered” and “safe space” all within a couple minutes. What’s next? “Snowflake?”",
"I think it's important to allow sources like that for situations where they might post something especially egregious that gets traction so it can be countered.",
"When did I say can't? \n\nAnd your catch 22 isn't a catch 22...\n\n\nAfter highschool get a steady job, live at home or cheapest housing you can find, make money, go to college (or trade school) without need for loan or a small loan. \n\nThen you can afford to pay for your kids to go to school and most likely every generation after too.",
"Lol no.",
">Trump inherited billions from his father's real estate company.\n\n\n\n\n\nSurely you have a source for that. ",
"Like the satanic baby eating rituals idiots actually believed? Or debunked shit like Uranium One? Or stuff about her literally killing people with her bare hands?",
"Yep she got tons of votes from two states....",
"Maybe talk about something more substantial than reality TV level drama, and be mature about it.\n\nTrump's brought you all down to his level. You guys scream and yell about conspiracy theories and smoking guns that turn out to be nothing.\n\nYou're ranting about how unpresidental the president behaves, from where people outside the US and any American that's still capable of rational thought after the election, with the way you're acting you have a president that is a true representation of its people. Rude, crude and immature.\n\nBe an ambassador of the leadership you feel you deserve, not a reflection of the one you have.\n\n",
"Yeah, I miss Obama. When it came to the economy it was like he had a [magic wand](https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/barack-obama-now-only-president-history-never-have-year-3-gdp-growth) or something. Trump clearly has [nothing](http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/07/20/trump-cutting-hundreds-planned-regulations.html) to do with it.",
"Absolutely. It's self-reinforcing. Some achieve escape velocity, and now we actually have bigots and TheRedPill scumbags feeling like they might have a place in polite society.",
"Breitbart is banned. ShareBlue, however, is like half the front page.\n\nedit: I'm wrong. Breitbart is whitelisted. ",
"> How many of them would double down? How many of them would ignore all of the terrible things he has been involved in to double down on those tax cuts? I'm willing to bet at least a third of those who voted for him originally would flip their vote or abstain entirely.\n> \n> Of the smaller percentage of Trump voters that actually have benefited from his policies, how many of them would choose greed over a stronger leader?\n\nJust looking at the numbers; Trump won 46% of the vote, and opinion polls have him down around 39% approval now. So only about 1 in 5 Trump voters have disavowed him.",
"A village of idiots?",
"https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2017-06-26/the-world-hates-donald-trump-according-to-new-global-poll",
"Then maybe he should shut his bigoted mouth",
"Uranium deal with russia, taking donations for Haiti then not donating, emails, false statements to investigators with Travelgate, Bosnia scandal, Benghazi, and also omitting large donations from the foundations tax returns (probobly, as with the Haiti situation, to keep most of the funds). Not to mention that Bill Clinton was actually impeached for Perjury and Obstruction of Justice. No way would the american people let the Clintons have power again.\n\nIf you think Hillary is just like a regular politician, then either you do not do your research, or every other politician is way more corrupt than I know. Hillary was probably one of the most corrupt officials to run for office.",
"It's just calling a spade a spade. If you voted for or support Trump, you're an idiot. And if getting called an idiot makes you want to be even more of an idiot, then you have no right to complain about being called an idiot, if you're so determined to be one. ",
"Implying someone is stupid because they believe differently is not constructive criticism, it's just bullying",
"The irony is beautiful.\n\n\"I don't like this post SO I'M LEAVING THIS SUBREDDIT!\"\n\n**Perfect** example showing that conservatives are the real snowflakes. Can't take the heat, so back to your safe space you go.",
"Found another one...\n\nNever go full retard children. You may start to talk about rounding up people and in the same breath insisting your idea of governance doesn't always end with millions of people dead. 😂",
"“I can’t provide a source for my assertions when asked, so instead I belittle people and tell them to do their own research.”",
"I’m curious why it makes you happy that people are mad that your guy won? This isn’t NASCAR or a track race we are talking about. What part of the country becoming more and more divided and pushed to extremes makes you happy? Are you hoping for violent riots? A civil war? What is it? This is way more serious than a trivial contest of winners and losers. ",
"Who says Trump supporters believe they massively outnumber everyone else? I'm fairly certain over never seen that uttered or mentioned anywhere.",
">--Everyone who uses the internet and doesn't own a significant stake in an ISP, due to the repeal of net neutrality\n\nShow us who had actually been harmed directly by this policy so far. \n\n>--Every single American, due to our loss of international standing. In the long term this means higher prices for imported goods, and fewer chances for international partnerships (http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/)\n\nPure speculation about what might possibly happen with international markets. Meanwhile the US economy is booming by all metrics. \n\n>--Millions of Muslim Americans who have to deal with increased bigotry because of Trump's comments on the \"evils of Islam\"\n\nIs this measurable, and so the measures take into account all the incidents which turned out to be false flags to make the problem seen worse than it is?\n\n>--Every voting American, for Trump's refusal to acknowledge that Russia meddled in our election, and thus we are doing nothing to prevent the same in future\n\nRussian meddling is not a surprise to anyone, and it's actual effects are unknowable. Meanwhile Trump is pushing voter ID and auditing to discover and prevent actual fraud, and democrats are fighting tooth and nail. \n\n>--Tens of thousands of would-have-been refugees fleeing war and violence, from Trump cutting the number of refugees we take in by half\n\nInstead Trump helped decisively end the conflict so that people could simply go back home. \n\n>--Thousands of transgender service members who he told would be kicked out of the military they have served, many for decades\n\nSo, aside from hurt feelings and a brief period of uncertainty, this isn't hurting anyone because it's not actually happening. \n\n>--Every taxpayer, who are going to pay for a 20 foot wall that will be easily thwarted by...wait for it...ladders. Just like the existing stretches of wall are now\n\nThe same taxpayers who are going to see massive tax reductions \n\n>--Americans of color who have to deal with the increased racism caused by Trump's support of the alt-right and his racist rhetoric\n\nSee above... concrete evidence of who this is hurting and how? \n\n>--Millions of people internationally who will lose access to HIV/AIDS prevention and treatment (since you probably haven't seen this one on Fox News: https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/05/19/528778797/the-ripple-effect-of-cuts-to-u-s-funds-for-overseas-abortion-services)\n\nBy that argument, you're personally harming HIV patients by not donating to them your entire income. It's not the US taxpayer's job to pay for medical treatments in Mexico...\n\n>--Everyone who has children. Our children look up to the president as a leader, and will copy his immature tweeting, personally attacking people based on their physical appearance, and much more vile shit he does\n\nEveryone who has children is also getting a nice tax credit. And if the president's personal behavior is directly affecting your kids, then you're a bad parent. JFK, LBJ, WJC - all liberal heroes who did and said things as bad or worse than Trump. \n\n>--Women who want an abortion who happen to live in a red state\n\nNow you're just citing random things you dislike. What does this have to do with Trump? \n\n>--Anyone who values freedom of the press. As the president attacks news outlets who cover him negatively, our freedom of press wanes\n\nHe calls them out for publishing false and disingenuous reports. Yet they are still free to write whatever they want. \n\n>--200,000 Salvadorans who, here legally for 17 years, being deported to an extremely dangerous country for no good reason other than \"they're different than us!\"\n\nNo, the reason is that they were here on a TEMPORARY stay, which was allowed to extend far longer than it should have by politicians who didn't have the balls to act in our best interest because of the political consequences. \n\n>--Anyone who lives on the coast, due to the loss of offshore drilling bans in sensitive ocean environments\n\nPeople who live near the coast in areas where offshore drilling happens typically have local economies dependent on that drilling, the bans mean people lose good paying jobs. \n\n>--Women, due to Trump's support of sexual predators like Roy Moore (other men, and children, see this and think it's ok)\n\nReally reaching with this one...",
"Earn your votes, don't expect the worse option to drive them to you.\n\nSorry to interrupt you blaming the victim... Carry on.",
"Lmfao😂😂. This is what I mean. Stop assuming I'm so extreme. I hate late night tv. Like wtf man. ",
"HAHAAHAH A.... did you get what you wanted ?",
"Well that was anti-climactic",
"and the retreat",
"Hillary won the popular vote.",
"Perhaps a reminder about the 2008 election?",
"I bet you were one of those people that cried and repeated the Hamilton cast with “LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE!!” Except for people that don’t believe what you believe, right? ",
"So what you're saying is...\n\n...brace yourself people...\n\n...this is the ground-breaking Edge of the 1990s you have been waiting for...\n\n...if you have not seen The Matrix, SPOILER ALERT!...\n\n**\"BOTH SIDES...ARE THE SAME.\"**\n\n*mic drop*",
"I think he's talking about your political party. You're both right.",
"I didn’t say anything about this site not being for discussion. Like really. \n\nSo what was your point? I’m just confused",
"Yes, of course it was. By pretty much every metric, for almost the entirety of Obama's time in office.",
"Really? Not the people who call people with different beliefs racists, homophobes and any other blanket stereotype they can muster? ",
"But she just locked up the \"super predators,\" because their not even human. Its not like want to end \"chain migration\" for being similar to slavery. \nShe came up with good word but he comes up with bad terms cause we should fear men, which is why once elected she was going to put her husband back in charge because she a feminist. ",
"We've just been adding stupidity and ignorance to the petri dish for 25 years and now have ultra-concentrated medication-resistant dumbasses and don't really know what to do that the sample has gained 100 million times its original mass and taken over the lab.",
"I'm pretty sure most people made that connection from the quote, before CNN even said anything about it. I mean it's pretty obvious- it sounds like something \"drunk racist uncle bob' would say. Based on his personal tweets and previous behaviour, it doesn't really seem that out of character ... ",
"Government has never been larger while people have never been less religious. Politics is filling in the gaps that religion used to have. And the stakes are getting bigger. Its the new version of catholics vs protestants.",
"Think the GOP will gain in the senate? Why’s that? I actually think the DNC might take back the Senate to be honest, but I’m not too confident in which way the house will go. Could be a big dnc gain, but they will need to keep up the momentum to make something happen. Also by next year’s midterms we should start seeing who the dnc is going to throw up against trump in 2020. I definitely expect Corey Bookers name to be thrown a round a lot but theresnot too many sexy candidates out there yet. ",
"Trump 2020! ",
"They can't do anything discretely. They've destroyed evidence before and lied about it. After all she scrubbed her server using bleachbit before being investigated to prevent her emails from being found.",
"Oooh! Pithy! You totally win!\n",
"Dummy probably spending all that tax cut money on good food!",
"I'm against heavy US intervention in foreign affairs, but i do think the distinction needs to be made between deliberately targeting someone, and someone dying because they were in a compound that was targeted.\n\nAlso, they way you phrase they bit about trump killing more civilians in 6 months seems to downplay that you're only talking about the fight against ISIS, and not any foreign civilians killed. You do include it, but to compare only that category seems disingenuous in and of itself.\n\nAlso, those numbers seems much higher than anything i've seen, and I think they may actually be including enemy combatants as \"civilians\", which would be complete horseshit and a straight out lie as i'm concerned. \n\nI could well be wrong on any part of this, but those numbers do seem very off to me",
"😂😂, yeah man let me pass 3rd grade this year and I'll fix what I said when I learn more English. That's for the advice!",
"Politics is liberal propaganda not shitty memes (yes there is a difference believe it or not).",
"/r/itookapicture ",
"2017's version of \"don't tread on me\"",
"As long as things keep going well economically then he will\nContinue to get support.",
"That is not how the Electoral College comes into play. What your suggesting \"saving\" would only come into play if most of the reps were supposed to pick Hillary, but instead picked Trump. This is not what occurred. Hillary won overwhelming majorities in some states, and these states had winner take all electors. So it did not matter how much she won by. Trump won more states by smaller margins in most cases. As such it was more of a 'Federal' win than Electoral.",
">I will gladly listen and respect any legitimate argument one might have for supporting Donald Trump but I gotta be honest, I have yet to actually hear one.\n\nI'm not exactly a fan of the guy, but IIRC Trump took every income bracket over $50k. I think they knew what they were doing, and anecdotally, the people I know in that group seem to be very happy with the administration.\n\nI remember one of them said \"I don't talk politics, I just smile and watch my stock portfolio go up.\" I don't know about you, but I'd consider that to be a pretty legitimate argument.",
"[if you think the paris climate agreement was actualy about climate change then you are not as informed as you think you are.](https://imgur.com/a/KuJsS)\n\n__________________________________________________________\n\n> That means putting a halt to any new coal plants while starting to phase out the ones currently in use.\n\n>Good luck with that. There are currently 273 gigawatts of coal capacity under construction around the world, and another 570 gigawatts in the pipeline, the UN says. That would represent a 42% increase in global energy production from coal. Does anyone really think developing countries who need coal as a cheap source of fuel to grow their economies will suddenly call it quits?\n",
"Obama's economy.",
"Oh no, it’s retarded ",
"How could it not turn into that. The man is practically banned from Britain, our ally of 75 years. I'm embarrassed to travel ffs",
"The people aren't republican *or* democrat. Those parties make that abundantly clear when they side with their donors and corporations over the interests of the working classes.\n\n*We*, the 99%, are in this together. You can go lick boots if you want, but I'm done playing that shit.",
"> Another t_D idiot spotted!\n\nI prefer the term \"stable genius\"\n\nAlso, Ferric Nitrate is a salt, which is fitting, since you people tend to be often [salty](http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/968/920/a68.jpg) ",
"Both sides think the other is stupid. There has to be some way to deradicalize large groups of people and break the walls down that people seem to *willingly* be putting themselves behind. I mean seriously? This is America, Not WW1 Europe. There's no need for this ideological trench warfare.",
"You want to talk about a massive payday loan? How about we talk about the almost $10 TRILLION Obama racked up? He DOUBLED the national debt. Yep! That doesn't fit your narrative, does it. Oh, wait, it was all Bush's fault, right? Come on. The stock market is growing faster than it has in 30 years. Slashing regulations creates jobs, and lights the engine of the economy. Why are \"you guys\" so proud of creating regulations that hinder growth? I'm an independent, so I'm not a big fan of either party. Republicans suck too. I just want this country to do well, and for everyone to be prosperous. I'm tired of people actively rooting against their own country, simply because of politics, and because they are fed bullshit in college, and in the media. Downvote me for an opinion, I'm fresh out of fucks to give. ",
"Some people like to bet on candidates, and some like to bet on causes. Sadly, the majority of people involved in politics choose to bet on partisan lines. I'm not saying I'm ok with that, I'm just saying it's 100% how things are.\n\nI'm a registered democrat who voted for trump. You're literally preaching to the peacher. ",
"username checks out..definitely a Rebel.\nEveryone is entitled to their opinion and I can certainly agree that Hilary Clinton was a less than stellar candidate. I also agree the nomination process for the Democratic party was very shady; but, who exactly did she murder? I must have missed that story.",
"I love you fucking redditors with your insufferable image of self importance",
"Yep. If you like Trump, you're objectively stupid. Deal with it. ",
"I love when Liberals call others snowflakes. It’s quite hilarious",
"Keep marginalizing these kinds of people and see how things pan out. The average American has done pretty well under Trump, despite his foul mouth.",
"Wow. Very cool.",
"Confirmation Bias is a thing.",
"Awf withees hed!",
"Have you seen his approval ratings? He’s not getting re-elected unless the Democratic Party chooses another idiot.",
"The battle cries of a lost argument never get old :)\n\nHave fun fucking over yourself and all your offspring with your financially sound ideologies.",
"I don't have to explain something like that. You think he cares so much about us giving us that tax cut that he didn't bother giving himself some more benefits. Surely trump is such a saint!",
"Yeah he had eight years and right when he leaves it takes off. ",
"\"Self-made\" is such a disingenuous notion. What does \"self-made\" really mean? Did they rise up from poverty? Did they teach themselves everything they know? Did they never step on anyone's back or get assistance from partners, coworkers, bosses, parents? Did they pay for their own education and find all their own opportunities? Did luck have nothing to do with their success?\n\nThe very idea of a \"self-made\" millionaire is naive and masturbatory. It's something the rich people tell each other to stroke their own egos, and something that rich people tell to the not-rich to keep them complacent and convince them that being rich is a meaningful proxy for merit.\n\n[Here's a diagram to help you out.](https://digitalsynopsis.com/inspiration/privileged-kids-on-a-plate-pencilsword-toby-morris/) I say all this as someone whose life strongly reflects the left column.",
"Thank you. I think most people can agree that 2016 showed some of the worst candidates in modern times",
"is irrelevant",
"Were all dumber for having read this. ",
"There are wrong ideas: murder is wrong. Racism is wrong. Xenophobia is wrong. Genocide is wrong. Not every idea has equal merit and some things in life are indeed black and white and should rightly be condemned. This idea that there’s always an equal equivalency is what got is in this mess to begin with. ",
"It's rayciss to call third world countries shitholes when discussing meritocratic immigration policy. Rrreeeeeeeeeeeeee",
"Um, despite it being right, why is it people think every picture on reddit is real? I mean this is a terrible photoshop. Black text block with white text over a magnet that obviously is worn a little as you can see by the edges. ",
"The current leadership? It was even worse before he won. \n\nNo, the media constantly shouting to be the loudest and most outrageous in order to get hits/likes has done this. ",
"That he hasn’t advanced gun control via presidential decree like a few other people I can name\n\nThat everyone on reddit crossed their arms and harrumphed a month before the election and said “If trump wins, the stock market will immediately crash and we will go into another recession” and yet here we are.\n\nThat the same people on reddit crossed their arms and harrumphed again 6 months ago and said “Obama’s economic policies will still be in effect til October, after that you’ll see the economy crash because of trump.” Yet here we are. \n\nThat we have a president who can’t get away with things like droning hundreds of thousands of civilians, and then refuse to disclose the actual casualty figures because no one really cares. Now people are actually observing what the government does, so if trump’s ATF gives guns to cartels or hundreds of millions of dollars in cash to Russia, or uses the IRS to target democrats, or gives a terrorist organization a pass in order to advance a nuclear agenda, or uses FISA warrants from bogus documents to spy on political opponents, people will notice and give a shit.\n\nIt’ll be interesting to see how reddit will be concerned with gun running, cash deposits to theocracies, and the targeting of political opponents for once, instead of just fawning over the presidents Ellen appearances.\n\nEdit: wow a comment I’ve made pointing out that Barack Obama did bad things which no one cared about because he was “cool” and also pointing out that trump has some successes, that isn’t being downvoted into Tartarus. I’m shocked. And no one has even dug through my post history to call me a Nazi or a fat sister fucker yet. This is a new day. ",
"I don't care about people bashing Trump - God knows he's earned it - but it bothers me when they group all the Republican voters together, build a strawman out of them, and regard them like trash and sub-human. Some of the kindest, most hospitable, and well-meaning people I've known voted for the guy because that's what everyone does in their minds - they vote Republican. Yes, people should be educating themselves on politics before they vote, but politics are not the sole attribute that makes a human being. In a world where the government ignore's its people, even less so.",
"The real irony is with the large group of people who upvoted this post...",
"Can confirm. I sometimes post there (for balance, can't have purely left subreddits in my life, eh?) and post opposing opinions. \n\nIt's actually rare that people will attack you for having a different view. ",
"George Carlin quote ",
"They didn’t even have the decency to use excessive filtering on this pic. ",
"Hillary won the popular vote.",
"Not even close. ",
"Preach! And when you can form a logical point and all you have is ridicule to spew, it is time to re-evaluate. ",
"Repost",
"Just wait until people get their tax bills you'll see a lot of supporters for him.",
"I kind of feel like the country can be united in the fact that Trump is an ass hat, regardless of political leanings. A bad human being is a bad human being. I don’t think that point is debatable in regard to Trump. At this point, if one still vehemently backs the man, there’s nothing Trump can say or do to change their opinion of him. That speaks volumes.",
"Nah.",
"I'm not even American, but I think Trevor Noah said it best\n\n..\nWith Hillary Clinton you would have gotten a typical bad politician. She would have been gone in 4 years and you can move on.\n Status quo.\n\nTrump? He is going to be on a whole other level of terrible and we've already seen proof of that this past year...a lot of proof ",
"Lucky you that your life isn’t being threatened by a thousand things that threatens the lives of less fortunate people every day. Be grateful that you can afford to sit around on Reddit being a sanctimonious twat about first world presidential politics.\n\nThis is a stupid fucking game to play. ",
"One might say it’s a... shithole. ",
"> Lmao so you know better than the WH doctor?!?\n\nI didn't say I knew better than the white house doctor.\n\n>Not one doctor has described him as obese\n\nDude, there are pictures of Trump out there. It's quite obvious that he is at an unhealthy weight.\n\n>and can’t counter the fact that he’s always on the move\n\nExcept he's *not*. He leads an incredibly sedentary life compared to his predecessors. The most significant physical activity he has are his weekly golfing vacations.\n",
"I applaud your ability to keep commenting even though the circle jerk down votes and condescends you for your political stance. I might not agree with you, but I respect the fuck out of you. \n\nHeres to when we could have an actual discussion on Reddit.",
"Sorry to hear that. You could always immigrate to the US, though.",
"Excuse me, my good sir or ma'am, I said REE.",
"She arrived at the age of 2 - of course with a responsible party. I'm not acting like she had no responsible party, but if that responsible party doesn't apply for citizenship for you, you believe that the child should be deported at the age of 20?\n\nWhy should this girl - who has only ever known the United States - be punished for something her parents didn't do? At a certain point, you of course should be required to get your citizenship. DACA assisted with that, because it gave them protection from deportation allowing them to start that process. But without it, you cannot begin your citizenship process without first being deported. \n\nSo here you have a 20 year old girl who came here at 2, whose parents for whatever reason, be it fear or ignorance or laziness, didn't get her citizenship for the country she lives in. If she began the process the day she turned 18 (and she was lucky enough to turn 18 while DACA was in place), she could begin the process and have protections allowing her to stay while the citizenship process is completed.\n\nNow, if she begins that process, she'll be deported. If she presents herself to any immigration to continue her citizenship path, she will be deported. \n\nI just wish you - a self proclaimed Trump supporter, were able to say that yeah, this is a shitty thing he's doing and I disagree with him. Thus far I haven't found anyone with the ability to do that.",
"Pics or reddit? I think people stopped going to politics because it was one sided. It’s an echo chamber. So now they’ve all become tragic evangelists for their beliefs and try to find ways to shoehorn it into other subs. ",
"Oh no, it's retarded!",
"You are cunt-rect",
"You’re spewing shit out of your ass. If you’d like to back up statements with facts I’d be happy to listen. Try again. ",
"It's just *so* easy now. I'm not insisting my idea of governance won't end with millions dead, the final number just depends on how many fascists we end up with once the executions start.",
"Dunning-Kruger",
"How? He sounded amused to me.",
"Dividends are highly taxed and when companies take on debt that is taxed too. Trickle down economics works and you're blind if you can't see how.\n\nNext excuse please.\n\nEdit: dividends are taxed after their profits are taxed. Corporations go through 3-4 tax cycles before the money gets to those grubby 1%ers\n\n",
"usually, but not in this case. trump supporters really are that stupid... or rich and not stupid, but mostly just stupid.",
"This is kind of obvious isn’t it? ",
"Aww caring about the people in the middle east..only when trying to draw equivalency between Obama and this Orange Ape. Cute. ",
"That's not what irony is.",
"The popular vote doesn't consist of of the most populated portions of the country? No?! That can't be right!",
"What a clever comment, but you're responding to the wrong person. \n\nNot everyone's opinion is good, or even valid, and pretending they are is dangerously naïve. ",
"Bingo. This is my answer, too. We’ll make it out better with Trump than we would have with the only alternative that the DNC hand picked out for us.",
"Ohh the irony. ",
"You lost this battle, bud.",
"Didn't Hillary win the popular vote?",
"ugandan knuckles is the coolest monkey in the jungle",
"Hasn't it also been proven that trickle down doesn't work? I would call that objectively wrong, as well. ",
"Lemme know how anything Trump does helps with that? He is a golfing billionaire who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth and cares only about his “ratings”. Never had to worry about money a single day in his life. Meanwhile republicans only care about cutting taxes for the rich and giving corporate kickbacks.",
"You're not really answering anything. You get cornered and lash back with an insult like it means anything other than you dont know or dont want to be challenged. \n\nWe may as well be arguing with devout christians about proof that god exists. \n\nYou both just have \"faith\" that hes got your best interest at heart and its just really sad I feel as much pity for you as I am angry that a lot of people will suffer because of your bullheadedness. ",
"Lmao the first post literally says the sub is neutral and not to downvote things you disagree with. Stop trying so hard to be offended. ",
"Net Neutrality, Investment in Green Energy, Higher taxes on the Wealthy, Diplomacy as opposed to instigating aggressions with foreign powers, just to name a few.",
"I think you can buy a leprechaun for 75 Ethereum ",
"yeah i guess it moves in 8 year cycles.",
"I just hate bumper stickers period. It's like an invitation, \"hey, let's never be friends.\"",
"[Yeah the media does suck.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDR47EKTrCQ)",
"Coincidental not ironic. ",
"When your logic comes to the conclusion that supporting a bigoted, raping p.o.s. is the correct choice, yes.",
"No knowledgeable people are saying immigrants would help us deal with global warming, healthcare, or income inequality...",
"Here’s an idea that gets held beyond criticism. Multiculturalism. ",
"Shareblue... and the left’s online media campaign to push anti trump narrative. Shareblues budget is in the tens of millions ffs.",
"haha gr8 response m8, that was so good",
"To be fair, you didn't really have all that much to lose.\n\nEdit: I also love Coco, if you're talking about the movie.",
"A few survivors vs the majority that died??",
"Kind of makes you wonder who the real \"snowflakes\" are",
"They don't understand. They've been lead to believe that somehow letting the politicians split us into two groups and demonizing the other is going to help them.\n\nIt's working. The politicians got what they wanted. We're fighting each other instead of them. ",
"65 million from 50. Troll harder.",
"Still not as bad as imgur. \n\nImgur is a shithole. ",
"His actions indirectly put my entire plans for the future into jeopardy. \n\nI was going to enlist into the Army and get US citzenship under a program that allowed skilled foreigners in. Obama by executive order opened the program to DACAs in 2014. Instead of taking legal visitors and immigrants, it now also took children of illegal immigrants. Fast forward to today the program is closed and I have a mountain of obstacles to climb if I'm ever going to accomplish my dreams. He hijacked this program for his political goals, putting children of illegal immigrants before legal visitors like myself who worked and continue to work hard to immigrate to America. \nYeah, thanks Obama. ",
"Biggest hypocrisy on the internet and real life. People act like they’re progressive and they accept everyone, but then they come across someone who doesn’t believe what they believe and it’s some of the worst bullying I’ve ever seen. Blows me away. ",
"You have a reasonable opinion.",
"What good are jobs added when the economy is growing at the slowest rate since the Depression. I think your, “young Republican,” mind needs to be fine tuned. Nothing, “magical,” about how I feel about the economy. It’s doing exponentially better (before tax cuts) than under Obama. Every empirical statistic shows that. Tell me more about the part time employees McDonald’s added under Obama though.",
"CNN? I’m shocked. \nNice source. I’d have a better chance actually believing a bar napkin written with shit over that garbage. ",
"Oh a Hillary Clinton soldier murdering supporter OP? Hmmm ",
"You're brainwashed as fuck if you think Trump did anything to help the economy. It has already been on the rise because of Obama's Stimulus bill and his several other plans which dragged the U.S. out of the pile of shit Bush left us in. The Republicans are essentially undoing everything good that Obama did, and you will begin to see the economic impact soon.\n\nThe tax reform? Great! More deficit! We're already in $21+ Trillion in debt, but lets slash corporate taxes the greatest amount the U.S has ever seen and start spending more money from loans and bonds. What could go wrong?\n\nDon't be sad when the dollar is worthless and the economy collapses when nobody decides to give us another loan. Our debt is already nearly 60% of our GDP and rising.\n\nWhat else do you think Trump has done? All these things he may have signed, but it was congress that did all the work or the previous administration.\n\nNo mentally healthy person will say the things Trump has said in his tweets. He displays severe narcissism, acts like a child and is probably the most inept president we have had in decades.\n\nWhy didn't people vote Hillary? \"B-b-but EMAILS! REEEEE!\" Nobody found anything on Hillary. You can think she had scandals, but with no evidence to prove the screaming about her emails there is no reason to believe she is a bad candidate.\n\nWelcome to the shithole of politics in the U.S. People spouting shit when they probably can't even name a permanent congressional committee or the speaker of the house. Anybody with half a brain cell would be looking at multiple sources to understand the bigger picture with Trump/Hillary. All I see is Fox only or CNN only. Consume some other kind of media please.",
"That's President Trump you dumbass!",
"So the accomplishments of the president don't count if you happen to be on the other side of the aisle? Come on man give me a break",
"nah just reddit in general",
"What is it than",
"EDGY!!!!!",
">They have done things like complain about the high cost of secondary education \"shouldn't state school be free\"\n\nNo they havent.\n\n>as well as how much they pay for insurance that doesn't seem to cover anything.\n\nYa probably. Thanks obama!\n\n>nd said things regarding care for their relatives on wellfare, and how if they get bumped off wellfare the state will take care of them.\n\nNo, they havent. But just think about what it would be like if they did!",
"Calling someone a trump supporter isnt ad hominem lol",
"Trump supporters are a large group of stupid people. He probably wasn’t referring to them with that sticker. It’s ironic that he doesn’t know he’s a member of the stupid group",
"they were part of the last blue wave and many of them are senators of conservative states that mobilized in '16. The DNC also has more seats up for election than the GOP. they have more exposure to being unseated, and then on top of that are in non favorable seats. 2020 DNC will take the senate. POTUS will see a GOP challenge if we still have trump. He simply cant play the game and the GOP is losing time to get things done. He will be the linch pin of blame to why the GOP couldnt get things done with two years of total control of government. ",
"Sounds like too much fun",
"And if you venture outside most of the popular subreddits to find other points of view, you are labeled a lefty cuckservititve or something along the lines. Its kind of funny how not wanting not wanting r/pics to be about politics gets you labeled a \"snowflake who needs a safe space\". Personally, I think its funny because by telling people to go back to there safe space. they are in fact, making a safe space for opinions of their own. ",
"Every leaving President always gets blame. Bush did...obama did. Just the way it is. ",
"For who's agenda lmao? The Illuminati? You're trying to win an argument so hard you're saying stupid shit. I'm not brainwashed and their isn't any fake news agenda. You're just trying to live in a closeted world by calling everything fake news ",
"What? Knowing before speaking helps. You should try it. If you want a functioning government, the knowledge must lead the way.",
"You’re only really a mouth breather if you’re lauding the middle and lower class tax cuts without realizing they were set to expire. By 2027 taxes will be higher for people like the average redditor.",
"Never underestimate the power of a repost ",
"I bet you think you know anything about me",
"The last half makes no difference. You said Trump \"created\" the atmosphere. It's been toxic for over a decade.",
"Do not make implications about my fine country of United States. I am not comment from Russia. Mother, I mean... Russia is very fine country and not involved in demise of many country democracy. ",
"Yeah. The bashing trump thing is more just a joke, good or bad, overdone and getting old, but it's more tolerable than calling a large group of trump voters idiots. My mom voted for trump, but I don't think she's dumb. Honestly, most of my family did. Why should politics dictate the iq of a person, or the qualities of their personality?",
"I love how they are the ones pretending to have PTSD episodes triggered when they aren't called Xyr and now they're trying to make it as though we're on their level for making an observation.",
"Are you 12?",
"You can always join us over at r/The_Donald and vote for trump 2020. ",
"You seem upset. Take two *nobody gives a fuck what you thinks* and try to sleep it off. Maybe you won't wake up a condescending, mad at the world prick tomorrow.",
"bud",
"Your welcome I get that people have different priorities in politics and its way to easy for most people to hate the other side which is crazy. I just happen to disagree with most of his stances as I personally enjoy my privacy and nature much more than making more money.",
"Here let me stroke that ego of yours:\n\nYou're an idiot because you think this is all so simple.\n\nYou're an asshole for lacking empathy.\n\nYou're a troll because... uh (read previous pretentious ass posts) \n\nAnd lastly, youre not worth my time and energy, sounds like you finished college years ago, so at this point im just waiting for shitheads like you to age and die. But hey enjoy being an absolute trash human being.\n\n\n",
"I’ve been on reddit for 7+ years and this place is almost indistinguishable from /r/funny and has been for a long time. If you want an actual subreddit for photography, go to /r/itookapicture.",
"> no real libertarians\n\nhahahahaha",
"I can't say with certainty and I doubt you can say with certainty that Trump only slashed unnecessary regulations. ",
"Ha ha ha ha true dat",
"For what. You're just gonna continue to deny these facts. ",
"Are you saying ideas can't be wrong? ",
"Oh the irony...",
"E-Coin?",
"Just eerily in support of them I guess. ",
"She never even said anything close to \"trump is a fascist\" lmao. So idk what the point of that link is. Even if she did say that, why would 1 person saying hes a nazi make him a nazi?",
"Well, that’s not correct at all. ",
"It's a fun, casual, funny place to hang out. Follow the rules and be respectful and anyone can stay and talk about whatever. \n\nI think liberals trying to give T_D a shot get discouraged because they have to defend a viewpoint counter to everyone else and it doesn't usually go well for them. It's just like trying to say how much you like Donald Trump's policies on any subreddit that isn't T_D. \n\nI highly recommend /r/AskThe_Donald. It is about a 60-40 split of pro and anti-Trump people who have great discussions on the issues. It was made to welcome non supporters that have honest questions about the issues and who want to understand Trump's supporters. ",
"Spot on",
"Did you and I even read the same comment?",
"> She was a corporate lawyer for Wal-Mart\n\nThis is literally the only actual evidence you provide for any kind of argument in that entire rant, and it's really not all that good. The rest is just you continuing to assert that she's really bad, arbitrarily.",
"Yep- it goes both ways, pal. ",
"Worked or Obama!",
"Yes, given the choices",
"EDGY!!!!!",
"Never underestimate the power of the scouts code",
"Lol, Obama’s failures were bad Bush policies.. good Trump results are Good Obama policies. \n\nReddit logic. Btw, budget is ZERO reason why the economy is booming. If so I’d love your explanation. \n\nWhat the hell does deregulation, renegotiation of trade deals, slashing of government agencies and and tax cuts have ANYTHING to do with budgets? ",
"Haha I like hearing it put that way actually. ",
">The same way they believe Trump has nothing to do with anything yet is at the same time involved in everything.\n\nI don't mean this to take any political side at all (sincerely), but I have absolutely no idea how to decipher that sentence. ",
"So... what happens if country of origin is hostile? ",
">When AI automates everything\n\nPipe dream.",
"> Trump supporters care more about micro aggressive social issues than anyone on the left does.\n\nThat is *absolutely* not true. I'm a pretty damn liberal son of a bitch, so I don't necessarily mean to take a shot at my friends on the left, but come on. As of at least the last presidential election, we've had a lock on identity politics, and I really wish that wasn't the case.",
"I never said I was leaving. It’s just comical that we’re over a year into the presidency and butthurt Clinton supporters still hold the President under a microscope. Boo boo. He’s your President whether you like it or not. Talk about going back to your safe space where “Love is Love” is all laughs and hugs. Give me a break lol",
"Lol woah you really proved your point with that “boom” at the end.",
"Replying becore the thread gets locked",
"Far left is really no different from far right. Both think they're smarter than the other. But at the end of the day, everyone wants the same thing: big governments to tax/ban the things they don't like and subsidize/pay for the things they do like. Neither side is greedier or dumber than the other. Everyone is motivated by self interest.",
"Oh no, I made a grammatical error! That never happens to anyone ever!",
"That's not an irony, that's a trucky",
"you must be new to counting ",
"Driving an all white vehicle (probably full\nof tiki torches)! ",
"Brown people can hate other brown people too is what he's trying to say. ",
"Uh, it kinda is dumbass. Cuz he’s president, hence he won the electoral vote. ",
"That was actually pretty serious",
"Debt is tax deductible. Dividends are earnings on investments and are taxed at the normal income rate, if they are not reinvested in other tax deductible vehicles. Not sure what any of that has to do with what I said.\n\nYou don't seem to know what you are talking about, similar to every other Trump supporter I've ever encountered.",
"I never mentioned cost either directly or indirectly. So maybe try again",
"Uh what facts? Can’t deny it if you haven’t presented any. ",
"YEAH THE ONLY ONE IN HISTORY TO DO [THAT](http://www.businessinsider.com/bannon-trump-lawyer-took-care-of-a-hundred-women-2018-1) im just sayin man. ",
"Yeah! Now they only have to pander to 4-5 [Swing States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_state?oldformat=true) and basically ignore everyone else.",
"you think 1.2% is \"a lottttt\"? Election night results were 48.2-46.1. Not significant.",
"Haha right. Oh well, I'm pretty sure its part of human nature. The group mentality. ",
"No my logic is just because Trump threw out some shitball at us poor people doesn't mean our companies we work for (who care about their employees) can't try to make the best of it. ",
"Well, one would argue that making health insurance mandatory – a highly controversial position – his first and top priority was an extremely divisive action. That the Tea Party movement was formed as a direct response to the healthcare mandate would seem to support this view. Further, while there were many opportunities to take a more bipartisan position, he always chose the partisan alternative. Rather than promoting general infrastructure development, for example, he chose to focus on green energy – specially credits and subsidies to companies like Solyndra with dubious business plans.",
"I approve of everything.",
"He's not saying Trump is a Nazi, he's saying people hating someone shouldn't make you like them, because maybe they deserve the hatred.",
"This is why we are winning in 2020 tbf ",
"Saw a truck today with a Trump bumper sticker and a “proud to be a deplorable” sticker.",
"And if you think that the initial agreed upon goals of the Paris Agreement was the ultimate end goal, you are not as informed as you think. The Paris Agreement was significant because it was the first time all the countries in the world agreed that something needed to be done, and to start working towards those goals. The initially agreed upon targets were never meant to be, nor advertised as, the final goals.",
"Cnn news source. Completely unbiased. ",
"The dead ones surprisingly couldn’t be reached for their opinions.",
"It’s actually r/The_Donald",
"well there's no use acknowledging it when he clearly doesn't want to have a discussion.",
"> do you honestly think she would have been any better?\n\nYes, and I wasn't a fan of her.",
"EDGY!!!!!",
"LMFAO",
"Oh thank goodness it was posted, there’s nowhere else to find this same damn discussion about trump, over and over and over ",
"You know Trump just signed a bill that will add over a trillion to the deficit? \n\nThe economy didn't magically start booming under Trump. Go bust out a graph of the stock market for the past 10 years. You will see a big drop right after Obama came into office. You will then see a very consistent and linear growth that has been maintained even though we weren't slashing regulations and handing out tax cuts for 8 years.\n\nI'm proud of adding regulations that protects the well-being of American citizens and our grandchildren.",
"But Trump's wicked smaht.",
"He absolutely won, it can you say he destroyed her when more people voted for her?",
"Oh no, it's retarded!",
"hes still ur god-emperor tho",
"What makes you think this being posted to a subreddit is ironic?\n\nThere is no self-contradiction or indication of the majority of the subreddit being stupid because the picture was posted.\n\nThere is, however, irony in talking about idiots in large numbers while supporting the man single-handedly ruining America's stance in the world because he has no real experience or qualifications and has never worked a day in his life and literally takes Fox News as gospel.\n\nYet he retains support because large quantities of people vote for their team and are happy as long as 'the others' are upset.",
"EDGY!!!!!",
"When it turned into being banned from social media platforms for holding and expressing those beliefs. ",
"You are the one who doesn't want to discuss. He gave you a very valid list and you blew it off.",
"unsub",
"Bye.",
"Depends, are you an ***ALLY?*** If not, we have some lovely reeducation camps that may interest you.",
"Yep and that’s YOUR experience. I grew up in a rural region in Oregon and moved to the urban centers of the state and can tell you there is just as much ignorance and unintelligent thought processes going on from people on both sides of the aisle. But that’s just MY experience.",
"They didn't say people didn't used to care, they said not caring used to be an option",
"That's because it wasn't. ",
"Hey man, no hate. Not understanding polling doesn't make you a moron. Statistics can be hard sometimes, especially when they're telling you how wretchedly unpopular your viewpoint is. ",
"Hey, at least your honest about your desire to see millions of people murdered. Now you just have to admit to yourself that your definition of fascist likely includes everyone that isn't useful to the implementation of your ideology. ",
"It's pretty obvious that more people care about politics now than any other time in recent history. The general population is the same age as it has been, but politics is everywhere right now because of Trump and his base. You can barely go anywhere without hearing about politics.\n\nHow often did you see a political picture at the top of this sub 2 or 3 years ago? How often did a post about US politics hit the front page? Hardly ever. Now it's multiple times per week. Are you suggesting that the entire demographic of reddit suddenly became middle aged white dudes (or whatever picture you have in your head of a classic \"guy who follows politics\") since 2015?\n\nThe population absolutely has been galvanized in one way or the other, as u/SmokePot said. I'd like to see what the voter turnout would be if there was suddenly a presidential election held today. I have no doubt it'd be record-breaking, especially in the younger brackets contrary to what you've said here.",
"Okay. Then if you do agree that this website is a place for discussion, I don't see where I went wrong by posting my opinion on a post about a political opinion. ",
"Just did a quick check for just the Philippines and itll cost almost $1000 to simply get there. \nThen add the costs of paperwork etc and the $1000 flight back, and thats only if the country of origin isnt hostile.\n\nBut refugees dont have that privilege.",
"Read the comment. \n\n>so many people say \"oh I want people to believe in whatever they want\" but as soon as someone has an opposing belief they say their ideas are stupid.\n\n*Ideas* are stupid. That’s literally how it works. \n\n\n",
"Ay bby, u want sum mod?",
"It's \"marginalizing\" someone to point out that they are talking out of their ass?\n\nPoor delicate babies.\n\nI don't know what sort of cause-and-effect you're talking about between Trump's actions (golf?) and the \"average american\" doing \"pretty well\" and I don't think you do either.",
"You're so defensive that he didn't even mention the Paris Agreement and you're defending against it",
"me too, thanks",
"I’ll give you a pass if you voted for him since he tricked a lot of gullible people pretty easily. However, if you’re still in his boat at this point, it’s more than likely you’re dumb.",
"Lol Republicans lost ALABAMA lolololll",
"Yes it was, Yes they do, and yes they are. ",
">This much damage control\n\nlmao",
"Yes thank you, I feel like a lot of people miss this. A lot of far-gone supporters will back their candidate no matter what. I have plenty of examples that come to mind with trump, but I’m sure if Hillary were in office it would be the same way. The populous overall needs to figure out how to be less partisan, but we’re so used to a two party system that for now it just kind of has to be that way",
"Muhh Russia (wait that didn't work, let's try calling him a racist)... muhhh racist!!\n\nLmao\n\nKeep in mind there is no proof he said that and many have come out saying that was never said so yeah.. u should know that mr professor.\n\nAnd guess what, it is a shithole. Fine people, but a shit hole nation.",
"It's your right to be wrong, and it's my right to point out you're an idiot for believing what you do.",
"I hear the exchange rate from XRP to Shitcoin is 1:1.",
"I wouldn't be surprised if they are legitimately proud. ",
"How many times is this gonna get reposted?",
"The electoral vote isn’t the majority of citizens though, you know that right?",
"the real irony is op siding with msm & the sjw ctrl left, and as one of them, being so disillusioned to understand the slogan is their kin.\n\nop is too busy daydreaming about his socialist utopia run by the Clinton cabal & Antifa.\n\noh the irony..",
"I've been informed that nothing we say on the internet matters anymore and nobody is allowed to be offended by words. Appreciate the source.",
"Be thankful he's not a super predator or something. ",
"Let’s bet honest, you wouldn’t. \n\nAll you bat shit crazy crusaders will never shut up haha. I sort of want him to win the next election just to fucking piss off you self righteous and sanctimonious cunts",
"Backpedaling? You can't just say someone's backpedaling when they're not. It doesn't make it true\n\nSo what do I mean? I mean Trump supporters (who STILL support him) are 1 of 2 things. Either they don't pay attention to politics or the news or pop culture or anything really; or they support an evil bigoted misogynistic... etc etc. He is unequivocally the worst human being that has been a position of power to make decisions for millions of others. \n\nHis supporters are either evil or misinformed or don't care. But intentions don't matter, the end effect does. It doesn't matter why you support him at this point. If you do, you are endorsing evil, so you are an insufferable cunt.",
"Do you want to tell me why I'm wrong about this? I put a lot up there, maybe you could highlight some points where you disagree and provide context as to why?",
"You got me. 13 actually. We learn long division in Mrs. Feffers class tomorrow.",
"Is there even a point to putting a bumper sticker of who you politically support on your car? I mean regardless of who it is, i dont see a positive at all. Im sure people dont just casually see one and change who they support",
"That's not what they said. They said it \"ruined all social media too.\" Many people consider Twitter to be fundamentally different now than before the election. ",
">gets upset that I insulted Trump supporters\n\n>calls me salty because I'm right and he can't fight it\n\nLol good one",
"Lol nice empathy. Again your self awareness is radiant.\n\nThe only reason you believe things to be so complicated is to give yourself an excuse and to tell yourself you're right even when you're not.\n\n\"I have empathy\"\n\nTrash human being. Shit head. I'm waiting for you to age and die.\n\nKeep lying to yourself about every facet of your life, it seems to have worked out for you thus far.",
"Do you realize the refusal to understand their emotions is probably why they are full of spite? Listening has to go both ways — calling someone stupid isn’t going to make them care more about your viewpoint. If all we ever do is call each other stupid, we’re never going to resolve anything.",
"Obama was sitting at 2%.. trump is pushing 4.\n\nYou kids were saying he was going to wreck the economy now you’re saying it’s Obama’s success. Haha i can’t keep up. ",
"Yeah you seem more of an infowars or breitbart kind of guy",
">my guy won\n\nLol, What a useful idiot. A perfect example of OP's post.",
"Obama says you're welcome",
"The final goals were the transfer of wealth from developed countries to developing countries.",
"Yeah, it's not like it was a binary choice guys! I voted Johnson!",
"I am wondering the same thing myself",
"I’m not a fan of Trump, but it’s tough to see that it’s misguided when our economy is currently booming. The stock market is at a high that we haven’t seen in years and years. Unemployment is down as well. That alone is something to look at. ",
"What exactly does that mean? Do you know what a libertarian is?",
"Yes, you can join all the dipshits from Hollyweird that promised to leave.",
"Username does NOT check out.",
"I was making a joke. Try not to take yourself so seriously Jesus. And how would it be racist in any way? You're normalizing racism with clearly not racist things. Which is worse than what he said in the first place.",
"The total overall had been unchanged since 1913 though. Ratio and total are completely different animals.",
"OP is assuming that Trump supporters are stupid, could it be that hey saw something in the man that you failed to see?",
">Implying those who voted for an everything but convicted criminal are smart",
"Place doesn’t equal race. I hope young Republicans have more to offer than what you’ve presented in this thread. Weak to say the least. Denying that a visa lottery program from shithole countries is moronic is ignorance or intellectual dishonesty. ",
"No. It is the media that's doing that and dumb people that will only get their news from the MSM and stories that are based on \"anonymous sources\" ",
"You think my beliefs are dictated to me by a cable news network? Oof, someone's projecting. ",
"-27 karma oh noessss the triggersaurus rex is a frail one.",
"I fully expect Romney to run in 2020 against Trump. I think that would be a widely popular move in the GOP as well. \n\nThat’s a good point about the DNC senate seats. In PA our D-Senator is getting tons of heat and there’s a decent chance he loses it now that the rest of the state (outside of philly and parts of Pittsburg) are confident that their vote actually matters now",
"hmm, sounds like something a chinese government official would say.",
"A few times I've posted a comment with this account, been downvoted to oblivion, and told I have a \"racist username\". I would then delete the post, repost it on my old account, and the post would be upvoted.",
"Okay, I understand that my post came off as a bit \"Pro trump\" but I meant to criticize exactly what you just mentioned. People bringing up Trump where it is not necessarily relevant. ",
"I was killed by this fascistic tax bill, for just one example. I might have lived, but once I found out how much diet Coke trump drinks, my heartbeats flatlined. ",
"I'm just saying that you need to reseach more about a topic before you make assumptions.",
"Also 13 year olds removed from politics would help too..... ",
"Didn't call them stupid. I said they don't understand how polling works. Never met a Trump supporter who has, but I think its kind of a defense mechanism. They cant admit their opinions are wildly unpopular so they stick their heads in the sand and claim fake news. ",
"You cant make a comment like you made and then act like the guy who responded to it is out of line. ",
"Irony? That’s called consistency, friend. Proof of Concept. ",
"Yes it is. It’s the majority of citizens by county. Which is then a winner take all system on the state level. ",
"Please describe in detail how Obama stole your rights.",
"Thank you for that perfect example of bullying. ",
"Honestly not true. I’ll give Obama the credit of keeping America “afloat” you could say for his first 4 years in office, but 8 years of 1% economic growth year after year for America is quite bad. If not for a significant amount of environmental disasters this year Trump was projected to hit 4% economic growth in his first year but instead hit 3%. The only factor that changed was there being a republican in the White House starting to implement republican economic policies. \n\nBut essentially you want to play the game everything that is going right for “blank” administration is all because of the “last blank” administration, and everything The is going wrong for this “blank” administration is all because of this “blank” administration, and probably the opposite when it is “your team” in power.\n\nFor example I’ll give ISIS 90% to Obama’s for his policies and all Trump did pretty much was continue those policies, but for the economy I’m giving it 90% to Trump. His regulation reforms and vast reduction in the corporate tax which he spearheaded were already being taken into play by companies and will continue to be a source of economic strength for the US going forward.",
"the irony to this special comment is that you are, if you think said driver of truck isn't.. ",
"#",
"It’s allowed only if it’s anti Trump. ",
"not seeing the irony",
"He's done a fuuuck ton before the tax plan. Take of the blind fold.",
"Is xenophobia wrong? Seems to be working just fine for the Japanese.",
"“Openly supports fascists and racists”\n\nSee here’s where you lose the crowd. The abuse of those two words by trumpophobes needs to stop. You’re not discussing anything meaningful when you say this sort of shit nor are you intelligently countering any of his policies. \n\nYou’re merely shitting in your hand and throwing it. \n\n",
"pretty much\n\nhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/2016_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg/2000px-2016_Presidential_Election_by_County.svg.png",
"Since when did Reddit go full retard SJW ?",
"By definition, there is no irony here. Downvote. ",
"He's the snowiest of the flakes",
"this also looks like r/news",
"That’s because they have dementia now",
"That is correct",
"Shit I haven't been here since Charlottesville, I bailed then due to all the political posts.\n\nHow about we make /r/pics kinda \"meh\" again?",
"Ever seen a Democratic caucus in Iowa?",
"They are just Nazi like. Except that some of them, like gorka, literally are nazis",
"People are pissed, and many feel powerless, so it spills everywhere",
"I don't like this echo chamber and I wouldn't enjoy that one anymore. ",
"Oh no, it's retarded!",
"Alright so let's start with the Salvadorans. They are in the US under TPS because of an earthquake that occured in the early 2000s. The catastrophic effects of the earthquake are now largely fixed, so it only makes sense that TPS for them is over. While Salvador is a very dangerous country, crime isn't covered under TPS, if it was, many countries like Afghanistan, Iraq or Mexico would have TPS. Again so I'm clear TPS is for catastrophic disasters. Not for bad economies or too much crime. Also the people under TPS have over a year to find a way to immigrate legally to the US, so they aren't being bused to the airport tonight or anything. ",
"You just described the internet",
"I’m sure they totally grew the woman in a lab just to make fake news. ",
"I think we would have had a totally different set of issues with her. Yeah, she may not tweeted out her inner most idiocities. But she came with her own baggage. neither was a good choice. Both were bad, I honestly don't think one would have been better than the other. Both Terrible, disgusting, despicable people. A pile of Dog shit covered in maggots would have been a better choice than both of them. ",
"None of those or anything he did were controversial because they were all things I agreed with.",
"Its entertaining to no end that you think you have some sort of moral high ground or are winning some troll battle You are nothing i cant be embarrassed by nothing\n\nYou're a fly buzzing in the ear of the world. No youre less than that. Youre a tiny spasm in an elbow that has barely gone noticed and forgotten about instantly",
"It’s ironic because you’re mocking that guy because you think he’s in a large group of stupid people, when he’s literally saying the same thing about you. Maybe it’s more hypocritical than ironic, idk. Btw I’m not saying you’re in a group of stupid people, I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy. ",
"Debt is tax deductible, but the assets carried when going into debt are not, and they balance out over time. Dividends are taxed, after profits are taxed.\n\nTrickle down economics works.\n\nIt has to do with what you said because you said major corporations profit margins are high and none of that goes to average American, which it clearly does",
"Original",
"You're really dumb to be forking out $160K for a bachelors. Unless you're going to med school it's not going to pay for itself. What's your plan? Hopefully land a $60K a year job so you can afford those $1600 a month student loan payments. \n\nI bet you out voted for old 3 homes Bernout. The loser who promised the world. ",
"Go ahead ",
"Sorry, you lose your right to be respected when you publicly support someone who backs white supremacists.",
"I'm sure you do fella, I'm sure you do. ",
"True. I suppose the battle has been lost a long time ago. ",
"This can be solved by better education in critical thinking and media literacy. Guess who doesn't want that kind of education to become commonplace and easily accessible to the masses? (I should say that in a large number of developed countries, this is already a pretty important part of the curriculum, I get the sense that is not the case in the US.)",
"I just wish Americans would shut up about politics, or at least stop being so one dimensional.\n\n“You Voted for Trump? = idiot” \n\n“You Voted for Hilary? = crazy liberal”\n\nIf you think people voted for Trump because they’re just “idiots” then you really have no idea what’s going on right now, objective reality is awesome 😎 😎 ",
"cunt",
"Lol you ignorant dingus",
"Lol. Not even a little racist. Weird that everyone is telling you it is though. \n\nIf I said your house was a shithole, would it be racist? ",
"r/pic is the solution!",
"the world wide web maybe\n\nI can still cling to my usenet",
"The mod's tag political posts for a reason, use your damn filters",
"I posted the diagnosis of the WH doctor and you said, “I have a hard time believing that.” Whether you realize it or not you’re claiming to know better than world class doctors. Trump is 10 pounds overweight, yet not one doctor has said he’s at any risk because of it. Your cognitive dissonance is cringeworthy.",
"Yeah thats not what irony is.\n\nCloser to hypocrisy, but he probably doesn't realize it so he can't really be hypocritical.\n\nThis most closely fits 'dramatic irony'\n\n> a literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character's words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character.\n",
"> and the stock market hitting decade highs.\n\nYeah because it's not like the stock market has been on an upward trend ever since the crash in '08. Oh wait, it has been. ",
"The electoral college predates democratic votes for president. Ironically, it was an institution created to ensure that illiterate farmers didn't vote for an incompetent demagogue because they didnt know any better. As the title of this post says, \"oh, the irony\"",
"I was making $0 a year when I voted for Trump when I was studying to be a structural engineer. Now I have been gainfully employed for over a year in a great economy. On election night I thought it would be fine if Hillary won, but that I hoped Trump would win. Turns out I made the right choice, because the construction economy is booming. \n\nI should also note that I will benefit at this point from democrats or republicans getting office in 2018. There will be a large infrastructure bill coming soon and that means I will benefit immensely as a structural engineer. By the time some of these projects roll out I will be getting my PE license. I voted for Trump because I knew he would do a better job, not that he was the best of two bad options. Trump was the best out of two good candidates.\n\nI'm an independent, I voted for Obama and I voted for Trump. I guess only morons vote for Obama though right? Maybe that's racist? Would a racist vote for a black man to be president over an old white man? \n\nWhen I voted for Obama I was called \"progressive\", \"thoughtful\", \"caring\", \"intelligent\", etc. When I voted for Trump I was called \"racist\", \"bigot\", \"deplorable\", \"unintelligent\", \"sexist\", etc. \n\nThe real morons are those that fall for the obvious bullshit. These are the people who truly are hateful. These are the people who confuse being against gay marriage as being homophobic. These are the people who confuse being gay or trans as being a pedophile. These are the people who confuse any disagreement to the liberal agenda with racism. These are the people who confuse wanting a secure country with bigotry. These are the people who confuse wanting a woman to have a choice as being murderers and not caring. These are the people who confuse not wanting to kill babies as being sexist and denying women's rights. These are the people who see a true, but offensive statement, as false and a sign of hatred. These are the people who cannot see things clearly, who cannot see things from the other side. ",
"Which speaker would you like me to name? Which congressional committee? Should I go back to Tip O Neil? Gingrich? Boehner, Hastert, Pelosi? Ryan? Armed Services, Judiciary, Ethics, Rules? You're brainwashed if you think that his election alone didn't help the economy. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you, because you're entitled to your opinion. However, saying that Obama is the reason for the latest explosion in the market, is downright foolish. As I said, I'm not a fan of Trumps rhetoric, or his tweets. I wish he would stop. I get my news from neither of the sources you cited. Don't just make assumptions about people you know nothing about. ",
"Its always existed, ever since good vs evil. North vs. South. Pro civil rights vs Jim Crow. And now, Justice for all vs Donald Trump. Good and evil. fore ever entwined in combat. ",
"Do we REALLY have to wait and see how the tax cuts shake out? Trickle-down economics is a myth that has never worked in the past and it's not going to start now. As far as the economy/stock market, and unemployment rates, you're attributing things to Trump which he could not have possibly facilitated in the first year of his term. The change in unemployment rates and the healthy stock market are a result of one of the longest periods of economic growth in our countries history, most of which occurred under the previous administration. \n\nNot to mention the repeal of the ACA which will cost countless poor people the only health coverage they'd ever had, despite claims that it wouldn't. ",
"/politics is a 24/7 marketing campaign for the independent and the guardian",
"I agree, however if you want to change someone's opinion putting them on the defensive is almost never successful. Try to ridicule someone into doing you a favor and see how that works out",
"Why does there need to be backlash? Because that statement creates the idea that someone should *fear* thinking a certain way. So you say “THINK WHAT YOU WANT BUT YER GONNA PAY FOR IT!!” \n\nI’m so glad America has turned into communist Russia. ",
"I thought you were wrong, but I looked it up and this guy is right. \n\nWhat he means is the Obama era policies and economic asphyxiating regulations Trump is shutting down.. ",
"Trump has always been a shitbag. Even when he was a democrat a few years ago. He was never relevant until you dumb fucks gave him power. Did anyone support Trump before he ran for president? There's no logic here.",
"The internet didn't give us a President who has a hard time distancing himself from *white supremacists.*\n\nThis has *nothing* to do with the internet.",
"Yup, just not in the right places. She could have used some of those Obama voters",
"Fixed, thank you.",
"Yes, he is the president. He is also the shittiest president in our countries history. ",
"Or they could just sit on thier porch and campaign from there... Oh wait...",
"He's some racist. He called black people super predators.",
"I was going for epic like your username, but whatever ",
"Muh collusion",
"Or maybe he did it to give the illusion that he's part of the reds. That is a pretty funny possibility too",
"Ok sure on a county basis, but he’s president of the country not the flyovers. He won, and the system is the system but he doesn’t have majority support, more people voted against him continuing the tradition of a republican not winning the popular vote in over a decade. ",
">bad words\n\nRiiiiight, because that's the problem",
"There's a difference between political beliefs and voluntary ignorance. What's being pointed out here is voluntary ignorance masquerading as political beliefs.",
"REEEEEEEEE!!!!\n\nBut seriously. I'm a scientist by profession. I'm smart by literally any measure. I voted for Trump and I can't wait to support him again in 2020.\n\nFind for me any group of American citizens who are *not better off* than they were 18 months ago...\n\n\"REEEEEEEEE those of us that are offended!!!!\"",
"Is r/pic on your list?",
"He does want to discuss, though. We want to know why, other than the fact that ostensibly the economy is doing great, and knowing how wholesome, honest, and intelligent (a genius, in fact) a president he is, you are still a fan? ",
"[They agreed to it, and promptly failed to meet milestones](http://www.iflscience.com/environment/only-three-eu-countries-on-track-to-meet-paris-climate-agreement-targets/) \n\nIdeas don't matter nearly as much as actions. ",
"You’re either trolling or you don’t know the meaning of controversial.",
"“He won the election so you cant critisize him”\n\nexcellent",
"I miss posts that were before the last election.",
"Looking down on people who participated in an election differently than you undermines democracy. ",
"> Use real words and punctuation.\n\nThank you! ",
"Not in MY Panama. ",
"He won because he is a shitty person?",
"I said this the last 500 times it got reposted. The top sticker definitely looks sticker slapped by someone.",
"Since most people are filtering out political subs, /r/politics shills are using default subreddits to push propaganda with admins and mods collusion. ",
"Thanks insignificant internet comment that I won't remember in 30 seconds, you really got me! Massive ego damage sustained! I'm going doooooowwwwnnnnnnnnn",
"yup i do miss that \"diplomacy\" policy, love trumps anti diplomacy policy though.........yuck\n\n",
">we could all assume the people whose job it is to govern would handle that shit. That time has passed.\n\nWelcome back to reality. Where'd you go?",
"Reddit's main demographic is young educated males. Young people skew democratic. Educated people skew democratic. Combine the two and you get a website that's anti-trump for the most part. It's not a bad thing.. Trump is one of the worst US presidents the world has ever seen.",
"Wrong there bud. 65 vs 62 million. And trump destroyed her in electoral college. Do you know why? That’s because she dominated two liberal garbage states that have tons of people. Do a little research before you spew lies. ",
"Humanities strike again :-) speaking of the irony LOL",
"Didnt vote for Trump but people like you with that mentality make me want to support him more and more. ",
"It has. It weeds out toxic people like yourself. \n\nIts like asking me to give empathy to nazis. Why when theyre trash and dont deserve it? My great grandfather killed those fuckers. So yeah, its pretty black and white to me that you dont deserve shit from me. \n\nCome. Rage some more about bullshit. Im sure me simply replying is gonna warrant yet another paragraph of more trash. ",
"Bruh, I think you put too much Lenin in your tea. ",
"What's really sad is it describes everyone.",
"Im pretty sure it was the allegations of sexual misconduct against the Republican candidate that came out after it was too late to change is what did it. ",
"Jesus, thanks Emperor Palpatine. ",
"Can I just make up conspiracies and arbitrarily attribute them to you, too?\n\nWhy do you deny the holocaust /u/beefman9?",
"> ,\n\nHere, I'll take that from you.",
"Today’s forecast looks a little shitty: the shit winds are blowing in from the North East bringing in an accumulation of shit. A shit watch is in place for any incoming shiticanes. \n\nBack to you Bob.",
"https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#297a72e77878\n\nWhat, “event,” is needed? It’s the natural, cyclical order of things.",
"Exactly, I’m not even a trump supporter, in fact I really hate the guy. But it’s stupid how people can easily resort to insulting people with opposing views, you know for sure that if this post had an Obama sticker instead it would’ve been mass downvoted. But since this is reddit it’s totally okay to call all trump supporters stupid, I’ll never understand.",
"the original commenter didnt say anything about nazis in his post, but ridinbiden said \"vote nazi\" please explain how tf he didnt call trump a nazi? I know reddit is liberal but theres no reason to downvote my comment, i invite anyone to provide proof to me that hes anywhere near a nazi",
"Oh, gotcha. Yea it’s just supposed to be representative. This state has x people so it has x voting power. \n\nMy biggest problem is each state is winner take all. I don’t like that. If we don’t want to do popular vote it should at least be representative. If a state goes 60/40 have the votes split 60/40",
"So was colluding with the Russians in order to gain the presidency ¯\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯ ",
"Trump campaigned on a tax plan that would be good for American business. The market reacted to his win.",
"I’m saying that both sides are being hypocritical, not just him. ",
"Roughly 12 Shrute Bucks and a few Stanley Nickles. ",
"Holy shit this is the talking point of the week from the shareblue kids.\n\nHis budget has nothing to do with the rage you’re seeing right now. \n\nDeregulation. \nTax breaks. \nExecutive orders. \n$250 billion in Chinese trade deals. \nTo name a FEW\n\nBudget has fuckall to do with macro economics in comparison. ",
"Definitely, because so many people think he's doing a great job so far, that's why his approval rating is so high right?",
"Sorry. Being called a nigger while attempting to shame shithole is very confusing. ",
"When people who make below 200k on average voted for Trump they just called them uneducated. It turns out that people who are poor tend to be uneducated. Saying a whole lot of poor people voted for Trump is a positive thing, they had to frame it as \"unintelligent people\" instead. ",
"Pan-a-Mac Anal",
"Username doesn’t check out",
">I posted the diagnosis of the WH doctor and you said, “I have a hard time believing that.” Whether you realize it or not you’re claiming to know better than world class doctors.\n\nNah, claiming to be skeptical is not claiming to be more knowledgeable than doctors. Nice try though.\n\n>Your cognitive dissonance is cringeworthy.\n\nOk.",
"Look, maybe everyone's taking this the wrong way. Maybe OP knew that this would get a craptonne of support and was actually referring to that! Smh, people jumping to conclusions these days",
"Woah woah woah, did you ask the mods ahead of time if a reasonable proposition was allowed here?\n\nThis is sounding a little to sane for a comment section",
"Such as?",
">However, Trump called Haiti a shithole.....oh no! Newsflash.....it IS a shithole. That's why people leave.\n\nNewsflash: the issue is him saying we should get rid of people from \"shithole\" countries, not the word itself. \n\n",
"Yeah no. Trump got elected because people are finally waking up to corruption and are sick of the puppets in office. Trump just called Haiti a \"shithole\". Awful as that is, it just hardens the fact that he's not controlled by anyone. He's draining the swamp one slimeball at a time. Trump 2020",
"check out the dollar",
"As neutral, albeit amused observer, you do realize that your comment is the equivalent of “I know you are, but what am I?”",
"You spelled /r/worldnews wrong. ",
"Oh, wait. Didn’t the GOP do that to Obama for something like, what was it... *9+ years* after his election?",
"The day I finally unsubscribed from /r/pics. ",
"And The_Donald is populist alt-right propaganda. \n\nSee how this works.",
"Ok, Ivan. ",
"The point being that people not speaking up allowed a, let’s call it “deplorable”, ideology to take control of the government and fuck shit up. \nAnd that we shouldn’t let it happen now. She’s also not the only one, just the easiest I’ve found.",
"I'm disappointed that no one mentioned shrute bucks or stanley nickels.",
"I didn't think I really needed to include the /s",
"I was not necessarily referencing you in my last statement. Just a general comment of the yelling contests U.S. politics currently are.",
"Yaaaayyyy! “People with differing opinions are idiots!” Wooohoooo! Politics!",
"Dems triggered lol ",
"I remember seeing a post some time ago by an Iranian(?) immigrant that was told constantly by reddit that The_Donald hated immigrants. \n\nThen he actually started posting and reading the stuff from there. \n\nIIRC he frequents there now. ",
"Oh fucking hell. Was it like this for the first year Obama was in office too?",
"two scoops small hands impeach",
"Kinda did underestimate them since they managed to get Trump elected.",
"Do you just generally assume that every person who ever talks to you on the internet is all the same person?",
"She's a double major in accounting and business. Next bullshit excuse. ",
"I wasn’t saying anything about the fact that you “discussed” it but rather your reasoning behind it. I don’t know how to make that any clearer",
"She did get more votes than Trump. So to say she had a chance at winning is not far-fetched.",
">a president swore in public\n\nI think it was supposed to be a private conversation.",
"I guess you missed all the salt mined here yesterday over the word shithole...",
"And being reopened. Seriously, it others did this, they would be in prison.",
"No you didn't",
"omg i know, never underestimate how stupid people are who don't watch Jon Oliver and Rick and Morty aka people who voted for DONAL BLUMF. he said SHITHOLE guys. i just CANT i am literally shaking",
"Tl;Dr\n\nEverything bad is Trump's fault\n\nEverything good is unrelated to him.\n",
"(I was being sarcastic)",
"No, not really.\n\nThis is one of those times in history when one group of people is definitely in the wrong.\n\nI tossed an edit in with the best-fit irony definition.",
"Wow! What branch was he in? Where did he get It? When? \n\nMy grandfather's brother got a purple heart. He died December 17, 1944 in Ardennes. I know it's no silver star, but it's something.",
"She didn't know how to use Twitter. \n\nLike, get with the times, m'lady. ",
"Shareblue talking point of the week ",
"Seriously, especially in light of Trump's recent comments, if you still support him, you're supporting an unabashed racist.",
"Yes, because everyone has the same values as you. ",
"Hey man, these days, it’s hard to tell. Ha.",
"You will be downvoted primarily by two groups of people:\n\n1) People who endorse Trump's racism and anti-intellectualism; and\n\n2) People who are so afraid of controversy and conflict that they would rather idly stand by while racism and anti-intellectualism becomes the norm\n\nI'm sick of people who say they don't want to hear about politics. Selfish. There are people who are directly impacted by these policies. People whose lives are harmed, turned upside down. But you don't want to talk politics because it makes you uncomfortable.\n\nScrew them.\n",
"You sure told him",
"Oil and coal are not the same thing. ",
"Why is every comment racist? Haiti is a shot hole, even Haitians agree. If we take in everyone that lives in a shithole country then the US becomes a shithole. Why is this so hard to understand ",
">calling people out for racism and bigotry is bullying\n\nK, snowflake go play pretend Nazi somewhere else",
"*switches to controversial*\n\nHold onto your butts, I'm going in!",
"Facepalm. ",
"Yeah it’s too late to dismantle it. Even if that did happen, insurance companies would likely still charge more citing high costs (which are an issue of course). At any rate, my philosophy is single payer or nothing. Mandates just piss off everyone and make the middle class suffer financially. ",
"There is quite a double standard for posting anything a pro conservative on the site. ",
"What about people like me who voted for Obama and Trump and would vote for both again if I could go back?",
"323,000,000, roughly 23% is under 18, so that leaves us 248,710,000. 25.32% voted for Trump, 26.48% voted for Hillary, roughly 48.2% (119,871,659) didn't vote at all that were in voting age and a very small number of those people voted for some other party because WE HAVE MORE THAN TWO STUPID PARTIES AND THE THIRD STILL COULDN'T EFFIN WIN... lol",
"Conservatism: 1\nWhatever you are: 0",
"Dude I literally have been using reddit for 2 years and had no idea you could do that. Pro tip",
"You mean with both statements being accurate?",
"I mean, I ultimately agree with that statement. I've not encountered much in the way of the extreme left in my area, but I've seen their kind online. I am surrounded by extreme right though. ",
"You’re just a sensitive little person swayed by our liberal drama queens over at CNN. ",
"Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Like the left's complete embrace of the most oppressive religion on the planet. These are the very same morons that have coexist bumper stickers on their cars. They demand tolerance for the intolerable. ",
"Blames Bush for 8 years of mediocrity and now takes all the credit a year after his legacy was ruined... Barry truly was the affirmative action hire president the way these leftist grade him on a curve:) ",
"Christ alive dude, what a display of willful ignorance...\n\nFor one, the Net Neutrality repeal \"hasn't passed congress\" comment is insane. You clearly have no idea what the issue even is if you think that response addresses it. \n\nThe vote was about FCC regulations. Not law. It doesn't have to \"pass congress.\" Proceedings are totally over. Congress was not and is not involved. Sure, Congress can change the law, but that would be a I totally different proceeding. \n\nIt's your responsibility as a voter to be informed about issues like this. Let your knowledge inform your politics, not the other way around.",
"What if I didn't support trump at first, but I do now? \n\nWhat tangible bad things have happened so far? ",
"Thanks Obama",
"ehhh didnt the trump tax bill help 85% of the people? isnt that on of the major factors people voted for trump?\n\nis it stupid to vote for your own, and the majorities improvement? because most peoples problems are fiscal. please enlighten me on the irony in this case. ",
"Except there's evidence of one and not the other\n\nKeep up",
"Do you not understand english?\nShit im getting for free: grants, medical etc,\nShe PAYS for. ",
"Ayy",
">silencing\n\nShame we all know about it and nothing has happened to them huh. ",
"Nope. Too many confounding factors and wayyyy too small a sample size. If we had macroecon figured out there wouldn't be a debate.",
"I don't know, you seem to have a few things eating you up inside. I wish you the best with your cynicism and condescending view of other people.",
"> and he understands money\n\nHow do people still believe this? He was such a shitty real estate developer that people wouldn't do business with him unless his dad co-signed deals, then after his father died, Trump squandered his inheritance and was a billion dollars in debt by the early 90s, which is coincidentally when he got into the casino business and turned things around. His first year in the casino business he violated anti-money laundering laws over 100 times. Trump has done an excellent job building his brand, but he's terrible with money. ",
"/r/LateStageCapitalism would like a word. They're safer than /r/TwoXChromosomes and ban people on the left and right. You can't compare an actual circle jerk only sub to one that likes to circle jerk as well as debate and troll outsiders.",
"Yes that’s exactly what I said...",
"Dude... we are in the same boat together. If he fucks up we all sink. We're not out to get his head, we just want him to behave like a potus and not offend countries who we will rely on in the future. Im from africa originally and trust me, the countries are not as advanced right now but in the near future they will shine. Africa has incredibly rich resources and with stable governance it will become a powerhouse. So he shouldnt piss them off now by offending them in such a petty way.",
"Absolutely not which is why I would never call people I don’t know “insufferable cunts.” Don’t you think that’s way over the top to call people you don’t know that?",
"That’s an interesting interpretation. But why doesn’t he think people in those places don’t have something to offer? What does Norway’s people have that other countries’ people don’t?\n\nPeople would probably classify Syria as a “shithole,” but Steve Jobs’s father was from Syria.",
"Haha don’t plan too much Denny , it might not come out right! ",
"what has Trump done to fuck up the government? And who didnt speak up? was all of hollywood and news not against Trump?",
"Good argument",
"Deficit is $460 billion for 2018. Less than Obamas last deficit of $503 billion. Looks like it's going down to me. Next. ",
"It's based on arbitrary divisions of population.\n",
"Trump has openly expressed his support for fascist dictators, is trying quell the free press, denounces any criticism, and is profiting off of his administration, and calls countries made up of non/white people shitholes. So you can believe whatever you want to believe, but I’ll respectfully disagree. ",
"Well in his opinion, you are on the side that is definitely wrong. ",
"That was sarcasm. I'm in that same group. This place is turning into a shithole.",
"You mean hati mr trump?",
"Exactly as if it’s all bullshit and reality is somewhere deep in the middle.",
"more social justice extremist propaganda. ",
"Indeed it is for it doesnt show the TRUTH. Things that cloud the truth are WRONG. Things that are EVIL are wrong. For example, is it wrong to fear new things? Not nessessarily, it could mean you take proper precautions. BUT for xenophobia it means shunning outside ideas, even if they are better than YOUR ideas. that pushes away the TRUTH. ",
"The divisions began under Reagan and got horrible under Clinton -- Newt and Rush killed America better than any Russian nuclear strike could have.",
"[Got u fam](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achievements-11-obama-legacy-items-repealed/article/2644159)",
"You mean the 30 years of manufactured Republican smears?",
"Lol you cared enough to type up that little diatribe tho so clearly I hit a nerve. \n\n\nSorry I couldn't make my comment a safe little hugbox for your toxic opinions.\n",
"Please tell me about who you voted for and how it made a difference? They were all jokes.\n\nDumbass. ",
"I agree. Thank you for confirming my opinion sir. ",
"Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner! Only 5 posts down before the fun that had risen to the top of this thread morphed into juvenile screeching from a partisan trying to push his narrative!\n\nTell him what he's won, Jonny--\n\nSHAME - if he were capable of feeling it!",
"Wrong",
"Let me guess. You voted for [this thing.](https://imgur.com/gallery/4O9to) ",
"Have some goddamn respect for your elders ",
"http://www.cnn.com/election/results/president\n\nFrom a liberal source too. Just for you. ",
"just making sure you realize how ridiculous you sound",
"Other countries (#notall, you guise) are shitholes. Haiti is a shithole. \n\nThe time for politely denying reality is over.",
"How is that any better than when they say it.",
"Found the Trump supporter who doesn't believe in helping refugees. That's cool, thats your moral standard I suppose.\n\n",
"The country where the majority of people aged under 30 have never had a sexual encounter, and people work 50+ hours a day like it's normal?",
"Actually, yes.",
"His opinion and the truth are far removed.\n\nTrump is and will be objectively bad for the country, regardless of which direction people want it to go socially, he is actively harming everything.",
"Weird. I'm the opposite.",
"Good work, champ. What about that bill he signed that's going to add over 1 trillion to the deficit though?",
"Sorted by controversial to find the triggered maga chuds, did not disappoint",
"Cry more.",
"Pretty sure as a structural engineer my income would go up more from a trillion dollar bill going directly into my industry than I would from 4% GDP growth a year for 8 years. I guess with Trump I can have both, so you may have a point. ",
"No but assuming somebody is an idiot because they are a trump supporter is. ",
"I get your sentiment but I dont think any liberals wanted Clinton either",
">Supporting a certain candidate doesn’t make you stupid.\n\nIf that candidate has a consistent history of making baseless extraordinary claims in addition to scamming his business partners and the people he peddles his wares to.\n\nAnd then that same candidate campaigns baseless extraordinary claims and promises that he will not scam the voters he is peddling his candidacy to.\n\nAnd those people vote for him.\n\nThose people are either:\n\nA.) Lacking the street smarts sniff out a con AND the book smarts to be a stuffy liberal.\n\nB.) Sucked in by an appeal to racism and bigotry. Also all of the above.\n\n>Also, I thought that the left was against stereotypes, I guess not...\n\nYou have guessed correctly.\n\nThe moment an ideology becomes oppressive due to skin color, religion, genitals, language, or sexual orientation - the left does not give a flying fuck about it.\n\nI'm glad you learned something.",
"My man. This is so quick-witted. Words cannot describe how much effort you put into this comment. You, sir deserve a Nobel Prize. Only intellectuals can truly understand the complexity of the “Reeeeeeeeeeee”. I have *never* seen something alike.",
"Arent blue states more educated than red states? ",
"If you can back it up with evidence, it's never wrong to point out that someone has a wrong opinion.",
"generally, you're right, but when the President doesn't have the self-awareness or control to not say something like this in front of a room full of people, it's a concern.\n\nAnd it's not as though this is isolated. ",
"This guy has a fairly good point, not sure why 115+ people are triggered.",
"The unfortunate reality is that until we have leadership that works to close divides, instead of grow them, with each new comment and tweet the internet is seeded again with another incentive to be divisive. \n\nYes, we should all take more responsibility for our actions. Yes, we should work to find more common ground and not just hunt for gotcha politics and conversations. Yes, we should be looking for compromise. Definitely.\n\nHowever it’s this unfortunate time we’re in right now with a very clearly divisive leader which is making it quite difficult for any social group to find the space to remain neutral. \n\nI wish it would all change. Trump could help enormously by just being quiet. But so long as he refuses to make the obviously correct choice of less word salads... it’s up to us. And that means we have to be comfortable when people are divisive. We have to learn to let people yell, on both sides, and listen, and if we want more peace, then we create it. \n\nIt’s on our shoulders too, to learn to tolerate. Because, the truth is, if we refuse to see ANY of the political noise, it’s the same bad decisions of reinforcing our own biases that got us to today’s reality. ",
"Lol. ✌😗",
"If people seriously let one Reddit comment get them that heated, then they’re kind of dumb. ",
"Grow more slowly in a 8 year period that it ever has before lol. ",
"OP: I'm very smart.",
"Just like no real Scotsmen, right?",
"Ok, I’ll play along. So you’re, “skeptical,” of the official diagnosis of the WH Doctor AND you’re diagnosing him as, “obese,” from your keyboard and making outrageous claims about the President’s lifestyle like you’re FLOTUS and spend time with him or something. Just sad, honestly.",
"65 million from 50. 62 million from 50. I'm not wrong. ",
"person youre replying to is obviously being sarcastic. saying the electoral system is flawed because candidates can win by x amount of votes and still lose an election. \n\nsay new york for example: NYC heavily swings the state to blue, so all of the blue votes that go past the amount of reds in the state are essentially useless because the state is already blue.\n\nthe person youre commenting to though is jabbing at the fact that this is an actual thing, and that whole states with less population than a city can effectively have more power. \n\nyes every state has their number of Representatives, but also their Senators. effectively this gives the large-landmass-low-population states big voting power in presidential elections. \n\nin the 2016 election, 174,000~ people voted for Trump in Wyoming. this turned the state red. that means 3 electoral votes, from only 174,000~ people. compare this to connecticut, where 900,000~ people voted for Clinton, but only got 7 electoral votes.\n\nover 4x difference in votes, but 2x the representation in the college.\n",
"Enough to trigger you into 10 minute responses. Free speech.. at 6 comments an hour. \n\nGod help us if a political organization with limitless funding did nothing but stifle opposing views on reddit by downvoting them into not being able to respond.\n\nWait...",
"So because money was poured into advertising one candidate over the other, that means... what? That everyone who sees the daily idiocy of the Trump administration has been paid off? Do you really, truly believe that? Do you think millions *weren't* thrown into supporting Trump as well? I mean, hell, Milo Yiannopoulos was one of the first mods of T_D. \n\nGreater than half of the votes were for the other candidate. Trump has the [lowest approval rating](https://i.imgur.com/NMc9d1D.png) of [any president](http://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx) in modern history. Work with me here... isn't it in the *realm* of possibility that the anti-Trump posts are from the people who... you know... don't approve of him?\n\nWhen you look out onto the world, seeing the fact that the vast majority don't approve of Trump, seeing the fact that he has an insanely long list of issues (seriously, it's like he's *trying* to make the worst decision most of the time), seeing that he has made America a laughingstock in the world, seeing that he is openly flirting with nuclear war, and seeing the fact that even *his own party* doesn't agree with him or his agenda half the time... why would you ever expect pro-Trump posts?\n\n> I don't like Trump\n\nIf that's true, you should already understand all of this.\n",
"Haha- I feel like I’m in the schoolyard at recess. What other hurtful, witty, fascist sayings can you come up with?",
"Someday you will mature and find the world isn't black and white.",
"Woe is me... my taxes are being reduced!\n\nBut we still need to do something about illegal immigration. ",
"This comment section is likely to be equally as ironic for the same reasons.",
"This guy poops economics. ",
"This is like the depressing olympics,",
"stupid people can be found anywhere that's why Hilary and Trump were our choices to begin with.",
"The irony of democracy.",
"The Taxed Enough Already Party (TEA Party) started 6 months before Obama was elected, and organized to undermine him because it was obvious he was going to win...",
"> I agree, however if you want to change someone's opinion putting them on the defensive is almost never successful. Try to ridicule someone into doing you a favor and see how that works out\n\nFunny how no one ever says \"don't say mean things\" in response to people being called 'libcucks' or whatever",
"cocaine",
"The one where one of the people is not an American and is breaking the law?",
"You mean you don’t want underprivileged minorities to go to college for FREE? What are you some sort of racist? ",
"What religion is that? ",
"I think we should trust this guy who hates CNN - every single one of his posts on Reddit is defending Donald Trump. Every one.\n\nIt's clearly the defining mark of his life.",
"That's not what happened. ",
"We totally agree. What are we arguing about in the other threads?",
"I don't need to meet flat earthers or creationists to know they're morons. ",
"You’re entitled to your own opinions not your own facts. There’s a difference. ",
"defend them then xur sjw? your blanket msm regurgitated accusations that is: __________\n\nif you had a decent job & a 401k you wouldn't be daydreaming about Clinton cabal socialist utopias & being offended by bad words while Islam runs a slave trade in Libya or while families eat cats in Venezuela.\n\ntwo genders\ntwo scoops\ntwo terms",
"Make me mod too",
"How old are you? 12?",
"\"your side\".. it's hilarious how Americans think politics is like a sports game where you have to pick one of two \"sides\"",
"65.8 million from 50? Sorry I didnt add enough significant figures for you, lmao",
"It’s not criticism of just their thinking though, it’s the insistence that if someone doesn’t believe what you do they are misguided and wrong. There are people that believe Trump is not perfect and says the wrong things at the wrong but ultimately will accomplish want they want in government. Everything the guy does gets torn apart my the media right away, like the shithole thing, which was reported secondhand.\n\nI’ve never even liked Trump, but the insistence that people are racist/wrong/misguided/stupid if they do is unhelpful to the growing divide in the nation. That narrative hardens people’s anger. I know a lot of very well educated Trump supporters and while I don’t believe some things things they believe, I admit there’s some possibility what they believe is true. In other instances things I want or think are best are simply different from what they want or think is best, and that’s just a difference in values. To say anyone who supports him still is wrong as a blanket statement, without any specifics is not at all objective, and to point that out goes along with classical liberalism just as much as the initial criticism of Trump supporters.",
"I love it when people use the words \"virtue signal\", it tells me right away what hateful corner (shithole?) they wondered over from.\n\nYou ever think that maybe people are just actually pissed about the current administration and need to let steam off about it, since it's another 10 months till we can vote about it?",
"That’s subjective...",
"It's funny how you're the one who seems mad though. ",
"You need Jesus my dude",
"He thinks that your opinion and the truth are far removed. ",
"Why is that ironic?",
"None of those things make his administration fascist or racist. \n\nThat’s about as intelligent as saying that giving a homeless person a dollar makes you a communist",
"The word shithole isn't the problem with what he said. It's the rest of what he said.",
"Fake facts bruh\n\nReee and all that good stuff",
"Sort front page by Top>Now and comment a stupid joke or relevant gif on a bunch of posts for mad karma. ",
"Oh fuck off.",
"Isn’t that a quote from Adolf Hitler? ",
"Literally knew it was gonna be a trump joke because know one knows how to make any other type of joke.",
"> Congress has to vote on it.\n\nNo. they. do. not. Net neutrality has been repealed. There is no longer anything stopping ISPs from implementing anti-net neutrality policies. I work in the tech sector.\n\n> AGAIN...citation needed. There is no proof. I live in a world of facts.\n\n> This document proves that Russia did meddle with US elections. It's true. \n\nYou realize how fucking stupid you are? In one sentence you say there is no proof Russia toyed with our elections, then a paragraph later you say it's true.",
"Commies rule",
"Reddit law.",
"No, the goal was to get everyone to agree upon the problem, and then for the wealthier countries to help poorer countries move past cheap and dirty energy sources for the benefit of the entire planet, both in the form of avoiding large, negative climate change events, and to preemptively avoid future energy scarcity-based conflicts. It's amazing the neocon/conservative agenda is so focused on dominating the middle east for energy needs, while at the same time shunning opportunities to preempt the need for that sort of energy dominance. The incongruence is as stark as it is baffling.\n\nIf paying poor countries to curb their pollution so that we don't face massive future droughts, super storms, hurricanes and large marine life die off, I say it's money well spent.",
"or you might be seeing irony that isn't even there",
"So you agree that it going up is good? Great, sounds like Trump is continuing the positive trend. Job well done.",
"I *knew* this shit tasted hella spicy ",
"Nobody cares about the TRUTH, everybody wants to be RIGHT.",
"https://xkcd.com/1939/",
"It's pointless to even talk to him at this point. He won't read it then tell you all about how you're wrong about something he clearly lacks understanding of. But that's a common thing among Trumpers it seems.",
"Fuck no, I chose to not support any corrupt politician. Which means definitely no trump or hillary, hopefully you can realize they are both bad people who only care about the interests of the super rich. ",
"He's still in his edgy teen years, give him time.",
"Found the fucking liberal...",
"he went two scoops too far",
"I didn't call them idiots. I said they dont understand how polling works because they dont. Why are you calling them idiots for not understanding polling? That's just rude, man.",
"You two should date. ",
"No, you fucked that sentence to death and then edited it without saying anything because you're butthurt about getting called out. Edit: speaking of which, why did you capitalize liberals?",
"Lol cause conservatives LITERALLY never did that with Obama. ",
"Yeah, a tax cut to corporations that allows them to do horrible shit really is great for... corporations. Weird. Lemme know when you see some of that money.",
"> It typically takes under 3 years for the US economy to adjust to changes a new president makes.\n\nWildly false and based on nothing but conjecture. We don't have macroecon figured out. Human behavior is extremely difficult to predict.",
"It is the only thing that is relevant. Your own idol said so.",
"So you're basing our raging economy off of the past three months lol",
"> low unemployment rates, higher returns on investments, and the stock market hitting decade highs. Sigh.\n\nThanks Obama!",
"Holy fuck it's amazing how quickly everyone seemed to forget this. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump didn't win the election. Clinton lost the election. \n\nYes I hate Trump. Yes I voted for Clinton. No, I never expected her to win because I could see how awful her campaign was. ",
"None of what you just wrote addresses the question I was asked. I was asked \"who has Trump hurt?\"\n\n200,000 Salvadorans are going to have significantly worse lives because of Trump. Question answered.",
"To say it started with this leadership is very disingenuous... Much of the reason Trump was elected was because Obama was the most divisive president in history (until Trump of course). Now we're basically in a huge one - upsmanship game over who can fire up their side to hate the opposition more... ",
"Where is the irony?",
"Is that the issue? Were you in the room to hear him say it? ",
"The EPA is useless?",
"Voted for Bill twice and Obama the first time. Hillary is the reason Trump is office. ",
"Except the majority of people liked the things Obama did while in office.",
"Well, if we’re going back that far, I’d say we should start with LBJ in Vietnam and Nixon and the war on drugs. Both of these policies created deep cultural divides which have only since worsened.",
"We're about to be karma stomped but you're right. When it's even vaguely sexual, sure, fall back on the low effort unzip meme. But in this case, it really does make no sense. ",
"Respect is earned. Trump had earned impeachment",
"Well this joke is about as fresh as George Washington’s spinning corpse. ",
"K bye",
"It absolutely can.\n\n>Also, I thought that the left was against stereotypes, I guess not...\n\nPeople on the left are generally against gender/race based discrimination, I don't know why conservatives think leftists believe in tolerance of anything and everything, we don't. ",
"Teenager myself, but know not to be a shithead ",
"You don't have to have money invested to gain from our economy finally going what it should be doing. Any asshole with a 401k, so anyone with a full time job, is benefiting quite a bit from this. The previous administration didn't give a shit about people having a solid portfolio for retiring but this one does. Not saying everyone trump does is good because a lot of it isn't, however, our economic boom, which is completely his doing, is fantastic for anyone that's working a decent job. ",
"Haiti is a shithole country, because we've helped make it a shithole country. France under napeoleon did too. Lots of other countries helped Haiti become a shithole. Haiti's government help cement that. Not Haiti's people. Don't spit on the people.\n\nTrump is a jackass for spitting on the Haitian people and the hard working ones that come here to **GET OUT OF THE SHIT HOLE.**\n\nYou can't make America great again AND stop (illegal) immigration. Seriously, it's paradoxical.",
"I love how you just know exactly what I think without ever meeting me.",
"I'm aware. I was commenting on the the obvious coal industry lie we've already witnessed. Oil industry growth was far less in 2017 than in 2015. https://www.strategyand.pwc.com/trend/2017-oil-and-gas-trends ",
"Is it though? A lot of economists worry about their ability to fund pensions funds with tax revenue 20 years from now, a consequence of a populace with many retirees and too few productive workers.\n\nThe Japanese government has called population decline the biggest threat to Japan, and keep in mind that Japan has North Korea as a neighbor right across the sea. That says a lot.\n\nhttps://www.pop.org/japanese-government-calls-population-shrinkage-biggest-challenge-economic-growth/",
"Oh No A political post!!!! Let's all get cunty. ",
"You want to somehow blame that on xenophobia now?",
"Aaaand we're back to the circle jerk",
"You’ll always have two elites approved from the club..\n\nUnless an outsider comes along with enough money to circumvent the club system. I mean, imagine how the bought and sold club media would treat that person... ",
"I agree President Trump needs to definitely tone it down A LOT. He has potential but needs to get off of Twitter and buckle down and quit running his mouth. I agree that both sides were screwed either way. Let’s learn our lesson next time around.",
"Your President can't speak two sentences coherently and you think he knows anything about running a country? He couldn't even run a casino lol. Classic ~~American~~ Republican, ignorant yet arrogant. \n\nEdit: Sorry, I know all Americans didn't vote for this joke of a silver spoon businessman.",
"It really is sad. These liberals are just so far gone. Don’t even bother trying to save them. It’s impossible. \nThey lost. They won’t ever stop screaming at the sky until they get their entitled way. \nBut instead of acting civil like republicans do. We had a dem in office for 8 years and the fucking bastard fucked so much shit up. Now that trumps in office they credit Obama for it. How does that even make sense? But then they quickly pick apart the things they see fit and criticize trump. \nIt’s ignorance. And there is no cure for blind stupidity. Just let them continue to wail around and show just how mentally unstable they are. It’s only bringing more people over towards trumps support. I am one of them. \nFuck the left. They don’t want freedom and a peaceful world. They want their pockets filled and to watch the world squirm as it burns. As far as I’m concerned these fucking blue pill commies can get locked up along side HRC. ",
"Approximately Two shrute buck or 40 Stanley nickels per Soros. ",
"You mean states? Each state is its own government.",
"People who didn't vote for a criminal who was actively trying to subvert American democracy are idiots, huh? Trust me, I'm not a huge fan of Trump but you honestly have to be deeply indoctrinated to believe that Clinton was a better option.",
"Hey I've got a sincere question for you. As a scientist, does it disappoint you at all the way trump has disregarded science in forming his opinions and beliefs?",
"His economic policy hasn't even taken effect yet. Once we're a few years down the road, we'll know how its going.\n\nIt took Kansas several years to end up in the shitter as well, once they went full retard. But it invariably did, just like the whole US economy will in the next few years.",
"TIL the budget is the sole driver of the economy.\n\nThe world ain't black and white no matter how much you wish it were.",
"The park shrinkage, selling of my informantion, coal deregulation, and student loan changes have all been immediate. Though regardless of that I actually like to think about my future and care about it. It scares me that so many people have the attitude of fuck it it's not directly negatively effecting me right now. Maybe we wouldn't have so many people dying of heart disease or having diabetes if they cared about what they put in their bodies. Or so many people on welfare and in debt if people balanced their budget instead of just putting it on a credit card. Or were happy about short term tax breaks compared to long term corporate tax breaks. Successful people such as trump care about how things will effect them and their families in the future. I personally think people with your attitude in both parties are why we have such a massive spending deficit, horrible grade school education, and economic crises.",
"and hey, if your comment does get downvoted, it'll be because you underestimated the power of stupid people in large groups!",
"I don't have a stock option either. I do have a retirement account, like most people have available to them. It is doing great. ",
"> Ok, I’ll play along. So you’re, “skeptical,” of the official diagnosis of the WH Doctor AND you’re diagnosing him as, “obese,”\n\nNah, I'm not \"diagnosing\" him. I'm making a observation that he's really fucking fat.\n\n>and making outrageous claims about the President’s lifestyle\n\nHe's literally a vitalist who doesn't believe in exercise. He's the President of the United States, and everything he does is scrutinized to death. The fact that he doesn't exercise outside of walking around a golf course is a widely known fact, not an \"outrageous claim\".\n\n>Just sad, honestly.\n\nOk.",
"He didn't, and it isn't, but hey bro at least *you're* happy right? \n\nKiller advice too, really on point. They're just giving away those \"high-paying trade jobs\" like hotcakes, especially if you're down and out and just need to get yours to turn things around. \n\nShit I'm gonna go get mine right now! What the hell was I waiting around for, working two jobs and going to night school? Thanks for your wise words of encouragement friend. Today is a new day. ",
">she is a politician\n\nPlease explain how Trump is an improvement in any way over politicians. ",
">HATED Bush. Both of them. Loved Clinton. Loved Obama. LOVE TRUMP.\n\nSo you decide to abandon any semblance of a political philosophy. Cool. \n\n.... pro tip. You voted for Bush. Trump is Bush on steroids. Literally any policy he has is Bush's, only worse. \n\nHe makes Bush look depressingly competent. \n\n>Okay... that's laughable. Obviously we have different thoughts about what stable means. But that's fine. I'm an economics professor, so I might see things a bit different than you. No big deal.\n\n.... the fuck?!\n\nWere you an \"economics professor\" living under a fucking rock in 2008?!?\n\nWere you in a coma? Cause I kinda have a hard time thinking any \"economics professor\" has a memory of less than eight fucking years. \n\nYeah, sorry, I remember 2008. I remember watching the market tank. I remember us needing to bail out a collapsing financial market. And I remember the us already being in deficit spending because of Bush before then. \n\nBut yeah sure tell me how little Obama did compared to the fucking nightmare we were in.\n\nTeach me oh \"professor\".\n\n>Wow, you've got a whole bag of assumptions. To answer your question, no, I don't. I just don't agree that the economy was even close to stable under Obama. Which is fine.\n\n... so you instead think Bush's economy and eventual collapse is so much wiser right?\n\nGiven.... that's pretty fucking explicitly what we just passed.... again.\n\nThis feels exactly like the type of song and dance I went though in 2000.\n\nAnd it'll likely result in exactly the fucking same too. Fuck. \n\n>Uh, no. I don't think that at all actually. Holy fuck you are an assumer LOL!\n\nWell what the fuck else has he actually fucking **done**? Cause you seem to have no coherent political ethos here. \n\nBig shocker....\n\n>Actually, yes! Wow you finally got ONE THING right! Yes! I love seeing the disgust of the haters. It truly truly pleases me.\n\nAh. There's the ethos. \n\nSpite. Fuck the economy. Fuck other citizens. Fuck civil rights. But fucking spite? Awesome. \n\nYeah fuck that myopia. An \"economics professor\"? What you a child genius too? 14 year old professor?\n\n>I think that you pretty much don't know shit about my beliefs aside from a whole bunch of assumptions. That is what I think. But hey, this was fun. I think I'll move on to someone who doesn't make a lot of assumptions. Have a great night.\n\nExcuse me for thinking you had a political ethos or cared about anything beyond spite. \n\nI figured you would care about logical consistency especially from your politicians but I can see now that was a gross and disgusting overestimate of the intellectual honesty of people who admit to loving Trump. \n\nI keep making that mistake and it's really really fucking stupid.\n\nNone of you have ever come even remotely close to expressing a coherent political ethos. Expecting anything else is just plain fucking idiotic. \n\nMy mistake, you won't get the benefit of the doubt again. ",
"Ho ho ho! Accuse me of being young! Solid jab, sir! I don't think I could survive such proficient character assassination! The wit is too much!",
"Trump is the most unfairly chastised president their has ever been, but he is also the most fairly chastised president. \n\nMaybe if people just focused on the stuff he should he chastised for rather than this petty point scoring ",
"I know I’m going to get downvoted for this but I don’t care. I think trump is bad...",
"Without him, you wouldn't be here, so that's respect already earned.",
"What's worse? Not knowing how polls work or losing badly after being projected to win for weeks?",
"Whoever convinced you that your success relies on others failure really did you a disservice. Bringing back millions of jobs is some how bad? No. You just need a big bad guy to blame your problems on.",
"LA smog has gradually decreased since the 80s",
"Yes I almost mentioned that an honestly selfish argument is the only legitimate one I could personally think of. I have strong disdain for those people, but I'll respect their honesty and the logic behind it.",
"Yeah, use the word Commie (inappropriately, might I add) when you support a shill for Putin. Genius reasoning there, really.",
"What is “an average American”",
"You don't think the average Joe has a 401K or IRA or defined benefit plan?",
"Right.\n\nPeople with *that* mentality already support him. It's almost like he resonates with impish, juvenile mouthbreathers. \n\nIf you feel the need to lie on the internet, at least make it believable.",
"Bush deserved all the blame he got",
"So, reading through those two articles, did you notice that both said “according to a new study,” but the only link to an actual study was in the second article? that link was to a study done by a private company called Weath X, a marketing research company, that will only allow access to the study if I pay for it. Furthermore, the articles seem to be saying that the millionaires not only didn’t consider themselves wealthy growing up, but wouldn’t consider themselves wealthy unless they had about 5 million in assets, about 2 million more than the average. How can you claim that they are “self made” if you don’t actually have any information about their demographics?",
"0% Obama's doing, 0% Trump's doing. Get woke, pls.",
"Define educated. If you mean in which states more people can solve for x in an algebra equation, then yes, blue states are more educated. If you mean people who can do manual labor and know how to live off the land, then red states are. All about perspective.",
"Beat me to it.",
"Shhh! Don’t burst the poor kids fantasy. It’s all he’s got going for him. ",
"It is, you're right.",
"My reasoning behind it was that I had an opinion that I wanted to share. Admittedly I was a bit ignorant in my haste. But I don't know how I can make THAT any clearer. What would be the solution to this in your mind? ",
"It's funny that Trump supporters might actually be happy with what is happening... when it does not benefit a single one of them in any way whatsoever. ",
"Good thing she didn't then.",
"Cool. Reddit cares. ",
"Standard Reddit groupthink.",
"\"Happy holidays\". Please don't get triggered.",
"Sorry that you took it the wrong way. I just think this whole back and forth mockery is stupid.",
"the Irony is thick with this one..\n\nlet's go with Trump is mentally retarded & then face the reality that he's done all he's done.\n\nand then there's you. \n\na gazillion spots below a retarded billionaire that say's mean things. ",
"None of that is remotely true except in the fevered minds of the right wing media circus. \n\nIf any of what you state was true then the Clintons would have been indicted. She was investigated and investigated and investigated, and nothing at all was ever found to be true.\n\nBut the investigations themselves were enough to convince those who already disliked her, that she was corrupt or criminal. \n\nRumors might constitute your reality, but they cannot replace objective truth. . ",
"Wait, your Great Grandpa was already fighting WW2 during Pearl Harbor? Was he a Nazi?",
"What's scarier is the stupidity of educated individuals in large groups.",
"Saying that their beliefs or ideas are stupid is not the same thing as saying that they are stupid. Not seeing this distinction could mean that you are stupid, but I'd wager that you just misread (or read what you wanted to read in the post). A lot of flame wars start with such misunderstandings.\n\nIdeas should always be criticized and rejected if untrue our misguided.\n",
"I'm sorry that Trump is a raging manchild. ",
"Well things are going well right now and I’m grateful for that. I’m pretty sure that Wall Street and all of the countries trading with us are pretty happy too. ",
"I suppose we'll see once the Mueller investigation is concluded. \n\nI will add though that curiosity got the better of me, and it seems that the majority of your comments on this site are devoted to right wing damage control, I guess some people are just that passionate 😂",
"Hope you’re not expecting an answer from an adult here...",
"Whataboutism ",
"We're going to Africa?",
"At least t_d doesn’t pretend to be nonpartisan, you know what the bias is when you enter it. ",
"That’s more ironic than this post.",
"Dru,pf peopel are stupid , Epic trolling ",
"Hitlers dick did 911",
"I’ve never seen this",
"He created a billion dollar business. According to the stock market from THE DAY HE WAS ELECTED, it’s 100% his doing. Unemployment is at an all time low. Consumer confidence is the highest ever. Minority unemployment is the lowest ever. $250 billion in trade deals with China. Renegotiating NAFTA. Illegal crossings down 70%. \n\nThat’s just a few things. Give me reason to believe he isn’t doing s good job that’s not emotional shareblue jargon. ",
"It's simple, we must kill the Internet ",
">Hillary was probably one of the most corrupt officials to run for office.\n\nYou must be very concerned about the way Trump is profiting from the presidency then, right? \n",
"Yo back that last part up dude...we arent all retarded ",
"> paying poor countries to curb their pollution\n\nThat money would just line up their politicians pockets and they wouldn't do shit with it. They are too corrupt to function. Shitholes.",
"Traditions also have value even if inefficient. Traditions seem to have lost all value in the west, even if they aren't \"evil.\"",
"The Tax Overhaul, Champ? Depending on who you talk to, a lot of that money is going back into American pockets in tax cuts. Like I said, tell me about the $10 Trillion that Obama added. ",
"Dramatic stories that someone could relate an image to, mostly. That, and pictures of words.\n\nOr do you mean, \"What is its purpose?\" It's kind of like a cow magnet for the rest of the site. ",
"I said exactly the opposite that. People should not fear their way of thinking. If they openly proclaim it, especially if it’s a controversial opinion, they should just be prepared of others question them about it. It’s literally the antithesis of communist Russia. ",
"Name one thing Trump has done that benefits you in any way. Unless you're rich a.f. you've got no leg to stand on.",
"I mean, even the way you just said it, that'd make us not stupid. You may wanna reword that or something man.",
"The fact that this is so believable should give you pause for self reflection.",
"I don't think it means what you think it means. ",
"The man claimed global warming was a chinese hoax. Not to his buddies in a breakroom, not to his family over dinner, but to his prospective voters in a bid to rally them to his xenophobic cause and get their votes. We can't even tell if he's lying on purpose or is just willfully ignorant anymore.",
"How is saying the President's name a dig? How does trying to piss him off help anyone? It's a waste of time and undermines whatever point you're trying to make.",
"come on please, please tell me you forgot an /s \n\nthis is just rich, its like?? \n\nI cant shrug my shoulders enough on this one ",
"Yes they do, all the time. Just not on reddit because reddit is for the most part young kids who are statistically speaking more left leaning.",
"It’s a shame how that works right?",
"Still your president. 3 more years 😃 maybe 7? 🙃🙂🙃🙂",
"Sure, but you can haggle over the accuracy of dynamic scoring by the CBO 25% in either direction. That's definitely a matter of opinion. ",
"I would upvote this all weekend if I could. Thank you for putting a huge spotlight on the disease of partisanship. ",
"> r from.\n> \n> You ever thin\n\nwell you put it that way, keep crying I guess...",
"This is exactly how he got elected. ",
"Whew! Billions upon billions of dollars to, “gradually decrease,” the smog levels over a 30 year period! At this rate Flint will have clean water in 50 years! I change my mind, inpeech Drumpf if he doesn’t rebuild the EPA and start giving them trillions!",
"Good luck with that. There is no proof. And you won’t find any. These people don’t even know what they are mad about but that doesn’t stop them from yelling. ",
"Nope. It's not the same thing at all, other than the word \"real.\" It is nonsensical to support someone who believes in protectionism and restrictive immigration at the same time you call yourself libertarian. A better word for someone like that is \"asshole.\"\n\nAnd let's not even start on social issues.",
"It is when you have a humanistic viewpoint and think those who work hard to be here, don't deserve to be deported based on something that happened 40 years ago... by their parents.",
"Lick my balls nazi",
"I didn't capitalize \"liberals\" I only fixed the fucked up part. I don't know why I need to tell everyone why I edited my comment? and no I am not butthurt. What did you call me out on by the way? I made a mistake shit happens.",
"I'm just having a good time my friendly leddit investigator",
"People aren't just upset he said shithole. We're upset that he questioned the right of migrants from those countries to be here.\n\nA Haitian that comes to America and works to build a better life is exactly what we need more of. One of the principles many of us LOVE about America is that where you come from doesn't define you here.\n\nThe fact that he expressed his sentiment like a racist uncle with mild dementia by calling some our close allies \"shitholes\" just makes it all the more infuriating.",
">being so privileged you think a guy who says mean things is as bad as a guy who killed 6 million +",
"> I'm sure you do fella, I'm sure you do.\n\n> wish you the best with your cynicism and condescending view of other people.\n\nNothing like a little hypocrisy to drive it home. I appreciate the thought nonetheless. Best to the both of us for being more self-aware.",
"No, it's just incredibly repetitive and it's the same message every time. Some people, regardless of their views on the guy, just want content that isn't making fun of trump. ",
"/r/The_Donald is going to throttle you for this.",
">he so upset he's continuing\n\nYikes",
"Im pretty sure thats a threat",
"Low employment rates? I think you’re confused...",
"The stock market isn't a good measure of the health of the economy. Wage growth is still basically stagnant, even with the super low unemployment.\n\nhttp://money.cnn.com/2015/04/10/investing/investing-52-percent-americans-have-no-money-in-stocks/index.html",
"What's worse? Losing an election or winning it and walking back every campaign promise you ever made?",
"Well, I can't disagree with you there. I get really tired of it, to be completely honest. ",
"Well, that’s all I’m saying, baby. Let’s move forward as Americans rather than “I’M IN THIS GROUP AND YOU’RE IN THAT ONE!!!” \n\nLife isn’t black or white- in any measure. I wish you the best. ",
"and by design. When /r/politics was bought, do you think /u/spez would put an end to it?\n\n",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender?wprov=sfla1\nHere's a brief overview that touches on some examples of societies throughout history recognizing non-binary genders. P.s. you're a snowflake!",
"I'm...impressed.",
"Not even sure what your saying. Clinton 65 million votes. Trump 62 million votes. ",
"What an appropriate caption for both this image and this thread.",
"I’ll be honest, I was not a Trump supporter in the beginning. But to my surprise, it came down to these two and I had to pick the lesser of the two evils in the end.",
"Clinton had 2.9 million more votes. Almost 3 million more people wanted Clinton to be the president over trump. You can call yourself the educated redneck, but it sure as hell doesn’t show. ",
"Gilding this whole posting",
"Was that supposed to be a joke?",
"> I guess we'll just have to live with the low employment rates,\n\nWell you got that part right at least",
"Because it was hilariously ironic, and not just a simple typo. And liberals is capitalized unnecessarily, so if you didn't do that, then who did?",
"So does obama ",
"While The Tea Party (tm) may have been created earlier, I was referring to the more general movement and protests (largely unaffiliated with the official party) which rose in protest to Obamacare.",
"Trump really is retarded. Like for reals. Which is what makes sorting by controversial fun.",
"Not anymore at least! I’m a supporter of Israel.",
"The opening response used to dodge debate proves that this one has no desire to debate using logic.",
">acting civil like republicans do\n\nThis is satire right?\n\n“Barrack HUSSAIN Obama! He isn’t American! Look at his birth certificate! NOBAMA!” etc.\n\nYou talked shit about Obama the entire time he was in office. Don’t even pretend you didn’t. And now you’re upset because we say stuff about Trump’s constant, inane twitter posts and complete inability to act like a president. Lol. \n\n",
"She flip-flops on major issues depending on what she thinks her audience wants to hear. She was very careless with classified information. She accepted large donations from Wall Street and suddenly opposed any regulation on Wall Street. She has the attitude of a slimy car salesman (see the hot sauce video). She claimed to be energetic and then collapsed in a heap in public. She claimed her gender is one of the biggest reasons she should be president.\n\nMost importantly to me, the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie Sanders, then DNC head Debbie Wasserman Schulz was forced to resign in shame, and Hillary immediately hired Debbie to work on her campaign. She lost my \"anyone but Trump\" vote then, so I voted third party.\n\nBut I can see why people would say \"fuck it, let's give it to Trump\" as a protest against the whole shitty political system. If this system keeps giving us nothing but corporate-owned puppets, and rigs the system against someone like Bernie, then fuck it, we're voting for the WWE Hall of Famer. ",
"sort by controversial for the triggered. ",
"no specifically referencing trump vs bill clinton. Both did the same thing. Not what about that or this. Same thing. not emails vs birthcert. Paying off people to be quiet vs paying off people to be quiet. ",
"You two should make a porno. Nazi scum and libtard snowflake star in “LICK MY WHOLE ASSHOLE 17”.",
"HA HA HA HA HA HA HA -- TRUMP supports are dumb, right folks? HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",
"I forget.",
"Who do you think they voted for in that case? ",
"If you think this is sarcastic then you really have some catching up to do.",
"Profiting? The mans net worth is down a billion dollars.",
"they changed it to climate change bigot, and obviously it's real, that's why Bill Nye leads the charge. you'd have to be fucking stupid not to believe infinite gender spectrum Bill Nye the science guy.\n\nI do miss the polar bears though.. such shame. ",
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups ",
"The news wasn’t against him at all. They gave him way more press than he deserved and beat Hillary’s investigations to death. \n\nYou miss the point on speaking out. His supporters still give him the benefit of the doubt on his racism, misogyny, and general stupidity. They wave off every gaffe as 4/D chess, simple trolling, or “plain talk”. They can rationalize anything so long as it doesn’t hurt them immediately. ",
"So because he won he is not a piece of shit? Did you also think that of Obama? If not, gtfo with your hypocrisy. We can voice how we feel about this classless billionaire who definitely just got into the presidency to make himself and his buddies richer. ",
"He didn't bring back millions of jobs.",
"That’s not irony, that’s foreshadowing!",
">\tsomething needed to be done \n\nThat something would be a transfer of US wealth globally. Not climate at all! Not something I support and I hope not something my fellow Americans support! ",
"the truth is always right. Weather people want it to be or not. ",
"Funniest part to me is it looks like a large capacity vehicle.",
"Thanks Obama!",
"Correct. As you said, the market (which could come crashing down at any moment). But again, both the stock market and the economy were already on they way up. Unemployment rate was on the way down. He hasn’t done anything but deliver on the tax cuts which understandingly sent the stock market soaring from companies expecting higher profits. Even then, only half of Americans own a non trivial amount in stocks. The benefits of this will go to 1% like my parents (which aren’t even Americans, but own a significant amount of stocks), won’t do anything for a vast amount of people. ",
"Because I have yet to see in either of the 2 tabs a trump support just straight up being stupid. I get it, people hate trump. Let me say again We get it.. I hate his hair, his body language, his short vocabulary. But come on... he could be worse. Not like that's an excuse. But the most asshole seem to trend on the hate trump bus. Anyone who has to create such hatred and ignorance just for one man is someone I wouldn't trust with a manual pencil sharpener.",
"Lol",
"Neoconservatives supported the Paris deal. It's the populists in the GOP who are so dead set against it. ",
"Has it really been years? I honestly don't remember it being this way until after the election.",
"Its really sad that you only responded to that one part of her reply lol... you give trump supporters a bad name. ",
"These people are besmirching the good name of /r/pics!",
"“I have never understood why it is “greed” to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else’s money.” ~ Thomas Sowell\n\n",
"I could give a flying fuck about \"charisma\". \n\nI care greatly about \"its her turn\" as a campaign slogan as they take a giant steamy dump all over Bernie Sanders. Which was proven with the DNC email leaks. \n\nI don't know what happened to Seth Rich, but the fact that Julian Assange said he was the DNC leaker AFTER his death is either Assange just being a massive douche nozzel (entirely possible) or the DNC/Clinton campaign literally had a man assassinated for revealing the truth. \nEither way its a situation that leaves a very bad taste in my mouth no matter what the truth is, which sadly we will likely never know. \n\nThe entirety of the Clinton Foundation and its shady international \"donations\" is pretty fucking questionable even in the most forgiving lights. Seriously show me the other candidates that a huge foundation that takes millions from foreign nationals. Where was Bernie Sanders Clinton Foundation equivalent, where was R-Money's Clinton Foundation equivalent, where was Marco Rubio's Clinton Foundation equivalent, where was Jill Steins Clinton Foundation equivalent... Something like the Clinton Foundation is NOT \"normal\" among politicians, even if by some miracle the organization is not in any way corrupt or being used as a means to filter illicit funds to the Clintons and their political efforts in an unethical manner its still highly questionable and something people are completely allowed to be justifiably upset about and dislike about a political candidate. \n\nHillary Clinton lacked her own opinions on matters. I care less about a person having a \"wrong\" or \"bad\" opinion than I do about them just saying whatever they think the crowd wants them to think/say. \nFor a good long while Hillary Clinton was anti-gay marriage, but when gay marriage became a popular trendy cause to support she acts like she had ALWAYS been some progressive wondergirl who always supported gay marriage. \n\nAnother example of her flip floppiness. In a CNN interview a few years ago, “We have to send a clear message that just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean your child gets to stay.”.\nThen in a Telemundo internview during the election when immigration became more of a talking about and this previous quote was brought up “the children themselves need to be taken care of. They are children. They should be given every help that we can.”.\n\n\nHillary Clinton held very questionable political points unrelated to progressive talking points. Points that the majority of reddit even the more left/progressive oriented base rather disliked. For instance she supported the TPP, she still viewed NAFTA as a good thing with good results. To the average basic person who isn't the head of a major corporation these things were absolute shit and Trump was one of the few people that opposed the TPP and one of the few good things Trump has done was stop the TPP. So Hillary's support of the TPP is a clear single issue voter topic that people would/could care about. \n\nHillary is a hardcore hawk of a Democrat, hell shes more hawkish than some Republicans. If you are a dove or atleast anti-hawk Hillary Clinton was NOT your candidate. One of the few things we saw consistently throughout her political career was that she was very hawkish. \n\nThat even completely discounting simply being of a different political alignment, which is a FINE thing. People can have different opinions and ideas on topics. I mean people don't like to accept it, but its a reality people have different views, goals, and ambitions and sometimes that doesn't sync up with a vanilla party line Democrat. \nMaybe they line up more with a third party candidate like Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, or shock and horror abound possibly even a Republican. ",
"Reddit was founded on free speech (consider the list of banned subs and consider how long reddit resisted banning them) and democracy (upboats and downboats).\n\nFor whatever reason, free speech and democracy exposes that the majority of the western world is liberal.\n\nFor some CRAZY reason, liberals think that the majority of people should be in charge instead of the minority of people.",
"its even more ironic that you posted this on reddit.",
"I understand that you posted a reference, and I appreciate that you did, but I truly have a hard time believing *anything* from CNN. All they present is doom and gloom. ",
"> 65 million from 50. Troll harder.\n\nWhich is... exactly what I said. What the fuck kind of point are you trying to make here?",
"Oh the ignorance",
"This is one of the stupider things I've seen in a while. ",
">~~Fake~~ Alternative facts bruh\n\nFTFY",
"says*",
"I mean my life is just going on currently, except my 401k has been growing rapidly.",
"Is she supposed to be in the US yes or no? \nHow can she attend University whilst being illegal? DACA?",
"r/neverendingcirclejerk",
"Oh man I've never gotten into one of these threads before it gets locked ",
"No, but luckily multiple senators (including republicans) were and confirmed it.",
"The reason the markets are so high is investors are willing to put more in with trump as president. He's also undone hundreds of obama regulations that hurt the market as well. Not equating that to him being a good president but yes the market currently being so good is because of him. Also if you have a 401k then you're reaping the benefits. You don't have to own stock for that. Plus owning stocks is easy as shit. Get eTrade or fidelity or something and toss money in their instead of spending it on dumb shit. ",
"I'm not sure if they are aware of the concept of irony.",
"I know she obviously got votes from all states. Everyone did. ",
"I suggest reading up on supply side and demand side (Keynesian) economics. Researching on \"Trickle Down\" economics will only give you critiques on supply side economics because the term is more used in politics than economics.",
"Please explain what you mean. ",
"> The stock market is on a tear like never before.\n\nYou realize they called it the roaring 20's right.... right?\n\n",
"If you want to make an omelette, you gotta break some eggs. Being tolerant requires intolerance, and if your brain is any bigger than a walnut, that statement won't trigger you.",
"So because Obama was bad, Trump is free to be even worse. And me pointing it out is therefore invalid, for some reason.",
"You're correct on the blue states having better academic education, in which perfect grammar is taught. So yeah, I don't see a hillbilly teaching young Gilbert how to spell his name, dimwit.",
"triggered by this post? lol",
"Basically what your saying is we should focus on the good and ignore the petty bad things. You FUCKING IDIOT these things he is saying and doing will fucking ruin this country in both foreign diplomacy and domestic. If you havent fucking heard, nobody likes us right now. Maybe thats a sign we should change?",
"glasses wearers are an underprivileged minority. Sign me up for my free gubmint dollas",
"If you honestly think any of this economic increase is going to trickle down to you and I, then I feel sorry for you. ",
"Is this where I comment about commenting before a post gets locked?",
"Lmao you can’t use our jokes on you.. you’re the libtard. Thus YOU need the safe space.",
"But why are you a trump supporter now?",
"If you weren't stupid I wouldn't disagree with you",
"DACA recipients are ineligible for welfare???\n\n\nWhat government services are DACA recipients eligible for?\n\nBeyond deferred action, work authorization, the ability to apply for a credit card, and the ability to get a driver’s license (in some states), DACAmented individuals don’t actually get that many government services. While opposition to DACA claims that the program drains valuable resources that only the true American citizenry deserves, DACAmented individuals aren’t eligible for federal financial aid, Medicaid, Obamacare, the Housing Choice Voucher Program, welfare, or food stamps. Though DACA recipients have Social Security number and will have paid $19.9 billion in taxes towards Social Security (and $4.6 billion in taxes towards Medicare) after just one decade of the program’s existence, because DACA does not provide a real legal status, DACAmented individuals will never actually be able to collect any of these Social Security benefits. Add on the fact that DACAmented individuals have paid more than $11.74 billion in state and local taxes — and odds are their families pay more in addition, as many undocumented Americans pay taxes with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number as they do not have a Social Security number and here in America even if we don’t want you, we want your money — and it’s pretty clear that DACA recipients are funneling more money into the American economy than out of it.\n\nIs there any precedent for this?\n\nActually, yes. Both Presidents Reagan and Bush Sr. used their executive powers to give blanket deferred action to keep families that would be separated by changes in amnesty laws together, and Bush Jr. used his powers to defer action for foreign students displaced by Hurricane Katrina.\n\nSo why is DACA controversial?\n\nIt seems the Trump Administration has no problem with sweeping executive power when it comes to banning, surveilling, and criminalizing brown bodies, but protection thereof by executive order is suddenly an overreach — prompting a threat by 10 GOP State Attorney Generals to threaten a lawsuit against the federal government unless Trump made good on his campaign promise to end DACA (although Tennessee’s found his heart and dropped out).\n\n\n\n",
"down",
"This needs more upvotes",
"Who do you think pays for your “entitled” obama care? While you pay peanuts? ",
"If you remember back to election night and you were watching the futures market, specifically S&P500 (/ES), you'd have seen that it came within 2 ticks of limit down, where trading gets halted. Once it became obvious Trump was likely to win, the market turned quickly and finished the night recovering about 80 of the 100 lost points. \n\nA pro business president absolutely drives the stock market. Same thing happened in Italy when Silvio Burlesconi, the media mogul of Italy was elected. ",
"sort by: controversial",
"deranged television indoctrinated people don't research.. are you fucking kidding me? they have the msm, whom loves them & even tells them what to buy all day while being educated.. ",
"“The more people we have in our relatively free and open economy, the better off we are.”\n\nYou can’t simply make a blanket statement like this. it’s totally wrong. Bringing in swaths of uneducated migrants from contrary cultures is not sound economic policy at all. It’s stupid and dangerous. \n\nBringing in educated migrants from complementary cultures however is great. Even then though, too many would burden the economy and resources. ",
"Nope, that record was broken by trump in the first 9 months of 2017.",
"Wait what? For my grandpa?? I think you missed the point by a mile.",
"Oh. Oh my. Either you're delusional or a Russian bot. But yeah, we will see in 3 years. Hope he doesn't get reelected tho. ",
"Ignorant alert",
"Dude Trump basically got memed in",
"Well full disclosure, I'm not American myself but I do see quite a few Americans who devote a seemingly unhealthy amount of their time to defending the Trump administration. So are you genuinely a Trump supporter, or are you seriously just taking the piss out of all the people who are distressed by Trump being president? ",
"If you sort by controversial it perfectly proves this posts point.",
"If you need me to tell you what he has done that's wrong then you aren't paying very good attention. But here is my rundown of things he has done off the top of my head:\n\nHe has consistently repealed Obama's work, not as a means of moving the US forward, but because he dislikes Obama. He has lessened the world's view of the US on a global scale. He has heightened tensions between our allies to a point I have not ever seen in my life (When is the last time a US president refused to go to the UK?) He has insinuated that he is willing to participate in nuclear war with North Korea and used the office of the presidency to talk about the size of his penis in twitter (those tweets about him having a bigger nuclear button than Kim Jong Un). He just recently repealed massive parts of the children's medicaid programs. Why would you do that? Beats me. He has undermined US institutions by planting his own appointees in leadership positions that are incredibly unqualified for those positions, for example, putting someone in charge of the EPA who does not believe in climate change. Climate change is not a debate at this point.. it's a fact. Trump is denying a fact that will have generational impacts on the world because he doesn't want to admit that he was wrong on something. He has GREATLY increased racial tensions in this country, directly leading to the death of one person in that march that happened a while ago. He just recently described african countries and Haiti as 'shithole' countries and said he doesn't want them to immigrate to the US. The US was founded by people from 'shithole' countries. It made us who we are, and continues to shape us as a nation today. Trump is a racist. He has admitted to sexually assaulting women and has normalized sexual assault. He has routinely lied to the american people about what is happening in the White House and about things he has said and done. His 'fake news' campaign has destroyed the integrity of our media institutions. He has alienated entire populations of people for literally no reason. He has promised to build a wall along the southern border that the popular vote decided we didn't want (good news is he can't figure out how to do it, so that's not a tangible bad thing, but his trying to force mexico to pay for it has increased tensions with our closest southern ally). \n\nOh and also Puerto Rico.. literally people are dying because they don't have access to resources when we have a moral and political obligation to give them substantial hurricane relief efforts. And I also didn't even touch on any of the corruption that very likely happened in order to get him elected, i.e. Russia involvement. \n\nDo I need to describe more things? How can you support someone knowing all of those things I just described?\n\nedit: sorry you're getting downvoted. All you did was ask a question, albeit an unpopular one. Education and spreading knowledge is important. Don't let the downvotes bother you. If you want to talk more about this without fear of losing internet points you can PM me. I genuinely care about you knowing what's happened if you're not well informed. ",
"He is also retarded.",
"Do you mean the economy that was already in recovery before he took office? The economy that Trump has done literally nothing about? That economy?",
"Not to defend one way or the other, but this combo of stickers could be either a joke or ignorance. ",
"Not to defend one way or the other, but this combo of stickers could be either a joke or ignorance. ",
"Isn't this the crux of the problem? Both sides think they are so smart. In reality both are taking crazy pills.",
"You’ve taken the original comment that I responded to and transformed it into something else entirely that I can largely agree with.",
"I pretty sure people who supported Douglas called Lincoln supporters stupid and visa versa",
"Right.",
"Let's see him make it through the first four first.",
"He’s my President. I didn’t like Obama, but I supported him and had respect. Not going to get all whiny about it.",
"You’re not that bright are you",
"Do you need a safe space?",
"I’m not upset at all. I just find it funny that you can be so rude because you’re hiding behind a computer. ",
"Time to buckle down and sort by controversial",
"The chaos there is like nothing we've ever had before and not anything I would imagine she would be running. For a lot of people their problem with her is that she was considered, a \"status quo\" politician. \n\nTurning over staff personnel at this rate, taking a record number of total vacation days over any tenure in just a year, refusing to work until noon, and threatenting nuclear war with North Korea through social media with claims of a non-existent button are among the chaos items I truly do not believe would be happening under her administration.\n\nDo I think she had baggage? 100 percent. Do I think there would be corruption? Very likely. But I also think she'd be doing a better job overall in working with the constituents in Washington to get things done.",
"Sorry you failed 4th grade grammar. Lets try again and maybe people can comprehend. ",
"Oh man you really got him there",
"It doesn't say anything about us. But it says all about how uneducated and backwards half of the US population. I mean this stupid country elected George W Fucktard with 50+ million votes too. So not surprised at all.",
"Obama had the top ama of anyone ever. His portrait was the top pic I think. Idk politics has been everywhere for as long as we’ve lived. ",
"K",
"Both political parties are guilty of this, and anyone that says otherwise is either uniformed or lying. It’s human nature. ",
"Why do they have two of the same sticker?",
"I think you’re assuming the first one is sarcastic. If you take it literally it’s consistent and makes sense. It’s it’s actually pretty encouraging. \n\n“Come on my fellow stupid people, if we band together there’s no limit to what we can do!” \n\nSee? Not ironic at all! ",
"\"His cabinet strategist is fucking fox news, which puts him in the same intellectual bracket as my alzheimers ridden 85 yr old gpa\"",
"The jobs Obama said were not going to come back have still not come back, so I guess Trump failed lol ",
"Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one and they all stink.",
"I get that a lot...",
"General Reposti! You are a tired one.",
"I get that, but I also think it’s a way for people to vent about how shitty he is. Probably because logic and facts of His Shittiness does not get through to trump supporters. The responses are always “bu-bu-but KIllarrhy and Obama sin ladin” as a deflection to anything Trump does wrong. So I kind of see this as a way to vent the negative emotions peeps feel about him. ",
"That was interesting, I've never heard of that. I wish I could have experienced it firsthand, just to know what the internet was like back then. Thanks for the knowledge.\n\nAnyway, I disagree with your major premise. When I was a kid in the late '90s and early 2000s, people were not this awful. Maybe things started to go down hill in the 90's (my dad points to Newt Gingrich and his \"Contract for America\"); maybe it started in the '80s. Regardless, the fall has accelerated rapidly in the past decade or less; I would say it started after social media, but maybe it was just a delayed reaction.",
"Eight years with that approval rating? Not likely",
"Just think, Hillary lost to Trump. Let that sink in.",
"Here's an [article](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/04/economy-added-209-000-jobs-in-july-241325) from August that says he hit a million",
"He's certainly saying those things. Here's the thing chief, you don't need a left wing media narrative to see what a moron Trump is. He tweets...remember, that's how he avoids the MSM narrative.\n\nAnd the story of his twitter is so, so fucking embarrassing. ",
"Congrats dude!",
"DACA made it legal for her to be here and work toward citizenship.\n\nI've copied some basic resources in other comments explaining what DACA is and why it was put into place, and what resources they actually receive so go read those before I have the same argument for like the 7th time.",
"I don't care who they voted for, but voting for Trump demonstrated that they were willing to piss on the values that libertarians prize. I can call myself a gorilla if I want, but that doesn't mean I am one.",
"Sort of like writing on a toilet stall wall",
"> Take of the blind fold.\n\nWhat should I take of the blind fold? ",
"‘I don’t agree with this PRESIDENT, let’s fucking ruin all of Reddit. Go progressives!!’",
"Lol, go tell your grandpa that theres a nazi on the internet. Literally no one gives a fuck.",
"Oh no I'd say this shit to your face too, no problem. ",
"No the one where he brought back millions of jobs and deregulated Obama policies allowing growth. ",
"yeah, the trendline was totally not set in when obama intervened economically, it hasn’t changed radically during his presidency and hasn’t stradily followed the same year over year increase.\n\nbut sure buddy, trump saved the states from the secret invisible economic collapse and the exact same increase should totally be attributed to him. despite trump having made 0 significant changes until *at least* september.\n\nfeel free to add a remindme for 1 more year and we’ll see what the economy looks like.\n\nO got a broken economy. Mr. i’ll make mexico pay for the wall by begging them but then taking the money out americans’ pockets, got a functioning one.\n\nlet’s if if he doesn’t fuck it up.",
"call stupid people stupid. retards care more about \"librul tears\" than their own well being. fuck em.",
"She won the popular vote",
"I've disciplined my word prediction, ty grammar fascist 👌🏻 what would we do without folks like you?\n\nA. fun dialogue. ",
"Coming from a guy who ignores arguments he cant win lolz",
"Honestly there's a very good chance she wasn't aware of her status until she was around that age, and maybe even later. But let's assume she did at 14, which I agree is an age you can start taking responsibility for yourself. \n\nThe citizenship process would _require_ her to have her guardian(s), or file as an independent applicant which would place her into an assisted home, until she was 18. And even if she began it at 14, it's highly unlikely she would have received it at this point (20). \n\nYou're right - there is a world of difference between a fishing license and citizenship. And even assuming the best, assuming she was aware of her status, and willing to be separated from her parents (since if her parents presented themselves to immigration, as illegals they would have been deported while citizenship was obtained), it's still a small chance anything would have changed for her now.\n\nOf course I'm also assuming positive things about her. Maybe she didn't begin the process due to laziness - that's not uncommon and it certainly isn't something to be proud of. But if she had been living under a protected status, it's certainly no unrealistic to see why she would put off the entire process, given the size and scope of it. \n\nMy point is, that while there could certainly be some blame on her, even though she was brought here without a choice as a child, it's unreasonable and unethical to deport her when she has contributed to our country and only ever known it as her home. DACA provides a huge benefit to our country, and I cannot see a reasonable position against it. ",
"And when you point it out you get called a cuck or a nazi if you’re lucky, and silently downvoted if you aren’t.",
"While your tolerant attitude is great, don't act like everything is completely morally relative. There are definitive rights and wrongs out there, it's just hard to find them at times because the most dangerous voices are often the loudest. ",
"Jesus christ this man is having a stroke ",
">facts don’t back it up\n\nDoesn’t provide facts. \n\nCan’t make this stuff up. ",
"But if those 4-5 states are the majority of the population, why is that a bad thing? I’d rather have candidates pander to the majority of the population than to waste time trying to turn certain swing states.",
"Russia helped him get elected, you stable genius.",
"So this is how you spend your Friday night?",
"No he isn't. What are you? 12? He's not even close to as bad as Bush. Lmao calm down.",
"Her views on 2A.\nHer views on immigration/refugees.\nHer track record on foreign policy.\nHer would be picks for judges.\n\nAre you people really this retarded to think we had no reason to dislike Hillary? \n",
"I've grown to like Trump more over the past year, so I suppose I'm more of a supporter than not at this point",
"Don't straw man me lol",
"Poor taste OP",
"He didn't divest from any of his businesses.",
"I am well aware of that problem. It's a problem in all of Europe as well. But some have chosen to import workers while others are willing to suffer the consequences. Truly curious what the long term consequences will be. It seems in the short run Japan will have some hard times ahead. But they will pass.\n\nSomething, something, hard times create good men...",
"If you're going to make a bold statement like that, I suspect you must have a pretty strong source for what you're saying. I'd like to see it. ",
"I bet there was some nasty shit written on the walls of Ancient Rome. \"Tiberius supporters are worse than Gauls\"",
"I dont care for the guy personally, but I feel you. It has gotten out of hand. ",
"You don’t have to be particularly smart to have money. ",
"Take a look at yourself and your surroundings and see if you can find where the real irony is",
"What is your first language?",
"Obama had higher job growth.",
"From the same article:\n\n>The pattern of job growth in 2017 remains essentially the same as in 2016. \n\nNeat.\n\nedit: also millions != 1 million",
"You've got a deal.\n\n!RemindMe one year \"Is the economy broken under Trump?\"",
"You mean democracy is stupid?",
"Be proud that your country has a leader that has [accomplished](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achievements-11-obama-legacy-items-repealed/article/2644159) so much in such little time. ",
"Yeah like seriously, like him or not the man is the president and he deserves respect.",
"Not sure what you were trying to quote, but you might want to try again friend",
"Obama did what? Trump did what? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE^EEEEEEEEEeeeeee\n\nYour comment is so awesome and endangered it should be examined and explained by Sir David Attenborough.",
"Not when it's in a conversation about the differences between the two candidates. It would be whattaboutism if this thread was about Hillary and nobody in the thread was talking about Trump. ",
"Wow. Here’s the point. Look at the map. You take away NY and CA and she got absolutely destroyed by Trump. Two huge liberal states held her up that’s it. That’s my point. ",
"> Bringing back millions of jobs is some how bad?\n\nMaking up facts is *somehow* (one word) good?",
"Total bait post here, should probably be in political humor or one of the anti Trump subs. ",
"Ok, but I find difficulty with your choice of words. Questioning someone is one thing, expressing yourself and then having to deal with a “backlash” is something else. I’m not a very paranoid person, but “backlash” is an extreme term. ",
"35 Moochs",
"When /r/pics sends us their posts, they don’t send us their best.",
"Polls don't account for the electoral college at all. People like Nate Silver do, but he also predicted Trump had a 30% chance of winning, which was accurate even in hindsight. \n\nNational polls are more accurate than state by state polls, and national polls had Clinton up by 3-5 points. She won by 3, so I'd say they were accurate. ",
"I don't know the point you're trying to make, nor do I care. Anyone who says that 5 states out of 50 should decide who is president is an imbecile, and luckily are not in office. ",
"You're right that's why I said \"grammatical\" not a \"spelling error\". (I don't really proofread the shit I post on Reddit) That part clearly flew over your head. \n\nI thought that you meant that I edited the \"l\" into an \"L\" after you made the post about my error. I am pretty sure you're supposed to capitalize political parties.",
"\"Politics (from Greek: πολιτικα: Polis definition \"affairs of the cities\") is the process of making decisions that apply to members of a group, it refers to achieving and exercising positions of governance — organized control over a human community, particularly a state. Furthermore, politics is the study or practice of the distribution of power and resources within a given community (this is usually a hierarchically organized population) as well as the interrelationship(s) between communities.\"\n\nPolitics is not a battle or a game. American politics are, but we are fucking stupid.",
"Lol she sure did, won 57 out of 3,141 counties. Winner winner chicken dinner. ",
"That's the attitude that got him elected.",
"Dead",
"That's a Ford F-250, isn't it?",
"http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2015/04/09/who-missed-stock-market-rally.html\n\nhttps://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/09/half-of-americans-avoid-the-stock-market.html\n\nhttp://news.gallup.com/poll/190883/half-americans-own-stocks-matching-record-low.aspx\n\nhttps://www.npr.org/2017/03/01/517975766/while-trump-touts-stock-market-many-americans-left-out-of-the-conversation\n\nhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-americans-dow-22000-investing-20170803-story.html\n\nhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/laurengensler/2015/04/09/over-half-of-americans-arent-investing-in-the-stock-market/#879c21a5b80c\n\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/tax-bill-winners-investors-will-benefit-2017-12\n\nhttp://theweek.com/speedreads/716140/dows-record-high-big-deal-stocks-half-americans-dont\n\nhttp://time.com/money/5054009/stock-ownership-10-percent-richest/\n\nhttp://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-stock-investors-20171218-story.html\n\nhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/11/18/dow-soars-but-only-about-half-of-americans-will-benefit/",
"Guys, we have to stop generalizing huge groups of people like this. Yes, there are liberals who are easily offended, but there are also conservatives that are easily offended. But these are such big groups, so you can't say that all liberals or all conservatives act the same way. \nI am a liberal, and yes, I do think it is hilarious when I see people criticize snowflakes, but then get really easily offended themselves. But this doesn't mean that all conservatives are snowflakes. \nAlthough I strongly disagree with conservatives on many issues, I still believe that there are both smart liberals and smart conservatives. Just like how there are dumb liberals, and also dumb conservatives. You can't say that half of America acts a certain way. Just like how you can't say that and entire race acts the same way. \nCan't we just tolerate other people's opinions? Can't we just have a civilized debate with respect on both sides? This country is so divided now, let's just have some goddamn respect.",
"Of course not, but you did make a sweeping generalization ",
"Step 1: Get popcorn.\n\nStep 2: Sorted by: controversial\n\nStep 3: https://i.imgur.com/NnoGhN1.gif",
"This horse died a year ago and is now a pile of dusty bones. ",
"I've heard actual historians argue that politics were pretty tame and boring during the 1950s, and even the decades before and after. There are exceptions, for example civil rights and Vietnam, but the idea that we live in a more-polarized-than-average time is credible.",
"Solution to what? You’re allowed to post whatever and I’m allowed to criticize it. I don’t know what you want at this point",
"Never underestimate the power of a 5 minute photoshop job",
"While I won't argue your point, she and Bill used intimidation, not a payout.",
"I ain’t your buddy, pal!",
"Lol except it wasn't. Go look at the end of year stats. It seems almost painful for you to accept that Trump isn't the terrible president you want him to be.",
"I’m sorry, you can’t count post election anything for Obama including stock market. All businesses and investors knew the Obama in his last couple months was a lame duck president and were already banking on republican policies getting pushed through due to holding the White House. Under Obama we had year after year 1% economic growth. Under Trump in his first year we hit 3% and was projected to hit 4% if not for some really bad natural disasters like Harvey in Houston.\n\nI don’t think Obama was bad for the economy necessarily, he was adequate, but there’s a lot of revisionist history going on right now under Trump. It’s the same old same old: anything that goes good was because of the last administration, anything that goes bad was because of this administration. Rinse and repeat for whoever’s “team” is in the whitehouse.\n\nI’m fairly neutral on Trump but I’m 100% sure we wouldn’t be hitting these economic numbers right now with Obama or Hillary as president right now.\n",
"Do you consider all conservatives that make over $200k greedy? While I currently make significantly more than that, I was a conservative even when I made only $80k.",
"Ok. I’m really not looking for a fight- I’ll leave you alone, but I find it a shame that people react this way about certain things. ",
"As a Bernie supporter your attitude and viewpoints are the reason why I voted Trump. You’re commenting on a picture of a bumper sticker for fuck sakes. People like you are the reason Trump is in office, people who were on the fence about who to vote for are swayed to the Republicans because of the urge the left has to get offended over anything and everything. ",
"\"Are we the shithole?\"",
"Because I’ve read what the founding fathers of our country actually said? Yeah, what a dumb thing to do.",
"Lol, so you’re not Palestinian, so don’t call yourself that. Would you apply for Israeli citizenship?",
"Typical, fun Friday night.",
"“because they usually are”",
"Pffft.. ford drivers.",
"It's more than it just went up. It's gone up over 5000 points since he took office. That's like saying \"GDP had been growing consistently, it's not like he magically changed it.\"\nNO. Sub 2% growth under obama VS 3-4% in Trumps FIRST year. Do better.",
"No one said anything about Russia in this thread, and he's been called a racist long before running for political office. \"Shithole\" isnt what was offensive about the comment, but I guess that's what's easier to argue about.",
"I totally agree it’s low quality content, but just downvote it and be on your way if that’s your problem with it",
"Put Obama bumper sticker on it and you got the kind of jokes old people tell.",
"Trump is an American politician, and there's no \"Liberal Party\" in America.",
"Every time I hang out with Denny it's a grand slam!",
"I'll have a discussion with you. Let's start with that list.",
"Comments are ruining reddit!",
"This isn’t an argument. Trump got 62 million from 50 States. Hillary got 65 million. You can argue about election reform all day, but it’s not like all of Hillary’s votes were from 2 states",
"he's done quite a bit more then have money. dig in a little, research isn't as scary as it seems, and Trump just so happens to have nearly a century of information on himself & family.\n\nturn off your television. ",
"Haiti is #163/186 on the Human Development Index. Norway is currently #1. I don't see how race has anything to do with this. ",
"> my white friends who were in frats\n\nTheir fathers are his most ardent supporters.",
"definitely, because public perception matters more than reality ",
"Since my perception has probably been corrupted by the 'leftist conspiracy against Trump' or whatever they're calling it these days, would you mind humouring me by briefly telling me about why Trump appeals to you?",
"Republican voters aren't stupid, the education gap is usually really close between the two parties. Trump voters are a totally different story. \n\nYou can it see in the second link, the education gap is usually 2-5 points, with trump it was 17 points. With white voters the gap was 35 points.",
"Literally everything I wrote is true. Trump has continuously denied that Russia meddled in our election, and the CIA/FBI among other agencies have said Russia did.\n\n> I don't deny truth\n\nYou are doing it all day man. You have been brainwashed by right wing media beyond belief.\n\n> Become a US citizen if you want others to care about what you think of our process.\n\nBorn and bred US citizen, and I employ 20 people. Thanks though chief.",
"The important thing here, is that you found a way to feel superior to both",
"DO U GET IT??? \n\nIS BECAUSE TRUMP VOTERS IS THE STUPID ONES!! ",
"Sigh. Since you want to be nitpicky, and im not fully brushed up on the White side of my family,\nRobert was in Hawaii during Pearl Harbor. He survived and went on to fight in WW2. \n\nUnder him, his son, my grandfather, enlisted in the Navy and continued the service. \n\nMy great grandfathers interview post Pearl Harbor is archived at the University of Texas and his name resides at the memorial in Hawaii. He kept fighting the good fight, even after. ",
"Its not ironic at all. One sticker is pro trump, the other is anti democrat.",
"I must have forgotten what was so terrible actually",
"That's...that's not how that works",
"*refunds",
"Obama didnt start 2 wars and fuck our economy. He had his faults but did pretty well considering the bullshit he inherited, and the unwillingness of the republicans to work with him\n\nRepublicans literally stopped doing their jobs in govt\n\nFucking disgrace",
"Ah, so you never had an actual source, and don’t care about whether something is true or not as long as it fits your narrative. Feels before reals. Gotcha.",
"> he understands money.\n\nHaahahaahaaha\n\nHAHAHAHAHA \n\n**HAHAHAHAHAHA**\n\nWait you're serious?",
"i'm confused, do you support stalinism? ",
"I can say that I have failed to see a bad one even though I've looked. ",
"Got it, so the 20th century didn't happen. I can and will continue to make that statement because study after study supports the fact that immigrants are a net benefit, even when considering social programs. I think it's more than a coincidence that immigration was cut drastically in 1925, and the Great Depression began in 1929. Prepare for another one in a few years.",
"I still mostly like it.",
"I hope this is sarcasm ",
"Are you serious... you actually dont think the news was against trump? did you see the youtube trending 24/7 late night and morning shows bashing everything he did?\n\nand i do agree that he gets praised for his dumbass remarks too often, but what racism?",
"Do you have a point or no? You sound unhinged",
"**THAT’S MORE LIKE IT!!**\n\n",
"Lmao sure, every regulation has trade offs. They aren’t all good or all bad",
">dig in a little, research isn't as scary as it seems, and Trump just so happens to have nearly a century of information on himself & family.\n\nhttps://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history",
"Yes, they have a lot in common. Idiots are those who are too lazy or entrenched in their own beliefs to never consider “the other side’s” point of view. You are demonstrating a phenomena known as tribalism. I resent you for this, however I realize it’s likely because you’ve had less opportunities than me to become educated on this topic. ",
"Lol it applies to all groups. Especially the religious right who get up in arms about just about errythang. ",
"He's not a Nazi. He's just pro-nazi.",
"Could you explain what this means? What does 'collide with Russia' look like? Everyone's always saying, 'he colluded with Russia' but I don't get how. The only colluding that would actually work would be rigging the voting machines, and most people agree that the votes were not compromised. ",
"Did you know that not a single fortune 100 CEO backed president Trump?",
"It’s Saturday morning where I am. Nothing better to do than reddit on Friday? Go make some friends",
">There has to be some way to deradicalize large groups of people and break the walls down that people seem to willingly be putting themselves behind.\n\nBan private schools.\n\nMandatory \"Journalistic Literacy\" classes in high school.\n\nOver the course of a couple decades, the population will be a lot more wise to bullshit.",
"The pic wouldn't have made sense if it was anything other than a \"truck\" ",
"We're not the number one producers; we are the number one consumers (for the time being). We're the market everyone wants, the trend-setters (again, for the near future only). \n\nAnd so, given your position stated above, you would agree. \n\nAwesome! ",
"And now it's to deter 5 votes from controlling 50. Let's all move on. ",
"Welcome to reddit",
"how?",
"Or you just didn’t like the other candidate...",
"Not really. I support socialism, maybe limited communism, but Stalin did a lot wrong, more wrong than right, probably.",
"Disagree. All of this talk of \"making American Great Again\" is ALL ABOUT going back to the time when white folk (and, more precisely, white men) had the lock on all of America's power and money. That is *precisely* identity politics.",
"Oh the irony ....",
"Ah yes, another reason Trump won. Calling republicans racist bigots... daily..",
"Knew it couldn’t be long before the libs started name calling.",
"Yeah it’s like Clinton’s campaign manager and his former national security advisor are both charged with crimes, her own justice department is investigating her. Her idiot son had meetings with a representative from a foreign power who had stolen info on her opposition and was happy about it. Oh and she ignores the emoluments clause and is a huge fucking racist that makes us a daily laughing stock also she had to pay off a porn star. Yeah we dodged a bullet there electing trump. ",
"^ this kind of \"can't we all just get along\" crap is why we have Trump. Any semblance of hard talk, even in jest, and \"oh lord stop being so divisive!\" Chill the fuck out. I don't *actually* think *all* conservatives are overly sensitive.\n\nGrow a pair, stop being so goddamned offended and relax for a fucking minute and enjoy a joke. Jesus.",
"Now please make an effort not to moderate it.",
"Reddit? I think you mean the majority of the civilized world.",
"You said it, man.",
"Only if you attribute it to the wrong cause.",
"Since you joined the cult even with people like me, I'm assuming thing's wouldn't be much different without u's.",
"Naive sentiment here. Voting is usually a \"choice\" between two versions of evil. The choice in the last election was between tribalism and globalism. Either way, a huge portion of Americans were going to get fucked.",
"*impeach. And where did you get billions from? ",
"I ain’t your pal, friend!",
"Bye princess. Go back to your safe space. ",
"Projection is the left's only tactic",
"Or maybe you're extremely gullible, you jump to conclusions, and base your beliefs on feelings instead of logical thought process.",
"I guess I should have been a little more careful about trying to label exactly what Trump's agenda is, though in fairness, it seems like he's plucked 2 or 3 ideas from each sect and mixed them together, regardless of the consistency between them. But my larger point remains: if we have the opportunity to preempt the problem, we should - wars over water and energy will be exponentially more expensive, as will disaster relief spending.\n\nI understand the counter point that there are issues within the US that require more focus and money, but in my mind, they seem much more temporary and significantly smaller in scale than the larger issues facing the planet as a whole.",
"He lost the popular vote...",
"You're free to send bad federal regulations my way. ",
"the economy tanked under bush. it turned around *drastically* under obama.\n\nit tanked due to *deregulation* under bush, it flourished due to regulation under obama.\n\nit tanked for nearly every republican in office, it flourished under most democrats.\n\n\nnow you tell me what you think will happen with this deregulating, republican president.\n\nyeah yeah, maga, bring the jobs back to the states, except for all the jobs he’s pushing abroad... and the foreign workers he employs rather than the americans he promised.\n\n42D go fish!",
"I can’t be bothered",
"It's a shame people hide their reprehensible views and actions behind a facade of \"a disagreement of opinions\".",
"Lol. My family pays for our health insurance that we get through a majority of my family being nurses. They can continue to do so while I send them some money because most part time jobs dont provide health insurance. Its not fucking free, we pay and we just want the option to keep the policy under one name.",
"> What tangible bad things have happened so far?\n\nHere's an alphabetical list\nA\nAlternative facts\nAmerican Manufacturing Council\nB\nBowling Green massacre\nD\nData rescue\nDonald Trump's disclosures of classified information\nDismissal of James Comey\nDismissal of Sally Yates\n2017 dismissal of U.S. attorneys\nDonald Trump judicial appointment controversies\nE\nEfforts to impeach Donald Trump\n2017 electronics ban\nExecutive Order 13767\nExecutive Order 13769\nExecutive Order 13780\nF\nFire and Fury\nH\nRaid on Al Hathla\nCriticism of government response to Hurricane Maria\nL\nLGBT protests against Donald Trump\nLinks between Trump associates and Russian officials\nM\nMagnitsky Act\nHurricane Maria\n2017 Mexico–United States diplomatic crisis\nP\nPardon of Joe Arpaio\nPresident's Committee on the Arts and Humanities\nPresidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity\nTom Price private jet scandal\nProtests against Executive Order 13769\nR\nRaid on Yakla\nS\nDonald Trump on social media\nStrategic and Policy Forum\nT\nTongo Tongo ambush\nTrump campaign–Russian meetings\nTrump Tower wiretapping allegations\nU\nUnite the Right rally\nUnited States recognition of Jerusalem as Israeli capital\nUnited States withdrawal from the Paris Agreement\n2017 United States–Saudi Arabia arms deal\n",
"From the electoral college? Absolutely.",
"Jeez man did you miss the alzheimers portion of the comment, or do you not realise that the majority of Fox News viewers are older white people?",
"vox.. shall I link you the Russian articles from vox? or would you prefer cnn? ",
"...is this a joke? ",
"Please describe the changes trump made that would have made a difference. ",
"The last I heard Obama held the record on such drone strikes.",
"Civil rights for all, racism, impeachable offenses, etc., is more than a disagreement with a president and I think Reddit is doing just fine. If you think it's ruined, move on.\n\nAgain, I am not a mod nor did I post the picture.",
"prove it",
"I just want to say that I really, really intensely dislike the implication that you can only agree with or vote for a certain candidate if you're somehow intellectually impaired.\n\nIt's an affront to the entire principal that democracy is built on - the idea that everyone gets a say, whether you like it or not.\n\nInstead of calling the \"other side\" ignorant, idiots, stupid, bigots, racist, sexist, whatever fucking buzzword you've got in your head... why don't you just respect their right to vote the way they want, even if you disagree with it?",
"Not much. Same with Trump. Hate them both, but its not like my life was drastically changed because of a singular person in one branch of government. ",
"Feel free to forward this to your friend https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/files/M-1051.pdf",
"Maybe it's not irony, maybe they actually know and are proud of it",
"I'm just trying to figure this all out for 8 years the numbers weren't good GDP growth was under the average of every single president before Obama. Then the moment Trump was elected consumer confidence shot through the roof the stock market at all time highs and GDP growth approaching 4% and that was all Obama and nothing to do with Trump? I've got some beach front property in Montana I's like to sell you if you believe that nonsense",
"\"THEY DID IT\"\n\nI love that. As long as you're 1 shade less evil, you're kosher, because there's always another worse person to stare at.\n\n\nStraight to Godwin, but this *literally* a nazi tactic used by Goebbels.",
"Yeah. Cool then our conversation ends here. ",
"Basically summarizes modern politics.",
"But thats not a Hillary sticker.",
"Are you /u/anal_plundering done jerking each other off about the welcoming nature of T_D? I was **this close** to finishing!",
"Please stop memeing outside T_D and r/4Chan, you are making us look like even bigger assholes than they already think we are. People are actually starting to believe that we really think this way",
"I think they are just being a braggart",
"Lol, half the country must be \"ironic\". Funny how some people can't comprehend that other people disagree with them",
"I love this garbage showing up in my Reddit feed <3",
"What's that? You want to silencethe opinions of others? Nazi",
"He's 100% getting re-elected. Unless Oprah is the secret weapon lol. DNC has been demolished. They're in debt, and donations are record lows. The RNC is flush with money, and donations continue to pour in. Stick your head out of your little bubble. It's nice out here!",
"Why does disagreeing with someone on politics make them a moron?\n\nPeople disagree on religion, and they can get along.\n\nPeople disagree on economics, and they can get along.\n\nPeople disagree on whether karma matters or not, and they can still get along.\n\nBut disagree on politics and you are supposed to hate each other and your right, and they are 100% wrong and are retarded.\n\nPeople need to stop thinking a political alignment is an excellent way to judge a person...",
"Because 5 states should not decide the outcome of 50. ",
"Oh Oh I got this! First they are both awful parasites on American politics imo. Clinton is a very successful parasite trump is a very new parasite. Unsuccessful parasite hurt the host. Successful parasites become benign as possible so the host won't kill it. So in the election it came down to a parasite that will through ignorance harm us. Or one that will just try to keep us alive to suck our blood. So do you want a parasite that will possibly get killed in 4 years and cause great harm in the process or a parasite that will likely suck your blood for 8 years with no real change and then we can try again? \n\nIn the end do you like to rip band-aids off fast or slow?",
"Everybody loves democracy until it gives them a result they don't like.",
"What does a budget have to do with an Economic boom? ",
"I'm a fan of capitalism and reasonable nationalism. Trump represents these things better than most modern western leaders",
"I support you man!!!",
"A literal shitload of people abstained from voting in the presidential election- either because their preferred candidate never made it to the final round, or because of lack of care/attention. \n\nThat said, only about half the population voted in any election in the last century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections",
"A palindrome is a word that can be spelled the same way forwards and backwards. Examples include Hannah, eve, Nisioisin, etc. How is this a palindrome.",
"Read all my replies between her and the ones I ignored are conditional so there's no point in arguing them, but it's ok don't hurt yourself trying to think too hard\n",
"One of the biggies was during the Obama administration much of Blue Collar America was ignored. When Clinton was campaigning, she went to George Cloony’s House to party while Trump went to the small towns and talked to the blue collar peeps. That’s one of the reasons Trumpy won. ",
"perfect, can I collect a government check supporting me since I have mental disorder?",
"DAE HATE DRUMPF XD!?",
"Haha wow alright great reasoning",
"Good one... /s",
"you need to look up irony chief. it doesnt mean \"entirely logically consistent,\" as you think it means\n\nxD",
"Ok, you're nitpicking though",
"If you worry more about getting a boat than the importance of social safety nets then yes, you're greedy. I'm barely middle class and cutting my taxes has not been a worry. Not once in my life. I'd rather my community have access to education and healthcare and all the benefits of a strong infrastructure. When you say you're conservative, do you mean to say you support what Trump is doing? ",
"Polls don't ascribe a percentage chance of someone winning. They predict the final vote percentage and the percentage margin of victory. \n\nThose asshole at huffpo who said Clinton had a 99% chance of winning...they are not polls or pollsters. They are hacks. Real polls had Hillary up 3 to 4 points nationally, which was within the margin of error for her popular vote victory. And yes, polls predict the popular vote, not the electoral college. That is certainly a limitation. ",
"I’m talking about the idea as a whole, not if it should be in place. DACA implies her parents entered the US illegally and brought your friend with them. I highlight the word Illegal... Under the US Constitution, this is a crime and should be prosecuted as such, I know it wasn’t her fault and I know she IS a good person, but it’s still a crime no matter what. \nNow I have my own question, how come she has not obtained citizenship yet? You seem to know substantially more than me on the subject.\n\nHave a good day, stay safe ",
"Alright, then we have reached a mutual understanding. ",
"Same. WTF? Sick of seeing all the Trump bashing on my feed. We get it, he's an asshole and 90% of reddit hates him. Just stop shoving it in my face, lol.",
"You should move to Love Canal",
"Someone should help this guy out and draw an arrow from the top sticker to the bottom one. ",
"Repost. Saw it last week.",
"Two examples: ATT and Walmart. Giving out bonuses to high level employees and eliminating x amount of low level employees secretly to compensate. Saves them money and saves face in one move. The tax cuts are for the wealthy, not the plebeians like you and I who he targeted in his campaign. Side note: I was and never will be a fan of the president, but as a civilian, I’m floating in the same boat as people who would drink his orange bath water and that doesn’t sound too well",
"Nice try, but calling someone obese is a diagnosis. And it runs counter to what every doctor who has examined him in the last two years has said. Enjoy the next 7 years 🙃",
"Wow. Here’s the point. Look at the map. You take away TX and he got absolutely destroyed by Clinton. A huge conservative state held him up that’s it. That’s my point.\n\n\nThis is the dumbest fucking point in the world. Do you actually think you're making a good point? \"If it werent for all the people who voted for her, trump would've had the majority.\" You need to be a special kind of stupid to think you've said anything profound.",
"Lol. Can't wait to vote for him again! Shouldn't you be screaming at the sky somewhere?",
"every empirical data shows no significant change in growth.... as if there were some kind of momentum....",
"Frankly I agree fully. But what point is there when people, on both sides of the coin, refuse to listen to reason. I say this as a trump supporter, but the man has a serious case of foot in mouth syndrome, that he needs to clean up big time. The flip side is the blatant corruption and lies coming from the anti-trump. It was confirmed earlier by not one but two people that were actually at the meeting yesterday, that he didn't actually say the word shithole, and from what I'm gathering he didn't say anything even close to it. It seems to me like the left knows they can say what they want, and let the population run with it as far as they want, while they quietly change their tune. ",
"Me too :) I'm a mod on a few discord servers",
"Ready this way to your outward support of bigotry and racism? \n\nLol",
">Trump is the most unfairly chastised president their has ever been \n\nHahahahahahahahahahaha\n\nNeed I take you back two years to president Obama",
"Nope",
"Don’t think it’s the username as much as it’s the post history bud. ",
"Fox news as well? Completely unbiased? ",
"What?",
"Lol \"unleashing\"",
"I mean it's not like someone like fucking Fox or Breitbart would have posted this in their feeds ",
"that's a reasonable compensation for military service, how many years did you serve?",
"I’m not typing you a novel. Especially when I don’t even know you. You’re somebody on the internet.",
"It means there’s more stupid people in our country than we realized. ",
"Can confirm; have been here for years. Have never not seen comments saying it sucks. ",
"Who doesn't like us? Is it 5 eyes? (They do, the keep spending money with us for joint cooperation) is it coalition partners? All 26 nations (they do)... oh it's some irrelevant money sink like Haiti. Or shit well that's just terrible. Maybe they will give back our foreign aid. ",
"*Ding Ding Ding* HIGH SCORE",
"I need a source to back up the claim that we don't have macroecon figured out and human behavior is extremely difficult to predict? *What the actual fuck*, mate?\n\nHow old are you? My \"source\" is 30 years of experiencing life; thousands of hours of reading the Fin Times, Economist, and WSJ; plus hundreds of hours of Freakonomics Radio. You only need a fraction of that to know that my very basic, conservative statements are true. Are you brand new to econ?",
"Really, insults? You can’t excuse some of the lowest approval ratings in history. Not to mention that it’s mostly Republicans who are heading the committees on investigations against him.",
"....Says some on Reddit",
"Thanks for repeating my point again :) At least saying the same thing in anti-trump tone gets it across to everyone! ",
"Staggering?! Compare his first year approval rate with obamas first year! I'll wait. Ok, now check Trudeau's approval rate. Hehe!",
"-says people are triggered \n\n-gets triggered by a picture\n\nIt'll be ok. I know the past year has been rough for people who dug themselves into a hole and have to wake up every morning knowing they'll have to defend trump again. ",
"and you flip that if a republican wins, fuck off retard",
"A shill for Putin bahahaha I love it! Bernie Sanders is a piece of shit Commie in every sense of the word.",
"Since when did reddit become such an SJW stronghold ",
"You.... don’t even.... just all of my wat",
"Jehovah's Witness\n",
"It isn't that he said a bad word. It's that he was asking why we let people from those countries into our country. He made a blanket statement about people from those countries, as though they were all the same and all bad. Just because of their race.\n\nThat's racism by definition. He was judging an entire people by their ethnicity rather than the content of their character. Our president is racist.\n\nThat's why people are disgusted. Not because he used a word everyone hears every day... but because of the racism. Its the same reason we called his Muslim ban racist.\n\nHis exact comment according to CNN was \"Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?\". That's racist.",
"If everyone who is registered to vote/of age to vote and didn't had instead voted third party I believe that third party would have won (my numbers might be off)",
"Oh please, people in there are delusional as f$ck",
"Look at Kansas. Trickle down is a lie. Really though, look at the U.S. after Reagan. Obviously, top-down economics is bullshit.",
"There was a point in time before Hitler killed 11 million people where he was also \"just saying mean things.\"",
"You are the problem. It is perfectly logical to believe the other side is wrong, but you are deluded if you think they are evil. Get your head out of the sand.",
"Yeah, that's pretty much how the cycle works...",
"Very poor excuse. 2/10. Stop talking. You make Trump supporter look stupid. ",
"No, no, just a little more.....\n\nliiiiittllllleeeee mooooooooooooorrreeeeeeee.\n\nAhhhhhhhhh. \n\nOkay, done. ",
"Trump was not a libertarian candidate though. You could say all of that and I would agree with you if he was. The reality though is that niether candidate aligned entirely with libertarian ideals, so unless you are saying that we should all just vote 3rd party I don't see how you can make this argument.\n\nIt's not exactly a secret that libertarians think of themselves as mostly right wing. Trump was the right wing candidate.",
"I believe Trump said on the campaign trail that he could shoot someone and not lose supporters. That’s because the people who would still be supporting him have no human decency or morals. He is like a cult leader",
"More liberal tears in every single subreddit no matter what the subject? Great!",
"Like what? She lost. The comment above said that Hillary's strategy was awful",
"To be fair, 1.2% would have been worth the entire presidency so maybe it doesn’t seem like a large number but to be that’s quit a lottttt. It’s all in the past now anyways, not much we can do besides bicker about what could’ve been/wouldn’t have been I suppose",
"A shithole, if you will. ",
"The fact you took the time to research my comment history is the defining mark of your life. Spend much time on here? LOL",
"It's pretty annoying that every day I come on reddit, it seems like there is something new about trump. That being said, it should also shed a light on how unhappy many people are about our president. Regardless of how well you think he has done politically, we have a president that acts like a child and says very outlandish things. He is the head of our nation and therefore represents our nation and what he is doing is making us look bad. You just can't argue against the fact that the things he has said and the racist and sexist behavior is not the behavior we want from the man who literally represents our nation and who is supposed to be the leader of it. ",
"Just to be completely clear, I really do not approve of Trumps tweets, or some of the stupid thugs he says. As I said, I'm an independent. I'm not politically tied to one side or the other. I didn't actually vote for Trump. In the past, I have voted for Democrats like Bill Clinton, and Republicans like Romney. I think back to the 2012 debate where Romney said Russia was our #1 foe....Obama and the media laughed at him. Now, they agree with him, since they lost the election. I would probably vote for Bill Clinton again if I could. He was a centrist, (and would be considered a neocon by today's ridiculous standards). The reason I can't vote for democrats now, is because they've gone way too far left. I have no problem with legal immigration or refugee programs that are monitored properly. I don't like illegal immigration, or chain migration. The US immigration system is not broken, it's simply not enforced. Democrats want to import voters, Republicans want to import cheap labor. I just want legitimate Americans to come first. Many of my friends are LEGAL immigrants who have spent years, and thousands of $'s to come to America legally. The thing they despise the most, is illegal immigration. I can't stand bypassing democracy with lawmakers deciding to pass burdensome regulations without the input of constituents, or executive orders either. I am not a fan of executive orders under Bush, Obama, or Trump. I just think it's ridiculous that executive orders under Obama received little to no media scrutiny when compared to Trumps. Anyway, I agree with you assertion that politics are now a yelling match, not a discussion. Drama sells papers and gets eyeballs on TV. The media fans the flames of racial division as much as they can. It's a sad state of affairs.",
"as a conservative, when i first joined reddit 5 years ago, it was a time that by browsing the comment section i would constantly change my persepctive because there were so many good ones.\n\n\nnow, it is a total shit show",
"🖒",
"By attacking and insulting people who were undecided and insinuating that if you didn't vote for Hilary, you were a piece of subhuman garbage.\n\nIt makes me laugh that they were surprised when insulting the voters caused them to turn against them.",
"T_D is welcoming. Sorry your far left groupthink narrative is being crushed by firsthand experience with the group. ",
"And the school cannot and will not allocate it to her because it still shows up as a grant on your billing statement. ",
"Are you attempting to communicate with me?",
"Calling republicans nazis is like saying all Muslims are terrorists. The extremes on both the left and the right are bad. Antifa is also eerily similar to the nazis which is ironic seeing as fascism is what they claim to be against. ",
"Not voting is quitting. Not voting is not participating in your democracy. Not voting means you were fine with whoever was in office, because you didn't specify otherwise. Not voting doesn't send a message that you don't like the candidates - not voting sends no message. A write in of Mickey Mouse sends a better message than not voting (though not all states allow this).\n\nThe candidate you wanted not winning is a different story, but you told them who you wanted by putting in that damn ballot.\n\nSo the largest group of stupid people is the one full of those who didn't want to vote because \"my vote doesn't count anyway\" ( by the way it fucking does when 60mill of you don't bother) and \"I didn't like any of the candidates\". They weren't great, for sure, but the worst one of all is now in office because the other 48% didn't bother to say who they wanted.\n\nEDIT: So until we reach France's lowest voter turnout since 1969 (which was at a whopping 75%), I don't wanna hear a goddamn word about how the electoral colleges should be abolished. How about we fix the turnout first? (I am also aware of voter obstruction laws too, which are fucked up)",
"Haha that list is hilarious. Zero of those items could impact short term economic growth in any way at all. ",
"*Sorts by controversial*\n\n**UNZIPS**",
"You are absolutely right. This comment thread proves it. ",
"Are they over 30? If not, they’re included in the survey.",
"To be fair, the \"current leadership\" didn't suddenly spawn as functioning adults in 2016. Trump was claiming Obama was born in Kenya at least as early as 2011. Many of the owners and executives of companies that dominate the market today have held leadership positions for years some for decades.",
"Actually, they cant.\n\n\n1) DACA is a program to protect DREAMers — unauthorized immigrants brought to the US as children\n\nIn the 1990s to mid-2000s, the US started building up enforcement on the US/Mexico border, with a huge unintended consequence: Many unauthorized immigrants avoided repeated risky border crossings by settling in the US with their families. (Previously, unauthorized immigrants had mostly been working-age men who crossed back and forth to the US for work while their families stayed in their home countries.)\n\n\n\n--THIS PARAGRAPH RIGHT HERE EXPLAINS WHY THEY CAN'T GAIN LEGAL STATUS BEFORE DACA--\n\nAround the same time, changes to US law made it nearly impossible for an immigrant to get legal status if they’d lived in the country illegally. So the children who crossed illegally into the US with their parents were growing up in a country where they could never become legal residents or citizens.\n\nThese children became known as DREAMers, after the DREAM Act, a piece of legislation meant to give them a path to citizenship first introduced in 2001. But with that legislation stalled in Congress, President Barack Obama in 2012 created the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA. While it didn’t give them a path to citizenship, DACA offered DREAMers a temporary grant of protection from deportation and a permit to work legally in the US. The protections last two years, after which immigrants can apply to renew for them.\n\nNot all DREAMers, though, became DACA recipients. To apply for DACA, immigrants have to have come to the US before 2007, and have been 15 or younger when they arrived and younger than 31 when DACA was created in June 2012. They had to have a nearly spotless criminal record and be enrolled in high school or have a high school diploma or equivalent.\n\nPerhaps most importantly, they have to apply. It’s estimated that about 1.3 million people would be eligible for DACA, but right now, about 800,000 people actually have it.\n\n",
"Yo I'm sorry but supporting Trump enough to throw his bumper sticker on your car means that you made a monumentally stupid lapse in judgement. Nobody should pussyfoot around the absolute insanity that is electing Donald Fucking Trump for president. ",
"Well Idk about you, but I wouldn't defend any neo-Nazis unless I was pro-Nazi.",
"They spent more time covering his platform and crowd enthusiasm with picking apart his platform. Youtube isn’t the news.",
"...you do understand that the public is who votes?",
"Being a leftist is really just a disease. You guys will be ok, we have medication for your illness. ",
"Gen Z? You mean the generation whose first political exposure consisted entirely of \"DAE SJWS Are Bad????\"",
">I think Haiti is a shithole and I also think that's why their best and brightest deserve an opportunity to become Americans.\n\n\nHere comes the devils advocate question. *So you want the US to poach their best citizens?* This essentially robs Haiti of their best chance at fixing the issues which impede progress. Why not take immigrants from countries higher on the HDI. They can afford to lose some great individuals.\n\n\nPersonally, I'm fine poaching the best the world has to offer. Who knows when we might import another Elon Musk type character. So yes, we should take immigrants from any country. But I think we should have a merit based system, rather than the current diversity lottery.",
"okay, i was making sure. Stalin was a horrible, horrible man. If you like communism, please look at Trotsky. While I hate socialism and communism, I believe he might have been \"alright\"",
"Cmon man we all know his story. Him and his dads golf buddies used a golden parachute from his dad and leveraged his name to build a brand dedicated to gaudy opulence. \n\nNot really that difficult if you have a wealth of advisors around you. \n",
"'Murica!",
"You definitely weren't aware until he pointed it out. ",
"Actually, they cant.\n\n\n1) DACA is a program to protect DREAMers — unauthorized immigrants brought to the US as children\n\nIn the 1990s to mid-2000s, the US started building up enforcement on the US/Mexico border, with a huge unintended consequence: Many unauthorized immigrants avoided repeated risky border crossings by settling in the US with their families. (Previously, unauthorized immigrants had mostly been working-age men who crossed back and forth to the US for work while their families stayed in their home countries.)\n\n\n\n--THIS PARAGRAPH RIGHT HERE EXPLAINS WHY THEY CAN'T GAIN LEGAL STATUS BEFORE DACA--\n\nAround the same time, changes to US law made it nearly impossible for an immigrant to get legal status if they’d lived in the country illegally. So the children who crossed illegally into the US with their parents were growing up in a country where they could never become legal residents or citizens.\n\nThese children became known as DREAMers, after the DREAM Act, a piece of legislation meant to give them a path to citizenship first introduced in 2001. But with that legislation stalled in Congress, President Barack Obama in 2012 created the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA. While it didn’t give them a path to citizenship, DACA offered DREAMers a temporary grant of protection from deportation and a permit to work legally in the US. The protections last two years, after which immigrants can apply to renew for them.\n\nNot all DREAMers, though, became DACA recipients. To apply for DACA, immigrants have to have come to the US before 2007, and have been 15 or younger when they arrived and younger than 31 when DACA was created in June 2012. They had to have a nearly spotless criminal record and be enrolled in high school or have a high school diploma or equivalent.\n\nPerhaps most importantly, they have to apply. It’s estimated that about 1.3 million people would be eligible for DACA, but right now, about 800,000 people actually have it.\n\n",
"Liberalism is a mental disorder and they still can't cope with not getting their way.",
"When this con artist clown was elected into office. Conservatives and liberals alike are sounding the alarm on this man (who for most of his life was a democrat)\n\nRegardless of political preference, it should be clear as day to see that this man is unfit for presidency ",
"Outside of every dumbass fucking thing he says ... every dumbass fucking policy position he supports. \n\nYou could save a whole lot of time and ask what it is that people like about him next time this opportunity pops up. ",
"your username doesn't inspire confidence. but at least we know where you stand.",
"Because if he shot someone his body count would still be double digits behind the Clintons",
"I am aware that Trump is an American politician, and thank you for the quick 101.",
"Politrics? \n\nNeeds a k, though.\n\nPolitricks...\n\nI think that's a portmanteau in need of a definition that I can't provide right now as I am monumentally buzzzzzzzed lol",
"r/pics is just as one sided as r/politics IMO",
"Hah nice try kiddo but as you can see I am a masturbator and you have failed in your mission. Nothing personal\n\n*teleports back into r/politics*",
"how did he defend neo nazis?",
"I understand your point, but it’s an exaggeration of facts. It’s known the President has no power without Congress, and they seem to oppose his most extreme ideas. But c’mon, you make him seem like a dictator, civil rights are gone now? What has actually changed in your life? Impeachable offenses? Ya mean the made up story about Russia CNN cooked up the day he won ? What about Clinton emails? Wheres the prosecution?",
"Oh ya bc having a different political view means they’re stupid. You’re so conceded, get over yourself",
"You do not know US history if you think Obama was the most divisive President in history up until Trump.",
"Lowest?! Why don't you look up obamas approval after his first year. I'll wait... queue the laugh track.",
"Yeah, fucking someone and having kids isn't a reason to respect them. Nice try derailing the discussion though.",
"“They’ll dislike stuff they don’t like.” Educated indeed!",
"Im not gonna jump of the fuck obama bandwagon. But my mortgage for my house is 300 a month. Im lucky to also have super low health coverage, 88$ a month. But most peoples mortgages are not crazy high like people are used to in west/east coast huge cities. In ALOT of america you can get a pretty okay house for 50k. \n\nAnd honestly if you are buying a house, it should be drastically less then you are used to paying for rent. Otherwise you are buying a house beyond your 'means'. ",
"You are not promoting civil and productive discussion ",
"Give him hints on how you survived 2017. Deep breathing exercises? Therapy? Xanax?",
"Question mark?...",
"So now that the CNN source is corroborated by a number of others, are you gonna learn to lend some credence to their articles?",
"Don’t more people not vote than the margin by which third party candidate loses ",
"Three words (or rather, two plus an acronym):\n\nLol sample size.",
"This is complete nonsense. Go get an education. ",
"Well well well well well\n\nr/DunderMifflin is still going strong as neither of those.\n\n",
"Thanks for caring enough to write that out. Those are valid criticisms, I admit. I just think that most criticism of trump is hypothetical or inferred. I'm not denying that he acts a fool on Twitter and purposely drums up controversy - maybe to distract the public from what's really going on, or maybe just because he's used to reality TV. Either way, the extent of his fobiles so far seems to be, he's an asshole, a president shouldnt say that! Which, while true, doesn't seem to be a huge deal in the scheme of things. \n\nThe environmental stuff is the only stuff I can't move past without a conscience. Everything else, idk. \n\n",
"Not really...",
" I feel like this is a lot more self-aware than ironic",
"He's laughing because you used the no true scotsman fallacy and also phrased it very similarly to how the fallacy is named.",
"You guys do realize that by prolonging this argument, you are only proving his point right? Because this makes you look like you can’t move on from a fair, democratic election.",
"Oh so I guess your the not shitty person on the internet? Thanks for your wisdom knight of the innerwebs.",
"Jake Tapper said the alleged comment was made when discussing the visa diversity lottery in reference to African nations. I don’t care how politically incorrect it is, accepting random immigrants from shithole countries is ridiculous and should be put to an end immediately. Merit based immigration, please and thank you.",
"Lol",
"Nothing weakens a strong and stable democracy - hell, reality as we know it - more than being unwilling to call out bad, uninformed, dangerous, or outright false ideas for what they are. ",
"You really should vote based on policy and record, not on how much the person pisses off people that you don't like.\n\nOtherwise all you get is the fleeting satisfaction of revenge which is quickly replaced with the humiliation of defeat and rejection, instead of the lasting satisfaction of self-actualization.",
"Mueller's whole team donated to obama and HRC. You're echoing so hard in that chamber of yours!",
"I simply don't know what the opposing belief is... what does Trump stand for that everyone loves? Eli5 ",
"Shots fired. /r/TheTruthHurts ",
"Nah I don’t feel like it. ",
"Our entire country was founded because people hated the king. We have the right, and the obligation, to criticize the president.",
"For strikes in a year? No. ",
"Do people not see the irony of posting this ?\nits the same exact thing, literally.\n\nHow did it go again ? a coin with two sides, something something .....\n",
"The level of Ford Pickup is important though. The F-150 is for Bro's but the F-250 is essentially a guaranteed trump vote.",
"?? youtube is the news lmao more people at the right age group would watch a youtube video than a news story",
"You say \"republicans\" as though they like Trump. Lol. He destroyed their establishment. Believe what you want. ",
" Of course I am mad. I keep fucking thinking, wishing, hoping that Trumpian swine is capable of actual fucking thought, and am too fucking stupid to properly internalize that it will NEVER fucking happen. \n\nYou people will always express spite when the option is there. You will never even fucking try to defend a political ethos. \n\nSo what in the fucking hell am I doing constantly failing to realize that not a single god damn one of you will be anything but disingenuous?\n\nYou voted for Trump. So what else **could** you value but disengenious shits?\n\nHopefully I will learn but it's unlikely. I am too fucking stupid. \n\n>This felt so good that I don't even need to masturbate LOL.\n\n.... \"I am an economics professor!!! But I literally jerk off to making people upset\"\n\nYeah. You're a fucking genius there buddy. ",
"Keep it up reddit, you're just red pilling normies by the masses. ",
"http://time.com/5039109/donald-trump-undocumented-polish-trump-tower-bonwit-teller/\n\nDonald Trump Paid $1.4 Million in a Dispute Over Undocumented Workers. Read the Newly Unsealed Legal Papers\n\nSure lets start with your boy.",
"I forgot about some of those things, lol. Thanks for contributing 👍🏻",
"I understand how the electoral college works but I’m just trying to point out that the concept of allotting all of a state’s votes to the winner doesn’t always represent American will and that he’s definitely not a shoe in for 2020 as described.",
"This encapsulates our problem as a society: political tribalism that stoops to playground insults. ",
"Definitely intentional.",
"You're claiming we don't know how the economy works.. based off your life experience. So you're an experience economist then? Because if you're telling me you aren't an economist, and you don't have a source for what you're saying, then your opinion isn't fact and I'm not going to give it the time of day.\n\nSo which is it - are you an economist, someone with a source, or someone making claims disguised as facts, but with evidence you can't provide?",
"Can you put the pipe down for two seconds please\n\n2 scenarios\n\n1. Incentivize exports\n2. Imports\n\nYou want to incentive imports by making it more economically feasible to create corporations outside the US just to sell to our consumers? ",
"Tell me how any of the recent votes in Virginia didn't matter",
"Weird, guess Keynes was wrong about the whole government expenditure leading to economic increases thing. ",
"Did you not read my post? Nothing about my post suggests that Trump's actions can be reliably proven to have a causal effect on the economy. Same goes for Obama.",
"If you're not sickened by the words that come from the mouths of Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, and Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III, then you don't know what racism means.",
"If the deep red states were to secede, literally every blue state would starve to death. Just know that.",
"So... you're saying the article you linked me is inaccurate, now? Seems like you're cherry picking a bit here. It seems to me you're willing to only accept information if it backs your point up, and you throw it out the instant it doesn't. I was surprised to see that even a million jobs were created under Trump, even though it has little to do with any policies he's made. The economy lags behind the law. Even still, several aspects of the economy under Trump haven't faltered as much as one might expect, but that's hardly the reason I dislike the man. It's mostly the blatant racism, the sex crimes that his lawyers cover up, his inability to get past the 2016 election, his endorsement of unqualified personnel to important positions, his lack of ethics in regards to people's freedoms, his incredible lack of knowledge of basically any subject you'd want a president to be knowledgeable of, etc. The dude speaks at a fourth-grade level, contradicting himself multiple times in a few sentences, back-peddling until he can fit in a word about how great he is. He's not a good president for so many reasons besides the economy, which has little to do with him in the first place.\n\nThere's obviously no way you'll ever listen to any of that, though. Even when the president calls other countries \"shit holes,\" there's still someway you'll defend that. It doesn't matter. I'm glad you find a way to be happy, there aren't a ton of ways for that to happen for a lot of people right now. Even if it's at the expense of the country, I guess.",
"Well it wasn't like DACA was the first attempt or even national push for a program. There was the initial DREAM Act in 2000, and dozens of new attempts afterwards. \n\nAnd of course I don't know what their backup plans would have been. Judging things from afar it's easy for me to say exactly what they should have done and when, but having never been in a situation that dire I try and give leeway for decisions that weren't ideal.",
"Can you add a \"squuuUUUUUAWK!\" at the beginning and end of all of your posts from now on?\n\nI think it would clarify things for a lot of people.",
"Nvm you’re clearly triggered (con artist clown) ",
"Well, there’s a lot of good reasons to dislike Trump, the people who support him and the people who voted for him. \n\nHe also continues 1 year after his election to give endless reasons to add to that list of things to dislike him and why he is unqualified for the position he ran for and now holds. ",
"GOING IN THE SHITHOLE FELLAS!",
"Shouldn't idea be in quotes and not Trump? Or are you saying Trump doesn't exist?",
"If he’s in a large group, then why does this post have more then 29,000+ Upvotes.",
"Oof. ad hominem. I'll take that win sir.",
"The majority of Germans supported Hitler. Just because a large number of people support someone, doesn’t validate a belief set. Humans have been wrong many times in history.\n\nAt the very basis, it’s wrong to discriminate against others on basis of gender, race, religion, sexuality etc. that goes against our principles and helping to keep our diverse country in tact ",
"You need to read up on the great depression. Natural events and centralized banking destroyed the US. Whereas overall Canada fared much better, despite similar natural events. ",
"Anybody want to argue about Trump and Clinton with strangers on the internet AGAIN? Maybe this time it will finally change somebody’s mind!",
"Seriously wtf is with Americans and bumper stickers",
"Never having 3% GDP growth and telling us that will never happen again is “skyrocketing”. Pfff",
"I know it hurts to be called on the carpet for having a shallow, sad life. You don't have to fake caps-lock laugh to pretend it doesn't hurt.\n\nYou should take that discomfort and turn it into motivation to get better.",
"Most of us didn’t like you with Obama, don’t forget ",
"This post is in the top 25% of stupidest fucking things I've ever read.",
"It was definitely a delayed reaction, but it makes sense. Go look up subscriber numbers historically for the big ISPs and the years that the dead previous #1 websites sprang up, you'll see a constant trend upwards starting slowly in the mid 80s with a very gentle slope until 93. With the release of cheaper pcs and the first broadband connections rolling out to consumers, and dialup becoming basically free over the following years there was an explosion in 93. (ninja edited to add: hope you don't take \"go look up\" as me being argumentative or condescending or anything, I mean it more as if you want to see this for yourself and not just take my word for it, I don't feel like doing the legwork but it's out there.)\n\nHowever, that explosion is dwarfed on the graph of progress by the absolute landslide across the average person. Think about when you were a kid, in your lifetime you saw computers go from nerds to everyone, from a work device (maybe even a homework device) to an everything device.\n\nNow use your own anecdotal evidence of how much worse things started to get in the past decade or so, and if you lay those on top of each other you'll see at some point we reached critical mass on the feedback loop that is the internet.\n\nI agree the last decade or so things have seemed to go tits up much quicker, but I think it's all tied to the 'social' part of social media, the thing that set AOL apart from prodigy and compuserve and the others at the time that it started was the focus around chatrooms, prior to this you had IRC and it was separate and not exactly easy back then.\n\nAOL had chatrooms and email in its main client used to connect, it made the internet about talking to your friends. The only thing missing was your actual real life friends being there, and today everyone is there. And chatrooms/email/BBSes which of course all still exist today, evolved into geocities - websites about me! to myspace, where everyone became tom's friend, to facebook and twitter etc.\n\ntl;dr we really agree more than you think we do.",
"I agree that it's annoying that it seems like there is something new about trump every day I come on reddit. That being said, it should also shed a light on how unhappy many people are about our president. Regardless of how well you think he has done politically, we have a president that acts like a child and says very outlandish things. He is the head of our nation and therefore represents our nation and what he is doing is making us look bad. You just can't argue against the fact that the things he has said and the racist and sexist behavior is not the behavior we want from the man who literally represents our nation and who is supposed to be the leader of it.\n\nTl;dr: the attention is because he is our president and regardless of your political beliefs, our president shouldn't be acting like this. ",
"I voted for Hillary, but you're not wrong.\n\nExcept MAYBE about the foundation. Not that it's corrupt (you're probably right about that), but the fact that they had one.\n\nIt would actually be crazy if a former President DIDN'T have one. Especially one who was so young when he got out. Makes perfect sense as none of the other candidates were former POTUS's they didn't have foundations.\n\nThe rest of what you said was right.\n\nNAFTA is a disaster, the TPP would be one, she'd have us in a war, though I believe Trump will too, starting about 2019, unless he sincerely doesn't want to be President.\n\nYou're also correct about her flip-flopping. She voted for Iraq, was against gay marriage, called black kids \"super-predators\". She's a terrible progressive.\n\nBUT, she'd be better than the asshole that's in there now. What the hell is he thinking? Is he thinking? I don't think he is. \n\nHe's a shit-golem made animate. He's appalling and embarrassing and if he doesn't want to be President he needs to resign. Like, right now. ",
"Nah, you're right. Thanks. ",
"Yep in your mind you’re winning. Congrats on establish a nice bubble where you can be an expert on everything without knowing anything about it. ",
"This is shopped there is a Hillary one just like it. ",
"We were experiencing strong economic growth under Obama's policies, and are now experiencing stronger growth under Trump, while still under Obama policies. People like to point at the current Emperor and say he's the one who made it rain, but that isn't always the case. What Trump has done is promise a brief period of deregulation before another economic collapse. It's what happens every time taxes are slashed on big businesses. It spurs short term, unsustainable economic growth which bursts....after anyone who gives a fuck has already cashed out and walked away. One banker went to jail in 2008. One. So if you want to attribute this economy to Trump, you must also be willing to pin whatever else comes onto him, as well.",
"\"Hitler did nothing wrong\" is a perfect example of why you're wrong, and should reconsider your position. ",
"oh shut the fuck up",
"I'm sorry, you're not smart enough to be talking to me. Also, a snowflake is someone who doesn't live in reality. There are only 2 genders. Now fuck off before I assume your gender and cause you to have a panic attack.",
"The fact remains that good leaders don't put down the people they're supposed to be helping",
"Fox is a the most biased network out there. They don’t even pretend not to be. ",
"It seems illogical to inflict economic hardship on one's self for emotional reasons. I'm not sure how that's a defensible policy position. \n\nI think the reasonable course of action is to listen to the experts and economists. Increase the population, either by policy facilitating young families, immigration of skilled workers, or likely both. ",
"Indeed it is ironic. That the majority of these comments and the upvotes prove the point of the top sticker.\n\n\n\nSeriously this comments section is like an un ironic version of r/killthosewhodisagree\n",
"Massive overreaction to an extremely simple/true claim that I'm regurgitating from world-class economists from the Univ. of Chicago. You're fucking weird, mate.\n\nAsk yourself one question: do you think we can predict the market's movements? (Obviously, no). Why do you think that is? Could it be that *gasp* we struggle mightily with macroecon and predicting human behavior?\n\nTry using logic for once in your pathetic life before you start drooling and yelling about sources imo.",
"Keep on calling them stupid and watch them re-elect him in 2020.",
"I could not find anything to be a bullshit lie in this. Quite well laid out... but what do you really like about Trump? I like that he is pro business. My 401K likes it as well. I hope it lasts. I need 7 more years of 20% annual ROI.",
"We disagree on the basic principle that we should take in refugees. Thus talking to you is pointless. ",
"There isn't a debate except for the people whose power depends on them creating one and also people who still don't know what behavioral economics is.",
"Yeah I was looking at some poorly made polls! Hopefully this previous election inspires people in 2020 to get out there and vote no matter what the polls say since we now know for a fact that they don’t mean a thing if the voters don’t do their job",
"But what if I want to get mad about stuff?!\n",
"Actually, I'm just tired of trying to reason people out of a position that they did not reason themselves into.",
"Hurr durr Trump is Hitler. Republicans are stoopid.",
"What a great George Carlin line. Where's the credit ?",
"I had no idea voting made half the United States objectively stupid. Thank you for your insight and we certainly learned our lesson.",
"I would’ve wrote in if my state let me. We were going Hillary (who I didn’t like) easily, and no chance in hell I was voting for Trump.\n\nJohnson despite being from my state is kind of an idiot, and Stein is full on Tumblr stupid. That’s all that was on the ballot for us if I recall correctly",
"Dang they got good wifi at the special needs center",
"I’m not taking any particular side and do not consider myself a Trump supporter, but I’ve definitely noticed the comments around here from anti-Trump folks appear to be significantly more nasty, mean-spirited, pretentious, and ad hominem than those from the other side. You guys have a lot of good points but your attitude may be invalidating any persuasive power they may have. Just my opinion and something I’ve observed... ",
"you're right, he's a smuk.\n\nthere's a million just like him.\n\nhe's literally Hitler. ",
"As many as you want, but none from me. Just a snarky comment about how I respect your right to voice your mean and stupid political opinions.",
"I have no regrets and I don't know any people who feel the way you say. And I know many. ",
"Lol no\n\nIt helps the rich, and gives a scrap to the middle class before taking away half the pie in benefits",
"Yeah you're right, its not you, its them!",
"Obama was awarded a nation peace prize for dropping bombs!\n\nEveryone was licking Obama’s boots the whole time “woo wee the first black president” \n\nThe media loved him, the fact you think Obama was the most unfairly chastised presents just makes me think you’re another boot licker statist",
"The majority of those counties are low in population rural areas. \n\nOur elected officials represent people not empty lands. ",
"Well I believe through a combination of astroturfing and leaking information, Russian resources were used to smear Trump's competition and help consolidate his victory. It would make sense that a former super power like Russia would want want to interfere in American politics since helping to install an incompetent head of state would serve to destabilize America's position with respect to geopolitics. ",
"Trolling is an art. Like graffiti.\n\nYou can do it in a really shitty and half-assed way, but one must ask: where did you find the motivation to even shake up the spray can?",
"How did he destroy their establishment? ",
"here folks is the #1 weapon, more powerful than any weapon in their entire arsenal, on how the government pits people against people, distracting us from the core of the problem..",
"Are you kidding?! Hillary would have been MILES better than trump has been. For one thing, she knows, intricately, how government works and how to get shit done. I'm not sure trump ever even took a civic class. \n\nFor another, she is able to speak to other world leaders without making the US look like a hillbilly-ridden wasteland full of intractable, anti-science idiots. \n\nBut Oh noes! Her emails!! She used the wrong server! How ridiculous does that shit sound now?",
"I thought two congressmen said they \"didn't recall\" and nobody but the white house has denied it. Not remembering it is different than a no. Just ask Jeff Sessions. ",
"Not every state allows write ins. That’s a big part of it too.",
"So you are one of those morons who thinks the electoral college should go away then? That’s what you are saying ?",
"I'm pretty shitty, tbh. It's just my particular shit isn't being an asshole as I generally am agreeable to the same things as everyone else, but I'm selfish and arrogant and not perfect at all. However, I know lots of shittier people and lots of less shitty people than me. I am probably average shittiness, but again with the number of people in the world (and on the internet) if half of them are more shitty than me that's a fucking ton of really shitty people, (edited to add) and there are more of them on the internet now than there were before cause there are more people online.",
"Why then are deep blue inner cities filled with minorities who can’t structure a sentence and contribute nothing but thousands of murders and promotion of gang/thug culture? Give me, “Gilbert,” 100/100 times over the (stolen) gun toting rappers your blue cities have produced.",
"Agreed, but when that backlash is not in the form of rebuttal but rather physical or verbal assaults as well as attacks on personal livelihood, is it not just suppression in a different form?",
"so stupid you dont even see the irony eh? lolz",
"How does data of a large white vote translate to white supremacism? Are you inferring that every white voter who voted for Trump is a supremacists? Because that is, as you know already, stupid. I hate Trump as much as the next guy but you're talking out of your ass.",
"They're evolving ",
"Makes me feel like we should start measuring intelligence based on how easy you are to con.",
"To believe it could or will work, you have to have some kind of \"goal\" that is working. The goal is to make a country's economy grow and increase overall wages/earnings etc. Trickle down economics was applied all over the country in various forms under Reagan. Saying \"lol sample size\" only makes you a complete fool, because the entire point is to have an effect on a country. That's the size. When the entire country has had the scam of trickle-down affected on it, and the entire country is worse for the wear due to that, you can't claim the \"sample size\" isn't big enough, because the entire thing you want to study/observe is in fact a part of the policy effects. In short, you have no idea what you're even saying, and are likely parroting a talking point you don't even understand. I'm wasting my time feeding trolls. I hate it when I realize that half way through.",
"I have worked around coal most of my professional life as a cultural/environmental surveyor all throughout Appalachia. I also logged and surveyed a few historic oil fields. I think I know the fucking difference. ",
"You're free to have that opinion.",
"I do say that though it's one of the reasons all this shit has got so devisive",
"In before thread is locked.",
"Weight loss before and after photos",
"But they guy who fires the guy investigating him is a straight shooter, for sure. ",
"Where's the doctor's report?",
"The problem with \"he's an asshole and the president should be above that\" kind of gaffs are that they have implications in larger society beyond just the stupid crap he espouses on twitter. Trump has made it okay to be a vocal racist. He's made it okay to be a sexual abuser. He's made it okay to espouse opinions as facts without supporting evidence, which will have far reaching and difficult to cure implications as time goes on. \n\nBut yeah if you need one thing to hate him for - climate change is the one. \n\nThanks for being open minded and being willing to look at the whole picture. You're ok in my book.",
"Remember how many people voted for Bush because they wanted to have a beer with him? How did that work out?",
">That he hasn’t advanced gun control via presidential decree like a few other people I can name\n\nObama took your guns?\n\n>That everyone on reddit crossed their arms and harrumphed a month before the election and said “If trump wins, the stock market will immediately crash and we will go into another recession” and yet here we are.\n\nStock market has nothing to do with anything \n\n>That the same people on reddit crossed their arms and harrumphed again 6 months ago and said “Obama’s economic policies will still be in effect til October, after that you’ll see the economy crash because of trump.” Yet here we are. \n\nTrump didnt pass anything yet...except for maybe something 2 weeks ago?\n\n\n>That we have a president who can’t get away with things like droning hundreds of thousands of civilians, and then refuse to disclose the actual casualty figures because no one really cares. Now people are actually observing what the government does, so if trump’s ATF gives guns to cartels or hundreds of millions of dollars in cash to Russia, or uses the IRS to target democrats, or gives a terrorist organization a pass in order to advance a nuclear agenda, or uses FISA warrants from bogus documents to spy on political opponents, people will notice and give a shit.\n\nThis is filled with so much bullshit im not going to break it down on my phone, but Fast and Furious was started by Arizona, and Bush \n\n>It’ll be interesting to see how reddit will be concerned with gun running, cash deposits to theocracies, and the targeting of political opponents for once, instead of just fawning over the presidents Ellen appearances.\n\n...or Trumps money laundering...whatever\n\n\n",
"Well they had a rally: neo-Nazis. In America. One of the most anti-nazi places I can think of. Naturally, people went to protest because fuck Nazis. The Nazis then proceeded to attack the protesters. Chaos ensued.\n\nSo who's at fault here the Nazis or the anti-nazi protesters? I'd say the Nazis, yknow because they're essentially an evil hate group.\n\nTrump's response is there's \"blame on both sides?\" But there's not, cause without Nazis none of this would have ever happened. Thus he's defended them. He's stupid but, he's not that stupid. He knows what he's saying by saying that.",
"Well, people in the west bank refer to themselves as Palestinians, have Palestinian ID’s, etc.\n\nPalestinians do exist, and I don’t take kindly to anyone telling me what to do, or what to call myself.\n\nAnd no, I wouldn’t apply for any citizenship other than the one I have, I’m happy being an American! No need for a dual citizenship.",
"Made up? Source? Lol I'll wait.",
"I despise Trump, but the irony on the guy's comment was hilarious. Hurray for shit people on both sides.",
"I get what you are saying, but that doesn’t change the fact that someone voting for a certain candidate doesn’t make them stupid, no matter how much you hate that candidate. ",
"Why?",
"I agree that this is true.",
"There's only one way to find out. Be the change you wish to see. ",
"Oh the irony? Oh the irony. Remember, the largest of groups voted against him ;)",
"There’s backlash when it’s a controversial opinion/statement that directly targets and offends people. Not all opinions have a backlash. Discourse is a good thing, but people can’t expect to be insulated from criticism of their beliefs. I can say “the sky is blue” and no one will give a shit, or I can say “the sky is blue and it’s coming to kill all X people.” In that instance it wouldn’t be unusual for someone to confront me on it because it’s an inflammatory statement. There’s a difference between the two. If you make a provocative claim, expect that you’re going to provoke people. ",
"You're the type of tardo that keeps garbage like this on the front page ",
"We have a winner. ",
"1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) at this very moment",
"Oof no true Scotsman. That's match folks.",
"It’s almost identical to the comments the last time this photo was posted. ",
"Deregulation (potentially) decreases spending, renogiating trade deals (potentially) increases revenues and reduces trade deficits, slashing gov't agencies (potentially) decreases spending. ",
"I like how you get downvoted for opening up to dialogue",
"I wish Johnson or Stein got a healthy % of the vote, not because I want either of them, but because than the big two would have some real competition in future elections and whichever party got those votes would put up real candidates.",
"I don’t know, how is that even related ",
"what's ironic about this pic lol",
"I've become so numb, I can't feel you there. Become so tired, so much more aware. By becoming this all I want to do. Is be more like me and be less like you. Basically Reddit for years now.",
"Wait you mean the actual Spirit cooking John podesta went to? Baby eating is a bit extreme and nobody said that's what was going on . Yeah that's one hundred percent legit. Also uranium one is the furthest thing from being debunked. The former president was just indicted on 11 criminal counts related to uranium one. Do you literally only read garbage spewed from one subreddit? For God's sake do your own research.",
"They found away to present selves in such a way that it was almost like they bestowed superiority on me, perhaps from a higher power /s ",
"Dude I get such a laugh everyday looking at these posts and comments that are anti Trump on the front page everyday. They refuse to believe the truth when it's right in front of them and their best weapons are downvotes! I think Reddit is a \"safe space\" that they live in a fantasy world here where Trump is guilty of everything bad! Just another day in the trenches with the cucks!",
"Now let me get this straight, we’re giving legal protection to criminals. Again, I understand it is NOT HER FAULT but it is a punishable offense. This surprised me, however. I don’t want to deport her, but I do think she should leave the US AFTER her education. I’d love to let her get citizenship, I know shes a good person, but that’s be breaking the Constitution, giving citizenship to a criminal. \n\nIt’s a difficult subject because these people are American in their daily lives, but are still felons and should be prosecuted as such",
"And CNN completely objective. No biases at all, right? ",
"Reddit is one of the only places these salty liberals still have any sort of \"power\". You stick to downvoting, we'll stick to making this country a better place for you parasites. Now channel all of your angst and spam the downvote button! It will really ruin my day!",
"It's also funny how under the Clinton administration we had a surplus. Since then, it has been deficit after deficit for each fiscal year.\n\nI believe Obama's executive action was wholly agreed to be good for the economy. Back in Obama's terms the republican Tea Party/ultra conservative movement had been making a fool of themselves and it was generally agreed that their actions were hurting the country.\n\nIt was a combination of media attention shifting to the massive overreaction and failure of the Tea Party and the relative success of the plans passed under executive action that lead to less scrutiny.\n\nHonestly, centrism is the best way to go. This country was originally built on a foundation of compromise, but lately its been turned into all-or-nothing debates for each party. In turn, this has lead to further party polarization and division. I fear there is no way to stop this unless the media does something for unity instead of viewers.",
"yeah there are not many people in this thread with and argument past you're stupid and wrong, it's always reworded in some way but always the same message. ",
"I wouldn't worry about it, I doubt anyone who still supports trump knows what irony is. ",
"Seems like everywhere I turn there’s some conservative troll calling anyone and everyone a “libtard” leftist cuck. \n\n\nI feel there’s a double standard for anything pro liberal. ",
"Whataboutism, i was against obama as well.",
"The GDP has doubled. I guess Obamanomics kick in after the 9th year? Momentum my ass lmao limp wristed douche literally looked Carrier workers in the face and said, “your jobs aren’t coming back, no matter what Trump says. What magic wand does he have?” Abracadabra, bitch!",
"Face palm to you sir",
"Allow me to provide you with some hay for your straw man.",
"Define stupid.",
"Pastafarianism",
"Smh",
"The worst presidential approval rating in recorded history?!?\n\nThis does not bode well for the liberals! No sir!\n\nBest start the flow of tears now! It will only get worse.",
"But he doesn't seem triggered at all. The fact that such a dumb comment like yours got upvoted tells me all I need to know about who's doing the insane upvoting and downvoting that takes place on the default subs particularly on political posts.\n\nIncoming mass downvotes I'm sure.",
"Oh the political butthurt by OP.\n\nIf Hillary won the stock market wouldn't still exist by this point and we'd all be speaking Russian.",
"Was whoareyou 1-30 taken or are you just that creative? lol I didn't know I was dealing with an intellectual!",
"Savvy enough to get away with murder and grand theft, but not savvy enough to beat Trump? You see how people might not understand how that all adds up, right?",
"You mean like the group of people who thought Hilary would be president? ",
"You think he was trying to defend himself? ",
"Well, only my black friends who were gang members supported Obama. This comment thread will just be full of triggered people.",
"Cue the long winded both sides are the same argument.",
"i'm committing karma suicide but i just came back from a really fucking bad day and i'm just gonna throw in my two cents instead of keeping quiet about it anymore.\n\nhillary wins popular vote, loses electoral college.\n\nprotests ensue, millions marching in the streets making national news and destroying large amounts of property in unprecedented numbers, as least in recent times.\n\ndemocrats have been at each others throats during the obama administration so a lot of things that were supposed to be considered were cut off due to the party being split. republicans got their way because they could get the numbers.\n\nleft-wing media popularity going down the toilet for the past few years. apparently people don't want to see a rehash of trump's twitter feed. can't imagine why.\n\nleft wing media finally realizes the dnc are insulting trump and not pushing a real platform and they need to get moving or they will lose power to the point where trump can basically push whatever he wants if he can get enough republicans on board.\n\nnot an insult to you or your intelligence, but this really does accurately describe a ton of the country and people don't realize it. it honestly baffles me that people could be this out of touch with reality that we are getting nowhere in political debate and it's come down to republican superiority because their platform is stable and they can come to agreements on most issues.\n\ni'm not sure how many votes it's going to take before the left realizes they need to step up and sell us on key issues but they're losing their ability to really fast. even cnn and nbc are saying that insulting trump isn't something that gains support for the party.\n\ntrump's popularity is falling, and i think that's a high of 35%. just wait till midterms after that tax bill. he'll get back up there.\n\nbefore you say that the tax bill is bad, that isn't a great point to sell on, though it is probably true. people will like seeing more money. just sells better. all there is to it. if they don't see that money and they end up paying more, maybe the left will have a chance. as it stands, this guy has a point that the left really is committing suicide and they need to get a move on before midterms.\n\ni'm a liberal, by the way. if that suppresses comments that i'm a trump supporter.",
"He really did. Thanks fellow boom spotter. ",
"Kinda rude to call people who support Trump idiots. You seem a bit intolerant.",
"Pull your head out of your ass, then reach up there and turn CNN off.",
"I am not going to disagree with that because it is true. However my initial post was about not wanting to see political opinions on r/pics",
"It was like choosing your method of execution. Ugh. ",
"Not really an insult or making a point since most Americans will see more money in their pockets from the breaks. A majority actually. Where they are fucked is 10 years down the line when they lose their breaks and the rich keep theirs. So to ask that now won't prove your point cause they'll say \"great! I got $500 more!\" Not realizing the wool has been pulled over their eyes. In this scenario you're both idiots.",
"President Trump is one of the inevitable outcomes of the combining of news and entertainment in the US. It isn't the only reason he was elected but it I think infotainment explains part of it. \n\n\n\n\n\n",
"Are you seriously asking how Trump destroyed the Republican establishment? Wow. This conversation is over if you don't know that. Have a good night. ",
"Thanks, Obama",
"I can't wait to waste my time getting into political arguments with people I will never meet or have a chance at changing anyones mind. ",
"Wasn't this posted like 3 weeks ago? Am I going crazy? Is this real life?",
"What makes a person stupid then?",
"Yes. That I very much agree with, but that’s not what I’m advocating. ",
"I mean... how do you... wow. You're so much worse than I thought, it's actually hard to find words to explain just how stupid this sentence is. Let me do a ELI5 for you:\n\nTrump is pals with Putin. Putin is the leader of the communist country, Russia. Putin is ex-KGB, a Russian spy organization. Putin has been accused of interfering with elections in no fewer than 19 countries, including the United States. Whether or not he's responsible for the president being in office, when the man is accused of interfering with American democracy, it's absolutely inappropriate for the President of the United States to be \"friends\" with a spymaster Communist interloper like Putin.\n\nWhen you support Trump, you support Putin. Pretty easy to follow, no? So, when you support Trump, and then laugh impotently and call Bernie Sanders a Communist, when he's a Democratic Socialist (huge, huge difference,) you look like an idiot. I'm not sure I can simplify this any further. Hopefully you were able to follow that.",
"I can't be bothered.",
"Literally Google what past presidents have done , then Google what Trump has done...I guess the moon landing is nothing compared to what Trump has done, or maybe some how you think Trump made that happen? ",
"I will and I'm am definitely more engaged than I ever have been. So I will remember this if it does come to pass. We need to cut spending and cut taxes we've got the taxes now we need to slash the bloated government and waste and I think we will be alright.",
"1.8%, 3.1% and 3.2% if the first link on Google for \"US quarterly GDP growth\" is correct",
"\"Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.\"\n\n -- Richard Stallman",
"China, russia, india. And the un is steering clear. Also im sure canada and mexico. The foreign aid we give doesnt account for the raw material we recieve from those countries at cheap prices.",
"Why would you insult my grammar? You think it’s cool to pick on people less educated than yourself? Interesting. \n",
"Trumpism isn’t a political belief it's a cult of personality.",
"\"I'm technically correct, which means *you're* wrong!\"",
"This just in, liberals don't approve of Trump! Breaking news! He will surely resign now!",
"**The entire world is triggered. And by triggered I mean laughing at how much of a fool Trump is making himself look. \n\nIt ain’t just the liberal or democrats who see the bull shit ",
"In a normal election, libertarians might find themselves agreeing with the right on economic issues and the left on social issues. But in this election, Trump went against nearly every economic issue that libertarians ordinarily support. And he went against pretty much 100% of the social issues that libertarians support. So any of three choices would be more consistent with libertarian values: voting for Clinton, voting for Johnson, or staying home and watching *Parks and Rec*.",
"Stay on topic. \n\nIf your dad owned key real estate around the country at a time when real estate was cheap, and then that real estate exploded, all you literally have to do is not sell it off for hookers and cocaine and you would be a billionaire ",
"That's quite a case of denial you have there",
"The Trump administration also has used private emails. So no, they wouldn't. ",
"and never campaigned to be won.",
"As long as you're not white then obvs yeah.",
"Bye Felicia ",
"Also trump only had 1.2 million votes more in Texas so you are wrong again. ",
"I’ve already seen the increase on my paycheck and got a $1,500 bonus and an offer to move to a new branch we’re opening as a result of the corporate tax rate being slashed from 35% to 21%. No trickling here. The floodgates are open.",
"Mic drop",
"Respectfully, I am having a bit of trouble understanding how Trump has succeeded in strengthening capitalism within America, aside from being a proponent of a number of tax breaks and other policies which all seem to directly target a rather small percentage of Americans, specifically those who control the majority of the wealth that is currently distributed among Americans.\n\nAs for reasonable nationalism, I'd also appreciate if you'd be able to clarify what that entails?",
"Send for Julius for a good time.",
"If this had a bumper sticker that said Republican instead of Trump then I'd agree. We're well past politics in regards to the piece of human excrement that is Trump. He's a fucking horrible disgusting piece of garbage, not a politician. \n\nThis isn't about political affiliations - Trump used to claim Dem didn't he? Who the fucks knows because he's such a lying piece of shit.",
"I tell people this all the time - whatever you think of Trump supporters, they think the same exact thing about you and vise versa. Each side thinks the other is racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. They just manifest their vices differently.",
"Ahh the 'ol \"You're stupid\" political argument.\n\nHow's that working out for you?",
"Mate, you're claiming it's impossible for us to tell how the economy is doing or has done historically.. that's inconceivably ignorant. \"World class econ from Uni of Chicago\".. so you're using a college class as a source to support your opinion. \n\nIf you're wondering why I'm giving you the third degree, it's because anyone can push their opinion as fact. If you KNOW that your opinion is correct, and is in fact a FACT, then you can find a source for it, and you can share it for the rest of us to read. Otherwise, you're throwing your opinion around like it is a fact when it isn't. You don't have a source (econ 101 is not a source ffs) to support your claim. Until you do, your opinion will stay an opinion. ",
"Can we not",
"So just no desire to debate then? That's fair enough I suppose, but it seems a little hypocritical. \n\nStill, I'm an athiest and I now refuse to debate religious folk, so I can understand your position.",
"Are you suggesting nobody is ever wrong? We all just have alternative facts? \n\nKellyanne?",
"was INTZ-Art-Graffiti taken or you just don't know how to spell graffiti? \n\nLOL... you didn't think that one through did yall? Pipe down and stop embarrassing Trump supporters ",
"What was it reacting to in the previous 8 years of growth?\n\nDid you only just start paying attention to economic indicators in the last few months?",
"Why don't you unsub?",
"Trump has pledged to overturn Roe v Wade with his Supreme Court nominations, has tried to bar trans people from the military, is close to deporting Dreamers, and tried repealing healthcare for millions of American. \n \nI feel like the comment is trying to draw attention to the fact that these decisions do have a real world impact on Americans, and aren’t just ideological differences. ",
"> It's criticizing this guys political beliefs to make him look stupid.\n\nSo? He's content with calling others stupid with his bumper sticker, so what's wrong with saying it about him?",
"Not voting for the lesser evil is half a vote for the greater evil. \n\n",
"Only after you pull the head out of your ass and turn Fox News off. Seriously? I'm not even a democrat, dipshit.",
"Trump brought most those Carrier jobs (that’s who Obama was speaking to in the speech Im referencing) back before being sworn in.",
"While they must be held hostage by your morals, right?",
"You should vote for a candidate based on their record, not whether or not you like them. Trump had zero experience in government, a dubious record as a businessman, mob ties, and a checkered personal life. You could probably pick a random person out of the phone book who would have done a better job governing.",
"So you obviously don't know people that I know. Huh. What a fucking concept.",
"> than the one that sells 20% of the US weapons grade uranium potential to Russia\n\nI don't know why people keep bringing this up when it's been debunked numerous times. Just a simple google check would've clarified this incident.\n\nhere's a website:\nhttps://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/\n\n>It is also important to note that other federal approvals were needed to complete the deal, and even still more approvals would be needed to export the uranium.\n\n>But there is no evidence that the donations or the speaking fee had any influence on the approvals granted by the NRC or the Committee on Foreign Investments.\n\nTo sell the uranium, approval from **several** federal agencies AND Committee on Foreign Investments must approve it. It would be extremely difficult for Hillary, then Secretary of State, to influence all those agencies and the committee. Think how much \"inconveniences\" the FBI, an agency that is under the president's direct orders, is giving Trump now with the ongoing investigations.",
"I don't agree with your initial premise. The private sector was expecting a Clinton win. \n\nYou absolutely can credit quite a bit of Trump's first year to Obama. Trump policies don't go into effect until this year. Do you credit the recession to Obama? \n\nI don't doubt there's some extra growth because of Trump but the lion's share of growth would have happened regardless of who became president.",
" I feel like they did that on purpose though",
"Yes it’s exasperated by the Internet but honestly every election in my memory has been the “most divisive ever”. They just matter less to us because it’s in the past.",
"What is sad is that they were the best both parties had to offer.",
"Your definition is incomplete. He or she is referencing a well known palindromic sentence.",
"If you want to talk about funds, how about the funds spent for his golf trips????? My issue is that it's obvious we have the resources and social services FOR AMERICANS are being cut by him. ",
"It’s interesting to me that it is deemed important that rural people need extra voting power to avoid being oppressed by urban people, but no other potentially disenfranchised group is deemed worthy of such protection. Why not put a finger on the scales for blacks or gays or non-Christians?\n\nIt’s also interesting that the “not representative of the entire country” concept literally places value on land area over people. Good thing all that empty soil is getting heard over those tiny flats in the city.",
"It's a fallacy when the actual.definition of something is based on opinion. In this case, it is not. Words mean things, and you can say you're a vegan while you eat a steak if you want, but you'll look like a fool.",
"It's a good quote. I underestimated them and then they rigged the democratic primary against Bernie. I'll never underestimate stupid people in large groups again.",
"this guy fucks",
"Please detail all the *scientific* experiments that have been done on trickle-down economics. Link me to all the studies where there has been a proper control group on a proper scale to mimic the complexities of the global economy.\n\nOh wait, you literally can't. It's impossible to account for all the confounding factors.\n\nI was referring to sample size, meaning the *number of times* trickle-down policy has been enacted. You're pointing to *one* example and failing to account for hundreds of confounding factors.\n\nAnd yet somehow I'm the troll? Ffs. Get on my level, pls.",
"You think lack of immigration had a meaningful contribution to the depression? Where on earth have you gotten this glorified view of immigration from?\n\nYou’re ignoring my point about contrary and complementing cultures. America was built on European Christian immigration. So was Australia, Canada and New Zealand. This works. However it didn’t work out so well for the natives due to the contradictory nature of the two cultures. Because the migrants outnumbered them and eventually overran them, that’s what happens. \n\nIt didn’t work in colonial Africa. Again the European migrants had contrary cultures to the natives. But this time the natives out numbered them, by millions. There’s been no harmony reached in 500 years between these two cultures in Africa. It hasn’t worked. You get conflict. It isn’t working between Israel and the surrounding nations. Major conflict is inevitable. It’s not working in Myanmar with the rohinga people. Again conflict. India and Bangladesh. The list goes on. \n\nAll through human history contrary culture immigration has created conflict and only reached a level of harmony once one is soundly beaten or becomes overwhelmingly dominant. \n\nSo you can’t simply say immigration is a net benefit. “Some” immigration is. Controlled immigration is. ",
"You know that Carrier laid people off as soon as the press died down right? lol \n\nhttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/carrier-plant-layoffs-worker-thought-trump-would-save-her-job-n836261\n\nhttp://www.syracuse.com/business-news/index.ssf/2018/01/carrier_layoffs_trump_deal_jobs.html\n\nhttps://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/carrier-employees-soon-to-be-laid-off-feel-betrayed-by-donald-trump",
"Lol the alt-right is doing a great job of destroying the right wing. You think you’re helping your cause by acting like petulant children all over the Internet? The vast majority of people think you’re pathetic.",
"Crediting Trump for the economy is like letting a little kid sit at the front of a plane that's on autopilot and then praising his flying skills.\n\nHe literally didn't pass any economic legislation of any kind until the tax bill a month ago. And the first fiscal year of his presidency started in October.\n\nA golden retriever could be president and we would have the same economy we have now.",
"r/PoliticalHumor leaked I see ",
"I am well aware, yes.\n\n\nBut the truth is not respective to what he thinks.",
"But states are arbitrary. If state lines were different, it would still be the majority of the population. I just don't see why random state lines should affect how much my vote is worth.",
"Yes, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that many people saw Trump as the lesser of two evils. That doesn’t make them dumb for having that opinion.",
"Damn dude, did you lose your shit? Take a break and wipe your ass.",
"Dr. Brule?",
"r/PoliticalHumor",
"Just like America!",
"https://www.epa.gov/planandbudget/budget\n\nThey’ve received at least $2 billion every year since 1977. And I know how to spell impeach, just working on my typical Reddit leftist impression.",
"Because for many people normal life is shit... duh... that was the whole point.",
"haha all Trump voters are stupid. People like me who voted for Clinton or Bernie are much smarter! HAHA!",
"could you please elaborate?",
"> There isn't a debate except for there is obviously a debate\n\nTranslated your post for you. If you think there aren't highly intelligent economists on both sides of the trickle-down argument, you're a fucking ostrich.",
"I thought this pic was commenting on the irony of someone lamenting powerful, stupid people while supporting Trump, the definition of powerful and stupid. ",
"My point is the EPA does jack shit.",
"If this post offends you then good. Maybe do some research before you vote next time.",
"Good points. This is why I asked that question - I was hoping someone would give me some legitimate points to mull over. I've been seeing all the low effort trump bashing and starting to feel secure in thinking all criticism against him is superficial. I do remember I used to be vehemently opposed to him, but I was starting to forget why. I guess all this right wing news i've been reading has started to skew my thinking (who would've thought?) Anyway I appreciate the civil discourse. You're ok in my book too. ",
"No u",
"They were protesting well before Obamacare ever came around. Look it up, the 2009 tax march on Washington. The movement was entirely organized to undermine *anything* Obama did.",
" That would imply that Trump is also a conservative. The only thing I truly support President Trump on is his rhetoric on immigration policy. Unfortunately (but probably fortunately for you), his actions do not match his rhetoric on immigration. I have no interest in government subsidised healthcare (at least at the federal level). I do support an increase of taxes for infrastructure spending. I prefer private schools and send my own kids to one. I think charter schools are a better option for those who can't afford private schools. I do not like public schools. ",
"Reeeeeeeee",
"Those points may be somewhat valid, and look, I'm not against you, not at all. I am not out to make you fail. I am just more well off than most people. Between my house, investments, assets and income I've got over $1M at risk. So I am not out to ruin you or anyone else. I am simply in it for myself, just as we all are. I want to take care of my family and that's it. Trump is allowing me to have a rapid accumulation of wealth at this time, and I'm going to take advantage of it until it no longer works. You should too. ",
"Why do you think they're all bad?",
"For you...",
"“Everyone who disagrees with my fake news is literally being paid to do it.”",
"Maybe it was a threat and not a warning.",
"I'm getting dowvoted for using false equivalency, but I don't think it's fair or honest to say that one side is \"all-evil\" while one side is \"all-good\". Especially since both sides see themselves as \"all-good\" while they see the other as \"all-evil\". One man's hero is another man's villain and all that. We're in a civil war right now. True, there's been no secession, but it's a much more subtle war than that, being fought at the cultural level.",
"When warning becomes threat",
">This just in, liberals don't approve of Trump!\n\nLiberals outnumber conservatives at a whopping 41% advantage?\n\nBetter than I thought.\n\n>He will surely resign now!\n\nWho cares if he resigns? He is hilariously incompetent and destined to be a one term president if he isn't impeached.\n\nHis primary accomplishment so far is ballooning the deficit and giving the spoils of war to the rich and the spoileds of war to the middle class.\n\nIf he isn't impeached, so much the better. It is only preventable by a GOP suicide pact. I can live with a GOP suicide.",
"Yes, coming to that conclusion makes them stupid, ill-informed, or both. ",
"If you don't think everyone is going to be negatively affected by climate change, I suggest you take some economics and science classes. Even for wealthy people in wealthy countries, prices of good will go up. There *are* consequences for everyone.",
"cheese pizza & adrenalized blood motivates even the laziest of hood rats 👌🏻 ",
"It’s a pretty broad sub. You can go elsewhere if you’re looking for something specific. ",
"You should list everything that is happening that doesn't benefit American citizens.",
"Happy Holidays ",
"Not if trumpcare ever gets passed. ",
">> There isn't a debate except for people's whose $$$ and power depend on there being a debate or people who have no fucking idea what they're talking about\n\nTranslated my post for you.\n\n>If you think there aren't highly intelligent economists on both sides of the trickle-down argument, you're a fucking ostrich.\n\nThe only economists who are still on the pro-trickle-down side are idiots who still steadfastly refuse to leave solely positive theory to engage in a shred of normative theory.",
"The country you come from doesn’t define your race. Way to build your argument on a false premise. ",
"Yeah cuz I'm sure whatever views you hold aren't stupid at all",
"As the murder capital of the world, Caracas Venezuela is a shithole country.",
"Not quite a majority, but still, a large group. ",
"I just wanna make sure I understand this. You make a generalization that encompasses half of the country, calling them racist and ignorant. You get on a soap box and spout your misguided, close-minded, condescending opinions to everyone on a humor subreddit. You call my opinions toxic before you've even heard them, and I'm the one with the problem? Projection much? I'd love to argue with you, but I'm just gonna watch the rockets game while my country enjoys a giant economic boom that you probably said would never happen unless we tax those damn evil rich people at 40 percent. ",
"even npr admitted 85% (mostly poor and working class) of americans wills see more money this year. that is what he ran on. call him out on everything else but this is something good. ",
"> Mate, you're claiming it's impossible for us to tell how the economy is doing or has done historically..\n\nSTOP RIGHT NOW and quote where I said this. Quote it. Right now.",
"My father used to say that all the time. I thought about it quite a bit during the campaign.",
">\tBaby eating is a bit extreme and nobody said that's what was going on\n\nBullshit, all of my conservative ex-friends threw around the “she literally eats babies on pizza” like a trillion times. Why do you subhumans always lie?",
">I underestimated them and then they rigged the democratic primary against Bernie. I'll never underestimate stupid people in large groups again.\n\nHow many people rigged the democratic primary against Bernie and in what way?\n\nWhat is your definition of \"large\" anyway?",
"Lol woah you really proved him wrong with that comment. ",
"It also seems like people fail to empathize with the \"other side\" because they've associated their opposition with evil or simply stupidity. It's all pretty childish once you think about it.",
"Exactly, stupid people, en mass, did something stupid. ",
"They just don’t like my attitude. Normally, I have to point out when somebody says that that there is no such thing as a national popular vote. Now, they get all pissy about it!",
"I'm not the guy that you replied to, but multiple Trump supporters in my life have told me thats what they want. I've been told by these people that America was great during the era of Jim Crowe Laws and segregation. I know this is just anecdotal evidence, but the only people I know that use the N word seriously are Trump supporters. The racist Trump supporter stereotype doesn't apply to every single Trump voter, but it's enough of them that it's a trend amongst people I know in real life and talk to on the internet. ",
"Yea...when will we hate both parties equally and kick all their asses out?",
"I'll copy paste another comment of mine:\n\n>The electoral college predates democratic votes for president. Ironically, it was an institution created to ensure that illiterate farmers didn't vote for an incompetent demagogue because they didnt know any better. As the title of this post says, \"oh, the irony\"\n\nYes, it needs to go. It's modern implementation is a monstrosity compared to its original intention and it does not serve its purpose.\n\n",
"lol nobody tell him about the crash that’s going to happen because of the tax plan",
"Sometimes you just gotta get down and dirty and do that trenchwork man. I was actually like +30 for a while before the shill storm came through.",
"it's like he is on the verge of two moments coming together in a beautiful marriage to create a smart, self-aware comment. but then you realize its a complete shitty coincidence glued to the back of his truck.",
"Oof lack of industry knowledge but thinking you know what it means! Classic! Now let me buy you a beer so you can teach me all things neckbeard",
"> when he's a Democratic Socialist (huge, huge difference,)\n\nlel",
"> There is definite regret there, but there is also satisfaction. It’s weird to see it occur simultaneously in people.\n\nIt's not that weird. I can completely understand regretting that Trump was the only other legitimate option while also being satisfied that Clinton didn't win.\n",
"Try to pick a source that's not dripping with bias next time lol, that list may as well be called \"81 things Trump did that we think are great, 11 thinks Obama did that we think sucked\"\n\nRight off the bat the first fucking sentence \n\n> With the passage of the GOP tax bill this week, the Trump administration has scored 81 major achievements in its first year\n\nDon't discuss the intricacies of the bill, just call it a \"major achievement\" before we even see it's fucking consequences.\n\n> And along the way, President Trump even outdid his own expectations and slashed at least 11 major legacy items of former President Barack Obama, including cracking down on the open border, slowing recognition of communist Cuba and effectively killing Obamacare by ending the mandate that everyone have health insurance or face a tax.\n\nAgain... who is deciding that these are good things.... I see no research or linked sources discussing the **impact** these decisions will have or if they're even implemented well. \"cracking down on the open border\" is so fucking broad.\n\nEither you're trolling or legitimately can't see the bias in the source you linked (I don't know which is more sad...)\n\nhttps://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/",
"...yeah, that's a pretty big one lol\n\nI feel bad because I know people that mean well and are considerably smart who voted Trump, yet somehow they were able to ignore his stances on such ridiculous matters.\n\nBut I stand by my belief that, I think for many if not most voters, it was all about voting for the devil that they knew. I voted Hillary and it seemed obvious to me she was far more suitable for the job, but I can see how many would feel alienated or alarmed by her.\n\nTrump pandered to *everybody* and he spoke like a regular human being (granted, a smarmy one) and was able to pitch ideas in an easily absorbable manner. I imagine this was comforting for some, and felt as an opportunity for change for others.",
"Ridiculousness is a spectrum and the Trump supporters are much further along that spectrum than non-Trump supporters. That's an extremely important distinction and belies the false equivalency.",
"Idk, but I don’t think it’s fair to label a large percentage of the population stupid for their political opinions, but Reddit loves to do it all the time.",
"https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#1003b97b7878",
"Let's not pretend it's impossible for one side to just be wrong.",
"He destroyed it so much that he signed the tax cuts they wanted. ",
"LOL PEOPLE I DISAGREE WITH ARE STUPID XDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!",
"What if I said vaccines cause autism.",
"So what you're actually doing is celebrating that it hasn't gotten worse? You guys have ran out of excuses for him to the point of just picking out what hasn't gotten worse and using that?",
"It's adorable watching you try to rationalize how incredibly unpopular your pissant little viewpoint is. ",
"You can filter it out. The bot at the top of this page tells you how to.",
"> It typically takes under 3 years for the US economy to adjust to changes a new president makes.\n> \n> **Wildly false and based on nothing but conjecture.** We don't have macroecon figured out. Human behavior is extremely difficult to predict.\n\nThere you go. ",
"If Trump were a liberal democrat I’d be just as appalled by his behavior and want him to step down. There’s a lot of mentally ill Trump trolls on here that get a thrill from pissing people off on the Internet (mostly people that have been rejected/abused and/or not given loving care from parents)..\n\nThe vast majority of Americans are at least somewhat sane and see Trump’s bull shit.",
"Ahh, I see. So 2 million people in 400 square miles should be measured the same as 2 million people spread across another few million square miles. You have shown me the light, praise cuck.",
"My job that just increased our hire on wage to $11/hr is wal mart. \n\nThat's 4 over minimum for most states. Yeah fuck my job right.",
"shithole countries are shitholes because the people who populate them suck.",
"The irony is that this sub thinks this car bumper stickers are ironic.\n",
"I bet you are miserable all the time",
"But why when reddit can push it's agenda right here?",
"If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and calls nazis \"very fine people\" like a duck...",
"I... don't think this is irony. These two stickers are a perfect match.",
"I guess it's up to you to decide. But to me, and millions of others these are all major accomplishments.",
"it could just be self-aware, instead or ironic.",
"How that translates to generalising all trump supporters as racists and fascists is the mind boggling part. ",
"Super edgy",
"The comment was too dumb to address. The boom was fair game",
"But count on them to be voting democratic!",
"Don't blame the industry for your stupidity.",
"Trump will get 4 years, maximum 8. Not only will he not exterminate a group of people but he probably won’t do anything that can’t be reversed with future legislation. You people are insane.",
"0 - 1 for this guy. ",
"No their first political exposure was likely the Marxist indoctrination they received at their public schools. Luckily they took a look at the disastrous milennials and decided they wanted no part of that nonsense.",
"Hahaha 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂",
"I'll call you a doofus when you say doofus things. He was fundamentally wrong. It wasn't a disagreement. It was just wrong. ",
"Too bad it's only temporary unless you're rich or a corporation",
"Someone has to. ",
"But it was really that funny to me. More then usual.",
"Were you simply not paying attention for the last 8 years? Or did you just lap up whatever bullshit the right wing media circus today told you about how terrible the economy was and how bogus the low unemployment numbers were?\n\nNow magically everything is awesome. \n\n",
"Lol its cool dude. I really dont care for anything you have to say. ✌\n\nAnd you making excuses for him wasting time and tax money golfing is just stupid.",
"Of course you'll never address my 100% true statement:\n\n>If you think there aren't highly intelligent economists on both sides of the trickle-down argument, you're a fucking ostrich.\n\nEnjoy living out your life as an ostrich while I stay woke. The air is nice up here.",
"I'm a teacher. \n\nYou want a fucking list? ",
"Yep. He says dumb stuff and is by no means eloquent but he really is doing some good things. ",
"Benghazi, emails, etc. Take your pick. They have their made-up reasons, but the biggest reason is brainwashing. Rush Limbaugh and all the other pundits have been telling them for 30 years that the Clintons are absolutely corrupt and untrustworthy.\n\nAt this point, the Heavens could part and God, Himself, could proclaim Hillary as His only-begotten daughter, and they'd finally be convinced beyond all doubt that she is the anti-Christ. Nothing will ever convince them otherwise.",
">\tWhataboutism\n\n\"but what about her emails!?\" You mean like that?",
"That's racist because it's true.",
"For starters? How about his whole “draining the swamp” promise that he made to voters.. only to have extremely unqualified and/or biased people as heads of things they will brutally mess up.\n\nSuch as Scott Pruitt of the EPA who, in the span of 4 years took $215,574 from leaders in the fossil fuel industry and also rejects scientific evidence of humans having a heavy impact on climate change. (\n\nOr Betsy Devos, Secretary of Education, who went to a private school for her high school career. Not only does she not understand the situations that the average American student go through, she also has terrible ideas about improving the safety and cost of schools.\n\nShall we talk about him pushing tax laws that will personally help him gain more money? How about we talk about him trying to stop an investigation dealing with collusion multiple times. I could go on..",
"Why? Because the driver’s political views differ from your own?",
"It’s funny you call her Hittlary when Trump’s rise to power is the closest to Adolf Hitler’s in the 21st century, spewing bigoted, nationalistic rhetoric to give the scared racists a voice and a platform AND is the primary aggressor in what seems like an imminent third world war. I know you guys like your little words like “cuck” and “libtard” to bust your alt right nuts all over each other’s acne-ridden faces but that doesn’t really work outside of your echo chamber nazi safe space of a sub. Learn your shit. Hillary is half as corrupt as Trump (and I’m not saying she wasn’t corrupt) but Trump never held public office so his corruption just doesn’t matter to you. You voted for a reality TV star with a half dozen bankruptcies under his belt and probably said you did it because he’s a good businessman. And the country is suffering because of that vote. ",
"It's not about attitude it's about facts ",
"Could just be self awareness ",
"Responding to your points would take too much time and you would ignore it anyways. Anyone who thinks Trump isn't hurting Americans is either dilusional, self centered, and/or shares the views of this asshole of a president. \n\nIf I was still in the Marines I would probably be turning big rocks into smaller rocks for a long long time.",
"Just because you don't know what a word means, doesn't mean you get to ignore it and laugh.",
"It's almost as if you believe you know every single detail about him",
"Zinger! Oof ow I'm hurt, can we fuck now or are you gonna continue to sit here and cocktease me you dirty slut",
"You’re quickly becoming my favorite redditor.",
"The wall thing? Isn’t going to work. Spending billions on a wall? Lmfao no. \n\nI do agree with looking into who comes in our country more. That’s fine, and putting a stop to the damn anchor baby bullshit. Yes. \n\nHowever, I do do my research and I just don’t agree with majority of shit he and the rest of the GOP are doing. Like dismantling NN, Pot yes should be decriminalized and legal recreationally and have an age limit to consume. \n\nThe planned parenthood debate? The GOP can gtfo of. It should be choice to have an abortion and PP Does more than just that. Funding and aide shouldn’t be cut from that. \n\nTheir Tax bill? Is a fucking joke. Nothing ever trickles down. And the tiny bit that does goes right back to them because every one who needs it to trickle down are struggling pay check to pay check. \n\nThere’s a lot of inequality, racism is still alive and well and Trump never tells the white power fucks to fuck off. \n\n\nBut again it’s a long fucking list. ",
"\"I'm a Palestinian who supports Israel\"\n\nTranslation: \"I'm completely full of shit\"",
"The fact that this isn't understood is concerning. It's as if people think every economist has just settled on the Keynesian model and think supply side has been discredited. When in fact this is far from the case. Speaks wonders about the intentional lack of education in econ the masses receive.",
">but I don't think it's fair or honest to say that one side is \"all-evil\" while one side is \"all-good\"\n\nYeah, nobody is saying that.\n\n>Especially since both sides see themselves as \"all-good\" while they see the other as \"all-evil\".\n\nYeah, nobody is seeing that.\n\n>One man's hero is another man's villain and all that.\n\n\"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.\"\n\n--Socrates",
"Nope, [The 2009 Taxpayer March](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxpayer_March_on_Washington) occurred in September 2009, many months after Obama had outlined his plan and right at the peak of [the public and congressional debates](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/us/politics/10obama.html).",
"Common misconception but Trump supporters aren’t human 😇",
"I was banned forever from /worldnews because a said a positive Trump comment. So there's that. Did you hear that Fiat Chrysler is moving a plant from Mexico to Michigan creating more American jobs? No? I didn't think so. Cause it's all about small hands or something like that.....",
"I'll grab popcorn and we can call it *controversy and pre-marital heresy* \n\n",
"That list in extraordinarily long, I asked you to do something far easier, in fact, you nearly already did it by listing nothing.",
"This place is a shithole",
"I'm not saying it was the only cause, but it certainly didn't help to artificially limit economic growth.",
"Bye have a wonderful time.",
"Not at all inaccurate. I'm saying it was from half way through the year.. it. Wasn't written at the end of 2017... All your ethics and moral stands are just useless, like beating a dead horse. Like really man, you think that shit holds any water at all? No. I would a million times over have someone tell me the harsh truth over sweet lies. And if that comes in the form of \"shithole\" so be it.",
"Ballooning the deficit? Are you high? Obama doubled the deficit and Trump's growth in 2017 was half of Obamas. \n\nTrump's time in office has been being undermined and sabotaged before he even step foot in office. How many leaks did Obama have? How many behind closed doors talks were leaked when Obama was in office? People are actively trying to ruin Trump and the media is running with stories even if there is no corroborating evidence or evidence at all. Despite all that, he still is going strong. Companies bringing jobs back, big tax breaks for the middle class, companies giving bonuses because of the tax cut, stocks at an all time high.\n\nINB4 it's all because of Obama!",
"Just wanted to bring to your attention that your post was about as comprehendible as smashing your face against the key board and seeing what letters come out",
"Republicans are mind numbingly dumb. ",
"How can you be friends with someone you’ve never met? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? Though that pales in comparison to claiming Democratic Socialism is in any way, shape or form different from Communism. I guess you’ve never read Marx. Do us all a favor and pick up a book sometime. I’m honestly embarrassed for you.",
"\"I wish political stuff wasn't on this sub but first I'll make this ostentatious statement about my hatred of the mentioned political figure so that my cohorts can upvote me and make me feel good about my own political beliefs.\"\n\nMrSnatch, you are a tool, used to regurgitate the latest opinion from media pundits, CNN, Fox News, whatever it is that you watch.\n\nIf you don't want to see political posts on this sub then you shouldn't have included those first 3 words in your post and don't make political statements on the sub to begin with... ",
"Wow I'm blocking this stupid sub.. Yeah call half the country stupid. ",
"The popular vote would qualify as a large group of people, right?",
"I remember a certain party with a 4.5 million dollar budget to \"correct\" reddit by purchasing upvotes and downvotes....",
"Yup, but enough stupid people, in the right stupid parts of the country (and I'm sadly including my stupid state in this) got the job done. ",
"Why aren't you working the coal mines like the rat you are?",
"liberals make up 63% of the country? gallup says his rating is 37%",
"\"I didn't get mine, so I want yours!\" \n\nGo work for your own. You don't deserve mine. ",
"https://citizenpath.com/paths-to-legal-status-undocumented/",
"Young people *think* they are educated but haven't paid attention to anything political except Obama in pop culture.",
"It’s the only thing they have left.",
"\n\nAre you serious? I think you'd at least agree Breitbart is worse.",
"Lmao that was particularly cringe.",
"I think you’re confused on who needs safe spaces you fuckin mongoloid",
"Yes, despite all the scandal, they went for Hillary. ",
"They only say that when it doesn't favor their political viewpoints, which they usually don't, because their viewpoints are usually the *punchline*. ",
"Because reddit on average is probably smarter than them.\n\n“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”\n\n-- George Carlin",
"Where the data to support that claim?",
"Except one of those sides has some pretty good reasons to believe so. Climate change denial, Trickle down economics, and the type of leaders they elect. I mean you can't objectively look at the Democratic and Republican primaries of last year and compare the people that were running in it and say \"Yea these people are comparably competent and fit for the duties of President.\" ",
"It makes you smile?\n\nWhy?\n\nIs your distain for your fellow humans that great?\n\nAre you one of those who would usher Jews or blacks or Hispanics into the gas chambers and smile?\n\nWtf are you smiling about?\n",
"Well how about that for civil discourse.. :/ \nIf you really want to show me my President, whom I have voted for, is delusional, prove it. You can’t say ‘Yeaa Fuck Trump he sucks’ and not show me anything",
"Look kids, another idiot who doesn't understand how polls work.\n\nPolls predicted a 2 to 3 point margin for Clinton... guess what happened? She had a higher vote total by a 2 to 3 point margin.\n\nWow, math is hard!\n\n> I've never see a president with a bigger fanbase\n\nJudging from his approval rating, literally every other president",
"California provides the most food by value in the US. There's not even a red state in the top 3 lol",
"Thank you for more evidence of your racism and lack of understanding about how our economy and our society differs from Africa. Go spout your absurdity elsewhere.",
"can't argue with that, it's obviously super easy.\n\nnow all I need is a DeLorean. ",
"Good reason as to why trump isn’t the sole reason the economy is doing better. ",
"[Okay.](https://imgur.com/a/ecPV1)\n\nWhat's your point? That Obama is a better president, because that's what the polls show.",
"You really think the left doesn't see themselves as \"all-good\"? That everything they do is right and righteous? And I'm sure I'm generalizing, but I know that we have groups like Antifa who if you're even slightly to the right of them on the scale, you're a Nazi who needs punched in the face. There are people on the left who genuinely believe Stalin and Lenin did nothing wrong.",
"Lol so he got elected and with the flick of a switch all this stuff immediately got better? Are you reading what you're writing? None of his major policies were passed in Congress, and the stuff that did pass will take months to take effect. \n\nLol the economy isn't a canoe that you can just paddle two strokes into another direction. It's an old full cargo ship. What you're seeing is inertia of Obama's work. Look at the history of all your stats and see. \n\nThe problem with you Republican Americanss is that you worship your President. Zero critical thinking.",
"You just quoted a statement that has to do with proving a causal relationship with presidential actions and the economy. If you don't see how this has nothing to do with measuring the current or historic state of the economy, you're beyond reasoning with. This conversation is over. Ignored.",
"You're a ray of sunshine in what sometimes seems like a hopeless world. I'd be interested to hear what you have to say some time.",
"I doubt that they allow breitbart, but even if they do, would you think it matters to sub full of people who are not only convinced that Russians are the cause of all their problems but hope it to be so?",
"Cry about it more you fucking pussy. Get hanged.",
"I don't think you undestand what triggered means. You're the one reacting to a joke image. If anything, it's the /r/the_donald going out on any anti-trump post like clockwork. It's even funnier when they do it on actual jokes.",
"So you actually think there's nothing in the least bit off about someone who supports arguably the worst president in modern history while simultaneously thinking *other* people are stupid? ",
"You'd be surprised. A false story about Trump, written by ABC dropped the DOW 350 points... \n\n>The Dow Jones average on Friday morning indeed plunged by 350 points after Ross incorrectly reported that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn was going to testify that Trump, as a presidential candidate, directed Flynn to contact Russian officials, amid federal investigations into whether Moscow and the Trump campaign colluded in the race.",
"So almost 50% of the country is stupid because they don’t agree with your political opinion. You seem a little out of touch bud.",
"It’s a justification, moreso than anything. Trump delivered on taxes and may get some progress on immigration, and naybe even entitlement reform. He’s doing a great job at signing things, thus staffing the courts with conservative picks and undoing many Obama-era executive orders. We should be criticizing Trump for sure, but Hillary’s incompetence and/or ideology had enough voters turn to Trump as an alternative. You didnt really see many people vote for Obama and then try to turn and say “Yeah, but the alternative was Romney!”",
"The tax breaks hurt the deficit we should be maintaining taxes while cutting spending that's what you do to solve a deficit. And I actually hike in those parks that are being shrunk so yes it directly effects me. And know when I signed up for internet I declined to allow them to do that which is not now an option. And regardless of who is receiving my information or what they are using it for I still don't have to approve of a candidate who sells it. And while this is extreme say they use that information to start discriminating on hiring people from different political parties. He hasn't done a single thing that helps me or improves my life yet. Even the issues I agree with him on his solutions are rarely coherent and he changes view on a whim.",
"I am the left and I don't see myself as \"all-good\", so no I do not think that.",
"You think the GDP has doubled? I guess you’re a member of that large group.",
"> Also stop this ... \"everyone with a child\" general blanket statements.\n\nYou brought up my climate change comment, chief. Try to pay attention.",
"This type of shit is very tame compared to the numb nuts over at TD. ",
"I do not like trump. I 100% believe that he has turned this country into a terrible place and I support his impeachment and conviction.\n\nHowever, unlike what you have just shown nowhere will you see me insulting random people for their personal beliefs. \n\nI criticize trump, I dont insult him (okay maybe I make jokes, but that is different). It is entirely reasonable to criticize the President of the United States. I did so for Obama at his faults, and I do so for Trump just the same.\n\nIf Hillary Clinton did any of these actions that trump has done, I would be appalled and in the same position- calling for her impeachment and conviction.\n\nBut here we are, Trump is in office, and it is his job to not only take the criticism of the American people, no matter how much he disagrees with it, but it is his job to act to benefit as much Americans as possible, not just his base or himself.\n\nIt is also the American people’s responsibility to hold the president accountable for any illegal act, whether one thinks it should be legal or it should not be.\n\nWe also now know that Trump has committed a number of illegal actions such as obstruction of justice. We also know that his campaign manager was charged with conspiracy against the Untied States, also known as treason. His national security adviser has also taken a guilty plea about lying to the FBI. \n\nWe also know that the White House has been spewing false information to the American people since day 1. \n\nDo we have grounds for impeachment right now? I don’t know. Muller hasn’t released enough information for us to know about that. We don’t even know if there was collusion in the 2016 election or not. Russia could have acted on its own. (We do know that Russia influenced with our election as it has been unanimously stated by the entire intelligence community)\n\n No matter where you stand on the political spectrum, we should all agree that it is 100% reasonable to hold the president accountable for his actions. Even if they do not violate law, that doesn’t mean they don’t have an impact on how people view our country, our interactions with foreign governments, and sensitive topics such as North Korea.\n \nAddressing your very valid point on the stock market not crashing, I applaud trump for the stock market improving. That doesn’t mean that Obama didn’t pull us out of an economic recession, as Obama has credit to grab in that too.\n\nThat being said, I’m not going to stop protesting and stating rational arguments, and trying to understand both sides. I am also not going to stop fighting for what I believe, whether my political party lost the election or not.\n\nAnd if expressing rational arguments and not insulting people on personal levels solely because of their political beliefs makes me a liberal snowflake, then so be it.\n\n\n",
"Since people filtered r/politics and the shills started flooding other defaults",
"The people in the fly-over states and the ones who live in rural areas were sick of being ignored and insulted. And it just continues, see the picture everyone is commenting on right now. But it's a huuuuge mystery why Trump won, right? ",
"Just agreeing with you, sounds stupid doesn't it?",
"Get the fuck out you trump sympathsizer",
"I think about 32% of the workforce contribute to a 401(k), so, no, not the average. https://www.fool.com/retirement/2017/06/19/does-the-average-american-have-a-401k.aspx",
"Trump’s fiscal year just started in November, so everything before that is credited to Obama’s admin I’m pretty sure. ",
"> \"But her emails\"\n\nIt's weird to me that this is considered any sort of an argument. You can't just dismiss the e-mails (among other things) as a non-issue. If it were anyone but Hillary Clinton they would have been charged with multiple violations of federal records law, and they certainly would not have been allowed to decide which e-mails they were going to hand over and be allowed to destroy tens of thousands of e-mails subject to subpoena.",
"You do know that California produces more food than almost anywhere in the world right? \n\n>California produces a sizable majority of many American fruits, vegetables, and nuts: 99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots (and the list goes on and on). \n\nWe'll be fine. \n\nAnd before you go talking about illegal immigrants, 50-70 percent of all American crops are harvested by immigrants, that includes red states.\n",
"I thought we were talking about the administration being Fascist or racist.",
"I have a BA and an MBA. My first big boy job paid $42K a year. Now in hire new grads like her, people from UCSD or UCLA. They generally start in the mid-60k range. It will take her 3 years to recover that investment. Not wise. ",
"Incase you guys didn't know, the sticker is talking about liberals...",
"It's a big, scary topic that 99% of humans will die having no understanding of.",
"LOL",
"Point is he could be curing cancer and solving world hunger and half of the country would disapprove by default. So approval rating really doesn't mean shit when half the country is throwing a tantrum and will disapprove of you no matter what.",
"This quote, coming from a Trump supporter. You guys make me smile.",
">That implies that only polls which didn't account for the electoral college predicted her win. Which is obviously not the case.\n\nExcept there's no such thing as a poll which accounts for the electoral college. The closest thing we have are state polls, which actual pollsters were quick to point out even before the election were significantly less reliable than the national poll.\n\nThe problem was that pundits ignored their warnings, and reported on Clinton's narrow lead in the national polls as meaning she was guaranteed to win the electoral college. The polls were right; the pundits were wrong.",
"And the reports said Trump included Haiti explicitly in his list as well.\n\nIt's only random because we can't physically allow everyone at once. I believe that we should always be accepting some amount of people from troubled countries as long as they don't have anything bad in their past.\n\nI'de be interested to here what you believe these merits should be, because I'm pretty sure we already have some migration programs that include many of them, like people opening businesses and doctors.\n\nEdit: to be fair, I find it un-patriotic to limit immigration from countries that are just troubled, but have no history of significant terrorist groups targeting us. We have always been a beacon for good people coming from shitty situations\n\n",
">half the country\n\nNo 30%.\n\n>without hearing my opinions\n\nNo I've heard your opinions constantly. You support Trump. There's nothing more to discuss.\n\n>economic boom \n\nYeah that Obama caused lmao you people are so desperate for any type of win that you'll literally just make shit up to feel better about yourself.\n\nI hope someone kneels during the game so you get your man titties in a twist over free speech.\n\n",
"Save this comment. If Trump not only finishes this term, but is re elected(without instating marshal law or something equivalent to do so) I will eat a pile of dog shit. ",
"“That guy agrees with me so he obviously can’t be triggered!!!11!”",
"Call people shills but defend the FCC nice lmao",
"Not quite right. Young people are more idealistic and less likely to compromise on their ideal views. As people age they warm up to compromise and lose their idealism. \n\nAlso young people pay better attention to online resources, example is examples proven trickle down economics don't work, also that the four largest economic collapses in the past 100 years have happened after 8 years of republican rule.\n\nWhat's your take on why college educated people skew liberal?",
"Did that bring us together and make us a better place? No, none of it does.\n\nWe all have similar goals for life and humanity. Letting politicians in DC tear us apart and split us into a handful of groups is what's destroying this country. ",
"It's all worth it for all the wins we get. Literally millions have died because of tax cuts and net neutrality",
"Note that I said some. And even at that, from your very own source: “According to Reuters, Carrier said 1,100 workers will remain at the Indianapolis factory, upholding its deal with Trump.“\n\nOops.",
"[so civil] (https://m.imgur.com/J1hSHPi)",
"It's obviously a threat",
"I'm sorry I know the majority of Americans didn't vote for that clown.",
"Intelligent people can be idiots.\n\nThere is a Nobel laureate in physics who doesn't believe in the mechanisms and reality of climate change. Highly intelligent, but still a fucking idiot.",
"The same one's saying \"not my....\" \n \nIf you choose not to choose, you still have made a choice. ",
"Weird. I formed my world view by studying history in my spare time, not bullshit partisan media. What a strange strawman you’ve erected.",
"Obviously. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fucking imbecile. Neither Obama nor Trump deserve credit for the recovery.",
"I do work for my own. I just also care about other people, that’s all.",
"Why in the world would I respect someone who openly brags about sexually assaulting women? Presidents can be shitty people ",
"Ironic that the Republicans only major piece of legislation adds 1.5 Trillion to the deficit by 2027. That's if the individual tax breaks are allowed to expire. \n\nSo much for fiscal conservatism.",
"Until that pic, always felt the top saying was a snooty and not necessarily true\n\nNow, it is clear ",
"Username checks out. ",
"It's irritating as shit. I get it, drumpf bad. I GET IT. \n\n\nI'm alright with Reddit talking about a new controversy of his, cause that's interesting, but I'm sick of seeing 'political humor' that is literally \"Trump supporters r dumb\"",
"\"None of that is remotely true except in the fevered minds of the right wing media circus\"\n\nBill Clinton was impeached. That is a fact.",
"I’m some where in the middle.\n\nI’m not a trump fan boy, but he’s done some shit right. I wasn’t an Obama fan boy, but he done some shit right. They both are doing shit wrong also. \n\nOff the cap...\n\nObama should have federally legalized weed and trump shouldn’t let sessions make those statements.\n\nFuck them all. They will never know us or what we want and need. Sure we can vote but we are voting for people that don’t know people. They are already disconnected multi millionaires before they even run. There is nothing wrong with having mass amounts of money. It’s hard to be a people of the people person when your not and have not been down there with the people, now or ever.\n\n\nFuck them all. They ain’t me or mine, I’d bet you feel the same. We are so disconnected from the Washington elites. We need a change. \n\nRon paul was the dude but we fucked that up. He’s the most personable candidate that’s ever ran since I’ve been alive. He delivered my aunt.\n\nAnd I’m no different on the internet than real life....that I see any ways. I might talk more hear but if you asked I’d tell you the same IRL. I’ve been called an asshole and a whole ass, plus more....just what I do I guess.",
"You look at any trump post outside of that subreddit and the donald will have leaked into it. Really funny too when they get triggered on neutral posts or even positive posts like we just insulted their God king or something.",
"I would have voted for trump if I was old enough, does that make me stupid?",
"Yeah all that legislation he got passed has really been ripping shit up! I mean there's been the tax bill, and the... um... the tax b- oh wait I already said that. Um... shit. ",
"You don't have to know every single thing about someone to make that decision. ",
"Half of the comments in this thread are people commenting on the type of comments on this thread.",
"People can believe in whatever they want, and their peers have the right to decide they're a dumbass for whatever they believe in",
"They’re also closing a bunch of Sam’s club stores and laying people off to compensate. That’s far more impactful than an extra $4. But you win, right?",
">trump kids \n\nunderage detected ",
"> Nice try, but calling someone obese is a diagnosis.\n\nlol.",
"Delusional, I think, is a better word than retarded. Look at all the people crying when she lost. They thought they had it in the bag, that it's a liberal's world and we are just living in it. Nope, the other fucking half of the country spoke with their votes and decided enough was enough. We don't have to play by the rules that three or four cities set in place for us. We as a country may be having some growing pains with Trump but all the secondary and tertiary side effects of his presidency are amazing and I'm glad they're happening. ",
"In what way was it too dumb to address? Because I can assume you don't know what you're talking about. If you had something real to say then you would have said it, instead of insulting the words he used like an idiot. You're not fooling anyone. ",
"You or I would not be here if American immigration was a merit-based system, ie, you had to have an advanced degree. The parents of several notable individuals who have changed the world would not have been here either.\n\nThat being said, there needs to be some sort of standards - what those are is a bigger discussion than I'd like to get into at midnight.\n\nAlso, poaching, unless we're talking about truly notable people like your Oppenheimers and Einsteins shouldn't happen - people who want to be in America are drawn to America.",
"Russia? Wait a minute now. I thought Trump was a Russian sleeper agent? Now you're saying they don't want anything to do with us after using all that propaganda to get Trump elected? ",
"Tax breaks and pro business strategies help everyone. Compare America to Canada, there's far more job opportunities throughout the country (not just Vancouver or Toronto), housing near work centers doesn't cost millions, the cost of living is generally lower, and nearly everyone makes more money - especially in STEM. There's a reason the posterchild for the Canadian hightech industry is a fucking dating app.\n\nIt's better to actually have rich people to tax in your country than not have them and have zero tax income. They use their money to invest in the economy and create jobs - creating competitive bidding for labour which will raise real wages\n\nI'm in favour of nation-first thinking. Big cuts on foreign aid and strong border protections.",
"Yeah you’re clearly very not upset\n\nLMAO",
"And anytime anyone brings up that point, it becomes whataboutism and you eat massive downvotes.\n\nUnless of course you are supporting the lefter side of things, then it is all fine.",
"Yea it's like all the people who were sick of being called racist so they voted for the most openly racist candidate in decades. They sure showed us. I certainly don't think they're racist anymore!",
">infinite gender spectrum Bill Nye\n\nHahaha I love it",
"\"It's a libertarian-socialist system. You see the free people decide if your comment is voteworthy.\"",
"Sure it will. It will provide the funding/incentives for innovation and pharmaceutical development (unlike socialist healthcare...which doesnt).",
"....so I can show the police when it happens? Haha\n\nWhy would Trump repeal same sex marriage? He’s a Democrat at heart. Also I don’t think he can. ",
"So are your comments \n\nEdit: I misunderstood something so downvotes were deserved",
"\"shithole,\" huh?\n\nSo this sub is a third world country to you?",
"Yeah, not really. ",
"CANT STUMP THE DRUMPF!!!!",
"Trillions",
"Probably did it on different days. Some Good Samaritan should draw and arrow from one to the other for him. ",
"The world’s a shitty place. Being informed is hard, and something that Trump supporters can’t do with their subhuman brains.",
"We're gonna be going at Muellers rate pretty soon if Feinsteins document is any indication.",
"I see Bernie Sanders and Hillary Supporters as having fucking dumbass ignorant views too. So they deserve all the ridicule as well.\n\n",
"He's claiming that Trump is a horrible man without personally knowing him or every interacting with him? That's an absurd claim to make without barely knowing anything about the man. ",
"I didn't say that. I'm just saying that you can't attribute the success of the economy under Trump solely to Trump, as he is still operating under the framework left to him by the Obama administration. ",
"You're saying Trump hasn't met Putin? Here's a picture of the two of them: https://imgur.com/a/PMc1F\n\nDemocratic Socialism: \"Seeks the democratic control of sectors of society and economy in order to avoid the pitfalls of an unregulated market and — this is most important — the kind of terrible authoritarian government that emerged in the Soviet Union.\"\n\nThe last part there? That's Communism. You should read Marx again, you clearly didn't get it the first time.",
"Thats objectively not true though. Prove me wrong. Please.\n\nBecause you just said they do...but it costs \"trillions\" of dollars",
"The guy was literally saying that half of the U.S. are sociopaths, and it's complete bull shit. Fuck you if believe it. ",
"Settled what, that non-progressive taxation increases wealth inequity? Yes, that's fairly well accepted. Even progressive taxation can increase wealth inequality. Wealthy people tend to be very good at increasing their wealth, regardless of tax policy, but certainly non-progressive taxation exacerbates the problem. ",
"I love it when snowflakes call others snowflakes. Your both fucking snowflakes.",
"Well the millions of you can get together and throw a party when climate change destroys humans then.... Maybe hang a big banner that says \"Coal Power: A major achievement\"\n\nAnd if you want to refute Climate change try linking actual scientific evidence rather than Washington Examiner garbage.",
"Well man, if you are buying bananas, fresh produce, a car or clothes then you're also taking advantage of cheap labor. \n\nWalk through your house and see if you can spot something made in China... probably the phone you're on, built by someone for $12 a day. I bet your shirt says made in Vietnam. ",
"I have no idea how the other guy is getting upvotes. Correct The Record is still going strong I see...",
"If people downvote me they're violating my free speech",
"Are you Muslim?",
"u need to go to /r/gonewild and comment on how pretty her smile is as she is spreading her buttcheeks as wide as the grand canyon",
"For anyone else that's reading: take a look at the thread. I said it takes less than 3 years for a president's actions to affect the economy, this fella then said \"wildly false and based on nothing but conjecture.\" When asked to provide a source for his claim, he couldn't, got mad, then took his ball and went home like I care that he doesn't want to play anymore. \n\nMoral of the story: if you're going to dispute something as \"wildly false and based on nothing but conjecture,\" be able to support your argument with evidence. \n\nAnd if you're wondering about mine - here is a source to read on the topic: \n\nhttp://fortune.com/2017/07/20/donald-trump-economy-stock-market-jobs-reports-credit/\n\n>Presidents can affect the economy through the decisions they make, but it often takes years to gauge the impact. For instance, most economists now say President Obama’s stimulus package helped pull the U.S. out of the recession, even though a majority of Americans at the time believed it didn’t work. Likewise, President George W. Bush’s decision to launch the Iraq War could have contributed to the Great Recession, economists note. But, even so, the president, Bruner says, is just one of the “many cooks in the kitchen” that influence the economy.",
"Only 55% of the country even voted, so less than half of that is stupid or *ill-informed*. Why is that so hard to believe? 4 in 10 Americans believe in creationism. ",
"There’s roughly 5 million Conservatives in California. It’s only gone so blue because they’ve allowed unfettered illegal immigration to run rampant. Also Reagan foolishly granted amnesty to some 3 million illegals. What are you going to tell me next, the truckers who deliver the goods are Democrats too? ",
"> He is a cult leader.\n\nFTFY.",
"Dude. Stop ruining the circle jerk :(",
"I'm asking you for your sources. You're the one that's making positive claims\n\nInteresting how it's all feels and no reals with your crowd\n\nEDIT: lmao you edited all your posts retroactively. Pathetic",
"I guess in Trump's world \"saving jobs\" means giving companies tax payer money to out sources them at a slower rate. I guess that's Trump's big accomplishment? lol what a failure. ",
"According to Rasmussen, they had the same approval at the end of their first year. What does that tell you? Now imagine if Trump had the benefit of 90%+ positive stories about him from an adoring media machine. Echo....echooo....echooooooooo\n",
"Til both sides think the other is the dumb side.",
"Your taxes might be reduced. Lots of people will lose deductions they previously had.\n\nAdd to that the fact that the middle class cuts are only temporary because they weren't deemed as important as tax cuts for the rich and corporations.",
"Convictions are dangerous",
"Who knew? /S",
"I’m starting to think you have no idea what the word racism means but just accuse everyone with a different opinion of it. \n\nIf you can’t understand that controlled immigration has been proven to work while uncontrolled immigration has proven not to I don’t know what to do with you lol. \n\nYou also think lack of immigration caused the Great Depression and accuse me of a lack of understanding on economics lol",
"It's not a joke. Every time you dumb fucks are threatened by an idea you disagree with, you all run off to rehearse your talking points like in your echo chambers - your safe spaces where nothing can upset you.",
"What do they help with? They increase crime, protest that they’re oppressed by the education system when they test lower and get suspended more often, demand that we lower standards in public jobs, consume thousands per person in welfare- what benefit do they bring that offsets this?",
">\tso I can show the police when it happens? Haha\n\nYes, absolutely.\n\n>\tWhy would Trump repeal same sex marriage?\n\nBecause he’s a rampant homophobe actively planning a genocide of gay Americans through inaction.\n\n>\tHe’s a Democrat at heart.\n\nHe’s a republican through and through, right down to the disdain for democracy and human rights.\n\n>\tAlso I don’t think he can.\n\nHe hasn’t been held accountable for breaking all the other laws he has, so what’s stopping him exactly?",
"I don’t see anyone wanting to impeach him for cursing. This is just further evidence of his deteriorating mental faculties. He seems to be going senile like his father did at the end of his life. With Trumps poor diet/lifestyle and family history he is at a higher risk, so it shouldn’t be that surprising that he most likely is in the early stages of dementia. You can see him speak in the 90s and he wasn’t Lincoln or Churchill, but he wasn’t on an elementary school level like he is now. He was always an elitist bigot, but now he is incapable of hiding it even when it hurts his cause. In this case they were trying to ensure the immigration reform didn’t have any racial overtones, so they could get it passed on a bipartisan agreement. Trump is hurting his party and our country’s perception around the world which can impact our economy if it continues to erode our reputation. The reason to impeach him is because he’s mentally incapable of doing the job. He should t need a 30 minute talk to know the difference between domestic and foreign surveillance, but that’s what Paul Ryan needed to do. He needed to be told several times he couldn’t negotiate with Germany directly he had to negotiate with the EU. ",
"That was obviously a joke. Like cmon \"If I claim to be a wise man, surely that means I don't know?\"",
"ShariaBlue?",
"The last quarter of 2017 was estimated to be 4%. We were sub 2% under Barry. The growth was before tax cuts, so yes the GDP (growth) has just about doubled.",
"No shit.\n\n> Anyone with children and grandchildren, who are going to live on a shittier planet due to climate change effects\n\nThat was my blanket statement. And it is absolutely true.",
"False. Good try tho. You're referring to budget.",
"It is arbitrary in the bigger scope of things, but the reality is that they're not. I see the point you're trying to make, but if the entire country was decided by just California, it would no longer be a democracy. The decision should spread across all states, not just a select few. Our democracy is broken, but not in the way you're imagining. Fact is that we're too large a country* to be controlled by one major government. ",
"You are cancer",
"Yeah, it's damn depressing. Seriously, *four* members of his campaign are indicted.. and a week later, his poll numbers go back up. He refuses to condemn a neo-Nazi who murdered an innocent woman... and a week later, his poll numbers go back up. Are these people not watching the news? Or do they just not care?",
"Isn’t that what r/aww is for?",
"I didn't say we take everyone in Haiti. Stop swinging your torch at strawmen.",
"Stupider",
"Lol nah.\n\nBernie and Hillary weren't out there calling non white countries \"shitholes\".\n\nYou don't get to whataboutism your way out of this.",
"So if Im following you correctly...CNN completely unbiased, no outside agendas. Fox news most biased news network, only spewing their agendas. Correct?",
"Ah, that ol' chestnut. Morals and ethics are beating a dead horse. Telling me I'm afraid of the truth, while you blatantly disregard it. You clearly don't want to have a discussion, you just want to win an argument. You support a horrible person, and you think the people who don't are horrible people. That's how ya know he's got ya by the balls, kid. Hope you grow out of that soon.",
">How does data of a large white vote translate to white supremacism? \n\nI'm referring to the fact that Trump overwhelmingly won voters who listed their primary concern in the election as \"changing society\", while Clinton won voters primarily concerned with things like the economy, the environment, and so on. It's pretty clear from the polls that were conducted around the time of the election that Trump's supporters were hugely motivated by racial animus.\n\n>Are you inferring that every white voter who voted for Trump is a supremacists? Because that is, as you know already, stupid\n\nGood thing I didn't say it then.\n\n\n",
"Wow what a gentleman and scholar you are.",
"I see what you did there 😂",
"Why is being old a trait worthy of respect? Wow congrats on not dying I guess. I'll respect someone based on their actions. Not because they happen to have been ok this earth longer. ",
"> What if I didn't support trump at first, but I do now? \n\nThen I'd wonder what brain injury you suffered.",
"Hello, future dwellers!",
"I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm looking for things that will influence noticable gdp differences, either up or down. Forgetting that the markets are not in any way a measure of wages, employment or wealth (outside of corrections), none of the items on that list will have made any noticable impact to an average persons life, which is why the discussion of how recently the tax bill was passed is even relevant. The tax bill, regardless of political views, is the only legislation large enough to influence gdp, and potentially the life of everyday people since taking office. ",
"This way of thinking is dangerous. ",
"> But what point is there when people, on both sides of the coin, refuse to listen to reason. I say this as a trump supporter,\n\nI find it funny how it is always the exact same group of supporters who say that 'both sides' whataboutism garbage. I wouldn't otherwise care that you are a trump supporter, but to say 'both sides...' and then say you support Trump is just funny because it cements my belief that only right wing people resort to whataboutism.\n\n> but the man has a serious case of foot in mouth syndrome, that he needs to clean up big time. The flip side is the blatant corruption and lies coming from the anti-trump.\n\nIs this that \"The media is so bias! Hillary killed all these people, but the worst thing Trump has done was say mean things, yet they still go after him\" thing where people ignore how terrible republican policies are, and his other dodgy dealings, and pretend people *only* dislike him for 'saying mean things' or dismiss any criticism whatsoever and pretend said criticism was calling people racist or neo-nazi?\n\n> It was confirmed earlier by not one but two people that were actually at the meeting yesterday, that he didn't actually say the word shithole, and from what I'm gathering he didn't say anything even close to it. It seems to me like the left knows they can say what they want, and let the population run with it as far as they want, while they quietly change their tune.\n\nI don't care at all about his 'shithole' comment, and I don't care either that people lied about it simply because it doesn't change anything. The only people who do are the ones that either dislike already, or the ones capitalising off the hate and pretending it's their 'tipping point' in their opinion of him to push their own agenda. It's just a long list of sensational garbage about things that do not matter. No one is losing their job over this shit, and if they do they just get replaced with the same. Anyone believes it, or thinks it matters, is an idiot, just like in the context of any other sensationalised garbage. Those people are the problem, not the media, just like the people who say 'both sides ~~must be~~ are the same' are the problem with politics in general.",
"Thank you for being objective and reasonable. Too few nowadays. Either Trump is Hitler or Churchill or Obama was the Anti Christ or the Messiah. Too few in between. \n\nBut no I don’t credit the recession to Obama, just like I don’t blame it on Bush. I blame it on policies both democrats and republicans were pushing through in the 90s that led to a huge bubble which eventually popped under Bush. I don’t necessarily think Obama implemented the best policies, during a recession, I think he pushed too many regulations for example, but I don’t think he hurt the economy either.\n\nAnd for businesses it doesn’t quite matter if the policies had been quite put into effect yet. They already knew pretty much what to expect and had started making moves to be in optimal position to take advantage when the policies had been implemented. I think the true test comes now for Trump though to see if he can continue hitting ~3%+ growth per year after the initial surge, which Democrats including Obama kind of laughed at him for thinking he could do and said “this is the new normal for America”. Trump just got his/the republican tax plan through, but not to mention as well under Trump a good amount of regulations have been done away with. I’m not necessarily anti regulation, I think regulation is necessary, but too much regulation and in some cases unreasonable regulations are a hinderance more than a good thing. ",
"People who voted for Clinton LOL",
"Can you name one Obama economic policy that Trump has reversed?",
"Yeah, I imagine the eastern seaboard of North America was hoping it wasn’t. ",
"I don’t know what you’re talking about anymore, but I cbf with you from here on considering you’ve already called me a racist in another comment chain. ",
"But how?",
"He insulted your grammar because he didn’t agree with what you said but didn’t have the mental capacity to come up with a counter for the content, so he ridiculed your presentation. ",
"Only for the extremely wealthy, and I'd have to question their intelligence, since it looks more like short term gains with a fair chance of a bust coming soon. We're still flailing around about the existence of global warming, and developing almost no plans or projects to adapt, mitigate, slow and/or reverse the consequences of it, but meanwhile red flags are starting to go up regarding the availability of water. Assuming the intention is growth and development rather than ... the opposite of that, that's pretty stupid. That said, I am entirely confident that if Hillary had won, my job would be outsourced and I'd be unemployed, so I do see where you are coming from.",
"Sure, then put her through due process of law.\n\nUnless you're some slack-jawed idiot, you know that Trump is your president, you have full power in the house and senate, and they would happily have done so immediately, just like they promised.\n\nSo where is she now?",
"For the record, I am loving Trump. And I voted for Obama twice, and Jill Stein last election.",
"Said the Nazis in 1938.",
"I voted or Bernie and Clinton. You are pretending to not understand. Beats accepting responsibility.",
"Obama caused? God damn you're dense. Seriously, if you really believe that, you're a fucking idiot. Judging by your 30% comment, you may have some sort of learning disability. Please don't have children. Also, \"we people\" won and keep winning, and there's nothing your whiny little ass can do about it. Have a wonderful weekend.",
"How to get karma:\n\n-Open /r/pics\n\n-Upload image with anything to do with trump\n\n-Get Front Page",
"Thanks.\n\nThe more moderate, common sense Americans speak out - we've been quiet for decades - the sooner we can get things back on track before they go off the rails.",
"Yeah, thank god we have an incompetent buffoon instead of a highly-qualified policy nerd who used the wrong email server. We really dodged s bullet there!",
"What’s the irony? Didn’t more people vote for Hillary?",
"I guess you’re content with living off of kale and walnuts picked by unvaccinated, undocumented immigrants. The rest of us would be dining on filets. ",
"He was always a democrat, he just ran as a Republican because the Democratic Party wouldn’t have support both he and Clinton. \n\nHe hung around the fashion world and was a big proponent for gay marriage. If anything he’s not a homophobe. \n\nPlus- kudos on your username- nothing like using “tard” in there to make fun of people with Downs. ",
"Funny, we say the same about you all.",
"Haha you’re probably right\n\nedit: Liberals downvote you when trying to be lighthearted, lol snowflakes.",
"There’s the name-calling I’ve come to expect from subhuman fascoids.",
"Yes, but can you speak for others, or only yourself? If you speak only for yourself, you should know others may try to put you through a test of ideological purity, to see if you are truly on their side. ",
"i mean, there was blame on both sides tho. im not siding with or defending the neo's but they had a permit to be there. ",
"It could. And/or it could mean you're ignorant.\n\nIf you were in diapers or a ballsack around 9/11 and the aftermath, you don't really have much firsthand context to go off of. It would require an extraordinarily gifted and inquisitive mind (and a lot of history reading) to be able to form a coherent worldview. I don't think you have those.",
"> - most of America. \n\nFTFY",
"Your account is only 3 years old.",
"Unfortunately, the horse still has complete control of the executive branch of the United States and command of the world's largest armed forces and second-largest nuclear arsenal. So please forgive me if I keep whacking away at its dusty bones until there's no chance left that they could kill me (or at least severely damage my quality of life).",
"Double down. It's amazing to me. As bad as Trump Is, your ego is not something you would sacrifice to get rid of him. You are empty handed. ",
"I really hope you’re just joking",
"Because your entire argument is based off of the fact that if people don’t agree with you they are stupid. Having different opinions has been a fundamental aspect of American politics since our nation was founded. This is the problem with the left rn, you keep on labeling the other side.",
"Substance",
"If you choose to ignore everything that is reported, all the things he has said on record, all the changes to government agencies he has made, the stain he has put on our country's reputation, etc., what the fuck could I say to enlighten you? And I didn't call Trump dilusional.\n\nAs far as civil discourse I concerned, I reserve that for civil people. I thought Trump supporters like \"telling it as it is\" and is anti-pc? Well here is telling it as it is, fuck Trump and all his asshole supporters. That's my last response to your thread.",
"RACISTSEXISTKKKHATEANDSTUFFSOMETHINGORIGINAL",
"Russia hasn’t been a communist country since the 1990’s, if I remember correctly",
"You seem to know all those anonymous users really well",
"Didn't learn a thing last year, did you?",
":D",
"People who watch Ice Poseidon LOL",
"Highly qualified lol.. Ok..",
"“Anything bad in their past.” Yeah who doesn’t agree? You realize the whole problem with letting people from shithole countries in is that it’s extremely difficult to vet them due to poor documentation from their corrupt, bankrupt governments? Jake Tapper conveniently, “clarified,” his report today to exclude Haiti and add the context that Trump was talking in favor of merit based versus the visa lottery program.",
">Yes, but can you speak for others, or only yourself?\n\nI can speak for others. My close circle of high school friends are very liberal. A frequent topic of discussion is the shortcomings in our own beliefs. Undermining ourselves is our way of clearing away the dirt and sand to see where the foundations actually rest.",
"Why would I refute climate change.. you need to open your mind and realise were not some anti science redneck group. Were pro-fiscal responsibility/America first. I'm a Software engineer lol. My best friends who are Trump supporters have masters in business. Gotta get out of that mind set man, it literally doesn't help anyone on either side.",
"Ignored everything you said after the retarded claim that the economy would be doing this well under Clinton",
"I don’t consider them news either. I try to keep it to traditional outlets that have some sort of standards. Even fox’s pure news anchors are pretty down the center, only slightly right. My issue with them is the editorial segments and production priority choices. \n\nBreitbart doesn’t even spin things. They print literal falsehoods deliberately. ",
"Reality has a well known liberal bias",
"Uh, no. There are things you can know about a person that objectively make them bad. Bragging about sexual assault, mocking disabled people, constantly insulting people, the list goes on. I've never met Charles Manson, but I'm comfortable making an assessment of his character. ",
"The fuck are you trying to say? How is a reddit post's upvote/downvote scale relevant to the size of Trump's supporters? ",
"Yeah, but nobody will be able to afford those advances, so what's the point?",
"I mean you can hope it will happen. It won't, but you can keep dreaming. ",
"You don't think it's racist when he said he prefers people from a majority white country immigrating to the US, over countries with majority brown people? What if Obama had said \"Ya know, I think we need more people from Africa coming here. We got too many Caucasians coming in.\"?\n\nThis incident just compounds what we know about him already: that he's a bigot, on top of all this other deplorable traits. ",
"Amen brother ",
"These damn years where I engage my frontal lobe and use critical thinking skills. Good times, hope it never goes away. ",
"Bad imagenes",
"Obesity is a physical condition that requires a doctor to determine. I’ll wait to hear from one and not some anon on Reddit. Thanks for the insight though.",
"What? I’m a New Yorker live and work in the city. You have no clue! Get everyone off of welfare! Jobs for every US citizen! If you don’t want one move to a shithole. This Nation is done with takers!",
"Jeeze, dude. Calm down, no need to resort to name calling like you got mad or something.\n\nAlso, I don’t think you understand what having a million fucking dollars in an inheritance does for you. A person on a 50k salary will work their whole life and if they save half of every paycheck they make they will have 1 million dollars. It’s a bit of a head start. Your original claim was that a majority were self made, yet this article claims only 35% came from the lower 95% economic bracket.\n\nOh, and I appreciate your concern about me economic well being, but I’m doing okay. Money is tight, but I’ve got a full time job and a roof over my head and enough to eat. I hope you and yours have the same.\n\n",
"Well I disagree with your assessment of tax breaks helping everyone since tax is ultimately a mechanism which is used to offset wealth trickling upwards and being accumulated and controlled by a small minority of the population. For example, attempting to scrap the Obama era healthcare policies doesn't benefit anyone except business owners who were expected to help subsidise health access for all Americans in the face of your country's insane health insurance costs. As a result of the tax breaks over the previous year, these people will ultimately get richer at the expense of the lower classes.\n\nAs for 'nation-first' thinking, I dunno if that's really a debate worth having here, but I think that it is important to point out that America was essentially founded and sustained throughout much of its history through immigration so it does seem rather contradictory to support heavy immigration restrictions, particularly in the modern era where globalisation has reached the level that it has.\n\nThank you for your answers though, I appreciate you taking the time to share your point of view with me. ",
"It's called an analogy. I'm sure your english teacher will tell you all about them when you finally get to the seventh grade.",
"I mean, yours probably does",
"That last statement is the only reason trump is president. Russia had really good social media propaganda campaigns. ",
"Mmkay.",
"No, of course all of climate change is not Trump's fault, stop being a stupid fucking idiot.\n\nIt will be *worse* because of the Trump admin's policies. ",
"Just knowing that your type wakes up angry because things aren't going your way and then goes to sleep in the same miserable, cynical way at night gives me fucking goosebumps. Night night sweetheart. ",
"Your reply will hopefully be seen by a lot of people so they can understand how to be objective and polite. It was well formed and unbiased. I'm personally in the middle of the road on politics in general (right/left) and think all this petty insulting/blanket statement using is immature, as well as the uninformed, opinion influenced arguing that goes on (on BOTH sides) being terrible for everyone. Disagreement is natural, just like civillized debating should be. ",
"You think the folks carrying swastikas in Charlottesville voted Hillary?",
"You didn’t get the LWDS part? Left wing death squads? Knew I should’ve been more transparent with that.",
"At my age, I’m perfectly capable of forming my own world view, and in that view I would rather have Trump as president rather than Hillary. ",
"Conservatives: \"We hate safe spaces and P.C. snowflakes\"\n\nAlso conservatives: \"please stop posting anti-Trump stuff on here\"",
"Yes, **highly** qualified. She was Secretary of State and a US senator. Trump was a reality tv star. ",
"Let me grab my popcorn and start reading these comments ",
"I honestly don't care man. I'm saying that my support of Trump stems from his policies.. Not his personal life.. and even if Trump left I would support the next guy with the same policies. So all this moral grand standing doesn't make the case to not support him. ",
"*looks back at OP's pic* mhmm",
"I'm not dismissing those comments as a non-issue. Flaws are inherent in everyone, skewed with personal opinion.\n",
"*I* will be fine. You will get fucked though lmao.",
"> I read what he actually said/did...etc.\n\nSerious question: if you've read a transcript of a Trump speech, or seen an extended interview with him, how do you still think he's an intelligent person? Even if you agree with his ideas, you have to admit he has extreme difficulty stringing a coherent sentence together.",
"Superhuman.",
"> Judging by your 30% comment, you may have some sort of learning disability. Please don't have children. Also, \"we people\" won and keep winning, and there's nothing your whiny little ass can do about it. Have a wonderful weekend. \n\nHahah holy fuck your3 so fucking mad it's hilarious. \n\nAre you really that much of a little fucking crybaby that you can't accept Trump has a measly 37% approval rating or did they just not teach you basic math when they taught you to suck GOP Fuck? \n\nBecause economic recovery happens over night when Trump got into office right?\n\nHoly fuck. You are actually the stupidest person I know. Congrats. \n\nPlease respond I want to see you throw a tantrum some more.",
"Dude, as a fellow liberal, you are absolutely not helping by getting that condescending.",
"I can't help but notice that's not a denial of being in high school. I know that I was still in high school when I turned 18.",
"How is anyone this stupid it doesn't make sense. The irony in your comment is astounding. \n\n>acting civil like republicans do. \n\nYou've got to be kidding me lol.",
"Nobody brought up “Hittlary” and it’s reductive to say that the electoral college was created to keep dumb people in check. Too dumb to address.",
"I know this past year has been rough for you people, who wake up every day insulting our president and his supporters as if it will do anything. We call that 'spreading hate'. ",
"I'd rather have almost anyone else in the oval office, but social media memes are not going to bring about Trump's removal from office. And even if they could, they will not undo the underlying cultural malaise that caused him to be elected in the first place. ",
"You and the others should go back to t_d and discuss what your next insult should be instead of acting like you're Marco Rubio in a presidential debate.\n\nAs for the \"you all\" you lumped me into, Hillary Clinton is the first democrat I've ever voted for in a presidential election and I only did it because it was the smartest out of two bad options.\n\nJust because you've dedicated yourself to being a stereotype to support your little cult doesn't mean real Americans are also stereotypes.",
"Well, have fun with that, lol.",
"Pro economic policies increase GDP. Companies see this in Trump, that's why the DOW reacts so much with news involving him. That's the difference. Confidence, deregulation, proamerican policies.",
"When you say two disagreeing parties, are you insinuating it’s always Republican vs. Democrat? Can there just be third party/no affiliation with any party people who just disagree with Trump (i.e Trump supporters vs. Non Trump supporters)?\n\nI personally don’t like this bystander/outsider attitude. There’s people who support him, people who don’t, and then people who don’t care/mock people who go either way. It’s that attitude that helps Trump get away with being racist, sexist, anti-intellectual, and etc.\n\nYou imply you don’t support him but trying to stay out of it, while doesn’t necessary directly promote his agenda, just simply allows him to carry on with his business.\n\nBut that’s just my opinion. I just don’t understand the ulterior motive of people who want to stay out of it.",
"That’s literally from this year after Trump became President. I guess they became friends in that photo op? Lastly, just quit while you’re way behind on socialism v communism. Marxism is very clear that socialism is the necessary precursor to communism. He couldn’t have been more clear.",
"It has been political for awhile, but the overwhelming circle jerk didn't start till the primaries ",
"There's been at least two presidential campaigns that only came from thier front porch, no visits to literally any other state. One of them even one the election. Read up on some history before you become a fool.",
"Well sure, I’m not saying nobody can be truly right, or that everything is up for interpretation. Some things are cut and dry. But many issues are complex and there can be more to learn. Nobody is entirely correct about everything, although some people sure act like they are. ",
"That was an anti-trump tone?\n\nK",
"Well now that Juanita Broaddrick has published a book stating that Bill Clinton is a rapist he has plenty of opportunity to sue her for libel and slander. I'm guessing he really doesn't want that case to ever see a courtroom. Lets see how that plays out.",
">At my age, I’m perfectly capable of forming my own world view\n\nIs it coherent, though?\n\n>in that view I would rather have Trump as president rather than Hillary.\n\nWhy?",
"You we screwed either way: slow degeneration through status quo and corruption behind closed doors, or collapse at any time due to transparent idiocy and corruption. I think Trump is the worst possible choice, but he's the choice the American people need and deserve. Every civilisation needs a good collapse after capitalism turns into crony capitalism.",
"so you're surprised that a politician inst fulfilling on one of his promises?\n\nDo you actually think he became presidents to gain more money? You think he spent tens of millions on a campaign and won just to make himself more rich? come on even the most extreme leftist knows thats bs. plus if the plan was going to hurt *that* many people it wouldnt pass.",
"I can link you where I found this stuff but do you have any preferred sources? They probably had someone write about it",
"Is that your whole arguement?",
"It's overtly stupid comments like this that make me suspicious that you are a leftist who was pretending to be a right wing nut *pretending to be a leftist*. ",
"> If the deep red states were to secede, literally every blue state would ~~starve to death~~ have to hire new truckers. Just know that.\n\n",
"Go watch your normie shit cuck ",
"Sub. Subhuman. It’s easy for your kind to make that mistake though, sweetie. You’re welcome for my tax dollars by the way.",
"You're stupid and wrong if you don't think the way I do.",
"He's still not wrong",
"What good is a $10 billion a year bureaucracy if they not only couldn’t prevent the disaster in Flint but AIDED in the cover up? The EPA is useless. ",
"\"He's your president whether you like it or not! Deal with it you triggered snowflakes!\" \n\nAs if he's devoid of criticism, just because he won the election and that's that. ",
"> We're still on Obama's budget.\n\nBecause businesses wouldn't dream of using forecasting",
"My money is on \"soy boy\". I think they've moved on to that from \"cuck\".",
"But overall is no longer a thing either right now. Minority rules majority, just like old France...",
"You don’t sound at all like you’re trying to be super cool on the internet.",
"Not to mention, she was approving arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and then turning around and saying she was a champion of women's rights. And she magically became pro gay rights when it fit her political needs. And she wants to lock people up for marijuana, and she got money from private prisons. And she said she wants to put boots on the ground in Syria during a CFR conference, but then tells the general public that she doesn't want boots on the ground in Syria. And she called young, black men \"superpredators\" and heavily pushed for a law that ended up imprisoning those young black men at a higher rate than ever before.\n\nI mean the list just goes on man. ",
"Because land is what's truly important, not people.",
"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/14/trump-denounces-kkk-neo-nazis-as-justice-department-launches-civil-rights-probe-into-charlottesville-death/?utm_term=.c5ddfc071116",
"OK, and IRA, and defined benefit plan? And I didn't say \"contributes to\" I said they have one. If you are stupid enough to not contribute don't bitch about getting the returns.",
"It has nothing to do with political opinions, if Trump had run as a democrat I'd be saying the same thing. If it had been Trump up against literally any of the 2016 Republican candidates I would've voted for any of them (except for Ben Carson) because they weren't mentally unstable con-artists, and they all had governing experience.",
"Because he aligned with some of my political ideals whereas Hillary didn’t. I’m not saying that he’s a good guy but imo he was the lesser of two evils.",
"I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant and here you are calling people idiots for having their own opinions.",
">Do you realize the refusal to understand their emotions is probably why they are full of spite?\n\nI said that I refuse to be held hostage by them. Who says I don't understand them?\n\nAnyway, a year or two ago I would have agreed with you. Not any more.\n\nAll the reasonable Trump supporters have abandoned ship. The only ones left are total nutbars. Failing to pretend they're normal in order to soothe their wounded pride is *not* the problem. ",
"Does calling me a subhuman fascoid make you a subhuman fascoid? Do we get name tags? Also I don’t think I cam be a sub human because I can’t stay underwater very long.",
"Don't bother, they know it's a partisan shithole but they want to play dumb",
">Because he aligned with some of my political ideals whereas Hillary didn’t.\n\nWhich ones?",
"I don't think anybody thinks that the rich people who voted for trump are stupid. Assholes maybe, selfish certainly, but not stupid. It's the poor people who believed his everyman^^^tm persona and/or bought his religious credentials that are stupid. If it was only rich people who voted for trump, he would have lost by the largest margin in history. ",
"The Carrier deal included state tax incentives. 1,100 more jobs stayed than if Barry’s chosen successor would have been elected. Someone’s got to fight for those people, they certainly weren’t going to.",
" So why do you like spite so much anyway?\n\nAdmit you're too pathetic to have any innate pride, need to try to grasp yours by pissing others off?\n\nSo fucking insecure about your beliefs you have to fucking lie about work just to salvage a bit of fucking pride?\n\nSeriously what do you get out of it? You like watching rape porn too or something?\n\nNot into anything where one side isn't suffering?\n\nYeah yeah you masturbate to spite, I get it. \n\nWhy?\n\nWhat the fuck is wrong with you?",
"~~At least he’s not Hilary~~\nDon’t blame me — *I* voted for *Kodos*",
"I wish I could give 20 upvotes",
">Did that bring us together and make us a better place?\n\nyeah it reminded a lot of people that every vote matters, a critical ideal that's necessary for democracies.\n\n>We all have similar goals for life and humanity.\n\nmost of human history regarding oppression and overcoming said oppression shows that to be pretty wrong. there are those who want for themselves, and those who want for all.\n\n>Letting politicians in DC tear us apart and split us into a handful of groups is what's destroying this country. \n\nyeah it's DC who wants to split us up. totally. not the Russian government or the super elite.\n\nit's the \"DC overlords\"\n\nremember, both parties are the same right? do you think that's true?",
"Why are you so much more concerned about how land voted than how people voted?",
"Lol that's the dumbest thing I've ever read. ",
"Sucker. ",
"an analogy is the comparison of two things... which means that he compared Trump to nazis, which is what i said... nice try dumbass and your 7th grade insult was really good!",
"What a fucking moron",
"Policy doesn't need to mean an actual order or bill put forward. It can mean a general approach to a subject, which is why that whole subject is called \"Foreign Policy\". ",
"Nope. But representing an entire group of people by only showing the extremes seems like straw picking to me. I also doubt the people smashing people's heads with bike locks and causing riots in the name of anti fascism were wearing make America great again hats. \n\nThinking that all of the right are nazis is pretty bigoted and stereotypical, just as assuming all of the left consists of special snowflakes and Antifa.\n\n",
"You misunderstand. It's a threat. ",
"Hahahaha I guess you know POTUS’ health better than the WH Doctor who gave him an excellent bill of health today...",
"Hyperbole is a cool word ",
"\"You know I didn't even vote for Trump I voted for Gary Johnson but sometimes this kind of over pretentious, winey bullshit makes me wish I did vote for Trump.\"\n\n\"Yeah everyone's always shitting on the Nazis it makes me want to vote Nazi.\"\n\nRidinBiden is drawing an extreme comparison to demonstrate how stupid xxplantjaysonxx's \"vote for someone just because others dislike them\" sentiment is. Trump's similarity to a Nazi, existent or not, is in no way relevant to his point.",
"\"Everything is fake unless I want to believe it!\" - the /u/zipperskined story",
"Sure, some pharmaceutical company's are greedy. However, there are some who don't rip off their customers. Also, it takes 100s of millions to develop new medications. Without incentives/inovation, there will never be a cure for diseases/cancers, or equipment to perform flawless surgeries. ",
"Why do people have a problem with a sub dedicated to supporting a political candidate supporting that political candidate. /r/The_Donald is a rally not a place for debate. There are subs for debates and discussions, but that's not one of them. And it's not just left leaning people who need to understand this. There's plenty of people who complain about places like /r/LateStageCapitalism not being open for opposing viewpoints and they're just as wrong. That being said, subs like /r/politics are shit because they're supposed to be for debates and discussion, but instead are a rally. ",
"I don't think you should call people idiots for voting for Trump. They are people just like you they just have a different opinion.",
"Clinton wouldn't harm the host?\n\nBro, she continued to antagonize and bully a nuclear power who stated multiple times that if things got any worse nuclear war would be their only option... I fail to understand how a global nuclear war wouldn't harm the US.\n\nShe also supported an increase in immigration to the country, which has been proven numerous times and has been made very obvious by the examples of Europe and Canada is highly damaging to the host country. \n\nShe openly stated she wanted to make laws to \"fix\" non-existant problems like the wage gap, which yet again would be massively harmful to the US.\n\nShe held decades worth of classified government information on a poorly protected private server, and then when she was found out, immediately deleted all the evidence claiming it was 10k \"personal emails,\" which if that isn't an admission of guilt I don't know what is. which if you try to claim that doesn't harm the US, then my god, there is no hope for you.\n\nHer non-profit \"humanitarian\" organization took money from countries that are objectively enemies of the US, or at very least people that do not share our values and that we don't particularly like, like Saudi Arabia and other middle eastern countries. Now, having your organization reviving money from countries that most US citizens would consider our enemies is rather shady to begin with, but considering that it was a Humanitarian organization receiving money from Saudi Arabia, that's a whole 'nother level of shady (I'm sure that Saudi Arabia just all of a sudden started caring about human rights.)\n\nLet's also not forget the fact that a lot of people who leaked information about Clinton conveniently and consistently seemed to end up dying under rather suspicious circumstances.\n\nLet's also remember all her wrong-doings related to Benghazi.\n\nAnd then finally, let's not forget that Clinton was almost directly responsible for the rise of one of the biggest threats to the United States today, ISIS.\n\nBut sure, she wouldn't cause any harm.\n\nFace it, Trump is just a bumbling idiot, and guess what, we already survived 8 years of a bumbling idiot just fine back in 2000-2008.",
"No one cares.",
"So you ignored a valid argument. How rational of you!",
"and democrats are smart? Right... last I checked both parties were full of idiots.",
"Ah the internet, what a horrible but wonderful place to spend your time ",
"Virtually uncontrolled immigration did fine in the U.S. from the mid 1800s to 1925. Coincidentally, it is also the time period when most people who are alive now in the U.S. had their families come here. But that doesn't stop them from pulling the ladder up after them. But here I am talking about logic when all you care about is race and religion.\n\nIf you'd follow along for a minute, immigration results in economic growth. When you stop immigration, you curtail economic growth. It's really quite simple and logical.\n\nAnd then you reply and spout some more about how only white Christian immigration is good. Stuff it. You'll never fucking learn. I hope you meet some people who are different from you someday.",
"It's not the current leadership, it's the opposition to the current leadership that is creating divisiveness.",
"I fucking hate Trump support, but you’re absolutely right. People will double down on their ignorant views out of spite. If you really want to change views, you have to help those people see the truth for themselves. I find that being kind and asking genuine/not “gotcha!” questions helps people be more open to new ideas. ",
"Yea, and you seem like a great human.",
"Seriously? I'm honestly astounded that people who live in this country don't know basic information about what is going on.\n\n> The Trump administration today will officially announce the end of the Clean Power Plan, a regulation limiting planet-warming carbon dioxide emissions from power plants\nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administration-is-repealing-obamas-clean-power-plan/\n\n\n> Trump Administration Targets CO2 Standards for Vehicles\nhttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-administration-targets-co2-standards-for-vehicles/\n\n\n> Trump’s Coal Man Is Racing Against the Clock to Bail Out Plants\nhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-28/trump-s-coal-man-is-racing-against-the-clock-to-bail-out-plants\n\n\n> United States withdrawal from the Paris Agreement\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_the_Paris_Agreement",
"You’re giving leftists way too much credit. ",
"Gordon......",
"I prefer to think of it as *'holding them to a reasonable standard of decency'* but sure, why not. ",
"Unfortunately the disgusting hatred and bigotry he’s given a voice to will last much longer...",
"I just can't support either party because neither of them have a platform I can believe in. \n\nFor example, I agree with gay marriage, but the government should not be involved in marriage, period. Gay or straight. \n\nI would like to be able to drink raw cow milk, being fully aware of the health risks involved. \n\nI would also like to own any plant I want, and smoke it if I choose, when I choose. \n\nI want to be able own any weapon that catches my fancy, without having to get an ATF stamp. \n\nI'd like a greater choice in ISPs, peferably non-US ISPs (Hello, South Korea Telecom). \n\nI'd also like the property I purchase to be mine entirely, to do with as I please, and to decide who is and is not welcome on it.\n\nThere's a lot more, but you could call that my personal platform.",
"Thanks. I participate in 4Chan and whatnot because I find them amusing as memes, but people who bring those antics outside their respective forums or take them too seriously are just being cancerous.",
"The total single most ironic thing is how clever this statement is if you simply change the way you look at it.\n",
"One might even say in the shit hole pretty soon. ",
"I dont understand. What's r/awww for then?",
"If they will elect an idiot conman out of spite towards people implying that they're stupid... maybe they *are* stupid. ",
"I'd give up if I were you too. I didn't ever say that all Trump supporters are racists. But you absolutely are. Maybe you'll grow up one day.",
"Gross imagery. ",
"That's not how burden of proof works.",
"You didn’t comprehend anything I wrote. You can’t see past your own frothing mouth and hatred pal. ",
"And now, if you were to respond to me as I responded to you (thoughtfully and with substance) I might have been more inclined to listen to you.",
"The fact that you don’t understand the point being made here is the only amazing thing.",
"Naw bro I'm wicked smaht",
"It’s your. ",
"If you didn't vote, you pretty much voted for the candidate you didn't want to win. And you likely bitched about it online if they won. Well done.",
"You too. I think we fundamentally disagree on some underlying principles here and a full discussion could take hours, so I'll just say I appreciate you hearing out a different opinion",
"Are you gonna make a real point or just make fun of a the guys skin tone?",
"Not trying to argue at all, just pointing out the quite obvious fact that it's better to have an incompetent idiot over a scheming, power mongering criminal as your leader.",
"Because just anyone can drive an 18 wheeler carrying temperature controlled precious cargo across country, amirite?!? That line of thinking has paid off in spades when it comes to the hiring practices of the TSA. “We’ll just hire any idiots to keep us safe,” annnnnd we’re less safe.",
"Not all Trump supporters are racist, but all racists are Trump supporters, eh? I'm not sure I buy that, but I'm sure that it's true in your experience, at least.\n\nMy heart is really not in this argument, so I'll just say this: stereotypes do not just pop up out of thin air. There's a reason most people think \"liberal\" when talking about identity politics, there's a reason that doing any research on it leads to overwhelmingly leftist discussion, and it isn't an accident. While I agree that the right isn't exactly guilt free here, I don't think they hold a candle to us. \n\nI'm a liberal with not a whole lot of respect for most liberals though, so grain of salt and have a good day.",
"If you are capable of compromise, then compromise.\n\nIf you are not, you are free to say \"My way or the highway\" but you will generally get fucked over unless you are incredibly wealthy.",
"Haha of course I am. ",
"Her Foundation dissolved after she lost the election... Hmmm thats odd. Why would a charity foundation of that caliber stop operating once the person running it loses political power.... ",
"Honestly, it's racist because they don't like him. Period.",
"I wake up every morning and take my morning poop while reading what embarrassing shit trump last did. There's almost always something new. \n\nI don't have to insult him when he's already a joke. ",
"Of course he didn’t do it *just* to make himself more rich. There’s all of the contributors to his campaign and the congressman backing him up too. I think his real motive is either:\n\nA) to pass legislation to create his ideal society.\nB) to pass legislation to ensure he has a huge cushion of money for when he leaves office.\nC) to pass legislation to attempt to widen the gap between political parties, thus causing even more hatred in between the two major parties.\nD) to pass legislation to undo anything and everything Obama did during his eight years as president.\nE) to pass legislation allowing choice corporations (generally corporations that lobby exorbitant amounts of money) to do whatever they want.\nF) All of the above.\n\nNow you can call me an idiotic extreme leftist if you want but I’m just looking at what he’s already done as president and interpreting the motives behind each decision.\n\nEdit: found grammatical errors\n\nEdit 2: I’m not surprised a politician isn’t fulfilling his promises. One of the bases of his campaign that attracted voters however was his “drain the swamp” campaign. I personally didn’t vote for him, however I communicate with plenty of people that took his statements at face value.",
"Yea, I don't use it, I'm one of those evil people you think should be taxed more. Let's hope your ridiculous Democrat politicians don't find some new way to waste it. They're pretty good at throwing away tax revenue.",
"Nope. Your libertarian pride keeps you from.accepting big gubment support.",
"I'll mod for you bb I'm already a mod at /r/balisongs\n",
"What part of that did you not understand?🤔",
"Facts = downvotes here. ",
"So youre going to look at one shitty example and judge it...which, if i recall, was the mayors fault...and say the EPA is useless?\n\nLol youre special\n\nIf it were up to you youd bring back child labor too huh? Let people dump chemicals into rivers, so they ignite (whats up Ohio)?",
"You literally sound like a copy and paste buzzfeed op ed. You took like 6 paragraphs to say “I don’t like trump and he should go to jail just like anyone else who does something similar.” \n\nI don’t care. ",
"\"People who thought Trump would make a good president are idiots\" is a generalization on par with \"people who think the Earth is flat are idiots\". ",
"Nowhere on your link does it show billions going to CA for pollution. The EPA also groups CA with other states for their budget consideration. I still don't get where you are getting that number for CA alone. ",
"> Sure, then put her through due process of law.\n\nThat's the point. She should have been charged and given an opportunity to defend herself. She wasn't, because high level law-enforcement officials were doing everything they could to cover for her.\n\n> Unless you're some slack-jawed idiot, you know that Trump is your president, you have full power in the house and senate, and they would happily have done so immediately, just like they promised.\n\nYou can't just try the opposition party's candidate without dotting an i and crossing a t about a thousand times. Otherwise it just looks like criminalizing politics. Which is why it's taken a year...\n\n> So where is she now?\n\n...to [justify reexamining the e-mail investigation](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/justice-department-reopens-hillary-clinton-email-investigation/article/2644956) and [starting an investigation into pay-for-play and corruption allegations related to The Clinton Foundation](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-fbi-is-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/2018/01/05/1aca0d4a-f1cf-11e7-97bf-bba379b809ab_story.html?utm_term=.542f19da8a06). Where is Clinton now? She's back under multiple investigations, and hopefully these will be done more appropriately than the ones in the past.",
"Yes. He was. He wasn't running for president. His wife was. ",
"Yes. The left winged idiots trying to tear down the country with their safe spaces and SJW attitudes. BTW my real name is Hugh Mungus. **TRIGGERED**",
"Sorting by controversial I'm surprised it's not locked already.",
"You're right, I'm totally gonna change this guys mind.",
"This is fantastic! ",
"Trump isnt some magician that can turn the country around in less than a year. ",
"Rent free!",
"Losing an election",
"you're right, maybe if we're nice to the Trump supporters, and *really* listen to them, they'll magically transform into reasonable people!",
"Well, the majority of those who agree with you spread unnecessary hate. ",
"Have to disagree with you here. Selling more shit, I.E product, is what increases gdp (gross domestic PRODUCT). To sell stuff you must have a buyer. Those buyers, in our services based economy, are us, consumers. The markets are a measure of the future expectations of a company's value, sure, but not in any way of what they provide or produce. For example, a ton of companies have been changing their names to include the word \"crypto\". Their stock price are jumping hundreds of percent in days. They are not producing more, nor providing more service. See the difference? Using the markets as a measure of economic prosperity is a mess.",
"And usually not as polite as simply calling you \"stupid and wrong.\"",
"K",
"Have you ever seen [the video with the jellybeans?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOksW_NabEk) It's uncomfortable because the whole video is about all the non-negotiable things in our lives and how many days of our lives will be consumed by them. It really puts things in perspective.\n\nI believe strongly in the idea of open debate, and I believe that the country doesn't have enough of it. I believe that, if I can change one person's mind, or even be convinced myself to see something someone else's way, I'll have made the world a better place. But all of that takes time. People, myself included, are stubborn, and changing minds isn't easy. Because I only have so much time, I want to spend it engaging with people in a way that will have the most positive impact on the world, and I don't want to spend all my time on politics, anyway. I don't want to waste a single jellybean.\n\nEight years ago, I didn't think I had to argue with people about whether literal Nazis parading in the street was positive, and I had the luxury of shrugging off people who actually held Nazi beliefs. I hope you understand the culture shock where I now have a president claiming a Nazi rally had \"good people on both sides\". So what happened?\n\nWell, a few very wealthy and fairly clever people figured out that a certain group would find appeal in any idea that was rejected by mainstream society, regardless of what the idea was. Probably the most extreme example of this would be Milo Yiannopoulos, but there are shades of it all over. In fact, I take back what I said about it being a certain group with this quirk; I think everyone has it to a degree.\n\nToday I try not to reject any argument, because I have stopped knowing what idea might be popular in a year or two. I don't think my right-wing counterparts are all idiots, but I will defend every idea that I disagree with them on until I've changed their mind or my own. That being said, I think the reality is that people aren't always going to make time to argue with you. I get that it stings for someone to deem you not worthy of even having an argument, but you don't know how many jellybeans that person has left.",
"I can look at him and know he’s obese and any doctor that would call him in excellent health with his diet of McDonald’s cheeseburgers and that waistline is a quack hired to sign a paper.",
"So she got more points at a game no one was playing. ",
"Hw about this generalization “People who thoughtTrump would be a better president than Hillary were reasonable.”",
"And I'm sure those people have strong disdain for what they feel is excessive taxation and inefficient government spending. \n\nI try not to bring up politics on reddit because my profile is practically a ticking time bomb, but I'm pretty much smack right in the middle of the spectrum in the moderate camp, and I travel back and forth between an extremely liberal / extremely conservative area and the dichotomy is laughable. I've seen quite a few people on both sides act like they're infallible when both platforms have their respective problems. But the left will continue to parade on the idea that their platform is better overall while completely disregarding the fact that many people on the right are vote based on a small number of issues that they feel are most important (i.e. quality vs quantity) and the pendulum swings back and forth as usual.\n\nPersonally, I feel like the best policy is often somewhere in between the left/right platforms, and that this give and take is pretty much what we're going to have to live with to ever get those policies. If that means that there's going to be animosity between the left and right, I don't really like it, but so be it.",
"Not really. I stated facts and what is going on currently, brought reasonable statements into the conversation, and even admitted that he has done positive things for the country. You don’t have to care about my political beliefs, but I was sort of hoping to have a conversation rather than an argument.",
"Maybe my favorite post ever",
"I never claimed they were all bad...",
"ack misread that as \"his debate strategies were god awful\"",
"Lol, you don’t have a job. Republicans are all inbred, meth-abusing troglodyte subhumans.",
"I absolutely agree, that's why it's such an accomplishment that Trump has put in place policies allowing more companies to come back to the US. Millions of jobs, Billions of dollars. Thanks Trump.",
"Why? I don’t want to converse with you. \n\nIm only here cause I’m bored.",
">Because just anyone can drive an 18 wheeler\n\nNo one needs to drive them, we have self-driving trucks now. Good luck competing against machines if your only skill is driving an 18-wheeler. You are going to be making near minimum wage and eventually replaced by an immigrant who will do your job for $1 an hour cheaper.\n\n",
"How many times has it been opened and closed now lmao?",
"I thought we were all rich, greedy, country club members. Which one is it today?",
"Sorry for whatever happened to you man. You know not all people are that person, not all days are that day. You ever want to unload some of that baggage, my inbox is open friend.",
"It blows my mind that there are still people that think Hillary would've been worse.\n\nI can't imagine anything I type is going to change your mind... but Christ, I hope something does, because I don't know how long a civilization can sustain itself when this many people seem to be living in an entirely different reality. ",
"how is ridiculing your grandfather's mental decline in any way the same as \"using critical thinking skills?\"\n\nI'm sorry your grandfather has to go out like that. Truly a terrible disease.",
"Okay then. You could have just said that instead of being rude. But seriously, this country is never going to get anywhere if people refuse to talk to others because they have conflicting beliefs.\n\nHave a good day.",
"I laugh at them since they basically prove our point about how triggered the left gets about everything!",
"Well checking your profile you still like nerf guns, so I'd say it's even",
"I didn’t say for CA alone. Is it not reasonable to expect a bureaucracy funded with hundreds of billions over the years, tasked with, “protecting the environment,” do more for LA’s horrendous smog problem? Or Flint residents being poisoned? Tell me, how much more money should we give them until they get off their asses and do their jobs?",
"The wealthy elite have enough food and tables to go around, they dont need more tax breaks. The best part is how the globalists profit the most from Trump's tax plan, the same globalists that every Trump supporter have been railing against for the past two years. ",
"See, that's exactly the kind of smug bullshit a leftist would say to make people on the right seem like arseholes!",
"Who are you to say what decency is? What makes your opinion more valid than someone else's?",
"Please, she sucked at both jobs that were handed to her as she did nothing to deserve either, the only thing she was qualified for is being a part of the corrupt Clinton's clan",
"I’m not being rude to you, you just interpret my disinterest in what you have to say as rude. ",
"You do realize that the U.S is propped up economically by a very few profitable states that are almost all blue while the rest are in debt. If the red states were to secede they would be in massive economic trouble and would fail as a nation.",
"Trump goes into office and the right suddenly thinks we live in a socialist dictatorship where the President has sole authority over a centralized economy. ",
"Unemployment is higher now, you are being lied to - again - by Trump's administration.",
"Lol why would I get triggered. You Americans cry for the stupidest things.",
"Yeah the system shouldn't make the votes of people from New York or LA count for twice as much as the votes of people from small, rural states.\n\nBut do you think it should do the opposite?",
"I also support breaking down any and all barriers to international trade. Let money, products, and services flow freely between nations, across borders, and watch the real free market work. Net Neutrality is such a hot button issue because companies like Comcast and Verizon have made it impossible for outsiders to come in and offer their services. The only ones with any money to really compete with them are ISPs that aren't based in the US.",
"“No one cares” is typically a rude way to express disinterest in what I have to say.",
"Self driving cars have been a fucking disaster. Yeah, I’d love to see Cali sustain itself with unvaccinated immigrants handling their vegetation and self driving 18 wheelers delivering it. Hilarious!",
"Right, cause there's been no advances in medicine since the ACA was passed. \n\nLook, there's merit to your argument, there's no denying that, but if nobody but the rich can afford those advancements, what's the point? Under trumpcare, as it stood last summer, millions of people would lose health insurance, whether they could afford it or not. Is the ACA percent t? Far from it, but killing it altogether would be disastrous. ",
"Do you think the US tax code has an effect on the creation of a new company in Nigeria? As a conservative, aren't you supposed to have a firm grasp on supply and demand? Well, we are in demand - even with our not highest taxes. And as you said above, if we're importing goods and giving companies business, they should absolutely compete for said business. Willingness to comply to what the country needs as opposed to what they want seems like a good place to begin competition. ",
"\"I bet you can't scull a gallon of milk\" is the attitude that got the gallon of milk sculled... but that doesn't make the vomit cleanup any less necessary.\n\nMaybe the fragile fucks that elected Trump because they thought the big scary liberal media elites were making fun of them should grow up?",
"Great responses, insightful and fill of fact. You sure convinced me with your sarcastic pandering and real counterpoint!",
"It was a bit less than half.",
"How is racism responsible for him winning? Why do we have to assume that everyone is so simple it's really frustrating to keep seeing",
"I dont deny the holocaust.\n\nWhat I said wasn't made up at all. Here are some fusion516 quotes to prove how ignorant you both are\n\n\"You're a fool if you still believe in NASA.\"\n\n\"meh. cant really take NASA serious anymore\"\n\n\"This was a UFO. Saw it firsthand.\"\n\n\"This is how UFO's fly. dont believe it. LOOK IT UP!\"\n\nEat shit low IQ bitch",
"Having a hard time understanding what you mean from the minor typos, that or I'm just tired. I think small states should have just as much say as the larger ones. ",
"😂🤣",
"Oh yeah -more libtarded political shit. ",
"The comment was about LA. Have you been to LA? The smog is far less due to CARB regulations. I haven't the slightest idea why you're citing Flint for this either. That was local government neglecting the known pipe issue. ",
"Okay. Let me rephrase myself to be more accommodating of your fragilities, \n\nI am disinterested in what you have to say on the matter.\n\nNow, do you know when the next origin sale is? Or do you have a favorite episode of The Office? Have a new course you’re taking in school? A new project you’re working on in photography? Those are cool things, I’d like to hear about those.",
"We already scrutinize people - it takes upwards of 3-years of vetting for people from certain countries. What is it that you think Trump will do different in this regard?\n\nWhat will a wall accomplish? You do know there are, literally, thousands of miles of tunnels. A wall just costs you money and stops, literally, zero people. In fact, it will probably rise because the tunnel locations will spread faster without an easier route. Nobody wants that wall, and Mexico is not going to pay for it - that's what he ran on. If you ran on a platform of doing X, and it won't cost you anything - then X suddenly costs you money, the premise of your election is bankrupt.",
"Annnnnnnd you’ve proven to me how dumb you are. ",
"he's crying? Enjoy the rest of the Trump term :)",
"The only thing I don't like about [this cartoon](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw9Cr2TXcAE_aJA.jpg) is the room should be less pleasant before he gets started. Like we should see some reason for his dissatisfaction.",
"I, on the other hand, expect it to be totally civil and stay on topic with the issues people care about. Also I'm sure Russian trolls won't be involved.",
"You brought up automation as if it was an economy ending crisis. Not me. But thanks for going through my comments, it shows you care <3",
"I’m sorry you think the sky is falling when the best President in the last 200 years is in the White House driving an unstoppable US economy. ",
"Or its because of the grammatical errors and not being able to comprehend what he's trying to say. 🤔",
"“YES WE CAN” was certainly not group think was it?",
"The net benefit of these immigrants had been hugely positive though, what's the point of changing how we do it now for low terror-threat countries?\n\nStudy after study about immigration and economics shows that GDP grows when we are more inclusive. One example: https://hbr.org/2017/04/why-mass-migration-is-good-for-long-term-economic-growth\n\nAnd please do expand on what merits are suggested we use and why it isn't already covered by one of our many visa types.",
"Sounds like a librul.\n\nHere's a pin.\n\nVote Quimby!",
"🙄\n\nI forgot she was handed that senate job, she didn't have to get elected or anything. ",
"Don’t lie it’s a tax cut for most Americans. ",
"Merely pointing out their hypocrisy.",
"Wouldn't that make the first point invalid?\n-Trump's policy has made the economy great again.\n-The policy is actually from Obama's tenure as president\n-Federal budget isn't the economy and government has no effect on the economy \n\nThe first and last statement Can't both be true simultaneously. So if you're defending trump you've just created a logical paradox. \n",
"Lol really triggered you the Donald users eh?",
"Worse how? The world is laughing at us. We have no trade power. Our ambassadors are quitting. The presidential bar for decorum is at reddit shit-poster levels. Puerto Rico still has no power. Federal government is getting *shit* done because every. fucking. day. Trump tweets some bullshit that he has to backpeddle or double down on from his 11am to 3pm workday.",
"> Bloomberg and scientificamerican are not know for their balanced view points.\n\nYou've gone off the deep end. You can find the *exact* same info about the Clean Power Plan on Fox News. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/09/epas-pruitt-announces-trump-administration-scrapping-obama-era-coal-regs.html\n\n> Did you know more cows put off more C02 than the entire energy field does in the US?\n\nCows don't output CO2, they output *methane*. Stop acting like you know what the fuck you are talking about.\n\n > cows put off more C02 than the entire energy field does in the US\n\nNo, cows do not output more *methane* than our energy sector; agriculture is 7% of US total emissions, and cow farts a small part of that 7%. *Not even close*. https://extension.psu.edu/carbon-methane-emissions-and-the-dairy-cow\n\n> The TPP\n\nNo, the *Paris Climate Agreement*. The only other country on the entire planet not party to the agreement is Nicaragua, and they have not joined *because they think it doesn't go far enough at limiting greenhouse gas emissions*.",
"If I said your house was a shithole and you happened to be black, would it be racist?\n\nNo, you can't be racist to a house.",
"Oh here we go with this shit. What's makes your opinion more valid than a terrorists?",
"Just trying to make sure misinformation isn't spread. It's a common misunderstanding. You're right. She doesn't necessarily reflect the company she keeps and her marriage is a sham anyway.",
"I comprehended it perfectly. I caught the dog whistles too. You're performing admirably as a Trump supporter.",
"I suppose now would be a good time to express my disinterest in having a conversation with you. I’m not offended by you, but I’d rather not converse with someone who will insult me anyway.\n\nAs I said before, have a good day.",
"http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-summer-smog-20160805-snap-story.html\n\nLA’s smog problem has hardly improved, and the EPA has done nothing to curb it. Flint’s toxic water was made known to the EPA before it became public. They proceeded to do exactly what they always do when confronted with a crisis, collect their tax funded paychecks and do absolutely nothing.",
"Sounds like you two agree, he likes the fact that people like you are paying attention and holding him accountable for his actions, unlike how Obama's Presidentcy was treated and unlike how people treated Hillary during her campaign.",
"If it's any consolation, I also despise having to pay taxes. However my personal conclusion is that taxes are ultimately beneficial to society so I understand why we have to pay them. Likewise, I can also see how other cultures can easily clash with our own ('western culture' for the sake of my argument) and how nationalism can seem like a lucrative solution to the issues created within societies where multiculturalism is prevalent. But once again, despite my personal beliefs I can see how allowing immigration can ultimately play a beneficial role within society. \n\nI'm in Australia for the record, and we have an increasing problem with an aging population which is probably going to fuck us royally in the next few decades as more of the population begins to retire from the workforce. But immigration is a practical solution to this problem since immigrants are able to enter the workforce to offset the effects of the increasing number of retirees. \n\nI guess it ultimately comes down to whether you want to serve society, or serve yourself. Left wingers generally push to serve society (higher taxes, more socialisation of services etc) while right wingers tend to prefer to serve themselves (tax breaks, less government spending, tougher immigration policies etc). \n\nThose are just my personal conclusions on the matter of course, but I figured there was no harm in throwing them out there for the sake of discussion :P\n\nAll the best mate. ",
"...you do understand the same public who polls said hated him voted him in, right?\n\n8 years! \n\nhttps://imgur.com/wxNMr3Y",
"I thought a leader was supposed to... I dunno... lead, and help, his country.",
"With Trump, every day is a fresh day of scandles, shitposting to twitter, eating bigmacs, diet cokes - and thats just before the day starts at 11am!",
"I agree completely. Even if we manage to impeach Trump, it's going to take a lot of work to put America back together again.",
"I’m not even American you fool lol. ",
"We want the best. The benefit of America above all.",
"No kidding. DAE hate Trump? #LOL #WTFITS #TRUMPSUX. \n\nSeriously though, I guess the reddit devs/admins are pretty liberal, makes sense, lots of young, techy/startup kind of people are. But this sub has just been a constant stream of either praising Obama or making fun of Trump and/or Bush. It's /r/pics, it's meant to be for pictures. I guess technically a picture of Trump with the title \"This man just ate a baby on live TV, click for more info!!!\" is technically fitting, and I'm not gonna be all sensationalist and say OMG GOOD BYE, but holy shit is this sub falling apart quickly.",
"I know, and I can't believe Republicans blindly support it.\n\nThe fucked up part is that I make twice as much as my SO and I'm breaking even with the tax cuts while she will be paying significantly more.",
"Another triggered trump supporter. Did I hit a nerve there?\n\nEdit: bud.",
"Hey man, do you have any interests or hobbies? I'd love to hear about them. Do you like video games? I swear I have an obsession.",
"Why?",
"Tapper's clarification was specifically about calling Haiti and some other countries \"shitholes\", however, the president did say \"why do we need more Haitians? Take them out (of the protected visa status)\" so, still every bit angering.\n\nEdit: I should add, I grew up in South Florida. Everyone in every industry has had Haitian coworkers, most have had a Haitian friend. They own businesses, operate churches. They are certainly assets to the culture and economy down there. I don't recall meeting many Norwegians though",
"Notice how we've heard nothing of those allegations after the election.",
"Can we compare Romney to Trump, and ask them which they think would be doing a better job?",
"It isn't. We're all just ants on a rock. ",
"My god, this is like \"What do you think of Obama thinking that all Christians should be converted to Islam\" \n\nYou really think Trump is a racist KKK nazi flag waving xenophobe, just like rednecks thought Obama was the second coming of Mohamed.\n\nYou're easily played by media hyperbole and their appeal to emotion. Where's the jack-booted death squads rooting out and making all the brown people disappear? ",
"I voted for Hillary first of all. Second, hind site is 20/20. Her campaign was a shit show",
"Now, that’s a declination of casual conversation on the grounds of personal belief. I wanted to make amends, bury the hatchet, and you have to cut me like that? How awful.\n\nI bid you farewell. Never speak to me or my son again.",
"Thank you for understanding. That was one of the reasons I actually posted this comment. I also wanted to add more productivity by trying to continue this conversation in a civilized manner, but that went nowhere.",
">Federal budget isn't the economy and government has no effect on the economy \n\nSince I never said this you are talking rubbish, aren't you?",
"In all fairness, I did starting modding Nerf blasters back in high school.",
"You were not going to change your mind regardless of facts. DJSaltyNutz is just trying to stoop to the level of decorum that our President uses. Get with the program - facts are fake if you just say they are! Then you insult someone or entire continents, then you tell a nuclear power what a big dick you have. All in a days (or half a days) work!",
"imply\n>to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated\n\nTo say someone's opinion idiotic, without explaining why or anything more is implying the person is stupid. Unless connotation and context is lost in you. For the same reason I state and repeat below\n\n>Ideas should always be criticized and rejected if untrue our misguided.\n\nI never said ideas shouldn't be criticized. I said *saying nothing but an insult isn't criticism*\n\n\nI'm just gonna quote what you said:\n>Not seeing this distinction could mean that you are stupid, but I'd wager that you just misread (or read what you wanted to read in the post). A lot of flame wars start with such misunderstandings.\nP.S.",
"Yeah, but supporting Trump does. Sorry about your disability.",
"Then go away",
"Lmao they just get so mad once you use their insults against em. Also it's pretty ironic that they spam safe space when r/t_d literally bans any dissenting opinion or anything slightly critical of trump.",
"Agreed. Intent and expectations compared to the current outcomes are very different than anyone could’ve foreseen. ",
"I thought the stuff that people liked the most was supposed to get on the top of Reddit. How does this 62% liked post get so high?\n\nReddit is a shithole.",
"Just what he has done to dismantle The State Department and Regulatory Agencies is enough for me. Paying off porn stars and a thousand other embarrassments are just the arsenic sauce on the triple decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwich. Oh and conspiring with a hostile foreign power to undermine elections. It's like he has done impeachment times 1000 and somehow that brings us full circle.",
">Is MSNBC and CNN also lying too\n\nPresident Trump says they are fake news. So, yes - they are lying. Are you calling God Emperor a liar?!?",
"No, I’m Christian.",
"Thats a load of bs, trump won fair and square because frankly the guys a genius in using the ad hominem fallacy. He appeals to peoples emotioms and to great effect. Dont pit me with those who believe he orchestrated with russians... ",
"Sorry I was out enjoying the snow.\n\nOk let's discuss. \n\nAnti-science. I assume he's referring to global warming. I haven't studied the issue, but I'll side with the scientists on this one. However, I'm okay with pulling out of the Paris Climate agreement because the US ponied up a disproportionate amount of money and was bending over backwards in ways other countries weren't doing. Another facet of global warming is cost/benefit. Obviously if we are speaking of destroying the earth, then yeah, that's a problem. But to what degree are we impacting the earth, and what could feasibly we do to stop it? And is it worth it? If we're talking about 100,000 Americans losing jobs vs. DiCaprio losing 3' of coastline on his private beach in LA, then I'll have to take a hard pass on Leo. Now, if the effects are substantial, then yeah I'd certainly be more open to that. Once again, I'd have to see the solutions.\n\nAnti-intellectualism. I don't really know what he's referring to here.\n\nRacism. I have yet to see a credible instance of Trump being a racist. \"BUT HE HATES MEXICANS.\" No. I don't like people being here that are leeching our money. We spend, what, like $100B a year on illegal immigrants and get what in return? \"But they do jobs Americans won't do.\" Maybe. Who knows. Pure conjecture, though. Zero evidence to support this claim. As far as Trump's alleged \"shithole\" comments yesterday, that is not in any way racist. Places like Africa are objectively among the most terrible areas on the world in which to live. This isn't even debatable. 17 of the highest 30 countries in mortality rate are from Africa.\n\nSexism. Trump talks about dicks, he talks about pussies, he talks about a lot of things. He picks on men and women equally it seems. Now, you can call him unprofessional or an asshole or whatever but I don't think he's sexist. His pussygate comments didn't look very good, but everybody here says stuff that they would be incredibly embarrassed to have released, and almost every guy has talked like that in some form. I would argue Bill Clinton is the bigger sexist for getting his dick sucked by Monica in the Oval Office while being married. This is actually proven actions, not talk or allegations.\n\nLaughingstock to the rest of the world. Meh. It's really just Europe. We're on pretty good terms with Asia. Similarly to the aforementioned Paris Climate Accord, the UN is another thing we provide a disproportionate amount to compared to other countries. And with the crazy amount of foreign aid we give, I think a lot of countries are just butthurt that we finally have an administration that does not want to be an open checkbook to the world. And I think we, the taxpayers, should be supportive of that. ",
"> Self driving cars have been a fucking disaster.\n\nLMAO - I think you have been in the sun too long.\n\nGood luck feeding yourself off the millions of pounds of corn red states produce to make corn syrup...real nutrition in that! ",
">Holy fuck you are so fussy.\n>You just gave me an anger boner.\n\nSo you do like rape porn? Get hard when you beat your wife? Would you fucking cum from shooting a liberal or do you need more tactile response from something like a knife?\n\nReally curious just how turned on you are by sociopathic behavior.\n\nCan't say too many are stupid enough to admit that. \n\n>You were living in Vancouver a few years ago. Are you even an American? LOL\n\nWhy the fuck would you care, does your \"anger boner\" only work when you don't have to cross international boarders if you wanted to rape someone?\n\nOr do you just need an excuse to say \"you're irrelevant\" because your little spite act is getting hard to maintain?\n\nReally why the fuck do you care?",
"This bugs me too. We don't have to pretend Hillary was perfect in order to be better than trump",
"Aight I replied to somebody above you. You all had nearly the same comment so I just picked one to reply to.",
"\"A lack of air-cleansing storms during the drought had worsened ozone and fine-particle pollution across the state, though even those smog levels remained far below what plagued the Los Angeles region in the 1970s and ’80s.\" \n\nFrom the article. The spike was attributed to the drought, heat, and fires. Still remained below the 70's and 80's.\n\n\nEdit: i didn't address Flint. https://www.epa.gov/flint. They gave flint 100mil for upgrade and repair projects.",
"I’m not against immigration in general, but come on, be realistic please. We’ve allowed terrorist sympathizers in here through various methods of immigration that need to be overhauled or reformed in some manner. Allowing people to pour over the border unchecked, carrying disease is plain ludicrous. Allowing scum like the San Bernardino shooter and the parents of the Boston Bombers (via “asylum”) have certainly not been positive for us. We can’t just sit back and pretend it’s fine just because we fortunately do receive plenty of wonderful immigrants who contribute and acclimate to our society.",
"I stooped to the level of Trump? How?",
"Right, because a minority that goes against the norms can’t possibly exist! Sorry, I don’t do identity politics.",
"and read your comment\n>TIL thinking that people have the right to believe whatever they want means nothing can ever be criticized. \n\n*Critcism* isn't just calling an Idea stupid. That's not how it works",
"I would feel the same way if I saw that bumper sticker paired with a hillary or Bernie sticker. ",
"Her campaign dumped literal shit into my hometowns storm drains.",
"For real though! So many conservatives want us to devolve into a non PC culture and revert back to the days of “freedom” when you could still use the “n” word and say openly racist shit. \n\nNowadays you pull shit like that you get called out for it and rightly so. Of course these whiners came up with an “anti-PC” movement and claimed their freedom of speech is being suppressed. The mental gymnastics of these nut jobs is insane.",
"You're right. When people are insulted for their \"beliefs\" it's been shown in studies to usually further entrench them to their side. It's not how to persuade people to change.\n\nThat being said NOW THIS FUCKING MORONIC RACIST ORANGE SLUG IS OUR PRESIDENT AND THOSE FUCKING MORONIC RACIST DIPSHITS PUT HIM THERE!\n\nSo I'm pissed. And I enjoy laughing at their idiocy because it makes me feel better. If only in the way that a tear dilutes some salt out of an ocean.\n\nEdit: just realized tears have salt, too...but if anything that makes it more fitting",
"I don't have any disability, why would you assume that... oh, is it because you don't like hearing opinions that differ from yours. Oh ok that makes sense, fuck off. ",
"The mandate was controversial mainly because they were just looking for something to make controversial. Suddenly Republicans that had supported the idea thought it was the worst thing ever. \n\nFunny how that works.",
"Immigration, Jobs, America First, I just thought he was better overall. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. ",
"> He does want to discuss though\n\n> What point is there in discussion?\n\nHe doesn't want to, by his own words.\n\nFortunately somebody else wants to, so I replied to somebody above you. You all had nearly the same comment so I just picked one to reply to\n",
"I would have to disagree with that. ACA is disastrous by itself. My family's health insurance almost doubled under it. How is it fair that we have to pay a doubled premium, while others (who don't pay a dime) get free healthcare. Pulling billions away from countries that want to destroy us/people who drain our country without contributing/assimilating, will take care of the truly needy and deserving. You give each state a nice sizeable budget (which will last throughout the year), and they deal it out among the people who need help. ",
"There was plenty wrong with her campaign, but she was still clearly the better choice of the two options, even though she wasn't anywhere near my first choice.",
"...except that it isn't half. \nTrump's base currently comprises less than a third of the electorate.\n\nStill a shockingly high number given how transparently incompetent and corrupt the man is, but no where near \"half\".\n",
"What specifically about immigration and why?\n\n(Or pick any of the other ones.)\n\n>Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.\n\nYes, but an opinion that the Earth is flat would be a stupid opinion from a stupid person. Or in rare cases a stupid opinion from an ignorant person - but I assume you have access to schools, libraries and the internet.",
"They will only be voting GOP if the GOP platform drops all their social conservatism. ",
"Oh yea, whoops, that totally makes it okay.",
"True.. however more backwards thinking is found amongst Republicans. Democrats are more progressive (forward thinking, embracing change). while Republicans are more conservative (upholding traditional values, resisting change). Liberals as a whole are more highly educated as well.\n\nLiberals tend to live in metro areas where they come in contact with a very diverse population with different races, religions, cultures etc. They see that people are people and that racist views are antiquated.\n\nConservatives tend to live homogeneous rural areas with less contact with people of different backgrounds. As a result of right-wing media brainwashing people to blame Mexicans and other minorities for our country’s problems, it’s easy for them to “otherize” those groups of people and develop racist views.",
"https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/dec/21/uber-cancels-self-driving-car-trial-san-francisco-california\n\n“California has forced Uber to remove its self-driving vehicles from the road, canceling the company’s controversial pilot program in San Francisco after a week of embarrassing reports of traffic violations.” \n\nI’m sure Cali is ready for self driving 18 wheelers carrying food necessary for survival though! ",
"Didn’t realize this site allowed only one account per user. ",
"I'd say incorrect, since now you're getting nothing substantial done *and* you look damn stupid having to defend the moron in chief every day. ",
"And also oil rigs on all our coasts, decreases in worker protection regulations, and mentally ill people getting access to guns.",
"Nope, because you have to be a fucking idiot to still support that one. At this point, there is no point in sugar coating it. I thought you liked it when people \"tell it like it is\" and \"say what everyone is thinking.\" This is the America you wanted, so inspired by the words and tone of our great president: Suck it, loser. Don't feel bad, it's not your fault you're an idiot.",
"Winners. Trump is killing certain destructive factions in the GOP and will give Dems 8 years of control to rework his EO's. His congress isn't getting shit done, he is utterly incompetent.",
"Listen dude, we could go on and on with this and I really don't think its worth it. Can we just agree to disagree?",
"I'd argue it does make you stupid but even if you were correct, my comment didn't say anything about it being human caused. My comment said you were stupid if you believe it is a Chinese hoax. Which I stand by.",
"STFU dude.",
"Yes, Democrats/liberals are smarter by far. ",
"No one said you were. Are you saying you can't support someone from a different country?",
"How so? You don't get to that level of power without knowing what you're doing ",
"I really think that was op's point. ",
"NIMBY - got it! Tell you what, when I am forced to buy insurance I'll care about what you have to buy too!",
"Sorry, but that’s just a straight opinion. Plus, you’re not considering policy’s, part loyalty, etc. if you think trump won cause the average American is “stupid” you’re wrong. The average American isn’t stupid basically by definition ",
"If he's making this shit up or not you just seem like the idiot for telling him people didn't say this.",
"Touché ",
"Well if you came to that conclusion based on my nationality(or race) then, yes?",
"\"Obama in pop culture\" what the fuck does that even mean.\nYou could say exactly the same thing about trump supporters, since most of them seem to be drugged by his click-batey rhetoric rather than by his political abilities. ",
"“They,” gave $100 million? It’s entirely taxpayer funded. WE gave $100 million. The EPA bureaucrats sat on their ass, were unable to prevent it, helped cover it up, and had no actionable plan ready. The smog issue we’re now parsing words. Point is we’ve thrown hundreds of billions into that useless organization and they’ve done nothing of significance as it relates to protecting America’s environment.",
"Nope, just rode on the fame of Billy boy husband of hers with the campaign paid by the corrupt Clinton's foundation, probably bought some votes with George Soros money too.. But enough about her, she lost and will forever be remembered as such, corrupt old bag of a loser..",
"Shouldn't that be called \"polipics?\" ",
"Tesla has the trucks, not Uber. Good try though!\n\nAlso, this company already doing it: https://www.wired.com/story/embark-self-driving-truck-deliveries/",
"This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. What does that have to do with the economy?",
"Nope, i'm not an idiot, and I never said that I liked Trump. Personally I think he's a bad person but I agree with many of his policies and I disagree with many of Hillary's. So you kind of missed my point in the original comment.",
"No, employment is high. It's just wages that are super low. In fact more [Americans have two jobs than anytime in history.](http://www.businessinsider.com/more-americans-working-more-than-one-job-to-make-ends-meet-2017-8)",
"It's odd, because in interviews, Clinton is just totally different, but on a Podium, sheeesh; it's bad.",
"There's a difference between supporting parts of Trump's agenda and supporting Trump.",
"everything that doesn’t fit my narrative is fake news",
"No.\n\nBecause it seems like you have formed opinions without first engaging in research and critical thinking. This is evidenced by the fact that you can say \"Immigration\" but are reluctant to talk regarding \"What *about* immigration?\"\n\nThat is a terrible thing to do.\n\nThis is one of the root causes of political tribalism and the current partisanship in the US government.\n\nIt is also THE root cause of religious fundamentalism. (But that never hurt anybody, right?)\n\nMy advice would be to not get invested in your opinions until you have reason to invest in them.\n\nYou'll become a better learner, earn a better salary when you get a job, and actually vote in what you have *evidence* is truth rather than what you *believe in your heart* is truth.\n\n",
"This times 1000!",
"So Uber (Ford) can’t get compact cars to be sufficient but Tesla has 18 wheelers ready to go? Please contact me when those go live. Hint: they never will.",
"\"Federal budget isn't the economy\" Your exact words, I'm sorry for assuming your stance on the second part. my original statement still stands if you believe that trump's had a positive effect on the American economy but you don't think that the federal budget effects the economy you've contradicted yourself. ",
"I am being realistic. If we're worried about terrorists and terrorist sympathizers, the biggest bang for your buck is starting with people born in the US. \n\nYear after year white supremacists born in the US cause the most deaths, and enroll the most domestic supporters. Even focusing on Islamic-based terrorist groups, all of these groups are already recruiting sympathizers born in the US via the internet.\n\nReducing immigration from Haiti, El Salvador, and Honduras, in addition to whatever African countries he was referring to means negatively impacting millions of honest migrants that will help our country, in an attempt to stop a problem that has cropped up with a dozenish of them. How does that make sense?\n\nAgain, lottery isn't the primary means of accepting immigrants, it's just a catch-all for people who don't qualify for our existing merit-based, and family-based programs. So what exactly is being proposed to replace it?\n\nEdit, a comma\n\nEdit2: clarified \"local\" supporters",
"Piss off.",
"First off, I started with “I hate trump” because I wanted to clarify that just because I agree with the sentiment doesn’t mean I agree with the inclusion of political posts on this subreddit. However, I concede that “hate” is a strong word and “I disagree with trumps behavior” would be better. \n\nIf I’m being honest, I’m very confused by your second point that I’m a tool used to regurgitate the latest opinion from popular media pundits. Do you mean that I’m just repeating what I hear from the media when I said “I hate trump”? Because if you believe that trump receives a disproportionate amount of criticism from the media then I would agree with you. \n\nThird, I don’t see the connection between not wanting to see political posts on this subreddit and saying “I hate trump” on a *political post* increasing the amount of political posts on this subreddit. \n\nCould you explain? I’m sure we could find some common ground. ",
"Basically democrats, aptly named Dumbocrats, can't argue points anymore and have to resort to that.",
"Yes, Tesla has shown be complete failures and have delivered on zero promises.\n\n\nLMAO - they are already running from Texas to California using automated trucks. Tesla just wants to do it with solar power charging stations instead of oil.",
"That’s the way it is in most of the world. The majority of the popular vote determines elected leaders.\n\n",
"All I heard was crying, sorry snowflake...welcome to the real world.",
"Sports and video games are both interests of mine. Thanks for asking.",
">Where is Clinton now? She's back under multiple investigations, and hopefully these will be done more appropriately than the ones in the past.\n\nNah. She published a book and is probably at home doing whatever she is doing. I sometimes read the occasional \"Senator XYZ opening Hillary investigation\" thing, but it's mostly just fluff with zero contacts, zero arrests, zero warrants. I try to search these investigation up online with google. No corroborative action. No contact with police, or anything. Hell, they don't even bother try to contact Hillary herself for a statement.\n\nAs someone with basic observation skills and who regularly browse reddit, other than the occasional tweet or two, she obviously is intentionally staying out of politics for a while. Most of the posts about her are just people talking ABOUT her, not what she is saying or doing. \n\nThe only reason you hear about her so much is because Trump still talks about her. The only reason why she is relevant right now is because of someone who hates her. I find that ironic.",
"I’m not going into detail because I don’t want to waste my time writing essays in stupid Reddit debates like you are. I’m sorry but the truth is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I have mine and you have yours, so go away.",
"Awesome man, what kind of games do you like? Are you PCMR or console? ",
"Imagine that, large groups of stupid people voted both Republican AND Democrat!",
"Calling me a trump supporter implied I had in some way supported trump. Considering all I have done is called you out for generalising a huge swath of people as racist and fascists I figured you must be accusing me of voting for him. \n\nUnless you think calling out people for making idiotic blanket generalisations makes you in someway a supporter of your president... which you probably do think considering you also think everyone you disagree with is a racist and that low immigration caused the depression. ",
"And OP just doubled it.",
"have you seen the polling on how many Americans think Noah's Ark is a real story?\n\nThe average American seems pretty dumb to me.",
"Even by the count of SPLC, who would love to make a big deal out of white supremacy, there are 5,000 white supremacists in the US. Thankfully Somalia is on the travel ban, but we ought not to accept immigrants from places like that. Wahabiism is prevalent in many African nations and they (Wahabiists, not necessarily Africans) have shown a penchant to come here and murder us for kicks. 9/11 alone killed more than any white supremacist group has in the last 17 years combined. By a lot.",
"This is a re-post and yet you idiots just like it anyway.. ive seen this countless times and people keep drinking it in and making it to the top of the feed. Something ORIGNAL please. ",
"as someone who was a moron and thought trump deserved a fair chance despite his well known TV personality, I would also implore you to read about the voting history of the current republican party in regards to consumer protections and rights. Things that stop corporations from fucking regular people over. \n\nI'm a person who enjoys reading about everything and i love playing the devils advocate in debates and in my humble opinion, there is absolutely nothing redeeming about our current republican party. I say that as a person who firmly believes in state rights, gun rights and many of what was traditional republican stances and counts many lifelong republicans as close friends. The republican party is not for moderate republicans or independents anymore.",
"This was so amazing for reddit, keep it up.",
">I’m not going into detail because I don’t want to waste my time\n\nSo you know everything there is to know at the ripe old age of \"not old enough to vote in 2016\" and there is no knowledge or perspective to be gained from me?\n\nWhy do you think that?\n\n>the truth is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion\n\nYou are parroting something you have heard before. Do you think all opinions are equally valid? Flat Earth?\n\n>I have mine and you have yours, so go away.\n\nDo you know what \"tribalism\" means?",
"[Headshot!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olm7xC-gBMY) ",
"Then they wouldn’t be “average”. That means mid range. Not “stupid”. ",
"This really does not speak to the point OP clearly hopes it will. The stupidity of the masses implicated in this scene would have to entail liberals and left-leaning Crooked Hilary voters right? Since the claim from the left is that she won the “popular” vote?\n\nMany mental gymnastics inherent to this kind of dumb ass post. ",
"I find this so ironic. This is the same logic people use as to why progress pics (losing weight, gaining muscles, getting clean) shouldn't be allowed on here. But they're pics and this post is of a pic, it's posted under the right category.",
"I'm pretty sure it's his foundation too.",
"Til dual citizenship doesn't exist. \n\nEdit: And look at that. The coward isn't even trying to show off their sociopathic fetishes anymore. \n\nDid I hit too close to home?",
"Hahaa so funny cuck btw",
"Missed a golden opportunity to call it \"Polipics\"",
"There are a lot of concern trolls during peak US Reddit hours. The \"not a Trump supporter, but (is Trump really that bad/other politicians are worse/too much Trump spam that I need to comment)\".\n\nPretty similar to the tactics that cropped up during the election. ",
"you clearly are not understanding the issue at hand, I'd suggest you try opening a history book and maybe you'll figure out why people are slightly concerned.",
"https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/08/10/tesla-semi-truck/555266001/\n\n“Tesla has long planned to reveal an electric semi-truck at an event in late September with production launching within two years.”\n\nAugust 2017 report that Tesla hoping to launch production within two years. Do tell me again how they are, “already running from Texas to California,” though. Oh, speaking of which, self-driving cars are not allowed on California roads, even for testing. Sweet lie lmao\n\n“But Gonzalez said in an email that \"no one can test 'autonomous' trucks in California at this time.\"",
"Who are you? I didn't reply to you.\n\nAlso, I'm saying the exact same thing you're saying.\n\nGod, people are weird af on reddit sometimes...",
"The tag is probably California.",
"I'm the parent comment of the comment you replied to lol. By extension.",
"If you go through life calling everyone who disagrees with you on subjects *we don't know (and may never know) the answer to* an idiot, you will live a very shallow existence and die angry.",
"are you actually okay with being a self absorbed asshole? real question.",
"Here is proof that people can actually have rational discussions. Have a good night. ",
"“Boom.” Hahahahaha ",
"Talk about target rich environment.....",
"Didn't a Democrat just win a senate seat in Alabama? ",
"Nope, I didn't even upvote this post. Just funny how people complain about politics being everywhere when it's something important that affects everyone to an extreme degree, moreso than most any other time in most redditor's lives",
"I think to get out of a bandwagon you have to ask the driver kindly and then sort of exit respectfully. Breaking it just to leave would be unnecessary and rude.",
"*Sorts by controversial* \n\nWish me luck!",
"trump is a cunt and so are people like you. You communist apologists are just as fucking bad as the nazis.\n\nI hope the nazis and commies like you get together and kill each other off once and for all for the good of humanity.",
"Console",
"You're the parent of the parent of the comment I replied to. It's Friday night, mate...",
"https://www.wired.com/story/embark-self-driving-truck-deliveries/\n\nKeep trying though! I love the effort!",
">rubbish rubbish rubbish blah blah blah\n\nNah m8. When Trump sends signals to the market that he can save publicly traded companies even something as marginal as 1% from tax breaks that amounts to billions of real dollars and the market responds. Has fuck all to do with the federal budget. \n\nYour point is legitimately really really stupid. ",
"The person in charge at the EPA, now resigned, was notified of lead levels. They did not have legal recourse to intervene. They increased request for action. Local govt did nothing. Water issues reached crisis level and the EPA intervened. \n\nThe smog issue isn't parsing words. Smog has decreased since the 70's. That's from your own article. Is it still bad. Yes, and during drought and fire it spiked. \n\nYou have an issue with government. That's fine. But what you're using as evidence is demonstrably false or your opinion at minimum. Could more be done? Yes. But what would they have to achieve for it to be worth it to you? \n",
"Young people aren't the ones who are most likely to deny evolution or climate change. ",
"I dunno. Other people say I seemed amused. I think calling me triggered is just the best comeback you've got. Pathetic but not unexpected. ",
"And yet here we are :O",
"Look at that everyone, the republican cry baby is projecting and calling liberals cry babies when republicans are the ones who spend all the time crying.",
"The issue here is that you automatically take everything to a racial level. Not every decision and comment has some underlying racist motivation. Norway is first on the HDI scale, Haiti is 163/186.",
"Yet you still think the president is in bed with Russia even though there has been no actual proof. You are a special kind of stupid.",
"That seems pretty hypocritical considering a lot of republicans voiced their distaste for political correctness.",
"Just saying, the last time your political system was dismantled, you guys had a civil war. \n\nAlso not saying those voters who thought Roy Moore lost their \"anyone but a Democrat\" vote, and voted for a third write-in Republican got Doug Jones elected into Alabama senate, but in total Republicans got more votes in Alabama. But hey, \"anyone but Trump\" right?",
"So what will you be left with? Hillary's robotic dumbass giving Goldman Sachs big old sloppy blowjobs while pretending to fight for you? You deserve everything you get if that's actually the future- I'll have died trying to actually make things better.",
"I am sorry, calling Republicans “very fine people” isn’t going to work here.",
"I'm responding to pings. You're actively looking for comments. Not sure how it's possible you don't see the difference :/\n\nMore likely that you *do* see the difference and are choosing to ignore it. Dat cognitive dissonance.",
"You can thank Obama for the good economy, unless you can point to specific Trump policies with economic studies that say they're responsible. That said, Trump has been responsible for an inestimable loss of American soft power in less than a year in power, it's something we may never recover from. ",
"Welp you can't be that smart if you still support the lunatic after all the shit he's caused.",
"Incidentally, in general I don't. I kinda prefer people who aspire to being more than spiteful and spineless disengenious pricks. \n\nSo sue me. \n\nStill want to find out why the fuck you're so proud of showing off your little sociopathic fetishes, though. \n\nYou can't get rid of me quite that easily. So yeah, why are you so fucking obsessed with spite?\n\nWhy are you so fucking proud of it?\n\nHate your face so your nose has to go?",
"Aww is the snowflake upset?",
"I'm curious, what do you define as liberal? Like what values in specific?",
"Aww is the little snowflake upset?",
"Cool man. I got a PS4 but I always end up back on my computer and on Steam. Though I did just find out that the PS4 controller is supported on Big Picture so I went a little nuts going back through all the console ports I owned. State of Decay played surprisingly well. I'm stoked for Dark Souls. Next time it's on sale! Fuck yeah. ",
"Well I mean we could be in a different time zone, too. And also I posted that over an hour (two? I'm on mobile) ago.",
"My college and early career years I was a die hard liberal to no surprise since I was educated at a very liberal school and taught by liberal professors. \n\nAs I see more of the world and have several years under my belt, I lean more conservative. I also have a greater appreciation for the U.S. and how it came to be, all it took was spending time working in places like China and Sudan. \n\nIt is argumentative to assume republicans have \"ruled\" anything and are responsible for economic collapses. That's no different than saying most major cities like Detroit are poverty stricken now because they haven't had a republican mayor in several decades.\n\n Most professors are liberal, probably because they are still in college. You shouldn't ever let your schooling get in the way of your education.\n\n\n",
"There are plenty of never-Trump Republicans whose political views differ from mine, but they were smart enough not to support a completely inexperienced, bigoted, con artist with mob ties. ",
"Damn I hope this takes off, count me a sub. ",
"Silicon Valley is already picking up and moving to more tax friendly states like Texas. Don’t discount the some 5 million Conservatives in California, either. While many blue states harbor cash cows like NYC and LA, the overall success of the state sure as hell isn’t due to leftist policies. ",
"Why don't we just give the guy the benefit of the doubt, call it r/Trumpgret, and call it a day?",
"The Russians hacked the DNC, which was a major issue for the Democrats. I'm not saying the stuff wasn't important information or made up, but without that scandal coming to light, the election could probably have swayed to Hilary, especially considering she won the popular vote, so she only needs a few more votes to win. Russians also spread lots of misinformation about the election and Trump throughout his campaign as well.",
"Oh how ironic that you conserviturds were the exact same way with Obama. At one point you even lost you shit because his suit didn't match. Go cry in a corner.",
"Timing aside, super nonstandard thing to do and a bit obsessive, no?",
"Actually, extremely low voter turnout was the most direct cause to his election. He had *fewer* votes than Mitt Romney who lost bigly.",
"Chemicals already are dumped into rivers. How about this, show me some reasons why the EPA is deserving of the hundreds of billions we’ve given it. Surely they’ve prevented a few disasters or lead to charge on a meaningful scientific breakthrough. Seriously, give me anything.",
"It takes time for the effects of a president to happen. Currently, America isn't in a bad way aside from the increased racial tensions, decreased influence in the world, a shrinking middle class and a rapidly expanding poverty population. We still have Flint Michigan without drinkable water, Puerto Rico still is without food, electricity, or full aid that any other statehood would get. We still have a corruption problem and our elections are still being swayed by russian influence. We've gone backwards on climate change, and are the only developed nation to do so. We've got increased tensions with most our allies, especially the UK, Mexico, and the Philippines. We're not totally removed from the possibility of nuclear war with North Korea. The education of the nation is being severely cut, as well as children's health coverage being cut in order to beef up military spending. The national debt continues to grow at exponential rates, and tax dollars are being used more than ever before in history so our President can go golf every 4 days. Our media networks reputations have been tarnished, as our President continues to call them \"fake news\" on a daily basis, while pushing Fox news as the only reputable news source, when it's well established that fox news is the most propaganda-prone news source we have. And if I haven't mentioned it already there is an ever-present increasing tension along racial lines, particularly between white people and black/mexican/non-white people in the country which has already resulted in several deaths. \n\nBut aside from those things, we're doing great. Honestly, currently things aren't that bad on a day-to-day basis.. but all of these things, each one of them, has the potential to ruin much of the progress that we as a country have worked to hard to make. The added stress of knowing we're very potentially on the brink of another dark time in US history is scary, and it weighs heavy on people's minds. Things aren't that bad.. but everyday folks wake up wondering if this is the day where shit hits the fan.",
"Forgetting a state?\n\nEdit: Since I was apparently too subtle, you said that those were the 4 most populous states, but you forgot Texas at #2 ... \n\nAnd I think Pennsylvania is #6",
"Maybe not stupid, lacking a moral compass is probably more apt.",
"What has he caused?? The US is in great shape?",
"How about....anything? Can you show me hundreds of billions of dollars worth of production? Surely the drop in smog can be credited to the EPA? Perhaps some meaningful scientific breakthrough? Show me something worth a hundred billion dollars.",
"I'm glad your more articulate than I am because that's exactly what I was trying to say",
"and yet it has 18 million subs",
"I could've said one state and it would still apply. So no.",
"Do you live under a rock? The US is a laughing stock to the rest of the world due to his insane antics on twitter and how he can't even pretend to act presidential for more than a day.",
"You’re heavily misinformed, I think you should stop, not me lol",
"“A human driver rides in the cab to monitor the computer chauffeur”\n\nDo you know what autonomous means? Wish I could return the sarcastic, “good effort,” jab but I can’t bring myself to be that disingenuous. Also, those aren’t Teslas. Do you fact check anything you say? Rhetorical question.",
">If you go through life calling everyone who disagrees with you on subjects we don't know (and may never know) the answer to an idiot, you will live a very shallow existence and die angry.\n\nGood thing climate change and AGW have lots of good scientific data backing them up. We do know. It's actually trivial to prove it should happen. Shell and Exxon knew about it in the 70's and 80's. They had fucking presentations from their own scientists on it.\n\nI don't call everyone who disagrees with me an idiot, but I do to people that pontificate about things they don't know shit about.\n\nAs for economics... Let's look at Kansas (recently) Or the Great Depression (not so recently) for textbook examples of trickledown gone wild.",
"Yet, everyone is still waiting on the proof.",
"So youre saying the EPA has done nothing? Im jusy trying to clarify ",
"Inb4 thread is locked",
"every time trump does something wrong, you trump cultists come in and say \"BUT HILLARY!!!!!\"\n\nwho gives a flying fuck about hillary. It's 2017, I didnt vote for her because i hate the bitch. She's a lying corporate snake just like everyone else in washington. Hillary has 0 (zero, none, nada) effect in our current government.\n\nNow that I got your stupid fucking \"whataboutism\" out of the way let me ask you this. Why are you defending trump? \n\nI'm asking this as a person who did support him during the primaries and wanted to give him a fair chance. I browsed T_D daily, argued with my family about supporting trump, the whole nine yards. But you know what I didnt stop doing after the election was over? holding the person i voted for to represent me accountable.\n\n Why are you not holding him accountable for his actions? Stop rooting for \"your\" team and start holding them accountable. They work for us, not the other way around.",
"Poo poo per pee kaka",
"Human driver is there to test them - thats what companies do before they roll out a product. They are coming. You are not stopping them. \n\nLike I said, good luck with all that corn!",
"It's not argumentative, it's a fact. Each of the 4 largest economic collapses in the last 100 years have all been preceded by a Republican controlled government. It's not a comfortable fact if you're a republican, but that doesn't make it not a fact. \n\nAnd yeah as people age most get more conservative, and I think it has more to do with \"i earned this, why should I have to give it up\" than anything else.. which is a totally fair way to regard the attainment of wealth. \n\nBut most educated people stay liberal because they believe in the fair treatment of all people and want everyone to have a fair life. Overly general, but that's the gist based on what I've studied. \n\nI've stayed liberal because I believe that the more fortunate among us have a moral imperative to help the less fortunate. Most people can live fairly comfortably on $30,000/year in most places in the US (top 10 most populous cities notwithstanding), so if I'm making $300,000 avg/year as a doctor, I see no problem with paying a 50% tax rate to support those who need the money more than me. I think it falls on us to support those who can't support themselves. \n\nBut that's just one aspect of politics, but it's the one that makes me lean liberal more than conservative. ",
"That’s some confirmation bias if I ever see one. \n\nSo a simple, 1-day market reaction is enough to tell you that Trump is a good president? The stock market =/= economy. \n\nIf you are a trader, which I assume that you are not, you would understand that the S&P 500 comprises of *only* 500 large-cap companies. Dow Jones only 30.",
"Virtually, yes. They’ve earned a tiny fraction of what we’ve given them. I’m prepared to eat my words if you can show me hundreds of billions in production. Keep in mind they’ve been a huge detriment to the economy both by sucking cash out and enforcing regulations that are detrimental to entire industries.",
"I don't like Trump, but I've grown so tired of hearing people bringing him up at every opportunity.\n\nGODDAMNIT! I'm so sick of hearing about cotton candy hair.",
"I mean yeah but I'm obsessive 😂",
">Who are you to say what decency is? What makes your opinion more valid than someone else's? \n\nBlah blah blah.\n\nPretending not to believe in standards (or pretending not to know where they come from) doesn't make them go away. Quit playing dumb, nobody's buying it.",
"Maybe you care about the popularity game, I care about actual tangable benefits. Other people's opinions matter literally nothing compared to the fact that the US is the number one country in the world. Could you imagine if a communist regime had the same power? Get over yourself and realise that the \"image\" of something is not nearly as important as the actual truth.",
"I do truly like _some_ of his decisions, but I didn't vote for him. I'm more against the guy than I am for him. I only made this comment to see for myself whether or not Reddit is able to dissect opinion from character.\n\n65 downvotes (and rising!) shows that, to no surprise, people here don't like differing opinions.",
" How is he doing that ? What you've described isn't actually governing. I'm pretty sure there are dozens of reasons why it wouldn't be ethical. It also isn't sustainable or stable. Also I'm not American but isn't tax breaks and other changes to the tax code part of the Federal budget? Or something that you consider when a budget is made? You can't make a budget without having a rough estimate of your income and your expenses. ",
"In fairness, I don't think Presidents have a whole lot of control over the economy. They can influence business to some extent by pushing policy and setting agenda but I wouldn't give a president much fault or credit for the general state of the economy. ",
"Umm, you claimed Tesla had AUTONOMOUS trucks already on the road. Not only is Tesla 2 years away from even producing an autonomous truck, the article you provided proved that no autonomous truck is delivering anything. Good luck with the robot trucks, whenever they come, if they come.",
"what happened to peepee gate? its been over a year, whats going on? ya'll supposed to have tyhis all wrapped up, trumpus maximus in cuffs hauled away to court? what happened? oh thats rights, no evidence of collusion so far lol. im going to lmfao when ya'll realize that fake dossier was nothing more than a piece to allow for domestic surveillance of trumps campaign. the other possible twist is the BO administration got all three requests denied and requested/allowed for GCHQ to do the intelligence gathering on trump and team anyways. cause you know.. trump had no chance to win and was never supposed to be in office, so whats the risk lol",
" Nothing you are writing makes even a little sense. A chatbot may as well have written this. ",
"I don't think that's anyones legit opinion. It's just a joke. ",
"Or maybe the people that elected Trump are tired of people like you talking down to them. Just a thought.",
"In this instance I mean it as a liberal Democrat. People who are aligned with the Democratic Party. ",
"Do you have the evidence? I've been looking.",
"only 8% of his campaign funds were raised by \"large individual contributions\" so him trying to pass legislation for that little money is pretty retarded. Also you dont think he already ahs a huge cushion of money after he retires?\n\nEverything you said is just what every politician does...",
"> so if I'm making $300,000 avg/year as a doctor, I see no problem with paying a 50% tax rate \n\nGoes to school for 12 years\n\nHas hundreds of thousands in student loans due\n\n\"Lol, take half my paycheck, communism is fun, wheeeeeeeeeeee!\"",
"Settle down little triggered one. Reee your way into [Obama in pop culture](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/president-obama-12-his-memorable-pop-culture-moments-961226/item/obama-pop-culture-moments-challenging-mythbusters-961230)",
"Lmao you wish. More like 80% retarded, 20% brain dead.",
"Winning second place is okay.",
"So you think you're smarter than half of the electorate and you've never met almost any of them? Coming to conclusions in absence of evidence isn't the strongest indicator of intelligence.\n\nI'm no fan of Trump (I didn't vote for him) but the whole high-horse moral outrage thing is a pretty ugly look. \n\nThe left didn't like it when the religious right was getting all offended and sanctimonious and it's no better from the other side of the aisle. \n\nCriticize Trump for what he says and does (this should be easy) and let the arguments speak for themselves. If you have to judge people you haven't met just for disagreeing with you then you have more in common with Trump than you'd like to believe. ",
"I’ve heard alot of his words. They’re really great words, the best words. Everybody’s talking about how great his words are and how they come from his really good brain. And that’s why we need a wall. ",
"No, you claimed there were none at all, it was illegal and that Tesla would fail to deliver autonomous trucks.\n\nI laughed at the notion Tesla would fail. Then I commented that automated trucks were already on the road. Drivers are there as a failsafe and to monitor things while they perfect the technology. You thought we would just program some shit and send it on its merry way? These companies don't run themselves like the Trump administration, lol.",
"I'm just saying what I saw on election night. Aside from that we have had roughly 250 up days in the market. It's a buy the dip market that is not adequately respecting technicals. Sure it might be overdue for a pullback but it's hard to tell when it's not losing any significant levels.",
">you trump cultists\n\ndafuq\n\n>She's a lying corporate snake just like everyone else in washington\n\nyes I extremely fuck with this\n\n>Why are you defending trump?\n\nಠ_ಠ\n\n...\n\nSo I'm confused. You don't like Trump (anymore?), you correctly see the Dems are lying shitbags... what's left? Go the opposite direction from the white nationalist pieces of shit to the right of the Clintons, and I'll meet you at glorious, progressive Socialism. You have lots of choices! You can go Democratic Socialist, which is what the Democrats are *supposed* to be, you can go further left and end up somewhere truly revolutionary, the sky is the limit!\n\nI don't support Trump, I never have and I never will. He's a sassy showman, his administration is fucking evil and I will never forgive the democrats for letting them loose on the American people.",
"You're getting downvoted but you're stating facts. Reddit is full of libs",
"You mean the momentum from Obama's policies and soon to come to a dead stop with Trump's? You Americans really are stupid. You all can't even comprehend basic economics.\n\nOh and don't forget that Putin is 8 inches deep into Trump's rectum.",
"Oh, those poor babies! Are the big, mean lefties talking down to them? Sounds like an emergency, let's call the waambulance. That completely justifies their voting an idiot conman into the presidency. ",
">The best statistical analysis in the world gave her an over 70% chance.\n\nThe most biased statistical analysis in the world gave her an over 70% chance. \n\nFTFY",
"To clarify, it's not that they have liberal views, but it's that they are aligned with the Democratic Party that you think that people have a problem with? At least that's the idea I'm getting from this post.\n\nAlso, what in your opinion do you think a person who identify as liberal and aligns with the Democrats value? Why do you think those values could be \"bad\"?\n\n(I'm Canadian)",
"But I mean....they are.",
"Loans get paid over time, and I’m lucky in that I’m not going to have to take the full load of the debt. Regardless, $300,000 is far more than what it takes to live on. And on that payscale it doesn’t take long to repay a significant debt. Why stash hundreds on thousands of dollars, or millions, when it could be saving people’s lives who can’t afford medical care?",
"“Yes, Tesla has shown be complete failures and have delivered on zero promises.\n\n\nLMAO - they are already running from Texas to California using automated trucks. Tesla just wants to do it with solar power charging stations instead of oil.”\n\nI was right—Tesla is two years away from, “hopefully,” producing autonomous trucks. And it is illegal to operate autonomous vehicles in California and most other places. Hence why you look so stupid claiming autonomous trucks are making deliveries when the article you cited states clear as day that there’s a human in the cab. By definition, the vehicle is not autonomous. Anyhow, embrace the misery of the next seven years!",
"How long do you think it's been?",
"Which they’re starting to do TBH. Meanwhile the left is going so hard in the opposite direction it’s alienating a lot of their base. ",
">The most biased statistical analysis in the world gave her an over 70% chance.\n\nWhich one and why is it the most biased in the world?\n\nIs this the same one that got the 2012 election correct down to every state? The same one that showed that swing states were significantly correlated in the 2016 election and so if one of them swung, all of them were likely to?\n\nWait...if I roll a fair six-sided die, what are the odds that the result will be any of 1, 2, or 3?",
"\"An idiot conman\". This is why the left loses elections. They don't know how to debate. They just throw childish insults around. Why don't you try bringing facts to the table instead of insults? Your entire comment is nothing but an insult. You don't persuade people by insulting them. ",
"Again, stock market =/= economy. While they are similar, they are not *directly* correlated. As an example, some stocks will still go up despite forecasts of high unemployment rates in the economy. Also, your mini analytical response is completely irrelevant to trump and politics. \n\nThough I see where your argument is going. Please do not believe that because our stock indexes are doing well, that means that Trump is a good president. That’s literally the definition and perfect example of confirmation bias. If anything, Trump should be glad that Obama set the policies in motion during his years to give us this low unemployment rate and good/stable economy.\n\nThis is coming from a day-trader of both Stocks and Options. ",
"> When did I say can't?\n\nYou didn't, I was framing a scenario.\n\n>And your catch 22 isn't a catch 22...\n\n>After highschool get a steady job.\n\nThere are steady jobs for people without formal college educations? This reminds me of the [draw an owl](https://s3.amazonaws.com/marquee-test-akiaisur2rgicbmpehea/R7x3FamR2K1LHtgwZURc_Screen%20Shot%202015-11-17%20at%204.01.11%20PM.png) meme. I don't know anyone who's been employed at the same company for more than three years. Most I know have been working at their current job for around 6 months to a year. I've been at mine for two months. Six at my last, two years at the one before that. All laid off or random accidents caused my unemployment, nothing related to job performance or misconduct.\n\nEven with a steady job, the work ethic in America currently has a lot of employees working late shifts, forced overtime and pulling 50-60 hour weeks if not more in even more demanding fields. I install fireplaces and I'm at work sometimes 12 hours a day. I have time to come home, eat something shitty, organize my shit for the next day and go to bed. I barely have enough for any apartment on my own in my city, much less the time. 40 hours with zero or minimal overtime might be doable. Part time would be a complete joke.\n\n>Live at home or cheapest housing you can find\n\nA lot of people's parents are as bad off as they are, if they aren't dead or dead beats. As far as cheap housing goes, you might as well invest in a good gun, possibly a taser and some pepper spray and make sure the door on your apartment has at least one deadbolt and no sliding glass on the backside.\n\nHave you ever been in the situation you're giving advice for?",
"Less pollution means less death and medical issues related to pollution. So... There's that. As for scientific breakthroughs I'd say more efficient electronics, vehicles, and factories is pretty neat. Is it all worth it? We would have to go through the EPA history, put a value to the health issues that were prevented, put a value to the fuel saved, value the reduction in oil dependency, value to the previously mentioned benefits and adjust them over time as long as they continue to be beneficial, and then compare to actual money spent after the profits are removed from the costs.\n\nYou're not gonna do that. Im not gonna do that. So I'll continue to believe the investment into protecting our environment is worth it. And you'll continue doing you.",
"There's a special kind of person that loves to wear t-shirts or have bumper stickers or whatever that is always a statement against stupid people. It's like they haven't figured out that literally everyone is annoyed by stupidity and they think they're a cut above the rest by hating it.",
"can you imagine",
"It really isn't.\n\nWe have a president with a very low level of restraint about what he says and an opposition party that's super-sensitive to anything politically incorrect. What we have is a moral panic, nothing more. \n\nThere's very little actually out-of-the-ordinary going on here. Trump has passed one major piece of legislation and not much else; if you don't pay attention to Twitter he's been pretty unremarkable.\n\nPeople just keep feeding the troll by taking everything Trump says super seriously. The dude runs his mouth constantly, 90% of it is bullshit, but everyone still acts surprised when he says something untoward.\n\nJust ignore it, it'll go away in a few years. ",
">they are already running from Texas to California using automated trucks. Tesla just wants to do it with solar power charging stations instead of oil.\n\nThey = company doing it (obviously)\n\nTesla = company not doing it, but wanting to do it without oil (the company currently using automated trucks run on gas).\n\nNot that hard...\n\n>By definition, the vehicle is not autonomous.\n\nHuman has a clipboard and is taking notes and is not in control of the truck. Sounds autonomous to me, but you are used to Trump's style of just saying shit is happening and washing your hands of the matter so you can be in bed to watch Fox by 6pm. Understandable.\n\nTrump can't get shit done with a GOP congress, you think he will do anything other than tweet with a big mac in his mouth with a Dem Congress?\n",
"Only short breaks allowed",
"In practice, poor people are more likely to use government programs to make ends meet. Rich people are more likely to want small taxes and less spent on these services. When the govt cuts your food stamps and you start missing rent because of it, it definitely feels like your money was stolen. Especially when you can see their lavish lifestyles, and yet they want more, meanwhile,you just want to not go hungry .",
"NO PERIOD AT THE END! DID EVERYONE SEE THAT? FUCKING TRUMP SUPPORTERS",
"I've edited. To reiterate, I'm saying right now the system values he vote of someone in a small, rural state much more than the vote of someone from New York or LA. Do you think they should be equal?",
"The majority of people were unaware of the things Obama did while in office and were just satisfied with the fact that he was pleasant on tv.",
"Yet mugabe gets a royal welcome",
"A day trader huh? Yeah ok.",
"\"You Americans\" you realise America is a continent... If your not a citizen you more than likely have no idea what's going on. But i guess you should be mad at President Trump I suppose because he makes us strong and fucks everyone else.",
"*Thanks Bush",
"Technically nobody knows how much money he has waiting for him after presidency seeing as he still hasn’t released his tax returns. \n\nAlso I stated that he’s attempting to raise money for the congressmen that are backing him up as well. \n\nEDIT: spelling",
"Sounds like you need to move out of the city. Find suburbs or rural area. Cheap affordable safe housing all over. Had a buddy live in a 2 bedroom apartment with 4 other guys and he was only paying 150$ a month for his portion. He put away tens of thousands of dollars and now he's a lawyer.\n\nAnd yes I was fortunate enough to live at home for about 4 years after high school to work before I paid my way through art school, now I work free lance and I'm debt free.",
"How do you get from \"changing society\" to \"racial animus\"?\n\nIs every advocacy group in the country racist? ",
"I don't think Trump would spend much money, if any at all, managing his image. I don't think you understand how Trump thinks. He doesn't actually give a shit about what anyone thinks of him, so he's not going to bother maintaining his image.\n\nEven the smallest things about him are not only posted about, they reach the front page with unusual regularity. I don't give a shit that he wasn't invited to some international party, yet for nearly a month I had to filter through dozens of posts about it. For Reddit's attention span, that's pretty impressive. It's not unreasonable to think there's an underlying reason for it. Maybe astroturfing, maybe some fuck-up with Reddit's filtering system, maybe somehow a website of millions of people can maintain a month-long hate fest. I'm not claiming it's guaranteed astroturfing, but it sure feels like it at times.\n\nYou're basically complaining about me not being anti-Trump enough. Since I don't dislike Trump enough in your view, you're calling me pro-Trump. Dial it down the extremism a bit.",
"Yet you guys still rallied behind him. Pedophile supporters.",
"> one Reddit comment\n\n",
"you act as if its the law for him to release his taxs",
"You forgot the golden prefix: \"I hate trump but ...\"",
"Jimmy going to college to become a mathematician doesn't magically make him better at politics or understanding how the world works. College is normally talked about as being a place for smart people, but I have definitely met some dumb mother fuckers here.",
"You guys can’t call people snowflakes and then proceed to tell everyone you voted for a dude because people made fun of you. Pick one",
"Or blindly getting so mad about what complete strangers have to say. Seriously. Not everyone’s opinion is valid, except miraculously everyone on this site takes everyone’s word for everything. \n\nIf you’re getting mad about what anonymous internet people say, you’re going to have a hard time. ",
"Did I call you a snowflake? ",
"Did I ever say it was Obama's doing? Please don't put words in my mouth",
"> Reddit's main demographic is young educated males\n\nDon't, please don't",
"Oh the irony of the post in Reddit. ",
"Locally they are, and those are who is winning. But gerrymandered states are hurting them nationally because moderates can't win and have no voice. The left is responding to Trump.",
"Don’t mention facts? Look at the traffic info for the site",
"Nah the Sam's closures were known about my guy. No point in keeping large open to public bulk warehouses open when you can just order online and we don't have to keep the Sam's floating. Some are leaving their positions, some are being moved into other positions. ",
"The right has been actively calling people snowflakes for the past few years now, and use your argument.",
"I’m not acting as if it’s the law, I’m simply stating we can’t determine how much money he has currently because there hasn’t been a federal form stating it. We all know you can’t trust anything he says so the source we’ll need for a sure say is an IRS form.",
"Or maybe constantly bashing trump and right wingers in media and social media makes swing voters move to the right",
"I was asking legitimately. My bad, reddit. ",
"> There's very little actually out-of-the-ordinary going on here\n\nuh, no, what's going on is very far from ordinary",
"If I put in 12 years to achieve passing med school, and becoming a doctor, I would want to enjoy the fruits of my labor, and not have to use my hard work to supply for \"those that need help\", and pay half of my earnings to give handouts to those that abuse the system to continue to live off section 8 housing, foodstamps, and cash handouts.\n\nYeah, alot of people that use those handouts genuinely need it during a rough patch, but what about the ones who work the system, and spend 0 effort to better themselves?\n\nIf a junkie came to your doorstep on your payday, tied a tourniquit to his arm, and asked for half your paycheck to feed his children, promising that he won't spend it on the next dose, Im sure you would write him a check. /s",
"Which part do you want evidence for, the fact that he's an idiot or the fact that he's a conman? \n\n... both?\n\n... really?",
"those downvotes tho",
"\"When Trump sends signals to the market that he can save publicly traded companies even something as marginal as 1% from tax breaks that amounts to billions of real dollars and the market responds. Has fuck all to do with the federal budget.\" -Shutup_slave\n\nWhat you've described is Trump promising changes to the Federal budget. \n\n \"Federal budget isn't the economy. you guys really think all good things come from the government don't you?\" - Shutup_slave\n\nMy point is that you keep contradicting yourself.\n",
"My apologies, I mistook you for a trump supporter, i probably confused you with someone else.\n\nYes I was a trump supporter, only because he was the one making the most noise about the need to fix our broken systems. Ultimately he ended up lying, but it didnt really surprise me. the way I saw it was, Hillary was more of the same, where our rights quietly get signed away in back rooms because democrats are way better at being corrupt and not getting caught. Trump was a gamble. I and the everyone else who voted for him is paying the price.\n\nBut I'm still happy that trump is president. People are finally getting mad at our broken systems as they rightly should be and the american public is only getting angrier, which is good for us. Trump is the wake up call our country needs. Go out and vote or more like him will come.\n\nBUT at the same time. the GOPs behaviour cannot and should not be excused. They are defending this literal madman and scrambling to jam as much things through as they can while everyone is focused on our current idiot of a president. I say this as middle of the road fellow with more republican tendencies, the GOP is by far worse than democrats could ever even hope to be. and their adoption of the evangelicals has only served to further divide and radicalize our politics.",
"Someone's gonna get laid in college.\n\nDog-whistle'ing your Marxist rhetoric might score you some points on campus but I'd encourage you to study the history of any nation that empowered a serious Marxist regime and where exactly that ended-up.",
"\n\n\nPictures of cool, amazing, and so on, things. Like scenes or enormous machines or simply cool pictures. A great many people don't come here for severely lit pictures of guard stickers. ",
"Did I say why they fall behind? There isn't one reason why they are behind, but if you think it's racism you are trying to connect dots that aren't there, if it were racism asians wouldn't be ahead of the curve.\n\n",
"What does a country's HDI score have to do with whether or not a person from that country should be allowed to live in the US? \n\nIf people from \"Shitholes\" want to move to America, it's because they want a better life for their family. President Trump seems to disagree with this time-tested value. He only wants people from Norway(whites) not from Haiti(blacks). ",
"Exactly. Both sides want to plug their ears because they think the other side is full of lunatics. But you don't see the irony here.\n\nhave a good night mate",
"He passed a tax bill that cuts corporate rates by half permanently, but didn’t cut taxes for the people. This will make the stock market go up temporarily but bankrupt the country in short order as it fucking ass-rapes our budget. \n\nHe repealed Obamacare and destroyed the insurance market. Millions will be without health insurance as a result next year. \n\nHe put a former Comcast lobbyist as head of FCC. Guy promptly dismantled Net neutrality. Get ready for Comcast and time warner to regulate torrents much more severely, lower data caps, throttle traffic and give preference to their content. You will pay more for Netflix and amazon as a result, and if you want to start a business online, you will have to pay Comcast a lot for access. This isn’t a maybe. This is happening. \n\nHe destroyed the EPA. I guess global warming is fake now bc he says it is. I’m sure rising sea levels on coastal cities and hurricanes that ravage the south will never be a thing we should care about or prepare for. \n\nHe (and the republicans mostly) stole Obama’s Supreme Court seat. A conservative has been put in and odds are another will soon die. That means we have citizens united 2.0, repeal of roe/wade, and abolition of gay rights to look forward too. Yay. \n\nRepealed DACA. Because fuck all those college kids living here for the last 20 ears. Even though they speak English better then you and went to HS here, we should send them back. Or more accurately prevent them from getting high paying jobs and paying into the tax system. \n\nAllowed oil drilling in public lands and offshore. Bc yosemeti is stupid and fuck the oceans. Also coal is the next big thing of course. \n\nThe whole Muslims ban. Bc that’s very American to literally ban people by their religion. And I’m sure it serves a great practical purpose along with winning us a lot of international favors. \n\nPut that cunt Betsey Devos in the DOE. Bc fuck the children if they don’t go to private school. \n\nThis hasn’t even touched on private prisons, his campaign finance fraud, the Russia treason thing, his anti-Vaxxer shit, his refusing to devest his assets, his fucking children being in top gov positions (bc this is a fucking monarchy righ? Nepotism is cool now?), destroyed the state department, tremendous loss of assets at NSA and CIA, fanning North Korea, and destroying trade deals. \n\nHis attitude doesn’t bother me. I don’t care how many Russian prostitues he pisses on or how how many blacks he calls niggers or refuses to rent apartments to. He has made some really really harmful policies to the country and we haven’t really seen the extream harm they will cause because not enough time has passed. Tax cuts are nice now but when the budget increase by a trillion dollars and the repeal of dod-frank causes another mortgage bubble burst and implodes the fucking economy in 3 years you’ll know who to blame. Or when it’s the second time in a year your house was slammed by a hurricane and the gov offers no money to help you rebuild bc there isn’t any, etc. \n\nShit is going to get bad we are still riding Obama’s bull market wave. We won’t be riding it in 2 years. ",
"and upvoted hard, ahh left wing cheerleaders what would we do without them",
"Can’t get shit done? Individual mandate for ACA scrapped as part of the historic tax bill, regulations gutted, SCOTUS appointment, SCOTUS backed travel ban from shithole countries, 4% GDP growth. All with his own party trying to subvert his every move. \n\nBtw just because that, “sounds autonomous,” to you doesn’t make it so. That’s like calling a commercial airliner an autonomous drone because it flies on autopilot. The presence of a human disqualifies the vehicle from being autonomous. I wasn’t sure why you couldn’t grasp that but now that you’ve said Trump can’t get shit done when he had the most successful first year of any POTUS in the last century is helping me put the pieces together. ",
"That’s the scary thing. You and many people actually believed that Donald Trump could make Mexico pay to build a wall...\n\nYeah, that, along with all his other promises, is *never going to happen*.\n\nYou know, like ‘lock her up’ and ‘drain the swamp’, it was just a slogan. Never going to actually happen.\n\nAnd yet people actually believed it. \n\nIf I fell for it I’d be angry, yet his supporters still don’t seem to care that he lied to them...",
"They want diversity of everything but opinion. ",
"I thought we weren't allowed to talk about 'muh hillary'?",
"There are far, far more people who legitimately need aid than people who abuse the system. If you would withhold lifesaving funds because someone might abuse some fraction of the amount you helped to supply, then you’re saying you won’t help someone who is dying because someone else is milking the system. \n\nWould I offer a junkie money directly? No, I’d offer him an option for rehabilitation. But if two people came to my door, one with a legitimate medical need that could be cured with my tax money, and the other a junkie, and they had to split the money, I would gladly give my share. \n\nThis isn’t a game. People die because they cannot afford medications for their chronic illnesses. Often. Why the hell would I not help them because someone else may use my contribution to skate by? What sense does that make? How do you justify that?\n\nWould you turn them both away because one chooses to abuse the money, knowing the other will surely die because you didn’t help?",
"It’s probably the 24 hour news cycle and the wildly different range of reactions fed through social media like this, but the future seems more divisive than ever before and I’m more terrified of this by far than really anything else. \n\nTrump will be gone in 3 years or 7 years depending on your point of view but he isn’t here forever. The issues which polarize our nation and caused endless people to create such pointless caricatures of one another will remain. \n\nImmigration will be a divisive issue. As will taxation, social safety nets, global warming, corporate regulation, affirmative action, international trade, healthcare, education, space exploration, personal privacy, gun control, drug legalization and so much more. Even abortion which has been clear settled law in the highest court in our nation for the last 45 years will somehow continue to be controversial.\n\nIf people are still bickering about 45 year old settled law, there’s no just fucking hope for us to solve real issues. Seriously what happens when tens of millions of people are replaced in the coming decades by automation? What happens to that person who has a family but not enough money to retire, not enough time to learn something new, and unskilled labour is either gone entirely or completely on its way out? We’re woefully unprepared for this.\n\nI honestly believe that discourse has significantly changed over the last few decades and that most people are as close minded as ever before, seeking only to have their opinions reenforced and only to engage with the other side to ridicule them for their beliefs. \n\nThe problems that are near are so much more important than the tribes people all identify with and we seem to be moving completely in the wrong direction. ",
"He says in reply to a list of reasons the person voted for trump",
"Oye, you're deluded. ",
"The logic of due process is so 1990s!",
"Bad bot",
"There's a lot of people talking a big game; that's pretty much it.\n\nTrump hasn't really done anything very impactful. His tax plan is quite conservative but not out-of-keeping with what we'd expect from any republican who might have won in his place.\n\nEverything else is just Trump talking shit and people taking him seriously. ",
"Correct the Record",
"Lmao. Of course. Keep on believin!",
"Do you know the reason they expire?",
"And you're just butt hurt after a year of your candidate's loss... Still!!! ",
"why? its his money he obviously has more than a couple mill, but its none of your business",
"Because not all opinions are equal. Next time you need surgery, be sure to get the opinion of a trained surgeon, AND jim bob from down by the crick. I mean, why dont you respect their say equally, right? \n\nExcept trump supporters voted for *our* collective surgeon, and now jim bob is operating on us both, even though he is painfully obviously unqualified to do so. \n\nBut respect the opinion, right ?\n",
"> he had the most successful first year of any POTUS in the last century\n\nConfirmed troll. You got me, lol.",
"Have you heard Trump's election slogan before? Scroll up to the image this entire thread is about ...",
"Just because economic collapses happened after Republican controlled government does not mean Republicans are responsible for the collapses. The latest collapse was result of deregulation that began with Bill Clinton.\n\nYea I used to feel the same way. It's not about greed and keeping whats mine, it's about empowering people to become productive and have self worth rather than rely solely on government and tax payers. \n\nWhat if that doctor has 3 children that need to go to college and one with special needs that will live at home forever? He could pay their way if wasn't buying ribeyes and redbull along with housing for a drug dealing deadbeat dad that government says he needs to support and brought home 250K instead of 150K.\n\nI will believe in equal treatment to all as soon as all become equal.",
"Salty bitches right?",
"Ok but did I call you or anyone else here a snowflake? No. I'm not insulting anybody. I don't believe calling people a snowflake will achieve anything. Democrats throwing insults is just as ineffective as Republicans throwing insults.However comma, the left throws insults on the daily like its normal. Especially during and after the last election. If i had a dollar for every time I heard / saw a leftist call someone \"homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic, trans-phobic racist, sexist, misogynistic, stupid, etc\" I'd be a very rich man.",
"mind explaining how obamas foreign policy led to \"good things\" \n\n\n",
"what some things you would say trump deserves praise for?",
"Do politicians swing? Or want a cracker?",
"Bullshit. Islamists are responsible for the majority of deaths since 9/11, the vast majority when including 9/11. All while Whites make up the majority of the population, Muslims 1%.\n\nhttp://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255a.html\n\nSome of those Islamists were born in the US, that much is true. In almost every case their parents were immigrants, and brought with them a backwards ideology. Your kind may like to see less internet freedom, more surveillance, or criminalization of \"hate speech\" that may ostracize Muslims. My kind doesn't want to invite the problem to begin with. ",
"Wait. I'm a dumb Trump supporter and I'm confused. Figures right. But with all us dumb Trump supporters, 'bout all we can do is dig ditches and clean toilets... So, when the liberals say that there's no one in 'Merica do those jobs... and we needs bring in the 'mgrants to do em.... well... i gets confused...",
"And people from those countries come here because those countries turn into shitholes. ",
"I just want a couple of reports showing some level of production. I’m not at all convinced the EPA has curbed pollution in the slightest. Companies have been dumping waste into our rivers both before and after the EPA came into existence. Can you provide any empirical data that the EPA has curbed pollution. Or some of those electronics and vehicles created by the private sector, how were they aided by the EPA? I venture to say that they weren’t, even in the slightest. On the contrary, their endless regulations have crippled industries.",
"It can be applied to both sides.",
"I’ve been alive a long time. I can’t recall a SCOTUS appointment, 4% GDP growth, endless regulations gutted, comprehensive tax reform, etc. in any POTUS’ first year. Maybe you, in your infinite wisdom, can point me in the direction of a more successful first year?",
"So I grew up pretty traditionally conservative in an overwhelmingly blue state and it was infuriating trying to just live my rural life and be left alone. I was hounded in college for my views on taxes and social programs (if you scale them back and let people keep more of their own money they can choose what's best for their own selves) and my opinions on the 2A. \n\nBoth parties have overgrown what they should be but it's the voters on the left that drive me crazy. The ones I would passively encounter, that is, in a regular day-to-day, all seemed to share the opinion that it's easier to let the government take your money and decide what's best for everyone, whereas I'm very small government and feel people should be free to make their own choices and opt out if they want. The Democrat voters all seem to be in favor of expanding government and creating feel-good legislation like making misgendering someone hate speech or outlawing certain firearms based on looks instead of statistics, thereby encroaching on my own rights such as free speech and freedom to bear arms. \n\nLastly, in my state, the whole state fed the city. Whether it's with power and utilities or through farming, the city needs the country to survive but will then turn around and spit on us as if it was our obligation to serve them and they knew what was best for us poor bumpkins. And that's what I saw during this entire campaign. Hillary openly flip-flopped on issues depending on her audience, pandered to minorities, and ignored the rural areas that she deemed unimportant and the people who live there have as much right and agency to decide what laws should be passed that affect the way everyone lives, and they said so with their votes. ",
"Not disagreeing with you, But 50 percent is fucking ridiculous.\n\nMaybe that rate after a certain income is met, such as if the rate is 50% for every dollar made after, say, 300k in income, that's way more reasonable. But paying 50% of your income when making more than 300k?\n\nI would just make sure to make 299k a year to avoid paying 150k",
"I don't think that's true. People are aware of Obamacare's impact, his support of gay marriage and net neutrality, in addition to his scaling up of the drone program and decision to classify an American as an enemy combatant.\n\nFox and the GOP spent all eight years (plus the last one) screaming about real and made-up scandals of his pretty loudly - that didn't fall on deaf ears.",
"The advocacy groups which are triggered by the fact that the country is increasingly more diverse are.",
"Trump is literally a savior from Heaven. Only (((Sharia Blue))) is against him, for dishonest reasons! That is the only explanation!",
"The beauty of it all is that I’m not American or a Trump supporter. But not being a Trump hater is synonymous with Trump supporter in the hive mind of Reddit",
"Do we even live on the same planet?\n\nHave you never heard about the KKK, Alt-right, white-nationalists, Neo-nazism? \n\nYou are literally, **demonstrably** incorrect.\n\nEDIT: [Let me help you out](http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Neo-Nazism)\n\n\n ",
"By calling out people like you?\n\nYeah, probably am.",
"Go look up confirmation bias ya dipshit. You can't just go find some fucking moron on Twitter and then pretend everybody on the left acts that way. Statistically, it's probably around like 0.1% of leftists that actually want to do any harm to anybody at all... meanwhile, you support a president that tears families apart, takes health insurance away from people, passes tax laws that hurt 99% of people to benefit the richest, actively contradicts himself in desperate attempts to keep the pathetic hold over the pathetic people that follow his fat, stupid ass, etc. It's amazing how you can follow such a fucking terrible example of a human being so blindly that you'd probably ask for seconds if he actually shit in your mouth, but you call leftists retarded. Open your eyes, dumbass. Actually look at what he's done for you. Name one thing. I guarantee you can't name a single fucking thing.",
"\"Look daddy, I used your language! Are you proud of me yet?\"",
"Yeah they can go screw themselves.\n\nBtw, my original comment was joke.",
"“Everyone who disagrees with me is stupid”",
"Tax plan, booming economy, ISIS next to non-existent, confronting North Korea when no other administration would, tough stance on immigration even though the courts are purposely sabotaging it, bringing back jobs, pulling out of bad deals like the Paris Climate Agreement, standing up to NATO instead of flipping the bill for the rest of the world, increase in military budget, Keystone pipeline revival, pulled out TPP, cracking down on sanctuary cities, and I'm sure I'm missing a few.\n\nThis is all in 1 year with the media and internal sabotage trying to ruin him. ",
"And if you keep calling them idiots they will magically see your point of view and see the light?\n\nFlawless logic.",
"Appreciated.",
"9/11 was one event nearly two decades ago - I'm talking about things we can improve today. We've already made so many changes to prevent another 9/11.\n\nAnd if we're worried about corrupt/ineffective governments making it hard to do background checks, wouldn't it be equally hard to judge someone's merit? Couldn't they pay a corrupt government to make them a doctor, or lie in paperwork where we can't disprove it?\n\nI would love to see the administration detail how \"merit based\" immigration would be implemented, but until then it sounds like branding they are using to cut down on immigration from countries their base doesn't like - despite the migrants being good for our country.",
"Alright, good job. You have proved me wrong. My opinion has changed. That's te beauty of opinions. I also should have phrased my comment differently or thought more about it before i posted. I was mainly referring to trump voters. I still consider their opinion valid, but i said \"every\". Oops. ",
"To Gauge. The results happen but it takes time to see how. And to be sure of it. But when shit changes right away. Like say a big up tick in the market. You can be pretty sure thats a cause of the event that happen. Stock market takes a damn hour to react to global events. ",
"I'm listening.",
"Don't you dare question my tastes.",
"Here in America, that land is, for the most part, owned by Americans. A culture over millions of square miles is so much more diverse than the culture of millions of people stacked upon each other that it's surprising to me that a leftist like you didn't already understand it. I mean, yall are all about diversity; couldn't you see that a widespread opinion means much more to a society than a single-minded bunch of people muddled into a dense population? I'll accept the 3,084 counties' opinions over the 57 you are so willingly brainwashed to consider a \"majority.\"",
"Noting you've presented here would lead a reasonable person to conclude that such groups are primarily responsible for Trump's election.\n\nIt sounds like you're just really focused on the fact that some people who voted for Trump are racists and that's leading you to characterize Trump and everyone who voted for him as racist.\n\nIronically, applying blanket judgement based on group membership is the same mistake made by racists... ",
"Name's taken",
"How are those insults if they’re used accordingly? It’s better than being called terrorist, faggot, feminazi, or the n-word by the alt-right. ",
"Shit, I haven't been duped at all. The rig count has almost doubled. Oil prices are up 35%. I'm a 50% owner of an oil field service company. Our tax rate just got cut from 39.5% to 26-27%. \n\nAbout 50,000 Texans have gone back to work in the oilfield. Just about every company is hiring. Offshore is about to open up again. Regulations are being lifted. Oil is projected to reach high $70s - $80 per barrel by 2019 and maintain through 2022. \n\nIf this is getting duped I'd like to schedule another duping for 2020. ",
"I was talking about democratic government, not seeking assistance from trained professionals, but sure, keep ranting at me.",
"SCOTUS appointment was not Trumps doing, he was just in the seat, lol.\n\nObama's policies are responsible for the 4% GDP growth, Trump has not passed a single law that affects it and in fact, his twitter tantrums probably cost us better trade deals. We are a joke on the national stage with him as POTUS.\n\nRegulations gutted by EO - easily reversed.\n\nTax Reform - lmao, 'reform' that resulted in a wave of fucking layoffs.\n\n\n>more successful first year\n\nBush, Clinton, Bush, Obama all had more productive first years and *none* of them embarrassed us. None of them were overweight. None of them took as much vacation. None of them denigrated an entire continent of people. None of them have daily scandals. None of them have had so much turnover in the WH. It's fucking laughable that you believe Trump is somehow successful. He already has two people in his adminstration/campaign who pled guilty to conspiracy charges and two more indicted with more to come. He is in the pocket of Putin based on how kid-gloves he is with him - I **hope** Trump wins another 4 years, but I don't think it will happen...he makes politics hilarious and is forcing the GOP to own his 'family values' lifestyle and defend his twitter feed that reminds me of a 13yr old reddit poster. I could go on, but there are other trolls out here I need to laugh at.\n\n\n",
"You’re really generalizing groups here. There are plenty of immigrant groups that outperform us academically and bring business to the US. The percentage of immigrants in important careers such as medicine, law, and engineering is increasing rapidly. It’s clear that you’re just talking about Hispanics which is unfair seeing as a large amount of them grow up in low income communities where there is less opportunity for quality education. You don’t even take into account that many of the jobs they take are ones. that Americans aren’t willing to take",
"r/trumpgret",
"I'm not sure what Johnson Archive's classification method is, but studies on the subject say otherwise when discussing what is impacting us in recent years\n https://apps.revealnews.org/homegrown-terror/\n\nhttps://theintercept.com/2017/05/31/the-numbers-dont-lie-white-far-right-terrorists-pose-a-clear-danger-to-us-all/\n\nYou're just wrong here, and I think we can both agree that 9/11 shouldn't be impacting our immigration policies 17 years later, having already taken so many mitigative measures related to it.\n\nEdit: another link, from the Cato Institute https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/terrorism-immigration-risk-analysis\n\nEdit: Snopes has a massive link list on the subject, including this nice piece of nuance:\n\n\"According to START, Muslim extremist violence killed seven times more people than far-right extremist violence between 1990 and 2016, despite five times fewer fatal attacks. However, this period included the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing and the attacks of 11 September 2001, the two deadliest terrorist incidents in American history. When those outliers are removed from the figures, according to START, far-right extremist violence caused 272 deaths between 1990 and 2016 — more than twice as many as the 130 deaths from Islamic extremism during the same period.\"\n\nhttps://www.snopes.com/2017/06/07/threat-extremists-more/\n\n",
"Inciteful\n",
"Voting is an activity for stupid people. Smart people have long since figured out it's pointless.",
">typical liberals\n\nWait... what?",
"Are you trying to explain why we should get rid of democracy? ",
"Hmmmm, it’s almost like the president actually becomes president after they are elected. ",
"Trump supporters are an exception. If they so strongly support a rapist, a racist, a pedophile and a traitor, they deserve to be mocked and ridiculed.",
"You're a moron. Both the image and the benefits are equally important. If nobody takes you seriously it becomes more difficult to get results. When other governments have to treat our president as a child it makes things more difficult. \nPut yourself in the shoes of someone he's attacked. How would you like it it someone called where you lived a shit-hole? You likely would be offended in some fasion, or amused. either way your opinion of that cou try has gone down and any deals you kight make will be impacted. \nGet your head out of his ass and think for once how a toddler who throws fits on Twitter probably isn't the best person to rule our country.",
"It doesn't matter what Trump supporters think. They support a pedophile and a traitor.",
"Hahaha wow you have a level of ignorance I don’t believe I’ve ever seen before. Part of the reason he was elected was to fill the SCOTUS seat. Obama and his economic stalwart Krugman INSISTED the economy would never again hit 3% GDP, much less 4%. Crediting Obama with that is an exercise in lunacy. The welcome Trump got in Asia didn’t look like a joke to me. You know what was a joke. When limp wristed Barry Soetoro was hurried out of the ass end of AF1 with no red carpet on his last trip to China with a Chinese diplomat excoriating Susan Rice in front if cameras. That, sir, was an embarrassment. \n\nMuch like Obama’s entire Presidency. As if it weren’t enough that we here in Mass (having been exposed to Romneycare) sent doofus Scott Brown to the Senate with the sole purpose of shooting down ACA, he forced it down our throat anyway. Thanks to President Trump I’ll never be under threat of a tax penalty for refusing to purchase a product from a private company. Thank you POTUS for dismantling that piece of shit Communist legislation!",
"So you don't refute climate change, but you and \"millions of people\" support Trump's pro-coal/ignore climate change stance? Nice mental gymnastics there. ",
"Oh the irony of the irony ",
"Why would you like someone who is a rapist, a racist, a pedophile and a traitor? Unless that means you...",
"They are stupid though. Not even politically motivated. They are just straight up mentally ill.",
"A pedophile traitor is so much better.",
"People were aware that Obamacare was amazing... for a small fraction of Americans. Meanwhile, the majority insured by the ACA saw an significant increase in what they had to pay. \n\nAnd opposed to what you say, the scandals under the Obama administration definitely fell on deaf ears. If Democrats and liberals were honest people, they wouldn’t ignore or downplay them. ",
"You haven't been paying attention to the investigation that Trump and his sycophants are freaking out about?",
"* T_D\n\n* /r/Politics\n\n* conspiracy\n\n* and the list goes on...",
"What reddit needs is for Americans to drag him out of the white house by his neck.",
"No, you painted the picture of white supremacy being the most severe threat. 9/11 and the terrorist attacks since have far outnumbered any attacks carried out by white supremacists. White supremacy as a prevalent ideology is a myth, just look at SPLC’s own numbers if you have any doubts.",
"Hating Trump isn't a political issue.",
"Is she? She seems to be enjoying herself to me.\n\nThere's a small problem with your theory. She's being protected by \"high level law enforcement\" huh? So strong that you can't arrest her because of the \"deep state,\" right?\n\nDoesn't that mean you've already lost? She's already in control of something apparently higher up than the government, according to your nutjob idea. Why do you think she would care about any further investigations? \n\nYou and Trump, you guys know all about what happened and know she committed a crime, so what's stopping you from making that clear? Why do you need more investigations? ",
"It is. If you support Trump you are a fucking idiot. Period.\n\nIt's like electing Lex Luthor as president, if Lex Luthor was a brain dead pedophile.",
"Obamacare impacted everyone in the country - no one needs to listen to the media to get an opinion on it. And what makes you think liberals are inherently dishonest? Is it not possible people can have different experiences leading them to different conclusions?",
"The attitude that got him elected is that his supports are racists who love pedophiles and rapists.",
"And politics isn't a profession? Its an apt comparison. Half the country elected an unqualified buffoon, but im supposed to respect that? No sir. ",
"Hey now, let’s not bring Joe Biden into this.",
"I respect you for accepting facts and changing course acccordingly. \n\nMore people should have this quality.\n\n",
">Half the country elected an unqualified buffoon, but im supposed to respect that? \n\nSo what you're saying is you don't have any respect at all for the democratic process and would prefer everyone make decisions that you agree with?",
"sub2%, lol, if you’re gonna use stats, at least be correct and not so damn selective. i could do the same and tout the 5.6% quarterly gdp growth obama hit during his presidency, or the 1.2% trump hit immediately after he started,\n\nwant to add the fact that the job growth is less than 5 out of 8 obama years?\n\ni can also remind you that obama did that while inheriting the shitstorm bush’s de-regultion caused. you know, the same de-regulation trump promotes. and yes, due to that de-regulation bush did see a spike in gdp growth before it all cam crashing down.\n\nwhat about trump *lying as usual* and claiming obama never hit 3% gdp growth...failing to explain that this is on a yearly basis, whereas on a q basis (to which trump was comparing) obama did surpass the 3%.\n\nfinally, the past 3 q’s during trump, every estimate had to be corrected downwards. so until q4 2017 is official, boasting the 4% growth is also not certain, since they also estimates it for q3 which ended up being 3.2%.\n\nso please do tell me, where exactly lies the proof of you claim that drumpf *doubled* the growth of obama’s gdp?\n\nironically all this gdp growth comes from the non-trump states. the ones that actively introduce legislation to counter trump’s federal deregulation.\n\nsources:\n\nhttp://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/us-economic-growth-soars-reaches-11-year-high\n\nhttps://www.google.co.il/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/12/14/comparing-the-trump-economy-to-the-obama-economy/\n\nhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/#0\n\nhttp://fortune.com/2017/08/30/donald-trump-springfield-mo-3-gdp/",
">Obama and his economic stalwart Krugman INSISTED the economy would never again hit 3% GDP\n\nThey were wrong and didn't realize how effective their liberal policies would be. Obama was wrong, you got me!\n\n>The welcome Trump got in Asia\n\n\"Bless your heart!\" - That's the welcome you get in the south when they think your a fucking idiot. Same idea, except more Asian.\n\n>That, sir, was an embarrassment.\n\nYup. Not sure you are winning when you have to dig to lower the bar for Trump.\n\n>Communist \n\nDoesn't appear you know what that word means...lol. This is why people spot Trump supporters so quickly, vocabulary usage.",
"He says, clearly not reading the conversation above him.\n\nI said this in reply to an example of exactly what I was talking about. ",
"Lower taxes dumbass",
"job growth is lower than the last 3 obama years.\n\nhis magic wand is as real as magic.\n\nscience, bitch.",
"Oh good point. I did forget that one.",
">My point is that you keep contradicting yourself.\n\nYou really truly have no idea what you are talking about. You need to take and actually comprehend some economics courses. Nothing you are writing is cogent. It's all complete nonsense. ",
"They are both pedophiles. But Trump is the pedophile currently in charge.",
"Off the top of my head, he re-opened the US relationship with Cuba creating new opportunities for business, negotiated a nuclear treaty with Iran which is based on verification, which settled-down animosities in that area to an extent, he was responsible for the defeat of Osama bin Laden and continued a successful campaign against al Qeida, and played a major role in bringing together several major nations to create an agreement and set goals to address climate change while creating new industries. Those are just a few. I'm sure if you wanted to, you could very easily find more examples with some cursory research.",
"I’m waiting on proof. If they actually find something, then fuck Trump. Until then, fuck everyone assuming it’s true with no evidence. ",
"Theres a difference between \"things i dont agree with\" and \"things which are objectively wrong with any degree of critical thinking\"\n\nI never insulted bush voters, even though i disagreed strongly with his stances. Trump is a dumpster fire, but that was obvious to anyone who actually looked at the candidates.\n\nIn America, your argument is basically why we have idiots who believe \"my ignorance is the same as your knowledge\". \n\n[Edit] to say nothing, of course, of the ongoing investigation into Russian interference with our \"democratic process\".",
"In regards to numbers, I'll just link this other comment of mine with linked sources https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q0qgo/oh_the_irony/dsm1l1v \n\nTl;Dr, yes if you look only at deaths and include 9/11 Islamic terrorism looks the most dangerous. If you look at the last ten years (ie, modern day), far-right terrorism (white supremacists) are the bigger problem impacting us.\n\nI don't believe 9/11 should be impacting our immigration decisions today, since we've already implemented many fixes that have been effective in preventing another one.\n\nEdit: and another comment on the numbers here https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q0qgo/oh_the_irony/dsm2az5",
"You see no difference between implementing government control on every single market and implementing it on markets that demonstrably fail to maximize utility through the free market alone?",
"It's Trump. Just assume every dumbass thing he did is true until proven otherwise.",
"I'll take \"can't deal with a democratic result he doesn't like\" for $200, Alex.",
"I don’t know a single Trump supporter with any regret. ",
"Replacing the system is the best solution.",
"Nah, the republicans are almost as bad. But the way the left carries on today I'd think anyone with any intelligence would have switched to some other political persuasion by now.",
"Could we get them to unite behind a third part candidate? ",
"Forcing the public to buy a product from a private company via coercion is literally a main tenet of Communism. ACA could not have possibly been a less capitalist, pro-Communist piece of legislation. Another swing and a miss.\n\nTheir awesome liberal policies, eh? Guess it was on a 9 year plan triggered to kick in immediately after he left office. What a sweetheart to drop such a nice gift in his predecessor’s lap! Seriously though, “Nobel Laureate,” Krugman and douche extraordinaire Mark Cuban predicted the economy would instantly COLLAPSE upon a Trump victory lmao nice try!\n\nChina let him dine in their Forbidden City, a first for any American POTUS. I so wish they didn’t roll out the red carpet, hurried him off the plane and screamed in the face of one of Trump’s Cabinet members like the did to Barry! Aww man, I wish our leaders would be spat upon again like that!\n\n \n\n\n\n",
"Ah yes, resorting to personal attacks, always a rational, logical way to talk. ",
"I think there's something structural about the way a majority has to be taken that's unique to the US and locks us into a two party system. It's harder for a third party candidate to win.",
"Lol. \"I'm not an idiot, I just happen to agree with them.\"",
">I wish our leaders would be spat upon again like that!\n\nTrump is a snowflake, so you won't see it. This is why he stays in bed and doesn't venture out anywhere except his golf courses. LOL. Well, that and he isn't invited.\n\n>Forcing the public to buy a product from a private company is literally a main tenet of Communism\n\nLMAO",
"Ahh yes, those part time McDonald’s employees did so much to achieve 4% growth! Oh wait, that was caused by meaningful full time jobs added under Trump thanks to looming tax cuts and deregulation. Obama struggled to hit 2%. Sad!",
"Only one of them has an hour of B-roll footage caressing small children. I trust my eyes. You can trust anonymous sources.",
"Trump is a snowflake so leaders won’t disrespect him? What logic is that?!? He was invited to the Forbidden City on his long trip to Asia. But yeah, totes only golfs and watches Faux News, amirite?!?\n\nDon’t even address the fact that ACA is Communist. Apparently forcing people to buy something under threat of tax penalty is capitalist, according to you. Anything you say further on the matter is only going to expose your lack of intelligence. ",
"You didn't hear him saying he's going to date a ten year old soon? Or how he's friends with Jeffery Epstein?",
"The American people were handed a shit sandwich and the only choice they got was which way up they wanted to eat it.",
"I'll also point out that the tiny number of bad individuals we're taking about here makes the proposed immigration changes seem silly. If 200 bad guys want to get to the US over the course of a decade, they will find a way. It's like throwing the baby and the bathwater out because a fly fell into it.",
"The problem with the democrats is that they are mollifying- they make us *feel* like we're doing something, when they'll just sell us out to corporate interests but also have the gall to tell us it's for our own good. \n\nIt's important that we put people with real ideas in congress, or else we're going to end up with feckless Dems who will make everyone long for the Trump days, and the next Trump might be an evil mastermind who takes control and never lets go.",
"Only one POTUS ever flew to Pedophile Island with Epstein and that’s none other than Rapin’ Bill Clinton. 26 times in fact. ",
"I will disagree with you slightly. I think what really needs to change is people need to really start holding people that they vote for accountable. the team mentality has gotten out of hand.",
">>trump is stoopid karma pls\n\n",
"Almost? You’re crazy man, and for you to think the left is worse? That’s crazy too, todays republicans are nothing but money hungry, power hoarding grubs, doing everything they can to work another nickel off the lower class, at least the left fights for something other than corporate gains",
"While Obamacare impacts all Americans, not all are insured under it, incase you didn’t know. I rarely see people talk about the negative effects of Obamacare. And I didn’t mean to say all Democrats and liberals were inherently dishonest. I only meant that the people that downplay the scandals are dishonest. I only see liberals and Democrats doing that, which contributed to my poor wording.",
"I got plenty laid in college- \"hope and change\" was gooooooood to me.\n\nSure, Marxist nations don't have a great track record, but capitalism is shit to everyone not in the ruling classes. It's feudalism without the honesty or decency.\n\nI'm open to any other ideas, but I don't think Marxism should be the dirty word when the most prosperous nation in history can't figure out how to give its citizens basic fucking healthcare or a baseline quality of life.",
"I know yeah, diversity of opinions sucks!! ",
"Mental disorder? Damn, these snowflakes learn more and more when fox and friends tell them their only narrative.",
"ah look and now comes the old\n\n*but ma growth was tha realz gr0wth*.\n\nway to completely not refute any of my point in a meaningful way.\n\nit just underlines the level of intelligence i’ve come to expect from trumpoids.\n\nenjoy the upcoming impeachment.\n\nyeh yeah blah blah, mueller dream on blah blah. i don’t care for your fantasy roleplay reality where the most massive political investigation is somehow a hoax, so save it. i’ll be thinking specifically of people like you when agent alzheimer is forced out of office and wears a jumpsuit that matches his complexion.\n\n(ok the prison part is wishful thinking, i’ll give you that).\n\nenjoy the shitshow while it lasts, comrade.",
"Yes. He was also a pedophile. Doesn't change the fact that Trump is also a pedophile.",
"I bet you're right!\n\nI'm going to give him 24 hours (19 more to go!), and then I'm going to answer the questions.",
"> totes only golfs and watches Faux News, amirite?!?\n\nMostly, yes.\n\nTrump is a snowflake because he won't go anywhere that a red carpet isn't rolled out for him. \n\n>Apparently forcing people to buy something under threat of tax penalty is capitalist, according to you.\n\nIt's neither communist nor capitalist, but you do you!!",
"That’s a stupid way to think. I’d rather continue to be a rational skeptic.",
"200? What an arbitrary number. Dems were planning a massive increase in Muslim, “refugees,” and immigrants in the coming years. This idea that only a small number of Muslims are a threat is such nonsense. I have a cousin from Malaysia. Hardly considered a radical Muslim country by most Westerners. She was a second class citizen there, at best. Importing hundreds if thousands from regions where beheadings and lashings are normal is a death sentence. And a far greater threat than, “white supremacy.”",
"So now it's not White Supremacists, but \"far-right extremists\". Even the Snopes article that you selectively quoted from claims that Islamists have killed more than \"far-right extremists\", according to the Government Accountability Office. Again, from a pool of 1%. You're obfuscating again.\n\n9/11 should impact immigration policies so long as the ideology behind those attacks exists. 17 years is nothing in a 1400 year war.",
"No they don't. They don't even stand for anything anymore. All they do is try to get Trump, and they really suck at it.",
"That's true too, but take a Pelosi or Schumer- we *know* where they stand. They're open about who they serve, and it's not the middle and lower classes they pay so much lip service to. The idealists, sure, we can take them to task, but the entrenched ones are going to screw this whole thing up again.",
"Even playing along with your demented fantasy, I presume you’re willing to live with President Pence? Do you know what grounds are for impeachment? Do you know that Bill Clinton wasn’t even removed from office despite lying under oath about getting his cock sucked by an intern and blowing a load on her face with his wife and kid down the hall? Oh but yeah Drumpf is going down because of Manafort’s taxes from 15 years ago and Flynn’s charge of lying to an FBI agent about something that was completely legal either way lmao even Alan Dershowitz is utterly embarrassed by the Mueller investigation. Keep clinging!",
"This is what I tell everyone when they bring up politics and the president. My life has never had any noticeable change when a new president was elected. ",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/74s1bw/oh_the_irony/",
"Shots fired",
"Far-right ideology is white supremacist ideology as far as I know. It's kind of an expansion of it actually.\n\nAnd I'm not sure how I was only picking the parts I liked when I said that only if you look at deaths (not number of incidents), and include 9/11 islamist attacks do appear more dangerous.\n\nIn both cases, were talking about less than 250 incidents over two or three decades. There proposed immigration changes impact millions today, and hurt the economy.",
"Obama was bashed relentlessly for 8 years. Stop being such a snowflake and stand by your convictions. ",
"~200 was taken from right number of terror incidents we're discussing here.\n\nIf you look at the number of immigrants involved in terror incidents, it's much less",
"You see how I’m substantiating my claims? Yours are based on nothing. If Trump was a pedophile we’d know for sure. The DNC spent $2 billion dollars digging up dirt on him and they got “muh Pussy tape!” There’s a reason he never flew to Pedo Island with Epstein. Trump also banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago long before that when I believe a staff member accused him of sexually assaulting her.",
"I'm sure he put both of those stickers together implying that the Democratic Party is the group of stupid people.",
"Obamacare helped my family finally get insured, so I do have a bias in that sense. Of course it raised prices because insurers now have to cover more unhealthy people instead of kicking them to the curb. What other bad effects were there?",
"Term limits is something both sides agree on, but funnily enough when either side gets in power, that issue falls off to the wayside.",
"Well, unless he makes more than $225,000 a year, has many and varied business holdings and/or large tracks of land and/or Pass Through Income and/or is wealthy enough to be hit with Estate Tax, then yeah, he's about to get well and truly fucked by Trump & Company.\n\nRetarded? Probably.\n\nA danger to himself and others (as defined by the DSM-5)? Definitely.",
"The US President always has a red carpet rolled out for him on foreign soil. Anything less is a big fuck you to all of us. Are you seriously that dense that you don’t understand that? \n\nIt’s Communist. Ok, technically socialist. But all socialism is is the foundation of Communism. ",
"Honestly, both options were horrendous options and America deserved far better. \n\nit's a rock or a hard place. ",
"\"fine people on both sides\"",
"As someone who doesn't agree with how he views people, he's honestly not doing *that* bad of a job, just could use some pointers. ",
"Lol you're clearly a child. You act like legislation is a elementary promise. We are the largest military in the world. We do not take aid from other countries. That is what you do not understand. It does NOT matter what they think. They have always talked shit. That's how I know you are a little bitch because you don't remember past presidents getting the fucking piss taken out of them.",
"Do i need to have tea with Hitler to have an opinion about him? ",
"The level of pure stupidity in this post is astounding and ignorant. CNN is totally objective and isn't left wing media... The entire premise of one party being smarter then the other is nothing but pure arrogance and stupidity. Both parties will have people that are incredibly smart and others unable to think for themselves. Since when has progressivism equated to being smart. I fail to see how adopting socialist ideologies is in any way good or smart considering it has failed every time it's been tried and led to more wars in modern history then anything else. Living in a diverse area does not make a person diverse the most racist bigoted people I've ever met lived in the D.C. which is a liberal Mecca. Further more at higher levels of education (graduate etc) the party lines are very close and get skewed toward republican/conservatism with the more money made as an individual. When you also factor in uneducated minorities that tend to vote democrat the scales are again balanced and again disprove your point that as a whole democrats are smarter. Personally I think a two party system is a moronic idea because it allows people that don't actually care about those who get them elected just about the votes they need to fail again.",
"They make up less than 1% of the population. How many terror incidents by leaks in the immigration system have to take place before you’d be willing to consider it a threat?",
">Anything less is a big fuck you to all of us. \n\nI don't think countries laughing and Trump and not inviting him is a fuck you to me, it's a fuck you to Trump. ",
"And you have some source that can definitively prove this where? Just because you disagree with their viewpoints doesn't make them stupid. ",
"Never underestimate a Redditors motivation to repost this picture for upvotes",
"People who kill abortionists are considered far-right, sovereign citizen types too, all kinds of weirdos. Islamists kill more than all of them. Why you'd want to import more of that is beyond me. The economic argument isn't even sound, Muslims are one of the poorest religious groups in the US.",
"So what is decent to you, murdering unborn human lives? How about taking the one thing that allows a weak defenseless person to protect themselves (guns)? How about taxing my hard earned money and frivilously throwing it away to someone who doesn't wanna work cuz the government keeps giving an free shit. I'm not doubting that many policies from the right are immoral in your eyes, but I can say the same thing about the left.",
">leading you to characterize Trump and everyone who voted for him as racist.\n\nI didn't say that, but if pretending makes you happier, go right ahead.",
"Bush fucked the economy beyond belief.\n\nThanks Bush indeed ^/s",
"Wrong. I just know the reality that the parties are in no way the same. Educate yourself before you tell someone else to do the same.\n\nhttps://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6pc5qu/democrats_propose_rules_to_break_up_broadband/dkon8t4/",
"> This is the issue with Democrats and Liberals, all you fucking see is gender and race and that's your issue.\n\nAre you joking or are you mentally deficient?\n\nLiberals, *by definition* do not care about race, gender, ethnicity or religion. We care about a person's *merit*.\n\nIs Hillary qualified to be Dog Catcher (much less President)? No, she isn't, and *that* is why I didn't vote for her.\n\nWhether they have a vagina or a penis *doesn't fucking factor into it.*\n\n> If anything it's the Democrats that are sexist racists. Take a look at what percentage of black people voted for Obama.\n\nFirst of all, a *huge* number of whites voted for him, including myself, all of my family members who were eligible to vote, my in-laws, and all of my friends.\n\nSecondly, the reason that so many blacks voted for him is because they thought \"Hey, maybe, just *maybe*, this guy won't pass any laws to subjugate us further. And hey, who knows? Maybe, just *maybe*, he may even get rid of some of the prejudice against black and brown people that already exists.\n\n> Also, I'm Middle Eastern and wasn't even born in the US.\n\nAnd you voted for Trump? A person who hates you just because of your ethnicity? And hates you *even More* because you aren't rich?\n\nI guess we answered *that* question.\n\n---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\n\nEdit: Fixed a sentence and expanded my answer.\n\nEdit 2: One of the sentences above inadvertently implied that I might have voted for Trump. I wish to be *very* clear on this point: If my choices were vote for Trump or be set on fire, I would provide the gasoline, and light the match myself.",
"I'm not sure if you are advocating for immigrating fewer terrorists, or fewer Muslims. Can you clarify?",
"Steve Bannon ring any bells?",
"I consider terrorism a threat, but with the current rates we see relating to immigrants I don't see changing immigration as an effective way to control terrorism.",
"The fact that I'm not naive enough to think Trump supporters are going to suddenly start being reasonable if we start being extra nice to them doesn't in any way suggest that I think calling them idiots will convince them to see the light.\n\nI'm not calling them idiots because I think it will convince them of anything. I'm calling them idiots because I think they're idiots. ",
"Good luck with that. In the meantime: vote.",
"last I checked its not an insult calling a duck by its name if it quacks.",
"It's almost like they don't understand how arousing stupid can be. ",
"So then if then if a leftist is called a snowflake it's not an insult? Keep up that mindset though. #Trump2020",
"Islamists are Muslim. Fewer Muslims, fewer Islamists. It's very simple.",
"In the economic argument portion, every study I've ever seen related to immigration and economic growth shows that diverse immigration waves boost GDP. Example: https://hbr.org/2017/04/why-mass-migration-is-good-for-long-term-economic-growth\n\nI would be interested to see a study showing differently - im not sure the average wealth of those who immigrate is a good proxy for it since the growth isn't caused by money they bring with them, but labor they add and businesses they build when they get here.\n\nPoor groups still grow GDP",
"super gay bro",
"Never said I ignore climate change? Youre telling me every politician you support holds *every single one* of your values?",
"Trump being a conman:\n\nhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/\n\n\nTrump being an idiot: \n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvFa4BP7AV0",
"was that when he added 10 trill to the debt?",
" how could you! And calling them dumb oohhhh nooooooo! ",
"It bills people who can purchase health insurance but chose not to, it causes certain employers to reduce employee hours in order for the business to qualify for tax cuts, and the cutoff point for tax assistance causes people who earn more than the federal poverty level to actually keep less than those under them. Since ACA is not mandatory, the people who get less than what they put in would naturally switch to private insurance, making it hard for the act to stay affordable.",
"If you're telling me you're anti-muslim then we don't need to continue further. \n\nI'm an atheist, but I'm not willing to exclude an entire religious group because of a tiny portion of extremists. Christians in the Bible-belt scare me more than any Muslim I've ever met in the US",
"This is the most bullshit paragraph I've read in a long time. So many words to say nothing meaningful. You don't get to decide which cultures count more thank God. Hey maybe we should vote by the pound. That would definitely give those counties some help :)",
"That logic can excuse anything.\n",
"Understood, yeah, I'm personally in favor of the mandate. There other impacts are bad, I would like to see them fixed since I see the net effect of the law as positive.\n\nEveryone I know was aware of the mandate penalty as well - while it was in effect. Of course, the removal of it will drive insurance prices higher as people decide to not get covered at all if they feel they are healthy",
"I already did. But you ignored it for some reason.",
"I was talking about Muslims already in the US, not Muslims looking to come to the US. The Muslims already in the US perform poorly compared to most other religious groups, which is something to consider when importing more of them, especially in a welfare state like the US.",
"But also stupid. ",
"Keep it up kid, undeserved condescension will get you far. ",
"Still true though. ",
"Or they didn't vote because, you know, they understood the demographic make up of their state. There wasn't much reason for a Democrat in Tennessee to vote for president considering they would have needed almost 100% turnout. Never mind the fact that if Tennessee of all places has a chance of going blue, then the Republicans don't really have much of a chance to begin with. And there are dozens of states like this. ",
"They need talking down to, those \"people\". ",
"Polipics",
"POLIPICS",
"Didn't vote for Clinton either, another corporate yes-woman with literally nothing going for her other than she doesn't have a peen. America is fucked y'all ",
"There really isn't.\n\nHow has your life changed as a direct result or anything real that has happened? Not asking how your perception has changed but your actual reality.",
"Bye",
"Why are we letting shitty posts get to the front page?",
"You want to see immigration policy based on the wealth of groups already here? Won't that make poverty caused by prejudice even worse?\n\nPeople who identify as black are poorer than whites on average, should we prioritize white immigrants?\n\nI don't see how the wealth of religious groups is relevant here\n\nEdit: and again, the wealth of people already here doesn't allow us to predict how much a given migrant might impact the GDP",
"That was when he *cut* taxes during a time of war. When he *cut* taxes while increasing Medicare benefits that cost nearly $60 Billion per year.\n\nThere are a lot more to mention, but yes. He added a lot of debt. Isn't it funny how its *always* the GOP fucking the good people of America over? I sure do enjoy a cup of getting fisted by corporate America and the candidates who are in their pockets in the morning.",
"Man-made global warming isn't as bad as al gore told us, ice caps are still there and his homes use more fossil fuels than lower Manhattan",
"Wasnt Trump voted in by electoral? And it went against popular vote anyway",
"No. This is widely known and accepted. There's something called *affirmative action* which is a very liberal solution to an issue. Stop spouting hypocrisy.",
"getting his cock sucked by an intern =/= collusion, obstuction of justice, treason, etc.\n\nbut you seem to be one of those childish whataboutists that think that if i think trump is guilty, i think others are innocent.\n\ni think every criminal should be in jail. point is, the signs are all over the place and he is guilty AF.\nand if you think this would exclude pence.... boy are you gonna have some tough years ahead.\n\nproblem is it’s a shitshow anyway, but americans should at least regain faith in democracy and get rid of the president who has a foreign power puppeteering him. at this point the most important thing is to stop the hemorrhaging of trust in the system, erosion of american values and most importantly, meddling of foreign powers.\n\nbut looking at what you said i feel you are one of those fingers in your ears people. too bad because i’m really curious how all of this is ‘justified’ from the other side of the coin.\n\nhow is his obvious putin bias excused? his unwillingness to go through with congressional sanctions of an historical adversary.\n\nmore so, how do you justify his fightig with veteran widows, his insulting american heroes, sharing secrets with our enemies, crusading against the ENTIRE intelligence community, while praising putin. how do you claim that someone attacking EVERY american institute (and not in a constructive way that would somehow at least leave place for improvement) is an american patriot.",
"I for one would want more of him in the world. ",
"I'm anti-Islam. It's a sham religion, and oppressive political system. I feel sorry for anyone living under it's rule, especially atheists like yourself. You need to get over being bullied by born again Chads in HS.",
"Mostly stupid.",
"Yes but he won because we don't have popular vote for very specific and seemingly long forgotten reasons. Read the federalist articles.",
"by the way, you may be delusional, because flynn and manafort *flipped*, meaning mueller seems to thing they can testify against a bigger fish....\n\nhis 15 yr old taxes, lying to the feds *are not* the target. it’s used as leverage to make them sing about something and someone else.\n\nthe fact they got the deal means they have something to give.\n\nbut attacking mueller does not at alllllll show how puckered up those trumpoid asses are. no lenght of you acting coy or trolling will make anyone believe you guys are convinced of your alternate reality.",
"My labor goes to myself, the shareholders, reinvestment (the company/other employees), and to pay dot the costs of all that is necessary to run the business (other businesses/other employees). Shareholders do not just sit around taking profit all day. Thay would be stupid. The most critical shareholders actively invest and do have sway in hoe a company operates through choices of managers. I so not know why you hate this system as it is not inherently evil. The good thay has come from capitalism is undeniable. Do you enjoy reddit? Go fire up Soviet reddit. What, you say it doesn't exist, okay, go fire up Soviet Tesla. Shit, you can't find it. That's okay, you can go live in China, and maybe be lucky enough to get a job at a work camp building phones all day. Or, try something different, move to Uganda because I hear their economic system is to die for. Don't try to go to the Northern European hypocrite states that live off oil sales and cry in their fish plates over the waste inherent in a campfire. This world is full of hypocrisy, but if you are going to present a problem, come with a solution. I have a solution for you. Work hard, do right, and good things will happen.",
"We should prioritize people based on what they're going to earn now, what they're going to earn in ten years, what their children are going to earn, and what their children's children are going to earn. Not to mention all of the cultural stuff. You have no long term vision.",
"I’m not part of any group. Who the hell are you to try and package my political opinion. ",
"Or the truth. There's a banging economy out there, even though he's a dweeb, I'm better off. So. I could care less if he calls a shit hole country a shit hole. ",
"A. Ted Cruz has already put forward a bill to make them permanent.\n\nB. If Cruz's bill goes down this issue will be part of Trump's 2020 re-election campaign.",
"really you don't know the difference? snowflake can only be used as an insult, the words you wrote as \"insults\" thrown by the left have been many times been justifiably used to describe people based on the hate or ignorance they spew. Are the words incorrectly or overused by the left, quite often yes. But just as often I see the ducks quaking from the right. ",
"First, you're clearly a bigot for wanting to target certain religions in immigration reform. No point in talking further.\n\nBut I've got to rant since you single out Islam. Christianity in the US has been so great, with all the women who died getting back-alley abortions before they were legalized, and homosexuals who got beaten in the US and could legally be discriminated against.\n\nNot to mention Christianity in Uganda, where gays are jailed, killed, and tortured. \n\nAlso not the mention the financial drain religion takes on the world - all those churches operating tax free while they shakedown their members every week. Vatican City is technically it's own country even. Then the televangelists that are blatant scams duping people in plain sight.\n\nThis is off topic for our conversation of course, I just find it hypocritical to single out any one religion as being a sham without at least mentioning the whole system.\n\nYou can point to really heinous shit that has been done in the name of Islam too of course, but that doesn't represent all Muslims. They have earned a place in our society. Muslims have been a part of the US since even before the revolution.",
"\"snowflake can only be used as an insult\". yeah ok bud. but when you think somebody cant say something because it hurts your feelings, you are a snowflake. not an insult",
"I'm not even talking about earnings, I'm talking about growing the entire country's GDP. They do that by being consumers as well, and providing services, even low-wage labor.\n\nAnd how can you say I have no longterm vision when you literally said we should ignore the impact their families will have 10 years later? Lol\n\nI don't understand your mention of culture. Muslim culture has been part of the US since before the revolution:\n\n1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_in_the_United_States_military\n\n\n 2) https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-is-so-very-wrong-to-target-mosques-they-are-part-of-the-fabric-of-america/",
"i mean there is a trend...",
"when has anyone said they can believe whatever they want?\n\non a side note, no one should believe what they want. everyone should do their due diligence and research and be open to a differing opinion.",
"USA today. If they get any more left leaning they'd fall over. Here you go. http://fortune.com/2016/09/30/donald-trump-stiff-contractors/\n\nYoutube. Sure he's not the greatest speaker. Doesn't make him an idiot. Plus if he's such an idiot how did he manage to win the presidency? After all, the polls had Hillary at like 98% or something. Right?",
"you are trolling me, right? This was a waste of time.",
"That’s simply not true.",
"Yeah, luckily she didn’t win though.",
"How is he racist?",
"Voter fraud didn’t help.",
"The fact that US law makes it easy to Trump to stiff contractors doesn't mean that systematically stiffing contractors doesn't make him a terrible person.\n\n\"If he's an idiot then how did he win the presidency\" is a non-argument. There's no IQ test to run for president. It seems to me that in the right circumstances an idiot could win.\n\nI didn't see any poll with 98% certainty, although there may well have been. Most I saw said Hillary had about an 80-90% chance of winning. But that doesn't somehow prove Trump is smart. Just listen to him speak off-the-cuff, he constantly sounds like a kid giving an oral presentation about a book he hasn't read.",
"Lol. They are all or nothing to you huh? \n\nAll black people are this way.\n\nAll Muslims are this way.\n\nAll Clinton supporters are this way.\n\nAll Trump supporters are this way.\n\nBox em up, insult then, write them off and keep that divide widening.\n\nNobody is saying you have to be extra nice to them, but trying to have a rational conversation with them instead of being some anonymous troll on the internet who can only \"Trumpers am dum amirite?\" isn't going to do anything other than solidify why they will never join in a rational conversation.\n\nNow I know. You're going belch out that they never would join you in a rational conversation, but again, I'll just point to the fact that you typing your little insults from your corner of the internet does fuck all in helping the situation.",
"I think your comment is ironic, since I am guessing you are a liberal",
"Do you go to school still? If not then how the hell are you saying that people are being indoctrinated with Marxism there. Throughout all of my years of schooling only one class even talked about Marx and every other class never mentioned socialism. Where are your ideas even coming from?\n\nDo you think we just show up to math class and get told today we are going to learn trigonometry. Sine of 0 degrees is equal to 0 just like he number of flaws with Karl marx's ideology. Cosine of 0 is equal to 1 just like the probability that the proletariat will overthrow the bourgeois.",
"You are trying to deflect from Trumps comments about climate change being a Chinese Hoax by bringing up the Paris Agreement. Good effort. ",
"Eh I'm sure there are Trump-leaners circa 2016 who didn't vote too.",
"Russia is NOT a communist country, how can you be this ignorant? ",
"That’s not really the point. The point is that the voting power of those who think their voting power isn’t worth anything is ironically potentially very strong ",
"you laugh to keep from crying because you know its true:)",
">I don't call everyone who disagrees with me an idiot, but I do to people that pontificate about things they don't know shit about.\n\n>As for economics... Let's look at Kansas (recently) Or the Great Depression (not so recently) for textbook examples of trickledown gone wild.\n\nThe irony here is palpable. You just pointed to two events, drool spilling out the side of your mouth, and said, \"LOOKSY HERE!11\" to \"prove\" your point about a ridiculously complicated subject. I mean, you're just like 99.9% of the population in that you don't even know how to address the fact that *even in a down economy*, we can't ever know if policy was \"bad\" since we can't know that the down economy wouldn't have been *more* down without said policy. There's a giant fucking hole in your argument and I barely had to try.\n\nAs for climate change, you're only refuting the easy target in straight-up climate change denial. The far more important and reasonable adversary is the person who believes climate change is man-made, but that it's not as important to invest in as other, more pressing matters. Once again, highly complex issues often do not have knowable answers. You're willfully ignorant and full of hubris if you think your stance is correct. Put simply, I'm woke and you are not.",
"Literally saying 'Trump supporters are dumb hurr durr I'm really smart'\n\nI see /r/politics has turned into Hillary/DNC subreddit, okay, cunts :)",
"It's very, very rare to come across someone who is able to see econ for what it is. Pretty safe to assume a rando on reddit replying to a heavily downvoted Trump comment is going to be spouting their own pro-Obama rhetoric. Apologies if you weren't being a sheep.",
"I think you mean the shithole",
"Niece shit on trump as per usual because the SJWS never got their way well boo who it was a democratic vote he won instead of crying try to improve your country ",
"Well, Republicans who supported it changed course because their constituents suddenly rose up against it, flooding inboxes and congressional office phones with complaints. The politicians were not in control – it was a populist uprising.",
"But we haven't always had the same two parties. The Federalists, the Democratic-Republicans(totally different from the Democrats and the Republicans of today), and the Whigs all win a presidency. Hell, our fist president was an independent(though I think he was unopposed). ",
"https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/05/climate/trump-environment-rules-reversed.html\n\nThat was easy",
"Man I said something that wasn’t shareblue propaganda. I’m disappointed. You shills are all alike. ",
"They may be talented in some specific field, but if they look at Trump and say \"that man should be president\" that honestly seems as disqualifying to me as literally believing the story of Noah's Ark. \n\nI understand that some people believe it, but to me it's so obviously wrong that believing in it is categorical proof that someone is stupid. \n\nI didn't feel this way about Bush supporters. I looked at them and thought \"I disagree with them, but they're not all stupid\". Trump is different.",
"I wish blacks actually voted so we could have a pedo protector in charge.",
"MAGA you pussy libtards!!!",
"Agree. This happened during the GW Bush reign called the Bush Tax Cuts. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bush-tax-cuts.asp\n\nCongress, as they do, kicked the can down the road a couple of times but did eventually resend the cuts which raised taxes. They spun it to make it sound that the gov't couldn't keep the lights on they were so poor without our money.",
"Water (potentially) hydrates the body. ",
"Ignorance is strength. War is peace..",
"So when a new ceo steps in and suddenly the company turns record profits, it’s the old CEO who deserves credit?\n\nWhich planet are you living on? ",
"Nope, because I'm not a child with daddy issues.",
"Yeah what they really need to do is go sit on the floor to protest. Haha ",
"So when a new ceo steps in and suddenly the company turns record profits, it’s the old CEO who deserves credit?\n\nWhich planet are you living on? ",
"His concern is almost certainly of economic origin. If you ask me, he's a bit too concerned with economics. But I don't see a racial motivation behind this comment. ",
"Well he also posted on the runescape subreddit so I guess that's real dedication on his part if he is in fact some sort of troll/agenda account. ",
"Look, I wasn't doing this as a defense of Clinton, or trying to say that she wouldn't be a poor and harmful president. I was giving you an example of a mindset that would encourage someone to vote for a candidate that they think of as a criminal.",
"So much job creation though. Let’s see what the president can actually do now that his fiscal year has been started. Most of the growth he’s being credited for is due to the previous administration - at least the last few years of it, just like the market crash of ‘08 is because of whatever the bush administration did prior to that. (Not really sure what happened. Let me know if you do please!) Thanks. ",
"You don't have to believe you're political beliefs are the be all end all to call someone an idiot.\n\nFor example I'm not entirely sure if I agree with how student loans in the UK work. However if someone thinks a border wall is a good idea to keep out Mexican rapists then I'm still going to call them a fucking idiot. ",
"You talk about ignorance in the left wing when your whole comment was full of ignorance... Maybe it's easier to see just how fucked up Trump is if you don't have to live under his power. i.e. I live in Canada.",
"Part of me feels like you don't even know how to play the stock market. Come back when you lose your job.",
"Feel free to do it! Get mad, but use that anger in a positive way",
"doesnt matter what u are it's what he is 😍",
"Ahhh, yes, another thread for Trump supporters to ruin their comment karma! Splendid.",
"They swing the way voting works to give sparsely populated areas more voting power. I think he was making a joke about that (more land per person = more power).\n\nThis is to stop politicians ignoring sparsely populated areas and trying to grab votes in only the dense areas where they can reach more people. However a lot of people thinks that's stupid since you're vote should mean the same despite location. ",
"Not savy, everyone knows how he clintons are the shittiest human beings on the planet. They are the Harvey Weinstein of DC.everybody knows, nobody does anything. ",
"The majority of the people that voted for Trump were in redneck states and ironically enough the majority of people that supported Hillary were \"hippies* per-se and didn't even vote. Maybe that's where racism won idk.",
"Do you not get it, or are you intentionally dense? Statements like this is the exact thing I'm talking about! Your divisive petulant attitude is something the world could do without",
"You can not be a Democrat supporter and still think that Trumps shit.\n\nHell you could have voted for Trump and still think that he's shit, and maybe you just voted for him because you think he's less shit than the opposition. \n\nThere's more than one \"side\" here, it's just the vast majority of the planet are pretty certain he's shit. ",
"Chris Stevens. Sean smith, glen Doherty, and Tyrone woods. She murdered them in the same way Kennedy murdered that Mary jo kopechne ",
"Any one who will shoot at each other. You think this current climate will just go away? Oh you think the left will just take back over soon and it will all be ok. ",
"That's the point. Trump didn't say \"we need more white people in America.\" His comment was much closer to: \"Why are we importing immigrants form #163 on the HDI when we can import #1. It's much better for the economy.\" Is that really such an absurd opinon? ",
"Rudie wouldn't know irony if it fucked his family and burnt his house down",
"I missed the part where they said they outnumber everyone",
"My index funds are up almost 20% from Q2 2017... I love it ",
"When counter arguments devolve into hurling insults and flinging shit at each other instead of respectful debate I find that an issue",
"And people won't debate you just downvote because your a \"troll\" in their eyes, keep trying to debate, when they refuse to address your argument they have lost it",
"\"That money would just line up their politicians pockets and they wouldn't do shit with it. They are too corrupt to function\"\n\nHow people don't see this is hard to understand. The Paris Agreement was so ridiculous and anyone who says otherwise has no clue what was in it. ",
"Honestly 20% is a damn dream come true. Grats my friend.",
"Why did you have to fuck your comment up right at the end.\n\nYou talk about being respectful when somebody challenges your world view then come out with tired shit like white nationalism. You come off as really disingenuous.\n\nIf Daryl Davis can convert a football teams worth of actual klansmen and you can't even debate them your just hurting your cause",
">Not judging people for their opinions is how we got here. My policy is to be respectful of all reasonable opinions, especially those I disagree with\n\n\nYeah sure mate",
"May the Reddit liberal circle jerk commense",
"MORE LIKE HE'S A SHIT HOLE XDXDXDXD",
"Your typical SJW meeting or Democratic convention.",
">Justice for all vs. Donald trump.\n\nThis is the divisive shit we are arguing against you fucking ding dong",
"It doesn't matter what the parties are. You have only TWO groups, at almost all times in US history. Think about that. Why just two? \n\nWhy not five? Or ten?\n\nWhy would a group of wealthy men think it wise to limit the number of viable parties to two by structuring the rules around majorities this way? ",
"I did. Third party. Democratic leadership needs to know they have to be a little more convincing in their act if they want to earn my collusion.",
"Lol, that’s your response?\n\nWhat a pathetic waste of time. \n\nGuess I should stop expecting logical analysis and critical thinking from people who vote for Trump. \n\nOr maybe you know that you are wrong, but don’t want to admit it? \n\nSounds more like the latter. ",
"No, it's not. Because there are only two choices. They can powerfully sway the vote for one or the other. But who cares....Both parties will always represent special interest groups and donors before they represent voters. This is like getting excited that your hamster wheel can turn in both directions.",
"Yeah, calling out people will do *so* much. You are being very ironic. \n\nYou preach about having the ability to rationally and peacefully discuss with people who differ in opinions in your other comments, yet you are here not attempting to persuade me or discuss with me at all. \n\nIf you say you want to help, then do something about it. Stating that you are helping by pointing me out does not contribute or help anybody nor anything whatsoever.\n\nlol.",
"Poor child. ",
"There are absolutely ideas that are just plain stupid, so it is not just an insult. Sticking a knife into an electrical outlet is stupid. Investing all of your money into Bitcoin is stupid.\n\nIt is not always easy to determine if someone is implying something, and by definition it is your interpretation of someone else's words that you are finding offensive. We've all done and said plenty of stupid things in our lives, but we're not all stupid ourselves.\n\nThere are certainly more black and white cases of implication, though. \"What kind of an idiot would think that\" is quite strongly implying that you are an idiot, but simply judging the idea itself remains open to interpretation. If what you say is true then it is impossible for me to say anything negative about your ideas without also implying you are stupid. That is stupid ;)",
"Yeah this wasn't a public statement. \n\nAnd hes Not the president of haiti",
"Um... So if You made shit up to make it racist? Then yes. Yes it would be racist. ",
"Lol. Some did. Some didnt. Weird that youre incapable of a nuanced opinion . almost like your bias has made you unreasonable. \n\nHow bout this, you ALL support Clinton who is a rapist enabler. \n\nRapist supporter!",
"You are cancer",
"That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard from someone purposely trying to slam conservatives. I'm sorry you've never had your thoughts questioned before and you have to make something up.",
"I get so sick of comments like this. It's ignorant. ",
"The majority of the US voted for Hillary Clinton. You are wrong. http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/21/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote-final-count/index.html",
"No, I was pointing out that it's clearly more complicated than you think. ",
"Why are you such an asshole to someone who's clearly trying to be a good person and good American?",
"If you look at any of the comments I made in this thread, I never resorted to personal insults, unlike you.",
"> But they will pass.\n\nNo they won't. Their population is on an indefinite downward spiral. Their net birth rate has been negative for decades. They're opening up to immigration too as otherwise their economy and society is going to slowly collapse. ",
"You don't become the leader of the free world by being an idiot.",
"I'm trolling you? When you're literally saying \"when the left does it it's not an insult but when the right does it it's an insult\"? That's 5th grader logic",
"True, although I would argue that inequality beyond a certain point is bad. Our economy is driven by demand. If consumers are cash poor then demand is low. It doesn't matter if wealthy people have cash to invest. If there's no potential for growth, they will invest outside the country, or put their money into subprime loans, ect.",
"No Trump supporter or conservative has ever considered free state school a good idea. Not one, and if they did they aren't conservative. That's absurd. \n\nHis comment is a template. It's a lie. Lol. ",
"The regressive left are pretty fucking dumb if you want to debate and I'm neutral",
"How about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?",
"Because they're not used accordingly bud. The VAST majority of Trump supporters are not any of those. Yet the vast majority is labeled as least one of those.",
"The fact we didn't vote that Orange man child into office is enough proof. ",
"I like that place. Now I’m a believer.",
"Man, I *really* hate that talking point. \n\nFirst it assumes capital gains is only for the rich, when it actually is for pretty much any retired person with a 401K.\n\nSecond the only reason the tax cuts weren't made permanent is because not a *single* democrat senator out of 49 (let alone the 9 needed) voted for for them to be permanent.",
"Lol, racism doesn’t take one, monolithic form. If affects every group differently. It’s not always economic or social or political. \n\nFor black people, it’s always been economic and social. \n\nFor parts of US history, Asians suffered racism through economics. For other parts, they felt it socially. \n\n",
"Pac-a-Man Anal",
"https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbbl_a.htm\n\nhttps://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production\n\nhttps://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/25/cost-of-solar-power-vs-cost-of-wind-power-coal-nuclear-natural-gas/\n\nRead it and weep, bitch. I'm sure these facts will change your mind, right?",
"Better an orange man child then a deranged psychopath who should be in jail who's had more people killed then many dictators and gotten more people killed by the information she compromised \"accidentally\" ",
"Right. Im clearly triggered. And not just mocking you. ",
"> There's a small problem with your theory. She's being protected by \"high level law enforcement\" huh?\n\nMaybe you aren't familiar with how the tense of a verb indicates time. I didn't say she *is* being protected, I said she *was* being protected. There's enough evidence of the efforts to keep her from being properly scrutinized available even in liberal publications like *The New York Times* that it would be disingenuous to argue that it wasn't happening. It has since been exposed, and the people responsible have been moved and/or demoted.",
"If it was actually a priority it would have been a permanent part of the original bill. Hate to break it to you but corporations and the rich were deemed more important than you.\n\nAnd your second point is just wishful thinking.",
"You clearly are. \n\n> Active in r/t_d\n\nShocker.",
"I see what you're saying here, but what if I specifically chose all the black households and said they are all shitholes. Wouldn't that be racist?",
"> is moronic is ignorance or intellectual dishonesty.\n\nProjection, ladies and gentlemen. ",
"Don’t Republicans want fewer regulations on business? How does “government let this happen” work as an argument against him being a shady businessman (aka conman)?",
"Don’t Republicans want fewer regulations on business? How does “government let this happen” work as an argument against him being a shady businessman (aka conman)?",
"You guys/girls/etc talk about generalization, whilst embodying the same opinion on a massive scale. ",
"Weird, most people disagree with you on subs other than the_dipshit or conspiracy.",
"\"There was, like totally, no collusion. You can ask anyone, no collusion. Absolutely none. And I'm the best at avoiding collusion.\"",
"> these are **all** major accomplishments.\n\nSo you didn't read the article you linked? Or just couldn't comprehend it? Some of the \"acomplishments\" you and \"millions of people\" support go directly *against* climate change prevention.\n\nI don't have time for people who aren't going to give 2 fucks and read the shit you link instead of just googling \"Donald Turmp great president stories\" and linking the first thing you see.\n\nDenying climate change is going against science so it's a pretty good indicator of whether someone is fit for office imo. Not just because of the huge potential impact on the human species, but also because it's indicative of being a complete fucking idiot.",
"This guy WashPost’s",
"Have you ever seen him get questioned about it? The way he reacts is my evidence enough. ",
"Lol. Its ok snowflake. I know all the losing is hard on your delicate psyche.\n\nHey enjoy those tax breaks yeah?",
"Finally a comment that makes sense, and gets downvoted to hell. Oh, you don’t like trump? Nice, I respect your opinion. This is why he got elected. Reddit is propaganda now. ",
"Thank you for articulating a convincing counterargument to the best of your ability. ",
"You could literally block all the parts of reddit that you don't like. Yet here you are because you like it....",
"And you’re replying to a comment that I made hours ago. Dude you seriously need to get a life",
"It would be, intentionally singling out a race for the purpose of derogatory remarks is racist. In order to make that statement you'd have to specifically look for black houses even though white ones could be equally bad or worse.",
"Didn't carrier just announce those jobs are moving to Mexico? But at least Pence provided them taxpayer $$ before he ditched Indiana.\n\nhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-biz-comment-trump-carrier-jobs-20171130-story.html\n\nhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-carrier-offshoring-jobs_us_5a1f6f97e4b0a8581e67e62e\n\nhttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/12/17/remember_those_carrier_jobs_trump_saved_neither_does_he__135809.html\n\nhttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/01/12/wish-i-voted-sanders-says-laid-carrier-worker-duped-con-man-trump\n\ntake a look at that last link. Trumpgret is real and growing.",
"How does s moron beat all the professional politicians then? He was outspent 2:1, had the media against him, had his own party against him and was given no chance. Then he beat the shit out of Hillary.\n\nIf you think Trump is stupid you quite simply can't see what's happening before your eyes. That's fine, in fact it's great that you all think he's a moron because it will make his reelection trivial.",
"It's called a comment section... are you that upset someone told you to block the subreddit you don't like?\n\n\n Chill out. Dude.",
"Lol it's common sense. I can see why it eludes you.",
"I agree. So it's just a coincidence he called Haiti and African nations the shitholes? ",
"Deficit exploded under Bush as well. Republicans like to give lip service to the deficit, but whenever they're in power it rises. ",
"Not going to argue against that. ",
"All presidents are voted in by electoral college. Its by state, and if you look at it that way he won the popular vote in like 30ish states. Some of the places in the US with the highest populations vote democratic, which is why he \"lost the popular vote\" by the total voting population.",
"Yeah, my 401k grew nicely under Obama, too. Would've been the same under Hillary, with the added bonus of her actually being competent in the position rather than a daily embarrassment.",
"It's only a \"dumping ground for r/politics\" when it's convenient to complain about. Look at the r/pics front page.",
"Essentially, yes. You look at any major statistic, among lowest income per person, highest murder rates, infant mortality, disease, and corruption.\n\nTheir governments can't support their own people and they don't have the resources to learn to keep themselves safe from disease. They are, very much defineably, shitholes.",
"I guess this is something we just aren't going to agree on. It really sucks our President has resigned America's role as a world leader. ",
"About half the population voted, and less than half of that group (voters) voted for Trump.",
"I’m saying that the bumper sticker can apply to Democrats as well as Republicans. The photo would be equally as funny if the sticker was Hillary Clinton sticker. ",
"Look at the numbers on regulations since he's been in. They've been drastically cut. I'm not saying everything he ever did was great, or even the right thing to do. But he's done nothing but deliver on promises made to us during his campaign.n",
"It's so silly that you think this is ironic just because that's your perspective and your political views.",
"> what does that make all of ya'll?\n\nWell I guess it points out politics isn't a battle of wits, that's for sure.",
"[You called?](https://media.giphy.com/media/3oFzmfLbZn3eY7spmU/giphy.gif)",
"The popular vote isn't what determines a direct democracy. In a direct democracy the population decides pretty much everything rather than just having representatives. No sovereign nation is one. Though some come a little closer than others. ",
"Forced labor.",
"Wait, what sentence is that?",
"Lmao at how fast you got triggered. Never gets old (or any less fun).",
"How? He's a racist, bigoted, fascist, homophobic, lunatic who's only known for having a TV show, who's fascinated with turning America into Nazi Germany. The man literally just called Africa a shit hole, in addition to bragging about sexually assaulting women. So please, tell me how he's better? ",
"All I’m saying is that to most moderates, it looks like you are the reason why people voted for trump, because they’re tired of some no name loser on the internet telling them how to live their lives because they are so much better then them. If you want to have a debate, drop the smug attitude and make some points.",
"For those that might feel that way, it's understandable when you take into account the skew of media bias being over 95% negative coverage for this president. If people all around you have a common opinion then eventually you may begin to think like the others. There's a term in Psychology for this phenomenon but I don't care enough to look it up for you. Fact is, President Trump's base is Rock Solid and statistics do not show what you're saying on a large-scale.",
"That's just your opinion as far as I can tell. ",
"r/pics has gone to shit with this liberal bullshit. And yes, you're stupid if you're on the side which says there are more than two genders. ",
"What I got from this is cognitive dissonance kicked in because someone successfully used the points you normally use against you, you had a good cry, then a few hours later you went with the tired \"lol triggered\" talking point after discussing it with one of your alt-right buddies.",
"Because a lot of people are tired of the Left’s smug attitude, and love to see them meltdown because they lost something. It’s basically the same Catharsis you feel from that one scene in South Park where Eric is taunting Stan to fight him, to which Stan promptly slaps him, making him cry like the spoiled child he is. People don’t want Civil War, they just love the fact that spoiled children are crying because they didn’t get their way. ",
"Ah the 'how bout,' an estranged cousin to the famous 'what about.' \n\n[The History of Whataboutism](http://www.economist.com/node/10598774) \n\nIronic where it originated from, no?",
"Nah man. I rarely go to the r/pics sub. Most of the time this sub makes it to my front page it’s political/ trump bashing. ",
"Correct. And when health care costs explode through the roof because we removed a large amount of money coming in from the rich, most of the voters won't know how or why it happened.\n\nThe experts will have evidence that it was when Trump removed this cash flow. But the Republicans of the future probably wont have time for experts like they do now. Nor will their supporters.\n\nRinse, wash, repeat until we're the minorities and refugees and then we're begging Europe or China to let us in.",
"Not taking a side either way, but you are totally wrong. The communist party in Russia is a joke, they get a lower percentage of the vote than communist parties in the West like Canada, US or UK. Putin is about as far from communism as you can get and Russia (unlike China or Cuba) never claimed to be communist even during USSR, it was a socialist republic trying to establish communism and never claimed to achieve it up to the point that it fell apart.",
"This is r/thedonald in a nut shell",
"How’s that terrible free healthcare going for you? How about that SJW treadeu?",
"You need your safe space snowflake??",
"Irony? I'd call that self awareness.\n\nSource: also voted for Trump",
"How is any of that opinion? Their negative birth rate and their economic decline are facts you can google. Are you even capable of rational thought?",
"\"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups\"\n\nNo one underestimated Democrats. We've known how racist and ignorant you were since the 1860's. However, how about that economy that is tanking like you uneducated racist, xenophobic, baby killers predicted?\n\nJust stop talking. Every time a Democrat talks it makes a fool out of itself.",
"Wait, you literally think this is fake news?",
"It's already a Shit hole. ",
"Because it's a crap post, full of democrats. Lies, misdirection, and echochamber pudd pulling is all you will get.",
"Ironic? Seems like just good self awareness.",
"I spoke of the last sentance that you for some reason chose to ignore. Don't be a buffoon.",
"I thought that was a left thing, ya know college kids",
"> Second the only reason the tax cuts weren't made permanent is because not a single democrat senator out of 49 (let alone the 9 needed) voted for for them to be permanent.\n\nThe reason the middle class tax cuts weren't made permanent is because the bill has a hard spending cap and the cut for corporations was deemed more important. They could have easily made the middle class cuts permanent and the corporation tax cut temporary and would have needed the same number of votes to pass it. But they didn't do that, did they?\n \nThe Democrats had no part in writing this bill and weren't even invited to look at it while it was being drafted. Anything to pass the buck and blame Democrats for a bill written exclusively by Republicans though, huh?",
"LOL you don’t get it. He knows he’s stupid and is rallying his troops. He’s such a joker. ",
"> I mean, you're just like 99.9% of the population in that you don't even know how to address the fact that *even in a down economy*, we can't ever know if policy was \"bad\" since we can't know that the down economy wouldn't have been *more* down without said policy. There's a giant fucking hole in your argument and I barely had to try.\n\nOh look, a variation of the \"we can't run controlled experiments in economics so we'll never know anything\". Cool story. \n\n>As for climate change, you're only refuting the easy target in straight-up climate change denial. The far more important and reasonable adversary is the person who believes climate change is man-made, but that it's not as important to invest in as other, more pressing matters. \n\nThe person who thinks that climate change isn't man made and the straight up denial are about the same level of idiot. One has just progressed further along the stages of climate change denial.\n\nhttps://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/sep/16/climate-change-contrarians-5-stages-denial\n\n> Once again, highly complex issues often do not have knowable answers.\n\nNobody knows because it's complex, eh? You sound like a fucking fool.\n\n> You're willfully ignorant and full of hubris if you think your stance is correct. Put simply, I'm woke and you are not.\n\nOh look, projection.",
"Yeah if it wasn't for the left pushing Hillary we wouldn't have Trump, to me the recent election, and the process leading to it shows how arrogant, and muh side is best type of people. ",
"Lol nice talking points “alt right buddies” lmao.\n\nNo, I’m just not a guy that wears a vagina for a hat.. like u.",
"I'll remove that section. Thanks. ",
"Agreed. Bannon should start his own social media program with his new free time. No liberals will be allowed. ",
"Obviously, the sticker is referring to libtards - the ones that believe in 52 different genders!!!",
"Yes. I am objectively smarter than any electoral who voted for Trump. Even someone who is bound by oath to vote the way that they did is stupid if it means voting for Trump.",
"I always knew trump was gunna be a bad president! There's just something about him! Im glad everyone's realising! ",
"That's not an opinion either. Look up \"Japan opening up immigration\". And the very last one is not an opinion either. Again their economy is slowly collapsing, and so is their society because their birth rate is negative. Use your brain. ",
"Your home in America is shit. I know that because it's America. \n\nHow is that not insulting that nation? Are you really not getting this?",
"If your referring to the 137 “economists” that approved of it, then you need to re think your definition of majority. Not to mention there is doubt they are all economists and could easily be hand picked. Otherwise prove it, because I don’t believe that’s true. ",
"It is a quantifiable fact. You can google it but you don't want to know. ",
"There is nothing much more to tell you. Your opinion is different from mine, I believe I am right and I believe you are missing what's right in front of your nose. \n\nI don't really care to put anymore effort into a defense. We both know you're not a professional trader. ",
"Lol",
"Most people have lost faith in mainstream news since for so long they focused on so much minutia and tried to play up every tiny, irrelecent, minuscule action that when major things do happen, the credibility is doubted.",
"Just got my first paycheck in 2018 and my federal taxes are down $100/month. $1200/year in my pocket. Yeah, I’m cool with that.",
"I like how some \"people\" use quotes around words to make them seem more \"important.\"",
">weren't even invited to look at it\n\n...Really? It was super secret? They don't get the option to look at it even while it's being voted on? *Are you sure about that?* You're telling me elected officials had no part in writing the bill, and didn't want to have any input on it? This somehow absolves them of responsibility? \n\nI'm not passing the buck when I think the tax bill is beneficial. I will say that democrat senators didn't do enough. I think the limitation of Byrd's Rule, from Robert Byrd (D), is a shame in this case. I understand the cap, and I think both cuts should be made permanent. \n\nYou understand that businesses need less volatility than individuals? That corporate taxes don't just affect big corporations, right? Small businesses are also corporations? Small businesses owned by the middle class? \n\nIt's incredibly disingenuous to pretend that the corporate cuts are \"rich people\" cuts. ",
"19.5 percent of rosfnet sold to parties unknown",
"I bet you're a white man over the age of 30 aren't you? You share the same piss poor narcisism that our president does. Ultimately it will be his downfall and quite frankly I can't wait till it happens so I can LAUGH IN YOUR FACE. Even the strongest military in the country remains \"one\" country. If you get arrogant enough the rest will rise up against us. Get your head out of Drumpf's ass, stop being narcisitic, and join us at the adult's table when you've re-thought your previous statements.",
"Well since free speech also implies that you might have opposing views, Reddit, google, Facebook etc... have been kind enough to ban anything that opposes progressive views.\n\n",
"Or if you don't live in a swing state. Why vote D or R if your state is always majority R or D? ",
"Oh god, its retarded.",
"Can we get more pictures of text on this sub? ",
"Literally Hitler.\nOk.\n\nSo, being an asshole piece of shit nowadays is literally the same as committing genocide.\n\nSeems legit. ",
"This is hilarious, but this isn’t ironic it’s hypocritical.",
"Nobody said *just*. That’s your addition. But it’s absolutely implied when you think an idea is bad. There’s no getting around that.",
"One word: Bitcoin.\n",
"The top one is a magnet and might be a bit of r/mildlyvandalized action...",
"You know this is something you can check, right?\n\nS&P 500 Returns:\n\n* Obama Presidency (Jan 2009 to Jan 2016): 154%\n* Bush Presidency (Jan 2001 to Jan 2009): -32% (!!) \n\nAnd how about Trump? How does Obama's first year of market returns compare to Trumps?\n\n* 1/21/2009 - 1/13/2010 (Obama): 39.5%\n* 1/21/2017 - 1/13/2018 (Trump): 25.28%\n\nSeriously, check for yourself. Use this calculator here:\n\nhttps://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/\n",
"She got more illegal votes than Trump, that's all buddy.",
"Accepting criminal behavior is not trying to be a good American. ",
"You also never expanded on or clearly explained how he \"won mainly because of white supremacism\" and when called out on your generalizations and inferences just denied you making the claim. I don't support Trump but I don't support stupidity either. You're making wild claims based on nothing.",
"When I was a teenager we used to hang out with friends, play football, do stupid shit etc. Teenagers today have no friends and spend most of their time in their room spewing hate about Trump. It's quite sad to be completely honest.",
"Healthcare? Perfect, never paid a cent for the multiple surgeries I've had and I couldn't be happier. As for Trudeau? he's just another puppet in the political scheme trying to buy his way to a kick-ass pension. That being said he needs to focus on more pressing issues rather than focusing on feminism and burka bans. ",
"Trap it in a corner and then attack from all angles idk ",
"Ohhh I believe shit-golems are called excrementals! Thanks Dogma! ",
"Populist uprising my ass. Are you suggesting it had nothing to do with all the politicians talking about death panels and every other ridiculous claim they could make? \n\nI can pull up what they were saying about it for you. You couldn't be more full of shit if you were a septic tank. Republicans were found everything they could to tank support for the law.",
"You must be trolling because he's making perfect sense. You are the one not understanding anything. You aren't even trying to understand, you are just calling it mumbo jumbo, when you should be specifically pointing out the problems of his statement or the issues you have with it. That's how people talk about subjects.",
"I suppose you think it's normal that Hillary Clinton made a deal with the DNC to help it secure funding and in turn get to control all hiring and scheduling the DNC did?\n\nI suppose it's normal for the DNC to give questions in advanced to one candidate and not the other. Then claim they have the right to do so in court and state if they wanted, they could choose a candidate in a cigar smoke filled back room. \n\nI suppose it's normal when the DNC chair resigns in shame for helping to rig the process in favor of HRC she gets a job working for HRC within a week. Not cronyism at all.\n\nI suppose it's normal for 200k+ voters in Brooklyn to be ILLEGALLY purged so they can't vote in the primary, the city losing the lawsuit, and admitting they illegally purged them.\n\nThat all seems above board, no rigging going on. There is more evidence of the DNC rigging the primary then the goose chase with Russia but everyone likes to ignore it.",
"Under Obama we bombed seven different countries pretty regularly. He maintained the war for his entire 8 year tenure. First president to do so.\n\nSomebody dropped the ball. ",
"Okay.",
"I had to follow EPA regulations while in the oilfield. Like clean up oil spills that go on farmer's fields, build locations with spill protection, clean up hazardous soil and dispose of it properly, properly dispose of radioactive material. I'm not sure why you would want to get rid of any of these things. I don't want that shit in my backyard without some rules in case something bad happens. No one wants an oil filled river. It ruins the fishing.",
"Good for you, i got a $1,000 bonus from Comcast and then instantly laid off.",
" The economy and stock market is not opinion but fact. Rubute some of his claims or walk away from the debate as a loser! Sad!",
"No, it wouldn’t. Hilary lost, while everyone expected her to win. She wasn’t underestimated. I hate how centrist seem to think that ignoring differences and painting everything as the same is some kind of a wise enlightened thinking. ",
"Actually, I’m glad you mentioned Death Panels. The term itself was [coined by Sarah Palin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_panel), a *former* politician who had no official stake in the debate. If you follow the timeline, from there the myth spread through talk radio, then news outlets, then started being mentioned by legislators. It was a bottom-up rather than top-down phenomenon – aka populism.",
"Are you gonna post that on everyone’s comments who have a different opinion than you?",
"It was formerly a default subreddit for many years, which meant any new account created during that time (before defaults were scrapped) was automatically subscribed to it. ",
"> ...Really? It was super secret? They don't get the option to look at it even while it's being voted on? Are you sure about that? You're telling me elected officials had no part in writing the bill, and didn't want to have any input on it? This somehow absolves them of responsibility?\n\nYes? It was written exclusively by Republicans, with no input from any Democrats. They were still adding amendments to it hours before it was even voted on. Stuff was being written in the margins in pen.\n\nhttps://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/28/gop-tax-bill-secrecy-244253\n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/senate-vote-still-writing-tax-bill/index.html\n\nhttps://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/1/16726234/handwritten-republican-tax-bill\n\nhttps://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/tax-bill-2017/card/1513351085\n\nMaybe actually Google this shit before you just start spouting off about something you're obviously clueless about.\n\nNowhere in my post did I express the sentiment that corporations were the devil, so thanks for that fun little straw man. Just that they were deemed more important to get a permanent cut. \n\nYours are set to expire in ten years and I expect the GOP will only vote to extend them if they have a Republican in the White House so they can take credit for it.",
"You're an idiot if you don't recognize Republican politicians were working as hard as they possibly could to tank the legislation from day one.",
"Not weird. The owners of the media control it's content and they are a cabal. Very simple.",
"I believe that Donald Trump has handled Presidency pretty well and has lowered unemployment by a lot, downvote me please",
"Hyperbolic nonsense. How is the country getting screwed? lol",
"No one single President is ever responsible for the national debt. Yes, Obama added a lot to the debt. We were at war. The national debt ALWAYS increases during a war. We could blame Bush for that because he started the war, but it was a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. The economical relief, however, is because of Obama. \n\nEdit: Welcome to Reddit, where facts get downvotes, and logic is made up. ",
"The original [Tea Party marches](https://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/us/politics/16taxday.html) began well before there was ever any proposals on health care. [The group organized in 2008 from the ashes of Ron Paul's campaign](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement) and some wonderful astroturfing by the Republican party in lots of local communities.",
"Of course they were, but much of that was a reaction to the foaming-at-the-mouth constitute phone calls and emails they were receiving from folks who had been activated through the internet, chain emails, and talk radio.",
"\"Self awareness\"",
"Sorry for the wall of text, but I was actually typing it out for a different person and figured that it actually matched your comment better. I'd argue that I haven't \"stayed out of it\" at all. I was simply trying to make a point in my original comment that political parties are too simple-minded and fail to see the legitimate points of the other side. But here yah go, my slice of opinion on US politics.\n\nIn my opinion, Hillary was a hell of a lot more dangerous than Trump. She had a hidden agenda, and I guarantee you that she'd be working behind the scenes on it right now. The Clinton family are practically crime lords. They've literally stolen from the Clinton foundation and used the money for elections. She basically killed Burney Sander's chances at winning, and while I personally didn't care for his socialist agenda, I do know that a vast majority of the Democratic population supported him. Let's also explore the possibility that news journalist and political opponents suddenly becoming depressed and shooting themselves through the back of the head when they begin investigation on the Clinton family.\n\n\nI'm typing on mobile, so forgive me for the lack of indents and weird spacing. Now, I also have quite a few criticisms of Trump. First of all, he is an absolute knucklehead when it comes to well-constructed and helpful political statements. He's done little more than ruffle of feathers of various political leaders, and I feel that that's sabotaging his chances at actually getting what he wants done. Another big issue is how he's treated women, both in the past and now. I'm a bit wary of all the accusations, because of situations with various political figures essentially getting rape-sniped by paid women who tarnish their reputation as a politician. But I'm also not going to pretend that he hasn't probably sexually harassed quite a few women, as men with a lot of power usually do *cough cough* **Harvey Weinstein, Bill Clinton** *cough cough*.\n\n His plan for the wall is actually very feasible, and as a Texan I'm relieved it's going to cut down slightly on the number of illegal immigrants taking advantage of our welfare program. My state is suffering sorely because of all the crime and drug trafficking, and it's interesting to note that Democratic leaders completely ignore that little statistic when trying to deny his plan. Currently, I'm rolling my eyes at the \"shithole\" comment scandal, because it was a bad choice of words on his part, but is being blown completely out of proportion. All in all, I take pride in the fact that I actually researched my political candidates before criticizing the opposition. I'm appalled by how political parties in general basically eliminate the possibility of an individual getting any sort of work done in office without a hidden agenda, forced by his party backing. As a Christian, I believe there are things to be desired of Trump, and he fails to do them regularly, but he's the best we got, and we ought to be both critical and respectful of him.",
"We get the stuff cheap because we don’t tariff hardly anything, friend. That why you see Hondas and Kias all over this country but in all my time living in Japan/Italy/Pacific islands I never saw a Chevy truck, Harley motorcycle, or a Cadillac car. \n\nIndia loves Trump. Did you not see the the videos of them marching in the streets with Trump banners kissing his image? Did you not catch the whole state dinner China held for him in the Forbidden City? And what happened to the Russian collusion thing? Canada and Mexico have unfairly benefitted from NAFTA and are pissed that someone wants to renegotiate. That happens in geopolitics. Truth is, if everyone is happy with you you’ve become a doormat. \n\nWhat’s wrong with the UN steering clear? They have proven (since Libya) to be nothing more than a warmongering money sink IMO, and we have enough of that already.",
"What do mean \"come out with tired shit like white nationalism\"? I am referring to white nationalists who consider themselves white nationalists. What is the non-tired way in which I should refer to them?",
"it was a sarcastic response.. you missed the sarcasm.. 😶 ",
"Pretty sure the main post was pointing out the reddit habit of JUST calling ideas that they agree with stupid. See the picture in OP",
"The liberal propaganda in /pics lately has been so damn obvious. When half the top posts are anti trump bullshit you know it's some group pushing their views on Reddit. And the sheep soak it up and spew it right back out. ",
"Weird because every Trump supporter that I know in real life is at least one of those things.",
"I never said you cant call someone stupid, I said calling someone stupid isn't constructive criticism. ",
"Ok, you're an idiot. Have a nice day. Won't see any replies because I'm going to block you. I'm already at OSHA mandated idiot capacity in my life.",
"I'm sorry, but Donald Trump is the dumbest president in US history *by far* and if someone doesn't see that, they're probably dumb too, or just super racist. These people deserve to be called out for what they are.",
"Show me the proof beyond the reason of doubt that Hillary personally killed Seth Rich. I'll wait. Also while you're at it show me the pizzagate restaurant that doesn't have a basement where all these child sex things happened in the basement. I'll be here waiting for that, as well.\n",
"It may have been before any actual legislation was introduced, but Obamacare was already well underway by April. In March of 2009, Obama hosted his “health summit” where insurers, doctors, drug companies, and advocates could all put their two cents in. This was viewed by many as special interests run amok or cronyism and received quite a bit of negative press.\n\nIn any case, you’re not wrong that the tea party *began* as a taxpayer grievance/ ashes of Paul sort of thing, but it was Obamacare that mobilized the far larger and broader group later in the year. What may have began as a small, libertarian-ish sort of thing, ended-up a multi-headed beast with elements of working class populism, paleo-conservatism, and yes, some rather unsavory racial stuff as well. In many ways, you could say it was formation of a coalition that would eventually become Trump’s base.",
">Go ahead and quantify it or own up to you spouting shit.\n\nIf I gave a fuck, sure, I'd go ahead and dig up those year old news articles for you, but I don't really care.",
"Oh gee, really? He won because we have an electoral college?? I had no idea! Thank you for taking the time to inform little old me. I was so ignorant ",
"Will that show me a second time? ",
"Well, I didn't start with an ultrarich daddy, so there's that.",
"I mean that you advocate for actual argument to ideas until they pass your arbitrary mental line in the sand where you can just start to act like a dick head because you don't agree with them and can't articulate a rebuttal.\n\nThose white nationalist you're talking about are incredibly rare with the media trying to make out it's at epidemic levels",
"The irony is that the OP is the one who’s not to be underestimated!",
"While you didn't single out one person, you make snide remarks and blanket statements that you use to backhandedly insult groups of people based on their political beliefs ",
"And by every objective standard countries like Haiti are worse. \n\nInsulting? Sure. Accurate? Absolutely. Racist? Not even a little. \n\nRace =/= country does it? No. No it doesnt. \n\nSo what race are you offending by calling america a shithole? ",
"give the next retarded kid you meet 1000$ and watch what happens, then find a mirror.. 😶 ",
"Are they actually though or do you just think that? My guess would be the latter. ",
"\"News articles\" I'm not sure how new articles are going to quantify your statement. I'm looking for numbers and data which you should easily have to quantify a statement like that. It's almost like when someone makes an absurd claim they should be ready to prove it, not offended when asked to. Crazy notion, i know.",
"I have interacted, and continue to interact, with these folks at great length. I understand the difference you are referring to, and am respectful and understanding of those who merely harbor resentments of society as a whole, even when it manifests itself in unpleasant ways. The genuine white nationalist 'epidemic' is both not as bad as some media portray, but worse than you seem to think.",
">It's almost like when someone makes an absurd claim they should be ready to prove it, not offended when asked to.\n\nJust curious, but what exactly makes you think I'm offended?",
"Yeah like that whole net neutrality \"This is my representative\" thing where state/city subreddits with 2000 total subscribers somehow got 50,000 upvotes. And posts like that flooded the front page for a couple days without any intervention from the admins.\n\nThere was obviously a board somewhere that posted all the links and told everyone to go upvote them, because there's no way people found these posts organically.\n\nI supported net neutrality but this is exactly the sort of dishonest fake news that makes people hate the left side. The right side's fake news will always be found on fox news or breitbart so it's easy to avoid, while the left side shits all over the place.",
"He doesn’t *obviously* have anything. He’s an extremely terrible businessman. He’s ran multiple businesses into the ground and filed for Chapt. 11 bankruptcy six times because his businesses [“defaulted on interests to bond holders as his finances went into a tailspin”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-fact-checking-and-analysis-of-the-first-presidential-debate/fact-check-has-trump-declared-bankruptcy-four-or-six-times/).",
"We are talking about today, these poltergeists that maliciously hold minorities back don't exist. Their own personal doubt, peers underperforming, bad decisions are but a few reasons.\n\nMinorities especially blacks have so many organizations and government subsidies trying to help them.\n\nThe success of so many prolific African Americans should be enough evidence that the white man aren't undermining them.",
"Except the picture is calling *people* stupid...",
"I didn't say cultures decide the election, I just pointed out the logic that cultures are far more diverse over larger areas than just a shit load of people all living on top of each other. Like, duh? It's why we have the electoral system. ",
"I get it. When all that matters is your personal wealth growing, and you have absolutely no compassion for your fellow countryman, when you’re totally fine with a racist, sexual predator making a fool of our nation on the global stage, then sure, everything is fine. It’s really just about priorities I guess.",
"> But he's killing people because of net neutrality btw\n\nROFL. Controversial comments are the best. You can't pay people to be this stupid.",
"A man, a plan, a canal, Panama.",
"You have been lied to. You have been tricked.",
"*That's actually not true, but I understand that some people don't understand this (that's ok).*\n\n*Hillary Clinton would be objectively worse for the country, regardless of which direction people would want it to go socially. She would actively destroy everything.*\n\nSee how this level of condescension and arrogance gets you nowhere? Saying something is \"objectively\" good/bad when it's obviously not makes you a whiny child. You're just looking for reactions from people who you know disagree with you, and you're expecting reddit to back you up and give you upvotes so you can feel smug. Grow up.",
"You haven't quantified it, your general attitude in response to everyone asking you to or acting as if your time is valuable so you shouldn't have to. I suppose making wild claims is fine so long as I am a sanctimonious prick like yourself and my time is too valuable to prove it when asked.",
"Wow. I've never seen someone so confidently defeat their own argument in the process of making it.\n\nPulling yourself down by your own bootstraps: that's quite a feat. ",
"That's ironic coming from you.",
"You first said:\n\n>I'm referring to the fact that Trump overwhelmingly won voters who listed their primary concern in the election as \"changing society\"\n\nYou then said:\n\n>The advocacy groups which are triggered by the fact that the country is increasingly more diverse are [racist].\n\n\nThe implication is clear. ",
"You are stupid as fuck.",
"How about a cute mountain lion. \n\nSorry that was dumb.",
"> aying something is \"objectively\" good/bad when it's obviously not makes you a whiny child. \n\nTrump has repeatedly appointed *objectively* unqualified people who have hamstrung the agencies they're supposed to head. The easiest example is aggressively trying to scrub any information/research related to climate change. This is not a matter of opinion. \n\nWere these opinions, I would use 'subjectively,' but they're not. You can call me a whiny child for not pretending everything is perfect and fine all you want, but it doesn't change anything.\n\n Have you forgotten the senate hearing where one of his judge picks (I believe it was for a federal judge position) couldn't define basic legal terms?\n\nMany other countries feel they can no longer rely on the US. Trump has no leadership experience.\n\nThese are not opinions, these are facts. I'm not expecting upvotes, I'm telling the truth.",
"k",
"I enjoyed it!",
"I'm sure people were saying the same thing about the Nazis.",
">I got plenty laid in college- \"hope and change\" was gooooooood to me.\n\nLol\n\n>Sure, Marxist nations don't have a great track record, but capitalism is shit to everyone not in the ruling classes. It's feudalism without the honesty or decency.\n\nWhy then is the highest quality of life in the world overwhelmingly found in capitalist countries? Why is wealth so concentrated, preserved, and reliably created in capitalist countries? \n\nEven poor people in the West aren't poor like they are in other places in the world. \n\nI agree there are issues with capitalism. It's not a perfect system, it's just the best one we have right now. \n\n>I'm open to any other ideas, but I don't think Marxism should be the dirty word when the most prosperous nation in history can't figure out how to give its citizens basic fucking healthcare or a baseline quality of life.\n\nThere's quite a large gap between not having free healthcare and tens of millions of political prisoners executed in Gulags. Marxism reliably produces MORE poverty than capitalism and is almost always more murderous. You ignore these differences at your peril. ",
">Maybe actually Google this shit before you just start spouting off\n\nThat's a bit presumptive; it went through 2 or 3 iterations bouncing between house and senate. So the midnight thing happened, yes, but it had to *go back to the House*. I mean, you understand it was out for a week between amendments, right? That the senate passed, then the house passed it again, and then back to the senate it went. I may be incorrect to assume that in the two week span that this happened is too little time to review the whole bill, especially when that's your entire job as a lawmaker. I guess your memory is a little more selective than mine to disregard that particular time frame after it passed the senate with amendments. \n\nThat's not a strawman fallacy , because I never said that you thought they were the \"devil\", I merely pointed out why corporate tax breaks were a good thing. Your own logical fallacy is ambiguity and, ironically, a strawman of it's own. \n\n\nYou seem to be very against the bill being passed. \n\nYou seem against the corporate tax being permanent rather than the personal.\n\n\n**So is the tax cut a good thing or bad thing?**\n\nIf you think it's a bad thing, then we can agree to disagree. \n\nIf you think it's a good thing then you can agree that any amount of tax cut for the middle class is good, then why is the corporate tax cut being permanent a bad thing? \n\nIf you think that both should be permanent, then shouldn't we hold those in office responsible for not making it so? \n\nIt's not partisan to hold our elected officials to the will of the people, that's how our government should work.",
"oh, that's cool! Sorry for being an uneducated twat there. Thanks.",
"I’m not anti gun, but early last year congress passed a bill that allowed people with mental illnesses to acquire firearms.",
"For a short while. It's just elasticity built in to the system. If I took over as CEO of Microsoft today, I wouldn't be running my mouth about how awesome our profits will be in my first year. Everybody knows that set up for those profits was done last year. I wouldn't have been on board long enough to have changed anything with long term significance.",
"Racism. Turns out there were a lot of closet racists in this country.",
"> The easiest example is aggressively trying to scrub any information/research related to climate change. This is not a matter of opinion.\n\nMaybe that's because he believes the EPA has no business having that much regulatory power.\n\nAnd about this climate change issue, you keep talking like you have some objective moral high ground that no one can question. I bet you've never looked into the issue yourself. The best you can probably say is \"most scientists agree that climate change is real\" and you probably got that information from a comment on reddit and never actually looked at the information yourself.\n\nYou have to ask yourself some things...\n\n1.) How much of climate change is natural?\n\n2.) It used to be considered \"global cooling\" but now it's \"global warming\", so is it possible that these processes could reverse each other over time and that no action needs to be taken?\n\n2.) How much of climate change is caused by human beings?\n\n3.) To what extent would severely reducing our footprint reduce climate change as a whole (not just the part caused by humans)?\n\n4.) What are the costs and benefits of putting the environment over faster industrial progress?\n\n5.) To what extent will the United State's pro-environmental actions affect climate change, and will the advantages outweigh the disadvantages?\n\n6.) Given that renewable energy sources are often more efficient/cheaper sources of energy, is it possible that these environmental changes could come naturally? We've already made so much progress since the Industrial Revolution in this manner.\n\nSome people look at these things and think that serious actions need to be taken, and some people look at these things and don't think that action needs to be taken *right now*. Maybe they'd change their minds if these things became more certain, but right now there are quite a few variables.\n\nHow can you say that one opinion is \"objectively right\" when the factors that go into that opinion aren't even objective? It often involves weighing pros and cons, and people value things differently.\n\n**I'm not arguing for or against fighting climate change, I'm just demonstrating why the issue isn't as \"objective\" as you make it out to be.**",
"ergo it's not criticism, it's jut being a douche",
"Lol okay.",
"I'll consider that suggestion, thanks!",
"Glad because you speak for all Trump supporters and conservatives. Having political opinions isn't a binary. These types of comments are why this post was so popular.",
"You are cancer and you should be ashamed",
"You can't build a political party on identity politics. The left is the weakest it has ever been (thanks to obama, that's what he left the Left as when he exited office) and they need to recreate themselves. They expected the WH, senate, house and got blindsided. There's no way that it can be said that the left doesn't have a problem that needs to be addressed. Trump was elected because a large group felt unrepresented and talked down to. Tribalism in politics which did start as a leftist thing has ruined politics. It's now not important what your candidate says. Have principles \n\n",
"> I suppose you think it's **normal** that Hillary Clinton made a deal with the DNC to help it secure funding and in turn get to control all hiring and scheduling the DNC did?\n\nYes.\n\n>I suppose it's normal for the DNC to give questions in advanced to one candidate and not the other. Then claim they have the right to do so in court and state if they wanted, they could choose a candidate in a cigar smoke filled back room.\n\nYes. Welcome to the world.\n\n>I suppose it's normal when the DNC chair resigns in shame for helping to rig the process in favor of HRC\n\nVery normal. Standard practice in pretty much every industry.\n\n>she gets a job working for HRC within a week.\n\nWhat was the job?\n\n>Not **cronyism** at all.\n\nDo you know what that word means?\n\n>I suppose it's normal for 200k+ voters in Brooklyn to be ILLEGALLY purged so they can't vote in the primary, the city losing the lawsuit, and admitting they illegally purged them.\n\nNo it's not normal. It's illegal. But what's your point?\n\n>That all seems above board, no rigging going on.\n\nMy question was \"How *many* people rigged the primary against Bernie and in *what way*?\"\n\nYou answered the second part well enough, but not the first. I can maybe extrapolate a handful of people being involved in this situation.\n\nThe quote in the picture is referring to tens of millions of people.\n\nSo when you say \"I underestimated *them*\", you are incorrect.\n\nIf the quote in the picture said \"Never underestimate the power of powerful people\", you'd be right on the money.",
"Haha apparently",
"Sorted comments as controversial.\n\nWhat a ride. Thanks, Reddit. ",
"R.I.P. (me)",
"But why now? Surely it would be stupid/you're making shit up to do this ~after~ loads of investigation?",
"> If you think that both should be permanent, then shouldn't we hold those in office responsible for not making it so?\n\nWe can agree on this point. I just think it is disingenuous to fault Democrats for not voting for a bill they had no role in writing, particularly when the vast bulk of it is corporate tax cuts that they were not in support of. You can't then turn around and blame Democrats for not making middle class cuts permanent when that was never the primary focus of the bill; there were many amendments they disagreed with.",
">Oh look, a variation of the \"we can't run controlled experiments in economics so we'll never know anything\". Cool story.\n\nHow tf is this not valid? I honestly don't think humans are capable of knowing much about macroecon after studying it and spending hundreds of hours reading/listening/thinking about it. We won't know anything for a long time. The best we'll ever be able to do is via machine learning and it will undoubtedly be a black box solution. You're so ridiculously naive if you think otherwise. Like I said, full of hubris. I'm the one who is humble enough to know our limitations on the subject, and that's all I'm trying to point out in these comments. Unfortunately, most of the people replying seem to be too young + dumb to see how simple and true my argument is. *Economists themselves* will tell you this. The best ones are very good at saying \"I don't know.\"\n\n>The person who thinks that climate change isn't man made and the straight up denial are about the same level of idiot. One has just progressed further along the stages of climate change denial.\n\nReading comprehension fail. You misinterpreted my statement about climate change entirely. What you're talking about here has nothing to do with the point I made.\n\n> Nobody knows because it's complex, eh? You sound like a fucking fool.\n\nThe person who understands our limitations on complex issues is woke. The person who naively arrives at a solution and thinks it's gospel is the opposite of woke. You're the opposite of woke, mate.\n\n>Oh look, projection.\n\nHubris = excessive pride or self-confidence. Admitting we don't know enough about macroecon is literally the opposite of hubris. Yikes, bro.",
"Probably to get rid of incriminating evidence so Hillary can run for president again.",
"Ye",
"I personally doubt she'll run again. ",
"You feel yourself losing and it hurts lol ",
"That’s not how evidence works",
"Now that we’ve established that completely irrelevant point. I would like to return to the original comment I responded to. \n\nThere is no contradiction between believing people have the right to believe what they want and calling bad ideas stupid. \n\nThat’s quite literally all I said. ",
"✊🏻 ",
"You don't seem to understand. You have all the details you need, right? It's all done? Then why, when the government is now fully republican, has it not happened yet?\n\nOr is it still a present tense that she's in control of this \"deep state.\"\n\nIt means you're already fucked. Better rise up and take a gun to your nearest pizza place. ",
"That doesnt make much sense. \n\nAlso, pick a president who takes accountablity for his words and actions. I dont believe Trump has completely executed even one of his promises to his voters. No wall, higher taxes, and shit healthcare. To top it all off, inflation will hit us like a ton of bricks by the end of the decade. I hope he grows a pair by the end of his term",
"It isn't the use of private emails, but the handling of classified information. Intent has absolutely nothing to do with it for anyone who maintains a security clearance; they drill that into your head. Yet they let her off because she didn't intend to do it. Others HAVE been jailed for less.",
"I completely agree and sorry about how rude I was being earlier I was fairly sleep deprived. I also recognize that issues I care about such as privacy others don't and it doesn't make them wrong. Also that just because I hate the shrinking of the parks doesn't mean it won't benefit local farmers. Thank you for sharing your view point.",
"Only a Very Stable Genius could piece that one together!",
"Yeah it’s pretty amazing. But realistically. The whole upvote downvote thing is lost on me.",
"no, you said\n>whatever they want means nothing can ever be *criticized.*\n\nCriticism and calling a bad idea stupid are totally different things\n\nNow that you've pointed out that you believe the latter. I have no qualms in calling you a douche that just throws venom in the internet with no contribution to discussion or society in general. (because we've established that earlier) \n",
"Teachers have been getting fucked long before trump became POTUS. You are thee most underrated, underpaid profession in the entire world. Your service and inadequate compensation has never been lost on me.",
"Seems you learned quite a bit about me from just a few sentences. You’re good",
"Maybe if the US had a democratic vote for president then people would vote...?",
"Regret for burning his own career to the ground lol",
"Exactly. Which means the US isn't a democracy...",
"I'd like to see fewer opinionated bigots on both sides, personally.",
"> You can't pay people to be this stupid.\n\nRussia can!",
"Exactly. A democratic vote for leaders makes countries a democracy. Which is why the US is not a democracy but is in fact a representative constitutional republic.",
">blame Democrats for not making middle class cuts permanent \n\nOf course I can. It's a hypocritical statement to complain they're expiring when they are directly at fault for expiring. It was going to pass whether or not they voted on it. They alone, and nobody else, are responsible for the expiry, *because everyone else voted for it*. \n\nIf there were amendments they had askance with not a single congressman has come out against any specific one that I've heard.\n\nThere is a responsibility that comes with voting against something. To absolve them of that responsibility is not holding them accountable. Pointing out senate democrats voted against the tax bill, and are directly responsible for the expiry is me holding them to that hypocrisy. ",
"The polls said more people would vote Hilary. They were correct. It isn't the polls fault that the Electoral College decided to ignore that democratic vote.",
"> Which is obviously not the case.\n\nExcept for the fact that it is... Polls just say who will get more votes. You cannot have a democratic poll that accounts for an undemocratic system.",
"I won't sugarcoat it. I'm not here for the politics. I'm here for the *drama*. It's like a rhetorical ground war.",
"HAHAHAHA.....................HAHAHAHA",
"Better than voting for Trump.",
">inpeech\n\n-_-",
"It’s completely fair for the tax rate to increase as income increases. And only the money in the higher tax bracket gets taxed at a higher rate, so if the tax brackets are 25% from $0-150,000 and 50% from $150,001 -$1,000,000 then only $150,000 of your $300,000 income would be taxed at a higher rate, so $150,000 at 25% and $149,999 at 50%.\n\nFor me personally, I don’t need to stash obscene amounts of money.. enough for a comfortable lifestyle, some nice vacations when I want to take them, out the kids through college, and enough to maintain my current standard of living through retirement. The rest is just stashing cash that won’t ever be touched. How is it better served there than helping someone who genuinely needs assistance?",
"Fortunately my life doesn't revolve around winning debates with strangers on the internet. I guess I'll be a loser.",
"Actually to prosecute a crime you need intent. That's law school 101.",
"What does that map have to do with receiving more votes? Hillary Clinton received 65,853,516 votes and the Cheeto received 62,984,825. 65 million is more than 62 million. You are flat wrong.",
"Why is this downvoted? This is literally the math that the US used in its \"election\".",
"It's racist because people took offense to it. Thats what rasicm means. If he said something and 'did not mean to be' racist, he still is. Even if the public was not meant to hear it, it was still said. It's been made clear these are his true thoughts and not those of a president.\n\nPeople need to be responsible for their words and actions, and I don't want a leader for my county that isn't responsible.\n\nYou're going to keep defending him cause you think he's a good leader, and there absolutely nothing wrong with that, but there will be much criticism against him that should be tolerable at this point.",
"\"Able was I, ere I saw Elba\" is another. But less interesting, I think.",
"Sad! Go back to your safe space and drink your LibrulTears",
"How is Africa not a shithole? When 90% of the population is living in such utter poverty where no one knows where their next meal will come from and the people there make pennies (not enough for food) they are still people and we should pity and try to help them (if we can and after fixing our own shit) but it is a shithole pull your offended head out of your ass just because it's not nice doesn't make it untrue. Please give me an example of him actually being racist I'll bet you can't because people like you can't actually back up anything with evidence or facts he's done nothing close to what hitler did with nazi Germany just because he may have voters that are racist does not make him racist by association. There are black people who are racist against whites who voted for Obama you didn't get pissy with them (don't you dare give me that bullshit that blacks can't be resist they can be just as racist as anyone else). The problem with claiming that Trump sexually assaulted someone is that you need to actually prove it, it's easy to to point fingers and take things out of context. While what he said is something I disagree with and in very poor taste it wasn't sexual assault he clarified latter on (after the part where libtards like to take out of context) that they let him which is consent. Trump never gave away US secrets as far as I'm aware and isn't know to have murdered people in his path to stay in public view like Killary has. I'll take an asshole over a a murderer every day.",
"You forgot your /s.\n\nI realise that trolls don't usually use it but you really should or people might think that you ACTUALLY believe this crap HAHAHAHAHA",
"Also the significant population that typically goes largely forgotten about and getting shat on via that same neglect. Hillary comes around and turns that indirect shitting on into a more direct shitting on with her blanket insults, now that population is angry. Trump comes around as a complete wild card, well all of a sudden that group of downtrodden people suddenly have the opportunity to send a great big \"fuck you\" to everybody who ignored them and everybody who insulted them or supported those who insulted them. Fast forward a bit and they help Trump basically perform a hostile takeover over the Republican party and then the primary election.",
"> Hubris = excessive pride or self-confidence.\n\n> Put simply, I'm woke and you are not.\n\nLol.\n\nAlso, economists generally refrain from dealing in normative theory, one of the biggest problems in the application of that science. Thankfully Behavioral Economists are eating the old guard for lunch.\n\nAs for Climate change\n\n1. Denial it exists\n2. Humans aren't the cause\n3. It's not a problem \n4. We can't solve it\n5. It's too late\n\nLooks like you were using a mix of 2, 3, 4.",
"Yup. Both parties think they're oppressed and the only way to get their point across is shouting and fighting. It's quite childish.",
"That's because you are so close to the US and see so much of their media that this bizarreness just seems normal to you. To the rest of the world, he is correctly seen as insane.",
"Actually, not when it comes to security clearances which are a contract between you and the government. It is not the same as standard law. They are extremely strict when going through the process of getting a security clearance and they make it very well known that intent is irrelevant. Any release of classified information is punishable by prison and/or fines; period. \n\nSource : Held a top secret clearance for decades.",
"Lowering the average quality of life is putting Americans first?\n\nPutting ISPs above Americans is putting Americans first?\n\nPutting foreign companies tax cuts over American's healthcare is putting Americans first?\n\n\nIf you lie to yourself enough, you start to believe it. Maybe you should tell yourself the truth for once.",
"Yeah, look at all that empty uninhabited land that he won. What a dumb point to make.",
"You mean the time the ACLU lost because it WAS constitutional?",
">I'm guessing a 46 state Clinton landslide aka media bullshit.\n\nThe media said that she would get more votes. They were correct. Were the US a democracy, Hilary would have won. Trump only won because of an archaic undemocratic system...",
"I don't really understand what you mean. The people conducting the polls know which state the people they're polling are from. So of course they're going to take that into account when predicting a winner based on that data.",
"MUH FUCK DRUMPF POSTING N SHEEEIT",
"Of course you do. If you supported facts then you wouldn't be a trump voter.",
"Okay awesome now we’re back to the crux of our disagreement! \n\nWhat I’m saying is that that’s a distinction without a difference. *Just* calling something stupid is just a bad criticism. It won’t convince many people. When you have *good* criticism of an idea, you’re implicitly calling it stupid. What’s important is that it’s not hateful. Like, arguably the original post here is. Attacking the individual is hateful.\n\nTherefore, the comment I’m responding to presents no real contradiction because it’s talking about *ideas*. It’s absolutely a contradiction if you go after *people* like this post did. \n\nIf that makes me a douche, I can’t help that. I’m going on the assumption here that you’ve seen other comments and are interpreting mine to mean something it actually doesn’t.",
"If only votes mattered in a US election. Maybe some way for people to vote for who they want the leader of their country to be in a free and fair way... Shame the US hasn't thought of using a system like that yet.",
"And I clearly remember subscribing to r/pics. This seems to be a picture to me.",
"\"Everything Trump does is bad because CNN and MSNBC say so!\"\nThe /u/King_Loatheb fairy tale. ",
"That's something I hear in the US a lot. It's a bit of a strange new distinction to be honest. Both \"democracy\" and \"republic\" get used in a few ways each and there's not much etymological or historical argument for insisting that \"this is THE difference\" between them. For any modern useful meaning of \"democracy\", the US is one. And a constitutional republic. \n\n\"Republic\" comes from Rome, and \"democracy\" from Greece. Both distributed all say to the men of the richest classes, who voted as groups (with wider actual voting in Athens). \n\nDemocracy had a negative connotation to many people until around the 19th century, so it wasn't as much in vogue as a word in the very early US. \n\nThe usage this last century, though... \"Republic\" tends to mean \"not a monarchy, even formally\". Democracy tends to mean that the leadership are determined by elections - which if we include Ancient Athens can of course be organised vote in unequal subgroups, or restrict the population's vote somehow. \n\nA division I like is that republics *formally* (claim to) derive their legitimacy from the people, while democracies *actually* do. So the UK is not a republic since *formally* it derives its legitimacy from God through the monarchy (even if this is a fiction, it's the official claim), but it's a democracy because it actually derives its power from the people through elections. North Korea calls itself a people's republic so it is a republic, but it's not a democracy at all. The US is both a democracy and a republic. How the electoral system works isn't the defining factor in normal usage. ",
"You're welcome to post content and vote on content that other people have submitted. People from the US may find this concept confusing but the rest of the world calls it \"Democracy\".",
"I mean, more people dislike him than like him... It makes sense. If the US election worked by people voting on a president then this wouldn't be here right now.",
"You realise that most immigration is by plane, right? That will need to be one really tall wall...",
"I can't imagine why they'd vote for Trump as the ultimate \"fuck you\" message to the rest of the country instead of voting for Hillary after being directly degraded by the comments made by her and her supporters. Truly the greatest mystery of our time.",
"Okay I'll give you that I didn't know that. But still who's to say the Trump administration didn't send classified info over their private emails? It's been reported that they used them, but the content of the emails is unknown. It could be a violation of the presidential records act, they could have been sending classified documents, hell they could have directly emailed Putin for all we know. It warrants an investigation at least. ",
"I will.\n\n>But I support a wall and scrutinizing who's coming into the country\n\nThis is flat out Xenophobia and as a human race it should be no more tolerated than Homophobia or Racism. People do not have a say where they are born any more than their sexuality, sex or race and should not be judged by it.\n\nSaying that you want to judge Mexicans coming into your country is no better than saying you want to judge black people being born in your country.\n\nIt is a disgusting view that I hope humanity learns is wrong and is ashamed of people like you just like how we are ashamed today for the views of Nazis and the KKK because prejudice based on a trait that cannot be changed is never okay.",
"Tony Hawk would run for president on a platform of Politricks\n\nAlso the platform is actually a half pipe",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7py68o/comment/dslbjeo?st=JCDOMOJ9&sh=63cfbada",
"The rich are going to pay more now than they were before thanks to the removal and limits placed on various state deductions for national income tax.",
"Thanks for the explanation. I find it interesting that the \"Left\" (whatever that is) is seen as spoiled children with smug attitudes, when the smuggest of them all is the President. I also find it interesting that people tend to categorize those that don't support Trump as \"Left\" or \"Liberal\". It's very possible that people...just everyday, normal people that barely know anything about party politics, hate the guy. He makes it very easy. For anyone supporting him because he is giving some sort of satisfaction by upsetting a vast majority of decent people in the world, then that person should take a good, hard look at themselves and how they really feel. If anyone supports him because they believe in what he's doing...difference in political opinions with many, but fine. That's an honest and just reason.",
"[\"Democracy is a system of government in which people choose their rulers by voting for them in elections.\"](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/democracy) The US population does not get a vote on who becomes President, therefore it is not a democracy.",
"A democratic poll cannot take into account the choices people outside of the poll take in an undemocratic system.\n\nThey know what people will vote for but they don't know what the electoral college will vote for, so they just state who will get the most votes. If the US were a democracy then polls would be a lot more accurate.",
"Right. Its a republic",
"Sure, and there are no *pure* democracies. They are all representative, to start with, and even most of the others have elected officials appointing people to key roles including very often the top ones. In parliamentary systems you vote for a member of parliament who in turn votes for a prime minister. \n\nThis is a point that is made very often but it isn't a useful distinction in normal circs or in line with current usage and for sure not if the argument is that the US is less of a democracy than most countries or even western countries. ",
"Both sides are the same! ",
"Oh, you have been.",
"I guess you missed when Brian Ross got suspended for claiming Flynn flipped or refuse to listen to Alan Dershowitz who actually knows what he’s talking about when he says there is no case for collusion or obstruction of justice. Keep hope alive though!",
"[Personally, this is why I hate Trump](http://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/blog_clinton_popular_vote_2016_12_06.jpg)",
"Never heard of the Dow obviously",
"Homophobia, nice!",
"How do you Scrutinize people on a plane with a wall?",
"Lol. The polls were state by state and they were laughably wrong. But please continue not learning a thing from your mistakes.",
"Social Marxism doesn’t mean actually teaching about Marx. If that were the case, the indoctrination would be unsuccessful. There’s a reason millennials prefer socialism over capitalism—and it’s not because socialism is a better philosophy or ideology. ",
"So the visa lottery program is a good idea? Thankfully the future doesn’t belong to chump ass RINOs like yourself.",
"Would you like to source this claim? Don't link an article that also makes this claim without evidence. Rather, Id like to see how much we lose each year from these loopholes and how much is expected to come back. Also, what is specifically changing?",
"Hillary Clinton rigged the primary.",
"The EPA regulations did wonders for the BP spill, both in terms of prevention and containment. Amirite?!?",
"Are you implying that you can reason with these people? ",
"> No. Not even close. This country can't house everyone. We have an illegal immigrant problem. There is nothing wrong with wanting to tighten down who's coming in.\n> \n> Please don't be someone that just throws around Xenophobia as an excuse. It's not accurate and it's offensive.\n\n\"Xenophobia: dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.\"\n\nIf you judge someone from another country differently than a national then you are xenophobic. When is someone born in your country do they need to complete a citizen test to become a citizen? If you require people from other countries to but not people from your own then your country is xenophobic.\n\n>100% Agree. We agree on that.\n\nSo you also support prejudice against sexualities and other races?\n\n>I didn't say anything about Mexican's. If we're going to start throwing random things out there....would it help you to know that I'm from Mexico. Does that help you?\n\nMaybe you should google what an example is before you debate people online?\n\n>Bro, we don't have the room or the infrastructure to support a globalist come and go thing. We need boarders, we need lawful immigration, and we need to scrutinize who's coming into this country.\n\nYeah no that isn't true at all. The top 1% in the US have enough money to pay every person in the world a basic living wage.",
"Maybe try being a more valuable asset.",
"You think they can come up with their own insults? They can't even meme.",
"It’s a troll...",
"Cute metaphor, except the United States is not a company, and it doesn't function like one. Not that anyone who voted for Trump would understand the difference. Big man in Business Suit = Good Business Man for Country. ",
">Sure, and there are no pure democracies.\n\nFrance, Norway, Denmark, and the vast majority of countries in the world...\n\n>They are all representative, to start with, and even most of the others have elected officials appointing people to key roles including very often the top ones. In parliamentary systems you vote for a member of parliament who in turn votes for a prime minister.\n\nI don't think you know what a democracy is. The UK is another example of a country that isn't a democracy, we are a representative monarchy... \n\n\"Democracy: Democracy is a system of government in which people choose their rulers by voting for them in elections.\" The US people does not get to choose the ruler of the US. Therefore, it is not a democracy.\n\n>This is a point that is made very often but it isn't a useful distinction in normal circs or in line with current usage and for sure not if the argument is that the US is less of a democracy than most countries or even western countries.\n\nThe point is that people should be able to vote on the leader of their country.",
"Oh, well, I suppose that could matter if the electoral college voted significantly differently than their constituency. In 2016 though, although there were an unusually high number of faithless electors, it did not affect the outcome of the election.",
"I hate him because he is an undemocratic leader. I hate all leaders that were not democratically elected. I also hate Theresa May and Kim Jong Un if that helps.\n\nI support democracy and democratically elected leaders.",
"I am just saying that the polls that said what the popular vote would say were correct.",
"Again, the vast majority of illegal immigration into the US is by plane.\n\nThe wall would cost millions and wouldn't even stop 8% of illegal immigration. It would also be a symbol of xenophobia for the whole world to see. The US is hated enough as it is.",
"Not an argument",
"Think we (or at least one of us - could be me... my bad if so) has a fundamental misunderstanding here... let's break this down\n\n* Picture that's calling Trump supported stupid\n\n* Comment about reddit just calling people stupid for believing different^1\n\n* you say believing different doesn't mean it can't be criticized \n\n* I say calling people stupid isn't criticism and is just bullying\n\n* you point out that ideas can be stupid and be criticized^2\n\n* I point out criticism is more than just calling an idea stupid\n\n* you say nobody said 'just', it's my addition \n\n* I point out that 'just' is implied since that is the comment's main issue, like the picture \n\n* you distinguish between the difference of people and ideas\n\n* I point out that it's not criticism\n\n* you say that is irrelevant and want to go back to the comment about how it's okay to call ideas stupid\n\n* I point out you said *criticize* not blatantly calling people stupid, and if you believe it's okay to just call ideas stupid, you're a douche. \n\n* you point out that there's no difference between calling an idea stupid and criticizing it since criticizing an idea is inherently calling it stupid. Calling an idea stupid is just bad criticism, and it's okay to do that so long as it's not attacking the individual.\n\nalright are we clear this is our conversation so far? \n\nBecause if we are defining criticism to include simply disagreeing and looking down on an idea without explaining the why - just defining it as bad criticism. And you think it is okay to do that so long as it's not attacking the person. \n\nThen let's just agree to disagree, because I see 0 benefit to anyone in making those types of comments. Having a different idea than the masses already puts you at odds, to be shot down is already the start of alienation. To be shot down with no explanation is just wrong.\n\n\n---\n 1\n\n>It's criticizing this guys political beliefs to make him look stupid. I know you're not OP, but so many people say \"oh I want people to believe in whatever they want\" but as soon as someone has an opposing belief they say their ideas are stupid. \n\nnote - how others are in agreement that this shit's annoying\n\n2\nnote - this is the first time the word Idea has become the main subject\n\n",
"But they didn't know how many would be faithless beforehand. Polls predict the popular vote and it predicted it correctly.",
"Lol do you know how regulations work? Typically someone makes a mistake, fucks some shit up, then we write a regulation to help prevent that. Now the regulations put in place after the spill have been lifted by Trump, so I'm not sure wtf your point is. ",
">Why then is the highest quality of life in the world overwhelmingly found in capitalist countries? Why is wealth so concentrated, preserved, and reliably created in capitalist countries?\n\nWell, if the capitalist countries would let the socialist countries *breathe*, we might have an honest answer to the question. You forget that the USSR won the space race! \n\n>I agree there are issues with capitalism. It's not a perfect system, it's just the best one we have right now. \n\nIt's far from \"not perfect\". It is a system designed without failsafes, without brakes- it is a system designed to cater to *excess*. In a zero sum economy, that means that yachts and mansions are paid for by workers, orphans, peasants. The problem with a crumbling capitalist society is that there is no answer- how do we pull back the income inequality? How do we raise wages for the working class? We are headed toward fascism because *there is no other end game*. The bourgeoisie will need a military to enforce the status quo, they will do so by stoking a sense of nationalism and patriotism, blame immigrants and poors for the sins of the ruling class and we'll be right back at the third Reich.\n\n>There's quite a large gap between not having free healthcare and tens of millions of political prisoners executed in Gulags. Marxism reliably produces MORE poverty than capitalism and is almost always more murderous. You ignore these differences at your peril. \n\nAh, very well! Since we're talking about the third Reich, go ahead and add that to the death toll produced under capitalism. Oh, and of course, there's the private prison industrial complex, which is of course in no way gulag-esque! \n\nSo let's do some back of the napkin math. 5 years of drone strikes under capitalism has killed, what, 2,000? The war in Iraq, 500,000, the war in Afghanistan, 20,000, the war on drugs has claimed at least 50,000, then there's Desert Storm, Vietnam, Korea....\n\nBut there's also the pesky issue of systemic global poverty, which is capitalism's proudest accomplishment. Let's go conservative here and assume that's 15 million deaths annually, but that's likely closer to 20 million. People.\n\nTell me again how *marxism* is the great evil?",
"7 more years! =)",
"Wait, the US is not a company? It’s not just a cute metaphor.. it’s a very applicable metaphor based in sound logic. That’s why you can’t spin it. \n\nDo companies not have people, policies, structures, departments, employees, budgets, committees? I’m confused.\n\nWe’d better let a community manager handle the task. Haha. \n\n",
"I don’t know, when people like my dad feel the need to constantly use racial slurs like the n-word and beaner, or how people I knew in high school would call my best friend the “token black friend” and make jokes about how white she was, I’m going to say they’re pretty fucking racist. My guess is it’s not the latter and you’re just incredibly naive.",
"No they weren't even close. They were of by around 10 points. Sorry. ",
"the dude missed the obvious sarcasm in backwater's comment, i dont think comedy is his strong point. ",
"Dude. You a meme. \"LITERALLY HITLER!\" The Nazis murdered people, took authoritarian control of the government, advocated for literal ethnic cleansing, and started the largest war in human history. If you are trying to compare any major existing US figure or party to the nazis, you are out of your mind.",
"Not sure if you’re aware but most who received a bonus did not get laid off. Instead of whining, be thankful they gave you $1,000 before informing you that you weren’t valuable enough. ",
"Lmao you’re the snowflake buddy. Sorry immigrants scare you. ",
"Yep everyone who is religious just freaks out about everything. Great outlook",
"But it didn't make any difference in this case. So the accuracy of the polls in answering the question \"who will become president\" was not affected by the electoral college system in any way in 2016.",
"Yeah, democracy doesn't care about your undemocratic \"points\" system. sorry.",
"I wish I were as important as you. ",
"What the stats show, however, is that they expected significantly *more* people to vote for her than did. About 3 million more voted for her than trump, which equates to just shy of a 2 point jump. The polls that day before the election had her winning by an average of 4 points, which would be 6-7 million more. Had the election gone the way the polls suggested she would have won the electoral college. \n\nI do not agree with the electoral college at all. I think it’s ridiculos that if 30,000 more people vote one way in Pennsylvania, all 20 votes go to that party. I understand the purpose of the electoral college, but do not agree with it. ",
"Yes I know how regulations work. They are put in place to crush entire industries so liberals can sleep better at night, all the while doing absolutely nothing to prevent disaster. ",
"You don't understand the difference between democracy and mob rule. You should.",
"Maybe one day. Probably not though.",
"Wealth isn't a zero sum game but people's time and attention is",
"In a neutral forum, sure. But this isn't a politically neutral forum by any stretch of the imagination. \n\nEx) An Eagles fan will get booed at a Cleveland Browns home game. That doesn't mean the Cleveland Browns are a better team, however. \n\n",
">Who said anything about judgement! WTF. You're now changing our conversation. I'm for securing boarders. You're for making me out as a xenophobe. You're a joke.\n\nYou want someone to pass a test to get in. That is literally the definition of judgement...\n\n>WTF is wrong with you. You're nuts.\n\nYou said that you support prejudice against people from other countries. You also said you agreed with me that people have as little say on where they're from as their sexuality, race or sex. Therefore you must support prejudice against those groups too, otherwise, you are a hypocrite.",
"I’m saying when given a choice between siding with a group what constantly demeans and dehumanizes them and a crazy guy who says “you have valid concerns, and I’m going to help you resolve them” (even if he’s probably lying) they’re probably going to go with the crazy guy. Continuing to call them stupid for the next 4 years isn’t going to make them more receptive to your cause. \n\nThe biggest mistake the Republican Party has made in recent history is aligning their party platform with the black and white ideology of the extreme Christian Right. For the Democratic Party it’s their development of the pretentious attitude toward anyone who doesn’t fully agree with them",
"> Then you support Trump. Prove to me he wasn't democratically elected. I'll wait....\n\n[\"Democracy is a system of government in which people choose their rulers by voting for them in elections.\"](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/democracy) The US did not choose Trump as a ruler by voting for him in an election, therefore he was not democratically elected.",
"\"Xenophobia: Dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.\" Locking people out based on a characteristic that they had no say in is prejudice.",
"It's a shame how often stereotyping is supported by statistics.",
"So much sad. It’s truly the best sad. ",
"So the religious right is “everyone who is religious” huh? I guess liberals can’t be Christian or Muslim or Jewish. I was talking specifically of the religious right who tend towards the THATS NOT WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS IN MY INTERPRETATION type of up in arms. About just about everything. Also literally the most common people to say “I need a safe space away from these people I don’t like/agree with” although usually in less polite terms :) ",
"Wow, next time I'm carrying a bucket of crude oil and properly disposing of it. I'll make sure to throw it on your face.",
"Ironically, it is the Republican core base that receives the most welfare, and a Liberal state that contributes the most to US GDP.",
"19 hours later, still not locked...",
"Will you no longer dispose it properly if the EPA ceases to exist? Do you need the EPA in existence to do your job? ",
"idk how to lock it 😐",
"r/the_donald\nlet the beef begin",
"sure thing pal. mueller is just performing a big show. the fbi, cia and friends are just having shits and giggles and the totally stable genius trump (i mean *come on*) just *happens* to basically plays 55E-frogger which to us simpleminded unstable dimwits *looks* like he best interest of russia...\n\nbut hey, keep on pushing your story and defenses. time will tell. if trump turns out to be a good guy i’m glad to have been proven wrong. but if he turns out to be the goon that he seems to be, the destruction of the US democracy is on the hands of the likes of you. \n\nlet that sink in for a moment",
"I dont see any irony other than youself",
"I believe that being a liberal Christian is wasting time, so yes. The Bible can be difficult to comprehend true meanings of its context, and some religious far right use it (or abuse it) in the complete wrong ways. Nobody is perfect, and practicing Christians should understand that.",
"People are taking this wrong I feel. If you voted for Trump there is nothing wrong with you. If you LIKE Trump right now....",
"Prominent Democrat/HRC donor who has litigated in front of SCOTUS Alan Dershowitz>your uninformed, anon opinion",
"If there's no regulation on proper disposal. It's not going to get done. Hell people already cut corners left and right with the EPA. Boss cares about time, proper disposal costs time. ",
"He should probably focus on his lackadaisical immigration policy as well. He could learn a few things from trump. Or I suppose you could say trump could learn a few things from him. \nThere are some good things about immigration I like. For instance they seem to be pretty strict on American immigrants who have prior crimes. (As long as you aren’t a Muslim or terrorist, then you get a free pass) [wouldn’t want to be an islamiphobe]\nI heard the hospitals and medical care is awful there. But I honestly can’t speak from experience. So, I’m glad it isn’t all bad. I’m not opposed to Medicare. I just think it needs to be considered from all sides. Not just the benefit of the lower class. (Because we should all hope to not be locked in to one financial class and strive to become more financially stable.) and I feel that when you have specific plans suitable for lower class it basically is an admission that they want you to continue to stay poor. ",
"So the only way you can be evil is if you murder people? Suppressing people's right to vote, or their right to free speech, that can't be evil because it's not murderous? What about intentionally destroying the environment to the detriment of future generations? Not evil either?\n\nYou clearly missed my point by a mile.",
"Speaking of :)",
"In my original comment, when I said “nothing” can ever be criticized, that meant ideas. I was talking about the comments use of the word “idea” from the beginning. I think the misunderstanding arose from my original response being solely about the comment I was responding to, not necessarily how that relates to the original picture. I’m trying to separate the two things, isolating the specific comment. \n\nSo then here we are. I’m saying ideas are open to criticism. Calling an idea stupid is merely a bad criticism and not comparable to calling an individual stupid. You disagree, you think simply calling an idea stupid is just (or at least close to) as bad as attacking a person. \n\nI want to clarify that I do\nagree that just calling an idea stupid is wrong in the sense that it’s not a good argument. I’m absolutely not a supporter of that behavior. But I’m a believer that at the end of the day, the best arguments will win out, so simply saying something is stupid should surely not win out. \n\nAlthough I am sympathetic to the difficulty of dissenting voices, I still think that you should be able to gain traction if your argument is good. \n\nImagine I was on reddit and I responded to a comment by saying “that’s stupid”. I honestly don’t think\nthat would get a very positive response from the rest of Reddit, regardless of the issue. (I’m speaking generally, there are clearly exceptions). The person would then likely respond “why?”. If you never defended yourself at that point, you look like a fool.",
"Another unforced error: Trump proves that he can be his worst enemy. What he hasn't proved is that he is my worst enemy. Hillary, however . . .",
"time > any opinion",
"Some people are ridiculous and extrapolate a lot from small statements. While I'm not interested in debating some stranger on the internet, it's not fair to assume anything about you beyond the statements you offer. ",
"You cannot use this statement as fact. It is just pure garbage. \nSo, these “racist” people who voted for trump also voted for a black democrat Barry sotero er um, Barack obama? I didn’t realize racism was a switch you turn on and off when it benefits your agenda. \nGet real. ",
"Splooge",
"I'm really not sure what you're trying to say with that comment.\n\nI think we can demand change in our political system without a civil war breaking out because of it. If enough people demand an end to gerrymandering, or the electoral college, or demand ranked-choice voting then it can happen, though it will be a slow and difficult process. So many politicians will oppose it because having only two parties keeps them office.\n\nAt the very least, we can send the DNC and RNC the message that if you choose your own candidate and rig the system to ignore the will of the voters, we're going to reject your chosen candidates. The public demanded change in Washington, and the political parties offered us nothing but status quo candidates who wanted to change nothing.\n\nWith a wide field of opponents and a spread-out vote, the voters were able to force the Republican party to take Trump as their nominee. Bernie was only facing one opponent, she had a very famous name and a lot of \"first female president\" hype, which left the vote close enough that DNC corruption was enough to secure the nomination for her.\n\n> Also not saying those voters who thought Roy Moore lost their \"anyone but a Democrat\" vote, and voted for a third write-in Republican got Doug Jones elected into Alabama senate, but in total Republicans got more votes in Alabama.\n\nI don't think anyone's surprised that there are more Republicans than Democrats in Alabama. Jones won because Moore was a garbage candidate.\n\n> But hey, \"anyone but Trump\" right?\n\nI think anyone but a Trump superfan should be able to admit he's far from the best man for the job. He has the maturity of a 10 year old and spends time online talking trash to his detractors. He's uninformed and unqualified for a job this important... he's on my list of the many politicians who I think should be forced to appear on Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader just to prove how informed or uninformed they really are on basic topics.\n\nHillary's extremely intelligent and informed, but she's also crooked. So my position had to turn into \"anyone but Trump or Hillary\".",
"There is something right in everything.",
"Trump is nothing more than George Bush with an ego.",
"https://www.epa.gov/outdoor-air-quality-data/air-data-aqi-plot\n\nYou can use this to plot pollution data by year. I used the CO and NO2 levels for 1980 and 2017. The results speak for themselves.\nEdit: https://www.epa.gov/clean-air-act-overview/progress-cleaning-air-and-improving-peoples-health\n\n",
"> Obama was elected from the electoral college. He failed to secure the popular vote but still was elected president.\n\nObama won the popular vote...",
"There is no difference.",
"Hey can I say that I commend your change of heart on Trump? I can see why you might have supported him at first, but it does speak volumes that you're able to recognize that they don't have our best interests at heart. I don't even have any good suggestions for who to support, or anyone I would wholeheartedly endorse, but I know these republicans have got to be stopped before they sell us all up the river.",
"Are you gonna spend your whole day on this thread?",
"Dude, I voted for President Trump. I don't need a safe space. I'm a grown adult with no mental illness.",
"Is it just me who reads this like a threat?",
"Except that statement. You know, because it's objectively wrong.",
"Except that more people could have voted faithless...",
"Losing what?",
"Also the statement \"wealth is not a zero sum game\" ignores the emergent effects that arise when disproportionate wealth disproportionate political influence--even if the ultrawealthy cannot change the zero sum nature of wealth generation, in these conditions they may certainly adjust the market bounds and landscape to ensure that they accumulate the vast majority of wealth.",
" and I grew up there in the cultural revolution and still find the US economy inadequate.",
"How will your taxes getting cut hurt, exactly?",
"The reductions in things I can deduct is what’s going to hurt",
"it's not impossible",
"People who are legally allowed to vote as US citizens can't even do that because of Republican efforts. Do you really think that millions of illegal immigrants voted despite ZERO evidence to support that? ",
"I moved to New Zealand sucker!\n",
"But you feel like we should be held hostage towards your feelings and emotions? Double standards much?\nBy you accusing anyone who voted for trump as being a racist and sexist and ignorant out of fear we might not be accepted in your pretentious club won’t/ didn’t work. When will you realize that it’s only backfiring on you guys ten fold. \nAnd instead of acknowledging this, you then say Russians hacked the election. Um no, sorry. It was just a bunch of patriots fed up of the hypocrisy and SJW witch hunt. And rebelling back and showing that in fact, we the people, have a voice and we won’t be muted. ",
"Those are literally things that my trump supporting friends and family have said to me. Check it out, ask around, trump supporters are all upset and angry for various different reasons and all to happy to blame Obama, and the Libtards and anyone and everyone but themselves. My buddies Dad is on welfare because he is a hopeless alcoholic with a daughter he can't afford to take care of. He is a trump supporter. You need to get some listening skills into your life and learn to pay attention. Its like talking to my brother where he has an inability to hear what I am saying. Like I heard trump supporters say that stuff and what do you say? \"imagine what it would be like\"",
"Lol. Easy to obfuscate when you cant address the actual point. ",
"> But still who's to say the Trump administration didn't send classified info over their private emails? \n\nIt has been shown that almost everyone uses a private server but they follow the rules. It was shown that Hillary's servers didn't follow said rules. And she used it to transfer classified material; none of the others have been shown to do so. How did they know she sent classified info? Someone who received it let them know. No one has come forward for anyone else.\n\nSo just because you don't like Trump, that's fine, but don't make things up just because. If there was any evidence of wrong doing, then sure, go after it. But till then, keep it in your pants.",
">That doesnt make much sense. \n\nSure it does. \n\nA. Not a public statement. \n\nB. He isn't president of Haiti. He has no obligation to help Haitians. \n\n>Also, pick a president who takes accountablity for his words and actions. I dont believe Trump has completely executed even one of his promises to his voters. \n\nWell thats weird. Because he has. Loads. Conservative SCOTUS being a big one. Regulations cutting another one. Oh he pulled us out of the TPP and Paris Accords. Manufacturing jobs have gone up. Literally just off the top of my head. I can find more if youre interested. But the fact you didnt seem to know this already tells me you arent. \n\nAlmost like you arent as well informed as you think you are. \n\n>No wall\n\nHe's literally negotiating funding it right now. We have prototypes. \n\n>higher taxes\n\nNot for 80 percent of Americans. Pretty sure your taxes went down too. You genuinely dont know what youre talking about do you?\n\n>and shit healthcare.\n\nShit healthcare? They havent done healthcare yet. Can't get anything passed. That shit healthcare is still Obamacare bud. \n\n>To top it all off, inflation will hit us like a ton of bricks by the end of the decade. I hope he grows a pair by the end of his term\n\nLol. Is that the new talking point against the roaring Trump economy? Inflation? Cute. \n\n\n\n",
"This is the dumbest post in a very, very dumb thread.\n\nSit in the corner and think about what you've done.",
"Aw, does that upset you? Are you?\nYou get all cranky when you start withdrawals. \nSomebody get this person some soy!",
"Or... maybe none of the religions should get to make the rules, like the Constitution says. Not yours, not theirs, not anyone's.",
"The fact that you're using mental gymnastics to try and twist what the president *really* meant is proof in an of itself that you are uncomfortable with the painfully obvious. Trump is racist. He's also kicking out Haitians and Central Americans who came here to escape violence and disasters. What more proof do you need? How long are you going to bury your head in the sand? The president is a bigot. ",
"Other examples of him being racist is when he called Mexicans and other undocumented people criminals. When has ICE agents going door to door looking for anyone with brown skin to do god knows what to them. When he made an unconstitutional ban on Muslims from entering the country. When he openly mocked those with disabilities while on the campaign trail. And for the record, black people actually can't be racist. When your race endured 200 years of the worst case of slavery in human history, then to be denied basic civil rights, only to have the system work against you when you do get those rights. Yeah, you can't be racist when your entire race has been subjected to racism the moment they got here. ",
"> Silicon Valley is already picking up and moving to more tax friendly states like Texas.\n\nIt's really not. People have been saying that for 20 years and... yeah, still mostly no. Austin was supposed to be the new San Francisco a generation ago, and... Austin is a pretty great city, but it's not the Valley in terms of technology or innovation. It's just not.",
"Throw it on the spoon and let it flow through my veins ",
"Bingo!! There's the projection I was waiting for. You literally just said \"buttt Clinton\" and then say I'm not staying on point. ",
"Lol. Damn, I know it wasn’t intentional, but as a former heroin addict and recovering, that was all too real and gave me flash backs. \nI know we disagree on our political beliefs, but I want to take this chance and say that I respect your opinion and freedom to speak your mind. Take care. ",
"If that’s honestly what you believe, then I won’t be able to change your mind. \n\nBecause you’re already choosing to ignore vastly more evidence than I could ever present to you in a reddit comment. ",
"Well there's no grammatical errors there, so if you're having a difficult time you may need to go back and get the GED.",
"Just what I thought from 2008-2016!",
"trump has hit a nerve that i dont think has existed before. ive always been a moderate that would find value in both parties' views, but the way the recent events have unfolded has disgusted me. its jaded me in a way that i used to criticize others for becoming, and im not proud of that. point being: he's forced folks who used to be open to new ideas and pushed them so far past their points of respect that its moved into full blown loathing. hence, if you post anything even remotely supportive of his views you get downvoted into oblivion...",
"President Trump himself has never filled for bankruptcy, some of his businesses, yes. he has multiple companys worth millions, but you wont acknowledge that because some have gone bankrupt? ",
"Uh? It's the liberals who want safespots lol",
"the point had nothing to do with my grandfather other than using his ability to process data as a unit of comparison, which is impaired from a shitty disease...",
"That was unexpected but really took a turn for the better lol",
"You miss my point entirely. I'm saying Trump is a man that does not take responsibility for his actions. \n\nLets take responsibility for the fact that if the wall would be built, it would be built already. \nLets take responsibility for the fact that Trump is trying to repeal Obamacare; an imperfect healthcare plan, but a healthcare plan nonetheless. \nLets take responsibility for the fact BECAUSE we are one of the most powerful nations im the world, we have a responsibility to take care of our brother countries like Haiti. For example: If you expect coworkers to help you out, you should \nlead by example instead of show contempt.\n\n",
"how does a massive companies profit benefit you or i though? they dont pay us more (or the wage growth would be outpacing inflation), so why is this a benefit to american citizens? sure, it boosts the value of the company's stock (bc stockholders DO care about company profits) but it doesnt actually contribute anything back to society. pro business approaches are great for stock price and stockholder wealth, but with such a small % of americans that actually hold any meaningful level of stock, it only benefits a tiny portion of us. look, i get that succesful corporations is better than suffering corporations, but his policies are not actually helping you or me. im in the upper 5% of wealth in the country, and had a meeting last week with my CPA to prep for taxes in a few months. im getting a rousing $300 decrease in tax liability from last year. great, i can buy a nice new coffee pot. if my income was 10X my current level, i would be saving enough to buy a new mercedes. notice, thats a lot more than $300 X 10. its not a linear relationship, and thats what i find to be bullshit about how this is marketed as a \"middle class\" tax cut. its simply not, its a cut for the wealthy incorrectly marketed as a cut for the middle class. i would have LESS of an issue with the legislation if they had simply been honest about the beneficiaries, rather than lying about who its really for. again, i would be all for a boost to corporate profits if there was a shred of economic evidence that when large corporations increase their profits that they pay it forward to their employees, but unfortunately thats not what economic data has shown since the end of the 1970's. Wells fargo just received billions in tax cuts from their balance sheets, they stated that they would be using the money to increase wages and hire more folks. yesterday they annouced that they will be closing over 800 brick and mortar stores nationwide and laying off thousands of bankers and tellers. thats the opposite of what was supposed to happen, and this is being duplicated by AT&T. its just bullshit fed to families struggling to make the mortgage to make us feel better, and its really frustrating.\n\nhttp://money.cnn.com/2018/01/12/investing/wells-fargo-shutting-branches/index.html\n\n\n/endrant",
"I never said he himself filed for bankruptcy. Now sure he has multiple companies, but let’s take a look at his portfolio shall we?\nTrump steaks\nGotrump.com\nTrump Airlines\nTrump Vodka\nTrump Mortgage\nTrump: The Game\nTrump Magazine\nTrump University\nTrump Ice\nNew Jersey Generals\nTour De Trump\nTrump On The Ocean\nThe Trump Network\nTrumped!\nTrump New Media\n",
"and?",
"Of course they are, and that’s exactly what I’d expect. ",
"That’s all you’ve got? Such a waste of a comment and my time if you’re trying to prove a point. The argument of “and?” has to be, in my opinion, the most childish.",
"what do you mean? im wondering what you were trying to say or prove by naming some of his companies",
"Are you familiar with the history of said aforementioned companies?",
"speaking just for myself, I think trump supporters are stupid because they support *Trump*, not because they support republican policy. I may not agree with nearly anything they're pushing for, but I'm no expert so their opinion is as valid as mine.\n\nI think they're stupid because they rabidly follow a racist, embarrassing, dementia riddled old man.",
"I think you’re forgetting about Vietnam ",
"nah i just asked what you meant because i knew the answer",
"An argument consists of logic. Something you haven't presented for the assertion that there are more than 2 genders. There are male and female. What is this other gender called???? It doesn't exist. An abnormality isn't a new gender. It's an ABNORMALITY.",
"Very true. I've always thought that a smart person is one who can differentiate opinion from character. Trump is, undoubtedly, a disgusting and horrible person. I certainly believe that— however, it isn't wrong to like someone's opinions and not their character. Plenty of shitty people have reasonable opinions, and most people here would be surprised to learn how many of their heroes are complete scumbags.",
"I know what Democratic Socialism is and I also know that the differences between it and Communism are paltry at best.",
"This is true overall. In political contexts nope. ",
"Because liberals are so fucking reasonable. California continuously jacks up the taxes and fees in the state for every fucking liberal agenda item and then cries murder when the Federal government does it to them.",
"What is shareblue? Is that an actual thing or some buzzword insult?\n\nAlso, people who disagree with you are not shills, they are people who disagree. \n\nAnd lastly, when someone disagrees by stating facts in rebuttal to what you have said, you cannot just meme it off and pretend that you're still right. You can counter what they've said, or contextualize it, but you cant just pretend what they've said is meaningless, or theres no point of you even being here.\n\nIf you're just here to ruffle feathers and make jokes, stop it. That is harmful to everyone, and our country at large.",
"a lot of the things on that list are \"this thing happened while he was president\"\n\nI too, was alive when the DOW hit record heights, so what?",
"Opinion? Obama contributing to the growth of our economy is a fact; a fact that you refuse to acknowledge and give credit whenever it’s due. \n\nYou *believe* that you are right, when objectively and in reality, you are wrong. You talk and brag about a topic that you don’t have sufficient knowledge about, and cower and back away when you meet someone who does. You’re too stubborn to admit that you are wrong, because admitting that you are wrong will probably hurt your pride and ego. Reading people like you is pretty easy.\n\nI never said I was a *professional* trader. I said that I’m a *day* trader who trades both stocks and options. Then again, you completely toss aside my position because you’re blindsided and stubborn as fuck. You probably know absolutely nothing about what options are. ",
"They down vote you because they got triggered.",
"Not even close. If the liberals elected a guy like Trump, it'd be a different story. ",
"not being a racist oaf in international relations =/= silencing of opinions.\n\nBeing racist isnt an opinion, its wrong, unless that's what you're disputing.",
"I’m going to go with the assumption that your comment is sarcastic. Those are all businesses of Trump that failed, a lot of them tanked extremely fast. ",
"I haven't watched either of those channels in years.\n\nYou tried though!",
"Come on man, this is sad",
"Do Tell",
"> They alone, and nobody else, are responsible for the expiry, because everyone else voted for it.\n\nBut the people *who wrote the expiry into the bill* are completely absolved of blame to you. This is how delusional the right has become. Their own party writes a bill that deliberately eliminates their tax cut after 10 years and they blame the opposition party.\n\nI thought you were actually rational for a minute there and then you went right back and confirmed that you're just another hyperpartisan idiot who is looking for any excuse possible to blame Democrats for a bill they literally had no role whatsoever in writing. It's moronic beyond words.\n\nYou know how many Democrats got an amendment into the tax bill? One. A grand total of one. Why would any of them vote for a bill they weren't invited to participate in? You're being deliberately obtuse so you find any excuse possible to pass the buck.",
"*than\n\nAlso, see if the reasons you like him really make sense after watching this entire video: https://youtu.be/DnpO_RTSNmQ",
"GDP doesn't mean shit. Importing 100 welfare leeches and 1 hard worker will technically grow the GDP. You need to be looking at GDP per capita, and Muslims perform worse than most, on average. Everyone uses public services, schools, roads, hospitals. If they're not chipping in more than they take out, why import them? This goes for any group.",
"No, that guy is most definitely not a socialist.",
"https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6494820\n\n\nhttps://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-understand-gender-identity/\n\n\nhttp://www.medicaldaily.com/challenging-gender-identity-biologists-say-gender-expands-across-spectrum-rather-323956?amp=1\n\n\nhttp://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/\n\n\nThere are a few links for you to peruse. :) \n",
"Remember that half of everyone has below average intellect. ",
">You miss my point entirely. I'm saying Trump is a man that does not take responsibility for his actions. \n\nThat's your *new* point. As evidence by the \"also\". And its completely subjective and not worth arguing over. \n\n>Lets take responsibility for the fact that if the wall would be built, it would be built already. \n\n...how do you figure? Again, he is *currently* negotiating funding for said wall. There have been a lot of hold ups, sure. But thats Washington for you. Especially when half of congress wants to pretend a wall is somehow \"racist\". \n\n\n>Lets take responsibility for the fact that Trump is trying to repeal Obamacare; an imperfect healthcare plan, but a healthcare plan nonetheless. \n\nThat directly caused rates to skyrocket and is arguably unconstitutional. You do know there was a time BEFORE obamacare, right? And people werent dying in the streets? President Trumps EO allowing for insurance policies to be sold across state lines and his repeal of the mandate are certainly progress on that count. Hes not a dictator you know. He cant just demand everyone pass his agenda. \n\n\n>Lets take responsibility for the fact BECAUSE we are one of the most powerful nations im the world, we have a responsibility to take care of our brother countries like Haiti. \n\nWe do more than our share already. But I simply don't agree with your premise. A government should have only one obligation. Its own people. Do not legislate charity. \n\n>For example: If you expect coworkers to help you out, you should \nlead by example instead of show contempt.\n\nExcept you want to make those co workers to help you by threat of force. As that is what legislating charity is. I will donate myself. Don't presume to do it for me. Thats theft. \n\n\n",
"It's sounds like you'd like the country to be less Christian than it is now, are you a bigot as well? I'm not calling for genocide here. More Islam means more poverty, more violence, less classical liberalism. Look at France. Discriminating based on ideology is justified, whether it's a Muslim who believes gays should be put to death, and women stuffed into garbage bags, or a Communist who wants to overthrow the Capitalist order.",
"Enough dude. I'm not reading your wall of shit. Just stop.",
"Cringe",
"It was enough for you to comment. Refusing to admit that you are terribly wrong. You’re pathetically stubborn, just the rest of your don friends lol",
"Every side aint equal. The Trumpers are a bunch of uneducated dumb fucks. I get that many of them didnt expect what we have now when they voted, but the rest of us arent surprised and I sure as hell am not foing to be all PC about how little I respect them now. ",
"Its so bothersome to have people shove evidence of widescale corruption and authoritarianism in your face right? Have you ever wondered how people let nazi germany happen? Apathy. ",
"You're just too bigoted to see sense or reality. People who need assistance get on their feet and have built this country since the beginning - they aren't leeches.\n\nThis is why every respected economist disagrees with this bullshit your spewing\n\nhttp://www.newamericaneconomy.org/feature/an-open-letter-from-1470-economists-on-immigration/\n\nStop trying to legislate hatred and ignorance.",
">Those are literally things that my trump supporting friends and family have said to me. \n\nNo they didn't.\n\n>Check it out, ask around, trump supporters are all upset and angry for various different reasons and all to happy to blame Obama, and the Libtards and anyone and everyone but themselves.\n\nWell, Trump supporters blaming the woes of healthcare for instance on Obama would be accurate. It's still in effect genius. Your comment paints the situation of them being mad at Trump which you and I both know is bogus. Stop whoring yourself for karma.\n\n>My buddies Dad is on welfare because he is a hopeless alcoholic with a daughter he can't afford to take care of. He is a trump supporter.\n\nSo?\n\n>Its like talking to my brother where he has an inability to hear what I am saying.\n\nWell, you're a liberal. Nothing but hot air comes out of you guys.\nLike I heard trump supporters say that stuff and what do you say? \"imagine what it would be like\"\n\n>Like I heard trump supporters say that stuff and what do you say? \"imagine what it would be like\"\n\nLmao!",
"It's been my point all along, if you dont wanna understand, theres no point arguing with you",
"I never called for laws to discriminate against Christians, is the difference. We have this thing called the first amendment, you ought to read it",
"why does that take away from the fact that he has plenty of successful ones too? And why do we need to know how much money he has",
"By your logic the US should open it's borders to the entire world's population, since everyone contributes in the end. Calling people bigots isn't a suitable substitute for a basic economics class.",
"Ah, theres the slippery-slope fallacy, lol. I'm advocating for current immigration rates, not suggesting changes.\n\nI only call you a bigot because you are - your intolerant of Muslims to the point of wanting to stop them from entering the country based only on their religion.",
"The first amendment doesn't apply to foreigners, genius. I don't want to live in a country modeled after Pakistan, just like you don't want to live in a country modeled after Uganda. Just because you're too stupid to understand the steps needed to insure the country doesn't end up in either of those scenarios, doesn't mean you're any less bigoted.",
"Nihillary gotmore votes derp",
"Current immigration rates will mean a Muslim majority in the coming years. I'm okay with making exceptions for Muslims with exceptional talent and little regard for their child-raping prophet and his teachings. I'd also like to see the current Muslim population shrink until it catches up with the rest of society in terms of economic success and liberal attitudes.",
"I don't think we're in danger of becoming Uganda, and I don't want to stop Christians from entering the US? I don't judge someone just because they identify as Christian. How do you see us making any similar points?\n\nEdit: and when I referred to Bible-belt Christians, I was talking about people I've met",
"You seem to be under the impression that the electoral college is bad. And you'd be right about that, but you also seem to be under the impression that using the popular vote would be better, and that is not true. Study how the country was founded and why the electoral college is the way it is. Also look at a county wide map. The truth is the problem isn't some person in office, things have been pretty carefully laid out to prevent a person in office from causing too much trouble. The problem is in the mind of America, when theres a massive divide between rural and urban, where the entirety of rural votes one way and urban another, thats bad. It doesn't even matter whos right about whatever issues of the month. That kind of divide is not going to last, be it mended in a healthy way, or forcefully taken to an extreme that breaks down society entirely. Hopefully we can have the first, but we reach that through openness combined with critical thought, not anger.",
"You're full of it dude.",
"Good luck with that. It all just sounds un-American to me. I'll be voting against policy like that every chance I get",
"Lol. Sure. ",
"It won't be America once it's majority Muslim, it'll be a caliphate, and people like you will get on your knees and pray for the return of Bible thumpers. Good talk.",
"OK chump. Just get over Hillary's devastating loss. Sorry bud. ",
"He didn't call Mexicans criminals in fact he said that he respects the Mexicans that are hardworking and want to make an honest living coming here legally. He called illegal immigrants criminals, rapists and murders. Which sadly is true, many places with high amounts of illegal immigrants suffer much more from violent crimes and rapes etc. Its irrelevant how long one race was persecuted and it's stupid to ignore racism based on the past problems. (If it was the case whites would be also be unable to be racist because they were persecuted by millennia.) let's not forget the fact that it was other blacks that sold their fellow black people into slavery. Please remove your head from your assbefore you make up any more bullshit.",
"Nice of you to assume that I would vote for a crook like Hillary, lol\n\nSo because I don’t like trump, your simple mind automatically assumes that I’m a hillary supporter and you probably think I’m a liberal? Dude, you’re fucking pathetic. I’m a conservative, and people like you give us a bad name.",
"Theres no point in arguing with me when I address your actual points? Yeah thats pretty typical. Enjoy those tax breaks, yeah?",
"Well, for someone who claims to have an insanely high IQ he can’t make pretty clear observations. Also for someone who claims to be worth billions we should be allowed to fact check anyways.\n\nIt’s not like I’m asking you personally about your tax returns, because as you’re just the average citizen and not a mainstream celebrity I couldn’t care less. Granted I only like to see the net worth of accomplished and well respected professionals such as Andy Samberg and say, Idris Elba. Because I like to see how their hard work and dedication paid off. (It’s great for motivational purposes). ",
">But the people who wrote the expiry into the \n\nByrd's Rule. Who was a Democrat. That was literally the only thing stopping both cuts from being permanent. If one or the other, I'll gladly take the corporation tax cut over the personal one, with the hope that increased pressure makes it permanent, if not just extended; both benefit me. I'm not the insulting \"hyperpartisan idiot\". I think you seem to lack understanding of both civics and civility. \n\nAgain, I'm not blaming them for the content of the bill, plenty of bills are written not just by a single party, but actually can be small groups of people. They do not even have to have be written by bipartisan group. They just have to be voted on. \n\nDemocrats chose not to have a role in it. Which, by my count, doesn't really matter given there's nothing negative about it, *except for* the expiry; which is only because of Byrd's Rule, and they didn't vote for it. Which, again, they turn around and choose as a talking point, which I find hypocritical. \n\nI think I'm about done explaining my opinions and how I feel about things, I hope your weekend is as pleasant as you are. \n\n",
"Accepting people is being American. ",
"> Study how the country was founded and why the electoral college is the way it is.\n\nAs if studying the electoral college necessarily makes people believe it's a good thing? The electoral college was formed to keep illiterate farmers from voting for divisive demagogues and is rendered entirely irrelevant in the modern day due to vote being allocated by the popular vote in each state. \n\nIt now serves now purpose but to unjustly and arbitrarily give more weight to random citizens' votes. It needs to be abolished. ",
"> Again, I'm not blaming them for the content of the bill\n\nWell, the content of the bill says the tax cuts for the middle class are temporary. So the fact that you're passing the buck to the party that didn't write the bill (and wasn't invited to help write the bill) speaks volumes about your ignorance.\n\n> Democrats chose not to have a role in it.\n\nThis is so laughably wrong I can't even take you seriously any more. I swear it's like you just make up your own reality when the one we're in doesn't suit you.\n\nYou have a nice day as well now; good luck blaming Democrats for everything your own party does.",
"You should be allowed to see what a person has in their bank account? Who do you think you are?",
"Sorry it blew your mind that I didn't meet the stereotype you assigned to me. Better luck next time!",
"That’s quite literally the opposite of what I said",
"\" Also for someone who claims to be worth billions we should be allowed to fact check anyways. \"",
"Sure, when they follow the law. If someone broke into your house and just started living there would you jus \"accept them\"?",
"> I have little patience for people who try to skirt the system when I get my ass rammed if I forget to file my taxes for 1 year. \n \nYou realize that DACA recipients have to pay taxes too right? They also aren't eligible for Medicaid or AFA, so I don't know what you're talking about, and I don't think you do either.",
"Seeing as he claimed he would we should be allowed to see them considering they were important politically awhile back. Like I previously stated I couldn’t care less about your financial situation. I just feel like there should be transparency with the POTUS and he should be held accountable for things he says and does.",
"Show me where someone broke into your house. Pictures please. Evidence. Really anything. This whole \"they're in my backyard/house!\" argument is such bullshit, doesn't make any sense, and honestly should be insulting to anyone over the age of 15. If you're older than that, be ashamed of yourself. It's disgusting. ",
"Lmfao 😂",
"But done unironically... ",
"It makes sense to anyone with a brain. They are ILLEGAL aliens. ILLEGAL. Do you understand what that word means? ",
"No cuz youre ignorant",
"Yeah, that's why you deleted your last comment where you said you work at FOX! LMAO! \n\nI didn't need to try. You did all of the work for me. You're obviously a sad little troll. Your comment history speaks volumes about your views, and seeing you call someone a \"hyper partisan idiot,\" is hysterical. What a hypocrite you are! Your entire comment history is dedicated solely to deriding anyone who disagrees with your opinions. You bombard them with hyperbolic rhetoric, and then call them names. Your comments epitomize hyper partisan behavior. The: \"you tried though!\" is a nice touch, as is the; \"I actually work at FOX.\" Yeah, sure you do. Go back to playing World of Warcraft, or whatever it is that you do when you're not watching CNN. I'm just going to go ahead and block your asinine responses. \n\nYou tried though. \n \nOr:\n\nBetter luck next time! ",
"How exactly are American citizens unable to vote because of Republican efforts? Are they holding them hostage in their homes until the polls close?",
"Uh huh.",
"So itd be really easy to refute any of my points then, right? Weird that you havent done it. \n\nI think its pretty clear who has the better grasp of the facts here. You have a good one champ. ",
">It's racist because people took offense to it. Thats what rasicm means.\n\nNo the fuck it doesnt. Racist doesnt mean \"offensive\". If I called you a moron, thats not racist, you fucking moron. \n\n\n>People need to be responsible for their words and actions, and I don't want a leader for my county that isn't responsible.\n\nYou want him to be responsible for your entirely manufactured outrage. He has better things to do than worry about your hurt feelings. Jesus Christ hes the president. \n\n>You're going to keep defending him cause you think he's a good leader, and there absolutely nothing wrong with that, but there will be much criticism against him that should be tolerable at this point.\n\nThe legitimate criticism would count more if pollyannas like you didnt cry wolf at every rumor and shred of gossip that confirms your bias. \n\n\n\n",
"Why would black people sell themselves into slavery? That makes literally no sense. If that were the actual case it'd be taught in schools, but it isn't because that's not what happened. Back to Trump being an overt racist, if he weren't and didn't say they're all criminals. Why the wall? Why does Mexico want nothing to do with us now? Why would he ban Muslims if he weren't racist? Why such a hard stance against immigration then? Huh? ",
"Teachers aren't even paid enough for most of them to do more than print out a worksheet and tell you to read your textbook. What makes you think this massive group of low paid workers are going to scheme about how to indoctrinate elementary schoolers to marxism? \n\nYou are a fucking lunatic if you think they are indoctrinating elementary schoolers to Marxism.",
"Blogs and opinion pieces aren't evidence ",
"Well, I figured the notion of \"all of us supported\" ray Moore was baldy false. As is the notion that every leftist supported Clinton. \n\nIs that the point im supposed to be addressing? And why cant I also point out the hypocrisy? Why wont you address it?\n",
"How stupid are you? They sold their brethren into slavery and it is taught in school for those not too triggered to listen. He didn't ban muslims he banned travel from countries with majority muslims that was actually a continuation of what Obama started. But the media only cares when trump does it. It was done because Muslim counties hate the United States and it is far easier to temporarily ban immigration from counties that hate the us then to thoroughly vet everyone who may want to go here and commit acts of terrorism. Lastly the wall is to prevent ILLEGAL immigration as I said Trump has a problem with ILLEGAL immigration not legal. While I know from history and general knowledge a wall won't work but the general idea is to stop illegal immigration which is destroying this country.",
"That’s why the electoral college exists. Otherwise the candidates would only campaign in several of the large states. You sound very uneducated when you say things like that. ",
"Pretty sure Trump and his Nazi Republican following are ruining the country. Not brown skinned people, which you also seem to have a problem with. I should ask you the same \"how stupid are you?\" But I'm not, because I'm going to take the moral high ground, but I will say this. Your racist pro-Trump ramblings are excellent proof as to why Democrats/liberals like myself are better, smarter, and more progressive. Please enjoy what little time Trump has in office before he's inevitably impeached.",
"And it's so much better that campaigns focus much more heavily on a handful of swing states? And it's so much better that a vote in California is worth a hell of a lot less than a vote in Montana? Is that the magical electoral college system you're talking about, because it is a broken system. And yes, I *do* k ow what I'm talking about.",
"Username checks out. ",
"That he actually gets things done.. or tries to anyway. Could accomplish much more if the Dems (and some Republicans too) would, if not support him, at least work reasonably with him. I think he has some very good ideas for the country but has a huge problem containing his mouth.",
"Then what is r/t_d? Totally not a safe space right?",
"What things that he’s done do you like?",
"Case in point: you think “blogs and opinion pieces” are the evidence i’m referring to. Have a good weekend, dude. ",
"I do work at FOX. I just decided to go with another comment because I am usually more withholding about my workplace and someone tried to doxx me over it before.\n\nIt's honestly hilarious though how pissed off you are that I don't meet your CNN drone stereotype. Please give me more of your lecture on neutrality as you continue to label everyone who doesn't agree with you a CNN addict.",
"At least I’m not so full of myself that I can’t handle other people having different opinions 🤷♂️",
"It was also specifically designed to empower the voices of low population states so if a divide between rural and urban began to occur, there would be an equalization. Look at the 2 states that are responsible for Hillary's larger number of popular votes and how their county votes break down. Not even overwhelmingly blue. The electoral college worked exactly as intended.",
"Sorry for the long wait... I've been out myself. My first impression is that we have *shockingly* opposite viewpoints. That's doesn't mean we can't find common ground, but it does strike me that we are definitely looking at things from two viewpoints which means we're obviously going to disagree. That said, I feel like discussions like this are good for both sides... we need to figure out how to work together, and stop hammering wedge in. I hope you feel the same. So while my response will be a different viewpoint, please know it is with respect.\n\n> Anti-science. I assume he's referring to global warming.\n\nClimate change is definitely a part of it, but it's more than that. Yeah, pulling out of the Paris agreement was a bad sign, but not the *real* issue. Some of the first EOs Trump signed after getting into office were related to removing regulations over industry. He removed oversight that was keeping pollution in check, removed barriers to oil drilling companies, etc. He also appointed department heads that have track records of being against environmental protection. Add to that the 'banned words', which yes, was overblown, but also shows their obvious anti-science slant. Whenever there is a disagreement between science and industry, they discount the scientific findings, and come up with 'alternate facts'... that's just not logical, but here we are.\n\n> And is it worth it? If we're talking about 100,000 Americans losing jobs vs. DiCaprio losing 3' of coastline on his private beach in LA, then I'll have to take a hard pass on Leo.\n\nYes, protecting the environment and stemming climate change is absolutely worth it. While sea levels rising is certainly an issue, climate change really becomes a problem with *weather change*. Torrential downpours in some places, droughts in others, more/worse hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes... climate change isn't just about warming, it's about the earth's health as a whole. Incidentally, [this article](https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/australia-green-sea-turtles-turning-female-climate-change-raine-island-sex-temperature/) was on the front page when I just looked... editing to add the link, since it's relevant.\n\n> Anti-intellectualism. I don't really know what he's referring to here.\n\nSpeaking personally... I've had an uncomfortable number of conversations with conservatives who believe in 'cultural marxism', which started as a blatant conspiracy theory, and has been co-opted by the right as a bogeyman for anything they don't like. They openly say that kids shouldn't go to college because they are so deathly afraid of their minds being corrupted by the marxists. They refer to liberals as elitist. I've actually seen conservatives use 'intellectual' as an insult.\n\n> Racism. I have yet to see a credible instance of Trump being a racist.\n\nMaybe you're not looking for it? I've had this conversation with my brother. Unfortunately, the subject of racism is just too huge and heated to discuss in a single comment. All I can say is, if you personally aren't affected by racism, it's difficult to see it happening in everyday life. If you don't see consistent racism in Trump's comments, you probably agree with his statements. I'm not saying that makes you a racist, but I do think the fact that a HUGE amount of the country (and other countries) takes offense should be an indicator that there's something there.\n\n> Sexism\n\nYou're talking about sexism in the corporate sense. As if Trump is passing over women for promotions. I'm pretty sure that's not what OP was talking about when he wrote the list. I did a quick search... here's a [great list](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/donald-trump-sexism-tracker-every-offensive-comment-in-one-place/). If you read that and truly think it's all just 'locker room talk', so be it, but it will say a lot about you as a person if that's your defense.\n\n> I would argue Bill Clinton is the bigger sexist for getting his dick sucked by Monica in the Oval Office while being married.\n\nIt's wrong when a Democrat does it, but 'boys will be boys' when it's a Republican. Got it.\n\nBut the bigger issue here is you don't seem to understand the real problem with it. While what Clinton did wasn't right, at least it was consensual, and he didn't push himself on her. Trump literally bragged about sexual assault on camera. Sexual assault. Doing something sexual to someone without their consent. Are you really going to argue that Clinton is worse? Really?\n\n> Laughingstock to the rest of the world. Meh. It's really just Europe. We're on pretty good terms with Asia. Similarly to the aforementioned Paris Climate Accord, the UN is another thing we provide a disproportionate amount to compared to other countries.\n\nI find the people who make claims like this are protectionist, and really don't understand foreign policy, industry, or the fact that we are all humans sharing a planet. \n\nFirst of all, Europe is a fucking huge part of the world and economy to write off as 'just Europe'. To the level of I almost marked you off as a troll when I read that the first time. Europe is important, and the fact that we have lost good will with pretty much all of them should be terrifying. Not from a possible war standpoint... they're too mature for that... more from a 'what the hell is wrong with our president' standpoint. When dealing with Europe, he acts like a 4th grader. I'm surprised he hasn't said, \"I know you are but what am I?\" in official communications.\n\nSecond, which parts of Asia do you think like us? Japan is just being respectful, like they always are. China isn't exactly loving us right now. Who in Asia are we on good terms with, exactly? Duterte?\n\nLastly, the U.S. is the current world power. We keep the world's economy going. The dollar continues to be the standard that more currencies are measured against. You can take dollars to most places in the world to be exchanged. We also have *insane* military spending and presence, and we help keep the peace on behalf of countries who can't defend themselves. Should we? Well... I liken it to being a kid in a schoolyard. If you feel like you can watch a bully beat up someone weaker and laugh from the sidelines, you probably think if a country doesn't have a strong enough military, they deserve to be killed. I personally don't. And if someone is going to step in and help, it only makes sense that the current world power would be a part of it. So yes, that means we spend a lot of money in other nations.\n\nYou know what else we do? Import. Whether you like it or not, truly 'American made' barely exists. If the world's economy suffers, so do we. We cannot maintain America without other countries. It just doesn't work. My point being, if we are going to stop spending money outside of our borders, we aren't going to be the world power for long. The rest of the countries will trade and manufacture, and we'll lose our spot. Sure, we have a helluva lot of power, but that power can go away.\n\n> And with the crazy amount of foreign aid we give, I think a lot of countries are just butthurt that we finally have an administration that does not want to be an open checkbook to the world. And I think we, the taxpayers, should be supportive of that.\n\nYou know what currently DWARFS the amount of money we're spending on aid to other countries? Military spending. Maybe we should start there first? As a taxpayer, I would much prefer to take some of the blank check we give to the military and use it on more foreign aid.",
"Or maybe you just hang around shitty people? Also you mentioned people in high school. You know, the time in a young person's life where they're still extremely immature. As for your dad? Well then he's racist. What can I say? But I can just about guarantee I've had more life experience than you bud and I can tell you that you're just hanging with shitty people. ",
"It is impossible. Use your head",
">but as soon as someone has an opposing belief they say their ideas are stupid. \n\nBasic science denial is stupid.\n\nAaand you lost the point",
"Try basic science denial is stupid and so is racism.",
"Trump voters and republicans that deny basic science",
"Lol says a trump supporter",
">Also, economists generally refrain from dealing in normative theory\n\nAnd yet here you are using normative theory while I'm simply refuting your use of normative theory.\n\nCC is so very obviously caused by humans, it's not too late, and we can solve it.\n\nOf course, that doesn't necessarily mean it *requires* drastic action. You forgot #6 on the list, which is a completely reasonable thing to believe.\n\n*Other problems are bigger than CC and should get priority in a world of limited resources.*\n\nFunny how your list fails to mention the most popular opinion among CC contrarians. Maybe because it's a valid point that you don't want to concede? Rekt.",
"> And yet here you are using normative theory while I'm simply refuting your use of normative theory.\n\nI'm not a sheltered and insulated economist. I actually work and deal with reality. I have a job and actually deal in the market and all that jazz. Refusing to deal in normative theory is either an extremely privileged position or an extremely fucking dumb position.\n\n>CC is so very obviously caused by humans, it's not too late, and we can solve it.\n\nGlad we agree on something.\n\n>Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean it requires drastic action. You forgot #6 on the list, which is a completely reasonable thing to believe.\n\n>Other problems are bigger than CC and should get priority in a world of limited resources.\n\nBasically nobody is making that argument don't be fucking obtuse.\n\n>Rekt.\n\nLewl.",
"Facts don't care about your feelings hunny",
"Wait, what? That's the first time you've heard that argument? It's the only reasonable argument against the push for CC policy. You must have some stupid friends.\n\nOh, nvm, I get it. You're one of those people who demonizes your opposition and just assumes they're all idiots. Great way to live your life. Again, get woke - like me.",
"Lol.",
"I live in California.",
"Lol you don't think something's going on? Trump is acting really suspicious. He doesn't like being questioned about the topic.",
"Communism is when the government does things",
"Booooooooooooooooooom! I love winning! :D",
"You dare use the words facts????? An abnormality isn't a new gender genius. ",
"Marxism actually holds capitalism in a positive light in terms of societal and technological progression. Marx saw capitalism as a transitional ideology that would take us from the scientifically repressive age of feudalism/monarchism and catapult us into a communist society of abundance. \n\nNow, Marx also (sometimes debatably) called for violent revolution against the ruling class, but I still think it's important to understand that Marxism makes it very clear that capitalism was completely necessary for human advancement, and we can only think about phasing it out once we are wealthy enough to provide in abundance to all. \n\nI'd argue that capitalism is inherently evil, because it's a system of direct exploitation. A society with a ruling/working class will always be unequal. ",
"Lol.",
"> They don't know how to debate. They just throw childish insults around.\n\n...\n\n> It is impossible. Use your head\n\nSo this is how people are supposed to debate? ",
"But it's not a ruling/working class. Capitalism allows for advancement in responsibility and thus is classless.",
"How is this ironic? Isn't he just admitting that he's one of the many stupid trump supporters?",
"No I didn’t you dumb ass can’t you read or just not comprehend? “I sort of” \n\nIt’s hyperbole anyway, you dumb fuck ",
">The electoral college worked exactly as intended.\n\nThe fact that you mentioned 'popular vote' and 'electoral college worked exactly as intended' is your clue that, no, it did not work exactly as intended.",
"Capitalism requires the proletariat to exist. Unless everyone has ownership of the means of production, there will exist a group of people who are required to sell their labor to the ruling class. \n\nThe ability to escape the working class doesn't nullify the existence of the classes themselves.",
"Hahaha you claim moral high ground and yet do exactly what you say makes you superior. I have no problem with black people and have said nothing against them if you think I have you are not only stupid but also delusional. All people can be racist the sooner you and people like you realize it the sooner things can maybe one day get fixed. It doesn't matter what happened to their ancestors you see racism generates more racism on both sides by being angry and prejudice against one culture or race the other race is then incentivized to be racist back. Giving black or any other people a pass based off of the past is what created these people you claim to hate. Your stupidity has blinded you to what I've said, I'm not pro Trump I'm anti republican and anti democrat i voted for trump because he was better then Hillary in my first statement I said two party systems are a failure. You fail to see the bigger picture while I am aware you are dumb I don't think the democrat party as a whole is same as the republican party both are just as evil corrupt and stupid as the other but there are good people on either side. Letting anger and disagreement blind you is pretty damn dumb instead of listening you just insist you are intellectually superior and walk away. If both sides do that nothing gets accomplished so go ahead say he isn't your president or whatever when he gets re-elected you can wonder why and maybe one day realize it's people like you, people so indignant towards facts they don't like because they aren't nice. Reality hurts and maybe one day you'll realize it or you won't and we will get someone worse then Trump.",
"I never really liked him outside of him trash talking all of the GOP through the primaries. The biggest reason why I supported him was to send a \"fuck you\" to Washington. Probably not the best choice in hindsight, but as a frustrated voter that just wants a decent working political system, it didn't really feel like there was much else I could do besides elect that idiot. If I had known a bunch of brainless morons would latch onto him like they did I would have never voted for him.",
"No u ",
"No scheming needs to be done. The textbooks are filled with revisionist history. As you yourself admit, they print out worksheets and tell you to read the textbook. It’s no coincidence millennials prefer socialism over capitalism, think there are 73 genders, aren’t getting married and starting families, have parents willing to inject them with hormones, are flush with white guilt, etc. It’s all a direct result of decades of social marxist indoctrination. ",
"I’d be annoyed and uncomfortable too if I was questioned about the same thing, by the same people, for over a year. Just like I’m annoyed at people who claim they “just know” based on small mannerisms rather than literally any kind of concrete evidence.",
"I love it, you are telling me that I did not hear what I heard and am just making it up so people I will never meet give me karma points. It just doesn't make sense. I am not going to tell you that you have never heard some idiot talk about safe spaces or whatever. I just can't understand how you guys carry on like you do. Facts come your way and your response is \"No they didn't\". And just so I don't meet any snowflakes I am just going to stay outside the USA until trump is gone. Thats right, I am not even in the US at the moment!",
"Lol k have a good one mate",
"Since you take things so literally, I'll spell it out. Racist means to discriminate or show prejudice towards a certain race. If someone feels attacked for their race, rasicm is happening regardless of intentions.\n\nI want the president to take responsibility for what he says and start speaking for his people instead of himself. I don't understand what is more straightforward than that, you keep spewing shit factoids at me that i don't care about. The president should care about he things he says and the people he leads. Jesus Christ he's the president.\n\nLegitimate criticism would count more if you were not an ignorant Trump supporting buffoon. I expect the same reply I've been getting; one sided arguments i never intended on having.",
"Me telling you to think critically is an insult?",
"Trump's swimming in your head. He's probably got a penthouse up there. Unhinging you at every moment.",
"Sorry, but the real world is based on merit. Do you work?\n\nAnd just like u said, had it been a merit system then you wouldn't be here. ",
"Nah, my mum wasn't born in the USA so she's not eligible but I'll pass on your support. ",
"snowflake you gotta start learning to deal with opposing political views, or just stay in your safe space\n\n",
"I work in a company where everything is based on merit, yes.\n\nThe US immigration system is not solely based on merit. Based on your post history, if your forebears are as dumb as you are they sure as fuck wouldn't have made it over here if the immigration system was merit based.\n\nTry writing full sentences with completely spelled out words and maybe some day you just might be able to play the card you just tried to play.",
"\"Math is hard.\" Especially hard for certain groups.",
"The means of production can be purchased. Do you have a laptop or a lawnmower? Congrats! Yoi now have the means of production and can directly sell the results of your labor to anyone you chose.",
">I love it, you are telling me that I did not hear what I heard and am just making it up so people I will never meet give me karma points.\n\nYep. Because you're making shit up. Lmao! It's so obvious it isn't even really that funny. It is funny how you grasp desperately to it though. \n\n>It just doesn't make sense.\n\nTell me about it.\n\n>Facts come your way and your response is \"No they didn't\".\n\nYour story is an anecdote. A fake anecdote. Not fact.\n\n>And just so I don't meet any snowflakes I am just going to stay outside the USA until trump is gone. Thats right, I am not even in the US at the moment!\n\nLol. Nobody cares.",
"Yea sorry, you have no chance of learning anything from this if you won't even empathise with the idea that you are wrong. If you only accept the popular vote then you only accept the popular vote. Do you not see the problem with that? It's circular reasoning, you're only explanation of why you're right is basically \"well duh obviously\" which is fucking absurd when talking about something as complex as politics.\n\nThe electoral college was carefully thought out to accomplish specific goals and it accomplished those goals. Those goals are reasonable they are for the survival of the country and its ability to protect *your* rights and life.\n\nCounterintuitive doesn't mean wrong, just requires more thinking to figure out what's right. ",
"Better to be short and concise. Rather then long unhinged paragraphs. \n\nGood that you work though. Surprised me a bit on that.",
"I would not be shocked to find out you're employed, but I would be shocked if you performed any actual work.",
"See, I give you an upvote now because you listened. That was good. Kept it short.",
"Once again, where is this indoctrination. Where in my textbooks am I being told how to think on transgender people? \n\nThroughout all of my schooling only once in an optional course was transgender people even mentioned and the entire story was a kid had a deformed penis so the parents decided to cut it off and have him live as a woman which caused him to have mental issues and kill himself eventually",
"Thanks, Obama!",
"Yes, yes they are. It's actually stopped being funny though. ",
" Doesn't look like that from this end",
"quote miner",
"fake news",
"Sad!",
">you have no chance of learning anything from this if you won't even empathise with the idea that you are wrong. \n\nGood thing I'm not. \n\n>\n>The electoral college was carefully thought out to accomplish specific goals \n\n...by not allowing the common man to vote for the executive. The common man now votes for the president, meaning the electoral college is not what it was intended to be. \n\nYou're very good at typing a lot of words and saying very little. If you expect me to read all that nonsense you'll need to put more substance in there. ",
"It's a racist's opinion that others are lesser than him. So yes, racism is just an opinion XD\n\nThe Nazis, kkk, blm, Muslims, all of them have very racist opinions :D especially democrats, they're the most racist because they believe the color of skin has anything to do with the content of your character. Dont believe me? Go ask their opinion of white males xD",
"I find it very confusing that this survey of “UK adults” is used to draw conclusions about people who were 17 or younger at the time. Is the term “adult” used differently there? ",
"umm... not an argument",
"Are you really going to pretend \"use your head\" isn't an insult?\n\nTry being honest.",
"Haha. Keep on truckin’ (I think I just dated myself)",
"It's not pretending? Sorry you took it that way",
"You honestly think \"use your head\" is not in any way insulting?",
"Trump isn't racist but would be funny if he was ",
"Lol good joke but that ape hurt my 401k a lot ",
"I think you said it in a perfectly articulate way, but Reddit has a hard time upvoting anything positive for Trump. They just needed a bit of extra support lol. ",
"Derp, that's not even a plausible lie.",
"Had someone with a semblance of decision making ability been in office, we would be way ahead of where we are now. Basically obama prevented us from 8 years of trumpian economic growth ",
"That's SJW's, thats like saying all republicans are nazis, you understand this right?\n\nAnd racism is an opinion, you're right, but its like \"In my opinion, 3 is a bigger number than 4\" which, yes, is an opinion, but it is wrong.",
"Investors enjoyed one of the longest bull markets under Obama. We've yet to see Trumpian policies take full effect, but as he continues to blunder and isolate America we'll likely see declines.",
"Thanks dude! And I know what you mean, I'm in no way a Trump supporter hell I'm not even a Republican or a Democrat I just hate that people are so brutal to each other.",
"Yikes.",
"Wow, the level of virtue in you is strong! Make sure everyone else knows to. \nLet’s be honest, when you work in most inner cities, it’s almost impossible to get a city job if you’re white. \nWhat you just said is a load of shit. Yes, some companies move whites up quicker, and more likely to employ. I get that, but government jobs, and most major corporations, they diversity hire,in other words, they hire non white. Because they’re virtue signaling cucks like you. ",
"They down voted you for asking for a source. That’s redditors favorite thing to say! But not I guess when it’s time for them to provide them",
"You lefty’s are just as bad as the Baptist and Alex Jones, you’re such puritans, you make the Salem witch trials seem like a game show, and the conspiracy theories you believe are worthy of infowars",
"I didn't mean it that way, no",
"That’s a mighty fine freak out you’re having there, snowflake!",
"Whats great about you guys is that you can't believe anything that is not good for the cause, like the very believable conversations that I have been having with people close to me. But you do believe very unbelievable, things from the trump people daily. But you are sure that it can't be true that my brother and friend said some stupid shit. My brother and friend have been saying stupid shit for years, I have seen them trying to pick up ladies in bars, sometimes its ok, sometimes its not pretty, and some times they say stupid shit abou trump. I would like to know two things, firstly on what grounds are you accusing me of making up an anecdote, and secondly, how do you believe that you are going to be saved from the ravages of globalization by an INTERNATIONAL businessman who owes millions of dollars to foreign interests, banks, and governments?",
"He's most likely a troll. ",
"You’re right, he’s a Republican. I was questioning your logic on how he wasn’t shady because you seem to be a Republican. You didn’t really answer my question and it seems odd that you don’t realize he’s a conman.",
"He's doing good by the American people. That's all i care about",
"No, there is absolutely something wrong with you if you looked at all the evidence and were still left with the opinion that voting for Trump was the best option. ",
"I'm confident because I'm right. ",
"alt-right, kek",
"What?",
"do you actually believe this? if so I'd like to have a civil, non-emotional discussion with you about why I believe you are wrong. if you think you are capable of this please respond with a few examples",
"No discussion needed. I said people in there are delusional.\n\n- characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.\n\n- paranoia based on or having faulty judgment; \n\n- mistaken\n\n\n\nThat definition must be correct for at least one “people” in the The_D by statistics alone.",
"Uh, can we blacklist this image? This is like the 5th time it's been reposted",
"I think you’re forgetting none of them served 8 years as president. 👉😎👉",
"👉😎👉Zoop",
"Good bot",
"http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy",
"http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy",
"This Trump presidency definitely enraged me for the first few months, and it’s still hard to be civil to people I know who keep defending all his shit actions, unprovoked. But being in a red state, growing up in a conservative family, you learn how to approach things more effectively. And hopefully keep most of your friends and family!",
"Why is that in an opinion column?",
">“suggested Mr. Trump’s election deserves at least some credit”\n\nIs the quote that article used from it's primary soure, which is unfortunately behind a pay wall. \n\nI would just like to point out that most of the economic effects at this point are from the stock market's direction. That is to say, based on speculation. For example: I actually love that they cut corporate taxes, but how much have stocks reacted to the tax cuts, even though nobody has even paid Q1 taxes.",
"Why are two separate accounts responding to this dead thread? ",
"Way to cherry pick. Lol and you replied with two accounts. Amateur. ",
"Just seems strange that the article is an op-ed, but tries to sound authoritative.",
"I only have one account buddy.",
"Why did two accounts reply on a dead thread deep down? Is the other one a bot? Only you should be notified of my response. ",
"I have no idea. Maybe you have a cyber stalker?",
"I’d hope not. I’m not that interesting ;)",
"Based on a survey.. which was Dem weighted. Still favored trump. ",
"Who are you anyway? Why’d you respond to a dead thread. How were you notified. ",
"So it wasn't even a study, it was just a survey? That's even less indicative of factual information. :(",
"Lol shift the goal posts. Economists whose job it is to determine these things, with more dems polled, say its Trumps doing and you can’t handle it... so better shift it. ",
"I'm not shifting anything. I'm just pointing out how misleading the article is.",
"... And if you have ask... 🙄",
"LOL I didn't see this before. I love how this salty liberal went straight for the personal attacks as they usually do. ",
"I do support facts - just not your facts ",
"> Salem witch trials\n\nExcept liberals aren't out killing others directly after accusing them. That is a horrible comparison.",
"If that was true, then [Fox News](http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5) wouldn't be the #1 most watched news network in America.",
"1. Trump's tax cuts for corporations/wealthy were *PERMANENT.*\n\n2. Trump's tax cuts for the poor/middle class were *TEMPORARY.*\n\nWhy are poor people not entitled to their money when rich people are? Trickle-down economics has been debunked for the last 50 years since the rich [hoard their wealth](https://www.npr.org/2017/05/31/530843665/top-20-percent-of-americans-hoard-the-american-dream) instead of \"create jobs.\"\n\nWho pays for the $1.4 BILLION these tax cuts add to the deficit? The poor, since the wealthiest's tax cuts don't expire.\n\n[**Here's how Trump's tax cuts are redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich.**](https://www.npr.org/2017/11/14/562884070/charts-heres-how-gop-s-tax-breaks-would-shift-money-to-rich-poor-americans)",
">corporations/wealthy\n\nYour ignorance is shown in your first sentence but please group them together if it helps you push the democratic narrative. \n\nCorporate CEO's and the like are the rich you speak of. They have to file their own taxes personally. The corporations and businesses that employ millions of Americans are the ones who receive the tax cut that you are so upset about. You can't group them together since the mega rich tax rates were slashed a whopping 2.6% to 37%, the corporate tax rate was slashed to 21% from 39ish%. The poor get to keep WAY MORE of their money than the rich. I only have to pay 24%. The majority of Americans pay no more than 12%, they also received a nearly doubled standard deduction as well as a income tax rate cut. I don't see anyone changing the tax rates for the poor to middle income individuals after 5 years, but if they do, it will likely go back to where it was when all your heroes were in office.\n\nCorporate tax rates in the US are one of the many things that kept jobs and growth dampened in the U.S. \n\nThe bonuses and raises are already happening as a result of the proposed tax cuts. You could be optimistic about the benefits of the tax reform but you might suffer from Trump Delusion Syndrome like so many others.\n",
"[The numbers don't lie.](https://www.npr.org/2017/11/14/562884070/charts-heres-how-gop-s-tax-breaks-would-shift-money-to-rich-poor-americans)\n\n\nFunny how you conveniently failed to address:\n\n> *Who pays for the $1.4 BILLION these tax cuts add to the deficit?*\n\nCould it be the slashing of benefits/social services primarily used by the poor that the Republicans love to kill so much? Noooooo, that would *never* happen!\n\n",
"The numbers don't lie but they don't help your narrative either. You are arguing tax cuts but say they should have gone to the poor? Well they did. The poorest don't even have to pay taxes and they benefit the most from taxes on the wealthy.\n\nWho pays for the 1.4 Billion over 10 years? The same people that had to pay it when the Obama administration raised it over 1 Trillion in 1 year-2 years in a row. Where was the outrage then?\n\n",
"> The numbers don't lie but they don't help your narrative either. \n\nOnly way you could say that is if you didn't read the article. Now you're just playing dumb to avoid admitting you're wrong.\n\n> Who pays for the 1.4 Billion over 10 years? The same people that had to pay it when the Obama administration\n\nYou realize resorting to whataboutism fallacy in this context means you're agreeing with me?\n\nAt least no one can claim Republicans are fiscally *\"conservative\"* anymore. Can't stand in their way of redistributing wealth from the poor to the rich by disproportionately slashing taxes for the richest, while making tax cuts for the poor expire, and not funding the $1.4 trillion it adds to the deficit so they have an excuse to gut even more benefits/social services that the poor primarily depend on.\n\nFunny how you glaringly chose to play dumb about that fact, as well. I'm detecting a trend that's swiftly making you not deserve the effort.",
"The tax cuts numbers don't lie. The npr article you listed is an opinion piece, based on estimates from a partisan think tank that is well known to manipulate data and use outdated economic models to help Democrats push their own twisted narrative. I can't believe people still take their data seriously. \n\n\nJust because I follow my answer with a question doesn't mean it's a whataboutism. If you want to know how deficits and debt are paid look at past budgets, or you can scream \"whataboutism\" and not answer my question. \n\nThe idea that tax cuts for the wealthy is income redistribution is a joke. \n\nThe poor and the wealthy's tax cuts have the same expiration date so you can fuck off with all the Schumerisms while you turn a blind eye to facts and read/link sensationalist speculation articles.",
"> opinion piece, based on estimates from a partisan think tank that is well known to manipulate data and use outdated economic models to help Democrats push their own twisted narrative.\n\nThe fact you've resorted to such ridiculous conspiracy theories really speaks to how much you refuse to be taken seriously.\n\nThere's a reason you're unable to actually cite any of that bullshit.\n",
"https://www.wsj.com/articles/tax-policy-center-propaganda-1506889612\n\nE: In case you hit a paywall on WSJ \n\n\"*By The Editorial Board\nOct. 1, 2017 4:26 p.m. ET\n338 COMMENTS*\n\n*Republicans face an uphill battle on tax reform, not least because opponents are willing to invent evidence to stop it. Take Friday’s Tax Policy Center report claiming to be clairvoyant about details of the Republican reform “framework” that haven’t been proposed.*\n\n*The Tax Policy Center is a joint project of the left-leaning Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute that the media routinely labels “nonpartisan.” Its record of hostility to any GOP tax reform that cuts tax rates shows the opposite. And the latest evidence of bias is its willingness to jump to conclusions about the GOP plan before crucial details are known.*\n\n*The center’s progressive economists released a “preliminary” estimate of the GOP tax plan that claimed the proposal would “reduce federal revenues by $2.4 trillion over the first ten years and $3.2 trillion over the subsequent decade.” Also: The top 1% of taxpayers would “receive about 50 percent of the total tax benefit.” The press immediate broadcast this with headlines like “Republican Tax Cut Would Benefit Wealthy and Corporations Most, Report Finds.” Political mission accomplished.*\n\n*Yet the analysis is impossibly specific, given that last week’s blueprint excluded the income ranges for the individual brackets of 12%, 25% and 35%; the value of the expanded child tax credit, and when that would phase out; rates for pass-through businesses, or safeguards for abuse that may limit who can claim the income or how much; the discount rate at which cash and other corporate assets will be invited back to the United States; which deductions will be eliminated; and many other details that would be essential for any honest score.*\n\n*The report says it based its guesses on the assumptions of the House GOP’s “Better Way” blueprint from 2016, yet that campaign document will certainly differ from any bill that emerges this year. Last week’s GOP framework explicitly included discretion for committees in Congress to iron out details. Case in point: The paper doesn’t assume a fourth tax-rate bracket for high earners that the framework left as an option.*\n\n*The larger issue concerns economic assumptions. The Tax Policy Center assumes almost no growth impact from tax cuts, whether on capital or income. When growth increases or revenues rise after a tax cut, as they did after the 2003 tax cut, the center’s progressives attribute it to something else.*\n\n*The tax center is essentially consigning the U.S. economy to a fate of slow growth as far as the Obama “secular stagnation” crowd can see. Yet if the rate of GDP growth speeds up from the Obama pace of 2% a year to 3%, incomes would rise and revenues would increase to the Treasury by some $2.5 trillion.*\n\n*Partisans can honestly debate economic assumptions, but the Tax Policy Center betrays its bias by making premature guesses based on partisan assumptions. The center did a similar sandbag job on Mitt Romney’s tax reform proposal during the 2012 campaign, claiming it would have to raise taxes on the middle-class and poor because it wouldn’t reduce certain loopholes. But those loopholes were very much on the table in the Romney plan.*\n\n*The lesson for Republicans is that they had better be prepared to fight back—early and often. House Ways and Means Chairman Kevin Brady called the report “misleading, unfounded, and biased,” and they shouldn’t hesitate to describe the Tax Policy Center as the anti-reform propaganda shop that it is.*\"\n \nWhen you read articles like you linked, do you not question the accuracy of \"estimates created by *think tank xyz*\" or ever wonder who funds the think tanks that create these estimates and speculations? \n\nUnfortunately in today's political climate, we are all hard pressed to find accurate speculations that are without partisan influences. Of course the largest influence is money. When you read \"think tank\", you might as well be reading \"estimates and speculations based on whatever model yields results favorable with most of our donor base\". \n\nThere is even a constant squabble about which ones are leaning left or right, this one contradicts the another and so on. Fortunately you only have to follow the money to know who's likely on which team, not that it matters because they are all basically lobbying for political agendas.\n\nhttps://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/03/03/think-tank-employees-tend-to-support-democrats\n\nIf you read that article, you can see that both the Dems and GOP have these think tanks batting for them. Some have been switch hitters over the decades and all the politicians absolutely love to scream the results of whichever one falls into their favor. The media only repeats and amplifies this Think Tank guessing game of what the future holds, while the public sucks it all in like it's fresh clean air. Fact is, think tanks are filthy masters of manipulation funded by the establishment. It's a sad state of affairs when political bias from public persuaders cloaks itself in knowledge for a better tomorrow. \n\nWe can make this the longest thread on Reddit, or you can quit calling facts conspiracies and playing party politics by linking think tank speculation articles. Either way you have yet to list something that is happening that doesn't benefit American citizens.\n\n\n \n\n",
"The fact that this is the 3rd time you've made an argument that hinges entirely on being disingenuous speaks volumes that no matter how hard you try, even you can't polish this turd.\n\nCopy/pasting the entire contents of a [***CONSERVATIVE OP-ED***](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wall_Street_Journal#Political_stance) to beef up the size of your comment isn't fooling anyone.\n\nYou're only demonstrating how weak your case is when the best you got is an opinion article that inaccurately tries to frame [***\"non-partisan\"***](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Policy_Center) sources as partisan in order to [poison the well](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well) because it's impossible to defend [the actual numbers of Trump's tax plan.](https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/corporate-tax-cuts-skew-to-shareholders-and-ceos-not-workers-as-administration)\n\n**CBPP.ORG:**\n\n> [***\"Corporate Tax Cuts Skew to Shareholders and CEOs, Not Workers as Administration Claims -\nEventual Spending Cuts or Tax Increases to Pay for Corporate Rate Cuts Could Leave Most Workers Worse Off\"***](https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/corporate-tax-cuts-skew-to-shareholders-and-ceos-not-workers-as-administration)\n\nThanks for showing everyone the only way to defend Trump robbing the poor to feed the rich is by lying and misrepresenting facts. It really helps reinforce how much Trump and his supporter's hypocritically rely on \"fake news\" because even they know the truth is too ugly to admit. Which is why they project so hard in a desperate attempt to normalize their guilt (*\"If everyone else cheats, it's not bad when WE do it!\"*). Because 2 wrongs totally make a right 9_9 Stunningly deep logic /s. Wake me when the GOP matures past a 5 year old's grasp of ethics. So much for the \"moral majority\"...\n\n**Who do you think pays for the $1.4 TRILLION this so-called \"conservative\" tax plan ads to the deficit?** Sure as fuck ain't corporations or the rich. Guess the [Republicans were lying all those times they cried about the deficit, too.](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-28/most-economists-agree-trump-tax-plan-will-widen-budget-deficit) What a surprise.",
"HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! You linked a wiki page on the TPC and poisoning the well? What are you? A 12 year old that just learned how to use the internet?\n\nAnyway, you seem almost threatened by me copying an article, I only did it because I assumed you didn't subscribe to the WSJ, probably because you are 12 and your allowance amount won't allow it.\n \nNon-partisan doesn't mean un-biased or objective you incorrigible child. A truth bomb just blew up on you and fact fragments hit your little undeveloped brain and all you can do is link outdated speculative articles with false numbers from proposed tax plans before the final plan was even drafted and signed into law. \n\nYou are still stuck in the MSM shit tornado from before the bill was passed. \n>actual numbers. \n\nBAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!! \n\nHAHAHAHAHAHHA! Go to bed kid. I'm done..",
"> You linked a wiki page on the TPC and poisoning the well? What are you? A 12 year old that just learned how to use the internet?\n\nI linked those articles because they prove your source biased and employing a disingenuous fallacy. If a 12 year old just learning the internet could figure that out, why couldn't you? \n\n\n\n**CBPP.ORG:**\n\n> [***\"Corporate Tax Cuts Skew to Shareholders and CEOs, Not Workers as Administration Claims -\nEventual Spending Cuts or Tax Increases to Pay for Corporate Rate Cuts Could Leave Most Workers Worse Off\"***](https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/corporate-tax-cuts-skew-to-shareholders-and-ceos-not-workers-as-administration)\n\nNo matter how pathetically you cower behind ad hominem attacks, it doesn't make the evidence that proves you wrong go away. You're only pointing out how little of argument you actually have.\n\nHard to look like a tough guy when you're falling on your face.",
"Just another link from another biased think tank with future telling that favors your narrative? \n\nHow can you prove someone wrong with that?\n\nSpeculation is not evidence or fact. Especially considering your biased sources.\n\nFalling on my face? Even though you obviously can't comprehend what a think tank is or does, you have failed to give a single fact, you call the facts I provide conspiracies, and you haven't answered a single question only because the only answers will prove you wrong and destroy your narrative. \n\nI have to give it to you though, you can talk the talk. I can't wait till you give the Chewbacca Defense.\n\n\n\n",
"> Just another link from another biased think tank \n\nEasy to play dumb, isn't? Thanks for continuing to demonstrate your only argument is willful ignorance.\n\n[You really do make this too easy](https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/reconciliationrecommendationssfc.pdf) :)",
"So speculation is evidence...like a cold hard fact?",
"[You just can't run away from the facts fast enough:](https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115th-congress-2017-2018/costestimate/reconciliationrecommendationssfc.pdf)\n\n> ***\"On net, deficits would increase by\n$38 billion in 2018, by $926 billion from 2018 to 2022, and by $1,414 billion from 2018 to 2027\"***\n\nNice try moving the goal posts by cowering behind semantics now. We already know it's impossible for you to argue honestly, so are there any more dirty trick you *haven't* tried yet? It's getting exhausting calling them out 1-by-1 as you keep running away.",
">It's getting exhausting calling them out 1-by-1 as you keep running away.\n\nYou just ran away from another one of my questions. Is speculation from a biased think tank the same as a fact? Instead you link something on a different subject than your claim of wealth redistribution.\n\nThe FACT is you just linked ANOTHER outdated cost estimate based on a senate finance committee's proposal from NOVEMBER 16, 2017 that didn't pass into law. Final mark ups of the bill weren't completed yet. Either way the current deficit estimates are based on a very conservative growth rate. Taxes are only one way to decrease debt and deficits. The big deficit contributor is out of control spending, not cutting taxes for corporations.\n\nTrump has passed a tax plan that will increase the deficit an estimated 1.4 trillion, OVER TEN YEARS! That more to the deficit doesn't hurt like unemployment hurts Americans. A stagnant economy hurts the American people, and growth can eliminate the deficit.\n\nSo now that we have made it full circle. \n\nFY 2010 - Obama's first budget created a $1.294 trillion deficit.\n\nFY 2011 - This budget contributed $1.3 trillion to the debt.\n\nFY 2012 - The deficit was $1.087 trillion. \n\nFY 2013 - This was the first Obama budget where the deficit, $679 billion, was less than $1 trillion. Thank sequestration, which forced a 10 percent cut in spending.\n\nAfter 2013 sequestration, the deficit had no choice but to fall. \n\n Can you tell me where the democratic outrage was when the deficit was raised over 1 trillion for 2 YEARS under the Obama administration compared to Trump's 1.4 trillion over TEN years?\n\nCan you tell me where the democratic outrage was when the 2013 spending cuts to social programs for the poor were made and passed by the Obama administration?\n\nCan you answer those two questions? \n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n",
"I love how your only resort now is to \"Whatabout\" Democrats because you're demonstrating [just like everyone else that Trump's tax cuts are impossible to defend.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/01/30/trump-tax-cuts/?utm_term=.0ef5b278cbec)\n\nAll you can do cower behind phony outrage about false equivalencies instead of actually staying on topic because even you know there's no reason to make poor/middle class tax cuts expire while the rich/corporation's are permanent.\n\nGlad you at least gave up the tired excuse of \"partisan sources\" and acknowledged how anti-conservative Trump's tax bill is. Republicans specifically brand themselves as ***CONSERVATIVE*** to stand out from Democrats. They, *of all people,* hold themselves to a higher standard and this just further proves the only thing they truly care about isn't \"conservatism\" - but making the wealthy even richer.\n\nBecause trickle-down economics TOTALLY works, right? It makes so much more sense to stimulate supply-side rather than the demand, right?",
"So you can't answer those questions?\n",
"I don't have to because they're irrelevant whataboutism fallacies you're only employing out of desperation to avoid staying on topic of defending Trump's tax cuts.\n\n**It's Republicans that proudly brand themselves as \"Conservative\"** - not Democrats. The fallacy is so pathetic it even falls apart as a false equivalency.\n\nWhether you want to take the coward's way out by deflecting with fallacies [doesn't change the facts](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/theworldpost/wp/2018/01/30/trump-tax-cuts/?utm_term=.0ef5b278cbec) no matter how hard you try to run away from them. Nobody who actually has truth on their side would need to resort to your deceitful tactics. That's really all that needs to be said.",
"If truly believed that you are right and I am wrong you would answer those questions. You cannot answer those questions without proving yourself wrong. ",
"Fuck your fallacies. You lost and now all you can do is cry that I'm not playing along with your attempt to deflect. Re-read my comment since this is the 2nd time you've willfully ignored the reasons your irrelevant questions don't deserve answers. How pathetic that all you can do is double down on your deflection instead of stay on topic. Clearly you've given up, so thanks for playing.",
"If it weren't for double standards the Democrats wouldn't have any at all. No answers, proves this point. ",
"Hey, if deflecting blame onto absurd false equivalencies is sufficient mental gymnastics for you then it's clear you don't want to be taken seriously.",
"Explain these \"false equivalencies\" you keep yapping about. It's the same deficit and funding for social programs.\n\nI am not deflecting anything, unlike you. I have answered your silly questions. ",
"Here is another one. Glad I could contribute. :)"
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"Never let the gas go below a quarter tank. Makes the engine run better. ",
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"we need more of these",
"Empire Builder?",
"It would be awesome to get more funding for a better national rail system in the US. It's a fun way to travel even if it's not efficient for a country as big as ours.",
"LPT: That trough is not there to pee in.",
"I think they inverted the image. ",
"Wow. This is so cool. Where / what / when / how much is it?",
"That's so you can't see the upcoming 30mph curve that you're taking three times too fast!",
"I like the design of those chairs. Has a space scifi feel to it.",
"Too soon 😂",
"Southwest united states. Glass topped viewing car. Varies because there's not many, depends where it is. Not that expensive. ",
"I think I may be available on many lines, I was catching the train in Wisconsin and it had a car like that ",
"They are called the Sightseer Lounge or the Observation Car and are found on every Long-distance train West of Chicago that runs Super Liner cars. They are also on the Auto Train from FL to VA.",
"I used to take the train from college (near LA) to my families home (near SF) since I didn't have a car. It was about a 10 hour ride but since the train had outlets I would play Skyrim on my laptop. Very relaxing ride tbh, if you weren't in a hurry. ",
"When I moved from Michigan to Utah a few years ago I took the train. I pretty much sat in the observation car the whole time. Ruby canyon was my favorite part.",
"Twice the price as a plane ticket, half the speed of driving.",
"Getting motion sick thinking about it.",
"Also on the Capitol Limited (Chicago-Washington DC)",
"Not with that attitude! ",
"this is a tough one. its not an amusement ride or tourist attraction. its a means of transportation. most do not travel from nowhere to nowhere. we plan travel, to get to destinations. But I realize now, vacation starts when you travel.",
"Where’s the bar?",
"meanwhile coach is absolute shithole. It took 31 hours to get from philly to Chicago on the cardinal. never again.",
"Southwest Chief?\n\nLove gazing at the still active semaphores out the window in NM.",
"*Now* you tell me",
"agreed. i did an amtrak trip once from Texas to NYC and back. it wasn’t cheap and took forever, but i loved every single second of it.",
"Did you get a sleeping car? We didn't and it was cold and cramped when it came to sleeping. Otherwise I liked it.",
"I went from LA to Kansas City few years ago and the train had one of these cars. Definitely recommend it and it's very cheap if you book early and go off peak.",
"Where is this to and from?",
"I looked into one of these trips and was surprised by the cost. More expensive than a flight, and many times longer. Worse yet, the sleeper car for my family was booked over 12 months in advance.",
"They aren't in the Auto Train often.",
"But twice as enjoyable",
"this brings such fond memories to mind--i love amtrak",
"We have traveled on the Coast Starlight up the Pacific Coast, and loved it. When we got to Seattle we just ubered around. Best trip to Seattle ever. We've also ridden the three lines from the West Coast to the Midwest. The California Zephyr coming over the mountains going west was great. Yes, it's slower but I didn't have to drive a mile of it. Love my trains. I do opt for sleepers on the long lines though. ",
"This is the highlight for me when I take the Amtrak from St Louis to Chicago. If I take it to Kansas City, this car isn't available. It makes the trip worth it. Since fucking terrorists haven't used a train against America, we are free to bring aboard ice chests filled with beer and food for the trip. I shit you not. So imagine sitting in one of these fairly comfortable seats with a beer in your hand as you enjoy the passing scenery with incredible lighting.",
"Worst part is that passenger trains share the same track with industrial trains and have to yield to them. It sucks having to sit there for over an hour because someone couldn't schedule the operation 30 minutes sooner so they'd be gone by the time we passed by. But again, infrequent number of tracks with overburdened number of trains....",
"lol, its based on a time slot basis. Each company using the rails has a contracted time. Miss the time, and you have to wait for an opening.",
"We spent it all building military bases on the other side of the world...",
"Ahh you get used to sleeping in the shitty chairs",
"Wait, really?",
"I used one of these. What typically is a 6 hour drive was a 10 hour train ride. The entire train smelled like a urinal. The passengers all look like the typical 3am Walmart crowd. The experience was horrible. Never again.",
"Could be the California Zephyr, too. Just took that one in November. Incredible views. ",
"I bought a rail pass in 2002 and went all across the U.S. and Canada for a month. These things were awesome. On certain legs they would invite experts on the area to talk about what we were seeing. It was a phenomenal experience. I think the rail pass was like $600 back then. ",
"And infinitely more comfortable.",
"Kinda like when someone takes a shit while waiting to take off",
"But we could have comfy old timey sleeper cars :(",
"Westworld",
"The couch is surprisingly comfortable to sleep on...",
"Wall-E",
"And like all Amtrak trains it’s empty and operating at a loss. ",
"Trains are simply my favourite way to travel.\n\nIt's just that they are too slow, too inconvenient, too indirect and can't go over large water bodies.\n\nOtherwise the comfort and freedom granted is unparalleled. ",
"Is there a halfway decent way to book tickets on this train without having a specific destination in mind?",
"I sat in one for several hours of my Chicago-Montana trip. It was awesome!",
"Took Amtrak from Philadelphia to Idaho. 2½ days. First night I had a sleeper car. The second night I slept in coach. \n\nI loved every minute of it. \n\nBar car. Get up walk around. No traffic, just relaxing. \n\nIf you're not in a hurry it's a great way to see the country. ",
"So if you could only go on one multi day train trip in your life what would it be? Thought about taking the kids on one. Disconnect for a few days and enjoy something that may or may not last in the future.",
"That was my first thought, too. I can't look out the side windows of a car/bus/plane/train and not feel queasy.",
"That's a weird comparison, but I'll allow it.",
"Down the stairs in the middle right of the picture. They even have decent beer. ",
"I kind of miss the Northlander we had here in Ontario. Took it to Toronto, was like a 12 hour ride, but it was fun. But now that we have Porter and it's like the same price to fly it makes no sense. ",
"The people in the picture constitute 100% of Amtrak's ridership outside of New England for the entire year of 2017. ",
"Unfortunately those windows aren't always that new or clean.",
"Not true everywhere.. I work in the rail transportation system in US. Industrial trains have to yield to Amtrak near one of our busier locations. Makes planning difficult there because they only have so long to load the train from when it shows up, and yielding to Amtrak can delay the industrial train by 3-4 hours, so the location has to pay a bunch of overtime while they wait. I get it though, because if I was in a passenger train and had to wait 3-4 hours to move, I’d be pissed. ",
"Yep. Riding in trains does this to me, especially when I'm facing the opposite direction of where I'm going. Ugh. ",
"Can someone explain to me the details behind railway travel in the US being slower than I would think and more expensive and time consuming compared to driving? I recently was talking to my girlfriend about taking a train from NC to Ohio and it was something ridiculous like a few hundred dollars and something like 18 hours. ",
"I would be **HAPPY** to take cold and cramped over a damn chair. \nAs an obligate stomach sleeper, the chairs are so bad I went to the observation car and **slept on the floor**.",
"In the US cargo trains get rail dominance over Amtrak. If a cargo train is traveling the same rails as Amtrak, Amtrak has to pull over at the next junction to let the cargo train through. That is why it takes forever to travel by rail. Commerce is more important than people when on rails. Edit: I am talking about traveling Amtrak across country, not short Northeast commutes.",
"Omg I’m dying.... and so are the people who ride amtrak ",
"Some people enjoy taking the scenic view from time to time.\n\nFlying has just become a downright awful experience from the moment you step into the airport. Delays seem so common, the constant threat of overbooking and good luck if you need to check luggage. \n\nEvery once and awhile I take the train and it's just such a pleasant experience by comparison. If it was cheaper I'd probably always take it. A lot of days I'm flying I just always pick later flights to \"maximize my time\". Procrastinating most of the day while I wait for the time to leave. Meanwhile I take the train, and either work on my laptop or read a good book. Soaking up the sights in between. It never actually feels like wasted time.",
"Freight trains get priority because the freight companies literally own most of the rails. ",
"That's got to be the nicest amtrak I've ever seen ",
"Coast Starlight from LA to Seattle. LA’s Union Station is architecturally stunning. On the trip, there’s a point in Central CA when Pacific Coast Highway veers inland (near Vandenberg AFB near Lompoc) and the train stays on the coast. No roads - just the Pacific, the beach, train tracks, and empty, rolling fields and hills dotted with live oak. It’s beautiful. \n\nYou pass through downtown Oakland at Jack London Square in the evening, and the Cascades overnight. Beaches and mountains, man. ",
"The German railway company just got rid of sleeper cabins (you can still use the Austrian ones though). It was truly a unique, weird experience, and felt... I don't know. Whimsically outdated. There's this entire train devoted to mid- to high-priced beds with breakfast and showers and service staffers, and all the cool kids do these days is to take a bus to Italy for 29 Euros. \n\n",
"The chairs swivel. I don't think anyone sits straight ahead, they just keep the chairs like that when they are empty to keep the walkway as wide as possible.",
"It's for vomiting in, after watching all that zooming landscape.",
"Is agree with the Zephyr",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Zephyr\n\nI plan to ride this some day ",
"what is there to view? fukkin grass?",
"Been on one of these trains. This car is usually filled to the brim with Amish people 9 times out of 10.",
"> zooming\n\nClearly you have never ridden Amtrak. More like crawling landscape.",
"I'd be the one guy trying to face forward and making it Very awkward for the person next to me. \n\n\"Hiiiiiii\"",
"Totally would put my feet up on the window ledge.",
"I can't remember if it was like this one or it was a smaller observation deck, because I was 9 or 10 and it *felt* this big, but I took the City of New Orleans from Chicago down to New Orleans and it was quite an experience.\n\nI had never flown on a plane before then, but most of the times I had on that train were far better (and more comfortable) than the entirety of any flight I've ever taken.\n\nIf it weren't for the prices and the significantly longer travel times (especially when you have to experience a 12-hour delay like I did on the way there due to lots of switching off the main line for numerous freight trains... ugh) I would consider taking the train for every long distance trip!\n\nEDIT: I just Googled \"The City of New Orleans\" and this might be from that train. It looks exactly the same as the Google Images pictures that come up as results.",
"California Zephyr? My favorite train ride. Took it from Emeryville to Chicago. The best views were from the Bay Area to Denver. It started snowing at some point and everything turned white. It was so pretty. After that you get the canyons which were beautiful. I plan on taking this again during the summer so I get longer daylight.",
"I think you hit the nail on the head though: it's extremely inefficient with our size.\n\nIn places like BOS-WASH train service is nothing out of this world, but it is usually decent. Most of the country however it would never be a reasonable option because of sheer size.\n\nSo we can definitely work on linking close urban areas better, I agree there, but cross country trips will never beat flying in terms of convenience.",
"Basically the rail system here is composed of tracks owned by the big rail companies. They are freight companies and their trains get preference over passenger rail. With the exception of just a few rail corridors/routes ridership is low. Low ridership and (fairly) well subsidized roads and gas make for lower cost road travel than it costs on trains. \nWe have looked at a ride from Phoenix out to Anaheim, but the damn train takes 8.5 hours out and runs $70 per person each way. In a five passenger vehicle it is 80 each way in 6 hours. Worst of all, our train station is an hour from downtown Phoenix out in Maricopa. Hell even flying only really beats driving by two hours on a sub 400 mile trip after you account for checking in early and getting out of the airport. \n",
"You just gave the answer as to why there's not more funding for it. It's inefficient.",
"I guess if you have a lot of reading or something you want to do it's reasonable, but after about 6 hours you really start to think \"dang I should've just taken the 2h on a plane\".",
"Something smells like vomit.",
"After high school I took some time to take every track in the US. It was worth every minute and every penny. The Amtrak is truly something special.",
"Also on The City of New Orleans (Chicago-New Orleans)",
"> on this train without having a specific destination in mind\n\nIt's a train, so it's on rails and it goes to pretty specific destinations. Unless it derails...",
"[Paris to Beijing on the Trans Siberian Railway.](https://www.seat61.com/Trans-Siberian.htm)",
"> don't have long legs \n\nWelp..I'm fucked",
"> it wasn’t cheap\n\nWhich sucks TBH. Rail travel *should* be cheap",
"No, I mean, if I just want to ride the train and stay in this car, round trip.",
"I have ridden the Empire Builder line from Portland, OR, to Minneapolis. Can confirm.",
"I took a train from Germany to Italy in the 80s on a regular train (not a sleeper). I was in a normal cabin with six seats. When it got dark all at once everyone got up and pulled all the seats down so the cabin was in effect one big bed. Everyone else settled down and fell asleep as if this were the most normal thing in the world. I could not stop laughing.",
"I did [Train Jam](http://trainjam.com/) on a train that had an observation car like this. It went from Chicago to SF and it was one of the most fun things I've ever done. Worth it if you have the extra time to travel!",
"The really sad thing is that I think it would be cool. But when I checked it cost a fortune and it took waaaaay too long. Cheaper and faster to fly. ",
"I’ve done the same and I have no regrets",
"I just recently went on the California Zephyr with my fiance and had an absolute blast. Met people from around the world and heard many stories. On the surface it seems expensive for a room but all your food is included and the food is actually pretty decent. I even made a cool [twitter/map app](https://rwmgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/MapTour/index.html?appid=978173def0954eae943ef8efeb1d766a) documenting the trip. I highly recommend the trip! ",
"One time I was stuck in one of these cars for hours. The car with my original seat on it derailed and they moved everyone from that car to one of these... my worst train experience ever. There's no foot room at those seats, at least where I was sitting. Somehow it was way more cramped feeling than normal seats. Of course, all of our luggage was packed in too, so it's not like it was a normal situation, but I don't think it would have been comfortable for a long period anyways.",
"Really? You ever try sleeping in one of those chairs? Would much rather have a 4 hour plane ride vs 3 days sleeping in a chair",
"Took a trip 3 years ago. Always wanted to. Never again. The train staff was a group of grumpy, miserable people. The other passengers were sketchy as fuck. We wanted to sit in the observation car that is pictured. During our 3 day trip we never got a chance because the seats were always filled.. so we were confined to our seats moat of the ride.",
"Standard watching https://youtu.be/mbEfzuCLoAQ",
"By \"not that expensive\" you mean very expensive compared to most modes of travel, but cheaper than a taxi or limo?",
"What answer? He didn't ask a question.....",
"I'm confused by all of these comments about the trains being incredibly expensive. I took Amtrak from Chicago to Dallas, and a round trip was maybe a bit more than a one way flight. Maybe the Texas Eagle isn't a very heavily used line?",
"Here are my photos from a few years ago, along the same lines as your own:\n\n[Dining Car](https://i.imgur.com/XzdvG4f.jpg)\n\n[Sleeper Car](https://i.imgur.com/7NlfNf9.jpg)\n\n[Outside the Sleeper Car](https://i.imgur.com/U9Rl3CH.jpg)",
"I went on one of these along the Colorado river and everyone we saw in the that river kept mooning us ",
"My wife and I took the Lakeshore Limited from NYC to Chicago in November. It was a great experience. Lots of good scenery in upstate New York. ",
"Big airplane dropping propaganda 🤔",
"How does Amtrak pay the bills with that many empty seats?",
"Kinda reminds me of the Enterprise E (TNG).",
"These changed since I rode one last. This used to be the only car you could smoke in. Let’s just say you couldn’t see out the windows. Hotboxcar",
"Good for the people?\n\nYou can’t have it. \n\n-Your Upper Class Government",
"And apparently SHOUTED about it",
"PSA from a frequent Amtrak rider. First of all check out /r/Amtrak and /r/trains for more info and great photos like this. This is the observation car, available to all passengers on all long distance trains. Tickets for long distance trains normally range from a coach seat (usually a bit cheaper than planes if you book in advance) which have much more legroom than airplane seats but are still seats, to sleeper cabins (they can range from a bit above plane tickets to a decent amount above). There are routes across the country (all states except alaska, Hawaii, Wyoming and south Dakota) and long distance routes run daily or a few times per week, shorter distance trains run multiple times per day. For more info look at https://amtrak.com some really good info there.",
"ELI5: Why is this fucking obsolete form of travel so god damn expensive. ",
"Many years ago, and long before Amtrak, cars like this were called \"parlor cars\", with big comfortable swivel chairs, and a Pullman porter to provide service. If you had the extra fare, the parlor car was the way to go!",
"Are we referring to birds here?",
"If Amtrak were the same price as a plane, I'd go for it for a vacation.\n\nIt's just slower, if roomier. I'll take cramped to get there 2 days earlier at a much lower price.",
"Illinois central Monday morning rail.",
"Way too soon. ",
"Would love to hear more about your California to Midwest trips. From where to where, approximately how much did it cost and how kid friendly?",
"Man just imagine browsing memes on your laptop from those seats!",
"I would read a blog or book about this. Got one?",
"I’ve done this twice and it was unreal. You get to see geography you wouldn’t see otherwise. It’s stunning. ",
"If it was cheap and slow I’d try it. If it was slightly expensive and reasonably fast I’d try it. Since it’s both slow and expensive I’ll likely never ride it. ",
"Ridership has increased significantly on trains like The California Zephyr. Hopefully these amazing trains run forna long, long time.",
"Tell me more of this sleeper cabin thing.",
"AmericanMethTown Liner",
"I had someone throw a rock at the train.",
"Govt subsidizing",
"Don’t tell me what to do. ",
"I actually find them pretty comfortable, though the fact that I'm 4'11\" probably helps. They recline, there's that little foot rest thing, it's really not bad! It's a hell of a lot more comfortable than trying to sleep in an economy seat on a plane, that's for sure. I bring a sleep mask, pillow and big blanket and sleep very well. ",
"I'm 6'3\" and it wasn't bad at all. There's way more leg room than on an airplane. ",
"I spent a month and a half doing this 2.5 years ago. It was one of the best trips I've ever taken!",
"> Can someone explain to me the details behind railway travel in the US\n\nHere is a good 8min video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbEfzuCLoAQ",
"Yeah, I get what you mean.\n\nI think you'd just have to buy a **VERY EXPENSIVE** round trip ticket. From a quick Google search, it looks like it would be at least $500 to go from Chicago to Los Angeles and back.\n\nIf you would really want to stay on a train for 4 straight days, I guess that's not bad overall.",
"Fast, slow, if I'm not driving I'm puking. Especially looking sideways at moving landscape .... I'm done, son!",
"This right here is why I ride the train from OR to WA. I bring my own beer and food and it makes the journey amazing. Cheaper than a plane ticket, more legroom than a plane, same travel time as a car, and I can walk on without being legally molested by TSA.\n\nFor cross-country trips though? No way.",
"California Zephyr!",
"I took a cross country Amtrak trip with my Dad in the late 80s....The \"lounge\" cars were the only ones you could smoke in (I assume you can't anymore). They would always thick as hell with smoke. It'd be awesome to do it again but hotbox it through the Rockies.",
"Amtrak and Metra down between Milwaukee/Kenosha/Chicago",
"I rode it 2.5yrs ago. Cost me $90 for Seattle-San Francisco in a regular passenger seat (no cabin). It's nice but after 24hr riding, you're happy to get out of that thing.",
"Isn’t this on Wall-E? ",
"Seattle too. The train combines/splits in about Spokane. ",
"> incredible lighting\n\n... the sun?",
"I'm taking a stab at this so keep in mind it's mostly speculation BUT if I had to guess I'd say that the infrastructure is still being used for freight trains that just use different stations and since so few people use it for leisure or vacation it's only expensive from a travelers standpoint. \n\nSo it's not prohibitively expensive to maintain the rail lines, just not profitable for personal travel so those who do use it end up paying for it. And now, especially with planes, it's probably used more for something like this. Just a scenic trip in a train. ",
"The tracks are owned by the freight companies and they allow Amtrak to use them so it would make sense that they have the right of way on their own property.",
"They still have those. You can get little compartments or even rooms in some of the trains. It's a hoot, though I did have a little motion sickness trouble with the very wobbly upper level on the Coast Starlight when I took it years ago. The tracks are pretty bad. Wait staff in the dining car were lurching around. Everybody had a good sense of humor about it. We slowed and stopped right next to a campground on a cliff by the sea at sunset, and the campers were all waving. It was great. The Coast Starlight is the only one I've taken. We had some serious delays once on the way up to Oregon once, though. I would advise planning some extra travel time. I remember they had this stupid wine tasting in the dining car and a movie for the kids downstairs, and the kids and I kept running through there while people were sitting there looking dazed with their wine glasses. Lots of fun to be had.",
"Don't ride the East coast train. ",
"I once took Amtrak from Boston to Salt Lake City, it was fucking awesome. The sad part was it cost more then flying, but I really wanted to do it so I did. Best section by far was Denver to SLC. The mountain passes were crazy, and viewing from this car was incredible. Plus there was a bar.",
"I don’t, apologies, just a couple journals about the time. If you’d like a story from either the trips I’d be more than happy to share. I’ve never had a negative experience on Amtrak and encourage anyone who can, spend the extra travel time and go for it.",
"*What in the hell* are you looking at from STL to CHI? \n\nI've done that trip a couple dozen times and the only interesting things are: the giant elephant outside East STL, the cooling towers in Springfield, and the wind turbines west of CHI. ",
"I'm all ears, if you are willing to type. ",
"/r/HailCorporate \n\nSeriously. Amtrak is shit in the Midwest, and most rides offer minimal things to look at. ",
"If sleeper cars were more affordable and I had tons of vacation days I could take and I didn't mind taking a 3-day trip somewhere, I would probably take trains more when I traveled.",
"I took a train from Berlin to Paris and it was one of the best choices of my life. 11 hours of incredible German and French countryside.",
"That was one of the coolest things about my trip around Europe in 99. Taking a sleeper car from Amsterdam to Munich, Munich to Rome and Rome to Paris was amazing. The train from Amsterdam was the nicest, most comfortable means of transportation I have ever taken. The train from Munich was the only one that my friend and I had anyone try to get into our cabin when they weren't supposed to be. Lucky we had taken the warnings of others and secured our door from the inside.\nI would love to take a trip like that again. ",
"You're not my real dad! ",
"Haha - my friend and I took the Empire Builder from Chicago to Spokane back in the day. First day we had our own “room,” with berths and electrical outlets, access to the dining car and it was straight up baller - second day, however we were booked for coach and the same staff from the night before were like ‘lol what are *you* doing here - gtfo’ when we tried to get breakfast in the morning",
"I always recommend that if you have the time, take the train. often times its comparable to plane ticket prices and is leaps and bounds more comfortable. I took the Chicago to LA train once, took 30 hours but so much better than flying",
"Have done this. Mixes extremely well with drugs. ",
"They have rooms with beds but it's even more expensive.",
"Ah okay. That doesn't sound too bad then. Depending on how long you sit down of course",
"Instant nausea",
"Lots of Amish on my train trip cross country.",
"Whoa whoa whoa I know a guy who makes 50k a year working at Lockheed. He's benefitting!",
"Incredible *natural* lighting....",
"So many cool looking cows, some trees and fields. Drink enough and the scenery turns lush!",
"If they ran 250 mph trains on dedicated tracks, that’s Chicago to San Francisco in like 12 hours. \n\nThe benefits would be...\n\nSome people are scared to fly.\nSome people would like to see the scenery.\nSome people would trade 2 hours of airport waiting for a relaxing train ride. \nSome people might want to make multiple stops along the way. \nSome people have oversized luggage and bicycles they’d like to travel with.\n\nIt doesn’t have to be a matter of pure convenience... Investment in rail travel on a par with the rest of the developed world would be a wonderful thing. ",
"Your long legs will be fine. The chairs recline and even have foot rests. There is plenty of leg room. I’ve been on the train three times now. There are always so few passengers that you can take up two seats for yourself if you want (your seat isn’t assigned). Even more leg room!",
"I have spent so many hours in that car, you are not wrong. ",
"My (then) girlfriend and I took a DB sleeper car Munich --> Brussels back in 2005. It was fantastic. Frankly, I have no idea if it was worth the money because we were on eurail passes, so things like the sleeper car were just a small upgrade fee instead of full ticket price. But it was surprisingly not cramped. Plenty of room for sleep. Also plenty of room for sex.",
"I’m on mobile in bed but if you want to choose either north, south, mid-west of the Mississippi or east to New York I’d give you a quick gist of any of them.",
"Depends on the train? I took an Amtrak express from DC to Boston once. It took 2 hours longer than driving, cost almost as much as a plane ticket, stopped every 15 minutes despite being the express, and had less comfortable seating than a typical subway car. It was miserable.\n\nNever again. At least, not for anything except a really nice vacation ride. ",
"California Zephyr? The food sucks, the seats are uncomfortable, and the ride is long. Rode it from san francisco to chicago. Wouldn't reccomend it. ",
"Midwest!",
"Midwest!",
"I did a trip on Amtrak from San Francisco to Chicago. Here are the pictures I took, most from the sightseer lounge (be warned, I didn't organize or curate them).\n\n\nhttps://goo.gl/photos/HapSdBqBNSXzdupM7\n\nhttps://goo.gl/photos/owUBCjmLJsQFVhqS6\n\nhttps://goo.gl/photos/XouH51KNu7aRwPne7\n\n",
"More stops = Longer rides even at 250mph.\n\nSo that solves the problem of SF-CHI direct, but what about all of the over stops between? What about the need to transfer? It will end up being much, much longer.\n\n>Investment in rail travel on a par with the rest of the developed world would be a wonderful thing.\n\nTry getting from one end of Australia to another in a train. It takes just as long as the same distance in the US. No idea where the \"rest of the developed world\" means if you don't think Australia is developed.\n\nEdit: and not to mention 250mph is only present in very small sections of Europe right now. None of the routes with those trains are even close to the length of CHI-SF.",
"The trough is there to feed the animals... that are trotting faster than your train midway across the U.S.",
"Can confirm, took the Amtrak a couple years ago from Denver to Omaha. It took 14 hours, had to stop at every single town and the train broke down twice. ",
"It took 24 hours to get from San Fran to Seattle?",
"I don't know, this was taken in a cloudy day. On a sunny day half the passengers would be miserable",
"I've never really thought that on my handful of train journeys (including a 24 trip last year). Then again, I sprang for the smallest sleeper cabin. It's a real nice way to bookend trips, just to give a bit of time to decompress and reflect on both ends. It helps that it avoids all of the bullshit of airport security and the shittiness of being trapped in a chair for hours on end in a plane.",
"U sure about that? Hold my beer....",
"This is not true. Amtrak gets priority over all freight trains. Amtrak is a federal company. Railroad companies are not. We halt all operations to Amtrak as long as we can safely do so. \n\nSource: Railroad worker. ",
"I rode this from Sacramento to chicsgo...the Sierra Nevada mountains, Rockys in the night, asking to purple and lavender mesa mornings in utah...it was phenomenal ",
"Why does this remind me of West World. ",
"They tried \"high speed\" travel between Seattle and Portland once....",
"I've taken this along the Central coast of California and it was beautiful. Such a great experience too.",
"Also depends on which service. Long haul service? more space. A shorter run? slightly better than airline seats.\nNo one cares if you stay in your seat or not.",
"That's what it looks like on Day 1. Grimy and stained and smelly by Day 3.",
"I just took one of these from Los Angeles to Seattle! It took 34 hours and was a blast. I got a sleeper (roomette that has a bunk bed) and split it with a friend. It cost us $550 total, including 6 surprisingly good meals. (You can get surf and turf for dinner!)\n\nThis observation car (pictured) is for everyone to use, so it can get packed. People in the sleeper have access to a parlor car, which has a similar set up but is more exclusive. The windows don’t go up as high in the parlor car though. ",
"It breaks my heart to see a country that so embraced railroad, that built a *continental* rail system that pales in comparison to other countries. We threw away streetcars, buses and trains for a fucking intrestate hiway. Please get someone who knows about railroads to run Amtrak.",
"I'd love to smoke a blunt in there.",
"Similar to what they use in Peru for Machu Picchu",
"Absolutely hate Amtrak. Took it a lot in Uni. Bad quality, expensive and always delays.",
"This car is the Everest for people paranoid about being assassinated. ",
"Alaska has an amazing tourism rail industry. \n\nJust saying. If they'd market it correctly, it could work.",
"Doesn’t it depend on who owns the tracks? I was talking to the crew in the train pictured (California Zephyr, unless I am mistaken) who explained that Amtrak yielded to freight on the West Coast because the freight companies own the track, but the opposite is true on the East Coast. ",
"So that one I started in Denver and I was heading to San Francisco. I left Christmas Day and had to be in San Francisco by New Years and was traveling with these two hippies I was living with at the time who I was treating to a concert for New Years. By this time I had taken the Amtrak a number of times and knew simple rules to follow. Within an hour one of them had taken out their large jar of marijuana and opened it in the lounge, 10 minutes later the conductor showed up to let us know he had his eyes on us. \n\nAfter that I quickly separated myself from them and decided to spend the rest of my trip on my own. \n\nSee as it was the middle of winter and we were traveling through the Rockies, I had planned in weather delays. A smart thing to do while taking Amtrak is to plan on delays, and take them in. Being stuck in the middle of the mountains during a snow storm is one of the most peaceful experiences I’ve ever had. \n\nPlus it was Christmas so there was free hot chocolate!\n\nAfter we made it throw all the tiny gorgeous mountain town I made my way the the dinning car and was seated with two retirees who were on their way to the yearly barbershop quartet convention...\n\n...that’s a real thing.\n\nEventually after lots of booze and conversations I found myself in San Francisco, which a whole different story.\n\nAnd that is the shortest trip on the Amtrak I’ve ever had. (Not including the regular Hiawatha trip between Milwaukee and Chicago.)",
"The Acela (what you are calling Amtrak \"express\" I think) is actually pretty good for NE corridor. I travel a ton between DC and NY and always take that instead of flying. It's a 2 hour and 50 minute trip and the trains leave every hour. Considerably more relaxing than flying or driving.",
"Agreed. Sometimes it’s more expensive than traveling via plane. Too bad because it can be fun!",
"Taking the \"NAtion Builder\" across the country was one of the supreme joys of my young life. ",
"The BEST way to travel.",
"Used to ride the Pacific Surfliner occasionally from Santa Barbara to San Diego. I'd get their sketchy jalapeño cheeseburger and a Stone Brewing Old Bastard in the dining car. Good times.",
"This is how the next Crusade starts.",
"I don't know about the US but in Canada there's just too much business in freight and passenger trains get in the way, get delayed, etc., doesn't make for a great trip.",
"Yeah, I was looking at traveling by train last year. The trip would have been far more expensive than traveling by plane, kind of silly, really.",
"A lobbyist for Amtrack told me it costs $1M per mile. ",
"Mom, look! Lemonade!",
"I think he was thinking more along the lines of Europe",
"I get motion sickness in cars (and airplanes) but do not on the train. I don't know why it's better but it is.\n\n... Until I go downstairs to the toilet. There is motion down there that gets to me, until I get back to the top.",
"\"Line Printer Terminal\" wut?",
"Damn, the new season of west world is gonna be cray",
"More expensive than plane, as fast as car... Really says how shit it is",
"Just number two then? Got it!",
"No—you can't take off a plane with a passenger in the bathroom, and so if one is during the time you're allotted to take off you lose your departure slot and have to wait (a long time, frequently) for another one. The airport authority can also fine the airline for missing their slot.",
"Did these people know each other?",
"I was on a train that had one of these, kind of sucked because of how crowded it was.",
"Took our babymoon in the Coast Starlight that had one of these cars. Great trip and great way to feel young again if you're under the age of 60. ",
"This Amtrak having priority over freight thing on reddit is reaching Berenstain Bears level of conspiracy. When I rode Amtrak we pulled over for all freight and let them pass. I saw it with my own eyes and realized why rail is inefficient in the US. Now we have people coming on here saying they work for the railroad and that it isn't true.",
"There’s a great Amtrak from Denver to Glenwood Springs",
"Well there's different sleepers as well. There's the \"2 Person\" \"roomettes\" that have 2 seats facing each other. The seats fold down into a bed and another bed pulls down from the top. Now...I tried to sleep on the top and immediately was overcome with claustrophobia, and I'm not even that claustrophobic, but the ceiling was literally a few inches from my face.\n\nThen there's actual small rooms with a couple beds and a bathroom and seats.",
"twice the cost of a plane? what airline are you taking? Its been cheaper every time i have taken it, and took about 2 hours longer to go 700 miles than driving but i got to sleep most the way. And i didnt get my nuts fondled just to ride, though that might be a negative for some.\n\nedit: ok looked it up, a lot of smaller trips are far cheaper than flight, long ones arent and depends where you travel to. Part of that is rail maintainence, especially in the north where it snows, planes dont have to maintain the skys. Part of it is utilization. Not enough trains are full. Where planes tend to overbook and always be full. But The times i have taken amtrack, has been specifically because it was cheaper than flight and not for any sort of train enjoyment.\n\n\n(also, it can take your car, which planes cant.)",
"No, that's why I couldn't stop laughing. ",
"Europe has over 2.5 times the population density of the continental US.",
"They're usually much more expensive if you're going a significant distance. I usually travel by train in-state and fly if I'm going out-of-state. Greyhound if I'm feeling lucky.",
"While funny, this just isn't accurate at all. Anyone who rides the California Amtrak as often as I do can tell you that it's pretty damn crowded often times. Around holidays, it's often so crowded that you have to wait in line to use a bathroom, and make reservations for food ahead of time so they don't run out of seating. ",
"More expensive and takes longer. You can see why I choose to fly :(",
"Actually I took Amtrak around the entire country for 2 weeks as a vacation. It was neat and I enjoyed the hell out of it. It's a great way to see just how many different types of landscapes there are in the USA. Plus you don't have to drive so you can sit around and talk to strangers.",
"I'd go through Jurassic Park on that.",
"Welcome to Jurassic World.....",
"Looks like it was taken from Westworld!",
"Yeah they are so bad they usually average half the speed of just driving; they really need an upgrade",
"Can confirm: I'm the train they call \"The City of New Orleans\"",
"Hey I'm just telling you what the guy meant",
"You get an amazing view of derailing and getting blown the fuck up.",
"Huh, odd. Well I hope you found someone to cuddle with. ",
"why do you say that out of curiosity? the reason it's expensive is because it genuinely is expensive to operate by comparison to car / planes. do you mean it should be cheap because its greener and more comfortable or what do you think?",
"Yes. [Scheduled at 22.5](https://i.imgur.com/HbKilR6.png) so 24 with delays sounds about right. ",
"> So that solves the problem of SF-CHI direct, but what about all of the over stops between? What about the need to transfer? It will end up being much, much longer.\n\nIsn’t that one of the advantages, though? If you’re going all the way from Chicago to San Francisco, it’d be better to just fly, but if you’re going from Chicago or San Francisco to any of the points in between (or between two points), you now have another option and those towns get opened up more.\n",
"I would not last 1 min not facing the direction im travelling. \n",
"That’s disappointing, I always assumed they could go a cool 120 mph",
"To give you a direct answer: Western US Amtrak lines. The Pacific Coastliner goes from LA to Seattle and many points between, and travels daily. It costs anywhere from $30 to $600 depending on how far you want to go and what level if luxury you want. You can ride coach from LA to Seattle for $180 and see just about every kind of biome imaginable. The sights are breathtaking, and the pace of travel is... Leisurely. ",
"It goes like 50mph",
"My fondest memory I had riding one of these was getting drunk ,on a flask of personal whiskey at 9AM, and playing Harvest Moon on the DS.",
"From Philly to Florence, SC and vice versa it's cheaper to take a train. It's also the same time as a car even though it stops in DC for 30 minutes. You also get free WiFi the whole 10 hours.",
"They turn as well.",
"Memphis to New Orleans was awesome. ",
"It looks like they swivel. ",
"I love the idea of a train system, but on my many trips I've only had awful experiences.",
"What happens when the train derails? I mean, are there seatbelts?",
"Definitely not twice the price of a plane ticket. Maybe if you find a very cheap flight and book the most expensive train ticket, sure. But I went from San Luis Obispo to Seattle for $145. Most flights cost around $340. ",
"The rail network is already established. If it were run near capacity, it wouldn't be hard to cover operating costs. There is plenty of cargo that goes by train",
"on the bottom level you can purchase snacks and beer. ",
"They all fell asleep instantly. I was awake the whole night because of the oddness of it.",
"Portland to Boston Amtrak is so fucking useful for sports. Especially Hockey and Basketball because the train station is in the TD Garden.",
"Now you tell me.\n",
"I think people just don't consider the massive overhead. Amtrak loses money on a lot of long range trips. ",
"This makes me want to throw up just looking at it. ",
"This is neat but let's not forget how many people have died because amtrak values money over your life by neglecting to implement safety features to their trains. ",
"Going to the airport is like going to the county jail. They treat everyone like a criminal. That ain't how shit is supposed to be. ",
"Plane would he cheaper and faster",
"It’s actually far more expensive that the cost of the ticket on long haul cross country lines. Amtrak just isn’t allowed by congress to kill the service. ",
"I took the train for the first time between Seattle and Portland - yeah, the one that derailed. It went along the entire coastline, the views were jaw dropping. The new line, the one that caused the derailment, bypasses the amazing views in favor of efficiency, which pretty much broke my heart.",
"Took one from Virginia straight into Penn Station. For a Midwesterner already confused with the east coast it was an adventure the whole way around. \n\nMet an old couple in the dining car and they chatted me up for like an hour over breakfast. \n\nThat was a cool day. ",
"BS. I fly every month and delays are pretty uncommon. And when you do get a delay it’s usually an hour. Planes may be a little annoying but it’s a small price to pay for being able to go from SFO - LA, look at a boat, and back to SFO same day in time for dinner. Or be half way around the world in less then an day. Like yeah going through security is an annoying 20 minutes. And if you check a bag (I never do) it’s annoying waiting for it. But whatever it so worth the hassle you are traveling thousands of miles in just a few hours. Trains aren’t on the same level. ",
"Really? I went from Chicago to San Francisco and it was super cheap ",
"maybe it was the one i took but a sleeper is generally just cold and cramped in private. Mine was amazingly tiny, with a tiny fold down bed. I'm fairly compact myself, and couldnt imagine someone much bigger in their. It wasnt exactly comfortable for me either. Still id take it any day over not having the sleeper. Its just not some sort of bastion of comfort. At least the one i got.",
"No it's not. We need to talk about this because it's happening too fucking often. ",
"Yeah you're right, [actually four times the price] (https://imgur.com/a/x7Wyg). ($124 vs $464)\n\nEdit: Why did Amtrak put the longest, slowest journey at the top? Do they want people to not take the train??? It actually only is twice the price. [Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/SrE6Eie.png)",
"One of the worst 2 days of my life was spent on this train, or at least one with the same viewing car. An unbelievable amount of things went wrong turning a 29 hour train ride from LA to Portland OR into a 43 hour ordeal. I'm from the UK where we're used to bad trains but this, this was something else. \n\n",
"Amtrak is government owned.",
"(try psychedelics)",
"By \"wasn't cheap\" you mean over $1k (at least more than a flight)? I feel like trains should be in the price range in between buses and flying, but I have no idea if that is feasible given running costs. Last time I looked up train price between NY and Chicago it was over $800. I drove.",
"Yep. I have a friend that works on a cross country Amtrack as a stew and bartender and she tells me they have to stop every two to three hours to let a cargo train go by.",
"Alaska Railroad is also unique in that it’s one of the only state-owned corporations that handle both passenger and freight. Unfortunately the railroad hasn’t been as profitable in the last few years. Tourism up here is also a very seasonal operation. ",
"Restricted motion combined with the external motion, perhaps? In planes and cars you're often strapped in, and in a locked-in room on a toilet, you're mostly unable to move much too. ",
"A car is faster to.",
"This is the correct (but sad) answer. ",
"Meals are included in the room, so for multi-day trips the price difference between the room and a coach seat + buying food in the dining car is negligible. ",
"Yeah, I took an Amtrak down to San Francisco this summer from Seattle and it was awful. We stopped for a full 2 hours while we waited for freight trains to go by. Aside from that, the train ride was slow as shit and the cars were mighty uncomfortable. I hated almost every minute of it. The only good part of the trip was that the scenery in Washington, Oregon, and northern California was truly beautiful. ",
"The Northeast Corridor trains are the only ones in the system that make a profit.",
"The size argument doesn't quite work though. If you look at population density maps, you will see that France for example has many regions that are quite sparsely populated, and that the United States have big variations, with large areas being quite dense. In those areas, rail service is far from impressive. Dont fool yourself, this is all about a lack of political will.",
"If you're attempting to compete on time? Then yes the stops along the way matter. If you're not concerned about time, we actually have a slow but existing rail/bus hybrid system.",
"The rail network is a patchwork of privately owned lines that all prioritize their slow moving cargo over Amtrak trains. The actual cost of a cross country ticket is much higher than what is charged. Amtrak just isn’t allowed to kill the service so they charge what little people will pay to ride. The economics of US long haul passenger rail will never work in the jet age.",
"Only twice huh? Suppose you should consider yourself lucky",
"Curious...how much did it cost?",
"Did the Auto Train two years ago. Wasn't there. ",
"Yeah I just looked up a trip from Michigan to Florida. $300 for cheap seats and over 2 1/2 days to get there.",
"There are many, many stops along the way",
"I couldn't agree with you more. I live in China which has a really fantastic rail system. With the high speed rail system, even traveling halfway across the country takes about the same time as a flight when you factor in security, delays, baggage checks, and transit to the airport. ",
"First time I discovered that these cars exist I was absolutely blown away. I never returned to the seat I paid for.",
"I miss it. ",
"There is no need for government funding for this sort of leisurely more \"tourist-y\" type railway, even though it looks neat. The government should only fund things like the subway and strictly point A-B transport methods. Things like these should be left up to the market and businesses, because most of the time, the government sucks at things.",
"I mean, not always though. For thanksgiving I took Amtrak from IA to UT, and a round trip train ride cost about half of a one way flight.\n\nI also found it much more comfortable than an air plane. Granted, it took 30 hours to get there. But I had the time to spare, and I got to talk to nice, interesting people. Travel by train has its ups and downs, but I highly recommend everyone try it at least once. ",
"Northeast Corridor operates at a profit. It’s one of the only areas in the country with the population density, infrastructure, and distance between major cities to make the train a viable competitor to the airplane. The major airlines have gradually been cutting back their shuttle flights because they can’t compete with the convenience and similar travel times of the Acela Express.",
"Meh, I feel like looking out the side while going forwards would cause me to go off the rails.",
"Go on and start a company and show us how its supposed to be.",
"I once took a train ride from Dar Es Salaam to Lusaka. It took almost 90 hours and we stopped at least 75 times, but I still enjoyed. Also got trip roaring drunk.",
"Especially considering trains very often have to hold for other train traffic, which can extend your trip by 2 hours.",
"They have one of these on the Capital Limited from DC to Chicago. What I really like about these trains are the ample bathrooms. 4/5 in the bottom of each passenger car. Pretty cramped, but a godsend for those of us who like privacy and availability on long trips.",
"What a blessing. I went from San Diego to Portland and it took 30 hours. Delay after delay, constant break downs.",
"Yeah, a lot of people in this thread are having a pretty romanticized view of rail travel and also really failing to understand how spread out the US is.",
"Is this the Chicago to LA?",
"Slower than a car, which you will then have to rent when you get where you are going since 95% of the US can't/won't maintain any reasonable mass transit system.",
"It's literally in the General Code Of Operating Rules for Freight Dispatchers in my company (a class 1 railway) that all effort must be expended to ensure passenger trains are not delayed by freight trains",
"If it weren't for the fact that I can buy a train ticket and avoid the traffic, I'd probably never go to Chicago. ",
"faster to where?",
"I actually traveled on a train that had one of these cars. I was in the train for three days and it was actually an incredible experience. It’s a great way to see some pretty remote areas of the country. 10/10 would do again.",
"Took one of these trains, with this type of viewing car, cross country back in the day. It was damn near impossible to get any kind of seat in them. All of the elderly/retired that ride these trains incessantly stake out their spots early in the morning and never leave them until they absolutely have to.",
"I can’t speak for anywhere besides where I know, but I work with railroads for grain transportation (not work for the railroads), and the trains I cared about always yielded to the Amtrak train. This is for trains along the BNSF line through KS. My BNSF train would always stop for 3-4 hours to allow the Amtrak to go through. Can’t speak for anywhere else, though.",
"That sucks. I wish our landscape in other areas was more train friendly. I'd gladly ride amtrak more often if it operated like European railways. 😕",
"I mean...airports aren't like that because the people who own the airport want it to be like that...",
"Now I am reminded that effecient commuter rail on a continental scale will never be a thing.\n\n\nI am sad. I kinda like trains. ",
"Wuss!",
"Yeah but it takes 60 hours to go from Philly to Idaho. ",
"Amtrak, the best way to look into everyones backyards.",
"I take the amtrak between home and school regularly and ever since I got to use the viewing car I always go out of my way to get those tickets, even if they are later in the day. They offer such a good travel experience.",
"i'm always hoping for a train system that goes from vancouver b.c. to portland while making stops along the way (i.e. seattle). i'd love to travel the PNW that way. also, if one went from seattle to los angeles i'd have taken that every single time going to school, even if it would cost more than flying and take twice as long as driving.\n\n",
"Get the fuck outta here! I can do that?\n\nDo they have sleeper cars and meals served? I would totally do this just for the experience.\n\n\nHow much was it? I'm in Texas now but I have family on new york.",
"Considering it runs at a loss and is already heavily taxpayer subsidized.... honestly - Amtrack shouldn't really exist outside the Washington D.C to Boston Megalopolis.",
"Money. ",
"Watching the sun rise in eastern Colorado from the observation car was something I'll never forget.",
"but you can take as much booze on it and no one cares! ",
"Watch that 30 degree turn\n\nEditNOTedit: too soon? ",
"you're mother",
"I would love to try it! However it’s too often they use buses in place of trains without notice in the PNW. I have little interest in planning on a train trip to end up on a bus. ",
"It’s good if you’re old \n\nHence all the gray hair in the photo",
"I simply do not understand why people would rather fly than take a train. \"I'm in a hurry!\" I guarantee you, you are not in that big of a hurry to slow down and enjoy yourself :)",
"Too bad that it's infested with WASPS!! ",
"Oh...err.. well done!",
"Too bad it’s wrecked. ",
"How was it sleeping in coach? I though about doing this to Tuscon but wasn't sure about not getting a sleeper car.",
"Lol. Good luck. He'd be screwed out of his Money before the first plane hits the tarmac",
"Portland to Washington DC takes 3 days. Fun but dont reccomend it on a regular basis.",
"They also have these cars on the trip up the West Coast. These are GREAT cars and it's an amazing experience. I happened to enjoy them on the ride from San Fran to Chicago. \n\nEast of Chicago to NYC, they were lamer single decker cars. ",
"If you can make the time, do the NY - SF route. I did it 9 years ago, and took 3 weeks. No better way than this to see the country.",
"Thats basically the Wes Anderson Christmas commercial lol",
"looks like about $400 and it's like 48hours with four xfers. ",
"You can thank the government for that; they subsidize the airlines while Amtrak has to make every cent it needs from ticket sales.",
"They can't even figure out how to do it in california from SF to LA. They don't even have to go over mountains. Its going to be a billion dollar waste of money.",
"Thank God it costs me $100+ for a 2 hour train ride from New York to Philly, so that routes like this can exist.",
"Cool view you can see the freight trains passing by when you get delayed better",
"How it's* supposed to be.\n\n it's = it is\n\nIt's supposed to be spelled it's.",
"And it’s only northern Idaho. Which is a great place, but if you need to get to Boise or Sun Valley your gonna be SoL",
"definately",
"I love Amtrak",
"A shitload more fun too.",
"I did NY - SF.\n\nNY - Chicago was $84, and Chicago - SF was $118.\n\nThis was in 2009. Also, these are coach prices, if you couldn't tell.",
"If only someone would invent like a small train that holds 4 or 5 people that can turn down any street. That would be awesome.",
"Oh yeah, the time difference is astronomical as well. A trip by train over any extended distance is almost a pure luxury expense and time wise than other modes of transport. Even a Greyhound will get you there quicker most of the time and for way less.",
"It’s efficient if we had high speed rail like Europe, the main problem being that it would be incredibly expensive to build considering the side of the US.",
"I would imagine trains will be one of the first vehicles to go fully automated. Hopefully that brings down the price.",
"Plank ",
"Welcome to Black Mesa.",
"A one way Amtrak ticket (STL to KC) is $31 for the cheapest ticket bought in advance. That's for one person travelling. Roundtrip gas in my car for the same trip is $25 and driving is 1.5 hours faster (5 hours train vs 3.5 hours driving). If two people are travelling, then the expense grows by several magnitudes over driving. I took the Amtrak for the first time recently, out of necessity and I'm glad it's there as an option but its slower and more expensive and the food cart sucks, but overall it's not bad besides those things. But it's not going to get better unless it's a viable alternative to driving which it's not at its speed and price. Right now it's just an option for people who can't drive for whatever reason. In fact I'm not even sure what the economics of a route like STL-KC are. If they get more ridership would they just increase prices or would they keep them the same and add another route? Is there any scenario where pricing gets significantly cheaper? A high price could be commanded if it was a little faster than driving. I'd pay $62 roundtrip a lot more often if it was faster than driving, all other things the same.",
"DC to LA looks to be about $240",
"Give them your owm money then.",
"Looks like around 300-350 dollars",
"I love Amtrak. Taken the Southwest chief, literally, hundreds of times. Sometimes you get shitty seat...mates(?) But for the most part it's an enjoyable trip. ",
"I too a train to Paris from London and I was freaking stoked! Not even that fancy by local standards. Double decker, a food car (that wasn't open) and a folding table between seats. I loved it. ",
"It could vary based on the agreements in any given area.",
"I think it would be more popular if it included car freight (meaning you pay to move your car across country) ",
"I’d get sooo sick...",
"Do a YouTube series called Driving with Beebish.\n\nIt could be about a cross country road trip and you are always getting motion sickness.",
"Why should it be cheap? (aside from \"well it's less convenient than planes\") Amtrak has literally [never made a profit since it was founded](https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/072115/how-amtrak-works-makes-money.asp). It stays alive on government subsidies and loses about $250-$300 million a year. ",
"Amtrak from Ann Arbor to Kalamazoo, MI and the train stopped for an hour and a half to let a freight train pass. Freight don't give a fuck who has to read another Cormac McCarthy book to pass the time. ",
"i wouldnt put it down as expensive in my experience. i paid 400$ for round trip from Portland to DC. ",
"Hmm that's not so bad actually.",
"One ticket please",
"We can build roads to literally everything, but somehow trains to cities are farfetched ",
"Because they own the tracks. The US didn't build any train tracks, the railroad companies did. And they still own them.",
"On my first (and so far, only) cruise, I was a little worried about motion sickness. Turns out I was fine, except sitting on the toilet. The ones on the ship are wall mounted, not attached to the floor. So, they vibrate due to the motors (most of the ones I ended up using were near the back of the ship). It was the oddest sensation. So, just a heads up if you haven’t been on a cruise and are interested in going on one. ",
"Coast Starlight? ",
"Why not? Forcing a business to lose money doesn't seem like it'd fly",
"The tsa was going to start doing screenings on Amtrak a while back I think. Don't know what came of it besides a scandal involving a little kid in a post trip search that was part of the testing phase and basically completely unnecessary.",
"Wouldn't a ticket from TX to NYC be like 150 bucks? Think it'd be about the same on air flight if not a little more. Is it normally more expensive?",
"Amtrak owns track going into Chicago and the North East Corridor in the East. Outside of those areas, they are running on freight. Amtrak generally takes priority on the railroad I work on. \n\nAmtrak may own other track in the east but I am only familiar with the two areas mentioned.\n\nThey run on the other railroads through trackage rights and they negotiate the terms of service through those rights. Likewise, freight railroads run trains on their tracks through a similar mechanism.\n\nThere is a lot that goes into consideration when moving trains (number of tracks, siding sizes, size of trains, speed, etc). Passenger trains are much smaller, lighter, and faster and for the most part they are prioritized where I work.",
"Damn don't have this on the acela. ",
"There is always plenty of room for sex when you sexing yourself ;)\n\n(joking)",
"HyperLoop!",
"$400 one way or round trip? ",
"Can I assume there are sleeper cars on a trip like that. If there were I think I'd love to do that. ",
"Yabut, here's the deal. You take an airplane for four hours, and you get off and it's \"Oh, thank god that ordeal is over.\". You take Amtrak, and three days later it's \"Awwww, it's over.\"",
"A fully self driving Tesla would probably give the same experience and probably will cost way less (on a per mile basis) and more control over the journey",
"I was on one too a couple years ago on the crescent line. Took 21 hours - essentially an all day and night thing. The kicker was when I finally got into the state I was going too someone pulled the emergency break. ",
"Not OP but an Amtrak from KC to Raleigh, NC cost me over five hundred dollars back in 2008. It was a lot more expensive than flying, but it could have become more affordable in the last 10 years. ",
"I've done a train trip literally from one corner of the US to another. It's a great, and relaxing, experience. Though it's about as expensive as flying (and obviously takes way longer).",
"There. You showed him.",
"Hmm... I was on an Amtrak just a few years ago traveling between States. The ticket was about twice as much as a plane ticket and it was basically a rolling port-o-potty. ",
"Alright. I spent a good 10 seconds thinking I was on r/crappydesign or r/wellthatsucks or something and thought there were plywood boards over all the windows.",
"Amtrack operates at a loss, and get subsidized by the US Taxpayer to the tune of 1.4 billion dollars a year. The reason it operates at a loss, is instead of staying in its wheelhouse, the Washington D.C. to Boston route, the San Diego to Los Angeles route, and maybe a route in the Pacific northwest, Amtrack runs transnational routes which are absolutely useless. \n\nThey value money because they operate at a loss. ",
"Laborers should’ve set the curve on the string line when they laid out the ties smh",
"And the Coast Starlight (LA - Seattle)\n\nAnd the Southwest Chief (LA - Chicago)",
"Looks like something that might be in Westworld.",
" Baltimore to New York is 200 for a 2 hour ",
"I rode one of these from Portland to Corvallis. So awesome to just watch outside, or curl up and read my book. I love train travel, I just wish it was as fast and efficient as it is here in Japan. ",
"This is a pretty arrogant comment. First, our “upper class government” isn’t a meeting room of Scrooge McDucks and Darth Vaders who close down Amusement parks for fun, second, how exactly is this good for the people? Sure it’s cool and beautiful, but not a government service. It’s not something the government should really be involved in. A tourist-y, expensive premium railway would be a waste of time, effort and money, leave it to the market to do. It’d be like asking the government to fund a leisure cruise ship line to travel around the states.",
"I also recommend getting the cabin suite with the balcony. It's nice if you're feeling nauseous to sit on your personal balcony. ",
"Transverse Vibration",
"Rail is pointless. In the future, automobiles and semitrucks are going to be fully automated. Why would we pay to build rail when we can just have AI-controlled vehicles in a conga-line from city to city? The infrastructure is already there: the highway system.",
"It really looks like it. I’d be interested in an interstate train ride if it was about 4 times faster ",
"WALL+E",
"I am really glad you posted this. It looks awesome and my wife and I have ready started planning our trip ",
"All the places people wanna go are already built up. It would cost way too much to buyout these people and companies just to lay track.\n\n\nIt's a monumental cost for something that most likely won't be widely used.\n\n\nI too would love a great rails system, but that chance is long gone now. I. Order for it to be possible, it has to be elevated or below ground (land issues) be faster than flying or driving, and be cheaper. I don't see it being all 3.",
"For a while when I traveled I'd always check the price of a train. I'm not sure why I thought it would be fun to take the train, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.\n\nFor every flight I checked, I could get a first class airline ticket for less than the cost of my train ticket. Depending on my journey, it could easily take 48 hours to get there on the train. Even if the train ticket was free, I've got limited vacation time from work and I can't spend 4 days just traveling (2 days there, 2 days back) if I want to spend any time actually relaxing.\n\n",
"Actually, slower than a car. My SO and I drove from New England to Colorado Springs in 30 hours. Most trains take about 60 and cost more than we spent on gas",
"Moving weight costs money. Trains weigh a fucking lot. To be more efficient than cars trains have to be at like 80% capacity. And to get that many riders they have to start and stop a lot to let them on and off. \nBusses are way more efficient. They are like lightweight trains that can turn.",
"i got a 30 day pass 6 years ago, and i'm pretty sure it was about $600 for me at the time. it was a really great experience. I was in coach the entire time. I'm not exactly tall, but i was able to sleep relatively comfortably curled up across two seats. Only when the train was near a city was it ever too crowded for me to get an entire row to myself. \n\ni brought my own wine, liquor and food, and just hung out in that observation lounge for large chunks of time and went to the restaurant car if i wanted a hot meal. \n\ni think The Coast Starlight in california is the only one i would consider first-class for, since they offer a wine and cheese tasting\n",
"I fly every week and it's not that bad.",
"I took a business class train from DC to NYC, it was like an extra 80 and I decided to treat myself.\n\nLet me tell you, it wasn't worth it. Literally no difference. ",
"I live 2 hours from Chicago on the City of New Orleans line and lots of people use Amtrak to get to the city and back on weekends. It's super cheap and takes the same amount of time as driving but you don't have to deal with tolls and traffic. I took it once and it was fun but the train took us through the parts of Chicago they don't really want you to see as a tourist. Burnt out cars and derelict buildings and such. Not pretty. ",
"It would be awesome to get a rail system to be self-sufficient.",
"I mean I could buy a plane ticket for that and be there in 4 hours. If I wanted to sight see I could drive my car for cheaper.",
"I think it's pretty good already. It's priced high enough to keep the rid raf off",
"> Every once and awhile\n\nAt first I had a moment of crisis wherein I thought I'd been using the expression wrong my entire life, but it seems it actually is \"[once in a while](https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/19/once-and-a-while/)\". Phew.",
"How did you like it? I’ve been thinking about making that same trip.",
"Is it not possible to purchase a non stop trip ",
"The government funds Amtrak so it’s not entirely free from oversight. Airlines have loss legs too as part of various mergers etc. they are required to operate regardless of profit.",
"How do you explain cruise ships then? Leisure rail travel is basically the same idea, but with an actual view. I've taken several multi-day rail trips, if you have the time it is a really great way to travel.",
"He means places like Japan and western Europe.\n\nThose are exceptions I beleive. And they aren't as great as they are hyped. ",
"Did this from Portland, Oregon to New York City. And another from LA to Chicago. 10/10 would recommend. ",
"I used to take the train from lycnhburg VA to philly all the time coming to and from college for breaks (about 8 hours long) and now that i live in Florida i take the autotrain which is the same thing but they put your car on it as well! from fl to VA then drive the rest of the way to jersey to be with my family. i love it ill sit with my family and play cards or read and the food isnt half bad",
"High speed stops would be fewer... spaced out say every 500 Miles or so, where there’s a built up area to stop at. So CHI-SF would ideally have like 5 stops if I were designing it. Chicago- Omaha- Denver- Salt Lake City- SF. It adds like 2 hours to total transit time, which, for the pole interested in rail travel, wouldn’t be a deal breaker. \n\nThe rest of the developed world that is concerned with improving mass transit via railways (China, Japan, Europe, etc.) are continually building out new lines and deploying faster and faster trains. They care about it! Of course Australia is developed, but I’ve never heard thing one about any trains in Australia. Sorry, it just hasn’t come up. Wasn’t thinking about it. \n\nI don’t know much about Australia’s network, but Ido know that Amtrak’s 3 “cross country” routes, which all start at Chicago, so it’s like ¾ of the country, and end at the Pacific, all take roughly 48 hours now. And they typically arrive late. Who has 48 hours to sit on a train? It could be easily 4x faster if they just tried. ",
"Sure, but they were saying it was a great experience that they loved, not that it was the cheapest and fastest way to travel.",
"\"Well, if they didn't want me to pee in it, why did they make it look like a trough with a view?\"",
"I know hardly anything about rail infrastructure but my assumption is the human capital cost of a train is not a major expense.",
"An unforgettable once-in-a-lifetime experience. I did it while in college, and I'm glad I did, because I'm much less tolerant of roughing it now.",
"WALL-E",
"I'm still waiting for folks to quote prices too. ",
"I take the Coast Starlight a few times per year. It runs from Seattle to LA. Through southern Oregon, it cuts through the Cascades and off the course from I-5. You go above the snow line in the winter, and hug the cliffs going through several tunnels past wide open valleys. It's got a car just like this one. I highly recommend it. For me, going from PDX to the Bay Area, this is much more convenient and fun than flying.",
"Nah, retards are incapable of learning beyond a certain point. It's all doomed to be repeated.\n\nLook at his comment though, look how fucking stupid it is. I'm damn near in awe of it.\n\nLet's look at it again.\n\n\"Go on and start a company and show us how its supposed to be.\"\n\nThat's his reply to a comment about how bad airport security sucks. \n\nI simply cannot be kind to people that are on that level of retard. \n\n ",
"I took a train from SF to Boston when I moved. It was about the same price as a plane ticket, and some snow delayed the train 8hrs which meant a missed connection and a night in Chicago. It turned into a blessing in disguise as the weather in Chicago was balmy and we got a hotel and a per diem. Plus, being allowed three large heavy boxes including a bike saved me quite a bit on shipping.\n\nThe trip from Oakland to Chicago had one of these viewing cars, which is where I spent 100% of my waking hours viewing the scenery and chatting with folks.\n\nI highly recommend it if you're not in a rush. And, I highly recommend not being in a rush.",
"Don't you dare buy anything from the bar tho. Prices are outrageous. ",
"Yeah, but if you drive your car you have to actually drive. Not sit back, relax, sleep, eat, drink, watch a movie, etc. etc. ",
"I took 2 tabs of acid on amtrack on the way up to Seattle from SJ. 24 hour ride. I saw the most beautiful scenery from Cali to Washington for only $120 dollars. I talked to so many cool people, shared great stories and got to wake up to a perfect sunrise in the snowy mountains of Oregon. 10/10 would recommend.",
"At least you're spread out a bit in there. I had to move coaches once because there was no escaping the smell.",
"Do you think it is like /u/jame_retief_ mentioned and other companies have different agreements on priority? Or maybe it has changed in the past 10 years.",
"I took that trip this summer. It was truly awful. My entire family decided we would never do it again. It was a fine experience but it was too long. None of us managed to sleep and that made it even worse. Terrain was beautiful though at the beginning of the trip. ",
"The sleeper cars on amtrak are such a rip off, plus the employee that’s tends to the sleepers basically beg for tips every time they see you. But coach is great I used to sleep in that lounge car at night on my way to North Dakota from oregon",
"Thank you. ",
"I sea what you did their",
"You must have been looking at one of the top tier sleeper cars or something. Amtrak prices between NY and Chicago range from ~80-200 for coach and business class. ",
"The thing is, sure the US is big but there are corridors that are extremely densely populated. I once took a train from Paris to Marseille. It cost €25. It took just over three hours, city centre to city centre. The distance covered (536 miles) is similar to the distance between Washington DC and Ottawa.",
"[looks like $326 to get from philly to idaho](https://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak) without a bedroom. \n\nThough only about $177 and 40 hours from LAX to Chicago, which isn't that bad...\n\nor $239 and 45 hours from chicago to portland, which is probably a pretty scenic trip. train's got a dining car, and a bar aswell. \n\n",
"It's called a trolley/streetcar/subway.",
"As a fellow stomach sleeper I know your pain",
"Sleeper cars are much more expensive but totally worth it for my trip. About 500. They do have meals on the train.",
"Train engineers are quite heftily paid (or so I've been informed). But yes, you're probably right.",
"The price depends entirely on where you're going. The north east corridor, which is like the most profitable line in the country and generally is for short trips into Boston or new York or something, is cheap, and considering that you're traveling into a city where parking is difficult and expensive, much cheaper than a car or a flight. I've taken the Amtrak from CT to Boston and CT to Washington dc before, both were obviously cheaper and more practical than going to the airport. The Boston trip was for Christmas (frankly I'd take the much cheaper commuter from Rhode island than the Amtrak), so while the driving cost was cheaper than my $50 dollar ticket, it was much easier to spend the holiday in the city without my car, especially since a fair bit of snow was a good possibility. As for the trip to DC, the train is about double what it would cost to drive down and no faster, but I'd pay far more than that to skip the new jersy turnpike, which I'm pretty sure is where you go when you're sent to purgatory. Totally recommend taking the train from CT to DC, though the CT leg of the trip will be the highlight of the whole thing because everything south of NYC is actually a burning tire fire of a trash heap.",
"Read that as \"four fixers\"... and I thought ~ oooh, intriguing.",
"My dream ❤️",
"Not likely. The problem is that trains are moderately expensive to run, but because of the low volume of passengers that use rail it is more expensive for each individual person using it. And the reason for the low passenger volume is that they take (relatively) forever. When it costs more than a plane ticket, but takes longer than driving, why bother?",
"man I remember when I first rode amtrak I saw a guy on a bike outrun the train. Got a bit sad after that\n",
"I have traveled many times on the ‘City of New Orleans’ and the ‘Texas Eagle’ either to Chicago or New Orleans. I’ve always gotten a sleeper. It’s clearly not faster. It’s usually cost effective for my trips, and I LOVE MY TIME ON THE VIEWING CAR with my feet up and a beer in hand watching the world go by. Also you can see all the intervening towns’ previously thriving areas.",
"- Not many customers. Since most people fly or drive (or bus if tight on cash) Tye cost is spread out less by train passengers.\n\n- Many of the rails are privately owned. So they have to pay to use them.\n\n- Trains are Hella expensive.\n\n",
"What does population density matter? \n\nSure, hardly anyone lives in the center of America... that’s sort of the point. Connect the populated areas! You don’t need a dozen stops in Wyoming, because there are so few people. Just cruise on through. ",
"I bet the extra 80 is to arrive earlier. Business people expect timeliness. ",
"This is my idea of a good time!",
"Why would you upgrade a 4-5 hour train ride? Kinda silly.",
"If this were just a little more centered, this post would fit nicely on /r/AccidentalWesAnderson",
"I’m not sure if all the places it is present in europe, but i took a 250mph+ train from Madrid to Barcelona and it was awesome. I wouldn’t consider Spain to be an outlandishly rich country, surely we could develop similar train routes in the US. Imagine SF to Denver in 5/6 hours. That would beat air travel and all the accompanying wasted airport time/ inconvenience. It really doesn’t take long for those trains to speed up to top speed either. ",
"I took this to New Mexico from LA. Was pleasantly surprised how comfy and relaxing this lounge car is. 10/10 would recommend",
"Hah this photo makes it seem like the experience is nice. I'd rater have flaming bamboo shoots shoved under my cuticles than go cross country Amtrak. $10 AMPM cheese burgers, constantly moving, constant irritations, seats are not comfy. ",
"Sounds like you haven't figured out how to drive yet. ",
"Likewise",
"> Worst part\n\nyou mean best part. we move 40% of our freight by rail, and it's a pretty energy efficient method of shipping. ",
"Not efficient for our size? Go to China and see how it's done. ",
"My girlfriend rode a similar train from Chicago to SF Bay Area. She said it was the most boring trip she’s ever been on.",
"Hey! I did Seattle to Chicago (one end to the other) with my family in December on the same line. ",
"I got $200/mo loading to my commuter benefit card, I'm gonna do roomette across the country I think. ",
"[ULPT:](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnethicalLifeProTips/) That trough is there to pee in",
"Awesome. Just to include awesome viewing cars, this is the Canadian Via Rail Panorama Car: https://www.rapidotrains.com/images/blog/20110627-2.jpg",
"it may be on more lines, but I've seen it on the empire builder, which runs between chicago and I think seattle.",
"Unfortunately, outside the northeast, the rail network is controlled entirely by the likes of CSX, Norfolk Southern and BNSF. So while America pioneered long distance passenger rail, we are being left in the dust by companies in Asia. Japan wants to give the US money to get going on high speed rail, even maglev (because the formerly state-owned JR Central is well positioned to build such a system) but there’s little political will to move forward even on a test line between Baltimore and DC.\n\nThe shinkansen is wonderful, though. A marvel in every sense. ",
"this is true, but for elderly people especially i think this is a great way to travel. slow paced and relaxed but not cramped in a car with sub par driving ability for hours on end. ",
"You won't need to leave Europe for the next Crusade",
"It has an 80s space sci-fi feel to it.",
"My favorite pass time ever was going to/from my home town and my college town on Amtrak. It was only an ~6-8 hour ride depending or rail drama, but I'd always bring a bottle of wine or a few beers and just fucking cruise. \n\nAwesome :D",
"Because nobody rides the Acela to admire the scenery. ",
"That's dirt cheap. I paid almost $70 for a Rochester-NYC ticket in 2016...",
"cheaper than a plane, and in most cases cheaper than driving. just about 10x longer than a plane. and you don't have to stop and sleep like driving. ",
"Really nice use of symmetry in the composition, though you have just barely clipped the left pillar. This would be better with a step or two back. Good colors. Depth of field and a slightly slower shutter speed give a nice blur that communicates the motion. The reflection of the people in the ceiling is a nice touch as well. Nicely spotted.",
"15 cars and 15 restless riders",
"Took one from Minneapolis to Chicago. So much better then flying. Relaxing ",
"Amtrak is honestly garbage. Went on a 12 hour ride from San Diego to San Jose. Overpriced and incredibly uncomfortable. A plane ticket back home was cheaper than taking the train back down. Avoid train travel in the US",
"Yeah true, true. Train travel is nice though. But I take your point.",
"I've gotta ask, is this viewing car new or only on special trains? Cause.. dang. The viewing car on Canadian VIA Rail trains is only the kind of top level, but this would be fantastic",
"I work for BNSF and have heard dispatchers rip some ass trying to get everyone clear so Amtrak can get out. On one occasion we delayed it 4-5 hours. Not sure exactly how much money the railways have to pay Amtrak when they cause delays but it’s several thousands of dollars. ",
"This is already happening as a result of PTC regulations.",
"Went from LA to Oregon on an Amtrak with my friends. Playing board and card games in that viewing car while looking out the window at the scenery is fantastic. Highly recommend ",
"Hey man, fuck you and your overhead, get to work smelting those rails you dumb *fat-donkey*. In 500 goddamn years you should be ready to give CSX and Amtrak the business. And by the business I mean a thorough and in depth schooling in the management, growth, and ROI of a transcontinental railroad empire. The business must be delivered in a swift and firm manner! \n#GET TO WORK FAT-DONKEY!",
"Round trip!\n\nProbably depends on where you're coming from and where you're going, maybe when you buy tickets. But I've done Indianapolis - LA round trip for ~$400",
"That's sorta my point.\n\nBOS-WASH has decent passenger train routes. California is building theirs. PDX-Seattle exists (recent accident aside).\n\nSure work on building up densely populated areas is probably a good idea, but cross country rail travel is not a feasible option for purely logistical reasons. If you're advocating literally thousands of miles of high speed rail in a continuous non-stop route coast to coast, then that's literally never been done on the planet. ",
"Took one last August! Chicago to SF on the California Zephyr. The Rockies and the Sierra Nevada looked great from this car!",
"Having been to an airport and to county jail, Airports are infinitely less traumatic ",
"You're not taking into account the cost to take those days for Americans. Six days *traveling* round trip by itself is a huge cost when the average American gets 10 vacation days per year. I'd rather spend my precious days at a vacation destination than in a train. ",
"Sandpoint I take it?",
"You're thinking of Acela.\n\nIt's business class only...only runs on the NE corridor...expensive as hell.",
"Rail could be much more efficient if completely computer controlled and coordinated.\n\n",
"So, looking to leave on the 26th with a train I am looking at a one way cost of $193 in coach with a travel time of roughly 50 hours. Leaving the same day, I can get a one way flight in coach for $71 and a travel time of 3 1/2 hours. That seems crazy to me.",
"Trains go faster than cars - way faster - or should if the United States weren't 50 years behind Europe and Asia.\n\nThere's absolutely not infrastructure in place in cities for everyone to take a self driving car, nor any place to build it, even if it wouldn't cost billions a mile. There's a limit to how many cars you can fit on a highway and that limit is extremely small in dense cities.",
"Sounds like you haven't figured out how not to be a dick yet.",
"12 years ago I packed everything up and moved myself from Michigan to Seattle. I got the joy of hanging out in one of these cars for the 3 day trek, while listening to some great soundtracks while enjoying the countryside and tons of towns. ",
".... please tell me you're not actually reading while driving? Ffs get audio books. Doesn't matter how \"good you are at driving\" or how boring, looking away from the road for extended periods of time is just stupid..",
"> It adds like 2 hours to total transit time\n\nIt's not just train stoppages to let people on and off. Even high speed rail needs to slow around cities, this is how it works in Europe.",
"His username makes me believe he'd be dabbing wax, but what do I know? ",
"That is because the NEC is capacity constrained. There's more demand for those seats than there are seats, and they can't run more trains until Congress actually invests in infrastructure.\n\nSo they price accordingly to the limited seats.",
"For the same price I could get a one month eurorail pass to any country unlimited rides",
"What landscape? Half the time, both sides of the train are behind huge berms or concrete barriers designed to minimize noise for the neighboring houses. It's a beautiful view of scrub bushes, abandoned shopping carts, methhead tents, and piles of garbage. \n \nAt least some of the crackheads wave at you as you go by.",
"Done a few overnight train trips here in the US. LA to Albuquerque, LA to Seattle, and most recently, LA to Chicago. Fantastic way to travel if you can afford it. Looking to do another train trip from LA to New York or Boston sometime in the future.\n\nEDIT: Missed a word.",
"Coach would likely be cheaper than flying. Getting a sleeper car would probably be more comparable to flying.",
"You're forgetting the fact that the cars will be controlled by an AI, run on solar electricity, and will be coordinated perfectly and seamlessly.\n\nThey'll be able to travel fast as shit in perfect unison. There won't BE traffic, because there wont be any drivers, just one central AI program controlling everything. Stuff will pass through cities at a 100+ mph without ever tapping the breaks.\n\nFor cities like NY, self driving cars won't replace the subway.\n\nBut for cities like Atlanta, Dallas, LA, etc. , it will revolutionize everything.",
"From my understanding train travel sucks because train companies focus more on transporting goods and materials more than passengers. They do this because they don't have many passengers to begin with. \n\n\n\n\nThat could be because they don't focus on passengers. It could be a never ending loop if you want it to be. They already make a decent profit from industry transport so why bother shifting to transporting people when it's less lucrative and more risky.",
"It might have been on short notice, I couldn't even find coach for less than $600!",
"We want what he's on",
"... [177 is double 166?](https://imgur.com/a/AQq29)\n\nEDIT: Also what about the carry on baggage fees? and the \"security\" line?",
"Are you sure this isn't the train to the Capitol",
"Whys that? Most countries subsidize their transportation systems as a public good. ",
"The practical concerns are valid. But I mean, they built Mt. Rushmore in the middle of nowhere just to lure tourists in... anything is possible. \n\nIt doesn’t have to be faster than flying, though, that’s the thing. It’s more comfortable than flying, with fewer restrictions, so it just has to priced competitively. Something like Chi-SF would be great for a sleeper service as well. It’s too short of a flight to sleep, but the train would save you money on a night’s lodging. \n\nCompared to driving, it saves wear and tear, doesn’t require the actual labor of driving (especially through the big flat states), and allows you to rest, be productive, or spend quality time with companions. \n\nThere would be a market if they sold it right. \n\nBut Amtrak has turned so many people off, it is likely impossible to recover in all likelihood. \n\nThe funding and construction is of course the biggest issue. And considering our roads and bridges are awful, we can’t expect shiny new things anytime soon.",
"Given the choice between Sandpoint and Boise...I'll take the mountains, thank you. ",
"ouch.\n\nSo basically, get a giant metal bird consistently in the sky for a period of time going hundreds of miles an hour = few hours, throw a $20 in the hat on your way in.\n\nBut rolling a hunk of metal along the ground at like 40 mph will cost you a couple days and part of your left arm.",
"Nope, they have to stop and pick people up at every station",
"\nConfined movement joined with the outer movement, maybe? In planes and autos you're regularly tied in, and in a secured room on a latrine, you're for the most part unfit to move much as well. ",
"More room and drastically more comfortable than a train or a bus, but you're still sleeping in a kind of chair. I didn't get much sleep the first night, which helped put me out the second. I've always had a lot of trouble sleeping in anything other than a bed though, so weigh that anecdote in that context. \n\nI'd definitely do coach again, but I might bring a sleeping pill.",
"Any idea if something like this is available now? And how much it is? ",
"This is, sadly, true. When I lived in Fargo, the Jefferson/Greyhound line down to the Twin Cities took an average of 4-5 hours, while an AmTrak trip could take 6+; more if you counted the amount of time they were late picking us up (my second ever trip on Amtrak departed Fargo over three hours late). However, 6 hours in AmTrak seats was so much more comfortable and tolerable than 4 in a coach. For me, it really was worth the price and time difference.",
"It only costs $177 to go from Chicago to LA round trip! I’m tempted to use that as an excuse to visit a friend in Cali",
"I feel like, as beautiful as this is, I would be motion sick in no time sitting in this car. :/",
"I think you sold me.",
"Yeah... Look at a map of America west of the Mississippi River. Cities aren’t the issue. ",
"What? It's absolutely a huge difference between coach and business class for the DC<>NY trains. Wifi is better, more space between chairs, wider chairs, usually fewer people and it includes some food/drink. ",
"Everything looks fast when you're careening down an embankment",
"Yes, they do. That's the major sticking point on completing it and why the initial segment isn't getting to LA, it's ringed by mountains.",
"I never said nonstop. \n\nJust fewer stops for the sake of expediency. ",
"They *can* go quite fast. They just have the stop every half hour for 10 or 50 minutes to let a freight train pass. Again, and again. ",
"This dude is telling folks to just go and start railroads. You're wasting your time and frankly at this point its embarrassing. You see what I did there?",
"I ride Amtrak whenever I have the luxury of time. It is my favorite way to travel. I have never ridden in a car like this, but the scenery at ground level is certainly better than the view from 30,000 ft. \n\nTwo images stick in my mind, though:\n\nThe first was on the *Northeast Regional* on a trip between Boston and DC, pulling into Baltimore's Penn Station. On the way in I saw a group of boys playing football in an urban park. Then we passed some trees, and it was like one of those scenes in a movie where the camera pulls back and tilts downward so you can see the Big Picture. Blocks of abandoned buildings. The person seated behind me actually gasped. The juxtapositon of the innocent young kids and the broken environment was surreal. \n\nThe second was several years later, on a trip across PA on Amtrak's aptly named *Pennsylvanian*. I've actually ridden this route several times. It's easy to forget that Pennsylvania is a very rural state between Philly and Pittsburgh. The scenery is beautiful but there isn't a lot to see. Occasionally you come across these small communities with maybe two dozen mobile homes and gravel roads built right near the tracks. I remember thinking that they looked like ghost towns - partially because some actually *are* ghost towns, but partially because it was a cold time of year and everyone was inside. \n\nExcept on this one particular day . . . we passed through one of these hamlets and the only person outside was this one little girl. I happened to look up from my laptop the right time to see her. She wasn't more than five or six, and she was standing on the \"porch\" of her small home, waving at the train as we rolled on. \n\nSometimes I think of those black and brown boys in Baltimore, and I think of that little blonde girl in central PA, and I wonder how much progress will just pass them by.",
"For many people \"in a train\" can be the vacation destination.",
"What a beautiful way to throw up every 3 minutes!",
"I've been trying to pull myself up by my boot straps, but my boots don't have any straps. I went to Walmart to buy some, but they didn't have any. ",
"Yup this train is for people specifically seeking out this type of experience. Had a cousin that saved up specifically to take a vacation in this car and I'll probably gift it to my Dad as birthday present this year. \n\nThis isn't really a train people book for point A to B travel.",
"I sleep across those joined chairs in the observation car :/\n\nEdit: wrong car",
"Beautifully made...👍",
"Yes but the food sucks and the ride is unconfortable, especially at night when the drivers are gunning it",
"We need bullet trains coast to coast...although that is probably extremely expensive",
"Was looking to travel from Cleveland to NYC in November. I chose to drive 9 hours because the train was 12 minimum on the most direct route, 18+ for a different train that connected through Boston. And it was only 3 tanks of gas round trip.",
"Weird! Well from what I've seen of prices that's not generally the norm. If you ever have the opportunity to take a train trip for a reasonable cost I'd recommend it! Wonderful experience!",
"As awesome as America often is, our work culture and medical system are easily some of the shittiest in the developed world. ",
"Went from Clemson, SC to San Antonio a few years ago. It was pretty terrible. They ran out of most of the food half way there and the workers were some of the rudest I have ever seen. Also had to stop every hour or so for 30 minutes while a freight train went by. Good to experience it once, but never again. ",
"Sneak in your own alcohol, bring a deck of cards",
"High labor costs and low ridership because it's slower than crawling there. It stops all the time to pick up and drop off passengers. The one trip I've taken was 5.5 hours vs a 3.5 hour drive.",
"It me",
"It's a dilemna",
"It’s insane. I was looking to go Amtrak from Chicago to DC a couple years ago. \nAmtrak was $190 round trip. Each way took 13.5 hours. \nFlying was $170 and took 90 minutes. ",
"Yes but you take airplane and its like waiting in line for a roller coaster, will this thing crash on the way, will the roller coaster derail. All things to ponder. ",
"Where do you find the deals?",
"He's going for a darwin award, luckily he will probably give another person one too!",
"Sitting sideways would make me sick, I think. Hopefully they are fun swivel seats.",
"The busiest air routes are a rough approximation of where people need to travel or at the very least connect.\n\n1. NY-CHI\n2. LA-SF\n3. LA-NY\n4. CHI-LA\n5. MIA-NY\n\nAll but one of those is thousands of miles and the one route that's not has high speed rail being built right now.",
"I spent two weeks riding around on Amtrack for my honeymoon! Well worth the 10 days of vacation.",
"Often times the train traffic is other passenger trains though.",
"Don't get me wrong. As we speak I am looking into coordinating a future trip by rail. I don't even really care for the destination. The experience is the vacation for me. So I'm all for this being a thing that we have and an industry in itself.\n\n**Sadly**, not everyone is like that. People don't wanna pay for a luxury trip just to do it. I beleive the cruse industry isn't doing so hot either. That's what I wish the rail industry was like.\n\nAb experience traveling across America with a sleeper room and meals provided. It sounds so damn relaxing. Toss in a mini spa where you can get a massage while the Train rocks and it sounds lovely. I'd do it alone, and I'd do it with a spouse. Maybe not a thing for kids though, but if the trips are only a day or two it could work. It could be advertised as weekend getaways.\n\n\nAnyway, people aren't like that. They care more about getting somewhere for cheap. And people that have the money care more about getting their fast.\n\nI think it could work of there wasn't the problem of needing **RAILS**. That's a bitch. If not for that I totally see this being a viable business. The demand just isn't there and the cost is too damn high. ",
"In my early 20s I loved it, although trains are wicked cool to me anyway. It was a bit like a rolling hostel, definitely better than travelling by bus. \n\nI had a cabin that was, I don't know, ~20 square feet, but for dinner you shared tabled in the dining car. It led to neat conversation with strangers. On another train I didn't have a cabin, just a coach seat, but I barely spent time in it. I was all over the train, taking walks, sitting in the very car OP linked, with a bottle of Evan Williams and a can of ginger ale on the side table. One night I met a bunch of people my age, and had a poker game become a drinking game become a rap battle. I fell asleep in the cafe car another night night, and woke up high in the Rockies with Denver in the distance, great view.\n\n The tracks run through places in Colorado you can only see by train or by raft. Seriously unique, I really hope to do a lot more trips by rail, but sadly it's very expensive. It's almost always cheaper to fly or drive. ",
"Even got the 'I'm quirky and shy' thing going with the, \"well.. I' already in bed....and on mobile..\"",
"I found this explanation really informative in explaining the economics of train fares vs plane tickets \n\nhttps://youtu.be/fwjwePe-HmA",
"Don't want to dissapoint",
"I had coach, I just slept in the viewing car every night, much nicer and no one around.",
"Nope, was reading https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00G1DBC5C/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1 but ran into a ditch right after crossing the CO state line.",
"More like \" give me a view.. Not a healthy conversation with another human.. \"",
"That’s what happens when you only have one man at the controls. Blame the greedy railroads. ",
"I plan on taking a train and traveling in just over a month or so, and this is now what I want to do! Did the train make stops, If so how often and how long were they? Do you have any guess as to what the cost mwy be currently? Any tips you'd have?",
"I looked at TX to CA once. Travel time 36 hours, changing trains twice, vs a non-stop flight in 3 hours. Total cost for a coach seat around five times the price of air fare. Nope, not happening!.",
"The reason for this is because the vast majority of track was laid by the freight companies. The government passed laws that forces them to allow amtrack on to their tracks but must give the right of way to the track owners trains. In other countries the rail lines are owned by the government so things are much different. America has the largest rail network in the world by far by 90% is for freight train only. People complain about lack of passenger trains but dont think about what allows them to buy thing online and get it within 48 hours",
"Sounds like you haven't figured out how to take a joke.",
"I love audiobooks! I actually can't really focus on audiobooks except when I'm driving anymore... I think I've conditioned myself or something.",
"Nah... Bussing with beebish. ",
"I wonder would rail passes also include this? I heard those were pretty good if you wanted to tour the country.",
"Bay area to Chicago on the California Zephyr. The best $220 I spent on traveling. 2.5 days of traveling while relaxing on coach and seeing what the best scenery the US of A has to offer. ",
"https://www.amtrak.com/take-the-trains-across-america-with-usa-rail-pass It'a not as accomaodating, but it's totally worth it.",
"> anything is possible.\n\nNo, it's really not.\n\n------\n\nHSR works in other places because of large intermediate cities and shorter distances. The sweet spot is essentially Europe (or the US Northeast), where you've got all sorts of major cities spaced out at 150-300mi distances. \n\nLong enough that driving is tedious, not long enough that flying is substantially faster.\n\nAnd the US outside of a few places (primarily the Northeast) has the additional disadvantage of weak public transit at your destination to solve the \"last mile\" challenge of actually getting you to the things you want to get to from the train station.\n\n> There would be a market if they sold it right.\n\nHSR doesn't make money anywhere but Japan, and that's primarily because of property development rather than fares.\n\nAnyway, it's totally absurd to be thinking about cross-country HSR before we've built in the places where it's an obvious need.",
"I'd think for some people, the train ride itself could be the vacation, and it'd be pretty affordable compared to come other vacations. ",
"Amtrak can suck a fat one. My first and last Amtrak experience recently went something like this\n\n-Get to station at 7pm train scheduled to arrive at 9pm (idiotic parent's idea) \n\n-I told said parent several times before hand that we shouldn't go to the fucking train station two hours early but of course I was ignored\n\n-Tell parent that the train will be late since train are always late and parent continues to be retarded and stubborn\n\n-End up waiting though several large delays when the train finally rolls in at 11:45 at fucking night\n\n-Parent is then extremely butthurt and frustrated over the trains tardiness and the accompanying torrent of \"I told you so.\"'s from yours truly\n\n-Get on train, we paid $400+ for quality seats in the WiFi car with paid meals.\n\n-No WiFi, no heat, and no electricity outside of basic isle lights and headlamps.\n\n-Out of meals shortly after breakfast is announced and haven't eaten since the previous dinner\n\n-use one of the several emergency sandwiches that I insisted each of us bring that parent said we wouldn't need (wrong again fucko)\n\n-27 hour trip on unclean, stiff seats\n\n-get bedbugs and ticks and suffer for the next week\n\n-drive for an hour and a half to get to realative's place\n\n-visit family for two weeks\n\n-arrive at nearby station to leave\n\n-forced to ride local train to get back to main station since amtrak doesn't go to the local station (too small idk)\n\n-ride for an hour on a local train that is comfy, heated, powered, with working WiFi\n\n-Employees with WiFi password too busy fml\n\n-Get to main station end up on same shitty Amtrak fml\n\n-Same conditions as last time except the bathrooms are actually clean this time\n\n-25 hour trip with better service and more meals because this crew is fresher and all around better than the other one\n\n-get bedbugs and ticks again and suffer for the next two weeks\n\nNEVER AGAIN\n\nEdit: spacing and a word",
"Tried to get on the old I-25, I presume",
"I don't know, I haven't seen too many subways that can turn down any street.",
"was on it, can confirm. ",
"Example...?",
"It's way cheaper now. My husband and I went on a 2 week honeymoon summer of 2016 and got the \"ride up to 8 legs over 15 days\" pass for $450 each. Upgrades to sleeper cabins were a little extra, but we were looking for a cheap-ish honeymoon where we didn't have to do much planning (wedding planning is enough! Also, we had other stuff going on around then that was taking a lot of time), and could spend a lot of time just hanging out with each other with no pressure. Highly recommend it!\n\nAnd yes, they did have random retirees and tour guides speaking in the viewing cars!",
"Was thinking about doing this from cali to nyc but I read its not that it really is. And its smelly and dirty...",
">it's only the nice part of Idaho, sorry.",
"In the event that this train inevitably derails, I wonder how strong that glass is.",
"He make joke",
"[Wendover Productions did an enlightening video on the high cost of rail transportation.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwjwePe-HmA)\n\nOne of the biggest factors is the human element - a train route takes a lot of people to run and you have to pay those workers for larger amounts of time because of how slow it is compared to air travel.",
"I've done it on a couple of occasions. You'll get significantly more room than on a bus or airplane, and if there's no one next to you, they don't mind if you stretch out a bit. Not bad really.",
"Not bad? That's crazy cheap. Cross Canada train trips are thousands",
"> The Coast Starlight\n\nI took it from LA to Seattle several years ago and had a sleeper. Was not cheap (I don't remember the amount, but I'm remember thinking it was pretty expensive compared to coach). Fan frigging tastic ride, though. The sleeper across from mine was empty so I was able to see the Pacific (saw dolphins and a bald eagle!). If you have the time and money I highly recommend it. I love trains.",
"Yeah, I'm 6'4\" and I ride the Amtrak from Portland, ME to Boston now and then and legroom has never been a problem for me. ",
"I made a music video about this train ride if anyone is interested in the amazing views: https://vimeo.com/detmafilms/zephyr",
"If there isn’t a strike on that particular day",
"You’d be really surprised how many people completely check out when driving on long trips. I’ve seen drivers read the newspaper while going 75. Distracted driving is nothing new. Nor is getting a case of beer or “road sodas” for a three hour drive. Be safe out there folks. ",
"Looks like the same view every time I take that damn train. Doesn't matter where I go.",
"They do regular smoking stops which are just longer stops at stations. You have to get out of the train to smoke, so you could probably get away with it.",
"Too bad this wasn't /r/unexpectedds9",
"See these motherfuckers seem fun til you're taking the train back for school on a Sunday night and you've got class at noon Monday and your seatmate weighs 500 pounds and snores like a motherfucker. And you have a cold. This week was rough.",
"I'm gonna need a source on that.",
"i think it would be safe to bring weed on board. I brought booze and thats not allowed. theres only security at some of the big stations, NYC, LA, et al. There are periodic smoke breaks at some stations every several hours. they last about 15 minutes if i remember right (I don't smoke tabacco and not much cannabis so i wasn't paying close attention). I think that using a vape pen would be a wise choice in this circumstance. ",
"Last time I rode Amtrak, my train was *3 hours* late. ",
"That one was on the line between the Dells and Milwaukee. Also hello fellow northern Wisconsinite ",
"I imagine business class on a train to have a lot of old timey dudes insidiously offering to buy your family farm because it's sitting on oil",
"Sounds like sounds from here.",
"I know I’m late to the show, but they have one of these that goes from NYC to Montreal and it’s worth it, especially during the winter. ",
"I thought trains were the most cost-efficient method of transportation or is that only for cargo freight?",
"Our taxes subsidize the airlines and highways, but the trains are supposed to be profitable without assistance for some reason. It doesn't make sense, and probably has something to do with powerful lobbies corrupting our government. ",
"I DONT KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE ",
"Why are the urinals right there?!?",
"It would be cheaper to get the $459 15 day rail pass: https://www.amtrak.com/take-the-trains-across-america-with-usa-rail-pass \n\nMy husband and I did that a couple years ago -- rode across the country diagonally (from Boston, stopped at New York, Chicago, Boulder, Salt Lake, San Francisco, then turned around and rode back through New Mexico, Texas, stopped at New Orleans, and back up to Boston). It was great!",
"hijacking top comment to say that the trip from SF to Seattle is amazingly beautiful and is worth whatever they're charging for it'",
"Do you even need to sneak? I can't think of a time that I've been on Amtrak and *haven't* seen folks drinking. Where else can you travel cross-country and crack open a 6-pack along the way? It's magical really.",
"Depending on fare, I'd probably be willing to do round trip. 3 tanks in my car is about 80 dollars, in the other two cars I could drive, about 95-140$. To me, $40 without having to drive seems worth it, $60-80 seems less worth it, but debatable. 100+ seems too steep. What do you think? ",
"Planes would be quicker.",
"Depends which county you go to. I got arrested in in the middle of nowhere Iowa. I blew a .009 Shit was like the Andy Griffith show, and they just dropped all the charges after I (illegally? Not even sure) drove 500 miles to come to my court date.\n\nI got arrested in Port St. Lucie Florida though too. For a blunt roach that was in some other dude's suitcase that was packed in a car I happened to be in. \n\nThose motherfuckers can suck my dick. Their jail is wack as fuck. It's basically just people who don't have any money waiting to go to court. Motherfuckers sittin 3 months cause they ain't got 50 dollars. \n\nI had to pay those bitches 500 dollars to get out, and hitchhiked a ride back to town in the back of a pickup truck with a bunch of cool ass Mexicans. Then after they ruin my whole vacation, they drop all the charges like a month later.\n\nBut the airport security, that shit sucks every time. I ain't even do anything wrong, the police kill more people than terrorists, go fuck with them. ",
"why isn't rail efficient in a big country?",
"This is not the same as the Surfliner lmao\n\nedit: for locals. Surfliner is great if you want to see the California coast.",
"Nope. It's the other way round. Amtrak has never made profit. It's kept alive by a lot of government funding. Airlines, however, are extremely profitable. The main reason: staffing. Trains need lots of people, working very long hours. Planes on the other hand need few people to staff, and fly to their destination in a few hours.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/fwjwePe-HmA",
"Amtrak.com",
"Keep in mind. That if you are buying a sleeper cabin in an Amtrak train. Then that price is for the sleeper cabin, not per passenger. \n\nIf its a sleeper cabin that fits 2 passengers. Then you can share the sleeper cabin with a friend and only pay half the cost each. If you take the entire cabin for yourself, then you are paying the entire cost. \n",
"Of course but i meant as an alternate to air travel as the only only option at the moment is an interconnected system of highways ",
"Trains serve a different purpose so I don't know why you're comparing the two. When I need to fly to LA to look at boat and be back for dinner to look at a schooner then yes, I take a plane too. But sometimes people travel for the experience and those people don't need to be everywhere in an hour. \n\nThe advantage of a train over a car is that you can relax, drink and sleep and meet other people. Your sound like a miserable person so it's probably not for you but a lot of people choose it for the experience rather than the convenience.\n",
"Oh! We've gotta comedian ova here",
"No, I doubt it. It is very tough to run a car for less than $0.30 per mile. Roundtrip is 4000 miles. That works out to an expense of 1200 dollars to drive your car.\n\nPlus lodging, perhaps, if you don't sleep in the car. If you eat from grocery stores, you would save a bit compared to riding the train.",
"I think it'd be pretty perfect if the chairs were able to swivel, rock, and recline on a fixed base.",
"Sounds like you haven't figured out how to be funny.\n\n",
"Going by rail takes you to a lot of interesting out of the way locations that you can't see on the freeways. You are surrounded by a lot of nothing, a lot of nature, and a lot of ruins of civilization and abandoned places on a train. ",
"Imagine if it crashes ",
"Just gives me r/westworld vibes.",
"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/12/18/us/amtrak-derailment-washington/index.html\n\nhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/amtrak-train-derailments-recent-list-washington/",
"Yeah I don’t even think Amtrak is expensive. I only do shorter trips (~200 miles) & it only costs $32. Sure a car would be cheaper, but you don’t have to drive, you can just read or play games or watch Netflix. Plus bring as much booze as you want. The seats are big and plenty of space. It’s a fantastic way to travel imo & well worth the cost.",
"Doesn't sound like anything to me. I'm reading this not listening to it. ",
"Gives a new meaning to take a 'wizz in the wind' so to speak.",
"So like...99.99%of social media/reddit users?\n\nAt least with Facebook people KNOW who they are talking to. Here, it’s like everyone’s Jekyl comes out to play.",
"I don’t hear anything. ",
"I agree with you on a theoretical basis. The history of the railroads in the US is fascinating and is worth the time researching.\n\nI think the big problem that you would encounter building service like the one in your example is the money required to accomplish the feat. Building many of the main lines of service that helped define US rail was a joint venture between the big capitalists at the time and the US government. The money that it cost to simply build the transcontinental railroad in the 1800s was massive and that was accomplished in the time when land was easy to obtain. \n\nTo build meaningful high speed long distance service to just a few of the major cities would be astronomically expensive assuming we could leverage existing right of ways. Separating the service from existing freight lines would multiply that number into something must people would consider ludicrous (hard to quantify but think about buying all the land or rights to the land and then building a high speed rail network on top). I can imagine the numbers getting into the trillions to build that meaningful service. Then you preclude yourself from the value that freight adds to the line and you will be unable to recoup those costs.\n",
"I couldn't help but think of the first trains crossing the wild west...",
"I took that ride in 1991 and agree. The Rockies were amazing, and so were the plains. \n\nIf I was going to do it again, though, I’d get a sleeper of some kind — I don’t think I slept more than an hour or two in the regular seats. ",
"They ought to have had a marketing deal with Snowpiercer.",
"For freight they are very cost effective, not so much for people. ",
"You sound pretty triggered.",
"Sounds like it was worth the experience, something I’m putting a lot more thought into doing myself after reading your post! :) ",
"I was gonna say that it must've been awhile since he has looked at a map of California. There are mountains all up and down the state and, as you mentioned, LA itself is literally surrounded by them.",
"it's to hold your snacks and drinks (beer) bought at the snack bar on the bottom level of the car. \n\nSource - I ride Amtrak occasionally and find it better than flying if you are only needing to travel a few hundred miles. Although there is a 50/50 chance the train will be running horribly late, there has been a couple times I didn't even get to board till after the scheduled arrival time at my destination. ",
"Ruins and abandonment? Where?",
"All I can think about is \"Snowpiercer\" when I see this picture. ",
"[Choose one...](https://imgur.com/a/HWZfG)",
"I remember reading a short story in middle school called \"No one rides trains anymore\" or something like that. The narrator described growing up during the decline of the rail system. Explaining that when she was young (1940s/50s maybe?), everyone took trains. She always looked forward to going with her father on business because he would take her to the restaurant car and several other luxury cars, which included a candy shop. It was like a small, mobile city. She then explains that one trip, there were fewer train cars and fewer people and that the trend kept going until it was just coach cars and then their station and routes shut down. It was kind of sad. I was trying to find it, but can't remember much about it.",
"This reminds me of westworld...",
"You replied to a different person than the one that made the joke.",
"westworld",
"Kronole?",
"That's not really a special deal or anything, just standard ticket prices straight from Amtrak. \n\nIf you're a student they have something called a student advantage card. Costs 20 bucks but it'll save you about $45 off a trip in the price range of what I mentioned. \n\nNot big savings, but it's better than nothing",
"Yeah. I could maybe justify it if I got to take my car with me on the train, saving car rental cost and all. There is only one route in the US that actually allows you to haul a personal vehicle though, so it isn't exactly viable. ",
"Took the Caifornia Zephyr for my highschool spring break. From Chicago to San Francisco, it was amazing. \n\n\nEdit: https://www.amtrak.com/california-zephyr-train\nI did this almost 20 years ago. Fuck, I'm old",
"“Hello airplanes? Yeah, it’s trains; you win”",
"..Decela?\n\nBeen there, NYC to DC. The train was 2 hours late departing Union Station, got stalled in Baltimore for a freight train and got into DC more than an hour after the station closed, so I couldn't even get my rental car and had to take a taxi to my hotel.",
"In light of the recent Amtrak derailment that killed 3 people in Washington I assure you you don't want this.",
"I don't know how you slept. I was in a sleeper car and all the shaking from the slowing down at railroad crossings then speeding back up kept me up at the entire night. ",
"This is also on the Coast Starliner, from Seattle to Los Angelas.",
"You're I nulls...:P",
"Well, hopefully that won't be the case in 10-15 years. ",
"Damn, domestic flights within the U.S. are that cheap?! I'm visiting the West Coast of your wonderful country from Australia at the end of this year but I'm now thinking I could stretch it to the East for part of the trip. I've always wanted to visit New York and that's MUCH cheaper than the cost of flying from Sydney to Perth (which I do semi-frequently).",
"You give me 20 days and I'm still not going to waste 6 days traveling on a train would it could have been 8 hours.",
"Why do you think trains in the Netherlands don’t ride on time? Happens all the time",
"I did take one in a sleeper car as a kid (NY to FL) it was really neat. I'm sorely tempted to illegally \"ride the rails\" but there's so many ways to die/end up in jail and post 911 it'd be too much risk of getting caught coming out of NY for me!",
"I take the train from LA to Tucson. Both ends of the trip leave late at night and arrive early in the morning. I like to drive but sometimes I like to read and sleep instead. ",
"Freight rail takes priority for a good reason",
"China has a very efficient rail system for a country as big as the US.",
"The train stops at every Amtrak station along the route, however depending on how many people are getting on/off at the spot determines if they allow you to get out and stretch your legs for a few minutes. Typically, I would say every 3-5 hours they let you off. I bought a rail pass and it lets you book 8 segments over a 2 week period and it costs $450. You can do a round trip of America if you really wanted to with this. As far as tips, bring your own food and drinks. Bring stuff to do (books, games, tv shows, movies). Bring a blanket, pillow, ear plugs, and an eye mask if you plan on sleeping in coach (it sucks but it can be done). Go to the observation car if you are riding a superliner. More comfortable than sitting in coach, better view, has tables so you can play board games or whatever, and the cafe lounge car is right below you if you really want to buy an $8 frozen pizza for some reason. ",
"Last time I did that I slept like shit, too. Mattress was not great on the back, and the train shakes in the middle of the night which kept waking me up. Only got a few hours of shut-eye and was not a happy camper in the morning. Fortunately, I smoked a joint with some random hippies when we stopped for a few minutes in Nebraska, and things were cool after that.",
"Aware. I work for a tourism company. Our cars are usually packed, but it depends on the ships.",
"Amtrak train lines are often surrounded by a lot of poverty. Factories were built around train lines in the past, and today many of those factories lie in ruins. \n\nYou can see a lot of poverty on an Amtrak train. Things like tent cities, shantytowns, and factory ruins. ",
"Make your own. ",
"Lol that's absolutely not true. The volume (or lack thereof) does not determine pricing. It's red tape, decreasing subsidies, older infrastructure, and operating costs.",
"Highly recommend Great American Railroad Journeys, a UK-made documentary series, if you can track it down. Fair few episodes where you see the awesome observation car pictured!\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_American_Railroad_Journeys",
"/r/railcorporate",
"The prices would have to be VERY low to compete with car and air",
"If anyone needs me, I'll be in the bar car.",
"What's a good route?",
"Even in California what sucks for us is that many times we have to transfer to busses for half of the trip and takes away from the experience ",
"I took the amtrak from fargo to williston and back to visit some relatives. Aside from the shitty arrival/departure times in fargo the ride was great. The best was after sleeping in my seat with a full reclining seat waking up walking to the food car and grabbing some breakfast then sitting in one of the cars identical to OPs picture just watching the prairie go by as I ate.\n\nIF there was more rail coverage and you aren't in a hurry I think it would be a great way to travel on a vaction. Also at least at the time there wasn't all the TSA bullshit to go through.",
"I took Amtrak to Chicago from LA and back. 3 days each way. They had tour guides in this section that pointed out where battles took place, ghost towns, etc. ",
"Has anyone ever been on the 4 day cross country train ride from cali to new york? Do they provide food? How is it? Do you and your friend get to stay in the same bunk room? How much money is a safe amount to take? Also Is it round trip or one way? Because id love to take it there and back and I dont mind paying for it twice to do so.",
"Cc is for running",
"Amtrak definitely does not have priority over all freight trains.",
"He said drive not die.",
"I'm about the same height as you and Amtrak is *way* better than any airplane I've ever been on for accommodating long legged freaks like us.\n\nIt's gotten to the point that whenever I fly domestically, I have to use an airline that has the legroom upgrade section in the middle, between coach and first class. For me, it's worth the extra $40 per flight to get the extra legroom seats. I'm so incredibly cramped in coach on every airline I've flown in the states.\n\nAmtrak, however, has tons of legroom and that's on their cheapest unreserved coach seats that I always get. It my vary from train to train but I think they are all relatively similar design in the coach cars. ",
"I don't see any real reason why a private company can't provide good, fun rail service that is more about entertainment than productive travel.",
"Damn that's a gorgeous scenery outside the train!",
"Next time will be by train. Parking for four nights nearly complemented the cost of train. Plus, I'd be grabbing a private sleeper and having a couple drinks on the train to pass the time, show up right at the terminal, easy peasy.\n\nIt cost me $90 to drive and $100 to park. I'd happily pay another $40 for me and my gal each to not have to make that drive again.\n\n",
"Well obviously it's route dependant, taking the train could be a lot cheaper than flying if Amtrak goes through an obscure city that only one regional flight serves. But flying can be half the price, and some people are NEXUS/Global Entry/TSA PRE members so faster security, and not everyone needs baggage. ",
"Observation cars are great...until its 3am and drunk ass people are in there singing and you can't even see anything outside because you're in kansas and there are no city lights to see.",
"i did the same trip last year and paid roughly the same price. worth every penny! the people i met on the train were fantastic!",
"Yeah, it really is a shame. So much beauty could be admired through train travel. I feel like it would be so lucrative, and a no brainer with electric vehicles becoming more common. ",
"Buildiing high speed rail (which needs massive turning circle, so all track needs to be basically straight) would be insanely expensive through the rockey mountains",
"I doubt they do inside. They used to have smoking platforms on top, but I've never seen one recently.",
"Kansas must be rough.",
"You obviously have no idea what California looks like. ",
"This right here. Unless you're actually trying to transport your car from one end of the country to the other, train travel works out cheaper. You're going to spend $50-100 per night for lodging, maybe more. And, you're only going to be driving 8-12 hours a day unless you're being dangerous.\n\nThe train will include lodging, and will be on the move closer to 18-22 hours per day on average, depending on the route. (Most routes will have a long stopover in Chicago or somewhere else where you're going to change trains.)\n\nIt'll take 4 days to drive the same distance that a train will cover in 2.5. And you can sit back and relax and do whatever you want.\n\nNeither compares to flying, though, and the downside to train travel is there are only certain routes you can take, so your destination might not even be possible. And you can't stop for a few hours to go sightseeing like you can if you drive.\n\nBut it does make sense in some cases. Like, if you have to transport a lot of luggage one way and you're in no rush. \n\nA good friend of mine did this moving from New York to Seattle, with all their belongings, and the most cost-effective way was to take the train one way. This was like ten years ago, though, so I'm not sure if it's still true, but it was then.",
"This is absolutely feasible on smaller scale distances, but chicago-SF is nuts",
"I went from LA to Seattle on one of these trains which is 36hrs. One of the best 36hrs of my life. Partied with people the whole time it was amazing! ",
"Why should it be? ",
"I’m sorry but this comment is so, so dumb.\n\nAmtrak is a farce designed by Big Rail™️ so they wouldn’t have to explain to the public why they don’t provide unprofitable passenger service? Haha what?\n\nThe large majority of railways are private. They don’t need to explain anything. They don’t use that much public railway. Amtrak was designed after the hay day of mass railway transit *anyway*. This is conspiratorial and false.\n\nFreight trains yield to Amtrak on government tracks, and vice versa on private tracks. Which is about the most logical prediction to be made around that setup.",
"Would have been even more fun if your spouse had come too! lol",
"As someone who was raised in Kansas, I'm sure it is.",
"You've gotten use to it. Taking your belt off, your shoes, being zapped by t-rays. It is security theater and it is absolutely wasteful and demoralizing.",
"I would be vomiting violently ",
"Did this for 2 weeks when I was in 4th grade. Illinois down to New Orleans, then west to the Grand Canyon, then back to Illinois. Best trip I’ve ever taken. Took it again for my honeymoon. Illinois out to DC. Then drove to Boston and Cape Cod. Then train back to Illinois. If you can do first class (not terribly more $) its worth it. Sleeper car, meals and drinks all included.",
"What train(s) do you take for that trip? As far as I can tell whenever I've looked at the railmap on the Amtrak website, there is no direct train from LA to SF. There is the Surfliner that goes from SD--LA--San Luis Obisbo but then you have to jump on a bus from there to SF. \n\nAnother person mentioned the Coast Starlight. I think that is the one that goes up further north but I don't think it makes it as far down as San Luis Obisbo to connect, does it? \n\n*edit* - apparently Coast Starlight is LA--Seattle so either I'm dumb and can't figure out the Amtrak website or they were doing rail maintenance and were transferring to bus for certain legs of the trip (which seems to happen a lot on Amtrak lines in California).",
"10 vacation days a year? I need a new job man\n",
"It sucks. It makes me want to move",
"r/interestingasfuck",
"Why not? That's 4-5 hours of more comfort ",
"Between large city centers, I think high-speed rail is the way to go.\n\nFor those small town stops, think Havre, Montana between Seattle and Chicago, you could probably have the slower trains running between them and the city centers.\n\nSo you end up with **direct** high-speed connections between Chicago and Seattle, and slower (albeit faster than today) and more frequent trains between smaller towns and the large cities.",
"Which is one of the main reasons trains are worse in the US than in most places: Most of the track is owned by freight companies, and leased by Amtrak. So it costs more *and* the freight traffic tends to have right of way. This is the exact opposite of how trains work in Europe.\n\nI suspect this has a lot to do with *the* main reason trains are worse: Geography and population density.",
"\n>LPT: That trough is not there to pee in.\n\nThis guy Dodger Stadium’s",
"What is the recommended route if I am booking on the Amtrack site?",
"Yup. There is an automated system that was approved for use on trains in 2008,that slows trains to safe speeds at turns. ",
"You'd also think we'd have figured out some high speed, affordable rails by now maybe. But I dunno. Corruption I guess? Or logistics? Or both?",
"The CA proposed high speed train route is almost all running up and down the central valley. The smaller part near LA through mountains is not much of the whole. They can't even get ANY of this right; the proposed dates keep getting pushed back and nobody is betting this will actually get done. \n\nThis is all in reply to the OP who implied it would be relatively easy to build this high speed line from Chicago to LA across the Rocky Mountains!!",
"I'm actually Canadian, but yes US flights are that cheap! I feel your pain though, Vancouver to Toronto (little shorter than SEA>JFK) can easily be $300 one way. \n\nTotally do it, New York is awesome. If you can, get a window seat on the right hand side of the aircraft if you're flying into JFK. The approach brings you right over downtown Manhattan, central park, etc. Absolutely stunning. \n\nEdit: west coast of the US is amazing too. Portland is quite a fun place if you make it that far north, and the beaches on the Oregon Coast are phenomenal (but I guess you have good beaches in Aus). ",
"This looks awesome until the conductor decides to take it 80 mph in a 35mph limit section of the track. ",
"As a conductor I assure you this is not true. In most territories, Amtrak has absolute priority. Different territories of track are governed by different agreements. Like someone else said, its clearly stated in GCOR for dispatchers that passenger trains will have priority. Then again it depends on the trackage. UP, BNSF, etc.",
"Looks too much like the Snowpiercer train cart. Way too unsettling",
"Can thank unbridled capitalism and corruption for that. And plenty of dumb people to vote for the worst politicians.",
"My Acela train took longer than the regular train. 💪💪",
">don't have long legs\n\nThe hell are you talking about? I've never had a problem with leg room on any amtrak train I've been on.\n",
"China is approximately the same size as the continental USA and they have developed an incredible high speed rail system and it is awesome. The US is so backwards in so many ways, and you have so many people who are either 1. Extremist and ignorant Patriots who insist the US is the best at *everything*, 2. Apologists who explain why doing better isn't possible in the US, even with clear comparable counter-examples.",
"Amtrak is not safe, no thanks ",
"We took Amtrak across country to New Mexico for a Boy Scout camp Philmont. On the way back they completely overbooked the the train and forced me and some other later arriving Boy Scouts to sleep in one of those viewing cars. Was beautiful to wake up in but fuck Amtrak. ",
"What? No trains to Hawaii? Rats. 😀",
"[America and high speed trains don’t work very well. This was Amtrak’s first high speed run from Seattle to Portland. If I recall correctly, it cost $187 million to set up, it lasted about 40 miles.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2017/12/18/amtrak-train-derails-in-washington-state-rail-cars-fall-onto-interstate-5/?utm_term=.51cdfa6f7fee)",
"It depends on the route. If you are going super long-distance with quite a few connections, yeah, it'll be expensive. But routes with state support (Cascades, San Joaquins, etc) and even single-route trains can compete. Say Sacramento to Chicago, on Amtrak is 165$ while airlines is around the same on average. \n\nBut yeah, we do need more financial support for Amtrak to make connections better, easier and cheaper :)",
"I’d rather just drive 13 hours at that point. Less than $100 in gas. ",
"And here's the boring guy",
"Yah i know",
"Precheck for dignity ",
"Kinda just assumed as a collective since the train was sitting for over an hour and no other trains came past during that time. Like if a train stopped to let another through that type of deal but nothing like that. Just a whole lotta nothin. ",
"Any tips for traveling by train? I live very near an SF --> Chicago route, and have been very tempted, but I'm afraid it won't be as romantic as I expect it to be.",
"Unfortunately it's an easy way out which is very traumatic for the driver, happened to me in the UK a couple of years back when on the way home from work(in the UK the train is used a lot for commuting)",
"Just more reason to actually build dedicated passenger rails in specific corridors :) would make both freight companies and passengers happy, plus be a job boon for a while for construction and maintenance! ",
"Did San Diego to New York by Amtrak. All the trains I took had this panoramic coach in it. ",
">China is approximately the same size as the continental USA and they have developed an incredible high speed rail system and it is awesome.\n\nChina is a communist non-democracy. If you fail to see how this effects labor price, ascertaining land, raw materials etc. don't bother responding.",
"I know what the train route looks like; its 90% in the central valley.",
"A trip that takes days by rail takes only hours via plane. That plane only has to pay for staff for those few hours, has fewer staff per # of passengers compared to the train, doesn't need to worry about the logistics of meal service or waste water disposal, or need extra accommodations for sleeping crew and passengers. Those are just the operating expenses-- it can also turn around and make a return trip in the same day to help make up its equipment cost faster.\n\nOf course the plane is cheaper :P",
"> and not to mention 250mph is only present in very small sections of Europe right now\n\nAFAIR 250 mph is available only in China with transrapid maglev monorail. European high speed railways are capable of reaching 250-300, that's true, but the unit is km/h, not mph.",
"Wait trains have TSA checks as well now? That sucks",
"Some people might prefer to not drive at night. \n\nI've driven many of the main western highways (80, 70, US 50, 40, 15, 5) and there are plenty of sections where twilight hours are not the safest time to drive with wildlife on the roads. In the winter you might only have 8-10 hours of daylight (sometimes those time changes are awesome, other times they suck) to drive anyway, with twilight being pretty variable due to topography. \n\nWhen I was 18 and invincible, yeah, I drove Oakland to Denver in about 18 hours (which included a few hours rest in Fallon, NV until gas station opened). That was the middle of summer though. \n\nI just did the same drive (well, from Steamboat Springs actually) at Christmas and it took basically two days, stopping in either Wendover or Ely, depending on weather/route/etc. There's only so many hours in the day.",
"I road on this train. Seats suck! I fell asleep in storage cart for 3 days. ",
"$80 bucks so the coach passengers have to watch business class disembark first so they can be 2 minutes earlier to work.",
"I don't know, I'm saying at the time I went they did not. But I do remember them trying to get involved in trains and busses too.",
"Took a cross-country Amtrak from NY to LA (short layover in Chicago) 5 years ago and it was a great experience! If you go with a few good friends, it’s a really nice way to just bond and talk while seeing some amazing landscapes. I grew up in NY and thought I’d seen it all growing up in the city, but this trip made me realize there’s so much more to America I don’t know. ",
"I’d rather drive through, and I hate long drives. At least you’d be able to stop at interesting local places on the way. With a train you just see them in passing and think about what it would be like going to them, and it’s still not that much cheaper than flying.\n\nTake a plane if you want to get there fast, do a road trip and alternate driving duties if you want to actually experience things on the way.",
"Personally, I've never found \"take your belt off so we can make sure you don't have a knife hidden in there or something\" all that demoralizing. \n\nIf you're completely unprepared to go through security, you're gonna have a bad time. \n\nI don't mind security at all. Not because I'm used to it. Because I'm prepared for it and the process moves smoothly as a result. ",
"Yeah, kinder the main issue of traveling by train in most of not all western country's, had to get a train home over xmass, would have cost 20 more to fly if it wasn't xmass, flying is n hour, train was 7",
"?",
"It mostly depends on the number of connecting trains. Most trains from the west must go through Chicago, including KC I believe. That's one drawback and cause of higher pricing for certain routes :/",
"Wow... It costs me £88 to travel 2 ½ hours from the north of England to London on our train services here in the UK and is about 200 miles",
"Almost looks like a still straight from Westworld.",
"I suggest to you that \"security\" is not what you are going through when you fly.",
"Haha that's funny because he said something that wasn't true ha ha ha",
"Yeah same on way there from Texas to Chicago. But man oh man I did not like the trip back. It was slow as hell. ",
"There's a few in Europe that come darn close to 250mph for operational speed:\n\nhttp://www.railway-technology.com/features/feature-the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-europe/",
"My husband will take Amtrak from Atlanta to NYC and it takes him around 18 hours. He doesn't like planes so is either the train or a road trip in the car. I've never ridden a train before I met him so I went one time to visit the inlaws and I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought it would. And I'm a tiny person too and he's 6ft tall. So you'd think I'd be plenty comfortable. I dunno. I'm sure other ppl like taking the Amtrak. Sadly not for me.",
"I take exception to that good sir. ",
"The Acela is also faster, I believe",
"This looks like the road to becoming the fat people in Wall-E",
"DAAAAMMMMMNNNN!!!!!",
"I've been on that train during the winter. It was magnificent!",
"As a conductor I can assure you you will never see trains traveling at 250mph on trackage in the United States. Not even in the next 100 years. The railroad in the US is an entirely different world. I suggest you do some research.",
"I agree it's not easy by any means but one of the reasons it has been a boondoggle in California is because nobody could ever agree on any of the damn proposals and in the beginning there were a couple of great ones that seemed to solve most of the problems that they have now. \n\nI don't know if it was NIMBYism (\"high speed rail sounds fantastic, just don't run it through *my* city/town!\") or something else that kept, pardon the pun, railroading their plans. \n\nNow, as you say, it is a milti-billion dollar distaster that might not ever see the light of day and it's a shame, really. I was solidly in the supporter camp of California HSR.\n\nI hope it happens one day but it might have to involve nuking all current plans completely and starting over down the road with a new group of people.\n\nOr maybe Elon will build the damn hyperloops along the 101, 5, and 405.",
"... by train, by raft, or maybe by foot. I've certainly been hiked into a few places while fishing and have seen these trains go by on occasion for many years. \n\nI'm sure some of you riders have seen my bare ass. Hope you enjoyed it.",
"I used to travel that route often for work and my company splurged for the business class ticket. It's basically the same amenities, but a different clientele. You don't end up sitting by the family with 8 kids or the guy watching movies with his laptop speakers on.",
"Yes",
">we are free to bring aboard ice chests filled with beer and food for the trip. I shit you not.\n\n*Seeing is believing*.",
"I think it's only available if you choose the Texas Flyer train, not the Lincoln trains, on that route.",
"Yeah, and corridor routes (Pacific Surfliner, San Joaquins, Cascades, etc) also can offer a great deal in terms of pricing, especially compared to taking the bus (a lot more comfortable) or planes (can be more expensive in comparison). Of course, at that point they are borderline commuter rail lines, but still longer :)",
"Sitting facing any direction other than the direction of travel makes me feel nauseous as shit.",
"Not the country you're asking about, but I got across Canada (Montreal to bc, so no the whole country) by train for 65 on sale five years ago. I was 18 though, so they only served me every other province",
"Why would you upgrade a 3 hour flight?\n\nComfort and preference. ",
"Made some of my closest friends while chilling in observation car",
"You should be a train travel promoter. You just sold me on trains. \n\nI’ll buy fifty. ",
"I rode the amtrak multiple times but thanksgiving was the worst time to boatd as there were prob double digit people standing in the aisles in each car. I don’t understand how they can get away with that but I just wanted to go home. The amtrak was from san diego to la",
"Those cross country runs have been losing money for years.\n.Am track management would like to kill them.But every congressional district they run through is a potential no vote foe Amtrak funding.",
"I take the train annually from Philadelphia to Vermont, and back. The worst leg of the trip is no doubt going through New York in the evening, because of all the business people. (I’m assuming). All together it’s not a bad trip if you can manage to have the seat free next to you. Otherwise it’s a bit claustrophobic in my opinion.\n\nThe key is to purchasing a ticket a month ahead of time, because prices can & will double if not triple.",
"Going sideways?! Oh no no no no no ",
"[But he doesn't know the territory.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ9U4Cbb4wg)",
"I split most of my time between Portland and North Dakota so have ridden the Empire Builder a few times. Each ride has been one of the more beautiful, introspective events of my life. Going through Glacier NP in the viewing car is a fuggin mindblower.\n\nOh yeah last time I rode this mentally ill drunk dude that looked like Wesley Willis got on board in western ND without a ticket. He sat a couple rows behind me and kept saying stuff about killing people. He also had some funny lines about how bad Greyhound sucks. He eventually pissed himself big time and was arrested at the next stop. Poor train worker had to clean up the mess.",
"In all my years using the railroad, specifically Amtrak, I can't think of one single time where I went \"Awww, it's over.\"\n\nUsually more like \"thank fuck, finally\"",
"Mom, I feel sick. ",
"Kinda reminds me of Blane the Mono Train\n\n... Blane is a pain",
"How did you like it? I've been thinking of taking that train just as a way to see the country but am kinda thrown off by how long it takes. ",
"Just checked plane tickets and I can get them slightly less than that for Portland to DC roundtrip for a tiny fraction of the travel time. Seems pricey for what you get",
"Hmmm for regional? I see your point. Acela though is a huge difference. ",
"And from Sac to SF. And Seattle to Portland :P",
"I went from San diego to sf on the surfliner. It took 12 hours and $100, but damn was it pretty. I sat in the observation car the entire time. ",
"It is not obsolete when it is high speed rail doing >300 km/h like in Japan, Europe or China. A high speed train between LA and SF, doing the trip downtown to downtown in under 3 hours would totally get customers.",
"Stop posting on Reddit, and get back to work, slave.\n- Your boss.",
"Work culture, education system, medical system. All of them trash and yet we somehow landed on the moon with less computing power than a Fitbit.",
"0% of those people have children.",
"Yeah, because they share rails with freight trains, and zigzag through the mountains. So, inherited flaw in route design, and induced flaw with being unable to build their own rails :)",
"Did you get a garbage plate for free?",
"Sounds like you don’t understand Poe’s law and the reason people must use a specific tone to indicate sarcasm in speech",
"Fuck Amtrak",
"The real lpt is always in the comments.",
"The US is either the richest country in the world, or it is not. Democracy is either the best form of government, or it is not. If the China is able to develop and deploy public infrastructure faster and more effectively than the US because of economic realities, then you're admitting that the US is a second tier country.\n\nYour point about relative coats doesn't matter. *Everything* costs more in the US. We spend way more on military technology, disproportionately more, but we maintain the lead in advanced weaponry, for now. It is simply a matter of priorities. If we prioritized public transportation, universal health care, and universal education, we could *easily* afford to have the best of all those things, in the world. But our priorities are completely retarded.",
"Yee, dude, trains are sick. ",
"You're a pain, Blaine the train.",
">as fast as car... \n\nThat depends on the train. Most semi to normal high speed trains go much faster. Don't understand why it wouldn't be viable between LA-SF and in the Northeast\n\n",
"I took the Southwest Chief from Chicago to LA and I loved every single minute of it.",
"Meh, I took it (am not above 40 years old) to Colorado a few times, and I really enjoy the relaxation it provides opposed to flying...though I usually fly back due to delays related to freight trains before my station >_> *glares at Amtrak not being funded enough to construct their own rails*",
"Amtrak also sells passes. They're not unlimited, but they are enough to see the whole USA if you have the time.",
"Why does congress need to invest in it? If there's so much demand and money to be made, why doesn't someone just do it as a business? ",
"I’m not sure if this is correct, but I was under the impression that throughout much of the United States AmTrak runs on rails owned by railroad companies (i.e. Union Pacific), so AmTrak trains oftentimes have to let freight trains pass.",
"Sounds like a lot of \n\n*HOOPLA*",
"I agree with you. Whenever I travel somewhere, my first thought is to drive. I just enjoy it more. ",
"I think I’m gonna start using the train 😳",
"I feel like doing it to the west coast is worth it. Everything between DC to NYC pales in comparison.",
"Blaine the Train",
"Amtrak is a great way to travel. I took the [Empire Builder from Chicago to Seattle](http://cestlavibe.com/across-america-by-amtrak-train/) and was genuinely impressed with the stunning scenery for most of the voyage. The Viewing Car with a guide pointing out things was something that I wasn't expecting.",
"That would be so cool to have the comfort of your own car in a different city without adding the miles of driving there. I'd pay much more than a plane ticket for that luxury. ",
"Sounds about right...",
"I'd go for a train I park my car on and have it take me from Denver to Oakland at 200 mph.",
"It actually is prohibitively expensive to maintain rail lines. And yes the infrastructure is still being used my freight trains because those freight companies own the infrastructure. Amtrak owns about .01% of all the trackage in the US. Source: am a conductor.",
">It would be awesome to get more funding for a better national rail system in the US. \n>even if it's not efficient for a country as big as ours.\n\nChina also has such a rail system, and realistically in denser areas like the Northeast it also isn't a viable excuse. Purely political choice, not geographic/demographic/economic.\n\n",
"I did the Chicago-L.A route, traffic extender our trip for about 7 hours.",
"> The US is either the richest country in the world, or it is not. Democracy is either the best form of government, or it is not. If the China is able to develop and deploy public infrastructure faster and more effectively than the US because of economic realities, then you're admitting that the US is a second tier country.\n> \n> \n\nRather live in US without high speed rail than with it in China homie.",
"Until you get murderd one night and everyone in the wagon is considered a suspect.",
"Plus there’s that rhythm of a train that is oddly body-satisfying. ",
"ofc it's only old people",
"I mean, yeah. That's pretty much how we do it on the train.",
"Convinced. Seattle to Atlanta, here I come",
"Did you take the Acela or did you book business class on the regional? Business class on the regional (which has coach and business) is definitely not worth it. But the Acela only has business and first, it doesn't have coach. ",
"Ehhh....I did Philadelphia to Chicago and back via Amtrak a few years back. I'm glad I did it...but I'll never do that again......20 hours each way, no sleeper car....fall asleep....wake up...\"Jesus Christ....I'm *still* in Ohio?!\"",
"I went from Pitt to Seattle the summer of '15 and the ticket was $252 (one way). It was a fun ride.",
"The Wi-Fi is better? Seriously? ",
"Thank you for being basically the only one calling out this dumb comment. \"It would be nice if our country that's already $20 trillion in debt wasted money on this because I sure think it's neat-o!\"\n\n\"It sure would be great if the government spent hundreds of millions each year to make sure each citizen had unlimited access to bubble gum. Sure, it has no nutritional value and is bad for your teeth, but boy oh boy, I sure do enjoy bubble gum!\"\n\nIs our country really this infantile that a comment like this is so popular? Maybe I'm reading too much into it...",
"Holy shit, that’s the first time I’ve seen that. I never knew what the whole ‘territory’ thing was from, or why people said “whaddaya talk whaddaya talk”. Such cool patter",
"I love this! I’d love to go on it. ",
"It's prohibitively expensive for freight companies to maintain their own infrastructure?",
"Now I’m going to have that song in my head all day. I’m not sad about it. ",
"Wow what route do you do that's 200 miles and 30 bucks? I usually am on the NE Corridor and Cali and they're about 5 times that much over similar distances!",
"Not to mention, the food was included in the room ticket! So if you don't need the meals or room, the price is still ~150 on average :) though it is slow, so if you have time it can be a great experience! ",
"They theoretically care if you're drinking alcohol that's not from the dining car. ",
"seems like you're thinking of pretty specific places. which places?\n\ni've never been overcome by a need to stop at a random place, and don't have anyone to alternate with. i generally have a destination, and those places along the way tend to be tourist traps.",
"I've taken the rail line between Reno and the Bay Area a few times. That's a fantastic ride in the viewing car.\n\nRecently I took the train between Chicago and Ann Arbor. It was ok, but nothing spectacular. If I factor in getting to and from the airport at either end (to say nothing of the security) it was cheaper than flying. I wasn't in a hurry, so having it take longer was fine.",
"Might've been a slower cargo train up front. ",
"yay overburdening regulations!!",
"Is it possible to do Hop on/off? So one ticket to get you across but you can stop and see the towns/cities along the way? Kind of replacing a road trip. ",
"And drinking your milkshake. Dafuq, old man!? ",
"Trainover Country",
"you ever fly before 9/11? thats basically how it was",
"Not always. Sometimes it’s cheaper than a plane ticket. ",
"Amtrak's website is so awful. It probably just gave you the cheapest option (which is usually train/bus combo). \n\nPlus, trains don't stop in San Francisco proper. You have to lookup Oakland or San Jose Diridion or something. So if you look up the route from LAX to SF then it'll always give you a bus route. ",
"Yeah, the Coast Starlight is the one :) and if you wanted to go to SF proper you'd either connect with CalTrain or BART or the Amtrak bus (which is pretty cheap/almost nothing for the connection) to get there. And bus connections are a lot because Amtrak runs on freight rails, and the Tehachapi Pass (sp?) is so congested Amtrak isn't allowed to use it between LA and Bakersfield. So the San Joaquins (Bakersfield to Oakland/Sac) remains a simple corridor service, until California HSR is built 100% :)",
"i'll just come out and say it. Wage slavery. \n\nThe system is designed to trap us. ",
"There are many things that factor into moving trains. One large factor is the service agreements reached by both companies while operating on each other’s track. Another factor is the fixed topology of the track and the variable movement of other trains. The person in charge of moving those trains is first and foremost responsible for the safe movement of all trains their. They need to make decisions based on the size of train, size of areas to place trains (sidings and other track), speed of the trains, priority of the trains, and the safe movement of all of the trains. \n\nFor example, they may need to move a passenger train off to a siding while a larger train passes them on the mainline. This isn’t to preference one train over the other but rather there is no way to move the trains around each other. This is just to move them off a collision course. A lot of “hurry up and wait” can also happen with passenger trains while they traverse certain areas of track and then need to wait for slower freight to get out of the way. \n\nI haven’t heard of scenarios where a passenger was thrown off to the sideline to allow a freight to pass them from behind.\n\nAlso, priority seems to be ambiguously defined with people outside railroading. It appears to imply that everything in your path gets out of your way entirely and no waiting should occur. If there is a section of single track you will wait to move through even if you are high priority. If you think riding Amtrak is bad, try riding in the cab of some lower priority freight. It won’t take you longer because of your lower velocity but rather your priority. There are trains that sit for many hours waiting for an opportunity to get on a piece of track. There are places I can hop in my car and drive track speed (let’s say 50mph) and go down winding roads to reach my destination in a couple hours and I can have a friend on a freight train take 5 hours to go from the same start to finish.\n",
"This train looks like the one from the dark tower series!",
"2h on plane, and security, and bags so... basically not that much shorter than the train",
"What route is that? To Alasaka?",
"Here in Washington state, They fly off the track at 80mph. At least the view would by nice.",
"\"only\"",
"To be fair, some of those were related to cars crossing onto the tracks, but yeah, the point still stands. Still statistically safer than driving, but that doesn't mean we should be lax about it! :)",
"Huh, noted",
"My family once got a room for a trip from Oregon to Iowa, formed a wanderlust spirit in me very early on. I loved the sense of being lost and seeing things that were away from the road.\n\nIt's a shame it hasn't evolved to be a better option for transportation. Enjoy it while it's here because once fully autonomous cars hit, the few remaining justifications you might have for travelling this way all but vanish.",
"This is true. And why I usually fly.",
">basically not that much shorter than the train\n\nOnly in rare instances is the train faster or even close.\n\nSEA-PDX - Train is faster.\nBOS-WASH- Train only faster if not going end to end.\n\nMost every other travel route in the US? Plane is faster and it's not even close.",
"There’s one route through Oregon that goes through the mountains by the ocean in the middle of the night, can’t remember the name of it. Anyways it’s beautiful if you plan it with the weather. It’s a standard travel route but well worth the money if you want to use it as a sightseeing opportunity. Best money spent on a train 10/10 would bang again and that’s coming from someone who worked on trains 😆 ",
"Why? [When all he has to do is buy the farm next to it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5d9BrLN5K4)",
"In Aus everything tries to kill you and fuck the box jellyfish so fuck those beaches. Oregon wildlife isn't trying to murder you.",
"So long as you've not a kidnapper you should be okay.",
"I've rode Amtrak 3 times in the last 6 years (Osceola IA to Denver CO) and it's seriously the best way to travel, I love the observation car. ",
"Positive Train Control, something that many freight railroads (which most Amtrak trains run on) don't want to bother installing, sadly. The incident in Washington State was on regional transit district's management, though, so little excuse there besides perhaps not having the funding :/",
"Next thing you’re gonna tell me is this rock I bought hasn’t been keeping away all the tigers. ",
"But consider that you 6 days worth of service compared to 12 hours on a plane. wont deny that planes are way more effecient but if you taking a train cross country your not trying to get some where in a timely manner. Rather nice going through the Rockies by train rather then flying over. And you get a real sense for how flat this country is in the middle... seriously sometimes you have to wonder whether its a cloud off in the distance or a mountain.",
"Probably DC to Florida on the autotrain",
"To be fair my only experience is the Cook County Jail, which is probably the worst in the US",
"Hmmm. I’m in northwest Indiana and the Chicago Amtrak leaves from just a few blocks from me and is only like thirty dollars. It’s great because the Amtrak will take you right downtown, no rental car needed if you just want to eat/shop/sightsee for a day. We are planning to go to Utah this summer to drink in some scenery and decompress. I wonder if this train experience happens from Chicago to Utah? ",
"Nope! The Auto Train from DC to Orlando. \n\nhttps://www.amtrak.com/auto-train",
"westworld.",
"Makes sense",
"There’s also a AAA discount. ",
"Really? Having been to both myself, nothing in the world triggers my PTSD from being thrown in county jail worse than going through airport insecurity. ",
"Are you underestimating how valuable those Right-of-Ways are? Anschutz made a killing on those.",
"It’s on my list of “trains I want to enjoy.” ",
"Other than the northeast, not many parts of the US are that well suited for high speed rail. And the northeast just doesn't have the will to do big things nowadays. They're like an old man who started an ambitious DIY project 20 years ago, slapped on a temporary finish halfway through, and will never bother to go back and complete it right. \n\nCalifornia, on the other hand, is like a newly minted yuppie who wants to prove himself. They will eagerly bankrupt the state to build a flashy high speed rail system that hardly anybody will ever use.",
"Damn, I use to hop freight trains, that was free. ",
"Get on the California Zypher and just ride it round trip. ",
"When you take a train you're often in far more secluded places than the average car can take you. Couple that with watching the country's great landscapes change in real time. Seems pretty neat to me. Though, I will admit Nebraska looks a lot like how Illinois resembles large swathes of Iowa.. - the Mississippi is pretty cool and there's a foothill here and there, but things don't take shape until you hit western Nebraska-ish.",
"Yeah, sadly sleepers are quite expensive. Coach seats can be comparable to flights when it's on a single line or perhaps one connection, though. And the timing is due to Amtrak running on freight lines, which aren't to standards for > 79mph speeds, are curvy thus cannot reach that speed anyway, and Amtrak isn't funded enough to invest in infrastructure :(",
"**\"HEY EVERYONE, THAT GUY OVER THERE IS TAKING A WEE WEE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD\"**",
"We're doing Chicago to San Francisco in a couple of months as part of our honeymoon and are making a coupe of stops along the way. You have to buy a ticket for each individual leg of the journey if you want to spend time in places along the route. Bit of a pain in the arseto book but I don't think the cost of all the tickets separately or one non-stop ticket is any different. ",
"If you can do your job remotely, you can work from the train.",
"All I see is Westworld ",
"For some reason it cracks me up picturing a bunch of German going through their usual train sleeping routine while one person just stands by laughing their head off all night.",
"3 people were just killed in a train derailment, and you think the problem is that there's *too much* regulation? And that reducing subsidies will make thinks *cheaper*? \n \nInteresting.",
"Man, I paid around $100 for Ft. Edward (~1 hour past Albany) to Penn Station. 2015-ish",
"Outside of the major corridors on the east coast, Amtrak isn't a profitable business. The long cross country routes are subsidized by the government in order to provide *some* form of passenger transport to a large number of small towns in the upper plains states and desert southwest. Especially on the northern route between Chicago and Seattle, commercial airports with scheduled service can be hundreds of miles away and bus service non-existent. Unless you can afford to drive hours to a regional airport and then pay feeder airline rates to get you to an airline hub, the only way to get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time is to take Amtrak or drive. \n\nIf it wasn't for the government subsidies, Amtrak would have shut those routes down a long time ago as they're expensive to run and don't pay for themselves. The high fees Amtrak does charge normal travelers on those routes (ie people not from communities dependent on the train) are strategic. They know they can't compete with the airlines directly for a lot of reasons and will never have enough ridership to be profitable, so they charge a higher per-seat fee to people who are willing to ride the train for the slower pace and scenery. It's essentially the same concept as scenic railroads (the tourist train through the Canadian Rockies starts at about $1k), you're paying for the experience not just for transportation from point A to point B.",
"I crossed the country for free on trains, wanna guess how ? \n\nhttps://imgur.com/a/G6Wur",
"What is more insult to injury, sub-400/500 mile travels are perfect for HSR lines...so combine HSR and good public transit and you got a viable alternative :/ ",
"Hey, thanks for the NINE YEAR OLD DETAILS.",
"In Russia you have to go through a security check (bag X-ray and metal detector) to enter the station and then also a second check to board some of the trains.",
"Amtrak actually has a regular student discount now. You no longer need to purchase the Student Advantage card.",
"At least on the Northeast Regional, I don't think they go crazy trying to spot it but that they'll do something if you're blatant about it. ",
"This should be on top of America's new southern border wall",
"I came here looking for your comment! We are in Northeast Indiana and the Chicago Amtrak is just a few blocks from me. I was wondering if there was a Utah train because we’d like to decompress and take a scenic Utah vacation. So how long was the train from Michigan? Btw, Michigan is America’s best kept vacation secret. Man it’s beautiful. I’m shocked the whole country doesn’t visit Michigan every summer. ",
"This is a deep cut comment I made a few years ago about my NYC to LA Amtrak trip. If you can afford it, I think the sleeper car is awesome cross-country. Note that the prices are not adjusted for inflation/current pricing:\n\n“In 2007 I took amtrak from New York to Chicago (the Lakeshore Limited) and then from Chicago to Los Angeles (the Southwest Chief). For the first 20 hour leg from NY to Chicago I was in the normal seating area, and it was not very fun. Once it got dark (most of the trip was over night) it was a bit hard to sleep in the seat and the guy next to me kept snoring, so there wasn't really any scenery and I was uncomfortable.\n\nWhen we got to Chicago, I had a lay over of about five hours, and since the train station is centrally located, I had time to explore the city a bit which was great.\n\nFor the second leg of my trip, I had a sleeper car, and I honestly think it was the most pleasant travel experience that I ever had. The trip is about 40 hours or so, and the privacy of having the sleeper to yourself with your own little table, giant window, and bed was awesome. If I recall correctly, all your meals in the dining car are free if you get a sleeper, so, unless you're buying drinks in the bar car, you have fixed expenses. I elected to bring my own bottle of scotch, so I had that department covered.\n\nThe first evening of the trip was through the plains, which was a bit boring as expected, but also very calming. Having a good book, a glass of scotch, and watching the prairie pass by was quite pleasant. The second day was through the New Mexico and Arizona desert, and it was stunningly beautiful.\n\nChecking my old email, it looks like I paid about $890 for the trip, but nearly $600 of that was for the sleeper car on the second leg. Looking at current pricing this trip would cost $780, with the upgrade to a sleeper being at about the same ratio. At the time, I was moving from NY to the west coast, and a big reason I chose the train included the cost of flying+shipping all my stuff. I had like 3 suitcases and probably about a dozen boxes, and Amtrak didn't charge me a dime for all my stuff. So I put those savings towards the sleeper. Still probably paid a bit more than just shipping my stuff but the experience was on balance more than worth it.\n\nPlus, there are other little perks like having goodbye drinks with a bunch of my friends at the bar in Penn Station until they call all aboard vs. battling your way out to the airport and going through TSA hell for several hours.\n\nSo, if you're going for just a vacation, probably a bit pricey; but if you're moving without a car, awesome. Also, if you're traveling with someone else, it looks like the second person only has to buy their rail fare, but the price of the sleeper is the same.\n\nAlso recommended: the Coast Starlight from LA to SF. Trip is about 10 hours but is very laid back with hours of beautiful scenery along the coast and through the mountains.”",
"On the east coast it's basically a minor upgrade from an airline seat. But on other routes, it's a lot more spacious.",
"$45 from BWI to Union Station, DC. That was more than $1/minute.",
"You mean, how it was before 9/11? Screening was there, but it was minimal. If you weren't flying you could still accompany people to the gate to see them off. You could get to the airport 30 minutes before your flight and still make the flight, unlike the situation now.",
"bish you bout catch me on trains from now on",
"Nice! Looks like it gets you an extra 5% off too (comparatively). ",
"Because the free market is a fucking lie. The dollar amounts involved are beyond the scope of any company and that's before you start taking into account how many legal battles you'll have over whatever land needs to be bought.",
"I think it’s weird people are complaining so much about the cost. It doesn’t seem that expensive considering what you are getting. ",
"I wish we'd spend less time buying satellites from northrop grumman and more time investing in our rail infrastructure. From ATL to San Diego it costs $700+ and 72 hours.",
"Chill, Nasty Nate!!",
"I have never been in a train. Near me there's an opportunity to ride in a historic 1800's train engine and I'm considering it for a weekend trip. Might not be able to ride, but you can drive one of the bigger, newer types for like 45 min or so. Even has a Thomas the tank for kids there.",
"Boy, where have I heard that argument before... \n\n*taps the SpaceX sign*\n\nNot to mention private toll roads.",
"Ugh, well that's not a pain in the arse at all!\n\nI guess the Starlight is a no-go for me unless I need to go up to Portland or Seattle sometime. That train sounds amazing from the description of the cars though, I'd love to take it somewhere eventually.\n\nThe train I frequent is the LA--San Diego Surfliner and I love it. It's also not much slower than driving down the 5 and if you factor in the inevitable traffic jams, it's probably even faster occasionally!",
"Isint that a train?",
"That map is pretty great. I wish with this trip they would allow you an hour or two in some of the towns. ",
"Amtrak has sleepers. They're expensive. But you do have privacy, a nice place to sleep, and sleeper fares include meals from the dining car, which are very good.",
"Random diners and local stores, mainly. Maybe you’ll run across an out of the way book store or thrift shop and find something cool, or a great restaurant. Maybe you won’t find anything, but it’s more fun than just watching it pass by without the option to check it out.",
"Reminds me of Westworld",
"Wall-e",
"I love that railways in the US have not descended into the assholey-ness of their airports... its a surprisingly relaxing way to travel",
"Yes. Much better bandwidth, same latency.\n\nCurious about your outrage here; his use of 'wifi' to reference internet perfornance?",
"What if you get motion sickness?",
"Not in any place I’ve ever tried to go. Some routes are heavily subsidized though. ",
"The intercom announces to passengers, \"this beautiful fertile prairieland used to belong to people like you, until the banks came along\"",
"Nope, it was the same train, just in the business section ",
"That'll be $99,999,999.99, please. ",
">I decided to treat myself",
"I'd have to do it once for each season!",
"We did. \n\nSource: engineer on trains",
"Too bad none of us are speaking.",
"Are you being sarcastic? Four transfers? That's horrible",
"Trespassing ",
"I've taken the Northeast Regional a lot and am just surprised that the Wi-Fi equipment on the Acela is actually better. ",
"This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. Yeah, the US is a more \"free\" country than China. But that's about the only thing we got going for us now. China is kicking our ass in *so many ways* (and catching up in most others), but too many Americans are content to make excuses for why our infrastructure sucks because \"at least we're free\". This completely ignores the fact that we could still be America the great, and America the beautiful, *and have a high-speed rail system better than China's* (among many other concerns), if we set our mind to it. Again, it's not an issue of capabilities, it's an issue of backwards priorities.\n\nAnd if China's faults are a hangup for you, you could also compare our public infrastructure to Europe, which is overall just as \"nice\" and \"free\" of a place to live as the US, and which has far better public transportation. Sure, the situation is not exactly the same, but if you compare Europe's overall size, overall population, and overall GDP, they are comparable. It at at least speaks to the wasted potential in the US for public infrastructure and social policy projects. And the fact that Europe is a collection of semi-sovereign governments doesn't matter. The US is also a collection of semi-sovereign states, but what it boils down to is a certain amount of money per citizen, and a certain amount of money per square mile, and how is the government choosing to invest that money for the public good.",
"Op might not be outraged. Or just having 'better WiFi and wider seats' not justifying the higher price/not enough to differentiate it from coach",
"I went in late May. For my money there's no more beautiful time of year for that region. ",
"We travelled from Chicago to Flagstaff on one of these, it was part of a family holiday trip across the US and that one was full. We had to make reservations for all meals, \nReally enjoyed the trip though and will look to try another line the next time we visit the US.",
"Cheaper than $400 you mean?\n\nI drove from Los Angeles to Philadelphia, solo, a couple of summers ago. I took my sweet-ass time in order to sight see. Took 12 days.\n\nLodging cost over $800. I averaged a little less than $70 per night. There was no way I was going to sleep in my car, and motels that charge less than $70 a night are skeevy as shit.\n\nGas cost a total of $277.\n\nTolls alone were almost $50. From California through Wisconsin, it was clear sailing with wide-open roads and not a toll booth in sight. But once you hit the Chicago area, it's nothing but bad traffic and tolls all the way to Philly.\n\nI spent over $1,000 to get from the west coast to east coast, and that doesn't even factor in food costs (which I didn't track). $400 to relax and ride a train cross-country is a really good deal, by comparison.",
"My internet perforns well thx ",
"You take Amtrak, and three days later it's \"Awwww, it's over.\"\n\n\nNo one says this. No one who takes the amtrak regularly believes you.\n\nHave you ever taken an amtrak? No one spends an hour on amtrak much less 3 days and misses it. Seems like you are falling into the reddit hivemind of a handful of people saying they \"enjoyed\" their overpriced day long trip.\n\nIn reality, outside of reddit, Amtrak is ancient technology and its not fun.",
"There's no internet access for most of the trip.",
"The low amount of people(and only older ones at that) there tells me this is quite expensive.",
"I took Amtrak from Indy to Chicago once. 14 hours. Were you on the train for a year?",
"For me to go from Charlotte to Orlando, it was going to be far more expensive than a plane trip and took well over twice as long. Yes, the train may at some points get up to a decent speed but it’s not constant\n\n7:22 by car, 15:39 by train, according to Google maps. Check it yourself. \n\nUnless you are in the Acela corridor it’s probably not a good choice. ",
"Didn't use the Wi-Fi. The space wasn't worth it, but to each their own. They absolutely hid the fact that there was access to food/drink. That being my first real train ride, I had no idea that there was a food/drink section. They literally said nothing until they announced that they were closing it because we were close to our destination.\n\nJust saying, I definitely don't think it was worth even $20 more",
"that leg space tho",
"I don't doubt it! It sounds positively breathe taking!",
"I would bring edibles and snacks, some light reading and my gameboy color with Pokemon red, for when I've had enough of all that nature jazz.",
"Ah yes, so slow going 90 across the Midwest ",
"It looks more comfortable then my bed I sleep in I could only imagine the cost to ride in it? :)",
"In Idaho?",
"lmao. FYI America has more miles of railroad than any other country on earth, it's just more productive to use it for freight than passengers. The free market works just fine for air travel, auto manufacturing, and even toll roads.",
"Not sure what Acela is, I took Amtrak",
"Took a train from Germany to Sweden. Regular commuter train, no bullet train. 130mph and very very smooth. Took a train in California. It was called a 'baby bullet train'. Top speed was 79mph, and the ride was bumpy and uneven.",
"The rockies would be interesting but you're going to have seemingly endless crop fields until you want to shoot yourself after that. Days of no variety at all.",
"Wall-e?",
"Yeah it's pretty obnoxious. But I believe the Emeryville station is just across the bridge from San Francisco, so it wouldn't be very difficult to get into the city from there. \n\nAnd I've take. The Pacific Surfliner many times as well, all the way up to Santa Barbara. Usually takes longer than driving, but much much more relaxing. I think OPs picture is of the Southwest Chief, which runs from LA to Chicago. It's a really nice route, I'd definitely recommend it. ",
"I took Amtrak from San Jose to Winslow Arizona once and to Seattle three times. I've loved it every time.",
"I live on the west coast. Where would you take a train? The only long distance train from LA that I can think of is to San Diego. I'm sure that the PNW has a better system though ",
"For me to go from Charlotte to Orlando, it was going to be far more expensive than a plane trip and took well over twice as long. Yes, the train may at some points get up to a decent speed but it’s not constant\n\n7:22 by car, 15:39 by train, according to Google maps. Check it yourself. \n\nUnless you are in the Acela corridor it’s probably not a good choice. \n\n\n",
"I got car sick just looking at this pic. ",
"Indianapolis to Chicago took me 14. ",
"Not sure what Acela is, I took Amtrak",
"doesn't know the territory?!?!",
"We end up flying last minute all the time. Sometimes last minute, poor planner flights are spendy AF. \nThe train to Chicago from most of Indiana is only about 30 bucks. So it’s all relative. If you are in a place with a direct Amtrak location with no jumping hub to hub, it’s relatively inexpensive. Now if you want to cross ten states and zig zag, it’s going to cost you. ",
"I love the train. I can bar hop around Chico all night and get picked up around 2:00 AM. Then drink more the train. Pass out on the floor of the lounge car, if needed. Wake up see countrysides small towns. Sleep more if your hung over. Drink more of your hung over. Meet people there, and pass the time. Remember you need a lot of extra time to ride the train, but it is awesome. ",
"How much did it cost?",
"That's because there's actual business in those cities.",
"That's pretty much all I can think of when someone mentions Amtrak now.",
"Met my husband in the observation car of an Amtrak train going from Seattle to Chicago four years ago. Best train trip I ever took. ",
"“Welcome to West World...”",
"This literally made my night. Thank you!",
"Only on the Acela (premium express train).\n\nOn any other train, it's sometimes quieter. Often times, it's more packed. I'll book business when traveling for business, then walk the train. I move about half the time to a better coach seat.\n\nI don't travel at peak though. I don't think I've ever had someone sitting beside me, at least not after moving to coach. I've seen business class packed with completely empty coach coaches, heh. ",
"I can fly from Philadelphia to Miami for 30 dollars. The rail system would need major overhauls just to compete ",
"Yes, the joy of life are sometime hidden behind laws. I mean, obviously, Im not rooting for murdering people haha. But trespassing is not something I have a problem with. ",
"Would be more efficient if you had Highspeed tracks like France and Germany have. Trains going 300kmh+ ",
"Daily driver, it was 40-100Mb/s vs 3-5 Mb/s as of last month.\n\nIt matters to me so I check it",
"Ughhh, that was always my dream.\n\nI blame it hundreds of hours I listened to Mischief Brew, but either way it always seemed so amazing to hop freight.\n\nI'm probably getting too old for it these days, and I'm not in America anymore, either, but it just seems so amazing to me. Maybe one day, but almost certainly not. Any more pictures?\n\nI [live in a van in Australia now,](https://i.imgur.com/V72FPfO.jpg) so that's pretty neat, but I still envy you. ",
"I wish that video becomes a new viral meme, it's so good.",
"Safer as well.",
"its slightly more comfortable than the backseat of a car, assuming no one is next to you. if someone is next to you, its slightly better than first class air fare. ",
"When I was in high school we did Boston to Needles, CA (followed by a bus to Vegas). Boston to Chicago we were in coach and that was a long ride. Then we had sleeper cars which were awesome! The Porters were very nice and knew all the passengers in their cars and where we were. I don't recall prices since my parents paid for it. Just remember being 14 and being in a sleeper car with my BFF and my parents were in one in another section of the train. ",
"I dont understand why everyone thinks its so expensive. My mom frequently rides the Southwest Chief from Los Angeles (Actually Riverside/SB) to Lamy, Santa Fe, New Mexico frequently and says it only costs her $75 for a ticket. Hell, even when I have used the train I dont remember spending more than $100. Far cheaper than driving (My preffered method of visiting family in NM). \n\nPerhaps its just that route that is cheaper? ",
"or people picky about personal space? Unless you’ve figured out a way to lose enough weight to just become void space",
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"I take it too but too say that this is the common opinion of people who take it is straight up misleading. ",
"I just looked up a ticked from DC to LA, for shits and giggles. Before I looked into the details, I was seriously considering making the trip maybe later on this year for the experience of it. \n\n* It's around $250 for a business class seat. More leg space, charging point, free wifi, non alcoholic beverages, that's good.\n\n* Business class is cheaper that regular coach for some reason. Coach was around $300 I think (Flex was around $450).\n\n* **IT TAKES 3 FUCKING DAYS!!** First, it's a 24 hour ride to Indianapolis, then a 5 hour wait, then a 50 hour ride.\n\n* To get a bunk, it's an astronomical amount (considering it takes 3 days). When I checked, it was about $1600 (not willing to pay that, especially when I can fly on this route for absolutely free + it takes 3 days).\n\nI understand ours is a big country, and the 3 day time is completely justifiable, but sitting on a chair for 3 days just feels unbearable. I flew from New Delhi to Newark once (about 16 hours), and it starts slowing killing you after the first 8 (you can only sleep so much to pass the time).",
"/r/accidentalwesanderson",
"Same in the UK unfortunatly. We botched the nationalisation and then the privatisation that we are left in a state where it costs far more to get a train across the country than a plane. If you book well in advance you can get a deal though. \n\nIt's the opposite in parts of Europe, you get go on some stunning rail journeys for not too much money. ",
"$625 for the room and two tickets. ",
"Can the seat turn? I dont want to face the sun the whole morning/afternoon.",
"Stopped at every little town? Uh, duh. Check out the schedule. ",
"Wouldn't it be efficient to have a magnetic train? There are some that travel around \n500km/h with would take US east to west about 16 hours. And all that on electricity. ",
"Absolutely. Would love a fast train that ran from New York to LA ",
"Yes after Chicago on way to Montana just gorgeous country ",
"Price and duration wise, this doesn’t make much sense because you can fly for the same price. But I suppose for someone wanting the experience and views across country, it would be worth it. ",
"Possibly your life. Traveling by train is almost as dangerous as driving a car. Our rail system is outrageously outdated and under regulated.\n\nI live in Portland and have taken the train to to Seattle a few times. It was actually fun, got drunk, talked to people, barely paid anything. I was super excited to hear that Amtrak was opening a new line that would cut out waits for freight trains (can be around an hour) and it derailed on THE FIRST RUN. Killed 3 and injured a bunch more. Its the BOLT bus for me for now on.\n\nMy friends took a train from Michigan to Oregon, and one of the trains broke down going through the Rockies. The were stuck for hours in December, with no heat. Trains could be neat, but the USA seriously needs to work on getting them up to snuff.\n\nIts been posted below that the Philly to Idaho route would cost about $400. [Flying that same route in 8 hours costs about the same](https://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-flights:research=PHLBOI-BOIPHL;out=2018-02-03;stay=14)",
"I was in Canada. Never hopped in the U.S. \n\nYeah, I got tons of picture from my time when I was homeless, but of me riding the rail, only a few. \n\nSaskatchewan : https://imgur.com/a/o8amV \nQuebec : https://imgur.com/a/fE1z4 ( keep in mind, the Nazi book is not a Nazi book, its a documentary book about the Nazi's ) \nDogs on a train : https://imgur.com/a/O761b ( mine is the one on the right, his mother and aunt are on another cart, they were 3 weeks old at that point, I still have my dog, he his 10 yrs old now ) \n\nRiding suicide : https://imgur.com/a/6GUdl This is what we call a suicide cart, I think you can guess why. We would do these only when absolutely necessary. ",
"How the hell did this person come to the conclusion that dumping more money into this frivolous and inefficient mode of travel is \"good for the people\"? Because a bunch of people on this site think this picture is neat-o? I wonder if they'd feel the same about government funded helicopter tours...Sorry, I guess I must simply be a shill for that damned \"upper class government.\"\n\nBefore anyone chimes in, I'm very anti-government waste in all forms, whether it be corn subsidies, wars on drugs, our absurd \"defense\" budget, etc etc. I wish more people would step back and think about things before reacting emotionally.",
"I do NYC <--> BOS frequently and refuse to take the train. Set up in an airport lounge, do your work there, get on the plane and have some downtime. Much better. ",
"I love Amtrak. In aggregate it’s the same amount of time as flying minus 99% of the stress.",
"You should get out more. There's a lot of georgous country that Amtrak runs through",
"Gorammit, someone already posted this over there. ",
"But it would mean more cities could matter. It wouldn't just be the coasts and a select few in the middle that have all the big business. When the next big town is just a quick train ride away instead of a three hour commute, it opens up a lot of opportunities. ",
"Eh... not sure how Amtrak designs their onboard network but it depends largely on how they provide backhaul to the train or cars on the train as what they do network wise with that backhaul in mind. I work in providing wireless communications to trains and there are many ways to skin the cat.\n\nIf you are speaking from experience on these trains and the different classes of service, then please ignore me. I assume then the WiFi is the same in all classes of service or the “better WiFi” isn’t arguably any better to justify the price hike for that alone.\n\nTo my knowledge, most passenger service is using cell service to provide the backhaul to their onboard wireless. It then depends on how they are architecting the network onboard. If each car is getting a 4g cell modem or multiple modems, you are spreading that across all users on that car. Perhaps they are spreading that backhaul across multiple cars and then you are increasing users on that same connection out. Either way, you are cramming multiple users over services that are generally worse than when I use my own cell. The only real enhancements will be in the antenna and it’s better placement on the train compared to your personal device.\n\nThe other way is to backhaul your trains using proprietary wireless solutions. There are systems out there that can provide very high throughout wireless to trains but require the railroad to build out a wireless network that is then backhauled through fiber. That can then provide each car with its own connection with some fairly decent theoretical throughput. My understanding is that nobody in the US are using those systems.\n\nPersonally, I just hotspot my phone for trips on most of the transits that offer WiFi. It has always outperformed the trains WiFi. ",
"Barely. By about 30 min. ",
"Amtrak has the Coast Starlight line that runs from LA to Seattle, although you can take shorter trips on it. It’s supposed to have the best views of any train route in the US. It’s on my list of things to do now that I moved to the west coast. ",
"I love the train. It takes a touch longer than going by car, and you have to hire a car to take you to your final destination as well (if you don't have family, etc) but you get great views, no stress, liquor, the internet, and usually semi-decent food from the diner car (think roadside diner, not gourmet). Having a burger and garlic fries with a beer while watching a movie beats the hell out of driving. ",
"i have traveled long-distance on both greyhound and amtrak (i have used 30-day passes on both). greyhound was easily the worst travel experience of my life and while cheaper and *maybe* faster, it was also incredibly uncomfortable, a little shady, and at times seriously unprofessional.\n\n amtrak was pretty darn good. ",
"With a toll road there is a high enough volume of traffic to make the endeavor financially feasible. That is quite flatly not the case for rail travel, especially in densely populated areas.\n\nAlso, I'm not aware of any large-scale toll projects that are entirely privately funded. Every one of them I'm familiar with (I'm in the DFW area. There are many.) was the state paying a private entity to build the road on the condition that the state be reimbursed for the cost.\n\nBut really though, if you're fucking stupid enough to think that space travel is somehow more difficult than negotiating with tens of thousands of individuals, thousands of cities, hundreds of counties, and who knows how many other government agencies then you must not have ever worked on any infrastructure project. Neither are simple but here in the real world SpaceX is about to shoot some dude's car to Mars while train tracks deteriorate.",
"Whoosh",
"That's insanely cheap for two nights' accommodation, even if the second half wasn't a sleeper. ",
"> https://www.amtrak.com/take-the-trains-across-america-with-usa-rail-pass\n\nTwo years ago I did the 30-day pass for $690. It was 100% worth it. Such a cool experience looping around the US.\n\nThe best leg by far was Salt Lake City to Denver. It ran along a river nestled between a canyon for most of the way. Stunning views and a mostly empty car the whole way.",
"So much this. \nI'm in the \"lower\" part of the country so when I do Amtrak, it's mostly on the \"Texas Eagle\" line. \nIf you are in a hurry, you'll have to fly, trains ain't for you. \nBut barring work/funerals/etc commitments... if you plan ahead and add a day or two, book a sleeper room. \nDining Car food is OK, bonus points for how they have to serve it. Folks on the train are pretty cool. \nBar Car is fine (over-priced) but honestly, knowing I had a private sleeper... my carryon backpack had a cutting board, chef's knife (no TSA on trains), 3 cured meats, 4 cheeses and a 5th of good KY bourbon. \nIt was a good trip to San Antonio :)",
"\n>Otherwise the comfort and freedom granted is unparalleled. \n\nI think most train tracks run in pairs actually",
"Wowzer!",
"Not some of the shittiest, it's literally and empirically the shittiest - only issue is Americans have this childish \"we're number 1!\" mentality that keeps them from realizing they're only the ones getting fucked. ",
"I only have a problem with it if you fall off and get chopped up a few hundred times as we roll over you. Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. ",
"Why do you have to wait for so long? Are most rail lines in the US single track or something? Because if so that's incredibly inefficient.",
"I'd much rather spend some extra time on a train rather than be stuck in some Greyhound Walmart tube. ",
"Yes they swivel. ",
"Sometimes.... things that are expensive, are worse...",
"that is a nice van though. Im buying a van this year and we are going to go live in the forest, my wife and I. But to be honest, this is where I will be working all summer long ;) \n\n Iv always wanted to try the van life, I envy you ! its funny how we both envy each other. I dont travel anymore though, that was a long time ago. I now have an apartment for the winter, and work in the forest for the summer, ( 6months in, 6 months out ) ",
"I would take amtrak to and from college and it was minimal 1.5 hours late both ways. I know it's not their fault (blame CSX) but really annoying to the people who gave me rides to the station \n",
"[Comparably, you could fly for ~$400 round trip, get there in 8hours, transfer once, and have a 7x less chance of dying.](https://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-flights:research=PHLBOI-BOIPHL;out=2018-02-03;stay=14)",
"If you think seeing the county when driving is the same as what you see when you are on a train, you are clueless. Let alone the fact that you actually have to drive, spend money on gas, hotel, wear and tear on your car etc.\n\nTraveling long distance by train is an awesome experience that everyone should try at least once in their lives.",
"Matrix flight ita works for flights. ([You can actually find that same route for $390](https://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-flights:research=PHLBOI-BOIPHL;out=2018-02-03;stay=14))",
"On the one hand we build things like this to appreciate the beauty of nature and on the other hand we don't care if we slowly destroy it...\n\nIt saddens me to no end.",
"Holy shit, when did Amtrak get cheap? That's awesome.",
"Gorgeous views to behold as you derail",
"Weird because I work in freight and we have to stop all the time for Amtrak. ",
"Are you an Engineer? That has to be one of the nicest job. I would sometime stay in the driver's cabin and I once tag in the bathroom : French Hobo's are nice Hobo's ( Im French Canadian ) \n\nI also had drivers and Engineer helps us out and give us tips about when the train will be coming and going. So your opinion is subjective. \n\nI understand that you do not want to have on your mind the fact that you rolled over someone, even if its his fault. I personally always took safety precaution as best I could. Anyway that was several years ago. I have a regular life now ( more or less ) ",
"They also paid for the rails you were on. You're welcome. ",
"Plus if you have a sleeper the meals are free. ",
"> Most of the country however it would never be a reasonable option because of sheer size.\n\nI don't think that's the main reason it doesn't work in America, look at China, a huge landmass, that has a much more comprehensive rail system than we do.",
"I’d fucking hope so.",
"It hasnt changed . ",
"It would work on a regional scale. Southern/northern ca, midwest centered on chicago, texas major cities, northeast corridor, etc",
"> NY - Chicago was $84\n\nThat should be about 60€ for ~1200km, i think. Meanwhile in Germany you pay 100€ - 150€ for Munich to Berlin, which is ~500km. And if you're lucky, you even have working WiFi and a power outlet.",
"What’s the fellow’s line?",
"\n\nThere's a lot of things computers cant do very well. Running trains is a pretty big one. Dispatching them is another. ",
"100% of them loving every minute",
"On a 14 hour Amtrak from Seattle to Whitefish, Montana currently and can’t get over how much more pleasant it is than my relatively empty flights to and from Southern California earlier this week. ",
"If they are the size of yours? Millions probably.",
"As someone who is 6’7” the legroom situation here is making me cringe",
"I would vomit. ",
"That’s the accella. It saves you like 20 minutes at the most. It’s totally only worth it when you have an employer paying for it. ",
"/r/slightlyinjuredbywords",
"I like those windows tho... finally roof windows in a train! ",
"I'd prefer train to flying or driving for medium-long distances (anything longer than say 4 hours up to 800-900 miles, a days driving basically) but its as, or more, expensive than either driving or flying.",
"I find it interesting that people down there call it \"the 5\" instead of I-5.",
"Or alternatively, invest in high speed trains that could actually be attractive enough to travelers to be a viable choice...",
"This car is only available on one of the 3 trains each way from Stl to Chi, fyi. Its also available from Chi to KC",
"I had the chance to check this out on a cross country trip, never will i forget the beauty of these lands at times. \nNee Mexico and Arizona are some fucking gorgeous places in this country.",
"Took a train from eastern Nebraska to northwest Colorado to camp for scouts a few years ago, never knew the world could look so beautiful and I could feel so stress free. ",
"Visit Italy and take Frecciarossa ride. Average speed of 297km/h, Rome to Naples in 1 hour, 10 minutes. That train can ride across the entire width of US in about 15 hours.\n\nWith one layover somewhere in the middle, that's a decently comfortable way to travel coast-to-coast.",
"Hill?!",
"It'll never be faster than driving as long as the freight railroads are forced to host Amtrak. ",
"Not only do you have a micro-dick but you're also a homophobe and a moron. Impressive.",
"You're right. Only the Eagle, trains 21 and 22. ",
"> Precheck your dignity \n\n",
"Despite what you hear, this is incorrect. \n\nSource: move over for Amtrak all the live long day. ",
"No I'd 100% say the same shit for Amtrak amplified by 10. That's way too much time wasted for me and I don't really care to sight see.",
"Fuck yourself. People died and the investigation is ongoing. ",
"Please source this?!?",
"This was the needed explanation. I don’t know why there are people distrusting the many rail workers posting here... it’s clear that “priority” does not mean you will NEVER have to wait for a freight train to pass through. It simply means priority. Where possible, Amtrak goes first.\n\nBut yeah, “berenstein bears level conspiracy.” Here we go...",
"Are you serious? A significant portion of those were because of idiots in highway vehicles. ",
"that doesn't mean free markets are a lie that just means that there are situations in which governments are necessary. free markets work great for MOST industries",
"Just fyi road in one of these cars a while back and this was my assigned seat since they overbook the train sometimes. Yeah it was pretty but those seats are *extremely* uncomfortable.",
"Very well explained here:\n\nhttps://youtu.be/mbEfzuCLoAQ",
"take a chill pill dude",
"Plus the fact that the technology is still in development. ",
"Tall people with really short legs checking in. Hey are any of you guys really good swimmers too?",
"what's wrong with liking dicks? ",
">Some of the major operators of Pendolino trains include SBB (Sweden)\n\n[Are you doing this on purpose?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Federal_Railways?wprov=sfla1)",
"Or eat enough brownies",
"Disappointed that isn't real.",
"Man.... You are reminding me of my EU backpacking trip in 07. Me and my friend started in Amsterdam then train > Hamburg > (sleeper train) Berlin > Munich and flew out of Frankfurt. One of the most memorable trips I have ever taken. I would love to do it again, if flights weren't so expensive. ",
"They're not human.",
"homophobia. got it.",
"At $3/Gallon it costs me about $.14/mile to run my car - and that includes repairs, tires, and oil changes. The gasoline is $.10/mile. ",
"i think the interstate system has pretty much eliminated that sort of thing. road trips used to involve stopping in random towns, finding a random hotel, discovering local spots... but all those towns have died out if they weren't located at an exit when the highway was built, and people usually only stop at those exits if they need gas or if that's where they're staying the night. and no town *wants* to be discoverable from that point, because if you are, that means you're getting a lot of road noise.",
"This is true but I've never actually checked the policy of bringing alcohol with you. I don't want to pay their prices so I just tuck them in my luggage. I do know if you get to wild on Amtrak they will put you off no matter your destination...",
"Every state is a very rural state outside of its major cities. Less than half the useable land in America is developed.",
"Except they don't work in ANY industry and you're an idiot. ",
"How? When Amtrak comes through it brings everything to a screeching halt. Occasionally out of necessity Amtrak has to wairt and gets delayed. That's the exception, not the rule. ",
"yeah I guess the last 250 years never happened. my bad.",
"you get dumber with every comment",
"Well, for $186,50 you could have owned the [whole train](https://brickset.com/sets?query=10001-10002)! ...as a kid it made me want to be a trainer so bad! Only thing I achieved since then was to learn that '**train**er' is not the same as 'train driver'.",
"like I said, you get dumber with every comment",
"I am an engineer. The job is decent. Good money and some other things. Terrible lifestyle. \n\nI've never gotten the chance to help anyone out, That'd be fun though. ",
"I would argue that the work culture of America as well as the medical culture was far different in the 50s and 60s than it is today.",
"Show me a free market.\n\nGo on.\n\nYou can't, because they don't fucking exist no matter what Randian jerkoff morons like you think. ",
"dumber with every comment",
"the only joke is you",
"BURMA SHAVE",
"Man, that insult was totally free market.\n\nMeaning it wasn't.",
"you clearly have no idea what a free market is btw. it isn't just \"anything goes\"",
"Hope you will one day :P \n\nThis one time, it was night, and a train came, we tried to get on it but saw two engineers, and just start freaking out, thinking we got discovered, but I think they were actually trying to help us. \n\nThe noise was so loud though, the train was hissing ( trying to stop ) so we just booked it. \n\nSome engineers once found us in the actual engine ( A girl and I went to hide in there cause we knew there was going to be people looking for us, there was a yellow security band, but we just stepped over it ) and we ended up having sex inside the engine. \n\nWe fell asleep after, and the engineers found us, but they thought we were dead so they called the cops, and they were all very surprise when they found out we weren't dead. \nI saw all those electrical flashes but we didnt stop to think one second that we could get electrocuted. \n\nIn retrospect, it was extremely stupid of us. but.. at least I got an amazing story to tell today haha.",
"Yeah I understand Amtrak isn’t at fault for those, but there have been 3 recent incidents where an Amtrak train was going waaay faster than it’s suppose to be and it led to someone being killed. That’s why we need PTC and two man train crews.",
"you're a classy individual, aren't you",
"I did Fargo to Columbus, WI going home from and back to college. 2 am to 3 PM. Old every time I got up to stretch my legs- the old lady next to me spread out her stuff on me seat. Got pissed every time I came back to sit down and she had to take 2 minutes to clear my seat. Sorry lady, it’s Thanksgiving and no other free spots. ",
"Define: not cheap",
"3 conductors 25 sacks of mail",
"I only saw 2 on the list there. I dont disagree but the investigations are also ongoing. ",
"Ah, yes. I forgot to mention that. Decent food, too. I had dinner with a lovely Australian girl who was touring the US west coast. Good times.",
"I did an impromptu train adventure from White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia to Portland, Oregon last year traveling back from a funeral. It cost $260 (which was much less than a last minute flight) and took about 2.5 days. I sat in coach the entire way instead of getting an expensive sleeper car. The seats are comfortable, recline really far, and there's an obscene amount of legroom compared to a plane. There was never anyone in the seat beside me, so I could spread out luxouriously to sleep. There are outlets, but no wifi on the Empire Builder. I have a mobile hotspot, but service was VERY spotty out there in no man's land.\n\nMy only stop was about 5 hours in Chicago to switch trains. I went to the nice FFC fitness club at Union Station and got a day pass. I took a class, a hot shower, and hung out in the sauna. Then I strolled around Chicago and went to the French Market for an epic lobster roll before getting back on the train. \n\nIt was dark as I passed through the places I was most interested in like Minnesota and Glacier National Park, so most of the scenery was...North Dakota. But it was a nice change from flying. I heard that you get to see the pretty scenery in the daylight if you're traveling eastbound. I played Bananagrams with kids I met and had dinner with some awesome people going to Whitefish, MT to snowboard. (I also had a crackhead attempt to solicit sex in exchange for a stack of money orders and a microwaved snack bar hamburger, but you can't win em' all.) \n\nAwaking as the sun rose over the misty Columbia River Gorge was a spectacular homecoming. It's not as fast and awesome as the Shinkansen was in Japan, but I really enjoyed the experience. This summer I'm taking the train to Glacier for a few days and then I'm going to continue on to rent a boat to sail the Apostle Islands in Lake Superior for a week!",
"I just looked into this trip. Sleeper car one way is about $650, and it looks like it take about 35 hours...\n\n$1300 round trip is a bit pricey for me. Even as somebody who hates flying, I'd opt for a flight for sure. ",
"Okay, great. Is it more expensive to book on the fly? So you don't have to decide in advance how long you'll stay in each location? ",
"I'm part of the small collective of people that hop freight trains still. They ride all the same tracks as amtrak except you are outside on some type of ride-able. The view from a freight train is something not too many people get to experience. but this image right here is as close as anyone not apart of this community can come to ever being on a train completely turning over all control to the train, and where ever it may be stopping next. try sleeping on a freight train haha amtrak is extremely comfortable plus freight is 100% always free and doesn't judge you ",
"if you ever see a train rider. take a second to ask them where theyre coming or going. sure they have a few good stories for yall ",
"I've only been on shorter trips in the past few years like Chicago to Detroit. The smoking breaks you'd have would be about 5 minutes, you are supposed to stay on the platform and there are Amtrak employees walking about. So it would be hard to smoke weed inconspicuously. I wouldn't risk it because you might get kicked off the train and possibly arrested. I did bring booze along and I'm pretty sure that wasn't against the rules. I could be wrong on that or maybe it varies depending what line you are on. They do sell alcohol from the cafe car. I brought my own because it's cheaper.",
"I believe he was in Metroliner business class which means you get a free soda at the snack car essentially. Definitely not worth it. \n\nAcela business on the other hand is a vast step up and very much worth it. ",
"Could have probably built a nation-spanning Shinkansen network for the cost of Iraq and Afghanistan and financed it for the next 50 years.",
"Looks like PUBG",
"I took one of these through North Dakota and Minnesota. It's a really pleasant memory. But $5+ for a blueberry muffin hurt my trip.",
"It's ok tho since they built that bridge",
"Do you understand what trains are?",
"So you understand it's route dependant, yet you used and extremely out of the way route as your example, and mentioned nothing about route dependence in your \"it's four times as much\" statement....\n\nI smell a bias...",
"Are you on the East coast?",
"Insurance, depreciation and so on should be included as well for an accurate per mile. Add in lodging as well. ",
"Midwest",
"lmao",
"Aw man, my high school play group did the music man. It was fun to watch.",
"A train trip one day or longer will never beat you there but the point and observation remain correct about it being easier and cheaper.",
"My aunt tells a story about when she first started working as a travel agent in the D.C. Area (25 years ago approximately I think) someone called her wanting to plan a vacation to Hawaii. So she starts giving this woman quotes on how much airfare would cost, and the woman says \"no that's too expensive, what about Amtrak tickets?\" Of course my aunt says that's not possible, but she's also a little stunned that the woman wouldn't know this. Regardless the woman continued to insist that she wanted Amtrak tickets. \n\nStay in school kids! Learn about your country (and others) and look at a map once in awhile! ",
">That is quite flatly not the case for rail travel, especially in densely populated areas.\n\nWhy would volume be lower? Also if volume is low than is it really worth it to build the infrastructure in the first place?",
"My mind immediately pictures zombies or some shit destroying the world outside those windows.",
"He isn't worth engaging with, I'd suggest ignoring him for your own sake.",
"You'd be right",
"It's definitely cheaper to book in advance if possible, prices change all the time, generally in an upward direction. Having said that, from what I've seen, I think it's only about 20-30% more expensive booking on the day rather than a few months in advance. Coming from the UK I can't believe how cheap the tickets were. There may be ways that I'm not aware of to make it even cheaper, someone mentioned about becoming a member of the railroad association but we didn't do any of that. Maybe check out a railpass as well. ",
"yeah I gave up",
"So what? We're discussing who yields to who. ",
"Yeah I guess the third one that I’m thinking of is the maintenance workers who got hit in Pennsylvania. That one wasn’t an issue of speed but rather an uncertainty in track control. If I remember right PTC had already been implemented in that territory so that is also an issue. Plus the engineer and one of the machine operators had been using some drugs so that one is really just a shit show of an investigation I’m sure. But my point is that we should criticize Amtrak and the railways for cutting corners in safety procedures. I work for a class 1 railroad and the amount of bullshit I’ve seen pulled just to save a buck while putting people’s lives at risk is ridiculous. ",
"It depends when you book. If I went to a station now and hopped on a train to Edinburgh [it would be close to €200](https://i.imgur.com/6QN5hLC.png).\n\nAn annual travelcard is a real pisstake though. For me to get from about 10 miles in the suburbs to Central London it is about €4000",
"The car only cost $4,000. It can't depreciate much. Also, full coverage insurance is included in that $.14/mile, it's only $75/mo",
"> You don’t need a dozen stops in Wyoming, because there are so few people. Just cruise on through. \n\nWe do. By air. At about 7 times the speed of a train.",
"That's one of the most interesting things I've ever read on here",
"Sheldon would love this.",
"It's basically like a Wes Anderson movie on wheels. These days it takes a very particular kind of traveler to use sleeper cars regularly instead of flying, and I've made some of my most fascinating connections with people when we were sharing a cabin (yes - you can book an entire three-bed-cabin for yourself if you're willing to pay, but if you're not, you'll be stuck with two others in a very, very tight space.) \n\nThe trains look like regular trains, apart from the fact that you check in before boarding. You then proceed to your sleeper cabin which, again, looks like a regular cabin - the beds will be made later. There's a concierge who will take your breakfast order - you can have breakfast in your cabin or in the restaurant car. \n\nNow most of these sleeper trains haven't been updated in a while. Plenty of stuff you'll encounter is from the eighties - the creaky pull-down-windows, the font of the OCCUPIED sign on the bathroom doors, some trains even have thick carpet instead of modern-day PVC flooring. \n\nWhen you're ready to sleep you build a bunk bed in your cabin. Usually it's fully prepared and waiting for you inside the wall. \n\nStory time: my best sleeper train ride ever went from Germany to Poland. I had a cabin all to myself - the train was half empty - but some Polish folks invited me to party with them, so we drank through the night, which was good because it was freezing. Then, when the first streaks of dawn broke through the night sky, we opened all the windows and stared at the sun rising over barren lands while enjoying the ice cold morning wind. I was shivering and tired and exhausted, but it was an experience that for some reason I'll never forget. \n\nShould you ever get the chance - book a sleeper train!",
"Westworld",
"If you built the highway wouldnt you think you could use it how you see fit? ",
" Agreed completely man. I've worked for two, currently with the big orange one. They dont give a shit about saftey, employees or customers. ",
"Why be in the observation car with nothing to observe?",
"The rest of the musical is pretty good too. ",
"You've never been in an alpine hut I assume?\n\nSame experience, only that it's even more people on mattres.",
"NO!",
"And may the odds be ever in your favor.",
"We are discussing who yields to who. ",
"If you're too stupid to see the point, I'll yield to you. ",
"Fuck off. ",
"Gladly. Have a great day!",
"Dirt, its everywhere",
"Toodleoo. ",
"Personally, any trip where I don't have to drive is typically better than any one where I do.\n\nBut with trains, you get a better view and more legroom than planes",
"\"lookit all does tumbleweedz honey\"",
"There's been rail work through and north of Santa Barbara for a few years. ",
"Probably because it's so expensive they don't fill the damn seats.\n\n",
"You ARE selling this, makes me wanna go on a trip. But the trip becomes the train journey itself, rather than the destination, and most people cannot afford to spend that kind of time.",
"It will only take a month with a high risk of derailment ",
"Main issue is how you get around between where Amtrak stops. I'm British, don't drive, America is impossible without a friend who drives unless you go somewhere boring like NYC.",
"I wish our trains were that cheap. In the UK London to Edinburgh, off-peak (400 miles) is £141.90 == $194.77 \nand you're not even guaranteed a seat. You could be standing in the train corridor for most or all of your journey if it's crowded. You can upgrade to first class for an extra £101 but even then you might be standing if all the first class seats are taken. ",
"Yeah, i was thinking railpass; something similar to the Eurorail pass. Thanks.",
"I don't get the lingo, would you mind explaining?",
"The video lost me when it said there was 1 employee to 4 passengers but didn't explain why.\n\nThat... is absurd.\n\nAnd yes, you're paying the staff on board for longer per journey, but they're also less specialised staff than on a plane that should be earning less.\n\nI don't understand why they think the train needs so many staff to run... I understand that's across the entire company but it seems the issue is lack of passengers..l because it costs too damn much!\n\nI don't expect a journey that takes DAYS to be cheap, but DC to Baltimore is such a short distance that there's a DC airport in Baltimore... there's no air travel competition on that route. It is absurd how much they charge for that train.",
"All aboard the Puke Train!",
"Tell me about it. I voted in favor of high speed rail in California 18 years ago and it seems it will never become a reality. ",
"Welcome to America,where the marketing is strong but the products are weak.",
"Unexpected Music Man is my absolute favorite form of Music Man. ",
"The Eurostar is about the same cost as flying, usually. Especially when you count for the fact of getting to the airports either side costs money too, where as the train will typically take you more directly where you gotta go. I took Eurostar to Brussels last year and walked to the hotel. Couldn't do that by plane. You also get waaaaaaay more options with departure and arrival times by train.\n\nNot enough of those benefits matter in the USA, so the service needs to be cheap to be appealing.\n\nEven greyhounds in the USA are a problem because there's no connection to the bloody coach stations. You have to rely on taxis. Then everyone wonders why people don't use this stuff.",
"So taxes should be used just to amuse you? Lol no.",
"Air travel doesn’t work without government propping up infrastructure. Auto manufacturing? 2008. \n\n“Free market” toll roads were built by the government and then sold to whoever would say they’ll maintain them at a massive loss to the taxpayer. It only do we have to foot the bill to build them, then we have to pay some corporation to use them too. It's bullshit. \n\nThe free market is a lie. ",
"Sounds like you're just a fool.",
"No",
"notice how most seats are empty, and the ones that are full have a gray haired retiree sitting in them? yeah, that's AmTrak all right.",
"But look how rich our billionaires are! America is great!(for them)",
"What the fuck is reddit's obsession with trains? I used to think it was tied to their obsession to want to be more like Europe. But now I'm leaning more towards just a super nerdy angle. Sheldon from the big bang theory was obsessed with trains so I guess it makes sense. \n\nNow I know why they hate that show so much!! The satire of nerd culture hits a little too close to home. ",
"Beats British rail !",
"Yeah, like Besos with his $105 BILLION! I almost shut my pants when I heard how much that man is worth. It's sickening, truly. . .",
"this is why I poison all my milkshakes.",
"> Rail travel should be cheap\n\nBig part of the issue is the manpower cost. 13.5 hours vs 1.5 hours means 9 times the wage cost - and people are expensive.\n",
"From Fresno to Los Angeles which is a little over 200 miles, I do it frequently. $32 flat every time. That's only one-way though. Additionally there is a bus connection, but their buses are pretty nice and it's included in the price.",
"We subsidize his wealth by giving his employees public assistance. \n\nHe has $105,000,000,000 and still pays his workers less than poverty wages. ",
"I like how they are all bouncing around to simulate a train moving",
"Man I've been staring at tunnels all day gimme my netflix.",
"Tomorrow the SBS TV channel in Australia air a 17-hour 'slow TV' episode of the Ghan rail journey from Adelaide to Darwin - it starts at 2.40am\n\nhttp://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/sbs-to-air-17hour-episode-of-slow-tv-hit-the-ghan-20180111-h0go26.html",
"I keep reading gross country.. sorry.. ",
"Flying should be much more expensive...",
"We don't tend to have dedicated rails here in Germany (unless you count those leading directly to stations), the trick is to have dual-track rails which allow trains to overtake each other.\n\nIt's the slower one that's changing tracks to let the faster one pass, btw, because taking the non-straight path on a switch at too high speeds is not a particularly safe idea.\n\nAs such, there might be a bit of a slowdown because you of course can't overtake while there's traffic in the other direction, but things don't grind to a halt because of the track layout.\n\nIt only grinds down to a halt should, contrary to expectation, weather happen. It's not exactly an exaggeration that a handful of snowflakes can switch Deutsche Bahn into panic mode.\n",
"One of my favorite memories was going to VA on the train to see my cousins in the mid seventies. I got hungry and went to the dining car to get a burger. It was the first time I ever saw a microwave and the hamburger did not really taste like a hamburger but it was good anyway. Sometimes I'll get one of those crappy gas station hamburgers just for the memories since the same pocessed flavor hasn't changed in 40 years.",
"[Here's why it's so expensive ](https://youtu.be/fwjwePe-HmA)",
"How does a commercial rocket launch company prove your point?",
"Ever heard of 9/11? It's because that's how it was",
"I don’t think just because your mom gets railed in the caboose on an hourly schedule you should get so upset at Amtrak ",
"I took Amtrak from Philadelphia to NYC one. \n\nAnd If it was not 4 times more expensive than taking two locals trains (SEPTA + NJ transit) I would do it every time.",
"It is definitely efficient, the Eurostar travels long distances and is very popular",
"It’s weird because it probably became that expensive as more people stopped using it no? Like if there were more people using trains wouldn’t the cost be driven down? But the high cost is a huge reasons they don’t use it. It’s a catch 22.",
"Do those seats swivel, because that would get sickening..\n\nThough, it wouldn't be lurching every block like a city bus.",
"There were Germans and Italians, and nobody was standing-we were all in one big bed together, lying down.",
"Brought to you by Amtrak. It seems like the product placement has gotten. More obvious",
"It’s turn of the century Mid-American dialect. The tldr is that these traveling salesmen are complaining about how this one figure, The Professor, sells bands to towns and doesn’t know the area.\n\nAlso the song is set to the rhythm of a steam engine.",
"I asked at the ticket booth what the difference in WIFI between the classes was. She said it was just that there are fewer people it 1st than coach so there are less people sharing it. ",
"Rode San Antonio to Boston",
"Chi>sf one person in a sleeper was 750,2 was 850, 2017.",
"If you factor in the cost to the planet, it's probably cheaper.",
"9/11 happened because of a lack of locking cockpit doors. Ever noticed how every plane after 9/11 put those in and it's never been repeated? Even though box cutters (used to hijack the plane), knives, and even guns make it past the TSA all the time?",
"It looks faster though, that's all that matters in the end doesn't it?",
"Wow okay westworld",
"This is what I tell everyone. My preferred method of travel is by train.\n\nYears ago, I had to travel from north Florida to Raleigh for work. The all-night train left at 11pm and arrived at 9am. The other guy I travelled with flew, and it took him an entire extra day, plus a hotel in Raleigh. Go to sleep in Jacksonville and wake up in Raleigh.\n\nEven in coach! You cannot reach the seat in front of you, unlike an airplane where I can reach the seat in front of me with my knees.\n",
"I took amtrack from Orange County California to Sacramento. I couldn’t stand it. I didn’t take the train all the way to Sacramento the train made certain stops I had to take the bus a few times. Didn’t like the experience very boring. ",
"> Traveling by train is almost as dangerous as driving a car. \n\nThat is so completely not true it isn’t funny. Fatality rate for train passengers: 0.15 per billion miles. Fatality rate for auto passengers: 7.3 per billion miles. https://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/comparing-fatality-risks-united-states-transportation-across-modes-time",
"> It would be awesome to get more funding for a better national rail system in the US. \n\nAgreed. They should try selling more tickets and using the profits to make improvements.",
"Amtrak bought the car, someone took a picture of it and put it on on Reddit. If Amtrak hadn't bought the car then it wouldn't exist, so you are right. I'm sure all of the cat videos on youtube are brought to you by Purina or some other animal food company because most housecats eat food made industrially. Pictures of mountains lakes are all just crowd-sourced marketing schemes. The air you breath is just product placement by the EPA.",
"[“Amtrak’s safety culture is failing, and is primed to fail again, until and unless Amtrak changes the way it practices safety management,” NTSB Chairman Robert Sumwalt said in a statement](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-19/deadly-washington-crash-revives-questions-amtrak-s-safety-record)",
"It must vary substantially - I recently looked at Cleveland to Austin and it was $1200. ",
"I'm getting motion sickness just looking at this picture. I can picture many people feeling ill on this train. ",
"Yeah I take coach DC-NYC for $50 and it’s clean, quiet, spacious. For one-way trips it’s really the best way to go.",
"for a bit more recent I did DC to Chicago in august 2016 and it was 78 each way (It was cheaper because I bought early and it was non refundable) took ~23 hours each way and despite trying I couldn't sleep in coach (never tried a sleeper car but I think it would've been like 300 each way and I'm not sure it would've helped)\n\nIn November 2017 I did DC to Pittsburgh and the trip there was $66 the trip back was $42 (though it departed at 5:20am so that might be why) \n\nthe train to chicago didn't have the observation car but it did have wifi (though the wifi was so shitty it wasn't worth the bother) . The train to Pittsburgh did have an observation car also it was multi level",
"Wait can you link these prices cause I only found very expensive prices before",
"Because Amtrak owns the Northeast Corridor right of way (DC-Boston). You can't run on the NEC without an agreement with Amtrak, and Amtrak is federally subsidied to the point of basically being nationalized.",
"From an engineering standpoint trains are the most efficient means of land transportation over large distances. If you don't care about efficiency trains aren't for you. Go buy 50 bottles of water from a gas station and pour yourself a bath.",
"The Acela is nice--I sat across from Colin Powell and we stopped only twice.",
"They almost all have these. Not just \"cross country\" trains.",
"Beautiful! I'm getting motion sick just thinking about it!",
"I used to think this but I think with Tesla’s newer technology we should abandon rail and sink all that money into that system. Cars that drive themselves and can go into convoy mode. Trailer systems that attach to your car and use existing rail or tube systems to travel longer distances off the roads. Rail by itself just isn’t all that practical in the US for most people.",
"Wendover?\n\nYup, Wendover.",
"I dunno man, Japan takes the spot for worst work culture, IMO. ",
"that would make me dizzy",
"Err~~~~~~~~j",
"I love traveling Amtrak. I've taken the majority of the California Zephyr (Chicago<->San Francisco) at least three times. It's where I picked up my sea-legs.",
"Lolll omg \"large jar of weed\". Did they plan to eat it on the train? That sounds fun tho. How long did it take?",
"You don't have to stay in your (huge) seat the whole time, you can walk around, chill in the lounge car, eat in the dining car, even step out at long stops (if it is long enough you can leave the station and get something togo). The sleeping cars include all meals in the dining car and a shower.\n\nIf you have the time, it is a unique experience. ",
"Did you get a private cabin? They didn’t let us drink beer on the river runner. ",
"I wonder if this train will be going 85mph around a 18mph turn?",
"I did New Orleans to Tucson, just on a whim. It’s wasn’t expensive and it’s was glorious. ",
"I took the train from Portland, OR to Lynchburg, VA and loved it! It was several hundred dollars less then a plane ticket, but took 3 days. You have lots of legroom, a power outlet, and you can get up and walk around as much as you want. Enjoying a hot coffee in the observation car watching the snowy mountains and bright blue rivers of Montana roll by was a great experience. If you have plenty of time and want to save money, I'd recommend taking the train to almost anybody.",
"If possible, take a train trip for a couple hours or for a day. It is a first time must, and worth every moment!",
"The NEC is pretty standardized. The Acela is way nicer though. Almost up to Euro spec. First class on Acela is amazing.",
"And they make a lot of money.\n\nThey finally got a home rule bill passed allowing the NEC to keep its profits to reinvest. Amen.",
"No because there’s a huge amount of overhead to run a rail system in a country as large as the US",
"You get off the highway for some odd 50 mile stretch and go the local route... Always makes for fun discoveries.",
"Yeah but they're the worse maintained railroads in the world, and probably half of them are abandoned. We're also a bigger nation than most countries. So with all that said, it takes a lot of money upgrading the track (new rails, electrification for overhead to increase efficiency (and I don't think there's any high speed diesel locomotives), concrete ties.\n\nIf you're building a new line, or rather putting down new track, then there's environmental concerns which are now more of a road block then there were back in the days of NYC and PRR (or more restrictions, an example is the old line from Jersey to Scranton, same road bed they used from Lackawanna but it goes through wet lands and endangered animals spots) and NJ Transit it whomever is only slowly able to install the track (I don't know if it's going all the way to Scranton, might just be 20-50 miles of the line). Then there's purchasing the right of way, forcing people out off their homes or purchasing their land. And building intersections with roads, Bridges are expensive. For a strictly passenger service (which are almost always never profitable, even in the early to mid-20th century, just government forced the railroads to) to build a new network or even upgrade current ones you need massive government money.\n\nSo there's definitely more road blocks. As others said though, there have been bailouts and such for each industry.",
"Okay, you're right ",
"The seats recline super far back, too. They're fine to sleep in, just need a blanket since they crank the AC way up",
"I've done three, Chicago to Seattle (boring until the last few hours), Seattle to LA (beautiful scenery and entertaining people!) and San Francisco to Chicago (better than Chicago to Seattle but still boring though the great plains). All Amtrak, not miserably expensive for a seat, but the trip is 2.5 days. Food on the train is expensive and gross so prep some snacks and sandwiches. ",
"I've done the DC - Chicago route. I had a Roomette to Chicago, and a Bedroom on the way back. The roomette would have been fine if I were traveling alone. Cramming two people into a roomette is torture.",
"Which is why our life expectancy is so low. 31st in the developed world, just above Cuba? Rush rush rush, instead on enjoying where we are in the moment, it should be about the journey not the destination. ",
"Amtrack from Austin to New York is about $200 one way and takes 57 hours. Round trip plane costs about $10 more. ",
"As someone who knows exactly what part of Baltimore you’re talking about: yeah, it’s jarring. West Baltimore has a lot of abandonment - I think there’s something like 50,000 abandoned houses in the city. There are entire blocks of boarded-up houses. The white flight in the suburbs is so vitriolic about the residents of Baltimore and they never have the patience for that kind of big picture stuff - when most of the industry jobs left or automatized, the unskilled labor force was left in the cycle of poverty",
"They're that cheap if you're flying super common routes between larger metropolitan areas. Flying out of our local airport always costs at least 800 here in Arkansas. And those airlines that are that cheap are literally the lowest rated airlines in existence where they nickel and dime you for every little thing to help compensate for the low ticket price. They usually have the most cramped planes too.",
"You don't think a non-democracy communist state has an easier time of getting things done?",
"\"other people should subsidize whatI consider fun.\"",
"What does that wikipedia attempt to prove?\n\nYou just linked to Switzerlands national rail way company. Switzerland is the size of Vermont and New Hampshire combine.",
"How did you remember the exact prices 8 years later? Impressed",
"On a 3 hour ride, 30 minutes is not nothing. ",
"MARC train is like 7 bucks for the same route.",
"But if you take the Acela all the way from dc to Boston it’s much faster. ",
"It’s shit for those who are destination driven. Part of my experience is the journey itself so a train taking longer while giving me an enormous experience is what I’m looking for. I wish it was less money but it isn’t so whatever. Definitely not “shit” in my book. Train trips can be as memorable as the destination activity. It’s all in how you look at things. ",
"Yeah, 500+mph would be sweet. Maybe they don't even need billions in tracks and could hover over the ground. We could call them airplanes.",
"And you lived to tell us about it, congrats.\n\n",
"Have you tried Acela?",
"you're hinging on something very specific but the change in attitude towards flight was widespread.\n\nweaponless assailants couldn't hijack several planes, yes locking doors helped but it was a multitude of issues which began on the ground. \n\nsurely you can't be serious about the weapons bypassing security as an argument, without a doubt the increased security almost completely removed that possibility.",
"But if we have a cheaper and faster alternative already in place (air travel), why would we need the alternative?",
"We took the Surfliner LA to Santa Barbara. Inexpensive, quick trip, but beautiful scenery. The Amtrak folks were on point. Was really a great little trip and would love to do it again.",
"That's less than it costs to travel from London to most cities in the UK.",
"I don't think you are grasping the trillions of dollars required for a new rail line...",
"> when the average American gets 10 vacation days per year.\n\nIt's shocking to me that this is seen as acceptable.",
"That's an option.. bit it's 5 times longer than flying and 3 times as expensive",
"Couldn't sleep and I didn't know there would be nothing to observe at the time never been there before.",
"Acela is about $150-$200 between DC and NYC and the same for NYC to Boston in my experience (done both in the last year).\n\nThere are definitely cheaper options though. ",
"They don't fly? ",
"From Alaska Airlines: $59 right now on Feb 3rd and takes 2hr, 11min.",
"That's how you do it!",
"Is it possible to have those window designs available in airplanes? At night time, the view if the stars could be amazing. I'm asking seriously. ",
"Show me an example of it being cheaper than a plane fir anything over 100 miles. I bet it's not...",
"Been in these cars a few times. Watching a sunrise from here is one of the most peaceful feelings I’ve ever had. Always sad to get off the train! ",
"No I’m not, which is why it makes total sense that it functions in exactly that way. Lol?",
" The whole experience is so completely different - you just have to have the time to be able to travel by train rather than car or plane.",
"You can turn your chair into the driving direction. Do you get sick when you're sitting in a car?",
"im getting motion sickness just looking at this :(",
"I took this from Chicago to Williams az.\n I loved every minute of it",
"Motion Sickness : The Ride.",
"This is like a cross between r/thathappened and r/teenagers. Also \"ticks\" as in you got more then one from a train?",
"Motion sickness rail line.",
"I paid $200 to go from Whitefish MT to Boston, it took just under three days which I've done driving, but you have to pull 14 hour days in the car to get it done.\n\nA plane ticket would've been almost a thousand bucks.\n\n",
"Dat angst tho",
"Acela is a business class express service offered by Amtrak between Boston and DC",
"The Missouri River Runner doesn’t have an observation car? Granted, I always switch to the Texas Eagle from St Louis, so my memory may be shot. \n\nEither way, the trip from KC to St. Louis is my favorite. Always too short. ",
"yes but back in the day everyone traveled this way. If they could improve enough to get more riders it would easily make up for the cost. As it is, it's just stuck because it needs money to improve and it needs to improve to make money.",
"Business class on the Northeast Regional isn’t worth it. Arguably the upgrade on Acela from the standard cars (labeled “business class”) to First Class is worth it as it come with better seats, more private tables, a meal and all the booze you can ask for with a straight face.",
"This summer my wife and I took a long tour out west. Chicago -> Seattle -> Portland -> San Francisco -> Denver -> Chicago ended up being ~$1100 for both of us. Beats flying any day.",
"A one way from Kalispell, MT (20 min from whitefish) to Boston on United for Saturday, Feb 3 is $182 right now and can be done in 7.5 hours",
"I went from Boston to Seattle this way in 1999 and spent most of my time in this car just watching the world go by. Whole thing took 3.5 days and I loved every minute. I was in coach, but since most seats were empty I had a whole row and was able to lie down fairly comfortably. Also got to meet people from all over the nation and many other countries, which was a lot of fun.",
"In our yard, Amtrak has priority. ",
"In Canada, taking a train costs almost as much as flying, and takes x10 longer. its not worth it! They should price it so its alot cheaper to take the train, than more people would take it!",
"No, there are cigarette breaks every couple hours that you can easily use to smoke a joint. This was one of the shorter trips, I think it was around 28 hours or so?\n\nLA to Chicago was just over 150 hours, now at that point you just become a resident of the train, it’s fucking nuts.",
"There is something terribly wrong when it costs more to take a train from NYC to Boston than it does to fly... but it’s almost always cheaper to fly.",
"Even the NEC loses money when you take into account cost of capital and maintenance. It’s only profitable on a day to day basis - meaning it takes in enough money to pay salaries, fuel, etc. but the NEC is actually owned by Amtrak, unlike the rest of the line they use. The cost of maintenance is subsidized. ",
"This was quite a few years ago I don't honestly recall the cost but it wasn't anything extravagant. I was in my early 20's traveling out by myself to Mountain Home Idaho to the air force base to help my buddy drive back home. \n\nIt was honestly such an awesome trip. I had never been west of Pittsburgh prior to that. You get to see so much of the country and the ever changing scenery. All from the comfort of the train. No worries about traffic or tolls. \n\n Even with the bar car I had brought my own alcohol. It's cool to just walk around and socialize and hang out. \n\nI had a 4 hour layover in Chicago. I briefly checked out the city, it was winter so I wasn't outside long. Spent the rest of the time at a bar inside the station. \n\nThe sleeper car was great. A room to yourself. Sleeping in coach was no problem either. There was plenty of room and the train was not crowded at all. I had the whole row to myself. \n\n\n\n\n",
"I honestly had no problems sleeping in coach. It is rather roomy, I had no one next to me. The seats recline pretty far. ",
"That's exactly what the trip was like. No stress and just hanging out and enjoying the scenery with other cool people. I had brought my own alcohol but I did buy drinks from the bar as well. Best trip of my life. ",
"Probably doesn't get delayed as much. Never taken it though.",
"Where is this train traveling?",
"I did the same thing. Had my own stash of alcohol although I did buy drinks from the bar car as well. \n\nIf you can afford the extra day or two of travel time, it's completely stress free. No worries about typical travel details. ",
"That's why you bring your own stash! ",
"Never worries 'bout his line",
"I agree! I took one from Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Kalispell, Montana. 30ish hours one way. Fantastic trip and recommend it to everyone. You will see untouched nature. It's like taking a road trip with the freedom to walk around, eat, drink, and sleep.\n\nEdit: $350 round trip now. Back in 2002 it was about $200 for 1 adult",
"I did not encounter any of those issues with Amtrak employees in the sleeper car. I do agree that sleeping in coach is no problem at all though. ",
"The seats recline pretty far back and are spacious. Nothing like an airline seat. \n\nCoach was virtually empty on my trip. I had the row to myself. ",
"But it’s different than it was!",
"Seconded. I took first class from Seattle to Vancouver and the only difference was I boarded first and had a voucher for a free coffee and snack. ",
"That’s one of the little stabs to the pride, now that I have small kids. I self-sort into the slow line at airport security. It’s the only decent thing to do. ",
"Have you ridden in the sleeper car? I'm really interested in doing a longer trip on Amtrak but don't really know much about the sleeper car. Thanks!",
"Right? I stayed in my last youth hostel when I was 24. Couldn’t take it any more. And I’m 44 now - I can’t even stand super-cheap hotels. I just stayed in a hotel over Christmas, and the first thing I noticed was cracked floor tiles near the entrance. What is happening to me?!?!",
"Just give her the wifi password to shut her up!",
"It was the Russian Mafia. ",
"Well it's still 30 minutes, I think.",
"> half the speed of driving.\n\nIs this really true in the USA? How? \n\nAt max speed Dutch intercity trains tend to go 80 or 85 miles per hour. There's stops at stations, true, but there's no traffic so generally over a medium-large distance they tend to be equally fast. ",
"I always recommend train travel to people. It's so stress free and enjoyable. \n\nPeople complain about that travel time but honestly the train is a big part of the vacation. It's time to unwind and watch the ever changing scenery. It's time to hang out and socialize while getting to see the country side. \n\nLike you said, it's the freedom to walk around, eat, drink, and sleep. All the while getting to see sights you can't see from an airplane or while driving. ",
"That make sense. The trip was just under 24 hours, and I can sleep in coach no problem. I'd need special circumstances to need a room. ",
"Ride without a seatbelt and no more motion sickness!",
"There's really only a niche where the train makes sense. The NY to DC line probably makes sense. There are few others I'd imagine but they're few and far between.",
"As Canadians we've inherited the work culture of the US. Here's to hoping that we can pick up some of the successes of the European approaches to promote employee well-being.",
"Absolutely, the train ride is part of the vacation. Completely stress free hang out time to check out the sights and socialize. ",
"My uncle is an Amtrak engineer, and I spent my high school summers traveling the country with him.\n\nIt would happen once or twice every summer.",
"...Do you not preload your memes or something? ",
"That's not too bad! Thanks for the info.",
"You can get off at Diridon and take CalTrain all the way to SF. It's last stop is like a block from the Giants stadium. It's about $20 bucks though.",
"It's been a little while but that sounds right",
"TIL airfields have no federal or state ownership shares in the US.\n\nWait. They do. Everyone.\n\nAlso auto manufacturing? Really? Damn you should follow a history lesson. The first half of the 20th century US economy policy was pumping federal funds into this exact sector. ",
"If you're going in or out of Utah you may as well get a plane though.\n\nI assume it's because of the mountains.",
"It's a lot more complicated than that. Don't just speculate",
"Ikr why would a farmer in rural Alabama need a road within 10 km of his farm. If he wants one so bad then he can create his own 10 km road. His neighbour can connect it with his 10 km road. And his neighbour with his 10 km road.\n\nOr, you know, we do it together. That would be more efficiently. Why dont we all chip in some money and get one of us trained in doing it profesionally. \n\nPerpahps we should create some sort of entity that takes care of these things. We can fund it trougg all giving a bit of our income, hm? How does that sound?\n\nThats way better than letting some sort of government do it, HAH!",
"Yeah, it's cuz of the nerd thing for sure lol",
"I’m on my third, pair for with Amtrak and SPG credit card points. First was ATL-BOS, second ATL-Portland OR, and this one is ATL-LAX. Sleeper car in all, which means meals included and lounge included for layovers. Took kids on all of them. This coming trip will be in May. ",
"me simplifying the problem for a 3 line reddit comment isn't the same as speculation ",
"If this ere true amtrak wouldn't be as broke-ass as it is.",
"East coast train routes are hideous but mostly due to the hideous people onboard. Loud, self important, smoke in the bathroom, cursing and drunk or high in that reckless, I don’t own it I can destroy it way. Trapped on a long train ride with even a handful of these public transport bullies is the ring of hell even Dante had not envisioned.\n\nThat said, would love a cross country train trip.",
"How do you sleep in coach?",
"Wow awesome! That's actually perfect, keeping that on my list. Thank you! ",
"I don't think so, but from what everyone is saying, I should",
"In Jamaica the fisherman dropped his pants to take a crap on the roadside as we drove by in our tour bus.",
"It’s not just the ground speed. It’s the transfers and rerouting and hubs. \n\nFor me to go from Charlotte to Orlando, I have to go way out of my way to Washington DC. I can drive there in a car in less than half the time as Amtrak takes to make a train trip there. 7:22 vs 15:36 if I remember the exact times correctly from google maps. ",
"Amtrak doesn't own most the the railway so they have to pay fees to the railway owners. If the railway was to be profitable, like in Europe, a lot more would have to change besides more people using it. That's not really the problem. The problem is more that they have too much overhead, and it's too expensive to build new rails.",
"Actually... The Pacific Lane goes from Seattle to San Diego and you can connect Vancouver BC to Seattle. For some reason, it's not on the official line, but could be because it's Canada or because you have to change train in Seattle",
"If cars can be automated, trains are a far easier problem. Besides we have commuter rail in my city that has been automated since the 90s.",
"The chairs are very roomy and recline pretty far back. Nothing like an airplane seat. ",
"I felt exactly the same way. Except I was traveling alone and ended up being assigned to a window seat with an aisle passenger that spent 60% of the trip sleeping.",
"It's worth doing at least once. It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.\n\nBut yeah, from now on, I'll fly",
"It was the worst day of our 2 week trip. It sucked because it would have cost us about the same to fly and it was only a 2-3 hour flight. ",
"Never worries bout his line?",
"Ah, Eagle.... Nor sure where I got Flyer.\n\nI've only taken the Lincolns because they match my times better. Is the Eagle crowded at all, given it's coming from a longer distance?",
"Don't call your parent \"fucko.\"\n\nOtherwise, typical AMTRAK",
"No, they aren't.\n\n>Founded in 1971 to take over most of the remaining U.S. passenger rail services, it is partially government funded yet operated and managed as a for-profit corporation.\n\nWikipedia",
"Conductor does not drive the train.\n\nThat would be the engineer.",
"YUGE subsidising.",
"Yes, on any longish trip they are.\n\nBut, slower than half the speed of driving.",
"Of course I have a bias. However, it'd be for trains, not against. I'd love to see aggressive carbon pricing levied against airlines to fund construction and operating subsidies for a east and west coast highspeed express (Boston to Miami, Seattle to San Diego), and good service on regular tracks going across the country. The cheap fares on planes right now are a climate disaster. \n\nThat being said, \"four times as much\" was a mistake, I misread the Amtrak page. It's only ever twice as much, and fairly direct being SEA>ORD>NYC. It's still very expensive, and I didn't even pick the cheapest flight (because who wants to fly Frontier?). As I mentioned above though, I'd love for this to all change, and it has to if America want's to meet it's climate commitment, a radical transportation shift has to happen away from fossil fuels. Good train service up and down the coasts with inter-city transport provided by SkyTrains, buses, and light rail are the way to go, not electric cars for everyone full of environmentally-devastating lithium. ",
"Not AMTRAK. Ever.",
"In many places half the speed of a car. I can go from Charlotte to Orlando in a car in 7:22, or over 15 hours in a train. With a stop in DC?",
"You were doing so good..",
"Except it doesn’t make a profit so it’s largely dependent on government subsidies to survive, and even the [Supreme Court considers it a public entity](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/2015/03/09/dd125130-c691-11e4-aa1a-86135599fb0f_story.html?utm_term=.0704275d9484).",
"You want to see the country but you don't want to see it for an extended amount of time?",
"It is **not** owned by the Government.\n\nIf you look at the definition of Public Entity, you will see a special exemption was made for AMTRAK.",
"Who owns Amtrak, then?",
"Certainly. The train is going to be a more comfortable ride with roughly the same travel time, maybe slightly longer, but the cost is still far higher than by bus. Personally I would agree with you if budget was not a concern if it came down between Greyhound and Amtrak.",
"If I'm doing a 2+ day drive, the last thing I want to do is add more time in the car.",
"There is stock, some owned by government, some not.\n\nBut, it is considered, and run as, a private corporation.\n\nSort of like the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and Tennessee Valley Authority",
"I think anything from Seattle heading East along the northern border would be amazing this time of year. Plowing through snow, cruising across bridged gorges, mountain hauls, and waterfalls? \n\nBeats running through the desert I'd assume.",
"Boston, NYC, Philly, and DC*",
"Makes sense, thanks. We only priced a trip from Oregon to Michigan to see family. Sleeper would be required since we have kids. It's just didn't make sense logistically, which is a shame because it would be a fun trip.",
"I'll take the enjoyed adventure 4 day trip over the mission-style 2 day. Done both plenty.",
"There all out on this southbound odyssey\n\nAnd the train pulls out of Kankakee\n\nRolls past the houses, farms and fields\n\nPassin' towns that have no names\n\nAnd freight yards full of old black men\n\nAnd the graveyards of rusted automobiles\n\nSingin' \"good morning America, how are ya?\"\n\nSaying \"don't ya know me? I'm your native son\"\n\nYes, I'm the train they call the City of New Orleans\n\nAnd I'll be gone 500 miles when day is done\n\n-Steve Goodman",
"I think the solution to this is modular trolley-like trains. Each train car has a small electric motor. A long train can then be split apart in an automated fashion at each hub. Trains would need to be self-driving, but solving automated train driving is a a bit simpler than self-driving cars.",
"Self driving cars are already here. Within 10 years self driving electric buses will make a lot of this problem moot.",
"Good observations. It occured to me the last time i took the train, that if you take a plane, it makes the whole world seem smaller. If you take the train, it makes you feel smaller. ",
"Because transportation infrastructure is a public good not well suited to being a private business. Additionally, because we subsidize every other mode of transport.\n\nIt's not like your gas taxes actually cover the full cost of building/maintaining roads.\n\nNor did the airlines pay to build the airports or cover all their capital (infrastructure) costs.\n\nAnd both benefit from our subsidies/giveaways to the oil industry as well.",
"Philly and NYC happen to also be between Boston and DC. weird, huh?",
"Just trying to let OP know that there's 2 stops in-between; and it's not just a direct shot.",
"Who’s we? Americans? The world is not America buddy.",
"I absolutely love the the train. My father passed away when i was very young, and mom got his pension. Money was pretty tight, but she thought it was important that i see the country. She took me on a few diffrent trips by train across the country, and ill always be gratefull for the opportunity that i was given. It really is the best way to travel if time isnt an object. \n\nNow that im an adult, money is still tight, but i saved my money for 10 years, so that i could take another trip across the country, and i took my favorite train route to the southwest. I got to take the love of my life with me, and we had the best time ever. I wish i could do it once a year. But ill keep saving my money, and ill continue to spend it on the train system. \n\nThere is something so special about train travel. When you take the plane, it makes the whole world feel small. When you take the train, it makes you feel small",
"Actually I've taken several cross-country Amtrak trips and there have been children aboard and they love it.",
"Commuter rail and trains are far different beats. Cars are also much easier to handle than trains and generally don't carry millions of pounds of hazmat. ",
"I couldn't tell ya. I've only ridden the Lincolns that way. Most of my Amtrak trips are between STL and KC",
"Definitely does not",
"Yes, and then global terrorism proliferated and 4 planes got hijacked.\n\nI hate dealing with the TSA, but it's a fucked up world out there. The TSA might be ineffective in practice, but I think they are a solid deterrent.",
"OMG",
"Flights are about that price or cheaper and travel time is much, much quicker.",
"Unless there are 6 thirty minutes, and then they’re everything",
"> 0% of those people have children.\n\nMaybe 0% have small children. My family took the train from Minnesota to California when I was in grade school. It was an amazing trip. I had a great time.\n\n\n\n",
"I’m with you. 43 yo and stayed in a hostel for first time in 20 yrs this year (got in really late at night, was only 1 night and was less than half the cost of other downtown Boston hotels, and Boston hostel very nice). Couldn’t sleep between other dormies getting in at 2am, random noises, so-so mattress on a top bunk. Never again.",
"Got to sit in a viewing car for a few hours last time I took Amtrak. It was pretty awesome. Amtrak sucks as a business, but the trains are pretty cool.",
"Well, the last time I rode AmTrak was last March, and the TSA wasn’t involved in any capacity at that point. ",
"I have! It was in Spain however so I can't speak to Amtrak, but it was awesome, your own room overnight, wake up in a new place. Great way to go. ",
"That's the answer I was looking for, thank you!",
"Work culture, medical system, and (coincidentally on topic) our slow ass old train system.",
"Sleeper Car can cost about 500 bucks a night\n\nEDIT: so the one I took was only a 24 hour trip. The sleepr costs 500 per trip not per night. Looked at Amtraks website and looked at a sleeper from Chicago to San Francisco. It was 52 hours. A basic sleeping cabin costs around 480 bucks which includes 2 beds to the nicer option that has 2 beds with kitchenette and chair which costs around 1500 for the whole 52 hours. ",
"what should be the Sight ",
"Eyes cooling sight views ",
"Fair enough.\n\nPro-tip for next time: If it’s dark out of the window of one train window, it’s dark out of all of them.",
"The conversation is about Amtrak and the Northeast Corridor, which are American.\n\nBut good work on not coming up with an actual reply.",
"Yes - but to say something won’t work because in America it’s been difficult is a very, very weak argument ",
"What does it look like going way over the speed limit and sideways?",
"Learn something knew everyday. ",
"Have you never heard of City lights? That's what I was looking for.",
"Would love to do a cross country trip like this someday. Just sit back and relax and look at the views would be so perfect.",
"My 15 year old son has Autism and is obsessed with trains. This would be an acceptable compromise for me.\n",
"This is great, you can go on an x-country trip with no fear of the car crashing ",
"Then why does it suck even short distance? Why does the NYC transport suck, too? I'm sorry,but it comes across as the USA just can't get its shit together. Lol",
"Took a train from Chicago to Montana. Such a cool way to see the country!",
"who go to westworld when you can binge watch it.",
"Very true, but some people wouldn’t mind the views from ground level.",
"Active semaphores?! I cant find anything on google - could you expand? What are they used for?",
"It is both. Amtrak has priority so long as they are meeting their schedule, if they are off of it they go to the back of the line like every other train off schedule.",
"Rail works best for trips equivalent to a long day of driving, a couple hundred miles. Anything less and it just makes more sense to bring a car and anything more and it just makes sense to take air.",
"[Example](https://youtu.be/5kJlfTktA3I)\n\nHaven't been on it in the last year, so it could have changed.",
"Wow. Pretty expensive. Food included? Is it decent?",
"It’s not a matter of research or reality for me... it’s just such a shame. The dream is to have a modern, efficient railway. I understand the likelihood is next to zero.",
"It’s not a plane though, it doesn’t have to be direct. High speed trains accelerate and decelerate fairly well, so sprinkling some 30 Minute stops along the line (every 2 hours or so) would be fine, and useful. Have transfers to slower, regional lines. \n\nThe problem with direct is that someone living in the middle of the line could never get to either terminus if it never stop near the middle. You’d get more ridership with some strategic stops planned. ",
"They do slow down when the terrain demands it, you know. Not sure what track curvature would matter if they just went slower. ",
"It's the high speed Amtrak line on the north east corridor. ",
"It's been so long since ive done it but I believe there is a food included option. So you are paying for it. Amtrak is only cheap if you do coach otherwise flying or driving is typically going to be cheaper and more time efficient but you see a lot more on the train obviously. \nYeah Amtrak is expensive. I laughed when I saw that video that was going around here and facebook about how some buzzfeed columnist went through 10 or so states on 200 bucks. He bought an amtrak pass that did allow him to travel that but it was coach. Also Amtrak food is expensive so another thing you have to think about. He conveniently left that out. Yes you can bring food on but that is only going to last so long. There are some western routes on the train that take 10 hours. Yes there are stops but they arent slow enough for you to step out and get something cheaper.. Also his time expenditure would have cost him the most. Something like that would only work for a student. I can only take off 10 days per year. Any days past that cost me 175 bucks a day as that is what I make per day. Its cheaper for me to drive or fly places most always. There are a few exceptions to this but Amtrak really is mostly a novelty.",
"You do realize that toll roads are only used on long haul routes since there are substantial neighborhood affects associated with small local roads and it difficult to charge people for their use. You are just ranting at an idiotic strawman.",
"Bingo! Yes, America’s public transportation largely sucks across the board. That’s another key thing that often gets missed (I even missed it!). If you don’t have or rent a car at the destination, you’re probably not going to get very far. ",
">Also auto manufacturing? Really? Damn you should follow a history lesson. The first half of the 20th century US economy policy was pumping federal funds into this exact sector. \n\nBecause the government is corrupt and loves helping the shareholders of certain industries. You need to be on crack to think nobody on earth would be mass producing cars without government intervention.",
">Yeah but they're the worse maintained railroads in the world, and probably half of them are abandoned.\n\nMoron, I'm not counting the abandoned railroads. You do realize we used to have even more than we do right now? I'm only counting the current level of 250 thousand kilometers not the historical peak of 409 thousand kilometers. So no, I am not counting abandoned railroads.\n\n>We're also a bigger nation than most countries. \n\nWe have substantially more than China or India or the entire eurozone combined.\n\n>For a strictly passenger service (which are almost always never profitable, even in the early to mid-20th century, just government forced the railroads to) to build a new network or even upgrade current ones you need massive government money.\n\nAgain I never fucking denied this. What is implied by my comment is that I don't think such networks should fucking exist in the first place since they would cost a fortune in taxpayer dollars to build and operate as you have already rightly pointed out.",
"Moving the goal posts.",
"Strawman. Funny how reddit recently discovered that word. Everytime users get their faces pressed on facts they yell strawman. Rather pathetic.",
"I think what happens is that certain periods of time freight becomes more important (before xmas is called peak season and we haul almost all amazon and ups shipments), and dispatchers choose to ignore the rules for a couple months so the companies don't lose money. But that rule is still in place. I have a current copy. I just don't think I'm allowed to post it because of security and all that",
">Auto manufacturing? 2008. \n\nBecause no one builds cars outside of America. And if the automakers went under than car manufacturing would die forever, your right automaking would be a dead industry without government. Oh no wait, that's retarded. There are tons of car manufacturers all over the world and the notion that they could not exist without taxpayer dollars is stupid.\n\n>“Free market” toll roads were built by the government and then sold to whoever would say they’ll maintain them. \n\nThere's a variety of reasons for this most of which have to do with the government. Also some roads (like the interstate network) were built for explicitly military purposes.\n\n>The free market is a lie. \n\nIt isn't.",
"The rule book is called Train Dispatchers/Operators Manual and the rule is 40.23 \"Do not delay passenger trains for Freight trains or maintenance work unless approved by the chief dispatxher. Plan work sufficiently in advance to avoid delay to passenger trains while minimizing freight train delays and maximizing maintenance activities. Report all passenger delays to the chief dispatcher.\"",
"How the flying fuck am I moving the goalposts? My entire point is that car manufacturing is a private enterprise the fact that the government is corrupt and beholden so special interests so it occasionally bails out certain industries doesn't change the fact that global car manufacturing is overwhelming privately owned and operated.",
"You just didn't fucking understand what I was saying in the first place and now you're bitching when I point that out for you. Go back to masturbating furiously while imagining yourself taking down Anachro Capitalists with your brilliant facts instead of arguing with actual people whose views are slightly more nuanced than you expected.",
"Know what you're saying. \nSitting on a train, looking out of the windows, is, for me, a wonderful place to be. ",
"What if everyone did the crime?",
"Trains pass through totally isolated areas that can only be reached by days of hiking or hours of offroad driving.\n\nYou'll literally take that trip in a way you've never experienced before and could never experience any other way.",
"Oh no, I was talking about cars being safer. ",
"NYC transportation is good you’re out of your mind ",
"Food and drinks on the train for 2 days each way add up though. Plus that’s 3 extra vacation/nonworking days you need to burn. ",
"People used to ride horses too, doesn’t mean throwing money at riding on horse back would make it convenient in the 21st century ",
"I do if I am not front facing. I get carsick very easily. I didn't realize that the seats could change direction",
"Ha. You are the only reply that got the reference. ",
"Then you're welcome to pay for it. The government shouldn't do what is a novelty for a few.",
"California is definitely an exception (that is subsidized by the state).",
"Except, no it's not. And very few people think it is if they've used public transport anywhere else in the world.",
"I think I will try that. I've had a bit of trouble here and I really want to go somewhere and have a memorable experience. This is going to be my thing. Should I try to learn a Language?",
"You're just wrong on so many levels. \n\nAuto manufacturing around the world is subsidized by governments. Whether it's direct ownership or tax breaks for putting your factory somewhere, governments subsidize auto companies. That's without even getting into keeping the fuel to run automobiles affordable via energy subsidies. \n\nThere is no good reason for public money to pay for projects that will be owned for profit by private entities. None. \n\nYour examples of the free market have been shown to be examples of anything but. Got any more?",
"Okay man, I wasn't even mad. There's no need for you to either, so relax.\n\nThat said, I'm not exclusively talking abandoneed either. A lot of railroads have poorly maintained tracks, along with railroads they stop maintaining / using but its not registered abandoned, so naturally those lines get counted. They put them on the backburner for potential future use.\n\nAlso, railroads are great for transporting freight in excess with much less greenhouse gases, effectively the ultimate carpooling. And trains are excellently used in Europe & Japan, and China as well with high speed service. The US infrastructure is so far behind its in the days of the PRR. In the railroads defense, they have a much greater region to cover. CSX covers pretty much the entire eastern seaboard.\n\nI think if the giov't rightly put the right amount into upgrading the infrastructure, we would have a good alternative to air travel, highways would be less crowded and TSA wouldn't be as big of an issue. Unfortunately it will cost a ton to upgrade and as you've pointed out, people just aren't too big into trains.",
"It really is, I’ve taken one from Salt Lake City to Michigan and back a few times and it’s really enjoyable. ",
">And trains are excellently used in Europe & Japan, and China as well with high speed service.\n\nThey are also heavily government subsidized, ordinary international trains aren't price competitive with low cost air carriers in many circumstances and they are astonishingly slow. High Speed rail is substantially more expensive than air travel and isn't available for the overwhelming majority of the routes in Europe. There is simply absolutely no compelling reason to try to bring passenger rail to the US.\n\n>we would have a good alternative to air travel\n\nThat is simply not true.",
">Auto manufacturing around the world is subsidized by governments.\n\nAgain governments often support special interests but you need to be on crack to think that the system only works because of the government or that costs are substantially lower because of the government.\n\n>Your examples of the free market have been shown to be examples of anything but\n\nlol no",
"Are you kidding? The TSA fails to find [almost all weapons](http://abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-airports/story?id=51022188) in undercover inspections and has essentially since they were formed. I'm shocked you've never heard of this. ",
"How is \"governments often support special interests\" NOT mutually exclusive to the idea of a free market?",
"Trains are vastly better from an environmental standpoint than planes are. ",
"Because nothing in the real world is ever simple. Doesn't alter the fact that the car manufacturing market is almost completely driven by market forces and would operate in pretty much exactly the same way if there was no government interference in the first place.",
"This discussion began with an assertion that the free market is a lie. You have done nothing but provide examples that bolster that point of view. \n\nGood day. ",
"Hmm. Strange thing to start a out masturbating all of a sudden. You got issues bro.",
"I sense a meltdown.",
"Or a doggone thing. He's just a bang-beat, bell-ringing, big-haul, great-go, neck-or-nothing, rip-roarin', every-time-a bull's-eye salesman. That's Professor Harold Hill, Harold Hill.",
">This discussion began with an assertion that the free market is a lie.\n\nWhich is the dumbest assertion in the history of assertions, possibly ever.\n\nIt's like claiming that true communism has never been tried.",
"Yes, the Amtrak folks were great when I traveled with them and my porter was attentive and accommodating.",
"Good rebuttal, I'm convinced.",
"I have a left handed dvorak keyboard so that I can use my right hand for mastrubating at all times. You're just jealous because you're incapable of continuous orgasm.",
"I was in a middle school production. It's harder than it looks to get everyone in time like that.",
"I said good day. ",
"Ironic.",
"I did this from Minnesota to Seattle. Went through the Dakotas down to the coast in Oregon and then up. Sounds awesome, and the highlights were. The rest was the most depressing landscape ever in the west. 3/7 take a plane.",
"You'll be gone 500 miles when the day is done.",
"Lock the cockpit door. I think that is all that needed to happen. I don't mind *some* security in the airport, maybe just patrolling officers and x-ray on bags. But what we go through these days is complete overkill. It is security theater.",
"Planes are safer than even trains. That's not because of the TSA.",
"I would. How about we just have patrolling officers (maybe even private security!), x-ray on bags but not people, and then locking the cockpit door.\n\nMinimal necessary. Fuck the TSA.\n\n",
"How long did that take?",
"How does the environment like terraforming the landscape and cutting paths through mountains and forests? Plus moving small species stowed away right across the country?",
"I'm just jealous of the leg room tbh. ",
"See, this car seems far more dangerous to derail in, so I think I'd avoid it.",
"There are ways of limiting the environmental impact of tracks, like land bridges. Airplane traffic makes up 4% of total global carbon emission, which is significant considering that that includes all industry, shipping, and transportation. If we can do something to limit that, while providing people with a safe, effective, and affordable method of transportation, then we should.\n\nhttps://www.eea.europa.eu/media/infographics/co2-emissions-from-passenger-transport/view\n\nTrains are pretty much universally considered to be the best method of transport from an environmental perspective, but by all means if you disagree, you can challenge the scholarship.",
"Short, under 200 mile, trips.",
"Only first class includes food, and only on Acela. The food is nothing to write home about.\n\nOn the regular liners business class can include a free can of soda, but it isn't always easy to get. Seats/internet are the same, but you are guaranteed a seat.\n\nFirst on the overnight liners is a different experience, as are the sleeping cars. ",
"I said decreasing subsidies as in we have less subsidies which makes it more expensive. Also the red tape I'm talking about is primarily post-9/11 and related to national security concerns, genius. Jesus, get some reading comprehension or at least ask a follow-up question if you can't understand something. ",
"Busses are more efficient unless the train is at 80% capacity. And can turn left and right and get you to where you actually want to go.\nPave the train tracks, self driving electric busses that can link together for high speed runs. This would be the ultimate solution. \n\n",
"So air travel is no longer a part of this conversation? OK. Moving on to buses vs. trains!\n\n> self driving electric busses that can link together for high speed runs.\n\nHigh speed runs, you'd think they would need some sort of track to sit on, maybe isolated from other, slower traffic? And there should probably be a way to get from one bus to another, for safety reasons, so linking them together would make sense. Almost like a \"train\" of buses.\n\nAs of right now, what you describe is science fiction, and we are potentially decades away from something like that existing. What we have is high speed rail or alternatively, much longer bus trips. According to a few studies, although calculation is difficult, buses have been shown to be approximately equal to buses in terms of energy efficiency. Others show them to be less efficient. But there is no competition between high speed rail and long-distance busing as far as speed and attractiveness to the traveler.",
"So brave.",
"It's my favorite movie of 2017. (even better than Star Wars) I cant wait for the Blu Ray release.",
"What's the sleeping-in-coach situation like? Similar to sleeping on a bus? Or more accommodating?",
"The rails are the deal breaker, the trains can't turn. You are limited to train stations, so if you need to get home, you still need to get off and rent a car, or take a bus, and if there is a problem on the track, you can't drive around the obstacle. There are a lot of limits to trains, which is why they fell out of favor to a combination of airplanes and cars. \nThe US moves freight via rail instead of people. Well me move people too. We move more people than the rest of the world combined but somehow our trains suck. \nBut up until 6 months ago the biggest hurdle for high speed trains in the US was regulation. The regulations on trains were so prohibitive that it was impossible to build fast trains at any cost. We have a \"high speed\" train here in the north east, it's a joke. It's the best they could do with the regulations though. The crash requirements and cant deficiency limits were so tough that the trains weigh a billion pounds and have to go extremely slow through curves. Recently all our regulations just hit the trash and we are now \"allowed\" to build to some european standards where the trains are literally half the weight and the cant deficiency standards are like 20% as tight in some instances. \n",
"in my opinion, even the acela isn't worth it. a regional train takes about 15 minutes longer for like half the price. ",
"None of that was in your original comment. I will not apologise for not being able to read your mind.",
"> generally over a medium-large distance they tend to be equally fast.\n\nThis is true in the US as well. OP here has never ridden a train and has no idea what he's talking about. It's almost significantly cheaper than a plane ticket.",
"best sleep I've ever had has been on a train:) \nas soon as I board, whoever shows me to my compartment, I shake their hand, ask their name, tell `em mine, give them a tip up front and tell them I'm just wanting to relax.\nInvest up-front, they will take care of you :)",
"I'd love to be chugging along in this car while it was raining ",
"You have clearly not traveled through IL much. Most of IL looks the same - whether you're on the highway, or driving an hour on back roads. I've done both. *It all looks extremely similar.* \n\nNot to mention the Amtrak from STL to CHI basically follows I-55 the whole time. ",
"Well then you’re running a high speed train at not high speeds which is not a good use of the capital you put into buying the high speed train ",
"I have the same :)",
"Neither are school zones or car pool lanes... sometimes capital has to take a backseat to other more important concerns. \n\nAnd those trains actually accelerate pretty fast, so a properly engineered line with a minimum of sharp curves would have a negligible effect on overall average speed on a 3,000 mile run. Deceleration is the bigger concern, hence the engineering. \n\nAlso, I’m not a train expert, and I don’t know the intricacies of Train car center of gravity, but a lot of the high speed trains have electric motors under ever car, which helps keep the center of gravity pretty low, which helps with turns. We’re not talking about freight cars and coal hoppers with TONS and TONS of cargo in them. Just people and a lot of air above their heads. Turns can be taken at higher speeds than a freight train taking that into consideration. How much faster? I don’t know. ",
"It would still cost an absolutely outrageous amount. And for what? You're better off properly investing in things like public transport to the airports, so that air travel isn't such a nightmare. \n\nDon't get confused by my use of the word \"capital.\" I agree that not everything is about profits - but things should be efficient, and a high speed train that is going slow for big chunks of its journey is not efficient. ",
"That's not Amtraks fault. $190 round trip for that distance over ground is pretty impressive. It's a mountainous route, which precludes high speeds. Chicago and DC is a relatively cheap flight, it is a route many airlines fly so there is competition.\n\nPicking a route where flying has every possible advantage isn't a good basis for comparison.",
"50-70 mph is what Amtrak trains do now! It’s not slow, it’s just not high speed. And again, not big chunks. Jest little spots here and there.\n\nThe Europeans have high speed routes through the Alps... it’s possible.\n\nAs for cost, however. You’re right. It’s a massive, massive project. The sort of thing that it would take the federal government to pull off because no private firm could wrangle all of the required things together. And with the government involved, you know there’s going to be waste and inefficiency further adding to the price. \n\nBut here’s where I fundamentally disagree. Flying is and always will be a nightmare. Funneling more and more people into the airports to be herded like cattle is not the answer. Offering COMPETITION to the airlines, threatening them with empty seats, would be a better way to improve the experience of flying. Not delivering them more customers. Amtrak can’t compete with cars or planes in America, so the airlines benefit and they make the experience worse and worse no matter how many people they serve. Because there is no alternative. \n\nHigh speed rail would be a viable alternative to planes. Airlines would have to offer incentives to compete, instead of stripping away “luxuries” left and right. \n\nYes, it’s a huge investment. No one’s denying that. But a single train making 3 round trips in the time it takes a current Amtrak Train to make 1 round trip, could carry 3x the passengers at premium ticket prices. And that’s just Coach... think of the profits on First Class luxury cars and Sleepers. Much more profitable than the current system. \n\nThe point of an investment is to make money off it... spend money to make money. \n\nBut we do agree that it’ll never happen. So there’s that.",
"I wonder if the price is even more elevated by the fact that freight rail in the US is the most cost efficient vs anything else. Therefore moving freight vs passengers might add to the base fare. \n\nhttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2014/03/27/the-most-efficient-mode-of-transportation-in-america-isnt-a-prius-its-a-train/amp/",
"I think you're seriously underestimating how much it would cost. The price would be so high, you could spend 2/3 of that on improvements to air travel, and be way ahead. \n\nThe areas where I do see it making sense are in shorter trips between largeish cities, EG, LA-SF. These flights are particularly nightmarish because you have to do the whole airport rigamarole, including driving to/from the airport, just for a 1 hr flight. So a 3 hour train ride, straight from the centre of town, makes a lot of sense. But that starts to fall apart when you're exchanging a 4 hour flight for an 8+ hour train ride, which is what LA-Chicago would be. \n\nSo I do agree that flying is a nightmare, but I think it's easier to focus on making that better rather than investing huge amounts into a competitor. \n\nThe two things I'd like to see are the following:\n\n1) Better public transport connections to airports. In Sydney, you get on a train in the airport itself and it takes you straight to downtown. Easy. Infinity easier than driving or taking an uber, and costs......dunno, $12? Maybe? Can't remember\n\n2) More airports! America is blessed with tons of space. I'm not sure what is stopping companies from opening up smaller airports further away from main centres. That's how Ryanair gives such cheap flights in Europe - by flying you to some dipshit town. Even if you're willing to pay more to fly to the main airport, at least you have the option, and the airline has to compete for your money on price or quality. \n\nSo I don't think it's right to say \"flying is and always will be a nightmare.\" I live in New Zealand, where flying really isn't a nightmare. We're a smaller country, for sure, but I think some changes to US airports and flying in general would help to solve that problem in a much more effective way than laying thousands of miles of high speed rail track. ",
"An 8+ Hour Train ride can be scheduled and sold as a “red eye” or sleeper service. Save money on a night’s lodging while arriving fresh at your destination. I don’t see the problem with that. \n\nFlip it the other way, and the daytime runs would be perfect for people who want to see the landscapes and scenery. There are perks to both! You are only taking time and cost into consideration when there are all these other variables. \n\nAmerica is huge and varied, and people want to see the prairies, mountains, deserts, coasts, and forests from the ground. You don’t get that from flying. \n\nAnd, I’m sorry, but aside from making airports easier to get to, how do spend money to improve the flying experience? \n\nSecurity will always be an issue... now they’re cracking down on laptops and tablets more than they used to. \n\nSo what are these improvements that could be bought? Nothing will stop airlines trying to maximize their profit by whatever means necessary. \n\nAs for Ryanair’s network... it works in Europe because of the PUBLIC TRANSPORT systems. America doesn’t have anything on that scale. \n\nI flew out of Glasgow-Prestwick, which is an hour from Glasgow on a commuter train... that’s very rare in most of America.\n\nI flew into Karlsruhe-Baden, Germany, and took a minibus to Strasbourg, France, 45 minutes away. It works because of the proximity. \n\nIn America, regional airports aren’t big enough for big jets to land. They’re made for private jets and propeller planes. And there’s no infrastructure on the ground. They don’t have car hire facilities, or restaurants. It’s just a little building with like 2 people working there. That’s an American regional airport. \n\nWest of Chicago, there’s almost nothing in America except for 2-3 dozen large cities, several of which are on the Pacific Coast. Bear in mind, that San Francisco’s to Chicago is comparable to Lisbon to Poland’s border with Belarus. Europe has a much more dense population in that range than America does. \n\nSo yeah, a budget airline could fly out to Rapid City, and you could rent a car there... but unless you’re going toRapid City, it’s like a 4+ Hour drive to anywhere else. (I’m exaggerating a little for effect, but that’s not too far off from reality.)\n",
"I specifically said we should improve public transport. It would be much, much cheaper than building a boondoggle high speed rail line, for people who \"want to see the scenery.\" \n\nMoney may not be everything to you, but every dollar of tax money spent on giving people a way to see scenery is a dollar not being spent on helping people who are poor, down on their luck, unskilled, needing medical care etc, so its a bit glib to just handwave the money away.",
"Americans don’t really use tax money for any of that anyway... at least, not anymore. \n\nAnd AMERICA DOESN’T HAVE FUNCTIONAL PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IN RURAL AREAS IN THE FIRST PLACE. We have Amtrak, which will probably be shutting down long distance lines in the near future. We have Greyhound, which is a running joke that people refuse to use. A few places have Megabus, but it’s very limited. \n\nYou are severely underestimating the lack of transportation options that exist here. It’s not a matter of improving them... it’s a matter of building them from scratch. ",
"Crust punk, I'm guessing.",
"Which is STILL cheaper than building high speed rail from scratch",
"I’d still challenge that. Building dozens of little-ish things versus one big thing... weighed against the profit potential of each. \n\nWe’re never going to agree, and that’s fine. I’m just talking about a pipe dream, I’m not sure why you’re so vehement in your efforts to shut it down. I’m trying to be nice because you’re not from here, and you don’t know how bad the problem really is. It is next to impossible to travel any distance in the Western United States without a car unless you’re already on one of the 3 railroad lines. It’s like central Australia... there’s nothing there... except for places people want to go to like national parks, ski mountains, and yes, SCENERY. ",
"Went from Seattle to Emeryville, CA. Had a pair of adjoining rooms. Was nice, but I have to say, smallest bathrooms Ive ever seen. Smaller than plane bathrooms.",
"We used to have extensive passenger rail as late as the 60s, the rise of car culture hurt it greatly it and then cheap air travel killed it dead. The private passenger lines went bankrupt and what was left was nationalized and became Amtrak.",
"I almost always go by Amtrak when I need to get from Fargo to the Cities for exactly this reason! More comfortable AND fewer sketchy people.",
"> Greyhound Walmart tube\n\nHa, great description of those shit-buses!",
"You want to catch the California Zephyr train out of Chicago. The train runs through all of Colorado and Utah, including Salt Lake City and a bunch of smaller towns. The only one I remember is Helper, Utah because the name was so odd.",
"So if there's nothing there, why connect it with infrastructure that needs to be maintained? \n\nI'm vehement because it's a really common thing - people get behind big silver bullet solutions to problems, but are reticient to get behind little, incremental changes that would add almost as much, as much or more value at significantly lower cost. But incremental things aren't as cool, so they don't get as much focus.\n\nNone of that is to do with you, of course, because I don't know anything about you, but that's why I'm being (perhaps unnecessarily) vehement about this. ",
"Took that from Fargo to the West Coast some years back, it was great!",
"Let me rephrase, there a few things, spaced at great distances, that could do with some connecting. Also, there are some people who live there, that might appreciate an alternative method of travel. ",
"Portland to Seattle is pretty busy the 2 trips I took on it last year.\n\nSeems if you take Amtrak on either coasts its fine but through the heartland its less used and lower ridership.",
"Much more comfortable. The seats recline pretty far and there's tons of leg room. \n\nI had the whole row to myself as well. ",
"Word I was just being glib. I’m sure I’d enjoy it too I love a good train ride. I think we’ll get the glory days back when self driving cars are more prevalent. ",
"Not for the freight companies who have been around hundreds of years and are worth hundreds of billions of dollars. But if Amtrak (or anyone else) were to build a separate dedicated high speed cross country rail line yes the cost to build and maintain would be prohibitive.",
"Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. So they are stuck using existing rails, yeah?",
"I don't have short legs, but I am a good swimmer. Swim team for three years back in high school.",
"Thanks for clarifying. ",
"I mean you would you like really bland boring comedy",
"Tell us, what's his line? \nWhat's his line?",
"Correct. Mostly rail lines owned by BNSF/UP. (And the various east coast RRs)",
"He's a music man!",
"He's a what? ^^He's ^^a ^^^what?",
"He's a music man and he sells clarinets to the kids in the town with the big trombones and the rat-a-tat drums,\nbig brass bass, big brass bass, and the piccolo, the piccolo. The uniforms too, with a shiny gold braid on the\ncoat and a big red stripe runnin' down...",
"HWELLLL I don't know much about bands, butcha can't make a livin' selling big trombones, nooooo sir, mandolin picks, perhaps, and here and there a jew's harp-",
"No, the fellow sells bands, boy's bands. I don't know how he does it, but he lives like a king and he dallies\nand he gathers and he plucks and shines, and when the man dances, certainly boys, what else? The piper pays him! Yes sir, yes sir, yes sir, yes sir.\nWhen the man dances, certainly boys, what else? The piper pays him!",
"YESSSSSSIR",
"The best thing about this is if you look under the side rails you'll see power outlets and USB charging ports. They were everywhere on Amtrak trains. I really liked that fact.",
"It's 452bpm, somebody put it to speedcore :D",
"Hey, transfer that energy into cultivating your kids to behave well and planning around them to help them be at your best. You try to do that and you're better than 90% of parents I see out and about, doing stuff like going INTO target with their kid having a flailing, screaming, full tantrum already.",
"I just checked prices from Tacoma to Minneapolis and one seat was $160 while flying is around $700. For my three kids and I it would have been $1200 for a private room, while flying would have been over $2500. The room is small but you have charging ports and access to the dining and observation cars. You can get up and walk around, and all the toilets are full size. It's an enjoyable experience, albeit a slower one.",
"I just checked, for him it would $108 for a 17 hour train trip or $68 for a 2 hour flight one way. He's not talking out of his ass, his circumstances are just different from yours. ",
"Reminds me of the [train to Machu Picchu](https://www.peru-top10.com/images/photos/expedition3.jpg)",
"Yeah, I never go *into* a store with kids in tantrum mode! It’s like dehydration: if you feel thirsty, it’s too late. If they’re already screaming, it’s too late. :-)",
"Thank you. Stupid question: are you allowed to get off the train and spend time in any of those places then catch the next train?",
"You can't leave the platform unless you buy a new ticket, unfortunately. However once you get to Salt Lake City there is a local light rail called the Frontrunner that goes from Pleasant View in the north to Provo in the south. It is very affordable, too. $15 to go the whole way.",
"Total trip took 10 days, But I stopped for a day in Chicago and 5 in Nebraska, so total was about 4 of actual train time.",
"Increases in income and exposure to great hotels and service makes low versions of those less palatable.",
"Learn it once; it never changes.",
"I did this in 2009.",
"My train out of NYC left at 6 AM, so I was up at 5. Still have a picture I took before departing Manhattan.",
"Minus 9 years ago.",
"None of it wasn't a sleeper; I booked coach tickets. However, the coach seats on the train are laid out like first class on an airplane, and they lie flat. So since I had a seat adjacent to me, I was able to lie down on my own \"fort\".",
"The latter is the whole point. I've transversed the country via air probably 65 times, but only one of those showed me the USA in a whole new way.",
"4 days of train travel.",
"Sorry you didn't find my relevant commentary helpful. Do you have anything relevant to add in addition to your bitching?",
"That's what I did. Stayed in Lincoln with friends for 5 days to break from the rails.",
"The trains are also probably not from the Johnson administration over in the UK.",
"It's a life changing experience!",
"Back then they made a lot of \"smoke stops\". Especially in West Virginia. These were stops that were greater than 5 minutes, allowing all the smokers (and there were many) to have a full cigarette. The longest stop was probably 1 hour in Union Station in DC or Denver. I can't remember that well, because it was rather inconsequential to the trip as a whole.",
"Yeah, you fucking idiot.\n\nA coach ticket from NY to Chicago is $214, and Chicago to SF is $574 coach.\n\nThanks for the \"relevant\" information about tickets from NINE YEARS AGO, though.",
"Sweet....",
"Thanks",
"Thanks. About $200 and 4 days. Not bad at all of the train experience is pleasant enough.",
"Actually I did very recently. After I learned to slouch in the chairs a bit, I didn't have any trouble getting comfortable.",
"And you only had to pay more for that feature!",
"I didn't have nearly as grand of an experience like yours, but I did have a lady on my train that brought her goldfish with her. ",
"It's also nearly as expensive as a plane. I took the train because I was moving back to Minneapolis from Portland, and I could take 300 pounds of luggage free (6, 50lb. bags).",
"I did Seattle to LA.\n\nThat stretch with miles and miles of beaches was amazing.",
"It does cost a lot more than flying, but with the sleeping room you are pretty comfortable, and meals are included with room. I visited with someone in one of the family rooms and it seemed pretty nice. We went from Northern California up to Seattle to stay there a day or two on the Coast Starlight. We took the Empire Builder from there to Chicago, and took the Zephyr back. I think our round trip cost was about $1500 or $1600 for 2. While the train gives the kids more opportunity to move around, it also takes a couple of days. The club car and observation car give them places to go to, but they are not kid-centered. I think that the coach accommodations where you have to sleep in a reclining seat would not work well with children. But we definitely met people doing both. The shower room is tiny, and the restroom is small too. They are comparable to spaces on a motor home. The train is pretty much stop, get people off, get people on and go on. Not much opportunity to get off. Hope this is helpful.",
"#**BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW THE TERRITORY!**"
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"Maybe she was born with it.",
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"This picture reminded me of Anastasia ",
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"I mean technically it's a mistranslation and his name is Yeshua.",
"I think the driver is referring to himself as Jesus because he can disappear? ",
"Christians are gonna flip when they find out Yeshua looked like the people they were taught to fear and hate. https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/nodeimage/public/blogs_2015/12/jesus_reconstruction.jpg",
"Hipster Christians being all meta and ironic ",
"Christian pastor here. Never taught to fear or hate anyone. ",
"This would be someone who holds to dispensational theology to include a sudden rapture or disappearance of saints.\n\nNo idea why Jesus would be in quotation marks though.",
"I don't know how so many people seem to miss this. Quotations were used for a very long time as a form of emphasis. If you want to \"emphasize\" a certain \"word\" you put it in \"quotations.\"",
"Hey-Zeus ",
"> Christian pastor here. Never **intentionally** taught to fear or hate anyone. \n\nFixed that for ya, \"pastor.\"\n",
"No. You didn’t. I don’t fear or hate anyone and don’t teach anyone to do so.",
"You don't *intentionally* teach anyone to do so. That does *not* mean that's not what certain people take away from your teaching.",
"I cannot control the mind of anyone. If someone walks away from the gospel of grace thinking they are justified in hating, that’s not from me or the scripture.",
"Lol yet I bet you support trump. You're a fraud just like the rest of the cherry picking \"christians\". ",
"No. Sure didn’t. Keep grasping for that prejudiced view.",
"Nah I just know you morons. Youre the same people who try to claim America was founded on Christianity ",
"Wrong again. ",
"Pride is one of the biggest deadly sins so this cock nugget isn't going anywhere any time soon. ",
"Nah I'm not. But it's okay, you believe in mythology in 2018 so I don't expect much from you. ",
"Cool story bro. Love ya.",
"Isn't pride supposed to be sinful?",
"During \"the rapture\" all good Christians will supposedly disappear and rise up into heaven. ",
"Because stupid people tend to be borderline illiterate.",
"Well, when you say that's not from the scripture, that's your opinion. I know your gut reaction will be \"no, it's not.\" But hear me out. It depends on your personal understanding and interpretation of the scripture. You and someone else may read a verse from the exact same copy of the Bible and get a completely different meaning from each other. But you're not reading *the* Bible. You're reading *a* Bible. I know a lot of Christians would argue that, too. But it wasn't written in English. It was translated. And translated again. Every time that happens, you get the biases of the person translating it effecting the product. I know the argument for that, too. \"But those people were instruments of God. He led them and made sure they got it right.\" Well, there are a *lot* of different translations, and I'm not talking about just English. People swear by the King James version and say it's wrong to translate it into modern English (NIV, etc.), yet they'll advocate translating it *from King James* to the vernacular for places that may not have access to the text. Anyway, the end result is, there are a *lot* of Bibles, and they are all different, and they are all interpreted differently by different people at different times in different places and different circumstances. So the variety of meanings, many completely opposed, that you can get out of one verse is *insanely* high. Also, I know you won't want to concede this point either, but the whole thing is *full* of contradictions. Because it was written by imperfect humans with no common goal or ideology. They were just writing what they wanted to write about the allegorical savior story. Somebody decided to put it all together and call it \"holy,\" and you've been wasting your life by putting your faith in a fucking book ever since. And I know you'll not appreciate the perceived hostility there, but believe me when I tell you, there's not any. I honestly wish someone would have told me these things when I was part of the church instead of just the same echo chamber reinforcing the same *massively* flawed ideology I was trying to cling to. Google \"contradictions in the Bible\" with an open mind, and you won't go back to church. Also, I don't feel bad telling you this, as people seem to think is appropriate. Do you feel bad telling people information about what you believe that you think will improve their lives? Why should I? I hope others who might read this don't get offended for you as everyone tends to do with anything that isn't 100% positive and agreeable, but I'm not worried about you. I know you'll either just feel sorry for me because I'm \"mislead\" or you'll appreciate it when you finally come to the freeing conclusion that you don't owe God *anything.*",
"It's interesting that the full thread of comments is a bunch of assumptions. Let me remove a few for you so you know where I come from.\n\nI spent the first 27 years of my life as an atheist. Making arguments similar to what you are making. Suffice to say when I examined them in detail from those who could make them best, they ceased to be convincing. When I quit trying to reason it myself and instead leaned on the expertise of others in multiple disciplines these arguments disappeared. I finally dealt with rigorous argumentation and not the confused and emotional assertions I made to others.\n\nThe translation argument holds no water with me as I've taken Greek and read it. Translation is not some mystical action. Just changing a text from one language to another. That's how we can read the Illiad.. or Beowulf.. or any other work not written in modern english.\n\nMost of your arguments are addressed by hermeneutics and textual criticism. For textual criticism and questions of canonicity I'd recommend reading someone like Michael Kruger. (https://www.michaeljkruger.com/) \n\nBiblical Christianity is easily defended in a rigorous academic manner. I'm sorry that no one told you that. I'm sorry that no one told me that either for decades.\n\nFor common ground, no I don't feel bad telling people things I think will help them. Because I love people.. I love you.. I tell people the gospel. That Christ came for them.. lived for them.. died for them.. and was resurrected for them. And in turning from our rebellion against him and trusting in what he's done we can be reconciled to him.\n\nBecause I love people.. I tell them that, because the alternative is horrendous. God's wrath is no laughing matter.\n\nSo sure, I can sympathize that you think you're telling me something that will help. But i've tasted both sides... and I've tasted and seen that God is real and good. I appreciate the dialogue. \n\nAfter living the first 27 years of my life living like and thinking I didn't owe God anything I understood that was an empty existence denying the reality in your own assertion.\n\nYou don't owe God anything? What God? If he doesn't exist there is no one to owe or relate to and your argument confuses me. Because I'm not sure what your alternative is that you're arguing for.\n\n",
"It came down to one simple question for me:\n\nHow would my life be different if there was no God?\n\nThe only conclusion I could come to was that it wouldn't be different in any way. There wasn't a single moment in my life that couldn't be explained by a scenario where God just is something we made up. There is zero evidence for God. None. And turning to the Bible as a way to defend *the Bible* is like saying, \"See, it says right here, Sauron created the one ring. How about that? Now do you believe it?\" Some people need to believe, and I guess I understand that, but leaving all that nonsense behind was the best decision I ever made.\n\n> Biblical Christianity is easily defended in a rigorous academic manner. I'm sorry that no one told you that.\n\nAs in *nearly anything* if you know how to argue. You have staunch defenders on both sides of every divisive issue there is who will continue the fight to their dying breath and always *believe* they are right. But believing it doesn't make it so.\n\nChurches do some good things. It can be a good place for people to go to do good and keep them out of trouble, and to learn valuable life lessons and morals. But God doesn't need to be behind that. Take him completely out of the picture, and nothing changes. The thing is, whichever side you believe, if you continue to only listen to that side of the argument, you'll never change your mind, regardless of right or wrong. If you tell me you have looked into every single contradictions in the Bible and explain them all away, that's all I need to know. You're convinced you're right, and that's all you need to know. I know that being a pastor, having dedicated your life to a cause, it would be about the most difficult thing to do a 180 on that, so I can't say I'm surprised. Just hoping to plant a seed.\n\nI would like to tell you, I hope you're sincere about not teaching hate and intolerance, and I hope you can recognize it when it does creep in.--Because it *always* creeps in, eventually. And I'm also surprised and impressed to hear that you actually have read some of the Bible in Greek. I know way too many people who've only ever read the NIV and base their whole lives on it (outwardly). So good on you for that. Keep doing your best.",
"I appreciate the dialogue. I see what you're saying if all Christianity is about is what Christian Smith called.. \"Moralistic Therapeutic Deism.\" Ie.. a loose belief in some higher power that largely teaches moralism (how to act) in a therapeutic manner. Some smiley guy that tells you \"six ways to be a better man.\" etc. \n\nIf most churches are just full of life coaches then I get that objection. If God is removed from the equation of a church and nothing changes, that gets at the heart of what we're both talking about. \n\nI preach Christ crucified. If he's removed I have nothing to get up and say on any given Sunday morning. Too many churches wouldn't miss a beat if God was removed from the equation. (To which I'd say.. they're not churches.. )\n\nAgain, I appreciate the dialogue."
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"They're all a bunch of shit poos! ",
"Posted by a shitbird.",
"This is the stupidest post I've ever seen. Congratulations. ",
"Almost as shitty as this post",
"Hey mods, can we have a couple hours of no Trump shit ?",
"Don't crap on the whole family, especially the kid. You don't apply responsibility to children of \"parents \" who SHOULD know better, but alas, don't.\n\nI guess their social I.Q. is bordeline normal, as for the E.Q....what E.Q. !",
"I'm just commenting to get the karma.",
"Pretty strange to bully some innocent kid online.\n\n",
"Leave the kid out of it ffs.",
"Well... *shit*!",
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"What happened to trumptards being ANTI-PC now they're crying when someone tells the truth about trump and his family? Can you morons be any more hypocritical? "
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"OLRE-L",
"That place was a weird experience. Bunch of white kids yelling offensive things at and being yelled offensive things at by the large black women who work there and it's apparently a thing that people go there to do. Some of the insults the women slung were pretty funny I have to admit but it was some weird racial tension ",
"This is a shit hole",
"Typical Sci-Fi character name. ",
"Spent far too long trying to figure out what the red letters were saying",
"Will they let any number of people live in the restaurant for free from any country? ",
"This place is hilarious. If you find yourself in Chicago, and you have any sense of humor, you should definitely check it out. The last time I went they singled out my friend while we were pretty far back in line. He wears glasses, and they kept calling him Harry Potter. (he does kind of look like him). One of the chicks was pointing closed tongs at him and screaming \"Expelliarmus cracka! Expelliarmus! We ain't gon serve you. Go back to Hogwarts!\" It was ridiculous. Pretty good late night food too.",
"The best was when [Triumph the Insult Comic Dog](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33zPlnhymCU) went there.",
"You are not alone. ",
"No, but they'll do business (aka, spend money) with people from any country. You know, because it's a business, and not a country.",
"Sounds like a relative of Superman’s.",
"Chicago is a shit hole",
"Yes. Yes. and Yes!\n\nThis is a great thing.",
"Order the chocolate milk shake ",
"Red letters intermixed with the black ones draw the eye more than just black for this very reason. Our minds are pattern seeking so we subconsciously try to give meaning, or a pattern to that which caught our eye. It's superb marketing.\n\nThat or they just ran out of black letters.",
"What if, and I know this is a revolutionary idea here but bear with me... what if there’s a stance on this somewhere between “let anyone in to live for free” and whatever the fuck it is that Cheeto Benito is up to in the White House?",
"Chocolate Milkshakes are unforgettable.",
"I'll try it tomorrow lol",
"Im an extemist and am for open borders. But you cant have social programs and open borders you gotta pick one.\n\nAnd if you are upset with whatever Trump is doing that directly effects your life. Maybe the executive shouldnt have so much power that you have to be so concerned about who is in office at any given 4 years. ",
"The USA’s two party system and political lobbies are IMO such an incredibly grave, yet basically unsolvable, problem that nothing short of the literal downfall or breakup of the country will solve it.\n\nThings are sure to go great with China and Russia at the helm...",
"Pronounced 'oral'",
"Maybe it's an anagram. ROLE-L, LE-ORL, E-ROLL? Yeah, E-ROLL, like an online dice game. You don't actually roll them, you e-roll them. Now let's find the next clue!",
"Overnight the word shit hole lost all it's value. Can a word go bankrupt?",
"* robot, not person ",
"Weird racial tension you say? Sounds like a normal day in Chicago. \n \nAnd weinercircle sucks. ",
"I don't usually watch 8 minute videos but holy shit that was amazing! ",
"[This American Life on the Weiner Circle.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo1LPf9mnyU)",
"Yeah they will usually throw you out if the racism cuts too deep. They were calling me America’s next top model when I went (I’m a man) which is a sort of backwards complement. When I ordered my meal I casually asked for a side of picked cotton and the crowd started “ooooing” and the woman come out of the back and threw me out. ",
"Sounds like a fun place for some but also an absolute nightmare for others. ",
"Lmao ",
"tomato slices on a hot dog tho?",
"censoring the word defeats the purpose. ",
"why is it so large?",
"The first time I was there was the Saturday before Halloween. So many people were in costume, including me (I was an Amber Alert). It was about 2 am. I was hugged by a homeless man, was called cracker, had the world's best chocolate shake, and had 2 amazing hot dogs. ",
"Have fun cleaning the bathroom after people used to shitting in a hole try to figure out what a toilet is.",
"Used to live around the corner from there, one of the things I miss most about Chicago.",
"Wow, insulting our president and likening him to Mussolini. \n\nYou sure are a real class act. ",
"Why would anyone eat at a shithole?",
"He's worthy of absolutely no respect and brings shame to the office. Fuck Trump and fuck everything he stands for.",
"Can someone explain this full \"shithole country\" situation?",
"\"The Wieners Circle, where you're always welcome in the shit-hole.\"",
"If anyone can make it happen, it's Trump.",
"That's pre savage tbh",
"Everytime people latch on to dumb bullshit like this they forget to pay attention tho the laws being passed and the media and people focusing on this means when real shit happens no one notices.",
"just dont take your guns cause they want to rob you",
"Chicago is a shithole lol",
"If one can't laugh at themselves, stay home. =p",
"I have never been to the Weiner circle, but I feel like you don't actually get a chocolate shake",
"He’s also not my president, and I do mean that literally as I’m thankfully not a US citizen.",
"See: “racist”. And anything “-phobe”.",
"Well, it is Chicago.",
"Thank goodness I have no humor ",
"I am here with yoooouu.",
"What is the chocolate milkshake??",
"Yeah I’m truly not a racist but as long as we are all talking smack I’m gonna pick that low hanging fruit or in this case cotton. ",
"Welcome until you put ketchup on your dog. Won't make that mistake outside the confines of my own home again. ",
"Make sure you order a chocolate shake too",
"OLRE-L kids, because we're worth it too",
"I mean I agree but being singled out and commented on sounds like a nightmare. I'm sure there are lots of people who enjoy that though. ",
"I agree. It would very much suck to go there not knowing the atmosphere. I'd be Jack McBrayer in [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q14n3/at_the_wieners_circle_in_chicago/dslo7do/) situation.",
"Holy hell that was great. The dude in red behind the counter just basking in how great all the burns were."
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"Love the F40, but that 288 GTO...",
"Soooooo gorgeous.",
"I had a big poster of this when I was a lad. It looks so retro now"
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Ferrari F-40. One of my childhood dream cars.
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"So you have paper with a bunch of holes in it? ",
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"[Just different shapes of paper, and some parts can pop out](https://i.imgur.com/HdSUeUc.png)\n\nedit: I'd link to their page, but instagram isn't allowed, they're @triad_inc",
"I love that😍 where can I buy it????",
"[According to this](http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2018/01/12/omoshiro-block/), they have a store in Osaka, so kinda limited there. But on Twitter they said you could buy them [on their website](https://twitter.com/jyakkan4679/status/951321783491112960). I couldn't get it to connect, and the japanese translation said, \"Access is concentrated, it is hard to connect. Please try again later.\" If it works later on I'll message you lol. ",
"Thank you so much! "
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this Japanese notepad company leaves you with cool 3-D models when the paper runs out
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"No clitoris noted on them, however",
"An incorrect one, at that. It's based on Gray's drawings in his eponymous Anatomy book, and that image is the best known depiction of the female reproductive system, but it's misleading. He pulled the ovaries away from the uterus and stretched the fallopian tubes to display their structure, but in reality the tubes wrap around the uterus and the ovaries are held close to the uterus.",
"These don't leave much to the imagination."
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Finally, panties with a map
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"Looks like the hill from The Nightmare Before Christmas",
"wow even the clouds in Santa Cruz have good surf",
"U up at East field?",
"Taken at Stevenson!",
"Cowell grad checking in! :) Seriously the most beautiful campus in the us."
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Wave-like Fog in Santa Cruz
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"F-52?",
"Yes. Yes it is. ",
"Arizona? ",
"Yea Pima Air and Space Museum in Tucson."
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VC-137B
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"Aye aye Capitan ",
"It feels like the 7 minutes isn't necessary in that context.",
"~194,000 years and 7 minutes",
"/u/bobbybittman, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/bobbybittman&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q1b1d/ill_make_some_tea_then/?context=10\\))"
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I’ll make some tea then
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"She's too fabulous.",
"/u/sunburnedtourist, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must not ask for general information or feedback. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/sunburnedtourist&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q1cwo/can_you_guess_why_shes_banned_from_this_room/?context=10\\))",
"Really? It was a rhetorical question smh"
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Can you guess why she’s banned from this room?
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"Nobody outside of your little hate group is ever going to take you seriously, based on your dim use of the word \"based\".",
"Who exactly are they hating, other than pedophiles?",
"I just wanted to block you so I don't see any more of your dipshit stuff. Thanks.",
"Any time, friend."
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Based AFRICAN-AMERICAN Woman EXPOSES Democrat Pedophilia Epidemic
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"Wow. Not to sound rude, but the camera quality really adds to the picture and i love it. ",
"That’s true ! but it impressive what we can do whit a really small camera ",
"So true ",
"Best camera you can have is the one you take with you"
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A shivering picture taken with only an iPhone 5!
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"Repost?",
"Is it? I found it on his FB page. ",
"Someone posted it recently I believe",
"Son of uhhhhh. I’ve been duped. ",
"Got posted yesterday yo",
"God dang it. I’ve learned. Should I delete? ",
"Probably. It's a great photo but the guy who took it posted it yesterday so let him take credit for his own work ",
"He posted it [yesterday I believe](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7pu7xg/took_a_picture_of_niagara_falls_this_weekend_it/)",
"Why lie on [the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7pu7xg/took_a_picture_of_niagara_falls_this_weekend_it/)",
"And please ask the friend to credit the photos he posts...",
"will do, apologize sir. I was dooped myself. "
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Friend snagged a pic of near-frozen Niagara Falls this week at the Cave of the Winds.
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"This place never ceases to amaze me ~ \"Dude, that's just a Tuesday\"\n\nWhat island?",
"Oh yea, it was the first vacation I was on in 5 years, and first time I have ever been off the mainland U.S. , so it was incredible to me haha \n\nIt was in Honolulu on top of Diamond Head (which is a volcano) ",
"Very amazing place. I went to Oahu and Hawaii first, second trip was Maui. IMHO Maui > Oahu > Hawaii. Halekala was mind blowing",
"Oh wow that's incredible, yea Maui looks absolutely amazing! Hopefully I'll go there one day haha",
"had my honeymoon in Maui and Kauai it was amazing. 10 days in maui, 5 on each side of the island and 4.5 days in Kauai. it was unbelievable",
"Heaven on earth"
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Took this over the summer when I was in Hawaii, thought it looked very ominous
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"Its purge season already? ",
"Thats just creepy",
"Well, the dogs look okay. ",
"This is reminiscent of the [repair](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/octogenarians-hilarious-f_n_1821389.html) of the Jesus picture.",
"Repost #87665",
"If by ok you mean overweight then yes",
"So what am i looking at? All seems well to me.",
"\"Everything Normal in Canada\"",
"“When the fam mistakes your weed brownies for grandmas” ",
"My God, this looks like something out of the Church of the Sub Genius's Art Mines!",
"Wow. They look like they're wearing those Japanese beauty masks. Horrifying.",
"Don't you mean the best photo touch up that's been done in the entire history of photography",
"I saw this on fb and looked it up. It is a parody account. It was created to post these and one of the other posts is talking about how it is a new art while using a graphic taken from a cartoon. All a joke. ",
"I had a feeling, the faces all look pretty much the same down to the odd toothy smiles. I've had my fails, but no way anyone would send this to a customer and not just go with unretouched originals.",
"The post was made making fun of the overly photoshopped images that seem commonplace. It took mere seconds on google to establish that when I saw the original. ",
"\"In whiteness protection\"",
"At first I thought this was one of those \"change the faces to protect the innocent\" sort of things. ",
"Calling all stray dogs! Come to park and get your picture taken with your very own family. ",
"https://i.imgur.com/Q8egtHJ.jpg"
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The worst photo touch up I've ever seen
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"Outside",
" I can't help you beyond that this looks East Coast. Maybe New York.\n\n That's the best I can do. Good luck.",
"/u/Trying_To_Adult_101, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must not ask for general information or feedback. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/Trying_To_Adult_101&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q1knc/my_father_in_what_i_think_is_the_1960s_can/?context=10\\))",
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My father in what I think is the 1960s. Can someone tell me where this was taken!?
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[
"Nice try, Bacon Bros.",
"You whore. I’m in Florida, USA. I just worked out, so I’m wicked hungry. And you’re showing me this shit?!? \n\nI hate you right now. \n\nEdit: also feel better. ",
"They delivered to Lyttelton for me once, and it was somehow faster than I could possibly drive into ChCh. BBros is awesome, and the food was pretty tasty. ",
"Do you want more customers?\n\nBecause this is how you get more customers.",
"Hehehe I wish! Their food is amazing. \n \nEDIT: I fixed there to their :)",
"Hope you start feeling better soon man",
"I don't know if they still do delivery themselves but they do through ubereats!",
"They even ran out of ink while writing the note, but they never ran out of love. ",
"SORRY!",
"I need to go to NEw Zealand now ",
"Their pen ran out of ink but I can’t help but feel like the handwriting changed too. Like two people wrote this. ",
"Just some bros being bros. Bacon Bros.",
"We hope that this yummy food can help the wonlol seem a cutie brighter? \n\nwut\n\nEDIT: Ohh, world and little",
"Matches up well to me",
"If I lived there, I'd make sure I got a few. They even do a burger with beetroot. Perhaps our Kiwi cousins aren't as uncivilised as we thought! ",
"Awesome! ",
"Where?",
">.co.nz\n\nClue is in the tld",
"Nothing tastes quite as sweet as pity food.",
"Bros being bros!",
"I definitely will be returning there a bunch. That's great personalized customer service. They really do look out for their bros. ",
"Picture of a note. Amazing. ",
"Kiwis are awesome people. ",
"Kia kaha cuzzy, glad to see the kiwi cultures still alive and well down there.",
"I love New Zealand. Family and I were driving and it got late. The hotel we found didnt have staff 24/7. The janitor let us into a room and just said to pay in the morning because he didn't want us to have to sleep in the car. ",
"One of the best breakfast/brunch places of all time. A real asset to Christchurch. ",
"*their",
"'Twas a Joke... your comment said \"There food is amazing.\" Instead of \"Their\".",
"they are bros, after all",
"New Zillund",
"Thanks :) I always get it wrong.",
"Max, the person who you replied to, is not OP.",
"Do they deliver to Australia?",
"Didnt think a note on a pizza box would make me cry but here we are",
"A method that can sometimes help - There contains here, so it's to do with location! ",
"Is this an Archer reference or a common turn of phrase or whatever? Because I honestly thought people were vaguely referencing Archer but someone tonight told me otherwise.",
"The guys also do something wierd whenever a burger is ordered, check their burger [menu](https://baconbrothers.co.nz/menu). Get like a compliment, bro hug, or jazz hands or something. Cool place! The whole little high eatery this place is in is awesome!",
"It's probably Archer more often than not.",
"Just good to see. ",
"That wasn't my comment bro. ",
"I stayed around the corner from them in 2015, on holiday (vacation for the Americans) I wish I had known about the place then. Love NZ by the way would move there in an instant if I could find a reasonable paying job. (I work with some Kiwi's who are in Australia due to the higher wages, I assume they also like our much shittier internet)",
"This is an ad.",
"Oh thats neat :-)!! I will try remember. I missed out on regular schooling, my goals were a bit different. Like talking and other things. But do love to try my best and learn. :-)",
"Nice try Bacon Bros ",
"See? Bacon makes everything better!",
"Wouldn't we all like some kiwi-accented, ~~broad shouldered man~~ **Shredded Ellis** to come to our home, knock on our door, greet us with a loving yet smouldering smile and hand us our deliverance from hunger in an attractive and inviting satchel filled with burger made from freshly baked bun and 100% angus beef topped with bacon all topped off with the wafting scent of mesquite?\n\nI know I do; **what about you?**",
"It's always Archer. ",
"Nice advertising bro",
"Aww that's lovely! I've thought several times in the past week it'd be nice to have someone deliver food...problem is I'd like it delivered to my bedroom door. ",
"It's an Archer quote. You were correct. ",
"Also, *their* has an I, indicating person. *They're* is just a contraction.",
"It's choice, bro! (or cuz!)\n\n- FTFY",
"Love doesn’t quit. ",
"[Let's not get carried away now. ](https://i.imgur.com/j5JYK1o.gifv)",
"[Here's the original Archer quote.](https://youtu.be/VU0GYSA1POs)",
"I have lived here my whole life and had never heard of Bacon Bros. You've given me something new to try next week, thank you!",
"What are you, Canadian?",
"So glad I ate two or three times there while traveling NZ. I love the country and the people. I'm sure this is not an ad, as they are #1 on TripAdvisor with five stars.",
"What extra food did they deliver?",
"I work at the supermarket that the owners come into buy the food for restaraunt they are the coolest group of people I've met ",
"Do you want a customer for life? Because that's how you get a customer for life.",
"The burgers on the menu are nice but have ingredients like \"free hug\" \"free compliment\" \"fist bump\" etc. \nIt's super draining to just wanna order a burger and have a dude trying to complement you on \"what a nice beard you have\". Fuck off I haven't shaven for 5 days and I just want a burger... No I don't want to see a dance move with my burger. Doing that kinda shit with every order just seems so fake and forced. \n",
"Ordering food from restaurants right before closing is a great way to get extra food! Otherwise they toss it out in a dumpster. ",
"I know it says Matty on the note, but in my head I read it as “Murray” just so I could get into the NZ accent ",
"/r/BrosBeingBros ",
"Hey Matty, i remember you from an askreddit thread some time ago, I still sometimes check your Twitter :) By the way, are you planing to write another book? \n\nDon’t worry, everything will be alright again. You are a great person. :)",
"I want food that comes with love letters....I'm jealous",
"It's okay, have some free food",
"in what TV world do you live and how do I get there?",
"They called it Bacon Bros, success will come either way.",
"Sounds like might traveling? If you are and goo to Queenstown you should hit up Fergburger!",
"That’s such a clean website, that’s how all restaurants should be ",
"Take exit 33",
"They may have got pissed that they had to change pens (plus writing with a dying pen sucks depending on the type of pen) so they rushed through the second half. I go through a lot of pens at work and I do that all the time...",
"Enjoy the spit!",
"I can’t quit you.",
"Hahaha, they have a burger called ‘Ben from accounts’.\nHauraki/ACC were amazing when I lived in NZ!",
"Graceful Emma is the one I got! It was yummy!",
":-) my order had free fries n bbq sauce in it. They were sooooooooo good. And decent amount. Whole burger box full.",
"Whats a contraction :-)!?",
"Hehe. Thats funny as my name is Matty but also I am a girl :-) never been called murray before",
"Matty! :-) yes! https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5q9ppf/autistic_people_of_reddit_what_is_autism_really/ This one was popular. I hope to make another book. I already wrote it. But need help to make it a book. Its called What is Love and I tried to think all the things that make up love. Its hard cause love is a strange thing to me.\n \n I try to be okay. But always problems. :-) im a strange girl with a strange life. I wish sometimes my life was more regular. With less stress.",
"If you see them in person can you thank them for me :-)! I have never been able to go in myself. I hope to one day someone can take me. ",
"*They're* is simply \"they are\" but shorter.",
"So Kevin bacon has nothing to do with this...?",
"Oh :> I always avoid that one. So much to remember! I will try my best! Thank you so very much!",
"This is the kind of thing that makes customers for life",
"Ahh, my autocorrect turned you into Marty 😅sorry ",
"You remind me of Data from Star Trek: The Next Generation. It's a good thing, one of my favourite characters.\n\nKeep learning!",
"Fuck off",
"I wonder if they deliver to Texas. I could use some bacony goodness right now.",
"Damn, nz",
"That is so funny! :) I like Data!! I have a lot of disabilities but I do try my best :) I really do like learning and doing better. I even try to home school myself and have friends go over it to see if I did it right.",
"Click on my username to get to my profile, somewhere there should be a \"friend\" button. Click that, and my username will always be highlighted.",
"[Murray](https://youtu.be/vDjJc_ZH6dk)",
"There is a Bacon Brothers in Greeneville, SC (unrelated). It is amazing. Now ihave another reason to want to do a NZ trip. ",
"Definitely check out Little High. As well as Bacon Bros, there are all sorts of delicious little eateries in there, and the whole place has a great vibe. \nIf you go for a weekend lunch, expect it to be pretty packed though. ",
":) Am confused, doesn't friends mean you know each other?",
"The Bacon Bros I know of are very different https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacon_Brothers_%28gangsters%29",
"Typically. But here on Reddit, being friends also means said username is highlighted (at least, when not Original Poster/OP), it also allows you to have a \"sub\" with just your friends posts. So, if there is somebody you particularly like following and want to catch all their posts, friend em.\n\nLastly, it's not like Facebook, the other person won't ever know unless you tell em.",
"Oh okay :) Why should I friend you? I am wondering.",
"- I’m siiicccckkkk. Neeeeeed baaaaaccccooooonnnnn. \n\n- We’ll be right there. ",
"If only so that somebody friendly is better visible. Entirely up to you.",
"It was a turn of phrase, until it became an archer quote.",
"I came across this on Imgur and thought someones Granny had written them this note so was pretty surprised to see Bacon Bros at the bottom haha.",
"I think it was an archer reference that slowly has made its way into popular vernacular.",
"Just my personal experience with the Kiwis I have met and known, long before I saw this post.",
"Gotta get me a Ben from Accounts and keep that receipt",
"Given that type of culture, this company will be successful. Companies that actually provide good customer service and products, and that demonstrate a concern for the public and that of their customers, will get my business 100% of the time.",
"Brilliant public relations is probably more accurate",
"Can't stand these \"artisan\" burger places charging 15$ for a cheeseburger and fries. Bacon Bros was no better than Wisconsin, Ferg, fuel, beers, etc they are all just generic hipster fish n chip shops(except fnc shop burgers are all %100 generic and disgusting). I hope someone starts a decent dirty burger style place in chch sometime soon.",
"Its 13 for the one I get. Its much cheaper than I would pay at mc donalds to feel full.",
"They have such amazing service, and care so much for their customers!! ",
"we don't need to advertise when our customers do it for us ;)",
"I'm a pretty awkward panda and they have never forced any of that on that me - and I've never had to ask them not to!\n\nThey are usually pretty good at reading body language.\n\nIt's something they've been doing since they started at the market, they are just super friendly and want to make the day better for people. Cheer up mate.",
"Mate i know the founders. they legit train them to be bros and only hire naturals. if you don't look like you want/need a hug they wont give you one. \n\nThere are girl bros aswell",
"Christchurch local here, bacon Bros is amazing!! Such friendly service and the little high eatery just has such a cool vibe to it. Definitely my favourite burgers in the city follower by burgers and beers I think. The happy burger is my go to :)",
"That’s what I love about local restaurants like this, they don’t skimp on the fries (and they’re really good!)",
"I got a discount on my burger for having a “sweet as beard”",
":D Emergency Bacon, that's exactly how world should be!"
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I ordered delivery close to closing of this place called bacon bros in Christchurch New Zealand, told them I was super sorry and that I wasn't doing to well and just really needed food. They gave me extra food free and this note was on my order.
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"I was wearing a t-shirt at work yesterday (1/11) and today I was wearing many layers. The temperature dropped 5 degrees on my way into work today.\n\nThis weather is nuts!",
"That looks like Minnesota too lol",
"The snow on the railing posts didn't melt in between! /r/conspiracy \n\n/s",
"It was 82 degrees warmer in VT today than it was last Sunday. We got up to 61 today. Tomorrow's high is 41... at midnight. It will be below freezing by 2am, 20 degrees by 6am, 10 degrees by 10pm, and we're supposed to get 10\" of snow.",
"The 4 seasons: summer, winter, winter and winters ",
"I got home from work last night around 4 am. High 40's and raining. Woke up at 8. Under 20, 3 inches of snow and a sheet of ice on all the roads.",
"Ohio here, same thing but still snowing, about half a foot so far",
"Shit... I thought that was Illinois!",
"Missouri here. It was 58° on Wednesday, 7° on Thursday. I need more stability in my life than my environment is providing. ",
"We got 2 days of rain back to back and the 2-3 feet of snow covering my front lawn and whatever ice I couldn't break in the driveway is all gone. Feels pretty good.",
"In Albert, Canada that would be 11AM, 1PM, and 5 PM.",
"This morning in Ohio it started off 56 degrees, within the next 7 hours it became 15 degrees, freezing Rain, and tonight, windy snow",
"Shit I'm from Michigan but I live in Memphis and it was in the 60s yesterday here and then this morning it was in the 20s with snow and sleet and ice.",
"And peoe say golbal climate change isn't a thing. ",
"Get rid of the trees, replace with desolate prairie, and this could easily be Wyoming. ",
"In Canada I had a 25 degree C swing in 12 hours",
"Very Indiana as well but we're attached. (:",
"Damn!! And I thought our weather was fucked up here in St. Louis. We've dodged a few bullets over here the past week, an ice storm just missed us last weekend, and yesterday a storm that could've dropped nearly 8-12 inches of snow hit just south east of us. Now watch us get like a foot of snow next week or something.",
"What snow? Look again ;)",
"windy snow is an understatement. I was driving home through this an hour ago. it's 98% blizzard out there. I had my bedroom window open last night too. ",
"Sw missouri here. It dropped 30 degrees in 2 hours 2 days ago. That was wild",
"Looks very pretty from AZ",
"If yo don’t like the weather wait five minutes ",
"It was good birthday gift for me from Mother Nature. Got to walk to class in a T-shirt. ",
"Bannister post closest to the camera is growing.",
"If I didn’t also live in Michigan, I’d absolutely call bullshit..\n\n...People were in T-shirt’s and shorts yesterday. Today, it took 25 minutes to scrape the ice off of my car.",
"Upper Peninsula of Michigan checking in: high 30s to single digits (I think it was 4 degrees when I drove home from work) in the afternoon. #Yooperlife ",
"Yesterday was so awesome. Let me know what I have to look forward to... After all this subzero bullshit is done",
"A question coming from someone who has never seen snow in my life (37 years). How does the snow do that? Cover the ground then melt away in less than a day. I always thought snow stayed for weeks after a fall if not for the rest of winter.",
"Can relate, live in Missouri.",
"San Diego, CA here. It was 75° and sunny today. Then some fog rolled in and I contemplated putting on a sweater. ",
"Albertan here, we have some weird weather but I haven't seen drastic changes like this (in my lifetime / in person). Got so cold this week that my buddy shattered his window by closing the door a little to hard. There was a chip in it already so that was the main cause but still..Jesus. ",
"Come to Sunny California. If the fire doesn't get you the flood surely will.",
"MO checking in as well. Thursday afternoon I left my house while it was in the 60's. 30 minutes later sitting at the coffee shop.. it was in the 40's. I had no idea what I should be doing. Later that night I was chiseling a layer of ice off my car.",
"I live in Tampa, FL. It's commonly said that if you don't like the weather, either wait fifteen minutes or just cross the street. But we don't ever get this sort of weather extremes! ",
"Here in Kentucky it was 65 degrees yesterday, and then today we got 4-5 inches!",
"Wow your yard is awesome",
"I remember when I was a kid there was an ice storm that was so bad the trees started exploding and one of our barns collapsed from the weight on the roof. Then there was another one a couple years ago. Bet you're looking forward to that again!",
"North county Escondido here. Was 77. Work in Oceanside and was overcast and foggy. High 70s. Crazy weather!!!",
"A week or more of 0 degree temps, followed by 3-4 days of 30-50 degree temps, followed by a drastic drop to 20 degrees.",
"Yeah, this fuckdiculous winter can be done now.",
"In Michigan, can confirm... Weather is being Fucky. ",
"Texas here, I know of children, who dont know what snow is.",
"My snow plow crew and I have gone out like 7 times already and still got 2 months of this to go",
"Said every state ever hahahahaha ",
"I've lived in many states. Everyone says this. ",
"Some state here, it snowed then it melted, then it snowed again. This is very unique to my state.",
"But it’s true in mine. ",
"In New Jersey it was under 10 degrees for a week then went up to 65 and is going back down to 15 tonight. (It's 55 right now)",
"> A week or more of 0 degree temps, followed by 3-4 days of 30-50 degree temps, followed by a drastic drop to 20 degrees.\n\nOk, I had to convert first. Thanks for the reply.\n\"A week or more of -17C temps, followed by 3-4 days of -1C to 10C temps, followed by a drastic drop to -6C.\"",
"Ohio too. It was 63 degrees where I’m at yesterday....so far tonight we’ve gotten like 5 inches of snow on top of ice",
"Same sheet up here in the Canadiaz ",
"Yeah. Lots of here in the States will use Fahrenheit by default instead of Celsius. The numbers bounce a lot more because of that.\n\nFrom Michigan, I also can confirm the OP is 100% accurate in what happened. My windshield blades were FROZEN to my windshield. Took 20 minutes of warming up the vehicle before I could carefully unstick them. ... two days ago, I was in shorts/t-short. >.<",
"In Edmonton, it's gonna be 22 degrees warmer tomorrow. From -21 to +1. ",
"Gotta melt away the old snow to make room for the new snow.",
"Nice! I lived in Memphis for 4ish years. Do NOT miss the drivers, though.",
"I live in MI. Can confirm. ",
"Honestly it just seems to be true in the states. In Europe the weather was the same all the time except it may drizzle on occasion, hell in my girlfriend's home country the high is 76 and the low is 72 and I mean for the week, like those are the highs and lows of every single day that I can see on the Apple weather app atm.",
"Fellow st.louisian I can confirm this. The snow has been now forecasted for Sunday night Monday morning. Sucks for me as I work overnight and when I'm at my peak tiredness I have to deal with idiots on 270 then 64 then 170. ",
"Yeah, Thursday being in the 50s was awesome. Glad I woke up to a sea of white again...",
"I literally went into work today at 38 degrees and left work 4 hours later to 22 degrees.",
"Did you really have to mow?",
"And now everyone knows why I have crippling depression in the winter. This place is a mind fuck. ",
"Way to true man.",
"My last ever winter in Michigan looked a lot like this.\n\nI grew up in Memphis, TN and move to MI with my mom when I was 13 or so, and I never fully acclimated to the cold. Always hated being cold, hated the snow, hated the whole winter scene.\n\nSo I'm stuck there at 19 years old and trying to figure out my life and get shit together, and the snow this year decides that it's going to keep on. I'm focused on \"make it through the winter alive\" (because it was really a survival matter at that point, I spent a little time that winter homeless), and every time I thought we were done, it came back. \n\nIt sounds trivial now but at the time, it was so goddamn brutal.\n\nI had control of so few things in my life (or at least didn't realize what I was in control of yet) and was still 100% sold on the geographical cure (I lived in 7 different states between the ages of 18 and 21), but waiting for spring to roll around was literally like watching for the light at the end of the tunnel. It was all I could think about, it was a straight up instinctual drive.\n\nAnd for fucking MONTHS, Michigan denied it to me.\n\nWe had our first full melt in February. Comical. Nobody believed that.\n\nThen came the first one in March. Nobody believed that one either, but it lasted a week, followed by one solid snow, followed by another week long melt. OK, maybe this is it.\n\nNOPE.\n\nIt snowed almost the entire month of April. I hated every fucking second of it.\n\nThe April snow kept up into the first week of May before it finally gave up. Once that started melting, everyone thought \"OK, that has to be the end of it, we're almost closer to next winter than last.\" I was, of course, among those people.\n\nWe had about a week and a half of fantastic sunshine and \"spring\" (read: early summer) weather before we got something like 14 inches of snow over 3 days in the third week of May. This whole situation probably seems comical but if I'd had access to a firearm at the time, I'd probably have shot myself. \n\nThat's when I decided I was fucking done with Michigan. Fuck that state and its weather.\n\nTL;DR: Winter depression is no joke, check your friends in the north. That shit fucks with people.",
"Ah! A fellow Escondidoan. It gets mighty cold here at night. 50 degrees is miserable. /s",
"Well he would like to be able to drink. ",
"Absolute same here near Montreal. Had snow drift piles 5 feet high in our yard. All gone in a day of 12c (50’s) temp and nonstop rain. Now receiving a foot of snow at -11 and it’ll be -30 and worse with windchill by Sunday. Those last two are 12 and -22 in F. It’s been an insane Winter already, before this. Worst I’ve seen really. Records being set for cold streak AND warm days within less than a month of each other, daring to before I was born.\n\nEdit: Dating to. I’m not daring the weather ever again. This is all my fault.",
"To be fair, our states could be countries, so that may skew it. This is just Michigan, although I'm one state south from there in Ohio. The past 3 days have been identical to the op's ",
"The fuck is wrong with y'alls weather?",
"In Alberta here, it was -50 yesterday. It's -1 tomorrow.",
"Where does the snow go? Does it melt and get soak into the ground?",
"In Orlando it's forecasted to drop from 75 to 40 Sunday night :/",
"Using windchill is cheating",
"Central Indiana here, we’re on the same boat ",
"The other day it was 40 C difference (+12C and -28C) between two places in Norway that are only 280 km apart. So about a 4 hour drive. Mountains are crazy. \n\n",
"Was the same in Indiana. Had the heat off and windows open even. ",
"When I lived in Michigan I would always hear that we had two seasons: winter and construction",
"Also happens to Alberta, Canada a lot too... Just less green when it melts.",
"Oddly enough the same thing happened here in Alabama. It even snowed and schools shut down for it",
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"Pure midwest....not just Michigan",
"You're no better than the dumbass who says climate change is bullshit because it's cold. A couple days of unseasonably warm or cold weather has nothing to do with climate change.",
"not california!",
"I heard the Canadian version as:\n\nWinter \nMore Winter \nStill Winter \nConstruction",
"Well your car wasn't wearing a t-shirt, was it?",
"Depends on how deep the snow is. It doesn't have to get all that deep to put a thin cover over everything. Do you live somewhere that gets frost early on winter mornings, and it's gone soon after sunrise? Kinda like that.",
"Damn, I avoid 270 like the plague. Fuck that noise.",
"Eh it's not bad when I go into work at 10 but I get off just in time for morning rush hour. 270 scares the crap out of me but it is the fastest way home for me. I mean I could take Lindbergh but all those stop lights...",
"Northern IL here. We saw 55 degrees in the morning and afternoon that switched to 10 degrees at night....this is a weird fucking winter.",
"I knew we were doing something wrong here!",
"I honestly don’t know how we survive /s",
"I remember one specific day, going to school in Michigan: \n\nIn the morning we had to dig the car out from almost a foot of snow, when we got out of class at 2:30 it was 72°, the sun was shining and all the snow was gone, by nightfall we had 3 inches of snow again."
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Pure Michigan
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"Christ, this belongs in r/trashy",
"Lol what are you making fun of here?",
"Complete sheethead",
"Someone who probably rapes sheep.",
"But it says no sheetheads?",
"He doesn't rape *sheets*.",
"Well, I for one am glad he was born in only one country. ",
"Problem solved. I'm glad you seen it too.",
"This motherfucker's family tree is a Festivus pole.",
"He strikes me as the sort with lots of friends.",
"Pssst hey truck driver, we can see your state of mental health ",
"I guess in his mind, he doesn't need friends as long as he has a dent-faced stepdaughter with no teeth.",
"I mean I get it, he’s right. You have to draw the line somewhere with any of these animals. Quit trying to think you are different because you come from a dry desert climate. I don’t care where they were born or where they come from, they are still just African animals. They can’t help it, it’s just in their DNA to always be slow inferior creatures. I just wish they’d leave it for those who can handle it and go join the rest of their kind off to the side. I know it’s a free country and all but there’s just some things that shouldn’t be aloud and we all suffer because of it. Evolution simply isn’t fast enough for these animals to catch up and this modern world is growing too fast for others to be forced to wait. It’s time to just accept the nature of the reality and step aside to let others pass. Face the facts, face the truth and come to terms with it that camels should be parked outside with the giraffes, elephants and all the other animals that have height restrictions and cannot exceed 25mph. He’s 100% right, there should be no camels in the drive thru at McDonalds. Aside from that this guy seems like a huge racist douche.",
"Goddamn that threw me for a loop. Anyone who's gonna downvote read all the way through."
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Seen this pickup truck on my way to work.
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"For a famously humorless country, the Germans sure do love their satire...",
"No satire. Der Spiegel is one of Germany's most critically acclaimed newspapers.",
"I somehow doubt that they did that cover in order to straight-facedly reflect their reporting, however.",
"In hindsight, they were spot-on though",
"Not straight facedly. Grim facedly.",
"And this is from almost a year ago. He is living up to all the worst things said about him.",
"“There is room in America and brotherhood for all who support our institutions and aid in our development. But those who come to disturb our peace and dethrone are our laws are aliens and enemies forever.”",
"No, its comedy. ",
"Please google \"Der Spiegel\"."
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"Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses." We know what you did.
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[
"Come play with us Jay",
"Real spooky ",
" Would not be able to handle that...",
"Time to check out. ",
"Some interior designer was having fun when they spec'd that. ",
"Get a Big Wheel, stat",
"Stay out of room 237.",
"All work and no play makes Jay a dull boy. ",
"Needs more axe",
"AND the red doors?? Don't open any of them.",
"The Poconos?",
"The Parker!\nI’ve never noticed the similarity ;)",
"Get out! Its happening!",
"There’s an extinguisher, but where’s the fire axe?",
"https://isaackdriftwood.deviantart.com/art/The-Shining-Danny-Come-Play-With-Us-466039429",
"If you see a guy in a fursuit blowing someone, RUN",
"I would be remiss if I didn't take this opportunity to remind reddit that [this exists.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0)",
"\"All work and no play makes Jay a dull boy\"",
"The Shinning! Do ya want to get sued? ",
"Wtf is that jay!?",
"Wasnt the Shining filmed in an actual hotel?"
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The hotel I work in has the same carpet as the Overlook Hotel in The Shining.
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"Given who the Germans have as their PM just now and given the mess she is making of that country, this is rather a case of a pot calling a kettle black…",
"The chancellor?",
"Now that's funny! I guess the best humor is found in truth.",
"I like the \"knuckle dragger\" touch. ",
"They got the tie length spot on too!",
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Cover of the German magazine "Der Spiegel" - spot on
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"MacGuyver 4/7. Nice work. ",
"Damn, what are those wooden building things called!? I used to have those when I was a wee lad. Totally forgot about those things...",
"Tinker toys"
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When you 2 yr old son wakes from a dream wanting a "Helicopter-Garbagetruck"
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[
"It's like everyone is wearing a hideous mask.",
"You look like extras in the Ocarina of Time live action film....",
"I cannot believe she had the balls to hand that to you",
"Whats wrong with these?? They look fine !",
"I can’t believe this is real. ",
"Somebody should tell her about Photoshop's dodge tool.",
"This is horrifying.",
"Look at the bright side, you could very well be the next Sims family. ",
"Well, she to be fair she doesn’t really *have* any balls.",
"Wii like our family photos",
"They look like the Mii family.",
"I really just can't believe that someone would think it is okay to hand these over. I feel like this must be fake. It has to be or humanity is done. ",
"No kidding. I have no real photography experience and I don't think I could produce something this terrible if I tried. They could have done better with a selfie stick.",
"y'all are SIMS I take it",
"There’s no way this is real, please link her Instagram ",
"[She learned from the best](http://abcnews.go.com/images/News/ht_spanish_painting_jesus_badly_restored_thg_120822_wblog.jpg)",
"Maybe someone should tell her that she can hire someone on Fiverr to retouch these better than she did, probably for 5 bucks.",
"She put her name on them?",
"[Was it this lady?](https://www.thelocal.es/20130813/they-didnt-let-me-finish-ecce-homo-artist)",
"LIES",
"Stop throwing shades at her. ",
"If they'd looked at the bright side maybe the shadows wouldn't have been a problem",
"This is going to be a meme tomorrow. ",
"Nice meme",
"If it's a professional photographer you should link to their website so we can avoid them... ",
"[She may have brain damage. A minor injury in her case.](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2e/2a/0c/2e2a0ce3d78c8d719d0d0979016b261e--the-cramps-late-at-night.jpg)",
"Is she gonna photoshop those too?",
"Source: http://mashable.com/2018/01/12/funny-photoshop-fail-family-photos/#QPfAlOplIZqB",
"Some people have zero respect for fine art.",
"This is solid fucking gold. ",
"These do not seem to be your photos, judging by your comment history.",
"7 days",
"Calling r/TotallyNotRobots , is this one of yours?",
"Holy crap, you're [The Putterman Family!](https://youtu.be/E_X25g_EmSE)",
"Hi, quick question. Why did she need to touch up? Did you request touch ups? \n\nSurely the original photos would have been fine.. I'm confused. ",
"Came here to make sure this was included, came away satisfied.",
"Look at the bottom...Her name is actually on each picture! \n\nBecause she's... proud of them, I guess?",
"That's creepy af",
"What? No. Those can't be real.",
"*Kinda like society, y'know?*",
"For your own sanity, OP... do NOT Google 'The Story of Davidito.'",
" Worth every penny just for the 'internet gold'. The extra pics are great too! Thank you so much O.P.",
"Edit: Corrections. \n\nBiography from the photographer's LinkedIn:\n\nHello -\n\nI began photographing at age 10 . . . I took photos (posed and non-posed) of my dog, a Chihuahua who had absolutely no aversion to allowing me to play dress-up with her as well. I also enjoyed photographing family holiday get-togethers and the many accoutrements of Disneyland. \n\nMy cat has and continues to serve as my model and for a cat, poses very well. I also enjoyed photographing aspects of architectural interiors and exteriors; and over the past ten years I have found a niche with classic cars as well.\n\nIn addition to portraits, I also offer architectural photography that includes realty property listings, and am amenable to photographing events like festivals, school reunions and fundraisers. \n\nMy return to school for education in the digital arts began with a year of graphic design classes before committing to my earning my certificate in digital photography. My post-high school photography classes facilitated an easy navigation through Photoshop. \n\nI also offer brochures that I design myself, as well as greeting cards, save-the-date and thank-you postcards, invitations and business cards. \n\nFor price quotes, feel free to contact me via LinkedIn and provide me with your contact information.\n\nI thank you for your business.\n\nLesa Hall\n",
"I don’t think OP was handed anything.\n\nOriginal post from Facebook:https://i.imgur.com/dZHcxDr.jpg\n\nIt’s also making the rounds in /r/DelusionalArtists ",
"for me, this would totally be worth the money just for the story that came along with it. yes i would have other people at my house, and i would show them the pictures on the wall while drinking a beer and tell them the whole story while they drink a beer i have them",
"This your family then?\n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/VgwNknE.jpg",
"Was Medusa the photographer?",
"How do you even fuck up this bad? Unless you were trying really, really hard?",
"Well if she was never taught how to retouch photos, maybe these pictures weren’t actually retouched at all.",
"It's not. It was from a viral FB post that I guarantee was a joke by the people who got the initial edited photos from the photographer. They thought it would be hilarious to post and boom..here we are. ",
"Well, I'll be...you have lost a lot of hair.",
"It's from a Facebook post going around.",
"Does she do funerals? ",
"Our first AI family!",
"I didn't see that, the faces were that distracting! ",
"I couldn't find a website, but I could find a LinkedIn profile. \n\n > Hello -\n\nI began photographing at age 10 . . . I took photos (posed and non-posed) of my dog, a Chihuahua who had absolutely no aversion to allowing me to play dress-up with her as well. I also enjoyed photographing family holiday get-togethers and the many accoutrements of Disneyland. \n\nMy cat has and continues to serve as my model and for a cat, poses very well. I also enjoyed photographing aspects of architectural interiors and exteriors; and over the past ten years I have found a niche with classic cars as well.\n\nIn addition to portraits, I also offer architectural photography that includes realty property listings, and am amenable to photographing events like festivals, school reunions and fundraisers. \n\nMy return to school for education in the digital arts began with a year of graphic design classes before committing to my earning my certificate in digital photography. My post-high school photography classes facilitated an easy navigation through Photoshop. \n\nI also offer brochures that I design myself, as well as greeting cards, save-the-date and thank-you postcards, invitations and business cards. \n\nFor price quotes, feel free to contact me via LinkedIn and provide me with your contact information.\n\nI thank you for your business.\n\nLesa Hall\n",
"*smooooooth faaaacesss*",
"GET THE PITCHFORKS AND THE TIKI TORCHES!!",
"https://i.imgur.com/30VSm5Z.jpg",
"Doesn't the camera do like 99.9999777% of the work?",
"> TIKI TORCHES!!\n\nMaybe leave those at home. ",
"I know, I wish my family was that happy in photographs ",
"I found that as well, a few other sites are running the story as well ",
"My fucking god. While I understand the article is from a [mashable source](http://mashable.com/2018/01/12/funny-photoshop-fail-family-photos/#I4JQsQ0EYZqP), the shadows could have been dealt with by either using reflector or a cheap off camera flash setup as taught on [Strobist Lighting 101.](http://strobist.blogspot.com/2006/03/lighting-101.html)\n\nThe problem (I know of 1 person locally that's pulling shit like this) is that people buy a big DSLR and immediately think they're now good at it. Second, if you can't retouch a photo at all other than adding what appears to be cardboard faces, spend an evening sitting down and watching editing videos, it's not too terribly difficult and there's free alternatives to Photoshop and/or Lightroom (Gimp, Darktable, RawTherapee). Third, she shot this in midday harsh light. If you're doing that you have to have something to correct it with. Even just a large reflector could remove the dark shadows off their faces if she wanted to spend all of 30 bucks, though I'd still wait till later in the day.\n\nIt's fine to be new to it. It's fine to admit you have faults, we all do but when people are paying for family shots, got dressed up nicely, went to the location you should be able to provide something better than this. If not, practice on friends and family before charging others.\n",
"This is scary.",
"That'll replace the whale in my nightmares.",
"Not sure if this would be more suitable for /r/thatHappened or /r/quityourbullshit ",
"It looks like something straight out of Tim and Eric ",
"I thought the acid kicked in a bit early when I first saw this. ",
"Yeah, they'll be on sale wherever you go, it's wintertime.",
"I bet she went to the Art Institute.",
"Ok. I don’t get it. ",
"Damn...",
"My wife saw this on a Facebook photography group and I bet her that it would be on Reddit. Sure enough it was. lol",
"The title of the post is in quotes, so it's a fair bet he wasn't trying to bs anyone into thinking it was him. ",
"Money well spent. ",
"OK.Do you know the return policy on walmart?Asking for a friend...",
"Oh hell no! I would punch that photographer in the face. But I know this is just a joke so, move on.",
"OP isn’t claiming this is them, which is why the title is in quotes. ",
"There is no fuckin way this is true.",
"Love the watermark “IMagery...”. Is it a pun on IM, or just capitalized two letters cause why not?",
"*moist*",
"Reminds me of that guy from Nathan For You who does age progression photoshop. ",
"A proper flash with a diffuser sock thing, even right on the hotshoe, could’ve offered perfectly adequate fill flash, assuming the metering was set up passably.\n\nWith a DSLR, you check your goddamned production photos and adjust then reshoot until they’re passable.\n\nGarbage in, garbage out, unless you’re photoshop jesus.",
"Maybe that’s what you actually look like, and you are finally waking up to your delusion. Congrats!",
"You guys look fuckin' great. Don't let anyone tell you different. ",
"I did the same thing, lol",
"I don't see what the issue is. They look pretty great to me!\n",
"Did you get something good out of the bet?",
"Looks about right.",
"George Costanza? http://i.imgur.com/RAt7x.jpg",
"How the photo exchange went down...\n[\"Oh Jesus! Oh God!\"](https://giphy.com/gifs/l49JWHVM6avW0hHXi/fullscreen)",
"How many places are you going to post this",
"Did she copy and paste the faces on?",
"/r/oddlyterrifying ",
"Looks like one of those things you would see on those fake dramatized ghost shows.",
"Still my favorite thing that's ever happened in the world.",
"I might sue. ",
"I agree. Hell, the Amazon basics flash (which I think is just a Neewer) is only 20 something dollars. 250-25 = 225 profit.\n\nI don't even understand what was done here in terms of editing *attempt* though. I usually can break down a photo a bit (e.g. raised shadows, clarity, etc) but I honestly don't know. Almost as if it was done in MS Paint, selecting one skin color somewhere and then just painting over everything but the eyes, nostrils and mouths.",
"It's whiteface. This is all you have to do to trick Trump into appoving immigration citizens.",
"Oh my fuck Hahahhaha ",
"Selfie-sticks are *literally* the worst invention ever, amirite guyz?! Lel",
"That better be in your living room. Framed.",
"this made me laugh out loud. You should send them to all of your family and friends. I would like one. Def send out for reddit secret santa",
"Bullshit anywhere is bullshit everywhere",
"Sue her",
"On the other hand it's always nice to have replacements when someone breaks one while drunk at a BBQ.",
"They all remind me of the Happy Mask Salesman.",
"Selfie sticks are *literally* the weirdest thing to get so defensive about. ",
"Why didn't she do the dogs?",
"At least you can tell that they're related",
"r/mildlyterrifying",
"Please frame this and put it on the first object people see when they walk into your home.",
"Omg ive been trying to figure out why it looked familiar!! Thank you for that!",
"Fanned Synths",
"I... I took graphic design for two years... I’m not an expert, but... I’m sure I could do better",
"That’s totally blue and black, not gold and white",
"This should be under funny and if it isn’t yet i promise you someone will make it so xD!! Omg i bust out laghing so hard im sorry",
"Nightmare fuel",
"From Lesa Hall's Linkedin: \"My post-high school photography classes facilitated an easy navigation through Photoshop. \"",
"http://www.ksdk.com/article/news/weird/family-shares-hilarious-results-of-professional-photo-shoot/63-507647509",
"*hits blunt*",
"Waiting to find out what it's a viral ad for... It's gonna be a TV show or a movie or something. ",
"What a beautiful family you have there, you’re truly blessed!",
"Oh Christ that's unsettling",
"It looks like they are wearing masks of human skin.",
"This is made up.",
"You could have done better with an iPhone and selfie stick or cheap tripod. I am a bit of a photographer myself and this is trash.",
"That is worth every penny is ya ask me. ",
"Art",
"Lel",
"\n\nfor me, this would thoroughly be justified regardless of the cash only for the story that joined it. indeed I would have other individuals at my home, and I would demonstrate to them the photos on the divider while drinking a lager and reveal to them the entire story while they drink a brew I have them ",
"Its the internet. Nothing is real. ",
"Taken from Facebook and posted to Reddit ",
"bulllshiiit",
"and fake",
"Is it?",
"I think its really good.",
"I don't believe this is real.",
"Its the \"Breath of the Wild\" Filter\n",
"wait what",
"I would pay 250$ for this family photo put it right were everyone sees it right when you walk in the house",
"Am I real?",
"[\"OH JESUS. OH GOD. OH. OH JESUS GOD OH MARY MOTHER OF JESUS. JESUS OF NAZARETH\".](https://youtu.be/zANq9Dusk6Y?t=65)",
"Worth it",
"This is what your face looks like without any shadows",
"Hello Clarice",
"Go get your money back now please",
"What is it?",
"Waking life?",
"Apparently her professor never taught her about the golden hour. Or fill flashes. r/ThereWasAnAttempt",
"I can believe it. Pretty sure what they played for was the option to make them look like Cartoon characters injected into the Real World like in Space Jam. ",
"Humpty dumpty has a family now?",
"It's less common than it used to be for a bunch of reasons, but for a long while pretty much all professional photographers would do touch ups. It changes the photos from work for hire where the customer owns the copyright to a creative work where the photographer does.\n\nIt was basically industry standard to do this when the model was to charge for prints of the photos.",
"Suddenlyyyyyyyy",
"Angella Anaconda lookin asses",
"As a photographer, this makes me feel physically ill. ",
"I don’t know why the other guy is downvoted. He seems a bit sarcastic to me rather than defensive.",
"I’m literally losing it right now. ",
"That is SO worth every penny.\n",
"Hauntingly creepy but hilarious ",
"[/r/thatHappened](https://www.reddit.com/r/thatHappened/?st=JCD5PL0B&sh=5c572c26) ",
"I'm glad they could get some amusement out of the situation, but seriously, who pays $250 for a family photo?",
"Did you stop payment on the check? Or go to Small Claims Court? ",
"They look like perfectly normal aliens to me. What seems to be the problem?",
"the lighting is pretty obvious too.",
"The kind of stupidity that person demonstrated is exactly why I sorta believe we deserve to be hit by an asteroid. ",
"Repost ",
"Probably found a tutorial on wikihow",
"For those who dont know some lady was commisioned to touch up a 100 year old (IIRC) painting of Jesus, and... well, you see the results above. ",
"Why do they look like that though? Like what step was taken or not taken for this to be the out come? ",
"Illegal in most states",
"[Dont forget this beauty ](https://static.highsnobiety.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/30174011/cristiano-ronaldo-statue-best-memes-0.jpg)",
"This is hilarious. ",
"She wasn't commissioned as much as not stopped.",
"/u/normtoutzky, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/normtoutzky&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q1rm8/we_paid_a_photographer_who_claimed_to_be_a/?context=10\\))",
"I've never seen this before.\n\n...where can I buy one?",
"Is the photographer the granddaughter of the spanish woman who restored the [Jesus](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Attempted_restoration_of_Ecce_Homo.jpg) painting?",
"Holy shit. This could totally be a Nathan for You stunt.",
"Her professor never taught her capitalization. ",
"No"
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“We paid a photographer, who claimed to be a professional, $250 for these photos...she said the shadows were really bad and that her professor never taught her to retouch photos.”
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[
"Do you know where on I-40? I live in Knoxville. Wanted to know if it was close. ",
"Somewhere between Jackson and Nashville. (So much further west of you.)\n\nI live in Clarksville. It's very much the same up this way. ",
"It’s started to stick where I am. I’m so excited!",
"I took a train to Clarksville once. Some idiot told me they'd meet me at the station. I was there by 4:30, but they had no reservation. ",
"Without Amazon and Walmart, there would probably have only been 2 trucks on that road.",
"This freeway is wild ",
"This is why they lost the war",
"[You are wrong.] (https://twitter.com/breakingweather/status/951919928294207494)",
"What is that? an inch of snow on a minor grade?",
"Looks like the results of tommorows game. Hay Ho",
"When you accidentally hit one npc car in gta... ",
"We don't do snow in Tennessee. Tornadoes, floods, intense heat, we got it. But not snow. They cancelled school in Nashville because they thought we might get an inch by the afternoon. We got what could be generously described as a dusting, but I still think they made the right call. ",
"I doubt they can pre treat or have the capacity to remove snow in any type of hurry. What you end up getting is snow that turns to ice, and then everyone is just out there waving “good luck everybody else.” ",
"Growing up in Montana, I used to think it was amusing how less than an inch of snow could shut things down so completely. \n\nNow that I'm older, I get it. When you combine the facts that they don't even have all season radials (let alone a tire treaded for snow), most of the people have no idea how to actually drive in snow, and there are no plows; I can see how scary it would be driving in less than an inch of snow, and why it would bring everything to a standstill. ",
"What's funny, I can drive through a blizzard at 55 mph without breaking a sweat. (Grew up with massive snowfall, the caveat being my car has snow tires) but just the thought of a tornado (or hurricane) reduces me to a quivering mass of dread. So, cudos to you.",
"Combined with some pretty bad freezing rain last night/this morning. I've seen worse but it was slick.",
"We'll have time for coffee-flavored kisses\nAnd a bit of conversation",
"Classic I-40. ",
"When you only get a few days a year to practice, if that, your winter driving abilities never get a chance to improve.. n This happens every time it snows",
"Then add in that half of all drivers are below average. …",
"If they would only take my advice and put the high level radioactive waste in the top layer of pavement they wouldn't have this problem, plus there would be better night visiblity with the roads glowing in the dark. Damn liberals always ruining everything."
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This is an image of I-40 earlier today in Tennessee...
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[
"I thought this was a Thalidomide flipper as I scrolled past",
"Your pussy is spread on the bed.",
"When you see it...",
"I bet half the people who saw this picture didn’t realize you had a pocket pussy on your bed. \n\n**cleverness at its finest**",
"sure but you'll have to wash it out first, m8",
"Is that a Fleshlight? ",
"WHY IS THERE A VAGINA IN THE SINK",
"No, it’s his dogs toy. ",
"I can't find my cocaine",
"Lucky dog",
"It’s neat, the dog has somewhere to put his nose if it gets cold. ",
"If I was the type of person to give gold... I'd give it to you.",
"I don’t even know what that means but fuck yeah it sounds good",
"It might be in the fleshlight, did you check?",
"Ya I checked... I think I boofed it and forgot that I put it up my ass",
"Go eat some Mexican food",
"I keep looking at this picture like dude, that’s a gapping vagina. If mine looked like that, I’d be really concerned. ",
"I have a big dick",
"I could probably fit my head in your fleshlight, have you had that thing since you were 10?",
"I'm new to the Fleshlight faze... But I like it... A lot",
"/u/GoonSquadTalley, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must not ask for general information or feedback. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/GoonSquadTalley&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q1tzl/can_anyone_else_do_this/?context=10\\))",
"Yes "
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Can anyone else do this?
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[
"They could fetch a better price for that if the panda was tortured and killed before its poop was harvested.",
"the company that makes these can’t believe people buy this shit ",
"Source: http://www.newsweek.com/tissues-made-panda-feces-food-debris-chengdu-753405",
"The company will also produce toilet paper, apparently, so people will also shit on what they buy. ([sauce](http://www.newsweek.com/tissues-made-panda-feces-food-debris-chengdu-753405))",
"what a bunch of crap "
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This "luxury facial tissue" sold in China is made out of recycled panda poop
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"Want to know how I got these scars? Because fucking Jarvis flew me into a wall. ",
"It's fun to imagine some cross over story where the Joker did something with Tony Stark and stole his suit.",
"I would totally pay to see that."
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Iron Joke
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"Beautiful!",
"good shot ,man",
"What lake is this",
"Lake Granby? ",
"Douglas lake TN",
"Could we get an update on that hand?"
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My view while fishing. ( Great Smoky Mountains )
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"I don't see any American authors there...",
"Arguably the best books",
"Found the person who has never been to an actual shithole country.\n",
"It's a good idea. Tough times can create extraordinary circumstances. Being from \"shithole countries\" is more of a reason to listen to them, so that humanity as a whole can learn from its mistakes. ",
"Shithole, not greatest country ever. Sooner everyone realizes this is Murica's world and their all just living in it, the better.",
"Those aren't lightweight books either. Exit West is so damn good, and boy is it ever relevant.",
"there are some great books in there.\n\nin particular i love \" I'm Malala\", \"Long Walk To Freedom\" and \"Kite Runner\" ",
"Found the person with no sense of humour.",
"Trump didnt say they were shithole countries \n\nhttps://i.imgur.com/JfevQzQ.png",
"Found the person who says that \"Everyone is racist to some degree. Get over it\".",
"oh well that *definitely* proves it then. 🙄",
"Well, let's define shithole. It is now beyond doubt that Trump's definition is 'countries where non-white people come from', but you seem like you might mean poor countries.",
"I've been to some of those countries and they are shitholes.",
"Welcome to r/p(olit)ics",
"Tom Cotton, lol. Seems like his entire platform is unashamed Trump apologist. Did you hear him during his “interrogation” of Jeff Sessions? \n\nHe doesn’t even try to hide it. ",
"And I'm to trust your judgement because..?",
">/u/holbrook2 \n\n>And I'm to trust your judgement because..?\n\n\nYou can do your own research by going to a few of those countries, go ahead, I will wait.",
"Challenge accepted",
"When you hear the same joke 40,000 times it stops being even remotely funny.",
"Who would you take advice on running a car company from: Preston Tucker, or Henry Ford?",
"Idk man there are some shit hole European countries I would never want to vist",
"Up against Dick Turban, Cotton wins every time. ",
"If you hear it 40,000 times, it's probably less of a joke and more of a truth.",
"But it isn't true. If you've never been to an underdeveloped nation, you have no frame of reference. ",
"The Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe, but it would never occur to Trump to call it a shit-hole because they look like they're from Norway. ",
"Eh Pakistan is nice, that’s where the Malala book was written right? It’s a pretty cool place",
"That's why the store is indie.. they get to work with that edge everyday.",
"Except the guy literally sitting next to him said he did... repeatedly\n\n\"I don't recall\" =\" It happened but I'm pretending i didn't hear it\"\n\n",
"Shithole could be considered a subjective term. Any country can be a shithole country. Maybe 3rd world countries just exude rustic charm and are a developers dream.\n\nSomething something organic artisanal",
"Compared to the rest of the western world, America is definitely a shithole. Highest incarceration rate in the world. Most corruption in the western world. Highest infant and maternal death rate in the western world. Worst education in the western world. Worst health care system in the western world. Worst workers' rights in the western world. The list goes on. It is a beautiful country with some amazingly awesome people. Unfortunately most have been duped by the propaganda sold to them of the US being the greatest.",
"*we're",
"So in order to create this table someone had to posit to themselves, “What are the shithole countries.” ",
"If you've never been to an inner city ghetto, you can't see the parallels.",
"Ironically alot of those books are about how shitty their countries are. ",
"Glad to see Adichie on there. Such a good writer. [And well spoken too](https://www.ted.com/talks/chimamanda_adichie_the_danger_of_a_single_story/up-next).",
"Would love to see where you get your stats.",
"Yeah Democrats ruin everything :/",
"OK I'm getting tired of this \"shithole\" thing already. Almost as bad as covfefe.",
"So one well respected person from a country means we should accept all immigrants from said country?",
"Oh my god, Kite Runner was such an amazing book! Now I have to re-read it.",
"It's too bad I don't see Things Fall Apart. That's always been one of my favorites.",
"Maybe kids are allowed in that store. Maybe some parents wouldn't be happy to have their kids seeing words like that in a local bookstore? Seems like a pretty standard thing for a business to do.",
"Maybe they did it to draw more attention to the fact it's a swear word. Maybe they did it so people who may be out of the loop or maybe think the bookstore agrees with the statement, would see that the word is censored, and that it being censored would give the context one would need to see the point they are trying to make. Or maybe it's their bookstore they'll censor what ever the fuck they w**t.",
"Hey! Dont go against the narrative! People are trying to feel good about themselves here. ",
"Youre a fucking genius",
"> Shithole could be considered a subjective term.\n\nAbsolutely. Every city in every country has areas considered \"good\", and areas that are considered shitholes.",
"Pakistan is literally India except Muslim\n\nIs there any more irredeemable combination of ethnicity/religion",
"Just google it stupid. Theyre exaggerating a bit but more right than wrong. ",
"So the writers are from shithole countries ?\n\nThis is a very poor statement.",
"covracist",
"Also ironic is using a 4th/5th century Latin-speaking canonized Bishop (St. Augustine) to hit back against a suggestion that 21st century Africa sucks.\n\nIt's like someone telling you the Greek economy is currently shit and you responding by telling them to read Euripides.",
"You can't say that",
">Secondly, I don't think he actually said what countries he thinks are shit holes. So doesn't that mean whoever made this display is the actual person calling the countries of these authors shitholes?\n\nExactly. People thinking that Trump calling Haiti a shit hole because the people are brown there vs the fact that their infrastructure and economy are shot, reveals way more about their line of thinking vs Trump's.",
"Reeeeeeeeeee!",
"Yea we remember because he was the only one with any common sense. Also remember Kamala Harris got steamrolled by grandpa McCain ",
"And th3y say sarcasm doesnt convey in text",
"seriously, when is the last time anyone \"offended\" ever had a trip to Haiti or Uganda on their travel plans ever.",
"No one alive today gets to claim credit for the good qualities of America, so I don't quite get what your point is. Being born in America doesn't instantly validate your opinions. To the contrary, you may well be afflicted with jingoistic myopia.",
"Don't forget \"The Alchemist\".",
"I enjoyed that musical.",
"Found the person who has never been to Detroit. ",
"Idk I feel like spending this much time on a comment like this is just unproductive for everybody. The left feels the need to preach anti racism and anti this and that at every turn. Yes- it's bad to be racist. But shoving the thought down people's throats is equal to what shoving religion down people's throats does, it repels them away. \n\nEdit: downvote me all you want but you can't build a political party on identity politics. The left is the weakest it has ever been (thanks to obama, that's what he left the Left as when he exited office) and they need to recreate themselves. They expected the WH, senate, house and got blindsided. There's no way that it can be said that the left doesn't have a problem that needs to be addressed. \n\nEdit edit: a lot of you are still missing the point. Politics can't be tribalism, left or right. Quit looking at it like a religion. Trump isn't some god sent down from the heavens, he has said some stupid stuff.",
"Out of interest, not assuming your position but I’ve seen this debated in America, do you also believe that no one alive today is responsible for the negative aspects of American history? ",
"They probably do but im serious.",
"> No one alive today gets to claim credit for the good qualities of America\n\nIf good qualities still exist at all, then they are at least being propagated by some people alive today. ",
"“If good qualities still exist at all…” He types on a miracle of modern technology made possible by the very existence of the country he criticizes……",
"All shit books I notice...",
"Do you understand the point of what I said? I believe there are many good things about and good people populating the US. In fact, I think I'm a good person, and a good American.",
"http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/\n\nThis might interest you",
"Oh you're totally right you shouldn't trust him. So when's your flight to Ethiopia then? ",
"So one shithead from a country means we should deny all of them because theyre all shitheads?",
"Which ones?",
"Yep same here",
"Why do you think all the people there are so worthless ",
"No one's saying all how about some or just let them. Or not insult them ",
"So you can't even be against racism anymore because you fucks can't take any criticism? ",
"Why do you think multiple senators t are lying ",
"So the bookstore agrees with trump",
"Even if they are, the President of the United States of America, who is supposed to be our chief diplomat and representative to the world, should not be saying that kind of thing.\n\nFurthermore, what pisses me off more is the racism of suggesting that white Norwegians are more deserving of the right to immigrate to US than brown and black people. Nobody is really disputing the shithole status of these countries ",
"I mean to say that the strength of American democracy is almost entirely the product of past generations. People chant \"we're number one!\" like they built the damn thing. If anything, they broke it.",
"That's fine, but it's not by virtue of being American. If it's true, it's by virtue of the quality of your character and the worth of your actions, not your place of birth.\n\nAnd being a good person doesn't mean you get to claim credit for American democracy. There are very few people who can make that claim, and most of them are dead.",
"The American writers are behind the sign on the other side of the table I take it? ",
"If someone is good, they are good because of their own character, not because of where they were born. Chucklefuck above suggested a metaphor about car advice, as though being born in America makes you into Henry Ford, and being born in a \"shithole\" makes you Preston Tucker. It doesn't. You don't get to claim credit for the good qualities of America just because you were born there. You have to earn it.",
"Fighting racism is apparently bad because racists don't like hearing that people disagree with them. Nice. ",
"Well whatever you are seems to be pretty toxic",
"Just like that video of the news anchor, backstage, going off when Trump won. He goes on a rant about how he should have seen this coming as the left just kept yelling \"you're racist\" anytime someone bad mouthed Obama, so some folks just kept quiet until they got into the voting booth and voted for Trump",
"You are the one that is associating the shithole countries with black people.",
"You filled in a bunch of missing information, where did he talk about race? ",
"I think the overall, and horrible phrased thought is that if there are \"better\" people who want to immigrant, they should get it. I have a coworker who married someone here on a work visa. That person was from a country that wouldn't make Trump's list of shithole countries. Let's pretend her parents are retired and want to move to America to be with their daughter, son in law, and new grandchild. They have money saved up, can sell their house and move here without issue. Do we accept them, or two beggars from the streets of Haiti who have no formal education, no job training, no money, no English, etc. In this somewhat fake scenario, Trump's sentence could be uttered. ",
"Generally when people try to make a point, they back it up with something, even just anecdotally.",
"Somehow the terrorist Nelson Mandela is a counterpart to Trump. I see there are rational arguments at work here../s",
"You seem very invested in this, and I am not, so I will just say this in response. I am a product of my genetics and my upbringing, as we all are. My upbringing, and my character, were effected and in many ways shaped by the people/culture of my birth locale (Not just in a national sense; even down to pride in my city). There is a very real chain of effect through generations that shapes a national identity, imo. ",
"Secretary of State is the chief diplomat.",
"I haven't seen you people rally behind unproven words this hard since Jesus.",
"I feel like this is the start of an adventure movie for you where you travel the world's 3rd world countries and realize how some are more awful than you think, while others are actually nicer, and the people there are haopy, but dont live up to your 1st world standard. Have fun. Bring a journal.",
"Yeah, why do all these racist people associate Africa with black people? So ignorant.",
"Golly G. I need my eyes checked. Because no where does he say the people are worthless. A shithole country would be one where the everything is falling apart and anyone with power is corrupt and theres barely food and water, let alone a good standard of living. You youeself assumed these people are worthless because of this. Thats awful for you to assume that.",
"He said he didn't want these people from those countries. So it's easy to assume he thinks theybare worthless. And no you people can't turn around and say thinking somethings racist makes you racist. Fuck that stupid narrative you Trump fuck sticks are trying to push ",
"Im not even a trump supporter. He said the countries are shitholes. Not the people. Stop reading shit that isnt there. This is why the middle dont take your side seriously. Ya dont read the basic shit or think for yourself. You read something and assumed something else. You assumed these peoe are awful. Not him.\n That makes you a racist.",
"You're a child ",
"The whole point of the immigration system that we have is to prevent the people who can't speak English and have no money and would overall be a burden from entering.\n\nOpen borders don't mix with a welfare state.",
"Classic left. Get called out? Just cry and insult the opponent. At least the right doubles down and sticks to their stupid narrative.",
"Yea keep throwing out buzzwords. The narrative this and the narrative that. Calling a country a shit hole and saying you don't want them is a comment about the people of that country. If you don't find what the president said disgusting, offensive and wrong. You are a garbage person. I guarantee you are some early 20s something libertarian riggt wing edge Lord whose had no life experience and lacks any form of empathy ",
"He never said anything about white/black. It was shithole country vs non shithole country. You just wanted to make it racist.",
"IT WAS HER TURN!!!",
"Im sorry that basic english is too much for you. I havent used any buzzwords sooo? Not sure what youre talking about. First off. The president never said that. That was confirmed. Ive never been to the supposed shit hole countries are actually awful PLACES. Thats what everyone is saying. That these places are shit. You dont want to live there. Thats why they need asylum in 1st world countries. Only you, and only you are saying we dont want them and that they are worthless. No one else. So now you must decide. Either these places are awful shit holes that no one wants to live in, or they are shitholes and need US help and to take in refugees. You cant have it both ways. Theres no need to try and insult me personally btw. Thats poor debate technique. Thats what a 3rd grader does. Youre litterally just calling these people shit. Just you. Not me, not anyone else. Just you. Im sorry that you realizing that upsetted you. But that for sure wasnt the time to double down. You could have just addmitted your mistake of misreading the beginning too. Or just not assumed these people are shit and not said anything. Buy oh well.",
"I'm sure Malala is immensely proud of the country she came from.",
"Did he say \"White Norway\"?",
"Countries so great we left ASAP. Reminds me of my own family",
"Speaking as a non-American: That's a bit pessimistic, no? All this progress, evolution, reparations... but Trump and whatever else means folk most likely broke America? He didn't even get the majority of the votes.",
"So how he didn't say it and multiple senators are lying to the public. Even the fucking white house isn't denying it you moron ",
"Its all over the news that he didnt say it the way people origionally reported. But nice deflection. Good thing this isnt basketball. Anyway its 6 AM here. Have fun living your life knowing you jumped conclusions on some random dude and freaked the fuck out.",
"Do you realize many people who live in Africa are not black? \n\n",
"Do you realize that most of them are, and they are who Trump meant",
"Pathetic the_donald talking point. Trump was talking about Haiti and African countries when he made his shithole comment. ",
"He said he didn't want any people from those countries. Why would he say that? \n\nYou are going out of your way to be a moron.",
"In the future this picture will be known as the most most American bookstore image to exist. ",
"I don't have the ability to read someone's mind. I can only go with what was said, or reported to have been said in this case.",
"Ok maybe we have the he wrong. Who is he? Because im talking about the dude who started this thread. All he said was that hes been to those countries and they are shit countries. If you're speaking about someone else. Then you should use a proper name. And so to quote a... person, you are going out of your way to be a moron, if you are talking about anyone other than the first comment in this thread.",
"Express that number as a percentage of the whole population.",
"Like when Obama called Libya a shithole? ",
"Who doesn't like a warm cup of Covfefe in the morning? ",
"Bernie is in there somewhere ",
"I hope you guys do realize he is right. Those countries are indeed shitholes.",
"This entire submission and discussion is about the comments Trump made. You know that because you started off your comment by saying 'im not even a trump supporter'. Trump called the countries shitholes and said he didn't want any people from them. Those are the comments being defended. \n\nThough other comments in this thread show you are peddling the lie that it has been confirmed he never actually said those comments. Despite Senators in both parties confirming he did. While two other Senators use the classic 'I don't recall' line which provides them cover from being called a liar and allows useful idiots like yourself to pretend the Senators who definitely state he did make the comments are lying. \n\nSo again, you are really going out of your way to be a moron. ",
"You can do your own research but here's a start:\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Egypt#Ethnic_groups\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Libya#Ethnic_groups\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_South_Africa#Ethnic_groups\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Morocco#Ethnic_groups\n\n\n",
"I don’t know why so many people got mad at Trump for saying that. You can’t tell me that Haiti isn’t a “shithole”. I get he shouldn’t call it that, but he’s not wrong.",
"Doesnt take a trump support to defend someone who is constantly attacked for things he does or doesnt deserve. I wasnt in this private meeting. And people in both parties hate trump. He either said that, or something close. I think it was something close but not exactly that. If im wrong then okay. Ill admit that, but your whole argument is a straw man since my main argument from the beginning was that the man at the start of this thread, called those countries a shithole, and not the people. Thats what im mostly concerned about here. People putting words in the mouth of some random dude. The lord guy i was discussing with earlier was saying that the OP of this thread called the people of these countries worthless when he did not. Now Dorothy, if you please, take your straw man, find a brain, and go back to Oz because im tired of it.\n\nAlso, if i may give a free tip, come up with more than one insult. Using moron twice is, well ironic in a sense.",
">its all over the news that he didnt say it the way people origionally reported.\n\n-\n\n> First off. The president never said that. That was confirmed. \n\nYou are just a liar peddling white house talking points. One has to wonder why. 'Confirmed'. Confirmed by nobody but Trump himself who has never told a lie. ",
"Trump singled out Haitians. Haiti is 95% black Haitian. He did not at any time mention those regions of white settlers that you have cherry-picked out of Africa.",
"No, because he didn't. And he was referring to the military situation, not the country itself, and by extension the people. There's a big difference.",
"*shit-show",
"Yea, ive seen that all over the news. That doesnt change the fact that that could be wrong, or it could be right. Im saying i think he didnt say that. And that these newer reports are more accurate. Ive stayed consistant on this. But like ive said before, it could be wrong and ok then it would be wrong. Jesus christ youre one dense mother fucker. I keep saying the same thing again and again and you keep saying im flip flopping or something? Makes me wonder who the lier is here. Also none of this changes that this whole thing is a straw man. Youre trying so hard to take the part that is a maybe and a matter of opinion, depending on who you believe, and making it a definite. Until i hear or see definite proof, then i would say its fact or fiction.\n\nYou cant even stay on the main topic though because we all know im right on that, the OP of this thread said the countries are shit, not the people. Ive stayed consistant this whole time. I admitted once that if im wrong on something ill admit it, and that has confused the fuck outta you for some reason. Maybe you should get some rest buddy.",
"As an Egyptian I am finding it strange that you seem to be, especially as a Trump supporter, indicating that you don't think Arabs qualify as 'brown or black' given the president's rhetoric about Arabs and Muslims. Also like 80% of South Africa is black. The ethnically white population of Africa is statistically tiny. And when the president classifies Africa in one broadstroke as a shithole, it does no favors and adds no nuance. Why is it so difficult to just admit that a guy you support made a mistake? I loved Obama but harshly criticized his drone policies and his inability to affect the closure of Guantanamo bay and his appetite for half-measures in the face of Republican intransigence. Saying \"yeah he fucked up but he's doing okay as a whole\" would at least save face for you. \n\nI have absolutely no interest in debating anyone on anything on Reddit so if you feel like getting into some protracted thing, just assume you pwned a libtard snowflake and move on with your day. ",
"You haven't seen any such reports all over the news unless you exclusively browse right wing rags. The facts are you have Senators from both parties confirming he made the comments and 2 Republican Senators using the weasel words 'I don't recall' to avoid confirming it but not wanting to deny it in case more evidence comes out like say Trump doing what Trump does and admitting to it in a late night Tweet. \n\nThe fact that you choose to lie about this proves exactly what type of person you are. \n\n\n\n>Until i hear or see definite proof, then i would say its fact or fiction.\n\n-\n\n>First off. The president never said that. That was confirmed.\n\nYou can't even keep your bullshit talking points straight. You are bad at this. ",
"Yeah, Norway isn't white, everyone knows that. It's only 86.2% ethnic white Norwegians with over two thirds of the others white European immigrants. That's like, *4 whole percent* made up of non-whites. Obviously Trump meant \"ethnically diverse Norway\", get off his back everyone!",
"Seriously, can I please just browse reddit and see funny and intriguing content without having to deal with freaking politics? Can we make a new reddit just for everybody's political opinions, where they can argue and complain with other people who want to do that? We can call it knowit. Seriously I've unsubscribed from around 10 subreddits because they've been taken over by politics. I have spoken, so feel free to use the up and downvote buttons at your leisure",
"Has he tweeted he has admitted? Because if so then ok, my bad, he said it. That second quote of mine is my opinion, my opinion that the reports that confirmed he didnt say it are true. The first one is if multiple people lied. Ok cool. They do that. The whole reason i dont believe he said it was because every day, about 85% of the media makes up shit that he says and ive lost faith in most of the media. Cant blame me for that can you? And every post im saying this, youre still straw manning me. This will be my last one because youre so awful at this. You put words and meanings in my mouth that arent there and frankly, ive had enough of how bad that tastes. This is just a minor part of the discussion. The main one was about someone who isnt even trump. If you talk about him i might respond again. But since youre just spinning yarn in circles here, im done with you. I can only play with the mentally disabled for so long. Im just repeatong myself 100 times to a brick wall anyway. Night.",
"What? How is that ironic? I mean, we cant know what the bookstore worker meant, but what makes you think the point of the display is to convince anyone that these countries arent struggling economically? Seems more likely to me that they want to make a point that art can come from anywhere, and that referring to all immigrants from any country or continent as undeserving is foolish.. and probably, in this case, racist. ",
"Many people are disputing the shithole status of those countries. I would have have prefered that he not be this blunt but what he said is true and not racist. Accusing him of being racist is more racist than anything he said.",
"He also spoke the truth but some people think only certain countries can be insulted.",
"He singled out Haiti and Africa...He's also a moron who thought Nambia is a country, and who needs enablers like you to find any possible out to an obviously racist point of view. Jesus Christ. ",
"and yet you did not.",
"That thought is coming from you so why do YOU think that?",
"You are welcome to be against racism but Trump did not say anything racist. Most of the people coming also think their countries are shitholes or else they would not be coming. \nWhen you falsely accuse Trump of racism because he is a white male then you are the one being racist. I agree he was rude but what he said is true and he certainly has a right to his opinions.\n\nIf you disagree fine, what countries are you allowed to have negative opinions about and what countries are you not allowed to have negative opinions about? Honest question.",
"He was implying that Norwegian immigrants were inherently more deserving that immigrants from Africa or Haiti. He could've said he just wanted the best people from anywhere, but he painted black countries as undeserving, and a white country as deserving. It's hard to take it as anything but racist.",
"How about when Trump called America a shithole?\n\nWell.. he said the \"Whole of America\" multiple times... and whole sounds like hole, and hole is part of shit hole. But as we know from your comment any phrases with overlapping words but a totally separate meanings is actually the same thing.",
"Trump did not say anything racist. He voiced his opinion and evidently the people coming from those countries agree or else they would not be coming. \n\nFalsely accusing him of racism because Trump is white is an actual example of racism. ",
"Haiti and Africa are shitholes. You would under no circumstance ever move to Haiti or Africa. Because you know they're shitholes. ",
"I live in one of those shithole countries - and sure, it has a lot of problems, but it has also produced great minds like the writers on this table. The point is, talented people can come from anywhere, and calling all the people from majority black places undeserving of american citizenship, all people from a majority white country deserving is probably based entirely on racism. ",
"You're right, Trump only picked Norway because they're 96% white. It could have just as easily been Latvia or Belarus that he picked for his example. He was obviously making a racial argument here. ",
"The countries certainly do suck, you seem to focus on the people. And no, I am not from the_donald so you can't just use that excuse.",
"DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE THAT PROVES ETHIOPA SUCKS??? SOURCE????",
"Lol, this is just too funny. I actually do live in Haiti (in Montagne Noir, just south of Petionville). And i actually do love it. But again that's not the point. Haiti is absolutely struggling i wont argue against it (although, america's role in Haiti's instability is painfully obvious, that's not the point either). The point is, Haiti has produced amazing artists, academics, businessmen, athletes, etc. - all of whom make american better. And painting the whole country as undeserving is silly and likely based solely on racism. ",
"Norway, aka the #1 country on the human development index... Definitely wouldn't want immigrants from there. They might bring that successful human development with them. /s\n\n\nYou're the one who made this about race, not the president. ",
"I think you wanted him to mean that because you are secretly racist. ",
"How did Norway get such a better quality of life than America if diversity is our strength??? Norway is under reporting their diversity for sure. ",
"How clever!",
"Shame they couldnt make Haiti better lmao",
"I mean, yeah, that would be welcome. Even a story about poor quality of life.\n\nYou also picked a very bad country to strawman with. https://qz.com/1109739/ethiopia-is-one-of-the-fastest-growing-economies-in-the-world/",
">although, america's role in Haiti's instability is painfully obvious,\n\nYou can thank the Clintons for that",
"Too bad those countries are actually very shitty. That's why most people flee from there and illegally enter western countries.",
"History of Seven Killings is a fantastic book. Highly recommend it. Reading it now. I heard about it on local radio.",
"And how shitty America's involvment into the situations taking place is.\n\nBook of Seven Killings brings that point up repeatedly.\n\nEdit: Guess no one read the book.",
"\"Why do we want people from these shithole countries...\". How you are able to interpret this as being about how the countries themselves function is beyond me.",
"Even IF he said it... What's wrong with that? Those are pretty much shithole countries. Why don't people just admit it? They just get offended on the behalf of those countries. Virtue signalling at it's best!",
"A country having problems is not the same thing as calling it a shithole. A shithole is a hole in the ground, where you take a dump. It's like saying someone writing a book on America having problems with racism is calling the country shitty, and agrees with people who say it's the devil. \n\nPlus, Trump specifically was saying he didn't want the *people* from those \"shithole\" countries, as if coming from a country where there's poverty makes the people shitty too. \n\nIt's the difference between you saying \"Yeah my car is a bit old and shitty, it could use some repairs\" and me saying \"I don't want someone who drives a piece of shit car like you do to step in my house.\"",
"Whilst I imagine most of the commenters here highlighting that the books pictured depict how bleak and shit-holey said countries are; are in jest, I'm sure the motive of the people here in this bookshop and online are trying to communicate that whilst these countries are not as progressive as some others, they've still produced incredibly talented/respected people and works. ",
"Under Democratic leadership since 1962.",
"One person from a shithole country did something productive. That means that country obviously isnt a shithole. What even constitutes a shithole?",
"Yeah...those stats don't exist...unless the \"Western world\" is basically 10 countries. Just remember...we are number 1 in power.",
"He was saying he doesn't want people from those countries. That is the racist part, not the word shithole",
"Your house is a shithole compared to brad pitt's housr. \n\nHow does that feel? You shithole resident.",
"Do you realize that he did not mention Africa",
"Trump's first tweet this year was how Pakistan was undeserving of aid. Trump supports must suffer from short term memory loss.",
"Some parts of kite runner had me shook. ",
"And a lot were written in America ",
"Should we continue providing aid to countries that harbor terrorists?\n\n> The United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools. They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!\n\n6:12 AM - Jan 1, 2018",
"Thats like, your opinion, man",
"I think this is the real answer....when you look at everything thru racist glasses everything has racist undertones/motivations ",
"Did he say they were more \"deserving\" or more \"desirable?\" Could someone hold a position that people from a 1st world country with better education and medical treatment are more desirable immigrants (healthy, educated) than people from a third world country where lack of education and proper medical care are rampant?",
"nah man this is the most serious thing ever.",
"it started well before the Clintons, with our refusal to recognize the world’s first black republic in the early 19th century, and continued through the outright invasion and occupation in the early 20th century, the support of the Duvalier dictatorship from the 50’s to the 80’s, USAID eradication of the resilient Creole Pig in the 80’s, the destruction of the rice and poultry industries in the 90’s, the political meddling in the 90’s and 2000’s and the botched response to the Earthquake 8 years ago yesterday. ",
"Many of them tried, but the deck was stacked against them. in many ways because of interference by the united states. That's not to say Americans are alone to blame (the french are up there too), but we intentionally hampered their development over and over again when it suited our interests. ",
"Speaking English is not a requirement for immigration to the United States, although speaking the native tongue is a common requirement for other countries.",
"Lol, Norway has oil. That's why this is the funniest example of a deserving country because that's the main source of their money. I mean, name a Norwegian company? It's pretty hard.. ",
"If we’re being honest....most of America is a shit hole. ",
"I understand your point and I agree. However, because there’s amazing people everywhere in the world, that doesn’t mean that every place is amazing. There’s a lot of horrible things that happen around the world that people don’t talk about, the US included. The best thing for all these other countries is to improve them, like actually improve them. The US can help with that but probably won’t. Letting everyone into the US won’t help and never will, it’ll slowly make the US like the rest of the world.",
"Such an amazing read.",
"It's not because he's white it's because he is a racist and he's proved that in the past.",
"The moral dilemma is whether we bring in immigrants to make **their** lives better or to make **our country** better. Some think that we have an obligation to take in the world's \"tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free\" because it's the compassionate thing to do. Others believe that immigrants should bring something to the table. Throughout our history our immigration policies have shifted between the two.",
"I absolutely love this.",
"But would *other* people say you're a good person? That's not a label you give yourself, dude.",
"Which one has more problems than the other, Norway or Africa? Which would you feel safer travelling around? Which one has key areas that you need to stay away from if you don’t want to get killed? If we actually answer this truthfully we’ll all agree on something.\n\nAs for the racist comments, that’s something else.",
"It was broke for a while. We were trying to fix it, but it doesn't seem like anyone in the White House is even trying. They're just trying to lessen the collateral that comes out of the President's mouth.",
"All Haitians have AIDS. Isn't that what Trump said before? ",
"Huh?",
"The President did not say such a thing publicly. He said it in a closed door session in which you can say he is naive to think that his political enemies won’t leak to put him in a bad light. Political leaders say lots of nasty things in private. It is human nature. It is however a political agenda on how much is leaked to serve a certain purpose.\n\nI am not an American but I think president trump is really facing huge odds against a very biased US media which is trying to relitigate the last election result.",
"You're lying to yourself. It is a racist comment. It's been deemed so by most of the population except you trump supports who still believe he can do no wrong.\n\nIgnorance is bliss, baby!",
"Just because you say he didnt say something racist doesnt change the fact that what he said was very racist. Why are you so offended by this? It doesnt even affect you. Lol.",
"Ironic is how you guys use irony.",
"Except when someone blatantly says something offensive about predominantly black countries in a blanket term. Countries are made of people, those people represent the country. If you call their countries shitholes, you are calling their people shit. \n\nThis isn't a simple misunderstanding, and it's not the first time this person has made disparaging comments about other races. His father Fred was also a well known racist (participated in KKK rallies) who tried to force entire ethnicities out of Brooklyn for years. We also know that racism is a learned thing that typically comes from your upbringing/exposure. You do the math on that one.",
"So you hate all Indians and see them irredeemable.\n\nYou also hate Muslims and see them as irredeemable.\n\nBut you're saying here and what trumps said wasn't racist *at all*. Got it.",
"Oh yea, definitely. Right before he said this you can see him off screen confirming with his aids that he should in fact say, \"Why are these shithole countries even here?\" to distract from their real master plan.\n\nHow gullible are you?",
"If it's not a shithole then all those immigrants can go back. What a dumb argument.",
"Let the Gish Gallop begin. No one is buying your \"argument\".",
"Did he name any predominately white countries? Oh wait...I guess only dark skinned people have bad economies. Is that your next statement?\n\nYou can thinly veil it all you want, but its obvious.",
"> rump did not say anything racist. He voiced his opinion and evidently the people coming from those countries agree or else they would not be coming.\n> \n> Falsely accusing him of racism because Trump is white is an actual example of racism.\n\nAgain, just because you call it racist does not mean it is racist. If you feel it is racist then tell me what countries can you say negative things about and what countries can you not say negative things about?\n\nName some non-white people that you have called racist.\n",
"its so fucking hypocritical too\n\nlike everyone here never called any of those countries shitholes \n\nyou know what my reaction was when I heard Trump called them shitholes? nothing! because we all thought that. And anyone who says they are too virtuous to call these countries shitholes is just virtue signalling. \n\nthats the thing democrats don't get, right now they are basically running Trump's 2020 campaign for him. Because a lot of people will hear this and think, \"wait a second, he is right, what's the big deal?\"\n\nit seems Democrats haven't learned shit from the 2016 campaign. Because back then a lot of the commercials Hillary ran were actually positive for Trump. \"Trump wants to stop illegal immigrants from coming to this country!\" \n\n",
"How many trips to Haiti and Africa have you made in your life? Judging by your many anti Muslim posts in your history, I'd say none.",
"So what makes them a shithole country? Because there are many countries he didnt include.",
"\"It's been deemed so by most of the population\"\n\nNo it it has been deemed so by you as an individual. If you feel this is racist then please explain to me which countries you are and are not allowed to make negative comments about?\n\nAlso, if you do not think these are shithole countries then explain why so many people are trying to leave them.\n\nAlso where would you rather live, in Norway or in one of the shithole countries? Honest answer if you are capable.",
"Really, when has he proved that? Give me an actual qoute from Trump not somebody's interpretation of something that he said.\n\nWhat non-white people have you accused of racism?",
"Totally not defending Trump because he undefendable. but Malala is from Pakistan. Trump named Africa and eluded to Haiti as ‘shithole’ countries. So is this bookstore calling Pakistan a ‘shithole’ country? Just saying.",
"They have monuments to socialism so I sort of doubt they would measure success by measure of how many big corporations exist there. If someone is running a big corporation you would also be better served to be in a country with more corporate welfare. There are many countries with oil that act foolishly, like shithole countries.",
"Individual people can be gems, but gems are found in dirt. Also those countries are shitholes.",
"I have been to Africa, how about you? How many times have you been to Haiti or Africa?\n\nCan you name some non-white people that you have accused of racism?",
"People should stop focusing on calling them a shit hole but not granting citizenship because they come from destitude. He'd rather have more white people from Norway. And that's the racist part.",
"At least we're recognizing the shithole part",
"I dont know - if we take the best of other countries, i agree that will be to the detriment of their home countries, but it will be our benefit, as it always has. We've always benefited from taking people willing to risk everything to make it here - and usually, only people from 'shithole' countries (formerly including italy and ireland) are desperate enough to take that risk. I'm sorry, but that line 'taking them in will make us like them' has been used for hundreds of years. yet it's always been wrong. i suspect that's true now as well. ",
"They are. But do we not want the people from these ‘shithole’ countries? They don’t have anything to offer, especially when given options in life? I think that’s why people are upset by. We have a lot of Haitian and African immigrants in this country. He basically called them\nWorthless, and said we’d be better off with Norwegians. That’s not cool IMO. ",
"There are more American born Caucasian men on welfare than any one else. On top of that, immigrants don't get hand outs and the process can take years. They are required to learn more about this country than the average American knows. ",
"I am curious as you why you think that?\n\nI may not agree with him/her, but I wouldn’t think it sensible to impose my views on them?",
"I think the message is great minds can come from shithole countries therefore shouldn't be singled out in immigration",
"My house IS a shithole compared to Brad Pitt's house. That's why I'm working on making it better instead of asking someone for a free roof over my head.",
"Hey, I see my country... and yes, it is a sh**hole!",
"Maybe Haiti is such a shithole because you are so racist against each other as racism is the only thing keeping the black folks down.",
"Malala has Canadian citizenship. ",
"He’s referring to them being a shithole based on income and living conditions. Haiti is one of the poorest countries in the world.",
"When did Trump actually say either of those things? I'm looking for actual qoutes from Trump. Not rabid accusations. \n\nWhat non-white people have you accused of being racist or are you actually the racist?",
"A strong welfare state is not unique to norway, especially in Scandinavia. And since Norway and the US generally rank together in ease of doing business rankings, i doubt Norwegians are clambering to come to a country that's very similar, albeit more unequal, with more expensive healthcare, and run by a racist dimwit. ",
"Just wait until the mid terms this year. Democrats are going to do even worse. Everyone is going to be shocked because Trump's approval ratings suck. Then in 2020, the DNC will successfully appoint the candidate that will lose to Trump. The level of groupthink coming out of their diversity is astounding.",
"It was a joke ",
"Lol you can but just understand that it's like a religion for the left and it can't be built around it. Don't build politics on identity ",
"He talked about the countries not the people and certainly not these authors. Communist Russia was a shithole for example but that does not mean that all Russians are shit holes. ",
"And some of them don't. ",
"If racism pisses you off can you name a few non-white people that you consider racist? or are you the racist?",
"Can you name a few non-white people that you consider racist?",
"You mean besides the fact we are talking about illegal immigration. Fairly certain America doesn't have an issue with it happening legally. ",
"> I don’t know why so many people got mad [...] I get he shouldn’t call it that\n\nWell, people got mad because he shouldn't call it that.\n\n",
"No. He talked about the people, not the places. \n\n\"Why should we let people from shithole countries in America\"",
"Can you name a few non-white people that you consider to be racist? If not then you are the racist.",
"Trump did not say all. YOU said all. \n\nCan you name a few non-white people that you consider to be racist? If not then YOU are the racist.",
"No. If something is crap, you call it crap. Your economy, political system, economical structure being crap does not warrant coddling. It's trash and people are trying to leave, then it gets called trash.\n\nEffing fluff bunnies. You can butt rape them with no lube as long as you tell them everything will be ok.",
"Damn this threads getting brigaded hard lmao wtf",
"I cannot. Why do you ask?",
"We have people coming from the shithole countries because they want a better life. However, trump is not their leader, Trump is the American president and his question is what good are they bringing to the US which is a valid concern. \n\nJust curious, if you consider Trump to be racist can you name several non-white people that you consider to be racist? If not then you are the racist.",
"Oh the irony. I'll say right now, I hate Trump, and won't defend him. That being said, he called Haiti and African countries \"shitholes\", so for this bookstore to include Malala/Khaled Hosseini/etc. on the table is the bookstore saying \"Well these places are probably shitholes too\".",
"Parts of america are complete shitholes. Some states are complete shitholes. More people are complete shit holes than we care to admit",
"He talked about BOTH. He called the countries shithole places. He did not call the people shithole people.\n\nHe is the American president and he is asking what good do they bring to America which is a valid concern. Also these people evidently usually agree with him that their countries are shithole countries or else they would not be coming in such large numbers.",
"Well yeah, same as Americans. I highly doubt you've personally written an acclaimed piece of literature.",
"Why do you keep asking people to name non-white racists?",
"I hate Trump but he has a few points I could agree with. ",
"Yes, he was elected from a group of people who haven't been represented and felt like they have been talked down to. This election has caused people to look at politics as a religion and that's dangerous. Particularly the left as their party is based on identity politics and fighting racism, while that's cool and all, calling everything racist that doesn't necessarily fit into your ideology is wrong and that's a strong word that alienates people and pushes them away. ",
"I dont understand what you're saying. That because africa has both rich and poor parts, we should discount the entire continent of a billion people from entering the US? Again, The issue isnt that he called poor countries shitholes, the issue is that he thinks all immigrants in africa or haiti, regardless of their qualifications, are inherently less deserving than norwegians - which again, is hard to interpret as anything but racist.",
"That's a bullshit angle that doesn't make any sense and everyone who uses that is dumb. ",
"> Just curious, if you consider Trump to be racist can you name several non-white people that you consider to be racist? If not then you are the racist.\n\nThanks for confirming that you are the racist.",
"Thanks for confirming that you are the racist.",
"Can you not name a single non-white racist person? There are multiple groups founded on racist ideals coming from a multitude of races",
"Nah you are the racist and you know it. ",
"He may or may not, but we showed what a successful democracy looked like when trump took office. But the tribalism between the left can right is dangerous because then you don't vote with logic, but whoever your political party says you should vote for. ",
"Literally every other country requires you to have some sort of skills in order to immigrate.",
"Louis Farrakhan is a racist. So is Trump. ",
"> you know what my reaction was when I heard Trump called them shitholes? nothing! because we all thought that.\n\nNot everyone thought that. And he is the President. People like you are the biggest problem in the world. ",
"> Just curious, if you consider Trump to be racist can you name several non-white people that you consider to be racist? If not then you are the racist.\n\nThis is one of the most hilarious attempts at deflection I have seen in quite some time.",
"Only a racist would be unable to name racists from multiple races. If instead you single out one race for attack then you are the racist since you obviously consider all other races to be better than that one. ",
">he talked about the countries not the people \n\n>he talked about BOTH\n\nSo you admit you were flat out wrong in your first comment \n\nAnd the president if the united states should speak with more tact and insight than the average redditor. I miss when we had standards. ",
"I would not agree that whole states are but I agree that certain areas are.",
"Only a racist would be unable to name racists from multiple races. If instead you single out one race for attack then you are the racist since you obviously consider all other races to be better than that one.\n\n",
"When everything is racist it dilutes the argument",
"I mean, it's not ironic, it makes sense. People want too come to America to leave their shit hole... If their country was better, they wouldn't do it.\n\nAs a side note, in very anti trump, but as a child of immigrants and married to a woman from an immigrant family, you risk your life to leave a shit hole. If our parents had a plush life, they wouldn't have left.",
"He could've said he only wanted healthy, educated people regardless of national origin. They certainly exist even in 'shithole' countries. But he didnt say that. he openly wondered why we would take any people from nearly exclusively black countries. and that we should only take people from nearly exclusively white countries. You can try to rationalize it any way you want. but he said what he said. and moreover, it's par for the course. the dude's obviously a racist and has been his whole life. ",
"I dont remember",
"Yeah people in this thread are missing the point. It's the \"why\" that's most frustrating. Most people agree these countries aren't in great conditions. But to suggest these people should just suffer is completely unAmerican",
"Russia still is a shithole country. Putin is doing a good job at making it that way.",
"Yeah people in this thread are missing the point. It's the \"why\" that's most frustrating. Most people agree these countries aren't in great conditions. But to suggest these people should just suffer is completely unAmerican",
"\"So you admit you were flat out wrong in your first comment\"\n\nIn what way?",
"Power yea. Fuck yea lol. All day. But thats about it. Weve got some work to do and im confident that we can all come together to build ourselves back up. Maybe. ",
"Write what you know.",
"It is a valid point. When left wing people cry racism they are almost always the racist. \n\nBy the way can you name several non-white people that you consider to be racist?",
"> Just curious, if you consider Trump to be racist can you name several non-white people that you consider to be racist? If not then you are the racist.\n\nThat is the dumbest thing I've read all morning.\n\n\"No, it is YOU who is the racist! Aha!\"",
"I agree about Louie but can you give me an actual qoute from Trump that you consider to be racist?",
"Wait what. How does that make me a racist? I simply don't know many non-white people. Plus when I call a white (orange?) person a racist that does not mean that I think all white people are racist.",
"You say he wasn't talking about people then in the second said he was indeed talking about the people. Your welcome for the help",
"Thanks for proving that you are the racist.",
"How about naming a few individuals? \nI'll start Louis Farrakan and all of his supporters.",
"And do you honestly believe Trump knows the difference when speaking about countries as opposed to speaking about people? He has the English skills of a toddler, and half the time he talks about dead people thinking they're alive. He may have failed at being racist.. but the intent remains obvious.",
"Isn't trumps wife from Russia or some other country like it? Did he ask why we should let her in?",
"The problem was he was behind closed doors discussing immigration and wanted to know why we accept so many people from shit hole countries and some dope thought this was worth leaking. \n\nAlthough crude, it’s a fair question for someone who doesn’t understand and sounded somewhat intellectually curious. Perhaps he got educated, perhaps not. \n\nThe answer is because those people want a better life because they live in shithole countries. \n\nBut here we all are talking about using the term “shithole”. Who cares what term he used? It’s not like he said it during a presser with elementary kids. Cmon",
"No it's not racist! Norwegians are just better than many other people. Better educated, they share and have better values, they are richer and they are mostly bilingual. ",
"Certainly is recently, used to be a place one wanted to visit or even work in, but the last twenty years have seen it slide. Bits are pretty but I would no longer feel safe in a lot of it. ",
"> Parts of america are complete shitholes.\n\nFrom my experience working in third world countries, nowhere in America is in any way comparable to somewhere like Haiti. ",
"Yes, I do think Trump knows the difference, but I do not think that most left wing people know the difference. I was offended by Trump and voted against him but to be fair he figured out how to turn a million dollar loan into billions and he figured out how to out manuever many well connected career politicians from both sides to win his first ever election. You don't manage to do stuff like that by being stupid and you would have to be fairly stupid to think otherwise.",
"Democratic run states:)",
"He specifically said, he didn't want the people from the shithole countries, inferring that aren't valuable like the people from Norway.\n\nYou really don't have to read in between the lines with Trump.",
"It is not a valid point. You are deflecting in two ways.\n\n1. You want the guy to name other racists so that you can shift the focus of the discussion on to other people. \n\n2. You want to call the guy you are responding to a racist, so that they become the subject of the discussion.\n\nEDIT: Oh and I see you can't help yourself. \n\n>By the way can you name several non-white people that you consider to be racist?\n\nI could, but that is not the topic we are discussing right now.",
"I said he was not talking about the people when he said shithole. I did not say that he did not mention the people. Please work on your reading comprehension. ",
"> inherently less valuable as people.\n\nEconomically speaking, when you look at resettled refugees and immigrants from different areas there are vast differences in the economic value that different people bring to this country. ",
"Your ability to write has nothing to do with the state of your home state.",
"Nah",
"\" I simply don't know many non-white people.\" \n\nYou also do not personally know Trump. However, you do however hear and see both Trump and non-white people in the media. There are racists in every race. If you can only name them from any one race then you are a racist.",
"Thanks for proving that you are the racist not Trump.",
"I mostly agree, but the President of the USA should not think on that level at all. It is shameful. Cmon. ",
"He did. It was in a private closed door meeting. ",
"Keep on grasping at that denial Cletus. ",
"Good people can come from shithole places. He never mentioned the people were bad.\n\n\nTheir countries ate awful places to live. That's why they want to come here.\n\n\nBut they made their country awful by being a terrible community and they will bring that to the USA",
"Yep, I could believe that. The real question is why the hell would anyone buy one of those books?",
"> white Norwegians are more deserving of the right to immigrate to US than brown and black people.\n\nYou don't think it could be the education level or culture of a place like Norway that would generate better immigrants?",
"yes everyone thought that\n\nif you tell me you never called one of those countries a shithole when talking about some story about their drug wars, or their corruption or hundreds of other conditions they have to deal with, then you are either a lying sack of shit or mormon or are a 14 year old who still gets the giggles when he hears poop on tv.\n\nAnd yes it was the president, so fucking what. It wasn't the state of the union address, it was a closed door meeting. who cares? like seriously, you need to wake the fuck up. Thats how adults talk in the real world. Hell, Trump could call these countries shitholes in the state of the union address, and I still wouldn't see what the outrage is.\n\nstop getting the vapors over every little thing and grow the fuck up",
"Reality hits you hard, bro.",
"No you just said he wasn't talking about the people. There was no conditionary clause in that statement. Please work on your writing comprehension ",
"You have your convictions and I'll have no success in wresting them from you. But I will say this, I live in a 3rd world country, and I've seen.. God, oh so many presidents whom he may as well be a perfect clone of in behaviour and demeanor. My point is, he's barely running anything; there is a massive governmental infrastructure that runs the country with or without him. The few decisions he gets to make publicly to set the path of the country's future have only irked the majority of his country, and indeed global leaders. That says something about his personal competency. But that's my take.",
"Why is the D.R. doing so much better? They had a similar colonial burden (even worse in some ways since Haiti invaded and occupied there), but have managed to make a much more livable and functioning country. ",
"Did I miss something? I thought he just said shithole countries in general and then singled out Haiti....Helen Oyeyemi is British and lives in Prague....\n",
"Saying \"why should we let them in\" implies that they are bad/unworthy. Which is untrue as this picture shows. Some of them should be let in and broad statements like the one he made are dangerous ti make. Saying none of them should come in because of where they are from is horrible and unAmerican. My ancestors and your ancestors came from shithole countries at some point. These people are the same. I feel like if it were any other president people wouldn't be giving him the leeway he's been given.",
"Let’s be honest, being called a shithole country is probably the best thing for these places. Raise awareness. That’s what the world is like nowadays. ",
"\"we are discussing right now\"\n\nActually it is. That \"di\" at the front of discussion is latin for two as in you hear multiple points of view in discussions and people can bring things up. My impression reading most of these comments is that they are coming from racists that are attacking Trump because he is white. In order to test that guess, I'm asking a relevant question. Welcome to the concept of discussions where other people get to bring things up as well.",
"Thank you for proving you are a moron just like Trump. ",
"And yet there are those here that say that's a racist policy and we should let anyone in to benefit them.",
"Ahahaha!\n\nEven a few Nelson Mandela books. A dude that turned a sort of shitty country into a total and complete barbaric shithole packed with rapists and murderers.\n\nNo wonder there are so many Afrikaaners where I live. They will get tortured and murdered in Nelson's utopian shithole \n\nAlso the Kite Runner about where gays get murdered in their shithole country\n\nMalala Yousafzai's book where she was shot for wanting women's rights in her shithole country (and had to escape from)\n\nBeasts of no Nation which is irronically about beasts in a very specific shithole nation doing beastly things\n\nHistory of Seven Killings about how Bob Marley was the target of assassination in his shithole of a home country\n\n*You would think book store employees would know a thing or two about the books they sell*\n\n\n\n",
"What? I described exactly what he said. He coulve said something really simple, like we should only take the best people. but he didnt, he equated desirable immigrants with white countries, and undesirable immigrants with black countries. There was no ambiguity. You can rationalize it any way you want, and try to deflect by calling me a racist - you'd be wrong, but you can try - but in the end, it's consistent with racist things he's said in the past. He's a racist. pure and simple. ",
"We’re a year in with Trump. We need to get past the idea that this guy will act the same as the 44 before him. \n\nHe’s crude, sort of stupid, isn’t quick on his feet, has amoeba like philosophy and lacks a filter around people. \n\nI ignore his mouth and watch the policies coming out from his administration. He will sign DACA into law when it’s on his desk. His mouth said he wouldn’t. His pen will. ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯ ",
"“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”\n\nEdit: I don't think Trump is a full-on white supremacist or anything. I think with him it's a mixed bag, but in the case of the shithole statement we're seeing Trump's racism on display. Especially in the full context of the meeting. It's just ugly. I won't say I don't understand how people are defending it, because I do. I just disagree with his views and the views of his supporters.",
"That's totally irrelevant. The reason his saying that caused outrage is because he is the figurehead for the US and for the free world and to a large extent acts as its spokesperson. Simply by using such language a) in this position and b) in the setting in which he used it is to take a massive, steaming shit on the concept that the president and his office operate with decorum, propriety and intellectual maturity. Let alone the fact that what he said was bluntly racist. Sure it might be accurate, or at least partially so, but again, you obviously cannot say things like that in that role and in that public and formal setting. Also, a large part of his job is the maintenance and improvement of international relations. If he cared about or even was at all mindful of these responsibilities, he would hesitate to say things like that.",
"> Some states are complete shitholes.\n\nWould you care to name a US state that you think is a complete shithole? ",
"What could possibly happen from losing the oh so importance alliance with Haiti? They'll refude to take the millions of dollars in aid the US sends them every year?",
"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/11/trumps-shithole-comment-about-haiti-lends-credence-to-report-that-he-said-its-residents-all-have-aids/?utm_term=.0ec27b2d329d\n\nhttp://time.com/4473972/donald-trump-mexico-meeting-insult/",
"Kite runner is an amazing book but the fact it starts with a kid getting sodomized by another kid then later on that kids son is held as a sex slave by the rapist kid who buys orphans kind of proves a certain point. ",
"> He'd rather have more white people from Norway. And that's the racist part.\n\nHe said Norway because he just came from a meeting with Norwegian officials. He also said Asian countries. Not too many white immigrants coming from Asian countries.",
"Hell there are parts of America that are shitholes, I grew up in one and moved the fuck outta there.",
"Wrong. Not Africa, certain African nations.",
"My grandparents have used the term \"shithole\" to describe where they came from. And when Trump's family came to America, it wouldn't be too hard to describe their country as a shithole either.\n\nHe's a dick for saying it and I don't like him but he was trying to speak in candor during a negotiation. It was stupid and he should have known this would happen, but this is just gonna be the thing that no one shuts up about for the next two weeks.",
"Also ironic to use acclaimed authors to argue against a merit based immigration policy. It's like those Facebook posts of 'I'm a doctor and published in 8 medical journals and from a shithole country'.... ",
"racism against Haitians is undoubtedly one of the reasons it's struggling. the US invaded in the early 20th century and installed brutal southern generals that knew how to deal with the blacks. They consolidated industry in the capital (we didn't want to station too many marines around the country), causing PauP to grow considerably, which is one of the reasons the earthquake 8 years ago was so devastating. But the racism isnt coming from aid workers, it's coming from racist politicians in washington just like our sitting president. ",
"Where’s Life of Pi!?",
"No he called countries that they come from shitholes which implies that whatever system is in that country may well not produce people that have valuable skills and abilities to bring to America. He did not say that the people themselves were bad but that they likely did not have as much to offer America.\n\nIn other words if you owned a company and wanted to hire an engineer. Would you want to hire someone that had graduated from an accredited university with an engineering degree or would you want to hire someone that graduated from a school that is not even accredited? \n\nFair or not not all societies are the same or produce the same results. That is why many more Haitians are fleeing their country than Norwegians. ",
"They're white suburb kids who are *pretty sure* every country is just like America but has people with different colored skin.",
"Agreed",
"I mean if you ask the leaders of any of these countries, Trump using a mean name is more important than the fact that they preside over war torn famine and disease ridden hellscapes.",
"[You're right, the president shouldn't talk like that.](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/barack-obama-says-david-cameron-allowed-libya-to-become-a-s-show-a6923976.html)",
"You are an idiot.",
"...like Fire and fury?",
"Pakistan *is* undeserving of aid.",
"Those are two different discussions, this comment was not about aids.\n\nAlso thanks for demonstrating that you are too racist to come up with any non-whites that you would consider to be racist.",
"As pointed out by other redditors, the \"shithole\" comment isn't what's racist, it's the logic that (black)people from those countries need to have a good reason to be let in the US while (white)people from Norway are openly invited.",
"I mean, I honestly can't think of any of their names because most of them aren't huge in the public eye. Doesn't make me a racist, just means I don't go out of my way to pay attention to assholes",
"No, it’s just you chose to emphasize one word, which is equally ignorant. With no other context it’s wrong to determine whether he meant to emphasize people or countries, which is an important distinction.",
"> He'd rather have more white people from Norway. And that's the racist part.\n\nThat's not racist. Would you say the same thing about him wanting Asians to come in? (as he did say)",
"Anyone who isn't in denial about global affairs agrees with Trump.",
"I'm copying and pasting my comment from above:\n\nThat's totally irrelevant. The reason his saying that caused outrage is because he is the figurehead for the US and for the free world and to a large extent acts as its spokesperson. Simply by using such language a) in this position and b) in the setting in which he used it is to take a massive, steaming shit on the concept that the president and his office operate with decorum, propriety and intellectual maturity. Let alone the fact that what he said was bluntly racist. Sure it might be accurate, or at least partially so, but again, you obviously cannot say things like that in that role and in that public and formal setting. Also, a large part of his job is the maintenance and improvement of international relations. If he cared about or even was at all mindful of these responsibilities, he would hesitate to say things like that.\n\nYour latter two paragraphs are nonsensical. People are generally and overwhelmingly having the opposite reaction to the one you describe.\n\nLol Hillary never once said that. It's ludicrous to pretend that she would ever (publicly or otherwise) want to protect the rights of *illegal* immigrants, at least not without a large and niche caveat, for example she may be willing to support the right of illegal asylum seekers already resident in the US to remain, if deporting them would risk their torture or death.",
"Trump was hostile towards Pakistan and called a bunch of other countries shitholes but it's a bit of a stretch to mash these two things up and say that Trump describes Pakistan as a shithole country too.",
"> Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day\n\nI found an example of someone claiming that he said that but I could not find anything showing that he actually did say that. Try again. ",
"You really need to read that again, he says he talked about both, maybe the better word was referred to both as he talks about the people AND then makes the comment about shithole countries. So yes, he talks about both people and talks about shithole countries when he makes the statement, assuming he actually made that statement. He never says \"Those shithole people from those shithole countries\" which is what you are thinking he said in the statement.",
"Agreed. Hopefully he can learn to keep his stupid comments to himself tho",
"> thats the thing democrats don't get, right now they are basically running Trump's 2020 campaign for him\n\nAnd Reddit is the current campaign committee. All this established is that Trump is an everyman that is relatable to the vast majority of the US population in his way of speaking and that the Democrats are out of touch with common ~~man~~ non gendered otherkin",
"Can you give me an actual qoute from Trump that you consider to be racist?\n\nAlso thanks for demonstrating that you are the racist by failing to come up with any non-whites that you consider to be racist.\n\n",
"Reality says otherwise. ",
"You honestly think previous presidents talked like Ned Flanders behind closed doors all the time?",
"Something something Trump sucks. ",
"I'm stealing that",
"If the people are good and the country is bad, why question taking the people?",
"Not ironic because the point is what where someone comes from doesn't dictate their ability to contribute to society.",
"Stability. 30 years ago Haiti and the DR were roughly at the same level of development, But then a series of political upheavals, almost all orchestrated by the united states, caused Haiti to become unstable and lose foreign investment. Race has nothing to do with it. and btw, the idea that Haiti had less of a colonial burden than the DR is just downright silly - haiti was never recognized by western powers after independence, yet Haiti kept paying disastrous reparations to france - for the slave 'property' it lost in the revolution- up until the 1960's because it hoped the west would finally treat it seriously. Just look at the politics around our invasion and occupation of Haiti and the DR in 1915. We were much much much more brutal with the haitians than with the dominicans - exclusively because of racism. ",
"YES!\n\n- le Reddit",
"> Did he name any predominately white countries? Oh wait...I guess only dark skinned people have bad economies.\n\nWhat predominantly white country sending waves of impoverished migrants to the US is there? ",
"Whooooooosh to everyone saying this shit in this thread. Completely missed the point.",
"She also came here legally.",
"“What is not yours is not yours”. Is this a guide against socialism?",
"Completely missing the point.",
"So it's okay for you to call Russia a shithole country and bring up that fact but when Trump says others are shitholes, when they are, it's bad? Okay, got it.",
"Thats not ironic, it's coincidence",
"\"he's barely running anything\"\n\nand yet he has created a million jobs and the stock market is setting new highs. Maybe the leader of your country could read a few of his books and pick up some pointers. Shaking things up is part of his strategy. That is a big part of how he managed to win his first ever election when he was up against many well funded and well connected career politicians from across the political spectrum. However, I agree that you are welcome to your opinion.",
"Wow this sub has really gone to shit. ",
"I already have many years ago. ",
"Even the poorest parts of the USA have more wealth than much of Europe. If you have a car, a microwave oven, and a TV, you are a prince amongst men in the world",
">Cletus\n\nNo problem, La'Twania",
"That’s it? Seriously? Their combined contribution to the world fit on a small table? ",
"/s",
"I remain woefully unconvinced, of the stat, or the man. But at least we both have the decency to respect the other's right to a differing opinion. So here is to having something in common.",
"I believe in equal rights. I don't believe in generalizing a group of people. I've also called POC racists as well, because I don't tolerate hatred in any form. I'm also not going to link the INTERVIEWS that have Trump on camera saying those things, because honestly I'm going to get on with my day.",
"Okay. Look at his comments regarding the central park five, especially after they were aquitted. \"They're no angles,\" and whatnot. PBS has a good long article about his history of public statements on race. ",
"If you wanted to hire an engineer for your company would you want someone that graduated from a top notch accredited engineering school or someone that came out of a non-accredited school for something else? I'm not claiming that either person is a bad person but I know which one I would want. \n\nHe ran saying that he would look out for what is best for the American people. He is saying that he wants people that are better qualified to help our society. ",
"1. Malala’s book is on the table, which is why OP made that distinction.\n\n2. Malala got shot in the face by her occupational government for being a strong woman with opinions.\n\n3. While technically an Asian country, everyone refers to Pakistan as being part of the greater Middle East.\n\n4. You’re making people hate democrats when you’re that sensitive and stupid.",
"He talked about dissuading people FROM those shit-hole countries immigrating.\n\nIf that is not ample evidence of talking about people and using \"shit countries\" as transitive quality to those people, I don't know what you would need from him to see that.\n\nThe only thing that annoys me out of these stories is the use \"racism\". Because it muddies the water.\nI don't think he is an actual racist. He is an uneducated moron capitalist classicist. He talks about ANYONE that he thinks beneath him in those terms, unless he WANTS something from them, then he is slightly more discerning WHEN to talk about them like that.\n\nWe keep mixing \"unwarranted superiority complexes\" with \"xenophobia\" and with actual racism.\nSome of his voters are ACTUAL racists ( you can recognise them when they talk about inbreeding, as if what they perceive as inferiority is a genetic trait), then you have your typical xenophobe who just \"knows that these people are wrong and we are better, none of them want to behave properly because they hate us\", and then you have classicists like Trump who just thinks that he is better than everyone else, because that is what his entire persona HAS to be built on, otherwise he'd be living under a bridge.",
"It’s children’s fiction—probably well suited for your reading level actually!",
"Thanks for proving me correct. Facts and logic are pesky things aren't they?",
"Even if it is about the people, that doesn't mean it is about race.",
"I think he was mixing Covfefe and Racist. ",
"That means absolutely fuck all, you clown. What’s it ranked for quality of life? Like 140th?",
"Why did they use two #?",
"Haiti is bad because Americans and Europeans have exploited it for centuries.",
"I dont think you understand the concept of racism. It's about power dynamics and control between the dominant group and non-dominant group so requiring me to name a minority who's racist is silly. And as for examples - he constantly falls back on racist stereotypes of people because he's a racist. He's call black people 'lazy', mexicans 'rapists', jewist republicans 'negotiators' etc. You may agree with him, but hint hint it means you're a racist too. ",
"Nope the only thing they said was they were there and they were shithole countries. I’ve been there and I wouldn’t call them shitholes but a lot of other people who saw what I did would. Don’t extrapolate racism or agreal through those comments.",
"Life of Pi, was written by Yann Martel, who was born in Spain, and is now a Canadian citizen. I hope you're not implying that either of those are shithole countries!",
"> That \"di\" at the front of discussion is latin for two\n\nThe root for discussion is \"dis-\" which means apart (think disperse) and -quarte which means to shake. \"To shake apart\" or to investigate a thing.\n\nDi- as two is a Greek prefix and discussion is rooted into English from Latin through French.",
"Oh God no! I just thought he was indian",
"> Can you give me an actual qoute from Trump that you consider to be racist?\n> \n> Also thanks for demonstrating that you are the racist by failing to come up with any non-whites that you consider to be racist.\n\nYou failed to come up with any qoutes or any non-white examples of racists. Thanks for proving me correct on both counts.",
"we've sabotaged Haiti since day one - it began with our refusal to recognize the world’s first black republic in the early 19th century, and continued through the outright invasion and occupation in the early 20th century, the support of the Duvalier dictatorship from the 50’s to the 80’s, USAID eradication of the resilient Creole Pig in the 80’s, the destruction of the rice and poultry industries in the 90’s, the political meddling in the 90’s and 2000’s and the botched response to the Earthquake 8 years ago. You can exclusively blame haitians, but only if you have zero understanding of context and history",
"Good. Democrats shouldn’t be sacrificing their morals to win elections.",
"I live in Pennsylvania, and believe me we have our share of shit holes too. Mount Carmel, Shamokin, Centrallia. ",
"Basically yes, the US gave Haiti 466 million dollars. It's such a shithole that without foreign aid they'd be cannibalizing eachother. Haiti is a welfare case, and you guys should think about why Iceland is so prosperous while Haiti has been africa tier since their revolution",
"People from shithole countries.",
"Needs just a little more work ",
"He is saying that he wants the best qualified people to come. If you were hiring an engineer would you want someone from an accredited school or a non-accredited school?\n\nHe ran saying that he would look out for the interests of the American people not say the Haitian people.",
"I get that but in his first comment he specifically stated he *didn't* talk about the people which is unequivocally incorrect ",
"I literally put things he's said in quotes. And dismissed your second 'count' because it's an absurd false equivalence. You sir, are an idiot who needs to read up on language and logical fallacies. ",
"You're moving the goalposts.",
"\"They're no angles,\" \nFrom what I remember they all had previous arrests. They may not have been guilty of that particular crime but he was correct that they were not angels. ",
"They should make a table for “books written by American immigrants from shithole countries” ",
">I'll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years. \n\nLyndon Johnson\n\n>I have urged the colonization of Negroes [in Africa] and I shall continue. \n\nAbraham Lincoln\n\n>I went nigger chasing again on Monday. Right through central Africa: Vine St.\n\nHarry Truman\n\n>I've looked on many women with lust. I've committed adultery in my heart many times.\n\nJimmy Carter\n\n>African Americans watch the same news at night that ordinary Americans do. \n\nBill Clinton\n\n>That's just how white folks will do you. It wasn't merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some.\n\nBarack Obama\n\nAnd [here's a Time article](http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1995258,00.html) excusing Obama's foul language with multiple examples of other presidential profanities. \n\nSpez: formatting and typo",
"Thanks for proving me correct on both points.",
"This is so cringey it hurts. Just more mindless pearl-clutchers virtue signaling on their fainting couches.",
"All countries are shitholes, depending on where you look.",
"I agree with you. I'm not one of the people who thinks it's a racist policy.",
"r/pics is a shithole.",
"Agreed, have a good day.",
"Yeah really. Again I hate Trump too but there are certainly worse things that he’s done. Saying war torn countries like Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia, Iraq, etc. are shit holes should go without saying. Hell I’ve called them shit holes before. ",
"“Why do we want all these people from 'shithole countries' coming here?”\n\nI think that’s the worst part about what he said. He was insulting the people, not just the country’s.",
"Thank you. You as well.",
"No, I'm raising a valid point.",
"presidents have been using profanity for years. Go read some of the shit Johnson and Nixon said. \n\nHell even Obama has been known to use profanity: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/8/obama-went-profanity-laced-tirade-against-press-wh/\n\nYou know the difference though? Obama got a pass by the press, so instead of printing what he actually said the story just says \"profanities\". But with Trump they print everything no matter how mundane and make it seem like its the second coming of hitler. Its just pure manipulation to drive the narrative. \n\nNo, people in your little safe space bubble are. Because hating trump is the ultimate virtue signal you can do these days. Just the same way everyone in your little circle expected him to lose the election or get indicted. Like I said, wait till 2020, just don't be surprised if he gets re-elected.\n\nAnd she sure as shit did, go watch the ad with the kids she did...half the shit she used for that ad was actually good for trump. And there were tons of ads like that, where is used perfectly fine comments and then used them like it was the worst thing ever.\n\n",
"Obama has been one of the greatest presidents of all time. I would know. I thought he was going to suck and the recovery was fucking excellent. He set up the current economic climate, he left business alone, he had high approval ratings. Basically only did the nuclear deal poorly but IMO it’s not a particularly big issue.\n\nNothing has confused me more than republicans sweeping 2016. The country was in great shape. If they had’ve had a candidate like Jeb Bush I could’ve seen Hillary winning. It’s my opinion this has come down to being excited by a populist candidate. Plus I think democrats have hammered small business way too hard, and there did need to be an identity politics lashback at some point. Still though, I’m confused why people keep voting against their best interests.",
"I dont have to try again. if you are so simple to equate all 'exploited regions' then there's no point discussing anything with you. ",
"The person he was responding to deleted their comment so I can't get exact context but it looks like that person was having a problem with the difference of people and shithole places in the comment. If his comment was as you say simply stating he never talked about the people altogether then yes, you would be correct there as he most definitely does talk about people from those places.",
"\" 'lazy', mexicans 'rapists', jewist republicans 'negotiators' etc.\"\n\nThat is what you said. You just put marks around individual words. You did not give any actual qoutes from Trump and you did not manage to name any non-whites that you consider to be racist.\n\nAgain, thanks for proving me correct on both points.",
"I would prefer to individually vet people based on their individual merits. The business comparison is bunk. We are looking for people who best contribute to society, not for people most capable of a specific job (extremely broad vs relatively narrow). A Ugandan man who planned and constructed schools in his nation has fewer applicable technical skills than a Norwegian doctor but his dedication to improving the circumstances of those around him is something we should be looking for in our citizenry.\n\n> I'm not claiming that either person is a bad person but I know which one I would want. \n\nBut that is what you are saying, you are saying they are worse because they came from X instead of Y.",
"So... OP up there brings citation to his claims, then you just say stuff(that doesn't even negate his point. Profiting a billion dollars is worth $466 million[in America we put the dollar sign before the number, btw] in aid. We still come out ahead). And then you end it all by throwing out some more thinly veiled racism, as if that'll *really* prove your point.\n\nEdit: Shit guys... I'm sorry. I shouldn't have engaged. Did some digging and this guys a straight up holocaust denier. I... I think I'm done here. He makes me feel ill.",
"No, you're trying to make a different point. You're retreating from what you previously asked (\"I'm looking for actual quotes from Trump\") to saying you didn't ask for it.",
"I did ask for an actual qoute from Trump and you failed to come up with one.",
"Grew up in North Georgia, where we had cockroaches in our house the size of a roll of quarters and that wasn't even the worse part. The worse part was the things that came into the house to hunt them..\n\nBut all in all, we had clean water and heat in the winter and food, so can't complain too much compared to other places on this planet. Guess it depends on your level of shithole.",
"If they're not shithole countries then why come to America? Fucking idiots making an issue out of nothing. Also Haiti is a super duper shithole. My cousin is married to a Haitian and that's why he left, scummy place with scummy people",
"Lmao, what are you even talking about?",
"I don't know what you mean with \"personally\" and what this has to do with someone being racist and my ability to judge this based on their writings. \n> If you can only name them from any one race then you are a racist.\n\nPlease think some more on this statement.",
"I guess he can just sugarcoat things like everybody wants him to. He says it how it is and if people get mad then oh well.",
"no no yeah it was totally behind closed doors in a private meeting. He also called leprechauns potato eaters, non magical people mud bloods, and all sorts of stuff we should all freak out about. ",
"But why would they?\nThis is the problem here. He is entirely delusional if the thinks that the US can somehow behave however they want, and have internal problems as big as they want, and then \"people better than the locals\" will just come in drones to.. fix it?\nAnd everyone who isn't already better than local doesn't need to apply.\nThat is some completely whack perspective on reasonable exchange, based on completely delusional self perception.\n\nYou get people who want a better life. Not people who already have one.\nIt also shows a complete lack of understanding of other peoples lives.\nIt builds on this misconception that \"everyone just travels nilly willy\" and thus the people who are looking for an easy way just hop to the US in their private jets. While in reality it takes a HUGE amount of existing motivation to even try or want given the current state of affairs.",
"> but he was trying to speak in candor during a negotiation.\n\nBut the problem isn't with the language. Not the real problem. And no one who is to be taken seriously is arguing that. It's that he's saying we don't want people from these nations because they're worse off than us. He's saying that your grandparents wouldn't have been welcome. But on top of that, he's not really talking about that state of those countries. We all know he's talking about race. What's worse, you'll see people in this very thread throwing out that same dog whistle to defend it. Further up I read \"you guys should think about why Iceland is so prosperous while Haiti has been africa tier since their revolution.\" Well, that's after saying that the Haitians would turn to eating each other if we pulled our aid from the country.",
"Uhm, no. Like I said, it depends which word you choose to emphasize. Those countries are sending immigrants to the US, which may broadly lack skills essential to assimilate to US life because of their poorly functioning governments back home. He has to say “people” because that’s what they’re sending, but as soon as he does people implicate the word “people” to mean he thinks there’s something inherently wrong with them.\n\nI’m not saying that isn’t what he meant, but neither your nor I were there and so we don’t know and never will unless somebody in the room clarifies to a greater extent so it’s useless to try and make a call one way or another with our limited information.",
"So you are claiming that you would prefer an engineer from a non accredited school than from an accredited school? If so I can see why you do not run a company.\n\nAlso Trump did not say cut the number from shithole countries to zero. He said we did not need as many as we are getting and could use some more better qualified immigrants. That is a valid view to take.\n\nAgain, he did not run saying that he would focus on what was best for Haitian citizens, he ran saying that he would focus on what is best for American citizens. There is nothing wrong with that.",
"A billion dollars in sales is a billion in profit? I bet you go around saying Trump is a bad business man\n\nAnd yes. Norweigans are smarter than Haitians. If Haiti was founded by a rebellion of freed Norweigan slaves it would not be Haiti\n\nThis is why liberals will keep losing, a week ago no one would have denied Haiti is a shithole\n",
"\"No puppet. YOU'RE the puppet.\"",
"I have. I get tired of people who call any white person that criticizes someone from a different race a racist. However, all to often that same person is fine with people criticizing any and all white people. \n\nI'm white but I see both white and non-white people that I consider racist and again, frequently when someone is quick to scream racism, they are the racist.",
"Or if it's been founded by the Poles then they'd all be just as racist as you!",
"That’s some verbal gymnastics right there. Trump once said “I could stand in the middle of 5th ave and shoot someone, and I wouldn’t lose any voters”. ",
">So you are claiming that you would prefer an engineer from a non accredited school than from an accredited school? If so I can see why you do not run a company.\n\nNo, I'm disputing the basis of your analogy. Please re-read my post.\n\n>He said we did not need as many as we are getting and could use some more better qualified immigrants.\n\nFalse:\n\n>Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?\n\n>he ran saying that he would focus on what is best for American citizens. \n\nDamaging our international relations is not what is best for American citizens.",
"Yea I figured out that the issue people are having wth the statement was that he was too crass. Yea, those countries are shitholes, but there are better ways to call them shitholes. ",
"Norwegian controlled cities neighborhoods ect seem to be doing pretty well... Africa tho.... hahaha.\n\nWhat's going to happen toJohannesburg, South Africa once all the non-natives are kicked out I wonder?",
"Haiti is the poorest country in the world, the economy shit , their resources are shit, and their infrastructure is shit. They are so poor in some parts they eat dirt cookies. That doesn’t make the people shit by no means, human nature is the same around the world but for some reason they been handing their country in the wrong way in order to fix their status. That’s why some leave their country to a better one and move their families out while others want to too but can’t because of their shitty country and the last who want to stay and fix their country is hard to because it’s such a “shit hole” to begin with. This is true with similar countries in Africa. People who are living in developed first world countries don’t know how good they have it and how bad it is for others. Crybabies. They are spoiled (including me, I’m American in the states) as I mean spoiled is that they could find a job, not the job they want but a job. Could buy food, not the food they want but food, and can live under a roof, not the roof they want but a roof of some sort. And we complain and argue about things that most of the time have no impact on our daily routine or make our life .001 “better” in some way. I’m not a Donald trump supporter, I’m from Texas, Hispanic, and an Aggie undergrad in engineering. Be honest, before he had made the comment how many of us really cared or even remembered the countries he mentioned. I didn’t. I still don’t but I care the US and I’m tired of the political hissy fits. Their are important matters to debate about and the vast majority are being distracted by things like this while the major decisions are being made or being pushed aside by congress that you voted for. I’m going to step of my soap box now, I hope I made a difference but I know statistically it won’t.",
"Is it?",
"Pretty sure he didn't say \"white people from Norway\" just \" from Norway\".",
"Yes.",
"His point is that we should be letting people in that will benefit us not just themselves and yes we have a lot to offer people with skills and abilities. If we spent less time focusing on people who bring problems then we would have more time to focus on helping actual citizens. Again he is the US president. He ran saying that he would focus on what is best for the American people.",
"It's only been one day. Relax.",
"A certain demographic has really embraced the term. I can’t believe how much of a trendsetter Trump has become. ",
"That's racist, your a racist.",
"So we can stop sending them billions of dollar in aid and let them take care of themselves now right? Cuz our inner-cities could use the same cultural handouts we've been sending across the atlantic to their cousins for decades now.",
"Continually absorbing more problems is not what is best for the American citizens. If they have something of value to offer okay but just because they show up does not mean that we owe them anything.",
"Sure, so why is the other half of that island (DR) doing so much better socially and economically? It had all of the same historical issues. just one fairly obvious difference.",
"Isn't Centrallia basically a ghost town because of the mine fire? ",
"Trump said all those things...famously - that's why i put them in quotes (not marks). this is reddit. not a white paper. And fine, many dictators including mao and trujillo i would consider non-white racists. now what? what does that show? ",
">I would prefer to individually vet people based on their individual merits.\n\nLearn to read.",
"Because his opinion is different from yours?\nIf you want to make a difference try to convince him why he should not think those countries are shitholes, and not attack him.",
"You have to click the links and read them. If you're using a mobile phone, use your finger to tap them instead.",
"Shithead propagandists can't ever stick to the truth.",
"How's it feel? How does it feel to say your country is a shithole and that they don't want you here because of racist assumptions?",
"got it. I think the real crime here is his knowledge of geography but that aside: Here is the list of countries represented by this table and designated a shithole by this bookstore. Also most of these books were written in the US by authors who came here before the age of 6:\nPakistan\nNigeria\nHaiti\nEngland\nDominican Republic \nSouth Africa\nAfghanistan \nJamaica\nGhana\nCamaroon\n\nand my personal favorite\n\nTHE UNITED STATES",
"Why are most caucasian cultures more prosperous across the globe compared to their higher melanin concentration counterparts? Seriously.\n\nHell even the island across the globe where England shipped their undesirables turned out pretty well 'eh?",
"You qouted individual words not statements that he or anyone else ever made. i don't think you understand the concept of a qoute.",
"FUCK THIS BOOK STORE! RACIST PIGS. IF I WERE FROM THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC I'D BE SO OFFENDED!",
"Semantics. Yup. ",
"Pointing to presidential profanity, Obama was quoted as claiming Cameron and the UK made Libya a “shithole” and Biden got caught on canera calling the ACA a “big fucking deal”. The latter example was actually made into shirts sold by the DNC. While Trump’s comment, well, trumps them, it is a report confirmed only by two people “familiar with the meeting”. If anyone there has publically confirmed, or WaPo has anonymous confirmation I’ll take it with less than a grain of salt, but for now I am a bit skeptic. I think the problem arises when we are talking about a macro scale, and specifically about current immigration policy and the latest immigration deal as opposed to Trump’s policy. Malala Yousofzai is not representative of her people. She is a woman’s rights activist who was shot by her own people for simply seeking education. Since then her education and opportunity has come from abroad. Under current immigration law, we don’t just pick Malalas. We get the guys who happily forbade their daughters from going to school, or the boys who wanted to be Taliban. We get men who learned in madrasas, who then sponsor every other family member they can, who in turn sponsor THEIR family. We take in “temporary relief” that turns into decades long stays, as seen regarding complaints around Haitians and El Salvadorians. \n\nSurprisingly, Trump’s immigration policy is pretty egalitarian, in that a merit based system ensures we get people generally like those writers, without taking in the general populace that resulted in their countries becoming, well, shitholes. And in what follows, we would see on average MORE Europeans and Asians immigrating to the US in comparison to Africa (with Nigeria being a possible exception due to their huge exportation of medical students and doctors) and parts of Latin America, because if we’re going by merit, the average Italian or Japanese is more likely to know English, be better educated, have more money to invest in the economy, and have better skills and job options than the average Honduran or Haitian. Hell, the average Dominican is a big step above the average Haitian, and they share the same island! Anderson Cooper may be right in that the Haitians have a resilience and pride to them, and Trump may be coarse in saying that taking in people from impoverished and troubled countries is worse than taking in Norweigans, while taking the opportunity to insult those poor countries. This is kind of incorrect on Trump’s angle, because a Malala would be a bigger boon to the US (or the UK, in her case) than some dude named Lars out of Lilliehammer who barely graduated high school. But if you compare the average Norweigan to the average Afghani, and then are asked to pick a random group of ten Afghanis or Norweigans, anyone would pick the Norweigans as the likely better deal. ",
"I feel great, Poland is a great country of smart and hardworking people. I am in no way upset about what some retarded lib thinks that we are comparable to an african nation with an average IQ of 70.",
"The problem is that he defines \"people worthy of our attention\" as exactly THOSE people who have literally almost nothing to gain from immigrating to the US. (Like Norwegians).\nWhich leads exactly to only those people immigrating that exactly do so for their own benefit in a hardcore capitalist system rather than benefiting \"you\".\n\nWhich, btw seems to clash with the underlying principle of \"if everyone does what is best for them, that builds a strong society\"...\n\nSo defining \"best for us\" is \"worse for the ones we trade with\" is an underlying issue here. What is the basis for thinking that the world is a set of resources that can be lopsidedly mined without paying for it?\n\nHe's an uneducated moron with zero understanding of what motivates people and a pathologically warped self image.",
"That his comments are factual and they come off as in the way a normal person speaks about shitty countries even if they pretend to be \"offended\".\n\nWe all know most of Africa and S America is a shithole but we just don't say it out loud :D",
"Agreed. I was just referring to the use of semantics. ",
"I think he meant he would rather have educated people with skills entering America rather than the opposite who come in disadvantaged and an immediate burden. ",
"They're really banking on people still listening to the news.",
"The ‘top’ people from these countries should really stay where they are to make their home country better. But the reality is that they’d rather have a life in North America than do that.\nWe need to improve the rest of the world, and that can’t be done by taking in the best or the worst of other countries.",
"He wants either good deals or no deals. \n\nIf zero people want to come that is fine but if they come he wants them to bring something to the table. If they are not bringing anything of value then he does not want them to come.",
">I get tired of people who call any white person that criticizes someone from a different race a racist\n\nPeople that do that based on race are by definition racist. Sorry that you get tired by that, but that's the way it is.\n>I'm white but I see both white and non-white people that I consider racist\n\nThats fine\n>frequently when someone is quick to scream racism, they are the racist.\n\nI don't follow this logic, but even if this is true: \n\n- Frequently as in what %?\n\n- What is quick in your book and why do you apparently apply it to me?",
"Lmao",
"It will, my pay cheque went up as of next week because of it and my company is able to spend a ton more money on R&D and bring one new people. \n\nThat money will be spent on things, maybe improving my home, maybe I'll have spare money to spend downtown. Each thing I buy with that extra cash from the tax cut is then taxed locally - and federally. Funneling money to things like school and infastructure. 8)",
"Alright reddit are we really not going to admit some states are shit holes? Honestly now.",
"So you lied when you said \"I get he shouldn’t call it that\"? Looks like you don't get it after all.\n\nAnd no, using slang words is not saying it how you see it. You can express the truth about the conditions without being derogatory.",
"He said he didnt want immigration from shithole countries, how is that not reflective of the people in those countries..? ",
"Average. Poland ranks *average*. You're behind half of Europe and all of Asia in IQ(since you want to use that as a data point). Same with GDP. \n\nBut I get it. When you're mediocre it makes you feel better to imagine others are lesser than you because of their race. That way you don't have to do anything to be better than them. It's why racists thrive so well in the 1st world. It's not your fault, it's probably just how you were raised.",
"He said those words, i dont need to provide you with context. they're extremely famous examples of his dimwitted stereotyping. but more importantly, what about your second brilliant point??? what about the non-white racists?? So at the very least we're 50/50. and really, since i did give you quotes despite your confusion, your shooting a 0-2.",
"Sure, which is why I talked about his perception of what constitutes a \"good\" deal, vs what realistically is one that requires the other parties to be gypped.\n\nThat is prone to happen if you are completely delusional about both sides realistic factors of the exchange.\nIf you are fundamentally incapable to realistically assess what YOU bring to the table, and what the other side does, evaluations of what is a good deal and what is not is bound to yield situations where not only do you pass on objectively good deals by the boatload, the ones you to define as good are bound to be ones where YOU are being played instead.\nLike thinking that immigrants from \"not shit countries\" that actually take the deal will actually benefit YOU instead of themselves.",
"yeah, but we've been making other parts of the world worse for so many years. we many want to wash our hand of it and say 'hey, you're on your own!' like we did in iraq, but that's pretty scummy. Instead we should do something simlar to what we're doing now. paying a lot in aid to many of these countires (to boost salaries of govt workers making it more appealing to stay) and having some come here to see first hand what a relatively stable country looks like so they can replicate it back home. i think it should be a balance. ",
"Then what the fuck are you letting in? Air?\n\nRobots? What?",
"> Except Haiti it's bad because of Haitians.\n\nHaiti is bad (at least in part) because of America. America has either assassinated or funded the overthrow of various democratically elected leaders throughout the history of Haiti. On top of that Haiti is an island with few natural resources in the path of most major hurricanes siting near a fault line, so another major part of Haiti's condition is exactly \"bad land\". The people of Haiti aren't bad people, and letting a few dozen Haitians come to America each year won't have any effect on the culture of the 300 Million Americans already here.",
"😂 ",
"^ Still thinks it isn't.\n\nGood day person, and have fun at your tinfoil hat building party later tonight!",
"Haitians have lower IQ than conservatives, with an average of 69",
"Come on now dude, that’s kind of harsh, it’s not good that people who claim to be Muslim kill others and I understand that and some people don’t like other ethnicities which is a relatively unknown thing to myself as I don’t like to judge but you’ve got to understand that every group has got their own faults but they still have their own good people, the only problem is that the faulty people are put in the spotlight while the good and kind hearted keep to themselves, I’m not here to start something, but it would be cool if you could try to open your mind a bit",
"> Because his opinion is different from yours?\n\nA straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.",
"So IQ is real when it comes to making the point that Poland is average, but not real when all of Africa is 70 and below. Also I notice to diss Poland you say it's average when compared to Europe and Asia, I wonder why didn't say average in the world\n\n (world IQ is lower than 100, 100 is the average for white people)",
"> La'Twania\n\nWho?",
"I think the likes of Obama could talk business with senators without calling places \"shitholes\" and simplifying things down to an idiotic level.",
"But, the offensive part isn't that he called the countries shitholes, it's that he didn't want people from those countries coming to America.",
"How is that even similar? The use of the word \"shit\" is not the problem with what Trump said... No wonder he got so many votes if people like you can't understand such basic things. ",
"> We need to get past the idea that\n\nWhy? ",
"I’m going on a hiking trip to the mountains and I need one more person to take with me.\n\nDo I take the Norwegian who has climbing experience and knows how to climb? Or do I take the Haitian who has never even seen a mountain in his life?\n\nGet the picture? Importing people from third world countries where they can’t even grow a crop properly is not how you add to the overall success of a country. If a person has absolutely nothing to contribute why would you bring them in?\n\nThis has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the fact that Haiti is such a shithole that it’s almost dead last on the Human Development Index. \n\nI understand compassion, believe me, but I’m not burning my house down because my neighbor has no heat.",
"Hahaha...you are right on the money. Home run!",
"Because the dude's not going to change no matter how many reddit posts are made in outrage. We can expect our future candidates to be better but this guy is like your old drunkard uncle. ",
"> yes everyone thought that\n\nNo they didn't. You like to believe everyone is down on the same level as you, but they aren't. Especially top leaders of the world. \n\n> Thats how adults talk in the real world.\n\nIt is how low IQ drunks talk, in a bar. Nobody that understands the economics and social issues of other nations would talk like that. Trump is a moron, and idiots like you are the enablers. ",
"Ya gonna have to explain to me America’s role in instability because from what I’ve read the problems plaguing Haiti are a direct result of gross corruption and abuse by your own government. ",
"Yeah, but there’s still a few very stubborn white trash old people that refuse to leave. But the surrounding towns are complete wastelands. It’s coal country, and mining died in PA over half a century ago, so the local economies of those towns went with it. Thus, the towns are sparsely populated by trashy inbred hillbillies. ",
"More reliable than your source that he said it",
"What are you trying to say?",
"No, that's the point being made by whoever set up the display in the picture. ",
"Yes but he's a sitting president. The bar should be somewhat higher, especially because he could've said it so much better. He could have given any reason, however flimsy, but instead he resulted to petty insults against an entire continent. ",
"I honestly have no fucking clue. It’s so cold here I think my brains frozen solid.",
"So you agree that Norweigans are smarter than Haitians? ",
"I'm generally with you. However, wasn't the setting supposed to be a closed meeting? I may be mistaken, but that's hardly a public setting. If maintaining international relations was of the utmost importance, whomever leaked Trump's comments had an equally low regard for the fallout.",
"Mississippi is the worst state in the Union by most metrics. There are certainly shithole areas, but even then, it has regionally competitive universities, a half-decent economy, and plenty of opportunity with a good QoL for the skilled and ambitious. Plus a lot of the cities are growing. Meanwhile Port au Prince looks like Dresden crica 1945. Internet commentors and late night talk show hosts just want to twist themselves in a knot to defend failed states and disparage the US because Trump was mean. ",
"Oh. Well his comment pretty much was just \"He was talking about the place not the people\" which is just wrong. \n\nAnd I agree that even if he didn't talk about the people being shitholes that he implies they have less value or considerations because of where they're from. Imagine saying \"People from shithole states like Kentucky shouldn't move to other states in search of better opportunities\". Wut. ",
"He's the president and should be diplomatic. You know, most people learn pretty early on in life that because something might be true doesn't mean it's acceptable to declare it in any situation. ",
"Well, we do know that what he said is still unproven hearsay so it's still a leap to make that point.",
"> it's still a leap to make that point.\n\nREALLY? Trump?! Have you ever seen his tweets? ",
"> Yes they fucking do.\n> \n> \n> \n> EVERYONE CURSES you dumb bitch.\n\nWe are not talking about cursing.... You said everyone thinks of those countries in that way. Which is factually wrong and a stupid thing to say. \n\n> If you never called a place a shithole in your life then you are a lying sack of shit. Stop lying.\n\nI call places shitholes all the time... But I'm not leading a nation. You think professors who study world history would get asked about the state of African countries and say, \"Well they are just shitholes?\" Get a clue. \n\n> What do you really hope to gain from lying about something so insignificant? \n\nIt isn't insignificant at all. It might be to you because it doesn't affect your Callodooty, but it is very significant. \n\n",
"I don't agree that IQ is an adequate data point to determine that and from here on our I refuse to participate in your racist bullshit. I'm done with you. I don't argue with holocaust deniers. There's no point when we can't agree on what constitutes a fact. ",
"Why can you expect it to be better in the future if nobody cares about this guy? It is only because of the people who speak up about how bad this moron is that we stand any chance of making things better. ",
"which and why did you go to them?",
"This doesn't really have anything to do with using profanity though... How do you not understand that after all this time? ",
"yes, the people have inherently characteristics that make their countries shitholes, being shitty people, and if you believe this, you're the shithole.",
"Why weren't people losing their shit for this?\nhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/barack-obama-says-david-cameron-allowed-libya-to-become-a-s-show-a6923976.html",
"I think it’s because a Roman priest off the north coast of Roman Africa, educated and raised under Roman rule and neither local nor caliphate rule, is not representative of Africa in general, then or now. Also, while modern Algeria is indeed in Africa, it has nothing or little to do with Roman Africa, and really doesnt represent much of central or southern Africa either. \n\nBasically it feels like someone grabbed Malala’s book and Beasts with No Nation and then started running around trying to fill the table, not realizing that the conditions which made a supposed “shithole” so good was Roman subjugation. ",
"He just said what everyone already knows, and are too afraid to say because of the PC left. The immigration they love so much proves it. If these countries weren't shitholes, and Trump was wrong, then you'd see no immigration from them. He just calls a spade a spade. I'm glad he does.",
"A political statement in a store promoting free speech & press has to censor themselves in order to displace said political statement promoting free speech & press.\n\n*bangs keyboard with head^isthatblood? *\n\nI get it, the high numbers of tighttwatted puritans in this country require the standards department to make some effort to rebuke complaints, but fucking hell.",
"I don’t think the point is “The President is correct and these places are actually shitholes.”",
"I agree with what you’re saying. But I don’t think people would go back home for the most part.",
"I don't think you understood my comment.",
"No one does because the 6 million is just a jewish prewar prophecy, and you've been brainwashed to attack anyone who challenges that its a historical fact",
"Please explain why you think that. Because I don’t think you understood my comment.",
"Doesn’t it kind of work against you if you’re using the same ignorant language to make a statement? It almost feels opportunistic to have a display like this in a bookstore. ",
"What's your favorite color?",
"It's a bit of hyperbole, and I don't mean irreparably. But in my opinion the chest-thumping MAGAtards are among the least qualified people on Earth to talk about what makes America great. They have done more to damage it that to build it.",
"Oh I agree. When you have such a high seat of power you certainly should have more professionalism and respect. Trump has neither. ",
"> two beggars from the streets of Haiti\n\nBut he specifically made his comment while in a meeting about the Diversity Visa Program (AKA the Visa Lottery). You have to have the equivalent of a US high school degree and 2 years of experience in a specific list of jobs to even apply. Of those who are accepted on this program 30% have bachelors degrees. No one's talking about vagabonds off the street.\n\nBesides, the fictional grandparents you're talking about wouldn't come in under this program anyway. That would be a totally different program with different limits on how many people can come into the country through that program. It's not either or. Trump is the president. He should know this before going into a meeting about the program. There's no good excuse for his comment.",
"... Because he called the country a shithole not the people. He doesnt want people shaped by shit hole countries. Doesnt mean all people from that country are bad. Bit if we had to choose, the less shitholey the country the better.",
"People vote against their interest because of tribalism. They view their party as a religion ",
"Whatever dude, it’s offensive as hell to people living in these countries and it doesn’t matter if you make a stupid semantic interpretation or not. He is a moron, and if you can’t see that you are delusional. ",
"Who goes to Nigeria for a summer vacation\nAnd Haiti is even worse",
"Our current immigration numbers are incredibly high at 1 million per year. I also disagree with the idea that we’ll be letting in a lot more Africans. We might see more Nigerians, yes, but we’ll also see less Somalis and Ugandans. I also disagree with the idea that no educated Norweigans, or Europeans at all for that matter, would be entirely dissuaded from moving to the US because “Trump is a racist”. The US has a higher ecenomic ceiling with many more world class universities and research institutions and far more industry. A Norweigan accountant may think that life in his homeland may beat better opportunity in America, but an ambitious software engineer, chemist or entrepenuer may decide that America’s opportunity beats Norway’s. Sillicon Valley will definitely beat Sillicon Fjord in terms of opportunity. We see a lot of that in Canada’s tech labor market, for example. Why live in Vancouver when Seattle is right across the border? You may see a few average Joes who would never immigrate anyways say they wouldn’t leave, but the guy who thinks he’s got a million dollar idea or skillset won’t be dissuaded from a better market and opportunity unless he’s really politicaly motivated. ",
"By trying to poke fun at Trump's comments, they themselves labeled certain countries as shitholes, countries which Trump himself did not label as shitholes. ",
"Sweden and Germany are not equivalent to Somalia, unless your cherry picking skills are out of this world.",
"/r/kerning ",
"This is why you guys dont have nice things",
"To be clear, the words in parenthesis are being said by everybody but Trump.",
"No, he's targetting their birthplaces based on them being shit holes.",
"We’ve got our grips around centers of most industries, particularly relating to tech, science, finance and the academy. In addition, we’ve got a much larger population and scale of industry with much higher opportunity ceilings. While healthcare may be marginally more expensive (or even less expensive, for higher income earners), the quality of life and potential for advancement is very high. The only people who would refuse those opportunities because of the state of US politics are heavily politically motivated individuals who in all likelihood would not be particularly ambitious if something like a temporary, elected leader saying things that offend them would offset them from such opportunity. ",
"Yes. It’s not that he called the countries shitholes. It’s that he said we don’t want the people from those shitholes. ",
"Because he said we don’t want people from those shitholes implying the people themselves are shitty. ",
"That's part of what the debate is around and why many (myself included) want to see a merit based system. We need to start thinking more about what's best for America, rather than helping people \"escape.\"",
"Trump was just talking about the quality of that country, not making a remark about the personal qualities of all of its people.",
"Oh i think he's delusional. I was just explaining the two interpretations",
"Oh okey, thanks for that. ",
"[Good lord](https://www.reddit.com/r/holocaust/comments/7nfzrn/can_this_be_debunked/).",
"Do you think all of these writers would appreciate their countries being labeled as shitholes?",
"It’s sad to see American ideals crumbling before my eyes. ",
"I disagree, I think Trump was trying to say the benefit to the US of getting someone from a country with no solid education system,etc compared to getting one who does is drastically different and one is obviously more beneficial than the other to the US as a whole. He just said it in his stupid trump-speak, and even then, he has denied saying it if i'm not mistaken.",
"That bookstore looks familiar.\nIs this The Strand in NYC?",
"Guys what is this 'shitthole' thing about, im out of the loop :/\n",
"Ok. I'd rather have a peaceful and prosperous country to pass on to my children, rather than a country which follows a made up ideal to poverty and failure. ",
"[World IQ by Country](https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php)",
"I didn’t say not to care. I said he’s not changing. He is who he is. ",
"Yeah I think you're giving him way to much credit imo. I've come to learn he just says whatever he thinks without much thought behind it",
"You mean Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham, and the Trump team's initial non-denial that he said it?",
"Anyone who is out of the loop on the latest Trump tweets is going to be wildly offended.",
"Last I checked, it wasn't the 1850s. Why would he be complaining about that now? Note how my comment was clearly in the present tense. Please point to a current situation that the sitting president would be talking about.\n\nAlso, yes, Ireland was a shithole back then.",
"That’s certainly a discussion people can have, the economic costs and benefits of immigrants and all their future descendants. [Five things economists know about immigration](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/01/29/five-things-economists-know-about-immigration/).\n\nWhat I don’t understand is why can’t a “stable genius” like Trump articulate such arguments and make a convincing case one way or another?",
"Okonkwo, more like Ogaykwo.",
"> How is that even similar?\n\nMy first language is french, but I'm not seeing that much difference between \"shithole\" and \"shit show\". If somebody said my neighborhood was one or the other, I don't think I would react that much differently. One implies its a passive mess while the other implies a more active mess, but in the end it's still saying that the place is a terrible mess.",
"What's changed since then is that we now have a welfare state. Over 50% of immigrant headed households are on some form of government assistance. During the times of peak Irish and Italian immigration people came here and either succeeded or failed on their own merits. Many even returned home. \n\nI'd be fine with maintaining our current immigration system if we significantly trimmed our welfare system and made immigrants permanently ineligible. ",
"He's offended by it because he is racist so its in his interest to defend other racists. ",
"trump didn't specify which countries are shitholes so it's actually liberal objectors deciding what country is a shithole lol",
"Another thing we know is that immigrants disproportionately receive government assistance (over 50% of immigrant headed households). I'm surprised that didn't make the list of things economists know about immigration. \n\nI think the choice comes down to an open immigration policy and having a welfare state, we can't have both. ",
"I merely asked you a question which you seem to be unable to answer. You have resorted to saying I'm rationalizing my way out of something (by merely asking you a question) when it appears it's you who is doing this. You misrepresented what he said, didn't address the point I made and then you doubled down on your accusation adding nothing to the conversation. Good- bye youngster, you add nothing to the conversation.",
"I'd love a stat on that.",
"Yes them",
"The people you're talking about didn't even say it didn't happen, just that they don't remember.",
"K. https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households\n\nFor future reference, I typed \"immigrant headed households welfare\" into Google. ",
"Yes they are",
"You didn’t answer my question about Trump though.\n\nBut about this:\n\n> immigrants disproportionately receive government assistance\n\nWhat is the return on that financial investment including their descendants? Children receive a lot of government assistance too, but many eventually get jobs, pay taxes, and provide an economic return that outweighs the investment put in.",
"Fantastic! [Rough Draft](https://www.roughdraftny.com/) in Kingston, right?",
"Since the alternative is turning our country into a shithole",
"Trump said things.",
"The president asked \"Why should we accept people from [sic] shithole countries?\" when discussing immigration. Although in this particular case he was referring to Caribbean and African countries, he has targeted Muslim countries repeatedly. The bookstore is making a counterpoint with the amazing talent of people from the countries the president don't want to accept immigrants from.",
"It’s not like Trump got up in front of America and called everyone else shitholes. It’s just heresay from a meeting. Look at his twitter if you want insight into his logic. Why the fuck would you want to import people from poverty stricken, high crime areas?",
"You got defensive before you even wrote anything, you have some issues.",
"\"Why would we want people from shithole countries?\" isn't targeting the people?",
"Ok. Merit-based. Gotcha. Exactly what Trump wants. ",
"I thought the comment was straightforward, and you just chose to be ignorant because you like confrontation over the internet.",
"LBJ used to whip his dick out in he Oval Office. Don’t be a pussy. ",
"> Stability. 30 years ago Haiti and the DR were roughly at the same level of development, But then a series of political upheavals, almost all orchestrated by the united states, caused Haiti to become unstable and lose foreign investment. \n\nSo America was at fault for the 1988 and 1991 coups, but then we also restored the guy deposed in the 1991 coups? Hmmm that doesn't quite add up. \n\n> Race has nothing to do with it. \n\nThat we agree on. I think it's a cultural issue, since there are many successful Afro-caribbean nations. I work regularly in Haiti and I have never dealt with more dishonest, selfish, and deceitful people anywhere else in the world. \n\n> and btw, the idea that Haiti had less of a colonial burden than the DR is just downright silly - haiti was never recognized by western powers after independence, yet Haiti kept paying disastrous reparations to france - for the slave 'property' it lost in the revolution- up until the 1960's because it hoped the west would finally treat it seriously. \n\nYou can't deny that Haiti brutally invaded and occupied the D.R. for decades, so they don't get to whine about colonialism while also having engaged in it. The fact that Haiti payed reparations to a country it defeated in a war is so stupid and any country willing to do that is beyond help. \n\n> Just look at the politics around our invasion and occupation of Haiti and the DR in 1915. We were much much much more brutal with the haitians than with the dominicans - exclusively because of racism.\n\nWhat metric are you using to determine that one occupation was worse than the other? \n\n",
"> Economically speaking, American immigrants from Africa are more likely to be educated, speak English, and get jobs once they're here than immigrants from other countries. \n\nGreat. I'm all for the best coming in at reasonable levels. That being said, the immigrants currently here under TPS that the President was talking about are not those educated professionals you're referring to. \n\n> This is not because that's true for people in general from those countries, but because no highly educated \"Norwegian\" wants to emigrate to a country with an openly racist president, for one. \n\nBut Africans do? Hmm.....\n\n>One thing that gets left out of debate is that if we switch to a more merit based system of immigration that means letting in more Africans not fewer. That's why Miller's plan cuts total immigration numbers - that's the only way to lower the number of black people coming in.\n\nI would like to see overall immigration numbers cut and a merit system implemented, if that means a greater portions of Africans coming in, then ok. \n\n",
"Few people are stating that these are not troubled countries. However the remark was done in a statement plainly advocating for discrimination. When saying \"Why should we accept these people?\" he is not recognizing the talent and value from people because of their countries of birth, a ridiculous world view, and one that should be shunned upon. He is in top of that being shamelessly insulting when doing so.",
"You'd think a stable genius could articulate himself more than an 8th grader trying to sound edgy and cool. Also it seems you're wrong given the statement he made asked why we would want to import people from said countries implying they too are shit.",
"I love how they think they've found some great argument nobody thought of. But but guys Haitia IS a shithole. Yea, no shit it's not a nice country. First of all I'd hope our stable genius president could come up with a better descriptor maybe one that isn't offensive to the people there, maybe one that doesn't reduce it to a single word and perhaps takes into account historical and environmental context. And second the guy said we don't want people from those countries so he's insulting the people not just the country.",
"I don't think the President is a great speaker, but overall he implements great policies. I care more about the latter. \n\nIf you think of immigration as potentially gaining a return on a financial investment, why not start by only allowing the most financially secure and highest skilled immigrants to come in. Besides that though, I do want the overall level of immigration in this country brought down. ",
"Honest question, do you believe taking in millions upon millions of low skill labors will be a positive thing considering everything is leaning towards automation and job low tier job loss? Seriously? ",
"The people of Pakistan do not deserve humanitarian aid? I think they had the largest terrorist attack on their soil last year but okay\n",
"This is ironic. Here people are, making fun and barking at Trump for calling some countries \"shitholes,\" and yet you're showing books written by authors who wrote about how shitty their countries are.\n\nAll you're doing is proving Trump's point instead of the opposite.\n\nI hate Trump as much as everybody else, but you people are only making this shit worse and proving him right at the same time. Knock it off.",
"He said he didn't want people from those shithole countries, he wanted them from Norway. That's the problem. I don't know why people are latching to a damn word and not the context.",
"I think you're all morons and you're all racist. Dems and Republicans all talk about minorities like some sort of commodity. ",
"He wants to ban immigration from there. That's the context, he doesn't want people from those shithole countries. Why is it a stretch?\n",
"> Look at his twitter if you want insight into his logic.\n\nI do but there Trump doesn’t talk details about financial cost and benefits of immigration or immigrants from certain countries. He doesn’t link to graphs or data to elaborate or make eloquent points about it. There isn’t much insight to be gained there.\n\nIt’s up to anonymous internet commenters to guess what Trump meant and make arguments on his behalf.\n\n> Why the fuck would you want to import people from poverty stricken, high crime areas?\n\nI’m not sure what you’re trying to imply. We all come from homes, neighborhoods, or countries that many other people would label shitholes. But it turns out that people, when given a chance and an education, can do great things and be a financial and social benefit to society. That’s the American dream right? That even a poor kid from a shithole background can grow up and live a good life.",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States\n\nThe US has a long history with Domestic Terrorism, and I am sure many politicians who have been elected even have ties. So are you saying we as a country never deserve help from anyone, because some politicians are corrupt?",
"\"if you are completely delusional about both sides realistic factors of the exchange\"\nHe has been managing to repeatedly close multi million dollar deals for decades. I'm guessing you are still working on your first. Are you really that ignorant that you think that you know better than him how to bring two different sides together to close a deal?",
"It's possible he was in the wrong and no one called him on it. Doing that in almost any office in 2018 would land him on the sex offender registry.",
"Unlike you, I do understand the concept of a qoute and it is not single individual words. \n\nFrom websters\n\nquote\nkwōt/Submit\nverb\n1.\nrepeat or copy out (a group of words from a text or speech), typically with an indication that one is not the original author or speaker.\n\nOne word is not a group of words and I am none to confident that he even said those individual words.\n\nAlso no you have not given me any non-white racist examples so you have proven me correct on both counts.",
"He said he did not want as much immigration from shithole countries. He wants immigrants that will contribute to this country. \n\nHe ran saying that he was going to act in the best interest of the American people. He did not claim that he was going to act in support of the Haitian people. Is this really that hard of a concept to grasp?",
"Do you think corrupt politicians will be fair and honest in handing out aid?",
"Which states do you consider to be shithole states and why? Some do not have enough kids for you to molest?",
">Cletus \n\nWho?",
"Calling a country a shithole is a little different from calling foreign policy a shit show. \n\nBoth were unbecoming of a man in office, Obama attacked a political leader directly while Trump insulted an entire country; it's people and their homeland. \n\nA more relevant example:\nWhen people said Obama was a shitty president, they were not attacking America. \n\n",
"Can you name people a few chipmunks from Japan? If not you are a chipmunk from Japan. What the hell is your logic lol",
"> If you think of immigration as potentially gaining a return on a financial investment, ...\n\nWhat I *think* doesn’t matter. What matters is what economics data and research shows, which is that immigration is financially beneficial. People being free to move around grows the economy faster and increases innovation.\n\n> why not start by only allowing the most financially secure and highest skilled immigrants to come in.\n\nLetting in more financially secure and highly skilled workers is what’s been happening in America for a long time. But in addition to that, American companies need workers at various skill and education levels to operate effectively and grow. That’s why it’s economically beneficial to have more immigration.\n\n> I do want the overall level of immigration in this country brought down.\n\nBased on what reasons exactly (financial/social/other)? Just curious.",
"No my point is that if you only single out people from one race to hurl the term racist at then you are the one being racist. For someone that can see racist people from many different races and cultures this is a simple easy request. Your statement is just gibberish.",
"> Letting in more financially secure and highly skilled workers is what’s been happening in America for a long time. But In addition to that, American companies need workers at various skill and education levels to operate effectively and grow. That’s why it’s economically beneficial to have more immigration.\n\nThat's not what's happening at all. The majority of immigrant headed households are on some form of government assistance. The Diversity Visa Program is not based on merit. Chain migration is not based on merit. Even the countries the President referred to as shitholes was in the context of Temporary Protected Status, which refers to people otherwise eligible for deportation, so these people are not here based on merit. \n\n> Based on what reasons exactly (financial/social/other)?\n\nI think we have enough people here already and I prefer to live in a community and country with people that share my culture and values. \n",
"I am sure corrupt politicians will not be fair and honest in handing out aid, that does not mean a country doesn't deserve aid. Pakistan has the second most terrorist attacks worldwide, and had the 5th most deaths in 2015. If they were in bed with the terrorists you would imagine this would be a little less. From my understanding, the Pakistani government makes concessions to them as they are not able to fight, and the Taliban reduces the amount they kill Pakistani people. I don't call that harboring, I call that a weak military.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_terrorist_incidents_by_country",
"Cool. Go there and give them all a twenty. Don't give it to their fucking rogue state government.",
"No you are not racist if you can't identify racists from other races, gullible maybe, but not racist. You are racist if you think another race is less than your own race strictly because of ethnicity. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of your statement, not being able to identify a thing does not make you that thing.",
"If it were up to Trump we wouldn't have immigrants from so called shit holes",
"No 2 time failed presidential candidate from Arkansas? Sad.",
"Harboring is what you call it when you tell the people looking for the terrorists that they are somewhere else, when in fact you are hiding them in your back yard.",
"I'm pretty sure we know and they know the Taliban are in Pakistan...",
"I didn't mean to imply highly skilled immigrants are the majority, just that they have an easier time immigrating. And that a policy of *only* letting in those types of immigrants would be economically bad for the US. Companies need workers at various skill levels. That's what economists have shown.\n\nAnd I'm curious now :) I have more questions:\n\n> I prefer to live in a community ...\n\nWhat is your community? Is it rural? Urban? Midwestern? Coastal? Blue collar workers? Business owners?\n\n> ... with people that share my culture and values. \n\nThe immigrants I've worked with and been friends with shared my values of working hard, liking similar movies and TV shows, helping friends and family, wanting their kids to get a good education... I'm curious what values do you have that you think immigrants don't have?",
"There are been studies that show Sweden is poised to be a third world country by 2030 due to lax immigration polices. Some have stated, \"you adobt third world immigrants and a third world is what you get.\"\n\nI know this generalizes things a bit much, but the point is that many people that go to a *better* country, bring their way of life with them and if there is nothing in place that forces them to be a better value to the country, then all you get is large numbers of transplants that may end up feeding off the system because they don't have the skills or abilities to make it better for themselves.\n\nPersonally, I've looked at Canada to see what it would take for me to move there and start a new life and it's difficult! Unless you're in a desired career field and/or can prove that you won't be a drain on their economy, you will have a hard time doing it legally. How come the US can't have some basic requirements for people to meet before coming here? Is it so bad to desire a way to vet people for quality? ",
"I'm a complete outsider to this (not American and not interested in living there either) but I do think that's the most reasonable solution. It shouldn't be about *where* people are coming from but *who* those people are. Taking in the talented and the outstanding from all over the world has worked out for the USA before, and although it arguably does screw other countries over, it benefits the US massively. Doesn't matter if they're black, white or latino.",
"Even if we don't agree, I'm enjoying our talk and am happy to have a conversation with you. \n\n> I didn't mean to imply highly skilled immigrants are the majority, just that they have an easier time immigrating. And that a policy of only letting in those types of immigrants would be economically bad for the US. Companies need workers at various skill levels. That's what economists have shown.\n\nFair enough. However, there is a major problem when over 50% of immigrant headed households are on some form of government assistance. We do not need to import welfare recipients. \n\n> And I'm curious now :) I have more questions:\n> What is your community? Is it rural? Urban? Midwestern? Coastal? Blue collar workers? Business owners?\n\nI'm originally from a coastal town, but being in the military I bounce around a lot. Where I'm originally from, in a manner of two decades the population became majority Spanish speaking. That leads to a feeling of displacement in your own country. We never voted on this or even made a law reflecting it, it just gradually happened through illegal immigration. It was like our country had no say in it. \n\n> The immigrants I've worked with and been friends with shared my values of working hard, liking similar movies and TV shows, helping friends and family, wanting their kids to get a good education... I'm curious what values do you have that you think immigrants don't have?\n\nSince I have a very specific specialty in the military I work in a lot of 3rd world countries, including Haiti and West Africa. I respect the people there and wish them well, however I think they have terrible cultures and do not want to see their problems brought to our country. \n\nImmigrants from different cultures have different values when it comes to property rights, government corruption, and personal liberty to name a few things. Most immigrants vote Democrat. Being a conservative, it seems that people are being imported to prop up one particular party and drown out my voice and vote. Rather than focus on the needs of Americans already here, why not just import more voters for their side? ",
"So let’s help the poor kids from our own shitholes first before we open the doors to the 3rd world. ",
"Has trump come out and stated that he doesn’t want any African immigrants? Don’t think I recall that announcement being made...",
"It's based on UN projections. They are talking about the Human Development Index ranking and since 2010, Sweden has been deteriorating sharply. You can check out the report here: http://ww.rrojasdatabank.info/HDRP_2010_40.pdf\n\nJust because something is absurd doesn't make it untrue. If you end up reading the rest of my comment, you'll see that all I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with vetting immigrants for quality. Allowing everyone to come in because it's the nice thing to do doesn't help anyone... including the immigrants.",
"They're missing the point on purpose because they're tribalistic and need to defend Trump at all costs ",
"Haiti isn't a shit hole ",
"That’s not entirely true. There are parts of this country that have some third world qualities to them. Have you not been to the Deep South...or Detroit.....or parts of L.A.?? You are only fooling yourself if you honestly believe every corner of this country is better off than every other country on the planet. ",
"Who said they should suffer?",
"If I say \"England and France are shithole countries\". Even if before that I once said \"I'm not so sure about Germany\". If you open a bookcase called \"Books from shithole countries\", and you put English, French, and German books there. YOU called Germany a shithole country, NOT me. Trump never called Afghanistan a shithole country, so by putting those books here, the bookstore themselves are classifying it as a shithole.",
"> American immigrants from Africa are more likely to be educated, speak English, and get jobs once they're here than immigrants from other countries. \n\nDo you know why? Because it's really difficult to get to the US from Africa. It's selection bias--the only africans (more or less) making it over here are the ones that are educated, speak English, and have jobs.\n\n>but because no highly educated \"Norwegian\" wants to emigrate to a country with an openly racist president, for one.\n\nNo, it's not because of our president. Norway, on average, has a higher standard of living than the US. That has been true before last January 21. \n\n> One thing that gets left out of debate is that if we switch to a more merit based system of immigration that means letting in more Africans not fewer. \n\nGood! I totally support a merit based system. ",
"Those of us who belive this are shouted down as racists now. The left has gone full libtard now that dipshit Trump is in office. ",
"I wish that was a GOP policy.",
">Since when do decide that whether someone trying to escape Haiti and move to America should only be admitted contingent upon their potential economic value?\n\nYou know immigration systems exist to benefit the host country economically, right? Do you see any other country operating immigration systems where they welcome in tons of uneducated and poor low skilled workers? No.\n\nThere exists a place in the immigration system where we *don't* decide based off of economic value--that is the refugee system. We do it for humanitarian purposes. But, then they return to their homeland after the war/famine/dictatorship is over. \n\nBut of course economic migrants are judged based on their economic value. Where did you get the idea that they aren't?",
"You live in a shithole(as you agreed). You thought process is impaired due to all the shit surrounding you.\n\nMove on shit resident. Stop throwing shit arguments all around. ",
"I'm native.",
">What matters is what economics data and research shows, which is that immigration is financially beneficial. \n\nThe data shows this because immigration is hard--meaning that only the best and brightest get in. It's selection bias. I live in Thailand, for example. Many people here think all white people are rich. That's selection bias--they only see the foreigners who actually have the money to come here and blow money on hookers. The super poor ones can't afford a vacation.\n\nSelection bias is what you're witnessing. *Of course* immigrants help the economy grow--by restricting it to the best and brightest, we *only bring in people who actually help us*, and that's how it works. \n\nThe data shows the system is working as is, not that we need to expand it to poor and uneducated people. It's working precisely because we aren't bringing the types of people that you're advocating for. \"immigrants\" are not all created equal, and your attempt to classify all immigrants under the term did not escape me. Wealthy immigrants have a positive impact that is measurable. Poor ones do not.",
">it's the logic that (black)people from those countries need to have a good reason to be let in the US while (white)people from Norway are openly invited.\n\nHe literally said nothing about white, black, or race. He only said Norway because he talked to their prime minister the day before and probably couldn't think of anywhere else.\n\nAnything about race is completely being projected onto this by the actual racists.",
"Huh? And HUH?",
"And along with it, the right has become more and more retarded too. Ten years ago I would've told you I was a right leaning person, but nowadays that basically means being a racist bigot. But I'm not a left leaning person either.\n\nI want all rights for gay people and I want assisted suicide to be legal, and fair merit-based immigration, and a right wing economy, and that seems to be what most people in my country want as well. But if I were to explain that position to an American, I'd have no idea how to frame it. The right would hate me for supporting \"fags and niggers\" and the left would hate me for being a \"nazi and a corporate bitch\". The political climate in the US is extremely unstable and polarized right now.",
"So you have no good arguments and you're throwing insults. Good for you.",
"Why do English speaking people write S##THOLE instead of shithole? I'm not native english speaker and really don't get why is it better to write things like f*ck or n*gga. We all get what you're saying. ",
"Yeah I was surprised to see r/pics brigaded so quickly ",
"Sounds like you're the racist one. Stop looking for reasons to victimize black people. He compared a good country to a bad country.\n \n \nHe runs it like a business. Would you rather hire a new employee for your own company from Comcast or Google? It's pretty clear which would likely be more valuable to your company. Makes sense to me unless you are trying to make everything about race.",
"Time until some a-hole moves \"Dreams From my Father\" into the stack?",
"This guy got his jerb terked and he hasn’t figured out its the white rich dudes who did it, not the robot they dressed up as a black immigrant.",
"> Have you not been to the Deep South...or Detroit.....or parts of L.A.\n\nOnly been to the US twice briefly actually. \n\nYou are fooling yourself if you refuse to believe data. There are still huge parts of Europe where growing your own food and raising animals is required to survive and where roads are third world tier and where owning cars is for the very rich only.\n\n>if you honestly believe every corner of this country is better off than every other country on the planet.\n\nAnd I did not say or even suggest that. You are projecting your own false assumptions and making points I never made. I a saying that the lower and working classes are economically far better than the vast vast vast majority of the world and even better that much of the first world in terms of material wealth.\n\n\n[MOST Americans are HIGH income compared to the world](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/09/how-americans-compare-with-the-global-middle-class/). That is an astounding fact\n\n[Here are some more facts from Von Mises](https://mises.org/blog/poor-us-are-richer-middle-class-much-europe)",
"I wish Trump was articulate enough to make the argument you're making :) We'd all be better off than if we were left to guess at what he meant.\n\n> However, there is a major problem when over 50% of immigrant headed households are on some form of government assistance. We do not need to import welfare recipients. \n\nLike I mentioned though, government assistance is temporary and there is a return on that investment because people get education, jobs, and then pay taxes. And then many have kids, 2nd-generation immigrants, and they integrate even better and get education, jobs, and pay taxes. Basically the US gov and US companies get a better financial return than it would if the US didn't allow immigration (or if it allowed a lot less).\n\n> Immigrants from different cultures have different values when it comes to property rights, government corruption, and personal liberty to name a few things. Most immigrants vote Democrat.\n\nI can't comment on those because I haven't read articles or data specifically about the effect immigrants have on those things. Although, I recall that Cubans mostly vote Republican and Bush won about 70% or so of their vote. Also there seems to be enough home-grown government corruption by rich white people that I have a hard time believing immigrants make it worse. \n\nAs for me, I've also moved around a lot too, but mostly between big urban cities. I've been in the tech industry for about a decade now, and I've worked with immigrants from many countries including Mexico. They've been valuable to have around.",
"> only the best and brightest get in.\n\nThere's a lot of people that *wish* that were true for America, but [29 percent of immigrants lacked a high school diploma or General Educational Development certificate](https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states). US companies still want and use those employees though, and the US benefits economically from them.",
"Um.. Covfefe should be drank piping hot, not warm. I think you're doing it wrong.",
"that's probably from chain migration which will hopefully come to an end soon. \n\n>US companies still want and use those employees though, and the US benefits economically from them.\n\nHow do you know we benefit economically from them? at what cost does it come to low skilled Americans who could use more opportunities?",
"I don't know how hard it is in practice, but when I was perusing through their immigration website, it just seemed like a ton of requirements had to be met. But back to the other point you bring up...I'm all for helping fellow humans, but honestly I'm not sure how we're supposed to do it. With all of our own issues at hand, it seems like an impossible task to take on.",
"I don't know, why don't you find a source?",
"Von Mises clearly hasn’t visited most of this county either then. ",
"White supremacists often argue that POC (or sometimes just non-Asian POC) are naturally intellectually inferior and point of the lack of great POC thinks as evidence of a racial hierarchy. That's why it is important to recognize the fact that some great Western thinkers came from non-European families. \n\nSt Augustine was an ethnic Berber (North African). Alexandre Dumas (author of The Three Musketeers) was of mixed European, African, and possible Native American ancestry. Those are just two examples off the top of my head of POC in the Western Canon.",
">I wish Trump was articulate enough to make the argument you're making :) We'd all be better off than if we were left to guess at what he meant. \n\nAgreed, clearly spoken ideas are always better and it is definitely something he could improve on. Thanks for the great discussion so far!\n\n>Like I mentioned though, government assistance is temporary and there is a return on that investment because people get education, jobs, and then pay taxes. And then many have kids, 2nd-generation immigrants, and they integrate even better and get education, jobs, and pay taxes. Basically the US gov and US companies get a better financial return than it would if the US didn't allow immigration (or if it allowed a lot less).\n\nThat sounds nice enough, but why not just get the initial savings/profitability of importing someone who's not going to rely on welfare. I am also against that as a matter of principle- no one should be coming here and draining a system they never paid in to. It seems to go against the idea of the social contract, which I interpret as \"let me pay taxes into this system, in case I one day need it.\" When a new arrival takes advantage of it, that breeds cynicism and breaks down the trust in the system.\n\n>I can't comment on those because I haven't read articles or data specifically about the effect immigrants have on those things. Although, I recall that Cubans mostly vote Republican and Bush won about 70% or so of their vote. Also there seems to be enough home-grown government corruption by rich white people that I have a hard time believing immigrants make it worse.\n\nHere's some data on what I was saying: https://cis.org/Immigrations-Impact-Republican-Political-Prospects-1980-2012\n\n> As for me, I've also moved around a lot too, but mostly between big urban cities. I've been in the tech industry for about a decade now, and I've worked with immigrants from many countries including Mexico. They've been valuable to have around.\n\nI'm glad you've had a good experience with immigrants and I believe you want the best for our country.\nBased off my experiences overseas, I believe that both the good and bad in countries are a reflection of the people in them and their cultures. So I want to very much limit immigration from 3rd world essentially failed states. There's nothing about the cultures I've experienced that I would want to see at home.",
"There are racists in ALL races. If you can only identify them in one particular race then that means YOU are the racist.\n\nYou are the racist and you are the one making ridiculous statements. ",
">I think we have enough people here already and I prefer to live in a community and country with people that share my culture and values. \n\nIn the view of the left this makes you a racist nazi. Personally, I think it's very reasonable. Especially when many of the people who *don't* share your culture and values are here illegally and are a) not paying taxes and b) taking advantage of taxpayer money through government handouts.\n\n",
"Found the person who failed geography.",
"So all I have to do is repeat \"/u/blahblahbush sucks ten cocks a day\" a few thousand times and all the sudden you'll just be watching TV and BAM! there's a dick in your mouth?\n\nI wish your particular brand of idiocy weren't so common, but there seem to be plenty of people who actually believe that [if you repeat something enough times it becomes true](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/12/lie-year-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/).",
"It is. That's what the 'America First' mentality is all about.\n\nUnemployment it the lowest it has been in almost 20 years and it's still trending downwards. Millions of working and middle class Americans (anyone making between $9,525 and $200,000 a year) will have more money in their pockets because of the new income tax rates.\n\nThere's a narrative coming from the left that conservatives and Republicans don't want to help poor people. It's not true at all. We don't want to give them free stuff just to get by, though, instead we want to help them to become productive members of society who can feel good about their contributions instead of leeching off the system. \n\nThe Democratic party has pushed the same narrative for decades because it helps to win them votes. The Democratic policies are meant to keep their own voter base down without them realizing. But people are finally waking up.",
">Unlike you, I do understand the concept of a qoute and it is not single individual words.\n\nFirst off, it's quote, not qoute. If you're going to try to correct someone's usage of language at least spell the word correctly.\n\nSecond off:\n\nhttps://www.scribendi.com/advice/when_to_use_double_or_single_quotation_marks.en.html\n\n>From the **Chicago Manual of Style**,\n\n>The narrator then breaks in:\n\n>Imagine Bart's surprise, dear reader, when Emma turned to him and said, contemptuously, **\"What 'promise'?\"**\n\nThirdly, it is clear to anyone participating in the conversation honestly that the poster is trying to short hand reference a specific thing that Donald Trump said. These statements were made recently enough and publicly enough that you probably know the statement he is referencing and, if you don't, you should ask for clarification instead of whatever this nonsense was.\n\nIf you are trying to deny that those statements were made then I would recommend going that route rather than bickering over what quote means. For example, referring to black people as lazy is a reference to this quote:\n\n> I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.\n\nThe correct retort here is to point out that this unsubstantiated and claimed by a former disgruntled worker. The only real support for it being true (other than the content of Trumps actions which is more debatable than words used) is this statement:\n\n>the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.\n\nWhich is substantiated but hardly definitive.\n\nI would recommend you stop trying to use language to back your arguments, you are not very good at it and keep saying things that are wrong. It discredits what you're trying to say.\n\nedit: fixing a minor hypocrisy ",
"> Especially when many of the people who don't share your culture and values are here illegally\n\nThanks. To me someone coming here illegally shows they have no respect for this country and the rule of law, so I will never accept them into my country or community. Deportation is the only acceptable outcome. ",
"Yeah pretty much ",
"Hey! Trump can't say that about the countries that we insist are so bad that we need to allow people to immigrate as refugee's from them!",
"Define racism",
"So either the countries are shitholes and people are trying to leave, or they aren't shitholes and people want to stay.\n\nObviously its not the latter.",
"> Seems more likely to me that they want to make a point that art can come from anywhere, and that referring to all immigrants from any country or continent as undeserving is foolish.\n\nOr you know, they're a bookstore, trying to sell books.",
"There are many shithole countries, thats just fact. People bitch at Trump for his choice of words, because they like to bitch at him, but he just stated the obvious. ",
"Ludwig Von Mises *was* a very famous and influential Austrian economist who died in 1973.\n\nIt is obvious from your comment you did not bother to read any data or even open the website. I think I have more regard for a respected economic think tank with real data rather than a random Redditor who goes on emotions and personal feelings.\n\nThe ironic thing is the Von Mises Institute I linked is based in: wait for it...\n\n\nAlabama! Ya know, the region they know nothing about",
"> Thirdly, it is clear to anyone participating in the conversation honestly that the poster is trying to short hand reference a specific thing that Donald Trump said. \n\nEvidently you do not know what a quote is either. Maybe you should try to figure that out before you try to correct me. All the did poster was point out some individual words. For example Trump pointed out that some Mexicans are rapists and as a simple matter of fact some are. However, some people such as evidently you decided that Trump was talking about all Mexicans. \n\nThat is why I asked for actual quotes from Trump and that is why neither you or the guy I was talking to was able to come up with any because there are none. Quoting individual words without context does not mean anything. You have also used these words, does that mean that you are calling yourself racist?\n\nAlso again part of the definition of the word quote is that it involves multiple words. \n\nThanks for demonstrating that Trump is not racist.\n\nHow about you? Do you only label white people as being racist or do you see racists in all races? Can you name any non-white people that you consider to be racist?",
"That supposed quote screams fake to me. It is engineered to make people angry, it insults people that aren’t rich, black people and Jewish people. If I were sitting around and thought “what could I pretend Trump said that would be the most damaging?” it would be about that. That seems so goddamn fake. \n\nReminds me of that fake Elvis quote “the only thing black people can do for me is buy my records and shine my shoes.” It was made up by a guy who specifically wanted to discredit Elvis. It sounds *exactly* like the supposed Trump quote. ",
"to answer your question, no. I also don't believe that is the case. I believe there should be an application process, which there is. Getting into the U.S. is harder than you think. The hordes of people coming to destroy the economy is a bogeyman used by some politicians. May I ask you, do you believe in discriminating someone because of their birth country? ",
"*Honorary* Canadian citizenship.",
"What the Right is too fucking stupid to understand is that it's not about that he used a bad word to describe bad places, it's that the leader of the free world thinks geographic location is what determines a person's worthiness to pursue freedom. He didn't just insult them, he asked *why we have to let them in* specifically because their country is shitty. It's not only disgusting, it's fundamentally unamerican. \"Give your tired, your poor, your huddled masses\" not \"give me your rich white Norwegians\". Jesus fuck. We were those people when we started this country.\n\nFuck you for buying into the painfully obvious tactic of deliberately moving the narrative to something seemingly innocent when the real story is that *our dipshit president doesn't understand the point of our country*. Never, ever did I expect to see such a large group of people inside this country so adamantly supporting ideals that are so fundamentally against what this country was built on. Its deeply saddening to see this kind of idiocy gain traction.",
"It worked for America after WWII. They just kept saying they were the \"greatest country on earth\" until pretty much everyone believed them. Was it true? No. But *Americans* believe it, so nothing else matters.\n\nOh, and I don't watch TV. So your hypothetical is flawed.\n",
"Agreed, either way at best it is a second hand memory from long ago. How often does anyone remember specific quotes from any conversation from years prior?\n\nThat is what is so ridiculous about this anti Trump nonsense. He actually does say and do things that could be criticized but instead most of what is hurled at him is just made up nonsense. Now it is just a jumbled mess where people just believe what they want regardless of facts.",
"The point of outrage is not in recognizing that the african countries are in a desperate shape (shithole countries), But that our president said we should not allow people from those countries (read black) to come to US, but rather only allow white people (like from Norway) to come to US.\n\n",
"I believe in helping others, helping them stay in their own countries not fleeing them and furthering the damage done by talking people the country's need. Overloading the US isn't the answer. Never was. ",
"And therefore we should not let people like Malala to ever migrate to US? (That's what president said btw.)\n",
"Mind blown",
"Same thing",
"Uh, he said it. And Trump was referring to the government not the people. That is if you believe Dick Durban. Who has lied multiple ties about meetings including one with Obama ",
"I agree. People should be judged on their qualities. That is why Trump wants to have immigration visas be given for merit, not diversity. ",
"How can a President do his job if he can't talk openly with his colleagues?",
"Google it.",
"then why make such a big deal about the word shithole? \n\nyou are backpedaling here. The outrage has been all about the term shithole. That's all the news have spoken about, that's all the reddit outrage machine has spoken about(feel free to browse any thread on the topic in /r/politics)\n\nand please, stop looking at the past through rose tinted glasses, the same men who said \"all men are created equal\" also owned slaves. The statue of liberty that invites just anyone to come over, also has ellis island nearby that controlled who actually got to come in. And remember it was built in 1886, right about the time when this country actually stopped taking just anyone. And its not like immigrants had that great of a time before then. Remember the movie gangs of new york? There were battles in NYC between irish immigrants and Americans. And before that we enslaved Chinese immigrants to work on the railroads. And before that we had this little thing called slavery, maybe you heard about it? \n\n",
">probably \n\nOk",
">Evidently you do not know what a quote is either.\n\nThe Chicago Manual of Style disagrees with you. You are wrong.\n\n>All the did poster was point out some individual words.\n\nAnd I explained to you that was his attempt at shorthand. Like I said, if you disagree that the things he was referencing were ever said, do so.\n\n>However, some people such as evidently you decided that Trump was talking about all Mexicans. \n\nI spent half my post explaining what I considered an adequate defense of a supposedly racist thing that was attributed to Trump. If you want to stick words in my mouth then I have some for you.\n\nAlso, considering what you just said here, clearly you understand the shorthand that poster was trying to use and chose to attack the way in which he said something rather than the content of the claim.\n\n>that is why neither you or the guy I was talking to was able to come up with any because there are none.\n\nI didn't come up with any (aside from the one I provided you a deconstruction for) because I wasn't interested in that part of the argument. Trump minces and muddles his words so much that extracting a definitive meaning is difficult on its own. Add into the fact that True Believers like yourself are over-eager to see only the absolute best possible intent and would never consider an alternative and it is an exercise in futility. If you want my honest opinion, I don't think Trump gives two shits about race. I think the only things he cares about are his brand, his money and his fame.\n\n>Also again part of the definition of the word quote is that it involves multiple words. \n\nAgain, wrong. Also I've demonstrated the shorthand and you clearly understand it. Stop this dishonest line of argument.\n\n>Thanks for demonstrating that Trump is not racist.\n\nNo, I demonstrated that statement is not definitively attributed to Trump. Can't prove a negative, absence of evidence and all that.\n\n>Do you only label white people as being racist\n\nNo, that would be silly.\n\n>Can you name any non-white people that you consider to be racist?\n\nWhat, like, individuals? Mostly people you'll have never met, presumably, and I'm not here to dox anyone. I've been asked \"What are you doing here white boy\" before. I'm aware of things like Japanese people's strong culture of racism. If you'll balk at no specific individual, Louis Farrakhan is probably the easy layup. NOI has a pretty long and storied history of racism, antisemitism and homophobia.",
"I'm under the impression germany brings in unskilled/poor/uneducted workers for the express purpose of training them:\n\nhttp://www.bamf.de/EN/Willkommen/Bildung/Berufsausbildung/berufsausbildung-node.html\n\nTo your point I'd assume that activity is economically positive in the long term, though the same is true of the average immigrant to the USA today.\n\nIf our immigration system was based solely off of economics it would be dominated by the rich children of Chinese plutocrats, that isn't acceptable either we need some amount of diversity. Diplomacy is also a factor, we want to accept some immigrants from any nation that Americans may want to live in. It's a mistake to base an immigration system off any single factor, be it economics or humanitarianism.",
"Shithole books too ",
"The point is that just because those countries are shitholes at the moment doesn't meant that their people are shit, which is what Trump was clearly implying.",
"Just come out and say it, you think black people are biologically inferior, ADMIT IT YOU NAZI FUCK.",
"Found the white supremacist Nazi fuckhead.",
"Found the Russian with a poor grasp of English, try being a less obvious shill, Boris!",
"They're intentionally missing the point, they are white supremacist jackasses who think those countries are shitholes because their people are biologically inferior and are being disingenuous because they know it's not acceptable to openly admit it.",
"Holy fuck, these comments are absolutely swarming with Neo-Nazi scum sucking up to their Dear Leader.",
"No, not as long as you un-American Nazi fucks are in my country. Fuck off to Russia.",
"Websters is a dictionary. A dictionary is what defines words. Also as I pointed out the Manual of Style ALSO calls for multiple words. \n\nAlso shorthand is not a quote. Neither of you have come up with any quotes of Trump saying anything even remotely close to a quote from Trump either racist or non racist. \n\n\"What, like, individuals? \" yes that is what people are. Also for someone that pretends to not want to dox people, you seem pretty happy to dox Trump. I will give you some examples of racists that are not white. Louis Farrakan, Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson pretty much any leader in BLM or BAMN, Mugabe. Emperor Hirohito, Tojo. Since most racists are not white it is pretty easy. It is also easy to come up with examples of white racists, David Duke, Hitler any leader in the KKK on a neo NAZI organization. ",
"But that's the whole point. Trump asked \"why are we accepting people from shithole countries\" and not from places like Norway. Implying we should cease taking in people who actually need it",
">A dictionary is what defines words.\n\n[OED](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/quote) uses a slightly different description and doesn't necessitate multiple words.\n\n[Websters also defintes quote as 2 : to cite in illustration](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quote)\n\nLanguage isn't as cut and dry as you're trying to make it seem. You're wrong, just let it go.\n\nAlso notable:\n\n>Quoting individual words\n\n**HMMMMMM?**\n\n>Also as I pointed out the Manual of Style ALSO calls for multiple words. \n\nLiar. \n\n>Also shorthand is not a quote.\n\nIt's a shorthand reference to a quote. What is so hard about this for you to understand? Why are you pretending to be so dense? What do you think you have to gain from being so dishonest in this discussion? \n\n>you seem pretty happy to dox Trump.\n\nYou don't actually know what it means to dox someone, do you?\n",
"\"It's a shorthand reference to a quote.\" or in other words it is NOT a quote. What is so hard about this for you to understand? Why are you pretending to be so dense? What do you think you have to gain from being so dishonest in this discussion?\n\nTo dox someone is to publish information that leads to trouble in their personal life. However, all of the examples both white and non white that I used are people who have already put themselves in the public sphere.\n\nThanks for proving that you are unable to find a racist quote from Trump.\n",
"http://www.socialprogressindex.com/assets/downloads/resources/en/English-2017-Social-Progress-Index-Findings-Report_embargo-d-until-June-21-2017.pdf\n\nHere you go. You could have done that yourself if you gave a shit at all. Norway is tied for third place and Ethiopa is sitting at a cool 121st place out of 128 contestants. But the economy is booming, I hear. ",
">To dox someone is to publish information that leads to trouble in their personal life. However, all of the examples both white and non white that I used are people who have already put themselves in the public sphere.\n\nThen how am I doxxing Trump?\n\n>Thanks for proving that you are unable to find a racist quote from Trump.\n\nRiddle me this, is there anything shy of a video of Trump calling a black man the N word that you wouldn't defend?\n\nEdit: Don't bother answering. The reason why you're going off on all these nonsense, tangential lines of argument is because its easier to pretend that you don't know what is being talked about than to defend the president dog whistling racists for his own personal gain.",
"Found the pathetic libtard anti fa pussy.",
"Was that so hard?",
"No it was just completely unnecessary. Let me know if you want proof that Somalia is also a shithole, or that water is wet. ",
"Saying things like you are such a fucking idiot doesn’t make your statements any more true or convincing.",
"I'll have to refer to [economists who studied migration to Miami](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/01/29/five-things-economists-know-about-immigration/?utm_term=.665fb26c9b2d) and found \"Low-skilled immigrants probably don't see any effect [from immigration]\" (Point 5):\n\n> confirmed in two notable studies ... the Mariel boatlift (which brought upwards of 100,000 immigrants to Miami in 1980) and the early 1990s Russian Jewish migration to Israel, respectively, **did not decrease native employment or wages**. Both were big events. The boatlift increased Miami's population by 7 percent, and the Russian migration increased Israel's population by 12 percent.",
"This post is almost like an inside joke. Most Trump voters don't really read, we know Trump and his entire administration are barely literate ( can't spell Norway, run a conference call, signs bills in a giant sharpie). ",
"He died over 40 years ago? 😂🤦🏼♂️ real valid argument. \n",
"Lmao whoever made this collection in the bookstore just stumped themselves.\n\nThey're including countries that Trump never even mentioned as shitholes, basically calling them shitholes from their own point of view.",
"> It is.\n\nBased on what recent Republican legislation or Republican government action? I'd like to know specifics.\n\nOne thing that really helps quality of life is access to health insurance which increased under Obama and the democrats. And [Unemployment decreased significantly during 8 years of Obama](https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/08/charts-whats-the-real-unemployment-rate.html) - and that's all definitions of unemployment U-1 through U-6.\n\n> ... we want to help them to become productive members of society ...\n\nTell me how they are doing that. Ideally we should be funding things to, for example:\n\n* Educate and re-train people who have lost their jobs (e.g. coal miners learning to work in other industries).\n* Improve access to health care and mental health care (so that people are capable of holding down jobs).\n* Legalize marijuana to jump start a new industry and create new jobs (and tax revenue) and reduce tax money wasted on fighting a drug less harmful than alcohol.\n\nI'm just thinking out loud though. I'd like to know what Republicans are going to do to help the poor.",
"Yeah it's hilarious how they stumped themselves.\n\n\"Trump is racist for saying Haiti is a shithole- here are other countries that are shitholes that he didnt even mention\"",
"Surely you have a membership in the Klan with those remarks",
"It was a closed door meeting. He can say whatever he goddamn wants it wasn't a press conference.",
"If you brought over 30 million Somalians to Idaho, it would become like Somalia. ",
">it's that the leader of the free world thinks geographic location is what determines a person's worthiness to pursue freedom.\n\nWhat about people who come here and go on welfare immediately and contribute to crime rates? Surely they should be screened.",
"Liberals are angry that Trump is saying out loud what everyone thinks in private.",
"Honorary isn't a real citizenship. She can't vote.",
">Oh God no! I just thought he was indian\n\nlmao at your comment.\n\n\"Oh God no I didn't mean Canada or Spain I would never! I just meant India is a shithole\"",
"The people make up a country. A lot of these places are shitholes because people just throw their garbage into the streets.",
">All you're doing is proving Trump's point instead of the opposite.\n\nWorse than that, they're amplifying Trump's point. They're listing countries here that he didnt even mention",
"Wasn't diversity supposed to not make America such a shithole?",
"That was the point of the original comment. Unfortunately the self righteous hate mob needs a narrative and reality doesn’t align with it. ",
"Soooo, then what does it have to do with? Racism? Take another look at the presidential quotes I provided... 5 out of 6 are pretty damn racist if you ask me. Trump has NEVER said anything as bad regarding race. If he has, QUOTE IT and I'll stand corrected (I won't hold my breath). Trump doesn't abide by pussy-footing PC standards that SJW leftists have down our throats for the past decade or so. So grow up and get over it. Fuck your feelings, facts are facts. If he called shit-hole countries \"shit-holes,\" then what's the fucking problem? And if they weren't shit-holes then why are people deserting them and fleeing to countries with western values and better standards of living? Ffs, thinned-skinned pussies like you are a big reason why Trump won and will continue winning. All his opponents know how to do is bitch and fucking moan and lose. TRUMP KNOWS HOW TO GET SHIT DONE! #MAGA\n\n/rant",
"He wasn't saying \"why do we have to let them in unscreened\" (we don't), he was literally asking why we have to let them in *at all*. Big, painfully obvious difference. We aren't talking about screening, we're talking about the President of the United States not understanding why we can't turn away the kinds of people *literally described on the inscription of the statue of liberty*. If that doesn't raise a single red flag for you, you should reconsider how you prioritize your party loyalty.",
"I never said that? Wtf do you think I’m a racist dude? Fuck you then ",
"No, the Democrats were arguing for amnesty for 300,000 El Salvadorians who were NOT screened.\n\nLearn some politics.",
"You called India a shithole you asshole\n\nIndia will have its revenge on you, you racist",
"Dude, what happened was, the post said “X books from shithole countries” and I thought “Well, now this is a meme I guess, lemme just post an indian author I know in here because,well, I’m bored and he’s Indian, and according to Trump, India is a shithole country.” \n\nWhere in this section did I say “India was a shithole country” specifically?",
">I’m bored and he’s Indian, and according to Trump, India is a shithole country.”\n\nTrump never said India is a shithole country. You just picked India from a subconscious list of \"shithole countries\" in your mind. \n\nMy God you are racist. Shame on you ",
"Brooo whaaaat is yooour proooobleeeem. \nDid you even realize that I actually am from one of these so called shithole countries? Puerto Rico, buddy. Ever heard of it? Now stop pointing your finger at people you don’t know anything about, that just makes YOU the racist",
"I would urge you to go read the [republican platform](https://gop.com/platform/). I don't agree with everything they want to do but the philosophy of it all is pretty clearly laid out. The thing that a lot of liberals/democrats don't understand is that the republicans have the same goals that they have. We all want our fellow Americans to have better lives than they have right now. We recognize a lot of the same problems with the way things are, but the way we want to go about solving those problems is fundamentally different than the solutions liberals propose.\n\n>Educate and re-train people who have lost their jobs (e.g. coal miners learning to work in other industries).\n\nThe reality of the situation is that a 45 year old former coal miner probably isn't going to move across the country and start working with a completely different skillset in a completely different field. Even if they do get 'trained' in a new industry, they will still need to find jobs and even then their on-the-job training will probably be more valuable than any classes they take. Spending taxpayer dollars on job training programs won't accomplish anything besides giving money to the bureaucrats and lobbyists who have a financial interest in the companies running the job training programs. If we want to improve that man/woman's situation, the best bet is to incentive industry to invest in those former coal-mining communities. A factory that can employ 200 low-skilled former coal miners will solve that problem. Toyota and Mazda are investing 1.6 billion dollars in a new plant in Alabama and I believe wholeheartedly that the republican tax plan had something to do with that decision. That's one of \n\n>Improve access to health care and mental health care (so that people are capable of holding down jobs).\n\nPremiums and deductibles skyrocketed under the ACA. Regulations and mandates on employers caused thousands of them to reduce their benefits *and* wages by cutting hours. Yes, the number of people who were insured went up because of the individual mandate, but the quality of care went down and the cost went way up for the majority of Americans. The very poor/disabled/mentally ill people who need medicaid will still have access to it under any plan the GOP comes up with, and the rest of America will be much better off with a free-market healthcare system. Trump recently signed an executive order to allow consumers to buy insurance across state lines which should lead to dramatically lower costs than in the pre-ACA era which required insurance from an in-state carrier.\n\n>Legalize marijuana to jump start a new industry and create new jobs (and tax revenue) and reduce tax money wasted on fighting a drug less harmful than alcohol.\n\nI agree with you 100% on this one as do a lot of other young conservatives. This is something that the GOP needs to stop being so stubborn about. I'm all for legalization and ending the war on drugs. I think this libertarian-leaning perspective is probably much more common than you realize, though, and the next generation of elected republicans will probably be on board with this as well. As soon as we get some of the old-timers out of office.",
"Ahh, American exceptionalism at its ignorant finest.",
"*alot of the books\n\nPlease don't change topic from /u/Mrtrollham.",
"I think Egypt is a shit hole, i went and i hated it, but saying that is controversial. If I said Australia was a shit hole no one would care because its so unbelievable. ",
"Do you think it is in the best interest of the American people to refer to other counties as shitholes? Does that help your standing in the world? No. Does it help your trade? No. Does it help your reputation and respect? No. He’s a bigoted idiot and the sooner you realize that the better. Don’t buy in to all the bullshit. ",
"The word shit is not the problem, it is what he was referring to. It is racist but also an incredibly dumb point of view. ",
"Cool story bro. ",
"Cletus",
"Racism is one of the problems. And the other quotes are not relevant because they are hundreds of years old and things were so different then. You are a biased moron for expecting that to be your entire argument. But the main reason why Trump's comments are terrible, is because they are incredibly dumb and short sighted. ",
"> The word shit is not the problem, it is what he was referring to\n\nRight, and what they were both referring to is that those places are messes. \"Shithole\" and \"shit show\" both mean the same thing in this context.",
"you didn't answer my question. I answered yours. You think it's fair to receive someone from one country and turn someone back because of where they were born?",
"You might infer that but what I'm implying is that we already have problems and we don't need to let anyone at all in until that's better. Not even first world immigrants. I guess you didn't think very hard about the issues\n\n\nBut go ahead and think anything you want. You get to decide what I'm trying to say right?\n\n\nSo I'll just decide that what you are telling me is also very very wrong.",
"> I would urge you to go read the republican platform.\n\nI've been through several presidential elections, don't worry, I'm familiar. The problem is that a written platform isn't as useful as the real-life actions a group takes. As one example, Republicans had a lot of power under Bush, and now under Trump, and they increased spending contrary to to their own platform. They reduced personal freedom contrary to their own platform (Spying on citizens, homeland security, etc).\n\nBasically every group says they want to make the world a better place. They all should be using data, and not ideology to decide what policies are actually accomplishing that.\n\n> Spending taxpayer dollars on job training programs won't accomplish anything ...\n\nThe gist here, and with other libertarian republican positions, is that the definition of help is to just leave people alone. \"Help\" by not \"actively helping\". (And I know the views of \"libertarian republicans\" are very different from \"religious\" and \"social conservative\" republicans.)",
"See, here's where Conservatives and Liberals differ most. You think people people need help. You think they need job training programs and SNAP benefits and an individual mandate on healthcare. You think they wouldn't be able to get by otherwise.\n\nWe don't think the vast majority of people need any help at all. We believe in their own decision making ability and we believe that everyone can succeed and thrive if they have an opportunity to do so. We want people to succeed on their own instead of barely scraping by on government benefits. Providing tax incentives for companies to open new factories will give thousands of people new opportunities. Those who want to take advantage of those opportunities will do so on their own accord.\n\nThe Democrats have been purposely making people dependent on their handouts for generations. Lyndon Johnson, after putting in place some of his great society programs, said \"I'll have those niggers voting democrat for 200 years\". It's a political strategy that has worked pretty well for them. Right now the GOP is trying to rip off the bandaid as quickly as possible. It might hurt these communities temporarily, but long term they are way better off if they don't need government assistance.\n\nAnd yes, Republicans haven't been great with privacy or spending. But those problems aren't unique to that party. Tbe NSA domestic surveillance was at its peak under Obama and tbe national debt rose more under Obama than any other president. He also increased military spending compared to the Bush era.",
"Wow. You are either a very lazy troll or dumber than a sack of rocks",
"No, totally wrong. Why even comment on this if you don't understand the basic story? Obama was referring to the terrible situation created by an allied war that helped kill the country's leader and the country was then abandoned and sank into even worse violence, a civil war, and became a huge haven for ISIS. Trump was not referring to a situation at all, he was referring to a bunch of counties. I shouldn't have to explain this to someone capable of posting on this internet. ",
"> We don't think the vast majority of people need any help at all.\n\nThat's nice, but experimenting with policies, collecting data on the outcomes, and seeing what actually works are far more useful than thoughts and ideology - whether republican, democrat, or whatever group.\n\nIn ranking countries by Human Development Index, there are about 10 countries ahead of the US. The #1 country on that list is the same country Trump used as an example of an ideal country to get immigrants from - which is humorous because they have higher taxes and spend more on social aid programs...",
"> ... why not just get the initial savings/profitability of importing someone who's not going to rely on welfare.\n\nMaybe there's not enough of those types of people that want to immigrate to the US. And by \"not enough\" I mean not enough to fill the jobs that US companies want to fill.\n\nAnd just like you pay for shares of a company now in the hopes that it pays dividends and grows in value later, you can invest in people now in the hopes they pay back later. (And most of them do, not all, but most.) And many get married, have kids, they learn to speak English natively, and those kids get jobs too and help the US economy grow.",
"My entire argument is comprised of FACTS. You have no fucking argument whatsoever! You didn't give me a \"racist\" Trump quote and you incorrectly stated that \"the other quotes are not relevant because they are hundreds of years old.\" *Hundreds* (Obama) *of* (Clinton) *years* (LBJ) *old* (Truman). HuNdReDs Of YeArS. \n\nYou then resort to calling me a biased moron (one of which you most certainly are, just on the opposite end of the political spectrum) and saying Trump's a meanie for saying true things that hurt people's feefees. Go home Reddit, you're drunk! ",
"Would you have been happy if Trump said \"the earthquake turned Haiti into a shithole\"?",
"I wouldn't think twice about it. ",
"You are really succeeding in copying your idol. ",
"I think trump is crude and unfiltered and he offended me enough that I voted against him however, the reality is that many people are leaving those countries more because they themselves think they are shitholes than because they think they are good places to live. I think there is something to be said for a leader that takes reality into account.\n\nAs for helping trade, it depends on what type of trade you mean. China has free and open access to do business in America and to buy property and companies here. However, if an American company wants to sell much to China they want them to manufacture in China and are required to partner with a Chinese company and to give the Chinese company all of their technology. Obama was okay with that and Trump is not. Trump has made it clear that he would prefer no deal to a bad deal and yes I do think that is a good thing.\n\nIn less that a year Trump has cut a lot of needless red tape, created a million jobs bringing the unemployment rate down to a 17 year low, the stock market is breaking records and now he has passed the largest tax break in decades. Part of having good trade is having something of value to bring to market and yes Trump seems to be doing a good job at that. In his personal life he turned a million dollar loan into billions so maybe just maybe he did learn something along the way and again this comes from someone that voted against him but I am not too bigoted to see both good and bad in people.",
"You are brainwashed if you think Trump is to thank for your unemployment rate going down. And obviously you can’t say how this statement affect your trade, you can only speculate, so your China argument is rather weird since it has no relevance (to my knowledge he didn’t refer to China). It is also obvious that the stock market will rise since he gives tax breaks to the rich (the stock market). What happened last time someone did that? The 2008-crash happened. Your memory didn’t seem to include that. Just to be obvious, Obama created that unemployment rate, it was going down during most of his presidency and Trump was just lucky enough to take over and try to make it sound like he actually had something to do with it, sadly you seem to buy that bullshit. ",
"Yes, I can speculate that low unemployment is better for the economy than high unemployment and that a strong economy gives you more trade options than a weak economy. I'm really going out on a limb with that one. LOL\n\nThe stock market jumped as soon as he took office and it jumped again each time he cut red tape and it jumped again with the tax cuts but I'm sure in your mind that has nothing to do with Trump. \n\nWatch and learn unless you are too much of a bigot to see that nobody is wrong 100% of the time and yes this comes from someone that voted against Trump but I will give credit where credit is due. The left seems hell bent on demonizing Trump 100% of the time regardless of what he does or does not do which means that they can not lay any claim to anything that goes right. If you want to claim to be part of a solution then you need to take part in the solution. I will give you current example, Trump keeps talking about keeping DACA alive but nobody from the left is willing to step forward and talk to him because they are too busy demonizing him. When DACA dies they will have nobody to blame but themselves but they will still try to blame Trump.",
"Read my first reply again. I agreed that the stock market would rise. Trump loves the rich, now how does that help the rest of the country?",
"Well it helped my 401K and my benefit package was just improved. The tax cut that he just passed helped about 75% of Americans and frankly the ones below that don't pay much in terms of tax anyway. He has helped to create a million jobs which means we have the lowest unemployment rate in 17 years which I think is a big part of why my benefit package was improved and now my taxes are going down and I am middle class not rich. Not everything is doom and gloom by a long shot. If more people are gainfullyimployed that implies that more things of value are being created which means employers are in a position to offer more pay and benefits. Visit a country with high unemployment and a weak economy, (Venezuela is an extreme example but there are many more) if you want to see the opposite.",
"We have a lot of people who need it in America already."
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"Writers from shithole countries" display at an indie bookstore
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"A scary unicorn.",
"You are indeed drunk. ",
"Drink until it speaks to you.",
"Now drink tell you're Happy! Yes the freaking blue flying unicorn... "
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The foam in my beer mug looks like a unicorn
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"Of course there's a hot air balloon in the background ",
"You know, I've never noticed that before!\n",
"Really? Well there's another reason to like this picture. "
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Back packed across Europe 2 summers ago. This is one of my favorite pictures from it. Teufen, Switzerland
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"Make America great again, Trump 2016",
"Maga! Ftw!",
"/u/85thoro, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/85thoro&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q23hc/oh_the_irony_of_me_having_took_that_pic_months/?context=10\\))",
"That's not irony, that sticker was a warning."
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Oh the irony... of me having took that pic months ago and posting it to my Twitter.
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"\"I swear it said drive-thru!!\"",
"Place your order when you're ready ",
"Well, his didn't. ",
"Signs don't lie.",
"His night got better, hell his night is legendary now. It's the morning thats gunna suck, but I mean, the mornings after late night jackNDB always do.",
"Your night just got epic",
"wow I'm surprised this doesn't have more upvotes--this is hilarious.\n\nYou should post this over in /r/funny as well. Maybe they will give this the love it deserves.",
"But you didn't [see it](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7psd47/your_night_just_got_better/)",
"Was over there a [Few days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/7psdaz/your_night_got_better_the_stores_got_worse/)"
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I couldn’t believe it when I saw it..
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"Haha! How’d that happen?",
"You have some serious anime-eye going on! ",
"It was worth it for the karma tho ",
"Original post?",
"And the gold never forget the gold.",
"Here's the [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7l9w6j/merry_christmas_i_spent_an_hour_this_morning/). I'm not sure what happened. I had a bump on my scalp for a few days after, then it scabbed over. I've worn it down a lot since then, but didn't have a bald spot until after my shower today. \n\nI'm freaking out! I really hope it grows back. 😩",
"I think you should put the tree back in. ",
"You know what's in style now? Hats. ",
"Did you pull the tree out by it's roots?",
"Biotin might help you.",
"This is not a joke suggestion, Rogaine. My friend used to over pluck his brows. They were sparse and never going to come back. He used Rogaine because of a Tyra Banks show comment and now they're young Brooke Shields level thick.",
"I like that better than my friend's suggestion to shave it all off. I'll look into it!",
"Oh how we suffer for our art.\n\nI hope it grows back soon OP. ",
"Thanks! I'll check it out! ",
"I believe he just applied it with a q tip to avoid waste and get it into a focused area. Good luck!",
"You forgot to water it...",
"Thankfully my part covers it pretty well. I'm pretty horrified though. I almost cried when I saw it. ",
"Also, even though it's not clinically proven, try collagen. It contains biotin.",
"put some Tussin on it",
"You might have ringworm. You should go see a doctor about that.",
"Sounds silly but speak to a pharmacist first! Regular Rogaine for men has a higher dosage of minoxidil which can increase the growth of facial hair once it's in your system, also women are more likely to feel lightheadedness or dizziness using the mens formula!\n\nThis time around it's not just a pink tax, but a slightly altered formula",
"Oh man. I don't want to have a bald spot *and* facial hair. ",
"I pine for the day I can pun this good.",
"Next year you could do that upside down christmas tree thing that's sort of popular nowadays?",
"But.. no shame, and all that...",
"I would recommend going to see a dermatologist to get the proper treatment. ",
"Maybe you can use your new pen to fill it in. ",
"Branch out a little.",
"http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/741/861/6b4.jpg",
"I feel personally attacked right now.",
"Awh, you are still super cute.\n\nSo at least you got that going for you.",
"Hey this might be unrelated to your hair escapades. \n\nGo to a dermatologist immediately. It could be serious and needs treatment. \n\nMy wife had random bald spots and had to get shots. ",
"If I hadn't had weird symptoms on that same spot, I would be more worried. But I did have a bumpy the day after wearing my hair as a Christmas tree, and it was even red and scabbed. I plan on seeing my doctor just in case, but it is too big of a coincidence to be unrelated. ",
"Good call. On it. ",
"But you got a pen",
"See your PCP? maybe an injury, maybe an infection, maybe nothing.. ",
"Ok that one was a little sappy...",
"Then you can get a motorcycle",
"How is this not upvoted higher?",
"Worth it. 😂",
"I had weird symptoms right after I did that hairstyle. My friend thinks the cone I used had trace amounts of formaldehyde or something. I'm going to contact the company to find out. ",
"Yesss. ",
"See the dermatologist OP. A few rounds of kenalog injections could help speed along the hair re-growth process, and Rogaine 2% or 5% should be fine for that spot.",
"I have a scar on my scalp, my hair usually covers it but I've had my hair get shifted in such a way that it shows so I put Anastasia Beverly Hills brow pomade on it. It's water proof and since it's made to fill in brows it comes in shades to blend in with most hair colors. Makes my little bald spot completely camouflaged. ",
"Also, even though it's not clinically proven, try a pig knuckle. It contains collagen. ",
"I really hope mine grows back, but your story gives me hope!",
"/r/gonewild wont judge...",
"[You should have listened to the advice](https://youtu.be/sTJ7AzBIJoI?t=4m27s)",
"It's gonna be ok.",
"Not a fountain pen though, so not *that* worth it. ",
"I'd like to give her wood. ^^^Am ^^^I ^^^doing ^^^it ^^^right?",
"Although some advice might work, you shouldn't really just take their word for it.\n\nGo see a dermatologist, they'll be able to tell you what exactly happened and how to remedy it.",
"A bun on your head suits you anyway.",
"I hear yamakas are great for bold spots. But that may clash with the Christmas tree hair for next year. ",
"Move your part to the side till it grows back. ",
"A Dermotologist will tell her to take biotin. \n\nBut since you had a reaction to something, you should see a dermo. They might put you on Minoxidil.\n\nYou can also ask them about Spirolactane (tone?) which is sometimes given to women to prevent hair loss.\n\n",
"You have very beautiful eyes. ",
"Since it seems no one asked yet, how did you attach the tree to your head? What other material came in contact with your scalp? These may offer some clues as to what happened.",
"Oh my god thank you for this! I have a spot near my temple where hair doesn’t grow for whatever reason and I’m constantly readjusting my hair to cover it when it’s up... I even use dipbrow for my eyebrows already and somehow never thought to do this. Amazing.",
"They make a Rogaine for women with a lower dose ",
"They make a Rogaine for women with a lower dose ",
"They make a Rogaine for women with a lower dose ",
"I'm sorry you ended up with a bald spot. I also hope it grows back soon. For now, how about a new hair style to minimize it's presence?\n Maybe a side part pull more hair over it? Or maybe a tight perm? I feel like your face would allow you to rock both pretty well.",
"I’ve got some spare shame if you need it.",
"She’s back for more karma!!",
"That's an easy fix, just wear the christmas tree hair year-round",
"*yarmulkes*. \n\nYou have the world's greatest dictionary literally at your fingertips. Take a moment and use it.",
"In hindsight, using super glue to keep the foam to your head might have been a bad idea..",
"I did and that came up in google. I may have only looked at the first link and was still half asleep but I tried.",
"And bitcoin.",
"You got one out of two, I am roman catholic but not midwesterner.",
"So much makeup",
"Why look so serious?",
"The tree was my hair. I put that foam cone on my head and pulled my hair up around it. I secured it with a hair tie and hairspray. ",
"I have a bald spot. It's serious.",
"Apparently knot ",
"Okay so the foam cone wasn't glued or anything like that. I'm guessing the foam rubbing actually caused some irritation which is why you had a bump and some scaring. \n\nDon't listen to the ... individuals... pushing \"biotin\" or \"collagen\" to try and get it to grow back.. shit doesn't work. Sprinkling some random protein on your head won't do shit. \n\nGo see a dermo if it doesn't start growing back within a week or so. It's hard to tell from this far, but if you may have peach fuzz there that's coming in.",
"Many topical medications can be absorbed and cause systemic effects. It doesn't necessarily matter where you apply it. ",
"So three times lower then?",
"bald people have had fixes for this for many years. let me share our wisdom. hats. \nkidding aside the tree hair was cool and at least your hair will grow back ... contrasted with the rest of us :)",
"You should just own it and save the rest of it",
"So you're saying that they make Rogaine for women with a lower dose?",
"Me too. I wear hats ",
"Not bad but it would probably bother me if I had it too and saw it. Great christmas hair btw. Just saw the original post",
"Yeah it could be worse, but it still freaked me out. Thanks though!",
"But you could look at the bright side, by next Xmas you might have a full beard, large bald spot, so bleach it all out and go as Santy Claus. 😄"
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You guys liked my Christmas-tree hair, and I told you I have no shame... so behold the aftermath: my bald spot.
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"It's a balcony ",
"Dealy plaza, book depository, Dallas.",
"Truth. Lol. "
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My dad 1960s, not sure of the location.
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"that's a beautiful picture, but i get a slight \"if you enter this room, i will harvest your guts\" vibe from the teddy bear. no offense intended, I'm sure he's a really nice person.",
"Thank you! And yes I think what I like about this picture is the meloncholy it gives you.",
"He looks so sad!",
"r/creepy",
"The moment he looks up is the moment I fly out of the fucking house. "
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Pic I took of a teddy bear at my grandma's house
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[
"The tough get pogoplunging!",
"That's some serious shit",
"For when the actual shithole acts up.",
"A snake would be the appropriate tool to use here. ",
"This is the point where stupidity and genius meet",
"I would like to see that in action, video link please!!!!"
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For when the going gets tough
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"Where is this? Beautiful",
"Big Sur. Go visit but don't drive like a dick. ",
"Very nice. I have traveled there a bunch and spent some time working at a resort there as well. Its a great spot. ",
"Please tell me someone lives on top of that glorious mountain.",
"Feel free to down vote but still.... drive safely on the 1....for real....."
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Probably one of the best pictures of home I'll ever take. (Big Sur, Ca)
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[
"FOR THE LAST TIME, IT’S BILLIE JOE NOT BILLY JOEL YOU ASSHOLES!",
"“Sombady toucha mah spagheti!!”",
"Dank meme alert",
"\"you do not know de way!\"",
"I really shoulda taken guitar lessons, dammit! ",
"OF COURSE WE ARE A PUNK BAND!"
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Caption this (Billie Joe of Green Day)
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"Bird up.",
"Bird to your mother.",
"Flipping birds ",
"Bird Flew",
"Bird's the word.",
"r/donteatjimmy",
"What if the birds had on tiny little sweatshirts with you printed all over them?",
"Why do you even own that shirt? ",
" SCRAWWW WE HAVE CONVERTED A MUDMAN DEFECTOR SCRAWWW\n",
"So I can better connect with my squad ",
"It’d make for a much better photo ",
"werd to big bird. ",
"Fantastic. You should post this in /r/funny as well :) "
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Just me and the squad
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"Fog coming into the San Francisco Bay through the towers of the Golden Gate Bridge. Taken from the Marin Headlands. [864x1080][OC]",
"Awesome pic",
"Thank you. "
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Fog at the Golden Gate
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[
"It looks like this post is about US Politics. Various methods of filtering out content relating to US Politics can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/v2/resources/filter/politics).\n\n*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/pics) if you have any questions or concerns.*",
"I wouldn't dirty my asshole with that fugly white trash mug.",
"The picture isn’t the bad part, it’s only 1 ply. Real TRUMP brand toilet paper gets 2.",
"“Here, kiss my ass!”",
"He's probably collecting a royalty off the stupid trump shit people buy... Congratulations on giving him your money...",
"A little more honor than he deserves.",
"So your parents go to Spencer’s?"
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My parents Trump toilet paper
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"That mans everywhere I swear ",
"woohoo! Some guy!",
"He's super polite too, I was star struck.",
"He definitely seems down to earth to me, maybe that’s just because he started in the military as opposed to being a young celebrity ",
"Is he with Chris Harrison?",
"Holy fuck it's...whoever that guy is....I guess.",
"Dude, saw that too. Its gotta be him, cuz... famous people hang out i guess? Seriously though, thats Chris Harrison.",
"Ooooh. Mildly famous man who's name I don't know!",
"Haha that’s my logic too but I swear that’s him!",
"Lou Ferrigno?",
"In the Faaaaaace! ",
"I would have a beer with him",
"POW!!",
"Incredible",
"Lieutenant Colonel Rob \"Eat your Dick\" Riggle!",
"Rob Riggle?",
"That’s a Kansas City trait. Midwest, really, but I like pretend it’s exclusive to where I grew up. ",
"Yeah that was, I've just never seen the bachelor, but everyone else seem to know him. ",
"And you couldn't just leave the poor a guy alone so he could be a normal person for a little while",
"Is that Peyton Manning?",
"Totally. Bob Wiggle or whoever.\n I know who that is.",
"Ferris Bueller? ",
"/u/Qwertechno had a drink at your restaurant?! Jealous!",
"Isn't it PAH!!!",
"🎵 *closing time*🎵",
"I was expecting Keanu and I got Rob Rolled.",
"Even once I found out his name, I had no idea who he was",
"Some guy? That's 8 time Oscars winner Leonardo Da Vinci! He was great in Conan the Vaper.",
"That's Dave in the blue jacket at the end of the bar!",
"I loved him in that one movie about the guy with the thing.",
"I give up. Who?",
"Big Schmidt!",
"Show him a magic trick.",
"Where is this? And why was Rob with some dude from the bachelor?",
"Gil Thorpe\n",
"Not up in here",
"Idk who tf that is but HOLY SHIT, your restaurant?! ",
"Elon Musk in the back",
"Keanu Reeves looks like shit in this picture",
"Hey look it's a guy who probably wanted to have a drink and be left alone."
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Look who just so happened to come have a drink at my restaurant today!
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[
"Since i put the weight on. I have been sleeping 14 hours a day",
"Put on enough weight, and you could be sleeping 24 hours a day!",
"I think that could be a goal for 2018. I am eating like bear coming out of hibernation at the moment",
"R/me_irl",
"/u/RussellRunes, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No pictures with added/superimposed digital elements.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/RussellRunes&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2e8v/sleep/?context=10\\))"
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Sleep
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[
"That’s r/trashy as hell. ",
"That must outside a bar? I'm a smoker...but I snuff it out and throw the butt in the trash...thats awful to just throw it down and expect someone else to clean it up",
"Its really sad that I see a large portion of smokers who don’t give a shit about their butts. They won’t litter other stuff but butts aren’t the same?",
"Why are so many smokers litterbugs?",
"Sadly, I have helped create such a mess myself and have since changed my ways. I was a chef in the French Alps, and would nip out the back for a quick smoke with the other staff. Throw the cig into the snow. Come March, when the snow started melting, we realised what an absolute mess we have made. Once it was totally melted, we ended up using a lawn mower to cut the patch of grass it was on, and pick up the cigarettes. ",
"Smokers are fucking disgusting.",
"The whole world is an ashtray to many smokers"
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"After the Snow Melts" -Boston MA
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[
"For real? I’m gullible. ",
"trying too hard",
"Got eem",
"How to win your argument: 1) repeat the same things back to the person who just said that idiotic statement. 2) profit.",
"That ain't photoshop, buddy",
"Shithole is going to be word of the year ",
"Grandson, son and husband of immigrants hates immigrants. Clearly a very stable genius.",
"So brave. ",
"And I'm gonna remember if my entire life",
"Can’t wait for Dictionary.com to tweet about it!",
"Now there’s that sense of pride and accomplishment I was searching for. ",
">1) repeat the same things back to the person who just said that idiotic statement. 2) profit.\n\n\n\nDo I win?\n\n",
"Yeah, try putting that on the White House . Double dog dare ya ",
"",
"Hissyfits are the only thing liberals excel at.\n\n",
"We could have never done this in my shithole country. We would have been killed.\n\nEdit: I would just like to formally apologise to the people who are reading this and especially to the people of South Africa. I have been reckless with my words and have allowed my emotions to cloud my judgement; however, my comment is inexcusable.\n\nSouth Africa is an amazing place to live in and there are a few facts about my country that I have recently learned. South Africa does infact have many laws that encourage freedom of speech and protect us from \"being killed\". The comment that I made was largely exaggerated since there have been countless acts of defiance against our president that have not ended in blood shed. I will leave this comment visible to others as a reminder to all that I will be changing my ways.\n\nFrom this day forward, I promise to be more patriotic and loyal to the land that nurtures and educates me. I believe that today I have uncovered a shameful piece of my personality that requires maturing. \n\nI would lastly like to thank those who have encouraged this change in me and I would like to encourage the same change onto others who have ill-feelings toward their own country due to personal tragedies and seemingly racially targeted crimes. We have a right to freedom of speech, but the responsibility to ensure that the things we say do not violate the rights of others.\n\nStay kind and God bless.",
"The intent was to provide a sense of pride and accomplishment...",
"Damn these stupid covfefes sending us shithole words.",
"Trump sincerely believes that *some* people do, and *some* people do not deserve the chance to be Americans, and your birthplace (and by extension, your race) is a key deciding factor in whether you deserve the chance to be an American. \n\nNotice that he did not ask \"Why are we letting in poor people?\" or \"Why are we letting in people without degrees?\" or \"Why are we letting in people with criminal histories\" or \"Why are we letting in people who refuse to learn English?\". No, let's cut the crap, already, because deep down, we know damn well that he's not talking about merit, or even about your place of origin. After everything you've seen, who do you think Trump is more likely to feel is more deserving citizenship? One of those scary Muslims that are \"taking over\" Norway, or a white South African? Cuz I got a feeling that when he's looking at those people, the calculus for determining whether their home countries count as \"shitholes\" suddenly changes. \n\nTrump is practically saying *\"America is for white people. The rest are interlopers until proven otherwise. Until someone explains to me WHY they're even allowed here.\"* Let's not forget either, that in this particular situation, he's not even talking about illegal immigrants. He doesn't get to even use that old fig-leaf. \n\nHe's talking about a reconfiguration of who we even allow the *chance* to become legal, through all the proper channels, not based on merit, not based on national security, not based on employability, but specifically targeted against the people he happens to hate.",
"Save your pearls for The_Donald, they are garbage anywhere else.",
"That's not suicide watch, that's a betting pool.",
"He doesn't seem to hate white immigrants ",
"Everyone? No. Just countries with people of color. Deplorable isn’t strong enough. \n\nThey are the shitstains on public toilets. Every time you want to have a clean and quiet place to collect your thoughts....there they are!",
"Looks like this is finally the end of drumpf.",
"2018 is going to be a hell of a year.",
"Nah. It'll be impeachment. Mueller is going to keep on getting closer and closer to Trump. He's already at the castle gates. Trump can't give him an interview because he'd be caught lying many many times. \n\nThat really doesn't matter though because a shady real estate mogul with ties to the Italian and Russian mafia, a history of cooking the books and fucking contractors over will all come up to bite him in the ass. He never wanted to win. He wanted to lose and start a new television network. He fucked up and won. Now he's screwed. \n\nDon't try and tell me I'm saying this because of that Fire and Fury book. I've never read it. I've stated he never wanted to win for a long time, over a year. He's miserable and paranoid. His paranoia is valid because he knows he's fucked. ",
"At least they didn't spray paint it on the wall. ",
"Sounds like the childish game of \"No, you are!\"",
"Am I the only one impressed with how well framed this projection is? It fits perfectly on the side of this building with a street between the projector and building. It's totally in focus too. Unlike this administration. ",
"Hopefully it won't be a shithole life",
"And then trump will lose his shit over it ",
"And its still january\n\nThe first half of january\n\nwhat a time to start the year",
">covfefes\n\nMan, im kinda nostalgic",
"What country?",
"Baby craves his shithole safe-space it seems.",
"Well played sir, well played",
"We will never know. OP is dead.",
"Just keep telling yourself that buddy. ",
"Dont worry Trump supporters... \n\nWe'll promise to treat you better than Trump treats Mexicans.\n\nThat should be fair.\n\n\n\n ",
"On the ugliest fucking building ever.",
"Edgy",
"We will see won't we? Would you like to place a wager? Mueller made a deal with Flynn. When you make a deal with someone you're usually looking to bust people higher up the ladder. Who's above the National Security Adviser? Trump and Pence? ",
"It’s a brave new world alright. ",
"We are only 13 days in.... I don't have enough covfefe to handle this for another year. ",
"Creating economic growth, being compassionate, subsidizing less-fortunate red states...\n\n...you cherry-picked \"non-violent resistance\", dragged it across your dirty asshole, and held it up as proof that ~~liberals are very fastidious~~ you have a very dirty asshole.\n\nMission accomplished.",
"Well, it IS San Francisco.",
"They gave Hillary's IT hack immunity and nothing happened.",
">do I win? ",
"The two Priuses under the projection speak volumes. ",
"Fair enough",
"What the fuck? You're extrapolating completely unsaid statements. 100% economics not race. He's talking poor countries in central America dealing with cartel violence and refugees from war torn countries in the Middle East. Are they brown and not white? Yes. Is it racist? No. It's economics.",
"How long have you had those fingers in your ears? LOL",
"> It's totally in focus too. Unlike this administration.\n\nAyy Lmao",
"It stops being edgy when the President does it.",
"First off, we don't have anything at all to establish he said it at all. Some folks at the meeting said he did, some folks at the meeting said he didn't. He said he didn't.\n\nSecondly....it is a fucking word. And if he did use it, it seems it was perfectly appropriate.",
"OP is currently busy getting drunk",
"Yea but in San Fransisco \"Shit Hole\" could be the name of a night club.",
"Hilary is nothing. I didn't like her. I don't care about what some lady that has no power does. I get railed on by Trump supporters a lot. I didn't support Hillary. I did vote for her just because I have a daughter and I couldn't in anyway vote for Trump. He's a piece of shit and I thought Hillary would be stable. I wasn't wrong. \n\nPeople like to give credit to Trump for the stock market. Yeah the stock market is going to go up when they know you're going to cut their taxes. He ran on taking down Wall Street. What about people who don't own stocks? He was full of shit. He hired 7? Goldman Sachs people to his team? His tax breaks are garbage. He also ran on healthcare for everyone.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/6inQmf96SYQ",
">Mueller made a deal with Flynn.\n\nNo he didn't. Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI and that's it. If they are going to charge Trump with something based on Flynn's testimony, Flynn has to also plead guilty to that crime.",
"How long have you had CNN's propaganda in yours? LOL\n\nIN PEACH! me no likey!",
"> some folks at the meeting said he didn't. \n\nThat's fake news. They said they don't recall. So two+ people say he did, two more shrugged their shoulders. IDGAF what Trump says, he lies so often.\n\n>it is a fucking word\n\nWords have meanings -as Trump is discovering. He called people shitholes. That's what it means when you say you don't want people from shithole countries - it means you think the people there are why it's a shithole.\n\n>And if he did use it, it seems it was perfectly appropriate.\n\nThat didn't happen.\n\nAnd if it did, it wasn't that bad.\n\nAnd if it was, that's not a big deal.\n\nAnd if it is, that's not my fault.\n\nAnd if it was, I didn't mean it.\n\nAnd if I did...\n\nYou deserved it.\n\n--You just skipped right to the end! Bravo!!",
"You're so right. Drumpf is surely finished!",
"Yes, convictions and indictments are propaganda. Rule. Of. Law. ",
"I'm not a Trump supporter... Just pointing out that making a deal doesn't mean shit these days. Sorry you got triggered.\n\nEdit: You Hillary supporters are a salty bunch.",
">He called people shitholes.\n\nNo he called nations shitholes. Oddly enough, nations that are actually shitholes.\n\n>That's what it means when you say you don't want people from shithole countries - it means you think the people there are why it's a shithole.\n\nNo, it means you don't want people bringing their shitty cultural baggage here. It is also the most humane and positive answer for those shithole nations. They aren't particularly helped by draining off their best and brightest.\n\n",
"Yeah? I'm not triggered. I'm just sitting back and watching. Just calling things like I see them. I could be wrong. ",
">convictions and indictments are propaganda\n\nwhere?\n",
"Probably Russia, America's puppeteer.",
"You're the one bringing up shit that has nothing to do with this conversation...\n\nEdit: So much butthurt.",
">I recognize that the actions I acknowledged in court today were wrong, and, through my faith in God, I am working to set things right. My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel's Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country. I accept full responsibility for my actions\n\n~Micheal Flynn.",
"K",
"Alabama is a shithole, I don't want those people here. = I am denigrating the people of Alabama.\n\nCalifornia is a shithole, people there need to gtfo and go to a nicer place like Texas. = California as a place is a shithole.\n\nIt's not a hard concept. I can call your house a shithole without insulting you because it's due to a flood or fire, and I can call your house a shithole and that's the reason I don't want you to come to my house - that's offensive.",
"Literally Hitler. The Russians will be the end of him, just like with Hitler.",
"Oh, I don't give a fuck about anyone being offended. People need to toughen the fuck up. Especially if they live in a shithole.",
"No he's not. I've already made that abundantly clear. He's just a piece of shit. ",
"What am I supposed to be seeing?\n\nDon't tell me \"agreement to cooperate\". I've already had this argument with so many shills. His pleaing guilty to lying to the FBI is cooperating. \n\nUnless you can show me a charge that is related to whatever they accuse Trump of today, there is nothing.",
"In San Francisco?! I don't believe this. ",
">Oh, I don't give a fuck about anyone being offended. \n\nI didn't accuse you of giving a fuck. From a party who lambasted Obama for violating Presidential decorum when he put his foot on a desk and wore a tan suit to a President who can denigrate an entire continent - wow! That's not even a 180, that's like you threw the rulebook away, took off all your clothes, and are just running through the streets high on bath salts. LOL.",
"Look at his face, says it all.\n\nhttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z3868qotZ_A/hqdefault.jpg\n",
"Shithole leftists can't even prove that Trump said these words about third world countries ",
"He wasn't accused of saying anything about an entire continent. Why do you people have such trouble with the truth?\n\nAnd let us not forget, your lord and savior Barry Obama called Libya a \"shit show,\" so let us not pretend Trump is covering new ground here.",
"What day is today? We've already established collusion. It's not a crime though. I've eaten enough bullshit tonight though . I'm full. I'm sorry. I have nothing against you Trump supporters. You're mainly good people. ",
"Soon California will be our own Mexico. ",
"He called Libya the place, a shitshow...not the people. Trump is covering new ground because he doesn't want people from shitholes coming here - implying the people are shitty. Context is simple, sorry you are not grasping it. ",
"Okay, so just to be clear.... Obama saying Libya is a shit show is just referring to the place. Trump calling Haiti and West Africa a shithole is referring to the people.\n\nHoly fuck, the mental gymnastics you people have to go through.",
"Gold-plated Shithole President. ",
"Ironic coming from a sanctuary city ",
"There are no mental gymnastics. It's really simple.\n\nObama: \"Your house is a shithole since that fire, stay with me this week!\"\n\nTrump: \"Your house is a shithole, stay the fuck off my lawn\"\n",
"What are you talking about? Flynn cut a deal like a month ago, probably because Mueller went after his son. ",
"Both refer to the house, not the occupants. To imply otherwise requires gross dishonesty, almost incalculable mental gymnastics, or both.",
"Would love to understand why you got downvotes. He literally said he wants immigrants from Finland and not Haiti. ",
"My favorite part is this projection is either calling Trump the president of a shithole, in which case the perpetrator has a severe case of self loathing, or it's just bad grammar because shithole refers to a place, not a person. Trump, within the rules of the English language, cannot be a shithole.\n\nEdit: it's so cute how people will plaster the down votes on this comment when all I'm talking about is proper use of the English language.",
">We've already established collusion.\n\nNot really but whatever. ",
"To suggest those situations are the same requires the intellect of a stable genius. Inviting someone over because their house was burned down *is not* the same as telling someone to go fuck themselves because they live in a dump. They are the opposite, actually.\n",
"I didn't say that. But the statement was made that Trump called the people shitholes, which is completely utterly incorrect.\n\nAnd I like that he told them to go fuck themselves. We should do far more of that.",
"Says the guy complaining about \"hissyfits\"",
"Jesus christ, you’re either a troll or a moron. I sincerely hope its the former, but if you don’t understand the difference between Obama calling a failing transition of power that he had a hand in a “shit show” and Trump calling entire nations “shitholes” because they are poorer than the US, you’re just being dense.",
"When was this picture taken again?",
"The stupid....it BURNS",
"His remarks, if he indeed made them, had nothing to do with how poor those nations are. It had to do with them being shitholes.",
"You mean the actual meaning of words.",
"So why are they shitholes then? because the people there aren’t white?",
"Because they are crime and disease ridden cesspools characterized largely by almost totally non-functioning governments and rampant violence.",
">which is completely utterly incorrect.\n\nI'm gonna quote Sanders and just say that the spirit of the meaning is there..and I'm looking at Trumps heart, not his words. Words are hard for Trump, like most 4th graders.",
"Aaaaahhhh so you have some special insight into Trump's heart. You guys have a lot of deep introspective conversations do ya?",
"👽",
"This is crazy how much attention is being spent on this. Go be productive ",
"I know this is not the point of this post but it's not that hard to do with a professional projector, which i would guess this is based on size/brightness",
"The lack of evidence and coherent argument.... its OBVIOUS.",
"Yes, Trump is racist and doesn't want brown people to come into the US. That's what's in his heart. Everyone knows it, just his supporters who don't question him don't like to say it out loud.",
"Even if what you say is true (it isnt), those are all symptoms of a nation’s poverty. But I thought it wasn’t because the countries were poor? At least get your argument straight. \n\n",
"No, that is what fringe-leftist progressives say because they cannot fathom of someone who doesn't agree with their anti-American agenda without being hateful/racist/sexist/whatever.",
"\"San Francisco... where you're not sure if you're in a dog-friendly lesbian bar or a lesbian-friendly dog bar.\"\n\n-Kyle Kinane",
"I’m not sure you understand what the word ironic means.\n\nEdit: Looks like /r/topmindsofreddit are here to defend their very stable and very smart fearless leader. What a fucking joke these lonely, no pussy getting, neck beard having losers are. Bring on the downvotes bitches, I have real life shit to base my worth on, and I just woke up so ima smoke a fat legal bowl on my patio while enjoying our beautiful SoCal weather on my balcony overlooking the ocean, then I’m gonna bang my 10/10 girlfriend. You guys can sit in your moms basement, in your shithole state, watching anime porn and making Pepe memes. Try not to get any dorito crust in your dickhole.",
"Whats anti-American about wanting to carry out politics with decorum? That's being antishithole.",
"Those are in no way a symptom of poverty. They are symptoms of cultural failing. And what I said is absolutely true. You might not like it, since it flies in the face of your \"poor little black people\" narrative, but it remains correct nonetheless.",
"A US Senator who was in the room and heard it himself, and then confirmed it, isn't enough for you? ",
"Getting so bent-around-the-axle because he may have used the word shithole is just evidence of the left's obsession with style and symbology over substance. But that wasn't what I was referring to when I referenced your anti-American agenda.",
"W..wwait? Are you saying Drumpf is not finished? The world is crumbling around me!",
"No, they are the wealthiest state in the country. They have a good government that listens to the people(legal Cannabis, smog reg(CARB), etc).",
"Flynn entered a guilty plea. He flipped. The biggest domino yet. Feel free to keep your head in the sand.",
"> Words have meanings -as Trump is discovering. He called people shitholes.\n\nUhh no..he called the countries they come from shit holes and he isn't wrong. Haitian people eat mud cookies. Go look it up. \n\n",
"You OBVIOUSLY have no idea how prosecutors work.\n\nNot gotta get into a sludgematch with a Trumpet. You could be fed directly from the shithole and ask for seconds, while making fun of libruls for eating shit.\n\nMueller will fuck up the oompa loompa. That is without a doubt. You will lie to yourself and others when it happens. But make no mistake...it is going to happen.\n\nSo, go ahead and respond with whatever asinine drivel Fox told you to believe. I will not respond. But get ready...it's all coming. Donnie & Co. are all fucked.",
"He wants immigrants from established nations who can contribute to American society? WOAH. Mind blown. You mean to tell me you want Haitian people who eat mud cookies and have 0 eduction to come to America? because that is what Haiti is. The poorest western country. They provide nothing to America when they come here. Instead they become another leech off of working Americans.",
"It's like you are trying to suggest people should not care about words... I can see why you want to push that narrative with Trump, lol.",
"It’s a capture from a video of the moment Trump won.",
"Oh no, more the_trumpet cuckolds who keep supporting a failing party as their president lies to them on a daily basis. How sad!",
"I thought it already was. Its funny how Cali welcomes in all these illegal immigrants..meanwhile the mega rich live in extremely secluded areas with fences and walls protecting them and guards to shoo away the poor illegals. ",
"Yeah. He didn't want to win so bad, he went & got Russia to help him win. ",
"No, not at all. Words are important, and they mean things. But getting all upset because he used a word that most Americans wouldn't have any problem using is asinine.",
"You: \"Damn, your house is a shithole since that fire - stay with me for a week!\"\n\nYou: \"Damn, your house is a shithole, get the fuck off my lawn\"\n\nYou are trying to suggest those two have the same meaning. Just look into Trump's heart and you will know that it's the spirit of what he said, not the actual words... LOL. Conway and Sanders are fucking hilarious and a goldmine, aren't they?",
"> I've already made that abundantly clear.\n\nYou really didn't though.",
"CHECKMATE DROPMFFFF",
"My house would be a shithole after a fire - call it one and I am not offended and have no problem. Call it a shithole because I live in it? - Yeah, I am going to take offense, like most Americans. It's like telling your wife food she cooked sucks - you are expecting her to accept that you *meant* the food and not her cooking? Good fucking luck with that!",
"What are you talking about? “Cultural failing”? What does that even mean? \n\nIf you don’t see the relationship between poverty and disease and crime, you are being willfully ignorant. The relationship been documented and studied and analyzed to an incredible extent. Colonial powers came in. They exploited/exterminated the native populations, and then fucked off, except for in the US and Canada, where colonists stayed and basically killed all the natives.",
"There will be hell toupee for this!",
"For fuck's sake....none of that matters in the slightest. They ARE shitholes. Why they are shitholes is irrelevant in the extreme. And no, we don't need or want them here.",
"pretty sure president trump didnt say it, even though he did its probably true. ",
"San Fran is the home of the snowflake! It’s a joy how upset they get at nothing... utter joy. 👍",
"Wat",
"He didn't say it was a shithole because of the people who live there, that is your interpretation because you think you know what other people think.",
"You don't need to promise me that you'll treat your countrymen better then trump treats aliens, that's just common sense.",
"It's not easy to mask/map in a mobile setting in a big city when the image you're about to project will almost certainly piss off the cops/bystanders.",
"No, lol. That's a problem - trust in any words (fake or not) just because of your angry. ",
"u no spek anglish, senor",
"> it didn't happen\n\nto\n\n> they deserved it\n\nin only three comments.",
"Well that's ironic.",
"Well, California is the shithole of the U.S. so it seems fitting.",
"I think: He wont bring charges nor prosecute until he's out of office to keep him from pardoning himself. If Mueller is smart, he will gather all the evidence needed and divert Trump's attention by publicizing an investigation into Hillary. This will fool Trump into thinking his case is over and please him enough not to try to fire him. Once out of office comes the fire and fury! ",
"Last administration didn't have a focus either, nor the one before that.",
"There's 0 evidence to support that he actually said the word \"shithole\" but don't let that ruin your narrative! \n\nhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/dick-durbin-refutes-trump-says-he-did-use-the-word-shitholes-repeatedly/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=46898290\n\nI'm staring to believe you guys will fall for anything the media says. Next thing you know y'all are gonna be running around saying Trump paid Russian hookers to pee on Obamas bed or something. But no one is stupid enough to believe that.... Right? ",
"That doesn't even make sense. You could say the president is turning the US into a shithole, I don't agree with that statement but at least grammatically it makes some kind of sense.",
"No interpretation necessary - everyone knows what you mean when you tell someone their place is a shithole and you don't want them here.",
"Did he not say the exact opposite multiple times?",
"I mean it's pretty much been probven at this point the reason that rich people are so for accepting illegal immigration is because \n\n1. Because their rich and probably have done nothing worthwhile for humanity they feel like they need to be pro immigration to \"do somthing good for the world\"\nor most likely \n2. They love the massive influx of cheap labor coming in and take advantage of it. They love paying their mexican maids 2$ a hour and she'll never complain. These people are new age slaves for the elite of california, plus they know being rich and in gated areas they'll never have to really deal with the consquences. ",
"Yes...\"you obviously can't take care of your shit, I don't want you coming here and fucking our shit up.\"\n\nWhich is both reasonable and good policy.",
"The old \"I know you are but what am I\" argument. Very effective in preschools. ",
"you just quoted your own post that has nothing to do with my reply. Reread what I said and try again. Haitian's eat mud for food..yet you defend them coming to America so they can leech off the system. You also probably live in California. ",
"https://files.taxfoundation.org/20170123145044/FedAidtoStates-011.png",
">you...you\n\nI'm glad we finally agree he is calling people 'shitholes'. Took a while! Congrats! It's all the poor people of Africa that make it a terrible place, not the leadership or politics or companies...the *people*, fuck them! Now you are on the same page as the KKK! Nice!",
"Either that or they don't know what a sanctuary city is.",
"To be fair, most people make their countries shithole. For example, Mexico and it drug trade have completely decimated that country, that why they're fucking coming here. Example 2, the U.S. how the fuck did we elect a fucking president hell-bent on making it as politically correct as fucking possible, and how did he live through 8 years of his two terms? To this day, I don't see how no hillbilly hick from the most isolated backwoods of Tennessee had tried to assassinate Obama. \n\nWe're fucked anyway, welcome to America, Shitholes.",
"I think that was sarcasm ",
"Oh so *you’re* just flat out racist, even if the president isn’t (which he is). How do you know they provide nothing? They join our military. They go to school. They can study to become doctors and lawyers and engineers. Or their kids can. I have a friend who immigrated from\nZimbabwe. Got a perfect score on the MCAT. He’ll go to any of the best Med-Schools in the country. He wants to be a pediatric oncologist. He wants to cure cancer in children. Does he leech off Americans? Does he offer nothing? Another friend from Iran moved to the States with his parents as a baby. Now works for Google. His parents are both university professors. This country would be worse off without them. Neither of us will contribute as much to society as any of them will. Somehow they’re the leeches. Ok.\n\n",
"But he didn't. He called their nations shitholes. Words mean things.",
"Uh... reread the usernames of the people you've been talking to, bud.",
"Shithole SanFran more like.",
"Wow, you backpeddled faster than Trump!!",
"Same difference. The first example was because the shithole probably tried to flambe something and fucked it up. Second example is because the shithole let his shithole become a shithole because he's a shithole. Trump's heart has nothing to do with it, just like Obama had nothing to do with the existence revocation of one Osama Bin Laden simply because he was president when it happened.",
">No, it means you don't want people bringing their shitty cultural baggage here.\n\nBring us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses...",
"I have only said it maybe a dozen times. Although I must admit, you don't seem like you are all that good with English, so I cannot pretend to be surprised you didn't follow.",
"Cheers! ",
"Yes we do want them here. \n\n“Give me your tired, your poor,\nYour huddled masses yearning to breathe free,\nThe wretched refuse of your teeming shore.\nSend these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,\nI lift my lamp beside the golden door!\"\n\nThe United States is a nation of immigrants. It has been since its inception. To deny that is just ignorant.",
">Bring us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses...\n\nIs a genuinely awful idea, and fortunately isn't anything more than a poem.",
"Who will pay for their school? When American students cannot even afford it themselves. \n\nI to have a friend who scored a perfect perfect score on the MCATS that 2x the perfect score your friend scored and he can also go to even more of the best medical schools in the country. He wants to be a INFANT oncologist. \n\nYou see what I did I just made up a bullshit story like you did. You don't have an immigrant friend from Zimbabwe. ",
"The world itself is a shithole these days. We only have ourselves to blame. Funny how everyone feeds on politics. ",
"Trigged Trump snowflakes are brigading. Hysterical.\n\nE: context is lost now that he's at positive karma.",
"Really ahve you know? Where's the evidence because if you have it there is an entire country that would love to see it... Too bad you don't actually have it, so keep puking up that Bull Shit you are so full of.",
"The people involved in making Mexico a shithole are not the people trying to escape it. That is the point most logical people are aware of and why Trump's comments are so offensive - he is kicking the family running onto his lawn back into a burning house because he doesn't like them. That is anti-American in every way.\n\n>how did he live through 8 years of his two terms?\n\nSecret Service is good at what they do.\n\n>I don't see how no hillbilly hick from the most isolated backwoods of Tennessee had tried to assassinate Obama.\n\nThey did, and didn't get far. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_assassination_plot_in_Tennessee\n",
">Yes we do want them here.\n\nNo, we don't.\n\n>“Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!\"\n\nA stupid, stupid idea from a very different time.\n\n>The United States is a nation of immigrants. It has been since its inception. To deny that is just ignorant.\n\nBut it was never intended to be a nation of immigrants from shithole nations like Haiti or the West African countries.",
"Nobody gives a shit what you do in San Francisco. Source: Live in San Francisco. ",
"Nah guys like him always skate.\n",
"San Franshithole?\n\n\"A place in San Francisco’s Mission District that was recently named one of the “most beautiful spots” in the city by San Francisco Travel Magazine has turned into an outdoor toilet, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.\nSan Francisco’s human waste problem has reportedly extended far beyond its downtown region, seeing a 2.5-fold increase since Mayor Ed Lee has taken office four years ago.\n\n“Every time you get between the cars, you can look and see crap, piss, throw-up, whatever,” San Francisco resident Rick Crecy told the Chronicle. “I’ve seen people banging heroin, sleeping, having sex, everything. And it’s much worse now than it ever was.”\n-- from some site I probably shouldn't link to...",
"You can't seem to grasp that calling your wifes food shit won't be offensive to her because you **insist** it was the food that was shit!",
"You really don't think someone from Zimbabwe can be a benefit to society and it must be false? You got some issues lol. I've worked with some great people from different parts of Africa that are super poor, two different guys when I was at Amazon, they were good dudes. What does the poorness of the xountry have to do with the quality of the people?",
"Not only that but the fifth largest economy in the world.",
"I love him. His description of buying a fan and having it just circulate hot farts almost killed me.",
"\"We don't want speedy federal response and relief! We want a president that will hug a sad person when cameras are around!\" - no disaster victim ever",
"Not the whole city, but 7th and Mission is pretty gross...",
"Yeah that was kind of ignorant, on his part. A lot of the people where I live openly support Donald and a lot of my family does. They know I don't, and nobody that is a good person cares. \n\nPolitics is like music. Sure I like shock rap. Not everyone does. To attack that person, to think less of them because they don't like the same people I do is gutless, it's unamerican. ",
"Alot..America shouldn't be taking in any poor immigrants. That in no way benefits us. ",
"What, you don't like the little retarded light strip at the top?\n/s",
"Today you say no-one can prove he said it. Tomorrow more evidence comes out and you will say he didn't mean it the way it was interpreted by leftist media. The day after that you'll say it doesn't matter and he's brave to tell the truth. Rinse and repeat every time he says something fucked up. Whatever you do, don't actually think about what is being said.",
"Kicking illegals back to their country isn't anti-american. Allowing them to stay long past their visas or illegally entirely is anti-american. I'm for immigration if it's done right, not when you think you're entitled to hop a fence and claim you live here now, however. Especially in Texas where ranchers have lost land to illegal squatters from Mexico and there's nothing they can do about it.\n\nTry pulling that shit in any other country, you'd be jailed OR executed simply because you were immigrating illegally.\n\nKudos on that cited research though, I actually didn't know about that assassination plot.",
"They all exist. If I was willing to doxx myself and my friends so that I could prove a point to an internet racist, I would send you their linkedin info. \n\nAnd: Student Loans, Financial Aid, Scholarships. All three are avenues for anybody to go to college. Debt complicates the calculus, but at the very least, student loans are available to everyone.",
"Actually he is right, but he didn't said word \"shithole\". It's just fake news ",
"Apologist at best, fellow racist at worst. It's not just a word AH. You might fool magats with that crap... ",
"Fake news",
"How ironic",
"It is just a word. And if you give the use of a word enough power to upset your day, you are a weak-minded fool.\n\n(and they are indeed shitholes, he was right)",
"If you’re comparing the Obama administration to this mess, you’ve clearly lost the plot. ",
"Should probably get rid of shithole citizens, too. What are you contributing to society? Might need to add your shit name to the shit list. ",
"Well, from what I understand, Puerto Rico got neither.",
"Are we adults...?",
"It’s the people who voted for trump who are the shit holes",
"Very few people die because of musical tastes.\n\nPolitics has the ability to mess up or kill a hell of a lot of people.\n\nThe fact that you think politicians shouldn't be held to any standards and people ought to just \"follow their hearts\" is incredibly stupid. Donald Trump is going to get a lot of people killed before this is over by his sheer incompetence, and it's absolutely not the same as having different tastes in music.",
"Shithole city also.",
"Just curious on how his tax breaks are garbage? I just saw the savings table and I’ll be getting an extra $120-150 a pay period back in my paycheck that the government was taking. Unless you’re referring to the handouts not being enough? ",
"as someone who lives on the west coast. other states are bussing their homeless here. This problem is being thrown on us.",
"Just shithole countries like Ireland and Germany and Italy at different points in the last 2 centuries? How about from Eastern Europe in WWII? People don’t leave their home country to immigrate to the US when shit is good for them. They come to improve their lives. \n\nIf you want to articulate your argument at all, I’d love to hear it. Because you’re just saying the same thing over and over again without explaining why.\n\nWhy is that idea stupid? Its worked incredibly well so far? One could say the same thing against the second amendment, no? \n\nWhy do you get to decide what countries people can immigrate from?\n\n\n\n",
"Holy sensitive skin, batman ",
"Why not? All you need is a projector and a laptop with the right software. You could pretty easily map onto specific bricks if you wanted to. \nSource: Done some projection mapping for clubs.",
"AM I THE ONLY ONE GUYS??!",
">what a time to start the year \n\nI prefer to start my years in February ",
"Yawn, tell me when actual news breaks. They have been beating the same angle down for 14 months and what exactly are they working towards? Putin paying Facebook to be pro Trump? Trump having ties to Russian and them hacking Hillary? Trump have vested interests in hotels and businesses in Russia? Not impressed, come back with something better.",
"I don't understand why people are acting like trump should have been reset at midnight on new year's eve. Things don't build and build all year and then suddenly start over in the new year. What we're seeing now isn't some huge escalation in trump's behavior. It's just continuing to build.",
"The Obama administration WAS the mess, as well as the shit show that was the \"Nucular\" administration. Do you not fucking realize how screwed you are politically? Obama didn't give a damn about the people that voted for him, Trump doesn't give a damn about the people that voted for him, the next president won't give a damn about the people that vote for them. WE as a nation CANNOT WIN simply because in all cases, the president has been incompetent. \n\nBush jr. got our asses involved in a war that was completely baseless and continued for years upon years which hurt everything from the stock market to employment. Obama DOUBLED our national debt, Trump is about to start WORLD WAR FUCKING 3. The next president, assuming we're around will likely fuck that up too. ",
">that some people\n\nIf it were only 'some' people, we could vet them - but Trump doesn't want **anyone** from these shithole countries. If you agree, you are on the same page as the KKK.\n\n>White supremacist Richard Spencer, an organizer of the \"Unite the Right\" rally in Charlottesville, Va., last year, lambasted conservatives defending the president on Fox News for pretending the remark was not racial in nature.\n\n>“It’s obviously all about race, and to their credit, liberals point out the obvious,” he told The Times.\n\n>The Daily Stormer, the largest neo-Nazi website online, welcomed Trump's reported remark, saying it was evidence he was \"more or less on the same page with us.\"\n\n>“This is encouraging and refreshing, as it indicates Trump is more or less on the same page as us with regards to race and immigration,” the site said.\n\n>A good portion of the left, hating on the south and alabama because of teh people their according to you now makes a good portion of the left on teh same page as the KKK.\n\nNot really - these are where the KKK lives. The left hates the KKK not the people of those states. The people of those states are among the nicest I've met (didn't see any overt racism either!) - way nicer than Jersey people, lol - fuck those guys.\n\n>Thanks for making it ABUNDANTLY clear what your stance and point of view is.\n\nYou are welcome!\n\n>If we are following teh liberal agenda we could go ahead and just call you a racist right now and dismiss the rest of your points since you're a racist.\n\nI don't think the KKK is a race - but if hating the KKK makes me a special racist in your eyes, they by all means! Call me a racist for hating on the KKK!",
"I mean there's shit to say to actually belittle him, based on shit he's done and said, why make fun of his name?",
"You shouldn’t get so worked up. Take a moment and realize you’re arguing with a 12 year old from the_donald. It’s not worth it. ",
"*Nobody cares where you shit in San Francisco.",
"Look at the size, brightness, and contrast of that projected image and tell me you'd risk the projector that made it to one pissed off bystander. If you've done any VJing you know that's not a cheap one, and your business insurance might have issues with paying this one out.",
"Right? Plus good friend of mine is a small business owner and is loving it. Anyone I know that has kids is loving it, etc.",
"And you're just a shithole racist if you dismiss this as just a word. I can't help you if you're that stupid",
">Just shithole countries like Ireland and Germany and Italy at different points in the last 2 centuries? How about from Eastern Europe in WWII? People don’t leave their home country to immigrate to the US when shit is good for them. They come to improve their lives.\n\nBut they weren't shitholes, not on the order of Haiti.\n\n>Why is that idea stupid? \n\nBecause it doesn't do us any good to just throw open the door to just anyone from any shithole.\n\n>Its worked incredibly well so far? \n\nIt worked pretty well up until the 60's.\n\n>Why do you get to decide what countries people can immigrate from?\n\nTeddy Kennedy (not exactly a hardcore right-wing racist xenophobe) on his Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, \"our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset.\" Even Uncle Teddy recognized America was better off with a more-or-less homogeneous cultural identity.",
"Equating the Trump and Obama administrations is just plain ignorant. And, FYI, Obama reduced the deficit. ",
"I used to live on 6th Ave and walk by this building every day on my way to Market. This has got to be, without a doubt, the ugliest building I have ever laid eyes on.",
">someone makes a very level headed comment that you don't agree with \n\n>le triggered snowflake\n",
"He didn't say anything about anyone's race. Your entire idea that anything you don't like is racist is far far beyond stupid.",
"Beware of wishful thinking, wishes only get you wishes. He needs to find evidence of criminal activity for impeachment. Being a contentious wanker, an abhorrent example of humanity or simply milking the system is not \"criminal\". In some political circles they are almost mandatory!\n\nThe political classes in most democracies are highly hesitant to start talking about their opponent's funding sources. It's a mutually assured destruction scenario as all parties have their dodgy donors. It's the same with expenses fraud, there's an unwritten rule just to not go there.\n\nIf anything comes of this I'll be surprised. ",
"Oh geez, people act like we haven't called them \"3rd world countries\" for decades, or the nice term for shithole. ",
"Why?",
"Trump wasn't discussing illegal immigration, he was talking about the good kind of immigration, asylum, work-visas, and things like that - he doesn't want 'those people' able to use the that kind of immigration. \n\nThe US is better than most countries because we *don't* treat illegal immigrants in those ways. Comparing us to that is just lowering the bar to the point you are not talking about America anymore.\n\nIt's absolutely anti-American to refuse to help people when you can and how you can.",
"Impeachment would require at least 46 Republicans in the House of Representatives to get on board (assuming the entire Democratic caucus is on board). \n\nThe only conceivable way it would happen is if 1) Mueller brings substantive charges against the President himself, 2) Trump presents a significant danger to Republican incumbent re-election, AND possibly 3) if and only if leadership is OK having Pence as president (possibly). \n\nOtherwise, why rock the boat? ",
"I mean it's funny and all but this is the same town that let an illegal immigrant walk after he shot and killed a girl. Fuck San Fran. ",
"You're the reason his sarcastic comment is funny",
"Trump not good, amirite guys?",
"We are the wealthiest state in the country despite our government, not because of it. It does good things, but it does just as many moronic things. If California wasn't some of the most beautiful and bountiful land on earth, our government would have run this place into the ground.",
"These sort of displays happen all of the time. It's preaching to the chior. 91% of SF voted against him. ",
"Reread it - I didn't say her cooking was shit. I said her food was shit - and she will absolutely take it to mean I said her cooking was shit...which, hilariously enough, you proved by saying exactly that. You are the one trying to argue with her by insisting you meant the **food** not her cooking!! LOL",
"You'll notice there's a pattern. Those \"stretches\" aren't isolated. If Trump was a tenth of the idiotic monster most people thought he was, He would be ten times worse than he actually is.",
"They were not called that because of the people who lived in them. They were called that because of how economically developed they were. Way to prove the liberal perspective on this!",
"Trumplethinskin",
"Your analogy is inept and doesn't say what you think it does. Saying the food someone prepares is shit is precisely the same thing as saying their cooking is shit. Saying your home is a shithole is not the same thing as saying you are a shithole. You seem to be having a LOT of trouble with English, would you rather continue this discussion in your native language?",
"\"It's over soon, Mueller's getting closer.\" says increasingly nervous man for the seventieth time.",
"Yeah! Stop paying attention to politics, it's not like what they do directly affects your life. It's not like they're adding trillions to our debt or trying to steal healthcare and social security and our first amendment rights while calling nazis good people and insulting black athletes and war widows!! \n\nDo something productive like mowing the lawn!!!!!!!!",
"I don’t think they understand a lot of words. ",
"Tourists, yo. The only time I've been to SF was visiting my GF's family... including her folks from Orange County.\n\nIt only takes one dipshit to make a scene, and a projector that big/bright/generally good isn't cheap.",
"Doesn’t matter. He’s not gonna go down for the crime, he’s gonna go down for the cover up. It’s gonna be perjury or obstruction of justice.",
"Doesn't even make sense",
"Typed the typer on his typey.",
"Typed the typer. ",
"Why do you think a person from Haiti is so worthless ",
"i thought he made a good point",
"It's not about the sense it makes to us. It's about getting under Trump's skin. It'd be surprising if the way to do that *did* make sense to most people, considering the man is a sociopathic bigot.",
"Remember when Mexico was there before?",
"You canˋt tell how far away the projector is. Also every light source in the image is completely over exposed, telling me that itˋs not very bright. Not the cheapest projector for sure, but nothing cinema grade. Iˋm also guessing that it is located in a van or something and not just propped up on the sidewalk.",
"yeah! Keep calling half the country shitholes! That's sure worked for you before, what could go wrong? You're sure to win 2020 if you keep that up.\n\nFucking dumbass.",
"Lol teenagers",
"Trump isn't against immigration, he's got an assload (Fun Fact: an assload is an actual measurement) of immigrant minorities on his payroll (as business man, not president). If he kicked them back home he'd have to hire actual citizens which raises his workforce cost, which leads to an increase in charges for services rendered. You go to any big business like that and it's the same. \n\nIllegals do not contribute to society. You won't see them paying back anything to where they live in the form of volunteer work or taxes. Hell, if you ask any immigrant here legally, they will tell you the same thing because they've actually gone through the process of becoming a citizen and some do other things for their society in which they live.\n\nIf you're going to revert to technicalities, everyone not of Native descent would have to leave and give this land back to the native people because it was forcibly stolen from us and then ruined by the white man and their slave trades.",
"Said the guy on the internet.",
"I don't even know what that means",
"Well, a lot of people view the USA as a shithole (regardless of who is president), more so San Francisco, so they're technically correct.",
"Lol you teenagers",
"What's shocking is that there was still 9% that actually voted for him.",
"Fake news alert everybody! This guy has got it! Lol",
"The same sense as calling a country a shithole",
"Lol",
"Learned a new word recently?",
"The year always starts at midnight.",
"Haha, leftists set worse every day.",
"Come on, that's not fair. I work in homeless in SF and mission/7th isn't too bad. I also think a big part of the \"issues\" with the are is due to the re-drawing of the districts",
"For someone who thinks taxation is theft, you're remarkably OK with someone who literally advocated for police brutality. Stick to your safe space where your dumb libertarian ideas won't conflict with your dumb authoritarian ones.",
"The kerning is perfect ",
"hey California, weren't you, like, seceding or something? Anything we can do to help expedite the process?\n\nSincerely,\n\nThe rest of sane america",
"It's not even reached the first half of January\n\nWe're only about 42% through January",
"People who live in glass shitholes shouldn't throw stones.",
"lol\n\nkeep living that dream, friend. see you in 2020\n\nedit to add: /u/hurtsdonut_ [confirmed conspiratard](https://www.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/comments/7kyi79/howls_coming_from_the_woods_in_moricetown_bc/).\n\nthese are the people propagating Trump conspiracies. They're not sending their best, folks. ",
"uhhh a super power is defined by its military",
"could this finally be what stumps trump? guys berniecanstillwinthisMATCHME",
"Lol",
"hahahaa....yea pretty much proven. You have no clue what you're talking about but that was fuckin funny.",
"Of course. San Franshithole.",
"A van's just a bigger target for some pissed off bystander to damage. Mapping in a club or two is easy, you're getting paid to be there and there's usually bouncers or at least roidy barbacks. Mapping a political message on a bustling city street is a different story, and way, way riskier.",
"You are illiterate.",
"Well, if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black.",
"> The only conceivable way it would happen is if 1) Mueller brings substantive charges against the President himself\n\nlol yes, that is literally the only conceivable way to impeach the president, how very astute of you",
"He got Russia to dig dirt on HC. ",
"Said the guy at home.",
"Its promising to be a shithole.\n",
"Lol. Dipshit #1 asks to show where any charges were filed, so they say Flynn. Dipshit #2 (you) says that doesn't count.\n\nMake sure you take care of your back. I hear moving goalposts can be strenuous. ",
"> Would you like to place a wager?\n\nI'd *love* to make a wager. what are the terms? There are ways to anonymously set up a secure wager online, right? betmoose or something?",
"It's a list of three items you dotard",
"not really",
"Because turning the deficit from $10 trillion to $19 trillion is a reduction. Excellent math you did there, Salsafight.\n\nObama reduced national moral which saw a massive drop in the stock market. There was a financial scare due to the abilities of employers being able to pay employees shit pay that people didn't and couldn't spend. Throughout Obama's term, I've seen the prices of many survival staples increase and now the prices are starting to decline a year later. \n\nTo be fair, I didn't even vote for Trump, nor Sanders or that conniving bitch Cunton, but I won't deny the changes that came with Obama's removal from the White House at the end of his terms as the figurehead of the United States as being mostly good.",
"There is poop everywhere there",
"But some countries are shitholes",
"Dude, they are shit holes. It's not racist, it's okay to admit it",
"Um, stalker!",
"That’s an unfair comparison. Politics can affect people’s lives in real significant ways. ",
"it's one of many acrobatic acts you'll see in The Mental Gymnastics of the Hypocritical Left ",
"except not? Calling someone by their ancestral name isn't even really an insult. Meanwhile, haiti is demonstrably a shithole.\n\nlol i love the downvotes, though. Haiti is a shithole and we can prove it mathematically if you'd like. ",
"It would be good if it was permanent, but it's not. ",
"actually that isnt shocking at all",
"Well played sir, well played ",
">entirely expected coming from a sanctuary city\n\nFTFY",
"I'm a proud member of my local chior. We do chants and shit. ",
"This echoing of this chamber is quite deafening",
"Mmmm nice. ",
"Carl is naive. Trump supporters don't deserve any kindness. They show none to anyone else that's not in their in-group.",
"San Francisco is like 93% white\n\nSo glad to see white liberals telling us non-whites what to think and feel.\n\nEdit: 76.9% white",
"Lol so edgy! Let’s take a completely unverified report of something that the president said and blast it on the side of a building with lights! That will show him, and more importantly, that will help fix the issues that we are facing!!",
"Ive been using it for years",
"You don’t have to stretch the man’s words to think he’s an idiotic monster. Just listen to him speak. No media manipulation or spin required. ",
"You think he will wait 3 years? Doesn't sound realistic.",
"When your kid moves to a bigger city for new opportunities, remember that the motherfucker came from a shithole to leech on hard working people of that city. ",
"yes i do believe that was the joke",
"I don't like them. They are coarse and rough and irritating and they are everywhere",
"Odd how one liberal heard this and nobody can back up the claim. Hmm.",
"No. Government of the people, by the government, for the government at its finest. AKA, a liberal shithole. Fuck California. Many reasons that I moved away, and I am VERY satisfied. I will NEVER go back.",
"Hey look, it's one of those spammers from the [spam ring](https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/7mmfvh/reddit_user_unveils_a_spam_ring_and_also_includes/) discovered last month.",
"Frustration, anger, disappointment, being appalled... Pick one",
"But hey, a couple of them got single rolls of paper towels.",
"Cherry picker lol",
"Well, he killed himself so technically a Nazi killed Hitler. ",
"It truly is a great word to begin with",
"Too bad he didn't say it. ",
"god bless them!!!",
"I just looked through /r/all and I have yet to find a more true statement.",
"christ... this subreddit is corny as fuck",
"People started using \"Drumpf\" to point out the hypocrisy of Trump mocking Jon Stewart last year for using a stage name instead of his real last name Leibowitz.",
"I understood that reference",
"And beyond that, conviction in his Senate trial would currently require 16 Republican Senators to vote against him. The numbers do not add up, and still won't after the 2018 elections, no matter the outcome. Trump's presidency is not going to end in impeachment.",
"Right after the Valentine's Day?",
"Why is that shocking? Even the dumbest groups of people are led by someone.",
"The hype people have to hate is ridiculous, I guess I should start taking stock tips from the Huffington Post now.",
"it's less trashy than \"fuck trump\" at least",
"Have an upvote. You're gonna need it. ",
"It would be...if he actually said it.",
"Downvoted by your comrades",
"Well played sir, well played",
"Your sad. Someday maybe you can think for yourself.",
"I was unsure if you were trolling or not until now. Good one!",
"The guy was calling out a Trump supporter...",
"With all this going on, I can only imagine how interesting this will be to watch in a movie. \n\nIt should be advertised like **Horror movie, inspired by like, real life incidents**\n\nAny movie title suggestions?",
"Economy is a reflection of the people and the businesses ran the people. If they are challenged to be developed, it's the people's fault. Usually these countries suffered through many years of corruption from shitty people that stole from their own.",
"It’s OK for a president or world leader to say it? ",
"which you did not format properly, not my fault bruv. grammar 101: when multiple items in a list are dependent on one another, you say so or put AND between them",
"Yoooooooo!",
"Lets put shithole on the side on the 9th circuit while we're there",
"Reddit, and the internet as a whole make the political divide seem so much worse than it is. I think liberalism is a blight on civil society, but I've also got tons of friends and coworkers that are liberal, and at the end of the day, Most of the political shit we fling at each other becomes jokes the next time we all throw around when we're piss drunk stumbling around town together. ",
"/yawn \n \nMessage me when something significant happens and it's not a bunch of talk.",
"What's keming?",
"-22 karma. lol.\n\nCome on, you should know better than to post in disagreement with liberals on reddit. lmfao.",
"Because it's pointing out his hypocrisy in making fun of other people's changed family names and he and his supporters don't seem to like it. ",
"Next seven years ",
"Insightful",
"/r/keming",
"He's the current leader. You shouldn't have to pick a political party to hate him. That's the true spirit of politics. ",
"Clever.",
"Yeah",
"You mean like how Hillary openly stated she wanted war with Russia? and Literally left Americans to die in a situation where they could have been saved, only to lie about the cause of said situation to pin the blame on \"White America?\" Yeah, ok. ",
"I prefer April when it starts to warm up a bit.",
"Welcome to graphic design! Enjoy your stay!",
"He's not president though.",
"I love Trump.",
"It takes a lot more effort to make a scene in SF than most places. ",
"/r/the_donald is leaking and it smells like sewage",
"No, it'll be mostly forgotten in a few weeks, and only surface deflatedly when someone thinks they're trying to be funny and original.",
"Well the Puerto Rican president should've helped his people then. Why is it on Trump?",
"I just think he paid a troll farm to flame Hillary supporters and make them act like complete nazis. \n\nYou have these women saying \"I'm being harassed everyday we need to censor -website-\"\n\nAnd on the surface is just looks like a bunch of dumb kids talking shit. \n\nUntil you dig into the harassers and find out they are saying real vile shit with real information and they have a very thin post history with odd peer groups. \n\nWant to talk about stirring the pot. ",
"Are you a dog? ",
"I'm australian, so i don't have a dog in this race, but this is like the democrat version of misspelling Barack Osama.\n\nActually the Osama pun is arguably better, because as a burn, it's essentially calling the President his greatest enemy at the time. \n\nDrumpf... Drumpf is just a funny word. \n",
"Right after Valentine's Day.",
"could have had one team spotting for the projector adjustments near the building. ",
"The last two years have worn me out, I'm bummed out we live in such a volatile country ",
"Plenty of very wealthy people will always vote red simply because they hope to keep more of their money.",
"I hope so too! Im just glad that the ideas that I’m mindlessly following aren’t racist and xenophobic. Hope you can someday say the same!",
"its been renamed Shitholetines Day\n\nand Merry Shithole by the way.",
"Well I’ll take temporary money anyway they want to give it. When the dems take over next round are you still gonna blame trump when the tax breaks expire or the new group for not continuing them? ",
"The left doesn't give a shit. Just fall in line and vote for them and they'll keep doing whatever in the fuck it is they say they're doing for you.",
"Because fuck em, that’s why ",
"Wasn't the reason for this originally that Trump started it, mocking John Stewart for not using his original family name?",
"you seem to have missed the point rather expertly",
"Maybe this is the year California secedes.",
"TBF, SF is a shithole city, so...",
"In reality, 48.1%. ",
"How does he hate immigrants? As you say, he comes from them and married one... is it possible that he just accepts that the third world has problems that it'd be unwise to import?",
">shithole",
"AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.\n\nHe just said they're the wealthiest state in the country. haha.",
"That’s sanctuary state for you. Let everyone commit murder and let them walk away with no repercussions. ",
"93%, 48% practically the same numbers m I rite\n\n\nI don’t even disagree with your statement but why preface it with absurd untruth ",
"shithole city right there....",
"Nah, tourists aren’t going south of market there unless they’re judiciary nerds going to see the 9th circuit across the street. ",
"I’d argue quoting is not repeating the same things back",
"Quick, to the shit cave! We must add him with the shit computer. ",
"\"Comments that I don't like? Must be a brigade!\"\n\nA brigade implies an organized and targeted effort. Where is this brigade being organized, exactly? This is just people wandering in from /r/all.",
"The point is, the government can't function if taxes aren't taken from somewhere. If the tax break is permanent for corporations (which make more money) and the tax break for the middle class is temporary, where do you think the taxes are going to come from when the temporary tax cut for the middle class expires? ",
"Not sure if joking or just ignorant...",
"That 9% probably own 50% of the bay area",
"Drumpf bad XDDD ",
"God I fucking love this city",
"I love that projector graffiti has become the standard now. ",
"It's like no one has ever said something is a shithole before.....",
"That should be \"Shithouse President\" surely? If you were to use Australian vernacular. \nJust saying.",
"Everyone in this country is an immigrant, that's the point.",
"I hate to be the pesimist, but you're gonna have to take this for about 3 more years I'm afraid...",
"He's in a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario at this point. He tried to be nice guy a few months ago and that didn't work. Before that he was a bastard. Presently still a bastard. He can't up and start being nice guy because \"his side\" will call him a pussy. The Dems will call him a backstabber. Just has to stick with his fuck everybody attitude at this point.",
"Lol 93%. ",
"I hope this is /s",
"Everything Trump touches turns to gold!",
"I love how the left are the ones who were mocked for falsely claiming to have PTSD and yet they think they can turn it around. We're not the ones turning victim status into currency.",
"He's not trolling, he's just dumb.",
"> It only takes one dipshit to ~~make a scene, and a~~ *break your* projector",
"I’m a Trump supporter and I don’t hate you for obviously not being a supporter of Trump. I don’t even know you. I think part of the problem is people just lump each other in groups and judge them based off that.\n\n\nAlso I think it’s ironic that your name is “istandagainstyou” with the comment you made.",
"You do realize that when people talk about Trump controlling the media narrative, this is exactly what they mean.",
">Plenty of ~~very wealthy~~ people will always vote red simply because they hope to keep more of their money.",
">Isn't it ironic\n\nFTFY\n\n",
"Well since SAN Fran is perfect in every way, rent is reasonable and they have no homeless people they are right to mock him. ",
"But it's not really hypocritical. Trump is Trump. His surname is Trump. It's been Trump since the 1600s - not Drumpf. Jon Stewart's birth name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz which he changed.* One's a real name which was spelled different 400 years ago, the other's a recently-adopted name.\n\n*Originally said \"Jon Stewart\" was a stage name. ",
"\n>thst doesn't mean the people are shit, just their goverment\n\nHe was specifically claiming that immigrants from those countries are undesirable, so yes he was saying the people are shit.",
"I should project a looping gif of TrigglyPuff or the TYT on election night.... with my new tax windfall savings.",
"There was a time that would go without saying.",
"Well 48% but you only overestimated it by *double*. Which is kind of an enormous amount to be wrong by in terms of percentages.\n\nNote that's also disproportionately low compared to the US as a whole.\n\nedit responding to your edit: No, it's still 48% white, per the [correct stats](http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty.htm) I and several others have linked. In the incorrect stats you linked below, you're misreading the \"entire US\" column as the SF column. It's 77% in the whole US, not in SF - and that also counts hispanic whites, btw.\n\nedit 2: Everyone note that this guy was wrong twice and didn't ever acknowledge it, even though it was pointed out by many people.",
">San Francisco is like 93% white\n\nHave you been??",
"As if it already hasn't been. ",
"Really so the KKK only lives in the south now?\n\nSo like the Baltimore leader of the KKK just a coincidence right?\nwww.baltimoresun.com%2Fnews%2Fmaryland%2Fcrime%2Fbs-md-preston-bail-20171013-story.html&usg=AOvVaw1xvvEu8oHaaw_ux_b9qxAQ\n\nOr the California KKK leader?\nhttp://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-klan-leader-arrest-20161206-story.html\n\nWe could keep going... But I think it is becoming obvious.\n\nThe KKK is all across this country, it is not located solely in the South. Furthermore, you've had your head in the sand if you don't think that the left hasn't been hating on the people in those states: I mean your own comment points it out (You're thinking: \"These are where the KKK lives...\").\n\nSo once again, you proved your point. Thank you for showing that you think that people that live in teh south are only where the KKK live and must be the shitty people. Since you have judged the entire area, you must judge those people to be shitty I mean we are using your logic from above. Thank you for making it ABUNDANTLY clear that you are on the same page as the KKK in that you are judging an entire people (The South).\n\nLet me reword my statement above: It is so great to see that you are on the same level as racists when it comes to hating certain groups of people- despite their being no basis for it. Congratulations.",
"https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocitycalifornia,US/PST045216\n\n76.9%",
"Yes",
"Did you see all the furious circlejerking on the front page about Don Lemon's opening speech on CNN?\n\n*\"holy shit he just flat out called blumpfle a RACIST! nobody has ever called trump a racist before, he's FINISHED\"*",
"he literally said that lol",
"Actually DC and Maryland are the wealthiest. \n\nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income",
"76.9%\n\nhttps://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocitycalifornia,US/PST045216",
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States\n\nFiscal year|Total debt|Total debt as % of GDP\n-|-|-\n2007|8,993|62.8%|5,050\n2008|10,011|67.9%|5,800\n2009|11,898|82.5%|7,550\n2010|13,551|91.6%|9,000\n2011|14,781|96.1%|10,150\n2012|16,059|100.2%|11,250\n2013|16,732|101.3%|12,000\n2014|17,810|103.4%|12,800\n2015|18,138|101.3/101.8%|13,100\n2016 (Oct. '15 – Jul. '16 only)|~19,428|~106.1%|~13,998\n\n\n",
"https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/sanfranciscocitycalifornia,US/PST045216",
"Chinese New Year?",
"I really hope you're kidding 😂",
"Dude, you assume there are bystanders hanging around at all times in these places. They might have gone in and out in a short period of time before too many people noticed. Bystanders are made up of the general public, going about their day, these people won't just fly into a blind rage and start attacking the van. Not to mention the fact that in San Francisco probably 90% of random bystanders would agree with the message!",
"Using projectors as graffiti is a really good idea I never though of, I could put any message on a public building with a well hidden projector! Best thing is they can’t scrape it off or paint over it! \nThis had changed the way I am gonna protest stuff forever",
"here... you dropped this \"/s\" (I hope)",
"Despite the constant negative? ",
"> America shouldn't be taking in any poor immigrants. That in no way benefits us.\n\n> America shouldn't be taking in any poor immigrants. That in no way benefits us.\n\n\"J. Robert Oppenheimer was born in New York City on April 22, 1904, to Julius Oppenheimer, a wealthy Jewish textile importer who had immigrated to the United States from Germany in 1888, and Ella Friedman, a painter. Julius came to America with no money, no baccalaureate studies, and no knowledge of the English language. He got a job in a textile company and within a decade was an executive with the company.\" \n\nSo yeah, the lead of the Manhattan Project only ends up in the US if we allow his penniless father to immigrate. But tell me again how immigrants can't contribute to being a super power (even if defined solely militarily)\n\n",
"*chnats",
"Mm yes, the city proclaimed \"let this man be free\" and he was set free.",
"Maybe you didn't realize that those are US Citizens, and Puerto Rico is a U.S. territory. Puerto Rico also pays US Federal taxes.\n\nBecause if you didn't realize that, then what you said could make sense.",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"Got an up vote from me. ",
"Preferably",
"I bet if we looked into this story reality is very different from how you paint it sir. ",
"It's not like it's a niche sub or something... It's one of the main ones, so... Reddit is corny af*?",
"Yeah that's why property values are higher than anywhere in the country. Cause nobody wants to live there. That's how supply and demand works right? Less demand means the price goes up?",
"If you hate the President so much why did you vote for him.",
"lol wut",
"sǝ⅄",
"Jeez bro, Who put the corn up your shithole? ",
"In Russia...",
"Wow, we'll see... I like your style and description a lot, but imagine you underestimate momentum and so many placaters vs. justice/reality. But who am I? Best.",
"Awwwww did someone not get their way in an election and are now throwing tantrums??? That’s how a Democratic Republic works....one side wins while the other side loses. Get over it babies!!! Hahahahaha",
"Has any of you been to one of these shithole countries for holiday? I presume you have not. Why would that be? Right, because they are shithole countries.",
"Also true!",
"Ya, shoot yourself in the foot again because you're triggered by someone calling you a shithole.",
"and gay?",
"holy shit a star wars reference. ",
"Now, can you imagine why, perhaps, he would want an immigrant from the Netherlands, and not from Haiti?\n\nPerhaps a reason unrelated to race?\n\nAny reason at all?",
"It's okay for Trump to say it. It's why he was elected. He has a habit a bluntly stating unpopular truths.\n\nBTW, it's not like he said this in front of a mic. He allegedly said it in a close door meeting and then democrats leaked/accused because they were sullen about being forced into the live bipartisan meeting (Trump would have had empty chairs with their name on it in the meeting otherwise).\n\nToo bad for them that no one outside the outrage machine cares or disagrees.",
"Hey a comment finally about the picture and not about the Presid.....never mind",
"That's funny given what happened in San Francisco.",
"Such sass! Who'dve thought sf had such character!",
"*cough* the more superior Korea *ahem*",
"Take a shithole president to know about shitholes",
"You left out the part where it was a freak accident involving him shooting the pavement and the bullet ricocheting nearly a hundred feet before striking the girl. \n \nAnd the man did serve jail time. ",
"Dear America,\nSouthpark is a cartoon set in a fictional town full of foul-mouthed children it is not to be confused with real life nor should it. Entertainment is something one does to escape not something one aspires to become. You all elected the (cough) president that you did so now you are just going to have to live with him until he's impeached, serves 2 terms, resigns, gets lynched, or out spent in the next election. To sink to the level of Southpark is to become something undeserving of a nation with such dedication to liberty, decency and democracy. Do not sink to the level of those that would see your country fall into complete disarray. \nsigned,\nConcerned Citizen to the North",
"80% of taxes goes towards illegal immigrants? Riiiiiiigggghhht",
"I am 14 and this is edgy as fuck. ",
"Fire up the projector, we have virtue to signal!",
"Who cares? Can't y'all talk about something else for once?\n\nTrump could cure cancer tomorrow morning and CNN would run a segment on unemployed oncologists. ",
"And who do you think works in our economy that supports our military. Not only that, but last time I checked, our military has the children of 1st generation migrants that help staff our military. \n\nYou are so painfully fucking stupid and racist. Fuck off back to pol or stormfront cunt.",
"Triggered Trumpsters in 3... 2... 1...",
"Is it a brigade if it's just people with different viewpoints who see a subject they're interested in participating?",
"Sounds rad. Where do I sign up?",
"I hate this website sometimes ",
"Imma blame Trump because it was a shitty deal in the first place. Getting that temporary money is like department stores pushing credit card apps to save you 20% on today's purchase, banking on collecting interest in the long run. My family actually IS going to benefit from the it, because apparently we are upper class in my state, but it's going to suck even more for those who aren't as fortunate. ",
"Lindsey Graham also heard it, is he a liberal?",
"Since the collapse of the Communist bloc, terminology like ‘first world’ no longer has meaning",
"Yeah let's just start it later",
"Yeah yeah we know that's America but what about the 3rd world countries? ",
"Lol brilliant ",
"You got whoooshed",
"Ah, the city where they allow their homeless population to just shit all over the sidewalks.\n\nNever have the words shithole matched so well.",
"Yep. That's about right for California. Just go ahead an break off from the US already. I don't support Trump and even I don't pout this much.",
"How is it brave? We dont live in a fascist nation where people are taken from their beds and are never seen again.",
"Ah yes, nothing screams intentional murder like shooting the concrete ground and ricocheting the bullet a vast distance. And how'd you know, murder isn't a crime in SF at all. \n \n[Meanwhile in Tennessee, a man can shoot his wife and himself in an accidental shooting and not only not serve jail time, but keep his right to fucking have guns.](https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2017/11/17/man-who-wounded-wife-self-accidental-east-tenn-church-shooting-keep-gun-permit/874412001/). ",
"I just feel bad because the partisanship is going to get so much worse than this. I hope everyone calms down before things actually get violent.\n\nIf a federal building gets away with insulting the President we are going to be screwed in the future. ",
"Yep, that's straw. Meanwhile, downvoted for pointing out Trump is a product of immigration... A fact.",
"San Franshithole indeed.",
"And almost cans of soup, if those fools hadn't stopped me!",
"Uhhh...r/The_Donald would be the obvious answer",
"It's more like you, and those being obsessed with this, are easily distracted by shiny things, meanwhile Trump's agenda unrolls at a steady pace. It's a well documented effect. There was even an op-ed on the subject in the NYT recently.",
"Here, have some:\n\nhttps://i.redd.it/lqnoz8sgbt0z.jpg",
"I can imagine Trump not being a bigot, sure. But it’s just that, *imagination*.",
"Neither. Honest. SF is a shithole and so is every other major city in California. Glad I moved out of the state and happy that I'll never go back. The vast majority of their laws are a fucking joke, their taxes the same, traffic is a nightmare (as is the cost of living) in most places, and most people are straight up assholes. They taught me well. Want to think I'm ignorant because of my opinion that is fact based? Well, fuck you too. ✌",
"Well 1. We could cut government spending thus to lower the taxes needed. 2. I hear you, but you're projecting the idea that you know the end state and it's guaranteed. He could also pass another bill increasing taxes on large businesses, or he could fuck the middle class, but st the moment he isn't fucking the middle class, so why complain about it when we currently are getting a break? Would you have enjoyed keeping your taxes where they are indefinitely, and never had a break? \n \nWhy is it so inconceivable that we could lower spending / cut programs / downsize the federal government programs that we just would need the same taxes we have for the past 8 years? \n \nIf Obama care truly goes away, that's a huge chuck right there, if we start slashing other budgets we might get another tax break.",
"I'd love to see the citation for that 80% figure. ",
"Exactly.",
"I remember seeing a newspaper article from the 60s-70s, in which he was being taken to court over a federal investigation regarding his string of apartments in NYC and their refusal to house any black tenants. \n\nHe would rather house a poor white person than a wealthy black person. Literally, he told his managers to [\"take their applications, put them in a drawer and leave it there.\"](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html)",
"And to ignore the greater implications is plain ignorant. A word is \"just a word\" until placed with the right context. And you're right, his statements weren't racist they were simply xenophobic. ",
"It'd be awesome if both parties get taken down by Mueller. Literally leaving the US leaderless as everyone would be in jail or forced to resign. \n\nSure, it'd leave the US in shambles, but it would be a real purge of the corrupted career politicians. ",
"Man just shut the hell up, logout, destroy your computer and go get an education so you can contribute to your shithole country and stop being a parasite. ",
"Found the Aussie. ",
"Maybe that's why it's a shithole?",
"For fucks sake, you people are delusional. ",
"Must’ve been from 2015!",
"Woo, back to Hillary. Alright, I'll bite your precanned outrage and rehearsed talking points.\n\nOn the first count, we are in a war with Russia. It's not a military war, it's a war of influence and espionage, but it's undeniably happening and especially someone with political experience and classified clearances would be aware of the details.\n\n\nSecond, Hillary Clinton did not have military command on the ground in Benghazi. The military response came down to whoever was in charge, not her. \n\nThe thing about Trump is that a precocious teenager could kick his ass in tic tac toe, and this is the guy in charge of the country's military. If any sort of actual military situation happens that defers to Trump's ability to make good decisions under pressure, we're all doomed.",
"\"Come gather round the TV....and hear this white dude say every racist slur in the book\"\n\nThe absolute state of CNN",
"Ironic because San Francisco is a shithole",
"The USA is comprised almost totally of immigrants and families of immigrants. The shithole country does not determine whether or not the individual immigrant will be shitty or not. So yes, it is unwise and very unamerican to reject immigrants from impoverished and suffering countries ",
"You really think the media causes people to get upset over a comment like that that? That no one would have cared about hearing that statement if the media didn’t somehow convince people it was outrageous? It doesn’t take any convincing. It’s simply outrageous in itself and it’s unacceptable and unfitting of the president of the USA. ",
"I think Happy Shithole works too though.",
"your point?",
"It factually is. If California was it's own country it would have the world's 7th strongest economy. I don't think any other state even comes close.\n\nEDIT: It has the 7th strongest, not 8th. It beats out France and just barely comes behind India.",
"I think your understanding about property values stops at \"demand\".\n\n>But there's also a supply side to the issue that needs to be considered: Maybe there isn't enough housing in the city to go around.\n\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/why-housing-is-so-expensive-in-san-francisco-2014-4",
"Found the guy who has never been to San Francisco.",
"Or a street.",
"I just want to go half a month without someone judging me for voting for Trump. But alas this is Reddit and “if you don’t agree with my politics you must be a horrible person...also fuck you”",
"I’m so tired of all this political talk",
"SF is the middle column, not the right column.",
"I don’t want trump impeached. It is because trump is an incoherent baffoon that he hasn’t really done much yet. Pence is a real politician and knows joe to get shit passed. That’s when it would be really bad. ",
"Shithole is why Dirty Donald is dirty. ",
"Worst reality show ever.",
"Omg, calm yourself, captain semantics. ",
"Decided in the landmark supreme court case Rubber v Glue",
"I was hoping we'd be able to cuss publicly because of someone making it cool, not someone making it laughable.\n\nThere goes my pubescent dreams.",
"Too slow",
"Those are called bath houses",
"South Africa, from his post history.",
"It's ironic because they are judging the president's assessment of the third world as false or unfair whilst importing all its problems and dooming it to the same status if nothing changes. Considering the level of denial in Cali that sounds a bit like [dramatic irony](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/dramatic-irony).\n\n",
"He was pointing out that Jon Stewart changed his name, not how his family changed it generations ago",
"u wot m8",
"And please tell me what this is meant to show? It doesn't have race data for SF. [This does](http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty.htm) though. 48% in 2010 census.",
"Gotta say even not supporting trump. This is all hype no heart. Impeach impeach impeach. Flynn flips this and that. Nah, nothing of substance here. like the guy said. Until actual news breaks. Everyones just gonna have to hold their breath. But I hope you people are right anyway.",
"So, no, you can't. That's on you, mate.",
"Found the Trump supporter.",
"What's a sanctuary city?",
"Would be amazing if this happened in Austin.",
"Amazing display of political activism!\n\n*sarcasm*",
"I don't think you'd win that argument",
"Oh geez 🙄 I'm sure the people that truly have suffered at the hands of tyrants and dictators appreicate you comparing your trips to Starbucks to their trips to UNICEF lines. ",
"The only \"source\" that he did it was an anonymous one. I'll wait till it's confirmed until I freak out.",
"I have definitely called countries shitholes before ",
"Dernal turnip's campaign is finished.",
"Happy Shitholio to you and yours. ",
"Maybe it has to do with economic stability? Nah, that can't be it can it? Don't bother with knowing El Salvador is the murder capital of the world, he just hates them cause they're brown!",
"Name of that bit?",
"That’s how things works in Brazil. Another shithole. (I am from that shithole and kind of joking 😰)",
"That's literally impossible, since the admins placed some restrictions on them. They would be unable to link here.\n\nIf I'm wrong and they actually *can* link here, then why don't you show me the T_D thread where they're doing so?",
"Except he never said that. What he said is that he \"said his peace\" to President Trump about \"something negative he uttered\". Graham never confirmed heard the president say \"Shithole Countries\". \"Something negative\" can be just about anything.\n\nSo please, keep straight up lying. It really doesn't matter. Intelligent people know to do their own research instead of just regurgitating the bullshit that others attempt to brainwash them with.",
"Why would you care? It's a shithole country.",
"It's not funny because it's true; this time. goddamn.",
"Bold statement in a red to the bone city of San Francisco",
"The goal was to undermine her presidency and make her seem illegitimate. It was wasted effort, since she'll never be president, but in return... they got to be president.",
"Yeah, with fixed supply and high demand, prices go up. With the opposite, prices go down. If it's a place nobody wants to live in, then that means prices are going down right?\n\nPlease tell me you're a realtor in SF, I'd like to buy your entire catalog.",
"恭喜発糞穴！",
"Ootp here, what happen?",
"Majority didnt",
"bad troll is bad",
"Uh, no? How is acknowledging a shitty country for what it is being against immigration? You people claim you want america to stop being world police but then want us to take every fucking person who has a sob story.",
"The origin of the term is referring to a nation that was not affiliated with either the US or the USSR during the Cold War.\n\nRead a history book, for fuck's sake.",
"Everyone needs to remember this for when it comes up in The big fat quiz of the year ",
"> pretty sure president trump didnt say it, even though he did it’s probably true.\n\n[P]pretty sure [P]resident [T]trump didn[‘]t say it [.], [E]even [if]though he did [,] it’s probably true.\n\nI see you are obviously a member of the alt-write!",
"He LITERALLY asked why people are coming from Haiti, said we need to \"get them out of here\", and asked why we aren't getting more people from Norway instead.\n\nThis isn't an opinion piece or anything, multiple people in the room with him at the time confirmed that he said it, including his advisors. ",
"Yep, no minorities in Californian jails for murder. Yep, not one. ",
"Vote.",
"Reddit has turned into nothing but an anti-Trump circle-jerk. It's pathetic. \n\n**I'm still winning even with all the hate mail I'm getting. Top KEK, MAGA!**",
"What's Starbucks?\n\nPS: UNICEF is a UN operation - they are openly lambasting your pres right now. Good reference.",
"That's not how brigades work\n\nYou can't even post Reddit links there",
"this makes no sense. EVeryone knows they love shit holes in san fran",
"I did my dude, I did, have in every election since I became of voting age ",
"Oh the irony",
"http://truthstrength.com\n\nSecond time I bump into this host in the comments, how's that ad money coming up? \n\n",
"Why would Trump get impeached?",
"It’s really confusing to me that Trump thinks he’s well received and is doing a good job when almost EVERYTHING I’ve seen about him is very negative. ",
"Funny, when I went to San Francisco, the place actually smelled like shit. I'm pretty sure there was human feces on the sidewalks to. How's that homeless problem there?",
"How wdgy",
"This is San Franciscoan, this will surely get them in trouble",
"Albert Einstein.",
"I didn't say follow your heart, I said if a person is worth a shit then they won't give a fuck who your political affiliation is. ",
"How are you going to be dressed for Shitholoween?",
"You sure got him",
"Politics brings out the worst in people, regardless of party lines.",
"Trump could not cure cancer lmfao ",
"Oh for fucks sake.",
"And Obama was notoriously soft on Muslim terrorists... ",
"OP is raging",
"So brave",
"Chinese new year",
"Obama administration sold guns to the cartel. Operation fast And furious",
"Race and ethnicity. As of the 2010 census, the ethnic makeup and population of San Francisco included: 390,387 Whites (48.1%), 267,915 Asians (33.3%), 48,870 African Americans (6.1%), 4,024 Native Americans (0.5%), 3,359 Pacific Islanders (0.4%), 53,021 from other races (6.6%), and 37,659 from two or more races (4.7%)",
">San Francisco is like 93% white \n \nIn 1940, maybe. SF is 42% non hispanic white, 48.5% white including hispanics, it's one of the least white cities in the country. You're just making random ass shit up. ",
"Isn't it? ",
"They would be murdered if he was actually a fascist.",
"Laser Diode projector is my guess, excellent brightness and long distance capable. ",
"And i have called him drumpf before. So it's alright",
"LOL",
"See your argument falls apart because there is nothing about people from El Salvador that makes them more inclined to murder. They just come from an extremely impoverished country, which is a demonstrated correlate to violence and crime. So saying that we dont want “these people” because they come from a violent country or an economically unstable country is just dumb, because the individuals have nothing to do with the economic instability...",
"No he didn’t. Russia has been digging dirt on every Presidential candidate since WWII ended. At most he paid Russia to release dirt on Clinton and not release dirt on him. But the dirt was there already and Putin had it long before Trump was even the nominee.",
"Are you saying minorities commit more murders despite being less of the population in California? That's very racist of you ",
"Yep random people insulting you on the internet causes you to vote for senile con-men. That's the kind of next level decision making that we expect of Trump supporters.",
"Yeah because sane people want the 6th largest economy in the world to leave the US. Really thought that through.",
"This is good",
"/r/thesefuckingaccounts\n",
"Uh...that doesn't mean they're the wealthiest.\n\nIf you have an economy worth $100B, but have debts totaling $200B, you're $100B in debt. That's not wealthy.\n\nObviously not exact numbers, but you get the point. If you're going to talk about california's wealth, you need to include their crippling debt.",
"Even then why wasn’t he at least convicted of man slaughter?\n\nHe shouldn’t even be here. He has had several felony convictions in the past and he’s been deported several times before. What’s the benefit of keeping people like him around? Why shouldn’t he go back to his own country?",
"What a shithole.",
"Wow so brave that'll show him. ",
"But was there even proof he said that?\nI'm not pro-Trump at all but I heard there wasn't.",
"Just for the gullible and naive, how is this pulled off? ",
"He actually said he was open to more Asian immigration too, but only mentioning Norway, makes for a better race baiting narrative.",
"Cali uses its own aid program and uses federal taxes to subsidize it. That's why the left were bitching about the tax reforms when that was happening. You pay the ridiculous state taxes and then write them off on the federal but no longer it seems.",
"Yeah because of their behavior. But nooooo it HAS to have something to do with their skincolor, right?",
"Lmfao that 76.9% number is in the \"United States\" Column. Meaning the United States as a whole is 76.9% white, not San Francisco. \n \nHere are the actual numbers: http://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty.htm \n \nSF is 42% non hispanic white. You obviously know little to nothing about the city if you thought it was 91% white. ",
" shi-thole/ˈʃɪˌθəʊl/ verb. endure without complaint or resistance towards death and corpses",
"I guess we are conveniently forgetting Puerto Rico where he handed out goods. Granted a few minutes later he started shooting goods to people like he was steph curry, but that’s besides the point. ",
"That's great if *you* think they are shitholes, but the President is held to a different standard than some random dude on his keyboard on the internet.\n\nWhat's more concerning than calling them shitholes is that he regarded people from Norway and other Scandinavian nations as more valuable to the U.S. than people from Haiti, El Salvador, and Africa. The President is meant to be a representative of the United States, and the backbone of the United States is the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. \n\nI don't recall the Declaration of Independence reading that some people are more valuable than others. In fact, I think the line is \"all men are created equal.\"",
"Most places around the world are fucking shitholes, Africa unfortunately has a lot. Trump just stating the obvious. ",
"Calm the fuck down",
"Isn't the deficit the rate at which you are paying out rather then the overall debt?",
"\"Grandson, son and husband of immigrants hates illegal immigrants. Clearly a very stable genius.\"\n\nFTFY",
"I never said that Haitian was a race? Nobody is diluting the severity of racism, because this shit is actually racist. Why are you yelling?",
"This made you feel judged? ",
"President is immature based on claims that may or may not be true! So lets draw vaginas on sidewalks and vandalize places to make \"fascism\" stop! Don't forget to beat people up you don't like!",
"The [Oxford Comma](https://imgur.com/Vwcc7b6) syntax is valid English, though can lead to confusion. \n\nProper parsing of the language involves context. Usually, the \"and\" and the end of the list is a key indicator.",
"With everyone hating their own president I wouldn't be suprised.",
"Shithole sub... Unsubbed for all the recent horseshit political posts that somehow manage to make front page every day. ",
"Fighting darkness with light.\n\nIt's almost poetic...",
"The purpose of the reference isn't to show who politically aligns you ass. It's to point out that most people on Reddit, the vast majority, live a comfortable life. They like to act like life is so hard in the western states and compare it to a tyranny, which is awful towards the people that face true everyday struggles. ",
"Because there is no need for unskilled immigration. The adult (15+) literacy rates for 2015 [was 49% for Haiti and 92% for the Netherlands](http://hdr.undp.org/en/data). The reform of immigration policies towards a skill oriented and point-based system such as the one which is found in Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom is fair, objective and has nothing to do with race.",
"Soy boys distracted we win you lose.",
"I feel like evey president says things like this but only Trump gets his comments as headlines in the news. ",
"Played well sis, play welled",
"Wtf is wrong with you",
"Put down the pipe. Come back to reality.",
"Why?\n\nOh, are you a millionare? Or do you own fast food franchises in close proximity to the white house?",
"Bristol, UK missed the memo",
"April 1st is basically Japanese new year. We can use that. ",
"The key to discerning Trump supporters from Trump criticizers is that one makes comments supporting Trump, while the other makes comments criticizing Trump. I hope this, along with the reading comprehension required to tell the two apart, helps.",
"There's actually an app for that",
"Chances are both are true.",
"The greatest decision I've ever made, was to leave California",
"Thanks for completely missing the point of my post. ",
"Same exact feelings. It's gotten to a point where I avoid hearing the news as much as possible, and even when I do hear about another awful thing that's just happened, I feel apathetic. I've always voted and I always will, and I know that apathy will only make things worse, but I feel powerless to do anything. ",
"The general accepted use of the term isn't just derived from its original term. Jesus you liberals are fucking spiteful people. I hope you can enjoy the rest of Trumps term, and his reelection ;)",
"Fuck their struggles they shouldn't have been born in shitholes \n\nAm I doing this right? ",
"I’ve never seen a brigade in action before. It would be a lot more amusing if it wasn’t a perfect snapshot of our current political climate.",
"In the UK one of the unions did this to the [Conservative Party headquarters](http://falseeconomy.org.uk/uploads/pcs-2a.jpg) and to [Parliament itself](http://falseeconomy.org.uk/img/pcs-1.jpg).",
"right...but that's not the formatting they used....so...?\n>The only conceivable way it would happen is if 1) Mueller brings substantive charges against the President himself, 2) Trump presents a significant danger to Republican incumbent re-election, AND possibly 3) if and only if leadership is OK having Pence as president (possibly).",
"http://www.lao.ca.gov/LAOEconTax/Article/Detail/90",
"Yet you wanted to vote for Clinton, who along with her husband, took millions of dollars out of aid to Haiti for the 2010 earthquake to fund their daughter Chelsea's wedding. They turned Haiti into the shithole it is.\n\nBut nobody said anything about that.",
"Fuckin' Tenderloin.",
"!redditsilver\n\nWould give gold, but am poor. \nHilarious comment, made my day. ",
"Trump is an insane narcissist, with very little attachment to reality. So it shouldn't be too surprising that his version of reality has him sitting as the undisputed king of everything and loved by everyone except \"fake news\". \n",
"Absolutely correct. If you look it up he is the fourth president to use the term \"Shithole\" in office. I believe Hamilton started it. ",
"What word in there do you think he just learned?",
" Aw wax",
"THIS",
"The spacing between the letters. As a graphic designer I am very happy with it too\n\nEdit: Reddit once again cannot sense sarcasm...",
"Their behavior? What does that even mean? That people from Finland are well behaved, and people from Haiti aren’t? Isn’t that just as prejudicial?",
"That’ll stop him!",
"They can't read. ",
"Yet, at the same time, the world itself is less of a shithole these days. We only have ourselves to thank. Funny how everyone feeds on politics. \n\n",
"Yeah and you know... I seem to remember Bush doing a whole lot of photo-ops at bullshit events during Katrina. Why does he have the picture suggesting he was out saving lives or some crap",
"Think Trump’s bad? Pence would have the whole LGBT community wearing patches to identify ‘em and mandatory bible studies. ",
"plz assume the /s is necessary. I can't keep reading shit like that and worrying about it, especially because most of the time it's not /s",
"What?",
"Lmao calling California a shithole is comedy. Thank you for fucking off elsewhere buddy",
"I'm not your m8, shithole.",
"Logic and reasoning is anti-Trump.",
"Even you subtract California's debt from it's GDP it STILL beats out all the competition. So your point is moot. Even though your argument is flawed to begin with, since by your logic I guess the US isn't the world's wealthiest nation either? Oh wait, it is... huh.\n\nAnyway, don't pretend you understand economics. National (or in this case, state) debt is a completely different kettle of fish from personal debt.",
"If you don't want to be judged for doing incomprehensibly stupid things, a good start would be to not do incomprehensibly stupid things.\n\n",
"It's like you want to lose more elections.",
"Wait, are you joking? Obama spent most of his term drone striking the middle east to hell. How was he soft? I think you need a /s",
"I just don’t get it. It’s crazy. And I got bored just now and was reading Tomi Lahren’s Twitter feed. It kinda boggles my mind that people like them are out in the world right now doing their weird everyone hates me so they’re all stupid thing.",
"San Francisco is a Shithole Hill. ",
"Y'all better turn back now. Nothing but salt here. ",
"This. Anybody that believes that these countries aren't shitholes, go to Haiti or some 3rd world cess pit in the Congo and try to survive for a year. ",
"I'm annoyed that they didn't change the bottom.",
"Woosh",
"Hey hey hey! That's not true. I hugged a sad person during Puerto Rico. Also I am on call for the next disaster. ",
"Right, because Trump's words are not supposed to be criticised?",
"He dun did drunk da koolaid",
"Im out of the loop someon2 help",
"https://pics.me.me/hillary-card-deflect-bad-news-away-from-trump-switch-to-28681970.png",
"The testimony of a senator is evidence. ",
"Huh, I guess English isn't your first language if you think \"freak accident\" and \"murder\" mean the same thing.",
"They acquitted him of manslaughter. Firing a gun in a fucking public area is gross negligence and he absolutely should have been found guilty of manslaughter at least.",
"Deficit is \"an excess of expenditure or liabilities over income or assets in a given period\". Essentially, spending way more than needed or what you have, but the two are often seen hand in hand, Diseasedpidgeon. ",
"When they start putting out the Christmas stuff in stores",
"The Year of the Shithole",
">Even then why wasn’t he at least convicted of man slaughter?\n \n[Because accidental shootings aren't automatically enough for manslaughter,](https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2017/11/17/man-who-wounded-wife-self-accidental-east-tenn-church-shooting-keep-gun-permit/874412001/) and the prosecution couldn't prove that accidentally firing a gun pointed at the ground was enough to meet the legal bar for manslaughter\n \n \n>He shouldn’t even be here. \n \n100% irrelevant to the case. Committing one crime, such as a misdemeanor immigration violation, has zero bearing on your guilt for a different crime. \n \n>. He has had several felony convictions in the past and he’s been deported several times before. What’s the benefit of keeping people like him around?\n \nBy the sound of it he HAS been kicked out numerous times. But I'll tell you something, I 100% agree I don't want felons like him in my country. He should be kicked the fuck out. \n \nBut the thing is, sanctuary cities will and do turn felonious illegal immigrants over to federal authorities. The only thing they do that's different is they don't waste their money and resources helping the federal government pursue people who break misdemeanor level immigration laws. ",
"They also forgot the words creepy and sexual predator ",
"> We want a president that will hug a sad ~~person~~ **~~american~~** **dog** when ~~cameras are around~~ pupper is sad",
"That’s right. Let’s send the immigrants back to their country which don’t have shithole presidents!\n\nWait...",
"I'm sure Germany will let you move there if you are brown and Muslim enough.",
"There's a difference between being republican and voting Trump. I disagree with republicans on most policy issues. but Trump is dangerous, offensive, and unqualified.",
"You \n\n>Economy is a reflection of the people and the businesses ran the people. If they are challenged to be developed, it's the people's fault. \n\n\nAlso you\n\n\n>They like to act like life is so hard in the western states and compare it to a tyranny, which is awful towards the people that face true everyday struggles. \n\n\nConfused?",
"I think the Sargent was kidding",
"A Trump supporter calling someone spiteful. Holy shit, talk about the pot calling the kettle black.",
"I think it is about economic stability but the guy above made a poor argument with the murder capital thing. \n\nImmigrants from there may not be beneficial economically because they come from a poor, corrupt country (which just so happens to be murder capital because of this). So they’re less likely to be skilled labourers, such as those who move from more developed countries. ",
"You know there's only a handfull of states where voting counts right?",
"Are you trying to get him killed?",
"So you're saying that no matter who a person supports, we have to accept it or be unamerican, gutless pieces of shit?\n\nYou sound like those cunts who apologize for neo-nazis. But our president's doing it too, I suppose.\n\nCount me in the \"worthless shits\" camp, then, because fuck allowing those people to operate unchallenged.",
"Any day now. That Mueller is going to...... Well.... it'll be big....",
"Holy shit, this genius figured it out. ",
"Or, now bear with me, gangs are rampant and these shithole countries thrive off of ILLEGAL DRUGS coming here? The world isnt a utopia. Fix the foreign governments instead of cleaning up their mess. There are poorer countries that are less violent. El Salvador is a shithole. The only ones making it about race are white liberals.",
"Truth hurts",
"Oh shit really? Source?",
"Depends on how strict your standards of proof are. There have been eyewitnesses who have verified it. Republican senator eyewitnesses. ",
"\"Why do we need more ~~people~~ presidents from shithole ~~countries~~ political parties?\" - Donald Trump, talking about ~~african and haitian immigrants~~ himself. ",
"only sometimes",
"Equally offensive ",
"Exactly. And no.",
"Que the Turbonegro song",
"For bitcoin",
"I love this country, I'm a patriot, just don't like how angry people are these days, were all Americans, and by that virtue alone we should respect each other ",
"they charged his left and right hand man that ran his campaign, how you don't see that as a big fucking deal is beyond me...",
"I know right, all this noise over normal everyday stormfront talk.",
"So you use languageism to show your superior? Ok. ",
"My absolute pleasure, shithole dweller.",
"> that doesn't mean the people are shit, just their goverment and sometimes their culture.\n\nWe talking about the u.s?",
"I legitimately don't know what the promoted VP after a President removed from office would look like. \n\nI can't imagine that someone close to a president that's removed would be able to get any sort of major policy done; **all** their actions would be suspect simply by association. And while that person would wield the Executive power, and could do many things, I think that once a Congress has impeached and removed one President, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to do it again. \n\nI think the further down the line of succession you go, the _less_ likely the replacement President would be to be a lame duck, and I don't think we'd see like a series of impeachments unless Mueller reveals some sort of fucking bombshell that just obliterates the DC leadership. But I also don't think it's unreasonable that Pence would be caught into the fallout if Trump is removed from office. \n\nAll of the above predicated heavily on \"if\" and so on. I seriously doubt we'd see even the Articles of Impeachment move past the House. But it'll be some find grandstanding, for the next House.",
"The civilized world is anti-trump, where exactly is your safe place where you can't see that?",
"Brave. I'm sure all the people from San Francisco would love to move to all the countries Trump mentioned.",
"And Russia told him \"Okay Trump- I'll tell you how to dig up dirt on HRC. What you do is... you open your eyes for ten seconds.\"",
"provide sources then",
"I am Shitholio, I need TP for my shithole!",
"Meddling with foreign affairs was a pretty basic standard for the US and USSR in the cold war. And neither (+Russia) stopped after the end of it. ",
"We need to take a stand against Trump and move to Haiti. It's not a shithole at all.",
"the 9% are the rich people who can actually afford to live in San Francisco",
"I'm not your shithole, asshole",
"Drumpf resigned",
"Does his office protect him from charges? EG if he got charged with a crime, would they have to impeach him for him to face punishment?",
"Can I pat you? ",
"And then you see your argument crumbles because you're implying that only innocent people come from El Salvador. Not every immigrant is illegal, and not every immigrant is legal. Illegal immigrants off the bat are criminals, it's a federal offense, and typically, if you can't get here legally, it's because you're here to do some illegal shit. \n\nI personally know illegal immigrants, and they're not inherently bad people, they of course just needed to escape their shithole country, however, that doesn't mean much when there's a vast majority of illegals committing violent offenses all over the country.",
"Mr. Yankee, please explain to my small minded southern self what southpark has to do with this? Matt and Trey were expecting Hillary to win and it fucked their whole season up when they were wrong. I liked the analysis of the first Trump episode with the fuck them all to death and the Canadian wall but ever since it's just been an orange version of Mr. Garrison.\n\nAlso, Trump was outspent last election by a mile so why should that matter?",
"Tennessee man wasn't even convicted of a crime at all for doing much worse. Somehow, no one seems even the least bit upset about that, but furious about this other case. \n \nThe man, by all accounts, didn't mean to fire the gun, and was pointing it at the ground. That wasn't enough to meet the legal requirements to find him guilty of manslaughter. ",
"It's hilarious to me that you think anywhere in this dumpster fire he's shown the critical thinking skills to make this defense. ",
"Underrated post. You’re my hero. ",
"Who's saying that?",
"Ohhhhhhhhh as a graphic designer you can't even see it!",
"Precisely.",
"Wouldnt a \"Triggered Trump Snowflake\" be a triggered trump supporter?\n\nU dun fuked up sun.",
"and so beautiful",
"To be fair there's quite a few lesser narcissists / incels that see him as some sort of demigod (which is hilarious - just look at the guy, the way he speaks, or the demented things he says)",
"Now you understand it, you learn something every day.\n\nBut of course everything that is expensive is also desirable and thus better, [definitely not a shithole](http://i.imgur.com/dUepbeV.gif), hence nobody can hate on it. [And everybody wants to move there.](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/06/san-francisco-cost-of-living-pricing-out-tech-companies-workers.html)\n\nBut I have to disappoint you, I am not a realtor in SF.",
"This time they are going to deploy their super weapon! Oprah!!!!!",
"Care to elaborate? Because that was a rhetorical question. It is just as prejudicial.",
"I mean that's the point of the media no?",
"God you are a fucking moron. Don't open your trap if you don't know what you are talking about child.",
"IS WRONG",
"It makes it hard to be a conservative with someone like Trump in office, he's the president, and I respect that, but he's making choices I disagree with, choices that impact me, It worries me, j like some policies and hate others ",
"Has Donald Trump really been the president for a whole year?",
"Impeachment but not removal.",
"Doesn't give a shit about made up nonsense, true. FYI, both his original stat and his edit are wrong. He's reading the wrong column. The real number is 48%.\n\nAlso, kind of ironic that you're talking about other people \"not giving a shit and falling in line\" without verifying anything when, well, it kinda sorta looks like that's exactly what you just did.",
"With shit hole supporters that only voted for him because they think America is a shit hole.\n\n",
"He's a devout and vocal never-trumper so the R next to his name doesn't help your point ",
"How dare you call a nation, where freedom of expression idoesn't exist, a shithole? All African countries are paradise on earth and millions of migrants fleeing them on makeshift boats are tired of living the good life and hence moving to European nations. ",
"If you only watch the main news networks, which only report on the shiny distractions Trump is exceedingly excellent at serving up, then sure, he looks like a total idiot. If you do your own research and notice how much Trump **is getting done** in a very short amount of time, relatively speaking, perhaps you will reconsider your conclusions.",
"Keep telling yourself that.",
"gdd ",
"He watches nothing but FOX News all day, and has surrounded himself with a cabinet of nothing but yes-men. \n\nIt's kind of the same situation that led to the Star Wars prequels. ",
"Not to be confused with Maryland, where an 18 year old illegal immigrant can rape a 14 year old and have the charges dropped.\n\nhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4477914/Rape-charges-dropped-against-two-undocumented-teens.html",
"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE",
"Lmao I live in Utah. Your comments about Cali were just so ridiculously untrue. Enjoy being an old bitter fuck ",
"We would take you back if you vote to secede. Just tell us what's up beforehand and go double agent. We got you.",
"Keep telling yourself that journalists with decades of credibility are all lying about their sources and your Dear Leader is the honest one. ",
"You could replace that word with “more economically developed countries” which is a currently used official term, and his point would still stand. \n\n“Brain drain” is a massive problem for developing countries. As soon as they reduce corruption and spend on education, the folks they educated leave to a “MEDC” since they are now better qualified. This is a huge problem that developing countries themselves acknowledge. ",
"So I guess /r/asaShitholer is the new /r/asaBlackMan ?",
"Nope. The republican policy platform is nowhere close to the political spectrum of the Netherlands, or any normal developed country for that matter. It doesn't make sense to want people in the country who are very likely going to not want your party to have any political power.",
"We call that the Millennial Signal.",
"No one will Remember in a week. ",
"LOL keep jerking it there bro must be sad to live your life pissed off all the time and knowing Trump is living rent free in your head. \n\n> Fuck you if you support him.\n\nNo you can't fuck me, that's sexual harassment you sicko.",
"Again with telling minorities how they should feel I see. Perfectly fine and not racist I assume?",
"Then go live somewhere else. This is the greatest country on Earth.",
"We invited the strippers,\n\n> 1) Mueller brings substantive charges against the President himself, \n\n jfk,\n\n> 2) Trump presents a significant danger to Republican incumbent re-election,\n\nand Stalin.\n\n> AND possibly 3) if and only if leadership is OK having Pence as president (possibly).\n",
"Sorry, but there's literally zero good reasons for us Finns to migrate to a shithole.",
"You should celebrate Chinese lunar new year then",
"To be fair San Fran is a shithole.",
"Maybe, maybe not.\n\nThird world is still a shithole. That's why we call it the third world.",
"No, it's the year of the doggo.\n\nBe kind to doggo this year, and buy some dogecoin.",
"I'm praying on lost hope.",
"Hah, that's the reply I want to give to half the comments in this thread.",
"If people stopped voting because \"There's only a handful of states where voting counts.\" Then voting will count in every state.",
"Been to both. Prefer them to parts of the US. ",
"This response is idiotic, I can be displeased with aspects of this country while loving it, it's called having an opinion you neadreathal ",
"what a time 2 be alive",
"So odd!",
"That doesnt even make sense. ",
"Mr Hanky.",
"Honestly, you don't need critical thinking to imagine an immigrant from Europe can provide more more monetary value, income, and status, than someone from Ethiopia. Call me racist or whatever, but it's true.",
"> Shithole is going to be word of the year\n\nWe can only hope it's just *shithole* and not, for example, *fallout* or *Strangelovian* or *overthrow* or *militia* whatever.\n\nBut what I really would like to see is *impeached* (past tense) and *pilloried* (maybe not literally, though...). ",
"Dude Google it.",
"Top cunt",
"Some people start the year after tax time",
"You could have picked something more realistic. \"Trump could tie his own shoes\" for example.",
"I’m not questioning the media, I’m questioning why he thinks he’s some misunderstood super prez when it’s kinda clear that a lot of people think he’s useless.",
"Tourists know what city they are going to.",
"Unpopular but true. \n\nAlthough I think he would if he didn't have checks and balances on him. The way he admires Duterte and Putin is troubling.",
"Word of 2018: Shithole",
"April 25th?",
"> it's because you're here to do some illegal shit.\n> \n> I personally know illegal immigrants, and they're not inherently bad people,\n\n\"Illegal immigrants come here only to commit crimes... even the ones I know personally, who did not come here to commit crimes.\"",
"We've got an operating deficit in the UK too that has been put in place by previous prime ministers. The way I understand it is; Once it's in place and your country relies on it you can't instantly eliminate. Your 2 options are to either cut back on it or to spend a lot more to improve your infrastructure and economy to rise above the deficit.",
"So anti Trump text only exists in California? TIL...",
"So you're telling me all these African countries arent shit?",
"You don't \"feel\" demographic statistics. They're actually a real thing. And the stats that the other dude said are wrong. Both the first one *and* his edit.\n\nThe real number is 48%.",
"I can totally totally see that. They probably see him as the ‘if I get rich maybe I can bang an unhappy foreign woman’ goal.",
"Saying the president is a shithole is a South-African past-time though :/\n",
"You are gullible. ",
"The edge. My god the edge. I thought that wielding dangerous weapons like this was frowned upon in San Francisco. Well unless you are an illegal alien. Then you can murder people freely. Everyone else though? Edges like this are illegal.",
"They're not wrong. ",
"Or is it the best since it's literally reality?",
"I care because, since he is the POTUS, he represents me, not to mention his decisions have an incredibly direct effect on me.\n\nIf he acts like a piece of shit, I'm going to be upset and call him out. And he has consistently acted like a piece of shit since he started his run for President and I'd love for him to get the boot, or at least lose the next election. So I'm going to do my best to remember every shitty thing he does so if someone asks me in 2020 why I'm voting for almost literally anyone else I'll be able to lay out in great detail why Trump isn't worthy to breathe in that office, let alone run it.",
"Nah. The public is letting mueller decide when drumpf puts his 2 weeks in to avoid jail time.",
"I will! Because it's true, and I like talking about true things.",
"Which is why many of the people living there want to come here, which Trump doesn't want. It's like they aren't deserving of America suddenly, only white people from countries less of a shithole than the U.S. There was no reason other than race that Trump made that comment. It's not like when you immigrate, you bring the shit aspects of the country with you, you leave it behind to escape. I'll give Trump the benefit of the doubt that he realizes that as any adult should. So the only other reason left over is race of the people in those shithole countries. ",
"No president has ever effected my life enough to have any measurable impact on it whatsoever. If your life was a shithole before Trump, a shithole during Trump, it's going to be a shithole after Trump. There is no one to blame but yourself. ",
"Shithole is descriptive of a place, not a person.",
"Get the fuck over it",
"Clearly you missed my point mmmmk. And even if Trump was outspent money still wins elections which is why Matt and Trey 'expected' Hillary to win. ",
"That doesn’t even make sense. LOL!",
"so you needed jfk and stalin to invite the strippers?\n\nno, because the latter two are not dependent on the former\n\nthanks for playing, though",
"> it's a federal offense, and typically, if you can't get here legally, it's because you're here to do some illegal shit. \n\nYou're gonna get downvoted because this site is overwhelmingly liberal and like all online debates, people are downvoting arguments no matter how good if they conflict with their own views. You're right though.\n\nYou know who hates illegal immigrants the most? Legal immigrants. I can know, because I'm one. Thinking that someone just ran across the border whereas some of us had to wait for years for paperwork and be unable for months because you're waiting on a yes or no, is infuriating.",
"I'd like to see reddit defend some guy recklessly discharging an illegally owned firearm and killing a young woman with zero consequences in any other context.",
"Can someone explain what this is all about? I swear everytime I turn around, and your country's president goes and does something ridiculous. ",
"Sis played Well, sis played",
"It's feds.... they know how to frame.",
">The civilized world is anti-trump,\n\nChina and Japan love Trump, South Korea loves SEA loves Trump, Israel loves Trump, India loves Trumps. Poland loves Trump, the Cech Republic loves Trump. I guess you don't consider any of them civilized. How very elitist of you. ",
"Very disrespectful. I'm embarassed to be associated with this by being a Bay Area resident.",
"I’d like to see the truth 😃",
"Courage",
"damn chop up my comment some more, fam",
" - He actually told the truth, yeah, with zero tact, but it was/is still the truth, & people cannot deal with it. Absolute babies.\n\nMakes me appreciate The President more & more each day, ... juts because it pisses off half the populace.",
"> Now, can you imagine why, perhaps, he would want an immigrant from the Netherlands, and not from Haiti?\n> Perhaps a reason unrelated to race?\n\nNice narrative you've got there. Trump didn't say he wants more doctors, engineers or scientists. (e.g. a merit based immigration) He said he doesn't want people from shithole (black) countries. He wants “Norway.” And Norway is not a skill",
"Why was he just “shooting the ground”? Yeah shouldn’t serve for murder. What about manslaughter? What about how he has been deported several times already and has committed multiple crimes? Do these things not typically mean “you don’t get to do this stuff anymore”!",
"Lmao, never wanted to win but also colluded with Russia to win with no evidence. Where are you lads going next?",
"Import the third world, become the third world. Simple as that.\n\nJust look at Europe!",
"Nobody finds your jokes funny but you. ",
"What a circlejerk ",
">The civilized world is anti-trump,\n\nChina and Japan love Trump, South Korea loves SEA loves Trump, Israel loves Trump, India loves Trumps. Poland loves Trump, the Cech Republic loves Trump. I guess you don't consider any of them civilized. How very elitist of you. ",
"Yep, temporarily embarassed incels. \nSome of them, I assume, are good people.",
"You need to get up to date on the news then because multiple people in the room when it happened corroborated it.",
"This thread will be interesting",
"Fuck trump and fuck you too if you support him ",
"He said he didn’t want immigrants from predominantly black “shithole countries,” and wanted more immigrants from Norway.\nAnd yes, he’s ridiculous. A complete embarrassment.",
"This thread is illuminating. I understand why Trump is our president. I believe we deserve this. I only hope climate change erases us and all of this. We don’t deserve everything we have; human being have too much capacity to be selfish fucking assholes. ",
"You're gonna get downvoted for your harsh tone (and because you're not a liberal), but you're right. Whenever one of my friends says most countries in the middle east are war-torn shitholes, he's right. And that's not racist.\n\nIt's just not a very nuanced thing to say as @POTUS.",
"Did a bit of searching in his history, according to this comment he’s South African \n\n*unemployment... I went to university for nothing. South Africa, Electrical Engineering Technician, for who? Eskom? Nah, I have to do leanership after leanership earning less than a Fast food worker.*",
"It's a dick measuring contest between the President and his critics to see who's a bigger douche. ",
"“When they disagree with me yes!!!!”\n\nAlso, funny how this is /r/pics a sub not supposed to be about any one particular viewpoint, but these guys know that they’ve taken it over into another anti trump sub. They never admit it outright, except this “Freudian slip” calling it brigading. \n\nIt wouldn’t be brigading unless this sub is supposed to be an anti trump sub. So they do imagine this sub is “theirs”. ",
"Thanks for continuing to make my point, but being too ignorant to realize it. All you're doing is showing what high demand SF is in, you know, cause nobody wants to live there. That's why it's in such high demand.\n\nAnyway, you're so dedicated to your idiocy that I'm not going to bother anymore. Goodnight.",
"What's your point? They said shithole president not fascist president. You're arguing with nobody, and here I am, like an idiot, allowing your more opportunities to do it. But what ever. ",
"I don't disagree. There's a story somewhere about a village in haiti where every time missionaries tried to help them set up a farm, the fucking people living there salted the farmland.",
"Sanfran is a shithole city. Homeless everywhere, so much feces and filth in the streets that there's a Hepatitis A outbreak.",
"Astounding use of whataboutism right here folks. See, Mr ekaliftp here is having flashes of guilt for what our indefensible President is doing to our country. So instead of trying to defend a senile conman, he chooses to bring up whatever the first Breitbart conspiracy theory jumps into his mind first. Frankly I'm just impressed he managed to avoid claiming that Clinton was running a pedophile sex ring out of a pizza joint. ",
"You don’t think he is capturing people and prosecuting them in secret courts with gag orders? Lol",
"> says increasingly nervous man for the seventieth time.\n\nTrump?",
"Wait a fucking minute. The person that can't use periods, capital letters, and fails to understand a basic grammatical rule is claiming superiority? Okay. Sure. ",
"Take an upvote and fuck off.",
"Presidents used to know when to shut their god damned mouths. ",
"edgy as fuck ",
"As a shithole. We are ALL shitholes on this blessed day!",
"That just says that you are are a shithole and he's your president.",
"Surely this will elevate intelligent and thoughtful discussion on federal immigration law.",
"Is that true? The only thing I ever heard was he shot the girl and I never bothered to look up the facts afterwards. \n\nEdit: it's not exactly true. ",
"Is the president of Mexico visiting San Francisco?",
"The country welcomes immigrants as long as they go through the proper channels. Why is it ok for other countries to have strict immigration policies, but if America tries to reform it's immigration policies its racist?",
"Right, but UNLIKE the UK, the US won't do either of those things. This nation will keep shoveling money into a fire pit and we will never see the end of it. ",
"Wow... how nice of the president to say such a thing. We're truly blessed to have such an honorable and well spoken man in office! \n/s ",
"Drove past the building earlier today and didn't see that. ",
"Go away. You're a pest, and this is the most polite way I could think of to tell you without having to resort to the words I use with my dog. Of course, you'd probably understand those a bit better, so whatever.\n\nShoo. Go on, git.",
"I’m sure they might be. I could only judge on what I see and read and after seeing some incel posts the other day I kinda thought I’m not sure i want to get to know anyone who believes this stuff, even if it is temporary. ",
"By what metrics...",
"Your president is so hilarious that he's single-handedly making comedy redundant.\nWill go down in history as one of the funniest people ever..... and of course a complete cunt",
">Was illegally entering the US six times just a freak accident too? This illegal pos should fry.\n \nNo, but it is 100% irrelevant to any other crimes he may have committed. And we typically don't fry people for jumping the border, which is a misdemeanor. ",
"Didn't someone exhibit a naked painting of him (and presumably lived)",
"Many Lunar New Years are in February ",
"This is stupid. How can a comment end him?",
"I remember seeing a picture from the 80's where Trump got an Ellis award for:\n\n>embodying the spirit of America in their celebration of patriotism, tolerance, brotherhood and diversity. They recognize individuals who have made it their mission to share with those less fortunate their wealth of knowledge, indomitable courage, boundless compassion, unique talents and selfless generosity; all while maintaining the traditions of their ethnic heritage as they uphold the ideals and spirit of America. As always, NECO remains dedicated to the maintenance and restoration of America’s greatest symbol of its immigrant history, Ellis Island.\n\nI'm not saying he ain't racist, but I can pull up several things like these for whichever side you're on.",
"or the city itself ",
"How many people from San Francisco are we letting in?",
"Из России, для Путин.",
"Well he is right. ",
"That's the hope. Disgust people until they disengage and give up.",
"This comment is so brilliantly ironic",
"When did he try to be a nice guy? Not looking for an argument, I'm genuinely curious what you're referring to. ",
"Noone is saying that these countries are not kind of shitty, but it’s quite something when the President of the US says that about a different nation. His words have consequences.\n\nA bit like the US ambassador we recently got here in the Netherlands. He talked shit about my country and got called out for it. Ambassadors and presidents need to watch their words if they value relations.",
"Wasn’t it proved unreliable due to it coming from a freaking second hand source? Lol ",
"The claims are true. Confirmed by Dick Durbin and Lindsay Graham. ",
"You are delusional and living in the fantasy land. Can you please provide sources for him wanting to lose and start a tv station outside of that book as you say you’ve never read it.",
"Lol Trump is such a bad person, just a shit human being\n\nit's so bad that it's funny at this point. goddamn",
"Because every country on the planet is politically homogeneous, right? There are almost certainly individuals in Norway who would share the political values Trump holds.\n\nBut is that what matters? individuals in Norway immigrating to the United States would almost certainly be more educated and a greater contribution to the United States than a poor, destitute individual from Haiti.\n\nObjectively speaking, why does the United States want the one from Haiti? I invite you to explain to me, why, objectively, the United States would be improved for bringing them here?",
"Don't kid yourself, Russia works for Russia.",
"That's probably the worst-case scenario, since his ego will inflate to never-before seen proportions as he proclaims that he's been tried and found innocent of all claims against him.",
"I was born and raised in Utah... and recently moved back after 11 years living in California and elsewhere... California TWICE. Have you ever actually lived in California? If you have and you are saying that what I am saying is untrue, you must be *PRETTY* detached from reality. Go check out California, buy a plastic bag at a grocery store (5 cents at the checkout) and put it to good use.",
"Yeah, still sticking with the old paint on walls method. Nelson Street is pretty awesome (artwork wise).",
"Democrats are the majority in California, but there exists a republican minority. Also Republicans rule a lot of the rural land in California (Eureka/Yreka, central valley mostly)",
"I did hear something about him getting a folder of only good news about himself put on his desk every day. \n\nThat is just hilarious. ",
"even though the other 91% were residents by definition. If polling places work like how I imagine them",
"There is a lot of hate going around for USA due to its diverse policies across states but the one thing the world still looks up to USA is the way they can rebel when they want to send a message. Come on USA you can impeach the sun-dried tomato of a president..",
"Unless you could see some benefit to having a stronger economy, and it's under a strong economy that the Republican party tends to prosper.",
"I see you are so biggot you can’t even think. ",
"Whoa. \n\nTime is a weird fucking thing. ",
"I mean to be fair San Francisco is a pretty shithole city. Just walk down Mission and see the seas of homeless people and people displaced because cost of living has skyrocketed. Go to any McDonald's near golden gate Park at night and see the neoliberal dystopia as people with nowhere to go just sleep at the tables. How about instead of trying so hard to influence the national narrative via endless virtue signalling the city try to take care of its severe homeless and garbage problems in its own backyard instead.",
"Good. Now I don't feel bad about saying this: \"Oxygen thief\" would be a rather mild way to describe your existence on this planet. ",
"San Francisco is an echo chamber.",
"To spin things? Yes. But my point isn’t what the media is saying it’s what Trump is thinking. ",
"I'm glad we are saying it again. ",
"> Why was he just “shooting the ground”?\n \nBy his account it was an accident, and by nearly any account the guy's a dipshit. And manslaughter actually has a rather high bar to meet, shooting a gun pointed at the ground by mistake doesn't meet it. If they could prove he intentionally shot the gun, or if he was pointing it in the air, I fully expect he would have been convicted of manslaughter although IANAL. \nHell, people accidentally shoot guns and hit themselves / others all the time without so much as getting charged at all. \n \n \n>What about how he has been deported several times already and has committed multiple crimes? Do these things not typically mean “you don’t get to do this stuff anymore”!\n \nCommitting one crime has zero bearing on your guilt for a completely unrelated crime. That's something that people seem to have a really hard time understanding. ",
">person has non-liberal opinion on reddit\n\nMust be one of those racist T_D fucks, right?\n\nI'm a conservative who is anti-Trump, but man, every time I try to 'join' the liberals I see that you're no better in terms of insulting the other side, and you repulse me.\n\nPolitics is making everyone a fuckin asshole these days.",
"The downvoting of my comment seems to prove the point. 😁 I’m 46 btw.",
"If it would be good if we could cut a bit from the defense budget and reallocate it elsewhere like free public colleges. That way people wouldn't have to take a house loan to get a decent education. Or better yet, better grade school education and higher pay for grade school teachers (though I think that's a state problem).\n\n>He could pass a bill that would raise taxes on large business \n\nI suppose, but that's unlikely to happen, considering how hard they worked to pass the tax cut in the first place. Large corporations already park their money in offshore accounts, so it's not like they are hurting for money. It makes more sense to give the mass amount of people more spending power, or at least, better quality public education/roads. ",
"[Yes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omDM0x7ZNrY)",
"We can't send the refugees back to their countries!!!! Why not? Because their countries are shitholes.....",
"Its so funny how americans dont support their president.\nTheir own president gets no respect.\nWhether or not you like him he is your leader and it causes division by not standing with him.\n\nOf course though i am pretty retarded with politics. I tend to not fuss over any of it. Educate me if you like.",
"Season 2 of this fucking circus is right around the corner, what a time to be alive ",
"The standard for political protest costs thousands of dollars.\n\nYeah. Love it.",
"Murican Freedom Units you damn commie ",
"Not a President of the USA in front of several members of the press... Kind of a much bigger deal than someone sharing his opinion with their friends",
"Many projectors have automatic keystone correction. It would only take minutes to set it up like this.",
"Such brilliant words. Did you pat yourself on the back and call yourself genius for coming up with such brilliant insights?",
"It's always a weird sentiment to me. I have trouble relating to it.\n\n\"They should stay in their safe space!\"\n\nWell, maybe, but I don't see myself as a TD poster first, reddit user second. I use reddit because it has a great many specific communities that I am interested in, and I participate in them.\n\nAnd I post in TD.\n\nI am not brigading by commenting on other parts of reddit.\n\nThe wrongthink is real.",
"Lots of political posts in r/pics. You serve shit, you eat shit.",
"I'm frankly curious how you avoided this story.",
"Man I must have just missed this. I’ve been working near this area on the mission st side and left around 8pm and didn’t see it. Anyone know which side of the building this was on?",
"Actions speak louder than words, and I'd say his actions of racism, misogyny and xenophobia are more than enough to disavow any awards ~~he paid for~~ ~~/~~ ~~from foundations he donated to.~~ he may have recieved.\n\nEDIT: This comment isn't exactly fair, I'm positive that in the past I've defended presidents like Clinton or Obama by citing awards, so I'm gonna scratch that part for consistency. I still don't believe Trump *deserves* these rewards, but he certainly earned them somehow.",
"I'm not your shithole, m8!",
"It a really great projection. And I know projections. Top notch. And its huuuuuuge.",
"It seems I was too early to congratulate you to finally understanding things, but your narrative is already estabilished. Maybe some other day, when your world isn't black and white. So good night. ",
"I looked at for a map",
"Wait until some of your favorite socialist collect enough taxes from working people that you get one for “free” upon your wish. Than you can project some love and worshiping quotas on your favorite communist in charge.",
"There are shithole white countries too. Moldova, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc. I want less of them in my country and more immigrants from S. Korea or Japan. You know, more people from stable countries who are more likely to bring benefit to this country.",
"The people of many non-western countries usually are more motivated to give it their very best shot. As someone from the Netherlands I simply want to continue the lazy life that I am living now, working 24 hours per week, having lots of time off.\n\nSo who are you going to pick, me or that Ethiopian?",
"I understand the point but it doesn't make sense...",
"only if all you do is go to tourist traps ",
"You could just feel apathetic about your apathy.",
"Why on earth would anyone from a rich country want to emigrate to the US? You don't even have proper health care, and there seems to be guns everywhere. No thanks.",
"Only an American who has never travelled can honestly say this lmao",
"Second hand source?\n\nYou mean the way any information gets leaked out of the white House?\n\nNot gonna have those sources if they start naming people and shit.",
"It's pretty rare for me to laugh audibly from something on Reddit, but you got me on that one. ",
"Because the Democrats really want Pence to be president.",
"Brightness matters. ",
"Too expensive in SF to pay for Graffiti art. Have to go to Oakland for that.",
"OHOHO So daring. ",
"“Beautiful, soft towels. Very good towels.”",
"It’s an insult to shitholes everywhere. ",
"So far there is no story. Just Reddit comments without sources. ",
"Uhh in the whitehouse and propping up the president. \n\nThat's why voicing opposition is important.",
"\"We're saying Merry Shitsmas again.\"\n\n-- Donald Trump",
"All you can do is vote and encourage others to vote. The last two years have been a shit(hole)show thanks to one man in particular. ",
"Sort of. The ex cop, Evans, said it may have ricocheted, he also said it may not have ricocheted. ",
"This is a masterpiece, and I love toffifee \n\nA+ good find",
"It's still not how a president should speak. ",
"I'd expect this in a shit hole city.",
"Upvote this like it’s a re-post.. According to Reddit anyways. ",
"He's not going to be re-elected. The country will burn before we let that fucker get a second term. ",
"Why would he need to make such a defense? The critical thinking, rationale and idea behind this issue was already put forward on 08/02/2017 with [S.1720 a bill To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to establish a skills-based immigration points system](https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1720/text).",
"I’ve lived 5 years in California. Be useful and contribute to society instead of bitching about a 5 cent charge. Pathetic ",
"Are you a Trump supporter? You must have shit for brains. Go to hell. ",
"You touse is mates, don't make me call your parents. Fuck off.",
"Trump can think whatever he wants, it's about the second part of what you said that matters. What is being said about him, all the negative shit, is the media's fault. Nobody was thinking about El Salvador, or that X poor country isn't a bad place to live.",
"Classic whataboutism. Innocent girl gets killed and San Fran ignored her. \n\nThis is why you have Trump as president.",
"Where's John Oliver :(",
"Obama called Libya a shitshow",
"Even Ivanka looks alarmed. \n\nAnd who is that guy on the far left looking at Trump with a frown?",
"It's somewhat unfortunate that the Senate seats up for grabs happen to be overwhelmingly Democratic incumbents, as that dramatically favours the Republicans and raises the probability of Democratic losses.\n\nHaving said that, the Republicans losing all 8 of their seats being contested isn't all *that* unlikely (though still not outright probable) once the effect of an emboldened minority vote is accounted for, and that would certainly send shockwaves through the party if it happened. I anticipate landslides for the Democrats in almost all of their current seats, and in a few currently held by the GOP.\n\nAdd to that the serious possibility of the biggest landslide for the democrats in the House of Representatives since the 1930s, and the potential for a party revolt grows ever larger. Republican senators in swing seats might be inclined sacrifice the president to save their skin in 2020 in a way they're presently reluctant to.\n\nMy money would be on the Democrats retaining all but about 1-2 of their seats (they could lose ones they took unexpectedly in historically-Republican states in 2012) and taking 4-6 from the Republicans.",
"Out them. The residents of these shithole subs need to be exposed for what they are.\n\nEdit: Don't, though. Stupid rules. ",
"He doesn't hate immigrants. Just the ones that aren't white. ",
"You make it sound like we've been living in Nazi Germany for the last 2 years, and the only thing that's happened since the presidency is the economy thrived, the stock market gained 6 trillion dollars, 2 million jobs were added, terrorism is being defeated, unemployment is at a 16 year low, unemployment for minorities is at it's lowest ever, border security is the best in four decades, companies are hiring like crazy and we're not in a fucking recession right now - like *everyone* predicted we would be.\n\nBut you see this as a bad thing. It's because you listen to propaganda news all day long. \n\nNothing is better than America. You don't know what a fucking volatile country is.",
"It was a tweet. Fuck if I can remember which. Wasn't even that \"nice\"... but his base of people went fuckin ballistic calling him a traitor and such like that.",
"Chill",
"Wow you still believe that? Obama scoffed at the idea the election could be rigged, and yet the left was eager to take that back as soon as the election wasn’t in their favor. Pathetic ",
"Most of what he's \"gotten done\" has been terrible for the majority of the country. His tax plan, repeated failed attempts to repeal Obamacare, and removing protections for national parks to name a few. ",
"You know what I do when I see something on reddit I'm curious about? I google it. Why don't you do that?",
"Except he's not. ",
"You're not making much sense pal.",
"By all accounts? The guy admitted to police that he was shooting at sea lions/seals. ",
"Quite the walk from 6th ave.",
"I thought San Francisco loved shit holes? ",
"I wasn’t curious about it. I just didn’t believe it. ",
"Our country (South Africa) has super progressive laws in regards to freedom of expression.",
"It's not that easy.\n\nImmigrants from Africa and Arabia are often (*this does not apply to everyone*) uneducated and iliterate people who just come to the West because of welfare.\n\nAt the same time, almost all Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean and Indian immigrants are hard workers that want to create a good life for their families.\n\nI would pick you over a Somali every day, but I would probably pick a highly skilled and highly motivated Chinese over you.",
"Sanctuary cities are pretty much shitholes.",
"The point isn't that countries with low living standards/security/etc do not exist. It is about further taking away their dignity instead of trying to achieve a better future for these places. They are being branded as shithole countries.\n\nImplications matter if you are head of a state. Yet I see all those morons repeating \"but it IS a shithole country\" like a prayer completely missing the point. I guess some people just lack decency.",
"I'm Dutch as well. I wish I saw the immigrants in the Netherlands work as hard as you're telling me they work.\n\n>The people of many non-western countries usually are more motivated to give it their very best shot. \n\nWorking hard =/= providing value to that country. If I immigrate to the US, I'll maybe buy a car, get a mid-level job, spend lots, travel all around the US, all of which provides lots of income and value. If I share pictures online and encourage friends to join me, then that's even more value.\n\nA poor dude from Africa who's gonna work a shit job in the States, barely survive, and then die at 64 is not providing much value.\n\nIt's harsh and terrible, but it's true. And it's how the folks up there think.",
"Take my upvote",
"Go away, bigot.",
"Every sentence here is literally false.",
"FCC Censors: Screw it, I give up.",
"Trump allegedly said shithole in a private conversation though",
"Vote locally instead. That way you can feel like you have an effect.",
"I don't like them. They are coarse and rough and irritating and they are everywhere",
"From a certain point of view, anyways. It's always amazing to me, every time someone says \"everything he's done is terrible!\" \n\nWell yes, to you. Not to his supporters, who are not a few.",
"It's called 'blackmail'. ",
"How come you aren't living there then? ",
"Is it very hard for you to understand that immigrants from Haiti are much more involved in drugdealing and other crimes that immigrants from Finland are?",
"Common sense, on a Trump post? How dare you!",
"Actually I do know what a volatile country, I've travelled globally, I understand there is upswing, I'm sick of the constant political conflict and media bullshit on all sides, I'm a conservative, I'm happy shits on the upswing, I'm sick and tired of hearing Trump this Trump that bullshit, nowhere in what I said did I make it sound like Nazi Germany, you pulled that outta your ass",
"Guess we have to blame the one who made the word popular for this edge.",
"I know the guy was tired but sheesh. He can get his dander up to yell about Hillary. ",
"Confused. Isnt that the pinnacle of Americanism? Overcoming all adversity to achieve success? Pulling oneself up by their bootstraps?\n\nIf I believed my only escape from a life of crushing poverty was to get in and stay in another country by any means possible.. then gtfo my way, Im doin it.. Repeatedly, if required.",
"I guess you've never heard of Antifa?",
"This simulation just keeps getting weirder ",
"DAE Trump voters dumb?",
"I agree - but receiving an award is hardly 'words', I'd say it's a thank you from their community to people because of their past actions.\n\nBut I don't disagree with your premise that Trump is X or Y.",
"So brave! Wow!!!\n\nHow will BLUMPF recover from this LOL!\n\nBTW San Francisco is the shithole where illegals can get away with murdering American citizens, in case anyone forgot.",
"How come Trump would get impeached but Hillary avoids it?\n\n",
"People in San Francisco don’t like trump? That’s a surprise",
"I mean- no they weren’t but that’s the media anyway. I see a lot of “40 people were killed in Iraq along with one British man”. The media relates news to the country it’s in. Why would they say “President says bad thing about country so let us investigate” when some of the countries that know he mentioned them have already made their own complaints and stated that he’s wrong- they are in their countries and know what it’s like to be there- he doesn’t.\n\n The issue for Americans isn’t that those countries are or are not shitholes it’s that the president is so inept he can’t even approach a discussion about immigration with a bit of decorum for once. ",
"such a shithole Fuck off you can do better than that m8",
"Ugh. Don't even bother with the comments, folks. Just hit the back button. Fucking snowflake Trumplings turned this post into a shithole. ",
"Neither. Radical, isn't it?",
"They don’t. Not at all. \n\nThe fact that Trump keeps lowering the bar with each new headline and the fact that his supporters not only stand by him but get a ragging political hard on the more of an offensive ass he is speaks volumes about his supporters.\nThe only thing worse than Trump, are his supporters. They LIKE the fact that he’s an offensive divisive asshole, to them, that’s their favorite quality about him. \n\nThe solution is to be as brash and offensive towards a Trump supporter as Trump is to the collective country. Would you shake a Klans member or Nazis hand? Not me, I’d just as quick spit in their face. We should tolerate almost everything except those that can’t tolerate those that do and this is a fundamental flaw with liberal thinking. ",
"With a tiny dong as well. ",
"Pence is just as guilty as Trump ",
"[The White House didn't deny that he said it](https://www.snopes.com/2018/01/11/trump-allow-immigrants-shithole-countries/). \n\nAnd let's be logical for a second, if Sen. Durbin was lying, it'd be pretty easy for all the other Republican Senators who were also present to just directly say \"No, he didn't\" and make Durbin look like a fool. It would be the word of multiple Senators against one. Zero risk to them and it would garner them a lot of political capitol.\n\nInstead, those Republican Senators all just said that \"they don't recall Trump saying shithole countries,\" which is pretty much a veiled way of trying to insinuate that Trump didn't say it, but allowing themselves plausible deniability if push came to shove. But that plausible deniability would be totally unnecessary if Durbin was flat out lying.",
"How many countries would have version of this?\n\nI know mine would. ",
"As terrible as he is, Pence is much better than Trump.",
"Looked it up - it's *alleged* that Obama *privately* referred to the Libyan conflict as a shitshow. I mean yeah, he might well have said it, but if you ask me being the President of the United States requires a bit of tact; i.e. don't say things like that *in front of the press*.",
"People from shit hole countries commonly shoot the ground while walking, because why not!",
">Defense attorneys said Garcia Zarate found the gun and it accidentally discharged, the bullet ricocheting off the ground at the pier frequented by tourists before striking the woman.\n\nhttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-crime-immigrant/illegal-immigrant-acquitted-of-murder-in-san-francisco-trump-slams-verdict-idUSKBN1DV3CR",
"HAHAHAHA what the actual fuck are you talking about? Looking at your post history you have a HUGE chip on your shoulder! We had a huge fucking billboard in Cape Town calling for Zuma to fall and no one died, we had massive rallies against the president in every province and no one died. Please take your bullshit elsewhere!! ",
"Exactly. I guess it turns out white cities can be shitholes too? Who would have thought it has nothing to do with race. SF is quite the shithole so this is so fitting, yet the irony goes right past them",
"both imaginary money and real money.",
"> Committing one crime, such as a misdemeanor immigration violation, has zero bearing on your guilt for a different crime.\n\nCrazy thing is, had he not been here in the first place she wouldn't have died.",
"[/r/Perfectfit](https://www.reddit.com/r/Perfectfit)",
"Sen. cotton and David Perdue both said they don’t recall him saying that. A senators staff was the source. Someone who most likely wasn’t even in the room. So an aide is correct and two senators are wrong and lying?",
"Yes, there was a painting with his dick out called \"The spear of the nation\" It was defaced: https://mg.co.za/article/2012-05-17-anc-irate-over-spear-of-the-nation-artwork\n\nPeople get triggered by paintings because more recently an artist who had a display titled \"fuck white people\" got defaced by members of a political party. After failing to get it taken down by vandalizing, they sued (spoiler: free speech wins) https://mg.co.za/article/2017-07-05-court-declares-fuck-white-people-is-neither-racist-nor-hate-speech",
"That’s just a very humble genius at work\n\n/s",
"They don't have to. The special prosecutor (e.g., Mueller) can enumerate a number of actions he feels the President took that would warrant impeachment. The owness is on the House to bring up the articles of impeachment. It's a partisan, political process. \n\nEDIT: Addendum. There's also some debate around whether a sitting president could be directly indicted. It's murky, because while throughout the years impeachments have happened or have been threatened, indictments have not. ",
"Like Republicans care about unwritten rules. \n\n>Being a contentious wanker, an abhorrent example of humanity or simply milking the system is not \"criminal\".\n\nIt literally is you abhorrent liar. ",
"I'm disgusted enough to give up on keeping up with the news, but they've also disgusted me enough to get even more engaged in politics than I was before. I want a hand in giving these assholes the boot, funny how if they had just been as averagely-shitty I wouldn't be joining the movement that aims to remove the administration and everyone in office who has been complacent to it.",
">The USA is comprised almost totally of immigrants and families of immigrants.\n\nDon't forget settlers. Someone had to actually build this nation, there weren't highways and cities waiting for us here.\n\n>The shithole country does not determine whether or not the individual immigrant will be shitty or not.\n\nAgreed. It most certainly [affects the odds](https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country), no?\n\n>So yes, it is unwise and very unamerican to reject immigrants from impoverished and suffering countries\n\nThis is ridiculous. We didn't take immigrants from the third world at all for the most part until the immigration act in the 60s. Before that we took immigrants primarily from Europe and based on what our country needed (as in we need 1,000 nurses so we immigrate a 1,000 nurses that year) rather than what other countries needed. If you're trying to say that America has always been open to anyone who wanted to come here then you're dead wrong. Even on Ellis island, right next to that oh so high minded poem, we sent thousands back to Ireland to face the famine. ",
"48%, 76,9% practically the same numbers m I rite\n\nI don’t even disagree with your statement but why preface it with absurd untruth",
"Go back to the_traitor. ",
"The problem wasn't the word shithole (because face it, it is) the problem was that he (allegedly) said that we shouldn't want people from those countries because they're undesirable ",
"The number of people filtering out this sub right now looks like the national debt counter",
"The Trump Shithole claim is also alleged.",
"like an asshole",
"r/politics, probably",
"A president should clearly not be saying such things, not in any circumstances ",
"Okay? And? People in your area don't have to conform to what you.believe, this is a free country where you can believe who or what you want.\n\nYou may not like Trump but don't attack people by implying that they're idiots.\n\nI don't like him either but I'm not going to go pointing fingers and plugging my ears blaming only one party. It is everyones' fault for being so invested in Hollywood and fame to the point that the presidency is now just a celebrity contest.",
"You could look at it that the good citizens of the USA who don't blindly follow an absolute twonk like sheep are doing the USA a huge favour, as the rest of the world looks on at his hateful antics, instead of the whole outside world condemning the USA forever, we all realise it's not the USA, , it's just him and his horrible clan. If they all stood supporting him the whole country would be condemned forever. \n\n",
"The President is generally immune to prosecution for various crimes _while the President is in Office_, and actions taken while in office are generally not prosecutable. \n\nThe exception being the things outlined in the Constitution (Article 2, section 4): \n\n> The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.\n\nThere is much debate over what \"or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors\" means, but generally, the consensus appears to be roughly, \"If they weren't otherwise immune, it'd be a felony\". Mostly. Kind of. Hence the debate. The issue here being we don't really have a lot of actual precedent here, there have been vanishingly few impeachments in US history, even fewer _Presidential_ ones. ",
"Enjoy this shiny upvote!",
"How the absolute arse-biscuits did you jump to that conclusion? ",
"Hahahahaha that's objectively true. Education levels, socioeconomic status, crime rates. Speaking in trends here #notall",
"Yeah and things change and progress........",
"Slovenia's not a shithole. It's HDI is only about 3% less than that of the USA. Considering the USA is also about 3% of the way from the best HDI, Slovenia's pretty good.\n\n",
"Even if? 'expected'?\n\nDo some research for christsake.",
"San Francisco...throwing stones in a glass house.",
"And they haven’t been able to build up their country in all those years? There is a big gang for people from el salvador, why should you not be suspicious of people from there?",
"¿Que?",
"[San Francisco's hottest club is Shithole President](https://i.imgur.com/Lhpb8XD.gif) ",
"Lol, I'm a total idiot, I just now realize that covfefe is probably misspelled coverage, if you try to misspell it as coverege the wrong letters are just next to the ones you intended to push... it's so fucking obvious, it physically hurts that I didn't figured it out immediately....",
" Not worth talking to. \nFuck off",
"As someone from one of those shithole countries we don't want your help",
"The sarcasm swoops over yer head",
"You just proved his point.",
"Back to the_traitor with you.\n\nHint: If you post on that sub, you're gonna get called out a whole lot if you say something stupid like this. ",
"Yeah but that is because they are **in** Haiti or Finland. Not because they are *from* those countries. Haitians aren’t predisposed to becoming criminals by genetics. Environmental factors lead to it. Remove those factors, and the calculus changes.",
"Iv disabled all news notification on my phone...",
"So every major city? Shithole city in a shithole country with a shithole president ",
"Isn't that a bit 'I know you are but what am I?'",
"I remember a loooong time ago, in 1999 I think, the men's magazine FHM protected a naked photo of Gail Porter onto the side of the houses of Parliament. I haven't seen anything up there since but I've clearly not been paying attention! ",
"We actually want Texas. We fought a war over it.",
"What's he actually done that doesn't make him a shithole president? ",
"At this point, pretty much the whole world is anti-trump. So if by \"theirs\" you mean \"everyone's,\" then I would agree. ",
"Stay classy San Fran ",
"Fuck that.",
"It's not really his fault that the media is desperate for any semblance of negativity to report on him",
"Nah 17th!",
"Thank you. Just as I thought there was more to the story and it was used as racist propaganda without all the facts. ",
"You said it, accidental. Why should he lose his right to bear arms?",
"Vulgar words are very synonym with American, all these reaction amuse me in some way. why so much fuss on these? compare this with all real wrong doings(foreign countries invasion etc) your exs president did is incomparable.",
"I can't believe it's been a year with Trump already. As someone who live across the globe, I thought the whole thing was a joke and that he would never get elected.\n\nNot only did he get elected, but he's still around after a year, despite all this shit. I never thought for a second he might go full term, but I may have to rethink that.. ",
"Ah, but the real question is this: will he lose his shit verbally or out of his shithole?",
"cant wait for St. Shitricks Day",
"I feel like I need to hold myself to a standard, I can be angry with someone and still treat them like a human ",
"Yeah the 4chan missionary post. Saw that too.",
"No what I'm saying is to hate someone for having a different political view makes you an unamerican piece of shit. \n\nFuck Nazis too.",
"Nah it's just the right-wing retards who say that to troll. Mostly the liberals say \"watch now as nothing happens because his supporters are retarded/racist\".",
"It's like living in a movie ",
"Hey, give credit to all the stagehands and directors and behind-the-scenes workers in the GOP who helped make this show possible. Actors get all the praise smh.",
"Best ratings tho",
"In the oval office during an official meeting with members of the united states government. Sure he can say \"shithole\" but it makes him unfit to lead a nation let alone a paper bag. ",
"Trump should be required to go through some kind of mandatory Humankindness education instruction and be formally reprimanded for his foul remarks. He may be Rich and the president But he has no Class and is far from being a Statesman. \n ",
"Idiocracy has officially become a documentary ",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UW2ZndKqcg",
"You surely have a hard time with all that job safety, bonuses and less taxes provided by your conservative president",
"Calling a conflict a shit show is not the same as branding an entire country a shithole",
"Haiti *is* a shithole.",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"Your argument falls apart immediately. The illegal drugs aren’t “coming here” because the cartels thought they’d be a nice gift. American citizens’ demand for drugs fuels gang/cartel violence that’s ravaging many countries. The billions in cash flow and guns which leave our country are what give the cartels their power, so it seems just a little bit problematic to blame it entirely on their governments. \n\nBesides, Trump didn’t have the drug trade in mind when he called Haiti and African nations shitholes. You’ll need to think of a new rationalization for those—have fun grasping at straws! ",
"Every day that goes by, I read something that reminds me that I live inside of a satire. Not the real world where people take care of one another. No, instead we have the corporate ownership of our democracy spearheaded by a bought and paid for racist leech, and a complicit government. I feel truly hopeless. A blue midterm would be great, but we have to fundamentally rethink the way things are being done at the federal level unless we wish to see the decline of our nation. We used to kill nazis, now the president says they’re good people.",
"We're not taking babies as immigrants. We're taking adults who have already been affected and molded by those environmental factors. ",
"From what I've experienced both online and in my personal life, Trump supporters are overwhelmingly ignorant and naive, supporting anything he does without question or understanding so long as it \"pisses off librul snowflakes\" or falls inline with their racist views. I hate to marginalize such a large swathe of the public under such a specific stereotype, but I have not once experienced anything in favor of the contrary. I've yet to hear a logical argument in favor of Trumps positions or actions. His supporters, almost without exception, seem to pride themselves on anti-intellectualism. ",
"Why San Francisco would know a thing or two about shitholes, it literally is one, it lets homeless people shit and piss anywhere they want, what a shithole city!",
"Shithole city",
"How to have epic political banter: \n\n1: Say 'incoming (epic insult based off of trumps name, i.e 'Trumplets' or 'Trumpsters' etc)\n\n2: desperately go through the comment history of each commenter to make sure they post in a sub you don't like. This allows you to determine whether or not you'll actually have a discussion or not, since if they post in the_donald you can just say \"look out guys, HE posts in the sub we don't like\" and be done with it \n\n\n\n\n\n\nDon't waste your time going through my history, I don't like trump or the_Donald",
"Yes. They choose to be filthy and homeless right? Good work. Full of compassion.",
"So stay away from Haiti.",
"You racist.",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"My job field is globally secure, I don't have an issue with moving, since I'm young it'd be nice to travel a little. And since his tax reform I'm expected to have less taxes but it's shortsided in my mind ",
"Yup...shithole confirmed.",
"Very appropriate for a once very nice, now *shithole* city...",
"Lmao fuck off mate",
"Great point. Vote against the fucks that enable the president too. ",
"Jeez I remember that. Knocked one out to her a few times I must admit. ",
"But, ew, poor people!",
"tbh, this building LOOKS incredibly shitty…",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"I'm not bitching about a 5 cent charge. Be useful and contribute to society by reading between the lines.",
"What's that like? Being such a loser? Is it like indigestion? Does it make you cry at night? Bet it's lonely. Y'know, because all you can talk about to each other about is how you voted him into office, but then it's sonething you all can't bear to discuss. Wow.",
"Directly across from this building is the 9th circuit court of appeals. I choose to believe it's someone in there doing it (but obviously not cause they'd probably get fired if caught)",
"Many, many articles on it, search :Trump Shithole\" for more https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/unkind-divisive-elitist-international-outcry-over-trumps-shithole-countries-remark",
"https://i.imgur.com/YHB3mAf.png",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"They are taking care of symptoms created by a dying country. Other cities just create them and send them away.",
"> Terrorism is being defeated\n\nTrumpets actually believe this 😂👌",
"Naw I just saw other people being judged on here in the comments and the thought came to me.",
"Pick one (only one, it's 2 am) and I'll indulge you.",
"When did I insinuate that? Take away what you want to take away from that statement. Just because I say this is to be expected from California, that automatically means that no other state is anti Trump? You're a real piece of work kid. Keep on keeping on. Life's a garden, dig it?",
"You’re a really nice person :)",
"Would you bet a couple thousand dollars on that?",
"I'd argue quoting is not repeating the same things back",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"An hero",
"This is gonna sound weird, especially coming from a liberal, but I feel you on that one. My representative on the state level is Republican and went against party lines to vote for an environmental bill but only with some traditional conservative exceptions that ended up being reasonable and even respectable from that aspect. \n\nI didn't like some of the concessions but I understand where he comes from in relation to conservative values, but a lot of people here saw it as pulling away from Trump's America and bowing down to Jerry Brown and other moderates also being labeled as RINO. It's like they're doubling down on the whole idea of \"the only people who question their party are Democrats because Republicans know to fall in line\".\n\nWe may not share a lot of the same ideals of what a perfect America is or how to get there, but I know that you're not really my enemy and can only hope and assume you know I'm not the enemy either. Hopefully soon the country can get back to running on minimal amounts of animosity towards each other instead of these extremes.",
"So you will never be a successful person good to know LOL. ",
"It stinks like a shithole in here, lots of \"both sides\" nonsense and lots of \"As a liberal... <right-wing horseshit>\"",
"Those were simpler times...",
"So people who vote Trump deserve to be treated differently, ostracized, or otherwise treated poorly compared to others?",
"Trump wants people to talk about how racist he is? ",
"They are just rotating attacks, they are prepping a big push for the 2018 midterms to paint Trump and firs supporters as racist. It isn't a new strategy for them, but they are upping their power levels.",
"Almost a whole sentence there, little guy! Keep trying, buddy. You'll figure it out!",
"San Francisco’s hottest club is Shithole. It’s got everything! Pin the moustache on the hipster, homeless veterans with PTSD, mimes that can talk, and a copy of Cheers on VHS.",
"Which is why I heard her dad bitching the whole drive there lol.",
"Wow, a thoughtful and well-stated fact in a sea of bs comments from people who aren't well informed on the issue due to blissful negligence. Thanks.",
"If only every major city would do the same!",
"Someone gonna take a trip to Mexico coz of this",
"If that's how you feel, that's fine. \n \nBut then don't turn around and say an accidental shooting should end up with a murder charge for someone else. \n",
"I don't agree with the President saying shit like this, however.... Would you leave the US to live in any of those countries.... Lol just saying ",
"...well, fuck ",
"Everytime someone says that about Trump, they're shown to be wrong. People thought it was the \"end of Trump\" after the \"grab them by the p***y\" recording, by they were wrong. ",
"Just keep saying what you want to believe; you sound more delusional then Trump does at this point. ",
"/r/mildlyinfuriating ",
"Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh, my God. It even has a watermark.",
"Politics isn't a fucking game, it's not music, it's not a sports team. Politics is giving people authority to rule our lives.\n\nIf a group of people wants to vote in a racist, sexist, trailer park trash billionaire that's going to grind under his heel every last person who doesn't have a silver spoon and a golden parachute, then fuck them, I am absolutely going to hold them accountable when this shitshow ends and the bill comes due.\n\nNazis are a political party. You seriously don't see how your 'universal acceptance' shtick creates the very thing you claim to hate?",
"Yes because if your country is poor then everyone there has no education or contribution to give to society",
"lol [this](http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/d99e21d9dabceea2d7ef8329607a0681-e1400816905634.png) is how I picture you.",
"I like how this is getting more publicity than AN EXPANSION TO SURVEILLANCE. ",
"Or, to be politically correct, Happy Anus Day",
"Remember when Obama called Libya a \"shit show\"? So courageous!",
"People around presidents use to know how to keep their mouths shut and not leak shit like a little bitch. \n\nHaiti. Is. A. Shit. Hole. No one moves there. No one vacations there. No one wants to be there. People that live there don’t like it. He’s stating a fact and his choice of words were poor. \n\nEveryone here complaining about him talk to me in a few months when the right has gained more seats in the house and senate. This petty bull shit is ridiculous and only ignites his base. ",
"Lol true. Listening to Trump supporters and the man himself take credit for the stock makes me laugh and reality is they’re not wrong. \nWhen the substitute teacher shows up, the kids know they’re going to have a good time. ",
"Agreed. What's your point? ",
"Did your shithead ancestors ask permission before coming here from whatever country kicked their free loading asses out?",
"It's not racist, just statically accurate and logically well-founded, congrats!",
"Private* meeting. How's this quote from LBJ to two governors? \"I'll have these n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years\" referring to the Civil Rights Act. So I guess presidents didn't always keep their mouth shut like you implied. ",
"I bet your name is Anthony and you live in Milnerton or something",
"Well played.",
"Shithole state.",
"True tho...",
"Something really bad seems to happen in the world every January. I’ll be ok if this is it. ",
"Ah, the good 'ol Reddit switcheroo.",
"For fuck's sake, no one is talking about the election having been \"rigged\". What's truly pathetic is you making up oppositional arguments because you're afraid of the real ones. \n\nAnd you know what's *even stupider* about your comment? Trump himself said the election was rigged, and the right was eager to play that up, until he won. Look up the word \"hypocrisy\" in the dictionary. ",
"Shithole city",
"all men are created equal, its just we want the more educated and skilled men to migrate here instead. even if all men are created equal, do you think a serial rapist is equal to a mom?",
"Shithole San Fran where you'll literally find human shit on the sidewalk while you're walking around.",
"Well I've already listed three but I'd really like to hear you defend his \"grab her by the pussy\" statements. We have a president who not only admitted to regularly sexually assaulting married women, but who BRAGGED about it as if he was proud of himself. ",
"Once we stop hating our partisan counterparts we can move forward, disagreeing isn't equal to maliciousness ",
"Um..... yeaaahh right /s\n\nYou’ve got to be a complete idiot to believe that, and believe the whole case wasn’t fixed.",
"“Semblance of negativity”- is that what these are? Just faintly negative acts? ",
"Is there another type of immigration law that isn't federal?",
"It's a fucking shithole and that shit needs to stay where it belongs. ",
"\"Hi... pot? Yeah, this is kettle... just wanted to let you know you're looking awfully black today\"",
"No, go read a history book. America has never been always open. Early colonists you say? Guess where they're from! You guessed it, Europe woohoo!!!!!!!!!\n\nGuess who wasn't invited? The middle East woohooooo!!!!!!\n\nSpain, France, Britain, and the Netherlands were some of the first European settlers and the immigrants that came were from THOSE nations.\n\nAmerica became known as a land of opportunity after many settlers came and established their land and sent word back by letters or word of mouth.\n\nSorry if I was a dick and very blunt, but in order to get across the bridge, you got to just slam right across.",
"Not if he wanted to live. ",
"Giving your best isn't always good enough, life isn't about participation awards.",
"No.",
"Stupid fucking liberals that's who. ",
">Disgust people until they disengage and give up.\n\nTrump 2020! TRUMP 2020!",
"No it,s when they are in other countries. That's why they are called immigrants.\n",
"The right doesn't give a shit. Just fall in line and vote for them and they'll keep doing whatever in the fuck it is they say they're doing for you.\n\nFTFY ",
"Illegal immigrants genius, illegal genius. ",
"In that poorly translated interview, the guy admitted to firing the gun multiple times, being 5 feet away from the victim, and being over 150 years old. \n \nNote that the prosecution, defense, police, and witnesses all agree the gun was not fired three times, that he was nearly 100 feet away, and that the man is not, in fact, 150 years old. \n \nSo, I'd be extremely cautious about trying to use anything from that interrogation to make a point. ",
">*you* think they are shitholes... the president is held to a higher standard... \n\nLmao, the truth doesn't change depending on who thinks what's. \n\nThe truth is that they ARE shitholes, by every metric. Go and have a look at the stats. You are mentally ill!!! Sad!!!!!",
"Have you ever been to the US?\n\nOur health care is the best in the world for those who can afford it, and it’s not the Wild West with guns.",
"His pride in his vocation became his downfall ",
"It would be really funny if the person projecting this image got their teeth knocked out of their head.",
"Low energy",
"Remember when it was confirmed that he didn't even say that? ",
"Don't you have some cave to crawl back to, Sarah?\n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/world/national-security/obama-putin-election-hacking/?utm_term=.c9ca66c2d449",
"Oh, look. Another mostly downvoted Trump defender. Give it a rest. ",
"We can only hope..",
"This should say “WHY do we have to have a SHITHOLE PRESIDENT?”",
"Getting help from an outside source that's known as a hostile foreign power isn't \"rigging\" an election",
"and San Francisco is the USA. ",
"Why though? It's not an inaccurate term for many countries in the world, and it's just not wrong at all to swear or anything *even if you are the fucking president.* I don't like Trump, but this isn't an actual fucking issue. ",
"Lol Actually wish more people would think like you. Might keep more people away from here.",
"You probably can do this in South Africa though. Google 'the spear painting' to find a picture of our president with his penis hanging out. That is in a public gallery.",
"Gosh I love my state",
"I'm surprised the police didn't try and stop you. ",
"Well people discuss things that happen at the white house all the time. You're acting like it's unseemly for people to relate that \n\n#The President of the United States\n\nwent off on a rambling, incoherent yet overtly racist rant in which he referred to neighboring nations as \"shithole\"s. \n\nI mean my god it's not everyone else's fault *YOUR* chosen president can't open his mouth without being an embarrassment. If he can't represent himself as a grown adult with restraint in a professional work environment he *deserves* to be emberassed.\n\nHE. IS. NOT. A. KING. \n\nHe is literally a public servant. He ranks the same as a person who works at the DMV. He doesn't get to do what ever he wants.",
"> it causes division by not standing with him.\n\nWe are just fine with the division. A title does not make you a respectable human being which he is not ",
"Rigged is a very different accusation and it isn't one that people are making. It's more that the Trump campaign facilitated the release of information illegally obtained by a hostile foreign government. ",
"Not to mention if the democrats take the house, its likely democrats start opening investigations into broader areas. \n\nFor example, his organized crime ties. Or the abuses and corruption we see among many of his appointees, that are just flat out ignored by republicans in the house. ",
"The only shithole spots on this beautiful Earth are the poles. Everywhere else is full of people like us, just tryin' to live.",
"You mean obamacare that failed repeatedly until it was forced upon us? And has mostly helped the parasitic welfare base? No thanks.",
"The only time I was in SF (about 17 years ago) I witnessed someone stealing a car in broad daylight in the middle of the city. The street was full of people going about their daily life and absolutely nobody would give a shit...",
"I see a pattern here. trumpers barely ever provide any/no sources to back their argument, but rather, say \"do your own research\" or \"if you look up.,\" and tell us lazy for not doing so. That's not how you get your point across when you are trying to persuade someone. I've seen a numerous anti-trump posts with sources thoroughly cited. Why can't you do the same thing?",
"No. What makes you ask that?",
"lolwut? you ok buddy?",
"I won't. Fuckers will be lucky to get spit on. ",
"Right. I’ve never met anyone in RSA (outside Zuma supporters) afraid to insult Zuma. When I watched it, the South African version of C-SPAN seemed to be nothing but EFF members talking about the president in a manner that we’d find shocking in America. But I don’t know; maybe OP feels that white South Africans are afraid to voice their opinions in public (though they seem pretty forthcoming about their opinions in general). I can see them hesitating depending on the company and the bad interpretation (attack on Zuma/ANC being interpreted as an attack on black people) but I don’t see them being killed for it. ",
"Must be referring to Barry.",
"Chinese calendar?",
">The ex cop, Evans, said it may have ricocheted, he also said it may not have ricocheted.\n\nI haven't seen that reported anywhere. The bullet was flattened on one side, and they found a divot in the concrete. [He said that the shooter could have had the gun pointed at Steinle and still made the ricocheting shot on accident:](https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/30/bullet-trajectory-and-ricochet-shot-central-to-steinle-murder-trial/)\n\n>“A human being held a firearm, pointed it in the direction of Ms. Steinle, pulled the trigger and fired, killing her,” Evans testified. “That is the only way this could have occurred, that is reasonable.”\n\n>On the ricochet, Evans described an action he called “jerking the trigger,” in which a person — generally an inexperienced shooter, pulls the trigger harder than necessary, causing the barrel to dip. He said that can result in what he called a “skip shot.”\n\n>“It can be intentional or unintentional, but it’s where the bullet that is fired strikes a hard surface in the direction of the target but short of the target,” he said.\n\nThe defense questioned his expertise, and this point leads me to agree with them. If you are so bad of a shot that you can accidentally hit the ground 12 feet in front of you, there's no reason to believe your shot was accurate horizontally.\n\nHe also stated that a ricochet off concrete couldn't change the horizontal direction of a bullet, which was also challenged by the defense and their experts.",
"Ahahahahahaha good one my Human friend. Another good knee slapped if I do say so myself bull’s excrement indeed!",
"Woot!! Preach it San Francisco!! ",
"Seems accurate.",
"Iconic.",
"Is this Watch Dogs 2?",
"Do you Trumpansies ever venture out of the bubble? The Dump campaign Met with Russians. To get dirt on Hillary. Then they lied about it. Repeatedly. \"Collusion\" is proven, and is the least of Cheeto Twitler's worries at this point. It is an open secret in New York real estate circles that the Dump has been laundering Russian mob $$ FOR YEARS. Mueller knows it, and has evidence at this point.",
"It's not an issue that the President goes off on incoherent, racist, expletive laden rants in front of members of congress?",
"Yes, I will steal",
"Yeah, Syria and Iraq wasn't just liberated from ISIS or anything.\n\nBy the way, congratulations on rooting for the terrorists! ",
"Good thing his job isn't to be nice then",
"Hahah universal acceptance? You're just jumping to assumptions and saying shit I never said. \n\nHow is it this fucking hard to understand?\n\nI don't hate people, who like trump. Most people who like trump and are friends with me, don't hate me.\n\nFucking get it now? That's all I said. I wasn't comparing politics to music, sports, or whatever. How the fuck do you even make these assumptions? ",
"Wouldn't be right to meme the president without half assing it.",
"The USA was held in high standard by the rest of the world, now the whole world looks on aghast. The whole world is anti Trump, wake up. ",
"These types of comments infuriate me. A distraction and a political neutralizer. To admire the technique of a painting but to completely miss the picture. \nBut the last sentence was good. ",
"I want some too.",
"Regressive-left central.",
"ProTip: Elon Musk is from South Africa.",
"The man is a clinical narcissist with a compulsive, anguishing need to 'win' at everything at any cost - such a person is frighteningly easy to manipulate by anyone with the means to do so, such as the Soviets. This is him in a brief moment of reflection as winning the election is by far the worst trouble his condition has ever led him into.",
"Lulz. What has changed in your life as a result of this administration? I’m honestly curious ",
"You sound like a biased, arrogant and ignorant asshole who really does marginalize a majority of the country while claiming you hate to do exactly that. ",
"I aspire to one day be as insufferable as you've been in this thread.",
"If, for one second, you think he does this on purpose, and is some sort of genius media manipulator, you have massively misjudged him.\n\nHe is an impulsive idiot with the thought process of a moronic, self centered teenager. There is zero evidence that he is a considered thinker, and a very large body of evidence, and professional opinion, to say that he is mentally ill and extremely immature and unstable.\n\nYou are a fool if you look up to this worm and believe he is some kind of clever 'man'. He is a child. A vindictive, cruel, heartless, racist, selfish, impulsive, embarrassment. He needs gently leading away by the elbow and placing on a beach or near a golf course somewhere, so he can eat and drink himself into a hedonistic stupor while thinking his nasty thoughts about women and ethnic minorities. Make America great again? You've had some very inspirational leaders. Giants among men who had a very crystal clear sense of right and wrong and whose words are quoted, like these high ideals from John Adams:\n\n*\"“If national pride is ever justifiable or excusable it is when it springs, not from power or riches, grandeur or glory, but from conviction of national innocence, information, and benevolence.”\nJohn Adams, 1797-1801*\n\nThe last word in that quote does not describe a quality that Trump has. He is a massive embarrassment to the USA, and a dark stain unworthy of his office.",
"No, it's not. Criminal behaviour is criminal. Nixon authorised illegal bugging. Clinton I lied under oath. That'll get you impeached; being a complete cunt won't. Lying on TV/twitter won't, at least until you perhaps step into the realms of defamation. \n\nIt's *possible* they'll Al Capone him for past tax irregularities but imho if that was going to happen it would already be in motion. Folks have already poured over his publicly known stuff. You can bet your arse that someone in IRS has been over the non-public stuff (it's safe to assume they have partisan employees on both sides). If there was something illegal it would have been leaked already, either verbatim or at the very least a vague hint in that direction. \n\nBesides, you don't *need* to break the law to be dodgy as hell in your taxes, the law has been designed for exactly that by generations of folks working from the same page. Again that comes down the MAD policy, neither side wants too much scrutiny of that area. ",
"Leave.",
"He should have been outed too. \n\nLet's just let factory owners use child labor again because the used to do it before. Tradition and all. ",
"He didn't even say that. Fake news. Cbs confirmed it.",
"I fear to ask but what is a 'dog bar' in context? \n\n",
"Everyone in the reddit stood up and clapped",
"Which is it? Is Trump a Manchurian candidate crypto-fascist dictator whose lust for power drove him to treasonous dealings with Russia, or is he an incompetent who didn’t want to win the election and has no idea what he’s doing? Fucking pick one and stick with it.",
"[Yes](http://www.ktvu.com/news/prosecution-witness-testifies-on-bullet-ricochet-in-steinle-murder-trial). The prosecution witness agreed that it ricocheted, as did the defense. \n \n \nAlso, stuff like this doesn't leave much room for doubt: \n \n>Evans said crime scene investigators initially found no shell casings or bullet strike marks at the pier. However, they went back to the scene several days after the shooting for another look after an examination of the bullet showed that it had struck something hard before it hit Steinle.\n \nThey then located a strike mark in the concrete surface of the pier located around 12 to 15 feet away from where Garcia Zarate was thought to have been sitting, putting it around 72 feet from Steinle. Evans said that testing at the scene indicated there was an unobstructed straight line between Garcia Zarate, the strike mark and Steinle. ",
"Live in Bay Area, can confirm, SF is shithole president.",
"Implying downvotes matter.\n\nGet some integrity.",
"That would just... never ever happen, ever.",
"Hey I saw one of your pornos last night, it was pretty good. The acting on the female’s part was really good, unless they were actually partners?",
"You seem like one of the few examples of a decent person among the Trump supporters on reddit. I don't know you, but you aren't a Trumpling in my eyes. Have a good evening. Or, shit it's 4:00 AM here. Have a good morning. ",
"This is what is wrong with America. ",
"That's not what he said. \n \n>However, retired police Inspector Jim Evans also said he could not be certain where either the defendant, Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, or Steinle were located at the time of the July 1, 2015 shooting, making it impossible to conduct an exact trajectory analysis. ",
"*How is it racist?* Are you saying Haiti or Equatorial Guinea or whoever Trump was talking about is not a shit place to live? And again, it literally doesn't matter if there are expletives. This isn't the fucking 1920s, people can curse all damn day.",
"What is amusing about this being projected on this Federal building is that if you go one block east you arrive at 6th Street. A notorious, human shit covered, drug addict enclave. Half a block north you arrive at Market and 7th...exactly the same but without the hookers.\n\nSan Francisco knows exactly what a shithole looks like every day.",
"Two civilian votes threw the the Virginia State Legislature into chaos. TWO.",
"That was literally verbatim what I thought when I saw that comment.",
"He's well connected and senile. They are both true. ",
"Precisely. He absolutely would if he could.",
"Vote the right way though, or else everyday will be a dog fight for four years of people calling racism, xenophobic, sexist, etc; etc;. Which way to vote? The way that Hollywood tells you to",
"woopsies\n\n>[Lindsey Graham called Mexico, other countries ‘hellholes’ in 2013 immigration debate](https://twitter.com/kausmickey/status/952057534529064960)",
"Sf is the exact definition of a shithole.",
"Shithole fucking country, responsible for poisoning most of the goddamn world with their self centered, materialistic, capitalistic atrocities. Democracy is a cancer where ignorance flourishes, and basically just a convoluted dictatorship. A few rich assholes rule because they bought your votes through manipulation and propaganda, and you don't even *want* to know it (even though [all the evidence](https://www.reddit.com/r/BasicIncome/comments/2xfucb/the_most_terrifying_graph_on_democracy_is_a_flat/) [is out there](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gEz__sMVaY)). \n\nAnd the worst thing is, rather than reading this and helping yourselves, you'll help them win their battle for them by making sure people will never see this. \n\nOh well, if history teaches us anything, it's that assholes like them always go too far, and at a *huge* cost, we'll take back what belongs to us, if only for a little while before we slowly hand it all over again, and the cycle begins anew. ",
"Two Republican Senators deny it? No!\n\nWhat about Senator Durbin and Flake? Both said they heard it. And yeah, wouldn't surprise me that two Senators are lying.\n\nAnd Perdue and Cotton didn't deny it wasn't said just that they do not recall him saying those comments specifically. Basically implying that he said something that was shitty and ignorant.",
"r/pics may be a third world shithole, but it’s our third world shithole",
"Don't call me shithole, cunt.",
"Almost, not sure what he used, by assuming it's a mobile device with a standard keyboard, the \"a\" in coverage isn't adjacent to any letter in covfefe. I also don't know what kind of autocorrect would miss that. Then they tried to make it seem like it was a coded message. ",
"I suppose I should add the context that he was in negative karma at the time.",
"It's the *white space*.",
"> Would love to understand why you got downvotes.\n\nIt criticized Trump. THere are many who downvote just for that.\n\nWatch: I, Lots42, honestly and truly think Trump is awful.",
"In the USA?",
"You're right. His job isn't to be nice. The founding fathers would have bitch slapped this disrespectful son of a bitch back into irrelevancy if they saw the way he treated the office of the presidency. ",
"That’s in the shithole part of town of SF. Nice to see them advertise. ",
"As an outsider looking in I have to say how fascinating it is to watch what is and what isn’t acceptable in the US now a days. \n\nDestroying careers and lives, and driving people to suicide through harassment on social media is apparently perfectly acceptable. \n\nMacing people, beating them up, destroying local stores and ATMs and such also seems to be perfectly acceptable. \n\nSay the wrong word, though. Now THAT is bad. That’s out right evil, almost. \n\nAs I said; fascinating. ",
"You can say that a place is a shithole and not be racist but it was the context and the way it was phrased. Also it's not exactly the hardest thing in the world to not be a vulgar asshole in front of members of congress. \n\nHe literally cannot control his own mouth. ",
"So... You agree with trump?",
"I’m not your shithole, daddy.",
"It's also an utterly irrelevant observation. \n\nHe doesn't control the media narrative because he's such a brilliant manipulator, he controls the media narrative because he's the most powerful man on the planet and a complete asshat. (Not to mention the fact that he said it behind closed doors and denies it.)\n\nAre the media supposed to ignore this shit? If this was around 60 A.D. the \"media narrative\" would be about emperor Nero. Because that is the story.\n\nIt has nothing to do with \"controlling\" the media narrative, the man can barely control his own bowel movements.",
"> Because there is no need for unskilled immigration. \n\nThat is an absolute lie and you should feel bad.\n\nEdit: Downvoting me won't make vegetables pick themselves, Trumpsters.",
"paid russian troll",
"No.\n\nWith Trump it is always related to race",
">Vote locally ~~instead~~ as well.\n\nFTFY",
"[Fixed](https://imgur.com/RUYdOui)",
"[Or, you know, actually read something about the case and not just listened to angry right wing radio hosts scream about it](http://www.ktvu.com/news/prosecution-witness-testifies-on-bullet-ricochet-in-steinle-murder-trial). \n \nThe prosecution agreed the bullet ricocheted. And hell, with evidence like \n \n>Evans said crime scene investigators initially found no shell casings or bullet strike marks at the pier. However, they went back to the scene several days after the shooting for another look after an examination of the bullet showed that it had struck something hard before it hit Steinle.\n \n>They then located a strike mark in the concrete surface of the pier located around 12 to 15 feet away from where Garcia Zarate was thought to have been sitting, putting it around 72 feet from Steinle. Evans said that testing at the scene indicated there was an unobstructed straight line between Garcia Zarate, the strike mark and Steinle. \n \nOnly a moron would argue otherwise. ",
":(",
"So a person is a piece of shit if the country they were just randomly born in did not afford them the same opportunities for education that you randomly just had by birthright, through absolutely no fucking effort of your own?",
"Guess that’s why nobody wants to live here /s",
"Sure, and he shouldn't have been here. What's your point...? That doesn't somehow make him more guilty for any crimes he committed while here. ",
"Which is located in the USA, is it not?",
"He didn't even say this. Cbs reported the people don't recall ever hearing him say it.",
"Speak for yourself",
"Oh for fuck's sake, really? This is your defense of Trump's comment?\n\nAlso you're a dumbass that doesn't know shit about South Africa.",
"Umm no",
"But nooow he says he never said it smh",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"You're as delusional as he is. ",
"Eurg, this one. This is my girlfriends favorite issue.\n\nMy perspective on this is two-fold:\n\nFirst: the reading of the transcript doesn't warrant the interpretation that he is a serial sexual assaulter and that he abuses women and engages them without their consent. This is a **possible** interpretation, but not the only one, and in my opinion isn't the correct one.\n\nThere is additional context to the situation, as well. After the tape, and when Trump was interacting with women, he was being egged on to do as he bragged about doing, and declined, and otherwise behaved himself appropriately.\n\nThe way that I summarize it to my girlfriend, is that really it reads like something you would find on /r/thathappened, but because it's Trump it's the most happening of happenings ever.\n\nSecond: To me, this is the far, far more important thing: there is so much more at stake, so much more that is important, than the unsubstantiated allegation that he is a sexual assaulter. The tape doesn't prove he is, and the Supreme Court nominees, the power of the Veto, the power to appoint federal judges to the judiciary, the power to manage the executive branch, etc, all in line with politics that I support, is just so, so, so, so incredibly more important.\n\nHe's not perfect. Not remotely. He's brash, crude, and speaks directly and often times rambles. But that's secondary to having someone who will aggressive pursue an agenda and policy that I personally feel has long, long been needed in the United States, and to rein in a great many issues that have been running out of control under both Republican and Democrat presidents/congresses both.\n\nSo, in summation, while the tape is \"troubling\", I don't believe, or agree with the interpretation of what was said that he is a serial sexual assaulter acting without consent (and I don't care if he's hitting on married women, that's practically normal in today's society, and I don't like it there either, but I'm not going to hold Trump to some higher standard when society doesn't give a shit itself.)\n\nAnd I don't agree that it deserves any real weight when considered against everything else that's on the table.",
"I said the house needs to hold at least 20. NEXT!",
"I would love to see a source for your claim that \"a vast majority of illegals [are] committing violent offenses all over the country\" if you have one. I'm on mobile so apologies for the ugly link, but here's a piece citing some studies about the relatively low crime rates of illegal/undocumented people: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/07/12/illegal-immigrant-crime-wave-evidence-is-hard-to-find.html\n\nI found this part particularly illuminating: \"Looking at all incarcerated prisoners in state, federal, and local adult correctional facilities provides a more accurate picture of illegal immigrant criminality. Based on census data, the numbers show that illegal immigrants are about 44 percent less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans. Focusing on prisoners between the ages of 18 and 54, 1.53 percent of all native-born adults are incarcerated, compared with 0.85 percent of illegal immigrants in the same age range – including those incarcerated for immigration crimes and in immigration detention. Excluding those particular crimes brings the illegal immigrant incarceration rate down to 0.50 percent – one third of the native rate.\n...American cities with more illegal immigrants do not have higher crime rates.\"",
"In the Hebrew calendar, the year starts in September - October ",
"Because this is where we are as a society now. Trendy bullshit. ",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"No. The reeeeeing will never end.",
"how would you know?",
"You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait till next year.",
"Obama described Libya as a shitshow, no?",
"Lol are you serious?",
"No, that’s *kerning*",
"Wait, what makes calling a shitty place to live, \"a shithole\" have to do with race at all? And *once fucking more,* profanity doesn't matter. Every president since fucking Washington has used profanity once outside of the public eye, and a few even did so *in* the public eye.",
"You may speak for yourself but not everyone. Get help for your depression friend.",
"you...really need to get a life man. \n\nedit: oh god ETS poster, nvm, you need less free time apparently. have you tried getting a job?",
"Good one dude.",
"Would you rather move to Norway or Haiti?",
"is this a black mirror episode?",
"He didn't get Russia, Russia got him. The obvious fact of the matter is trump and his kids are idiots. Putin is brains behind the whole thing and it's not just that trump is his puppet, Putin has his tentacles deep into the republican party.",
"Yes, but what’s *keming*",
"Well America tends to flatulate after major milestones are accomplished. In this case, after the election of the first black president in US history. \n\nReality is without Obama, Trump wouldn’t exist as president. Any honest and rationale person regardless of political affiliation should be able to agree with this. ",
"Because no one wants to do research anymore. They want the news handed to them directly so they don't have to put any effort in. At least half these people probably read a headline and assume the rest of the story.",
"\"If you can afford it\"",
"I mean, no. Because it dumbs us down compare to the real issues.",
"https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/",
"Couple of prius’ in the background. You fucking Libtards are a funny bunch of misfits. ",
"You're being deliberately obtuse but okay.",
"You realize you're now literally arguing against the sentiment in your initial post I responded to lol",
"If you actually read my post, you'd notice I noted that you'd need to mistake the a for an e, and we know for a fact that Trump can't spell for shit. Also autocorrect applies when you hit space, but since it was the last word he hit enter. Negative media coverage makes perfect sense. I guarantee that is it and I'm ashamed of myself I am figuring it out only now.",
"Of course it's preaching to the choir, do you think this would make a difference if someone did it Trump country?",
"If you act like a preschooler, people will threat you like a preschooler, it's a pretty good technique. If you want people to threat you like an adult, act like an adult, easy.",
"Thanks!",
"Oh the tradition thing? Not being a vulgar asshole isn't tradition, it's decency. He's indecent. ",
"Love how the left decides to be as vulgar as possible at all times then pretends to give a shit when anyone else is vulgar. ",
"> Well, maybe, but I don't see myself as a TD poster first, reddit user second.\n\nWhat's that old joke with the punchline \"you build a million bridges they call you a bridgebuilder.. but then if you fuck one goat...\"?",
"You're a good person. I can tell.\n\n\nhttp://www.finland.org/public/default.aspx?contentid=144773&nodeid=40958&contentlan=2&culture=en-US",
"located in the USA?",
"Cherry picking the article.... very FAKE NEWS of you.",
"So glad I don't live in that shithole..",
"Located in the USA?",
"The truth is that you come off like a giant douche. ",
"> Say the wrong word, though. Now THAT is bad.\n\nSupposedly said",
"Ah yes, all those conservative internet companies always defending Trump",
"Just like the women’s march. It’s filled with irony.",
"Really I thought Trump made it MAGA?",
"Now the feds have him though as he has been deported several times and non-citizens do not have a right to own a firearm",
"> It's totally in focus too. Unlike this administration.\n\neconomy up, unemployment down... hmmm",
"Yeah, CA has republican governors right? Probably like Massachusetts Republican though. ",
"Sure bud. Keep believing that. And still it's like saying a 35% approval rating is a good thing. ",
"You realize legal immigration was a major thing here back in the day? Ellis island? Shit for brains? I got all my family's papers right here. Tool",
"> Because every country on the planet is politically homogeneous, right? There are almost certainly individuals in Norway who would share the political values Trump holds.\n\nI didn't say the Netherlands was politically homogenous, just that republican policies that Trump supports and encourages have are basically dismissed in Norway. Stop deliberately misinterpreting what I said. There are people who believe anything and everything all over the world, but in any small group of Dutch people, it's unlikely any of them would support republican policies given what politics is generally like in the Netherlands.\n\n> Objectively speaking, why does the United States want the one from Haiti? I invite you to explain to me, why, objectively, the United States would be improved for bringing them here?\n\nAgain with the deliberate misinterpretations. When did I say anything about Haiti? I'm talking about the Netherlands, and I don't give a shit what Trump thinks about Haiti. Why are you bringing it up?",
"No, I'm not. There is no racism here. It's not racist to call bad places to live shitholes. All you've really tried to do is derail it by arguing about how it's \"wrong\" to be profane when that literally doesn't matter in the slightest.",
"Creative, focus on finishing high school mate",
"No, it is not \"everyone's fault\". ",
"That's true, people never call the cities in Cali sh*tholes...",
"[You're improving](https://imgur.com/ll5QLQE), good use of the period, but you've still a long way to go.",
"Got your feelings hurt huh? Well unfortunately those are Trump’s words just remember that. ",
"Speak for yourself.",
"Wow, I stared at the post for a long time and I still don't get it. Can you explain?",
"Ok I hope you've never said something vulgar like \"shithole\" in private no matter the full context or intent. ",
"I think an educated individual from a civilized nation such as Norway will have a more positive impact on our society then someone from these shithole countries. It's a shitty truth.",
"> probably\n\nProbably not.",
"most recent one was Arnold And he's about as liberal a conservative you can get.",
"Would a Haitian rather move to the states or norway?\n\nEdit:word",
"You just compared politics to liking rap. Up there.\n> Politics is like music.\n\n\n People also treat politics like a sport in our country, so it's a valid comparison. \n\n> No what I'm saying is to hate someone for having a different political view makes you an unamerican piece of shit.\n\nYou also literally just said that. Are you saying you can't comprehend your own arguments? lol\n\nI get what you've been poorly attempting to say, I'm just pointing out that you seem to have no idea what you're actually saying.\n\nWhat I'm saying is that when Trump does finally get impeached, I'll be surprised if Trump supporters don't start a war.",
"Drumpf did promise to drain the swamp. I just don't think he planned to be drained with it. ",
"sigh, I get it, but seriously how will actions like this change anything. It stopped being funny a long time ago, and people have to take action. 62,984,825 people voted for this man, every single one knowing he was thinking crap like this. No matter how much you hate Trump, there's a whole lot of people in that group washing their hands in innocence, ignoring the fact they didn't do anything to prevent perfect storm conditions for him to get elected. But to this day I mostly see people protesting and ridiculing the symptom than I see people looking for the cause. \n\nI don't want to believe the opinion of nearly 63 million people is represented by Trump, I still believe it's mainly the ingrained tribal political system and people looking for change among politicians. I don't want to believe there are 63 million bigots in the US.\n\nThere's a need to change the electoral system and get rid of the first past the post system. Both the GOP and the Democratic party have WAY too much power. It's ridiculous to have only two parties affecting policy, the world is more than yes or no. The US needs at least 4-5 parties so people have viable choices. Win every district with 51% of the votes and you have control over 100% of the government, in most other first world countries you would have control over 51% of the government. Giving smaller parties the ability to keep the big ones in check.",
"I do apologise for having a opinion which is different from yours.",
"Trump embiggens our country with his cromulent words.",
"If the president's contribution to intelligent and thoughtful discussion is to call countries shitholes, then I'd say this is fair game.\n\nWhy is he the only one allowed to act like a child?",
"is that where you learned to mouth trumpet?",
"Now now. I don't claim to know better. But at least I'm not spouting all this nonsense from my shithole.",
"> Stupid fucking liberals\n\nYep. Calling them names. Guaranteed to get them to listen to what you are saying, and learn to not be 'stupid'. /s",
"But the man is still just as simple.",
"It's okay. Reddit is snowflake friendly to where you can custom tailor a safe space if you need to!\n\nTired of the harsh realities of life? Is everyone making fun of the terrible president? Head on over to /r/the_donald where you can sing his praises 24/7, and enjoy some complimentary Kool aid.\n\nThere's also /r/aww when you can pretend life is all puppies and kittens!\n\nSo many activities!",
"Beeeeeeeeeecause the subject was Trump's comments on Norway vs Haiti?",
"Ha ha",
">https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/10/30/bullet-trajectory-and-ricochet-shot-central-to-steinle-murder-trial/ \n \n>http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Kate-Steinle-murder-trial-San-Francisco-12318120.php \n \n>http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-steinle-trial-20171030-story.html \n \n>http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/30/kate-steinle-trial-to-feature-witness-from-defense-after-week-dramatic-testimony.html \n \n>https://patch.com/california/san-francisco/bullet-ricochet-testimony-kate-steinle-trial \n \nThey literally all say the same thing. ",
"Aside from you being wrong about that... Maybe, just maybe, it's not only about the implications for 'us'? Maybe we have some kind of moral imperative to help the less fortunate and not to pull up the ladder behind us? ",
"Haitians isn't a race dude. ",
"Another year of autistic shitposts from fellow Redditors.",
"Is someone paying you for winning arguments? Where do I submit my resume?",
"Trump is a simple man. Follows the US Constitution , meaning no BS like illegal immigration that liberals love, cutting the unnecessary regulations causing debt (thanks Obama), creating more opportunities for Americans, etc. Trump stands for the hard-working Americans, the legal ones of course, not Hollywood, not the UN, not the shithole countries, but for the United States of America.",
"That stuff is going to happen and no it’s not alright but neither is shitting on the American dream. It’s sickening to see people defending a man that is supposed to stand for and defend that very thing.\n\n",
"So I guess Obama's indecent for using profanity when talking about people then?",
">He doesn't seem to hate legal immigrants \n\nFixed",
"he said, with absolute shite sentence structure\n\ngo back to your echo chamber and jerk off about the big orange meanie saying mean things that hurt your feelings as a gay man or whatever manufactured outrage is fashionable today byeeeeeeeeeeee",
"Hey, I remember that awful, awful episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents.",
"You have a point",
"But, again, I see myself as a reddit user with conservative leanings who posts on TD. And I, when I feel inclined, post elsewhere to. I'm not part of some weird, organized brigade squad.\n\nWhy would I be? Not worth the effort.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/7kdgyf/z/drduvh9\n\nBut Im bigoted......ok, comerade.",
"Macron straightforward said African nations problem was having too many kids. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/07/11/536445457/macron-got-a-lot-wrong-about-africa-but-made-one-good-point\n\nPress still can't help itself from cheering Macron because he looks and pretends like their notion of President. ",
"On the first part: agreed.\n\nYour country of residence shouldn't be part of the equation - entrance to the US should be granted judged on how good you are as a person, not where you're from. \n\nOn the second part: where did that even come from?\n\n> even if all men are created equal\n\nThe key word here is \"created.\" Or \"born\", I guess, if you're not religious. All men *are* created equal, it's just that the culture they grow up in, actions they take, and the strength of their character determine whether they grow up as a rapist or a loving, caring human being. \n\nWhich is why you shouldn't judge based on a person's origin. Everybody has gone through an entire lifetime of shit, you have NO idea what anybody has been through. A resilient, bright young adult could have tried their entire life to resist bad influences and become successful, and that person could easily come from Finland *or* Nigeria. \n\nEven if a country is 95% terrible, it's worth that 5% chance to give a happy, free chance at life in America to a person that truly deserves it.",
"No, he just keeps lowering the bar until he can literally shoot someone in the street and we’d all laugh an go “HAH HOO HO! Oh that Donald Trump, what a character he is.” Then shrug and go back about our lives. In fact, he foreshadowed that himself. ",
"How about owning a gun as an illegal alien, repeat offender and felon. He shouldn't own a gun. Felonious Americans can't own guns. And I BET, again, based on your absurd username, you got complaints about gun laws too, bit this guy is the victim for the causes of your social justice bullshit. ",
"iraqi here, one of the most popular shows here just shit talk the gov for 90% of its content, it is pretty funny .\nthe show is called al basheer show for anyone wondering",
"Let's be honest here. As an outside observer, you've been kinda insufferable yourself. Telling people to google something they know absolutely nothing about is asinine. The other poster wouldn't even know what search terms to use to find the right news story. It's much faster for someone who already knows about the story to search it and link it to him, as you eventually did. So... I guess congrats on living up to your aspirations?",
"**Slow clap**",
"Let's say the choice is between an average Finn and a rich Haitian. Or a Haitian who earns an advanced degree. I work with a few very smart, educated and well paid people from Haiti or of Haitian descent.\n\nWhy should they be disparaged or banned from the country?",
"Can I offer you, perhaps, [a better investor climate](https://youtu.be/zSU5MFPn6Zk)?",
"It's almost like they did it on purpose..? ",
"I am ALL shitholes on this blessed day!",
"No because he actually did say it. ",
"So, what I'm hearing, is you are unable to conceive of non-racist reasons. And because of this, you think Trump is only able to conceive of racist reasons.\n\nThat limitation is your own.",
"You lost all credibility when you posted a link to that toxic rag",
"I feel sorry for whoever put that up.",
"Nah, I just care about this country. ",
"No, it's not possible because that's an insane racist idiot notion and he's just way too damn smart to be racist.\n\nOh my head hurts.",
"What about the moms trying to immigrate here? Educated, skilled moms?",
"We're taking the word of Dick Durbin on this? That man is as much a POS as any other politician. Very convenient that a Democrat is the one saying the President said this. The President denies it but a staunch liberal Democrat who hates Trump is out saying that no it's true. Oh ok. Totally cool.",
"Well, he was in his office in Parliament... ",
"I don’t put it past him. That’s the beauty of being Trump and a politician. His supporters will just do it for him. ",
"Why did he shoot the pavement? Should of hung the moron.",
"No, he wasn't. ",
"What's more to the story? He said the entire story in this comment:\n\n\"I'd like to see reddit defend some guy recklessly discharging a firearm and killing a young woman with zero consequences in any other context.\"",
"I prefer to start my years in December",
"Stay Classy San Fran",
"I don't even live there and it's doing my nut in ",
"Nyah the country will power through this shithole.",
"Uhh, Shithole?\n\n\n**ITS PRONOUNCED SHITTHHOOLE**",
"They came with millions of other people, probably like your shitty family did. Triggered much? What a tool.",
"Everything Is EdgY!!!!111 XDDD ",
"Why do the biggest of Trump fans consistently insult him? So bizarre.",
"Or start centuries a little late too...1815...1914...2016?",
"And why?",
"It's about the racism, not the vulgarity.\n\nAlso:\n\nGaslight\n\nObstruct\n\nProject <- you are here",
"China and Japan love Trump, South Korea loves SEA loves Trump, Israel loves Trump, India loves Trumps. Poland loves Trump, the Cech Republic loves Trump. Those counties alone make up over half the population of the world. Nice try though.",
"So you'd ban all Haitians because of that figure? Why couldn't a literate, hard working Haitian immigrate? Even if the literacy rate is lower, there are still literate people, who apparently have no merit because they come from a \"shithole country\". ",
">Telling people to google something they know absolutely nothing about\n\nThe details he has are San Francisco illegal immigrant killed a woman with a firearm via accidental discharge. That's more than enough to find it on google as the top result. ",
"Me too. I'm expecting something huge in the next 6 months that'll tip off the other half and someone is gonna get shot walking to the store or something, then the south rises again. \n\nWatch it happen.",
"Yeah I'm pretty sure one of our states has a higher GDP than Canada. Wait isn't California in the top ten GDP world wide?",
"I've tried sophisticated well thought out responses, they will not hear any other point that doesn't fit into their narrative, so I do t bother, I just use the same tactics I see them using.. ",
"They shouldn't. That's also not what Trump is proposing.\n\nThe United States has a serious problem with its immigration system. It's **not** merit based. Trump would like it to **become** merit based. At which point the rich Haitian, or the Haitian with the advanced degree would be preferred over the average Finn.\n\nAs it presently stands, we take in the most uneducated, the least able to support themselves, and spend billions propping them up, instead of them integrating into our society and contributing and supporting themselves.\n\nIn any other country in the world this is crazy; in the United States it's horrifying to suggest we do otherwise.",
"[You called?](https://media.giphy.com/media/3oFzmfLbZn3eY7spmU/giphy.gif)",
"Trump fans like respond to an insult to Trump by pretending it is going to be the absolute end of his presidency. It's insane and illogical. ",
"The USA use to be held in high esteem by the rest of the world, now the whole world looks on aghast, the man that leads you keeps making hateful statements, and you allow it. ",
"A private conversation doesn’t have an impact on policy. Neither does a projector stating ‘shithole president’ change anything either.\n\nThe only people acting like a child are the ones in San Fran.",
"Well you are looking at Cali which is the far left and how they react to stuff. I live in Tennessee where the most controversial thing is a neon pink sign for a gun show, and it's because the color is too bright. But no one REALLY cares because it's a businesses decision and the government knows that and doesn't get involve",
"Yeah, everyone there must be a savage murderer. ",
"So, people that go to court for a \"First offense\" shouldn't have any mercy at all?\n\nIs there a surveillance video or witness account of this guy anyways shooting at the ground with a gun, with which he also should not have had in the first place? ",
"Wrong. Very wrong ",
"You're regressing and leaving out periods completely. ",
"The American Dream is not just for those that are living it. Easy to forget how lucky you are when you no longer have to struggle the way that those that came before you did. ",
"Trump IS a garbage problem. ",
"Wouldn’t the campaigns collusion with Russia also fuck up Pence?",
"He hates immigrants? Source?",
"At this point, I think Trump being a moron is a deliberate strategy to distract us, while the Republican party fucks us on behalf of their donors...",
"It's everybody's favorite dead-eyed C+ Santa Monica fascist, Stephen Miller.\n\n*\"Notice me senpai\"*",
"Not exactly whataboutism since he's using the other case as legal precedent. The idea is to show that there are other places (specifically places that have very different political ideologies) that have found similar cases should be ruled in the same way.",
"Honestly I know the need for someone to shake the tree, I just wish it wasn't someone who was so nutso",
"Are you attempting to rationalize the unprofessionalism coming from the highest office in the land? If anything that one position is to lift people up and allow us to aspire to a higher level.\nTrump uses the presidency as a twitter account. Figurative and literally. ",
"> go back to your echo chamber and jerk off about the big orange meanie saying mean things that hurt your feelings as a gay man or whatever manufactured outrage is fashionable today byeeeeeeeeeeee\n\n",
"People just want to mind everybody else's business before their own. I believe that's the root cause of lots of the stupid shit going on these days. ",
"I guess anyone who hates to see whatever fuckup trump is being up to on frontpage 24/7 is a t_d poster I guess.",
"Yeah, uh, that's racist as fuck.\n\nCan people from \"shithole\" countries not be educated or civilized?\n\n \nThere are plenty of uncivilized, uneducated people in Norway, and there are plenty of educated, civilized people from countries like Haiti, El Salvador, or any of the other countries Trump lumped into the term \"shithole.\" \n\nIf, when America was in it's birth years, we only took people from places like England, Spain, Germany, France, and China, the most developed nations, we would not be half the country we are today. America is what it is because we give people from \"shithole\" countries a chance.",
"Typical Trumpism to condemn an entire city because you dislike what a few members did.",
"How disrespectful.",
"Man was accused of a crime and acquitted by a jury of his peers. \n\nThat's how I would title what happened.",
"Yup. They fired me up too. Do skip the news more though.",
"I think you need to get out of your bubble, they might be taking advantage of an opportunity, but no one loves him. ",
"Is this sub about cool pics or is it just anti-Trump shit that neckbeard all cackle at in their basements?",
"> How about owning a gun as an illegal alien, repeat offender and felon.\n \nYep, that's definitely a crime. And he got convicted of it! He was convicted of being a felon in possession of a firearm, which has a maximum sentence of 3 years. \n \n \n> bit this guy is the victim for the causes of your social justice bullshit. \n \nGuys definitely not a victim, he's a piece of trash I want out of the country. But he's also not a murderer. \n \n>based on your absurd username, \n \nYeah, it's so absurd to despise Fascism. How could anyone hold such an absurd position. \n",
"Why the fuck does everyone keep bringing up south Africa?? Trump didn't single out it. Is it because it's the one nation that has some semblance of western prosperity? Does anyone even know that SA's president is just like Trump?? Charged with rape, corruption, racketeering and repeatedly flouting constitutional norms. \n",
"I actually didn't know toffifee so I'm glad I get it",
"You'd have to pay me a shitload to live in San Fran. Place is actually a shithole. ",
"Yeah no shit stupid. Self awareness kicking in yet? Your family never asked permission first! they never had a job lined up how fucking dare you parasites come over here like that! \n\n>Triggered much? \n\nSo triggered bro XDDDDD. Go back to pissing blood over the \"illegals\" for a few more lines, that'll show me. Beats dealing with your own fucking issues.",
"Doesn't happen anymore, at least on Reddit anyways. Specially after it was astroturffered and correct the record/shareblue 'd to death during the election.",
"Many people do which is why so many people are leaving the state in comparison to other states! Unfortunately they go out and the same policies that make California a shithole but whatever",
"California is a beautiful state but unfortunately, it’s ran by corrupt democrats who rely on illegal votes. In places like LA, there’s literally a line for voters who have no voting ID. It’s a fucking shitshow over here.",
"Woah woah wait...you're telling me cities in Cali have poor and homeless?! Wow, I got the impression they were the shining beacon of perfection and everyone was happy there",
"Ah so for you it's okay when a white guy does it. ",
"Well Sis played, with Sis",
"Pastor says February is the shortest month because the year isn't quite awake yet.",
"That’s because the front fell off. ",
"turn that frown upside down...",
"For real, why would someone as awesome as you associate with such a place? I'm going back to 4chan so I can share some frog memes and pictures of dead girls, catch you there. ",
"(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ ",
" We DO need healthy laborers to work on farms. \n\n",
"Sure gaffs happen but Trump is authentically foul. His campaign ran on it. Being unprofessional is the new leadership norm he’s put in place. ",
":)",
"And mocking Trump's \"tiny hands\" is every bit as immature as mocking Obama's ears.",
"My man!",
"I can fix it for you",
"You know anti-Trump posts are botted right?",
"No. There is -evidence- of Trump being a racist. This goes back for decades. \n\n",
"If your brother had a drug problem, you get him help and try to turn him around. You don't just drop him when things are tough. Your also don't enable him by acting as if he's fine.\n\nIf you support any politician that seeks to undermine democracy, then you don't love America. If you thought this was the greatest country on earth you wouldn't try to kick foreigners out of it. If you're ok with literal Nazis running the show then you're a traitor and you have no idea what makes America great in the first place.\n\n",
"no evidence they just trusted his word, because illegal immigrants always gets a better treatment than us citizens.\n\n\n/s",
"> You're gonna get downvoted because this site is overwhelmingly liberal\n\nIt's not because the site is overly liberal, it's because it's a dishonest statement. The *only* motivation you can think of for illegally immigrating is because you want to do some illegal shit? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that statement is?\n\nThe vast majority of illegal immigrants want to stay below the radar so they don't get kicked out. There's 11 million of them. Do you honestly believe they're all here specifically to do illegal shit?\n\nIt's truly astounding that you'd defend such a statement despite all logic, reason and empiricism. Even more so when your only defense is liberal bias. ",
"Yeah but they’re still paying for you. ",
"We had Dilma Rousself for six years here in Brazil.You guys can handle Trump for a while.",
"The civilized world is an anti-trump sub. Reflection of this sentiment is to be expected in every corner. ",
"Dude literally posts in TD. Wouldn't have mentioned that awful place without a reason. ",
"That's when my days start so my bday is actually new years. ",
"Cute but wrong. It should be President Shithole otherwise it sounds like Trump is the President of Shithole Country which is wrong. ",
"So Fred Trump changing his name is different from Stewart changing his name how? ",
"Yes if he brings charges while he’s in office trump will just pardon himself. Where’s the Justice in that?",
"Then why won't he resign? ",
">It is about further taking away their dignity\n\nI think it was a dignified plea from El Salvador President begging Trump to not drop TPS protection for his countrymen in us. ",
"Or maybe he explained that state of Haiti and the senators said he explained it “as” a shit hole? Not like it’s a big secret that Haiti is a terrible country ",
"Yet here you are. ",
"I despise Trump as much as the next guy (and gal) but I truly do not believe that Trump colluded with the Russians. I just don’t think something THAT yuge and megaton could be kept secret for so long in this day and age of daily leaks. I want Trump to get impeached or imprisoned but I don’t think it will happen.",
"Poop",
"There is this small matter of trump being a proven compulsive liar.",
"> Nah. It'll be impeachment\n\nI hate donald trump as much as anyone but why do you have to be an arrogant dickhole. \"nah, it'll be impeachment\" fuck outta here nobody asked you",
"> The *only* motivation you can think of for illegally immigrating is because you want to do some illegal shit? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that statement is?\n\nIt’s in the name. Maybe if you read that, you would understand.",
"\"Their\" behavior? ",
"Trump owns the world right now.",
"Are you...are you seriously going to address my profanity when you...when you got Tru..Trump?...?!?",
"Projector across the street.",
"I guess you don't understand the evolution of immigration, but I expected your ignorance. Pissing blood over illegals? Dealing with my own issues? Haha, nice try bud.",
"RIP Kate Steinle",
"I think you misunderstood, along with the other two upvotes, I was calling people who post in t_d goatfuckers. ",
"GOOD point",
"find a place that isnt one",
"Oh yes, entirely shocking that some people have an opposing view to the echo chamber you find yourself inhabiting. ",
"The shit hawks are roosting Randers...",
"That comment was of course alluding to the leftist myth of the Russian hacking scandal. Get off your high horse, you know that’s what it meant. And I don’t give a fuck about trump, I concede he’s a giant douche, but the left are hypocrites in every way when it comes to the past two years of this election cycle. ",
"I know. At least on The Apprentice it was on one network and we could block it out ",
"There were a little fireworks. People danced in the street. Four couples and a dog got married.",
"What? He was describing the crime, and said there were no consequences. How is this inaccurate?",
"Oke, I just see it thrown around so much that I don't even bother most of the time that's why I replied.",
"> I guess you don't understand the evolution of immigration\n\nI understand that your freeloading, scumbag family came here looking for a handout. You think you're better than a mexican because you have immunization records of those parasites framed in an attic somewhere?",
"Can we put him in the hole?",
"Link it, then. Show it to me.\n\n[Because the evidence shows the opposite](http://netrightdaily.com/2016/03/trump-insisted-on-including-jews-and-blacks-at-palm-beach-golf-course-in-1990s/). There are examples like this going back decades, showing a pattern of behavior that is the exact opposite of racist.",
"Well San Francisco is becoming a shithole city. Man Trump's second term the liberal suicide rate is gonna be through the roof. ",
"Oтличная работа, коллега",
"In all fairness, seems to work quite well... ",
"> You're regressing and leaving out periods completely.",
"Oh like that's gonna stop them. ",
"What's sad is that American politics have become so incredibly binary and partisan. Politicians supporting this guy through every single horrible act and comment should be a death blow to their credibility as leaders, Christians, and decent human beings, for life. That's before reckoning the draconian, feudalistic policies they continue to pursue. \n\nThe two party system has killed basic democracy and morality.",
"I also like to fire weapons I just happen to find loaded in a public area and fire off multiple rounds near a crowd of people. Happens all the time, not sure why people make a big deal out of it, amiright? ",
"America has been a high achiever like Europe because it was colonized by European immigrants.",
"Jesus, does this joke never get old?",
"Why? Why are you unable to accept other people's opinions? Why do you care if they are a millionaire? What if they own multiple franchises around the white house? Why do you have to be a bigot? Is it hard to live with people that don't agree with you? Why do you care? Why don't you live life with a more positive attitude about things? Why question the person who loves Trump? Does this bother you? Why are you incapable of tolerating people you don't agree with? Why? \n",
"Private conversation. It isn't even proved he specifically said \"shithole\", and if he did, so what? In private, we all talk crudely. So what? \n\nHaiti is a shithole of a country. Not because the people are terrible, but the country is hell on Earth. The only countries I'd take Haiti over would be North Korea and Somalia. ",
"Trump played himself yet again.",
"The crime he was accused of was murder, what actually happened was he recklessly discharged a firearm and killed a woman. I wish I could say I'm amazed that you still don't get this even after I linked you the article and quote.",
"No one of course. It's just easy karma to make up imaginary opponents and then slam dunk on 'em.",
" \"Rosie's a loser. A real loser. I look forward to taking lots of money from my nice fat little Rosie.\" \n\nyep...nothing childlike about him, its only the people in SF\n\n",
"And if that doesn't work, plow your car into them! ",
"My bubble lol. I work in China, India, Japan, and SEA. They love Trump. You are wrong and your statement is false.",
"Apart from constantly saying dumb things and hilarious twitter posts what has he actually done that is making your country so bad right now?\n\n(Am not American)",
"Pretty sure our Dear Dotard is wholly incapable of having an intellectual and thoughtful discussion with anyone, about anything.",
"I cant believe the hysteria over a made up comment. Oh wait yes I can.\n\nDoes anyone have a recording of him saying anything of the sort? Is this what journalism is now?\n\n\"someone close to someone in the room overheard him say shithole\"",
"Keep this trash on r/politics",
"I don't think you know how taxes work. I have an buddy that is a DACA kid, he very much pays taxes. ",
"Typical Trumpster. Demonizing good feelings.\n\nYou must be awesome at parties.",
"Fuck this world lol, fuck it all, we're all retards",
" >Why couldn't a literate, hard working Haitian immigrate?\n\nLook up what a merit based system of immigration is. It’s replaces the lottery system we have so that way we can have literate, educated people come into the country.\n\nIt’s what’s the president wants and is pushing.",
">but what about THIS DISTRACTING THING.\n",
"*quickly rates you 5 stars and hope you do the same*",
"> \"Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here? Why do we need more Haitians? Take them out.” \n\nLooks pretty black and white to me.",
"An HIV infested shit on the street (because they banned plastic bags) echo chamber. ",
"You mean someone on reddit would intentionally misrepresent a situation to make a political attack? u/cpet72 what say you. Wow, he flat out got gilded by being a lying asshole. ",
"Maybe so, but how would he know that he's found the right story? Too many times, I've been told to google something and come back with the wrong result. It's just not worth it. If you want someone to read something specific, just send them a link. Google should be a last resort for when no one involved in the conversation knows about the thing you want to know about.",
"Nah. You just want an ethnostate.\n\nYou know we can read your post history, right?",
"> He is a massive embarrassment to the USA, and a ~~dark~~ shitstain unworthy of his office.\n\nFTFY\n\n",
"That's not what sarcasm is though",
"Apart from emotion, that paragraph you wrote is hollow. You guys are acting like a bunch of spoilt children! Our country has so much good done for it in the past year. . Tax cuts, record low unemployment (historic lows for Hispanic and African Americans) , record high stock market growth, ISIS which controlled large parts of multiple countries reduced to rubble, we were hit with multiple natural disasters and yet recovered strongly, North Korea and South Korea are talking for the first time in years! \n\nBut. . You cry and throw a fit and chastise anyone who cares to find these achievements commendable. Come on! For once, stop being immature and outraged all the time. . .youre just alienating the vast majority of Americans who aren’t militant in their political views.",
"How is this sarcastic?",
"/r/mildyinfuriating",
"If you believe it was a freak accident, he should have been charged with involuntary manslaughter.\n\nBut if you do believe that, you're naive. You don't just find a gun under a bench, inspect it, and have it automatically fire. Real life isn't the movies. Guns don't go off on their own. I can believe he fired it randomly, but he absolutely did fire the gun of his own volition. ",
"Wake up. If there was anything to the Russia Story he’d be out already. ",
"Everything is about race. It's truly a disgusting time we live in",
"Yeah when I was in highschool I thought George Bush was an idiot, looking back theres no way to measure it without admitting I was wrong",
"This was all over the news for at least a week. It was a huge story and recent. \n\nIt's also not just *the* top result, it's *all* the top results.",
"So glad he isn't our shithole president with the dead rat strapped to his head",
"How is it racist? Who mentioned race? You're the only one in the conversation equating the words \"shithole countries\" with race. That's racist.\n\nIt's an uncomfortable truth, but some countries are shitholes and it's to do with **corrupt governments, flawed economic practices, lack of education, and shitty policies that take the means of production from the people.**\n\n**These are the criteria for shithole countries. Nothing to do with race.**\n\nYou're basically arguing \"Why wouldn't you want immigrants from a shithole country? Sure, they have no trade skills and little education so we'll have to teach them to do everything non shithole nations teach their citizens to do. That should only cost a few billion a year.\"\n\nSomeone else says, \"why not take immigrants from a non shithole country like Norway?\n\nYou argument is: that's racist. Even though you're the only one talking about race.\n\n#racist left - \"When I hear \"people from shithole countries\" I immediately think people of color. Trump is such a racist.\"\n\n#racist left - \"black people are too poor and stupid to get an ID\"\n\nhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE",
"Especially since he is intentionally misrepresenting the situation. By who cares right? Feelings over reality!",
"So you bring up a irrelevant quote that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.\n\nWho’s the child again?",
"The consequences were a trial where he was acquitted ",
"now I know where Rockstar North got the idea for that one mission in GTA - Vice City ~~San Andreas~~ from",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k2g/san_francisco_federal_building/dsm5kjl/",
"Especially when there is partisan outrage to be had. Can't let any opportunities to discredit the other side slip away.",
"All the liberals came together and said \"let's let in a bunch of illegal immigrants, give them guns and force them to murder us\".",
"I'm not a Trump supporter, but [this is certainly an interesting read.](https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/63nxsn/update_i_was_tired_of_liberals_saying_trump_hasnt/)\n\nI literally searched \"list\" and sorted by top. This was one of the top posts. Is that not something \"thoroughly cited\" that they did?",
"Only 1.3 mooches into the year",
"The quality almost makes it seem like it was professionally set up. Really makes you think.",
"They probably aren't intelligent enough to understand what you're writing. Try to dumb it down for them and use simpler words.",
"Allow me to disabuse you: I understood.\n\nIf you are unable to respect that the individuals who participate in TD are reddit users like yourself, with opinions of their own, like yourself, and their own motivations and reasons for participating and posting in communities other than TD (like yourself)...\n\nThen that, sadly, is your failing, and not theirs. You are the one with the small mind.",
"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/every-moment-donald-trumps-long-complicated-history-race\n\nMeanwhile your source has a political cartoon of Trump murdering liberals. \n\nCLASSY ",
"Alright, I'm done here, it's obvious you lack the ability to read in between the lines and see your own thoughts* for what they really are. Bye.",
"Give it time, Trump is just warming up",
"Eating a healthy amount of fiber and staying away from really spicy foods will give you a happy shithole. ",
"> Because accidental shootings aren't automatically enough for manslaughter, and the prosecution couldn't prove that accidentally firing a gun pointed at the ground was enough to meet the legal bar for manslaughter\n\nAccidentally discharging a weapon (and to be clear guns do not accidentally fire) in a crowded pier is definitely grounds for involuntary manslaughter. There's no way around that logically, unless you want to virtue signal for illegal immigration. \n\nWe're not talking about someone getting shot from a stray bullet fired from a rancher's rifle out in the woods on private property with the population density of Russian wilderness. It's a fucking crowded pier. If you so much as have a weapon drawn without cause you should be jailed. Let alone fired it. (And again guns do not fire themselves). ",
"Id give this gold if I could afford it.",
"They're not wrong, San Francisco is a shit hole and Trump is the president over that shit hole so......",
"The vast majority of the time it doesn't even make national news when someone accidentally kills someone with a firearm. ",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k2g/_/dsm5pc1",
"Of murder, not of accidentally discharging a firearm. ",
"We agree. And please, not all of us consider him \"our president\". He's a stain on this nation and should be pressure washed from history. ",
"It's hard to deny that he is controlling the narrative. It's also very likely he's doing it deliberately, but that doesn't mean he's a genius manipulator or even remotely smart...or that he's not suffering from dementia (It's clear he's drastically changed from the early 2000's)\n\nA headline drops \"Trump campaign official's guilty of being terrible people\", he get's angry and wants to be reassured everything is fine and turns on Fox News. Fox News is showing discredited stories which are either positive for him, claim the Russia investigation is a witch hunt or say something negative about Hilary Clinton, but they don't make it to the mainstream channels because they're made up, so not real stories. When he Tweets about them, they become news that the other channels can cover. He's their source, even if the story is \"President believe something ridiculous\", it still gets people talking about something other than what it was that was upsetting him earlier. He's learned that going on Twitter and Tweeting a conspiracy theory changes the subject.\n\nIt doesn't take any level of intelligence and will harm him in the long run, but he's only able to think about what's happening here and now. He doesn't appear to have the capability to judge an action on a time scale longer than a few days.",
"Because it doesn't affect them. They live in their own little happy world while the majority of the people live with the real problems.",
"r/crappydesign",
"No, the San Francisco in Spain. /s",
"He isn't the president of haiti though.",
"I felt the same way about the original comment.",
"entropy and decay, Homie... entropy and decay.\n\nafter utilising macabre decor for the better part of my life i just learned a term i am suprised i had never heard before... Memento Mori. latin: remember, you die too. \n\ni realized why we didn't host Christmas this year. my Grandpa is about to pass and my Mother didn't want to bring him to a Death Dealer's house. \n\ntime is indeed weird.",
"His moron sons all smiles. Totally clueless like Madoff’s kids. It’s going to be amazing to watch them all end up in jail or killing themselves from the anxiety of facing lengthy sentences. Soft ass silver spoon douchebags ",
"The whole city is a literal shit hole. Homeless people don’t have bathrooms. \n\nAt least in India there’s a designated street. ",
"r/murderedbywords",
"Haha, you are pretty funny, you know that? Keep hiding behind the internet buddy.",
"He’ll get re-elected. Imagine the lefty meltdown when that happens.......just imagine ",
"And?",
"When did he mention race? You are making things up just to slander someone",
"The Aardman characters graffiti next to the Raddison Blu are nice as well.",
"You could probably offer that, but as a developer - and not an enterpreneur who wants to be married with his job - in a steady job with good paycheck and benefits, my only real risks are my own health and if Finland plummets into depression and I lose my job, in which case I prefer the 100% free health care and social benefits-to-all systems of Finland, to yours.\n\nNot being a capitalist country, not having a a bible belt, not having batshit insane president and not having a shitty type of government with just either/or parties helps make the choice easier, too. ..and don't even get me started on second amendment. A country where getting a weapon is easier than a drivers license has it's priorities backwards.\n\nThen again, sometimes I hate living in a country where the air I breathe hurts my face in the winter. Luckily it's only a 200m walk to the office, and I guess, if this is my biggest gripe, things here are pretty good.",
"Alright, Walmart",
"A shame that a witty projected insult is the most protest the U.S. people offer this maniac. \n\nAnd I mean shame in the most insulting - queen Cersei chased through the streets kind of way possible. \n\nI’ll get downvoted to oblivion for this, but look me in the eye and tell me you don’t secretly hope somebody does something about this. You know something has to be done but YOU have no responsability, right? Right?\n\nYour countries name is dragged through the dirt on a daily basis - in just 140 characters or less. And you let it happen. Your countries political connection with the outside world is getting knowingly weakened by your administration and you let it happen. \n\nThe land of the free is looking like the land of the scared. And I blame every one of you for doing nothing about it. \n\nHow can you live with this gigantic disconnect between how your country is run and how your own values? I know, it can always be worse, but you are the U.S.A god damnit, the self proclaimed staple of democracy. Eat your heart out Alanis Morisette.\n\nDoing nothing here because that orange clown was elected is not democracy. And if I’m honest your whole two party system looks nothing like democracy. Is there one American that isn’t in politics that doesn’t feel disconnected from it?\n\nI think you’re hiding behind glory of past days. I always thought he finger from Uncle Sam looked more like a reproach than as a question, guess know we know why.",
"Just don't pay attention to it. I followed the election and first couple months after closely. But then it just became to overwhelming all the time. I wake up, go to work, do social activities, etc. All the same as when Obama was president. The media just hypes everything to where you would think the world is ending when in reality not much is changing",
"Butthole.",
"> fire off multiple rounds near a crowd of people. \n \nHe didn't fire multiple rounds, he fired one. He said he fired multiple rounds in a police interview where he claimed he was over a 140 years old, and was standing five feet from the girl when she was hit. \n \nThe defense, prosecution, and witnesses all agree he fired the gun once, and was standing nearly a 100 ft away from her when she was struck. ",
"Yeah, because majority is so subjective. Dumas. ",
"Is there anything in this image to suggest anyone there is Antifa? No? I'm sorry, did you have a point you were trying to make because I can't find it. \n",
"> The only people acting like a child are the ones in San Fran.\n\nehm, no. Trump has been acting like a bigoted child for decades. Just because you're one of his fanboys and you feel sad when you hear that fact doesn't make it false. The US has become a laughing stock.",
"If by parasitic welfare base you mean people suffering and dying from preexisting conditions because they can't afford treatment or their prescriptions because we're one of the only major countries in the world that doesn't negotiate drug prices, then sure. Doing a great job proving Trump supporters aren't idiots btw. /s",
" #veryfakenews",
"Don Jr. looks psyched.",
"How did Trump shit on the American Dream? he just passed a bill that gave every American more of their money back. That's perhaps the most powerful way to promote the dream. ",
"Waaaaaaaambulance",
"Down here, salt is a way of life ",
"February is the Tuesday of the months. ",
"Meanwhile your own source corroborates mine, and affirms my position. Congratulations, you played yourself.\n\n(As to the cartoon, I don't see it, which means it was adblocked/noscripted.)\n\nEdit: To forstall \"lol unthinking zealot\"-type comments: to me, a great number of his supposed-racist actions are the actions of the ruthless businessman type trying any and every angle to achieve his ends. I wouldn't say the motivation is racist. I wouldn't say it's behavior to emulate. I also laugh at the attribution that Donald Trump started birtherism, when that originated in the Hillary Clinton campaign: https://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/",
"It's not tho. This is why Trump is the president.",
"Get out of here with logic and reason. (And facts) ",
"> It's what's the president wants and is pursuing.\n\nSource?",
"> That comment was of course alluding to the leftist myth of the Russian hacking scandal.\n\nWhat comment? The one Trump made about the election being rigged when he thought he was going to lose on the campaign trail? Because the right were eating that up. Trump even said \"It's rigged, unless I win\" which was actually just hilarious. ",
"He was in private, for fuck sake. Every President dropped their perfect Presidential facade when in private company. There's nothing abnormal about that, if he even said it (which he denies). ",
"I’m not your shithole, fella",
"Time to change the word president?",
"And just like that, they forgot about Mike wolf's book. ",
"Well now we're getting into what ifs. What if i had millions of dollars? I wouldn't be fucking working right now that's for sure.\n\nI agree, lots of countries are shit holes but knowing it and saying it are two different things. Especially when in the position he is in. He's the leader and needs to have some tact and him not watching how he speaks doesn't make him The Donald, it makes him a shitty person with shit excuses to act like a 5 year old.",
"Looking at OP's post history he is Indian South Africa so not sure but yeah you can pretty much say anything as long as it isn't racist because then it is illegal. So not sure what that guy is saying, our media constantly goes after politicians and people and people talk shit all the time!! ",
"Just say it, “liberals think the south is a shithole”. At least Trump doesn’t hide his disdain. ",
"Still YOUR president ",
"do you think im against immigration? ",
"new to reddit, i take it? two longstanding memes. The Einstein one is miscredited quotes, the \"fuck off\" one is just reddit doing what reddit do. ",
"Yup, the Republican party is awash in dirty money and they all know it, that's why [they're retiring in record numbers](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/10/republicans-retiring-in-record-numbers-fuel-fears-of-losing-house-at-midterms) ahead of Mueller blowing the whole thing wide open. Well, that and the impending electoral massacre.",
"It's really crazy, man. It's a strange time to live in where the president of the USA is so openly derided. That the USA even has a president like that. ",
"Mr Lahey would've loved it. Shitty this & shitty that. ",
"> Haiti. Is. A. Shit. Hole. No one moves there. No one vacations there. No one wants to be there. People that live there don’t like it. He’s stating a fact and his choice of words were poor.\n\nSir, this is reddit. You're not allowed to use reason and logic (and talking about honor before that? REEEEEE!!). \n\nPlease remove your post, or the authorities will be at your door tomorrow morning. ",
"Assuming you are American, I assure you that presidents and national politics have had an effect on you, whether you have noticed or not.",
"It's pronounced shi-th-o-lay.",
"Your emotional opinion amounts to nothing. No amount of immature insults or name calling will get you the response you want.\n\nSit down. Be humble. And think about what you’ve just learned.",
"Ahh San Francisco. Never change",
"Agreed, that he is controlling the narrative, but not by design, was my point.\n\nI disagree that it is \"very likely he's doing it deliberately\", we will have to differ on that.\n\nI think he just says what comes to mind, and makes headlines, because he has zero filter.",
"Yeah being left-handed, my left is usually tired after Valentine's day",
"Taking a stroll through Stokes park to appreciate the culture - there's a thing on the wall that says \"Stokes Croft cultural quarter\" ",
"So many pansies, so little air for them to breathe.",
"I gave up and moved to China...it’s pretty great here but even Chinese people who don’t speak any English default to how stupid America’s President is when they ask where I’m from. What were people thinking voting for such a moron? ",
"Kate Steinle ",
"Yeap, calling out the lame circle jerk. ",
"So is the country that choose to have such a poor leader a shithole too or is the process that led to it being president shithole? Which is it and what is the USA going to do about its shittiness?",
"https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-backs-raise-act/",
"If you was trans Id give you a noble prize #sobrave",
">This was all over the news for at least a week.\n\nThat depends on what news you watch. I saw it pop up for about a day, mostly because of Trump's response to it. Not everyone lives in your bubble. Other people live in their own bubbles. I always thought that everyone knew how to pronounce Oregon until I left my bubble and found out that most of the east coast pronounces it wrong.",
"Constitutional privileges; beautiful \"shithole\" presidential display. \n\nSan Francisco 2018 ",
"Oh anti trump is very welcome on popular, oh dare you have something pro trump on popular.... you are so biased by the corrupt media...",
"Step 1. dig hole\nStep 2. Shit in hole",
"I can hear Jimmy Carr's laugh already",
"Those people are morons. \n\nThis is like saying Hillary Clinton was controlling the media narrative after her emails leaked.",
"Another anti trump post on popular! Reddit is not a place for free speech ",
"I mean, I'm legitimately curious why it's okay for the guy in TN but not for the guy in San Francisco. ",
"Careful, you'll overload the Democrat's circuitry. Their cognitive dissonance subroutines can only tolerate so much. ",
"Hahahahaha Jesus Christ, I #notall'd you, and you still made the strawman \"not everyone\" argument. What is to be done with your ilk? ",
"What a time to be alive! ",
"Over the years working as a mover I sometimes get hired to help someone in the armed forces. Whether they be DSS, JAG, Marine, or an Army Ranger, they have been to the shitiest parts of our planet, and they all, on their own when I ask, confirm that most of this planet is a raging shithole. Its cute that people want to be all offended and make a little art project to protest, but the reality is those same people would be slaughtered for meat in some corners of our world. ",
"The fact that you found something about Trump displeasing is a good sign. As for the rest of your comment it is hopeless and illogical.\n\nDon't bother responding, I don't care that much. Killfiled.",
"TIL you have to live in a perfect city with no homeless people to have the right to mock the president.\n/s",
"Indeed he has. Don't worry about all the crying, things are going great so far!\n\n",
"Mexico is a shithole. San Fran should know this.",
"You tell me why it's okay for the guy in TN but not for the guy in San Francisco. ",
"what is I was trans but now not? penis re-attached?",
"to be fair, Haiti is a shithole and before anyone says otherwise please post your dream summer getaway in Haiti... you know, since the naysayers aren't a bunch of fucking hypocrites.",
"That was 10 years ago in Australia. You should hear the words we're using now.",
"We're talking about South Africa because u/obtrae is from there. He's claiming that criticizing the president there will get you killed, by the government or government affiliates presumibly. You then jumped on that to say a country without freedom of expression is a shithole, I quote:\n\n\"How dare you call a nation, where freedom of expression idoesn't exist, a shithole?\"\n\nThe problem is, the statement you based this off is untrue, and anyone who pays even the slightest bit of attention to news from South Africa would know that. Zuma is a very controversial figure and is criticized frequently. ",
"That is total bullshit you definitely heard on tv without looking at the stats. Nice try tho, you seem so convincing.",
">That depends on what news you watch\n\nNPR and CNN? I saw this on Fox too. It was everywhere and all over social media.",
"Boy, this escalates quickly. I like it.",
"They *would* be murdered if there weren't actual patriots around who place their loyalty in the constitution and not a man. The elements in our government that oppose trumpism are literally the only thing keeping him from going full fascist.",
"You should at least try to be coherent when you're astroturfing ",
"Es una kickass song de una kickass band",
"> Ok, and someone died as a direct result of him illegally owning a gun, so he should pay for BOTH comes\n \nThat's not how that works. You're not more guilty of crime X because you committed crime Y. The charges are independent. \n\n \n>murder an innocent person. \n \nHe murdered someone by ricocheting a bullet nearly a 100 feet away? Damn he must have some good aim. \n \n \n>You fucking dumbass.\n \nLol bye, if you can't be civil you don't get to play. \n\n",
"People are really getting butthurt about this whole shithole thing aren't they..",
"Pay attention. I'm not the person you were originally talking to. I was only pointing out that you were the one person in that conversation who sees the words \"shithole countries\" and immediately thinks of race. While trying to accuse someone else of being racist, no less.\n\nNow you're refusing to acknowledge that you're the one being racist so you're going to insult me and run away. Pathetic. Try some self reflection, maybe then you won't be so racist and hateful.",
"an 18 year old illegal immigrant rapes a 14 year old and you care about the source",
"What was objectively wrong about calling those countries shitholes? He’s factually correct they are indeed shitholes lmao ",
"Is world war 3 going to happen in 2018? ",
"Swear this site is filled with children lol",
"Right in the pussy",
"Employment, stock market are just continuing the trend started under the Obama administration.\n\nAs for ISIS, Trump has done nothing but continue the strategy begun under the previous administration.\n\nNatural disasters? Did Trump enact some policy that changed the way the nation has responded to these events for decades? Maybe it was the paper towel throwing in PR thats made the difference.\n\nMost American are just hoping Trump doesn't fuck shit up.",
"So... neither have an effect, but for some reason, only one action is childish...",
"Thank you for this. Even the news sources I trusted not to get wrapped up in stupid shit like this have failed me. I'll look into it.",
"Yeah, why can't those damn liberals make homelessness illegal so we don't have to know it exists?",
"You know, for all the shit that Trump rains down upon the world in general, it’s worth remembering that you have the freedom to be able to do stuff like this without major repurcussions.\n\nThis stuff, whilst some find it offensive, and others consider freedom of expression, is inherently *good*. It should be valued and sacrosanct.",
"That is actually the exact date of this year's Chinese New Year.",
"You want to know the real shithole? America. For letting such ignorance stay in the US. Seriously guys idc what side your on when people expect free everything. Take offence to anything. And use violence against someone just because your emotions have no adult in to it.. we are the shithole country...",
"You specified federal immigration law ",
"Not American here but I cant believe the level of disrespect coming from the left towards their president, could you imagine if the right rioted, screamed abuse in the streets, made up false rumors and allegations, and threatened to kill Obama in his presidency the world would have been in a state of utter shock. But no one did those things so why is it okay for liberals to do the same to Trump just because they dont like the man or his policies, use your votes as your voice people not violence.",
"Tried and true",
"Just like your lame boring comment ..... ",
"Funny you say that, 4chan has been right more often than the MSM and they love destroying antifa. ",
"Not necessarily *the* Valentine's Day, just one of them",
"A trial isn't a consequence, and you know it. Stop using arguments you yourself don't believe in.",
"It's the thought that counts, thank you !",
"I used to like toupee jokes about Trump then I heard his hair is the result of an operation. An operation so painful that he attacked and raped his (now ex) wife, because he blamed her for recommending the surgeon to him. Now I wish he wore a toupee.",
"Price is Right losing horn.",
"how will he ever recover",
"/r/pics, does P stand for politisssssss",
"Wait, you agree but don't see his point? Then why are you agreeing? Don't think too much, do you?\n\nIn any event, the point is that immigration policy should have been better enforced so that he wasn't allowed to re-enter so many times. But I think \"enforcing immigration\" is considered racist now, like [milk is racist, the outdoors is racist, and math is racist too](https://grumpysloth.com/10-ridiculous-things-labeled-racist-2017/).",
"Technically speaking, neither Hillary nor Trump got a majority of the country.",
"Twice as brave you poor soul here have an African child as a present.",
"People cry about him on a personal level.\nMy old boss was a piece of shit. But he did wonders for the company.\nI dont know much being australian.\nBut it seems the same in america with trump. So a long time ago he was a young rich guy that could do things and get away with it that some people didnt like. That doesnt mean he cant do well for america?\nI havent heard of any good reasons of people not to follow him yet. They are always little personal things that dont mean anything.\n\nI actually wonder if he purposefully trolls with some of the things he says so liberals have something to grasp onto and cry about.",
"Well that's no less than he deserves for courting literal Nazis.",
"The fake approval ratings that always oversample dims ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.",
"If your unable to handle adult words and instead devolve into a hissy fit over it then yes, one is childish while the other is not.",
"San Francisco is a shit hole",
"What kind of bar is it?",
"This sounds like something that needs to happen to Trump.",
"Ok, you did say 'a large swathe' of the population. I guess that's okay to marginalize, as long as it's less than half. You are still an ignorant hypocritical sjw dbag. ",
"Don't give up, together we will make America great again!",
"Senator lied because he's deranged by hatred and wants his cheap immigrant slave labor or else we have to shut down everything.",
"Happy new shithole to you too!",
"Watch your fucking mouth!",
"i think that a persons home country does determine why they are immigrating. i mean, could you ever see a norwegian trying to migrate here because he has no clean drinking water? i feel like you arent getting the top 5% from the third world countries, youre getting people who have it the worst. sorry, id still rather have a doctor from western europe or asia compared to africa/south america/ eastern europe. i am also super tired so if i said something confusing ykno",
"You didn’t even try to refute his points lmao ",
"False dichotomy ",
"Yes I did. Thanks for your observation.",
"Enlighten? Sounds scary.",
"Well it is the worlds capital of graffiti. And the only place where graffiti is encouraged in certain areas. ",
"No, but maybe World War Z",
"Could be the name of a night club anywhere...",
"Well someone did, so what's your point?",
"An ill informed hope. Republicans hurt the bottom line of everyone except the extrnely wealthy. They pay for tax cuts to the middle class by taking away even more money from other programs that save middle class family's money.",
"...because premiums increasing by double and triple digit percent year over year is more affordable, yes? Because companies leaving the exchanges so that they're not even selling insurance is excellent, yes? Because helping a small subset of the population at the extreme cost of the rest of it is excellent, yes?\n\nLose the emotional appeal and consider the facts as they exist. The affordable care act is not affordable, not sustainable, and will collapse under its own weight, as originally written.",
"I believe you would see it all over Fox. NPR I would expect it to show up for a day at most. CNN I could probably see, just because they have to fill time. The real gem of your post though is your mention of social media. Social media is the bubbliest of bubbles when it comes to information spread. What you see is entirely dependent on who you're friended or subscribed to, so if all your friends are conservative, that would make a lot of sense.",
"> that doesn't mean the people are shit\n\nBut I think that IS what Trump meant. \n\nThey were talking about immigration, people from other countries coming to the US. If it were the other way around, Americans going to other countries, then yeah, you can say \"I wouldn't go there, it's a shithole country.\" You can be talking about the place but not the people.\n\nBut when you're talking about people from those countries coming here, why does the shitholeness of those countries matter? You're not there, you don't have to deal with the shithole place. The only reason to bring it up is if you were referring to the people from those countries.",
"Comment of the year, right here ^^^",
"enjoy your homeless hordes",
"I am glad you can admit you are unsuccessful and full of hate. That's the first step in getting help.",
"So basically r/pics has become a constant Trump-bashing forum... How original.",
"So with the exception of giving himself, the wealthy, and corporations tax cuts— You’ll have to explain to me how Trump had anything to do with the rest of that. \n\nAny Economic “wins” you’re claiming are a continuation of the upwards trajectory put in place during the previous administration which managed to save the country from The Great Recession. Nothing Trump has done could have effected the market in a serious way yet. Same goes for unemployment. \n\nI imagine Trump’s plan to reduce unemployment looks something like this:\n\nStep 1- Kick out a bunch of people I don’t like\n\nStep 2- Keep doing step 1 until it works. \n\nPlease inform Puerto Rico of the great job Trump has done repairing the damage in a few more months when they have basic utilities back on line. Im sure there could be a few survivors left to hear you. ",
"Then why is your president boasting them?",
"They ARE shithole countries. Otherwise people living in those shithole countries wouldn’t be so desperately willing to leave them to come to the U.S. \n\nThe diversity visa lottery program judges people on their country of origin alone—even though it shouldn’t. But it does. This being the case, you cannot pretend all countries will produce equally assimilateable citizens. Some immigrants will adapt better to American ideals than others, e.g. South Koreans vs Russians. \n\nIt’s not the nicest way to put it, but grow the fuck up, people. It’s simply a metaphorical description for the countries’ political and economic realities.\n\nOf course, both the left and the right—more the left lately—will distort to their benefit anything the opposing side does. ",
"Wanna see a shithole city? Find any one run by democrats. ",
"Life wears me out. This country will survive trumpfest.",
"Yes, their \"behavior\".",
"On the 20th my friend, i only know this because my birthday has always been inauguration day! xD",
"\"Oh fuck.\"",
">should be pressure washed from history\n\nYeah no, that doesn't seem like a good idea. ",
"🇷🇺 🐙 You are on the money.\n\n0.00001234 bch u/tippr",
"Well, that's the story, anyways.",
"Ha ha ha so original.",
"Sure, but the terminology matters, which is why Trump’s use of ‘shithole’ is just obscene",
"Thank you.",
"The problem is that Trump country is so sparsely populated that you could do it on a church somewhere and maybe a few hundred people would see it if you're lucky.",
"This comment just made my Day🤣🤣",
"[We've tried](https://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/news/anc-slated-over-anti-zuma-billboard-incitement-1972162) - even though free speech is guaranteed in our constitution, they just end up calling it 'encitement to violence' or 'hate speech' and go on a social media campaign urging their supporters to take it down.\n\nThe good news is with every election, his party does slightly worse, losing more and more ground - we're hoping 2019 will finally be the year where they get voted out.",
"The literal definition of a bigot is a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. It would be ignorant to say this is purely right sided, the left is just as guilty. Furthermore those who voted for Trump did vote for change just as liberals did for Obama in 2008. The difference is Trump has brought tremendous positive change to this country’s economy and military strength, where the US will not be taken for granted anymore, even though he’s very unpolished and crude A LOT! It’s disturbing that democrats seem to refuse to say so because that would give Trump credit. As if they’d rather the economy fail miserably. Even though Trump can’t spin a positive news cycle without tweeting something that gets him in trouble, as long as he’s getting results, his base won’t budge.\nWhat people feel about Trump doesn’t matter to those who voted for him either, they want to see strength and security in their country, not people crying and screaming at the sky because they don’t agree with the election results (definition of bigotry again). Conservative voters also realize as well your given a life and you’re not entitled to anything. \n\nYour idea of electoral system updates does sound intriguing however, I would need to read up on how that works in other first world countries, but I don’t know how you would even introduce that into the US, you think either party would risk losing control? Haha.",
"I'm not your shithole, cunt.",
"Hey now, the Bible belt had the best chicken & biscuits!",
"... or it could have just been, you know, like a joke.",
"I have done ok in life and my friend group is $60,000-$1,000,000 a year earners. I am always amazed how many of them vote simply with the hopes of saving a few bucks in the tax bill.",
"LOL imagine actually believing this. Mueller has come up empty on everything except for what amounts to quadruple hearsay. \nThere’s no evidence of ties to the mafia.\nFucking over contractors is not an impeachable offence. \nHe didn’t ‘want to lose’ if he successfully pulled off the biggest political upset in history. \nMan I don’t even like trump that much but the shit his opposition comes up with is just laughable",
"I'm talking about reddit and twitter dude. And NPR talked about this for at least a week. Watching you rationalize not keeping up with the news as me being conservative is extremely entertaining. I love watching how people justify their shortcomings.",
"Better than that loud buffoon staying",
"Shithole town in a shithole state",
"Left wingers denying shithole countries exist is the first gift of 2018",
"Everything else about it could pretty much go though, right?",
"So edgy. ",
"For fuck's sake man\n\n\"if you can't get here legally, it's because you're here to do some illegal shit.\"\n\nYes, the initial act is illegal. What this sentence implies is that the immigrants came here in order to do further illegal shit. And then the next guy defended this specific statement with nothing else than \"reddit is liberal\". \n\n\"If you can't get here legally, it's because you're here to do illegal shit\". \n\nRead it again. This is pretty unambiguous in meaning. Here's another motivation, they come from a poor, unsafe environment. Most of them haven't come here with the intention of doing illegal shit. This is just more \"rapist and murderers\" right wing claptrap. ",
"Huh, I guess you're also bad at math to mix up the number one with numbers greater than one. You're dumb, buddy.",
"Real world has what that move lacked, villain ",
"I was not aware /u/obtrae is from South Africa. There are various democratic norms which aren't found in various african nations. Since /u/obtrae referenced freedom of expression, I commented about that. Had he wrote about how we can't get rid of our corrupt dictator, i would have used that to comment. You should take offence at him for not knowing about his own country's freedom of expression. Besides Zuma has made a mockery of your constitution. There are shitloads of issues with african nations beyond FoE. https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/ev5v7n/this-nonprofit-caters-to-whites-in-post-apartheid-south-africa\n\nOther african nations are worse than SA. The girl in the pic is from south sudan which is riddled with tribal warfare. ",
"https://trumptracker.github.io/\nGood thing I have this handy little thing instead",
"No reading comprehension.",
"Vice City, unless it also happened in San Andreas? Never finished that one.",
"Ironic. He could save others from typography errors, but not himself. ",
"so you're xenophobic of out of towners?",
"No thats the provable reality. These are real numbers and metrics that can be tracked and measured. The \"story\" is that republicans have managed to convince their base to treat all facts as opinions, and that all opinions are equally valid.",
"Just had a look at your history, I very much doubt you do, and even if you did, no one would speak honestly to you as you are as much of a bully as your hero. ",
"No, what I meant is that if all instances like these are removed from history then people are not going to learn from their mistakes. I mean, the Germans elected Hitler, did we erase him from history? No, that would just be stupid.",
"Why isn't this tagged with \"us politics\"?",
"He’s #1 in embarrassing stupidity but that’s about it",
" Meta\n mEta \n meTa\n metA \n\nEdit: looked way cooler on mobile.\n\n",
"He \"shit on the American dream\" by not providing more free handouts to people that don't want to contribute to society. Evil!",
"Who gives a fuck what the rest of the world thinks? This is the selfie and social media age for you, where everything hinges on how you appear rather than what you do. And no shit the world would love that great pretender Obama and America when we was president. The guy was style over substance and brain-dead idiots the world over eat that shit up like biscuits and gravy.",
"until you start talking about traps and non BLM and feminist issues....\n\nthen you better watch your back.",
"Basically",
"Interesting from a city circling the drain. ",
"Considering one was an accident by a law abiding citizen of the US and the other was someone shooting into a crowd who was not legally allowed to have gun and was not legally allowed to be in the country.\n\nAnd no it did not ricochet that is the biggest bullshit excuse ever. The guy fired into a crowd of people.\n\nLet me look into the Tennessee one because I do not know about it. But IMO guns do not accidentally fire unless manufacture defect.",
"So the latest tax bill only helped the very wealthy, raised taxes on the middle class and poor, and is otherwise absolutely, positively horrible?\n\nThis is what you believe?",
"WHAT?! Its the fucking president for crying out loud.",
"fake news, this \"shithole\" comment is from anonymous source and already claimed it was untrue. You guys are spreading propaganda. That is all",
"But, but.. CNN said so! /s",
"...All of them?",
"Adults would have elected a real president",
"See this is an interesting fact not many people are aware of, but the US president actually owes nothing to these countries",
"I always thought it was a teepee. Though exactly how he was planning to get it up there beats me.\n\n...And now, having googled TP, it makes more sense.",
"They're not a piece of shit, they do come from a shithole though.",
"\"Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo, he loves me, Your A Shithole\"",
"[For reference](http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/31/article-0-0AFADE29000005DC-72_634x487.jpg)",
"How about the way that cares about climate change, renewable energy, net neutrality, helping people get health care, legalizing marijuana, fixing income inequality, and has members that act like actual adults ",
"Needs more penis",
"And doesn't live there anymore.",
"Atleast you live in a free non shithole country that you can do this without being put in jail. ",
"Many of use used to feel that way. YOu should join Our Revolution! ",
"> turned into\n\n",
"You are so wrong about everything\nHave have you lasted this long ",
"Be honest here, the system worked fine up until It didn't go the democrat's way. Nobody was calling for it until they lost, now suddenly it's a problem?\n\nThere are no chances for 4-5 parties, there isn't even 2 parties. The same people have been in control, Trump was allowed to go as far as he did because they set him up to lose to Hillary. They WANTED him to win nomination because they had the access Hollywood tape on him to be revealed at any time to crush him.\n\nIT BACKFIRED BIGTIME and now this is why you see ENDLESS shilling to have him impeached and the entire politics board and most of reddit bought and paid for. The media is just another arm of the power structure and it's been used for maximum impact every dam day to control what you people think, lucky people are waking up. ",
"*Confirmed by people who were there.",
"President of the USA, the United Shithole Association",
"There's a lot of sweet summer vacation places in Haiti you moron. If you're going to say stupid shit please think about it first.\n\nMine would probably be at the Kaliko Beach Club in Carries. It's off the cost of the Canal de Saint Marc.",
"Chill, sorry for the assumption, I think the chap makes a valid point. \n\nBefore trump the USA did get a modicum of respect from world leaders, now they have to condemn. ",
"Been thoroughly enjoying the butt-hurt and media meltdown following this story. \n\nHe waited a day while the left was losing their shit about it, and then denied it, which made them talk about it for another whole day. \n\nThe media and left are cats and Trump's Twitter is a laser pointer. \n\nMost hilarious president of all time. Pisses off all the right assholes. ",
"It's perfectly OK for the left to throw temper tantrums because the ends justify the means.",
"Hahahahaha 2/2 Jesus!!! 2/2 people made a #notall argument after wrote #notall on my comment. I was making fun of you people, then you did exactly what I was making fun of. I appreciate I'm being a dick, but c'mon man.\n\nEdit: Oh, and congratulations, you've worked out the world is not fair, what does that have to do with anything? Nation State borders exist to guarantee rights to those within the state. This is inherently exclusionary, and is how the world works. It's also the fairest way to do things right now to prevent things being taken from people who have earned them.",
"Nah...just a comb-over. ",
"Can someone project this in a supermarket on the isle where they sells Cheetos.",
"It makes the shithole comment all the more inappropriate.",
"As long as the criticism is reasonable and not denying reality (i.e. that shitholes exist)",
"What a meme",
"So I’m gonna level with you here because I don’t absolutely despise Trump supporters. I was one myself once. But I do want to ask you an honest question here - why do you believe in this man anymore? \n\nI’m setting aside his political alignment, and even if he is a genius like you believe, why do you want to the leader of your country acting like this? Don’t you want someone who is going to do what you want them to do but not also make a complete mockery of your country while they do it? He may have a brilliant master plan of exactly how to control the media, but this is your president. Why is he even spending time on his this? Rather than spending an incredible amount of taxpayer money (ie: your money) tweeting about Hillary or this that and the other thing, golfing, or god knows whatelse he does, why not spend it on things that actually matter?\n\nEverything you’ve listed has been disputed enough times that nobody here is going to entertain the idea. And neither will I. For someone who has been in office for a full year, Trump has accomplished very little while his approval rate plummeted. You can cry fake news all you want, his approval is below 40 which is abysmal for someone in their first term.\n\nThe Republican Party leadership is failing you, and you can only pretend it’s not happening for so long.",
"Nope, just projected it to one side of his computer.",
"And do you think a president should use such wording?\n\nBesides, who does he think he is to dismiss entire countries as 'shitholes'? This is disgustingly racist.",
"Do you presume to criticize the Great Oz? You ungrateful creatures! \nThink yourselves lucky that I'm giving you\nan audience tomorrow, instead of twenty years from now! Oh! The\nGreat Oz has spoken!\nOh! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.",
"You're shocked. Fine. I have no interest in your emotional reaction here. I've made very clear from my statement what you can do to further understand what is illegal.",
"Lmao except he is though ",
"It's gonna be awesome, just like 2017 and 2016. Can't wait!",
"Oh well, we'll keep our 'dear leader' and you can keep your 'dear anonymous sources'.",
"can you elaborate? as an outsider i'm not that deep into US politics.",
"Wrong op, op.",
"Singing along to a rap song with the N-word: Racist\n\nSaying Mexican immigrants is mostly rapists: totally fine",
"It's racist to call countries that throw burning cartire rubbers around the necks of homosexuals and \"witches\" shitholes, didn't you know?",
"You’ve been going to the poor bits",
"Why not Trump Tower? There are enough surrounding scrapers and I am sure New Yorkers can afford a decent projector.",
"I too love my confirmation bias!",
"Yeah, I'd agree with this. I don't think he actually wanted to win, just the attention. I get the feeling he is clever, but part of him is emotionally stuck as a 7 year old in the playground who gets attention by bully other children. This is dangerous.",
"Super fake. It's like they just shined a light up on the building or something. We all know light is fakenews",
"Where's the case i couldn't find it? Details definitely matter in law.",
"The salaries make up for that",
"He meant that you'd get killed by the thieves who came to steal your projector and laptop",
"Asians aren't usually black or hispanic. Where does he say he is open to having more mexican, venezuelan, or african immigrants?",
"Wow Trump derangement syndrome truly is real.",
"This is actually the first time I'm hearing about it, got a link?",
"No need for \"/s\". Your statement is mostly factual.",
"that gives me a j-card, RIGHT?????",
"The American dream was never real. ",
"SF is amazing!",
"Bay Area ain't taking no bullshit!",
"Ironic that they'd put this up in the biggest shithole city in the US. ",
"Boosted jobs and economy. Showed how dishonest the news is. Helped me believe in myself and not be afraid of what people think. ",
"Well that’s mean, he never even said the “shithole” comment haha ",
"Good for you.",
"America is like that rather fat but strong shitkid who used to bully everyone in school. He's not smart. He's probably not loved by anyone. And you sort of know that he'll end up getting fired from MC Donalds because of drug abuse.",
"Do you have a pic of that? ",
"You okay bro? You seem a little upset?",
"You're talking about him. The whole world is talking about him. He just got every news show in the country to say \"shithole\" and we have no idea if he even said it because he never said it publicly. He's deep inside your head. He owns you.",
"San Francisco is such a poorly managed, shithole of a city that this is beyond ironic...",
"The very poor vote red and those policies work to ensure they have as little money as the red politicians can get away with.",
"> claimed he was over a 140 years old\n\nHow is that any kind of defense? Can i murder someone then add some bullshit during the interview to make it all good?",
"People say words. You may not like those words. Too bad. That’s life.\n\nIf you really want throw a fit over words instead of discussing actual policy, fine. \n\nIt will not help anybody with distracting topics like this.",
"SF speaks out against a Republican President? I'm shocked considering they vote 91% liberal\n\n Speaking of shitholes, shouldn't San Francisco be more concerned with fixing their own city considering they have the highest homeless rate in the United states and its the most expensive place to live. ",
"USA is a shithole. Mostly because of the vermin that populate it. Scenery is world beating",
"People defended Trump claiming he was correct to call certain countries shitholes. Let's play devil's advocate: it was unprofessional and he was an asshole for being so offensive, but it was technically true.\n\nThe same standard should apply here.",
"Here is a link to better stroke your liberal idiocy. Same goddamn facts. \n\nhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/rape-charge-against-immigrant-teen-in-maryland-case-will-be-dropped-defense-lawyer-says/2017/05/05/a4806c02-312f-11e7-8674-437ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.3abd9976efbc",
"Leave your hometown once in a while rofl",
"Lol what are you arguing even? You're saying it's so professional, it's so bright it's so focused.. Okay and so what??\nYeah it's well done. Obviously someone used a projector and was good with it. Not that it's really that fucking hard. You write the words out on your computer program with a clear background. You figure out the dimensions of the wall beforehand, do a test projection somewhere else with the words and make sure everything fits. Then you go project it on the wall, maybe move 1 or 2 feet forward or back to adjust if you were accurate, turn ONE knob to focus it sharply. And you're fucking good. Some people have balls. And this is fucking light in the balls department",
"Shit..we really showed him!",
"> I’m fairly sure this website didn’t project this image on the side of a building.\n\nNo, but this website allows it to be the #1 post on the front page, while pro-Trump posts from a subreddit such as /r/The_Donald are strictly banned from appearing on the front page.",
"Why didn't this happen when Obama called Libya a \"shit show\"?",
"I'm sure if a cop 'accidentally' let off a round into a migrant the left would be just as forgiving.",
"The president acts like a Weak baby every day of his life ",
"SF LOL one of the biggest shitholes in the whole US",
"Tax cuts for millionaires only... Unemployment was low with Obama... stock market is a bubble ready to explode.... Puerto Rico has no fucking power you idiot!\n\n",
"You’re being downvoted by idiots who think this is a $199 projector from amazon",
"Underrated comment. Coulda had yer own post. Peace. ",
"Words matter, especially when you're the president. ",
"Well, if they can't post links on the sub, then where would they do so? People are saying Discord, but so far, zero proof.",
"Jesus Christ bro. Are you that eager to defend him? Lindsay Graham pretty much admitted that's what he said plus the other people in the room that said he said it.\n\nI mean who cares that he said it, but you just look so pathetic saying that shit.",
"Because",
"Long enough to have, at the very least, a basic understanding of sentence structure and use of punctuation. How you claim I'm wrong about everything is a little misleading though, especially when you don't give any information as to why you think I am. \n\nI'm wrong for thinking the government has worked against everyone which is the complete opposite of it's function? I'm wrong in thinking the US absolutely has no need of any immigration? I'm wrong in thinking socialized medicine is a farce and shouldn't be controlled by the government? \n\nWhatever floats your boat, Popeye. I have my own views about the shitshow that is America, and clearly you disagree.",
"Raised taxes? No. But the bill only benefits the wealthy, and that's the truth. Trickle down economics is a fucking fantasy.",
"Trump is not proposing anything nearly so well-put nor reasoned, and you’ll have a tough time trying to prove otherwise via his ignorant, rambling incoherence.\n\nAs for your assertion - no, we take in plenty of (for example) H1B visas, which have paths to residence. Educated immigrants from “non-shithole” countries actually get preference, followed by educated immigrants from elsewhere.\n\nThe ones who generally don’t get preference are unskilled workers from “shithole” countries, but here’s the kicker - there remains a massive need for both skilled AND unskilled workers in the US, with heavily imperfect, asymmetrical paths to citizenship depending on how poorly the system can get away with treating them. ",
"Oh, was it not the democratic party who classified staff members in food groups? Face it, Democrats have been pandering for the black and Hispanic vote for years, they are the ones projecting their racism onto other people as they treat these people like votes in the bag and not free thinking citizens. \n\nSo Obama gets 90%+ of the black vote and nobody bats an eye, yet somehow President Trump gets a much lower percent of the white vote and he's supposed to be the racist one? yeah that's just projection.\n\nIt's so easy to read the left like a book because anything they attack you with they are guilty of themselves, it's so predictable. Look at all the celebs and news people who called out Trump over the pussy comments, the same celebs and news people that are now being fired or strung up on sexual misconduct charges. \n\n",
"In private? Sure, speak how you want. I'm more interested in content than sugarcoating.",
"Is it though?",
"Obama called Libya a shitshow - where was the outrage? This fabricated outrage EVERY FUCKING DAY AGAINST TRUMP is so blatantly artificial that it's hilarious, and just goes to show how desperate the dems are.",
"I mostly look at reddit. The story was up for a day. I'm not saying that I'm particularly religious about keeping up with the news, but I check r/politics a few times a day and only remember seeing this story very briefly. I'm assuming your news viewing bubble is conservative because I filed this story away in my memory as shitty alt-right propaganda. Regardless of my exposure to the news, I'm just trying to get you to acknowledge that other people won't know everything that you know and you shouldn't necessarily expect them to.",
"I'm pretty sure the circumstances in which he said that were anything but private.",
"All those things happened. And more: https://www.gq.com/story/barack-obama-tan-suit-anniversary",
"Watch this.\n\nReddit slash r slash pics.\n\nGuess which sub reddit I am referring to? Go on, guess.",
"You really think Putin, one of the richest men on the planet, would sell that info for money? Russia digs dirt so that they can blackmail said candidate and and influence policy and manipulate them later on. Putin and Russia are not after money, they want to rebuild an empire and push back the US. Trump is just doing exactly what they want and always will",
"Same here, I've also removed myself from most social media to avoid it. I'm much happier for it. ",
"I think you're mixing up reality with an episode of South Park ",
"Nice to see liberal cunts using their bots to get this to the front page.",
"I love getting downvoted for facts that rustle the jimmies of liberal idiots. \n\nApparently my anecdote isn't some weird anomaly.\n\nhttp://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Complaints-of-syringes-human-waste-rise-10459969.php",
"Also confirmed to not have been said by people who were there. ",
"Stay classy, San Francisco.",
"Ah yes, from the city that acquitted the illegal immigrant that murdered Kate Steinle.",
"Lol, I remember making a similar image, but this one looks a bit better quality than mine. Can't find the original though.",
"Further down the thread.",
"Trump has done nothing to deserve respect. And the right *did* make false claims about Obama.",
"Yes. He is now a citizen of America. After being born in South Africa. Completely obliterating the anti-immigration stances. ",
"So brave",
"\\*you're",
"Temper tantrums sums up their mentality perfectly.",
"Please stop trying to teach them. We want them to reeee all the way to another Trump win in 2020.",
"The rest of world shares a giant bowl of popcorn, sits back and watches the show. ",
"Nahh\nI live in South Shithole\nMy president is a different Shithole and we only have one more year of torture with him",
"Private conversation. We don’t even know if he actually said the words. ",
"Shit hole city ",
"They're not dark enough to hate.",
"Except that did not happen. He was illegally in possession of a firearm he stole and claimed he \"found\". He fired into the crowd and he admitted to pulling hte trigger but changed the story from it going off when he picked it up to I accidentally pulled the trigger while pointing it at the ground. Sorry a ricochet in that manner would not have killed the girl and would have been impossible as experts confirmed as they not only have proven the bullet a hollow point would not ricochet in that manner and magically change direction towards the girl. It was fired in a straight line.\n\nFurthermore even being an accident he is a felon in possession of a firearm that automatically makes him guilty of killing someone if it was his actions that led to the death of someone.\n\nEven accidental shooting are manslaughter when you are a felon and committing a crime.\n\n\nThe fucking experts already stated no ricochet marks, bullet traveled in a straight line, gun could not accidentally fire without trigger pull. Gun was stolen from car not found on the ground.",
"Oh yeah, you're right! Well now I'm not sure what to think. ",
"You should try looking on /r/news for news.",
"The dark center should be bullshit, and show Drump reaching for one.\n\nOn second thought, he has enough bullshit for the entire earth.",
"Ah. Well my bad then.",
"Ok, first he replied to the wrong person, secondly the tax cuts are bullshit, permanent cuts for tops rate and corporations with convienently timed 10 year renewals for the middle class. The stock market will do its thing regardless of who is president, unemployment has been going down for 5ish years (and then tossing in the demographic buzz words for impact). ISIS was losing anyways because have you seen the size of our military + global coalition and Puerto Rico STILL doesn't have power (or are they not Americans because brown people?).\n\nThat's not even mentioning the grammar, sentence structure and comma usage of someone unfamiliar with the language, and it's about 4am here which would be what, noonish in Moscow gimme a break dude.",
"The majority of Asians aren't Caucasian either. Also Hispanic isn't a race. ",
"Shitshow president... shithole president doesn't make sense....",
"Yep, you're insane. Full. Blown. Hysterical. Insanity.\n\nGet some help.",
"I don't know. I'm not the one who was talking about the Tennessee case.",
"You guys are really, *really* grasping at straws to try to justify Trump's actions.",
"I’m so combed-over it. ",
"Please clap",
"its still 2012 for me. I start the new year when I decide its time to get older.",
"So..... I’m curious if you HAD to choose a president and you had a choice of only two: Trump or Zuma , who would you choose?",
"and you should be ashamed, i just ignored it til some wanker on reddit figured it out for me. ",
"That's what I'm trying to figure out. People who post on here who speak English as a language should be ashamed at how they don't know their own language.",
"Really is that simple and i hope the left continue to push for that",
"So when other people who were there saying it didn't happen, The President saying it didn't happen, why do you not believe them? Why don't you search for truth and EVIDENCE before just believe what you want to believe. \n\nI'm not eager to defend comments that are not verified or their is conjecture on. Provide proof and I'm more than happy to believe what was said. \n\n\n\n",
"Are you comparing places where albinos are murdered for their limbs and where homosexuals and \"witches\" are hunted with burning cartire rubbers to America?",
"I'm in awe by this reply.... teach me. ",
"I wish I could upvote this as least twice",
"Are you saying Prii don't fit in in San Francisco?",
"Yet is has the highest immigration rate in the world, facts are crazy eh?",
"Do you have a source? ",
"President. ",
"I'm not your shithole friend. ",
"[No, but this is](https://media.giphy.com/media/3oFzmfLbZn3eY7spmU/giphy.mp4)",
"Just wondering when people do these displays where do people put the lights without them getting taken away/destroyed",
"Okay, fair enough.\n\nBut in that case, can you show me the T_D post that's inciting the brigade?",
"You are reading news very selectively if you think those things have become acceptable. But please, go on with your fantasy narrative. ",
"Haiti is a shithole and u know it ur just being anti trump beacuse hes talented hes the president for christ sake so stop verbally abusing him cuz he achieved more then you ever will",
"I'd give you gold but i'm literally being murdered by the tax cuts",
"Hey we can just start insulting your origin and integrity and see who gets butthurt then. It's a lot easier to pretend people are getting riled up over nothing if it has nothing to do with you. ",
"hmm i dont get it?",
"You're shocked. Fine. I have no interest in your emotional reaction here. I've made very clear from my statement that adults can say words people may not like sometimes.",
"This idiot president of yours had no strategy to defeat ISIS other than the ones put in place before he got there. It's the only Obama admin policy he hasn't destroyed. He undermined his own sec of state on N. Korea and reportedly has had to be talked down from bombing them. He wasn't responsible for anything related to the talks. China was. \n\nYou have to stop spouting off Fox News talking points and realize the douche bag golfs like a retiree and tweets like a teenager. He's an old fool. \n\nHe's a reality tv star who was running for president as a stunt and won. Now he's in over his head. ",
"he never even said anything that would indicate that he's a socialist",
"You vote that way, I'll vote mine. Guess we cancel each other out in 2020 :).",
"God forbid people have the *freedom* to express their dislike of Trump. \n\nHint: the majority of people in most countries think Trump is a joke. Time to get used to it.",
"Shithole winter",
"cheers",
"Please attempt to understand how a society works.",
"You don't ban people, you select them based on objective criteria that relate to: \n1- Potential investments \n2- Exceptional talents\n3- General skills in relation to skill gaps in the US\n4- Qualifications\n5- Language\n6- Future expected earnings\n\nThe probability of someone coming from a low-income developing country such as Haiti meeting relevant standards would be very low.",
"You're shocked. Fine. I have no interest in your emotional reaction here. I've made very clear from my statement that adults can say words in private conversations that you may not like.",
"Well it's not like they can ban light from shining on their buildings. ",
"I'm sorry but your statement almost wish I had cancer than reading that. Bully? Fuck me why do we spend way more on helping other countries, and broke ass lazy welfares... America is the for front of most things with Japan and Germany. This includes all media (music, movies etc), space (private and gov) we are one of the most accepting countries compared to most.",
"What? All I'm saying it's possible. Hell, that's PROBABLE. \n\n",
"Imagine being Mr. Hanky every day of the year...",
"Its all so anal. That shithole is screwed.",
"Yes but they THINK we do. So given their own irrational fears, they are acting with immense bravery to do this in the face of that fear.",
"Thank you for remind me of that. Good talking point.",
"https://i.redd.it/ju0mapc3eq901.png",
"San Cuckcisco ",
"Fuck off back to Russia.",
"😂 *cheers*",
"Honestly, blame the left. Seriously, blame the left. The volatility is near 100% their fault. Even before the two candidates were chosen they were spewing inflammatory, polarizing speech towards anyone who didn't agree with them completely. It was so bad that I heard almost nothing from anyone even slightly conservative.",
"I love SF, but I think its kind of funny to think if you take a random shot, you get multiple priuses.",
"Brit here, and no the whole world is not anti-Trump. Speak for yourself. I don't think he's a very intelligent man, nor a particularly charismatic one. What I do think, is that a lot of what we see in the media about him is blown out of proportion. Quite frankly I'm just sick of everyone patting themselves on the back for being better than him. It's gotten old. ",
"I've heard all about T_D fighting with the admins and I never heard about the -admins- literally telling people, ANYONE, you can't link directly to other subs.\n\nSure, the mods do this. But the admins? I would consider that weird and bizarre and creepy.",
"You'll be one of many who have been pushed to the right by idiots on the left",
"Two minds beating as one.",
"> Time is a weird fucking thing \n\nI've always thought that it feels like time moves faster and faster as you get older...but 2017 man. If someone woke me up in the middle of the night and asked me how long Trump has been president I would have answered at least two years. It's actually **less** than one though... feels weird. ",
"Because you can't really virtue signal FISA. Too complicated for the masses.",
"Very true. The US is a shithole country",
"\"I don't recall\" used as an official statement usually means \"Yes it happened but I'm not going to say it happened\"",
"It only takes a second to take the photo",
"Have you seen our new president and how he carries himself? Have your read his Twitter feed? He is in a constant state of a temper tantrum. You don't get any more childish than him. ",
"JetSetRadioFuture :D",
"I'm not your shithole, cunt.",
"I’ve been to South Africa many times. Apologies; but it is a shithole ",
"What a monster....",
"I'm pretty sure if we leaked every word of every conversation in politics we'd have a lot worse than calling a shithole a shithole",
"He called Africa and India shitholes and everybody acts like he killed a 2 year old baby live on Television. I guess being honest nowadays means half the world gets offended lol",
"Another win for the liberals! A few more of these and he has to be impeached!",
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"He's right tho, why do we want nothing but immigrants from poor countrys, its not helping us at all.",
"Who? The only Republican Senators I saw commenting on it said they didn't remember hearing him say it.",
"Hahahahahahahah! Hussein never attained a full year GDP growth of 3%. . in his ENTIRE PRESIDENCY. The first president in the History of the United States to do that: https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Not a single year. Pathetic.\n\nAlso, do you invest? Follow financial news at all? Work somewhere in the finance sector? Have any kind of interaction with someone doing this for a living? I wouldn't have to explain the dumbed down details of how removing restrictions on companies suddenly makes them more competitive. . .how stock markets trade on anticipation of future earnings growth or other financial indicators on the *expectations* of present policy. The stock market began it's **Massive**, **Record-Breaking** climb as soon as the election results started flowing in. Analyst ratings for the market overall and for sectors that benefit from a decreased regulatory environment were ticked up literally overnight! And those are just the short term effects immediately after the election. . the sustained growth over the past year has multiple data points throughout to show that this is a long term trend that's here to stay. Here's some pretty graphs if you care to look them up: https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/\n\nThe previous administration allowed ISIS to *Thrive*. It started falling after the Trump Administration freed up the military from previously adopted Rules of Engagement that treated escaping fighters as innocent who needed to be left alone. . . here's an infographic if you want to study it: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/76re94/gif_syrian_and_iraqi_insurgencies_the_fall_of/?st=jcd9cajq&sh=16ee5b14\n\nNatural Disasters: Did you miss the part where a record amount of money was released to the agencies and states that needed it in a record amount of time even though there were an unprecedented number of disasters in a short amount of time? https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2017/09/18/president-donald-j-trump-signs-emergency-declaration-puerto-rico \n\nI know you're probably too clingy with your view of reality, but credit is deserved where it's due. You're just proving my point of the left being a bunch of whiny kids with no real comprehension of reality.",
"So then it's absolutely fucking irrelevant that some people think America is a shithole when Trump clearly meant places in Africa where the things I mentioned happen. It's Trump's comments we are discussing in this thread, in case you didn't notice. ",
"Ironically, self righteous San Francisco is turning into an actual \"shithole\". \n\nhttps://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/human-wasteland-map-plots-all-of-san-franciscos-poop\n",
"Who said it didn't happen? The other people there either won't comment on it or say that can't remember what was said quote for quote. Quit getting your news from him Twitter.\n\nQuote for quote = word for word",
"Which somehow justifies people on the left doing the same.",
"Oh, no. I recognize you as a fellow redditor, but also as a goatfucker :D\n\nIt's just that, like I was implying above, you can do whatever you want and be whatever you want, but the minute you do something mind-bendingly stupid like fuck a goat, or in this case self-identify as a trump supporter, you become known for that instead of whatever else it was you'd rather be known for. That was an epic run-on sentence, and I apologize. (We all have our shortcomings, right?;)",
"I’ve been to South Africa and it is indeed an absolute shithole. I’ve never witnessed a mugging in my life, and a week spent in South Africa I witnessed many.",
"Which countries in SEA love Trump? He's a joke in Singapore where I'm from. I doubt Muslim majority countries like Malaysia or Indonesia would like Trump. Let's not even talk about the Philippines.\n\nAlso, China loves Trump? That's a good joke considering how openly antagonistic China has been towards him.",
">These are the people laughing at Alex Jones, wew",
"Here in the UK normally used for messy and badly neglected homes. Think hoarding programmes .",
"Something I’ve come to expect from California. Smh",
"Emotional opinion? Good band name.",
"You've never been to a shithole country tumptard. In those countries they murder people and get away with it.",
"How?",
"A healthy Shithole is a happy Shithole.",
"Shithole time of year.",
"My emotional reaction? I'm just saying that he has a position of **world**leader and can't just go around saying most of the rest of the **world** is shit.\n\nAnd talking about emotional. I'm not the one typing an entire bookwork and insulting random internet people just to get my opinion across. For the last two hours or so.",
"I'm good with my subs as is, thanks. I mostly only care about political and local news. Can we get back on topic and agree that not everyone's sphere of knowledge is the same as yours, so if you want to introduce information it's a good idea to provide sources when asked rather than making them look it up themselves?",
"I mean, the guy broke the colour spectrum. He's the first ever orange shit stain, that is at the same time a dark stain.",
"My point is that him allowing asian immigrants does not mean that he is not racist towards blacks or hispanics.\n\n\nUnder \"race\" for my college applications they made me check hispanic because they did not have \"Salvadoran\" as an option. I've been conditioned to check hispanic under race in almost all my school exams and applications. So yes, \"hispanic\" is my race according to the universities ",
"Every kids new word , “ mom do we live in a shithole?” ",
"Well there's California's sanctuary cities nonsense.",
"So i don't agree with what alot of Trump says but, this is just straight up vandalism. Edit: oh so it's a projector. IMO it's still technically vandalism.",
"Maybe Trump is the catalyst needed to ensure we get a president in three years that makes meaningful change to take the U.S. in a better direction. In the meantime he will make the rich more wealthy and take more civil liberties and social policies away from the masses.",
"I used [this](http://www.upsidedowntext.com) converter",
"Didn’t even make sense",
"Hey, give him some respect for at least trying to play the race card!",
"Shithole city",
"Tell us... is it shit? Or is it the shit?",
"He’s saying the government won’t kill them, not that it isn’t a shithole.",
"And yet he has accomplished more in one year than any of his predecessors. He has a job to do. And he does it incredibly well. He just doesn’t go about it the way you think he should. And to that I say, too fuckin bad. ",
"It's alright kind sir or madam",
"So, Chinese new year then?",
"A bar that allows dogs in....",
"Fair enough :)",
"Tell me where other than in a western nation you would like to live thanks. America has its problems but is no doubt one of the best county's to live in.",
"We're up for a shithole year. Is it a thing yet? Am I doing this right?",
"Unrelated, but that has been my favorite building since I first saw renderings in my 1st year architecture studio in 2005. It got a lot of flak for being commissioned and approved by W Bush's administration and the SF city council let a developer build a hotel next to it to kind of block it. A shame, but I really like it. The Caltrans building here in LA is my local favorite, done in a similar flavor by m0rphosis.",
"Look at you making assumptions about me. How cute! LOL I can speak Mandarin and Cantonese, Thai and a bit of Hindi. People talk very openly with me and once they find out I'm from Texas, they love me even more. ",
"Trump is better than Hillary though",
"Some joke about people sharing bullshit stories on social media about famous people. The meme goes with obviously bullshit stories, like \"One day when Kayne West was just starting his career he noticed a young boy drowning in a lake, and saved him. That boy's name? Albert Einstein\", in mockery of equally bullshitty but less obviously so stories shared non ironically.",
"You mean a shithole year.",
"He's still your president whether you like it or not haha ",
"What a time to be alive !",
"> out spent in the next election\n\nHe got outspent more than 2 to 1 in the last election and still won.",
"Yeah no possibility of an actual trump supporter. Everyone thinks just like you. ",
"Well sanctuary city is simply a sensationalist media term, do you actually know what it means for a city to be considered that? ",
"Farm work is low-skilled and should be automated as much as possible especially since it is seasonal and does not provide consistent revenues to transient workers.\n\nPending improvement in automation the use of [H-2A Temporary Agricultural Workers](https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/temporary-workers/h-2a-temporary-agricultural-workers) addresses this specific labor issue.",
"The quintessential bugman, ladies and gents. Seven years on leddit, several posts to atheism subreddits, frequent /r/politics poster, gay, and has never gone more than 8 days without making a post.\n\nThis is the person who thinks that because a story only showed up on /r/politics for a day, it's \n\n>shitty alt-right propaganda\n\nlmao my dude, you're a funny fucker.",
"San Francisco sure seems to want its federal funding pulled. ",
"I believe that the largest reform to our tax code in my lifetime benefits the ultra wealthy to the detriment of the middle and lower class, was rushed through without expert testimony, was filled with handwritten sections, loopholes, and errors, and was finalized in the middle of the night as an act of political looting by a party on the brink.\n\nMultiple Republican officials have come forward saying that their corporate donors were withholding their donations (through unethical campaign finance rules which Republicans are desperate to keep in place and democrats want to improve) until they passed a corporate tax break. \n\nBoth sides might be bought and paid for by corporations and the ultra wealthy, but democrats work for them like you and I work our job. Republican politicians suck corporate and 1% dick like they are crack whores, and most have about the same moral compass as one.\n\nCheck out the private tax break for hedge fund managers in the Virgin Islands and private jet owners and try to tell me differently.",
"Hi there, thanks for the condescending comment. It's elitist liberals like you that got people so annoyed that they went out and voted for Trump in the first place and continue to support him no matter what because nobody likes to be talked down to.\n\nNot everybody that supports Trump is dumb anymore than everybody who supported Hillary is a Mensa member. Liberalism is NOT a sign of intelligence. One could make a very strong case of just the opposite in actuality. YouTube is brimming with videos of liberals saying the absolute dumbest things, not knowing the first thing about our constitution or mistaking the Democrat party platform for the Communist manifest and the best of all is loving the tax plan when they thought it was Bernie's but instantly hating it when told it was Trump's. It's downright comical.\n\nTrump has rolled back billions of dollars in over regulation, passed the tax reform bill, is decimating ISIS (something Obama couldn't or more likely, wouldn't do), and opening land to drilling and oil exploration. The economy is BOOMING, stocks on a record tear, businesses are hiring again, consumer confidence is way up, taxes are down, businesses are repatriating BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars that were offshore. He's scaling back government in every sector and shrinking the beaurocrats out of existence thereby saving billions. I mean I could go on and on and on.\n\nThis year when you file your taxes and you save thousands, you can thank Trump. If you still hate it so much, I implor you to send in the extra money to the government in protest.\n\nGood day sir.\n\n",
"Is that actually true or are you pulling it out your ass?",
"Ironic statement coming from the city that literally has a crisis of people shitting on the streets due to the highest rate of homelessness in the United States, along with the highest cost of living. \n\n",
"I know right!! I wish more places were like that shining city on the hill... Hattisburg, Mississippi!!! 👌",
"I can very much confirm that EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD now sees the USA as a shithole.",
"I’m tired of the two-party circlejerk. I’m not a conservative or a Republican (not a big fan of authoritarianism or meddling in foreign affairs), but I don’t like the Democrats, either. Being skeptical of neoliberalism on Reddit is high treason and I’m often pegged as a Trump supporter because I’m not a big fan of the partisan whining about Trump. I didn’t vote for the president, but I also didn’t vote for Hillary. Please spare me the “it’s all your fault” lecture. It’s not persuading me to vote neoliberal in the next election, either. Why do people tell you to vote and then tell you you’re throwing your vote away if you vote third party? I’m not an ideologue. I liked some of Bernie’s ideas and I liked some of Gary Johnson’s ideas. I wanted a change from the two-party establishment. Voting Democrat feels to me like supporting the status quo and not making the kind of radical change this country needs. Liberals are in the awkward position of wanting to conserve the status quo instead of making bold changes. But if you don’t vote Democrat, you’re accused of throwing away your vote or supporting evil. Again, spare me the lecture. Listen to why left-leaning people are sick and tired of the Democratic Party establishment. I’m not the only one. ",
"buffalo tears are out of bounds, stand down sir",
"While you wait, see [Urban Dictionary](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shit-hole&defid=12423456)",
"It bothers me that there's a painting of him hanging in the White House. It also bothers me that he's gotten to read the president's secret book.",
"Uh, what? That's a proven fact. Wikileaks published the DNC emails showing that the Clinton campaign gave the media marching orders. The emails were never disputed. I believe somebody from Fusion GPS also just answered under oath that they gave orders to major news outlets to obscure the uranium one deal.",
"I bet less than three fifths of fuck all people complaining about this are from one of these countries.\n\nWould be a bit different if he said shit hole people, but compared to the West these countries *are* shit holes, nobody legitimately disagrees with that? ",
"Your resorting to ad hominem attacks shows you have no counter arguments.\n\n\nYou are emotional.\n\n\nIf you can’t accept this, either stop replying or continue being ignorant.",
"Grab my pussy, I'm going in!",
"Lol you've probably never been there and know nothing about it, and now you're gonna tell me how you lived there for years. ",
"meh lots of opinion here not a lot of real info",
"> Yep random people insulting you on the internet causes you to vote for senile con-men.\n\nYep swing voters really give a fuck about your reasoning",
"‘The stock market will do its thing’ except its consistently been bull every month and broken numerous record highs this year which didn’t occur in the last two presidencies \nThe corporation tax cuts have already led to higher investment and more wages, the news has been inundated with these stories, it’s almost as if he knows economics. You calling them ‘bullshit’ isn’t convincing\nLol Isis has not been losing before trump. They still had Mosul and Raqqa until fairly recently.\nPuerto Rico is not and has never been a race issue even though trump’s opposition is obsessed with race. It’s pretty well documented what got sent to Puerto Rico and what got sent back by the governor.\nLastly you finish up with ‘muh russia’ meme. The peak of ideological laziness. It used to be that everyone who disagreed with you is a nazi but now they’re a Russian apparently? Are you aware of the pro-Clinton Facebook ads posted by Russians? Maybe you know about the uranium one deal? Hell you don’t even need to know those to debunk this stupid russia myth. Hillary won the popular vote. What kind of election rigging and collusion gives your opposition more votes? Fuck out of here with that. \n",
"I saw a headline about him paying off a porn start and thought \"so....\" Nothing is gonna happen to this prick at all. He can fuck Ruth Bader in the mouth and gargle Putins balls at a summit and Congress won't act. They need his childish distraction to enrich themselves. People love a shit show. This is performance art - and the caption is Old Rich White Fuck Melts Down. ",
"You've apparently never been to SF. It's.. worlds worse than any other city I've been to... And I live in Vietnam..\n\n(Fwiw I'd wager the incredibly nice climate makes it a prime magnet for this sort of thing .) ",
"I've beat both games and this isn't ringing a bell",
"Classy",
"But they wouldn't have seen this if it wasn't leaked by the left",
"It was a major and recent news story, given the keywords it is all top google results. You should know this story already or you should google the keywords if you don't. End of story.",
"Somehow the Republicans’ fault, though ",
"Huh? Public servants abdicate freedom of speech in private conversation? What?",
"Down the memory hole it goes, comrade. Love is hate. History is a microaggression.",
"Nope. Still must be racism.",
"It's much easier to find anti-Trump sources than pro-Trump ones as the media's coverage is biased against him 95 to 1.",
"That sub is brain damage. Why would they put it in the front page?",
"Californian here. \n\nWhat is this list you speak of so i can get in?",
"Shh\n\nThe narrative ",
"Which is one reason I love having Bristol as one of my 'local' cities (Wells doesn't really count haha)",
"This is a staple term in our house. ",
"Stay Classy San Francisco.",
"There simply isn't one needed, yes people can make statements in private conversation that I might not agree with but my point is simply that the man has a responsibility and that he isn't acting accordingly, I only overstate it because you don't seem to get it, even after numerous repetitions.",
"It even has Donald Stump, a Trump impersonating little person who will covfefe you if you have Nordic ancestry.",
"You mean this guy? which I have LITERALLY VIDEO EVIDENCE OF saying something the same as what you are screeching about. \n\nhttps://v.politico.com/1155968404/1155968404_2368830609001_Graham-Session-MexicoHellHole.mp4\n\nHere's a direct quote backed up by video evidence\n\n\"The people coming across the southern border live in hellholes. They don’t like that. They want to come here. Our problem is we can’t have everybody in the world who lives in a hellhole come to America,”\n\nI'll wait for your evidence, or for you to scramble for excuses that \"shithole\" is not different from \"hellhole\" in meaning\n\n\n",
"Lmao. This is the stupidest theory I've ever heard. The guy who talked about running for president for 20 years never wanted to win. RIGHT.",
"Did you get this upset when Obama said Libya was a shitshow?",
"I can't find anything on that since January, are you referring to something from before 2018?",
"The modern left folks ^",
"What the fuck does economic stability of a country at large matter when it comes to whether a given person from that country is a good, grateful hard working person or not? This is why Trump's statement was so racist--it makes NO distinction whatsoever or allowance for people from his \"shithole\" countries who may actually be good, motivated and hard working people who just want a shot at the American dream like so many generations of poor immigrants before them who came to America. \n\nTrump didn't say he doesn't want criminals, he made no distinction between who may be good or bad candidates from a given country, only that if they're from any of these shithole countries they must automatically be less worthy. And THAT is what makes his comment so heinous and racist. I suspect he'd do a fast 180 if the person from Norway was a Muslim and the person from South Africa was white.",
"He's not a cunt. He lacks warmth and depth. ",
"I posted this comment in reply to the one above, but it either looks to be removed or something, copy pasting: \n\nObama never attained a full year GDP growth of 3%. . in his ENTIRE PRESIDENCY. The first president in the History of the United States to do that: https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/ Not a single year. Pathetic.\n\nAlso, do you invest? Follow financial news at all? Work somewhere in the finance sector? Have any kind of interaction with someone doing this for a living? I wouldn't have to explain the dumbed down details of how removing restrictions on companies suddenly makes them more competitive. . .how stock markets trade on anticipation of future earnings growth or other financial indicators on the expectations of present policy. The stock market began it's Massive, Record-Breaking climb as soon as the election results started flowing in. Analyst ratings for the market overall and for sectors that benefit from a decreased regulatory environment were ticked up literally overnight! And those are just the short term effects immediately after the election. . the sustained growth over the past year has multiple data points throughout to show that this is a long term trend that's here to stay. Here's some pretty graphs if you care to look them up: https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/\n\nThe previous administration allowed ISIS to Thrive. It started falling after the Trump Administration freed up the military from previously adopted Rules of Engagement that treated escaping fighters as innocent who needed to be left alone. . . here's an infographic if you want to study it: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/76re94/gif_syrian_and_iraqi_insurgencies_the_fall_of/?st=jcd9cajq&sh=16ee5b14\n\nNatural Disasters: Did you miss the part where a record amount of money was released to the agencies and states that needed it in a record amount of time even though there were an unprecedented number of disasters in a short amount of time? https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2017/09/18/president-donald-j-trump-signs-emergency-declaration-puerto-rico\n\nI know you're probably too clingy with your view of reality, but credit is deserved where it's due. You're just proving my point of the left being a bunch of whiny kids with no real comprehension of reality.",
"Ok Jeb!.",
"It’s not only a great word.\n\nIt’s maybe the greatest word of all.\n\nEveryone knows that. You can literally ask anyone and they will know it.\n\n",
"Happy cakeday!",
"Very true. It's nothing isolated to the left or right. The right use to huff and puff like babies at most of Obama's Congressional speeches. It's a sad state for US politics. ",
"#metoo",
"But it does say “ideal for small hands”",
"Please do not insult cunts.",
"year is still young",
"How’s America coming along for you folks? Is it great again yet? ",
"A turd lying on the sidewalk is also evidence",
"*than",
"News organizations are \"the left\" now? ",
"[Some Chinese people claimed they were celebrating New Year's in February](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/d_uIyUdjga4/hqdefault.jpg)",
"With no keystoning either.",
"Which electoral massacre? Trump's approval will only go up with the economic and unemployment numbers he's putting up. \"You'll never hit 3% GDP growth\" \"Do you have a magic wand?\" life comes at you fast",
"This is not graffiti",
"I don't recall hearing about rioting and vandalism on the right.",
"This Lindsay Graham?\n\nYou mean this guy?\n\nhttps://v.politico.com/1155968404/1155968404_2368830609001_Graham-Session-MexicoHellHole.mp4\n\nI'll wait to hear your defense of how the word \"hellhole\" difference from \"shithole\"",
"Habeeb it. ",
"I think you underestimate all the deplorable things he will say and do in the remaining months of the year.",
"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Are there not shithole countries? If you don't think so, go up your family and move to Haiti...Yeah, I didn't fucking think so. \n\nHe ineloquently was trying to articulate the desire for skilled immigrants. He said he wanted more Asians for God's sake! Is that the talk of a racist? \n\nThere's so much to hit Trump on. This ain't it. ",
"> If you act like a preschooler\n\nWait, so you don't think there are shithole countries?",
"Controlling the narrative doesn't mean we're calling him a genius media manipulator, just that he's figured out all you need to do to control the narrative is always do something outrageous to keep people talking about you. No small coincidence he was on reality tv, that's exactly how reality tv \"stars\" make their mark. Act like ridiculous little asshole children and everyone talks about how they're acting like a ridiculous little childish asshole. But regardless, they're talking about them. That's manipulation. Don't need to be a genius to do it. Puck from MTV's Real World knew how to do it, Omarosa knew how to do it, the Kardashians, that Hilton bitch; every single reality tv show has at least one. No-one's calling them geniuses and no-one sane believes Trump is a genius either. But he *is* controlling the narrative, and he absolutely is doing it on purpose. \n \nReminds me of being in school and there's that one class clown the teacher just hates, and always tells the other kids to just ignore them so they'll stop acting out. The only way to make Trump implode is if we stop giving him attention.",
"So, is the above real or fake? Funny either way.\n\nWas seeing if anything in the news and this came up though:\n\nhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/Picture-of-a-presidency-that-functions-in-chaos-12492305.php#photo-14872124",
"Idk if you know but SF isn‘t a single entity. There are multiple people living there and the people doing the projection are probably not the once responsible the fix the homeless problem. But nice whataboutism.",
"None of what you said is false. However, the problem with Trump's comment is that it made NO distinction whatsoever for the people from Haiti or his other \"shithole\" countries who ARE literate or skilled. It was a blanket statement that any of the people coming from these countries must themselves inherently be shitty or substandard. As another poster noted, Trump would almost certainly do a 180 on his stance if the person coming from the Netherlands was Muslim and the person coming from South Africa was white. Which illustrates why such a blanket statement about countries is ignorant at best and racist at worst.\n\nMore importantly, it ignores some other important things. One, what people in war torn or \"shithole\" countries who make the actual effort to immigrate to the U.S. are made of. These are people who in many cases are willing to risk life and limb to try to come to America to make a better life for themselves. Not the lazy, shifty people who make shithole countries shitholes. Stop and think for a moment how motivated someone has to be in order to risk everything for an opportunity at a better life in America. Those are precisely the types of people we want here, just as previous generations of immigrants landed on our shores with no money and nothing except their dream of a better life, many of whom went on to build literal business empires in America. Had we not let them in because they weren't already skilled enough or had the right pedigree, we'd have lost out on some amazing people who made America greater for their presence here.\n\nThis leads to the second point, which is the ethos of America and what it has always stood for. The inscription on the Statue of Liberty doesn't say \"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free--but only if they're not from shithole countries\". In fact, some of the people from these shithole countries are precisely the ones who need the opportunity the most, and tend to be the most grateful and hard working as a result of said opportunity.\n\nThe inability of Trump to make ANY distinction in terms of who is coming from these respective countries is what makes his comment so racist and awful. \n\nedit: the racists and Trump apologists are out in force I see.",
"Say the first word that comes into your head ...",
"What happened to tolerating differences of opinion?",
"No. For a whole of ten years. ",
"By saying it \"isn't even proved\" is calling everyone in attendance that heard him say it (both sides of the aisle), liars. And he isn't off the hook for it being said \"in private\". It wasn't to his wife behind a bedroom door. It was said during a White House meeting while in an official capacity as POTUS. He should be ashamed and you should be ashamed for defending him. ",
"Or forget about dignity and actually do something about these countries. He called Haiti a shithole. It is. But all you liberals are up in arms about Trump calling it a shithole but no one batted an eyelid all while the Clintons will personally fucking Haiti themselves. ",
"So you want to hold people to standards you can't even be bothered to hold yourself to. Okay. It's Trump, did you all have any other expectations?\n\n The shitholes thing is far from being even remotely close to the worst thing he's done. It doesn't even crack the top 10. And frankly this isn't even Trump. I can't think of a single world leader who could say what he did that I would really think made this a big deal with probably the sole exception of the Pope.\n\nThis is Trump Derangement Syndrome and it's becoming more and more clear just how extensive the propaganda efforts against Trump go. \n\nWe still have three years of Trump and it's disturbing how insanely fucking angry the anti-Trump people still are. This shit seriously cannot be good for your mental health. It's literally every single day for the vast majority of you people that you spend screaming purple-faced with rage at your computer. You can't go twelve hours without some Trump-related shit pouring out of your mouths. And at this point I'm not sure if it's the tail wagging the dog or what - do you guys consume all this propaganda and it's resulting in you all living in a constant state of hatred and anger, or is the propaganda a result of you all living like that every day?\n\nNever mind how obvious it is becoming that Reddit has significant investments of some kind of organized externality assisting in this propaganda effort. Do I need to draw your attention to how even though there's never been any evidence of pro-Trump botting or brigading (how many times have you ever seen a pro-Trump comment or thread with a positive Karma score?), there are a lot of people who make it their mission to scream about Russian trolls and T_D brigades in every single major comment thread, including this one?",
"You are comically bad at l arguing lol lol you use the same types of deceptive wordwork as those shit hole shit heads at that shit hole subreddit, the Donald. ",
"Which news organization was in the room exactly?",
"Shithole government ",
"That's a shithole state government.",
"From rich countries, really? \n",
"Here we could see a common Trump supporter throw the Whataboutism card. Their Trump card fails feebly as it did not remove how a huge shithole their president is. ",
"Why would the President of the U.S. be trying to achieve a better future for another country if it involves possibly taking away from the U.S.'s future?\n\nHis comment was crass, but it was in a closed door meeting. He didn't say it in a speech. Someone leaked it and the news media repeated it 1000 times.",
"I miss Stefon.",
"Trump 2020",
"I'm not your shithole, shithole.\n",
"Unfortunately anyone who thinks places where limbs of albinos are hacked off to \"cure diseases\" aren't objectively shitholes is a braindead idiot. \n\nIf all you're gonna do is argue about \"herrp derp some ppl think America bad too, shithole is objective!\" there's really no point to reply to me. ",
"I don’t think that word means what they think it means.",
"Sounds good but we still need them until that day comes.",
"That's why it's effective against this president!",
"I seriously don't think SFPD could give a rats ass. Hell, they are probably guarding this dude's power supply.\n\nSource: Used to be one",
"Sounds awesome I want to go there. ",
"aka Vote blue, no matter who",
"Cf",
"Stop taking his jokes be original",
"Regardless of your opinion on the book, it agrees with you.",
"It’s San Francisco. It’s an artisanal light projector. ",
"You're linking to an old opinion piece about a state bill that became law and so far has not been challenged rendering the opinion of the author wrong thus far.\n\nI don't understand what it is the point you are trying to make. Please explain.",
"This is funny coming from a place that lets you shit on the sidewalks!",
"Are you saying our immigrants are only from rich countries? Because I'd like a fake news fact check on that one.",
"Just out of curiosity, where'd you get gay from? Stands out as weird to me because I'm not gay. I'm not exactly straight either, but I'm closer to straight than gay. Oh, and I'd also feel remiss if I didn't mention that my sexuality is irrelevant to the topic at hand.\n\nedit: I think I figured out why you think I'm gay. SnoopSnoo is apparently really bad at figuring out things about people. Though if we're believing SnoopSnoo, I guess your love of Al Qaeda might be a bit embarrassing.\n\nAlso, back on topic, I think the story is legit. The conclusions that were reached were shitty alt-right propaganda. The story without the propaganda isn't national-news-worthy. Accidental shootings happen all the time, often without convictions.",
"I'm pretty sure he does considering how un-accepting and un-inclusive this is. Pretty much the opposite of what San Francisco is trying to represent. It is unfortunate that they are so far up their own ass that they can't realize this, much less the fact that they recently let a murderer go.",
"(Wow...)",
"Have a good morning brotha :)",
"I'm annoyed that they didn't change the right side.",
"It is snowing outside :) first time being in snow which is dope. Have a good day!",
"Can we at least wait until after Shitholegiving Day before we start with the Merry Shitholes and Happy Shitholes?",
"[The Irony is that San Fransisco is an actual shithole.](https://www.engadget.com/2014/11/21/san-francisco-human-wasteland-project/) ",
"Me too. I'm more upset with the citizens than the government though.",
"The problem isn't pointing out that they (or their parents) came from countries with lower QoL. The problem is imply in a unnecessarily rude fashion that this means they have less of a right to immigrate to or be in the US.\n\nIt's an inherently racist approach to immigration to demand no explanation from white Europeans (just assuming they are better educated and less criminal) but demand that people from \"shitholes\" better explain why they think they deserve to be in the States.\n\nNot to mention that countries can have a lower QoL without being shitholes. Many are objectively beautiful places with economic and political issues. \n\n*Typo ",
"THE SIDE MAN\n\nYOU FORGOT THE SIDE",
"I laughed out loud.. I’ll see my self out now.",
"You're right of course, but I already upvoted the post. Can't change my mind this late in the game ",
"Yay\nlowering the bar.\nOne day at a time. ",
"How is it unlawful?",
"Can you share some of these \"accomplishments\" please?\n\n",
"Good lord you're a stubborn one. One might even say you're insufferable. So once again, mission accomplished.",
"On the whole? Yes. It is wrong. ",
"That... they're entitled to their opinion and go about my business?",
"Who said Mexican immigrants are mostly rapists?",
"San Francisco would be a shit hole if it weren't on a hill, and Trump is president. I rate this \"somewhat true\".",
"> It's clear he's drastically changed from the early 2000's\n\nIn his speech and public behavior, perhaps. But he and his family have a decades-long track record of bigotry, greed, bullying, and dishonesty.",
"The rest of the world *is* shit. Go look up the list of the countries on the Human Development Index. Of the 18 countries with a score greater than or equal to 0.900, there are only three non-white ones: Japan, Hong Kong, South Korea.\n\nYou all are angry that Trump pointed out something everyone with a brain already knows, because you people are so wrapped up in your stupid identity politics shit that you'd rather ignore reality than say, do, or think anything that could be perceived as 'racist'.\n\nOr did you all seriously only just realize that of the 195 countries on Earth, 150 of them are dirt-poor armpits where most of the population's drinking water is literally less clean than the water we shit in every single day?",
">\talmost as if he knows economics\n\nIf you think Trump knows anything of substance about economics, you're high. \n\n>\tMaybe you know about the uranium one deal?\n\nYou mean the thoroughly debunked, evidence-less, and nonexistent uranium one deal? Y'all just like to throw out things and then claim that's enough \"That deal that Hillary made! I don't know about it, but it's Hillary so it must be bad!\"\n\n>\tWhat kind of election rigging and collusion gives your opposition more votes?\n\nFun fact, it's not \"election rigging,\" it's the stupid way the American electoral system was set up. It's happened before that the winner of the popular vote has lost the election, so it's not like this is some new thing that the Dems just made up in 2016. ",
"It's not like the economy is roaring right now, the country is securing its borders and purging itself of illegal immigrants? I mean, if things were bad they may have a point, but things have never been better. ",
"In this context\n\n> How to win your argument: 1) repeat the same things back to the person who just said that idiotic statement\n\nquoting the person is obviously not the intent, but repeating what that person said towards that person in his tone\n\nQuoting is a different context. While it may not be distinguishable in speech if you don't mark it as such, that is different in formatted text. Quoting in text is clearly visible as a quote.\n\nTo win the argument, you'll have to talk back to him. If you're just quoting without further text you did nothing. You quoted what was written. That has no statement or argumentation value.\n\nIn contrary to quoting, by writing/saying the same again, it is not a non-value quote but a deliberate statement.",
"That's just one of many of the senseless impulses that got Trump elected. \"Consequences be damned, I just want an entertaining fireworks show.\"",
"Edgy",
"ummm I don't think so sweety, it's your job to provide me with a link so I can attack the source and save myself from cognitive dissonance owies instead of actually considering your argument.",
"I don’t think the US owes anything to anyone (out side of our contractual obligations), and solving problems at home needs to a priority, but taking in above average people is never going to be a bad thing. \n\nAlso I get a good feeling whenever some natural disasters happens and we park one of those floating hospitals we have there for a couple weeks/months ",
"Ok.",
"so does practically every other major city in the US.",
"It actually feels like a decade.",
"First with Logan Paul, and now this. Can't wait for Trump to get Pyongchang confused with Pyongyang next month.\n\n",
"immature, toxic, childish",
"Nice touch, took me a moment to catch the other thing",
"Oh totally! And no one is even talking about the Fusion GPS report about how Slippersnek22 on Reddit is a moron who just makes shit up! Damn liberal media.",
"It's Jan 12th. We haven't even made it halfway through the first month. I don't have enough vodka. (Pun intended)",
"It's awful to think I was right but like a year ago I had a theory that Trump was placed in the White House by Russia to disenfranchise the ",
"California is that kid that becomes more defiant as the parents asks anything more of them just to be whiny aholes. They literally confuse themselves with shut morals and horrible values and terrible points of view lol",
"I would say yes. Is it worthy of the spectacle it's become to call a shithole country a shithole in a closed door meeting? Is it even worthy of a mention how many scoops of ice cream a person gets?",
">anti-immigration stances\n\nWhat anti-immigration stance towards legal immigration? ",
"We hate Trump here with a passion here in the Philippines. He funded our president who advocated the bloody war against drugs. And that money was used to execute suspected people with a single shred of proof. \n\nThose who are found with drugs on their body are found to be planted by the police so they could say that the war against drugs are winning.\n\nAmerican Tax money is being bought to fund corrupt policemen and buy guns that kill innocent students and adults. So yeah, we hate that deluded Cheetos you call president. \n\nAnyway, our president is just like him, blaming the Liberals and blaming the last administration. And we hate him too. Sadly, deluded conservatists blindly support these stupid misogynistic racist and sexist turds. ",
"http://mochimachine.org/wasteland/\n\n\nPoop map\n",
"Also some of them may just not have wanted anything but Clinton. But didn’t expect this level of shitty President ",
"Artists are some of the most intelligent and capable people. Do not mess with someone who can capture all your faults in a single frame.",
"And this is why I believe Trump is fairly intelligent, at least when it comes to manipulating people. Don't get me wrong he's a horrible leader and a worse human being but he knows how to work a crowd.",
"So you're using an example of extreme left actions to group all of the left in? I am a libertarian and can clearly see the extreme on both sides. You should do the same. Have you seen the extreme right and what they believe in? Death to non Christians and anybody not white. What side of the extreme would you pick? Neither",
"Taken from my other reply:\n\nWe hate Trump here with a passion here in the Philippines. He funded our president who advocated the bloody war against drugs. And that money was used to execute suspected people with a single shred of proof.\n\nThose who are found with drugs on their body are found to be planted by the police so they could say that the war against drugs are winning.\n\nAmerican Tax money is being bought to fund corrupt policemen and buy guns that kill innocent students and adults. So yeah, we hate that deluded Cheetos you call president.\n\nAnyway, our president is just like him, blaming the Liberals and blaming the last administration. And we hate him too. Sadly, deluded conservatists blindly support these stupid misogynistic racist and sexist turds.",
"Could have been using one of the swipey keyboard settings which always seem to fuck up when you go back and forth over multiple letters close to each other, and then he pressed enter instead of back when he was trying to correct it. Although I have a hard time believing he texts with anything other than one-fingered hunt-and-peck typing.",
"All they have to do to remove it is to have someone stand in front of the projector.",
"It's shameful that whenever the President says something profane behind closed doors, the media and anti-Trumpers plaster the words everywhere for the youth to see. ",
"That is an ad hominem attack, friend. If there is daily with his argument, fight your battle there. Your tactic did naught but strengthen the resolve of your competitor",
"They're doing it because they can't get arrested, as they aren't defacing property. It's a genius political move.",
"Username checks out.",
"I go to school in the city. Some parts really do reek of shit, especially around the Tenderloin where my class had to spend time doing service-learning stuff.",
"Yes still manages to pop up in every list of \"best cities to live in America\".",
"\"Fact based,\" LOL. Uh-huh. In a world of making up your own facts to feed your own low self-esteem, I guess.\n\nHere's a fact for you: Out of the top 10 cities in America with the highest tourism, 4 are in California, with San Francisco being at the top. But hey, you couldn't cut it, so they must all be shit-holes.\n\nI'm sorry you couldn't afford a better life in one of the best, most educated, highest earning cities in America, and one of the most visited by tourists for a reason. I'm sure calling them all shit-holes will help you get ahead in life somehow, maybe even be president.",
"Do you have proof that he intentionally fired into the crowd? Because even the court seemed to believe otherwise.",
"Statistics are automatically fake for Trumpets when it is negative about Trump. ",
"I prefer to start mine April 1st.",
"Tbh I think he's right about the Koreas, it is a result of Trump, but it's certainly NOT intentional. South Korea sees the way that Trump and Kim Jong-Un are talking to each other, and realize that the only way to avoid another Korean War is to finally make peace with North Korea. ",
"GASP! Not an official meeting?!?!?! With members of the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT?!?!?!\n\n",
"Pretty harsh calling San Francisco a shithole.",
"Slippersnek22... Reddit's senile, racist uncle at Thanksgiving dinner.",
"And yet it was the people from these counties that trump didn't want allow in based on their shit hole origin",
"Which is why it is important to admit you need a mental break, and take one. But always return. The amount of psychological stress the entire globe is experiencing now is overwhelming. You need to disengage at times. But you must always return. Never ignore it and don't disengage too long. Or change will never come.",
"> If you think Trump knows anything of substance about economics, you're high.\n\nWhy? What made you come to this conclusion?\n\n> You mean the thoroughly debunked, evidence-less, and nonexistent uranium one deal? \n\nBy debunked do you mean ‘it’s just a coincidence’? Because even Snopes who records it as false admits that the Clinton foundation received kickbacks in the wake of the deal. If you are really willing to believe that’s a coincidence, cool I know where you stand on the intelligence spectrum\n\n> Fun fact, it's not \"election rigging,\" it's the stupid way the American electoral system was set up. It's happened before that the winner of the popular vote has lost the election, \n\nThis doesn’t even address the substance of my point which is that an actual rigging would’ve ensured trump was the popular candidate. Secondly, ‘the electoral college is only bad when it works against me’. When Obama won, did you decry electoral college? I didn’t. It does exactly what it is supposed to do.",
"I'm jealous, you guys in the US get the celebrate and eat huge meals because you celebrate thankshitholing day.",
"last i checked somalia has nice beaches doesn't mean I wanna vacation there.",
"Or rational human beings that realize that all the faux outrage is ludicrous.",
"Shithole got lucky it doesn't have to compete with covfefe.",
"Ah, the I'm Rubber You're Glue.\n\nSee also 'snowflakes'. ",
"More t than a",
"The whole world hates that cowardly lyin",
"Sure, there's absolutely nothing racist about implying Asians are inherently smarter..",
"As an American it's quite fascinating as well. It feels like most of us are getting pulled in two different directions as they get more and more extreme, sure one is worse than the other but the base problem exists in both sides without any real push to solve them at their core.",
"Not my president.",
"Well said. People are more worried about the image than the substance. You've just mentioned the substance right there and that's what should really matter. He chose a poor word...get over it.",
"Others have already listed them in response to your emotional tirade. ",
"Just watch out for Groundhog Day. It’s a doozy!",
"Well to be honest isn’t the whole Trump dossier a virtue signal to obtain FISAs? From what I understand the whole investigation and the original time line doesn’t make sense. Seems like the FISA laws were totally dodged by a few agents that just happened to be the same ones on Hillary’s case. I would think those agents would have notes and reports to finish since the two high profile cases were so close to each other. Don’t they have better resources for this? And Fusion GPS leaked testimony just seems like a way for others to coordinate a story. \n\nMaybe I have been looking at the investigation wrong? I don’t read any hard right news but I do think it’s fair to read news slightly right of center instead of only CNN and WaPo like 75% of my news comes from. There’s just something that’s been kinda fishy lately about FISAs. ",
"Looks like you posted is politics! No good bitches just ask your bot!",
"Cool",
"It was during a live set I saw at Outside Lands. Don't know if he recorded it anywhere.",
"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only\nway to be sure... Oh, wait...",
"Seven more years, snowflake.",
"> So you'd ban all Haitians because of that figure?\n\nNobody ever said anything about 'banning Haitians', not even Trump, and don't give me some dumb bullshit where you try to extrapolate something from what he said, because we have literally nothing proving exactly what he said or the context around it.\n\nHowever, if the question was \"where should we focus the finite amount of time and money we have\", uh yeah, Haiti can go to the bottom of the pile. If I have a stack of immigration applications and I can only get through 50 a day, I'm going to find better candidates in the Europe pile than I am in the Sub-Saharan Africa pile. \n\nBut like I said, we don't even know what Trump's alleged remark was even referring to so this is all conjecture. All we know, based on what he allegedly said, is that he thinks there's some places on the planet that can be described as 'shitholes'. And they're pretty much all places that if you asked people last week, 99% would agree are shitholes.",
"Ask Hillary Clinton why Haiti is a 'shithole'!",
"I'm Irish, i couldn't give a fuck.",
"With a long red Scotchtaped tie",
"Drain the swamp and make it a shithole. ",
"It is almost like there is a series of these occur ancestors and the public and news media still has not figured it out. OMG, the racist dementia patient said something racist! Umm, so what. Hey Rube! ",
"Naivity can be a wonderful thing.",
"Shithole is the word your looking for, America is a Shithole. ",
"No I think a president shouldn't talk like a preschooler, because, you know, he's a president, not a preschooler.",
"$100% bills for everyone.\n\n",
"Majority??? Source that bullshit you're spewing\n\n>vast majority\n\nLol",
"Yeah, try and not step in the homeless urine as you exit your 3200/mo 1 bedroom apartment ",
"Why not both?",
"No, he said he didn't want people from shithole countries coming here. As in, not a skill-based immigration program, but a country of origin-based program. And he doesn't want people from majority black countries.\n\nAlso, where did you read that he said he wanted more Asians? All the articles I've read said that he used Norway as an example of a nation we should have more immigrants from.",
"So they're no skilled Haitians? One of the best developers I know is Haitian. \"More Asians\" is racist bro. \n\"More skilled people\"... Sure. \"Stop giving away random residency?\" Maybe. \n\"Shithole countries\"? We can't make that ok. It's not ok. ",
">\tAnd yet he has accomplished more in one year than any of his predecessors.\n\nYou do realize that as soon as he said that, it was immediately debunked by every news station except Fox, right? \n\n>\tthe way you think he should \n\nAh yes, my bad for wanting my president to act, I don't know, presidential, and not acting like a big fucking baby, tweeting his every grievance and calling people names. Because every other ~~president~~ normal adult has acted like that too. ",
"Those are the same.",
"Even if it's easy to say that the US is a laughing stock, if half the country is constantly grasping at straws to delegtimize the current administration through means of smearing over unimportant tabloid issues:\n\n-Like the president asking for two scoops of ice cream\n-Mike Pence tweeting how he was thankful and humble to have had a conversation with two former vice presidents and hopes to be as good as them (one of which was Joe Biden), and immediately all his haters just bash him that he'll never be as good as they were and hurl insults unrelated to what he was talking about\n-when people gloat over the fact that the president forgot the words to the national anthem despite aggressively accusing players taking a knee were being un-American\n-when you have people protesting at places where Mike Pence is with gay parties and putting up LGBT flags, but the Secret Service doesn't stop them because it's their 1st amendment right to be able to (and then the last instance I heard was protestors got embarrassed when they were told that from SS agents, felt embarrassed, and ended up feeding them and giving them drinks because it was cold out wherever Mike Pence was vacationing during the holidays)\n\nIt's easy to say that our president makes our country a laughing stock. But I think what really makes the idea true is when half the country is purposefully acting out and always decrying how it's the end of the world, our country will go down in flame, that people will die just because Trump is in office... It's completely outrageous. He's not a horrible President, just a controversial one because he has no filter with his words, and believe or not, some people appreciate his raw honesty, because not ever shares the sentiments of the anti-Trump camp. What President Trump has effectively done, whether intentional or unintentional, is raise issues to the table that were considered taboo due to political correctness and a fear of being offensive.\n\nWhen you have people hurling just as much, if not more tasteless insults than the president himself, then they become no better themselves. If people who are against this president hate him so, then they should continue to be critical of his policies to signal him that people are paying attention and they will call him out when he is actually making a bad move when it comes to his policymaking. But if all the focus is mostly going to be on tabloids and scandals stirred up from thin air and non-issues, then it's only fair to say that as a country, we are also part of the problem of making our country a laughing stock. Because to the rest of the world, I'm very sure it seems absolutely silly to them that half its citizens are throwing tantrums, and they must think it's amusing and quite possibly want more of it. Other countries would love to be the US, to be the number one military and economy power on the globe. Meanwhile, other countries at least enjoy a normal level of solidarity, unlike ours.\n\nBut my prediction is the longer this bad behavior continues, the more people will get sick of it. They'll get sick of the toxicity coming from other people that gets stirred in with politics. People will get tired of having the relationships destroyed over politics. They'll get tired of fearing about their livelihoods being ruined over politics. They'll get tired of the end of the world outcries. People have their own lives and problems to attend to. Getting more upset and yelling at the sky (quite literally) won't do anything. What people need to do is respect each other again and learn to have healthy debates again without attacking each other and going into them with smug attitudes. It will happen, and I can wait.",
"Agreed. Though if Paul Ryan had an ounce of political courage he’d see to the impeachment of both Trump and Pence NOW. (The Flynn bullshit alone would be enough to damn them both in any normal circumstances... aka if the Republican Party hadn’t lost its mind). That way he’d be president and give himself three years to try and salvage the party’s reputation ahead of 2020.\n\nThough courage of any kind is waaaayyy too much to expect from the speaker of the house.\n\nEdit: typo.",
"How else besides mostly agreeing not to kill/rob each other, occasionally work together for common goals, and contribute to a common system to maintain certain services that everyone needs?",
"> He fucked up and won. \n\nHe couldn't even lose on purpose.\n\n",
"I'm confused. When, exactly, did the right wish death to non-Christians and anyone not white?\n\nIf you need examples of violence on the left you can look at most of their rallies and marches.",
"What do you mean by they? Sounds rasict.",
"Because democrats need voters and accusations of racism are a convenient tool to demonize anyone against their goals, regardless of whether it's true or makes sense.",
"I'm a legal immigrant. My entire family is 1st gen. Have no bad feelings towards illegal immigrants. Don't speak for all of us.",
"you didn't answer the question",
"So? Obama was your president whether you liked it or not, and you all *hated* him. ",
"So do more than a billion ethnic Chinese people all over the world.",
"The new years starts in spring after the snow is gone.. December 31/January 1 what's the difference? No new years starts when the snow melts ",
"There is a South African serial killer named Moses Sithole. Maybe that's what he meant and auto-correct changed it.",
"So I guess he’s technically not a shithole either",
"No news organizations were in the room to my knowledge. Republican Lindsay graham was and he confirmed trump's \"shithole\" comment. What else ya got? ",
"Source please.",
"Bro. You are dense.",
"The more real the president gets, the more sanctimonious and hysterical all leftist assholes become. Nothing ever has been so effective in seperating the weed from the chaff. Trump exposes the disgusting part of the population and brings it to light like lifting the lid from a cesspit. Yep it's disgusting as hell as we get swarmed by millions of shit flies but it's also cleaning and refreshing. ",
"Sadly, Trump is PROUD of this. What we really need is Shepard Fairey. He did the Original HOPE poster for Obama, own his own volition.\n\nWe need him now to do a new stencil of Trump. It just says “Divide Us.”",
"I'm actually torn about impeachment, because Pence will push for much of the same horrible policies without Trump's incompetence to slow him down.",
"Jesus dude. I don't like Trump but go after a child that age.. You're pathetic. ",
"Are you Jeremy Tooker?",
"The American Dream has always been real. It's just that we want it to be the American Certainty. I think.\n\nThe fact that new millionaires and new successful people are minted every year tells you that the Dream is very much alive. We're just so much more aware of all the rest who tried and failed.",
"Respectfully disagree with your assessment of him.\n\nI said that there is no evidence that he is a 'considered thinker', and obviously by 'considered thinker' one would imagine a person who carefully processes information before offering opinion and comment on it.\n\nHe does not do this. You'd be hard pressed to find a psychoanalyst that agrees with your position that he is either intelligent enough to do this or actually believes he does this based on the evidence.\n\nHe was perfect for reality tv *because* he is this way, not that he *acted* this way to be perfect for reality tv.\n\nIf you think that he is a different person outside the media spotlight I disagree. This is him, It's actually what he is like.\n\nYes, I agree that not giving him attention would dis-empower him, but seeing as he is the president of the United States, is a one man circus act, and has a posse of reporters looking for more train crash quotes, I doubt that's a viable solution",
"Are you seriously disputing the DNC leaks? It was kind of a big news story. The Dems didn't try to deny the contents of the emails that were leaked, they just made up some bullshit that the emails were \"hacked\" to divert attention. Are you seriously unaware of this?",
"Sooo true ",
"Funny since it was Obama that was funding your President for most of his term so far. Also, no most people in your country don't hate Trump just the people in your bubble which is small",
"This is the look of \"this is my life now\". Yeah, she was the daughter of a billionaire, with no real problems and lots of money, nobody really knew who she was unless she mentionned her name, she could do whatever she wanted. Now she's in tabloids and can't do shit without paparazzi and criticism. I would not be happy either.",
"GENERALITIES DO NOT MEAN THAT LITERALLY EVERY PERSON APPLIES you fucking idiot. \n\nSeriously, you don't understand that concept? ",
"Screw three years of this firehose of bullshit! Bernie Sanders for Speaker of the House, ie President post-impeachment ASAP",
"False. The conversation they were having in the Oval Office was about legally accepted immigrants, under the “temporary protected status” and “diversity lottery” programs.",
"How can she clap!?",
"Hells yes. P.T. Barnum would be proud.",
"We still have 11 months to find better",
"Never doubt that the narrative is controlled. Just not by him. \n\nEverything about US politics is designed to keep us from eyeballing the 100 or so people who genuinely run this world. \n\nLiterally, the Biggest, Craziest distraction possible. ",
">People who post on here who speak English as a language should be ashamed at how they don't know their own language.\n\nOh, the irony.",
"He wasn't my president, and at first i did like him. People thought it was a new era. Then turned out he was selling you the same lies that Clintons and bush were feeding people. He fucked America more than Trump is, he just done it on the downlow behind the curtains. ",
"It's not even a matter of not liking it. It's completely classless and polarizing in a meeting about a bill that had bipartisan support. Absolutely unprofessional and not presidential. If anyone else in America said the same thing during a company meeting, they would be fired. Including CEO's. ",
"The point was ‘trying to achieve a better future for these countries’ which is nobody’s job except the countries in question. It is not the job of the US to look after shithole countries",
"\\*Norway",
"I would agree.... Next question?",
"These people are so dumb. Trump says shithole entire media swarms in. No one talks about how they reactivated new surveillance laws... look over there! Trump said guinea pig! While more laws pass right under our noses. Fuck the media. ",
"A merit-based system is going to exclude 99% of people from places like Haiti who otherwise would've gotten through in a lottery system. \n\nIt doesn't make it more inappropriate, he's just saying the fucking reality of things: if you go with a merit-based approach that countries like, I don't know, *fucking Norway* do, then it's going to mean that countries that are total shitholes are effectively off the table from consideration.\n",
"Till he drops “Those negros”",
"I thought it was gonna be \"stable genius\" but this \"shithole\" one Trumps it.",
"#HAHAAAHAHAH ",
"He fired a stolen gun, in public and his actions resulted in the death of an innocent woman. A felon who has been deported 5 times. Was acquitted not only of murder but also assault with a deadly weapon. \n\nThey convicted him of being a felon in possession of a firearm and he'll do a year oe two maybe. They'll deport him... Again. And he'll turn his ass right around and come back.. Again. \n\nIts amazing that people on this site defend this literal piece of shit because Trump talked about him as an example of why we need stricter immigration laws. ",
"Yeah, but your cars never stay on the road or obey traffic laws.\n\nThat isn't a street. It's an elongated toilet that you can drive through.",
"Let's say a dad of a 6 year old routinely swears around the house. His kid repeats these profanities at school in front of his teacher and all the other kids. Who's most at fault? \n\ndo you also get mad at the mirror for showing your imperfections? \n\nthe president constantly complains about people he once trusted leaking information. these are people he hired. is he that bad of a judge of character? or is he saying things \"behind closed doors\" because he trusts that the people he hired WILL leak what he said giving him both a platform for his obscenities while also hiding behind \"ohh i don't think something that offensive (yes i do)\" and people that agree with his sentiments will claim it's okay to talk like that \"in private\" it's everyone who is offended that is actually wrong ",
"But my birthday is the day before Valentine's day. Can we start it then instead? ",
"The context and meaning is completely different. Also yeah that's not very professional either. ",
"Jesus. The Democratic Party is far from perfect, but this pox on both their houses nonsense is exactly what Republicans (who are far far worse) want. \n\nEven if Democrats fail to live up to their own standards sometimes, at least they have them.",
"It's insane that someone can't be removed from office if their party is dominating. How does that make any sense?",
"He is a dick stain according to Michael rappaport. I️ happen to agree!",
"I love how all these people are pretending that they only *just* noticed that the vast majority of the most developed countries are all white majority.\n\nThere's 195 or so countries. Like, 30-40 are white majority, and almost all of them are ranked higher than the other 150. The worst-performing white countries are the extremely poor Eastern European nations like Moldova and Romania, and they're still not even in the bottom 25% by metrics like GDP per capita. \n\nIf Trump had said 'developed nations' and 'undeveloped/developing/failed nations', it would've literally meant the same thing, but somehow it probably would've been \"not racist\". Even though developed nations basically just means 'white countries', plus Japan and South Korea. ",
"I'm not the fucking president. ",
"Yes that guy. Was that supposed to prove something?",
"I believe Trump did during the campaign. Paraphrasing here, I believe he said something along the lines of “they (Mexico) don’t give us their good people. They send us their rapists and murderers over the border” implying that the Mexicans in our country are in large part violent criminals. Whatever your stance is on immigration, a vast majority of illegal aliens are not violent criminals. ",
">says we’re mentally ill\n\n>chooses the name Dick Fart champion\n\n>MFW",
"RIPOP",
"Now, as a question, did you *read* that post, or did you ignore it? Regardless of what you think of the bunch of 'em, it's a good idea to see how all sides think about a topic / what they consider to be promises / how they determine fulfilled vs not.",
"Google the term 'shithole'. Your answer was all over the news yesterday",
"I feel like most people have never read the yearly crime statistics, that state that foreigners and uneducated immigrants proportionally commit the most crimes. ",
"Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Vietnam, and Cambodia all love Trump. You should also look up the word Chinese people call white liberals. Indonesia and Malaysia also don't have a problem with Trump. They even defended the travel ban.",
"No, one year ago Obama was still President - Trump's only been on the job for 354 days",
"The extreme right has actual Nazi's and KKK members. At one of there rally's a man drove his car into a crowd of liberals, killing one. Does this mean republicans are murderous nazi kkk members? No, there are terrible people on both sides but using outliers to mar the group is irresponsible.",
"Name calling, no facts . . .proving my point that you lot are a bunch of whiny kids. Sad for the nation. . \n\nQuestion: Are you receiving a tax cut? Assuming you're not a millionaire . . . most Americans are. The vast majority of them being middle class. You have no idea what a big deal that is. . . Before you spill your Kool Aid, try looking up factual information. \"Tax cuts only for millionaires\" - Puh-leaase.\n\nUnemployment was low with Obama - Its lower right now, you do realise? Isn't that a good thing? Why does it have to be zero sum?\n\nStock Market is a bubble waiting to explode: Okay, financial genius, you, i've been hearing that since Nov 2016. I hope you've fully liquidated your portfolio since you're so concerned.\n\nWhat part of Puerto Rico doesn't have power? Are you aware of any details or just parroting what you hear? You do realise that the government of Puerto Rico is democrat and they drove that territory into near bankruptcy over their tenure? The recovery is definitely not finished, but the progress has been pretty good from the status website of FEMA: http://status.pr/\n\nYou're complaining for what exactly? All i'm seeing is people hesitant to acknowledge to good work of someone they dislike.",
"The question was irrelevant to the problem.\n\n(Pretty typical type of question of people browsing /r/T_D btw) ",
"The extreme left vastly outnumber the extreme right, and the leaning left generally agree and maintain friendships with their extreme folks. They're very welcome in a general office setting.\n\nThe far right \"death to non Christians and anybody not white\" exist in very small numbers, are outcasts of society, don't survive in any office setting, and the average conservative wouldn't have a clue who any of them are. \n\nThe media loves to group normal conservatives together with skinheads, but it's clearly not the case. \n\nMost conservatives value family ideals, personal responsibility, fiscal responsibility, defense of what they've worked for, and a non invasive government. \n\nPS: Libertarian is farther right than most conservatives. ",
"timespace is weirder",
"You fucking goddamn moron. \n\nFirst, I said he's ineloquent. He's not capable of articulating the minutia of a robust immigration policy.\n\nSecond, do you know how generalities work? Seriously, do you???",
"That's a straw man. There's no reason to ask that question unless you're attempting to divert attention from his remarks.",
"Umm no. Those two Senators said they \"didn't recall\" him saying that specifically. The two Senators that did recall (Graham and Durban) have stated that all of the reporting is accurate. NO ONE in the meeting (except the President) has unequivocally denied it, including the three other Senators who haven't commented.",
"San Francisco is, itself, a shithole. ",
"San Francisco = Shithole",
"Melania is here illegally. ",
"That new tax plan was explicitly credited by major employers as the reason to raise wages and give bonuses.\n\nI mean, FFS, WALMART is handing out bonuses and raising wages. Walmart! The perennial evil employer!",
"And have you seen all the haters who comment on his tweets? They're not any better.",
"You fuckhead the president of the United States Job is 100% diplomacy at the highest level. \nASIAN is a race. You dumbass. There are MANY Asian countries. If you stop people from fucking Narnia from coming here. Then everyone one (not generally everyone) from Narnia is not allowed. Get it?\nGo back to building your wall 😂 you look SO stupid and think you know it. ",
"You highlight the single biggest thing that is wrong with world politics and the left right fighting... The sheep get so caught up in what is really non news and don't even bat an eye lid at their constitution being changed to erode their freedoms.... Utter idiots. Also Haiti is a shit hole, as is Detroit based on the last 10 years of news reports.",
"He obviously wasn't talking about the youngest one. He isn't even in the picture.",
"Well... the two aren't unrelated.\n\n*edit* homelessness and high cost of living aren't unrelated",
"I mean that is literally what he ran on, or how else are you supposed to explain MAGA?",
"I did read them. Don't worry",
"Well avoided, all the best.",
"This should read \"SURVEILLANCE BILL\" instead.",
"A Haitian would probably live anywhere but in a shithole. But why should anyone want mostly uneducated people from a shithole in their country? ",
"You are confused? The data is everywhere.\n\nhttps://qz.com/1057835/a-taxonomy-of-american-far-right-hate-groups/",
"^(I'm not stupid :()",
"Of course it's opinion. You say that like opinions are a bad thing.\n\nFeel free to offer a rebuttal with some supporting 'real info'.\n\nI did cite the *fact* that people qualified in the field of mental health have expressed serious concerns about his fitness for office.\nAnd I did quote an esteemed predecessor of his who held the same office, as evidence of a higher moral standard (John Adams opposed slavery and never owned a slave and had a political minded wife who also actively spoke out against slavery), those things are *real info*.",
"Of course not. I’m quite obviously disputing your hilarious characterization of the content of the emails.",
"Nice case of whataboutism. If San Francisco is a shit hole, they don't get to criticise the rascist comments from the president? It doesn't work that way.",
"Hillary had a 98% chance of winning",
"\"San Francisco, where the shithole is king!\"",
"THE BEST",
"The brigading is pretty blatant ITT\n\nPity all the T_Derps can’t fuck off back to their shithole",
"Don't forget anti-EA and anti-Logan Paul. If you want a lot of Internet point, mock any of those. If you could lump all three into on meme, reddit would collectively jizz.",
"Really?",
"Even Republicans that attended the meeting confirmed he said it. The White House won't even go on record denying it. The only person denying it is the man that said it and only on Twitter where he can lie without repercussions.",
"Trump has done nothing to positively affect the economy. He's riding on the coattails of his predecessor and trying to take credit for it. If anything, his statements and executive orders have hurt international tourism to the US.\n\nThe only arguably positive influence he's had has been on the stock market. And we all know that the stock market is essentially an overblown casino run by sociopaths that does not reflect the health of the country's economy.\n\n",
">\tWhat made you come to this conclusion?\n\nWhat made you come to the conclusion that he *does* know anything? Because all signs so far have shown that he *doesn't*. As usual, Trump supporters just try and flip the argument without addressing the issue. \n\n>\tI know where you stand on the intelligence spectrum\n\nAnd I know where you stand by supporting Trump. If we're going to devolve into calling names, it's not that hard to do the same to you. But of course, thats all Trump supporters know how to do. \n\n>\t an actual rigging would’ve ensured trump was the popular candidate\n\nExactly, so it wasn't rigged. And why would it have ensured that? The popular vote essentially doesn't matter, all you have to win is the electoral college, as I pointed out before that it's happened in the past, so, if you *were* going to rig an election, why spend extra energy and money trying to convince several million people (enough to ensure the popular vote) to vote for Trump, when you could just convince a few thousand instead (enough to ensure the electoral college vote)? It's a lot more cost effective that way. ",
"So brave.",
"If his words are given so much limelight, then we might end up a special edition Trump dictionary. \nThat would be if he manages to finish his 'presidential' term.",
"I mean it isn't just \"shit like this\". It is a pretty big deal if you are an immigrant (like myself) or from these \"shithole countries\". I am not saying that surveillance stuff is not important but seeing the leader of a country say things like this speaks volumes on what he is like and what he plans to do.",
"Anyone who disagrees that haiti or large swaths of Africa is a shithole needs to go live there for 5 years.",
"I remember 30 years ago that my parents used to have political conversations with family members whom they disagreed with. \n\nNobody does that anymore. We all just turtle up when we encounter political adversity. ",
"> Well avoided\n\nI know, thanks, not the first time dealing with T_D people, all the best.",
"Candy suxxx? ",
"'Emotional tirade'.\n\nSorry for that, I was aiming more for clear, mature discussion. I did not mean to come across as 'emotional'.",
"No. It's a word. You don't get to define context that suits your narrative. That's a form of cowardice. If you want to support someone saying it, have a backbone and accept what it means.\n\n",
"Yet somehow 90% of the comments with 15-30 upvotes each are pro-Trump\n\nWhat a coincidence eh ",
"That's a very indecent comment for someone who cares so much about decency. All presidents are human beings and say naughty words in private just like us, believe it or not!",
"Ah, so now no one wants to be grouped into a \"basket of deplorables\" when they realized they're being grouped with bad behavior from extreme individuals. You really start to see why generalizing people for the actions of the few is a bad think once the shoe is finally on the other foot. Glad more people are taking notice of this, because we're long overdue with people disrespecting each other over political toxicity.",
"> He is a child. A vindictive, cruel, heartless, racist, selfish, impulsive, embarrassment. He needs gently leading away by the elbow and placing on a beach or near a golf course somewhere, so he can eat and drink himself into a hedonistic stupor while thinking his nasty thoughts about women and ethnic minorities.\n\nHey hey.. there is no need to caricature the whole US nation like this (even though you speak the truth),\n\n>He is a massive embarrassment to the USA, and a dark stain unworthy of his office.\n\nThe US is a embarrassment to itself, lets not pretend this whole \"world police\" debacle started with Trump. If anything Trump is the exact President the US deserves, Trump is America.",
"Older calendars used to do this iirc",
"OH. The G-Spotlight. Thank you",
"So, not liberal",
"I love how people are pretending that they only just noticed that 90% of white-majority countries are in the top 10% of human development.\n\nThere's a reason the term 'developed world' doesn't include a single country south of the equator except New Zealand and Australia.",
"nah you're right, mixed them up",
"It's not so much the word that he said but the fact that he said it in the context of making policy decisions about immigration. The fact the Trump is a racist is not a surprise, but to use racial animus as a basis of immigration policy is illegal. ",
"Huh? Figured this comment would have done better on Reddit. ",
"Shithole president is kickin azz though.",
"> Being a contentious wanker, an abhorrent example of humanity or simply milking the system is not \"criminal\". \n\nNo, but lying under oath is. And there's no way Trump could avoid lying if interrogated by Mueller.",
"You know there's different perspectives and opinions on what makes a strong society, right? Not just the one you currently have in your head?",
">Them\n\n>Sons\n\n>Douchebags",
"There's a war on Shitholes!",
"I'm serious. Do you know how generalities work??? ",
"Which is funny since he's working to make it more difficult to legally immigrate.",
"[Link] (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/162639/palace-welcomes-us-2m-support-ph-war-drugs-palace-trump-roque-duterte-us-support) \n\nAnd Obama's fund went to the reconstruction of typhoon Yolanda. Meanwhile, Trump directly funded our senseless War against drugs. \n\nAlso, Duterte hates Obama so yeah. \n\nHalf of my country is angry at Duterte and Trump. And many of my people, particularly students, are seeing how our president is a killer and your president a clown. That is not what I would call small. \n\n",
"It's no different than what Texas is doing. They're not just not illegal but are part of what defines states rights. ",
">\tDemocrats: he's not my president...\n\n>\tRepublicans: NO! HE'S YOUR PRESIDENT WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT! \n\n>\tDemocrats: ok...just like Obama was yours? \n\n>\tRepublicans: NO HE WASN'T MINEEE REEEEE\n\nClassic lol. ",
"Fine but we're keeping the 5th largest GDP in the world 🤷🏼♂️",
"I have also considered that maybe someone else is the master manipulator, but that would require them to have control over Trump, which even he seems to lack.",
"Finally a comment I can upvote!",
"Yup. It's definitely the most logical conclusion at this point. No one in his team or even his whole party was prepared for him to actually win.",
"This is like the modern version of the last supper",
"Or the fact that the city itself is literally one bridge away from one of the most violent, impoverished ghettos in the country. \n\nIt's almost like Oakland is a shithole. It's almost like most San Franciscans would agree Oakland is a shithole. \n\nBut then they'll call you racist for saying that.\n",
"Hours later....",
"HOnestly, what we all need is to fucking uncouple our brains from the fucking entertainment firehose and spend what meager time we have connecting with others with the goal of FIXING THIS FUCKING SHIT. ",
"I'm not American. So no, he wasn't my president. \n\nWhat is this now? 'Im going to say trump isn't my\nPresident because other people said Obama wasn't theirs? The immaturity in your country in unreal. ",
"I think that dominating the news cycle with stupid stuff is just what he does because he likes the attention. That this is actually useful for presidenting is a mere side effect.\n\nOf course it's possible that there's intend behind it but it is reasonably explained by narcisism and being the class clown. And I think that's more likely the truth.",
"He *is* president of a shithole country.",
"Really? Are you an: a) bot b) racist or c) troll?",
"Traitors.",
"It was literally Trump's opening statement in his campaign",
"In vice city you promote a porno film for a studio that you buy this way. You drive a motorcycle from rooftop to rooftop until you reach a spotlight that Tommy uses to project the logo for the lead actress, Candy Suxx. It looks like a face with boobs for eyes and the word \"suxx\" shaped like a mouth.",
"And there is still that 2%. Statistically, Trump could win by a very small chance and it did. So what are you implying? ",
"How so?",
"When you can name 200 GOP shitholes (like that one?) combined that contribute more to America than they do, let's talk.",
"The Republicans ARE acting as enabling traitors to this administration. I agree. ",
"🖒",
"It’s very practical too. You can beam it from your car and by the time the police arrive, you can roll up the window and leave.",
"Yeah try this shit in eastern kentucky and you won't make it out of the county alive. ",
"I'm sure you did!! ",
"Reddit is one big liberal shithole, I blame shareblue and bots.",
"That's literally not true. It's the complete opposite of the truth. Immigrants commit a fraction of the crime that citizens do and it's not even close. ",
"> John Adams, 1797-1801\n\nDid John Adams die aged 4 or did he say that quote really slowly?",
"Really nice lighting in this pic. Excellent framing. I definitely can see how this pic made it to the top",
"In all honesty San Francisco isn't that bad, and most of the city definitely is '1%' territory.\n\nThe real irony you want to point out is that San Francisco is just one bridge away from Oakland, one of the most awful shithole ghettos in the country. ",
"Odd how you are so proud to publicly support a mental infant. Lol, learn a bit of basic judgment skills, boy. Maybe you won't be so easy to con, then.",
"What the hell are you even talking about? There is no epidemic of immigrants. Your economic problems come from your own politics and the people they serve, and your weird cultural nativist bullshit is childish nonsense we don't have time for. Grow up and stop being such a scared baby.",
"Sorry I'm trying to keep up... would this make the person projecting the image racist?",
"This is a city where homeless people literally shit on the streets.\n\nCould 2018 be better than 2017?? It sure seems like it.😂🤣",
"LOL. Trump 2020. Wait for it. ",
">The Tennessee Department of Safety, which issues and oversees carry permits statewide, suspends or revokes a permit only in arrests or convictions for violent crimes\n\n\nRight in the article.",
"That 30% approval rating is sure “kickin azz”.",
"Here's a map showing the sheer destruction of ISIS after the Trump administration took over: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/76re94/gif_syrian_and_iraqi_insurgencies_the_fall_of/?st=jcd9cajq&sh=16ee5b14\n\nIf i may jog your memory back a little over a year when they had fighters carry out attacks on a nightclub in Paris, beheading foreign nationals and holding others hostage, hell . .they were making 3 BILLION US DOLLARS A YEAR from their oil fields and other activities: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3003919/Are-ISIS-earning-2billion-year-New-study-terror-group-s-income-suggests-previous-estimates-far-low.html . .All this under the Obama Administration. There's just no point being so militantly stubborn in admitting their wipe out was a **Good Thing**. It happened because, amongst other things, the Trump administration relaxed the previously obstructionist Rules of Engagement adopted in Syria to one that allowed the military more leeway in taking calls on strategy and wiping the monsters out.\n\nYou call him old, you call him a fool. . . really? This is a democracy! If you disagree with his policies, spell out **Why** stop being a child.",
"It's felt like 3",
"It's almost as if people exist that don't agree with you.",
"In the three hours-plus that Hillary Clinton spoke with FBI investigators about her private email server on July 2, she cited more than three-dozen things that she could not recall.\n\nAmong the other things Clinton could \"not recall\" or \"did not remember,\" according to the summary of her interview with the FBI:\n\na briefing or training given by the State Department on the retention of federal records or handling of classified information\n\nhow often she used her Original Classification Authority (OCA) or any training or guidance that State Department provided on that\n\nany specific briefing on handling classified information associated with Special Access Programs (SAP)\n\na specific process for nominating a target for a drone strike\n\nwhy the State Department was unable to provide her with a secure BlackBerry\n\nreceiving any emails she thought didn't belong on an unclassified system\n\nreceiving guidance from the State Department about the email policies contained in the Foreign Affairs Manual\n\nspecifically which aides had access to her BlackBerry and email accounts\n\nthe compromise of State Department employees' Gmail accounts\n\never using an iPad mini until after her time as secretary of state\n\nreceiving any Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests related to her email\n\nwho advised her to change her email address after Sidney Blumenthal's email account was compromised in 2013",
"> As usual, Trump supporters just try and flip the argument without addressing the issue. \n\nHow interesting it is that you’re doing the same thing. I think he understands economics because his economic policy is sound and has had some benefits for the economy. Growth is up, unemployment is down, etc. Even if that was the doing of some other entity, someone who’s bad at econ would probably mess that up. \n\n> But of course, thats all Trump supporters know how to do. \n\nMore of this. I made a joke but throughout this entire exchange you’ve seemed really salty. You didn’t address the point either. WHiCh I gUEsS iS AlL CliNToN SuPpOrtErs kNow hOw tO dO!\n\nIf we agree the election wasn’t rigged then cool we can drop it lol. If you think it was rigged to win the electoral vote, I’d like to see what that looks like, really. Politicians consistently target swing states and it doesn’t help them, so what short of voter fraud could be done?",
"How do you like your bigger paycheck? ",
"I think what he said was extremely insensitive and I disagree with a lot of policy decisions that have been made, but this seems like an extremely immature reaction. ",
"The average I.Q of most southern states is probably lower.",
"I hear Australia is nice this time of year.",
"I'm confused. Are you saying that they are shitholes because they are not socialist? ",
"What ties to the Russian Mafia and Italian Mafia are you talking about? Are you still referring to the building that Trump leased his name too, and the Russian mafia just happened to have some sort of office there? That’s a pretty far stretch. ",
"He's had a media distraction double whammy. Say the word, cause a fuss. The next day go to all the media and say you didn't say the word, and cause another fuss. He's an incompetent asshole, but he knows how to play the media sometimes.",
"A small number of extremist hate groups vs almost every leftist rally I see on TV.",
"I’ve seen human excrement on the sidewalks in San Francisco. Certain parts of the city have gotten really shitty.",
"except when the poor or average do it, they keep a few bucks but lose much more in social programs, infrastructure improvements, and government services. but hey, you saved a few bucks!",
"Seriously. This shithole thing doesn't even crack the top 10 in stupidest Trumpisms. Especially since 99% of people would agree that countries like South Sudan, Somalia, and Haiti actually are shitholes.",
"That's the Brits, the Aussies call you a cunt",
"RIP u/ShaggysGTI. He got too close to the truth.",
"Which is fine by me, that means that people will stop fucking coming here to live then, yeah?",
"25% of Nigerian immigrants hold masters degrees or higher. That's compared to ten percent of the White American population.\n\nAnd around 25% of so the doctors in the country are from those same poor nations.\n\nBut I'm sure they're not helping right? Your racist redneck ass is much more valuable working at Walmart right?",
"lol, I have came to enjoy watching libraloons flip out over the things the makes Trump the greatest president in our life time, blunt and to the point without all the fluff, \n\nIts is so refreshing to hear facts and truths over the politically correct versions ,\n\nNow, ask Josa who trekked across the dessert for 10 days to meet up with some cartel mule who wanted a years worth of wages to pile him in the back of an unventilated box truck with 30 other guys who are doing the same thing, so they could sneak into another country WHY ?, \n\nThen ask Josa if he wants to go back , so you can hear him say, \"\"i'm not going back to that shit hole\" .\n\n\n",
"I just came here to see triggered people, anybody want popcorn?",
"Idk at this point I was just kinda hoping Trump would realize the magnitude of his position and conduct himself accordingly. But it appears like that will never happen. \n\nIt’s like the fat kid on the playground. We know they are fat. They know they are fat. But we stfu about it because it’s rude and disrespectful in nature. Now imagine that person calling the kid fat is the President. Yikes. ",
"That the polls don’t matter ",
"So, like San Francisco, where the illegal immigrant shot and killed an innocent women, and got away with it?",
"people keep moving here for jobs, yet the peninsula is fully developed. plus, the weather is tolerable basically all year so a lot of homeless relocate here as well.",
"I wonder if it's the same person/group who did the projection at Twitter's HQ. ",
"Soooo how did you hear about it? ",
"motherfucker they still live in huts, what dignity",
"99% of San Franciscans would have agreed that Haiti was a shithole last week. Now they're actually going to live in a world of their own creation, where they literally believe it's racist to describe any white-minority country negatively.",
"> they might be taking advantage of an opportunity,\n\nK, how are they taking advantage?",
"I thought League of legends was salty....",
"Trump is actually accomplishing quite a bit. He's appointing lots of judges, cutting regulation, downsizing federal agencies that conservatives have a history of disliking etc. But those things aren't talked about in the media. Instead the media focuses on his tweets and comments. ",
"This is the city where everyone just shits and pisses in the streets right?",
"^^**SHITHOLE**\n\n**^^SARCASM**",
"Is that going to happen? Would certainly be \"interesting\", could be a record-breaking stream if broadcast live. [I'd tune in](https://i.imgur.com/qNvRUHt.gif).\n\nHe might be able to salvage it if he has legal council. Or maybe if they drug him, slip a little weed brownie into his breakfast or something. ",
"Don’t cut yourself on that edge, San Fran",
"People complain that Trump uses bad words on twitter, but then project curse words onto buildings. ",
"Yup, it is. Especially funny because San Francisco is a city where people do shit on ththe sidewalks.",
"Considering how many human feces you can find on the streets of SF - it is a shithole. :D",
"Obama still funded most of your Presidents term doesn't matter if he hates Obama. And again no most students don't give a fuck either way. The people that own your country and all the business people love him. Sorry doll but you're wrong and need to get out of your bubble.",
"If you expect me to believe 90% of the visitors from r/all are pro-Trump, all I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHA ",
"And why is Andy Dwyer there?",
"Ask all of the Trump supporters that have never met a Muslim before; or the ones that wear swastikas armbands or the Nazi salute; or the ones that buy shitloads of guns; or the ones that are just greedy old white men who just want even more money; or the ones that excused him for saying he grabs pussies; or the ones that themselves are under hear for sexual misconduct; of the ones that think former President Obama was a Muslim Kenyan.; or the ones dumb enough to that believe Trump was actually was a successful businessman on the Apprentice(because they thought The Apprentice was reality, instead of a television show produced for entertainment); or the ones that blame everything on \"libtards\" and believe everything is a liberal conspiracy theory to ruin the country. \n\nIf you can find someone who DOESN'T fit in one of those categories, then yes, they may actually be a Trump supporter that is only anti-immigrant towards illegal immigration. All 5 of them.\n\nEveryone else supporting Trump is just a fucking racist who thinks that saying \"I'm against illegal immigration\" is some super-secret code word that nobody else can figure out actually means \"I hate brown people, Muslims, and generally anyone that doesn't look like or think like me.\"",
"Look, trump is drinking a water bottle with TWO HANDS!\n\nPeople keep complaining that Republicans are using distractions in the media to pass bills and do other things, and people are mad at them for that. But why doesn't anybody seem to care that channels like CNN are still falling for that?",
"What would happen if such messages were projected on the White House?",
"> Especially since he is intentionally misrepresenting the situation. \n\nOh really? How?",
"Racist to oranges?",
"You literally can’t have a “private” conversation in the Oval Office. It is inherently of public interest. Secret sure, but this isn’t national security they were talking about, it was a domestic policy discussion with seven public officials. Public being the operative word.",
"Not trying to start anything here, but you are the one who jumped straight to name calling rather than debating the persons ideas. It actually makes you look rather stupid.",
"Now put some color on it and beam it on the whitehouse or his stupid florida swamp house.",
"Do you know how rich California is compared to whatever flyover state you're from? Maybe they know something you don't. Just about every red state is a drag on the US while every blue one supplements them (with the notable exception of Texas).",
"You’re kidding, right? If he takes a phone call or his wife comes in it should be news? Grow up an acknowledge the double standard.",
"I guarantee you every single president, behind closed doors, has let off steam or talked candidly and frankly. You really think Obama never went off on rants and raves about \"gun nuts\"? Obama was a pretty fuckin' normal dude.\n\nThe only difference is that, unlike any president before, we have insider threats who run out of these meetings to share their gossip with the news media.\n\nEveryone is bitching that Trump's comment hurt America's standing in the world. No, his comment didn't. What actually did the damage was the fact that Democrats like Dick Durbin actually valued embarrassing Trump *higher* than the damage they knew it would do to the country.\n\nFunny how the people who call Republicans \"traitors\" every chance they get somehow think deliberately trying to undermine the office of the president at the expense of the health of the nation isn't treasonous. Liberals are actually doing Russia's job for them now.",
"I’ve been searching for the right way to sum him up.",
"Hillary is a civilian.",
"I think the small hands thing is generally funny because of how seriously Trump takes it as an insult. Anyone else would just shrug, like, \"small hands, wtf does that even mean?\" But it drives Trump mad. Which is why it's caught on with people. No real human being actually thinks the size of Trumps hand's has any meaning except to his ego.",
"Most people on the left do not agree with the protest and rioting going on. The peaceful protests clearly out number the violent ones. The protests have hundreds of people. Let's do the math on this compare to how many people claim they are left. \n\nThe extreme right now hides in the dark when 60 years ago it was in plain sight. Do you really think in 60 years that the extreme hate is just dissipated? Look at taking away contraceptive rights and Banning abortions as extreme actions in government. When is the last time in extreme actions of a black lives matter protest made policy in politics?",
"hey man, as long as some rich old white guy can make a higher return on his million dollar investments, and pay less taxes, the country's economy must be the best and no other economies are better than that economy is",
"*shithole* year\n\nFTFY",
"90% getting a tax cut, poor getting larger tax credits, economy booming, reduced government regulation, obamacare final solution, yep. Border security and an end to chain migration. Yep he's doing just fine by me.",
"Because, law and stuff. ",
"You realize California is the sixth largest economy in the entire world, yes? If we seceded the US economy would be pretty fucked.",
"To be fair, ATMs have been widely accepted for some time now, I don't know of anyone actually being opposed to ATMs",
"MAYBE IF I TYPE IN ALL CAPS PEOPLE WILL TAKE MY \"RACE REALISM\" BULLSHIT SERIOUSLY ",
"I grew up in brazil and half of that country is a shit hole.",
"Dear god. He is treating the world like it's an attitude era promo written by Vince russo",
"I’m saying you really shouldn’t call other countries “shitholes” when half of your own country has sex with their cousins.",
"My favorite SF joke (was more relevant 20 years ago): *\"Where's the wine country?\"*\n\n*\"On Mission, between 4th and 5th.\"*\n\nEdit: I remember when it was a shithole there, bums pissing in the street. There's a Bloomingdale's now there, FFS.",
"WAIT, You mean the shithole that let a 5x deported felon get away with murder because \"fuck Trump\"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!",
"I think a lot of people like that theory because the idea of having a great manipulator in charge is a lot more comforting than the idea that you've elected a great imbecile.",
"No, it's only been a paltry 358 days now.",
"See? That's what he's talking about. A denial.",
"Nope, you just arent interested in Americas well being. You're for fundamental change. Socialism. See above. People want to leave shithole countries because they arent shithile countries?",
"They’re his words so...",
"ok...",
"Source? I don't really see how this could be any more illegal than shining a weirdly-shaped flashlight at it.",
"They are so crazy in San Francisco! ",
"Waaaaaaaaaa. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee",
"Yep, 3-7 more years with the guy and after that I'm sure that he'll be significant for the rest of his life due to secrets he knows alone.",
"https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-backs-raise-act/\n\nHere, this is his statement on what he wants to do.",
"Even if she was pres people like above would give her a pass. And they call Trump diehard supporters ''hypocrites''.\n\nGive me a break. ",
"It seems like something out of watch_dogs",
"TRUTH.\n\nI was watching the news at work, and I was reading the ticker at the bottom. All that shit that was down there was **FAR** more important than whatever Trump said this week.\n\nAt this point I am thinking less of the people who dwell on the shit he says than the man himself.",
"He's probably got stopped by a panda \nFor speeding on his way there \nA formal flashing of digital cameras \nFrom tourists in trafalgar square",
"Third world means not a NATO Ally (first world) and not part of the Soviet Union (second world). It's a term that doesn't even make sense now that the cold war is over. You're ignorant, lol.",
"I don’t even know what some of those things *are* TBH, but as far as I’m concerned people are free to say that stuff, just as other people are free to object or ignore.\n\nWe shouldn’t expect to change each other’s minds, because we don’t have to be the same.\nIMO we spend far too long obsessing over our differences.",
"> Well people discuss things that happen at the white house all the time. \n\nPlease show me all these stories about \"anonymous sources\" leaking stuff to Fox News and Breitbart about Obama.\n\nDemocrats at this point are now flagrantly trying to undermine the office of the president at the expense of the health of the nation, *just* so they can score 'lol fuk drumpf' points. Remember that cunt mayor in Puerto Rico, who deliberately withheld aid from her own people just to score 'lol fuk drumpf' points? And the country is still without power as a result of that? The lives of Puerto Ricans are actually worth less to liberals than their desire to get off on their own smug political bullshit.",
"Expansion? Wasn't it a preservation of the status quo, after a failure to agree on new privacy protections?",
"He's the fucking president. He can't just say whatever he wants without repercussions. It's okay though, it's what you idiots want apparently, so enjoy the shitshow. \n\nEdit: Thank you for the downvote. Let me remind you of another \"private conversation\" a famous republican had, back when americans had standards and backbones: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/sep/18/mitt-romney/romney-says-47-percent-americans-pay-no-income-tax/.\n\nRomney ate shit over that and lost the election. I would applaud Trump if he could even form a sentence as complex as Romney could. ",
"Liberals-\"He called those countries shitholes! So racist!\"\n\nAlso liberals-\"We can't send illegals back to their home countries, they're shitholes!\"\n\nYou all turned a convenient blind eye when Obama was bombing the tits out of \"shithole\" nations, but now the media has all you sheep morally outraged. Watching you liberals fall in line with the media narrative is equally impressive and terrifying.\n\nBahhhhh, bahhhhhhhhh, bahhhhhhhhhh",
"I only see one thing in your list that has actually happened.\n\nBut it’s good to know you are ok with ruined diplomatic relations, environmental harm, global embarrassment, and selling your country out to a foreign adversary just to make a few bucks.",
"Are people arguing that there are no shithole nations? Or that he shouldn't hsve said it?\n\nAnd I thought everybody wanted more 'human' and 'open' politicians?",
"Not sure, but they could probably complain about the fact that a bright light was being shone through their windows / at people. ",
"This is what I find hilarious when people bring up succession talk and say \"just do it already\". California would be fine. All those poor, sparsely populated red states are fucked.",
"Don't get me wrong. I wanna say he's a genius showman, but I think he's just a narcissist. \n\nBut god damn is he a hell of a distraction.",
"That's absolute shit, have you already forgotten about the tea party? And the birther movement based on pure racism? Trump got popular based on how many people he pissed off, not on how great his compromises were. How can you not see that? ",
"I forgot you're not aloud to tell people when the president acts like a dumbass.",
"Not in the US I think - freedom of speech protects visual obscenities from what I remember. You can look away from something that says “shithole” and not have to see it but you can’t just stand in the supermarket screaming shithole. ",
"It reminds me of Splinter Cell games where the objectives would be projected on the wall. ",
"And? You can't complain to me that Trump's language is a bad influence on children, if you're going to then also project them onto a public building. \n\nDon't criticize trump for something if you're going to do the same thing. ",
"Found the demigorgon ",
"[Explain!] (https://i.imgur.com/RCPX0um.gifv) ",
"Though funny (in a trainwreck way..so more tragic) ...is this a fake image?\n\nAs it's not anywhere in San Francisco news.",
"I think its a 400? Billion bill to expand things like nsa and stuff ",
"It's pathetic that you are defending this. If a white cis male American did this, he would have been convicted of at least manslaughter.\n>Because accidental shootings aren't automatically enough for manslaughter\n\nThe standard is where the death occurs without intent but “through the negligent or reckless actions of the defendant”. No sane person would claim that standard was not met here.\n\n>and the prosecution couldn't prove that accidentally firing a gun pointed at the ground was enough to meet the legal bar for manslaughter\n\nOf course it did. Garcia Zarate told police that he was shooting at a sea lion. He later changed his story after he realized that he would still get in trouble for shooting a sea lion. No rational jury in the world would consider a defendant credible after changing his story self-servingly into completely different facts carefully tailored to make him appear innocent of any crime. \n\nShooting a sea lion is a crime. Discharging a gun at ALL is a crime. He admitted to intentionally firing the gun, then later said it was an accident. \n\nThe idea that he simply found the gun on the ground, picked it up, and it randomly goes off, is not credible. That's the story a 5 year old would tell. \n\nI would have tried him for felony-murder. ",
"No, he’s a shithole. ",
"you have a source on that claim? or are you just pulling it out of your shithole?",
"Too many",
"This is mount doom of the west coast.",
"I tell you he won't *live* in a town where he can't marry his cousins!",
"If it wasn’t for the government it would be way wealthier. ",
"Oh my god, the comment genocide in this thread. ☠️☠️☠️",
"Obama did 90% of that and republicans bitched and whined the whole time about Obama being a war hawk to get political points ",
"Only cost us 1.5 trillion dollars in debt. How's that Republican narrative about being fiscally responsible? \n\nIf you spent 1.5 million a day since Jesus was born you still wouldn't have spent that much money. ",
"Nobody is entitled to come to America, especially not in the 21st century. We don't have railroads to build, or a million square miles of completely untamed land that needs populating.",
"It's going to be a shithole of a year.",
"Hear, hear",
"I get where they are going with it, but seeing \"shithole\" refer to a person and not a place doesn't work.",
"[How we Belgians saw it in the papers](https://i.redd.it/t9sjxioo5p901.png)",
"No, this is Trump Derangement Syndrome: Trump says something everyone already thinks, now liberals have to pretend to be completely against it because 'lol fuck drumpf'.",
"You guys are really just as classy as he is. You deserve each other. ",
"SF ever heard of the pot and the kettle?",
"I mean Haiti is objectively a shithole ",
">And they're pretty much all places that if you asked people last week, 99% would agree are shitholes.\n\nYup! Same people up in arms were laughing at some friend or making a joke calling those same places a shithole days ago. I guarantee it.",
"paid russian troll",
"It's his doody",
"Everythingbin my list has happened or will happen. Trump promised three things: border security, tax cuts and reduced regulation. 2 out of 3 first 11 months. Fyi, I grew up in Brazil. Surrounded by shithole countries, I know shit hole countries.",
"Well said!",
"Jfc",
"I mean they have been running the city into the ground for like 50 years.",
"Tell me more about the black friends you suddenly have just to win internet arguments.",
"Sounds like they are coming from Shithole states. And it's a problem. ",
"> Those are precisely the types of people we want here\n\nBut Haitians have a well-documented history of *doing poorly* when they get here: welfare, poverty, lack of education, etc. [Source](https://cis.org/Fact-Sheet/Fact-Sheet-Haitian-Immigrants-United-States).",
"Probably falls under the umbrella of being a public nuisance or disturbing the peace ",
"> smearing over unimportant tabloid issues\n\nLOL. Tan suit, mustard. That's all I have to say to make my point. You people are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the planet. \n\nTell me again how the POTUS calling half the world a shithole is just another tabloid issue, like his history of sexual assault. Nothing to see here folks. The media is just reporting on what the president said again. How dare they always make him look bad!!!!!!11",
"> brains behind\n\nIs that the opposite of streets ahead? ",
"Yes, I'm sure Clinton and her camp gave the media marching orders but I'm asking about the emails themselves. When the emails were published, was that Hillary controlling the media narrative?\n\nDo you think Trump intended for those shit hole comments to be made public? What about the news of his lawyer paying off a porn star? Is that Trump controlling the media narrative?",
"PROVEN TO BE FAKE NEWS YOU CUCKS. OBAMA BOMBED THOSE SHITHOLE COUNTRIES FOR 8 YEARS, DONNY CALLS IT LIKE IT IS AND EVERYONE CRIES LIKE 2 YEAR OLDS. ",
"Keep pretending that a skill-based immigration system wouldn't ban more than 99% of people from like 90% of the world from coming here.\n\nHow many Haitians migrated to Norway last year?",
"Awesome...👍👍👍Now he can take all of his \"Shithole supporters\" and form their own \"Shithole Country\"",
"Good think I'm black then... ",
"You bet your ass there are some high end projectors lying around in The City. ",
"Drumpf is done /s",
"Which is a non-issue for wealthy immigrants, as the poster specified?",
"It is a valid point.\n\nIt’s hypocritical to declare another country a shithole when at least half of your own country is one as well.",
"Distasteful.",
"Right it's like they don't get that red states are actually welfare states, many red states are mooching of California so their citizens can think California is the problem.",
"PRAISE THE SHITHOLE!",
"Its gonna be a shithole year",
"Ofcourse its another anti trump post",
"Unless you find a niche supermarket.",
"And yet, they're still going to ask America for handouts and people will keep migrating there.",
"No, you’re thinking of, “The Butthole.”",
"Most Filipinos I know support Duterte",
"Same place that just aquitted a minority of manslaughter while finding him guilty of wielding a deadly weapon",
"See i use to think he was a not a genius but a clever man who was just going further and being more shocking and so yes a manipulator and a winner. But now I'm not sure. Though I now don't care as even if he is a genius he isnt the right man to be president as he has made America look bad on too many easy wins he has lost. \n\nMy greatest fear is that he has been a genius level manipulator his entire life but the stress of last year has unravelled him combined with age he is not longer fit mentally and ethically.\n\nDid you hear the one about, *'Trump walks into a bar'....'and lowers it...'*\n\nThat about sums it up for me at this point.",
"I’m not your shithole, dick.",
"That’s Steve Miller, true believer. He’s the kiss up whispering in trumpfuck’s ears. ",
"I live in San Francisco. FYI, Most people here, though not Trump supporters, are actually rather apolitical and don't care about politics (Our all-time voter turnout record in the city is 77% in the Weed Election, and yet, 66% turnout in NYC is [considered a crisis](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nyc-dwindling-voter-turnout-hits-new-article-1.3620122) ). I find this amusing, but it's immature and sets a bad precedent for other forms of light vandalism (which you may guffaw about now, but will be hollering about next week if someone decides to project photos of a KKK lynching onto a building or something)",
"Liars. ",
"lol! why did they do that? ",
"Cities run by Liberals are shitholes themselves Chicago La San Francisco New York Baltimore all shitholes run by democrats .",
"I think we are way past the point of worrying about the influence his words will have on children. That’s not the reason people are criticizing his statements. You’re missing the point if you think that’s the case. ",
"Yup, the level of hypocrisy is astonishing",
"lol right, like the people who put up these projectors, make these posts on /r/pics, and upvote them aren't exactly the same people who scream that Trump is literally Hitler.",
"How does it help though? His rhetoric is constant garbage. ",
"You know there are more than like 5 people of any political persuasion right? ",
"> there remains a massive need for ... unskilled workers in the US\n\nDo you really believe that? You really think the US will benefit from flooding the country with cheap Third World labor? Okay, but there goes any argument for a $15/hr minimum wage.\n\n",
"Two people said they're true. Even more people said they aren't.",
"Surely even you can see the difference between not having free speech and being *killed* for speaking. \n\nThe person you replied to was pointing out that difference. ",
"Shithole town. I live in SF its the worst liberal shithole this side of chicago. ",
"PC is the cancer that slowly kills us.",
"Oi noi ",
"It can be oddly cathartic to laugh about and meme-ify anything that reminds us how far the shittiest members of our species can go in our society.",
"Couldn’t agree more.",
"> Norway is not a skill\n\nHaiti is not a race.",
"Ahhhhh but still your President sweetheart.",
">San Francisco, the city where homeless shitting in the streets is a major problem.\n\nVery civilized.",
"You think so, but a decent chunk of Reddit still screeches about \"the children\". So great, that isn't *your* point. We are on different pages, and don't need to get on the same page. Have a good night. ",
"Notice the difference between the enraged dems saying \"he absolutely said this. Multiple times.\" versus those two Republicans who are outspokenly against immigration saying \"I don't recall\". They did not say \"he didn't say that\". You know who else won't say that he didn't say it? The White House. Trump is the only one saying he didn't say it and only on Twitter. \n \nThe senior republican senator confirming the comments is Lindsey Graham, who, as a child of immigrants, was personally offended by Trump's comments.",
"Shut up. He is truly a dumbass and extremely ineloquent. I'm on the right... I hate him. \n\nBut I'm also am honest broker and call balls and strikes. ",
"He's telling you to commit suicide to prove he's a big, tough man and also intellectually superior.\n\nNotice how he completely ignored that it's by far the wealthiest state in the country and didn't give a single actual reason why CA is a \"shithole.\" He's just smarter than all of us /s.",
"According to the Fury book, his plan wasn’t to win at all. It was to gain notoriety ahead of his plan to start trump TV. That’s why there was no proper campaign, no handover team, no whitehouse staff interviewed or preparation made, and he expressly reassured Melania that he had no plans to win, and that there was no way he could. \n\nHe hadn’t planned on the stupidity of the populous though. When the result came in, nobody was more upset than he was, expect perhaps Melania who didn’t answer his calls for two days.\n\nHe doesn’t want the job, never did. And now he’s got to make good on the ridiculousness he promised in his campaign.\n\nThis is surprisingly similar to Boris Johnson in the UK. Leading a narrow Brexit lose was his plan to get to number 10. Due to large scale national ~~racism~~ stupidity he’s responsible for leading Britain away from free trade with 30% of the worlds GDP, and trading toe-to-toe with China and India. That’s a game we can’t win.\n\nShitholes indeed.",
"I loved the story about the Haitian president calling the US ambassador to explain the shithole remarks. Like he just won't open a window and point.\n\nI think I'd rather hang out in the third circle of hell than live in Port-au-Prince \n",
"By ratio of their population? ",
"The fog rolls in from a remote inescapable Island covered with rats and aching profusely for humans bearing garbage, \n\nParrots talk amongst themselves in efforts to determine which bald ape will feed them peanuts,\n\nSomeone spotted a golden old golfer hooking left on the fifth fairway on the same day a truck jackknifed on highway five killing two,\n\nWhy then bother, a woman asked a large screen on the side of a downtown building, like that monolith on the moon in Kubrick’s...oh, which one was it? Karl, do you remember?\n",
"Ha ha ha ha I'm sure kate steinle was laughing hysterically when she seen this...oh wait ",
"How do you give everyone a tax break? That’s not how an economy works. Eventually those bills will have to be paid. ",
"Don't call me chithole, sunt. ",
"Libtards living in a shithole state are triggered everyday. LOL",
"But what about what about what about",
"Prove it.",
"You need to start stop listening to your MSM and start doing some of your own investigation. Dont believe everything you hear. Tax cuts true, reduced regulation VERY TRUE. In fact, agencies now can NOT introduce a regulation without cutting TWO!",
"South Korea hasn't really been the one that's been stoking tension; North Korea's leaders have maintained the high tension because it has benefited them so far. They are the ones who have decided to take a conciliatory tone recently, but they still aren't going to give up the nukes.",
"What happened ?",
"It’s like people are looking for something to overreact to in regards to trump",
"Wut",
"Lindsay Graham, but he's a notorious gossip.",
"Minus trump, who that was in the room said it isn't true? ",
"No shithole, no shithole. You're the shithole.",
"2",
"Oh he shot a weapon to the ground and it ricoched and killed someone ? Ahh okay it's all good then.\n\nBet that if it were a white dude shooting the pavement and a black teenager died you'd be rioting on the streets",
"You mean 2018-2020. He's not getting impeached. Short of him dying or rapidly deteriorating dementia he's gonna remain until the end of his term. Y'all are in for a long ride. ",
"Oh my god, can we do this everywhere!? ",
"Things have never been better? Lol no my dude. Things are fine and the worlds not coming to an end though for sure.",
"> Got a perfect score on the MCAT.\n\nGood for him. And because you think intelligence and academic success in an immigrant is such a wonderful thing, let's make it a requirement!",
"R/pics has gone to shit. It has been debunked all libtard media lied, their source for this is a democratic aid.... What levels of retardation are you going to reach? You'll want Oprah to be president next.",
"No it wasn’t.",
"Someone said Trump said Haiti was a shithole",
"Shaggy! Wake up Shaggy! Where are the Scooby treats? ",
"two shitholes puckering as one",
"Good thing literally nobody ever has or ever will care what you think.",
"But you can stand in the White House and scream 'Shithole'. Apparently. ",
"Did it ever have anything to do with race?",
"Ha ok. Heard of the KKK who are out open about their hate? What group on the left is open about their hate. And I not talking about the people that \"support\" each group. I am talking about the group itself. ",
"I disagree. Calling them shithole countries is accurate to me. They are. They're shitholes with trash barges clogging up all their rivers, widespread poverty and hunger on a scale not really known to the US, and extreme overpopulation. It's not our job to make THOSE countries a better place. That's their government and people's job, and they're failing at it. And their \"dignity\"? I really don't think calling a country a shithole is hurting any feelings. If it is, so what? People say things about the US day-in and day-out.\n\nThe problem I have with it is that his statement implied that he didn't understand WHY these people would want to come to the US.\n\nTo me, that's what the US has always stood for. Taking in these immigrants and giving them a better life. No one, especially a president - should have to ask \"why\" these people want to come here.",
"Trump: hold my beer...",
"But it is also on the internet for many millions more to see. 20 years ago it would have been kinda pointless. ",
"And many Filipinos I know hates him. Those who love him are noticeably uneducated and frequently uses Facebook which permeates fake news that delude most of the public. It was tackled in our senate actually. Our Communication Operator who is a stupid bimbo, spreads fake news via social media. Those who try to disprove her claims with facts are lynched to oblivion by the very same uneducated public.\n\nJust visit the r/Philippines and their hate for Duterte is evident. ",
"Literally, any ordinary citizen could be a better President than Trump. \n\nHow has your life changed for the positive since he took office? He’s done nothing but divide the country. ",
"I mean, to be fair, this *is* Reddit.",
"He doesn’t drink alcohol ",
"When ever has the term \"shit hole\" ever been used to describe a person? This just reeks of desperation to create a controversy where there is none.",
"A monkey running wild and throwing feces at people could evoke the same reaction as a Trump quote. That doesn't qualify the money as an intelligent manipulator or master of strategy.",
"Ironic\n\never been to the Tenderloin?",
"Cc",
"Triggered trumptards are retriggered.",
"You left out the part where he admitted to shooting at sea lions. ",
"How edgy ",
"I admire you. You're so optimistic.",
"He doesn't seem to hate legal immigrants either",
"WW Shithole 2018",
"How mature....",
"Canada uses a point system. You can't get in without an education and good command of the English language.\n\nSource: went through said system.",
"Yup, most business love him after he lowered their taxes while increasing the taxes of the poor. He is anti-poor and it's no wonder why he kills them for sport.\n\nAnd yes, I admit that Obama funded Duterte when the effects of the drug war is still non evident. And now that it's evident, your president still supports him. Birds of the same feather flock together am I right? ",
">No, this is Trump Derangement Syndrome: Trump says something everyone already thinks, now liberals have to pretend to be completely against it because 'lol fuck drumpf'.\n\nBe honest with yourself. There is absolutely nothing this president could say or do that you wouldn't justify. He could drop his pants, bend over and shit directly into your mouth and you would absolutely find a way to spin that into a good thing. \"Lol at least liberals have to smell the shit he just took in my mouth\" you'd justify to everyone around you, as if their disgust at what just happened made it all worth it.\n\nTrump was right about one thing. His fans, and let's face it, that's exactly what you are, you're a fanboy) would still love him even if he murdered someone in the street, in broad daylight, all on live tv. You're a beta bitch fanboy for an orange retard because you're addicted to the outrage of actual thinking people when they see someone get shit on and your too stupid to understand that you're the one covered in shit.\n\nWe're talking about the President of the United States, not your fucking drunk neighbor who spews stupid bullshit when he wakes up on the lawn. People expect better.",
"I came from a shithole in South America but the first time I saw someone pull out his dick in broad day light and start to take a piss in the middle of a busy street was in San Francisco.\n\nCool city 'though. It feels good to know no one gives a shit about how you are dressing or what you are doing.",
"Oh I get it, the lowlifes who are largely affected by the rampant drug addiction in your country are in support of him while the elites like yourself are against it because it doesn’t affect you.\n\nYou’d fit right in as a Democrat in the US.",
"An effect yes, but a noticable effect, no. The only way my quality of life will be disrupted enough for me to care is if there is another draft. ",
"2edgy4me",
">It was a blanket statement that any of the people coming from these countries must themselves inherently be shitty or substandard.\n\nDisregarding the fact that Trump and other people present dispute this account and disregarding the context of the discussion in which the conversation was taking place, if we take for granted that he specifically made the statement attributed to him, the statement made does not infer causality between specific types of people and the country being shitty. \n\n>Trump would almost certainly do a 180 on his stance if the person coming from the Netherlands was Muslim and the person coming from South Africa was white. Which illustrates why such a blanket statement about countries is ignorant at best and racist at worst.\n\nTrump is pushing and has consistently advocated for a [merit-based system](https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1720/text) as per this logic anybody could immigrate as long as they meet the requirement put forward by the US government and being muslim/white is not an actual measurable criteria that can be included. Furthermore, the notion that Islam is a race is a nonsensical critical perspective that is false.\n\n>Stop and think for a moment how motivated someone has to be in order to risk everything for an opportunity at a better life in America. \n\nIf they meet the relevant criteria for immigration, welcome aboard! However, this should not be an open invitation as not everybody that comes here to save their lives can effectively contribute to society. For instance, [in Canada, after 1 year 50% of refugees are not contributing to the economy and after 4 years around 30% of refugees are still not contributing to the economy.](https://globalnews.ca/news/3119278/half-of-adult-syrian-refugees-unemployed-1-year-later-liberals/). Also this can be taken both ways, the people that are the most hard working and willing to move to the US are the ones that are the most capable of helping their country of origin, as such limiting their immigration helps reduce the brain drain in their home country.\n\n>The inability of Trump to make ANY distinction in terms of who is coming from these respective countries is what makes his comment so racist and awful. \n\nIt seems that you are quick to jump on the \"Trump is racist\" bandwagon that was put forward during the pre-election cycle as an attack angle by the Democrats, which was then recycled (along with the Trump is \"incompetent\" and Trump \"will start world war 3\") for their \"Resist\" campaign when they unexpectedly lost and had no clear policy ideas to put forward. Trump probably isn't more or less racist than any other 70 year old man. The reality is that people think that Trump is racist and as such interpret anything he puts forward as being racist regardless of the context (a discussion on immigration policies, merit-based immigration and humanitarian protection immigration). If you think Trump is actually racist have a read from this [Hillary Clinton supporter](http://archive.is/5YoL2) on the topic.\n\nNow let's ask a simple question: do you think that Trump's immigration stance toward the special protection status of Haitian victims of the earthquake is harsher than the one taken by Canada? If you answer yes, well you are wrong as in fact Canada has removed the special protection status of Haitian [3 years ago](http://www.immigration.ca/the-process-applicable-for-applicants-who-were-under-the-haiti-special-measures-hsm/). Yet nobody is going around crying about racism in Canada for the same exact immigration issue that Trump was discussing.\n",
"And yet, they're still knocking on the door.",
"r/iamverysmart\n\nI don't think you meant to come across like that but you are stating the obvious like everyone doesn't know. In other news the water is wet.",
"You’re a liar just like the fuccboi ",
"No it won’t. It’s going to be forgotten by the next controversy. 24/7 news channels must fucking love Donald Trump.",
"Shit hole state and city",
"Melania was supposedly in tears the night he won.",
"While I agree, the president using the term \"shithole\" is really not diplomatic and worthy of a president of any nation.",
"More like, they are shitholes, trump called them shitholes, and everyone knows they are shitholes.\n\nTry reading a couple of hillary's leaked emails some time. You'll see what politicians (on both sides) talk like.",
"I didn't say that he does.",
"A child. Woah dude you’re giving him way more credit than he deserves. Children are innocent due to an understandable lack of wisdom. What’s his excuse?",
"To be fair, the stock market loves it when companies stand to make more money, and the tax break is definitely helping companies more than people. \n\nIt’s a short sighted policy that screws the populace in favour of the 1%, but the stock market loves that. ",
"New Websters entry for sure.",
"I'm saying there are countries that are shitholes and it's because of their leadership and governments. A lot of shitholes are socialist. Venezuela and Zimbabwe come to mind as examples.\n\nWe would have to pay billions to educate and financially support immigrants who come from countries that don't educate their own citizens. Countries who control the means of production so there's no need for the citizens to learn trades.\n\nThe left railed against Trump for the tax cuts because they said he shouldn't add to the national debt.\n\nNow reportedly Trump doesn't want immigrants from shithole countries, he wants skilled immigrants from stable countries that we don't have to spend billions of dollars to get them into the work force.\n\nThe left calls him racist, because according to the left only people of color live in shitholes. (Seriously, do you not see how racist the left has become?)\n\nThe left wants Trump to spend billions an raise the national debt to educate immigrants and train them for the work force, else he's a racist.\n\nWhere's the logic?",
"Take a break from the internet, then.\n\nIt's always been like this. Maybe not QUITE as volatile, but always politically charged.\n\nHaving social media and news aggregators like Reddit serves to fill you with just about every single bad thing happening around the world all at once.\n\nIf you struggle to be able to balance the good with the bad, by being able to shut it out and realize the sun is still shining, you have people that love you, and you're still alive, I'd say it's pretty easy to feel down about the future.",
"How will those countries get any better? They have to improve from the inside, no? So if that's true, they need their best people to stay and work together to fix what's broken. We see it now with the riots in Iran - the citizenry is protesting deplorable, some may say \"shithole\" conditions. Wasn't this remark made in reference to the fact that immigration from those countries - the ones that need to improve - should be reduced? If so, then perhaps this IS what those countries described as \"shithole\" need - a little bump to make them turn it around.",
"And If I were to have said that about President Obama, I would have been called a racist.",
"TF is wrong with him",
"Calling a shithole a 3rd world country instead doesn't make it not a shithole.",
"Yes. ",
"Lets hope you don't have children",
"Who are some of these 100 people? ",
"I'm not seeing how those 2 sentences are connected. What does it matter how many Haitians migrate to Norway?\n\nAlso, a skills based system would ban as many people as the government wants it to. They can make the skills as rudimentary or as complex as they want. But it doesn't matter, because that's not what the President said at the meeting. He said \"we don't need any more Haitians\" (paraphrasing), not \"we need more people with college degrees\". Skills played no role in his statement.",
"MAGA ...fast clap",
"\\>Gets triggered by Trump Derangement Syndrome\n\n\\>Goes on deranged, irrelevant rant\n",
"Holy triggered!!!",
"It’s funny cause when I think of San Francisco I think of shithole myself. ",
"Haha holy shit - you believe Obama is responsible for the upswing in the economy right now? The depth of you guys' delusions and lack of self awareness never stops to impress me.",
"That's so ironic and true at the same time LMFAO",
"lol. fucking lib tears will never get old. he was right. we will never get tired of winning. ",
"Telling your opponent that e.g. you don't think he's right is different from you telling him he's bullshitting you. He should pick his words. He's the president.",
"Oh so it's the job market and great weather. Couldn't possibly have to do with not prosecuting drug crimes and allowing homeless junkies to roam the streets. Proceed to outlaw plastic bags forcing said homeless junkies to shit on the streets. \n\n",
"The poor are actually against him. While the select elite are with him. That is evident when he lowered the taxes for the rich and increased the commodity prices of the poor.\n\nIt's the majority of the uneducated middle class are with him. And most of the Mindanaoans (A landmass in the Philippines) just because he is from Mindanao. ",
"What you said was \n> If, for one second, you think he **does this on purpose**, and is some sort of genius media manipulator, **you have massively misjudged him**. \n \nHe doesn't act this way accidentally. The only one bringing genius into this equation is you. \n> . . . when people talk about Trump controlling the media narrative, this is exactly what they mean. \n \nHe's acting out, he does it on purpose, end of. Now go away.",
"Saying your country is a volatile country, is an insult to volatile countries.",
"Yeah, that’s her, with the shithole. I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them.",
"Yeah it's weird that states like New York, Maryland, Vermont, and Massachusetts still allow first-cousin marriages while WEST VIRGINIA of all places has outlawed them.",
">Or that he shouldn't hsve said it?\n\nThat one. \n\n>And I thought everybody wanted more 'human' and 'open' politicians?\n\nYou can be honest and tactful without being crude and further insulting millions of impoverished people. \n\n",
"I think you fail to take into account the amount of ignorance out there. What you think is obvious, is not to others. It is egotistical to assume that what you know is what everyone should know. So yes water is wet, but that might just be news to someone.",
"No buddy gives a fuck if he walks around saying shithole. We give a fuck because as a leader, he sucks balls, and makes us look like assholes.\n\nThis is San Francisco, not really a kid friendly place anyway.",
"There you go now trump neither his fan base know what you said",
"Make that booty clap ",
"That's a projection made by a third party unrelated to the building. They chose the building for symbolism.",
"Whoa now. That's way too much logic for them to handle.",
"Show me where the Democratic party endorses violence? True left learner are not violent nor do they support it. The far ends of the political Spectrum on each side should not represent the groups as a whole. \n\nLibertarians are far right? You should look into your own comment more. \n\nThis timer Reddit has on posts kill me. Don't expect much more from me. Good talks. Thanks for not being a dick. It's good to see good conversation. ",
"Lol you claim how awful our politics are because everything is binary, then immediately follow it up with a black and white, ridiculous statement.\n\nPerhaps people like you are the problem?",
"I am comforted in knowing I'm not the only person who still says covfefe ",
"You can do that when your popular",
"Years in office...",
"Someone is triggered...",
"Then why do people move to america? Because their country is SHIT!!!!",
"https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-world-thinks-of-trump/\n\nIt's still trending downwards from mid-2017. I wonder how low it is now. I'm sure your shithole of a brain is going to come up with some bullshit excuse. I'll wait.",
"Dick Durbin said that he did, he was in the meeting. He also said Lindsey Graham immediately stood up to Trump after he said that shit, and Graham has since confirmed that.",
">99% of San Franciscans would have agreed that Haiti was a shithole last week. \n\nMaybe, but they weren't using that type of language around co-workers and other supposed professionals. They aren't the president of the United States, who should have a modicum of class and decorum. \n\n",
"I looked it up. He said, “They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”\n\nI don’t see where he said the majority are rapists or violent. That being said, 100% of illegal immigrants are criminals.",
"I'd say it's pretty relevant when the US president casually refers to a group of countries as shithole, and says that Norwegian people are generally better",
">Yup, most business love him after he lowered their taxes while increasing the taxes of the poor.\n\nLOL you mean he made the US tax rate in line with the rest of the developed world so US business could actually compete with other countries. He aslo didn't raise taxes on the poor, 90% of American will see a bigger paychecks and get money back on their tax returns. Maybe you should actually read the whole law and not just quote liberal talking points. \n\n> I admit that Obama funded Duterte when the effects of the drug war is still non evident.\n\nHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA what the fuck are you on bro, the effects were very clear from the begin Duterte said exactly what he was planning to do. Obama didn't stop him nor* did anyone else and kept giving him money. You really need to pull your head out of your ass before you start eating your own shit.",
"Whether you voted for him or not, he *is* your president",
"Shithole city. ",
"It’s too bad that your parents won’t let you sleep in a little on the weekends :-(",
"Shithole city",
"Reddit is a shithole. We are shitholers. ",
"“Literally” no it wasn’t ",
"Because some idiots don't think Trump is racist. It's totally just coincidence that he's always on the wrong side of a racial issue. Until he drops the n-bomb it's not racist. I actually had someone say \"I think Trump is racist as much as I believe Obama is racist.\"",
"Marginalize the situation more you stupid fuck. He was/is a career criminal, 5 time illegal immigrant, stole a gun, fired it and it killed someone. Freak accident my ass. No, this guy is a piece of garbage, kind of like you for trying your very best to downplay his actions. Guy deserves the worst we can offer yet he walks free in San Fran. Truly a shithole city.",
"Cities like san Francisco have no business calling the president that, especially when you look at the state of those cities.\n\nTake a drive around SF, los angeles or san diego, they are really not the nicest places once you go for a good drive around",
"There are tons of racist Christians, being religious doesn't make you a good person. And this is coming from a religious person",
"First step is proving he even ever said it...",
"That’s really the problem. Trump says one ridiculous thing a week. Half the country loves it, the other half doesn’t. He’s dividing, which is the opposite of which his role is there for. He’s not here to create controversy and promote his brand. Running a country should be different than creating clickbait TV shows with such amazing catch phrases as “You’re Fired”. ",
">Trump is America \n\nHe is at least half of America for sure. Which is sad enough in its own right ",
"... and republicans have gotten so retarded they’ll want Donald Trump to be president nex... oh wait, republicans already went full retard. ",
"That’s right. ",
"> What does it matter how many Haitians migrate to Norway?\n\nBecause Trump's effectively going to apply the same immigration standards the rest of the developed world subscribes to which basically means shitholes need not apply. \n\nHe never said anything about banning shitholes, so the worst thing we can assume is that Trump doesn't want the State Department to prioritize any time or money towards immigration from places like Haiti.\n\nAlso, the entire 'quote' is hearsay gossip, the context of which was deliberately excluded by people who are making the claims that he said it, so don't pretend you were there.",
"You haven't ever left the USA have you? also bro your raps suck. ",
"Whining about whining. Bold move cotton let’s see how this plays out ",
"I used the term violent criminals as in murder, rape, car jacking as opposed to nonviolent crime such as illegal entry into the country or outstaying your visas",
"This is so covfefe ",
"They don't send illegal aliens home unless they commit and egregious crime? They also refuse to work with ICE?",
"Are we too stupid to realize how bad it was to elect a racist bully?",
"That they are in fact shit holes, yup for sure, but I ain't the president. I am allowed to be a cunt. I don't believe a president should conduct himself in the manner however. ",
"Also rimjobs",
"Don’t worry. Trump has one of his men dispatched to paint over it ASAP. ",
"*snore*",
"This is why Trump will be reelected with 400 EV. It's so much damn fun watching you poor snowflakes melting every day and the normal Americans can't stand your tantrums.",
"Thats his only talent, and aparently thats all you need to be president of the steongest country in the world",
"you act like there was a time when people weren't like this",
"He wasn't in public. Are President's not allowed to say things in the White House? The best part is we don't really even know if or how he said it. It's all still he said she said bullshit from disgruntled people. \n\nYou don't think past President's used choice words for different parts of the world in the past? Don't be naive, Teddy Roosevelt cussed like a sailor and had wild animals in the White House. Lincoln's wife was clinically insane and used to spout off all sorts of nonsense. Obama called Libya a shitshow and Kanye West an ass. I'm sure FDR called the Japanese some pretty shitty and racially derogatory names.\n\nSome places in the world are shitholes and that's why the people that live there want to come here. It doesn't mean everybody there is a shit person but it does make it harder for them to find success.",
"Hey I'm just here enjoying my popcorn.",
"I don’t understand why giving special attention to statements from the President is suddenly a bad thing, even though that’s what’s always been done historically.\n\n\nWhen the President speaks, everyone listens. Even the most trivial of bullshit is automatically given importance because it comes from the highest office in the land.",
"\"Stop verbally abusing him\" hahahahaha",
"He definitely will not get voted in a second term, Of this I am very certain.",
"You do realise that many states actually give bus tickets to SF and LA to homeless people, right? Not saying that the human waste thing isn't an issue, but what are they to do when there is a large influx of homeless from other states. ",
"Lol too many trump snowflakes will get offend",
"Obviously. A federal building being projected on by federal employees would be a huge deal. But there is only so much more outrage until violence starts.",
"It was way easier to get in US illegally than legally way before Trump.",
"you* your* he’s* he’s* because* than*\n\nYou probably want to toss a few of these in for good measure: , , , , .",
"Weird, liberal states have the best education, lower unwanted pregnancy rate, and the highest tourist attractions. When I think shithole I generally think of the flyover states that republicans hold. ",
"Drumpf is an orange cheeto and a buffoon with tiny hands",
"I'm not your shithole, drongo",
"To be honest, Trump is correct about most of those countries. If they are so great, don’t leave, and those here...please go back.",
"> Yup, most business love him after he lowered their taxes while increasing the taxes of the poor. He is anti-poor and it's no wonder why he kills them for sport.\n\nI was referring to Duterte's Anti-poor TRAIN law. Not Trump's. ",
"Lol I spent 6 years in the US Navy bro. USS Mitscher, DDG 57. ET2(SW). Lol your trolling attempt is pathetic and feeble. \n\nGrow up, child. ",
"Upswing? This is the Trump 2017 \"jobs boom\".\n\nIt's the slowest job growth since 2010. \n\nhttp://i.imgur.com/81Te91A.png\n\nAnd let's not forget that Obama led an economic recovery from the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, which was largely the result of banking deregulation by the previous administration and the criminals running Wall Street.\n",
"Let’s see if he even makes it to the campaign trail buddy ",
"Most stats are bullshit and can be easily manipulated to say whatever someone wants them to say.",
"He's rigid, unimaginative and wants to fuck everyone for his own satisfaction... I'm pretty sure he's a dick.",
"So your answer is no you can’t. YOU’re just spouting the random bullshit that you heard on Fox and you trust it wholeheartedly and you expect the rest of us to be just as naive. Got it. ",
"What a hot take. That'll show him.",
"Painting over a light. Trump really does have the best people huh ",
"Not really I can agree that the places are shitholes as well as be pissed about the manner in which he conducts himself as the president. ",
"[Here you go folks.](https://imgur.com/Zj0ZAic)",
"It's covfefe all over again. At least we can understand it this time around.",
"If these places aren’t shitholes, then why do all of the citizens insist on leaving?",
"I know people from Germany, Australia, France who moves here. Are those countries not rich enough?",
"Are you going out of your way to be thick or does it come naturally?\n\nA person can do *a thing* on purpose but the end results of doing that thing may not be a part of their purpose.\n\nIf you smoke a pack of cigarettes a day you are doing it *willfully*, (that means 'on purpose'), and then if you get cancer you can't say you got cancer *on purpose* you moron. \n\nI think it's over your head, my work here is done, Trump supporter.",
"He should have been convicted of something, if you can’t even debate on that topic then you’re willing to rationalize anything. People get manslaughter for driving recklessly. He was handling a weapon recklessly. ",
"Liberals need to start winning elections rather than stoop to perform stunts like this.",
"(groans) ",
"The Pearl-clutching and faux outrage on this fake news is exceptionally juicy. ",
"Amen",
"And that is not the states government job it is up to the federal government. If ICE wants to have an agent in every local PD in California checking every arrestee migratory status is up to them not the local PD.",
"LOL 538 isn't a real news source, holy hell you are hillarious if you actually believe that crap. ",
"2 wrongs don't make a right.\nUsing the word Shithole as a president\n, or a city plastering it that big in public is very trashy and classless.",
"You are looking with a blind eye. Neo Nazis marched. Compare any other group to them? Or the KKK. ",
">Shithole is going to be word of the year \n\nDo you mean New Jersey?",
"Our wonderful President is 100% right, the countries he was referring to are very much shitholes. Ask any of the immigrants from those shitholes and they will tell you they came from a shithole.",
"Underrated ",
"Just back from trip to Chile - the street art / graffiti is off the hook. Check out Santiago and Valparaiso. ",
"It was assumed that elected representatives would be responsible to the people and put the best interests of the country ahead of other loyalties. Parties were not imagined as being part of the political landscape at the time the US Constitution was written.\n\nOn the other hand, if removal from office was as easy as having 51 Senators, Obama would probably have been impeached and convicted in 2011.",
"You’re clearly just being a shithole and trying to pick a fight. ",
"Stay classy democrats",
"I couldn't agree more! \n",
"very mature ",
">You should also look up the word Chinese people call white liberals.\n\nMore spurious arguments. Can you honestly say the Chinese administration hasn't been hostile to Trump more so than they ever were to Obama? \n\n>Indonesia and Malaysia also don't have a problem with Trump. They even defended the travel ban.\n\nA quick Google search shows no such thing. Quite the contrary. Why even lie about this? Oh wait, you're a Trump supporter, that's why.\n\nhttp://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/protest-in-malaysia-against-us-travel-ban\n\nhttp://www.straitstimes.com/asia/travel-ban-stirs-unease-in-indonesia-malaysia",
"!reddit covfefe",
"The fake moral outrage is exhausting. All over the world people getting killed, raped, enslaved, robbed. But oh no the president said a mean thing! Then 12 hours later it's back to business doing nothing to better the world.",
"Ohh is that suppose to mean something to me there tough guy. I don't give a fuck where you served, your rap still sucks. ",
"Mostly was never said and he was talking about the people who illegally cross into the US. This is one of the reasons why I find what he said so hilarious. I doubt it's as bad as what people think, and he's right. There are some lousy awful countries out there; why should we accept immigrants from them when they need all the people they can to make it better. ",
"Trump Derangement Syndrome is difficult to overcome. This is the 100th time that president Trump using unkind (but undeniably true) words is getting more press than actual news.",
"Lol your brain dead if you think a large amount of Americans have the money to move to another country. Find me one typical middle class or lower class American that you know who's left because this country is shit? Yea, good luck finding any. ",
"I think it's become a trope\n\n*edit* here comes the down votes for disagreeing with the circle jerk. I miss when this place had discussions instead of memes and puns.",
"They won't hear. That's how the echo chamber works. Science! :D",
"He's never left the campaign trail, buddy. Every day he gives Americans more hope for a bright future and removes obstacles set before us by the dismal failure Obama.",
"Precisely.\n\nI explained it like this to some feeble minded soul in this thread.\n\n*A person can do a thing on purpose but the end results of doing that thing may not be a part of their purpose.\nIf you smoke a pack of cigarettes a day you are doing it willfully, (that means 'on purpose'), and then if you get cancer you can't say you got cancer on purpose you moron.*\n",
"Good one. They really got him with that one! /s",
">To be fair, the stock market loves it when companies stand to make more money, and the tax break is definitely helping companies more than people.\n\nAs I said, the stock market does not reflect the health of the economy nor the prosperity of the average American.",
"They're one of the most credible and dependable sources for polling figures. Keep burying your hand under the sand though, or you know, getting your news from FOX.",
"Soooo....your solution is that no one can say anything negative about Trump because it makes us look bad to the world? So even when people witness him being an unstable douche not fit to serve, they should keep their mouth shut to toe the line? Yeah, that doesn't sound like a dictatorship at all...",
"No they didn't",
"The guy who runs naked into a football game certainly has all the attention, but no one would write that he knows how to work a crowd.",
"When your 80+ Anti-Trump Subs are dead and you have to spam default subs 👌",
"Yeah, it was just a dad joke.",
"Ah San Francisco, the city that values illegal immigrant rights more than those of Americans. San Francisco is the true shithole. ",
"[538 ahahaahahahahhahah](http://i.magaimg.net/img/t9d.jpg)",
"Did someone say cunt flaps?",
"You mean the law that would hurt your countries economy in the long term and actually make it worse for poor people. Wow you really don't know much about anything do you. He did the right thing.",
"One time when I was in high school I was having a party at my house and I prepared my room ahead of time and brought everyone up in my room and had them sit in a circle around the perimeter and then I hit the light switch and the fan switch at the same time and the lights went out and the fan turned on with everyone sat around the room and slowly they all got hit in the face with plops of what turned out to be shaving cream which I planted on each blade of the fan, caked as much as possible",
"sure beats \"covfefe\"- at least the context of the word is something worth making a thing about compared to the equivalent of a nonsensical twitter-sneeze.",
"You know how Trump makes up names like Crooked Hillary or Little Rubio or Pocohontas Warren or Sneaky Dianne Feinstein or Sloppy Steve?\n\nWell, I guess he outdid himself this time in coining his own eternal moniker.",
"We really don't, name some real negative consequences as a result of Trump?",
"Lol yeah. It means I've left the country. Lol\n\nI love how your child like mind jumped straight to me threatening you. And talk your shit. Try harder even. It won't matter. \n\nI've served my country. You start fights online while making the world a worse place to be. \n\nAgain, grow up kid.",
"I mean, if Trump would stop saying shit like this it would be easier to do that. Unfortunately he does this at least once a week.",
"And we all saw how fake the polls are during the election, you're the one burying your head in the sand doll, not me. ",
"This guy actually gets it. ",
"Year Of The Depend Adult Undergarment",
"You seem to forget crime statistics... But hey, whatever floats your boat to keep your virtue signaling. ",
"Calling a country a shithole isn't racist.",
"Trump and reddit need to jerk each other off until they get over themselvs ",
"I'm annoyed that they didn't change the Gurarantee copy on the right side.",
"I was unsure to be honest, lots of non us people on here. Have a good one bud. ",
"Low energy.",
"He's \"woke\"",
"Not you, the OP of the shithole country. Get your OPs straight, OP. ",
"He seems to like shithole actresses, though. ",
"Ssshhhh....they don’t get it. When all the smug shithole jokes get old and they start paying attention again, there’s going to be a wall on the southern border.",
"I'll take the pot. Got papers? ",
"Shithole city",
"They don’t care about facts. If they didn’t see it on fox or read about it on breitbart than it didn’t happen. ",
"So basically doing the same thing is supposed to make whoever did this any better than Trump? Sounds childish, as well.",
"So y'all gonna buy into another stupid controversy? Cool, love hearing about stupid bullshit that doesn't actually mean anything ",
"I subscribe to other subreddits that watch bills being pushed through congress. ",
"Have you even seen the states that republicans are up in for the Senate?Texas, Tennessee, Mississippi, Nebraska, Wyoming, Utah, Arizona and Nevada. Besides Nevada, Where exactly do you envision 4-6 seats coming from? Democrats don’t have enough voters in those states to elect a senator.\n\nAnd befor you point to Alabama as some sort of turning point. Jones ran against a dude that use to prey on teenagers and still only won by 2 points. That’s not some monumental shift in politics. It was just a shitty candidate ala HRC.\n\nIf we look at the Democratic side of things, you have Indiana, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota, and possibly Ohio and Florida as places that just went Trump. Ohio is the only one on that list that just might stay in office, but the other ones, there is little to no chance barring any scandals. It’s not the way I feel or hope, it’s purely a numbers game.",
"Calling a situation a shit show is not even in the same ballpark as calling a country a shithole. But good job on the whatabout.",
"538 never predicted a clear cut Clinton victory. What's your point? You might also want to educate yourself on how polls and statistics work. It's too bad knowledge and education seem like anathemas to Trump supports. It would explain his exceedingly low support among college grads though, heh.",
"The best part is he didn't actually say \"shithole\"! #fakeNews",
"This is still a thing? I haven’t seen this in use in years ",
"It speaks for itself, up to you to make a point.",
">and they love destroying antifa. \n\nThey love destroying the group that works against fascism. \n\nAnd you think this is a good thing. ",
"Where oh where could we possibly find unskilled people who have nothing to do in the summer and would work the fields. ......",
"4% GDP growth BITCHES, funny how the libtards let Hilary steal 2 billion dollars for shithole Haiti, but will start autisticly screeching when Trump \"supposedly\" calls it what it is, a shithole.",
"Have you ever noticed that top comments on any given thread are most often stating the obvious that everyone already knows? ",
"I don't think the house makeup will be the same after November 2018. This is going to be a blue wave election. I wouldn't be surprised if dems get the house and senate back. People are pissed. ",
"Downvotes so comment with facts is hidden without a rebuttal . . . the Left in a nutshell! It's going to be a long and painful 7 more years for you guys with that attitude",
"Everyone: One look at this guy’s post history is enough to know he’s a total loser and not worth engaging with :) move along, all",
"Look at the context. Why do you t_d people defend him so staunchly? What has he done for you? ",
"Courtesy of u/Fuck_Fascists :\n\nYou left out the part where it was a freak accident involving him shooting the pavement and the bullet ricocheting nearly a hundred feet before striking the girl.\n\nAnd the man did serve jail time.\n\n\nDoes that sound like evil San Francisco sets murderers free because they're illegal immigrants?\n\nu/cpet72 is deliberately misrepresenting the situation and is being rewarded for it. And I'm being downvoted for pointing out this simple, undeniable fact. And I thought reddit was all liberal circle jerks...",
">Trump Fanboy Proves The Point Made Against Them\n\nTry it, name a SINGLE thing your Orange Crush could say or do that you'd actually stop fanboying over. I'll bet you absolutely 100% cannot do it. ",
">That's all anybody needs to see to know your only goal is to win an argument\n\nI'm not trying to win anything I don't have to try, I'm winning because I'm using facts and logic. \n\n>You dumb fucks are petty and pathetic. \n\nI have an advanced degree and own my own company, what do you have besides your shitty rap and 6 years in the navy (cause you couldn't make it to retirement like a smart person would) LOL.\n\n> Some of us worry about more than feeling like we showed them!\n\nThe why are you still replying because that is a direct contradiction to this statement. If you didn't care, you wouldn't respond. \n\n>Lol get eviscerated with cock you dip shit\n\nYou don't seem to know what eviscerated means, because you used the word wrong #learntodictionary\n",
"Their point is that an illegal immigrant should not be given a fair trial. ",
"Time dilation is a thing when a substantial portion of the population has swallowed the Kool-Aid",
"[i've made a huge mistake.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HIu9bIf7Hq8/hqdefault.jpg)",
" Yup, pre gamer gate Reddit was very liberal. OP is probably to young to know that. ",
"I understood. I wasn’t disputing that, just offering a counterpoint. While someone intentionally committing a crime doesn’t make them a violent criminal, violent criminals are more likely to intentionally commit crimes.",
"UMAD UMAD UMAD UMAD UMAD UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMAD\n\nTRUMP 2020 BACK TO THE BACK TO MADLANDS.",
"How embarrassing to the state of California...",
"Wow!, They got him good! ",
"Wow it’s almost as if the GDP has been steadily growing. Charts and graphs are hard.. and there it is! Gotta bring Hillary or obama in this somehow! ",
"To me this reads more as them saying their own country is a shithole\n\nEDIT: I can't keep up with your batshit crazy president and only now saw the news that this is referring to. ",
"Keep shit in shithole!",
"With bitcoin cash and its's low fees, its possible again! Check out /r/btc",
"You are right. I do not support the extreme left or right. They are all ignorant. ",
"The choice came down to Clinton and Trump. What do you expect us to do.",
"Why does everyone from t_d bring up Hillary every time a debate/discussion doesn't go their way? Kind of silly. ",
"Oh that's so funny! You thought you had him with that question. That's what you get when you assume.",
"I wish this year started in December, then it would almost be 2019. I call worth it.",
" What are you from the south? SF is an awesome city, too bad many shit states ship homeless there, but unlike shit states they didn't shit on the homeless and arrest them for being homeless. Maybe look at what Jesus actually said in the bible, helping the less fortunate and all, not that I'm religious but many of you Trump cock suckers are. ",
"Yeah but then you have to use bitcoin cash :-P",
"My stock in Jergen’s jerk off cream is going through the roof. ",
"How is this okay but a cowboy hat in the sky isn't?",
"You don't like that source? Fine, have a few more:\n\n\nhttp://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/07/17/9-charts-on-how-the-world-sees-trump/\n\nhttps://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2017-11-16/us-global-image-takes-another-hit-under-donald-trump-in-international-ranking\n\nhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/21/mapped-world-views-trumps-leadership/\n",
"No, that was the ACA.",
"You can take the man out of the simple but you can never take the simple out of the man",
"I don't see a problem with that :)",
"This \"statement\" is coming from a city that has human shit all over the fucking place due to their homeless and drug problems.... Should prolly get their figurative shit together because it's quite the glass house. ",
"I don't understand this as a response.\n\nIf calling a place a shithole is so bad and racist, how is saying it about him good response?",
"I can't see bystanders being particularly pissed off... maybe some prude with kids, but it's San Francisco at night so not many people like that would be around.\n\nAnd maybe the cops could get the person for violating some public obscenity laws, but other than that it's just light, so no damage is being done. \n\nSomeone has been doing this in DC for years, including projecting similar messages on Trump's hotel recently.",
"Oh, if we’re going that route. That’s a logical fallacy fallacy. ",
"I just looked at the top 5 cities for crime rate and 3 out of 5 are republican states. What’s that about virtue signaling?",
"Canadian here. He must be doing something right. Economy is doing great and my US investments are all killin’ it. He does say bad words though .",
"“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” It's ignorant but not racist",
"This conversation is about how politicians talk behind closed doors. Hillary's emails show examples of those. Unless there are better examples that is the best i have off the top of my head.\n\nFeel free to avoid that though and focus on 'muh hillary' response instead.\n\nAlso I haven't seen her wording in those emails mentioned once in the 50+ threads about the trump 'shithole' issue. Despite it showing pure hypocrisy by the left.",
"Well if that’s a sanctuary city then like 99% of cities are sanctuary cities. ",
"Bigly is so 2017.",
"You can't be eviscerated with cock? That's weird, since I eviscerated your mom with cock last night. AKA Disembowel. \n\nJust because you think words are rigid and static pieces of never changing boredom, doesn't mean I'm an idiot like you. \n\nI like how you felt the need to make up a degree and a business \n\nLol. Anyway I'm gonna go spit some shitty raps. \n\nIm done here, little fucking kidbrain",
"Am I not allowed to be on this thread? I don't get what you're saying. I was on reddit before this account and before Trump ran for president, I'll be on any damn thread I want and leave any comment I pelase. If you don't like it hit the downvote button and reee along.",
"Eh that’s what the left keeps shoving down our throats every chance, but it’s not working",
"Hahahaha, it wasn't, but nice try fake news man. Are you trying to say all this is Because of Obama. HAHAHAHAH,this is amazing I am saving that comment. You people have really lost your minds. You'll say that it's Nixon's fault the earthquake in Haiti happened in the first place next. Autism isn't curable, we will pay for your ticket move to Haiti.",
"Then he dumped the gun in the water and ran away. It isn't racism ya dingus.",
"Wow, what kind of sick fuck thinks \"fuck fascists\" is an absurd statement?",
">seperating the weed from the chaff.\n\nIt's \"wheat from the chaff,\" just fyi.\n\n>Trump exposes the disgusting part of the population and brings it to light like lifting the lid from a cesspit. \n\nThe irony is that _you_ are a member of this part of the population. You are just too dim to realize it.",
"> He's never left the campaign trail, buddy. \n\nWell you got that part right. First president to accept re election campaign money on the first day of being president. I’m sure you see nothing wrong with that and he’s just being really smart to you lol",
"On behalf of the Trump campaign, I'd like to thank you for your efforts in pushing more people to Trump and cementing other people's support of him. I hope you have a good year in 2018 as we expect your interactions with people will only further alienate them from your side of thinking. ",
"Why do you hate Shitmas? ",
"> I legitimately don't know what the promoted VP after a President removed from office would look like. \n\nAre you confirming that Drumpf is surely finished? That's it, Drumpf is surely finished!!!",
"Go buy more",
"I see this retort a lot from Trump supporters, and legitimately don't understand. Yes, Trump is currently the president. How does that change the statement that he's a terrible one?",
"I love how passionate California is in their hatred of Trump.",
"Aww punkin, someone spoiling your party?",
"Here are 10 ways Bernie can still win:",
"Man, how can he not be touched by how much hate the people bring towards him. It's like he floats above it on his moron cloud.",
"Link? I can't find anything about this.",
"It's amazing to see someone who is so confident in his ignorance like you haha.",
">More spurious arguments. Can you honestly say the Chinese administration hasn't been hostile to Trump more so than they ever were to Obama?\n \nTrump signed a $250 billion deal with them and got them to end their shitty trade practices. Talk is cheap, actions matter and China's actions towards Trump show they like him a lot. \n\n>A quick Google search shows no such thing. Quite the contrary. Why even lie about this? Oh wait, you're a Trump supporter, that's why.\n\nYou mean two tiny protests that didn't go anywhere LOL. Their governments supported Trump's travel ban. Nice try though. ",
"Yeah I'm not sure what this guy is on about.\n\nShitting on Jacob Zuma and the ANC is an officially recognized national past time. We bond over it",
"I’m pretty sure that most non-whites think that the president that is openly racist and trying to deport them is a complete shithole. ",
"> where it belongs. \n\nOn reddit?",
"Haiti is a shithole so.....",
"whatever",
" Umm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_San_Francisco?wprov=sfla1\n\nYou have never been there have you? ",
"Because Obama was referring to the conflict in Libya, not the entire nation itself. ",
"Liberals, since these countries aren't shitholes and are so amazing, why can't we deport the illegal immigrants living in this country back to those countries? Why would they want to live here, when their countries are so awesome?",
"I’m going to change it up ITT and try to be as respectful as possible. First off, thank you for the reply.👍\n\nI agree that the other person misrepresented facts, but I *also* disagree that it was a “freak accident”. It’s difficult to make a gun go off by accident, especially the type of gun he had. And he admitted to pulling the trigger and aiming it into a crowd. One of the first rules of owning/holding a gun is to assume that its loaded, and to only aim it at what you intend to destroy.\n\nI forget the details of the case, and I’m not a lawyer, but it still seems like he got off with a lighter sentence than other people who “accidentally” killed someone. Should he have been in prison for life? No. Should he have been in jail for a few years and/or have then been deported? Yes.",
"Yeah, my sister went on a missionary trip to like 20 countries all in Asia and South America. She couldn’t believe how different life is there. We really take a lot for granted ",
"Yea the President was out of line. But those places are shitholes. I find it annoying because he called the places shitholes not the people, the government in those countries have failed. ",
"http://imgur.com/jCD5jkv\n\nLike I said, graphs are hard. ",
"South Africa is a pretty decent place man",
"So many wooshes. ",
"LOL now your leaving because you got BTFO, how pathetic. ",
"If that's the case, it's a literal shithole.",
"I guess you've never heard of relevance?\n\nConservative buzzwords might be enough to make you popular with like minded friends, but everyone else expects actual arguments.",
"[You’re not helping](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k2g/san_francisco_federal_building/dsm96xt/?context=3).",
"Lol god people are so obsessed with Trump",
"Shit hole President getting made fun of by a shit hole state for calling out shit hole countries.",
"Can't expect much from someone whose post history screams 'Britain First'. ",
"Heard that about his first term and look where we are now...",
"I like November. It's like the Friday of the year",
"Trump WILL resign after this.",
"Where the “Shitshow President” sign from when Obama called Lybia a “shitshow?” Oh, San Francisco. Never mind. ",
"> I'm still winning even with all the hate mail I'm getting\n\nBruh, he’s literally under like 3 different investigations, his rate of work is less than half of those of the past 3 presidents, he has done less in the first 100 days (the most active time of a presidents term) than nearly every other president.\n\nIf you call that “winning” then what the hell is losing?",
"Dude, it's like you don't even understand what you're arguing. \nYou think I'm a Trump supporter because what, I believe he understands what he's doing? Jesus, get a grip. \n \nAnd I will not stand for being called a Trump supporter, that's uncalled for. Everyone you disagree with isn't a Trump supporter. [Even a casual scroll through my comment history will show I'm not.](https://www.reddit.com/r/esist/comments/7p3raa/trump_doesnt_appear_to_know_the_words_to_the/dseqn2e/) You're not even trying to be rational. Go take a nap.",
"How is lying about \"multiple rounds\" any better? It's not murder dude, for fuck's sake. ",
"Found the guy from China.",
"I’m ambivalent about spying. Knowledge is power. Bad guys want to undermine America. Yea, the nsa can probably see me jerking it, but whatever. ",
"There’s literally a video of him saying it...",
"He clearly explained what it turned up.",
"He knows how to play the media all the time. The media never shut up about him and that’s how he won.\n\nAny publicity is good publicity and the major news networks played right into Trump’s hands.",
"dogshit.",
"Antifa are communists, they are just as bad as nazi. You def. don't know history WOW.",
"All bullshit oversampled with people who don't like Trump. These have all been debunked LOL. Keep trying.",
"If the president calls countries \"shitholes\" in a private conversation that isn't on the record then he is a dangerous Nazi.\n\nIf citizens in San Francisco use a projector to publically call the president a shithole president on a Federal building it's funny, inspiring, and fighting the fascism!\n\nSee how dumb this is?",
"I'm thinking he will resign when it's explained to him how fucked he will be if he doesn't.",
"Isn't it great we live in a country where this is legal and no one is going to be dragged out of their home in the middle of the night? I feel we take our freedom of expression for granted often and just expect it's the norm everywhere. ",
"Wait so was I right? Also does that mean the police don't enforce any federal law?",
"Hillary isn't the President. I couldn't care less what she talks about. ",
"Genuine question to Trump supporters:\n\nWhy do you feel the *need* to defend Trump from anything bad that’s being thrown at him? \n\n\nThe degree of defense varies, but most of the time, it feels like you are defending him as if he were a member of your family; when in reality, he’s really just a random person that is the President and was barely known to the majority of the population a few years ago.",
"negative. You haven't effectively argued anything I've put forward. \n\nMore importantly, if you walk into a room and see a grown man arguing with a toddler, it's the grown man who looks the fool. \n\nTry not to choke on your pacifier. I'm out😂",
"What does this even mean? As shitty as he may be, this isn't very classy at all.",
"Not unless it also breaks state law.",
"You are verifiably stupid. Makes sense you support the most embarrassing president in modern history ",
"LOL yet you keep replying too funny tough guy. ",
"You're right but he pretty much told everyone while he was campaigning and he still got in. Stuff like this intrigues me, but it doesn't surprise me anymore. Between lying about seeing Muslims cheer when 9/11 happened and everything surrounding \"Build a wall\" (bad hombres and such) told me everything I needed to know",
"If I downvote you enough you will be wrong! Just watch!!!",
"What a time. To be alive.",
"Right? This piece of human shit has done and said so much worse, but the word shit hole has made the media finally grow a spine and piss off some people who were on the fence. \n\nI mean, whatever it takes honestly, but it's surprising that this was the limit. ",
"The hero we don't deserve.",
"*2018 is going to be a real shithole of a year",
"I'm preparing for a wave of hatred and downvotes but I mean, those countries are impoverished and very disadvantaged. Of course the use of \"shithole\" is not PC and I get that, very wrong on the presidents part. But I mean, how would you describe them when you're talking with a group of friends? Poor? Okay, yes. But they're shitty places to live when comparing them to the United States. If you expect me to call an apple an orange, I'm not gonna do that. For me, it feels like some of these nations take U.S. foreign aid for granted and sort of expect us to coming running and sign checks for millions of dollars and expect there to be no strings attached. ",
"Because it is 48% ;)",
"˙sǝʎ",
"Yeah. He's disgusting",
"Definitely not the only one. ",
"Sorry. Calling you a Trump supporter was a bit much.",
"ITT: DAE muh shitty sidewalks???",
"Yup, they say shit like, “European countries are doing well because of their ‘homogeneous populations’”. Because, somehow, if everyone is white, then the country will automatically be a utopia. It’s mega-ignorant.",
"This country has gone to shit when a federal building has to reduce itself to the 10-year old antics they accuse others of.\n\nStay classy, Scam Francisco.",
"I think maybe that's why he said it. It's a massive distraction, but he doesn't care so much about the surveillance bill as he does about what happens when his base finds out he doesn't know the words to the national anthem. He had to do something, and quick! So this is what he came up with.",
" Yes, look at the cesspool of Trump supporters arguing in this thread, it's disgusting, they are disgusting, we have a disgusting persistent, and this now let's these people feel that their disgusting comments are legitimized",
"It's actually making fun of liberals and news agencies who would take gaffes from the Trump campaign (or make on out of a molehill) and say things like that. \"Can Trump recover from the ABC tape?\" \"Trump calls all Mexicans racist, is that the end of his campaign?\" ",
"\n\nYou haven't put anything forward. \"The whole world hates that cowardly lyin\" that isn't anything LOL\n\n>I'm out😂\n\nYou said that twice already and yet you still reply. You keep contradicting yourself there doll.",
"New sign for the Obama library.",
"This is why we have journalists, to let us know about the important shit we need to know without having to spend all day doing research. That way we can stay informed and still have jobs and families. In the past journalists had integrity and offered factual objective stories. Now we have cable \"news\" networks and websites like Breitbart and Infowars. So it's a little harder to hear a real story and not just someone's opinion on it. Not impossible though. USA today is a good source, as is NPR news (the actual news, not the commentary shows). The Associated Press is the best of them all, and when it comes to US politics, the most objective sources are the BBC, Reuters and Al Jazeera.",
"Focus on the *why*. How can someone not understand *why* a person would want to leave a *shithole* to come to a country that's supposed to be a beacon of migration. \n\nYet he asks *why* people from Norway don't want to come here. A country that shows great disdain for Trump. He doesn't care bc they're white. \n\n",
"> who will covfefe you\n\nwouldn't that be a sex crime?",
"Exactly. That's why I'm tired of the whole \"it's a distraction\" mentality. Every time anything gets mass media attention, people love to scream it's a distraction for something. We're adults, we should be able to pay attention to more than one thing at a time.",
"San Francisco hasn’t had a republican mayor since 1964... ",
"At least Obama can read.",
"Where to start, you seem to know better than the most well paid \"graph readers\" http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-4-gdp-growth-promise-2017-1\n\nBut also your fake news is none stop, what art science class is given that teaches such fake news adaptability.\n\nCan you look at the stocks and tell me with your foresight of the future which stocks will be doing well. ",
"But Hati is a shithole. ...\nThere is no denying it. ",
"No doubt a 15 year old sad troll. Check the posting history.",
"Found someone left over from incels",
"But he was in jail for a few years. I don't know if he was deported, but I certainly agree, he should have been. Based on his interview, he made a few rather insane claims that I think should call the whole thing into question. He said he was 5 feet from her (untrue) and that he's 140 years old (untrue, clearly). I'm not defending the guy, but I do think it's unfair to say \"Fuck San Francisco\" because the liberals excuse murder only when it's committed by illegal immigrants. Obviously, not that many redditors agree.\n\nIt's just frustrating getting brigaded while posting on a site constantly accused of liberal bias. \n\nEdit: Upvoted you for reasonable response.",
"So mad you can't even concede intelligence when it's wrapped up nicely in ridiculous insults of the man. Jesus Christ, why live your life this way?",
"Salty ",
"This is hilarious. He never even said it lol. I mean, this is the news totally making up a story (or a congressional aid making shit up and the news not corroborating before running with it).\n\nThe propaganda is strong here on Reddit. ",
"Problem is Obama also said something as cringeworthy: he called Libya a shit show [source](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/barack-obama-says-david-cameron-allowed-libya-to-become-a-s-show-a6923976.html).\n\nYes, I do have the news from T_D, and it's one of the reasons I read both sides on sensitive issues: perspective. I do think this is relatively unworthy \"news\" pushed by the liberal media, especially since Obama didn't get half as much flac. Glad to see some other pov on this. \n\nAnother valid point IMHO following the journalists' vehement retort on-air is that while working-class immigrants built up the US (i.e. Irish, Italian and whatever he named), they're not as \"useful\" for the economy nowadays. But I'm not into US economy and history that much to give that back that claim up, it could be food for thought though.\n\nps still don't like your president, just in case someone thinks that now",
"Teenager? How generous of you!",
"That's because he is a poster at t_d",
"Very nice, still your narrative that only a liberal heard it just got owned. ",
"What kind of projector are people using for something like this?",
"Yes I understand where you are coming from. It doesn't really surprise me either but I think it is still important to say/do something about it (at least make a fuss) just to make sure this kind of behaviour is not normalised. If there is one thing that I think Trump has done to really damaged American politics with is that he's normalised a lot of things that are just not acceptable for a president to do or say (or for anyone in high public office). I hate to think that kids growing up in the US see this kind of behaviour as normal for an American president. ",
"Nah, it’s Tommy W. as usual",
"Swing and a miss",
"Ok, Ivan. ",
"Says who?",
"They forgot the word racist.",
"SO VOLATILE! *browses reddit for a few more hours.*",
"Trump supporter here, kind to all my friends and acquaintances. Most of my friends are Muslim and we sit for hours talking shit about politics and religion and then help each other when we are in need. You're wrong, and a bigot! Sad!",
"You're right, race is the only reason why. No other reason besides that, no sir",
"Literally? Yes. You can make dissent illegal without invoking the death penalty. ",
"I’ve never been more proud to be an American. Everyone else who so bullishly loves to call our democratically elected president a shit-hole should feel proud to live a country that gives you the freedom to so publicly disrespect our president. Continue to question and challenge the government always, but petty displays such as the above and twitter backlash only sink you to the level of immaturity which originally upset you. \n\nTo my fellow Americans who mindlessly upvote this type of crap on the internet all day. I challenge you to stay informed and most importantly vote in 2018 & 2020. If you’re not willing to do that then move. God bless the United States! ",
"It's not any better I agree. No need to lie or exaggerate about a case that clearly shows the danger of political cheerleading in a courtroom.",
"It's all good.",
"Are democrats bad? Yes. Are they worse than Republicans? Absolutely not. I'm sorry to sound mean, but I just hate this false equivalence people have that \"democrats and Republicans are both terrible\". Yes, they are both terrible, but there is a *huge* difference between the two. Yes, Hillary would have been a bad president, she would have been mediocre at best, but come on, do you seriously think she would have done all the stupid shit this administration is doing? Do you seriously think that? \nThere are many issues that I don't like about Hillary, but she wouldn't have pulled the US out of the Paris Climate Agreement, she wouldn't have repealed net neutrality, she wouldn't have signed a terrible tax bill that creates a massive hole in the deficit, she wouldn't have banned people from seven countries as an intent to ban Muslims, and most definitely, she wouldn't have the incredibly un-presidential attitude that Trump has. And sadly, in the US, and specially in swing states, not voting for Hillary is effectively handing the election to Trump.",
"We are, maybe you didn't notice.",
"The Dems have been steadily closing the gap in Arizona for some time, coming within 70,000 votes in 2012. I expect that one could very well flip this time.\n\nThe others will take a lot more work, but *if* Republicans stay home or vote third party out of discomfort for the president *and* Democrats come out in force, I don't think Nebraska and Tennessee would be unachievable. Nebraska was 59% Republican in 2012, but went quite strongly (64%) Democrat in 2006 and very narrowly Democrat in 2000. Tennessee fluctuates a lot; it had a strong Republican vote in 2012, but was very close the time before that, in 2006.\n\nTexas has also closed the gap substantially over the last two decades, but is probably a lost cause this time around, although 2024 or 2030 could be a different story. Mississippi came within 10% in 2008, probably on the back of Obama's election, but widened again in 2012. If black and hispanic voters come out in force, you could *maybe* achieve the slimmest of slim Democratic victories, but I wouldn't put money on it.\n\nUtah and Wyoming are likely to be unachievable for a generation. They're steadily Republican, and would need to be seriously pissed off with Trump to flip.\n\n*****\n\nFlorida will almost certainly stay Democrat. They're a swing state in presidential elections but steadily Democratic in Senate elections, and Trump's popularity there is pretty low.\n\nNorth Dakota will be a hold for the Democrats pretty easily, I reckon. 2012 looks like an outlier, induced by Obama's second-term.\n\nIn Montana, I anticipate a narrow victory for Dems, but it could go either way. Same for Missouri.\n\nIndiana... yeah, that one could flip. The 2012 victory for the Dems was a major outlier, and it all depends on the specifics of that race and how much of a negative impact Trump has there.",
"To be fair no one talked about it when Obama expanded these surveillance laws in the first place. They were pissed when Bush did it, as we should be, but obvious partisanship is obvious.",
"no way, there are more words to come. have you learned nothing?",
"He said Norway*",
"He's under 1\n\n>his rate of work is less than half of those of the past 3 presidents\n\nLOL Bullshit. \n\n>, he has done less in the first 100 days (the most active time of a presidents term) than nearly every other president.\n\nMore bullshit. do a quick internet search and you'll see you are full of shit LOL. \n\n>If you call that “winning” then what the hell is losing?\n\nyou crying and making up bullshit LOL",
"I disagree, a pepper a day keeps the shithole gay, my friend",
"Yeah everyone loves CARB, lul",
"Man, you are dense.",
"This is retarded. Shithole refers to a place, not a person.",
"And to you too.",
"There is no expansion to surveillance. They just reauthorized the same law for another 6 years. No new liberties were taken away this time.",
"For fiscal reasons?",
">the Peninsula is fully developed\n\n...???",
"Hahahaha! \n\nThe president eats fast food and only cares about the super rich. I ask a question about it and im a bigot. \n\n10/10 mental gymnastics. Trump supporters are all the same. Willung to burn down the country for a sip of librul tearz.",
"Yes they are. San Francisco was trending and already was a complete dumpster fire long before Trump came in office. As a matter of fact San Francisco is 91% liberal, and is the opposite of Trump on literally every issue. It's a sanctuary City that had embraced and strives for social justice. \n\n\nThey refused to build housing to accommodate the influx of actual working people moving to the city. They opposed any and all new development and created an affordable housing crisis. They did however welcome drug addicts, illegal aliens, and vagrants with open arms and strive to accommodate them by decriminalizing sleeping on sidewalks and in public, outlawing plastic bags and a refusal to prosecute drug crime. The result is the highest cost of living in the nation, the nation's worst homeless problem, the nation's highest property crime rate, with feces and needles littering the town because homeless people don't have a bag to throw their syringe or shit in cause it's illegal. \n\nDon't try and blame trump for failed policies implemented by people who are the exact opposite of Trump, long before Trump even considered running for president. However let them keep worrying about Trump destroying their city as if it hadn't already arrived at destination fucked years ago.\n\nEdit: Destination Fucked",
"> rasict.",
"I love that the visit by the Norwegian pm spawned this new meme.\n\nWe're relevant again! ",
"> Calling me a racist means you're the real racist!!",
"Yes, glad we’re in mostly agreement. It was a fucked up situation that could’ve been handled differently, but it’s not representative of the entire city of SF.\n\nThanks, and hope you have a great weekend😄",
"You are missing the point, either purposely or out of lack of information. Yes, this is not a PC way to discuss the issue of countries that struggle to build and maintain stable political, economic, and social institutions. And sure, you can complain about how US aid is taken for granted without offering any actual evidence to support your point. \n\nHowever, one of the big things that makes this racist is that he is claiming we shouldn’t accept people from countries with populations largely made up of people of color and that we should accept people from countries with largely white populations. This is racism.\n\nOuch, downvotes for logic and reason over anger and hatred. What a time to be a citizen in a country founded on enlightened rationalism!",
"They only listen if it includes the word free.",
"At least we’re showing kids how to handle a president we don’t like with class",
" Sorry, must have missed that tweet ",
"San Francisco: Shithole City",
"Based on the fact you disagree with their politics. Real sound fact checking there",
"I keep trying to understand the mentality of one of his followers and I just can't. You willingly give up control of your mind to a cretin that wouldn't tell his driver to slow down if he saw you dying in the street. He tells you that basically everyone in the world is a liar except him, and you believe him. This is the worst cultish behavior I have ever seen. What's sad is you won't change your mind or care, no matter what the facts say, because he's got you thinking that he's being picked on by basically _everyone._ Isn't there ever a point where it dawns on you that instead of it being the entire media, nearly every major world leader, countless professional organizations, millions of your fellow Americans, the people inside his own White House, and even the fucking Pope being in on some conspiracy...maybe, just maybe Trump is the crazy one? ",
"Shithole San Francisco",
"Lol",
"We use it quite often in Scotland already. That or the alternative shitehole which is just the same.",
"so much wrong with this. First I’ll point out your slur against people with intellectual disabilities. Now, the shithole country comment was directed at countries where people of color make up the majority population. He then said we should accept people from better countries and referenced some majority white nations. That is racism.",
"if this is some innuendo on Trump's \"unpresidential\" twitter rage, I'm the wrong person to tell this mate. I'd rather you reply to my valid comparison with Obama.",
"San Francisco sits on peninsula jutting into the Bay. There is practically no undeveloped land left on the peninsula",
"So CA is terrible because they are trying to reduce litter and waste? I thought the bag charge was bull shit when it went into effect, but after a year or so I noticed a drastic change in how much I would see plastic bags littered every where and blowing across freeways. I now keep a bag full of bags in my truck and don't need to buy bags. I think all states should do it.\n\nI visited a friend in MS, I was shocked when we went to get groceries. They used a fuck ton of plastic bags at the Wal-Mart. Double bagging single items, one grocery trip resulted in a tumble weed sized ball of bags, and this was just a small trip for a single guy and me visiting with my wife. No wonder I saw so many plastic bags being littered and blowing across the freeway.",
"It's going to be a long year. We won't even remember this.",
"Shithole protestors got no job ain't got nothing to do..............",
"What did he say?",
"i dont think this is going to go down in impeachment. I think Mueller’s public play is obstruction but his real play is much deeper and tougher. If it is determined that not only trumpco was being motivated by a foreign enemy but a large portion of the congressional GOP, more than likely some dems, and only God and Mueller’s team know what else, then we’re looking at supreme court levels of activity, not congressional. ",
"This is exactly how I feel. I consider myself very left, but I can't even have a conversation with some of the more radical lefties. I got straight up screamed at by a feminist for asking her if she thought any better of people who are accused of sexual misconduct and apologize as opposed to people who dont. \n\nI have never been screamed at so intensely and told what I piece of shit I am. I'm sorry, I don't do tribalism and conversation is always good in my opinion.",
"I wouldn't expect anything else from a city like San Francisco ",
"I concur, same shit different day. ",
"By capita, but buy sheer numbers no. ",
"I couldn't agree with you more about all of this. It's definitely important to care enough to make a fuss at minimum because we don't want Presidents acting like this in the future nor do we want anyone to see this as normal. Here's hoping he's a one term POTUS (if even that) and we all look back at this as a dark time in the US Presidency with no desire to replicate it.",
"It's sort of relevant when determining where we should be receiving immigrants from. ",
"They’ve been making unprovable claims for a year and very, very few of them have even been proven. Many caught in lies. Is it so hard to believe their bias has affected their journalism? ",
"Yea it was an accidental shooting but that dude should’ve been removed from this country long ago",
"The greatest merit of Trump is forcing your kind of people into overdrive. I believe that was the main reason he was elected. He is genuine. You are fake.",
"Make Shitholes Great Again",
"Did you even read the comment?",
"This is a classic example of how framing things a certain way changes the entire perception of the same thing for some people. The ENTIRE reason the policy and verbiage used for this topic was carefully engineered by politicians exactly in the way it exists is so that you would one day ask the question you just did. Today is that day. Mission accomplished. \n\n\nBy renewing or \"preserving\" something which was specifically designed not to be preserved and set to expire for a reason, you're taking a step towards making something permanent, which was supposed to be temporary. \n\nRepublicans and in this day and age politicians on both sides really have gotten GREAT at doing stuff like this with privacy and taxation issues. \n\n\"Hey let's just keep 'extending' these temporary tax cuts until they become so ingrained that over time we get everyone to agree to make em permanent!\"\n\nThis is also a concept/principle of how people in the past have taken over land and territory. \"Temporary\" settlements, over time, tend to turn into permanent homes. \n\nAt the end of the day, that is absolutely EXPANSION. ",
"I have equally seen and dealt with disgusting and rude comments from the other side of the political spectrum who oppose Trump. Not disagreeing with you, I have seen a lot of ignorant and horrible things from Trump supporters as well. Just another example that not all supporters of Trump are horrible examples, just like not all liberal or Trump haters are examples of those that are kind.",
"You didn’t answer the question. Is he a *liberal?* Here’s a hint, it’s going to be either a “yes” or a “no”\n\nEdit: u/morepancakes stumped?",
" Look at shit states in the south, the money CA brings in keeps them going. ",
"That's nice dear.\n\n~~I'm not sure why anyone would think that hearing bad things about Hillary Clinton would automatically effect people in any way, I'm English I don't have a horse in this race I'm just glancing over at America and feeling glad I live by the river...~~",
"I suppose most of us probably want our president, the face of our nation, to live up to these ideals and are frustrated when he acts like a child. I agree that we need to raise the level of knowledge and discourse, however, the way you put this comment suggests the impetus is on the people when we should have leaders who represent these ideals as well.\n\nAlso, there is no god.",
"No, he's not intelligent.\n\nHe's just a very useful-to-our-plutocrats idiot.",
"I came for the salt",
"No, they’re absolutely right. He’s never trump clown. He may as well be a liberal.",
" Keep sucking those chickens. ",
"Nobody called me a racist. I called out the only person in the conversation who thinks \"people from shithole countries\" is exclusive to people of color.\n\nThe same group of people who think only poc live in shithole countries are the same people who think black people in the US are too stupid and poor to get an ID.\n\nhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=odB1wWPqSlE\n\nThe left is built on identity politics and racism.",
" Is it illegal? ",
"I protest and also have a job..........................so?",
"I agree and your response has lowered my blood pressure. I should spend less time on reddit.",
"Okay who let the 12 year old change the projector msg...",
"64-D chess. Now he doesn't have to worry about immigration reform. ",
"Narcissists specialize in winning people over, so I think he may be both. Showman *and* narcissist. ",
"The prosecution went with too high of charge because they thought it was a slam dunk. I agree with what you say, but the legal system screwed this one up",
"> If we're going to devolve into calling names, it's not that hard to do the same to you. But of course, thats all Trump supporters know how to do. \n\nThis entire thread is filled with anti Trump hate that doesn't have much as far as facts to back it up. There is no way you can claim that Trump supporters are the only ones name calling and come off as anything but a hypocrite.",
"Well thank god that shit hole from Chicago Is no longer president. ",
"I think people are more upset that he complained about immigrants coming from shithole countries rather than countries like Norway.",
"Do note that it is only protected in public places, a supermarket can and probably will kick you out if you projected something they don't like inside...",
"You’re not the only one.",
"The problem is we're seemingly not able",
"Because *all* anonymous sources are bs. Every single one. /s\n\nEdit: apparently people actually believe that. Sad!",
"Is there somewhere I can sign up? I'd like to get paid to make these comments",
"Okay who let the 12 year old change the projector msg...",
"Shithole city",
"Ironically if you had read the Fire and Fury book you’d know this Russia crap is nothing but bullshit. Mueller has had a year long investigation going and yet not a single person has been linked to Russian election meddling. Keep dreaming ",
"Make it stop",
"I disagree, fake news and alternate realities have made a situation where mockery and ridicule is applicable and effective.\n\nThere is a reason alt right trolls jump at the opportunity to tell someone on the center or left that they should **not** use mockery and condescension. \n\nIt works, and it is their kyrptonite, because it is what their own movement is founded on and it is how they recruited everyone in it. ",
"I'm sure the question \"where will the homeless shit into?\" was at the top of the list when they outlawed plastic bags....for the state. And others states actually bus their homeless to SF and just eat the fines because they're jack shit",
"r/trashy\n\nI hate Trump, but this is sooooooooo trashy.",
"Yikes",
"Not to mention the President is the face of our foreign policy and our diplomat to the world.\n\nBut what good is diplomacy? /s\n\nEdit: Looks like I pissed off some Trump supporters. FeelsGoodMan",
"I just called SF a shithole last time I was there. Trash everywhere and it stinks like the whole city was rinsed in piss.",
"Trump is right those countries are shitholes. Not sure how being factual is racist. It's nice to finally have a leader that speaks the truth. If those countries weren't shitholes than why are they trying to leave? ",
"Liberal shithole of a city with homeless people everywhere... and 1/4 mil a year elitists that tell us how to think and feel. ",
"> He’s never trump clown.\n\nLearn english, Boris. ",
"Or we can fight to keep it so our grocery budget isn't raped.",
"And yet the media is equally as moronic!",
"Shithole state and bank",
"I helped hand paint that ad on the building next to it though ",
"Move to Haiti",
"California has the highest rate of poverty out of any state...",
"Shithole San Francisco ",
">He is genuine. You are fake.\n\nOh you sweet little child. If you ever come to your senses you will be horrified by your naivety. ",
"It’s scary to watch. I mean they trick/change so many minds to defend this. However it really should be terrifying to say the least. People are like “I like this mouth piece sticking it to “the man” (I thought they were the man?) but encouraging these actions/behaviors/ or hell language!?!\n\nI’m the millennial everyone blames (just turning 30) but I promise I’m trying my best to promise better laws for as many as possible but it takes everyone i know and then who they know and so on lol\n\nThis blatant advertising needs to stop. I didn’t think we voted for a shock comedy president, but his words and the “giggles” behind it need to stop\n\nThese comments are dangerous, these comments are scary, these comments shouldn’t be made jokes of YET (meaning 20 years from now sure let’s laugh if we still have a country or are in the first world’s company anymore.....they’re affecting real consequences in our global view....better yet the world view of us 😪\n\nOn phone sorry for errors ",
"Just because it is their name doesn't mean it's true. You think the Democratic People Republic of Korea is actually democratic?\n\nAntifa is a literal terrorist group, becoming the thing they hate.",
"I like how you said `the reddit` - I'm imagining a stadium named \"The Reddit\" now. Where do you want to place it?",
"He says he didn't say it",
"But why? The average Norwegian would make a far far better immigrant then the average, for example, Eritrean. They wpuld add more skills and value, their English would be better, they would assimilate better.\n\nAverage here. Not individual cases.",
"Isnt \"shit\" generally considered offensive since it is censored everywhere everytime? Like then n-word would, of f-word. Please let that sink in, this is the president we have.",
"haha know the feeling",
"Yes, very mature thank you. The only hope he gives Americans is one of \"hopefully one day we have a president who isn't a whiny man child rapist hypocrite\".",
"Eh, you should spend a day in my office and I think you'd change this statement ",
"If you're unable to address the argument at hand, please don't bother responding at all. This is immature and only reflects poorly on you. \n\nu/theorymeltfool seems to be one of the few rational people commenting in this subthread. ",
"You’re not special enough for me to care about grammar. ",
"So Antifa is just a \"conservative buzzword?\" Is that your \"actual argument?\"",
"Ok, Boris. ",
"I don't keep up with California too much because it's a disgusting state with no 2nd amendment, but isn't San Francisco the city that takes in illegals and protects them after they kill innocent white girls? Or is that San Diego?",
"It’s not about him saying the word shithole. It’s the racism behind the comment. ",
"He probably did say it and is just trying to cover his ass now because of the criticism. ",
"Keep drinking that Kool Aid while our president dismantles our country for $.",
" You obviously never had a maid. $2 a hour and you would never find anyone. In CA, even $10 you might get someone, but they would probably steal your shit and break things. $20 an hour is more reasonable for someone who knows what they are doing and you can trust. \n\nNow of we want to speak about under paid, let's look at that salad you probably didn't eat last night. The veggies in it probably came from CA. CA is the salad bowl of the US, and all states gain from the illegal immigrants working in CA fields picking veggies and strawberries and such, and less than minimum wage.",
"Please don’t spout facts... they don’t like that",
"Let me guess: either that country is a shithole, or the refugees can safely get back to their country",
"Trump supporters are actually the ones with families that have jobs.\n\nLiberals are the degenerates.",
">You left out the part where it was a freak accident involving him shooting the pavement \n\nDrunk driving deaths are accidents too, but we prosecute those because the driver should know that drunk driving is an inherently dangerous activity. So is firing a gun in a public place. \n\n\n>And the man did serve jail time. \n\nOnly for possessing the gun. That's like only prosecuting a drunk driver for driving without a licence. \n",
"I wonder how long until he tweets about it.",
"put \"president\" in quotes.",
"I meant highest cost of living and highest rate of homelessness aren't unrelated problems.\n\nSan Francisco is mostly afflicted by really selfish nimby home owners who want to keep the stranglehold on housing quantity so as to keep their housing prices going up, despite excessive demand for housing.",
"We’ve become too sensitive as a country ",
"I read it fine, 3 times overand its still a false dichotomy. ",
"Not saying I agree or disagree with this, but these kind of things create hateful opinions among the masses who are ignorant of what is actually going on in their own country. ",
"When everyone else says its, its ok. If the president says it its bad.",
"> There was a video that someone made \n\nSounds really creditable! I once saw \"a video someone made\" that said the earth was flat, so it must be, right? ",
"Alleged shithole president. Love the two Prius’s parked out front. I’d rather be killed than live in california. ",
"Came here looking for this comment. Thank you for telling it like it is. ",
"More like too dumb and easily misinformed by social media",
"It’s okay, California never wanted you in the first place anyways",
"It’s not wrong ",
"It’s hilarious to me that you didn’t give a source for your wildly inaccurate claim, yet everyone responding to you did. And yet I’m still willing to bet you’ll believe your *own* claim over factual sources and experiences of people who have been/live there. That’s just pathetic.",
"No, I completely understand why. \n\nIt's just, last year an American citizen was murdered at a white supremacists rally. The president dragged his feet for what, two days before condemning the act? Then a day later he couldn't keep his mouth shut and made his famous \"good people\" remark. \n\nI just feel like the shithole comment is getting a stronger reaction. \n\nAgain, whatever it takes, I'm not complaining. ",
"There is light graffiti software calculating the distance and angle using an invisible laser and motion tracking, using this to compensate for the distortion, resulting in a perfect placement, angle and focus. It does this in real time. You can literally drive past the building on a bumpy road and have it right on this spot, perfectly angled, perfectly in focus. The technology is to allow \"walk-by\" without getting caught, when you walk by casually and it compensate for your movements. I made everything up.",
"Pause. So the moment anyone says Trump has done anything good on here- it’s a Fox talking point and demand “sources” and links.\n\nBut you get to spew complete shit and it’s gospel - part of the mafias!? And I’ll show you people of every color on both sides of the isle fuck contractors and cook books- but still pay more than you in taxes and give to charity. Not that it matters to you oh righteous one it sounds like you’re just regurgitating the masses of reddit and every other MSM.",
">But the thing is, sanctuary cities will and do turn felonious illegal immigrants over to federal authorities. \n\nNo they don't. They released the shooter in this case without telling federal authorities. \n\n",
"Stop saying \"literally\" please.",
"San Fran is certainly a shithole.",
"Is it really though? ",
"I wonder how many people read this and don't recognize the sarcasm.",
"O.o touchy! Go read the top comment in this thread before you get defensive about your organization. ",
">You willingly give up control of your mind to a cretin that wouldn't tell his driver to slow down if he saw you dying in the street.\n\nNo one controls my mind. i'm an independent and don't follow any political group. How do you know Trump would stop to help if I was dying. That's just your overopinonated drivel. \n\n>He tells you that basically everyone in the world is a liar except him, and you believe him.\n\nAfter watching the MSM lie for Obama for 8 years and Hillary for longer than that I'm def. not going to believe the BS. I can't count the number of times CNN and the others have been wrong and flat out gotten caught shilling. Yeah, you're the one brainwashed. \n\n>This is the worst cultish behavior I have ever seen. \n\nHa ha ha ha ha ha ha how many cults have yo been a part of doll?\n\n>What's sad is you won't change your mind or care, no matter what the facts say, because he's got you thinking that he's being picked on by basically everyone.\n\nYou are way off. I didn't vote for Trump. I voted third party and as I saw more and more of the bullshit narrative the MSM and regressive liberals were pushing I joined the Trump Train. \n\n>the entire media,\n\nFalse\n\n>nearly every major world leader\n\nFalse again\n\n> countless professional organizations\n\nCountless organizations support him so false again\n\n> millions of your fellow Americans\n\nMillions of my fellow Americans voted for him and that's why he is the President. So, again false.\n\n>the people inside his own White House,\n\nYou mean the Obama people that were left over and are being removed. False again. \n\n> and even the fucking Pope\n\nis that suppose to appeal to me like I care what he is supposed to think?\n\n>Trump is the crazy one?\n\nHe's def not crazy, but if you think he is, prove it. Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass. How does it feel being so wrong?",
"I guess you could say they are... shithole states?",
"Degenerates are found across the entirety of the political spectrum, if you believe they are only found in certain groups of people then you should like likely detach yourself from your upbringing and seriously re-evaluate how you view the world",
"The State of the Union address is only 17 days away. I'm sure POTUS will live tweet the whole thing",
"She's not an illegal.",
"In west Philadelphia born and raised\nOn the playground was where I spent most of my days\nChillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool\nAnd all shooting some b-ball outside of the school\nWhen a couple of guys who were up to no good\nStarted making trouble in my neighborhood\nI got in one little fight and my mom got scared\nShe said, \"You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.\"",
"So he's either an asshole or a liar. Or both.",
"What are you protesting? A growing economy? Increase jobs what are you an idiot?",
"Except for all the empty lots, and the Bayshore, and the entire hillsides, and almost everything West of that.",
"I understand that people disagree with our president (myself being one of them), but is this really going to advance our cause? It just makes us look like idiots.",
"Because the economy has roared to life like we haven't seen since the 1990s.",
"Guess they didn’t hear that the source for this comment retracted that he heard Trump say ‘shithole’?",
"Classy.",
"Hard to claim that when you have no idea about the political climate of South Africa. ",
"We wish you a Merry Shithole\n\nWe wish you a Merry Shithole\n\nWe wish you a Merry Shithole\n\nAnd a happy smooth stool!\n",
"Oh, this will definitely make things better. ",
"Looks like they forgot the comma.\n\nI am sure he already knows this about San Francisco.",
" So where are you from? Tell me if this magical place that is so much better than SF!",
"I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but whether you like him or not I think we ought to show the President at least some level of respect. I get that he’s made some bad comments and isn’t well liked, but at the end of the day he’s still the President.",
"So you are willing to spend our tax dollars taking in violent illegal immigrants, but american homeless men don't deserve your compassion?\n\nLol, it amazes me that the left can't figure out why so much of the country considers them to be shameless hypocrites, at *best*.",
"Street art capital, definitely not the grafitti capital.",
"The perception of Antifa that Conservatives try and push is pretty much a buzzword yeah",
" What happened in SF? Last time I went through I got stoned and had a awesome burrito in the mission. ",
"Wow you are very smart Mr. Logic.",
"No *additional* liberties were taken away compared to the ones taken away previous years - we continue to have the previous set of liberties taken away, for the measly cost of only $400,000,000,000, or $190 per person and year (350 m citizens / 6 years). ",
"This is sorta immature funny, but could also be in r/trashy. Kids could see this.",
"No, sorry. You thought you made a clever point, you felt so triumphant hitting that save button, but you haven't. ",
"Do you like to shit on your wifes face?",
"Bill Clinton is our only rapist that was in my White House. ",
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"California is booming economically and a vital part of our country’s economy. So much of our country’s technology is developed in that state. Stop being brainwashed by right wing media to hate your fellow countrymen. ",
"I don't think anyone needs to push anything - their actions speak for themselves.",
"The previous president called Libya a “shit show” to the UK prime minister. It wasn’t paraded through the news as a big deal. And that wasn’t from an unknown source or denied to have been said. ",
"Wow that pretty racist you need to let those people in and provide for them, they are your responsibility.",
"> Because no one wants to do research anymore.\n\nOK GOT IT!",
" Stop blaming everyone and everything else for San Francisco failing miserably and being a shining example of how to destroy a city. They literally passed city ordinances and put policies into place that begged people to send their homeless. \n\n\nAlso it's obvious that where the homeless will shit into wasn't a question they considered asking. Seems like they failed to ask a lot of questions and analyze any of the possible consequences that came with their policies. The result is shit on the streets, used needles, homelessness, inflation, crime, and unaffordable housing. ",
"Crazier thing is had she never been born she wouldn't have died.\n\nMine is just as true as yours. It also has just as much relevance, zero.\n\nPeople, statements such as this are designed to cause shit. They don't help anything, all they do is stir up a pot of emotions to ensure that you won't be likely to look at the actual problem objectively or rationally.\n\nOh, it is objective and rational you say? We should build a giant wall you say? Keep all the people from these shithole countries out in the first place you say? Ignore that this could just have easily been an American that did this you say?\n\nNo. Just hell no.",
"Yet the problem remains that he becomes an extremely useful tool, being that there is a vast machine of doers in Washington who can pull strings while we look at the imbecile.",
"You might be a great person in general, but for some reason you voted for a thin skinned incompetent racist and misogynist. What confuses people is why you were ok with that.",
"Dude Oakland isn't that bad... It has a few bad parts like all other cities. \n\nHave you actually been to the area in the last few years?",
"Wrong OP, OPOP!",
"I thought Sweden was anti-troll",
"Okay, but what’s keming?",
"[Got you homie](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2761523.1471916213!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/tamblyn23f-3-web.jpg)",
"Liar I could understand because he is trying to cover his ass, but I don't see how he is an asshole. He's telling the truth and people think he's an asshole because they got offended. It's the fucking truth people open your eyes, if your country receives billions in government aid from the US and still cant get there shit together than yes your country is a shithole. ",
"How is it disrespectful to use his own words to describe him? If it's so disrespectful, maybe the President of the United States shouldn't be saying it about other people?",
"Keep in mind people, it hasn't even been a year yet.",
"Do you need your safe space?",
"The brain that made this needs a medal",
"That was probably the most ignorant thing I read today. ",
"you're proving my point",
"And the fact that he never said it.",
"Free speech didn't win, they just for some reason didn't think it was racist. It is.",
"Did it matter to you that Obama’s called Libya a ‘shit show’ and we don’t even know if Trump said this... one anonymous source that has been denied. ",
"You do realize you can make a headline say anything and that it doesn’t mean it’s real News, right? That story was proven false. Do some actual digging and not sensationalize everything. \nAlso what’s the problem with being rich or white or old? You sound classist, racist, and ageist, you bigot. ",
"When he acts with the dignity of the office he’ll get the respect afforded to the office.",
"Trump is an embarrassment to our country. ",
"You’re making a lot of assumptions my friend. First, I never watch tv. Second, I trust no one and nothing until I can verify it. So you’re wrong about me. \n\nAlso, here is that list: \n\nPresident Donald Trump's Accomplishment List:\nTrump Government\n\nJanuary\nTrump signs bipartisan bill to combat synthetic opioids\n\nTrump Shrinks Federal Bureaucracy -16000\n\nPresident Trump set a record for lifetime appointed judges in 2017\n\nTrump Signed 96 Laws In 2017\n\nDecember\nTrump Administration Set to Roll Back $900 Million in Obama-Era Offshore Drilling Regulations\n\nU.S. Imposes Sanctions on 52 People and Entities for Abuse and Corruption\n\nIndividual Mandate of Obamacare REPEALED\n\nSenate Passes Historic Sweeping Tax Reform\n\nClimate Change REMOVED from 'Threat List'\n\nTrump Admin is a Deregulation Machine: Eliminating 22:1\n\nTrump signs $700 billion defense bill, gives troops largest pay raise in 7 years\n\nNew Space Policy Directive Calls for Human Expansion Across Solar System\n\nTrump Declares Jerusalem the Capital of Israel\n\nSenate Passes Sweeping Tax Reform - 20% Corporate rate - Largest in 31 Years.\n\nU.S. pulls out of UN's Global Compact on Migration\n\nNovember\nTrump Shuts Down CIA funding of Syrian Rebels\n\nHouse Passes Tax Bill in Major Step Toward Overhaul\n\nOctober\nSenate Passes Budget Resolution Clearing the Way to pass Tax Reform with a Simple Majority\n\nTrump's HHS defines life as beginning at conception\n\nIran Deal: DECERTIFIED\n\nTrump: 'We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values'\n\nTrump administration abandons the Obama-era clean power plan aimed at reducing global warming\n\nSchool Choice tops the list of Priorities U.S. Education Department Grants\n\nTrump Signs Healthcare Order, Expands Choice and Access through associations\n\nUS and Israel withdraw from UNESCO citing \"anti-Israel bias\"\n\nTrump has written 46 Executive Orders\n\nSeptember\nExecutive order enabling Treasury Deparment to target companies doing business with North Korea\n\nAugust\nTrump has signed 53 bills into law\n\nEnding many of Obama's useless Executive Orders\n\nTrump Signs Order Rolling Back Environmental Rules on Infrastructure\n\n11,000 government jobs slashed under Trump - downsizing government\n\nUN Security Council unanimously imposed new sanctions on North Korea\n\nSenate confirms 65 Trump nominees for various positions\n\nU.S. Small Business Administration opens assistance center\n\nJuly\n800 Obama regulations cut - Saved over $200 billion\n\nEPA's Pruitt moves to roll back over 30 environmental regulations in record time\n\nCut the White House budget - Saved taxpayers $22 million\n\nJune\nHaley Tells Congress US Assuming More Assertive Role at UN\n\nTrump’s EPA To Repeal Obama’s ‘Waters Of The US’ Rule\n\nEliminated 1200 man hours of wasteful paperwork requirements including Y2K preparedness\n\nPresident Trump Announces “Massive Permit Reform\" Push\n\nTrump Lays Out Plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control System\n\nStatement by President Trump on the Paris Climate Accord\n\nMay\nTreasury to call for rolling back banking regulations\n\nTrump orders a Voter Fraud Commission to investigate 2016 election\n\nFired corrupt and incompetent FBI Director James Comey\n\nHHS to Rescind Birth Control Mandate in Obamacare\n\nApril\nAppointed conservative Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court\n\nBen Carson Finds $500 Billion (Billion!) In Errors during Audit of Obama HUD\n\nMarch\nPresident Trump's executive order will undo Obama's Clean Power Plan rule\n\nU.S. Will have Free but Fair and Balanced Trade: Mnuchin\n\nExecutive order to reduce operating costs of the Federal Government\n\nFired all 46 attorney generals hired by Obama\n\nFebruary\nPurging the State Department of Obama loyalists\n\nJanuary\nFixing lobbying laws - 5 year lobbying ban on White House officials\n\nPut a regulatory freeze on all federal agencies\n\nCutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)\n\n45th PRESIDENT of the United States of America, DONALD J. TRUMP\n\nTrump Homeland Security\n\nJanuary\nICE is Recruiting Veterans to Combat Child Trafficking\n\nDecember\nEnd of Year Report: Deportations up 40% - Historically Low Crossings\n\nOctober\nDHS: Announces New Procedures for Refugee Admissions\n\nDeportations From the Interior up 34%\n\nDACA Renewals Drop 21%\n\n30-foot concrete slab prototypes erected along border\n\nSeptember\nICE has conducted a MASSIVE raid on sanctuary cities this week - 498 illegal immigrants arrested\n\nTrump has updated his travel ban, includes these 8 countries - Chad, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Somalia - NO EXPIRATION DATE\n\nCrossing The Border Illegally Is Harder Than It’s Been In 50 Years\n\nWithholding Federal Funds from Sanctuary Cities - Must allow ICE access to jails and notify befor release\n\n$1.6 billion down payment to start building the wall\n\nTrump cuts off visas for countries that refuse deported immigrants\n\nRescinded DACA\n\nAugust\nExtreme Vetting' for some green cards\n\nDeportation orders up 31% nationwide under Trump\n\nDeportation Orders Up 30%\n\nMiami has removed its \"sanctuary\" status\n\nICE raids targeting families net 650 arrests\n\nJuly\nDenver To ICE: Stop Arresting Illegal Immigrants At Courthouse. ICE To Denver: Not A Chance.\n\n17 Texas sheriffs approved to partner w/ICE\n\nICE chief wants smuggling charges on leaders of sanctuary cities\n\nNew crackdown on 'so-called' sanctuary cities\n\nRaids to target teenaged suspected gang members\n\nArmy Corps starts pre-construction work on border wall\n\nDeportations in LA are up 60% alone\n\n80% jump in illegal targets\n\nIllegal immigration arrests up 40% nationwide\n\nFeds taking over Texas National Guard mission along border\n\nBorder Patrol Morale at Highest Level\n\nTrump Admin Preparing Texas Wildlife Refuge for First Border Wall Segment\n\nChristian refugees admitted now outnumber Muslim refugees admitted\n\nBill allocates $1.6 billion for Trump's border wall\n\nMemo reveals ICE officers have free rein\n\nICE crackdown scaring some families back to Mexico\n\nJune\nNo Sanctuary For Criminals Act - deny federal grants to sanctuary cities - Passed House and Senate\n\nKate's Law - harsher penalties for previously deported criminals - Passed House and Senate\n\nNumber of refugees taken in is down 50%\n\nRescinded DAPA\n\nMay\nWorkers install final panel in upgrade of border fence\n\nUS agency raids Indian IT firms\n\nApril\nRaids turn Oregon city into ghost town\n\nEnding \"catch and release\" immigration policy\n\nMarch\nSilicon Valley Staffing Firm Charged in H1B Fraud\n\nUnshackling ICE - told that they can take action against ALL illegal immigrants - increasing presence in sanctuary cities",
"Odd how Trump is not denying and multiple people from both R and Do are confirming. But hey, I'm sure even with multiple confirmations and no denials, you'll figure out how to spin that.\n",
" Said from a fly over state",
"Because how can the left expect anyone to take their (loud, constant) insistence of moral superiority seriously if they act exactly like they claim their nemesis does?",
"We've got puritans on the right AND the left.\n\nIt's really fascinating to watch. It's especially interesting how each side mirrors the other. I think the most interesting part is how both sides view whites as superior to other races, but go about making the claim in different ways.\n\nThe right views minorities as wild animals, whereas the left treats them more like animals in zoos or pets to show off. The right will claim that whites are superior, therefore all other races should be removed from their countries. The left believes it is their duty as whites to help those \"poor, defenseless, minorities\".(AKA: The White Man's Burden)\n\nThey believe the same things, either simply worded differently, or they arrive at different conclusions.\n",
"Laughable, considering T_D is literally the biggest \"safe space\" reddit has.",
"Oh no! Not a child \"calling him out\"! How horrible!!",
"I haven't been shafted by the Clintons though. ",
"He's not telling the truth if you think he said shithole",
"I’m not your shithole, buddy",
"Respect is earned, not given.",
"That’s great. You have the stage man. Not a very good analogy at all, but an analogy indeed. I despise department store cards. I don’t despise lots of cash not coming out of my paycheck, and going to some other person who decides not to work. I’m asking you what exactly is the so called lower class getting screwed on? Don’t be vague like most liberals, give a concise direct answer please. Doubling the standard deduction? Nope that sounds pretty sweet too. Lowering the tax brackets... hmm. OR are you talking about all the lame credits that people get for nothing when they don’t even pay into the system? ",
"The comma is off the building. It probably says, \"Shithole, President\"\n\nTo which I'm sure he'd agree. ",
"Yep. Just an insane amount of hatred at this point. Any political sub you go to, people are literally calling for the deaths and imprisonment of their opposition. People need to calm the fuck down and work on how we can accomplish goals together and figure out what compromises we can make to get everyone on board. Instead it's, \"All Republicans/Democrats should be taken into the middle of times square and executed.\"\n\nDamn sickening spending 2 minutes in the comments sections of /r/politics",
"The fact that your post history is full of stuff from the donald and nothing else suggest that you’re merely a troll and don’t have any real knowledge in finance or any other things you mentioned in your post. ",
"On the other side, countless lab experiments have shown that most animals can learn that if you push the button food comes out. From there it's not far to \"if I say what they tell me not to say everyone talks about it all day.\"",
"If they don't make it about race, they can't claim the President is a racist.",
"All I’ve been getting are PMs saying I’m a naive fool etc etc and can’t list anything. So here goes:\n\nPresident Donald Trump's Accomplishment List:\nTrump Government\n\nJanuary\nTrump signs bipartisan bill to combat synthetic opioids\n\nTrump Shrinks Federal Bureaucracy -16000\n\nPresident Trump set a record for lifetime appointed judges in 2017\n\nTrump Signed 96 Laws In 2017\n\nDecember\nTrump Administration Set to Roll Back $900 Million in Obama-Era Offshore Drilling Regulations\n\nU.S. Imposes Sanctions on 52 People and Entities for Abuse and Corruption\n\nIndividual Mandate of Obamacare REPEALED\n\nSenate Passes Historic Sweeping Tax Reform\n\nClimate Change REMOVED from 'Threat List'\n\nTrump Admin is a Deregulation Machine: Eliminating 22:1\n\nTrump signs $700 billion defense bill, gives troops largest pay raise in 7 years\n\nNew Space Policy Directive Calls for Human Expansion Across Solar System\n\nTrump Declares Jerusalem the Capital of Israel\n\nSenate Passes Sweeping Tax Reform - 20% Corporate rate - Largest in 31 Years.\n\nU.S. pulls out of UN's Global Compact on Migration\n\nNovember\nTrump Shuts Down CIA funding of Syrian Rebels\n\nHouse Passes Tax Bill in Major Step Toward Overhaul\n\nOctober\nSenate Passes Budget Resolution Clearing the Way to pass Tax Reform with a Simple Majority\n\nTrump's HHS defines life as beginning at conception\n\nIran Deal: DECERTIFIED\n\nTrump: 'We are stopping cold the attacks on Judeo-Christian values'\n\nTrump administration abandons the Obama-era clean power plan aimed at reducing global warming\n\nSchool Choice tops the list of Priorities U.S. Education Department Grants\n\nTrump Signs Healthcare Order, Expands Choice and Access through associations\n\nUS and Israel withdraw from UNESCO citing \"anti-Israel bias\"\n\nTrump has written 46 Executive Orders\n\nSeptember\nExecutive order enabling Treasury Deparment to target companies doing business with North Korea\n\nAugust\nTrump has signed 53 bills into law\n\nEnding many of Obama's useless Executive Orders\n\nTrump Signs Order Rolling Back Environmental Rules on Infrastructure\n\n11,000 government jobs slashed under Trump - downsizing government\n\nUN Security Council unanimously imposed new sanctions on North Korea\n\nSenate confirms 65 Trump nominees for various positions\n\nU.S. Small Business Administration opens assistance center\n\nJuly\n800 Obama regulations cut - Saved over $200 billion\n\nEPA's Pruitt moves to roll back over 30 environmental regulations in record time\n\nCut the White House budget - Saved taxpayers $22 million\n\nJune\nHaley Tells Congress US Assuming More Assertive Role at UN\n\nTrump’s EPA To Repeal Obama’s ‘Waters Of The US’ Rule\n\nEliminated 1200 man hours of wasteful paperwork requirements including Y2K preparedness\n\nPresident Trump Announces “Massive Permit Reform\" Push\n\nTrump Lays Out Plan to Privatize Air Traffic Control System\n\nStatement by President Trump on the Paris Climate Accord\n\nMay\nTreasury to call for rolling back banking regulations\n\nTrump orders a Voter Fraud Commission to investigate 2016 election\n\nFired corrupt and incompetent FBI Director James Comey\n\nHHS to Rescind Birth Control Mandate in Obamacare\n\nApril\nAppointed conservative Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court\n\nBen Carson Finds $500 Billion (Billion!) In Errors during Audit of Obama HUD\n\nMarch\nPresident Trump's executive order will undo Obama's Clean Power Plan rule\n\nU.S. Will have Free but Fair and Balanced Trade: Mnuchin\n\nExecutive order to reduce operating costs of the Federal Government\n\nFired all 46 attorney generals hired by Obama\n\nFebruary\nPurging the State Department of Obama loyalists\n\nJanuary\nFixing lobbying laws - 5 year lobbying ban on White House officials\n\nPut a regulatory freeze on all federal agencies\n\nCutting regulations in government agencies (add 1, take out 2)\n\n45th PRESIDENT of the United States of America, DONALD J. TRUMP\n\nTrump Homeland Security\n\nJanuary\nICE is Recruiting Veterans to Combat Child Trafficking\n\nDecember\nEnd of Year Report: Deportations up 40% - Historically Low Crossings\n\nOctober\nDHS: Announces New Procedures for Refugee Admissions\n\nDeportations From the Interior up 34%\n\nDACA Renewals Drop 21%\n\n30-foot concrete slab prototypes erected along border\n\nSeptember\nICE has conducted a MASSIVE raid on sanctuary cities this week - 498 illegal immigrants arrested\n\nTrump has updated his travel ban, includes these 8 countries - Chad, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, Yemen, Somalia - NO EXPIRATION DATE\n\nCrossing The Border Illegally Is Harder Than It’s Been In 50 Years\n\nWithholding Federal Funds from Sanctuary Cities - Must allow ICE access to jails and notify befor release\n\n$1.6 billion down payment to start building the wall\n\nTrump cuts off visas for countries that refuse deported immigrants\n\nRescinded DACA\n\nAugust\nExtreme Vetting' for some green cards\n\nDeportation orders up 31% nationwide under Trump\n\nDeportation Orders Up 30%\n\nMiami has removed its \"sanctuary\" status\n\nICE raids targeting families net 650 arrests\n\nJuly\nDenver To ICE: Stop Arresting Illegal Immigrants At Courthouse. ICE To Denver: Not A Chance.\n\n17 Texas sheriffs approved to partner w/ICE\n\nICE chief wants smuggling charges on leaders of sanctuary cities\n\nNew crackdown on 'so-called' sanctuary cities\n\nRaids to target teenaged suspected gang members\n\nArmy Corps starts pre-construction work on border wall\n\nDeportations in LA are up 60% alone\n\n80% jump in illegal targets\n\nIllegal immigration arrests up 40% nationwide\n\nFeds taking over Texas National Guard mission along border\n\nBorder Patrol Morale at Highest Level\n\nTrump Admin Preparing Texas Wildlife Refuge for First Border Wall Segment\n\nChristian refugees admitted now outnumber Muslim refugees admitted\n\nBill allocates $1.6 billion for Trump's border wall\n\nMemo reveals ICE officers have free rein\n\nICE crackdown scaring some families back to Mexico\n\nJune\nNo Sanctuary For Criminals Act - deny federal grants to sanctuary cities - Passed House and Senate\n\nKate's Law - harsher penalties for previously deported criminals - Passed House and Senate\n\nNumber of refugees taken in is down 50%\n\nRescinded DAPA\n\nMay\nWorkers install final panel in upgrade of border fence\n\nUS agency raids Indian IT firms\n\nApril\nRaids turn Oregon city into ghost town\n\nEnding \"catch and release\" immigration policy\n\nMarch\nSilicon Valley Staffing Firm Charged in H1B Fraud\n\nUnshackling ICE - told that they can take action against ALL illegal immigrants - increasing presence in sanctuary cities",
"The t_d brigading is out in force this morning",
"Don and his supporters already made us look like idiots to the rest of the world. ",
"Reading tables is hard work yo",
"http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/albert-einstein-copypasta?full=1\n\nTldr it's an old copypasta where the punch line is something like \"The name of that kid? Albert Einstein.\" ",
"Which is worse calling a nation a shithole or starting an unconstitutional war, overthrowing the leader, and destabilizing a nation. Cause the left is completely hysterical over one and was virtually silent and complacent in the other. This is nothing but pure partisan virtue signaling. ",
"St. Lahey came!",
"I call them Tenderloins. ",
"Just look at reddit! Everyone on reddit *hates* him! \n\nWhat a terrible fucking argument.",
"I mean it's funny and all but this is the same town that let an illegal immigrant walk after he shot and killed a girl. Fuck San Fran. ",
"Said from a fly over state",
"Boris? ",
"Well. I think most, if not all, years start in the first half of January. ",
"Stay classy America...",
"None of this backs your position that “trump has accomplished more in one year than any of his predecessors.” You’ve taken moving the goalposts to a whole new level. ",
"Those cities are booming economically and producing much of our country’s technology.\n\nThank goodness those cities exist, lest we rely on Republican states like Alabama, Kentucky, Louisiana, West Virginia, Mississippi, etc to lead the way. We’d be nowhere near as powerful a country and a leader in innovation. ",
"Nah, that's only if they like you - otherwise you're a mate.",
"Good bye and good riddance. ",
"It’s not just the Aussies. Everyone calls him a cunt. ",
"Uhh, right, that's obviously what I meant by new. All the same ones are still taken away, but they didn't take anymore this time",
"So you want the uneducated foreigners to come work for you on a farm for minimum wage because americans are too good for it... cotton by any chance?",
"To be a master he would need more than 1 trick, but he doesn't really. He has one or 2 tricks (play golf or say something out there) and the media just soaks it up. If the media just reported facts and let us make up our minds we would a) see how incompetent he is and b) see all the crummy to downright infringing policies trying to be passed through. He knows how to play this media today, and they never change - to compare if someone is playing basketball against a decent player who always does the same move and I learn how to stop that one move it doesn't make me a pro, just means the other guy needs to learn a new move.",
"You're stupid. Your assumptions make you look stupid and makes your arguments worthless. Stop that. You make liberals look bad.",
"I can and will offer evidence of US aid when I have the time. Id love to engage in a debate with you! I'm just at work right now and typed that out before my shift started. I didn't touch on the race aspect because I wanted to talk more about our foreign policy/aid. It is racist, and that's pretty clear. \n\nEdit: and in regards to the downvote comment I made, most of the time (I find) if you offer your opinion that doesn't aline with the general consensus of a post, you generally receive negative feedback. Although you responded with respect and I appreciate that!",
"The conservatives was losing their shit when Obama used the word nigger in a discussion about racism, calling it unpresidential. Where are they now?",
"NSFW",
"Only in your mind.",
"This is how you know the brainwashing is working folks.",
"In my eyes at least, it just makes us look worse than the President already makes us look. It feels like we’re stooping to his level. Just because someone is acting like a child doesn’t mean we also should.",
"/u/sysadminale",
"Thank goodness san diego has colonies of homeless people living under the freeways in the city, miles from the very rich coronado island and la jolla area who are full of rich democrats preaching about universal basic income and everything, from their homes worth millions of dollars",
"Lol. Why are you in such denial? Did you look at the list? ",
"Shitcunt",
"Oh that makes sense. They are and aren't unrelated. San Francisco did refuse to prosecute drug addicts and passed ordinances that allow for people to sleep anywhere. They basically put up a big sign saying \"homeless junkies come here\" I would say that's more to do with the homelessness than the housing prices. Basically the only people trying to move to San Francisco are people making 100k or more a year, or homeless people looking for a safe place to do their homeless bullshit without consequence. After that you have the people who try and make it their and can't meet the pricing demands and become homeless. \n\n",
"You do realize that many states give their homeless a option of either taking a bus ticket to SF or being arrested on bullshit charges, right? At least SF and CA don't treat homelessness as a crime. ",
"Sounds good, talk later!",
"The fuck? Oakland is not that bad. I wonder if those who upvoted you have actually been to Oakland. Oakland's an industrial city that is becoming gentrified due to the rise of tech industries. I suggest you actually come visit. ",
"Shit cunt",
"K. ",
"I just feel like stuff like this isn't going to help anyone, regardless of what side you are on. Let Trump burn himself by saying stuff like that without stuff like this to go on Fox news titled \"Crazy Liberal Grafitti\" or something",
"Build a thousand bridges and suck one sick. Nobody will call you a bridge builder.",
"Actually it was a US Senator (not an aid) that was in the meeting and made the claim, and he's still making it. If you had actually read anything at all about it, you'd know this.",
"It seems the dems thought they could get a daca deal without committing to building the wall. Now that trump has refused that proposal it’s seems dems are left with no leverage and have resorted to crying racism I guess in hopes to guilt pubs/trump to give them what they want..",
"So brave. ",
" Said from a fly over state",
"Very eloquently said. ",
"I think that focusing on the shit hole comment distracts from the real issue is the diversity lottery really needed? And that's a shame, because that's a great debate to be had.",
"Yes i did. Have you looked at the list of other presidents first year accomplishments? You can post 10,000 words, but if it doesn’t back the claim you’re making then what’s the point?",
"Ra[sic]t",
"Then don't confirm it ;-)",
"Woah! How did you come up with that one?",
"You can't pretend the 2018 version of a state looks the same as a 2016 version of one, especially if more bad candidates are pushed.",
"Obama caused the recession. I voted for him twice because of promises he failed to deliver on. He sold us out. He used tax money to prop up rich friends. He promised a renewable energy revolution. Where is that? He promised keystone xl would never be built. All he did was delay it. The Paris accord was an incredibly bad deal for Americans- just another way to whore us out to foreign interests. I don't like everything about Trump. Hell, there's not much I do like about him. But he does put America first and that's clear, regardless of his reckless environmental policy. And I'm almost ok with that. At least he's honest. At least - there's no weird hidden agenda. He's not smart enough for that. His thought process is on Twitter for everyone to see. \n\nSeriously, if the worst thing we have to worry about is him calling Haiti a shit hole, (it most certainly is and has nothing to do with race - that said I worked with Haitians in a warehouse in sofla, and experienced the racism they harbor for white people first hand) then I'm ok with that. At least bring legitimate concerns to the table and not this high school drama bullshit.",
"“Libtard” states have higher standards of living and produce much of our country’s technology. Most Republican states are poorer and less educated — and are welfare states to boot (they take in more federal dollars than they contribute). Mississippi, West Virginia, Arkansas, Alabama, Kentucky, Kansas, South Carolina, Missouri, Louisiana, etc.\n\nKeep on hating those libtard states and using uneducated rhetoric and name-calling as you sit on the Internet trolling. Those libtard states will lead our economy and seek higher education and technological advancement.",
"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I39dmsWKpw ",
"Yes because Donald didn't and had no say in it. He was born Donald Trump ",
"until someone claims they damaged their eyes and sues the protestors",
"Said from a gas station attend in a fly over state. ",
"Thanks Gregory. ",
"I’m just glad that we, as a society, haven’t stooped to childish acts.",
"Can confirm, am on mobile.",
"The shit hole, one block south of the white swallow. ",
"No that's his plan for America",
"Paul Ryan is just trying his best to keep his head above water so that people will still tolerate him once he returns as a lobbyist. He's not going to do anything risky or anything that might indicate he still has multiple vertebrae. ",
"\n>You mean the Obama people that were left over and are being removed. False again. \n\nNope, I am talking about Trump's own people. Let's see; Spicer, Bannon, Papadopoulos, Flynn, Scaramucci, Preibus, Omarosa. Just off the top of my head.\n\n>> and even the fucking Pope\n>\n>is that suppose to appeal to me like I care what he is supposed to think?\n\nWell yeah, most sane people do pay attention when a major leader dedicated to kindness and charity condemns the leader of a nation.\n\n>How does it feel being so wrong?\n\nI wouldn't know. How does it?\n\n",
"Oh but if Hillary was president this would be sexist. If it was Obama it would be racist. But since he's white who cares right? ",
"The usa seems one crazy disjointed place at the mo",
"The juvenile way our society currently interacts with one another has created the ecosystem for President Trump to act childish. Our President is a reflection of our people. So yes, our leaders should be held to a higher standard and the people should want to uphold that standard themselves.\n\nAlso, I’ll grant you there’s no god. ",
" So is the south",
"Sure doesn't seem like it. ",
"Imagine he was using his whole ass...",
"SF has problems like any other city. Most San Franciscans would agree, but it's also enjoyable as fuck to live here. It's a walking city with a rich culture of industries, food, sports, nature, art, lifestyle, politics, music. Yes, it sucks that some places can smell like piss, but \"people get along in SF more than anywhere in the country.\" - Chappelle",
"Savage",
"Because the prosecution got greedy and tried to charge him with 1st degree — so then they had to prove the man INTENTIONALLY tried to kill that poor woman. Obviously that wasn’t the killer’s goal, regardless of what happened. So no, he was not convicted of 1st degree murder. He will, however, still serve up to 20 years for possession of a firearm.\n\nNot everything is black and white. ",
"See you at the Folsom street parade!",
"It's time for San Fransisco to get designated .... ....",
"r/polticalpics",
"> testicles\n\nFTFY",
"Liberal cities are booming economically and producing much of our country’s technology. They are centers of higher education and research. \n\nShould we eradicate all our liberal urban areas to please you’re hate of those “goddamn libruls” and become a country solely of Republican states riddled with poverty and low education achievement like Alabama, Mississippi, West Virginia, Kentucky, Louisiana, South Carolina, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, etc.?",
"Freedom of speech covers both. The govt can’t stop you from doing either. Now, the owner of said building or supermarket can tell you to stop though.",
"we dont have alt right so yeah I am leaning right now as right party in my country is pro growth pro reforms. ",
"[You sure?](https://i.imgur.com/JfevQzQ.jpg)",
"Please tell me more that all Democrats are Hillary supporters. Bernie would have won.",
"\"Age of consent laws are a social construct.\" -- Bernie Sanders",
"Seems Dems are mad their Russia nothing burger didn't work. Anonymous sources are very conveniently in line with their agenda.",
"More of a cowardice to refuse to accept that a place in where babies are raped because they can apparently cure aids is objectively a bad place to live e.g a shithole just to push your \"all culturez are bad n equal!!!1\" agenda. ",
"Simple minds mate",
"I'm the child of an immigrant and i say we have an immigration problem. I am okay with immigration, just not illegal immigration. Just look at what happened a couple months ago when an illegal immigrant that had been deported 7 times and was as known criminal shot a person with a gun that he stole from the police.\nAt the very least California isn't as bad as swenden, where they've taken in so many refugees that they don't have housing for them. ",
"I lived in negros for a year & during his election. My impression is that the majority of people liked him and very much wanted him to be hard on drugs and corruption. Now, they still support him, but are more worried he is going to turn into another Marcos. ",
"*Slow clap*",
"I agree he shouldn’t call people shit-holes. But let’s raise the bar vs sink to that level. The Office of the President deserves respect despite your individual feelings for the man who holds that office. ",
"DM me so I don't forget please! Looking forward to it!",
"When was the last time you’ve been to Oakland? Have you ever been? Or are you just spouting what you’ve been told about a place?",
"Shout-out stokes croft",
"Literally ",
"How's the weather in Moscow today, comrade?",
"Fake news. ",
" Lol where is this garden of Eden you moved to? ",
"I’m not your shithole, covfefe",
"It'll burn out in 3 days...",
"Just remember: According to Trump it's defined as \"countries where colored people come from\".",
"Isn't the countries he mentioned shitholes? Like why would the people coming from those countries leave if it wasn't ?",
"The only people they’re disengaging is the people they want voting. The other side sees this and gets MORE fueled to go out and make their voices heard.\n\nChildish shit like this has the exact opposite effect they think it has. Idiots.",
"Factually speaking he has a very \"unique\" set of lips...",
"Y'all just keep crying over bullshit that doesn't matter and the rest of us will continue to make money in the best economy in recent memory. Including more money and research in medical/ technological advances. Buncha little bitches lol. ",
"If Hillary or Obama said it (and they never would be stupid enough to, unlike 45) then they could be called out on it. Also, \"shithole\" is not a sexist or racist term.\n\nTry harder.",
"Source?",
"Lmao, dude, here’s some advice.\n\nIf you’re gonna call bullshit, provide evidence against that bullshit. Just calling bullshit without anything backing it up just makes you look like an idiot. \n\nYou do a quick internet search and actually pay attention to what you’re reading and you’ll learn that he’s a terrible president.\n\nJust because a source doesn’t agree with your opinions it doesn’t mean that it’s false. Calling everything “fake news” is just completely imbecilic. You need to take a good hard look at the news because I can guarantee that you are 100% wrong. \n\nWhile I have actually done research and evaluated both sides, all you have done is just called legit opinions bullshit because they hurt your feelings. ",
"We have a childish president, so why not?",
"If you think that homeless people have more power over San Francisco politics than the rich landowners who puppet string the ridiculously expensive rent/mortgages, then you are delusional.",
"I award you no points. Dude I used to live there, and I'm just telling you facts. Your argument about plastic bags is just plain stupid, so find another route.\n\nYou're missing the point about a city's infastructure. You really think all of the homeless folks shitting in the street are former residents that just couldn't afford the rent anymore? They're from other states/cities, sent or migrated in, where SF doesn't have the room or resources to accommodate. Simple as that.",
"Got sources that said he did?",
"I read the story pretty thoroughly and I dont think there's a single detail you got right. ",
"Oh do explain",
"Nailed it.",
"I don't live there I just thought you legit didn't get what he was implying. A lot of that could be protected land or zoned poorly, that was a pretty big problem where I grew up. ",
"Libtards guide to argument in 2018- \"It's the damn Russians\". 7 More years MAGA, Bitch.",
"Trump is the one who flies into a tantrum anytime anyone dares criticize him or makes a joke.",
"I wish Cali would succeed ... that state is a plethora of crazy......",
"Meh... last time I visited SF... I was stepping over human excrement. SF... literal shithole?",
". . because a reddit account can only be created once for one person and that account completely describes a persons life, interests, career, professional qualifications, education etc etc?\n\nStill no facts in your rebuttal? \"You post in T_D so you **must** be a troll, hahaha . . phew, i thought all your facts were valid until this point\". . . . Jesus Christ!",
"African immigrants to the U.S. are some of the most highly educated people in our country. Nigerian Americans as a whole are very highly educated. Those living in poverty in Africa typically don't have the means to immigrate here.\n\nTrump said we shouldn’t take any immigrants from “shithole African countries” and instead take in Norwegian people.\n\nLet’s be honest, it’s about race . To Trump, Norwegian white immigrants are “good”, black African immigrants are “bad” (despite as I mentioned before, many African immigrants would make excellent contributions to our society with their higher levels of education)",
"Do they not realize they make themself look like a shithole? Or the US is what this shot says",
"Just so you know, SF immediately changed its policy on who they let out after this incident. ",
" Have you ever thought about why three are so many homeless there? Unlike fly over states, in SF simply being homeless isn't a crime. Other states give bus tickets to homeless to SF. What is SF to do? Arrest them all? \n\nYou speak as if the homeless are all SF natives. Which makes you seem incredibly ignorant and incapable of rational thought. ",
"But it is the job of the head of the state to take care of his wording and avoid statements that brand a country in a bad way.\n\nThis is like Angela Merkel calling the U.S. a retard country because people voted Trump. She doesn't.",
"I picked a hell of a time to quit sniffing glue.",
"It's honestly not that bad. News just likes drama. Trump isn't saying things any other president hasn't said in private. Trump just sucks at keeping it in private. ",
"You can definitely get a citation/ticket for spoken vulgarities in public. The difference between auditory profanity and visual profanity is that you can’t avoid hearing something in your proximity. Visual profanity is protected in most cases (in public).",
"Lol, someone needs to do their research on what caused the recession. I'm sure there's some YouTube videos titled housing bubble for dummies out there somewhere. ",
"They are bigly cromulent.",
"For a federal building this is shockingly inappropriate regardless of what anyone says - but I’m not surprised because of its location.",
"Does anyone stop to check the statistics fam?\n\n-------------------------------------------------\n\nPopulation: 10,461,000\n\n59% of the population lives on less than US$2 per day\n\nGross National Income per capita is $1730. The average for Caribbean/Latin American developing countries is $14,098.\n\n50 percent of children do not attend school.\n\nApproximately 30% of children attending primary school will not make it to third grade; 60% will abandon school before sixth grade.\n\nAlmost 80 percent of teachers have not received any pre-service training.\n\n90% of primary schools are non-public and managed by communities, religious organizations or NGOs.\n\nHaiti’s literacy rate is 61% – 64% for males and 57% for females. The average literacy rate for Latin American and Caribbean developing countries is 92%.\n\nShithole (noun): an extremely dirty, shabby, or otherwise unpleasant place.\n\nHaiti seems like a very unpleasant place. It has nothing to do with skin color. It has everything to do with the statistics fam. If Trump said this, he said this in private. Sure, there are more appropriate words, but the statement wasn't inaccurate.\n\n\"Shithole\" President, is grammatically incorrect. It is being used as an adjective in this statement, and it is always a noun.\n\nI know you all hate facts, but skrrppp pop pop.\n\nhttps://haitipartners.org/haiti-statistics/",
"So your argument here is that since it slowed down after Bush fucked the economy, and obama didn’t immediately raise it back to 4% growth that its only trump that could’ve raised it? Jesus get a grip man. Your arguments are gonna need a little thinking on your part and not just “oh this headline looks like it fits my narrative” ",
"\"Trump started it\"... please... how old are you?",
" Look at those approval ratings! Truly the greatest! \n\n/s",
"I was hoping for this",
"Whoa... wut?\n\nSource?",
"I agree that the office deserves respect, unfortunately the man currently holding that position is crapping all over it.",
"Actually you can... You will not get in any legal trouble... It's just frowned upon by the business owners and you would probably be asked to leave... It's what you do from that point that can potentially become an issue\n\n",
"Awesome post let's see the source...",
"Did I say it was?",
"Plus, just because a president is impeached doesn’t mean he stops being president. Nixon resigned after he was impeached but Clinton did not. ",
"California, huh?\n\nMakes sense.",
"And here I thought reading REDDIT was \"Research\".",
"https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-president-maryland-based-transportation-company-indicted-11-counts-related-foreign\n",
"Why not go with something that has no fees and transfers instantly? ",
">no 2nd amendment\n\nGotta love Trumpette delusions. The 2nd amendment applies everywhere, you dolt.\n\nAlso, no one was \"protecting\" the illegal. They overcharged him in court and didn't have the evidence to support the charges. The jury had no choice but to acquit. He didn't intend to kill anyone unless he's some genius who can account for bullet ricochet trajectories. ",
"Apparently a trillion dollars over 10 years is a MASSIVE HOLE IN THE DEFICIT. Most Americans now have more money in their pockets. Stop saying this country is worse off because your candidate lost. The Paris Climate Agreement was complete shit and you have no evidence that net neutrality would not have been repealed under Hillary because the momentum to repeal it started under the last Administration. The “Muslim ban” (its not) targeted many of the same countries the last administration had pushed to make more difficult to enter the US. Plus it’s not a ban at all its differed measures to ensure proper screening before entry (how awful!).\n\nStop repeating your tiring Daily Show tirades. Nobody is buying them anymore.",
"If that happened in the US, some moralistic asshole would burn the building down to get rid of it.",
"That’s cause homeless people move there from all over the country due to the environment as well as the subsidized services. \n\nHard problem to solve when the rest of the country is dumping their “undesirables” on you. ",
"^ two t_d tards literally circle jerking",
"Am I sure that it was a senator and not a aid? Yes, I am quite sure.",
"Better than the shithole red states with rednecks and welfare queens who drag this whole country down.",
"The shithole thing really struck a nerve : it must hurt to admit that America is awesome and if we continue to allow immigration to supply the dems with votes America will become like every other liberal city like Detroit or socialist country like Venezuela \n\nALL COMPLETE SHITHOLES\n\nWE SRE NOT THE WORLDS GARBAGE DUMP AND WE SHOULD ONLY ALLOW IMMIGRANTS IN WE REALLY NEED \n\n\nMAGA \n\n\nSTOP IMPORTING AND START IMPORTING THE IMMIGRANTS THAT CREATE OR BRING JOBS OR SOME SKILL SO THEY DONT GO N WELFARE FROM DAY ONE \n\nWE ALL KNOW DEMS ARE IMPORTING 3rd workders Who only need and want welfare \n\n\nSO SAD \n\n\nMAGA ",
"Yes, some one should. But probably not the disillusioned millenial adult who lost a house and was screwed over by ACA premiums. ",
"Hypocrites.",
"That’s a strong font. ",
"Oh yeah? What year did people not downvote opinions they disagreed with?",
"Idk why but I’m getting agressive vibes of your laughter",
"Calling all of Africa plus Haiti shitholes is a bit different from calling an ongoing civil war a shitshow.",
"Honestly, in my experience that hasn't been quite the case. I'd *love* to talk politics and discuss with my family. It's those in my family on the other end of the political spectrum who have turtled up.",
"> through every single horrible act\n\nHey, remember when Howard Dean's political career was ended because he yelled a little bit once?",
"You left out the part where it was done by an illegal immigrant who has been deported several times and given sanctuary by the city.",
"Wasn't Duterte doing all this way before Trump though? It seems like I've been reading about him wrangling up drug users and killing them for a couple of years now. Correct me if I'm wrong of course.",
"That's actually a solid, interesting question. I'm curious as well. My gut tells me they would find admitting it better, but who knows extremists.",
"I'm not sure how you think weakening our global influence and rallying the rest of the world against us in trade is going to end well. Sure, the market is up and trump supporters seem to think a few extra dollars on their paycheck temporarily is enough to buy them off but there's no way this works out well long term. Everything trump has proposed or supported is designed to funnel money to the top. When the tariffs and any of his other isolationist plans kick in, there is no other outcome than the cost of living for the average american skyrocketing. I hope you are taking profits on those stock gains like I am because we'll need them just to maintain our current lifestyles.",
"I would say not soft, but tried to manipulate then for other purposes. Thats my best explanation for the libya situation, isis, and shipping iran all that cash. He wanted to have a radical presence to pressure other regional powers, and maybe keep folks fearful at home so they wouldnt feel too disabused by the spying revelations.",
"That’s awfully racist. ",
"Pretty much every metropolitan area has that. ",
"It's pronounced \"shi-theed\"",
"If done from off their property what law would private property be able to use to stop you if any? ",
"If he hit a sea lion he def would have gone to jail",
"Do you think I give two shits?\n\nIt's not racist to call a shithole country a shithole. You think it'd be ok to call it a shithole if they're predominately white?",
"💩👍🏿",
"Your UserName fits you. Wrong again. ",
"What was his exact quote on Twitter?",
"https://lawstreetmedia.com/crime-america-2015-top-10-dangerous-cities-200000-2/\n\nPass.\n",
"Facts!",
"That’s your opinion. I personally think conservative places like Alabama, Kentucky, West Virginia, Mississippi, etc are crazy by worrying more about making it easier to own guns and getting rid of those “pesky Mexicans” than addressing their high poverty, lower health standards, and low education rates. ",
"I think it would be fun experiment to just have the media do a full embargo on him. No matter what he does, no Trump related anything for a month. If something particularly important happens mention that \"The President\" did something, but don't name him or show any clips or pictures. What would that do to his oh-so-frail ego? \n\n\nMy main fear with this plan is that he would start escalating his crazy until everyone is forced to pay attention to him. He'd probably start nuking countries at random until his ugly mug was on TV again. ",
"Does it make Trump mad? I’ve never heard of him reacting to it.",
"If only I knew how the left would act with Trump, I wouldn’t have been so calm and reserved with that loser Muslim that was president before him. What goes around comes around and next time the left has no high ground to stand on.",
"It also hasn’t even been a year since the president took office, so this is the proverbial cherry on top for any one-years retrospectives that might crop up over the next few weeks.",
"L.",
"Lowell MA is kicking it oldschool",
"Oh no I'm fully aware they aren't all SF natives. As a matter of fact most aren't. \n\nWhat is San Francisco to do? Idk maybe not pass laws to attract homeless people. Maybe start prosecuting drug offenses? Maybe stop allowing homeless people to sleep on sidewalks like most other places. Just an idea, maybe stop doing exactly what they are doing thats causing the problem. \n\n\n\n",
"His first testimony. Then his story changed.",
"What if freediver isnt an american and is just being silly? Is he freedivers president still, regardless of vote?",
"His bit about getting his second blowjob in his twenties... it was great. I believe it's titled \"this one's not called something 2 dance 2\"",
"> displaced because cost of living has skyrocketed.\n\nThis shines of your ignorance. Do you honestly think that the homeless in SF are mostly people born and raised in SF? They flock to and are given bus tickets from other states.\n\nFly over states either ship their homeless to CA, or arrest them to populate their private prisons. ",
"Sanctimonious. Forthright. Professorial. Misguided. Just like Obama. I bet you sit back and re-read your words and enjoy that self induced shot of serotonin while slapping yourself on your back for thinking you’ve actually said something that matters here. You are a sucker. A rube. A lemming, if you for one second think Trump isn’t playing you and the rest of the hateful attackers on reddit. It’s almost unbelievable that you and your self righteous ilk still underestimate this guy’s ability to control the countries narrative by these red herring, tempest in a teapot, non stories. The guy knows exactly what he’s doing. ",
"Did he kill someone? Yes. It’s murder.",
"are you serious 😂 😂",
"Yes, but “freedom of speech” still allows you to do both. Cursing in public, in and of itself, isn’t illegal. If it’s tied to a threat or incitement it can be. Same as visual. ",
"So he should criticize his grandfather as well as Jon Stewart? Got it. ",
"MA here yee yee",
"Its an easy problem to solve. Start prosecuting drug crimes. Revoke city ordinances that allow homeless people to sleep on sidewalks. Stop doing shit to attract homeless people and drug addicts, and odds are you will not have so many homeless people shitting on the sidewalks and junkies throwing rigs everywhere. \n\nWhat a concept",
"Call the president a name? Check\n\nInvolve President Trump AGAIN for something completely unrelated to him? Check\n\nOkay man, here is your free gold.",
"Somebody here in Houston keeps ruining our famous BE SOMEONE with paint. They’re about to make it a historic landmark to prevent that",
" I've lived in SF and its clear you just visited a small part of SF. \n\nedit: I don't need to be a dick",
"Have any if you ever seriously looked at WHY Haiti is in the shape it's in? From the beginning of it's history to now. Or at least since the slave uprising the country has been made the way it is on purpose. By outsiders. I won't say who. And I also won't respond to anyone that hasn't honestly checked. \n\nPS, fuck a down vote. Before you even get started that shit don't matter to me. Have fun.",
"Doesn't make the statement any less accurate. Trump is an idiot and if it weren't for Kelly, we'd be in a war right now. ",
"Wait until people that actually live in this country wake up.",
"The crazy thing is, had Europeans not been here in the first place, the natives wouldn't have died. ",
"Homelessness is a problem in California, no one will dispute that. The state’s un affordability is a byproduct of its economic success - supply and demand capitalism in full effect. In addition, California's homelessness problem is exacerbated by the fact that it attempts to address the homeless issue. As a result, other states send their homeless to California and/or they migrate their to take advantage of a system that attempts to help the homeless and get them back on their feet.\n\nThe state is currently trying to address affordable housing and spur a home construction boom. Hopefully the situation will improve soon. No state is devoid of problems - liberal or conservative. \n\nHowever, California is far from a “shithole” in comparison to the rest of our country. It’s a wealthier state and is a nationwide leader in technological innovation, academic research, food production, pop culture (cinema, music, fashion, etc) and is one of the healthiest states. Californians in general value healthy living more than other states. ",
"I find them funny",
"It’s absurd. I don’t know what this country is becoming. It’s like everyone is constantly looking to be offended. ",
"Prolly be less of a shithole if the Clinton's didn't F them over. ",
"I'm curious, where are you from, what media sources do you regularly consume (talk radio, TV, internet, print and from where?), and what's your level of education? ",
"What? If you're doing a simple single-image map, it's the easiest thing in the world. Mount a projector or two on your car, park on the street, point the projectors at your surface, literally throw up some color bars, focus the projector, then use VPT, MapMap, or TouchDesigner (all three free and probably overkill for a project this dead simple) to blend and map. Then just launch your media, and make sure you shut it off before the projector kills your car battery.",
"You’re proving his point there ",
"scroll down far enough and the truth starts to ooze out...",
"https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58966965e4b061551b3dff8a\n\nSuddenly, according to Ivana, The Donald storms into the room. He is looking very angry, and he is cursing out loud. “Your fucking doctor has ruined me!” he screams. The Donald flings Ivana down onto the bed. Then he pins back her arms and grabs her by the hair. The part of her head he is grabbing corresponds to the spot on his head where the scalp reduction operation has been done. The Donald starts ripping out Ivana’s hair by the handful, as if he is trying to make her feel the same kind of pain that he is feeling. Ivana starts crying and screaming. The entire bed is being covered with strands of her golden locks. But The Donald is not finished. He rips off her clothes and unzips his pants. Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than sixteen months. Ivana is terrified. This is not lovemaking. This is not romantic sex. It is a violent assault. She later describes what The Donald is doing to her in no uncertain terms. According to the versions she repeats to some of her closest confidantes, “He raped me.” When The Donald finally pulls out, Ivana jumps up from the bed. Then she runs upstairs to her mother’s room. She locks the door and stays there crying for the rest of the night. The next morning Ivana musters up the courage to return to the master bedroom. The Donald is there waiting for her. He leaves no doubt that he knows exactly what he did to her the night before. As she looks in horror at the ripped-out hair scattered all over the bed, he glares at her and asks with menacing casualness: “Does it hurt?\n\n\n",
"On July 1, 2015, 32-year-old Kathryn Steinle, while walking with her father and a friend along Pier 14 in the Embarcadero district of San Francisco, was shot by Jose Inez Garcia Zarate. He initially claimed that he fired at a sea lion, then that he fired accidentally while picking up the gun which he claimed he had found moments before, wrapped in cloth beneath the bench on which he was sitting. The shot ricocheted off the concrete deck of the pier striking the victim in the back. Steinle died two hours later in hospital as a result of her injuries.",
"Stephen Miller, based on his interview with Jake Tapper, he's probably high as a fucking kite in that photo, so don't mind his slack jawed expression.\n\nhttps://youtu.be/vU7v5A5P8BM",
"A dog-cunt!",
"Haha",
"No it doesn't. ",
"Not sure, but if you’re referring to projecting something onto private property I would wager that the property owner would have a legal means to stop it. The property is being used as a medium without consent.",
"Surely the word shithole is just as vulgar as the word ‘shit show’.\n\nSo your argument is not around the word use anymore right? Just the description of Africa being ‘not a very good place to accept migrants from’. Which in a merit based system is correct. ",
"With Reddit’s hard on for trigger control? You’d bet your ass anyone else would have been torn apart. ",
"the difference is that \"loser muslim\" knew how present himself and talk like a human. Every president is a shitbag, Trump is just an unintelligent shitbag. ",
"Lol buddy you have to do some research on past presidents and their actions.\n\nLyndon Johnson used to literally whip his dick out all the time.",
"Fly over states just lock up homeless people to stock their private prisons, then circle jerk about how they have \"fixed\" the homeless problem",
"You dont know that. Maybe his plan was just to become associated with as many as possible, then act in a extremely unsavory manner in order to get people to stop voting for them because of association. Obviously I don't think that was his plan either, but what if it was? That would certainly be interesting.",
"They spelled City wrong on the bottom part",
"7th and Market.",
"If you navigate your life by living through a microscope of others then I feel sorry for you being unable to formulate your own opinions through personal experience. ",
"> Its amazing that people on this site defend this literal piece of shit because Trump talked about him as an example of why we need stricter immigration laws.\n\nNo one's defending him, they're defending the legal system. If you want harsher penalties for felons in possession of a firearm, or illegal immigrants who break the law then say that, but convicting someone of murder when he didn't have intent is a very slippery slope. ",
"> Involve President Trump AGAIN for something completely unrelated to him? Check\n\nWhat? Gonna need an explanation as this is clearly about his \"shithole countries\" comments.",
"I work in SF and it is pretty shitty.",
"Both of you did alright in a debate. Gotta our more\nFacts backed by sources though. (Not disagreeing with any of you please don’t yell at me)",
"I don't mind if a bunch of idiots on the internet think I'm a cunt. It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake.",
"Fun fact: the economy was was already beginning to recover from the 2008 crash when ACA was enacted. So how would something that happened after the crash......cause it? ",
"Propaganda. \n\nThese words were denied by people there. \n\nThey came on the same day he was honouring MLK. \n\nPropaganda. \n\nIf you don't see it, you are stupid. ",
"Liberals: calling a country a shithole is racist!!!\n\nSame liberals: the president is a shithole!!!\n\nSo....liberals are racist based on their logic. ",
"Okay explain to me what I got wrong",
"All cities have shit hole ghettos in or near them",
"can confirm, tracking your IP and device type",
"Source on 80% of taxes going towards illegals please. ",
"You might even say they ensured it was InFocus.",
"Trump has a year of presidency under his belt. He’s one of 6 people in the world who can say that. The other 5 aren’t allowed to be president anymore. I think that makes him supremely qualified at this point.",
"[San Francisco Police Department admits to lying to defendant in Steinle case to get a confession](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiW0d3zjtXYAhVL3GMKHTS9CAoQFghHMAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fabc7news.com%2Fsfpd-admits-to-lying-to-defendant-in-steinle-case-for-confession-%2F2592927%2F&usg=AOvVaw3HxXlN7JPz_pZTDizYPXYy)\n\n>During the interrogation, Garcia Zarate lied about his name. He told police his name was Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez and that he was Colombian, when in fact he was born in Mexico. He also said he was born in 1863. That would have made him about 152 years old.\n\n>Police told Garcia Zarate that the firearm used to kill Steinle had been recovered, when in fact it was still in the waters of the bay. Police also said that there was a DNA match and that five witnesses had seen him at the pier. He was also told that police had GSR -Gunshot residue- samples that implicated him. At that time, none of that was true.\n\n>Shortly after, Garcia Zarate admitted to shooting the gun, police asked for a motive, but Garcia Zarate answered, \"I don't know.\" After a long pause, he told police, in Spanish, \"Ya no le hace,\" which means, \"It doesn't matter anymore.\" When they asked him what was he aiming at, he said, \"Seals.\"\n\n>Police also asked if he remembered the distance between him and Kate Steinle and he said 5-6 feet, even though Steinle was more than 90 feet away.\n\n>When asked where he found the gun, he said in Spanish, \"Na' mas ahi,\" which means \"Right there,\" referring to where he was at the pier. He said he had found the gun wrapped in a t-shirt or cloth and that it felt heavy. He then said it went off when he stepped on it, contradicting himself after saying he had been aiming at some seals.\n\n>\"Why throw the gun in the bay,\" asked interrogators. Garcia Zarate answered, \"I thought it was going to continue shooting. Police then said, \"Tell us the truth, you didn't step on the gun. \"\n\n[Steinle murder trial: Defense witness says police interrogation mistranslated](http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Steinle-murder-trial-Defense-witness-says-police-12346036.php)\n\n>A bilingual San Francisco police officer who acted as a Spanish-language interpreter in the interrogation of the man accused of fatally shooting Kate Steinle on Pier 14 mistranslated key portions of the interview, a Spanish translation expert testified Thursday.\n\n>Though homicide investigators asked Garcia Zarate at various points in the four-hour interrogation if he had pulled the trigger of the gun, Officer Martin Covarrubias never actually said the word for trigger — gatillo — when he translated the questions into Spanish, said Fanny Suarez, an investigator for the city public defender’s office and a former court interpreter.",
"Sure, I'll waste more time for people like you. That's logical.",
"Wait, so when a federal government building projects the word onto itself it is totally cool/worthy of a Reddit dick suck? \n\n\nReddit is a shithole. And it’s people, are shitholes. ",
"Probably lives in a fly over state and is just bitter",
"I'm not your shithole, stable genius.",
"you're missing the [point](https://np.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/7pv08v/a_new_low_the_world_is_furious_at_trump_for_his/dsk8sbi/).",
"TIL. SF is a shithole city. ",
"> starting an unconstitutional war, overthrowing the leader, and destabilizing a nation\n\nYou mean what America has been doing since WW2 like its your job?",
"Says the guy asking someone to provide proof of something from an alternate timeline, are you fucking mental?",
"I see you got the joke.",
"When you look at the comments and voting and compare it to the content that gets to the front page, it's pretty clear that the admins are just on there all day bumping up the shit they like and knocking down the shit they don't like. The entire voting process is an illusion.",
">If you’re gonna call bullshit, provide evidence against that bullshit. Just calling bullshit without anything backing it up just makes you look like an idiot.\n\nReally, you made the claims yet provided no proof, when the burden of proof is on you since you made them. I guess you are an idiot by your own logic, sad. \n\n>You do a quick internet search and actually pay attention to what you’re reading and you’ll learn that he’s a terrible president.\n\nthat's your opinion not fact. GDP is at 4% something Obama said would never happen again. How many companies are giving raises (without the need to raise minimum wage). How tens of millions of Americans are going to make more money each paycheck and get a lot back in taxes. Hmm our corporate tax rate is now on par with the rest of the developed world which allows our companies to be more competitive. Horrible president right?\n\n>Just because a source doesn’t agree with your opinions it doesn’t mean that it’s false. Calling everything “fake news” is just completely imbecilic. You need to take a good hard look at the news because I can guarantee that you are 100% wrong.\n\nHA HA HA, no I'm not. \n\n>While I have actually done research and evaluated both sides\n\nNo you haven't\n\n> all you have done is just called legit opinions bullshit because they hurt your feelings.\n\nKey word there Bren \"opinions\". Opinions aren't facts no matter how hard you might want them to be, which means I can call them bullshit when they are. And, doll my feeling aren't hurt, I'm laughing at you.",
"That there looks like a strawman if I’ve ever seen one!",
"At the very least you have to realize the hole in your argument: you have no idea what would’ve happened under Hillary. Maybe she wouldn’t have pulled out of the Paris bill but she would’ve pushed for a stronger Section 702 agreement this time around. \n\nSure trumps a shitty president, but we have no idea what would’ve happened under Hillary, it’s all just guesses. It’s stupid to continue talking about what could’ve been, because it’s not and it won’t be and to continue living in the passes takes away from the future.\n\nThe past is gone, the futures not here yet, the only time we can live in is the now. ",
"You’re wrong, you think just because someone knows how to present themselves, that makes them intelligent or “presidential”. Being president isn’t a TV show!",
"I don’t understand this often repeated comment when I hear it...\n\nRecently, I was expressing my hate for a particular Trump policy to a co-worker and he asked me the mind blowing question “Is Trump your president“....\n\nI said, “Obviously, I’m an American aren’t I?” He then said “Well then you’re just going to have to accept it”. And then followed up with, “Ok, now was Obama your president?” like somehow I was going to have a different response. When I again let him know my nationality status has never changed, he just shook his head like I was a disappointment to humanity. I instantly regretted the wasted time of having that conversation. ",
"That's hilarious you think Norwegians actually want to immigrate to the US. N",
"Ask me if I would leave my current country to live in the US.\n\n",
"That's why property values are so high, of course no one wants to live there\n\n/s\n\n",
"Perhaps. But these days enough people actually think like that so it's impossible to tell. ",
"yep, \"i think you may want to change the channel, the miss information is pegging the willful ignorance meter \" \n\nDo people like you ever get embarrassed that you were duped into believing and repeating absolute fabricated nonsense. Or are you so dumbed down by biased media that you dont even care about facts and reality any more \n\n\n",
"> Many caught in lies\n\nCitation needed",
"Have you smelled SF? That place is literally a shithole! So much piss and shit on the streets. ",
"I was going to type a detailed rebuttal to your numerous logical flaws, leaps and assumptions, but then I saw your post history and see you're a regular poster on The_Donald, so there's no point. Bye now.",
"am illegal, I can confirm I got a car, thanks California /s really though you’re over exaggerating it man. I grew up without medical or ever going to the doctors and any government help. But I do remember a nice community group when I was 6 that bought me a bike And shoes because my family was poor. Nice people. ",
"Why do you think they migrated? It couldn't possibly have to so with laws such as allowing homeless people to sleep on sidewalks or anywhere they please? Couldn't have to do with them refusing to prosecute drug crimes? San Francisco literally passed the city ordinances and laws that made it a sanctuary for homeless people drug addicts, and criminals. What the fuck did they expect to happen? ",
"Liberal states have higher standards of living. Conservative states are poorer, less educated, and less productive economically. More conservative states than liberal state are welfare states — they contribute less money to the federal government than they receive.\n\nThe majority of our country’s technology is produced in liberal states where there are higher levels of education on average and more institutions of higher learning. Liberal politicians want more government spending on education, most conservative Republican politicians want less ",
"It's just a bummer. The extremists on both sides ironically don't see how they are actually helping the opposition's cause.",
"Hahaha I guess I do too. But in a sad \"oh, it's retarded :(\" sorta way ",
"> Obama would probably have been impeached and convicted in 2011.\n\nFor what? I'm not American.",
"\"according to several people briefed on the meeting.\" Lol These sources from award winning, acclaimed media outlets are getting better and better. ",
"Just because those places are not as nice as the US doesn’t mean our president should be talking about it like a 13 year old. He reflects poorly on our entire country when he acts like a juvenile. ",
">Nope, I am talking about Trump's own people. Let's see; Spicer, Bannon, Papadopoulos, Flynn, Scaramucci, Preibus, Omarosa.\n\nThose people haven't talked bad about Trump, funny how they have all denied the stuff they supposedly said from anonymous sources. \n\n>I wouldn't know. How does it?\n\nyeah you do, you keep getting BTFO.\n\n>Well yeah, most sane people do pay attention when a major leader dedicated to kindness and charity condemns the leader of a nation.\n\nMost people don't care",
"Good, they won't be missed",
"He's not wrong though. Some countries and cities are shitholes, either because of the location itself or because of the people living there. New York and Chicogo are prime examples of this.",
"Doesn’t this violate Obscenity laws?",
"The issue is not that he's swearing, but the lack of decorum which has real diplomatic effects and will waste a lot of such an important person's time that could be better spent. It's like a CEO calling a certain employee an asshole on the spur of the moment. Maybe everyone knows it's true, but it's still unprofessional to cause that drama and have to deal with the fallout for no particular reason and no gain. The time that Trump spends smoothing things over with the African Union, etc, could be spent actually governing. Part of being a good politician and leader is avoiding creating pointless distractions by exercising discretion.\n\nNot to mention calling the entirety of the countries he directed that comment at 'shitholes' is just hugely inaccurate. ",
"We have a winner",
"This is also how they raise gas prices every year. It's $2.65 per gallon, well let's raise it to $2.80 for a couple weeks because something something travel season. A month later, oh hey lucky us gas prices came down to $2.76 and are holding there.",
"That’s no excuse. He was not licensed for the firearm, he was illegally here, and he killed a U.S. citizen. His jail time doesn’t mean shit. \n\nIt’s also a stupid fucking freak accident when an idiot with a gun aims at a harbor seal and kills a person. \n\nThis bullshit was all politics. You can take that bullshit you are spreading somewhere else.",
"nostalgia MVP right here ",
"I remember when my brother and I were little kids. Every so often my parents would curse or say something inappropriate in front of us. As soon as they would do that, it opened up this gate where my brother and I would just repeat it into exhaustion, using the word in every context we could think of. My parent(s) would tell us to knock it off, but or response was, \"You said it!\" See, we were children. We don't do this anymore, right? We're mature. \n\nThis mentality that \"The president said/did it.\" Doesn't make it \"ok\" to do. Nobody ran around having affairs getting blowjobs saying, \"The president did it...\" (though now I'm thinking somebody must have, lol)\n\nTrump used potty words in a private, non-audio/video recorded or televised meeting. Others read the transcript and decided that it should be blasted on every form of media now. The witch-hunt is strong for Trump, but I promise you, past presidents have used worse language in a similar context. \n\nThe reason why people still like Trump (I voted for Johnson) is because he \"loves\" American citizens. Meanwhile, Obama blamed American citizens... at least half of them anyway. Trump blames and attack those in power, like media and other public individuals. Obama attacked swaths of people within groups, mainly all republicans. Idk. You can ignore this paragraph. Just trying to sort things out. ",
"It’s a statistical fact that if you import a large sample of people from shithole countries with low education, low skill, high crime rates that you will be importing a significant amount of low education, low skill, criminals.\n\nJesus christ liberals love their statistics yet conveniently ignore basic facts when it goes against their narrative.",
"> How about instead of trying so hard to influence the national narrative via endless virtue signalling the city try to take care of its severe homeless and garbage problems in its own backyard instead.\n\nBecause that would take effort. Firing up a projector is easy. I'm pretty middle of the road when it comes to politics, but one trend I notice from the left is they prefer to push a lot of agendas that require very little effort or change from themselves and put all the effort and change on others. Say a lot, do very little. Now I'll brace for the \"Trumpet\" attacks and downvotes.",
"Early reddit. Memes, puns, and content that didn't contribute to a discussion got the down votes. \nhttps://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette\n\nIn fact reddiquette explains this.\n",
"OK so what's the problem? Why are you whining about it? ",
"That's why property values are so high right? Funny how a shit hole is a world tourism magnet. \n\nTell me if this garden of Eden where you are from. ",
"It was longer than a few months ago, it wasn't a gun he picked up from the police, and he wasn't deported 7 times. ",
"This ole president...",
"I hope it last!!!!!!",
"Mines?",
"I support him, my girlfriend is brown and yeah, I prefer to keep more of my own money. You sound bitter, perhaps a Bernie supporter who can’t get ahead, so you need everyone to be brought down to your level. I live in a “brown” neighborhood that is mostly Salvadorian. Truth be told, many of them have failed to learn the English language. Many of them are flat-out rude to American people. ",
"Nice point.",
"Hashtag edgy",
"Look at where obama left his political party after office. The weakest it has ever been. He put the country into more debt, but go ahead and act like the left doesn't need to do some self reflection and changing of their political stance. Globalism vs nationalism. Left vs right. There's a reason why the right has the WH, house and senate. It's because they didn't play identity politics.",
"What a stud.",
"Funny, he’s not and you are just from this one comment. ",
"e d g e",
"Yes, that’s correct, I’m against those wars as they are unconstitutional, so when the media is silent about actual illegal wars but flips out over someone saying shithole I’ve gotta think there’s an agenda and it’s silly. ",
"This is something we all should be able to agree on. ",
"Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how you \"boil a frog.\"",
"> And this is why I believe Trump is fairly intelligent, at least when it comes to manipulating people.\n\nare you high? \n\nHe said this behind closed doors in a private meeting, not to a press junket. \n\nDude is a bumbling moron. His handlers throw him out in front of a camera when they need a distraction. He's probably not even aware that he's a giant scapegoat. ",
"It’s just not next to the popular downtown spots in some of them. SF is 46 square miles with almost a million people. ",
"Just like Detroit and chicago right - oh how about Baltimore and Washington DC and Houston -\n\nAll total Democrat shitholes \n\nStop destroying cities and countries and then get back to me \n\n\nMAGA ",
"When is political content going to be banned on this sub? This isn't what this sub is for...",
"Entertaining hypothetical alternative realities is idiotic. For example, had she left her house one second later she would still be alive... maybe. Because the one second difference could mean getting hit by a car instead of shot that day. We cannot know what we do not know.",
"If republicans had treated Obama like this, we would have been called racist and bigoted, etc. HE NEVER EVEN SAID THIS. The news treats him like no other president has ever been treated. You people need to grow up and learn to handle disappointment like adults.",
"A large potion of Trump Supporters have already justified him saying it. Whether he said it or not isn’t really the point. He has said so many ridiculous things, he’s opened up the door to believing anything he might have said. \n\nHe’s a used car salesmen. ",
"No they dont. This is a lie.",
"I love people being mad at the president. Cry babies. True cry babies. #MAGA",
"No they dont.",
"Probably not. The issue isn't that he used the word shitholes, though that is certainly going to be a pain in the ass for American diplomacy. The issue is he was bitching about Latinos and Africans wanting to come to this country and asking why we can't get more white people.",
"The jurors were San Franciscoers. That should tell you a lot about our justice system ",
"I will never forget the day that Trump made the left spend 24 plus hours saying how beautiful and successful the shithole countries are, thus negating their argument that illegals can't go home because their home country is a shithole. ",
"You realize you just did a racism, right? And considering the high asian population in SF, it would be hard to classify it as \"white\".",
"Yeah, down with these tax breaks and jobs! Trump doesn't know anything about politics! What we need is someone firmly entrenched in the political class making the decisions again. ",
"Has no one said this might be photoshopped yet?",
"Ad hominem ",
"Here’s a few. Take your [pick](http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/highlights/profanity) ",
"No he did not.\n\nHe *allegedly* said we should try to attract immigrants from countries *like* Norway. Norway is defined by many things aside from the color of the skin of it’s indigenous people. If you only see a bunch of whiteys from Norway and a bunch of blacks from Haiti then you are the racist.\n\nHave a nice fucking day.",
"Someone needs to find a way to project it on the White House or Trump buildings. ",
"During the campaign Clinton officially supported net neutrality while Trump officially supported scrapping it. We have only their word to go by, so saying we have no idea if it would be scrapped under a Clinton admin is really sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'LalalallaIcanthearyou'\n\nSaying that momentum to repeal it started under the Obama administration is also... Really bizarre? That's like saying momentum to pull out of Iraq really started during the Bush administration because we wouldn't even have been in Iraq without Bush (So he should get credit for any anti-war movement).\n\nThere is a bottom line about Trump versus Clinton at this point.\n\n* Trump Burned an Israeli security source bragging to Russians in the oval office. Clinton would not have done this.\n\n* Trumps travel ban was *very* poorly implemented. Resulting in mass confusions in airports and mass confusion for many many americas immigrants who were out of the country. It's been a year and the whole thing is still tied up in legal battles \n\n* Trump administration has a massive turnover rate. Unlikely that Clinton would have had this many people resign, or be fired for her white house.\n\n* Trumps family nepotism. Ivanka and Kushner have no qualifications for doing the jobs they are currently assigned.\n\n* Trump has destroyed American reputations abroad. There is no way Clinton would have badly embarrassed the US as much as Trump has at this point.\n\n* Mueller's investigations has already resulted in multiple charges against Trump campaigns staff and is now likely to result in recommended charges to Congress against Trump himself. ",
"I prefer April 1st",
"hopefully people remember all the HOMOPHOBES defending homophobic coun tries as not shitholes. \n\nWhat is clearly wrong is that so many people are saying that all these **DISGUSTING COUNTIRES THAT ARE** ***HOMOPHOBIC BY LAW*** are not shitholes.\n\n\nNorwegians believe as a country that LGBT deserve basic human rights, they are good people because of their good values, we should want more people with good values.\n\n lets look at Africa: **More than half, 34 out of 55, are confirmed shithole countries for their criminalization of Homosexual activity, NEARLY ALL, 53 of 55, make it illegal to be Trans by law!!** source : [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Africa)\n\nFor all those interested here is the **list of confirmed shithole countries in Africa**, that have criminalized LGBT individuals...\n\nThey can **fuckkking kkkill you for homosexual activity in these african shithole countries by law:** maruitania, nigeria, Somalia, sudan, Uganda \nsouruce [wapo](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/06/13/here-are-the-10-countries-where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death-2/?utm_term=.866b2713abad)\n\n**Homosexuality gets you fuckkking life imprisonment by law in these African shithole countries:** Uganda, Tanzania, sierra leone\n\n**Homosexual activity gets you fuckkking imprisoned in these African shithole counrties:**\nnorth Africa: algeria, egypt, libya, morrocco, Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, south sudan, sudan, tunisia. \nwestern africa: gambia, ghana, guinea, liberia(ironic huh?), mauritania, nigeria, senegal, sierra leone, togo\ncentral africa: cameroon, chad, burundi, kenya, uganda, tanzania\nhorn of africa: eritrea, ethiopia, somailia, somali land\nindian ocean states: comoros, mauritius,\nsouthern africa: angola, botswana, malawi (WHIPPING THE GAYS TOTES COOL in this paradise!) namibia, swaziland, zambia, zimbabwe\n\nNah totally not \"shitholes\" guys that might hurt the feelings of the homophobic opressors and their homophobic supporters amirite? as a matter of fact, if we are going to call something terrible and hateful it is Trumps use of the word shithole, and not the wonderful treatment of LGBT in these countries. \n\n**Trumps word** ***'shithole'*** **waaay worse than actual imprisonment and killing of LGBT!!!!**\n\nReally disgusting shit when you think about it\n\nso we do not need more terrible homophobes and their terrible homophobia, we should be focusing on bringing over people from countries that value human rights.\n\nYou know who we SHOULD let in from these countries? the oppressed LGBTQA! That's who should get preference, so they can come here and contribute to our society. So they can go to NYC/LA/SFC/other safer places if they want. If they want to stay and try and cleanup the shitholes and make them better all the respect love and support to them for it. Fuck their oppressors tho",
"Firstly that takes several leaps in logic, the first being that first generation immigrants should be expected to automatically do as well as native born citizens, when history tells us that while first generation immigrants do far better than they did in their native land, it is their second and third generation progeny who achieve parity with native born citizens.\n\nGo look up stats for first generation Cubans who came to America in the '70s or early '80s and I'll bet you'll find similar gaps between them and native citizens, while those gaps have all but been wiped out or surpassed by their children and grandchildren.\n\nSecondly, broad general stats are themselves a strawman in this discussion. If your argument is to defend Trump's statement or imply that he was talking about a \"merit\" based system, then broad stats like that are completely irrelevant, right? I mean, if we're going to let people in based on their own individual merits, then we have to, you know, **look at the individual and not an entire group or country**, right? Right?\n\nAnd that is precisely why Trump's statement was so racist. It made no distinction for individuals from these \"shithole\" countries, and if he meant to then he never would have brought up \"shithole\" countries in the first place, since where someone is irrelevant, only that person's individual situation and merits, right? Again, see the difference between a militant Muslim from Norway or a white South African.",
"Shitholian here.. Hey thanks for the insight. Know of any place that will take us in? I heard there was a country built on the backs of people in situations similar to mine, heard of it?",
"I'm sure that would be a fruitful use of my time and you won't find some ridiculous excuse to just dismiss whatever I post.",
"Is this referring to Haiti’s president or one from an African country?",
"No class. Not surprised. ",
"Since when did Trump turn into Mr. Lahey??",
"Yeah, but are they wrong tho?",
"RIP he ded",
"It does take a month to learn the new number",
"I know it’s hard to accept that trump is a good president. My guess is that this topic is a little too advanced for you. Try to keep up, ok little fella?",
"#SHITHOLE\n\n#PRESIDENT",
"I don't believe you know how impeachment works",
"It literally means a city that has changed it laws to harbors illegal immigrants, whether or not their only crime is simply coming here illegally once or coming here illegally multiple times after already getting deported for various crimes. Sometimes the later even discharge guns that end up killing Americans and get to walk away. \n\nThey really are a heck of a place. ",
"Basketball or Grey Poupon",
"What if your partner was abroad and unable to reenter the country due to a travel ban? What if your daughter was murdered protesting nazis at a rally?\n\nEven if you specifically, by a combination of luck and skill, are comfortable enough that nothing short of unprecedented war would touch your way of life, *many many americans are way more vulnerable*, and the difference between a good administration and a bad one are felt in tangible ways.",
"Nice font choice. ",
"Ahhh, Americans taking up for countries they likely have never experienced. Places they probably die in if forced to live there. All in the name of not saying anything unpleasant, ever. We are a load of crap. ",
"I invite all of you to check out /r/watchpeopledie for a perspective on shithole countries. Just because it’s offensive, doesn’t mean it’s not true. ",
"Spoken like every Trump supporter who uncritically repeats what they hear in their echo chamber without actually seeing the evidence. ",
"Well placed Cis, Well placed. ",
"Here we go again...\n\nBut +1 for getting my name right and not calling me Brent. \n\nI’m out. I’m actually going to follow the advice that like 99% of the internet has given me \n\n“don’t argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience”",
"Precisely ",
"You only have a birthday very four years? ",
"Roger Stone, is the man you're looking for. Quite literally a devil dressed in white.",
"While I will never disagree that the States are better than a large portion of the world and that our freedoms, for now, allow us to keep our heads attached no matter what we say, I will not agree that this fact alone is enough to say \"it's all good\". There can always be improvement. Even if we are 'the best' (debatable), we can always do better. ",
"Hence the circle jerk.",
"Except one had a choice",
"I think part of it is that the audience doesn’t care about war. I never hear anyone bring up the unjust war in conversation. It’s all clickbait articles that are discussed around the water cooler in the morning. We collectively don’t care, and it’s disturbing to me as well. \n\nMaybe if we stopped clicking on clickbait, the production would decrease. Supply and demand. ",
"The whole thing flared up because of a comment made by Marco Rubio, but [apparently the little hands thing is decades old.](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/history-donald-trump-small-hands-insult/story?id=37395515)\n\nJust one article i googled up. There's a couple of Trump quotes in there too on the subject. I'm just amazed that republican presidential candidates got into a pissing contest about the size of each others hands... ",
"That's a womanly penis!",
"Obama said Libya was a shit show. \n\nNow dance for me. Dance a beautiful dance of mental gymnastics. *sits back and watches *",
"Bread and Circuses.\n",
"Lol he fucked up and won. So first it was colliding with Russians to win, now it is a total accident. You guys are too much. ",
"thats a fucking expensive projector",
"Was Trump wrong? Nope.",
"Exactly. Politics is about lying. And the biggest lie they should play along with, in order to keep the peace, is that we all like and respect each other. It’s irresponsible for the president, no matter who he is, to make those remarks. And maybe America should be trying to help counties not be shitholes... but we’d have to do that by example and right now it’s not going so well. ",
"Don't take it from others, go traveling and see for yourself. Seriously. The army is missing out on a lot if they only go to giant shitholes. A few places are bad, but it's 95% interesting and enriching to experience different places and cultures.",
"Except he didn’t use it diplomatically, and theres no evidence he even said it at all. He *allegedly* said it in a closed door meeting, while trying to make a point about immigration. It was never meant to be heard by the entire fucking world.",
"Homeless dumping is a real thing, so much so that SF and other major cities are giving homeless people bus tickets to go home, after being bussed to them",
"Doesn't that happen every few months though? ",
"You do realize that this is projected onto the building from another location unassociated with those at federal building right?",
"Crazy thing is if humans weren't here, there would be no crime #killallhumans",
"Exactly! ",
"Yikes. I did a quick search and Snopes says that Ivana later claimed in a book that she didn't intend the word rape in its commonly used manner. Who knows what the hell that even means? Lol.\n\nRegardless, sounds like the jerk did something very wrong.",
"i looked into projector asvertising. you cant shine messages on buildings with approval from owner or permit. its a bylaw",
"ISIS was literally surrounded in Mosul by Iraqi military the month before Obama left office. \n\nISIS would have been retreating the why it has regardless of who the President is today.",
"I’m gonna need to see your source for this. I’m sure most of the out of towner homeless people made their way their on their own because the climate is easier to survive in year round instead of spending winter in a state like Indiana or Ohio.\n\nCoastal states love to virtue signal, but they have so many issues they ignore.",
"You mean you survived Net Neutrality repeal long enough to be murdered by tax cuts? Lucky you...",
"Those are uncivilized countries. The only reason India supports Trump is because of their rivalry with Pakistan. They dont even know who the fuck he is.",
"Don’t speak for Philippines like it’s your own big social circle. I have a huge Philippine family and while they are 50/50 on trump, they are 80/20 on supporting dutarte. He’s vile, disgusting, corrupt, however he is doing something (even if it’s just a strong hand in public) with the rampant drug problem. I don’t support his ways but a lot of Filipinos do.",
"There's also two senators who were in the meeting that released a joint statement saying they didn't hear him say that. So not only is there all this outrage over a word, but he might not have even said it! ",
">I’m out. I’m actually going to follow the advice that like 99% of the internet has given me\n\nLOL nah, Bren, stop lying. You're out because you keep getting BTFO and can't back up anything you say. All you have is ad hominem attacks. Bye felicia! ",
"Thanks to other cities bussing their homeless over to a more compassionate city.",
"link to \"the real\" approval ratings please? Let me guess fox news?\n",
"San Francisco: where 2/3 of cars are Prius’s.",
"Wonder why people want to leave those countries? Hmmmm",
"99% of Hatians would also describe Haiti as a shithole country.\n\n*Literally the reason they want to leave it.*",
"That's the first thing I thought, too! Where's the projector that it can be so clear? (Haha, a clean Shithole!)",
"Same here man, I get tired of the two party American society and what equates to the uniparty in our govt a lot of the time. Voted libertarian for the past 3 pres elections. What good it's done, but it is a voice and it is my right as well. ",
"So you can’t then.",
"The people who were actually in the meeting and reported that he said it maybe? You can't just plug your ears and scream fake news, that doesn't make it actually fake.",
"I mean, at the very least remove him from a privilege of authority? That's what I would ask. Nothing more. \n\nThe illegal immigrant isn't a cop.",
"You’re* wrong.",
"Fuck off that is the most sensational post I’ve ever read.",
"As someone from the UK who takes an interest in learning about whats happening in the world outside my own borders, its a real shame seeing what is happening in America right now and how it seems like you guys cant actually see this for yourselves. \n\nYou have the 'Liberal' side who's opinion is the only opinion and if you say otherwise you're the one in the wrong. You then have the Republican side who are your 'Murica' people who gain satisfaction from seeing the Liberals complaining and goad it. It humors me too i guess :/ \n\nNow I myself see good things from Trump. He might not be the best guy in the world but hes certainly making a difference with increased jobs, hes even got you guys a tax cut. I've read families in America are getting an extra $1500 a month in some cases. Hell, i'd be happy an extra £20 on my wage haha! It so easy to see from the outside how much hate is pushed for him from your Media, and everyone just jumps straight on to it. No questions, just blindingly believing everything they say about him without reading the full story. You just get the one sided narrative. Of course they are going to put him in a bad light, they stand to lose with him in power because they are part of the problem. Propaganda, distraction and misdirection.\n\nImagine if Hillary Clinton had of been elected, she would of declared war with Russia in her inauguration speech and that would of been WW3 started and your family and friends are the ones who get sent to fight and die. The UK would end up getting roped in too so then that's my friends and family who get sent too.\n\n",
"Yes, I can't waste more time on your type.",
"Describes Obama perfectly.",
"All politicians are used car salesmen..",
"SCUM! RUSSIAN SCUM!",
"I've been to SF. But your claim was that every city has people shitting in the streets. Mine doesn't. And SF is the only city I've heard there's confirmation of it being a problem.",
"Not surprised to see this in a city full of SJW cunts. ",
"Where the hell do you get bullshit anecdotes like this from? Illegal immigrants don't have it \"made\" relative to legal citizens. That's absurd.",
"Well done. ",
"> Nah. It'll be impeachment. \n\n[The Democrats already voted for Peach Mints](https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/trump-impeachment-vote-fail-282888) not even a month ago and it failed spectacularly because even most Democrats realize how silly that is.",
"Anybody who runs against Trump can basically use MAGA as their campaign slogan now.",
"Should say shit hole city. Bums shitting and pissing on side walks, Aggressive pan handlers, trash everywhere, dead junkies laying on the sidewalk in a nice area. I don't see why people want to pay so much to live in such a fucked up place. The natural views are awesome around the bay but the progressive leadership has regressed the city into a 3rd world area once you step out of your million dollar 300sf studio onto the street. I like SF and visit the bay once or twice a year and as I get older it seems like it is getting worse and worse. I'm taking about SF City not the whole Bay Area. ",
"Yours",
"I worked in media for several years long before they and all the rest of our country went batshit insane. We were NEVER allowed to source people anonymously, because libel laws are rough if you’re wrong and someone decides to come after you for it. Especially someone in a position or power. The best way to source something is to hear it for yourself. If you didn’t and it’s something juicy or as ridiculous as the “shithole” comment, then make sure you source it from the highest sources of trust. Congressional aides are not the highest sources of trust. You may think media is agenda-driven (and many are) but you Congressional aides and staffers are among the worst. They’re young, insanely driven to climb politically and their lives are committed to their Congressman or Senator. They will do or say anything for you to print what they want. Exaggerating and twisting facts are part of this. I never trusted a staffer with printable details until I heard it from their boss. ",
"Funny how the 'shithole' countries are libertarian paradises. Noreay, Trump's example of a not- shithole, is Scandnavian socialist. ",
"Both, they always go hand in hand. Street artists always start by tagging then moving up to art. Banksy only moved into stencils because they don’t take long to spray. ",
"Usually in the shithole countries like Bangladesh n' such ",
"I just bought a box of these! They're great.",
"Hillary also admitted to having a public opinion and private opinion of issues in the debates also, so there's that. ",
"My point. ^^",
"You will need to provide a credible source.",
"I was hiding under skulls and rotting bodies in the antarctic. Living off penguin meat for 2 years.",
"No actual evidence Trump even said it",
"Classy",
"I would bet you've never even been to Oakland, and probably never even to California. ",
"True, in the same article I posted it has this quote\n\n>During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me. I wish to say that on one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.\n\nAs you say, either way it's bad. Either way it's a violent assault.\n",
"Shithole city where you literally see people shitting all over the place. Calling third world countries shitholes isn’t exactly incorrect. People who know nothing about immigration have no idea about dealing with people from third world countries. ",
"> Destroying careers and lives, and driving people to suicide through harassment on social media is apparently perfectly acceptable.\n> \n> Macing people, beating them up, destroying local stores and ATMs and such also seems to be perfectly acceptable.\n\nHuh? Online bullying and harassment is a huge issue that is being fought against with much vigour these days, no? And I guess mace and ATS's is some reference but pretty sure assault and destruction of property is still generally frowned upon. I could be mistaken but seems like a whole lot of straw in this comment, man...\n",
"Holy shit you’re dumb ",
"Yeah, denigrate the compassionate acts of a community instead of offering suggestions to the more fundamental problem of poverty and homelessness itself. Really, the lack of humanity in these 'fuck the homeless' comments is shocking. I won't blame San Francisco for struggling with a human problem that other cities just choose to 'bus away'.",
"One bright spot I've been hoping for since Trump was elected is that the fake ass progressives who sat on their hands and said fuck all as Obama massively expanded the surveillance state might actually start giving a fuck since they hate Trump so much. ",
">Those are uncivilized countries. \n\nHoly fuck really? They are uncivilized? How elitist of you, yet I bet you got your panties in a wad when Trump supposedly called other countries a shithole. Yeah, you're a hypocrite and a shill account. ",
"I think you not caring about being racist or making slurs against people with intellectual disabilities is part of this problem. We live in a society where self-interest well-understood crumbles without caring about we treat other people. \n\nYes, it would be racism to dismiss predominantly white countries as shithole countries while saying the opposite about countries with majorities of people of color. This isn’t what happened though and this rhetoric our president used here reinforces what he has said in the past. There is a problem when we have a racist president. Is this something we can agree on?",
"This belongs on r/trashy\n",
"Wow, did you go to law school? You don't know what murder is. ",
"That sounds like a pain to clean up.",
"This is going to be pretty interesting legally. It's obviously a protected first amendment speech, and it's not defacing, obstructing the use of, or otherwise an incitement of the same. Even if someone did it openly, arresting them or stopping them in any way will instantly spawn a legal challenge with all the heaviest pro-1st amendment muscle behind it. \n\nIt would be hilarious if this started a trend in building design where you have odd irregular angles and refractory paints over flat surfaces to scatter lights.\n\nThe administration will probably find a way to regulate or outlaw this. I think there may be laws in use of laser illuminator already, but any new regulation they try to pass that would restrict this will probably have to pass the strict scrutiny Constitutionally as a limit on a fundamental right and even possibly a prior restraint. And that's difficult.\n\nI do think that there should be some information circulating to let the present and future \"illuminateers\" to stay within the protected pocket of free speech as to not give ammunition to those who would try to quash this delightful movement.",
"I meant that if it became very easy to remove a President from office, the opposing party would do it frivolously, for purely political reasons as a power grab. Considering how often the Republican party acted in bad faith, obstructed the process of governing, and launched outright false and blatantly racist attacks on Obama during his time in office, I'm suggesting they would have ousted him as soon as they had the power to.",
"Similar things happen in Mexico. When some big change is about to happen suddenly the government does something stupid to divert the attention on the important topic. An expansion to surveillance (that most of us didn’t even know about until now) yet the front page has been about the shithole comment. It is not a coincidence. I wonder how often important changes are covered up with Trumps “stupidity”",
"I don’t see the shithole comment",
"It's not just about education though..\n\nI don't necessarily see it an issue to consider people of the same race to make better immigrants. I think that's quite logical actually. Maybe not the ideal mindset in this cuddly world we're aiming towards but it's the consensus of many across the world, of all races.\n\nI don't know which African countries he was referring to, but there certainly are many 'shithole' ones. Just as there are many shithole Asian countries, south American countries and some in Europe too.\n\nNigerians in the UK are pretty well educated too, but that's not true of all African nationalities. \n\nHis wording was poor, I don't think many would argue against that, but the implication is a fair one in my opinion. It is acceptable to rank potential immigrants, Australia do it, many other countries do too.",
"Go to Bristol mate. ",
"Hahahaha, you're a funny gender fluid object. My argument is now a headline... Well good that means it carries weight and is important. But Trump is doing a hell of a good job. Blocking access to shithole countries, increasing gdp, bring back jobs and unemployment are the lowest in decades! But Obama and Hilary aren't in prison yet, that is a negative point and you're right, he isn't perfect",
"The type that asks for proof? Sounds like an easy excuse so you can keep saying shit without proof because there isn’t any.",
"> but he knows how to play the media sometimes.\n\nSometimes? lol, he's been baiting the media non-stop since he announced his candidacy and they keep falling for the same shit.",
"So their chance at opportunity should match their inherited socio-economic status? pheww, good thing its not me!\n\nEdit: Their",
"I wouldn’t expect you to care that trump gets bribed on a regular basis or that he implements laws that specifically help himself. As long as it upsets liberals you’re happy. Ive seen every excuse in the book. Any single thing trump has done, pick anyone, And if it were obama to have said it or do it, you and Fox News would be calling for impeachment. ",
"Yes, that is accurate if you are reasonably lucky. 1 bedroom, 3.2k/mo. So cheap.",
"#Making America Great Again",
"In this case, yes, it is just a conservative buzzword. Because you offered it as a counterargument where it makes no sense. \n\nYes, that is my actual argument because my argument is only that saying the word \"antifa\" is not a relevant response in this case. How is it relevant to what the other guy said?",
"Clinton. It's obviously Clinton.\n\n\nI'm not saying Clinton was a *good* choice. But that's a monster of your own making by, as a nation, being so right wing that you don't have any alternatives except \"right wing\" and \"insanely right wing\".\n\n\n\nBut you could have had Trump running against almost any politician on the planet and he *still* would have been a worse choice. \n\n\nTrump is an insane narcissist who doesn't know anything whatsoever about anything at all. He certainly doesn't know anything about politics, economics, social issues, diplomacy, law, or *any* of the skills that might have helped him serve in a position of power. Let alone the *most* powerful position it is possible to put him in.\n\n\nAnyone with a brain stem should have been able to tell what a disastrous catastrophe he was going to be as President. And saying: \"it was a choice between him and Clinton\" doesn't absolve you of any blame.\n\n\nIf you don't think Clinton was a better choice than Trump, then you evidently know as much about any of the above issues as Trump did.\n\n\nVirtually everyone living outside of America seems to realize that. Only in America does there appear to be any debate as to whether or not Trump is competent or suitable for the position he's been elected to. Everywhere else the answer is, quite obviously: \"No, he isn't.\"",
"yawn\n\nsan fran isnt exactly pristine ",
"Bren, you couldn't even back up your claims with proof and you made them. You get called out for it then cry and say you are out. Bro you got BTFO because you're the idiot, hence why you are quitting. ",
"San Fran likes to smell their own farts. Trashy people in a trashy state.",
"Talk about shit hole cities ",
"Designed not to be preserved? Or designed to be reviewed at regular intervals, to make sure Congress was still satisfied with its function? It makes sense to have regular reviews of a system that relies on secret court proceedings, after all. Need to have some sort of check.\n\nIt's comforting to think that those who disagree with you have been duped. But the reality is, some folks have looked at the substance and think that the current system is a satisfactory way to conduct surveillance. ",
"It's because one of those things gets you *attention* and *validation*. \n\nIt is truly perplexing to see how society has changed in the last x many years. It seems like the last five - seven, but I could be wrong. Oddly enough, it's been a cultural shift as well - things you'd see on SNL 30 years ago would now be decried were they to happen.\n\nI desperately hope every day that we're just in a phase. We'll see.",
"Honestly, given his past, he was probably also in on a scheme to help the DNC get Hillary in the WH. I think he was colluding with some corrupt democrats, not just Russia. Except Russia actually wanted him to win to sow dissent and did a damn good job of doing it. The fact that we ended up with two candidates who would never win against almost anyone else kinda shows that.\n\nEdit: clarification",
"> It is a pretty big deal if you are an immigrant (like myself) or from these \"shithole countries\". \n\nAre you a legal immigrant, and which country are you from?",
"There was definitely a time when people had far less access to information and it was significantly more difficult to spread information. The news that people got came from responsible sources with ethics and standards. Today any fool with a phone can disseminate all kinds of BS and lies and reach millions through social media and other platforms. \n\nSo now instead of not seeing information and not having an opinion you have millions of naive people reading game news headlines on FB and assuming they are now educated on the issue.",
"By stupid shit, do you mean all the policy that he said he would be putting in place that many, many people support? The Paris Agreement had the US paying out billions more than other UN countries. Fuck that noise",
" I'm annoyed they didn't change the small black print on the right side. Still says the actual name. ",
"Wow your argument falls flat and you go on a word rampage of Hillary obama and gender talk. Even when there’s evidence right in front of you if you being wrong you just deny it. Brainwash to a T. ",
"If by everyone you mean people who are homeless and can't shit in a toilet because they don't have one, yes.",
"It’s discouraging that people still defend Trump. He doesn’t have your best interests at heart. Stop comparing him to previous leaders. He’s a bully and he’s only out for himself. I’m sorry you can’t see it. ",
"It was past his bedtime.",
"**NSFW**",
"> What's your point? They said shithole president not fascist president. You're arguing with nobody, and here I am, like an idiot, allowing your more opportunities to do it. But what ever.\n\nThis is when you say \"have you heard of Antifa\"? \n\nWhat the fuck are you even trying to say? That Antifa exists? Congratulations! Because the guy you responded to said specifically that Trump is NOT a fascist. \n\nThis would be like me saying \"but Trump!\" when someone else was rightfully criticizing Antifa. You brought up Antifa, despite the irrelevance, for the easy karma grab.",
"> Idk maybe not pass laws to attract homeless people\n\nSo arrest them like other states to prop up a private prison system?\n\n> Maybe start prosecuting drug offenses?\n\nI don't think personal drug use should be a crime. Addiction is real and is a public health problem, not a crime. Locking people up for drug offences and then making them a felon who then has no chance of getting a real job doesn't work. When they get out they even if they get clean they are put on a wellfare track because they are not going to be able to be hired anywhere with decent pay. In the end our current system ensures that it bolsters private prisons and then costs tax payers a ton for welfare.\n\n> Maybe stop allowing homeless people to sleep on sidewalks like most other places. \n\nWhere are they going to sleep? What are you going to do arrest them so they can sleep in jail, just to rinse and repeat the next night? This does not solve the issue. Making it illegal to sleep outside doesn't erase homelessness",
"I think if the person he \"accidentally\" killed was your child, you'd be the one with a pitchfork also.\n\nThere is no fury like a parent's scorn. ",
"Why do people keep on saying that the reason people are irked is because of \"bad words\"?\n\nStop this disengenous bullshit. Maybe if you were a individual US citizen who has origins from one of these \"shithole countries\", you would understand the cause for major concern. \n\nSee, he didn't just state that these countries were \"shitholes\" in passing. He said something else and it seems like people like you keep on ignoring it. \n\nHe stated that he doesn't want people from shithole countries coming here. That tells me that he never wanted people like my parents to immigrate here. That tells me he isn't my president. He isn't my parents' president. He is the president of his base. And when you understand the amount of clout he has in setting Immigration policy, you understand how concerned a individual resident in the US who had origins from those \"shithole\" countries might feel like they aren't being represented by their own god damn President.",
"I'm going to put the /s here for you since you clearly left it out. Holy shit you sound so blind. ",
"Evidence of what? Increase gdp under Trump. Yes I know.",
"I don’t really care for liberal or conservative here. I’m a moderate and I’m looking at this objectively. ",
"They created their shithole of a country. We don’t need them here. \n\nAsk yourself: who’s oppressing those poor black people in Haiti? Is it that institutional racism holding their whole country back? ",
"Uh huh.... The Hindenburg was a good zeppelin too. ",
"Oooh that’ll get him. Fuck Trump and his record stock market, unemployment and jobs!!! ",
"Very underrated comment/understanding. Spot on.",
"Which is to say your bias leads you to swallowing propagandic narratives so easily to you the truth does not matter. \n\nPeople were defending it for one reason, they are so used to the propagandic narrative being just that, they knew the likelihood of this being the same, and it was. \n\nAnother completely misleading media driven lie. ",
"...says the christian. \n\nEdit: or any religion.",
"I dunno if you have any ideas about this at all, but I constantly wonder about the homeless that aren't mentally and physically disabled, etc. If things are so bad, and they don't have anyone nearby that cares enough to give them a place to stay, then why do they not go somewhere else that they might have a chance? I'm not trying to ask loaded questions here, I genuinely wonder and haven't found an answer. \n\nFor example, I know and have heard of so many people that got into drugs so badly that they ended up going somewhere to get away and clean up.\n\n If I were homeless and generally well, I think I would go somewhere else where the standard of living and/or safety net is a bit better for me to get my feet on the ground.\n\nIs it just that most if not all of these homeless are not well enough to think and do for themselves?\n\nHas anyone done more in depth research to the point of tracing back why and when these people became homeless?",
"You're a disgusting human being, if it'd be your daughter or your sister you wouldn't talk with such smuggness. You literally disgust me, that's the same feeling I have for pedos and when I see vomit on the ground",
"Was their former policy to release murderers only when they're illegal immigrants?",
"For it to fit the confines of \"derangement syndrome\", it would have to be a wildly false statement, unsupported by evidence. \n\nFor future reference, it's \"truly\", btw. ",
">For Oakland, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small).",
"Post the statistic please?\n\nBecause in the past ten years, the average Immigrant has a higher probability of having a degree and professional skill than the average American native born citizen.",
"> I think you not caring about being racist\n\nLOL",
"No they dint[ Indonesia](http://time.com/5058038/indonesia-donald-trump-jerusalem/) [ Malaysia](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/10/trump-israel-capital-malaysian-military-ready-to-support-jerusalem-defense-minister-says.html)\n\nOnly uncivilized and arrogant people like your president",
"Yeah, it’s truly a disgusting city. Used condoms and needles strewn about on the ground. I mean, you expect that in Camden, but not in San Francisco. ",
"Some I assume are good people.",
"Can't do video. Would you stand by that if the pee tape leaked?",
"[Snopes is a left leaning website and here you go](https://www.snopes.com/2017/07/12/trump-lies/) ",
"Furthermore, it's entirely possible he didn't even say it at all. Though I wouldn't blame him if he did. That's just being honest about the state of the country. Haiti got it's independence 30 years after the USA, yet it's a shithole.",
"Not you bro.\n\nTalkin bout OP here. ",
"Largest punishment for just about anything less than murder is deportation. It's a legal mess to bring them to trial in an American court so they almost always just hand them over to Mexican authorities who are under-resourced an just let most go free. Week later they are back over here like nothing happened. These are the kinds of incidents we can all agree should be stopped, then we can have a more rational discussion about our immigration problems.",
"Here’s how I know you’re brainwashed. Trump got you to believe Hillary has done illegal things. Got you to scream lock her up at his rallies. Trump wins, gets republican control over our government, and trump is the only one being federally investigated. You do know if republicans thought she actually broke the law they could have her arrested right? So please tell me more :) ",
"Getting old",
"Wherever there is a congregation of homeless people, this stuff happens. If you haven’t witnessed it elsewhere, then consider yourself privileged. ",
"Yeah my 401k is loving it so far!! ",
"Sure, just come legally.",
"Yup that’s 100% how it is. We all just can’t help going around killing everyone else. Total mayhem. It’s become so much of an issue that homeowners are building structures out of the skulls of random people the Sanctuary State made them murder. The people who are really getting screwed though are the renters. No matter how much skull building they do in their homes it’s still not an asset to them and when they move out they never get close to market value for the skull improvements they’ve completed.",
"I’m not Christian nor would that be a logical step in your argument. Please provide proof of your claims, bigot.",
"Middle class older white male here, and I do stuff in Oakland all the time without giving it a second thought. There are parts you wouldn’t walk through at night flashing money, sure, just like anywhere else. But as much as I was terrified of the *idea* of Oakland before moving to the area, the *actual* Oakland isn’t scary at all.",
"I guess if you have no argument, writing someone off as crazy is the next best thing. Btw, why do you hate america?",
"I was homeless. Sorry but the solution isnt to accommodate them. There are plenty of resources to get off the streets and get back on your feet. Decriminalizing drugs and allowing homeless people to shit, piss, and sleep wherever they want is not doing anything for them. Its enabling them. Recriminalize drugs. Most drug related charges wind up with opportunities to go into treatment facilities and court ordered drug programs before being sent to jail in California. Just allowing junkies to shoot up and leave their needles everywhere isnt a fucking option. \n\nAll the programs are in place for people to get help in California, either take it or don't. \n\nEdit: homeless as in March of last year I literally had nothing but the clothes on my back. I now have my own apartment, a car, and a girl. The state paid for my training in my current job and placed me after training all free of charge cause I was homeless and used the resources available to everyone already. I'm sure letting me shit on the sidewalks and shoot up are the better way to go though",
"You got it, this ride only began! Wait til this shit goes nuc.... THIS IS AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE, IF CAN RECEIVE THIS RESPONSE... ",
"The thing is most of my opinion is formed by watching him speak. Not what political pundits relay. \n\nTrumps speeches are chaotic and dividing. He’s sticking up for nazis. I guess I’m biased against nazi supporters. Sure!",
"> Would a Haitian rather move to the states or norway?\n\nBased on immigration statistics, it's the US by a mile.",
"Reddit has become the biggest shithole of all.",
"Haters gonna hate. \n\n(He didn't even say it, which sucks because I wish he did.)",
"\"according to several people briefed on the meetings.\"",
"Too bad Haiti is a shithole.",
"Ehh. Im pretty sure its income inequality, but if it really bothers you to not say rude things that much, you should move to russia and tell me about how free speech is there where they don't worry about PC. Over there they just literally beat you up in the street for saying \"the government is discriminating against women, and lgbt\". So much better than attempting to not hurt the feelings of those who have historically been discriminated against. Tell me how respecting the background of people is horrible and will end civilization while writing into radio shows protesting them for speaking badly about christians again? Also, tell me how people who write in speaking out against those who insult christian beliefs on tv can hold the cognitive dissonance required to then get annoyed at \"PC culture people\" being upset over the exact same things but for other people and beliefs because I really do not understand. PC is about not saying things that are offensive to large sects of the population because of past history of discrimination and violence, and I have trouble seeing why that is going to cause an issue for anyone other than those who want to be needlessly offensive. There are even ways to call black people bad and subhuman that adherance to PC doesnt prohibit, you just can't call them niggers when you do so. Saying that PC is the end of civilization, no matter how many times you say it, will not make it true. Sorry. PC is simply about not making an enemy of yourself before you actually have the chance to make your point.",
"This makes me proud to be American in a time where it’s often embarrassing.",
"I heard Mexican detention centers and jails have the finest cuisine and the cleanest restrooms.",
"Maybe the question we should be asking is why is there a common denominator in which countries are objectively shitholes, and which ones aren't then...",
"He should be randomly bouncing bullets off of shit into the skulls of women in his own country.",
"Uniparty",
"Ours?",
"Over exaggerated",
"Trump could've used different language and still have said a racist thing. It's not the language that's the main problem, but the sentiment behind it.\n\n",
"I'm gonna have a steaming-hot covfefe to celebrate.",
" # notmyShithole",
"Awww Shit! I almost forgot! everyone whose ancestors emigrated to the US brought their cash cows and money trees with them! ",
"Only tourists call it “San Fran”.",
"This can be said for 100% of everything.\n\nOh, you threw a water bottle at the window? You planet hater...why weren’t you spending quality time with your parents? Now you’re a family neglecting planet hating cunt. ",
"Their governments did too, learn to read shill. \n\n>Only uncivilized and arrogant people like your president\n\nawwe look at you being an elitist. ",
"\"...I don't recall.\"",
"Nope. Set it and forget it. Stuff dissolves. Deodorizers, too",
"This country is going to shit and I wanna die because of it.",
"> I said, “Obviously, I’m an American aren’t I?” He then said “Well then you’re just going to have to accept it”. \n\n\nNothing is more American than changing the things we do not like. Accepting mediocrity is failure. ",
" anything that has to do with economic growth has precisely nothing to do with the Trump administration. We are just now ending the fiscal year that started under Obama and was governed by rules set during his administration. ",
"A truer statement has yet to be made.",
"Mmm yeahh thaaaaaaanks! ",
"You dont need to tolerate intolerance. The more you do that, the less tolerance there is.",
"There it is, more baseless bullshit. \n\nStop lying to yourself. \n\nNo one supports Nazis. \n\n",
"Oh look! More politics on a default sub...\n\n\nyawn",
"I think it’s a private nuisance, if it’s a nuisance at all. ",
"Thats' right, we demand fakeness from our politicians goddamnit!",
"Huh. You’re right. I’ll change my outlook based on your response from now on. ",
"By every objective measure that is correct though.",
"I voted UP before I finished reading... Confession Bear\n\nPS. Thank You!",
"The porn star story is a classic example of believing what you wanna believe. I just opened my wall street journal app. It's right there front and center saying it happened. You apparently have another source. No one can agree on basic facts. I'm rich, but the difference between trump and I is that I don't wanna take money out of the hands of others for fear of them taking mine. Rich old white fucks do tons of damage trust me. ",
"Guy Fawkes this? ",
"No, at the end of the day, it is absolutely NOT an expansion.\n\nNobody on Reddit ever works with politicians. People think they’re these masterful machines that never slip up on anything. These pristine creations that know to do exactly this at exactly this time. They aren’t. The most successful politician in the US right now came barreling in from out of town, with the Hollywood Access tape & calling Mexican border crossers “rapists”. The biggest intellectual crime people commit is “they’re just doing x or y to distract you”. No they aren’t, no they fucking aren’t. When something slips into a bill or you don’t here about it, it’s because the media you digest wasn’t paying attention or missed it. They follow the SAME exact processes EVERY time. They aren’t orchestrating this grand scheme to pass a bunch of tax legislation to just *slip* in this bill here or there. There are 51 senate republicans. They are not coordinating amongst themselves to pass basic repeals or renewals under the radar that their constituency already voted them in to do that only upset you guys. God I hate conservatives but I’ve worked in politics and know it doesn’t function too differently from your local school board. It’s chaotic and messy.\n\nFISA was never up for a vote, which was what your ENTIRE comment was based on. Section 702 was, which is just a portion of a portion of this act. It enables surveillance of communications of non-US persons located outside the US for foreign intelligence. If you scrutinize everything that’s on the floor every day there’s probably 2 or 3 more things per day that should matter to you more, but for some reason everybody seems to be freaking out about something that most people can’t even agree whether it may or may not allow domestic surveillance. As far as we know, the only such incident suspected was actually on the Trump campaign w the Russian dossier.\n\nAt the end of the day, voting to renew (narrowly) a niche, small section of FISA is not an “expansion” of US surveillance. It’s a renewal. These types of legislation aren’t designed to expire so they may end, we vote to renew stuff literally all the time. It simply gives them more flexibility to do so.",
"\"Our President is a disgrace he is so vulgar!\"\n\n\"I'm so Proud to see \"SHITHOLE\" lit up across a major American City!\"\n\nYou're just a loser, bud.",
"And like no other president or person in the governments never says anyfucking thing like fuck shit motherfucker ,my fav,motherfucker. Omg he said a dirty word better to tell mommy",
"Which respected publication did you work for that banned anonymous sources for investigative journalism? Anonymous sources are a key facet of investigative journalism and has been for many generations. It already took down one president.",
"Unfortunately, when we had all this land available to just almost give away, we welcomed it. Unfortunately, it's not so open anymore and we need to enforce our legal ways to assimilate to our Country. Times have changed. ",
"I’m against political correctness. How can anyone argue that Haiti isn’t a shithole country? Anyone take a vacation to Haiti recently? ",
"Let's Make America Whole Again.",
"Lol - gimme facts, dude! What am i missing? Are there any factual inconsistencies in what i wrote? My main point here is the left seems to be throwing a hissy fit without any facts or logic and every single person who's responded comes up short on facts or refuses to include any, thus proving my point.\n\nTake a step outside the bubble, look for yourself at the way almost everyone on every anti Trump thread throws a tantrum like children do instead of being more balanced and debating facts like adults do. . .",
"Damn, how sad does your life have to be to be making comments like these. If you're actually an adult, I feel bad for you and those you associate with",
"Wow. A cuck in the wild",
"Your comment says nothing beyond \"your comment is not a logically sound argument.\" I was merely describing the form of humour that I saw in his comments so your application of the fallacy in this context is fallacious. \n\nWould you like to try again? This time try to say something that's actually meaningful. Or at least accurate. ",
"> The fact the Trump is a racist is not a surprise\n\n[Black unemployment is at the lowest rate in recorded history](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/01/05/black-unemployment-falls-to-lowest-level-on-record/?utm_term=.7d0269221367), which makes Trump the worst racist ever. ",
"You think ONLY 13 year olds describe those places as Shitholes?\n\nSeriously, that's not an immature thing to call it. ",
"Not a fan of Trump here, but I have to say it makes me sad that the office of \"President\" has become so disrespected. ",
"I feel like you're selling me something.",
"My name is Commander Shepherd and I approve this message ",
"Why would the president act like a pathetic moron, even in a closed meeting? He's the fucking president of the United States and shouldn't be a piece of shit like you. ",
"Highway 5 goes to buttfuck nowhere and we paid for that too",
"Those are all the useless people nobody wants in the US. Get your head in the game. Africans are a drain on society. ",
"Oh, you are under the impression that I'm having an *argument* with you that needs proof. No, dear, I'm having fun. I'll waste no more time trying to make your type accept proof. If you were the type that accepted and understood proof, you wouldn't be a Trump supporter.\n\nAnd your post history clearly shows you aren't *a bright atheist* too.",
"Californians jerking each other off again. Nothing to see here ",
"Yeah that's fantasy fodder.",
"The ONLY thing that the Democrats and Republicans can 100% agree on is that neither party ever wants a third party in the USA. Too bad too... it works in Canada (for the most part). ",
"/r/im14andthisisedgy ",
"Wait, are you living in a world where you think Obama received objectively worse treatment from the media and the public than Trump?",
"That's pretty brash coming from a city that has map of literal poop in the streets. ",
"I’m not talking about any specific argument, I was referring to your platform and how it isn’t relevant nor necessary if you insult people in the process.",
"As did Brighton ",
"Can confirm, am slightly disturbed.",
"I live in SF and disagree with the person you’re replying to, but your comment was uncalled for.",
"That isn’t legal.\n\nTechnically it could be but without conspiracy to raise prices between retailers it just simply would never happen.",
"I visited my friend who was going to school in the tenderloin, and walking around there, I was blown away by the amount of homelessness.\n\nMy experience there, though, and I'm not sure how typical this is, but nobody asked me for a single thing. Nobody asked for change, a dollar, or a cigarette; they had a sidewalk that some sold stuff on, but kept to themselves. \n\nWould you say that is an average day in the tenderloin? Or did I just luck out (a couple of days)? I assumed the city did enough to take care of them, and that is why there are so many there (they flock). ",
"The worst part of all of this is that trump is the only one that actually cares about these shithole countries and everyone else just wants to make a fucking headline. ",
"If you can read, write, and do simple math you are more educated than most Haitians. So no, no one would call Americans uneducated or citizens of a shithole. ",
"Yes. They even have literal poop maps of shit in the streets. A literal shithole. ",
"Just replying to a comment stating everything that would have happened under a Clinton Presidency...which is an alternate timeline ",
"I don't understand. African countries are shitholes. Most are impoverished with corrupt governments that deny there people basic human rights, where people are starving with no running water or electricity. Add on that many African countries harbor terrorists, I would say Africa and most the Muslim word is a shithole. I wouldn't want people from those countries come here. Reddit's full of adults with the mindset of a kindergartner.",
"You should review your copy/paste. You seem to have included actions that were set in motion prior to Trump's administration, as well as \"accomplishments\" that never actually came to fruition. \n\nI love that \"became 45th President\" is on your list of unprecedented accomplishments, btw. \n\nCare to try again? ",
"Hahaha, that same sentiment yesterday got thousands of upvotes, multiple gold, and posted on best-of. Maybe you have to be from one of those places.",
"His tweets aside, whats so inherently wrong about labeling much of Africa or Haiti as complete shitholes in a conversation behind closed doors? You never drove through the bad part of town and said to yourself, “Jesus, what a shithole”? Haiti fucking sucks dude. They have among the highest STD rates and the lowest IQ in the western hemisphere. Yeah, we don’t need to be importing these people. Beyond existing on government handouts, what benefit do we, the American populace, yield? ",
"Nice quote... Alien/Sedition shit aside. Love me some Adams. Am particular though to Abby!",
"Seriously,,, Can you believe these people? ...anyway, Serbia is on the line the're gonna need a couple transports for their intelligentsia ",
"Where do your city's homeless shit? ",
"62k upvote 63% upvotes.\n\nK",
"turn that frown upside down...",
"Sorry, I forgot I have to have a JD to know what murder is. Please, let me step aside.",
"This is absurd speculation ",
"Coooooolll... What would be even cooler if we organized and protested in the streets instead of making instagramable moments. ",
"My platform? What is my platform? Do I even have a fuckin platform\n\nOH and if you're not talking about a specific argument then you should fuck off with the \"list of logical fallacies\" page on Wikipedia. It's not the note you're looking for. ",
"They can come legally if they wish to do so. They have also had terrible governments. Attributing their circumstances to the race of the people is not an accurate way to analyze their issues.",
"You and I at least agree on that point. ",
"Trump wants immigrants who are educated and well adapted to a society like our own. Fucking racist.",
"It sure is when your job is to lead a country and its people. It’s the White House not the local pub. ",
"Homeless shelters, gas stations, pretty much any business with a bathroom. Yours?",
"Explain to me what happens when you incarcerate a homeless person. Please. Tell me the cyclical process. You jail them, they can't afford bail, they're released and the whole cycle starts again. What do you think they'll do after release? You think they'll just all of a sudden be out of poverty and stop their habits after being locked up? Not to mention, your tax dollars are paying for the officers time to incarcerate and process, the facilities to lock them up, and the courts time.\n\nNo, the solution is to build infastructure and help outside of criminalizing. How could you not see that? And when SF is already housing the burden other states and cities should've owned, what do you expect? They don't have the scale and resources to fix it.\n\n",
"Seriously I've only been there once and it rank of hobo piss. I also had a friend that attended Berkeley and was traumatized by how nutso everyone there is, and he wasn't even conservative.",
"I was expecting the right side to say \"go fuck yourself\"",
"Anybody see where the projector was that did this? I would love to know how they pulled that off!",
"Lol, someone questioned if you could list the accomplishments are like there’s none that you could even mention and you end up writing a novel. Kudos for answering the challenge! \n\nMost of those “accomplishments” you’ve listed are controversially considered negative but you stated that he’s accomplished more than his predecessors in a years time so positive/negative should honestly be irrelevant so great job listing all those anyway!\n\nI’m lazy and will not be fact checking the accuracy of the statement that Trump’s list of “accomplishments” in his first year outnumber the 44 presidents before him but I do find that hard to believe. Definitely not saying that it’s impossible but, I’m going to assume that it was just a biased statement toward a president that happens to align with your view of how a president should operate a country.",
"yeah. I would sooner go to American prison before I would choose to go to those shitholes. ",
"Our homeless must just be slightly classier I guess.",
"Aww poor you. You tried to character assassinate me by religion and then by looking to see if I post on t_d. You failed twice and now you’re reaching for the “I was only joking around” route. Sorry, bigot, but you have lost 3 times now. Try again later.\n\nAnd yes you are a bigot by trying to discriminate me based on religion. It’s funny when people only say the right wingers do it.\n\nFor someone who has no time to prove anything you sure waste a lot of time failing the weaker routes.",
"Maybe the trigger warning wasn’t big enough for you?",
"Prop 36 literally exists so people charged with drug crimes can go to treatment instead of prison. Thats not an option in San Francisco cause they won't charge them so they just continue to use drugs and cost the taxpayers an assload more money cause they have to hire more city workers(sf has the highest paid in the state) to be able to keep up with the shit and syringes being left everywhere. \n\nHomeless people can sleep in parks, in fucking bushes. In parking structures, behind dumpsters. Ive done them all. Being homeless isn't supposed to be accommodated. The resources are there to get you on your feet, instead of enabling homelessness with laws like allowing them to sleep on sidewalks and shit wherever they want, how about tell them take advantage of the resources available. If not then its not the cities problem. ",
"But what about muh states rights",
"San Francisco is slowly becoming a shithole",
"The president that truly influences peoples mind.\n",
"I immediately counted the syllables. We have too many haiku people.",
"Why not use rapist tho? It's true of him and it's much more powerful. Probably the same reason a million people aren't surrounding the White House, nobody gives a fuck ",
"They don't release people who have been convicted of multiple felonies. ",
"He's a great president! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!",
"That’s all you got out of my reply? You can do better.",
"I know of one rich white fuck that is actively trying to damage the world: George Soros, but President Trump - not so much. ",
"Here’s one: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/10/nevada-settles-busing-homeless-lawsuit-san-francisco/\n\nGoogle: “homeless bus to SF” to see plenty of others. ",
"Oh please, trump has plenty of time left to say something much much worse and he undoubtedly will ",
"Could it be the, I don’t know, the fucking earthquake?",
"And the cop would have his firearm properly holstered in crowded areas, negating the possibility of discharge.",
"Yeah but lets be honest San Fran has much more homelessness than most places. ",
"The also passed a law that if you knowingly give someone else HIV it’s not a felony!\n\nhttp://beta.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-gov-brown-downgrades-from-felony-to-1507331544-htmlstory.html\n\n",
"^Hahahahahahahah!!! \n\nObama is the First President in the HISTORY of the United States to [never hit 3% GDP growth annualised in a **Single** year of his presidency](https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/)\n\nI'm sure you know this already, but are just playing dumb. . Stock markets **price in** future potential growth to earnings and other company perf metrics, a big part of the pricing being attributed to the prevailing economic climate. The combined factors of, amongst others, an incoming administration that's more supportive of reducing tax and regulatory burdens on businesses is the main attribute cited in **all** investor notes over the past year or so since the Trump administration was elected as reasons to be optimistic about future earnings growth. If you spend any time at all on your investment portfolio, you'll know what i mean and you'll also know that what you're saying is utter falsehood.\n\nHere's another interesting tidbit about Husseins term. . .[a near doubling of the National Debt](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEBTN)",
"We will see. \n\nIf your life is so great, now that Trump is king. Why are you here on reddit arguing? Go enjoy your tax breaks. ",
"Wow lol\nI would hate to be trump",
"Slowly?",
"Why do Americans think that stuff like this really makes a change? Sure, they will post some pics or tweet about things, but they all just bend over and keep getting f****d by the gov ",
"Yea! Who cares that first world countries were built on the colonization and public democracies of smaller less powerful countries whose governments we exploited for our gain! It's like we only want your resources! not yah dumb-dumbs farmers! ",
"I’m not your shithole, cunt.",
"Do friends on the left hate Russia, the Russian political climate, or do they hate the Russian people?\n\nYou see how that works? You can totally think a place is a shithole and not hate the folks that live there. Use your mind, my man.",
"It really wasn't though. You are trying to paint him as a barely functional man baby that luckily flops into every beneficial situation. The truth is somewhere between that and 'master manipulater'. He very clearly understands media. People who think he is a complete and utter moron have some serious lefty glasses on.",
"Fucking LOL.\n\nTurumpu-san!!\n\n*Bakaaa!!!*",
"I love how reddit suddenly cares about cussing.",
"The difference being that, while the KKK is a small, antiquated group that is shunned by the right, Antifa's violence is widely embraced by the left and media and summarily dismissed.",
"When I was taking a risk management class, the teacher made a point that I think applies very similarly here. People aren't afraid of what's most dangerous, they're afraid of what they can most easily conceive of and makes the scariest mental image. The example he used was to ask us to imagine how many people would smoke if, instead of dying gradually from various illnesses, once a year the exact same number of smokers all dropped dead at the exact same time. People are afraid of sharks and spiders, not obesity and distracted driving.\n\nI think the same thing is happening with Trump's scandals. Nebulous meetings where they discussed sanctions and maybe Trump is soft on Russia because of it and maybe bank shares were involved? Too complicated for most people to really be mad about, even though it seems the President is fundamentally not working for the interests of the USA. But diddling a porn star while married? Easy. Dismissing a bunch of brown countries while wishing for more immigration from one of the whitest on earth? Easy. ",
"Obama is trying his hardest for his spying scandal to stay under wraps. He never thought trump would win. This is awesome. \n\nHollywood is loosing its influence. The corruption in the cia is coming out. The FBI agents that were working for bribes from the Clinton foundation. I should buy stocks in popcorn. This is gonna get good.",
"San Francisco is disgusting. Homeless, poverty, crime..sadly a shithole itself. Ironic isn’t it ",
"They just see an opportunity to “stick it to drumpf” and then the upvote brigade begins. You and I both know Trump said nothing too out of line but thanks to the media and the sheeple mindset anything Donald trump does that can be twisted in any bad way is heavily publicized here and through other media. I go out with my buddies and I’m way less politically correct than Donald trump so I don’t care. These kids are a bunch of whiny 20 year olds that don’t know how to even pay a mortgage. As Trump would say, “SAD!”",
"lol that you think business owners let homeless use their bathrooms. Ever notice the signs that say restrooms are for paying guests only? (outside of gas stations, of course) \n\nHomeless shelters when they can, otherwise, whatever hole/bag/corner is near, but not too near tent city. ",
"Right on Valentine’s Day. You know, so I can start the year off with a bang.",
"I love San Francisco! ",
"No if only every neckbeard ranting about 'freeze peach' on subreddit got this concept everything would be better",
"My people were from the worst shithole in Europe. Corrupt government and tyranny, no human rights, and people were starving. Nobody wanted these people, they were viewed as \"less than human\".\nIt's called \"Ireland\".",
"My argument never was about vulgarity, and I don't agree with the belief that immigrants do not have something valuable to provide us simply by nature of the conditions of their country of origin. I have an especially difficult time believing that when the poverty and instability of these shithole regions is arguably a direct result of the interference of the US and other countries. We'll call them shitholes when we want to distance ourselves from them but, oh boy, when we need us some tiny fingers or disposable bodies for unrestricted and abusive labor, we sure do love these countries. Love them even more when they have rare minerals to help build our countries up higher and higher. \n\nI don't give a fuck if he said a no-no word, my problem with him isn't puritanical. My problem is the president sees these countries as shitholes but sees North Korea (a shithole, too) as a rival. My problem is that the president doesn't believe my friends who came from Burkina Faso and Haiti to study engineering are desirable immigrants. My problem is that the president of the United States continues to propose thinly veiled racism as my country's public policy.",
"No, but you profit.",
"Too much! If this is Obama ..., but he is the president, ",
"Troll",
"And they shouldn’t either.",
"So you’re telling me a sovereign country of over 200 years doesn’t know how to rebuild after an earthquake? Hmmm",
"Is there rhythmic clapping, just like the kids do with that emoji on Twitter? ",
"I'd say that's New York, for graffiti. ",
"Would you say Russia is a shithole?",
"Its one thing calling them shitholes. It another to say “we dont want immigrants from shithole countries”. ",
"Play soul sister, well, mister mister.",
"Lol virtue signalling",
"Did he obtain the gun legally or illegally? Just wondering.",
"The_donald brigades the controversial comments because they don't have the numbers to brigade the top comments . Kinda sad actually ",
"Depending on he place yes. And I would assume a federal building would need permits\n\nhttp://cdm.link/2009/11/visual-attacks-guerilla-projection-safety-and-the-law-2/",
"Good point. Quickly, has been, both more accurate ",
"The solution is to provide them resources to get on their feet. Money for clothes, places to shower, free skills training for work, job placement. Free treatment and help for drug addiction. Mental health access. You know, all the stuff available through DPSS and county funded programs like GROW. The exact resources I used to overcome severe depression, addiction, and homelessness. Free of charge. \n\nAnd you don't arrest homeless people, ive never been arrested for being homeless. Ive been asked to leave an area cause I was impeding foot traffic or wasn't welcome but its not hard to find a place to sleep. The fact is SF did everything to cause this situation. ",
"Sounds an awful lot like Oakland to me ",
"What the hell are you smoking?\n\nMost people the world over don't like Trump. \n\nBots are actually a large part of his supporters, especially on Twitter.\n\nthe_donald is full of russian trolls.\n\nI think you've got things mixed up.",
"Lmao you don't have a single fact in your counter point, you were probabaly the kid who just said NUH UH when someone told them something they didnt like, don't worry, reality will never set in, I promise ",
"I don't understand, who gave it away? You mean when settlers stole the land? Who welcomed it? The mass rape genocide and incarceration of the native Americans wasn't \"Welcomed\" Fool. ",
"If your life is so shitty, why are you not doing anything to fix it, instead arguing at the behest of propagandists over something which has no negative effect on you life? ",
"February 30th. ",
"Not this one",
"Okay?",
"I appreciate your research and comment but there's no need to call me a child. For example I didn't call you a dumb fuck for believing a word that comes out of that mouth :) \n\nI hate that you'll never stop loving this fool and I hate that I'll never stop hating him. We can argue and none of it matter. Politicians shouldn't be adored blindly. I never supported Obama like that. \n\nI don't need to be right. I need truth and you'll find a link and a map to support your \"side\" and I'll find an article and a picture that support my view. But there's no real consensus. I hate the them vs us mentality it's counter productive. But that's politics. \n\nI enjoy results, fuck Isis. Trump seems to have let the chains off of the military so I'll be cautiously optimistic. I wont jizz my pants like how his sycophants do. \n\n",
"> It'll be impeachment\n\nSURELY THIS TIME WE'LL GETTEM GUYS AMIRITE ",
"Yep, it’s the city so terrible that people would line up to pay $3200 a month to live there.\n\nHonestly, seeing SF for the first time made me realize how much I’d been lied to about it. I grew up in a small Missouri city, listening to Rush et al, and had a pretty good idea about SF’s postapocalyptic hellscape. Then I had a business trip out here and found out that it was a lovely place with wonderful quality of life, and added that to the list of things I had been lied to about:\n\n-\tRock music is evil\n-\tDemocrats hate America\n-\tThe Earth is young\n-\tEtc.\n\nYeah, it might smell like pee sometimes. And even smelling like pee, I’d still rather live here than anywhere else because the rest of the experience is so much nicer that I’m willing to put up with it.",
"But still your President......MAGA!!!",
"Yeah but not all of Oakland is riddled with crime. Some parts are quite nice. ",
"I concur. I know 4 year olds that are more diplomatically skilled than Trump.",
"I did just that, and found articles highlighting SF bussing away homeless people. Seems like another issue the city could focus on instead of virtue signaling.",
"Legally.. Haha. What a joke. Trying to police the immigration into a country stolen from inhabitants who were raped and murdered en mass by immigrants from other countries. ",
"As someone who has had to work with packages from AP, ABC, FOX, and CBS...they are not as unbiased as you think. In my experience the least biased are small market local news because they cannot afford to lose viewers or the station will go under. Also in my experience, a majority of reporters are unbiased unless it is about politics or Hardline issues. But the producers, those who write scripts for anchors, tend to be the worst as they have the ability to change a few words and thus the meaning of the whole story.\n\nI have seen executive producers and general managers threaten to fire producers because their writing was blatantly biased and one sided.\n\nA perfect example is the recent mudslides in Cali. There was a video of a car going down a street being pushed by mud. ABC said the car was just swept away. CBS said the driver was trying to outrun it the wave. One or neither might be correct but they put information in that changes the story.\n\nSource: my years working in local broadcasting with people in those positions",
"Triggered.",
"You seriously need to get out of your echo chamber every once in a while ",
"I got banned from /r/conservative within 12 minutes for posting 'facts' that were uncomfortable. Also, the advances against Isis in Iraq and Syria have way more to do with the Kurds and Russia than the US. Also, the Daily Mail, really? \n",
"You suck at sarcasm.",
"Why do you hate America?",
"I don't see how Bristol compares to New York when it comes to street art, coming from someone who grew up within 15 miles of Bristol. New York graf is on a whole nother level. ",
"The porn Star said it’s false, as well as President Trump, and the lawyer who was supposedly involved. Apparently there is a person “close to the matter” who is their source. Definitely not facts. More fake news. ",
"You know John Adams signed the Alien and Sedition Acts right? You might want to do some research before you spew your fantasy perception of what a president is or should be. \nhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts \n\nBy the way, do you have any evidence of him being a \"vindictive, cruel, heartless, racist...\" or are you just parroting some democratic PAC email you subscribe to?",
"No, we shouldn’t make it a requirement. Because that would be unconstitutional. Once you’re an American citizen, you can do whatever the hell you want. My point wasn’t that all immigrants are going to be incredibly successful in the 0th and 1st generation. I was refuting the thesis that they are all a burden on society. ",
"Unfortunately, we are trying to get these shithole countries to work with us. Calling them shitholes isn't really good for that. Unless you are an executive who always insults the companies of people who you want to make a deal with, and it has always worked, I expect you to agree with me. That being said, yes, calling them a shithole is DEFINITELY not the biggest fish to fry here.",
"Well egotistical would imply that I am being overlay self-centred and don't think that is fair presumption to make from my reply.\n\n>genius political move\n\nJust sounds a little cunty. But what ever floats peoples boats.",
"Yeah, I saw that. It’s liberalism gone wild. It’s like an aggressive dog that broke free from its runner. ",
"If we never existed we would never have to die",
"Not all of Oakland is violent. There's a lot of areas that are actually really nice. ",
"Their's nothing to troll about! Unemployment is down! Our jobs are back! ",
"How mature and thoughtful ",
"Back up, if you don't believe Trump is a good president, you're a liberal? You have zero clue how politics works.",
"Ugh. That's pretty awful but also completely unsurprising. I'm sure there was a smallish (but very loud, so they seem bigger) segment who never wavered for an instant. The T_D types who treat him like an Emperor-God who can do no wrong. They rationalize by saying he's playing 5-D chess.. or cosmic checkers.. or whateverthefuk. We little folk don't have big enough brains to wrap around his intricate genius ploys.\n\n(Also, not that it really matters but it wasn't me who downvoted you. I always appreciate civil discussion).\n",
"Too bad they banned plastic bags. Now people can't shit in them. ",
"Since when is using tact \"fakeness\"? You can describe the same thing either with some dignity, or talk like an uneducated trailer dweller. Apparently you like a president that is so dumb he is only capable of the latter. ",
"Shithole California",
"> Which respected publication did you work for that banned anonymous sources for investigative journalism?\n\n\nThat’s what I was curious about haha. ",
"He didn't even fucking say it. \n \n\nYou guys are so desperate it's not even enjoyable anymore. Your own news stations have already refuted this lmao.",
"Those statistics do not show intent. It is much much harder for a haitian to have a chance to move to norway than to the states.\n\nBut my point is how ridiculous that question is...the great majority of people would rather stay in their own country because, with all it's problems, it is still home. The thing is this stupid american idea the they're the greatest thing that ever happened to the world. The US is a very appealling country, I would love to visit someday, but I wouldn't live there if you payed me to.",
"Please keep your logic out of Reddit, the premier liberal echo chamber. :) Only say stuff if you agree with the Left's narrative and if you don't, enjoy the downvotes, good sir.",
"And the evidence that a Clinton adminstration was opposed to net neutrality is.... What exactly?\n\nSo far as I'm aware, Clinton was pro-net neutrality and she publicly opposed it during the campaign and when it was voted on last month.",
"> Ever notice the signs that say restrooms are for paying guests only? \n\nWe don't do that here. We are not inclined to be pretentious, vile human beings that would denie a person the use of a bathroom. ",
"If Trump said he didn't then it's more evidence to say he did. ",
"Oh yah we're super fucked out here, definitely don't move here and buy property.",
"Yep.",
"Again, so brave. ",
"My point again ^^",
"Year of the Shittywok",
"How can the right expect anyone to take their (loud, constant) insistence of moral superiority seriously if they act exactly like they claim their nemesis does?",
"Both ",
"Lol @ patriot. ",
"You know San Francisco and and the deep south red states have just one difference....ideology. ",
"Sorry, you're right I meant studio not 1 bedroom. Yes, you are right, it is about as expensive as vancouver. But I am also just 20 so i didnt quite realize that I was talking about a studio apartment when I said 1 bedroom because I never really knew what studio referred to. And I guess after some more research, its not quite accurate. I thought it sounded about right but most studio aparments for rent currently are more like 2500. Still, 2500/mo is not cheap.",
"Let's not lose the focal point of this picture. The shithole Lexus driving with the high beam on!",
"Ill lay it out for you cause its confusing you. The OP said \"no one but a liberal heard it\". This was demonstrated to be false. Just because you don't like Trump doesn't make you liberal because political ideology isn't changed by who you like. Thus Lindsey Graham the republican politician is not a liberal, heard Trump, proving OP wrong.",
"And I think every city in the entire country of India",
"He's not wrong tho",
"Oh okay, so you're from a small town, not a city.",
"No one would. They are shithole countries. ",
"Yes.",
"Ahaha take that libruhls. Two wrongs make a \"lets forget about this incident please\" ",
"You can't reason with these children, they're stuck in the hivemind that only knows how to echo MSM.",
"Does this mean they can say “shithole” on TV? ",
"I know, it was a joke. ",
"?????",
"But can you go and have a chat while they produce their latest piece?",
"I know, isn't it great?",
"Why are red states so much poorer than blue states? ",
"> The witch-hunt is strong for Trump\n\nI didn't vote for him either, but you're 100% spot on. I kinda feel bad for the guy. Even though he won the election (electoral college, how it actually works), the default, accepted position is that he sucks, is evil, and deserves nothing but hate.\n\nCome on, people, you're allowed to disagree with him, but this circle jerk is so damn old. Just drop it, and prepare for the election later this year. That can potentially get results that will prevent Trump from doing things you don't like.",
"It's the frog Muppet that used to date Ms Piggy.",
"Need a safe space? ",
"Easy to apply and easy to take down when it gets old. ",
"r/iam14andthisisdeep",
"Saying that Haitian people are all eating “mud-cookies” is fucking racist. ",
"If these countries all these illegals are coming from to America are not \"Shitholes\" then all these illegals can go back to them and apply to America the legal way, correct?",
"Your semantic argument there is weak mate, try again. And also, the \"whataboutism\" in this case is perfectly valid since this is blatantly (to anyone who can see through the propaganda) a case of artificial outrage further inflated by the media to achieve a desired result, and to prove that, if this *was* such a big deal the same amount of outrage should have been applied to Obama when he said that Libya was a shitshow.",
"Nah and that's why there's a big difference between the two. Where I'm from you would be shunned if you told a writer you did Street art.",
"Or I subscribe to the same sentiment. ",
"I never claimed I don't have time to fuck around. I just don't waste time trying to prove anything to your type. And yes, I discriminate against religious.\n\nAnd no one needs to attack your character. You are a Trump supporter. You don't have a character. You simply follow whatever your leader says. \n\nDo you even have anything that you don't agree with Trump? \n\n",
"Does this mean the bullshit emojis with the little fly buzzing above will be all the rage for 2018?",
"I’ve pretty much unplugged from the media. Deleted my “news” apps, go for a walk instead of watching nightly news and deleted my Facebook. Can’t handle it. \n\nPresident Trump gives a thumbs up and fake news tells me why that’s supposedly racist. ",
":) Amen brother (or sister) - If it makes it better, i love my children, i'm sorry, i didn't mean that as an insult.\n\nYour comment is exactly how this conversation should be going, we can all agree that a better economy, and a defeated ISIS is good for everyone. . .the sheer emotional opposition to even these things is what my original comment in the thread took issue with.\n\nPoliticians should not be adored blindly . . for sure . . neither should they (or anyone) be vilified to the level that's happening recently (without a fair, balanced acknowledgement of all the good things as well)\n\nIn the end, one thing that many people don't seem to get is that people who support Trump don't just do it blindly. . it's what he represents (I'll leave it to you to interpret if what he stands for is good or bad)\n\nAgain, i apologize if that was out of line. . i hope you have a great weekend.",
"This picture must be a couple years old - Obama’s not president anymore. ",
"Haha nice as they just helped a shithole non citizen get away with murder on a American citizen. Nuke San Francisco 1000 times.... using nothing but these dope lunar rhymes. ",
"Some cities have pilot programs where they \"hire\" homeless to do things such as clean up the city. I think this is far better than city workers, and gives them a chance to actually get in the mind set of they can work. Cheaper and more productive.\n\nSyringe exchanges also help with the syringe litter problem, in addition to lowering disease transmission.\n\n> Homeless people can sleep in parks, in fucking bushes. In parking structures, behind dumpsters.\n\nStill we are just pushing them from one place to another without addressing the real problem. There was a large encampment in a green area in SJ, they had a major issue with sanitation, fires and all sorts of things associated with a homeless encampment. The city went in and bulldozed the place. Sure it had to be done, but where are they going to go now?\n\n> how about tell them take advantage of the resources available\n\nThats the thing, we need more resources that help them get out of the problem. We also have to realise that many are not going to take advantage of those resources. For some its drug addiction, they don't need to be locked up, they need harm reduction and a chance for rehabilitation when they are ready. For others its mental illness, they need treatment too.\n\nJust pushing them from one place to another does nothing",
"A mature response",
"I’d like to point out that 3k In Canadian dollars is ~$2400 USD. So in the example you responded to, a $3200 one bedroom apartment would cost $3984 Canadian dollars. \n\nEither way it is mind boggling expensive. I had a large fully furnished one bedroom in Seattle for $2400, which I split with my boyfriend, and I was still blown away by that rate. ",
"Please, do not sort by controversial here. Just leave. It's not going to improve your life to look at these comments.",
"yeah, I guess that was rather fucked, ill fix it",
"Me too. I'm just saying it's funny how the the same thing can be said twice and received radically differently.",
"Thank you. im always raging about how people are okay with trumps behavior. you say \"the majority of the country isnt\", but i dont see anything of it. even if he starts a nuclear war, you would just sit there and watch. beeing silent in your room, wont change anything. you need to give your opinion a voice, with actions like this one. ",
"It’s okay to be white.",
"Wish I could upvote this twice",
"sauce?",
"[was surprisingly easy to find](https://gfycat.com/SelfassuredRigidAoudad). ",
"Correct , then these illegals can go back to their beautiful countries and apply the legal way and enjoy themselves while they are waiting. Just think of it as a vacation on a beautiful beach. ",
"I haven't heard that. Source? ",
"LOL nah, bro, I'm just seeing how many times you will keep replying after you said you were done. You're def. special. ",
"It’s called supply & demand. If the demand were to go up on bread then the price of bread would go up. I work for an oil company, we don’t set the price, the market does, just as with any other commodity. ",
"Yes because I totally said any of those things?\n\nBut... I sure don’t see how I should be bothered by this language on a wall but also be okay with the President of our country saying the same words.\n\nAnd the name calling was not necessary.",
"It's funny how people react when the imformation doesn't fit their narrative. ",
"Yet you failed to prove what “type” I am in your attempt to derail the topic\n\nNot only that you have proved nothing at all!\n\nThis isn’t about what I do or do not believe, this is about you proving your point. You have nothing clearly.",
"TIL:\n\nA country who's inception began with the genocide of the natural inhabitants of that land by unwanted imigrants, that was then built on the common ideal that immigrants from around the world can unite for a more prosperous future, is no longer accepting immigrants.",
"It’s California, who cares?",
"Yup, I sort of don't like how streeet art is suddenly acceptable just because the middle classes think Banksy is a clever little man. ",
"I own a news station? Damn, which one?",
"Love how both these cities have raging heroin problems ",
"And safety for illegal immigrants who kill innocent women, because ya know, it's every day people find guns, of a federal officer, just lying around under benches. /sssss",
"#I crossposted this at r/PolPics. \nI am not a bot, just a humble meme farmer working 12 hours a day",
"It's not that the president said a \"bad thing\" that's an extreme watering down of the situation. You've got someone that is representing the US on a world stage, and whose language affects trade deals, diplomacy with other countries, etc. They are \"just words\" but with real consequences.",
"take your pick:\n\nhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=san+francisco+homeless+bus+ticket",
">I will never forget the day that Trump made the left spend 24 plus hours saying how beautiful and successful the shithole countries are, thus negating their argument that illegals can't go home because their home country is a shithole.\n\nI will never forget the day that Trump made the Right spend 24 plus hours saying how beautiful and successful Norway is, a country they used to deride as a Communist hellhole for its universal healthcare, socialist government programs and nanny-state tactics.",
"Those San Franciscans are so edgy.",
"Right on, friend.",
"Yes, we vote to expand (er \"renew\") stuff all the time. Especially survellience. \n\nYou just make different mouth noises to call it something else. \nSame actions. Different mouth noises. \n\nAt the end of the day, surveillance is increasing, not decreasing. Call it whatever you want or get into whatever semantics argument you want. \n\nGrowth = expansion. ",
"",
"I would think there would be a legal means. Best I can think of though would be harassment and that may be up to courts to decide... ",
"Lol ok",
"Not really. I’m satisfied. ",
"So there’s also politic issues in UK?",
"Doesn't change that we have a third world dictator running this country. I'm a first gen immigrant so I can compare. The lack of empathy and the focus on greed/selfishness mostly from the GOP and the failure on the democrats to respond forcefully is going to ruin this country. Trump is a symptom of a much larger problem. ",
"My point^^",
"",
"As for the rest of this trash:\n\n-Republicans routinely whine about the cost of social safety net programs like SCHIP, but SCHIP is nowhere near as expensive as the tax cut over the same time horizon. So which is it? Is the deficit important or is it window dressing for partisan hackery?\n\n-In 7 years most Americans will have less money in their pockets in a direct transfer to the wealthy\n\n-Theres nothing wrong with thinking the country is worse off because Trump won. If I'm a DREAMer, or a transgender soldier, or a child fleeing genocide, or someone who cares about the impact of climate change, or someone who will buy insurance on the Obamacare exchange in a year (or just a person with non-Employer sponsored health insurance in general), or a person making less than $200,000 a year 7 years from now, or a racial minority in a city with a racist police department, or a rich person in a blue state, or a minority who likes to vote and wants others to vote too, or any other number of people who the White House and Republican party has singled out, America is a much worse place.\n\n-There were already rigorous protocols for background investigations into immigrants from the Muslim ban countries, Trump just made it even harder to be racist and please his Islamophobic base.\n\nStop repeating Fox and Friends lies, everyone is tired of them.",
"> Designed not to be preserved? \n\nYes. ",
"I mean the constitution says you get tried by a jury of your peers. Is that only supposed to apply when you agree with the outcome? ",
"Oh, poor little oppressed Trump supporter. How many times can I say this before you understand? Or are you even capable of understanding? *I'm not trying to prove anything to you.* You are not worth the time and effort to put forward logical arguments. You are not capable of accepting any type of proof or logic, so I'm not wasting any of those on you.\n\nNow enough with your \"proof\" talk. If you were capable of understanding any of those, you wouldn't be a Trump supporter.",
"The quotes make it even better! \"President \" is exactly what trump is.",
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I grew up in a small town myself. There were a few homeless people around and everyone knew them by name and knew they were harmless, so most business owners would act like you describe.\n\nIn a big city with a significant homeless population you just can't know those things, so it's extremely unlikely that businesses would generally accommodate homeless people. That's an extraordinary claim, for which I'd want to see at least *some* evidence before taking it at face value.",
"Um no. While he did say hatiti is a shithole. Like past presidents have called other countries. Pretty sure he wasn't standing there jus screaming shithole",
"Look at the other guys link or even just google it. \n\nYes there is also the mild climate thing, hell if I was homeless I would probably want to be somewhere in the bay area, not too hot not to cold.\n\nIn the end what are we going to do? Lock them up in private prisons, like many states do in the middle?",
"A daily newspaper that prided itself in the fact that we didn’t want to publish anonymous sources. And no, they are not a “key facet of investigative journalism.” If you have sources that won’t go on the record, that’s fine. But then you make them point you to documents, emails, pictures, anything that will prove what they are saying. If your only way of proving something is an anonymous source with no evidence to back up what they’re saying, then you simply don’t have a source. \n\nI wrote some pretty major stories at one point in my career. But the stuff that I sourced and printed only scratched the surface of what I was told had happened. The problem was I couldn’t PROVE most of the stuff that I was being told because there were no witnesses, no documents, no emails. Nothing. It was all hearsay and rumor. The stories still ended up being huge in our community and state, but would have been devastating to many people had 100% of what I was being told proven. And yes, I will admit I wish it was all true because of how huge it would have been. I concluded at the end that some of it probably happened but most of it was indeed rumor and hearsay. And I wasn’t going to risk my career to print rumor and hearsay in a story that was already very big. I wanted it to be completely sourced and accurate.\n\nThe problem is the media today are in such a rush to make Trump look like an idiot, they will run with anything from any source without taking the literal minutes it would take to fact check and source it. I worked with people who were like that and the sad thing is some of them moved up fast because they made waves with the public. I hate to say this, but media is a failing industry with much less talent than it has ever had in human history. And sadly our society is what pays the price on the end. ",
"Hey now! That's an insult to shitholes.",
"So...you're saying it's a bad idea to just let foreigners in then huh? ",
"“Barely functional” - okay, a little hyperbolic \n\n“Man baby” - sorry, no amount of any kind of argument against this statement will convince me he’s *not* an immature child with a chip on his shoulder. \n\n“Luckily flops into every beneficial situation” - okay first, hahahahahahahahahaha. Crediting that man with doing *anything* “luckily” is discounting what a snake he’s been in the business world for decades now. What his supporters see as luck, actually educated human beings call “backroom deals by someone who thinks he’s much smarter than he is, but now decades of doing business with baddies is catching up to him and his family and once you have the world’s eyes on you, it becomes a lot harder to cover it all up.” \n\nMake no mistake, that man is not “lucky” and he has zero idea of what it looks like to *actually* be a successful and revered human being. So he tried to create it. What we are seeing is the fallout of that endeavor. Sure, he’s famous, and he’s probably even “rich” - but none of that makes an ideal businessman *or* president, and the dumpster fire we’ve witnessed for the last year is only going to get worse until it implodes on itself. ",
"What I mean is they likely had next to zero knowledge on guns and could be convinced by a good defense. ",
"Who doesn’t like paying less taxes? Death and taxes are the only two things we’re guaranteed in this life, and I could do with less taxes. I’m not even 30 yet and the government takes like 20-30% of my check between SS and taxes, you can’t tell me there’s anyone who actually enjoys that. Heck if they’re going to tax us that much then give me a questionnaire where I can check the boxes of what govt. agencies or charities I want my cash to go to. I’d be much more inclined if I knew my taxes were going to medical research for Cancer and Alzheimer’s and our troops than to programs that I don’t support. ",
"Never said anything about their race being the issue. But you for some reason thought that might be the case. ",
"What the hell are you talking about kid?",
"What did he do that was racist?",
"3",
"Is it still like that? I don't care about \"were's\" I care about NOW. If 20 years down the line African countries begin to modernize and become less corrupt and shitty, then I won't mind people from there coming to this country. Until then, wait in line. ",
"Solid thought process. ",
"> I’m satisfied. \n\n\nThat says a lot about you, none of it good, however.\n\nDid you even bother to look at the list before you hit send?\n\nI hope not, for your sake. ",
"You’re missing my (undeniably vague) point. The comment about trump standing up and screaming is underrated, but the story of him and his ignorant remarks is over exaggerated. So....the comment of he story is both underrated and over exaggerated. ",
"So we have allegations from one person that this happened and we're already 100% dead set it was true.\n\nWould be a shitty (lol) thing to say if it were but why does everyone jump to conclusions these days without any evidence?",
"“Shithole” country was the word you were looking for. The United States of America is now a shithole country. 1/3 of these inbred retards still support Trump. ",
"> The thing is this stupid american idea the they're the greatest thing that ever happened to the world.\n\nIt's been the biggest destination for immigrants for over 100 years for a reason..",
"I stopped reading after that nonsense. Have a good one.",
"And what’s a VHS, Stefon? ",
"What a lazy shit argument you made. “Most people hate him, but some people don’t, so you’re wrong!”\n\nAlso you claim to be an independent who only joined the “Trump train” after you saw the “bullshit narrative” against him. May I ask what about it is bullshit? That he’s unqualified? That he barely does his job and goes on golfing trips constantly? That he speaks like a disabled third grader and often makes tweets and speeches that make literally zero sense? These are all objective facts that you can see independently and not have to be “told” through the media. Of course, this doesn’t matter to mindless cunts like you because you revel in being against the mainstream narrative no matter what it is because it makes you feel smarter to do so.",
"Thx for your opinion on taxes. \n\nI'm not trying to get into a debate about taxes. That's just one example of how certain labels like \"temporary\" and \"renewal\" turn into \"permanent\" for all practical purposes. ",
"Your platform to disrespect the president ",
"Pretty common thing in India\n\nhttp://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/daily-waste-indias-urban-streets-9364812",
"People were tired of the same fake ass bullshit from their politicians and finally got what they wanted. Some people like it, others are highly offended. I'm not saying what is right or better, just that people have been tired of the same BS from their politicians for years.",
"I think a bit of historical context might be in play though.\n\nMy point that he had a better moral compass than Trump stands, although I could have chosen Joseph Stalin and still been right.",
"Tell that to the coal miners Trump lied to. ",
"Jayden Smith?",
"But when need Meryl Streep and the like to tell us how and what to think! They're the voice of reason!! /s",
"\"whats so inherently wrong about labeling much of Africa or Haiti as complete shitholes i\"\n\nIf you have to ask....",
"Wut??",
"“Ideal for small hands”\n\nThey don’t miss the fine print",
"Well like umm Kay. Kool lol",
"Oh, i'm sorry, i'm not subscribed to that sub :) You're welcome to post to r/AskThe_Donald anytime (Sincere invite here, a lot of people who support Trump aren't traditional conservatives. . . there may be a lot we agree on with each other than you realize :) )\n\nThe advances against ISIS were because the new administration changed the rules of engagement, making it easier for the military to take calls in the field and relaxing a lot of unnecessary authorization requests that were too restrictive. There's a lot of material out there from interviews with Generals to comments by Jim Mattis to this effect . . .we're now pursuing an aggressive policy of killing the monsters of ISIS instead of surrounding them and letting them flee like earlier. If you look it up, you'll notice that one of the first acts of the Trump administration was to pull assistance to the \"Syrian resistance\" since it turned out, elements of the old administration supplied heavy arms and supplies to factions in the region that either ended up with ISIS eventually or [directly armed ISIS themselves](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2017/05/us-military-admits-failures-to-monitor-over-1-billion-worth-of-arms-transfers/)\n\nAlso, here's something we both agree on - the Daily Mail is a crappy tabloid :) You're someone who can look this up . . . look into the rabbit hole that was the ISIS financial machine . . . at its peak, those bastards controlled vast swathes of Syria and thus all the natural resources and production facilities that area contained . . oil fields, minerals, human hostages, slave trades, you name it. It was a very well organized machine that made a few Billion dollars a year :( Sad, but true. . . they're almost a footnote in history. That's a good thing, no ?",
"LOL. The rationalization of people who voted for Trump never ceases to put a smile on my face. Like if my dog destroys a pillow and is sitting there in all her glory looking up at me grinning... I want to be mad, but it’s so silly I end up smiling.",
"My point again ^^",
"Because the left fight for those who are less fortunate and less privileged while trump and the GOP fight for the elite white males? What trump said isn't the problem, it's what the message conveys, which is a culmination of the extremely bigoted, sexiest, classist thoughts he's had in the past 20 years. Do you even know what morality is? Calling someone a bad word is hardly immoral. It's the actions that count.",
"I’m not a liberal. You do have a good point ",
"One, that is way too conveluted of a process to save yourself from a bad leader.\n\nTwo, why in the fuck would you use a vice president of an impeached president? an entire re election is the only thing that would make sense there.",
"Silicon valley is the only reason they are wealthy. Otherwise it's a shit state full of lunatics.",
"Renewal isn’t growth nor expansion. You’re the one with the silly word play to try and make it seem like it’s something it’s not. If only Reddit knew half the provisions on the senate floor on a daily basis were voted to be renewed perhaps they wouldn’t be so fooled by your comment.\n\nI don’t know what world you come from where not terminating something means that program is “growing or expanding”.",
"You mean comedy central \"news\" show isn't really being 100% truthful in what they say?!?!?",
"Two days ago we were talking about the Fusion GPS testimony transcript. Yesterday we were talking about shithole. I think Trump was just doing a diversion.\n\nDon't get me wrong, I agree with your sentiment, but I do think there is some diversion going on here.",
"Yup, and the only thing burning to the ground was that forrest and wildfire started by other people not named Trump. \n\nGo Figure!",
"Who knows they might build a better country! Manifest destiny 2.0! ...Ohh i see,, Now that you risk being affected it's important. \n\nI hate that the conversation takes place from a starting point that doesn't acknowledge this country was stolen. People lived and ate fat when they invited themselves over here and are now shutting the door behind them and have the crazy notion to call it their country. ",
"After being deported multiple times, fuck no.",
"I voted for Trump and he is doing exactly what he promised to do. You may not like it. But I do. ",
"4",
"I confess to not knowing so much about Adams, other than his anti-slavery stance so I (wrongly?) assumed he had a good moral compass.\n\nThat said, here have been some good, well intentioned presidents, and comparing their class and dignity to this current president is quite the juxtapsoition.",
"Who let you out of your safe space? Get back to T_D. \n\nAn actual Pet Rock^tm would be better than the buffoon we have currently. ",
"She was also super pro natural gas and fracking (literally like the worst thing for our environment right now, as it spews gases into the atmosphere and creates earthquakes)..But fuck that Trump guy for saying the same thing as everyone applauded hilldog.",
"No. He doesn't represent me. To be frank, he doesn't represent YOU either.",
"Well not so in Bristol. Although people will call you a hipster so I suppose that’s worse. ",
"Alright. I admit I was wrong ",
"Whataboutism. No one's talking about LBJ. If Trump does a bad thing we can all just say \"hey this one guy did it 50 years ago and didn't get in trouble, so let him go\". Have you researched trumps history? While Bill Clinton got impeached for a blow job, Trump has been unfaithful with his wife for god knows how long and has loads of women accusing him of sexual misconduct. This isn't fake news, he's admitted it",
"2 Priuses. (Prii?) San Fransisco confirmed",
"man these goebbel media puppets are everywhere, believing the brainwashing, i mean how dumb do you have to be? people like this loser wanted a career criminal office, you know that one that sex traffics haitains, the one that sold 20% tax payer funded uranium to russia for 300million, and she sold missile tech to china, now all of a sudden north korea has missiles, hmmm, keep being mad that the communist media is making fools of u losers, rileying you up so you can get a communist president in like osama so we can continue the centralized government plan and kill more brown people in a 20 year war, smart, keep voting for your debt bondage like good useful idiots, \"if voting mattered they wouldnt let us do it at all\"- twain, the best slaves think they are free, you people are pathetic",
"Thanks, since you live in SF, and I'm stoned, I wanted to share a hole in the wall place that makes the best freaking wrap which if I wasn't too fade I would be going to get at lunch today. Its worth the bridge toll! Not to far across the gate is Davey Jones deli, and no matter if you are vegan or eat meat its amazing, its kind of a hole in the wall place I doubt many people know about. Get the 'BASTARDOH' its a wrap with a bunch of really good veggies and pulled pork ('vulcan' if you don't eat meat, same thing minus the meat). It's kind of expensive, but worth it. I have no connection to the place, just stoned and have the munchies.\n\n\nhttp://www.daveyjonesdeli.com/menu/",
"If she didn't pull out of the Paris agreement, she'd look like a giant hypocrite. \"We need to save the planet and climate! Let's also go full steam ahead on fracking!!\"",
"It's not about what was done, it's about who did that thing.",
"Objectivly. Ironic as 'objectivism' is a philosophy catalyzing shitholeishness. ",
"Well for one thing I didn't vote this time, But please enlighten. What is there to be mad about? Cereal,like supper cereal? Why the outrage over a comment that every president makes?",
"Exactly! Most these little snowflake Redditor's probably have said worse than \"shithole\" or \"grab em by the pussy\" but want to act all high and mighty because they realize Trump acts like most of them do and they don't like it haha. It's ok though, let's just sit back, grab a 6-pack and watch America become great again! ",
"Oof",
"I don’t think calling a country whose residents consistently lynch people for witchcraft and homosexuality a shithole is really up for debate. ",
"I mean I never heard about it but I'm not American and I kinda avoid any news, so far as filtering r/news from r/all.",
"Nah, of course I think they can be civilized. Just a hell of a lot of them aren't. And you're right, this country was built on the back of slavery, especially in its early years. ",
"I mean our president is racist. Just let that sink in for a moment. The leader of the free world has a distaste for immigrants and Muslims...",
"You're are absolutely right. The term third world country has absolutely no meaning to anyone but filthy racists and these countries are all stunning and brave. I'm sorry. Please don't take my job.",
"My point ^",
"Holy shit I’m there.",
"It is not a whattaboutism. Jesus is that term overused. The guy is saying we’ve never had a president act in this manner and it’s simply not true. I was providing evidence to the contrary. Sorry that evidence is now considered a “whattaboutism”",
"Still president",
"People that were literally there said that he never said it: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dick-durbin-refutes-trump-says-he-did-use-the-word-shitholes-repeatedly/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=46898290\n\nBut hey, why listen to people that were there in the meeting when you have \"anonoynous sources\" and \"people familiar with this line of thinking\" ",
"Lol you mention my state by name. Not even the commies can deny us.",
"Not for a reason...for multiple reasons, I think the biggest one was that it WAS a welcoming country. That has changed radically since Trump was ellected. The US has advertised it self as an immigrant country (like no other country has) for over 100 years. Suddenly one of the most respected countries for a century is the laughing stock weekly. Suddenly, a position that was respected by EVERYONE is unwelcome by it's closest standing ally. There was a sence that the US ran the world, now everyone thinks you are ran by Russia. Things that were unacceptable to any onther US president are shrugged off by this dispickable person who \"runs\" your country. \n\nDo you not realize that the argument you yourself are using (greatest immigration country), the thing that made you great, is exactly what your president is combating?! It's insane how anyone can defend trump in anyway.",
"https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dick-durbin-refutes-trump-says-he-did-use-the-word-shitholes-repeatedly/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=46898290\n\nThis one?^ ",
"Come on, not even I would want to move here from Norway. I didn't say I think they want to.",
"Calling someone a troll has become a way too popular way of dismissing people when you’re wrong. Stop",
"lol I just painstakingly detailed how it IS expansion and you respond by essentially saying \"Nu-uh!\".\n\n\nI'm talking about US politics. Maybe it's different in Canada, the \"world\" this is true in is the US world, Opiniatied Canadian. ",
"1. You make a conclusion with no reasons to back it up. You refuse to submit proof. That’s not how a logical statement works. \n\n2. You attempt to attack my religion instead of proving yourself which isn’t logical and is very bigoted.\n\n3. You then go through my post history to character assassinate me instead of using logic\n\n4. You keep trying to label me as some sort of type that won’t respond to logic yet your actions this far have shown nothing but bigotry and irrational attacks on me.\n\n\nI can only conclude you don’t know what logic is and thus your statement is either false or you’re not including yourself among those logical people.",
"It’s the truth though. Saying they’re beautiful, industrious places would be an outright lie. He’s crass, but he speaks like much of the population. I’d be as bold to say Haiti and Africa are shit in mixed company. ",
"Your job pays shit compared to mine, don't worry, I'm not interested in it.",
"Haha, I thought it was a pun meant to sound like dumb",
"> at the very least remove him from a privilege of authority? That's what I would ask. Nothing more. \n\nOhh so just fired from his job, no 'lock him up' or anything like that? Awesome bro.",
"Straight denial and personal attacks. Good stuff. That's exactly the quality debating that brought Hillary the historic 2016 win.\n\n>There is no epidemic of immigrants.\n\nAre you European by chance?",
"That has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. \n\nYour list of accomplishments does not support your claim that Trump has accomplished more in his first year than any other President.\n\nWould you like to withdraw the claim or make another attempt at backing it up with facts?",
"You obviously can only keep responding with desperate ramblings that have no basis in reality. \n\nHey bud, dont hold your breath waiting for something to happen. Already been a year lmao and they have people like you still believing their garbage. ",
">That he’s unqualified?\n\nHe's not unqualified, he's a lot more successful than either either Bush, Obama, Hillary or Bill the Rapist. I \n\n>That he barely does his job and goes on golfing trips constantly?\n\nHow do you know he's not doing his job, are you with him? Do you know what he is talking about. Do you play golf? I don't like it, but do a lot for work. A lot get accomplish on the course. \n\n>That he speaks like a disabled third grader and often makes tweets and speeches that make literally zero sense?\n\nDid you ever see Obama without his [teleprompter](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wS8B1Qp5kQ). He is literally retarded. Trump talks off the cuff all the time and he makes perfect sense, you just aren't listening. \n\n>These are all objective facts that you can see independently and not have to be “told” through the media.\n\nThese are all opinions, you don't seem to understand what the word fact means. ",
"Got any proof?",
"5",
"Trump effectively said “why would we want people from these shithole countries?” We don’t have it on tape that we know of, but multiple sources say he said this. Only Trump has denied it. Its perfectly reasonable to think he said it, as he already said something similar about Mexico last year. Saying we want people from countries like Norway and not from “shitholes” like Haiti, or El Salvador or “a bunch of african countries has clear racial overtones. If you can’t see that, you’re willfully ignorant.\n\nAnd thank you! You have a great day as well!\n",
"I'm getting really sick of this \"he's the most powerful man on the planet\"-shit and America The Superpower Leader Of The World-thing. \n\nI think currently China is running for the lead and Russia is having a steady go by controlling US president and having pretty big assets.",
"They can claim it does not deface public property. Classless no the less.",
"Yes, you do. Because you have to have knowledge about both places to make the decision based on something more than races. Again, where has he shown that he listens to anything other than Fox news or shown any critical thinking skills when it comes to anything? \n\nDown vote if you want, but he reacts with emotion, not thought. Even if you can justify his decisions with fact or precedence, that's not why he makes them. He makes his decisions from emotional responses and has a history of refusing to listen to data or advisement, including from his own administration. ",
"From a ND? Hell ya.",
"Proof?",
"no, see, that's just what he wants you to think! :-)\nhe's only pretending to be those things :-)\nit's just to get people to talk about him :-)",
"Like it's the first time. \"Leader of the free world\", that is some old hat propaganda ",
"Yeah you guys really got to him this time.",
"Is that meant to be an insult? Your streets are literal feces filled",
"After the behavior of the left, I'm going to be interested to see how a democratic President is treated in future.",
"That he speaks like much of the rest of the population does not excuse him from being a boor.\n\nDid I miss something, or should the person elected to the highest office in the land not be held to a higher expectation of behaviour?\n\nI don't think anyone is saying they should be labelled beautiful, industrious places, just that y'know, him being the president and all that, he might be expected to have some diplomacy, and not call them shitholes.",
"An illegal immigrant came back after being deported multiple times and stayed in SF. Due to “sanctuary city” the Feds couldn’t do much. Then he shot and killed a girl and got away scot-free ",
"YOURE ALL RETARDED",
"Considering the amount of third world countries Obama bombed, shithole has definitely crossed the line...... ",
"I don't see where he said presidents never act in this manner. The times were different then anyways. Politicians could say overtly racist things. Police could shoot black people with impunity. Etc etc. A president should be aware of what is ok to say and what isn't. No one complains if a citizen calls a shithole country a shithole (I'm from one). But the man in the highest office should not be a buffoon like this guy. ",
"I'm a liberal. You know, it's funny how both sides accuse eachother of disregarding anything that doesn't fit their narrative.",
"[This is not the first time our presidents have used colorful language in private.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms)",
"You mean that unemployment has continued a trend that started before Trump took office? Such MAGA.",
"",
"No Mookie, I was being facetious, but you knew that anyway.\n\nI confess to not knowing Adams was flawed like that. I knew he was anti slavery and was looking for someone from the past with more class than Trump.",
"\"Name calling is not necessary\"\n\n\"Calling the President a Shithole makes me proud.\"\n\nI'm willing to guarantee your entire belief basis is nothing but hypocritical contradictions.",
"I need proof hat Trump called certain foreign nations a “shithole”? I guess you got a different news feed huh?",
"http://www.timescall.com/longmont-local-news/ci_31439720/boulder-county-protectors-light-projection\n\nHere in my town this caused quite the stir. ",
"I’m sure it’s not, and it certainly doesn’t excuse it. It’s not even about the language itself but the message: he wants no immigrants from disadvantaged countries. Americans should know better that disadvantaged or poor does not equal bad people. ",
"San Fransisco confirmed shithole.",
"You're joking, right?",
"My point ^",
"Wut are you talking about?\n\nSeriously??",
"That's a really messed up thing for SF to do. ",
"Once again, I’m satisfied with my response. This list is massive. No other president has even come close to it in one year. Sorry it’s the truth.",
"But didn’t he say this behind closed doors? Much like Obama, who declared that Syria was a shitshow. I wouldn’t fault either of them for using “harsh” language. My own neighborhood is a shithole. ",
"Its weird man, the founding fathers were 1,000x worse than Trump in behavior standards but for some reason we're always comparing him to them to be more \"presidential\". He is being more presidential than the last 10 stuffy suit presidents combined. He's eccentric, a bit wild, unapologetic, and getting shit done - just like the founding fathers.",
"Read that in Richard Ayoades voice. Sounds gold.",
"> Are you a legal immigrant,\n\nCareful bro, don't break the narrative. If people acknowledge that legal and illegal immigration are different things, it's harder to just call you a racist. Better to just use the word \"immigrant\" and ignore or shout over anyone who points that out.\n\nSources: Reddit, CNN",
"I am sorry that you had to go through that. And much respect to you for pulling yourself out of it. \n\nHowever, the reasons for your homelessness may not be the same reason as someone else's. So without minimizing your unfortunate experiences, the solution is not to look at one anecdotal example of escaping homelessness, but rather the address fundamental issues. Education perhaps, skills training, like you mentioned or showers and money for clothes.\n\nYou make a great comment further down detailing the exact resources available to pull people out of homelessness, thank you for that. \n\nWhile I agree with you that California definitely does offer support to the homeless, I would also argue that those policies come from the same place of compassion and not hate towards the less fortunate. \n\nI fundamentally disagree with you, however, that arrest or incarceration would solve any of these issues. Psychological support perhaps, drug rehabilitation drives might address the issues but incarceration or arrest certainly don't need to be the starting point to receive help.",
"Explain your reasoning, because San Francisco is most definitely a sanctuary city and has been since they enacted an ordinance declaring themselves as such back in 1989. ",
">Trump signed a $250 billion deal with them and got them to end their shitty trade practices. Talk is cheap, actions matter and China's actions towards Trump show they like him a lot.\n\nMany agreements are tentative and involve existing partnerships. Not only, the Chinese surplus is on track to match 2016's, so it's not like Trump is setting a new trend.\n\nhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-09/breaking-down-the-250-billion-china-deals-trump-got-for-america\n\nMeanwhile...\n\nhttps://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvzgqd/the-many-ways-china-has-responded-to-ignorant-child-donald-trump\n\nhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-china-national-security-strategy-victory-hardliners-us-isolationism/\n\nYeah, China *totally* loves Trump. Good joke.\n\n>Their governments supported Trump's travel ban.\n\nIt should be easy for you to post your source then. Why don't you?\n",
"You refuse to understand me. Maybe if I write one word per line:\n\n*I*\n\n*DON'T*\n\n*CARE*\n\n*ABOUT*\n\n*PROVING*\n\n*ANYTHING*\n\n*TO*\n\n*YOU.*\n\nYou can call me a bigot, illogical, or whatever. Did I ever *try to prove I'm not?* Did I ever challenge your accusation of bigotry? Did I ever deny that I'm making a character attack? Did I ever try to show you why supporting Trump is wrong?\n\nI don't believe you realize what's happening here. I made my comment. I said, basically, Trump supporters don't accept logic. Why do you expect me to use logic against people who I don't believe respond to logic? Where is the logic in that?\n\nDo you go to mental hospitals and try to prove the patients that they are crazy? You are nothing more to me. That's why you will never be able to provoke me into trying proving anything.\n\nNot because I don't have arguments, but because you are not worth using them.\n\nYou lost that privilege once you voted for the orange guy.",
"Proof? People keep saying “he literally said xyz” but have nothing other than Don fucking Lemons words to back it up. Where did he say this? Where is the proof? So far I’ve seen nothing that makes me think this is anything but a rumor that the media gobbled up and ran with. I mean, he probably said it behind closed doors, but who can honestly say they haven’t said something similar about these shithole countries.",
"He didn't say any of that though. That's 100% you reading into this and making assumptions.\n\nAll he said was that some countries are shit holes, and asked why people from Norway don't try to immigrate here.\n\nHe said this in a private meeting, now some democrat shit kicker is using it to stir the pot.",
"Nice. You create an account just to make this comment.",
"See I agree with you there, completely. But you're contradicting yourself in all of your previous posts.\n\nCriminalizing is just a waste of resources like I said previously. Addicts need help, and arresting them does nothing. The solution is to provide everything you said, at scale. But if SF can't scale and provide all of that because of the influx of the homeless, what are they to do?\n\nAnd your saying 'free of charge', which I agree with. But would you rather see the money and resources spent to criminalize drugs, spent on these programs? You can't have it both ways.",
"> He's not unqualified, he's a lot more successful than either either Bush, Obama, Hillary or Bill the Rapist.\n\nSo you think having money qualifies someone to be president? That's just ignorant.\n\n> How do you know he's not doing his job, are you with him? Do you know what he is talking about. Do you play golf? I don't like it, but do a lot for work. A lot get accomplish on the course.\n\nThis isn't what you fuckers said when Obama golfed. Also I'm pretty sure it's easier to do your work when you're actually in the office. Also it saves the taxpayers millions.\n\n> Did you ever see Obama without his teleprompter. He is literally retarded. Trump talks off the cuff all the time and he makes perfect sense, you just aren't listening.\n\nYou think [this](http://i.imgur.com/rBP6Yxo.jpg) makes sense? Maybe you're just as retarded as he is.\n\n> These are all opinions, you don't seem to understand what the word fact means.\n\nNo they're facts. It's just that facts are poison to conservatives.",
"I'm guessing this case is more complicated than most redditors discussing it think it is.\n\nLaw isn't easy. ",
"Ok then... what did he mean by shithole countries then? And how did he intend that they are different from Norway?",
"So Obamas sentiment behind Libya being a shit show was better? And you do know the media focused on these words? Like, the literal words. So your opinion would differ from the media hivemind imho ",
"Eyo, it's me, yer covfefe",
"\"Fancy words.\" You mean proper English.",
"> Jeb!.\n\nThank you for punctuating that properly. :)",
"Two senators who were present also have denied it. And don’t give me, “Oh they only said they didn’t *recall* him saying that.” Bullshit, they are denying that he said it. Trump probably said something *along those lines*, and then the third party source who went to the media recited a version of what was said that was paraphrased by whichever cuckold lawmaker was triggered by the meeting. But i guess, “Well, that’s something he *would* say” just passes as good enough for fact now. If you hear Norway and think “white people” and Haiti and think “black people” then you are the racist. The only people who see this as a racist comment from Trump are those who are predisposed to thinking he is a racist.\n\nTell me, why *would* we want to import people from countries with low education, low skill, and high crime rates? It is a statistical fact that if you import enough people from those countries on a lottery-based system that you will be importing a significant amount of people with low education, low skill, and a high propensity for committing crime. We need a merit based system, which is what Trump has been advocating for. The fact that one country is majority white and the other is majority black is purely coincidental. If you see a connection there then guess what, YOU ARE THE RACIST.",
"Seriously? He meant that Haiti is a shithole and Norway is not a shithole.",
"Incorrect, at least the Redmond Skate park had 2 graffiti walls. I used to transfer busses there every day and the some of the artists were amazing. Then the next day a different artist would be out there painting over everything. It was awesome and I wish I had taken a picture every day.\n\nhttp://www.redmond.gov/cms/one.aspx?pageId=4097",
"Paint is too ingrained to Bristol culture at this point. Long may it continue.",
"I fail to see how using more tactful language than referring to entire nations as \"shitholes\" is BS. But I suppose it's all relative, depending on who and what you're surrounded by daily. ",
"You said I was interpreting it, so I asked you what he meant. What does he mean by “shithole” if not disadvantaged?",
"Media claimed an ambassador quit because of Trump. Proven not true. Original post gets 60K upvotes...retraction gets nothing.\n\n",
"7 We enforce a standard of common decency and civility here. Please be respectful to others. Personal attacks, bigotry, fighting words, \n\n\n\nMods should start being honest and add \" Unless you disagree with us then FUCK YOU we can call you anything we like and even threaten lives.\"",
"Triggered much? Need a cup of warm milk and a soft cookie to tend to your nerves?",
"A lie you tell yourself is still a lie. ",
"Hah, nice. For anyone who doesn't recognize: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k",
"And then we’ll go ride our electric skateboards! Wait, that’s just you. ",
"",
"What I don't understand is why everyone seems to think that you need a projector and a laptop to project a static image. All you need is a strong undiffused light source, some suitable lensing and a pattern mask made out of tinfoil or similar. All can be had for $20, lower if you use scrap.",
"Whats really messed up is places all across the US that give homeless people an option of being arrested or taking a bus ticket to SF. At least SF doesn't criminalize homelessness. SF gives them the option to return home to family where they could better get out of their mess, with no \"or be arrested\". Whats further messed up is how middle america criminalizes homelessness and stocks private prisons with low level drug offenders.",
"Hmmm, I wonder who else used the “I don’t recall” defense. ",
"It already is in 87.9% of the world. Common descriptive term.",
"I think you're missing the fact that this is San Francisco. There are a number of cities where this would be met with cheers rather than boos, SF among them. Any liberal city practically. If someone tried to damage the projector they'd likely get assaulted, and then sued for the property damage. They'd be risking way more than the dude with his projector. Would it be a good idea in some small town in the middle of the US? Probs not, but depends on the town.",
"You're right, he was only deported 5 times and had seven felony convictions and the gun he stole was from a ranger's car",
"Yeah lol you lost this one bud",
"I meant crazy in a good way. I actually don’t care about this or your comment. To be completely honest I think reddit is getting old fast. It’s all the same predictable stuff with the same predictable comments. But I’m glad this is interesting to you. I’m sure your life is great. ",
"Hahahaha obviously no one agrees ",
"how exactly can you confirm that these sources had ethics and standards? Because with the same logic you can say that the public didn't have the a ability to challenge the words that these sources printed. tell me that it wouldn't be easier to pass off and pay for a lie as a politician back when. lol really dude think about it ",
"Maybe if they weren't spending so much taxpayer money on supporting illegal immigrants, they might be able to help the homeless citizens with their situation.",
"... who somehow managed to become the President.",
"Recovering economy under Obama after worst recession since the depression- \"The president has no effect on the economy!\"\n\nOne year of exactly continuing Obama's growth and zero economic policies coming into effect -\"Trump is an economic genius, take that libtards!\"",
"I did, it's hilarious.",
"We have political issues here, but no political catastrophes at the moment. ",
"Yeah, but what are YOU talking about? What deal??\n\nYou might want to take a quick break and do a little research here before continuing..",
"It's a gift that keeps on giving my friend. ",
"That’s disingenuous to say the least. . . Read my comment again in case you didn’t understand it the first time around :)",
"I’m annoyed it isn’t Trump branded instead of Storck. ",
"Average tax cut for middle class was about 1%. Business got a 15% tax cut, putting a two trillion dollar hole in the deficit with no way to pay for it. Very conservative judging by how 'conservatives' have been trying to run the country for 25 years.",
"I think president Dump is completely insulated from this type of stuff. It’s unfortunate but he’s probably completely oblivious to criticisms. ",
"But Trump's kind of politics isn't about lying. He's brutally honest. And that's why so many people are drawn to what he says and does. ",
"I think \n\nPresident \nShithole \n\nWould have been better.",
"Check the Murder rates and unemployment levels from those cities to the rest of the usa \n\nThey are self evident ",
"Everywhere. I grew up around the city. I can’t fucking stand that disgusting shithole. I’ve never been to Detroit or Baltimore though so maybe there’s hope that SF isn’t the most disgusting city in the US.",
"> f***\n\n You wouldn't talk that way around your grandmother would you? Please watch your language, there are children on Reddit.",
"Uhm. No. \n\nI said people from rich countries don't want to emigrate to the US.\n\nYou countered that by saying the US has a high immigration rate.\n\nI then questioned that those immigrants come from rich countries.\n\nYou then questioned that those immigrants come from rich countries.\n\nSo, uhm, I guess I'm glad we agree. Cheers.",
"That was before everyone has saw what a hackjob he is, the fact he won probably woke a lot of people up, because like you said, everybody assumed he wouldn't win.",
"Why not be more precise?\n\nWhy do those individuals making less than 30k vote blue by a margin of 2-1?\n\n",
"I'm on reddit.",
"Even a neo-liberal piece of dogshit like Obama deserves more respect than Trump. Did you ever consider that could be the reason why the media and public respect him more? ",
"Don't forget that he campaigned tirelessly and spent 66 million of his own cash, of course he didn't want to win. He wanted to start his new media empire on the heels of disastrous presidential run, ITS BUSINESS 101 BRO.",
"Doesn't help that the media has spun nearly 95% of the stories about him in a negative light. And no, 95% isn't an exaggeration, it's a statistic ",
"Yeah I’d imagine most Trump supporters are too poor and stupid to afford a $2500 toy like that, but maybe one day you’ll get a job and get out your moms basement, and THEN maybe you can get a cheap little amazon board. Until then, keep making your Trump butt buddies happy by spending your time trying to troll me. 🤗",
"Yes. ",
"Tulsa, 1919. ",
"Have you ever been to San Francisco? ",
"Are you okay?",
"Found the asian.",
"",
"Actually most of them do. Also, compassion doesn't solve anything. It only makes you soft and feeble minded on these issues. ",
"Says the guy that posts pictures of his cat... keep pretending you’re a badass ;) ",
"> Heck if they’re going to tax us that much then give me a questionnaire where I can check the boxes of what govt. agencies or charities I want my cash to go to. \n\nThis isn’t how this works, nor should it be. ",
"Yes I have. ",
"Yeah it was behind closed doors in a private meeting and the source for the media was word of mouth from a democratic congessional aide. I'm sure every president has plenty of 'not so presidential' moments behind closed doors but the media only reports on what fits their agenda.",
"Are you a liberal in disguise? Because you’re hurting your cause by being so immature. ",
">So you think having money qualifies someone to be president? That's just ignorant.\n\nI didn't say anything about money, love your assumptions. He ran a very successful business empire with over 500+ companies the world over. Had a highly rated TV show and is now President after beating out a host of other people. That's def. qualified. \n\n>This isn't what you fuckers said when Obama golfed. Also I'm pretty sure it's easier to do your work when you're actually in the office. Also it saves the taxpayers millions.\n\nI never said anything about obama playing golf and you didn't answer my question so that must mean you don't play golf. \n\n>You think this makes sense? Maybe you're just as retarded as he is.\n\nThat's not as bad as anything in the video LOL. \n\n>No they're facts. It's just that facts are poison to conservatives.\n\nThey aren't facts, you can't prove anything you claim. You are literally talking out of your ass it's hillarious. And doll, I'm not a conservative or a liberal. ",
"I bet you think the stock market dropped by 50% under Obama too",
"Trump: you’re fucking retarded\n\nLibs: nAw *yeRr* fUCkiNg retArdeD",
"Some areas yes, but the vast majority of the city smells just fine. The weather is amazing there",
"I saw an old man masturbating on the sidewalk at the Castro mid-day. No one paid attention to him as they walked by. ",
"Says the guy that spends his day defending any and all things Trump, and does nothing but talk shit. K I’m done arguing with you though, no time to waste on morons today.",
"Nope, I didn't. Because today, it does not surprise me how California (or the state of Washington, Oregon, etc.) would treat their current President. It would not surprise me if federal employees in California decided to break laws and commit crimes, all in the name of their evil President.",
"Urine smells better than cow shit. I'd say sign me up if I had the money.",
"Shithole post",
"You sure are triggered",
"Oh, so there’s no actual deal yet and they are still in “talks”. \n\nGlad you finally figured that out., good job ",
"www.shitholecompany.com",
"6",
"even if you speak out against the white-farmer genocide? lol",
"I love how some people keep saying \"Well, look who's talking, look how bad San Francisco is right now.\"\n\nJust admit it, he is a Shithole President.",
"\n>The reason why people still like Trump (I voted for Johnson) is because he \"loves\" American citizens. Meanwhile, Obama blamed American citizens... at least half of them anyway. \n\nMaybe they deserve to be blamed? ",
"Please provide a source.",
"How is that in any way related to what I wrote? His presidency never hit 3% annualized growth . . .the first president in the history of the United States to achieve that wonderful record. . Must really burn him up knowing that Trumps presidency already crossed that figure going **against** and greatly exceeding the most optimist economic outlooks at the end of 2016 :p \n\nYou’re seeing this in people’s investment accounts, their year end bonuses, increased hiring and record low unemployment.\n\nIt doesn’t matter what I think, son, America is booming and that’s good for you (as much as it must kill you to see Trump succeed), it’s good for me!",
"I can't find the video or transcript of Trump actually saying this? Or is it just heresay? In genuinely curious ",
"You are gullible to believe that 80% of CA tax revenue is spent on \"helping find illegals houses, buy them cars pay for medical\". [In 2012 CA's tax revenue was about $112b.](http://www.governing.com/gov-data/state-tax-revenue-data.html) Are you telling me that CA spends $88b on immigrants and the rest of the state operates on a measly $22b? That is *insane* and you would have to be gullible as fuck to believe that. ",
"LOL! More like Shithole state!!!",
"Omfg k",
"[No, really, SF has a major problem.](https://i.imgur.com/dUepbeV.gif)",
"So you worked as an intern for a state congressman. Tell us more about how politicians are just honest folks ",
"who's Shit hole President ???",
"Yes. ",
"That was so earnest it sounded like sarcasm lol. You're throwing me for a loop hah",
"Yes, and? ",
"Politics getting shitty",
"Take a look at this genius, telling it like it is! Yeah, why would we ever want experienced, intelligent, educated, deliberate people making decisions? Fuck that! Let’s get more corruption, nepotism, and possibly treason into our politics, because no one fucking needs the Constitution or a functioning government.",
"Petroleum geologist, wbu? I didn't mean that you wanted it for yourself but that you and your petty lynch mob social justice scolds would destroy it rather than take it. The idea of Marxists actually utilizing what they attack and appropriate is laughable.",
"Is this because of what he said about those shithole countries? ",
"A more apt analogue would be men in a garage swearing and talking smut privately amongst themselves at Thanksgiving. Then, when everyone is seated at the table, kids included, an offended party starts using the terms pussy and shithole and writing it on the wall in front of the children, at which point everyone gets angry at the guys in the garage. Your analogy of a child repeating obscenities misses the point as the point is protecting the children, which admittedly seems a lost cause in this cultural climate.",
"Lmao imagine shilling this hard, but for free",
"That makes OP wrong in his wording, but not in reality. I'm sorry, I should have clarified.",
"My point ^^^",
"Is this the point where I pretend that Random Internet Cocksucker #672's opinion matters to me?",
"Yeah I hate it when people invade my safe space. I'm literally shaking right now. Save me daddy Trump.",
"I didn't say that. I say he may as well be. A never-Trumper and a Democrat tend to perform the same functions when it comes to their hatred for the president.",
"LOL I cannot imagine why I would care.",
"I know that’s not how it works. I didnt say that’s how it works, I said I’td be better if it *was* how it works. ",
"Melania and Baron are innocent bystanders. Bitch wanted a payday and got more than she bargained for. The kid will already be fucked up by all of it. Tiffany isn’t culpable either",
"It's not appearances you need to be concerned about , it's the consequences of actions, and disregarding your neighbours on a tiny planet is rather shortsighted. ",
"Implications? Fuck you. You people ALWAYS find some negative implication to everything. It doesn't do the rest of us to care.",
"> Many agreements are tentative and involve existing partnerships. Not only, the Chinese surplus is on track to match 2016's, so it's not like Trump is setting a new trend.\n\nHe made the deal, you're just mad. \n\n>Meanwhile...\n\nThat's you bro LOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo\n(https://list.juwai.com/news/2017/11/5-reasons-donald-trump-is-a-hit-in-China)\n \nhttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/10/chinese-media-hails-success-of-trumps-pilgrimage-to-beijing\n\nhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/world/asia/trump-china-fans.html\n\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-trump-fans-love-rich-powerful-politically-incorrect-2017-11\n\nThere are plenty more.\n\n>It should be easy for you to post your source then. Why don't you?\n\nYou just got BTFO again. ",
"Yeah, fuck sources, right?",
"Trump is working on fucking that up too. He's said multiple times he wants to strengthen libel laws because he's a snowflake little bitch. He despises freedom of speech and his cuck supporters are too dumb to realize it.",
"But not [more per capita](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/02/climate/trump-paris-green-climate-fund.html) than other nations. We have more power than other nations; it makes sense that we pay more. Besides, the benefit is *global*. ",
"The folks from Ireland who came here when things were shit (mid 1800's) became the Kennedys and the Disneys and the Fords and the Brennans.\nSometimes the tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free need a generation to bring the goods to the American table.\nMy Irish grandparents were born here, but their parents were immigrants. Both my Grandmother and Grandfather served in WWI.\n\n",
"7",
"You're functionally retarded.",
"New York would like to have a word with you. ",
"Not even a little bit.",
"My point ^",
"And then call it a shithole. ",
"Of all the places I never would have thought to look for an example, I never would have suspected Snopes. Thanks for posting that.",
"That how the left lost the election. You guys honestly don’t think we exist because we don’t run around screaming about how great and virtuous we are like the left does. You thought you had it in the bag. You would be fucking shocked at how many visitors From r/all are trump supporters but don’t ever say so because they don’t want to deal with screeching lefties on this site. They just want to look at cat pictures and bitch about movies in peace.",
"Thanks. Makes sense",
"Charming, if that is really the most sensational post you have ever read you might want to try expanding you horizons a tad. ",
"That better be an environmentally friendly projector, snowflakes.\n\nI love the hate and so does Trump. Keep feeding his ego. He'll be here for a second term. ",
"A history of foreign states deliberately weakening their institutions, supporting violent and oppressive governments, and pillaging their resources?",
"So he tells the truth and he's admonished for it? As someone with who considers himself a centrist, and has traveled/backpacked several of these countries, it's hard not to see all this outrage for his comments as anything more than childish. Those countries are shitholes. Can you imagine someone in Montana projecting \"Shithole President\" onto a Federal Gov't wall in Billings during the Obama Admin? The liberal left would lose their minds. ",
"No. I don't mind. Jus go and look for yourself. The only thing any site is talking on it trump. Like just because he said an offensive things the fucking world is going to Implode",
"Facts that disagree with my world view = shilling ! Reeeeeeee\n\n",
"Lol fine then. But your outburst of \"fuck you\" would indicate, if anything, you really do care. ",
"Everyone has an agenda. ",
"https://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-u-s-cities-with-a-high-homelessness-rate/greg\n\n",
"Beat you to it eh?",
"Whatever country you live in was most likely \"stolen\" at some point as well. Go watch a history of territories time lapse. ",
"\"my new account that only talks about how amazing Trump is is totally organic reeeeeeeee\"",
"I care that your ilk have completely abandoned Free Speech and anything approaching discourse and debate.",
"Should have expected that kind of response. The leftists of the world have perfected the craft of self deception. Nothing you hold so dear has ever improved society. Your shitty dream for America is over. ",
"> The Paris Climate Agreement was complete shit \n\nWe paid more and it was going to be a starting step, not some “final solution”. That doesn’t make it shit. \n\n> The “Muslim ban” (its not) targeted many of the same countries the last administration had pushed to make more difficult to enter the US. Plus it’s not a ban at all its differed measures to ensure proper screening before entry (how awful!).\n\nIt was a poorly-implemented ban that was originally intended by Trump to be a Muslim ban. \n\n> Stop repeating your tiring Daily Show tirades. Nobody is buying them anymore.\n\nThat you can brush off all criticisms of a clearly bumbling president as “Daily Show tirades” shows just how much you don’t care about the downsides of his administration. ",
"Right, it might seem pedantic, but it's important that people actually do their homework and read about the details of the case. \n\nThe Republicans have used this case bc it checks off all boxes, it helps the narrative that frothing at the mouth mexicans are coming into America like a walking dead episode and slaughtering our pretty young white girls. \n\nThe reality is that illegal immigrants are far less likely to commit violent crimes than their citizen counterparts. You shouldn't make policy based off outrage at one horrible incident, you should make public policy with logic and reason. ",
"Let me be clear, it's not that I can't. It's that in doing so in the past, time after time, people like you don't accept it and find some fallacious reason to dismiss it. So, I don't do it much any more.\n\nYou'll have to excuse me but in talking to people like you, the exact opposite of what you say always seems to be the case. Your bias is so strong you're completely unwilling to accept something contrary to it.",
"I keep saying this, but if they *ever* make a \"Coffifee\" it would be so good~~",
"It was because it referred to an active conflict not of the people's own making. \n\nTrump said that someone from El Salvador like me, with two us degrees shouldn't be allowed in the country because of where I come from",
"8",
"My point ^",
"The second part of that sentence addresses your reply. ",
"Except he didn't say Trump said that. He said Trump said something he didn't like and he said his peace to Trump",
"[Poop (and homeless and needles) over the years.](https://i.imgur.com/dUepbeV.gif)",
"",
"9",
"so when bill clinton got a blowjob in the white house we shouldn't have talked about it in public because won't somebody think of the children??",
"Lefties don’t like when their own narrative is blown up. ",
"That’s literally the opposite of what I said. Imprisoning someone for dissent still removes freedom of speech, but that person is not dead.\n\nIn a lot of ways imprisonment for dissent is worse, because it allows people to say “the guy’s not dead so clearly he still has freedom of speech”. When you make death the only way to limit freedom of speech, you empower people who want to control speech. They’ll say as long as no one dies, you are still free, which is bullshit. \n\nIt could go a step further and the gov could issue fines for dissent. Now freedom of speech is only available to those who can afford it.\n\n ",
"Graham didn't confirm the comments though, so that's an issue. Also the White House doesn't have to say anything about this tabloid allegation if the president has personally denied it. You are really stretching there.",
"Completely abandoned free speech? I'm exercising it now and you don't like it. We're currently debating - well we were until you interjected \"fuck you\".\n\nLashing out at people with differing opinions will *never ever* work at helping them see yours. ",
"There's no valid proof he did say that, except here-say from politically motivated Democrats. Amazing how you guys buy into anything the \"news\" spoon feeds you.\n\nI thought you guys were still having an orgasm to the leftist hypocrite Oprah running for president? Funny how she never mentioned Harvey Weinstein in her \"moral high ground\" speech. Lol. ;-)",
"so....shithole countries are pro-Trump?",
"This Guy Fawkes. ",
"This might possibly the dumbest comment I have seen on Reddit.. \n\nCongrats, none the less. Mind sharing some of the details on this deal that’s been reached ",
"I love these comments. Someone supports the state of the US. Quick I have to read through the comment history to prove to myself that they support Trump so tell myself they are insane.",
"I believe in this case the he was talking about not wanting LEGAL immigrants from shithole countries",
"Which explains why there are so many of them walking around so angry. They don't like a lot these days.",
"> He ran a very successful business empire with over 500+ companies the world over.\n\nSo successful he got blacklisted from every major American bank and had to sell his name for money and won't even show us his tax returns because he's afraid of what we'll see.\n\n> Had a highly rated TV show and is now President after beating out a host of other people. That's def. qualified.\n\nWhich part of this is actual political experience? Oh right none of it. But he had a TV show so he's qualified! Hahahaha you can't be fucking serious with this.\n\n> I never said anything about obama playing golf\n\nAnd I never said anything about Obama without a teleprompter but you brought it up (classic whataboutism)\n\n> you didn't answer my question so that must mean you don't play golf. \n\nYou're right I don't. How the fuck does this matter?\n\n> That's not as bad as anything in the video LOL.\n\nIf you think stuttering is worse than literally being incapable of forming complete sentences then you're either lying to yourself or like I said earlier, completely retarded yourself.\n\n> They aren't facts, you can't prove anything you claim.\n\nIt's a fact that Trump golfs a shit ton and it's a fact that conservatives moaned endlessly when Obama did it. Also it's a fact that having money and having a TV show doesn't mean you're politically qualified. I still can't believe this needs to be explained but this is Trump's America now.\n\n> And doll, I'm not a conservative or a liberal.\n\n[My bad](https://ii.yuki.la/1/67/1842f51c9019b90d8f79224644a947a46375078736d56ff5fa428f5e1a1b5671.jpg)\n",
"Oh. There are plenty of very nice areas of SF. But the homeless areas I wondered onto are the worst I've ever seen. \n\nIt's also the only city where a homeless man punched me after I didn't give money.",
"Missed my posts on /investing /programming and other subs have you? Also, notice how you have zero rebuttals to my comments above? ",
"Who wanna live?",
"And who dey \n",
"Last three times I’ve opened reddit I’ve seen some anti trump post on this sub right smack in my feed and I’m sick of it. Can someone finally post something original? If you are gonna attack our president can you at least give some specific examples of hows he’s wronged you instead of these consistent shots that will continue to make you feel good about yourself? I dare someone to make something that actually deals with a real issue instead of this misconstrued notion that he’s the anti christ and everything about eve thing is worse with him. ",
"Just because you make fun of something doesn't mean it's wrong. It could just mean you're a moron. ",
"",
"That's still not an answer, just an (incorrect) ad hominem attack. \n\nWhat's your metric? For basic accomplishments of the office, Trump hasn't done anything more than most Presidents in their first year,. Cabinet appointments, for example, took longer than any president in history with the exception of George Washington, who had the disadvantage of starting from scratch. \n\n>This list is massive. No other president has even come close to it in one year.\n\nThat's a random assertion, something Trump uses when he doesn't have a real answer to a question. \n\nRather than emulating Trump and throwing a temper tantrum when challenged, how about some examples of real-world metrics, not some bullshit copy/paste? \n\n",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/7q4q0t/south_african_protestors_destroy_hm_store_over_a/",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeAnarchy/comments/7q4q0t/south_african_protestors_destroy_hm_store_over_a/",
"Tax cut. We all have more money. ",
"I googled his suggestion and it came up with the same article, but also many others highlighting SF bussing away tens of thousands of homeless to the Midwest. Virtue signaling only masks (very poorly) the shithole mentality that most of California has towards real poverty.",
"Found the Trumpeter.",
"This is not about \"talking about it in public\" the equivalent here would be plastering BLOWJOB in huge letters in a public space where parents and kids were subjected to seeing it and addressing it whether they wished to or not, in which case, yes, I would deem it inappropriate.",
"The person I was replying to said it was \"objectively true\" that the *people* are shit, not the geographic region where they live. ",
"You're getting so bent out of shape over that one statement. I said it's typical of illegal aliens to come here and be forced to commit crimes for either money, or because they're gang affiliated. It's TYPICAL. TYPICALLY.",
"That's fair enough but the poster did specifically point to:\n\n> Education levels, socioeconomic status, crime rates\n\nWhich are objectively magnitudes worse",
"I'm a capitalist...",
"What can we throw against President Trump, and have it stick today?\n\n-Leaked private conversations with Billy Bush? Nope.\n\n-Fake Russia Collusion narrative, with no evidence after a year? Nope.\n\n-Hiring false accusers who have links to the Clinton Foundation? Nope.\n\n-Claim he has dementia, even though he kicked the Left's ass? Nope.\n\n-Claim falsely he paid hush money to an adult film star? Nope.\n\n-Claim he said the word \"shithole\" to trigger leftists? Nope.\n\n-Manipulate the mainstream \"news\" to pump anti-Trump rhetoric 24/7? Nope.\n\n-Manipulate Luciferian celebrities to give speeches falsely claiming a \"moral high ground\", while dressed in Luciferian color of black? Nope.\n\nWell then what's next? Looks like we will have to crash the economy and blame it on him.\n\nSeriously, I don't care if you're liberal, hate Trump, etc; but take a step back and give the bigger picture some serious thought. I don't love/worship Trump, and I'm not from r/Donald. Believe me, or don't believe me.\n\nIf you really buy into the daily dose of hatred that is being pushed out for you to consume, you're wasting your own life for someone else's agenda up the chain. Always ask Cui Bono? Who Benefits? \n\nYou have a limited amount of time on this planet, don't waste it on negative influences.",
"Made it yesterday to respond to a few, yes. \n\nI guess you have to stop lurking sometime? But glad you had a decent rebuttal. Commenting is fun isn't it?",
"No it's not. If everything else didn't end him, this sure won't either",
"That's US dollars, not those fake Canadian Dollars you use up there.",
"I salute you. ",
"> Since you have judged the entire area, you must judge those people to be shitty I mean we are using your logic from above.\n\nHow big was your pole vault to get from \"I hate people in the KKK\" to \"I hate everyone in the south\"? \n\n>hating certain groups of people\n\nLOL - There is a pretty good basis for hating on the KKK...",
"LOL. ",
"> Are you okay?\n\nThis is the level of argument I was hoping to get into, thanks for finally understanding.\n\nThanks, I'm great. I run a software company, I'm married to a lawyer, we have 3 cats. We are on weekend vacation. Just ordered vegetarian pizza. My only problem is living in a \"shithole\" country (not US), run by conservative bigots, voted into power by even bigger bigots. But later this year we're moving to a country well known for accepting successful and progressive people, even when they come from a shithole country.\n\nAnyway, how's life going for you?",
"Of course not...those countries are shithol....Oh I see what you did there! Well played, sir, well played",
"Well first of all it isn't. It's a slightly rude hyperbole. \n\nAnd finally hatian people aren't a race bruh.",
"Being tactful is important, especially in a position of power. You wouldn't outright call your mom fat if she was gaining weight. Nuance is important\n\nEdit: you've offered a false equivalency. Some random person projecting \"Shithole president\" somewhere during the last administration is NOT the same as the president making an ~~official remark~~\n\nEdit edit: it wasn't an official remark",
"We conquered this shit just like every other nation was doing all over the world, except we did it better. Unfortunately for you, your ancestors didn't sign up to help build it when shit was hard, so if you want to join now that shit is peachy, you gotta go through the process.\n\nIf we left our door wide open, half of the fucking planet would move in, so obviously we need to set limits. Salt by itself doesn't taste good, but if you put a pinch on some good food it can add to the flavor. Thing is, if you put too much salt, the good food just ends up tasting like salt, which ruins it..\n\n",
"Your grammar is almost as offensive as your mindset.",
"> Economy is a reflection of the people and the businesses ran the people.\n\nNo, it's a reflection of the people in power. You are trying to associate every stratification of people as being wholly responsible for how their country is run and how technologically advanced they are. Obama had a long (read:3-years+) vetting process to screen out the 'shitty' people. But Trump, and yourself, would prefer to just call them all shitty people because, well, we both know why.",
"When a Democrat is back in office. ",
"So just randomly shooting the ground in a city that you're illegally in with a gun that you illegally have is ok? That's at least manslaughter man. I feel so bad for that girls parents. \"I'm sorry guys, your daughter is dead because someone was bored, but it's ok cuz he didn't mean to!\" ",
"A lot of Presidents have enacted tax cuts. Many have proven successful and many detrimental, as well. \n\nYour claim that \"we all\" have more money is false, as it will actually increase taxes for a number of individual filers, including those who itemize their deductions. Additionally, while the take home pay for many will have a small increase initially, that savings is offset by the fact that over 50% of individual taxpayers will actually end up with a net increase by 2025. \n\nThis doesn't even count the $1.4 Trillion increase to the deficit, which most economists agree will not be offset by the minor, temporary economic growth that may or may not occur as a result of the cuts. \n\nHave you read any of the actual analysis of the cut, or are you merely under the impression that all tax cuts are good? ",
">So successful he got blacklisted from every major American bank and had to sell his name for money and won't even show us his tax returns because he's afraid of what we'll see.\n\nNo facts in there at all, all hearsay and speculation, too funny. \n\n>Which part of this is actual political experience? Oh right none of it. But he had a TV show so he's qualified! Hahahaha you can't be fucking serious with this.\n\nYou don't need political experience to be President. It's your opinion if you think otherwise, not fact. I'm happy he has no political experience. \n\n>And I never said anything about Obama without a teleprompter but you brought it up (classic whataboutism)\n\nI was showing you how retard Obama is without his prop since you were saying Trump sounds like a third grade. I'm not a conservative so I never cared if Obama played golf, because I understand how much business gets done while playing. \n\n>You're right I don't. How the fuck does this matter?\n\nIt mean yo have no idea what or how much business gets done while on the golf course. It's the businessman's game of choice and lots of deals are made while playing. \n\n>If you think stuttering is worse than literally being incapable of forming complete sentences then you're either lying to yourself or like I said earlier, completely retarded yourself.\n\nhe was doing a lot more than stuttering and couldn't form sentences either. \n\n>It's a fact that Trump golfs a shit ton\n\nThat's an opinion\n\n>t's a fact that conservatives moaned endlessly when Obama did it.\n\nThe moans a little but not endlessly so this is half true. \n\n>Also it's a fact that having money and having a TV show doesn't mean you're politically qualified\n\nYou keep assuming you need political experience to be President. There in nothing in the constitution that say you have to be politically qualified to be President. Your opinion doesn't mean anything. \n\n>My bad\n\nI'm not that either. You're hillarious!\n",
"Tech money is relatively new. There is a shit ton of old white money in San Francisco and Marin County. These families have been here owning land since Mexico became California",
"Reported. ",
"\"The number of criminal aliens in federal prisons in fiscal year 2010 was about\n55,000, and the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state prison\nsystems and local jails was about 296,000 in fiscal year 2009 (the most recent\ndata available), and the majority were from Mexico. The number of criminal\naliens in federal prisons increased about 7 percent from about 51,000 in fiscal\nyear 2005 while the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state\nprison systems and local jails increased about 35 percent from about 220,000\nin fiscal year 2003.\"\n\nhttps://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf\n\nThis was a trend starting way back in the 90s, we've done nothing to stop it, so that means this trend has been a growing issue.\n\n\"The U.S. prison population grew at the slowest rate (0.8%) since 2000, reaching 1,610,446 prisoners at yearend 2008.\"\n\nhttps://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p08.pdf\n\nDo the simple math, that's ~20% of the prison population is illegal aliens, using figures that we're not sure about, simply because it's such a big demographic that goes severely undocumented. We have no idea who these people are.\n\nAlso from the first link I posted\n\n\"GAO estimates that costs to incarcerate criminal aliens in federal prisons and\nSCAAP reimbursements to states and localities ranged from about $1.5 billion\nto $1.6 billion annually from fiscal years 2005 through 2009\"\n\nThe financial loss from imprisoning people that shouldn't be here, shouldn't even be hurting our own people, because they're not even supposed to BE here, is money that could be doing something that is to our benefit.",
"\"The number of criminal aliens in federal prisons in fiscal year 2010 was about\n55,000, and the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state prison\nsystems and local jails was about 296,000 in fiscal year 2009 (the most recent\ndata available), and the majority were from Mexico. The number of criminal\naliens in federal prisons increased about 7 percent from about 51,000 in fiscal\nyear 2005 while the number of SCAAP criminal alien incarcerations in state\nprison systems and local jails increased about 35 percent from about 220,000\nin fiscal year 2003.\"\n\nhttps://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf\n\nThis was a trend starting way back in the 90s, we've done nothing to stop it, so that means this trend has been a growing issue.\n\n\"The U.S. prison population grew at the slowest rate (0.8%) since 2000, reaching 1,610,446 prisoners at yearend 2008.\"\n\nhttps://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p08.pdf\n\nDo the simple math, that's ~20% of the prison population is illegal aliens, using figures that we're not sure about, simply because it's such a big demographic that goes severely undocumented. We have no idea who these people are.\n\nAlso from the first link I posted\n\n\"GAO estimates that costs to incarcerate criminal aliens in federal prisons and\nSCAAP reimbursements to states and localities ranged from about $1.5 billion\nto $1.6 billion annually from fiscal years 2005 through 2009\"\n\nThe financial loss from imprisoning people that shouldn't be here, shouldn't even be hurting our own people, because they're not even supposed to BE here, is money that could be doing something that is to our benefit.",
">Illegals do not contribute to society.\n\nBut, they do. You have cheap food because they work fields no Americans want to do. In what world do you live in where illegal immigrants are some parasite that gives nothing back? LMAO. These people **pay** taxes from their employers and they get *zero* benefit from them. They spend money at businesses and pay sales taxes. They help their communities and they help each other. You have some narrow view of who these people are, lol. They are just like you, except born somewhere else. They have goals, they laugh at jokes, they smile at people on the street, they cook their food, they eat at McDonalds, they share memories, they brush their teeth, they read books, they do research in labs, they run businesses, they aspire for their children to do better - why do you have so much animosity for them when they are **literally** paying for you to live in this country through taxes and asking for nothing back because they know they don't deserve it because they are not citizens.\n\nI'm going to ignore your Trump immigration comments because they are laughable. He hires illegal immigrants because he can pay them less, he hires legal immigrants for the same reason. LOL - he likes white and Asian immigrants, not brown or black ones.",
"Doubt any deal is done without funding for the wall, an end to the current immigration lottery or chain immigration.\n\nDems are negotiating from a disadvantage and if they want a deal done for daca immigrants they better realize concessions must be made. \n\n",
"Man, I'd love to know the media you use, because I'd love to watch/read without having to hear bitching about Trump, for once.\n\nThe simple quote that Trump made was \"Why are people coming from these shithole countries?\" That without context means absolutely... nothing. Is he talking about helping those countries? Or is he saying we shouldn't help? Or that some people from certain countries may be too dangerous? Or what? Too many questions to ask here.",
"So brave, thanks California for being the conscience of the nation.",
"... That doesn’t mean anything.",
"Funny how the people who supposedly \"just want to look at cat pictures and bitch about movies in peace\" are in here brigading, isn't it?",
"Age? Democrats are younger and more educated and republicans earn more and are older. I’m sure students are a meaningful part of that demographic. I suspect with time democrats will begin out earning republicans as salary increases with age. ",
"Oh wow. I do see how that works now. Thank you. \n\nYou certainly CAN split those hairs but based on what he said and (once again) the context, Trump wasn't making that distinction. He was talking about wanting to eliminate all immigration for Hatian *people* (not country). In the same tirade he queried, \"Why do we need more Hatians? Take them out.\"",
"I am someone’s grandma.",
"Some of the smartest students i've met at the University of Texas are african students studying here on a visa. Your ignorance to their possible contributions surprises me. \n\n\nI respect your honesty though in saying that you don't want Africans in the country because they are useless. Even though your reasoning is flawed, you aren't sugar-coating your thoughts. ",
"I should address this, did you NOT read typically? Just because I know a handful of illegals doesn't mean I know every illegal. I was bringing anecdotes just to show that not all are bad, but that the group they're affiliated with for just being illegal, is far too dangerous to really let them be here.",
"/r/pics is a shithole subreddit",
"I think we can all agree that you’re a shithole person too. Look at that, it does apply to people.",
"So no proof?",
"Immigration has occurred for multiple different reasons at multiple different times across history. Trump ran for president on an immigration as a privilege in opposition to immigration as a right and won. He's now trying to change the immigration policies accordingly past migratory history is not necessarily relevant for today's need of the American society.",
"> Saying your home is a shithole is not the same thing as saying you are a shithole\n\nThat's not all the context we have though - he doesn't want people from shithole countries, this implies the people are what makes it shit.\n\nMy analogy is just fine. You can get a plate of food and say it's shit and actually mean the food - as in, you don't like broccoli or coconut. This isn't what Trump meant and that's **very** clear in context. He didn't tell the cook not to bring him broccolli, he said he didn't want him cooking for him. I can tell my wife food she brought me is shit and she wouldn't take offense if I give context that the meat-cut from the cow was terrible. I'm not saying don't cook for me anymore (like Trump is saying), I'm saying don't buy meat from that butcher anymore.\n\nYou can try to twist Trumps words all you like, and you can try to separate the fact he said he didn't want *any* people from these shithole countries but this doesn't change the fact that everyone knows he was talking about the people and not the place. ",
"\"I hope your children are born naked and illiterate!\"\n",
"You know, Trump really doesn't care what California thinks. Go clean up your sanctuary cities already.",
"You didn't even quote me correctly. Plus, you proved my point as someone else has already mentioned.\n\nCase. Closed.",
"Oh I'm sorry. Did I forget to make it tiny letters or put an /s at the end? I didn't realise that people needed oblivious hints to understand anything. \n\n",
"Champagne socialist*",
"So do the Chinese",
"About a year ago, a Republican friend of mine did make that choice - to move to Haiti to help their government as a consultant; he is aghast at the rhetoric that comes from our President's mouth and the lack of response from Republican congressmen.",
"Baron is a goddamn kid. Doesn't matter if he's an innocent bystander, you don't make fun of someone that age based on what his parents did. I dunno, seems like people disliking my comment are a-okay shittalking someone who has nothing to do with anything.\n\nPathetic.",
"Their inherited socio-economic status will deprive them of opportunities irregardless of if they are in Haiti or America. If you are concerned about improving the socio-economic status of Haitian then direct humanitarian aid is the way to go. It is more efficient to support Haitians in Haiti as compared as supporting them in the US because of purchasing power differences. It also prevents uprooting and dangerous displacement. ",
"Yes.",
"You're welcome to move to Haiti if you like.",
"Is it Haiti or El Salvador?",
"MP ^^",
"Who cares it’s San Francisco\n",
"You're jumping to conclusions here. I don't mimick what Trump does, at the same time I don't get my panties in a bunch about it either. I've been to some of those countries, I've been to some of the worse countries in the world for crime, human rights, etc. I know some people want to and deserve to get out, has full and legal immigration came to a 100% halt from all countries that aren't thriving?",
"You have two republican senators who \"can't recall\" if he said it, which means they're just covering their own ass. \nYou have a democratic senator who said yeah, he definitely said it. \nYou have a third republican senator thanking the democratic senator for what he said, basically confirming he is telling the truth.\nAnd finally you have an official white house statement that doesn't deny he said it.\n\nNow if you're going to sit here and scream \"fake news\", that's on you. But common sense and logic sad yes, he did in fact say it. The burden of proof is on you friend to prove he in fact didn't say it. Trump tweeting that he didn't do it doesn't count, the testimony of a serial liar doesn't hold much ground.",
"I know this, alot of these stolen countries are lambasted because they're still reeling from the exploitation of their colonizers. It makes no sense. \n\nIs this what you tell yourself so you don't have to remember the families and generations chucked into historical oblivion? I hope people remember you with more respect. ",
"Something like \"yeah but it's true they actually are shitholes and it's not racist to say it\" or whatever other meme these brainless drones have been repeating. At least he deleted his comment even if he didn't explicitly acknowledge he was being wrong and racist.",
"Indeed it is! ",
"Nah, then it'll swing right. Politics should be banned from a place called /r/pics, yeah? Pictures only, no politics. If you wany politics, go to /r/politics",
"There will be no valid proof that you will accept, by the sounds of it, but reports that 'US diplomats around the world were summoned for formal reproach, amid global shock that such crude remarks could ever be made in a semi-public meeting by the president of America', and that 'The UN said it was impossible to describe his remarks as anything other than racist, while the Vatican decried Trump’s words as “particularly harsh and offensive”' can be taken as being much more than 'here-say from politically motivated Democrats'.\n\nIf you think that us 'guys were still having an orgasm to the leftist hypocrite Oprah running for president' you've jumped to entirely the wrong conclusion about me, you presumptuous, preposterous nincompoop.",
"It wasn’t an official remark it’s still alleged as far as I know and it was behind closed doors in a private meeting. Also it is a false equivalency, you’re right, because Trump just said they were shitholes, Obama literally started a war, toppled a regime, and destabilized an entire region making it a shithole and didn’t get even 10% the amount of outrage from the left as this comment is getting. ",
"> No facts in there at all, all hearsay and speculation, too funny.\n\nGuess he showed us his tax returns then?\n\n> You don't need political experience to be President. It's your opinion if you think otherwise, not fact. I'm happy he has no political experience.\n\nLol so if Republicans elected a used car salesman that'd be fine because you don't actually *need* political experience to hold the highest office in the country guys! It's just a popularity game! Why the fuck would you need to know anything about politics to be president? And, according to you, that's a *good* thing! To send someone with fuck all clue into the presidency and leave them to their devices. It's not like it's an extremely challenging and stressful position or anything shown by just how much pretty much every president has aged during their term(s). If you can get enough dipshits to vote for you then you've already done enough!\n\nOn a real note, how the fuck do you expect me to take you or any other Trump supporter seriously when these are the things you actually think.\n\n> It mean yo have no idea what or how much business gets done while on the golf course. It's the businessman's game of choice and lots of deals are made while playing.\n\nYou actually think being president is just making deals 24/7 like Trump said it is? That's hilarious.\n\n> That's an opinion that Trump golfs a shit ton\n\n[Oh come the fuck on](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/oct/10/who-plays-more-golf-donald-trump-or-barack-obama/)\n\n> You keep assuming you need political experience to be President. There in nothing in the constitution that say you have to be politically qualified to be President. Your opinion doesn't mean anything.\n\nAgain with this bullshit. It also doesn't say in the constitution that a pile of dog shit can't be president. I wouldn't want a pile of dogshit to be my president, would you? (actually you probably would since you love trump so much)\n\nI don't mean to toot my own horn here but you're kind of getting destroyed. The fact that you've even said you think it's a good thing to have zero political experience in the presidency is enough to show me how versed you are in this sort of deal. And this brings me to the ultimate thing I have against Trump, is that he made the average ignorant dipshit think that their baseless opinions mean more than people with experience and qualifications.",
"And Donald Trump is a gigantic pile of shit... there is no denying it.",
"Hahaha are you serious? What a weak, flailing attempt. You can tell I'm intelligent from my previous remarks. Don't be silly.",
">has full and legal immigration came to a 100% halt from all countries that aren't thriving?\n\nThat's exactly what Trump is arguing for when he said he didn't want people from these shitholes and that's what it sounds like you are arguing for when you try to defend him.",
"Texan here. I applaud anyone willing to speak out against Trump.",
"If you're not, that's great! :) ",
"I haven't looked into it, nor do I care. If the context is this is something he said in private, what do I care? If he said it in a public setting, then shame on him for being tactless. But any day where the news is only reporting on his personal gaffes and not on critiquing his policies is another good day for President Trump. Because rather than trying to get this administration to work for people who vehemently oppose it, but would rather go out of their way to smear it, then they can't honestly expect President Trump to work with them.",
"You're not wrong",
"You wish. Both my parents are from the bay and I've been visiting often for decades.",
"You just complained of logical flaws and then dismissed the issue based on my post history that is a logical fallacy called [an attack ad hominem...](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive). Maybe with a bit of effort you can come up with some actual discussion points.",
"Ahh the old imma blame trump but not have any real facts. Always fun and happens here a lot ",
"Someone who makes comments like this\n\n>Which, statistically, would still be higher than the IQ of Haiti. \n\n>http://humanvarieties.org/2013/01/24/hvgiq-haiti/\n\n>\\>Gets triggered by Trump Derangement Syndrome\n\n>\\>Goes on deranged, irrelevant rant\n\n>What exactly is the dog whistle? Did Trump invent the fact that the [poorest countries on the planet](https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/worlds-richest-and-poorest-countries) are all majority non-white?\n\n>Are you seriously implying that we should suspend any standards for valuation of a country on the sole basis that you think it's being mean to ethnic groups that vastly outnumber the white population on the planet?\n\nin addition to the Oakland comment most definitely has never been to California, let alone Oakland. Where will they get the funds to do so since they spend all their cash buying guns and ammo? \n\nA lot of pro-Trump dudes like this have 50-11 opinions on California without ever being here, and it shows. I've been visiting Oakland almost every month since I was born and I have relatives out there. It's not the \"shithole\" this uninformed gun-toting know-nothing /u/Fnhatic makes it out to be. Ofc, folks like this have a hard time even formulating a coherent opinion if it didn't come straight from the Shithole-in-Chiefs mouth instead. Must be a pitiful life to live. ",
"Isn't it great you live in a country where you can say what you want about your fellow citizens? Sometimes I feel like we take our freedom of expression for granted\n ",
"He's going to make the country start drinking a flavorless mush he calls *Rootmarm*.",
"So essentially you're saying because you're black Haitian don't even bother coming to US? My room mate is from Bosnia first generation of immigration no money or education. Learned English alongside earning his Engineering degree, Now a civil engineer. My Best friend second generation from Trinidad, no money, no education.. Now a honorably discharged combat Medic. Served honorably in Afghanistan and Iraq for 7 years. \n\nEven me myself, am a living contradiction to your comment. \n\nYour argument is quite horse shit.",
"You're grammar youre grammar. You honestly think I give a flying fuck. And that is the mindset of fake news sites. Its so terrible boo hoo. While y'all act like 0buma never said or did anything bad. That mudslim blamed all white people for slavery. That is the most bullshit ever. When European people got to Africa who do you think sold them slave. Wasn't white people seeing as how they was on the 1st visit.",
"Agreed. But reddit has a definite leftist bias",
"I think he's just elaborating on your point. Not every reply is a counterpoint. ",
"I think context matters. No one would care if it was some low level state politician. But when the president says it, a man who's words could literally move the entire stock market, start wars, annihilate entire countries via nuclear weapons. It kinda matters. Especially when he has the power to influence the lives of millions via immigration, or countries through financial assistance totaling to the billions of dollars. So it kinda matters that the president has this view of certain people, coming from a country with an already a troubled past with racism. And considering everything he does is operated on the tax dollars of Americans, many of which comes from the countries he offended. ",
"Which is why people will use the argument, \"who will clean your toliets Republicans?\" Implying that Republicans are the ones who all have Mexican maids/nannies for their kids, which of course is the complete opposite. ",
"A shithole's a way to describe a place not a person but okay",
"What?! Large Cities have homelessness problems?! Call the press! Get the choppers in the air! Biggest story this Century!\n \\s",
"gone with \"covfefe,\" in with \"shithole\"",
"Funny you say that, I think the reason for immigration now is exactly the same reason as before. Promise of prosperity. Fleeing an impoverished country for a brighter future? what has changed? \n\nIll tell you: You're own bias. \n\nWhat the fuck can you possibly mean by the need of American Society except that you've established your self and an influx of foreigners would ruin that for you? Im not an open all boarders type,, but sheesh do some people have their head so far up their own ass.\n\n",
"Wow. Total ignorance is rare, well done.",
"Oh, you get to decide what people's economic leanings are now? You seem to be right-leaning... Aren't you happy to have people claim they're capitalists? ",
"But doesn't the saying go, as you get older and earn more money, you switch from liberal to conservative?",
"Congratulations ",
"Don't get me wrong, i'm left of center, but the people on reddit take this politics shit too far, resorting to name calling and calling for violence. It's disgusting.",
"I’m living in the part of the US I prefer to anywhere else. ",
"*Returns salute*",
"Taking freedom of speech for granted would imply I'm ignoring the obvious threats to it. The only people taking freedom of speech for granted are the ignorant cretins supporting this demagogue who has blatantly admitted he wants to weaken the first amendment because he's a pussy who can't handle criticism.",
"If I were a person of color, you'd be a racist right now.",
"There are people who have been working in the White House for decades. ",
"It doesn't matter whether the journalist believes it, it matters if it's true and since there is no recording that means that it's hearsay",
"Nope, Erdogan's Turkey.",
"Would I? I can’t see your skin color through the internet, oddly enough, so obviously I wasn’t calling you a shithole based on that, but rather your views and how you talk to people. Ergo, no racism. Learn how to use your brain.",
">So essentially you're saying because you're black Haitian don't even bother coming to US?\n\nNo I'm simply stating the obvious that current socio-economic status is a good predictor of [future socio-economic status](http://www.econ.ucla.edu/people/papers/currie/NCDSDOC.PDF)\n\n[There are definitively Haitians that could meet the immigration requirements of a merit based immigration system](http://www.haitiobserver.com/blog/the-richest-families-in-haiti.html)\n\n>Your argument is quite horse shit.\n\nHow can you come to this conclusion when you simply provide unverifiable anecdotal evidence to dismiss statements. However you can statistically compare [purchasing power across countries](https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/PA.NUS.PPP) in regards to the statement made.",
"It's not \"this subreddit\" it's \"this country,\" seeing as most reasonable people feel this way about Trump. ",
"Well for an extreme example, how do you think we should treat Americas actual neo nazis like those charlottesville dudes? I don't think all ideas deserve respect. To be clear - I'm not saying Trump supporters are literally hitler or something retarded like that.",
"I'm Italian and I'm not illegal. \n\nWhile I'm not in the line of fire for any of this it is horrible to see someone mistreat another purely based on the fact they were born in a different geographical location. \n\nI can only imagine how unwanted and angry Haitian immigrants feel about this.",
"Why on the Federal Building ",
"Nevermind the crazy levels of poverty and local gov'ts struggling to provide basic services like clean water. We've got our own *panem et circenses* and it's corn and the news.",
"First of all Obamacare was shit go pay for own healthcare, that's a real shithole president. Also this is not a political sub?.... Go wait for a surgery in a universal healthcare country lol you'll probably die first if it's life threatening... But seriously most people on here who just vehemently hate trump are the problem. If only you guys put this much effort into your actual lives instead of circle jerking to how much you hate a guy who's been delivering on his promises and blowing every minute thing he does out of proportion so when he actually messes up no one notices because we're overloaded with so much fake news that retards keep spewing it like misinformation diarrhea. But yes let's just act like a majority of the country is racist instead of self reflection. People get offended by him calling third world countries shitholes but then those same people stomp on our flag and call our country an oppressive shithole. Irony is at peak levels here.",
"Of course most large cities have homelessness problems to some extent, but don't be obtuse: the problem in SF is out of control. Just look at the progression in the 5 year span of the gif. ",
"You’re Erdogan’s turkey.",
"Sanctuary cities invite immigrants and are very multicultural. Trump is against immigrants. Therefore, a sanctuary city doing this is not at all ironic, it's almost expected.\n\nIf one didn't know what ironic meant, or didn't know what a sanctuary city is (and instead thought they would be pro-Trump), it would be understandable why they would make a comment about it being ironic.",
">Must be a pitiful life to live. \n\nAnd yet, I've watched as you literally spent the last *twenty minutes* editing and re-editing your post, because it hurt your little butt so hard to hear the reality that Oakland is by every metric one of the most dangerous cities in America.\n\nI don't even have to pick comments out of your post history - you post in /r/politics, I don't need to say anything more. It's literally the liberal version of /r/The_Donald, and you have to be exactly as imbecilic to participate there.\n",
"Brigading? This is on the fucking front page of r/pics. It’s a huge default sub on one of the biggest websites in the world. It’s not brigading. It’s just the general population of reddit as a whole who wandered in from the front page.",
"Name 1 that would make a good president.",
"I am a Canadian who is an American political lobbyist. I think I would know a lot more than you, but thank you for your racist and patronizing remarks.\n\nI just “painstakingly detailed how it ISN’T expansion” and you basically just responded by saying “Nu-uh!”.\n\nGo read an introductory book to congressional governance, especially on terminatable legislation. I guess voting to add Medicaid budgeting is considered “expanding” Medicaid too, right? What fucking stupid logic from an abhorrently condescending idiot.",
"Unfortunately this isn't on tape like the time he said \"grab them by the pussy\". I'm sure he'd just chalk this whole shithole stuff up to being \"white house banter\".",
"Maybe, but I have yet to come across a t_d denizen who could be persuaded by actual facts or rational arguments, and I have no further desire to try. So we'll both just move on with our lives now.",
"https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city",
"I think this would be a policy discussion which would be long. You chose one of the three things I said - his qualification - and tried to argue that he's like the top five most qualified politicians in the world. That seems obviously retarded to me, so I don't really think I wanna delve into a whole policy discussion.\n\nedit - to be clear, what I mean here is that I think that almost anyone with some degree of political experience who roughly matches my views would be preferable. almost anyone.",
"I'm a daaawwwggg.",
"",
"What are you talking about? Can you pick up a history book? We didn't \"Conquer\" because we weren't at war. we used the guise \"Manifest Destiny\" to literally take what we wanted from people who already lived here. My ancestors didn't sign up? Sign up for what? My ancestors were enslaved, deceived, displaced, murdered and raped. Additionally, \"When it was hard\" We imported millions of innocents from another land For 200+ years to do the hard work. \n\nThis isn't the military channel.. Families with tradition Hundreds upon hundreds of years old with immense meaning for the community was uprooted, torn, and tossed into a historical furnace. Don't try to glorify the mass murder of indigenous people so you can sleep better. ",
"who's we? Were you there? Did you do it? You shouldnt feel any pride in something you didnt accomplish yourself. This is why Patriotism is so stupid. You're typing like youre the one who did all this shit. You didnt do anything but sit here. \n\nYour analogy is so dumb i actually laughed btw. Hope you dont use that one often. Are you really so dense to think that half the planet would leave their homes to come live under Trump? Most of Europe beats us in every category that should matter to advanced countries. Who cares how many Destroyers we have? It's 2018, we should be fighting over curing diseases and wiping 0ut hunger. ",
"Lol! Why do you lie? That's embarrassing, you thought there was actually a video.",
"Found the trumpster ",
"Well then it is safe to conclude that there are no logical flaws.",
"1-The remark wasn't official\n2-Similar remarks made by white, rural americans during the Obama administration had been labeled as redneck, white trash commentary. Now that these similar comments are upheld by the intellectual \"elite\" they're acceptable to Redditors and the political left? When will the madness of both sides end? Neither of these paths are conducive to meaningful dialogue.",
"Because there was an organizational structure in place and most reputable news agencies have editors and other levels of checks. There were also a limited number of them so verifying the credibility of stories was much easier and a news agency that published fake news would have quickly lost credibility and folded. Not to mention they had assets to protect and publishing lies would leave them open to lawsuits. Individuals working independently don't have those concerns, you would spend more in legal fees than you could possibly expect to recover and even if you went to the trouble the same or another site would just appear the next day.\n\nWhile traditional sources could and almost certainly did shape what \"news\" was and tell the story they wanted heard, the amount of bias with which they did so was kept in check by the means stated above. That limitation isn't in place for some guy working in his basement.",
"Well, that's one of the fundamental differences in opinion between globalism and nationalism. ",
"How can you possibly ignore the extremely well documented FACT that the GDP was growing under Obama? Apart from the expected and meaningless spike in wall street that naturally follows an economically neo-liberal president who promises tax cuts to corporations, and some arguably detrimental deregulation, Trump has signed no legislation that could have any meaningful impact to the economy so far.\n\nTo the contrary, he gifted one of the world's most advancing industry, alternative energy, to France and China, and caused most world leaders to be extremely reluctant in dealing with the US, since his extremely idiotic rhetoric on external policy, reveals he has no fucking clue on how this world keeps its balance economically and strategically.\n\nStart getting your news from somewhere other than Breitbart.",
"Fixing what shit? Economy is growing, stocks are up, jobs are up, tax cuts for everyone, raises for most without upping the minimum wage. Oh I forgot, \"muh racism\".",
"The response you linked was perfect. Obviously the places trump mentioned are a little worse for wear economically speaking, but it’s a completely different story to not only *insult* them, but to then say “why do x people come here?” Completely racist.",
"> I'm Italian\n\nI thought you said you were from one of the countries referred to by him as a shithole country? Why lie about that?",
"That's been the case in Europe and Asia too though, and yet they've managed to recover into not being a shithole. ",
"Oh. Well you don't know my stance on the president. I haven't said a thing about him. ",
"None of this supports your claim that the \"vast majority\" or illegal aliens are criminals. Jesus. \n\nThere are 11 million illegal aliens in the US. 55,000 are incarcerated. Do the simple math. \n\n0.5%??? That's your \"vast majority\"???\n\nStop spewing hyperbolic hate.\n\nEdit:\nThe lowest imprisonment rate in any state is 1.5% of the population. \n\nWith that in mind, it seems illegal aliens are less likely to be criminals than the general population. \n\nAlso, almost 10,000 (9,957 to be exact) of you're aforementioned 55,000 incarcerated illegal aliens were being held by ICE for being illegal aliens and not for any other crime they had committed.\n\nEducate yourself and learn to not hate blindly.",
"Nobody in his family is here illegally. So no, not like his family.",
"You said it, man.",
"Uh ok, not sure your point if any.. \n\nMany laws have been amended over time from their original intent to address modern day conditions..",
"Reeeeee! ",
"\n>And finally you have an official white house statement that doesn't deny he said it.\n\nWrong.",
"You should do a little more research on what was and wasn't said if that's what you think.",
"Typical t_d slug rationale, lol",
"No, it’s one of the differences in opinion between people that can see long-term benefits and people that can’t. If we take a step towards reducing climate change, everyone benefits. Global stability benefits. To be indifferent about this isn’t just putting your own nations well-being over those of others (which is selfish but understandable), it’s shooting yourself in the foot because you don’t like walking. \n\nBasically, I can’t see a way that refusing to address climate change *isn’t* outright dumb as shit. ",
"Lock her up, soyboy. ",
"> Who knows they might build a better country! \n\nOh yeah, which countries in Central/South America or Africa for that matter would you like to emulate?",
"Dogs don’t own cats",
"Jews were being rounded up and put in ovens 70 years ago and yet they've managed to do very well for themselves already so that's a weak excuse.",
"A White House spokesman defended Trump's position on immigration without directly addressing his remarks. White House officials did not dispute the account. \n\n\n\"Certain Washington politicians choose to fight for foreign countries, but President Trump will always fight for the American people,\" spokesman Raj Shah said in a statement issued after The Washington Post first reported Trump's remarks. \". . . Like other nations that have merit-based immigration, President Trump is fighting for permanent solutions that make our country stronger by welcoming those who can contribute to our society, grow our economy and assimilate into our great nation.\"\n\nBut hey, don't bother arguing the other valid points I made. I'm sorry you're just butthurt that you have to continue to defend a liar and an incompetent child.",
"If you had cats, you would know cats own us.",
"> now everyone thinks you are ran by Russia. \n\nOnly functionally retarded people think that. You spend too much time on Reddit.\n\n>Do you not realize that the argument you yourself are using (greatest immigration country), the thing that made you great, is exactly what your president is combating?! \n\nDo you understand the difference between **LEGAL** immigration and **ILLEGAL** aliens who shouldn't be in the country? Because all of these discussions are surrounding people here *illegally*.",
"Yeah well. Not many people on Reddit can admit when they’re wrong. ",
">Promise of prosperity. Fleeing an impoverished country for a brighter future?è\n\n[Also better jobs](http://bruegel.org/2015/09/eu-immigration-to-the-us-where-is-it-coming-from-and-is-brain-drain-real/)\n\n> Ill tell you: You're own bias. \n\nAlso, the advent of [the tertiary industry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertiary_sector_of_the_economy) which makes the need for mass immigration of low skilled workers less relevant.\n\n> What the fuck can you possibly mean by the need of American Society\n\nTo stop relying on mass cheap labor and start focusing on automation and creating higher value jobs.",
"You confuse “immigrants” with “illegal aliens”... if I broke into your house and slept on your couch and ate your food, would you be ok with that? According to you, you would welcome me :) ",
"Oh it's starting to happen mate. I do try to remind neutral so I can see points from both sides. I've never really been political. ",
"I am and I hope I'm wrong about you but that's my analysis of you based on this conversation. I think you're in denial about the effects of the policies you advocate.",
"Sinking down to his level..SMH",
"So do it then. Make sure you build a few more lakes before you go sucking the entire water reserves up. ",
"This. I'm planning on moving to a country with extremely strict immigration and if I choose to live there and gain permanent residence then i have to live there continuously for something like 5 years or marry someone and do 3 years. Guess what? They have very little crime and the police are bored.",
"It's taken for granted because we have something many other countries do not, and we sometimes don't appreciate that and expect it to be the norm. I'm sorry that you are so angry, I hope you have a better day going forward. ",
"Graham has been in Trump's corner for the past several months, so it's no surprise that he hasn't come out publicly and condemned the statement.\n\nSenator Tim Scott (also a Republican) has said that Graham confirmed to him privately that Trump did say it. ",
"That is the third attack ad hominem that you put forward yet you still have to come up with one example of the numerous logical flaws that you mentioned... Do you lack the self awareness that dismissing arguments for its logical flaw then refusing to defend your statement by using a logical fallacy is a logical flaw in and of itself?",
"How ableist.",
"Fuck frisco the shit hole of the states",
"Oh yeah? Well tons of people say Ted Cruz is the zodiac killer and he even retweeted a picture of the killer's notes as a \"joke\". Must be true then, right? ",
"> America is the most powerful country in the world\n\nIt’s like r/shitamericanssay except you’re not even American. What are you doing, man? Did they tell you to say that? Should we send help?",
"Haha i would like that as a right winger, but of course your own personal ideology is all that counts. But I do think the right gets misrepresented around here and from many media outlets.\n\nI personally think it's the best path because it focuses on economic growth that helps people both rich and poor.",
"So dems trying to abolish the 2nd isn’t taking away civil liberties? Shit man, everyone is a crook nowadays... left or right, nobody is happy or good. Citizens should be defending each other against all these dummies in office. Why are we all voting red vs blue every time.",
"No one is mad at the kid. It sucks for him. But fuck the rest of em. Save your fake fuckin outrage ",
"Again, nothing about a nationality is racist. Norway is relatively safe and most of the population has a stable income. El Salvador and Haiti on the other hand are rife with crime and disease. ",
"That makes sense. I think a lot of things are misrepresented due to idiot extremists. The left wouldn't be so bad if they didn't believe every news article or post on social media. ",
"So brave of a city that eradicated their middle class",
"> Guess he showed us his tax returns then?\n\nYou saw his tax return it was leaked. It showed he lost a billion dollars and got a nice long tax break because of it. That allowed him to make all his money back plus. In the business world that's called smart accounting and it's perfectly legal. You can't do that anymore though under the new tax law. \n\n>Lol so if Republicans elected a used car salesman that'd be fine because you don't actually need political experience to hold the highest office in the country guys! It's just a popularity game! Why the fuck would you need to know anything about politics to be president? And, according to you, that's a good thing! To send someone with fuck all clue into the presidency and leave them to their devices. It's not like it's an extremely challenging and stressful position or anything shown by just how much pretty much every president has aged during their term(s). If you can get enough dipshits to vote for you then you've already done enough!\n\nOver opinionated drivel LOL\n\n>On a real note, how the fuck do you expect me to take you or any other Trump supporter seriously when these are the things you actually think.\n\nLOL you think we care if you take us seriously, you have an over-inflated opinion of yourself and you sound like an entitled brat.\n\n>You actually think being president is just making deals 24/7 like Trump said it is? That's hilarious.\n\nYou are spinning what I said, cute. You can do more than just make deals playing golf, but you wouldn't know that, you don't play. \n\n>Oh come the fuck on\n\nI never said Obama played more golf so this post is irrelevant. Reread what I wrote, context is key. \n\n> It also doesn't say in the constitution that a pile of dog shit can't be president.\n\nYou haven't read the constitution have you, \"\"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.\" A pile of dog shit isn't any of those, so the Constitution very much does say dog shit can't be President. It doesn't say though that you have to have any political experience. Your argument is as lame as the pile of shit you tried to use in the comparison. Pretty sad. \n\n>I don't mean to toot my own horn here but you're kind of getting destroyed. The fact that you've even said you think it's a good thing to have zero political experience in the presidency is enough to show me how versed you are in this sort of deal.\n\nYou def. aren't destroying me. You have literally spouted nothing but over opinionated drivel and it's comical. You realize there have been 4 other Presidents that had no political experience right. Trumps is not the first one. \n\n>is that he made the average ignorant dipshit think that their baseless opinions mean more than people with experience and qualifications.\n\nThere you go projecting again. What qualification and experience do you have? ",
"Thing is, i'm pretty liberal, just not a fucking idiot who thinks world peace and utopia exist somewhere in our hands. As long as two people disagree, peace will never happen. Unless you mechanize and transform every human into a robot, people believe differently. Wanna know who Haitians hate? The Clintons for stealing aid money for Chelseas honeymoon. That is apparently fine though, but calling a country a shithole, which was made one by people like HRC is bad? ",
"10",
"A year is almost completely arbitrary. I hate this mentality and mindset. ",
"nice whataboutism you stupid fuck. Where did I say anything about homeless? this isn't a choose one thing, these are completely different issues. But since you asked I do care about the homeless, I've worked at soup kitchens before. What have you done you fucking retard? Besides suck donalds dick. Go play in traffic.",
"I think that’s more of a fallacy. I’m still liberal 10 years after uni despite making a high income and working in finance ",
"No I’m dumbfounded by your double standard",
"... Just a normal person w no anger issues loving the crying babies shitting their pants that don't get their way. ",
"> political lobbyist\n\nYour comments make sense now. And your resort to profanity and ad hominem insults closes the door on any productive discussion - you've clearly gone past the point of rationality. \n\nYou're too close to the cronies to call them out for what you, I mean they, truly are. Have a g'day Mr Lobbyist from Canada. See you in X years when you've been burnt one too many times by the system you currently grease.\n",
"We should just start to refer to him as “Shithole”\nPresident Shithole",
"But you haven't really respond to my comment other than getting triggered because I like Trump and you don't. Therefore I must be a bigot and a cunt right? \nlol look who is acting like one... ",
"And out of \"Every person thats left\" how many went to BEAUTIFUL countries like hati,mexico,iraq,honduras,brazil,Guatemala? Lool I wouldn't VISIT any of these countries if i had all the money in the worlds . Keep lying to yourselves, its cute and pathetic. ",
"Hah, I'm somehow not surprised. I can't watch it now but I will when I get a few. ",
"And let's say that government is doing things you don't like. Things you really don't like. Enough to want to run for office, but oh! Don't rock the boat there jimmy or I'll leak the porn you've been watching and video of you jerking it. \n\nMaybe it won't hurt so much but the framing of your character is now under \"peepee\" congrats, you've been silenced. Take your lobby money and go.",
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"Binary translated: My point ^^",
"Damn you're confused. Conservativism is not what you're into. You just admitted your personal ideals fall in line with anarchism.",
"So trump only wants illegal immigrants from \"good\" countries?",
"Lol, you think I’m embarrassed! You’re the idiot who supports trump! You should be the one who’s embarrassed 😂😂😂",
"But, sarcasm isn't that. ",
"Not to mention he should have never owned that gun in the first place. He is a non citizen, so he has no second amendment rights. Not to mention that he was carrying without a CCW, meaning he was breaking California law. And he was a convicted felon, so he is banned from ever owning a gun in his lifetime. \n\nHow this guy got away with nothing when he illegally owned firearms in the most gun control crazy state in the country blows my mind. Getting away with killing someone at the same time? Fucking unbelievable. ",
"Not true. More people still identify as a conservative than liberal in this country. ",
"You didn't have anything resembling a point so what kind of response did you want? Trump is garbage, plain and simple. Sorry it triggers you so, you delicate little flower.",
"economic growth is anarchism? Sign me up then!",
"If you were a homeless person, would you rather live in Buffalo NY where temps are below freezing for half the year, or sunny coastal California where you don't have to worry about dying from Hypothermia?\n\nAll I'm saying that it's natural for homeless populations to congregate in wealthy metropolitan areas in temperate climates.",
"I didn’t... “if you are an immigrant (like myself) **or** from these “shithole counties”\n\nAnyway I don’t see how where I come from changes anything ",
"Good bot",
"That 76.9% is for the United States not San Francisco stupid. Can't you see the big **X** next to San Francisco???? ",
"Maybe in Malta.",
"So you can check posting history too, huh?\n\nI'm not really sold on the whole Malta stuff, I'm pushing for Canada.",
">University of Texas\n\nCould you at least name drop a *good* university like A&M? \n\nI went to a big fancy school as well and met a few useful Africans myself. All white of course. The negro is an obsolete creature, like a dinosaur in the ice age. It needs to freeze and die. You only like Africans because they play football for you. ",
"So every illegal immigrant you have met is a nice person, but because the TV tells you every illegal immigrant is a violent criminal rapist, you believe that 'typically' they all must be. What is the point in bringing up your anecdote if it gies against what you believe?",
"Yrs. Im not even old enough to understand what meme's is yet.",
"Nope- But it's apparent based on your response that you hail from the San Francisco area and enjoy shitting where you sleep. You are part of the reason it smells in San Francisco so much. ",
"> Whats really messed up is places all across the US that give homeless people an option of being arrested or taking a bus ticket to SF. \n\nCan you provide a credible source for this? Because I don't think this is a thing. Your making some really outlandish claims here.",
"Are you saying that because I know a handful of illegals that I know for a fact that every single one of them is a nice person? Yikes.",
"I'm happy I voted for Trump. I'll do it again in a few years.",
"If there's one thing San Francisco knows about it's shitholes. Have fun with your AIDS",
"I got the exact same tax refund this year that I got last year down to the dollar amount so I really don't think Trump had anything to do with it. Furthermore, if the primary factor behind your voting decisions is \"will this annoy librul snoflakes?\" then you have some very serious issues. ",
"Only after you did and unlike you I didn’t use it to attack you or dismiss your comments~.",
"Lol found the fake republican account. Your blatant racism makes me think that you are an anti-trump supporter pretending to be a white supremacist in order to give Trump supporters a bad name...not cool dude...you ain't helpin with that bs\n\n\nAlso i graduated top 8% of my high school class so i was automatically accepted into both A&M and UT. Both are great schools but being from Austin I preffered to go to UT.",
"Probably yes but i dont rlly care they can read job done u corrected them all so yeah its readable",
"Care to link these stats you seem so fond of? Trump supporters are always screaming about these stats and about how great a job he's doing because of the \"stats\" but they never have anything to substantiate their claims. I half expect you won't even reply to this comment, though maybe now that I've said that you'll feel a bit more obligated. ",
"The people might be wealthy, but the state itself is broke af. ",
"*Shithole City",
"Aren't they also the ones that made knowingly transmitting HIV legal? ",
"Who said I didn't want to address climate change? Of course I do. Pretty much every major company within the US already has initiatives in place to be more green anyway. The funds the US would funnel into the PCA would have been likely misused and ineffective. I'm all for an agreement, just with more specific requirements for the developing countries to actually make a difference.",
"You forgot the /s",
"> You saw his tax return it was leaked. It showed he lost a billion dollars and got a nice long tax break because of it. That allowed him to make all his money back plus. In the business world that's called smart accounting and it's perfectly legal. You can't do that anymore though under the new tax law.\n\nYou mean the one from 2005? Why nothing recent like he said he would release if he won?\n\n> Over opinionated drivel LOL\n\nGreat argument. Your \"opinion\" that it's actually good for a president to have zero political experience is fucking stupid and isn't based in any real life evidence and you deserve to be called out and mocked for it.\n\n> LOL you think we care if you take us seriously, you have an over-inflated opinion of yourself and you sound like an entitled brat.\n\nHow am I entitled or arrogant for thinking you're a dumbass? Nothing you've said to me sounds intelligent and it just sounds like baseless conjecture. Every time I bring up real facts you just deflect or play this stupid \"I'm not conservative or liberal\" shit like it actually matters.\n\n> You are spinning what I said, cute. You can do more than just make deals playing golf, but you wouldn't know that, you don't play.\n\nLmao and I'm the entitled one. You seem to think that because I don't play golf that you can sit here and lecture me on how it's actually a great place to do presidential business (it's not, and you don't have to play golf to know that)\n\n> You haven't read the constitution have you, \"\"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.\" A pile of dog shit isn't any of those, so the Constitution very much does say dog shit can't be President. It doesn't say though that you have to have any political experience. Your argument is as lame as the pile of shit you tried to use in the comparison. Pretty sad.\n\nCool you took apart my pile of dogshit statement and are now patting yourself on the back. For real though you know exactly what the fuck I meant so stop playing semantics like a smartass because it doesn't actually help your position at all.\n\nEdit: just because you're really that dumb I'll spell out what I meant for you: I meant that just because something isn't explicitly stated to be illegal in the constitution does not mean it's a good thing.\n\n>You realize there have been 4 other Presidents that had no political experience right. Trumps is not the first one.\n\nAnd 3 of them were among the worst presidents we've ever had. The only good one, Eisenhower, was at least a high ranking general and had a decent grasp of the political climate from being so close to it. Trump's got none of that though yet you expect him to be great. \n\n> You def. aren't destroying me. You have literally spouted nothing but over opinionated drivel and it's comical.\n\nIf that's what you want to believe then sure.\n\n> There you go projecting again. What qualification and experience do you have?\n\nI didn't say I have qualification or experience so stop putting words in my mouth. My point is that I'm more willing to trust those who do, and pretty much everyone with qualification and experience in terms of politics agrees that Trump's a fucking joke. This includes everyone alive right now who's actually held the president's office. \n\nThis doesn't mean I blindly listen to others, but when what they're saying is obvious and backed by facts then yeah, I'm going to roll with that rather than whatever bullshit stupid hick Trump voters believe \n\n\n\n\n",
"No that would be belief that only your personal ideals are what count. You're not so good at this. ",
"Except they didn't. ",
"I'm voting for two terms (literally).",
"I'm not your shithole, assclown.",
"I haven't advocated for any policies in this thread. The only thing I said is that \"3rd world country\" is a silly term that literally says nothing about poverty or corruption levels, and for accuracy's sake shouldn't be used. \n\nYou said \"that's why we call it the third world\" without any idea what the term actually means. That was the entirety of my point. No idea how you get my political or economic leanings from that.",
"He is well received by the people that voted for him (me). And by the people that actually dig in and look at his policy decisions (as he has done a good job).",
"No, that's 55,000 in federal prisons, and 296,000 in state prison. You have misread it. The thing about crime is there's a lot that goes unreported, for any demographic. There's a lot more people who should be in jail, especially since just inherently illegals are committing the crime of living here illegally. \n\nIt's unfair to compare our 310 million Americans to 11 million immigrants, if you don't use ratios. \n\nIn 2008 there were 1,610,446 prisoners total. So with the figure that there was about ~350,000 illegals in prison, you're about 8x more likely to be a criminal if you're an illegal alien than if you were a regular US citizen. That prisoner total is about .58% of the US population. Taking into account the illegals in that total, that's about 3% of illegals in prison.\n\nAnd no, you're doing this all wrong. There's 55,000 federally imprisoned illegals, and then 296,000 illegals in state prison. If you take that 10,000 number, you're adding it to the equation, not including it.\n\nI'm not hateful, I have no clue where you're getting this from. I care about my people, this foreign population is not supposed to be here, there's too much crime coming from this foreign population, it is hurting my people and taking the money away from my people.",
"https://youtu.be/e8fsfwo6R-Y",
"Did I say _I_ am a sanctuary city?\n\nEven if I was, if the intruder cleaned my house and tended my vegetables in exchange for eating my food, maybe I wouldn't care that much.\n\nAlso, not all immigrants are\"illegal aliens\", but all \"illegal aliens\" are immigrants.",
"I don't think getting attention equals working a crowd. You give him too much credit.",
"You'll have to explain like I'm 5 why i'm an anarchist from my comments above. Feel free to quote the portion you are referring to.",
"That's also a false equivalency... You're comparison is between words and actions",
"America's fucked.",
"Great, but I'm saying voting won't fix shit. Most of America could listen, and if they didn't live in a swing state, it wouldn't matter.",
"No, I am not. I just find it suprising that someone would have so much personal experience on such a matter, but disregard it over what 'typically' happens.",
"In an interview where he also admitted to being over a hundred years old, to firing the gun three times, and to being 5ft away from the victim when she was struck.\n \nHuh, I wonder why an interview like that wouldn't sway many jurists opinions. ",
"The man was literally convicted of illegally possessing a firearm. You don't know what you're talking about by the sounds of it. ",
"Hati is a shithole, that is the point. It's not hard to see.. ",
"Why not? There are public comments. I can use anything you write to attack you, and I don't mind you doing the same.",
"I agree criminals like him shouldn't be in the country. I disagree that that somehow has any bearing on what the correct verdict was. ",
"I'm not the one gargling Trump's balls on the internet.",
"Proof or I don't believe you and if said proof indeed shows this, might I suggest a better accountant.\n\nI never said my voting motivation was to annoy LIBERAL snowflakes, you did. Nice try though and check you spelling on librul, fyi.",
"Now go pat yourselfs on the back cuz you sure showed him. Activism is cool but this is just pussy shit. If you really don't like him do something about it but you won't.",
"When you attack the person and not the argument you’ve already lost.",
"I saw 2 Prius sittin there and I automatically thought California...why?",
"This was not an intercepted private conversation... The outrage is coming by most of the population. Also, your average liberal is nowhere near the stupidity found in r/t_d. Be honest. ",
"Wow. You sound like a real winner. ",
"Sick whataboutism brother! ",
"And Donald Trump is a shithole, it's not hard to see. More than one thing may be a shithole, you may be surprised to learn.",
"If you live in Florida you can get a job at the military base defending pedophiles but it kinda sounds like hard work and they don't give you a lot to work with.",
"They couldn't prove he stole the gun. They had zero evidence other than it being in possssion, and while I do agree it might be likely he stole it, they needed to prove that beyond a reason doubt and they couldn't come close. \n \nThe prosecution literally agreed the bullet ricocheted. You claiming a ricochet can't kill someone is insane. \n \nThat's not how that works. Yes, you can be held responsible for deaths that occur while committing a felony under certain circumstances, but it's not nearly as simple as you make it out to be. This circumstance didn't qualify. \n \nThe experts stated there were ricochet marks and all the news articles reported as such. You want to show me the source where they're saying otherwise? ",
"I've met about 6 illegals, meaning people who spent the money to smuggle themselves in this country, not including their family i.e. children, they're innocent and don't have a place in the discussion.\n\n1 was an absolute deadbeat. He was quite nice to me, but he was gang affiliated. Another pair was a couple my aunt knows. They're really nice, they're really grateful to be here. They did it recently, last time I met them they were speaking fluent english, the time before that they were speaking broken english. I'm proud of them, but I wish they had come here legally. The next 3 are just friends I know from a big group of friends that play playstation together. Regular people, unfortunate situation. Again, I wish they came here legally.\n\nYou understand that for my personal experience were to matter, I would have to have met hundreds, maybe thousands?",
"Don't need to learn that. I have seen many with my own eyes. \nYour comment to bash trump is one of them, you may be surprised to hear. ",
"Chinese new year? ",
"> You can tell I'm intelligent from my previous remarks. Don't be silly.\n\nI think you are vastly overestimating how \"intelligent\" you are coming across. Nothing you have said so far makes me think \"this is an intelligent guy, even though I disagree with him\". ",
"This makes sense. I can totally understand any negative angry impression by people affected by his words, btw. I mean, I think his latest twitter said something along the lines of \"yeah but uuhh I didn't insult the people\" but he might just be trying to save his ass",
"They lowered it from a felony to a misdemeanor, which is still more than many states have. ",
"And I acknowledge and at one time held that argument. But now I think “release it!” Hell, it would make me look like a better candidate since I’d run in a platform that would do away with these programs. But jerking it is natural so I really don’t have any shame in it. ",
"It was a comparison not an equivalency... those are two different things. My entire comment was based around the fact that the two (Obama’s actions and Trumps words) are not interchangeable. ",
">No buddy",
"You let them brainwash you cuz you mentally equate it to a rich/poor struggle when its a divide and conquer thing. Dems= young edu Reps= old rich. You're fucked.",
"\nThis doesn't make any sense here though? so due to the exposure of SES they had no control over, you want to subject people to a formula that discounts potential growth due to better SES opportunity? this doesn't even support what you said, that they would do better being supported in their own country? I think you are mishandling that paper. it doesn't account for immigrants as a population. which is what we are talking about. \n\n[I think this data better represents what im talking about.](https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/college-educated-immigrants-united-states) \n\nSo here's proof positive that Immigrants are perfectly capable of assimilating and taking advantage of opportunities here. And that people are deserving of an opportunity that they sought for them self. \n\n",
"Thanks for telling me how to think stranger.",
"Has he even tweeted that he didn’t say it?",
"You mean those same senators that are always shilling out for corporations that reddit even called out on the front page? Yes they would lie if it advanced them.",
"> sanctuary cities will and do turn felonious illegal immigrants over to federal authorities\n\nDo you really believe this? ",
"Wait, what?",
"You're confused about the ideals of the different political systems. Your use of narrative words like \"cheerleading\"\"right and left wingers\" and attempting to quantify culture like an 1860s imperialist make it clear you're speaking from nothing but personal narrative, not a framework of political science. On top of that you've made it very clear your number one ideal is belief in your personal terministic screens. (K. Burke) Literally the number one tenet of post century anarchism. ",
"Ahhh Wouldn't be interesting to have to live in the conditions the United States created for other people! \n\nUnited States was Directly involved with the overthrowing, and replacement of several governments in the regions you mentioned. You're heavily concerned about your own well being and maintaining your status with little regard to the fact that we reached this point by stepping on the backs of the less fortunate. ",
"You need to learn the difference between debt and deficit, friend",
"The irony is that San Fransisco is having a hepatitis outbreak due to the fact that its residents like to take shits outside. ",
"Hahaha shithole trump hahaha bernie bernie bernie karma karma karma circle jerk ",
"And your comment to try to deflect back to another topic is another example. This post is about the shithole President, not other countrues. Try to stay on topic. I know you vapid Trumpites struggle with that.",
"Again, I was not even interested in attacking the argument. I didn't lose because I didn't participate in that.",
"Unfortunately both parties are okay with spying on you. Fewer Democrats were for it but the 'leaders' of the resistance Schiff and Feinstein sure voted for it. ",
"Not wanting is not hating. Besides that, there are plenty of white people living in \"shithole countries\" too.\nThe whole lottery immigration thing was always quite strange: it's generally not in the best interest of the country. No other countries do that.",
"And yet the ANC keeps holding onto a significant majority. ",
"Ther countries are shitholes, he said it behind closed doors as well. I am sure there has a lot worse said behind those doors. This is another outrage over nothing. They countries are shitholes, it's not racist saying that.",
"Wow, i can't even believe you..\n\nOf all the mass extermination attempts around the globe, Bosnian genocide, Armenian Genocide, Guatemalan genocide, Rwandan Genocide, Chinese genocide (Rape of ninking) You are seriously going to pick the exception as the rule?\n\nYou're sick dude. seriously you talk about these peoples live with very little consideration for their humanity. ",
"So you lost then.",
"Funny you never give your \"news\" source you cited that from....",
"Yes, they are *vastly* less likely to commit a criminal act than a natural born citizen",
">I didn't say I have qualification or experience\n\nThen you have no room to say anything and are a joke. You just contradicted your whole argument ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Damn your easy to bait. ",
"It's not fake, it's basic decency to call out bullshit.",
"11 and 12",
"He's made that quite clear via Twitter: \nhttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951793123985973248",
"Wow, are you back to being unable to understand again?",
"Countrymen? \n\nWhere are these *countrymen* who support a Russian coup in the US?\n\nI get you made a mistake...but for fucksake...now that you know Why continue to suck putin's cock? \n\n",
"Thanks, not surprising, those that are triggered on here are already down-voting me without giving much thought to what I have put forth. There's a lot of psychological programming at play regarding what I have posted beforehand.",
"So you’re unable to understand simple logic.",
"Sorry that's my line.",
"What can we throw against President Trump, and have it stick today?\n\n-Leaked private conversations with Billy Bush? Nope.\n\n-Fake Russia Collusion narrative, with no evidence after a year? Nope.\n\n-Hiring false accusers who have links to the Clinton Foundation? Nope.\n\n-Claim he has dementia, even though he kicked the Left's ass? Nope.\n\n-Claim falsely he paid hush money to an adult film star? Nope.\n\n-Claim he said the word \"shithole\" to trigger leftists? Nope.\n\n-Manipulate the mainstream \"news\" to pump anti-Trump rhetoric 24/7? Nope.\n\n-Manipulate Luciferian celebrities to give speeches falsely claiming a \"moral high ground\", while dressed in Luciferian color of black? Nope.\n\nWell then what's next? Looks like we will have to crash the economy and blame it on him.\n\nSeriously, I don't care if you're liberal, hate Trump, etc; but take a step back and give the bigger picture some serious thought. I don't love/worship Trump, and I'm not from r/Donald. Believe me, or don't believe me.\n\nIf you really buy into the daily dose of hatred that is being pushed out for you to consume, you're wasting your own life for someone else's agenda up the chain. Always ask Cui Bono? Who Benefits?\n\nYou have a limited amount of time on this planet, don't waste it on negative influences.",
"What the fuck are you talking about and what does Clinton's policy proposals about fracking have to do with her stance on net neutrality? Also, correction, fracking for natural gas is faaaaaaaaaaaaaar less damaging from an environmental perspective than coal or tar sands. ",
"He isn’t going to run! He isn’t going to be nominated! He isn’t going to win! He isn’t going to make it one year! Okay this time he isn’t going to be re-elected! Reeee!!!! ",
"Considering trump broke that record 3/4 of the way through his first year, do you really want to bring that up?",
"I'm 24, I don't use an accountant. I received $1200 in tax refunds last year, same as this year thanks to the American Opportunity tax credit for college students. By the way, this credit was created in 2009 by president Obama. So it looks like I actually have Obama to thank for my tax refund this year, not Trump. Thanks Obama!\n\nAdditionally, my spelling of the word liberal there was very much intentional, I feel it properly conveys the level of stupidity of anybody who would use the term \"liberal snowflakes\". \n\n*Edit: Just took a look at your post history and I'm about 80% convinced you're a Russian troll. \"Very funny, not the least bit true. ALL, literally ALL the violence in this country as it relates to politics, comes from the left.....every bit of it.\" That's an actual quote from your post history. Holy shit I can't believe I actually wasted my time on you. ",
"Lmao yeah this just proves you lost. My original statement:\n\n> And this brings me to the ultimate thing I have against Trump, is that he made the average ignorant dipshit think that their baseless opinions mean more than people with experience and qualifications.\n\nMy opinions aren't baseless because I've sat here and told you a million reasons why Trump is incompetent and shouldn't be in office. Your opinions are baseless as fuck however because all you've managed to tell me is that it's somehow a good thing to not know what the fuck you're doing as president and that golf is actually a great place to do presidential work.\n\n> Damn your easy to bait.\n\n*You're \n\nand no, I'm not, because it's not bait to put words in someone's mouth and then get them to \"contradict\" themselves on something they never said. Great try though, if this is all you can come up with then I think we're done here.",
"I don't think anybody wants illegal immigrants from anywhere. The comment you're referring to was from [Dick Durbin who has a history of lying about shit like this](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/01/12/flashback-that-time-dick-durbin-made-up-a-story-about-a-gop-leader-insulting-pre-n2433826).",
"Why are they an exception?",
"Next time we actually have a president that the majority of voters voted for I’m sure they’ll be treated a bit differently.",
"> the conditions the United States created for other people! \n\nReally? Every single country in Africa, central American and South America is the way it is because of the the US? Get real.",
"Ah ok then, the resounding support of Cotton and Perdue of “I don’t recall him saying” instead of support of “no he didn’t say that” is quite convincing too",
"I mean, Chicago is a tourism magnet too. It's still a crime infested shithole. Property is expensive in San Fran because Chinese millionaires buy so much property. ",
"OK, then how about the fact that [Dick Durbin has been caught lying about this kind of shit before](https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/01/12/flashback-that-time-dick-durbin-made-up-a-story-about-a-gop-leader-insulting-pre-n2433826), does that change things?",
"What kind of projector dose this take to do?",
"As the one who started with ~$100/mo income I do not buy this bullshit about income inequality at all. There's no such thing as income equality, it's a fiction and cannot be achieved without literally not paying people for their labor. You mentioned russia - that's how they were operating in commies times, the income was \"equal\".\n\nIf you want to understand how I see the PC \"culture\" - just watch the South Park episodes about PC Principal, they nailed it pretty close. They have a fucking ton of a good points there.\n\nNot saying offensive things is fine, but nowadays people become \"offended\" by literally anything and then the witchhunt begins.\nPC is about hiding your real thoughts but still doing any bad things to the people or groups you don't like.\nPC will not end the civilization, it simply makes you vulnerable to those, who doesn't give a shit about PC nonsense. They see it as a weakness and exploit it.",
"I didn't say convict him of murder. But possession of a firearm by a felon when you have a dead girl as a result is not acceptable. \n\nI don't care if he was shooting at the stars. He fired a weapon in public and as a result someone died. ",
"My sincere apologies; here you go: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/unkind-divisive-elitist-international-outcry-over-trumps-shithole-countries-remark",
"Quit trying to sound smart. Hearsay has nothing to do with whether the source is anonymous.",
"You’re right. Slavery was black peoples fault like all of America’s other problems.",
"Get over it. Your team lost and you can't handle it. Trump isn't Hitler, didn't break any laws, is making the country great again. ",
"Okay, then save yourself the time and just link me to one of those previous discussions of yours. ",
"Link?",
"It’s true, I was really drunk",
"Love how liberals think they are so much better. So high and mighty. Standing on some moral ground..\nYet they keep trying to set the bar lower and lower",
"You have yet to use logic one time in our entire discussion.",
"Shithole state calls president a shithole ",
"I used specific wording that is not inclusive of all countries.",
"I don't know? Why did you select Jews and not Armenians to carry your point?",
"Not a Russian troll dipshit. Just somebody who has a different opinion than the Reddit Hive mind. Live in San Diego, own my own business, 48 years old, so, no, not a Russian troll but that's some funny shit in any case.\n\nBack to your taxes. You have not enough life experience or income history to know yet if Trump's tax cuts will help you. I'm guessing you make under $40,000 a year so the amount of taxes you would pay would be near zero or negligible at best. The \"tax credit\" you refer to is not a refund! It's money given to you by other taxpayers like myself. It's a gift, a handout by the left to keep you on the plantation so to speak. You're too young to even know it yet but as you get older, earn more and see huge chunks of your money being siphoned off by government to be wasted, you'll change your tune.\n\nCheck back in with me in 20 years once the idealism of youth has worn off and you gain some life experience.\n\nHave a fantastic day.",
"Trump wasn't referring to illigal immigration, he's just a racist idiot who wants to keep certain types of people out of america, your comment about this being about illigal immigration is just an attempt to defend an indeffensable presidency. You can say as many times as you want that Trump said it's not true...but he lied so much that you just can't be sure if it is or not.\n\nIf Obama, the Bushes, Clinton or any other president had done and said just one or two things that Trump has already, they would be out of there in an instant.\n\nIf americans as a people want to be stricter as to whom immigrates there, it's your own country and you are free to choose it...but, even ignoring that that is going in a different direction that you have been going for a century, if you do it in a racist manner you are going to get called out on it by the entire world, just like you have been policing the world for decades.",
"So I suppose you have another set of excuses for the dozens of other \"shithole countries\" then right?",
"",
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"You can suppose what ever you like. ",
"> he's just a racist idiot \n\nHe is? And yet [black unemployment just hit an all time low last week](http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/05/news/economy/black-unemployment/index.html) - literally the lowest rate of unemployment for black people in recorded history, just one year into his presidency. He must be the worst racist ever huh?",
"I don't know as many Armenians, but I suppose the point still stands. They seem to be doing alright too.",
"I'm legitimately curious, how do you explain shit like that to yourself? The evidence goes against your worldview, so I'm curious how you square that with reality?",
"I've been saying shithole every day for years now... well at least five days a week. ",
"Great let’s all sink to his level. Genius.",
"I love Vancouver! It's just like San Francisco, except without the nice weather, jobs, and amazing SF food scene.",
"Your words not mine.",
">‘The stock market will do its thing’ except its consistently been bull every month and broken numerous record highs this year which didn’t occur in the last two presidencies \n\nThe stock market has had an upwards trend since it's inception, it has hiccups and cycles but in any given 50 year period it increases, we're in a bull market on that trend and bound for a correction any time here soon, my guess would be about 5 years when people start defaulting on student loans, but I'm no economist.\n\n>The corporation tax cuts have already led to higher investment and more wages, the news has been inundated with these stories, it’s almost as if he knows economics. You calling them ‘bullshit’ isn’t convincing\n\nIt's almost as if reactionary policies get reactionary results, though I'd love to see the reports of sector wide wage growth and investment.\n\n>Lol Isis has not been losing before trump. They still had Mosul and Raqqa until fairly recently.\n\nISIS has been losing ground for years and operating procedure didn't change much under Trump, it takes some time to take a city from guerilla fighters.\n\n>Puerto Rico is not and has never been a race issue even though trump’s opposition is obsessed with race. It’s pretty well documented what got sent to Puerto Rico and what got sent back by the governor.\n\nResponse to Houston vs response to Puerto Rico. Trump went on a racist tirade on immigration policy literally yesterday what do you mean it's not about race Jesus Christ.\n\n>Lastly you finish up with ‘muh russia’ meme. The peak of ideological laziness. It used to be that everyone who disagreed with you is a nazi but now they’re a Russian apparently? Are you aware of the pro-Clinton Facebook ads posted by Russians? Maybe you know about the uranium one deal? Hell you don’t even need to know those to debunk this stupid russia myth. Hillary won the popular vote. What kind of election rigging and collusion gives your opposition more votes? Fuck out of here with that. \n>\n\nYes I'm aware of the pro Clinton ads, I'm also aware of the pro Bernie ads and pro Trump ads and pro Stein ads and pro Johnson ads, the Russians were diddling around in our election by sowing disharmony.\n\nUranium one is so thoroughly debunked that a Fox news host went off on it, no uranium ever left the country and Hillary Clinton likely never even saw the paper that her undersecretary signed allowing investment by Russians in a Canadian company.\n\nI said nothing about rigging, my specific gripe is astroturfing, or spreading bullshit and easily falsifiable information for the purpose of confusing the public discourse. Which is precisely what you are doing right now. Like I said, gimme a break dude.\n",
"So I guess you're forgetting French colonial rule/exploitation of Haiti for over a century, huh.",
"She’s already said ‘they’ve given up superpower status’. She’s probably also said worse things about him behind closed doors. Really if you don’t think politicians talk shit about one another you’re naive. The only thing that changed here is it got leaked.",
"I don’t care. Also I never said that.",
"Mmm. Yes, because that's where I'd rather have the, say, 12,000 dollars I'd keep with lower tax rates: in the hands of government, spending their money on social programs I don't want, and infrastructure that was already paid for, but the resources for which were pillaged to pay for pet projects.",
"Ir doesn't matter if he intentionally fired into the crowd. It is a fact that the bullet did not ricochet and it traveled in a straight line to the target.\n\nEven if it was an accidental discharge he was a felon and if you kill someone while committing a felony, felon in possession of a firearm and public discharge of a weapon by a felon.. it is manslaughter at the very least.\n\nFurthermore he originally admitted to police that he pulled the trigger, the story changed after talking to his lawyer.",
"I hope one day perhaps you may expand your definition of humanity to include people with opinions other than your own.",
"Love how conservatives think they are so much better. So high and mighty. Standing on some moral ground..\nYet they keep trying to set the bar lower and lower",
"What evidence? Didn't the US participate in overt and covert operations of Forced or coerced Regimen change in: Panama, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Hawaii, Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, Russia, Syria, Afghanistan, Kuwait, and a host of other countries? Or are you ignorant to the fact? \n\nEdit: Im Latin American, Previous generations of mine DID live in a time where US sponsored terrorist groups where trained and released into our country to combat the fear of Communism. (A fear the US held, NOT Guatemala.)",
"I don’t think that makes sense? I’m just fine, I’ll make 200K this year at 32. My bonus is more than the average person makes in a year. I just don’t mind paying taxes to support those less fortunate.",
"I love how liberals cannot come up with any original ideas, so they ride on the idea coattails of failed leaders and movements.\n\nAlso, I thoroughly enjoy that most people assume if you aren't one, you must be \"the other\".",
"The amount of conservative butthurt over this is hysterical.",
"It's a pretty big thread man.",
"That's correct, I even stated this fact several times. I'm not using logic against you, because I believe you are unable to understand and accept it.\n\nAnd I'm right, obviously, because you are unable to understand that I'm not using logic, even when I stated and accepted this several times, thus proving me right.\n\nI'm not arguing logically, I'm just attacking you, and all Trump supporters, with whatever I think of at that point in time. Because that's how Trump supporters' own arguments are formed: just support whatever Trump says, and ignore everything else.\n\nYou should be familiar with it.\n\nAnyway, it's 23.37 PM in Erdogan's Turkey. This was nice, see you tomorrow!",
"But is that \"100 dollar percent bills\" or \"100 percent dollar bills\"?",
"The president of the United States of America. Donald J. Trump :). \n\nMAGA\n\n2 terms\n2 genders\n2 scoops of ice cream!\n\nCan't wait for 2020 reactions. I'll post a YouTube vid literally doing a rofl. Rolling all over the floor at how hard the democrats think Reddit, Twitter and Facebook can be used as a weapon to stop a President. \n\nBEST TIMELINE FOLKS\n\nIt's like the civil war all over but through the internet and the MAGA is winning. ",
"I do like shitting where I sleep, that’s why I asked. I fucking love shitting on your wife’s face.",
"Ye and it gets leaked every other day when it is Trump.\n\nAlso there is a difference between \"your country is a shithole\" and \"your country has given up superpower status\".",
"Ok",
"Wildly embraced.. ohh hahaha. That is about as funny as the right talking about fake news. ",
"Congratulations. You understood not a single thing I said.",
"Or every single state is working against his decisions...\n\nHow is this even a discussion?! He has made racist statement after racist statement! ",
"I suffer from TDS, so Can you please give me like 3 or 4 more examples of Trump making \"unkind but undeniably true\" statements? This is the 100th time so it shouldn't be too tricky",
"i'm not an architect/geologist but a lot of those lots and hillsides rest on terrain that isn't like stable to build like substantially sized structures on, especially with all the earthquakes in the bay. (that's what i heard anyway). also, to the west is Daley City, which basically touches SF, is all residential, and fully developed as well. don't get me wrong, the rent is outrageous in the Bay but a lot of it is due to supply v. demand and not simply government policies like it's often made out to be. (although, the city could definitely do more to fix the problem). i mean people are paying like $800 a month to live on people's couches in the city of SF but if you cross the bridge to the east bay the rent is more affordable. still way too fucking high IMHO but cheaper than the city.",
"Such as?",
"‘Member when people had nothing better to do? I member",
"shithole covfefe",
"Lol so Graham publicly denies it but privately tells other Senators that he did say it. Gotcha",
"Sure, but you left out Japan, Germany etc for some reason. And you're still not explaining how all of the dozens of other countries in Africa and latin America that are shit holes for some other unexplainable reason.",
"No. I want foreigners to come work for a fair and honest wage because we need it and they need it so it's a win win for us all. \n\nAnd if they lack education, so what? America is pretty good with education. ",
"I do not recall those headlines. Please share via links.",
"The donald? ",
"https://www.google.pt/search?q=trumps+racist+remarks&oq=trumps+ra&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.5032j0j4&client=ms-alps-full_k15tb_a-pt&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8",
"Cheap labor? Importing Scandinavians and Norwegians from their higher standard of living out to the us to deal with this crap, THAT's going to be expensive. \n\nThe only other Cheap labor i can think of is exporting jobs entirely to other countries, doesn't get cheaper than that.\n\nUnskilled Labor isn't cheap or useless, and while the future of unskilled labor looks bleak, it's a point of fact that if we eliminated all foreign unskilled labor TODAY, the country would fall into disrepair.. no question. \n\nYou think they're going to automate general contracting? Automated road workers? Thats how the US was and IS being built. Numerous people are involved in the planning and processing but ultimately low paid, hard working, unskilled laborers set out everyday to do the menial physically tiresome jobs that can't be readily automated. not now, not in the near future.",
"You cared enough to insult me. Which proves you wrong.\n\nI'm so damned smart my adversaries destroy themselves in tear-stained anger and jealousy. \n\nCome on over to the Democrat side. We've accepted many Republicans. We'll accept you too.\n\n",
"Thanks for the opportunity to address this. Are you willing to honestly engage in a conversation about that Snopes article?\n\nIn this thread we are discussing whether mainstream sources have a history of being caught in lies in their use of anonymous sources. Let's look through your snopes link and see how many examples there are of articles based on anonymous sources being caught in lies, okay? I'll go through each link in that article:\n\n1. [First link](https://www.snopes.com/trump-g7-no-notes/) discusses a false image meme. Not applicable.\n\n2. [Second link](https://www.snopes.com/president-trump-gives-finger/) discusses a viral gif which misleadingly shows Trump giving a world leader the middle finger. Not reported on by the mainstream media, nothing to do with anonymous sources. Not applicable.\n\n3. [Third link](https://www.snopes.com/2017/06/27/trump-modi-handshake-hug/): Newsweek reported that Indian PM Modi avoided Trump's pushy hand shake by giving him a hug, but neglected to mention that Modi had a history of giving hugs to world leaders. A legitimate criticism for sure, but Newsweek is not exactly a top-tier journalism outlet. The snopes article also mentions the Daily Mirror, which is a straight up tabloid. All in all, these are good examples of lower quality outlets showing bias against Trump, but not relevant to your point about journalists making up lies based on anonymous sources.\n\n4. The [fourth link](https://www.snopes.com/pope-francis-trump-obama-smile/) is about a misleading image meme. Not applicable.\n\n5. The [fifth link](https://www.snopes.com/trump-wants-executive-order-abolishing-impeachment/) is fact-checking a satirical website (like The Onion). Not applicable.\n\n6. So is the [sixth](https://www.snopes.com/lot-reserved-for-future-internment-camp/).\n\n7. And [seventh](https://www.snopes.com/trump-order-popular-vote-winner/).\n\n8. And [eighth](https://www.snopes.com/trump-federal-troops-chicago/).\n\n9. The [ninth link](https://www.snopes.com/trump-protest-no-right/) discusses \"a hyperpartisan web site misquoted a legal motion filed by Trump's lawyer.\" The website is Learn Progress. I've never heard of it, have you? Seems like a fringe website. No anonymous sources were used, but even if they were you can't use the bad credibility of a no-name website to impugn that of respected journalists.\n\n10. The [tenth link](https://www.snopes.com/did-trump-alter-the-constitution/) fact checks a deceptive tweet by some random nobody that ended up being highly circulated. Not applicable.\n\nAnyway, that's all that I have time for for now. See a pattern? Not a single example of a journalist using an anonymous source in what later turned out to be a lie, much less a journalist from a reputable publication. I'm happy to see a Snopes author defending Trump against any accusations that are false and I'm happy to see Snopes publishing that on their site. Why do you think this article, which serves a good summary of lies floating around the internet about Trump, doesn't appear to have a single example to support your claim?\n\nFrom /u/HoundDogs\n\n>Let me be clear, it's not that I can't. It's that in doing so in the past, time after time, people like you don't accept it and find some fallacious reason to dismiss it. So, I don't do it much any more.\n\n>You'll have to excuse me but in talking to people like you, the exact opposite of what you say always seems to be the case. Your bias is so strong you're completely unwilling to accept something contrary to it.\n\n...\n\n>Of all the places I never would have thought to look for an example, I never would have suspected Snopes. Thanks for posting that.\n\nSo it seems that I was the one that wasted my time here. Please let me know if you can find an example of a journalist from a reputable news organization using an anonymous source to propagate a lie.\n\nOthers in this thread, cc: /u/ohchristworld /u/ChickenLover841",
"Don't take my grief too seriously. I'm just trolling. I know both are are good. I'm a Boilermaker so I'm just jealous of your football team. Well we did well this year!",
">using huff post as a source",
"Brits would also call you a cunt you drongo",
"Lol, seriously.",
"man you are thick..\n\nYou know the US isn't the only imperialist mega force right? you know there have been other very powerful imperialist countries right? You know how imperialism work right?\n\nHave you ever considered the parallels between Africa and the middle east?, a huge region rich and abundant in resource that was meddled with by exterior forces who sought to gain for themselves at the expense of the native inhabitants? Britain absolutely Fucked Africa Raw, then set to oppose it's own people within by instituting people in power that where sympathetic to Britain Rule. \n\nSimilarly, the US along with others funded and directly sponsored groups of people (Al-queda) to destabilize the government in order to install a more sympathetic (to US interests) one.\n\n\nAnd also, Im not going to list and explain every fucking country's background. If you have a US ego-centrist perspective of the world then thats on you. I can recognize there are other people out there on this planet whose only crime was being born in a region the US doesn't like, although statistically speaking are probably exploiting for their resources. ",
"Exactly.",
"Yeah dude you ruined a good rabbit hole, good going dude",
">marx\n\nwe're coming for you soyboys ",
"Okay dear",
"90% of the wealthiest, most stable, self made men be them Vietnamese, black, white, brown. \n\nBut good thing you got a 10/10 girlfriend lol.",
"Ranker isnt a valid source. The slightest bit of research would show that the homeless rate in San Francisco is highest in the nation.",
"How ironic that this is in San Francisco, a city with such a horrendous track record of taking care of the homeless and impoverished. Downtown is literally a shithole, where the streets consistently smell of urine and are covered in garbage. But hey, let’s use our time and resources to make an edgy political statement for brownie points rather than actually help the people who we claim to care about. ",
"But the president used a bad word!",
"Sick deflection of a valid argument because you reached a block in your logic!",
"Yeah, I wasn't making the claim, though. I had no obligation to use my time to do it. ",
"The stock market is at an all-time high, we keep hearing more and more about cryptocurrencies, Trump's constant bullshit, Canada legalizing marijuana (I'm Canadian), a dozen new superhero movies including Deadpool 2, the Han Solo moovie, and Infinity War all coming out in May, the Winter Olympics and NK's participation, we can be sure Russia will do more shit. More sexual harassment scandals? And who knows what will happen terrorism-wise.",
"Thanks, though!",
"That just references this same remark that's already been debunked. ",
">Apparently a trillion dollars over 10 years is a MASSIVE HOLE IN THE DEFICIT.\n\nUm, yes, actually. It is a massive hole in the deficit. Funny how republicans call themselves \"fiscally responsible\" and then they pass a tax plan that would massively increase our debt. This is not about left vs right, this is about common sense. The US doesn't have a problem with economic growth. It does, however, have a problem with debt. And you do not such a big tax cut in times of economic growth when the US has such a big debt. This is just stupid. Yes, there are some good things about the tax plan, like the child tax credit increase and the tax cuts for the middle class (which most of them are stupidly, temporary), as well as cutting the corporate tax which is one the highest in the world. But cutting the tax rate of millionaires when they are the ones that contribute the most to the revenue is extremely stupid.\n\n>The Paris Climate Agreement was complete shit\n\nI wasn't a big fan either, but leaving the agreement is completely stupid. It's just a way to pander to a bunch of climate change deniers and the far-right while accomplishing absolutely nothing to the US.\n\nAnd oh right, a ban from countries that are more than 90% muslim is not a muslim ban. Okay, call it what you want, but it is a legal way of doing it, since the government can't actually ban muslims, since that would go against the first amendment. But the root of the law is still the same. Make it harder for muslims to enter America.\n\n>Plus it’s not a ban at all its differed measures to ensure proper screening before entry\n\nHow many of the islamic terrorist attacks have been commited by people from these countries? 9/11 was done by saudis, the perpetratos of the San Bernardino attack were born in California and Chicago, the man of the Orlando nightclub attack was born in New York, the man that commited the last terrorist attack in NYC was from Uzbekistan... So tell me how this ban would prevent terrorist from coming to America? The ban is quite literally because \"oh, most terrorist attacks are done by muslims, so let's just ban millions of people escaping from a war because they have the same religion\".\n\n>Nobody is buying them anymore.\n\nExcept the millions of people that didn't vote for Trump (which are actually more than the people that did vote for him, but whatever...), but",
"San Francisco is just doing its best to out perform the homelessness in Seattle. But mark my word, we will not be beat! Our dystopian homelessness, in the city of Amazon with several of the nations top ten billionaires will not be beat. \n\nBut I have an idea to cure it. We should send all our homeless to Delaware, the state that has no corporate income tax, and where all these companies register to avoid paying taxes. Maybe if we all send them the results of tax evasion, they'll be forced to implement a tax to help the homeless. ",
"You're one of those people that thinks Africa is a single country apparently, because you're lumping an entire continent with countries as diverse as Libya, Liberia, Madagascar and everything in between. Speaking of Liberia, what happened there?\n\nAnd let's be real, we literally dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan 70 years ago and with a few decades they were back to being one of the most powerful economies in the world. So weird..",
"\"It's about further taking away their dignity as opposed to trying to make those places better\"\n\nWhat's not to understand? It's very clear English. It's on you if you conveyed your point improperly here.\n\n",
"I've been to Oakland. Saw plenty of Graffiti. Still looking for the \"art\" part of that equation.",
"It seems as if you blew up a narrative. \n\n🎼Crickets.🎼",
"You're supposed to scroll down and find the many remarks I was talking about, thats how searches works.\n\nHere is the 5th or 6th link on that list: https://www.google.pt/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83/amp",
"*gif of beyonce sipping tea*\n\nyassssss get em gurl\n",
"Are you saying its not? feel free to show me evidence otherwise\n\nwe all know its true though without looking anything up",
"“Mods! He proved me wrong with evidence! Ban him!” And you guys call liberals snowflakes ",
"No, that's not cheap, it's average right now. I pay under $2K for a 1,300 Sq ft 2 bedroom in a nice area, and my friend pays $1.7K for a 2 bedroom in a less nice neighborhood. She rents out her second bedroom for around $1.2K and pays nearly nothing to live here, that's cheap. \n\nIf you're moving from somewhere far and can't hold out for a deal, you'll pay a lot. If you've got time to look and wait, you can find something suitable for a lot less. Oh, and rent control... ",
">Obama caused the recession.\n\nYou. Are. A. Moron.",
"Sure. It's a bit of a run on sentence. All the rules are followed though. ",
"Have you actually listened to Trump speaking? The oaf is clearly suffering from early Alzheimers or dementia.",
"We got a white knight",
"A quick skim and I see more debunked nonsense:\n\n>He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him\n\nAnd yet he condemned David Duke on 5 different occasions. Also Muslim isn't a race. And the \"Obama born in Kenya\" thing wasn't racist, [it came from Obama himself back in 1991](https://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp) - unless you're saying Obama was racist against himself?",
"Are we taking bets on him \"choosing\" not to run for re-election in 2020 because \"He's already done enough\" to avoid losing his own primary? ",
"Yes. [Tipping](https://np.reddit.com/r/tippr/wiki/reddit-usage) is good for adoption. Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin. There are many posts at /r/btc about tipping and Bitcoin Cash.",
"Let me spell it out for you, dear. \n\nSarcasm is where you say something you don't mean to be a smartass because it should be obvious you didn't mean what you said. \n\nWhat is sarcastic about your post? You just failed to see keming isn't kerning. Sarcasm would've been \"keming is just as important as kerning\" because then it's obvious. What you did was just act the fool. That's not sarcasm. \n",
"You have the thought process of a 3rd grader. Shocking considering who you wanted to win",
"Gobble a bag of dicks, you whiny little shit. Just this comment tells me that at the least, I am smarter than you. So what does that make you?",
"Lol, yes I'm 'one of those people' I guess since switching between continents and countries is not allowed. \n\nI just said I'm not going to break down what happen to each and every country that you've never decided to pay attention to until now. \n\nOh I wasn't aware we switched again from colonized countries, to colonizers? You are aware Japan almost colonized china and ran them into a socio-economic rut, right?, That china is finally emerging out of? \n\nIt is weird when your golden goose contradicts you. \n\nJapan wasn't colonized, are you historically illiterate? It literally is out of context.",
"Interesting, it is actually a different distribution than in European countries. Perhaps impending deportation keeps the immigrants honest, or the high level of inner city gang crime committed by born americans and naturalised gangs (ms-13 etc). \n\nIn western european countries the picture is quite clear, an example from the [integration report of the neatherlands](https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/publication/2016/47/annual-report-on-integration-2016) , Antillians for example commit crime at 6X the rate of the Dutch, non-westerns in general at 3.7X. Data on the UK, is less clear due to the police usually only collecting data on the victims, rather than perputrators, though if you look at the [prison demographics](http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN04334#fullreport) you will see that certain religions are 4x as likely to commit crime (not a great measure of 'immigrant', though nearly all muslims for example will be 3rd generation or less.), you can also look, by race as an indicator, as most non-whites would have had their origin no earlier than the 50's (in general). In these countries (and I would imagine most western European countries) immigrants (and then their subsequent, perhaps naturalised) from non-western countries have a significantly higher rate of crimes. But I would admit the US numbers are not as clear cut as I would have imagined. ",
"But that's sorta what I mean, Yea it's rude... but do you expect anything more from trump?",
"While I totally agree with you, he might still be controlling the media narrative unintentionally. It's like an evil Mr. Bean situation.\n\nAlso, he doesn't drink. ",
"That McDonald's on Haight is getting demolished.",
"Ask yourself. How much time do you spend with your head up your ass that you are so triggered you leave two comments. What? though of something better 5 mins later? Your opinion is literally worthless. You're not american, you've most likely never stepped a foot in the US. You claim to have talked to \"every american that left\". Please seek mental help.",
"Isn't that the truth. Cracks me up every time. ",
"How am I trying to sound smart? \n\n\"information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.\"\n\nThis claim is unsubstantiated, therefore...say it with me: HEARSAY",
"You're trying to apply a courtroom term to news reporting. It is not applicable.\n\nFool yourself if you need to, but the use of anonymous sources is a longstanding practice of reputable journalists.",
">it came from Obama himself...\n\n\"The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself:\n\nMiriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.\n\n“You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time,” Goderich wrote. “There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.”\n\nA New York Times article about Barack Obama published in 1990, a year before the Acton & Dystel promotional booklet was issued, correctly identified his birthplace as Hawaii.\"\n\nMaybe read your links first instead of skimming stuff and claiming it's all been debunked...\n\nThis is useless.\n\n",
"What are you blabbering about mate",
">I am smarter than you.\n\nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYabrQrXt4A\n\nhttp://i.imgur.com/XGC1Gip.png",
"Okay, now you’re just saying random words and hoping they’re relevant. Begone troll.",
"Oh I'm not saying he was born in Kenya, it's well documented that he was born in Hawaii. I'm pointing out that the claim that he was born in Kenya was not some right wing invention - it came from his own literary bio from Harvard which had the claim for 16 years before being corrected. So saying Trump is racist for saying the same thing his own bio said is absurd.",
"> I just said I'm not going to break down what happen to each and every country \n\nFor obvious reasons..",
"> By saying it \"isn't even proved\" is calling everyone in attendance that heard him say it (both sides of the aisle), liars. \n\nYes. It's D.C. The cesspool of the country. The headquarters of the figurative swamp. People lie, they leak, they misrepresent, you name it. \n\nCould he have said it? Maybe. But Trump is the type to own up if he did, but he's denied it. ",
"I thought it was obvious. Also the second sentence was all that was sarcastic.... Jesus get your panties straight you're grumpy my dude. ",
"You mean a government that taxes the hell out of everything, fines you for everything, gives it all to illegals and refuges, and bans shit for no reason?",
"Well, the point is that brainless media will spend so much time on trivial things like you jerking it just like they spent time on trump saying a bad word. Now imagine an image of the candidate jerking off. They'll distract from your substance. ",
"We got an edgy piece of shit",
"Your dissing of the original comment would say otherwise",
"LOL Right. Im the grump. Kid! Check yourself. \n\nAs a graphic designer, you were fully just wrong. Figure it out and stop being so pretentious. ",
"You didn't disagree, I see.",
"If you're gonna quote something add source. I'm not saying it's devoid of crime, but it's not some apocalyptic shithole. Also i'm guessing if you got out a heat map you'd see it's like all places. Endemic to certain areas. ",
"Ahahahahahaahahaha, thanks for the chuckles. The richest state and one of the most desirable places to lives, certainly going to be Mexico.",
"Nobody can substantiate claims he said these things. He denied and there is no evidence it even occurred. What ever happened to Innocence until proven guilty? Welcome to the 2018 Salem trials, a group of people want it to be true to make themselves feel better about their hatred, so it is. ",
"Of course China loves trump. If someone was willing to cede the future to my country for almost nothing in return, I'd love them too.",
"Your claim is as convincing as your president's and Fredo's.",
"You're reading into it wrong. That's all I'm saying",
"Yes, you've found your bastion. ",
"As *my* President? I guess you aren't American. ",
"Nice catch, yet you fail to see the implications of having a xenophobic president. It’s called denial. ",
"Yea, you're probably right. But maybe we need to change the dialogue. Obviously, we would like our country to be engaged in light espionage (at least against other countries). The question is how we give the NSA this power without corrupting the rights of citizens. ",
"The current complicit batch of Republicans are very very in-American. And I don’t hate them. I don’t operate in absolutes. ",
"That's not how your political system works. And I hope if you DO go to a system like that, you add voter I.D. rules so non citizens dont determine your government.",
"Thanks !",
"And yet there are plenty of people from El Salvador and Haiti who are not criminals or disease ridden, and yet Trump makes no allowance at all in his statement for that fact. The fact that he would make such blanket statements without any consideration for the merits of any of the individuals who may be seeking to immigrate is precisely why it is racist. And yes, singling out countries which are overwhelmingly brown or black is racist.",
"Its where you can get a job as a paid poster or shill.",
"To be honest I'm arguing with about 10 people at the moment and I thought we were talking about the long term effects of welfare on the poverty cycle when I posted that. I take it back. \n\nAs far as the Third World thing. I'm aware Soviet states were Second World nations and the history of it. Why do you think the Third World was classified a being outside that conflict? They were and still are too poor to have a presence in geopolitics. You're nitpicking about what the term technically means while ignoring the why.",
"Your comment doesn't have any relevance to mine, so I'm confused, and confused as to how you're being upvoted.\n\nYes, Hillary was exposed to have been controlling the media. Are you trying to say that she should have had an iron grip on all media sources and you should have never heard about the leaked emails? Is that what you're getting at? If enough alternative media reports on it, the mainstream media is forced to report on it. They frequently do so grudgingly and with a lot of spin, but they have to mention it.\n\nDo I think trump intended shithole comments to be made public? I didn't comment on whether or not Trump was indirectly controlling the media with \"4D chess\", though there are certainly arguments to be made for that. More importantly with respect to the shithole comment, no one knows if that's true, it was reported by a democrat with an axe to grind and Trump denies it. Given the hysterical media reaction over an innocuous comment though, it would seem that the democratic establishment still has full control of the media.\n\nThe news of his lawyer paying off a pornstar is fake news. Trump denies it, the lawyer denies it, and THE PORNSTAR denies it. lol. Can't get any more fake.",
"They can, and they do. It's known as 'light pollution'.",
"Maybe, maybe not. I do know however that 90% of Trump supporters are just poor white trash from shithole states.",
"You're not even the same guy I was talking to. Fuck off.",
"Really? Cause we’ve been going back and forth a couple times now. I guess dementia would explain a lot of what you say.",
"Nixon was never impeached. But you're right, Clinton was impeached but acquitted by the Senate, same with Andrew Johnson so they weren't removed from office.",
"I love how conservatives cannot come up with any original ideas, so they ride on the coattails of failed leaders and movements.\n\nAlso, I thoroughly enjoy that most people assume if you aren’t one, you must be “the other”.",
"Cause I've definitely got a wife... Nice try on the insults, but apparently you've been mistaking your mother for my 'wife'. Which is understandable given your mother's face- we could hardly tell what, much less who, she was either.\n\nI'm glad you and your mom are enjoying actual shitty sex, I mean I don't judge, but that's pretty fucked up.",
"So direct your anger at the prosecutors who didn't file the appropriate charges, not the people on reddit saying that the acquittal was justified.",
"No, you broke the rules by being rude and I reported that. Stop pretending like I was calling for you to be banned, no one bears the responsibility of your mistakes besides yourself. ",
"Funny because the country is bearing responsibility of the mistake you made voting for trump",
"But San Franciscans like literal shitholes",
"Thanks for the correction. I’ve lived my whole life thinking Nixon was impeached. ",
"Shitballs- Nomad ",
"😭😂, cause one cities actions determine the rest of the state. Man you guys are so scared of nothing.",
"Yeah that's what's annoyed me the past few days no one is talking about ",
"You're a perfect example of why \"life experience\" is a poor metric for measuring intelligence. The $1000 tax credit I get every year pales in comparison to the interest I'll be paying back to the government on my student loans so that's a pretty garbage argument. I'll check back in 20 years though, when you'll probably be greeting people at Walmart, the only non-automated job they'll still be hiring people for, when you're unable to retire because your generation spent their prime years systematically dismantling social security and funneling tax breaks to the top 10% instead of actually contributing to society in any meaningful way. Cheers. ",
"Our experiences sound very similar. For the most part, the homeless people I saw kept to themselves and consistently grouped together or at least hung out around the same districts. I only went there once a week during my semester, but I think that's what an average day looks like.",
"A lot of people do, he came damn close to it",
"Hey someone give this guy a dollar, he didn't vote! ",
"He sounds like he has common sense- those countries are shitholes and we don't want people from them here.",
"Your long winded response proves what the previous poster posited. That lies about Trump will be brushed aside ",
"Yeah? We want to attract intelligent and respected people by coming off as the nation that elected Donald Trump? Yeah, that definitely attracts smart and capable people. Moron. Such common sense, for the president to talk like some moron on T_D. Obama was a Harvard graduate and head of the Harvard Law review, people respected our country and now look what we have in office. A piece of shit person who makes people like you proud.",
"\"Hahahahhaha shithol #notall I'm just messing with you losers derherher\"\n\nThat's literally what I'm responding to. Excuse me for just not being academically invested in that style of argumentation. ",
"Illegal immigration of Mexicans across our southern border went *into the negative* years ago. The primary cause of our population of undocumented people in the US was the result of crazy right wingers militarizing the border, *according to leading immigration experts*.\n\nYou can say whatever you want. There is no recognized problem with large amounts of undocumented immigrants entering the US that is recognized by experts on immigration. Your anecdotal evidence is just that, and the anti-immigrant movements around the world are known to be caused by economic anxiety and cultural differences, *not immigrants*.\n\nTurn off the propaganda and do your homework on the subject. You and the freak show nativists ITT have been duped. ",
"Xenophobia isn't always a bad thing. I mean, xenophobia in the United States is basically 1/100th as severe as many other developed Nations, namely Japan.",
"Yes...You're right - They are IN-American.",
"> Yeah? We want to attract intelligent and respected people by coming off as the nation that elected Donald Trump? \n\nThis is a dumb and shitty argument, basically claiming that people will never come to the U.S. because we elected someone you personally dislike. Donald Trump is easily the most interesting politician of the 21st century, the entire world is obsessed with him. And despite what you think, he's incredibly intelligent- he's a billionaire who spent half as much as his seasoned politician opponent and became president against all odds.\n\n> Obama was a Harvard graduate and head of the Harvard Law review, people respected our country and now look what we have in office.\n\nAll he did was smooth talk rubes like you his entire 8 years. Guess what? Obama also promised to do something about illegals. So did George W. Bush. So did Clinton. None of them really did.\n\nYes, it's common sense to not want people from shithole countries. Many of these people come from bad cultures and have very low IQs. We don't need them. Immigration is not about helping the world, it's about whether or not the immigrants can add something to the culture...Haitians, on the whole, cannot. I don't care about the 2-3 exceptions that people bring up, some crying Marine who was Haitian or some shit. That country is a complete shit hole and it's about time a politician asked WHY we are bringing these people here when we don't have to.",
"No, but unlike all of the nutjob nationalists ITT I have actually *read about immigration*. Want to know about immigration in the US? Look up Doug Massey, the preeminent expert on the subject that the government goes to for analysis on the subject. You know what he thinks? He thinks right wing nut jobs militarizing the southern border is the primary cause of our undocumented immigrant population today, and he recommends a pathway to legal status to help these people climb the social ladder so they won't be an economic burden as they age out of the workforce. \n\nYou guys don't want to hear the truth though, or hear about reasonable solutions, because we know that nationalism and nativism are fundamentally irrational ideas that come from a combination of economic anxiety and cultural differences that evoke a fear-based response. So you'll just keep gravitating toward whatever reinforces your fears, and ignore what academics or anyone with any expertise has to say. So it goes. Life seems a lot less complicated when you can just blame everyone that doesn't look like you.",
"Strange how I actually acknowledged that lies about Trump exist on the internet and these were examples of them. Are you capable of acknowledging that none of these are examples of reputable publications using anonymous sources to propagate lies?",
"Fuck yeah SF! ",
"Did you read the article? If you're not satisfied with it as a source you can research the two books cited and the records of Trumps divorce.",
"Yes, it is always a bad thing.\n\nWe were talking about President Trump. Japan has nothing to do with the topic.",
"[Just don't say it](https://i.imgur.com/bK5o2wH.jpg)",
"You think hearsay is a courtroom term? How old are you? Hearsay is used all the time to describe he-said she-said talk, and that's exactly what this is. Anonymous sources have absolutely nothing to do with it. The source can be anonymous and still provide something like a recording to have evidence. How are you not making these connections in your head? Have you been so brainwashed that you believe everything you hear as long as it adheres to your values? There's another thing for you to look up, \"confirmation bias.\" It goes without saying, do some research and critically think for yourself. You wouldn't like it if somebody made a claim against you (false or not) and everybody just automatically believed it.",
"I've been saying the exact same thing about how he never wanted to win the election. He just wanted to increase his brand by running for president. It's so obvious that he hates his job and he'd rather be playing golf. His supporters are so confident that he's gonna win in 2020, but there's no way that he's gonna run again. He fucking hates his life now...",
"Oh, you got me good fucker",
"Bombing ISIS is different than Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Libya. In 2016 alone, 29,000 bombs were dropped.\n\nNice try though.\n\nEdit. \nAdded Somalia. ",
"Oh, the irony of this statement...",
"Yeah, she totally realizes that this is not at all what her dad wanted. She is probably the only one that he confided in 100%.",
"Trans pacific partnership: withdrawn\n\n\nPairs Climate Accords: withdrawn\n\n\nKeystone XL Pipeline: Approved \n\n\nDakota Access Pipeline: Approved \n\n\nNet Neutrality: Repealed\n\n\nIllegal Border Crossing: down 50%+\n\n\n“Catch and Release” Policy: Gone\n\n\nUnemployment: 4.1% (17-year low)\n\n\nGDP: 3% growth\n\n\nStock Market: 24000+ (70 record closes)\n\n\nJobs: 1.7 Million+ new jobs\n\n\nTax Code: Rewritten, more money in pockets of everyday Americans\n\n\nTaxes: 5.5 Billion in cuts\n\n\nRegulations: 22:1 Elimination Rate\n\n\nDefense Spending: Increased\n\n\nObamacare Individual Mandate: Repealed \n\n\nISIS: Collapsed \n\n\n\nIf we’re gonna get angry at Trump for the shithole comment (a comment which doesn’t even have a reliable source backing it) then we should get mad at Clinton, for takingBILLIONS of dollars that was intended to go to Haitian aid.\n\n\nTrump has been consistently putting this great country first, getting us out of bad deals, and bringing in deals that actually benefit us. Job creation, and an unprecedented amount of economic growth. I don’t think anyone other then Trump could have done this.",
"We are talking about xenophobia and how it can be good or bad. You think xenophobia is always bad, I think it can be good at times. However, I also don't care what you think, so have a nice night. ",
"Zing",
"Yes. How can you possibly deny that?",
"I'm glad I could help. ;)",
">Hearsay is used all the time to describe he-said she-said talk\n\nNot even a little bit true. Thanks for playing. ",
"Well my friend, it was your demigod Obama who took over the student loan system and basically socialized it so you're learning a valuable lesson right now. What the government giveth, they taketh away. Remember that in the future. \n\nIn terms of job automation, your generation is the master of that. You worship at the feet of these tech God's while behind your back, they take away your ability to earn a living by consolidating wealth through technology. I don't feel sorry for you one bit.\n\nI'm a plumber and electrician, I have a trade that essentially can't be replaced by robots in my lifetime. No way AI can figure out how to walk into a strange setting and diagnose and repair a problem. Too many variables for that.\n\nIn terms of the dismantling of social security, that was done by Democrats of the Baby Boomer generation in order to fill the coffers of their entitlement programs. I'm part of Gen X and a Libertarian, I and my generation had nothing to do with that. Go have a chat with Pelosi, Boxer and Shumer about that problem.",
"Vice President Gerald Ford was president after Nixon resigned. The worst qualities about him were he was sort of milquetoast and ineffective. ",
"You’ll probably live to regret those tax cuts. Tax cuts for all isn’t a solution. I very much doubt you’ll even see much benefit from the cuts. But if you do, it’ll be negligible to amount of debt that will be stacked on top of what we have already. You can’t increase spending and build frivolous things such as a billion dollar wall and cut taxes. Get real. ",
"I mean, even the liberal as fuck Obama dick riding [NPR admits it](https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage-of-trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents). So the real question is, what fucking planet have you been living on that even NPR admits but you don't?",
"It's a bot. we see it 20x a day at /r/WayOfTheBern ",
"Uh huh. We bombed all of them and more in 2017. We dropped more than 29000 bombs in 2017. Over 26000 in the first nine months. \n\nNice try though.",
"https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/10/07/politics/donald-trump-campaign-crisis/index.html\n\nJust type in the phrase \"can trump recover\" in Google. ",
"That seems to be my experience with SF as well. Literal shitting on the sidewalk is A-OK.",
"The original comment was about minorities in prison. Not one mention of the president. ",
"Please, enlighten me if you would. How would you define hearsay, in your own words?",
"Seems to me your context is based on the numbers, instead of intent. ",
"Source for that stat? San Francisco has the highest rate of unhoused homeless that don’t have shelter beds but that’s because of a housing-first strategy and a climate that makes outdoor living possible year-round. The rate of homelessness in SF is roughly the same as every other major city. It’s not the highest.",
"You’re so right. Trump is a saint, bombing only the worst of all ISIS targets, and crying nightly at the completely necessary (and record breaking) loss of civilian life from his bombings.\n\nObama just pointed in the general direction of the Middle East and grunted “Kill! SPLODE THEM! KIIIIILLLLLL!!!!” Then laughed maniacally as he carved pentagrams on himself. \n\nNo, but seriously, the intent is pretty much the same. Trump is just dropping more a bit more bombs and killing a bit more people. Trump is doing what Obama did, but more so. Just accept it.",
"No one asks for stuff in the tenderloin, but they will in the more touristy parts of the city. Most people walking around the tenderloin don’t have a lot to give.",
"This should be the comment with gold.",
"Well when you say we should accept immigrants from shit hole countries then you say all of them whether or not you put a hashtag there",
"Figured",
"Masticate feces",
"http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/161009095917-05-hurricane-matthew-haiti-1008-super-169.jpg\n\nWake up, shithead. ",
"I definitely do. There are shithole countries in this world. You wanna go live in South Africa? You wanna live in Somalia? I doubt it.",
"TWO SCOOPS TOO MANY",
"He killed himself because the Russians invaded Berlin. He decided that he'd commit suicide rather than get butt raped by a Russian soldier's rifle.",
"Now you're arguing that technology is a bad thing because it eliminates redundant jobs. *clap* \n\nI'd suggest you watch the documentary \"Casino Jack, and the United States of Money\" if you want to get a real, clear picture of why things are so fucked up right now. Hint: Reagan and \"young republicans\". ",
"13",
"..?",
"WELL DONE STEAK",
"I baited you and you lost, suck it up buttercup. You can't take it back now, you already told everyone you aren't qualified. ",
"Almost Nothing? You are delusional if you think a 250billion dollar deal is almost nothing. ",
"Even Rex Tillerson admitted these were pretty small deals. These are decade long deals, trade deficit is at about 350 billion annually. Meanwhile, China gets to invest all around the world as America increasingly finds itself isolated, disdained and trying to revive dying industries instead of getting ready for the cu. America's building railroads while the rest of the world is getting ready for the model T.",
"You said you had no qualification or experience. You lost, next time don't be so easily baited there butter cup.",
"LOL no, you are taking it way out of context. The was talking about making headway into ending China's deceptive trade practices. He goes on to say a lot more work needs to be done. ",
"Truly somebody who has no clue what lobbying does.",
"You lost, stop crying and get over it. Your over opinionated drivel isn't facts, it your opinion. Nothing more. You got BTFO",
"confefe",
"Well Haiti is a shithole, but I guess... resist.",
"You seem to have conveniently left off the part where I said I would pay my share taxes to cancer research, Alzheimer’s research, and our troops. Why would you do that? Why shouldn’t my taxes go to things that are important to the human race? I’m sure you’ve known someone affected by cancer or Alzheimer’s, and you e probably known a troop, does that not seem like a good use of your money to help one or all of those causes?",
"Truth, fuck Trump and his entire administration",
"That looks like a big virtue signal. I'm sure all the \"enlightened\" people will see it.",
"Hmm, using a non-political aligning subreddit to push propaganda. Yes that makes perfect sense. Mods should get their shit together. Some people come here to escape politics...",
"Just found the perfect euphemism for Trump's mouth.",
"If taxes are al-a-carte important things won’t get funded. ",
"creative",
"And here's his twitter feed:\n\nhttps://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump\n\nGood luck convincing anyone your link and mine came from the same guy.",
"Oh man, now we're starting to see some daylight between us. Lol\n\nTechnology is going to be the end of life as we know it. People confuse past technological advances and the ensuing economic booms that followed with what's happening today. The two are not the same at all. In the past there was room for people to move on to other jobs. Such is not the case now. This time around the tech is going to take current jobs and the next generation of jobs unlike before. I realize my thinking is way ahead of what most people can comprehend but trust me, it's coming. Everything that the powers that be thinks is 20 years off is really only five to ten years off, max. Tech advances far faster than we would like to admit.",
"It's tough for most people to figure out what positives political lobbyists contribute to society, yes. \n\n\nG'day. ",
"The credit card analogy is the best I could come up with at 4:30 in the morning. And I can only be as concise or direct as Paul Ryan when he says they are going to work on \"entitlement reform\". \n\nI'm fairly certain that the first thing that is going to go is food stamps, which would be terrible. There's a lot of people that could go hungry if that goes away. Its disingenuous to assume that if you receive welfare of any kind, you just decide not to work. Many people fall into situations they can't get out of that easily. May are working but they can't find work that pays sufficiently. Minimum wage in my state is $7.25. Average apartment in one of the larger cities is $961 a month, so that leaves $199 left for food ASSUMING that the job is a full-time job, which most of the time it isn't. So that means that they would have to try to secure another job. But its already difficult because,if they want to find somewhere else to work, hopefully they had a reliable form of transportation. One of my room mates was stuck at a shitty part time job because he could only look for work he could get to on his moped. He was only able to get his first car because he was sideswiped while on his moped, and got money from that person's car insurance. \n\nMedicaide and Medicare could be significantly cut too. That would suck because medical bills over here are really high. And if the poor are barely able to feed themselves, then they definitely won't be able to pay for any sort of medical treatment. At least if there was a widespread government option (Obamacare definitely helped, but it wasn't perfect), then at least the poor and old can go and get the medical help they need without worrying about the cost. Or anyone could go and get the medical treatment they need without breaking the bank. If Medicaide or Medicare went away, I suspect we'll see a shit ton more GoFundMe accounts.",
"To quote the Center for Immigration Studies:\n\n\"Immigration is integral to the nation’s economic growth. The inflow of labor supply has helped the United States avoid the problems facing other economies that have stagnated as a result of unfavorable demographics, particularly the effects of an aging work force and reduced consumption by older residents. In addition, the infusion of human capital by high-skilled immigrants has boosted the nation’s capacity for innovation, entrepreneurship, and technological change.\"\n\nThe thing about minimum wage workers is, they occupy a different (i.e. legitimate) strata than low-wage immigrant workers, who fill niches willing to risk legal ramifications for cheap labor. \n\nThe biggest threat to minimum wage workers is automation, not immigrants, as evidenced by corporate trends.",
"We're fucked if we don't adapt, but that's always been the case. Only this time, \"adapting\" won't mean moving to other jobs, it'll mean eliminating the need for most people to have jobs in the first place. Having a job will be a necessary to get the extra luxuries in life, rather than necessary just to live. It's probably a long way off though, and I'm sure we'll have some pretty garbage years in the time until that happens. ",
"Heres one \n\nhttps://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/privacy-and-surveillance/members-congress-just-voted-give-trump",
"> The crazy thing is, had Europeans not been here in the first place, the natives wouldn't have died.\n\nReally makes you realize how important border security and controlling immigration is, doesn't it?",
"> That’s cause homeless people move there from all over the country due to the environment as well as the subsidized services.\n\nGee, you mean giving out welfare and all kinds of other free stuff without having to work means the bums and freeloaders will congregate there? You don't say!\n\nBut let's not enforce immigration laws and control *who* gets all this free stuff!",
"And being turned into 100% affordable housing",
"Shit, I'd go to a *Mexican* prison before I'd go to Somalia, Sudan, etc...",
"They must not be that important, if the entire country selects from a pre set list given to us by the government then it must not need to be important enough to most Americans to fund it.",
"Good",
"Well, it sure as shit isn't the factory workers, blue collar, no collar people working their asses off that want to give their money away to freeloaders and any illegal able to get into or illegally overstay in our country.",
"Cool. Go take your high income check and pass out all that money on the streets. Socialism, right? Everyone else deserves your money that you earned.",
"Feel free to go outside your office and pass out your salary to everyone else, but don't force me to give mine away. I like keeping most of the money I earn by having a job.",
"You've never been, have you?",
"He's off his meds.",
"And when Obama was president, no circle-jerking for you! You had higher standards. AMIRIGHT?",
"It's OK to be white.",
"And? Do you think I give a shit? You're not going to shame me into doing what you want, lemming. ",
"The way reddit and the media have been since Trump was elected, we have a lifetime supply of liberal tears.",
"I think this line just gets funnier and funnier everytime a Trumpster rattles it off. FUNNY AND ORIGINAL!! MAGA!",
"What does that even mean? Wild guess. You've never been there.",
"Lindsay Graham and Dick Durbin both confirmed it, but FAKE NEWS!!!!!",
"fuck no, I'd rather be homeless or in jail in the U.S. than move to Somalia, Haiti, or North Korea.",
"Lindsay Graham says he did. But he's probably lying, right?",
"I didn't and it's not even a valid comparison, you crybabies took it to a whole new level. ",
"Fuck off back to The_Shithole",
"I'll take San Francisco over President Shithole any day. Hell, I'll take any developing country over King Cheeto.",
"nah, must be raycis /s",
"Suuuuuuurrre because the right is known for its restraint. To be fair, we've never had a president this fucking stupid.",
"So, in other words, donald signed an insignificant deal that doesn't impose anything real on China. How is this a massive success? (Meanwhile, China buys time and keeps investing in major regions while America's standing and reputation plummet. You don't have to be, \"like, really smart\" to see this is to China's benefit.",
"Exactly, I'm from the central valley and everyone I know avoids SF. It is a dirty, gross city with shitty politics.",
"No. Just I think taxes are necessary, I don’t mind paying them as I know I’m fortunate and others aren’t. I do volunteer my time and give to charity. We live in a society not some mad max everyone for their self society. ",
"Whether automation or illegal immigration is the *larger* threat to minimum wage, unskilled *legal* workers is irrelevant. Both are important, both are killing the people who need the unskilled entry-level jobs, and the illegal immigration is the only one we can realistically try to control and punish right now.",
"Not sure whether to upvote for the original comment or downvote for the apology 🤔",
"I pay my taxes, but I completely disagree with liberals spouting socialism or that taxes should be a lot higher so everyone can go to college for free (even if they are completely unqualified, and even if they want to get fairly useless degrees) or some such nonsense.\n\nThat said, I do volunteer work, I *do* donate to charity *voluntarily*, and I like the idea of free healthcare for everyone (even if we impose some kind of required efforts to maintain health to benefit from it, such as regular exercise or annual physicals) who is here *legally*.\n\nI just want to see a lot of bullshit spending cut before we start spending all of this extra money. I'd like to see corporate taxes cut by a small amount to encourage growth and jobs here, less foreign aid to countries that are not actual allies, and more spending on education and infrastructure in the U.S.",
"The idea that unskilled, undocumented workers “steal” jobs is unfounded and intellectually dishonest. \n\nThat people forget that corporations are the ones taking these jobs and either \n1. Exploiting undocumented workers (by paying them next to nothing), or \n2. Exploiting foreign workers (by transferring jobs overseas)\n\n is a convenient, lazy scapegoating, and helps no one. ",
"He's made over a billion dollars and is the President. What have you done there smart guy?",
"Was expecting manningface.jpg",
"I don't give a shit if they are skilled or unskilled. What the fuck is an \"undocumented worker\". Did you mean \"illegal\"?\n\nIllegals have no right to work in this country. They are specifically *disallowed* to work in this country, which is committing at least their second crime, in addition to being here illegally.\n\nI don't give a shit why they are here illegally. We have immigration laws for a reason and plenty of people come here legally. If they want to work here, they need to come here legally and get authorization to work. Nothing you say about the corporations is relevant to the fact that the illegals are taking jobs they are legally not allowed to take. That is literally stealing jobs.",
"We generally agree. I disagree with free tuition unless enrolment is cut to compensate. I don’t advocate socialism, I love capitalism, I work in private equity. I think some things should be socialized though like health care for example. ",
"But I'm not! I'm speaking about trends. I'm saying that on average people from shithole countries are less desirable.",
"Yeah, perhaps we should send them back.",
"Well you have some valid points. I can see where medical would be tough if it isn’t offered for free anymore to those that can’t afford it. It’s not been mentioned widespread that it will all go away so that’s just a speculation. Friends of mine with 5 Kids get amazing care here in the Midwest for $100 a month right now due to very low income. I work my ass off and have a shitty $500 a month plan with a big deductible. So don’t tell me about hard times and getting bent over. I’ve looked high and low and can’t find a job hardly that’s $7 an hour. Starting wages with benefits at gas stations around here are at $11.50. Then factor in high rent areas like you described and the starting pay is even higher. \nI totally agree that a lot of things suck in life, and if you suck at life it’s even tougher. It shouldnt be the governments job to wipe every citizens ass. You have to move and get out there and go get some for yourself. Neighbor kid mows lawns all summer and makes way more than $7 an hour. There are some waitress style jobs that pay that or even way less, but then you have to factor in tips and some people make a killing doing that and turn it into a nice career. So yes, if you’re a complete moron and only work for $7/hr and you’re 45 years old, life sucks. Most people work towards a better future, better pay, and better quality of life along the way though. I remember blowing up the motor in my car 28 days before leaving for the military. Didn’t even have a vehicle for 9 months! Then I scraped up enough to buy a cheap motorcycle. Sounds like your friends situation. Then I dave a little more and traded in the motorcycle for a vehicle and also had a car loan then. That sucked too, paying that, plus all the other stuff you need making no money your first couple years in the service. But you know what, I found a way. It wasn’t easy, but you have to do whatever it takes. \n\nI agree with some of your thinking more than you will know, but I don’t have time for the ‘poor me’ aspect of it. ",
"Thank you for coming here legally.\n\nI absolutely welcome legal immigrants such as yourself that make the effort and spend the time and money to come here legally and respectfully. I don't give a shit what color you are, what country you came from, and I welcome you with open arms, brother.\n\nFuck illegals.",
"> The vast majority of illegal immigrants want to stay below the radar so they don't get kicked out. There's 11 million of them. Do you honestly believe they're all here specifically to do illegal shit?\n> \n> \n\nYes. Since every single illegal has broken the law, by definition, *every single illegal is a criminal and has done illegal shit*.",
"Literally 99 years ago...",
"I guess if the Native Americans had had a unified government, or a military, or immigration laws...or even got along with one another...that would be possible.",
"Too bad the tangent is not.",
"Actually whether or not non-citizens have 2nd amendment rights isn't 100% settled. Lower courts go back and forth on it and it's never been to SCOTUS. \n\n\n\nSCOTUS however holds that the Constitution applies to every non-citizen.",
"This is why I smirk when people (not you) call me a Trumpette/conservative/deplorable/etc. I'm about as moderate as they come. Neither party really fits my ideals. Both are trying to fuck us.\n\nI believe in gun rights, states rights, stricter enforcement of immigration laws, and (in some areas) smaller government. I also believe in abortion rights, universal healthcare, gay and racial equality in the law (such as the right for gay marriage with equal benefits that straight married couples get), and free college tuition (if you have good enough grades in high school/trade school and go for a major that is beneficial enough to the country. No gender studies, very limited number of liberal arts degrees because we need some but not tens of thousands).\n\nNinja edit to add: Also, shit like universal healthcare and universal basic income WILL NOT WORK if we don't bother enforcing immigration law. That shit will literally bankrupt the country if we implement it and just let 10 or 20 million people stay and abuse it, not to mention how fucking many millions will flood here if we implement UBI.",
"yeah? what time was this photo taken? was it 1:30 am or 7:00 pm? i mean, kids shouldn't see it if it's past their bed time right? \n\nbtw, the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES saying something IN THE WHITE HOUSE to his COWORKERS is quite different than your drunk uncles dropping vulgarities amongst relatives in a fucking garage in your po dunk town. he's the fucking president. i know he hates being \"politically correct\" but too fucking bad it's not being politically correct when you're the fucking president it's called DIPLOMACY. i can fucking swear all the fuck i want and say fuck north korea but guess what? i don't represent 300 million other people to the rest of the fucking world. cry me a fucking river claiming that the public quoting of what the president fucking said is worse than those exact fucking words he fucking said because of the fucking children's sake. fuck",
"Yeah they totally got Drumpfth this time.",
"Well, Hawaii did get a missile scare today and it turned out to be a false alarm.",
"Hmmm am I? Maybe. Hmmm, nah, I just reread what I wrote, and I think it's fairly evident that I'm in possession of at least above average intelligence. And a massive wang.",
"lol what does projecting this do ??? He's still there for 4 years and you still live in a Bullshit \" Free Thinking \" City... ",
"This argument might have some credence if this didn't happen quite literally every week.",
"Yeah well that fact hardly matters at all in immigration. If those people are less likely to be accepted by our immigration procedures then they probably won't be accepted. But for those of their country who are just as qualified as a Canadian to immigrate, they should be accepted regardless of how poor their nation is",
"That's also why the majority of Americans no longer give a shit about being called racist/sexist/Islamophobic/transphobic/deplorable. People keep slinging such words around to discredit people even if it bears no relevance to the actions of the accused.\n\nThere was once a time where I didn't want to be accused of being racist. That time has passed. I give no shits. I know the truth and accusations of racism mean nothing to me.",
"True. My largest single ethnic heritage is Irish...and yet me and others descended from Ireland/the Irish aren't crying about it in this country even today and demanding welfare and handouts. We realized it was just shitty times and got over it by working hard and proving we were equals.\n\nImagine that.",
"#\\#MeToo\n\nAm I doing this right??",
"You think most people will check off the FDIC? Or the EPA? How many people know what each department does? The list would go on for a very long time. It’s completely inconceivable that the government would function under your method. ",
"Hint: We Americans don't give two shits about what your shithole country thinks. We have the greatest military in the world, a fantastic economy, and far more people try to get here than any other country in the world, so...\n\n¯\\\\\\_(ツ)_/¯",
"C'mon friend, that's a fairly uncharitable reading.",
"Well, aren’t you silly. What is it with this obsession that leftists have with controlling everyone’s thoughts and beliefs. It’s fucking weird and creepy. Gross. ",
"That's been by far the biggest argument from the left. They've claimed it's pure racism. They are saying Trump referred to places like Somalia and Haiti as \"shitholes\" because they are predominantly black countries.\n\nIt definitely couldn't be because the standard of living is so fucking bad that you'd be better off in a Mexican prison than living free in Somalia. /s",
"I don't think they understand that if someone has gear that expensive, it's probably an important part of their livelihood and they use that projector to put food on the table. Even if the message was apolitical, it'd still make my butt pucker to be using something like that on a city street.",
"BUT HE HAD TWO SCOOPS OF ICE CREAM!! THE FUCKING GALL!!!!",
"It appears you are quite upset, perhaps take a moment to breath?\n\n &nbsp; \n\n ^^^^I ^^^^am ^^^^a ^^^^bot",
"But he IS literally Hitler!! He had TWO SCOOPS of ice cream!!!!11",
"> donald signed an insignificant deal that doesn't impose anything real on China\n\n250 billion isn't insignificant, keep telling yourself it is though, it's comical. He opened an investigation into their practices, he'll impose what he feels is necessary after the investigation is finished. Then there is his personal battle with China that he won. http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2016/12/10/trump-victory-china-real-estate-trademark/id=75571/\n\nThis win will benefit every American company doing business there.\n\n>Meanwhile, China buys time and keeps investing in major regions\n\nLOL the USA is too doll. \n\n> America's standing and reputation plummet. \n\nThat's false, but funny you think that. \n\n>You don't have to be, \"like, really smart\" to see this is to China's benefit.\n\nActually it doesn't benefit China",
"But hey, let’s pretend that these places aren’t actual shitholes and magically when the media moves own to the next hot button topic it will be better all due to my false internet outrage..\n\nLook at all the good social justice I’m doing here!!",
"As a military veteran, I was willing to lay my life on the line to defend this fine country and our rights.\n\nI may be completely against what you say in every possible way, yet I will defend *with my very life* your right to say it. Many countries' citizens are not so fortunate to be able to say (almost) anything they want without the government arresting them or dragging them out of their house for summary execution at 1 in the morning.",
"Whether or not it's intentional or planned out isn't relevant to my point. Maybe he is an idiot who's shooting from his hip 100% of the time. He still controls the media week after week after week, just like he did during the election.",
"lol if by \"year\" you mean \"week\"",
"Nah I'm good, thanks.\n\nAnd it's \"breathe\" for the verb form, silly bot.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k2g/san_francisco_federal_building/dsm6d9g/\n\nI work with AV, I know how simple it is to do black and white text. \n The image itself is irrelevant, a projector capable of projecting an image like that is probably in the tens of thousands of dollars. Using gear worth that much on a crowded city street is pretty damn ballsy. It'd be seeing a someone busking with a vintage Telecaster.",
"Did you change your Facebook status though???",
"Embeds? LOL.",
"\"Shithole\" is a colloquialism meant to convey strong emotions. It's meant to express revulsion to the listener. There is nothing objective, or true about it. \n\nThe only \"objectively true\" thing about those countries is the data itself. ",
"Are you kidding? The media doesn't want to ignore it. Trump is keeping on the lights at CNN. Their audience tunes in week after week after week specifically to see them freak out over whatever silly thing Trump said last. \n\nI'd say he gets it at some level, hence his tweet last week (the last time the media created a circus over something he said) where he called himself \"like, really smart.\"\n\nBut actually it's pretty irrelevant whether he actually gets it or it's just intuition. He still controls the narrative.",
"Thoughts and best wishes are with those suffering shitholegate..\n\n",
"Yeah, but define *qualified* why would we want someone from a different cultural background, with different values, and likely an inferior grasp of English when we have Westerners to pick? I'm not even from the US, and in our country we have lots of policy in place to prevent undesirable people coming in, and they fail Every.Single.Time. Our country is full of poor immigrants (much like the entire West now). Not saying I dislike the poor, but poverty correlates with just about every undesirable attribute you could think of. ",
"> It's not easy to mask/map in a mobile setting in a big city when the image you're about to project will almost certainly piss off the cops/bystanders.\n\nJust the lens kit for a decent Barco or Eiki is north of three grand, and that's all extremely fragile glass and very delicately machined thin metal. Anyone with access to a projector of the type used to make this image has either cash to burn or gigantic clanking balls to risk their gear to do this.",
"All it takes is one pissed off idiot to screw up a couple Gs of kit. It'd be like busking with a vintage Telecaster, you'd be crazy to do that on a crowded street regardless of which city you're in and what you're saying. Plus, damn near anyone who owns a projector that strong uses it for their profession, so it's not just some gear they own, it's almost certainly tied to how they make their living.\n\nAnyone who says \"yeah but you can just sue them later\" has clearly never been a part of a lawsuit related to their profession. I have. I've had to sue former employers after they tried to shaft me out a paycheck, and what do you do while the paycheck you needed to eat that month is hung up in court? What do you pay your lawyers with? It's a terrifying experience and you'd have to either be crazy or loaded to use gear that expensive for a stunt like this.",
"Bahaha sorry I meant 6th street. I also lived out in the avenues for a while, hence the mixup",
"Well, you Democrats pitted the only candidate against Trump that Trump could actually beat, so...I guess you weren't that smart after all, were you?",
"If you think this was a low-budget operation you have very clearly never worked with stadium-grade projectors.",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k2g/san_francisco_federal_building/dsm6d9g/",
"> who roughly matches my views\n\nThere we have it.",
"Jesus fuck these are some powerful projectors. Curious how much a bulb for this would run.",
"I have no idea what you just said so I'm just gonna stand here politely nodding my head like I do with all the other crazy homeless people.",
"I live in California, you troglodyte. Keep proving my point though you ignorant twat",
"I didn't. The people that get it get it, the people that don't never will.",
"Hispanic people are caucasoid. Just because a shitty country just happens to have a majority race other than white isn't racist you damn tool.",
"Hint: when you're constantly complaining about how Reddit dislikes Trump, you're giving two shits about what people from other countries think about Trump.\n\nGreat healthcare and education systems btw. Oh wait...",
"Huh? Fuck are you rambling about LOL",
"If you don't know, I can't help. Sorry.",
"You asked me for MY choice. You should have asked me for a republican candidate that I would support, which over Trump, would be almost anyone.",
"No, I did not mean “illegal”, which is a dehumanizing term used by thinly-veiled bigots to dismiss systemic racism against genuinely good people trying to survive against every odd imaginable, all because these very bigots can’t bear to blame themselves their own, sad failures. ",
"Except it isn't. Have a good day.\n\nBe sure to visit my profile and troll more of my posts while you're at it.",
"LMFAO. Ok.",
"Trump gets you kind of upset with stuff he says huh? Gets you kind of worked up?",
"> Citation Needed\n\n&nbsp;\n\n> Link?\n\nDo you ever try doing your own research?\n\nWait...stupid question. They left never does their own research. They only regurgitate.",
"I'm not \"a democrat\". I'm not even from your country. The democrats are far too right wing for my tastes. But in your political system, they unfortunately offer the only viable alternative to a wholly unacceptable choice (i.e. republicans. Who appear to be a party made up almost entirely of cartoon villains).\n\n\nThe Democrats are about the same as our center-right parties. And I certainly wouldn't vote for them, unless the alternative was somehow worse i.e. Trump or a Trump-like candidate. Fortunately, there aren't really many other first countries in the world so insane, under-educated and politically inept that someone like Trump would be in with a serious shot of getting elected.",
"LoL. You do know you're in exactly one of those situations right now right? He baited you right into it. He demanded citation and then again asked for a link. It was a pretty big error that just happened. I'm sure a lot of results would come up with a quick google search. But he doesn't want that. He wants you to waste your time finding a source, then he will demand a \"legitimate\" source. And by legitimate, that means a liberal source because even if you posted a fox report, he'd immediately call it \"faux news\" and beam happily as though he thought of it himself. And then even if you did find a barely tolerable source, in his opinion, he simply wouldn't respond. He'd just ghost you. Or, more likely, he'd result to name calling and childish insults.\n\nHe already drew you in. Just ignore him. Let him think he won the argument. It's the only way he can feel safe these days. I'm sure he thinks Trump genuinely hates him (not even knowing what race he even is) and wants to deport him. Or something. *shrugs*",
"/u/HoundDogs \n\nSee.",
"yeah he does. is that weird? should i not concern myself with what the leader of my country says or does? ",
"Who else saw that easy one coming? LMFAO.",
"Aww. That's cute. Someone let the special kid on the sub. Well, thank you Solid Poopy but there was no fix needed. Good boy though. :-) ",
"LMFAO. It thoroughly amuses me when the left calls someone an infant. The hypocrisy is delicious.",
"I'm not saying you shouldn't, but it's probably not necessary and you may feel less bothered if you don't. ",
"> Others in this thread, cc: /u/ohchristworld /u/ChickenLover841\n\nWhat's the argument sorry? Couldn't really get a gist of it looking through a couple of posts.\n\nIs it that snopes is left leaning?",
"so you're saying i would be less bothered if i didn't care about things another person said?\n\nuh no shit, sherlock. \n\nthe fact is he makes decisions that affect my life and since i choose not to remain ignorant i therefore have no other option but to have feelings, negative or otherwise, over his words and actions. ",
"You spelled liberal wrong ;]",
"Since when are illegals a race? How is that bigoted or racist? How about you don't fucking break the law? I don't care if illegals are Mexican, Guatemalan, Chinese, British, or French. Illegals are illegal.\n\nDo you know what happens every time I run into a Mexican, Guatemalan, etc. that came here legally and eventually became a citizen? No, you don't, because you don't know me and think you do.\n\nI hold my arms open wide and say, \"Welcome, brother.\"",
"Well, if you aren't even from here, then you can take your opinion and shove it.\n\nDo I have the right to tell *you* who to vote for in your country? No, and I don't. You handle your shithole and let *us* worry about America. :)",
"Uh oh...someone just showed off that he only knows what other people have told him.\n\nActually, the only other person that heard anything was Lindsey Graham and he didn't confirm that the President said any country was a shithole. Graham actually said that he \"said his peace\" to President Trump in regards to a negative comment made. Now, I'm sure, in your tiny brain, you think that \"something negative\" is 100% confirmation that Donald Trump did in fact say \"Shithole Countries\" but that's a egregious assumption as there are many negative things that he could have said.\n\nAnd, well, [here you go](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/951793123985973248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.sky.com%2Fstory%2Ftrump-shithole-slur-not-the-language-used-11204521). But while the previous example was surely an example of Graham confirming that Trump used such deplorable language, this tweet (Part five or six of a string of tweets talking about the meeting he was at) will also not be a denial from Trump...even though it was.\n\nSo there you go, I've helped inform you a little more clearly since you obviously haven't done any research yourself. ",
"Don't worry, I'm right there with you. That last comment is earning me negative karma too. lol. I couldn't give two shits about the opinions of liberal babies though. It was all tongue in cheek. Forgive me if my jest was amiss. ",
">Well, if you aren't even from here, then you can take your opinion and shove it.\n\n\nBecause outside perspectives are of no value, and people from other countries aren't allowed to offer commentary on the American political landscape?\n\n\n>Do I have the right to tell you who to vote for in your country?\n\n\nYou have the right to offer commentary on the political landscape of my country if you want to, sure. Although I suspect, like most people who appear to have republican leanings, you probably don't know much about your *own* politics, let alone those of other nations.\n\n\n>You handle your shithole and let us worry about America. :)\n\n\nOh, look, he called my country a shithole. He's imitating Trump. How cute!\n\n\nI would like nothing better than to leave America to flounder until the weight of what it's shoveling ontop of itself. Unfortunately, American politics necessarily have an effect on the rest of the world. \n\n\nAnd while Angela Merkel of Germany is now effectively the leader of the free world now that Obama has stepped aside to make way for the orange man-child, America's fortunes still effect the rest of us directly. If Trump and Trump supporters cause America to degrade into an idiocracy (and sadly it may be touch and go in that respect), then the economic impact on the rest of us could be severe.\n\n\nAnd that's not even considering the (very real) possibility that Trump could start a nuclear war, because he doesn't appear to have any concept of the potential consequences of pushing that \"big button\" of his.\n\n\nSo I *do* have to worry about America. It's just a shame that Republicans don't.",
"What is see is /u/HoundDogs running away from this thread after his narrative was torn to shreds.",
"You’re a racist.",
"Actually, it wasn't. But it's ok juicyfruit. You keep thinking you won some grand argument. lol.",
"Eh, I doubt if you ignored the hullabaloo you would notice much actual difference in your day to day life and you'd probably be happier for it. Since you're not actively changing anything with your exasperation, no one would blame you for sitting this one out.",
"No worries, thank you for that. Alright, this is a perfect example that I'm about to illustrate to you, and I encourage you to please weigh this thought before believing in it. My intent is not to persuade you into believing what I think this is to be, but possibly to see it from another perspective.\n\nAlright, let's start with the news source you cited (I'm not attacking, just illustrating) The Guardian. \n\nThe Guardian is owned by the Guardian Media Group corporation, which is owned by Scott Trust Limited.\n\nhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited\n\nScott Trust Limited Board member Anthony Salz was vice chairman of Rothschild and Sons NM. The Rothschilds are a key part of the elite globalists who are against Trump, and Hillary was an agent of theirs, and this is not conspiracy, I can prove it to you.\n\nhttps://wikispooks.com/wiki/Scott_Trust_Ltd\n(Read the second paragraph, sources are cited there)\n\nThat being said look how the article is crafted. Notice they used a picture that shows Trump looking semi-arrogant/aggressive. You immediately think, \"look at this arrogant idiot\" from just the picture alone. Then with that emotion, you read the article, which is also crafted for you to buy into Trump actually doing this, yet there is no proof of it. Who heard him say that? It doesn't mention it, where's the source?\n\n This is part of the anti-Trump propaganda, in my opinion.\n\nWhen you dig whose behind these media outlets, you quickly find out there's a handful of powerful elites that craft the message to the masses for whom will help them expand their own influence; hence why barely anything bad about Hillary was said, yet we've had a year of non-stop barrage on Trump with no clear, irrefutable evidence, this is fact, whether you love him, or hate him, etc.\n\nPlease look through those links I put forth, I would like to hear your opinion afterwards, even if you don't agree with what I said.",
"Nobody said the term “illegals” referred to race - only that it frequently allows racism to hide in plain sight. \n\nAnd guess what? There’s LOADS of unjust laws out there, as well as corrupt legal systems, fueled by bigotry of one sort or another. That you choose to support a particular set, while ignoring its injustices, just makes you part of the problem.\n\nUltimately, I am not interested in your own self-opinion - I know enough about bigotry to spot it, conscious or not, and your denial speaks a whisper against your actions.",
"You know what I find fascinating, is that even when there is no solid evidence towards Trump for over a year, leftists jump up start violent protests via ANTIFA, try to shame whites via heavy political correctness, preach diversity while banning conservative thought, allow more illegals in for votes, preach they support black rights while leftist ran cities are the real shitholes (Chicago, and others), destroy state budgets and throw it on the taxpayers (Illinois, California, etc.), blindly support leftist puppet celebrities who are hypocritical to the extreme, and pop up at moment's notice when a \"trigger word\" is presented like \"shithole\" and is repeated over, and over for you guys to get worked up. \n\nBy the way, Cotton went to the Bildeberg meeting, so I wouldn't take his word, nor many other corrupt Republican's for that matter, just my opinion. \n\nBefore you think you're arguing with a conservative/republican, I voted for Obama twice, and I leaned towards the left until the media decided to take a very hard left after Trump won. You either keep your own mind, or you get dragged along with the others, something to think about.",
"One more thing, the Democrats all the way up to HRC, Obama, Holder, etc. had underlings involved in the Uranium One scandal with Russia, here's the beginning of the Federal indictments under Mueller:\n\nhttps://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-president-maryland-based-transportation-company-indicted-11-counts-related-foreign",
"OK, \"Sanchez\". Looks like I found another illegal. Shoo!",
"“Not racist.”\n\nKnew it.\n\nDeport me.",
"\"Illegals are a race.\" -godsanchez",
"Deport me.",
"I hope someone does! Have a great night! :)",
"Deport me.",
"I have heard the “but Republicans are worse” speech a million times. It’s not persuasive. No successful advertising campaign I can think of has ever been solely based on “our competitors are worse.” I’m tired of identity politics. I’m tired of being told anyone who doesn’t vote Democrat is a bigot. I actually don’t know how liberal policies benefit me. I’d like to be courted instead of scolded for voting the wrong way. ",
"Bingo",
"I liked Gary Johnson. He was a nice and positive person. He didn’t berate me or call me a deplorable. He may have called Trump a pussy, but he never attacked voters. Say what you will about his politics. I just liked the guy.\n\nAs Barack Obama said about Hillary Clinton, “you’re likable enough...”\n\nLikability goes a long way. I think the art of persuasion has been totally forgotten by liberals, and replaced by outrage, anger, and self-centered whining about losing. It’s not a good look. What is the Democrats’ strategy for winning back the swing states that Trump stole from Obama?",
"I work with projectors for work all the time. This definitely wasn’t a stadium-grade projector. Look how washed out the image is.\n\nPlus I never suggested it was low budget. It’s simple. Not cheap.",
"Petty attempt to dismiss.",
"ok and what major cities have you visited?",
"You think so too ...hahaha",
"Hahaha! What?! What have I posted that screams Britain First? Did you even look, or just assume? Idiot. ",
"CToS hacks FTW. ",
"I'm from Illinois and I live in Maui. I read daily wire, daily signal, and listen to Ben Shapiro. I'll read liberal articles obsessively to understand the other side, like WaPo and New York Times. My level of education is some college with no degree, but I read obsessively about stocks that I'm interested in, technical books and the like. I think I over compensate for the lack of degrees. ",
"Poop",
"With 40 years of hand picked leadership, we finally have a candidate We The People actually chose. His deregulation is going to make him the greatest president we will see...potentially ever.\n\nBut by all means Watson, make sure you don’t miss another broadcast of Morning Joe. Oh btw, 3% real GDP growth - haven’t seen that in 12 years..",
">unable to understand that I’m not using logic\n\nExcept I’ve pointed it out on every instance. That’s what understanding is.",
" I Made it pretty clear why.",
"oh dear gawd , you cant fix willful ignorance, I suppose you would rather believe the same polls that told you Hilary would win and Trump didnt stand a chance. \n\nTell me something fool, how many times does a news outlet have to be caught lying and fabricating stories before you no longer listen to them ",
"Looking back on it. I get where you're coming from. & No, that's not my intention. I can't believe some of this shit. I genuinely belted out laughing. For the record I am not a fan of trump. :/",
"'that's disgusting'",
"Right so I should only get news from brietbart and Alex Jones",
"> His deregulation is going to make him the greatest president we will see...potentially ever.\n\nOkay, sure. You're willing to ignore everything else that's negative about him because the economy is good. So be it. \n\nI think he will go down as one of the worst presidents ever, with the most scandal-ridden admin in history. He's off to a glorious start in that direction.\n\nTime will tell. But this reprehensible man child does NOT represent me, and never will. ",
"If you can't understand the point it is beyond my skill to explain this simple concept to you. You win, you are too ignorant, I'm stumped.",
"When you say \"liberal articles\", do you mean the OP-ed sections (which, I don't think anyone disagrees skews liberal), or the actual reporting? Were you always a conservative or is this something that happened fairly recently?",
"lol, I think I would look for facts, wherever those may reside , just dont be some tool or useful idiot for talking heads on the TV aimed at giving you a bad impression of your president ",
"It seems [you think](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k2g/san_francisco_federal_building/dsmhpn5/) that the Snopes article provided examples to support your claim that regarding journalists, \"many caught in lies\" in their use of anonymous sources. And yet it had a grand total of **zero** that did.\n\nIs this the kind of evidence you normally provide that gets dismissed? Because it seems you guys can't tell the difference between someone random nobody sharing a false meme and a reputable news publication using an anonymous source.\n\nYou won't even provide a link to one of the many instances where supposedly \"time after time\" you've had this same discussion, provided sources, and been dismissed.\n\nBasically it seems you know that you have been providing irrelevant examples, like the guy providing the Snopes article did, and are scared to admit to it.\n\nMore to the point, it seems you need to keep uncritically believing that bullshit narrative into order to fool yourself into dismissing any uncomfortable information about your Dear Leader.",
"Is he a liberal? Yes or no? It’s really not rocket science. *I’m* ignorant yet you cant seem to answer this yes or no question...makes sense hahahaha. Is he a liberal? I believe in you. It’s only a one word answer. You can do it! You have a 50/50 shot!",
"I made myself clear. I don’t care about you. I don’t owe you anything. Please fuck off.",
"His actions speak loud enough and are pure fact. Which leads me to believe that yes indeed he is incompetent. In addition his war on the media is quite obvious he seeks to divide the country, which further undermines democracy.\n\n",
"It is when someone makes a blanket statement like Trump did about a country that is predominantly one ethnicity or race you fucking idiot. The fact that you wish to keep defending it or pretending like you don't understand how it's racist means you're either an ignoramus or you too are a racist. ",
"I'M SORRY YOU CANT UNDERSTAND' THE POINT PLEASE ASK SOMEONE ELSE TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU I'M TOO BUSY",
"Calm down. This is hilarious! This is so simple, yet you are incapable of giving the answer hahaha. Now let’s try this again.... **is he a liberal?**\n\nEdit: u/adescuentechable this guy is having a mental breakdown. He went full caps-lock. Sad!",
"I have. The city can be fun, but politically it is a huge mess... just like all democrat held cities.",
"actually Trump has done more to unify the country than any of the last 3 presidents, The media are the ones redividing the country by using useful idiots like yourself who do and think whatever the media tells you to, \n\nthe media tell you fools what you should be outraged over and how you should feel about it, and willful idiots like yourself just go along with it like mindless sheep reacting to everything they put out regardless of facts or truth. \n\nPROOF =\nObama called Syria a shithole , I dont recall the media or you flipping out over it,\n\nHilary Clinton colluded with Russia and even sold them our uranium after they donated money to the Clinton foundation. ect ect ect ect.\n\nI could go on for hours, the above are true with facts to back it up, yet mindless fools like you just listen the medias lies and follow them like idiots .\n\nI bet you didnt even know Trump donated his salary to the national debt , or that he sighed an executive order preventing congressmen and senators from becoming lobbyist after the leave office , or that the black unemployment rate is at an all time LOW.\n\nYour nothing but a group agreeing partisan controlled by biased taking heads on the TV. ",
"Qualified is meeting the requirements we set for immigration. Correlation doesn't matter at all here. 99% of the population of a country could be serial killers but we wouldn't care because we aren't taking 1% of their population, we are taking the 1% we choose",
"Ooh, a handful of people on an internet sub disagree. That changes the facts /s",
"Do facts about the orange leader offend you?",
"Conservatards shoving their heads further up their asses while companies getting tax cuts fire workers, their welfare and medicaid gets slashed and taxes go up while other countries reap the rewards. MAGA to impeachment, Loser.",
"no not at all - I'm just sad that our country has become so petty. It's been like... what? 3 or 5 days of news headline being that he said \"shithole\"? Meanwhile - there are so many things in our country that need more attention and help. Like our uneducated kids, the horrible crime in Chicago, the Flint water crisis (when's the last time you saw that on the news), the california fires... but nobody thinks those are important... ",
"Because a president doesn't say shit like that. That's why its newsworthy. And its really further evidence of Trump's behavior of being unfit for office and an overall incompetent fool.\n\nThe California fires have been all over the news. And did you know that Jackson, MS and St Louis, MO have higher homicide rates that Chicago? When's the last time Trump gave a mention to the water crisis in Flint, or any of the other areas affected by lead pipes? No, he's more obsessed with his stupid wall, going on twitter rants and appeasing his billionaire buds. ",
"It's the 2nd ranked hit on google, meaning it's the 2nd most referenced resource (among other parameters google uses to evaluate relevancy), which means a lot of people got it wrong (according to you...). Do please enlighten and share \"valid resources\" if you have any.",
"> actually Trump has done more to unify the country than any of the last 3 presidents\n\nThat is an opinion. I am judging turmp by his political actions which are facts. The changes he has made in my opinion are shit. In my opinion he has conned a bunch of ignorant poor white people with blatant lies. The policies and laws he is trying to put in place are damaging to the country, and typically have a sole interest of the people in the 1%. On top of it I fear that his unprofessional over the top personality will hearld in a new era of WWE like \"drama\" politicians. \n\n> PROOF = Obama called Syria a shithole , I dont recall the media or you flipping out over it,\n\nIt was a shit **show**, meaning that things have gone haywire, but either way, this can be said right back at you with this obvious propaghanda you have been drinking:\n\n> The media are the ones redividing the country by using useful idiots like yourself who do and think whatever the media tells you to, the media tell you fools what you should be outraged over and how you should feel about it, and willful idiots like yourself just go along with it like mindless sheep reacting to everything they put out regardless of facts or truth.\n\n(fixed your terrible formatting for you with the needless and paragraph breaking 'return' in the middle for no reason.)\n\n> Hilary Clinton...\n\nWho the fuck brought up that old bag? You guys can't go 5 breaths without screaming \"BUT HILLARY CLINTON!!!\". As if whatever moronic thing trump did is somehow now made okay.\n\n> I could go on for hours, the above are true with facts to back it up\n\nI am sure you could recite brietbart and alex jones for days (or whatever dumpsterfire / youtuber content you choose), but realise that you are just (in your own words): \"go along with it like mindless sheep reacting to everything they put out regardless of facts or truth\".\n\n> I bet you didnt even know Trump donated his salary to the national debt\n\nYeah I do, he made a big fucking show of it, then passed a tax bill that will give his cooperation such a cut that it is inconsequential. Not to mention the estate tax.\n\n> or that he sighed an executive order preventing congressmen and senators from becoming lobbyist after the leave office\n\nYes what he actually signed is not as black and white as that, read it, it has strategic holes in it.\n\n> that the black unemployment rate is at an all time LOW.\n\nEconomy isn't different the day or even year someone is in office, yes trumps election saw an increase in the stock market and general big business futures, who would have thought that electing someone who they know is in the pocket of the 1% will further that divide.\n\n> Your nothing but a group agreeing partisan controlled by biased taking heads on the ~~TV.~~ *blogs, youtube, wannabe relevant breitbart*\n\nAnd the same to you",
"and just checking CNN and none of those things you mention are there. \n\nAnd a President does say shit like that, because he is president and he said it. I think people are just far too sensitive these days. \"we're all equal, there are no winners and losers\" - and all this jazz... are the same people who are really shitty people behind closed doors... \n\n\nJust look at all of the people in Hollywood who have cried out about Trump being the worst human being, and then are now being called out for sexual abuse and assault. \n\nI don't know - I'm not saying I agree with everything Trump's done - I'm just saying there are better ways that Americans can deal and get stuff done... and rallying around a headline like it's actually going to change anything, is not one of them. If you think his comment about calling countries a \"shithole\" is going to change a damn thing, I've got a bridge to sell you...\n\n\nInstead - get out there and start rallying for the next congressional election. Actually - you seem pretty passionate, so I'll just ask you... how much work do you do every 2 years to get as many people out to the polls in our democracy??",
"blahahahaa , you drank the whole pitcher of koolaid , you pore ill informed no nothing brain washed useful idiot ",
"Poor sweet child",
"Do yourself a favor and jump on the truth train. Please visit: \n\nhttps://www.reddit.com/r/the_donald",
"I’m still waiting. And Lindsey is still a Republican.",
"I can't help the wilfully ignorant",
"> I can't ~~help the wilfully ignorant~~ answer simple yes or no questions ",
"...while you cheer on a mental infant. K.",
"A COUNTRY IS NOT A FUCKING RACE YOU RETARDED FUCK. STOP TRYING TO DILUTE THE TERM EVEN MORE. ITS A NATION THAT IS A SHIT HOLE. THEIR RACE HAS FUCK ALL TO DO WITH IT YOU STUPID CUNT.",
"Typical Trump slug, incapable of critical thought or reason. Welcome to my blocked list you racist piece of garbage.",
"You keep saying everyone knows... Which is wrong. Everyone on the left believes, because you have to. You are incapable of seeing the world as anything other than the virtuous you and the evil everyone else. You are still wrong.",
"Go share that with the progressive left.",
"Your post history shows that you shut off arguments and make generalizations and reduce to name calling before blocking because you're a stupid cunt who can't admit they're wrong. \n\n\nYou're the worst kind of person. Stop being so fucking dense and open your fucking eyes you fuck. Also, you continue to use racist as an insult but you don't seem to know what that means. Where is your proof? How am I racist? Exactly. How do you even know my race or my living situation? Exactly.\n\n\nEither change your life or end your life because unwarranted hate and ignorance further divide this world and trash like you have no place in it.",
"I'm sure that's some sort of insult...?",
"Do you actually have anything of value to say or are you just going to continue slinging insults like a child? ",
"You don't even realize it I am sure, but you just proved my point completely. Thanks!",
"Lol ok man. Your post history... yikes. Good luck in life.",
"Told ya you were oblivious to it.",
"If you're reading comprehension is so poor you don't remember my answer you can scroll up kiddo.",
"You really have to have the last word? Speaks a lot about you, as does your post history. You think I'm arrogant and patronizing. Well you're needlessly antagonistic and don't seem to realize you've put your life on your sleeve in your posting history. You love your dogs so much and dote on them, they are your life now probably because your children are grown and moved on with their own lives and your wife won't sleep with you. Your failing marriage leads you to bash women online, as you have no other outlet in your life. You are a boomer? Possibly Gen X, so that since of entitlement you grew up with has all but disappeared in regards to reality. You're bitter and you're angry and I feel sorry for you. \n\nHave the last word after this, I'm bored and I'm done. Good day to you. \n\nEdit: told ya so ;)",
"Lol how could your spend so much time going through my post history and miss it so badly? Seriously, you missed pretty much all of it. Genius.",
"Uh, yeah, it is. The dude can't read, the stats have been posted many times in this thread, and the number is 48%, not 93, not 76. You know this, because you've seen the data, and you've seen everyone correcting the wrong numbers. There's no argument to be had about this, the number is 48%, that's reality, that's final.\n\nAre you throwing your lot in with something you know is incorrect? Falling in line, and not giving a shit about reality? This is an extremely clear case of you doing exactly the thing you complained about \"the left\" doing here. \n\nAnd I have no idea who you are or what you're talking about with your profile. If I've responded to you multiple times here, it's because you've posted the wrong thing multiple times here. The number is 48%.\n\nhttp://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty.htm",
"You didn’t answer. I’ve literally told you this over and over. It’s a simple yes or no question. I don’t care about whatever point you’re trying to make, I want you to answer a simple yes or no question. It’s baffling to me that you are literally so stupid that you can’t do that. It’s absolutely pathetic, and quite funny. ",
"I'm sorry about your English but I have some friends that might be able to help you.",
"I get that on a personal level, 250 billion is a lot. As far as multi year trade deals between two of the wealthiest nations go though, it's not much.\n\nWorse though, most of this is for things that China was already buying or planned to buy (soybeans, military hardware etc). No hard concessions, nothing about currency manipulation,labour or trade practices or anything that would change the trade deficit.\n\nFrom the Chinese perspective, donald is easily distracted and impressed by trinkets, e.g., his trademark battle. This cost the Chinese government nothing and fools like you are touting this as a win.\n\nMeanwhile, China buys more time to build itself and take it's place as the regional superpower unconstrained by America. From a policy perspective, this is huge. Couple that with the fact they keep investing in Eurasia/Africa/South and Central America at breakneck pace. Contrary to your factless assertuom, American investment in those regioms is falling behind.\n\nMeanwhile donald... Helps coal and offsea drilling companies, while the rest or the world is working to clean energy. And those treaties are being happily written and negotiated without an American voice or representation meaning that they'll be harder or more costly to enter later (ie, fewer exemptions for American peculiarities, like say cattle farming).\n\nDonald, quite frankly is a dream come true for China, Russia and any other country that used to be worried about America. The leader is an easily distracted idiot who knows almost nothing about policy (he'll, did you watch his bipartisan meeting on immigration, where senators had to explain the most basic of ideas, like a clean bill, to him? Or the transcript with his Australia call where he had no conception of a well known people smuggling problem?) His weakness is a gift to China and others.",
"That’s ironic coming from the guy that can’t seem to grasp the meaning of yes and no lmao",
"Confirmed, thanks.",
"I don't tend to reanswer questions. I'm not a teacher patience with stupid people isn't my strong suit.",
"People were pretending he was the reincarnation of Hitler and besides having his campaign promises shut down he hasn’t accomplished much. That burden you’re talking about is insignificant to most people who aren’t bigots, like you. \n\nAlso, I think it’s very amusing that you somehow know who I voted for in the American election. Especially when I am not a citizen and didn’t participate. ",
"Oh I thought you were joking earlier when you said you answered it since you clearly didn’t. What did you say, yes or no? Because you literally never answered it, but keep pretending you did!\n\nEdit: you don’t seem to grasp that yes or no questions have two possible answers. I think that’s the root of your problem here. ",
"I just looked back through my comment history and I found it pretty clearly, but hey maybe I'm shadowbanned just in that comment just for you. ",
"Poor dear. My condolences.",
"You’re pathetic, dude. \n\nEdit: now that I think about it, it really doesn’t matter whether or not you accept reality because the truth of the matter is that Graham is staunchly republican/conservative regardless of what you think. But then again, Trump’s sweaty little dick is so far down your throat that you wouldn’t care about the truth anyways. I don’t have to hear you say it because everyone knows it’s true lmao. You’re just the delusional one that claims it’s not and literally can’t accept the truth, hence your refusal to answer the question. How sad. Uh...maga, I guess?",
"You are being lied too if you think just the left accepts the facts, lol.",
"But you haven't provided any facts, just speculation, which you accept to be fact. There is a substantial difference.",
"Trumps statement is unequivocally racist - he does not want **any** people from shithole countries in the US. You are trying to make the argument that he means the country, not the people, but his statement very clearly means it's the people who make the country a shithole. You said this very thing. I don't see what your issue is, these are Trumps statements, not mine.",
"But you said he said the people were shitholes, he clearly did not he referred to the nations. And his remarks, if he indeed made them, which seems very much in question, make perfect sense.\n\nIf you live in a house down the block, and you essentially demolish the house, shit all over, destroy the plumbing and electrical, leave your trash on the floor, render it near uninhabitable...it is perfectly reasonable that I don't want you coming to live in my house.\n\nThe sentiment makes perfect sense.",
">But you said he said the people were shitholes,\n\nAbsolutely - that is the context of his statement. You are trying to argue he didn't say \"these exact words\" - fucking hilarious, you want to play Sarah Huckabee and Conways game of \"what's in his heart\" and \"the spirit is true\" every other time, but this one time - let's parse the meaning of each individual word independently of the context. LMAO\n\n>If you live in a house down the block, and you essentially demolish the house, shit all over, destroy the plumbing and electrical, leave your trash on the floor, render it near uninhabitable...it is perfectly reasonable that I don't want you coming to live in my house.\n\nExactly right. This is what Trump is saying about these people - that they are **all** trash. Glad we agree, again. Where we disagree is that **all** people in the continent of Africa are responsible. LOL",
"I didn't say anything about them being trash, neither did Trump. He said they have made a wreck of their homes, and it is reasonable to not want them to come wreck ours. This is reasonable, sane, and a good idea.\n\nIt doesn't mean they are shit, or trash just because they fucked up their homes. It means they are incompetent and destructive, it does not mean they have some evil or willful intent to be so. Being stupidly destructive is still being destructive. And we don't want to invite in people with such a record.",
"Point made. lol.",
"There you go trying to parse meanings as if Trump is some stable genius.\n\nWhen a tornado hits Kansas, do neighboring cities and states decree that they don't want people from Kansas coming over because their state is a shithole? That's the difference. People who are not racist know that problems in Africa (Trump thinks they all live in huts) are not the responsibility of the people trying to leave. He is claiming that **everyone** in Africa is the problem, and that none have anything redeeming about them, so they are not worth vetting. That is absolutely racist. The people who live and built this city:\n\nhttp://www.takepart.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/SustainableCitiesMain.jpg\n\nare not worthy of applying to immigrate to the US? Trump is racist, period. His past actions and statements support it, and his current actions and statements support it.",
"Can you adjust for legal citizens please.",
"bing bing bing, we got a winner. ",
"The number is 48%. Not 93, not 76. You have been provided the information necessary for you to know this.\n\nIt seems very much that you are projecting your attitude onto others, because you're the one \"falling in line and not giving a shit about reality.\"\n\nhttp://www.bayareacensus.ca.gov/counties/SanFranciscoCounty.htm",
"Don't try to wiggle out of this. Why should people from San Francisco not get to criticise their president? Just because the place they live at isn't that great either? IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!",
"Ooh good one! You sure showed me!",
"this is a terrible opinion and i think you're a damn fool. but thanks for the advice, doc. ",
"Nothing you just said is true. It isn't racist, because it doesn't have anything to do with race. And your weird analogy about Americans within America isn't even close to analogous.\n\nBut I get it, everything you don't agree with is racism/sexism/whateverism. Seems a stupid and unrealistic way to approach life, but I suppose some of you find it comforting.",
">everything you don't agree with is racism/sexism/whateverism\n\nI don't agree with a lot of what the GOP stands for, but not all of it is racist or sexist. Just the racist and sexist parts are racist and sexist. Wanting to stop *all* immigration is not racist. Not wanting an entire continent of black people to immigrate because they live in a shithole. That's decidedly racist. Wanting to cut medicare and reducing welfare funding is not racist. Wanting to cut medicare for black people is racist. See the difference?",
"Again, you continue to blindly support an incompetent child. Not sure you're really capable of understanding what point you think you're making, sport.",
">I don't agree with a lot of what the GOP stands for, but not all of it is racist or sexist. Just the racist and sexist parts are racist and sexist.\n\nAnd what about the racist and sexist parts of the Democratic Party?\n\n>Not wanting an entire continent of black people to immigrate because they live in a shithole. That's decidedly racist.\n\nIt's that whole \"because they live in a shithole\" clause that makes you wrong. If you take that out, you would have a case.\n\n>Wanting to cut medicare and reducing welfare funding is not racist. Wanting to cut medicare for black people is racist.\n\nWho suggested that?",
">And what about the racist and sexist parts of the Democratic Party?\n\nDisagree with them too. I am registered Republican, I disagree 100% with the parties move to social conservatism, so tend to vote Dem in federal elections. Local is different, GOP in my community are focused on fiscal policy and what is cheapest and most efficient.\n\n>\"because they live in a shithole\" clause\n\nThem being in a shithole is because they are black, white people who live in shitholes are welcomed by Trump. That is the difference.\n\n>Who suggested that?\n\nReally? LOL.",
"> Them being in a shithole is because they are black\n\nThat is an incredibly racist assumption you just made there. You may want to take a serious look at yourself.\n\n>white people who live in shitholes are welcomed by Trump\n\nCitation? Anything at all that would indicate that in any way? \n\n>Really?\n\nYes, really....some citation showing anyone suggesting medicaid be removed from blacks. You said it, either it is a fact, which you can easily demonstrate or it is just bullshit you made up.",
">That is an incredibly racist assumption you just made there.\n\nThat's Trumps assumption.\n\n>Anything at all that would indicate that in any way?\n\nDo you read his tweets? \n\n>Some citation showing anyone suggesting medicaid be removed from blacks.\n\nThey don't say it the way you want it. They say it like Trump, a way to give you an out to publicly side with him and not admit it's not being racist. But when you do a race study and use the results for political purposes to target those races, you are racist. Simple, really. If I studied what white people purchased and then raised taxes on that item, you could call me racist.",
">That's Trumps assumption.\n\nYou haven't done anything to establish that in the slightest, other than claiming to know what is in his heart, which is wholly inadequate. Absent any such support, your comments can only be disregarded as an expression of your own racist views.\n\n> Do you read his tweets?\n\nI don't read anyone's tweets.\n\n>They don't say it the way you want it. They say it like Trump, a way to give you an out to publicly side with him and not admit it's not being racist. But when you do a race study and use the results for political purposes to target those races, you are racist. \n\nOkay, so again....nothing to support your assertion, you just really really believe it to be so. Again, absent support, your comments can only be disregarded. You've provided nothing at all, at any point, beyond what you believe to be so. I don't get the whole \"take it on faith\" mentality some of you people have, but okay. It really must make life simpler, to just come up with notions, that make you feel good, and cling to them without the need for facts.",
"Haha! Republicans are so dum! LOL! U got me!",
">You haven't done anything to establish that in the slightest\n\nHis own words establish it. \n\n>I don't read anyone's tweets.\n\nProbably why you think Trump is a sane and stable genius (maybe you missed it, he claimed he is a stable genius).\n\n>Again, absent support, your comments can only be disregarded.\n\nSupport is all over the place, you just reject it because it doesn't fit your own narrative. GOP has been found, in a court of law, targeting blacks and black neighborhoods. From voting to tax policy to welfare distribution. You ask for proof, you get the literal words (From Trump regarding not wanting the people of Africa in the US) that prove it, and you still reject it. Nothing is proof to you. Trump admitting something isn't proof he did it if you don't believe it. Feels before reals, eh? - good luck in life to you!",
"*smiles*\n\n...\n\n*nods*",
"You're a funny guy and I like you. Sorry you're so angry with the government though! Must be tough. You're awesome and fun, just remember that.",
"Gosh! Zinged again by the brainy left! When will the onslaught stop!?",
">His own words establish it.\n\nWe've already established that is not the case. You continually redefine his words based on your assumptions as to his motivations. That is not at all the same thing.\n\n>Probably why you think Trump is a sane and stable genius\n\nI never said any such thing.\n\n>Support is all over the place, you just reject it because it doesn't fit your own narrative. GOP has been found, in a court of law, targeting blacks and black neighborhoods. From voting to tax policy to welfare distribution.\n\nAnd yet you provide none of this ample evidence.\n\n>You ask for proof, you get the literal words (From Trump regarding not wanting the people of Africa in the US) that prove it\n\nHe doesn't want people who cannot keep their own nations in good running order in the US. That isn't racist. Calling someone out for something isn't racist. The fact that they happen to be black, still doesn't make it racist.\n\n>Trump admitting something isn't proof he did it if you don't believe it.\n\nYou have yet to provide anything, no matter how thin, to establish he has done anything like admitting anything you assert.\n\n>Feels before reals, eh?\n\nThat seems to be your entire argument, yes. You continue to proclaim you know what is in his heart. If that isn't the textbook definition of feels before reals, I cannot imagine what might be.",
"I wish I were. I don’t need Hollywood for entertainment. Watching Trump dismantle the corruption is entertaining enough. ",
"*smiles*\n\n...\n\n*nods*",
"Looks like all thought has left your head. Great job, zombie.",
"*smiles*\n\n...\n\n*nods*",
"Is this what the liberal cult leaders have reduced you to?\n\n\"If you can't make a solid argument, just stare into space and smile while nodding, we will come to collect you within 24 hours.\"",
"*smiles*\n\n...\n\n*nods*",
"Cool. Blog it.",
"LoL. Of course you aren't sure. I'll spell it out for you.\n\nPerhaps \"hypocrisy\" isn't the right word here as insulting others isn't a moral or belief. I think \"Irony\" might be a better fit. I'm amused because the left likes to call him childish and infantile yet it's the pot calling the kettle black. You refuse to see your own infantile behavior, even in this very thread.\n\nI won't bother explaining any further really because no matter how much I explain, I'll just remain the infantile supporter of an infantile president while you continue to believe you have the moral high ground. Have a good day sir.",
"Insulting Nazis, even pre-WWII, wouldn't have been considered childish, just as it isn't childish to insult Trump supporters today. \n\nTake care :)",
"They’ve almost re-conquered it. ",
"Let's see how long this shillbot brainwashed leftist continues being a vapid idiot. We're going for the record!",
"*smiles*\n\n...\n\n*nods*",
"Lol, it’s not your fault. No matter what we say our comments can be misinterpreted.",
"LMFAO. Not the direction I was expecting but continues to illustrate my point none-the-less.\n\nBy the way Einstein, Nazis were socialists, you know, a lot like today's uneducated radical left. :-)",
"Lol, right. Enjoy being on both the failing side, and the wrong side of history, and also thank you in advance for the upcoming Dem supermajority :)))",
"I don't know how I happened on this thread - but you, sir, are completely incorrect in that statement. Considering it is a common battle cry of the right-wing propaganda machine, I can see why you've been duped. \n\n>However, the assumption that because the word “socialist” appeared in the party’s name and socialist words and ideas popped up in the writings and speeches of top Nazis then the Nazis must have been actual socialists is naive and ahistorical. What the evidence shows, on the contrary, is that Nazi Party leaders paid mere lip service to socialist ideals on the way to achieving their one true goal: raw, totalitarian power.\n\n[Nazis were not solcialists](https://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/)\n\n",
"You should look into a psychological phenomenon called \"projection\", because you seem to be a textbook example.",
"LMFAO. Ok.",
"lol. Did you really just source Liberal Snopes?",
"HaHa. Ok. Will do. Thanks.",
"Look up \"manslaughter\" and become a less stupid person. ",
"Dick Durban was lying. Like when he lied to everyone during Obama’s presidency. ",
"I understand what manslaughter is. Point is I don’t buy the “accidental firing” story.",
"But you buy the \"fired multiple rounds into a crowd\" story?",
"You're welcome.",
"I don't mean to keep replying to your post, but this interview with an ex-CIA agent that you can vet, came out, and outlines what I've discussed if you would want to see a reliable, solid source of information on the current political situation:\nhttps://youtu.be/flSYmWkp6Qk",
"Fucking facts and their liberal bias, eh?\n\n",
"lol. \"facts\"\n\nSnopes has been proven numerous times that their bias is affecting their fact reporting. As such, I no longer believe much of anything they report on. Having a bias is one thing. Lying is another.",
"lol. Not good with sarcasm hmm? Ok, well I'm done here anyway. Bye felicia. Good luck.",
"Funny how you cast doubt in \"lies\" when you argue Nazis are liberal socialists.\n\nHere's [Newsweek ](https://www.google.com/amp/www.newsweek.com/nazis-democrats-socialists-alt-right-650572%3famp=1).\n\nHere's [Britannica](https://www.britannica.com/event/National-Socialism)\n\nBut when all sources that don't agree with your lies are cast off as liberal, then facts won't matter. ",
"signal to noise ratio is pretty low in your post. i'm just not getting a ton of value of it. ",
"I wonder how this worked out in your head, responding like simple Jack, and then...\n\n?\n\nWhat's the endgame? Let's set some records.",
"Thanks! Not sure what you're wishing me good luck for though, you're the one who needs it.",
"*smiles*\n\n...\n\n*nods*",
"When the source is proven liberal, yes, I consider it liberal.\n\nNewsweek is also a liberal source.\n\nThe only one that I'd consider free of bias is Britannica. Good source. You really might want to read it though.\n> National Socialism shared many elements with Italian fascism.\n\nSo, let's click through to what it has to say about Fascism.\n\n>Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism\n\nSo what you mean to tell me is that fascism more clearly resembles the right, instead of the left? Tell me, who are the ones yelling that only the police and military should have guns? The RIGHT. Oh, wait a minute. That's not correct. Anyway, allowing the people to have open access to weaponry prevents a militaristic nationalism. So, that sounds like a liberal ideal.\n\nOh, next we have a contempt for electoral democracy. Man oh man. Someone needs to tell conservatives to stop crying about the electoral college...oh...wait, it's currently the left that wants to do away with the electoral college when the conservative candidate wins but when the liberal candidate wins, it's a fair process. Hmm. I'm confused now. How is it that fascism describes the right wingers when it's the left who shows contempt for the process when it doesn't go their way. When the republicans lose, we just focus on the next election. When democrats lose, ABOLISH THE SYSTEM!!\n\nOh...that's explains the misunderstanding...\n\n> ...AND CULTURAL LIBERALISM",
"who's Shit hole President ???",
"Man. The mental gymnastics as work here is truly world class.\n\nI'd love to see where your assessment of what sources are sound are. Sean Hannity? Alex Jones?\n\nMilitaristic nationalism - we support those that look like us, act like us, and believe like us. The current GOP.\n\nContempt for electoral democracy - let's see, you say challenges to the electoral college are liberals. However the current crop of gerrymandering to solidify votes can also be argued as contempt of the process as well. So check here goes to the GOP, again.\n\nThe Britannica article also says\n\n>theory and practice of National Socialism was his deep understanding of mass psychology and mass propaganda. He stressed the fact that all propaganda must hold its intellectual level at the capacity of the least intelligent of those at whom it is directed and that its truthfulness is much less important than its success. \n\nHuh. Sounds [similar ](http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/)\n\n",
"This was literally over opinionated drivel you try to pass off as fact. Cute. ",
"What part is incorrect?",
"Hey man, sorry I've been super busy with work. I fly back hoe to Chicago at 8 am and we can engage in a conversation when I land around 12 pm Chicago time. ",
"I never said they couldn't :)",
"All of it, it's your opinion on the situation because you don't like Trump. There are no facts in it at all. Keep trying to speculate, it's hillarious, but still not fact or truth, merely over opinionated drivel. ",
"Totally with you on that. My point though, is that it would seem that throughout the entire West we have got the criteria woefully wrong if you look at the caliber of people we let in",
"Just wait. You have no idea how badly you've screwed your sad movement. Bloodbath incoming (assuming Repubs don't try to rig elections even worse than they currently do).",
"Mental gymnastics indeed. \n\n> Militaristic nationalism - we support those that look like us, act like us, and believe like us. The current GOP.\n\nWell, this is getting us nowhere. To you, 2+2 will always equal TRUMP IS MENTALLY HANDICAPPED.\n\nI think we're done here. lol.",
"AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.\n\nOMG, can't breathe. LMFAO.\n\nOk dude. Whatever you say.",
"Yeah...it would really be worthwhile to lie about having visited San Francisco? Are you actually that deranged?...",
"In another comment that you've since deleted, you remarked that you're Canadian. LMFAO WHAT IN THE HELL DO ANY OF THESE AMERICAN ISSUES HAVE TO DO WITH YOU??!?! bahahahaha. Laugh of the night right here. Thanks for making me giggle.\n\nYou need to worry about what goes on up there and let us deal with American issues. Smh... Adorable. =)\n",
"Happy Cake Day JenniferRobertson!\n\nDid you read the article about the Cup, Wallet and Sword?\n\n",
"Thanks! Cup wallet and Sword? I guess I missed that one. Is it another American issue that Canadians feel they need to worry about?",
"It’s so lucky every American is born skilled with a job already sorted, because if they weren’t obviously these unskilled labour jobs would be good for them.",
"No, it's about how people reveal their true selves. \n\nGive it a go. It's a really insightful read!",
"LOL I've got better things to do but thanks for the hot tip. I will try and find a nice article about snow and moose since I assume those are the hot topics in Canada right now, so you can focus on those instead of American politics that mean nothing to you. You can worry with that. =)",
"> LOL I've got better things to do but thanks for the hot tip.\n\nLike follow my posts! Yes! Keep reading!",
"I'll pass... you seem lonely and unstable, but thanks for the political chat. It was amusing!",
">I'll pass..\n\nSee you next cake day! \n\nCaptchas are a bother, but you seem up to the task!\n\n",
"Yes, that makes sense.",
"who's Shit hole President ???",
"I don't believe you that it ever went down that way.",
"TIL anyone who disagrees with you hates America",
"Why would I lie? Countless subs say that the down vote button is not a disagree button. ",
"Nah, I get that it's an asinine thing to say. I guess I'm guilty of trying to stoop to that trolls level.\n\nIt's funny, though, that the same pundits and viewership who see protesters and whistleblowers as \"Hating America\" have no problem jumping in bed with Nazis and oligarchs. The same people afraid of their sacred America being tainted my Muslims and Sharia law are fine cozying up with Vladimir Putin, of all people. They don't know what patriotism is, and they place their party before their country and their countrymen.",
"who's Shit hole President ???",
"Thanks for showing the world how deep in that sand your head is proudly buried.\n\nSaving this comment to remember to rub it in when the blatantly inevitable comes to fruition. Of course, you'll probably delete your comment in embarassment, first :)",
"Your ignorance doesn't change fact to opinion.\n\nAmerican trade with China last year was worth 648 billion. Most trade deals are over 5 or 10 year terms, let's say 5 to be charitable. 50 billion on top of 648 is a whopping 8% increase. Which wouldn't be so embarrassing if these weren't longstanding Chinese aims, like the 100 billion investment in American energy. China has already been rebuffed by Congress for similar investments back in 2005!\n\nRead, hell Google , Chinese investment in Africa or South America. Those of us who read actual international news already know about this.\n\nThe only real opinion part is that foreign leaders don't think much of a president who admitted to/bragged about obstruction of justice (hilariously, because he wants to be seen as the decision maker. Oh irony.) Or accidentally tweeted against his party's on FISA bill, namecalls foreign leaders and said he probably has a good relationship with Kim Jong Un.",
"Fair enough, although they were not very complex points I was (trying?) to make.\n\n It is not a strategy that Trump has to manipulate the media, rather, he is in the spotlight because he is:\n\na). President of the USA and is therefore going to be in the spotlight anyway.\n\nb). Makes embarrassing sound bytes and is therefore very quotable because of his position.\n\nI was specific in attacking him *personally* because he is a horrible person and I named the reasons why I feel that way.\n\nI was specific in mentioning concerns about his mental health, and here is the source I (did not) link.\n\nhttp://www.cnn.com/2018/01/04/politics/psychiatrist-congress-meeting-trump/index.html\n\nIn short, and upon reflection, I disagree that you think my post was a bit ambiguous. It may be a bit of a case of 'state the obvious', but my message was clear, and well founded.",
"No sir, just a big fan on Tony Toni Tone. ",
"You're right, finally someone gets it without being offended personally (no matter how small the comment...it's never my intention)",
">Your ignorance doesn't change fact to opinion.\n\n90% OF WHAT YOU are saying is opinion. The only thing you have gotten right is the numbers, but it still doesn't change the fact that 250 billion is a big deal. You can deny it, that doesn't change the fact they fit is.\n\n\n>Those of us who read actual international news already know about this.\n\nI live outside the USA doll, I know what's happening. The USA has been investing is South America and Africa for decades we just don't say much about it.. \n\n>The only real opinion part is that foreign leaders don't think much of a president who admitted to/bragged about obstruction of justice (hilariously, because he wants to be seen as the decision maker. Oh irony.) Or accidentally tweeted against his party's on FISA bill, namecalls foreign leaders and said he probably has a good relationship with Kim Jong Un.\n\nHe hasn't obstructed justice, no proof of that at all. He definitely is the deal maker. He didn't accidentally tweet anything he did it to show his objection to part of the bill which was changed. Funny how you leave that part out. Trump calling people who attack him first is hillarious, funny how you seem to have no problem with people talking shit about Trump, but it's so bad of him to defend himself. How hypocritical of you doll. And he said I'd have a good relationship with little rocket boy. What's sad is people like you actually defending the NK dictator. I bet you think Fidel Castro and Che are heros.",
"C'mon silly Billy, try harder or use common sense.\n\nYou saw the math and can't refute it. 250 billion is an 8% difference most of which was in things China already wanted (e.g., energy investments) or would be buying anyway (e.g., soy). Not a big deal unless you're an idiot who is new to politics and easily distracted.\n\nIt doesn't matter where you live unless you read unless you are insinuating that you know about two different continents by... Not living in the US?\n\nhttps://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2015/03/24/china-beating-us-in-race-to-invest-in-africa\n\nhttps://www.voanews.com/a/trade-africa-us-playing-catchup/3676351.html\n\nhttps://qz.com/978419/china-influence-has-an-investor-in-africa-grew-in-2016/\n\nhttps://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21725288-big-ways-and-small-china-making-its-presence-felt-across\n\nAs for the obstruction of justice, he literally said he fired Comey because of Russia.\n\nAs for FISA, you're simply wrong.\nDumbass don's original quote:\n \"House votes on controversial FISA ACT today,'\n\n\"This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?\"\n\nWhile he, a few hours later (after someone explained his party's position) sure, he mentioned unmasking, but that addition by Nunes was scrapped. (So, no, this wasn't about a specific portion and not was that portion removed.)\n\nFinally, he didn't say rocket man, listen to the quote yourself:\n\nhttp://www.wsj.com/video/disputed-audio-from-donald-trump-interview-with-wsj/33003B4D-0DA4-4760-B913-0C2CDC903E74.html\n\nAnd note donald's lying about it:\n\nObviously I didn’t say that. I said ‘I’d have a good relationship with Kim Jong Un,’ a big difference. Fortunately we now record conversations with reporters … and they knew exactly what I said and meant. They just wanted a story. FAKE NEWS!\n\n",
">ou saw the math and can't refute it. 250 billion is an 8% difference most of which was in things China already wanted (e.g., energy investments) or would be buying anyway (e.g., soy). Not a big deal unless you're an idiot who is new to politics and easily distracted.\n\nDeals are always about what you want. That's how deals work moron. We got what we wanted out of China, they got what they wanted. That's business. You can keep down playing the deal, but that doesn't change the fact it's still big deal. \n\n\n>It doesn't matter where you live unless you read unless you are insinuating that you know about two different continents by... Not living in the US?\nhttps://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2015/03/24/china-beating-us-in-race-to-invest-in-africa\nhttps://www.voanews.com/a/trade-africa-us-playing-catchup/3676351.html\nhttps://qz.com/978419/china-influence-has-an-investor-in-africa-grew-in-2016/\nhttps://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21725288-big-ways-and-small-china-making-its-presence-felt-across\n\nNot even legit sources nor does that mean we aren't investing there. We have been for decades. You also realize that Chinas investment in Africa isn't helping Africans at all right. All the labor is being done by Chinese workers and all the profits are going back to China, so that not really investing, more like raping a country. \n\n> As for the obstruction of justice, he literally said he fired Comey because of Russia.\n\nNo he didn't, he fired Comey for not doing his job and flip-flopping all over the place. You don't seem to understand the definition of the term. Funny how liberal keep crying obstruction without any evidence or proof to back it up. Now Hillary on the other obstructed justice by destroying subpoenaed records, lying about her private email server, lying about, not sending classified info one it and the list goes on. \n\n>As for FISA, you're simply wrong. Dumbass don's original quote: \"House votes on controversial FISA ACT today,'\n\"This is the act that may have been used, with the help of the discredited and phony Dossier, to so badly surveil and abuse the Trump Campaign by the previous administration and others?\"\nWhile he, a few hours later (after someone explained his party's position) sure, he mentioned unmasking, but that addition by Nunes was scrapped. (So, no, this wasn't about a specific portion and not was that portion removed.)\n\nYeah it was, keep trying to spin shit, too funny. And bro Trump is not a Republican. Trump used the Republican to get elected, just like Bernie was trying to USe the democrats to get elected. Trump doesn't give a flying fuck what the top repubs thinks. He's made that clear from the beginning and he still beat them all out. \n\n>It doesn't matter where you live unless you read unless you are insinuating that you know about two different continents by... Not living in the US?\n\nhttps://www.usnews.com/opinion/economic-intelligence/2015/03/24/china-beating-us-in-race-to-invest-in-africa\n\nhttps://www.voanews.com/a/trade-africa-us-playing-catchup/3676351.html\n\nhttps://qz.com/978419/china-influence-has-an-investor-in-africa-grew-in-2016/\n\nhttps://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21725288-big-ways-and-small-china-making-its-presence-felt-across\n\nI know what he said, and he said \"I'd\" I think it's funny you thought I was serious about the rocket man part. What an idiot. \n\n>Fortunately we now record conversations with reporters \n\nYeah, because the media lies and edits their recording. You can clearly tell the edited the audio. Keep trying, you must like getting BTFO. ",
"Oh wow, thank you, I hadn't had a good belly laugh yet today!\n\n>Yeah, because the media lies and edits their recording.\n\nYou know the white house basically released the same dame thing, just more muffled? Are you the type, like donald, who thinks they're spying on you through your microwave? Ahaha, oh man, reality must be tough for you. Not only would that be an insane, easily disprovable move but it would come from the famed liberal commie rag, the WALL STREET JOURNAL??? Ahahahahahahahaha.\n\n>Not even legit sources nor does that mean we aren't investing there.\n\nAnd your legit source was... Not living in America? Ahahahaha, kid, this is gold. No one's saying the US doesn't invest elsewhere, it's just that China is becoming the new regional power.\n\n>No he didn't, he fired Comey for not doing his job and flip-flopping all over the place.\n\n\"But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it. And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.\"\n\nEven if he is innocent, that's about the stupidest goddamn thing you could possibly say on air. He literally said he was firing him for the Russia investigation. Doesn't matter if there are other reasons.\n\nObstruction of justice is any attempt to influence, obstruct or impede the due administration of justice. Like, say, firing a guy for investigating your campaign. (Just for half a second, imagine Obama said he was firing Comey because this whole email thing was a made up hoax by the republicans. Regardless of the veracity of that statement, you'd be outraged!)\n\nThe only thing he could have done that would have been dumber would have been to tweet that he had to let Flynn go because he lied to the FBI when he wasn't supposed to know that yet... (Oh wait, he did tweet and then his lawyer took the flak. Because as everyone knows, lawyers hired at the presidential level, often tweet out damning admissions on behalf of their clients because donald has 'the best people'...)\n\n>You also realize that Chinas investment in Africa isn't helping Africans at all right.\n\nAhhh, more of your \"well, I don't live in America, so I know about the world\" despite all evidence to the contrary. You realize that one of the things that gets Chinese investment lauded so highly is that it is heavily in infrastructure, not immediate payoff projects right? (Okay, not right, you clearly don't know that!) Whether it's Bagamoyo Port, Modderfontein New City or the Lagos-Calabar coastal railway, all those projects are proof that you're just rambling nonsensically about topics about which you know less than Jon Snow, which is to say, nothing.\n\nI don't know what I liked better, your mind bogglingly dumb assertion that a deal that has no costs to China is a win for trump or the \"buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Hillary\" nonsense we've come to know and adore from team donald. \n\nIgnorance, assertions made without fact AND a Hillary Clinton accusation? It's like winning trump bingo! \n\nThanks again, this put a ridiculous smile on my face. I can't wait to share this stupidity with my friends who keep trying to defend the trumpers. You guys don't have a decent argument or position so much as a stunning ignorance about the most basic concepts in international politics. \n\nOh, thanks again for being everything I hoped you'd be.",
"> And your legit source was... Not living in America? Ahahahaha, kid, this is gold. No one's saying the US doesn't invest elsewhere, it's just that China is becoming the new regional power.\n\nThat's what you said at first doll go back and read it, and no China isn't becoming a regional power.\n\n>Even if he is innocent, that's about the stupidest goddamn thing you could possibly say on air. He literally said he was firing him for the Russia investigation. Doesn't matter if there are other reasons.\n\nThat's not what he said and this statement just proved you are trying to push speculation as fact. \n\n>The only thing he could have done that would have been dumber would have been to tweet that he had to let Flynn go because he lied to the FBI when he wasn't supposed to know that yet...\n\nLOL if you don't think the President doesn't have access to any info he wants, still isn't obstruction of justice. \n\n>Ahhh, more of your \"well, I don't live in America, so I know about the world\" despite all evidence to the contrary. You realize that one of the things that gets Chinese investment lauded so highly is that it is heavily in infrastructure, not immediate payoff projects right? (Okay, not right, you clearly don't know that!) Whether it's Bagamoyo Port, Modderfontein New City or the Lagos-Calabar coastal railway, all those projects are proof that you're just rambling nonsensically about topics about which you know less than Jon Snow, which is to say, nothing.\n\nLOl my business does work in China, I'm there 1 time or more a month. You could easily verify that I talk about it in many comments I make. I know a shit ton more about what China is doing and not doing than you. I deal with them on a regular basis. \n\n>I don't know what I liked better, your mind bogglingly dumb assertion that a deal that has no costs to China is a win for trump or the \"buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut Hillary\" nonsense we've come to know and adore from team donald. Ignorance, assertions made without fact AND a Hillary Clinton accusation? It's like winning trump bingo!\n\nWhat facts, you just keep stating your over opinionated drivel like it is fact. All the stuff about Hillary is fact.\n\n>Thanks again, this put a ridiculous smile on my face. I can't wait to share this stupidity with my friends who keep trying to defend the trumpers. You guys don't have a decent argument or position so much as a stunning ignorance about the most basic concepts in international politics.\nOh, thanks again for being everything I hoped you'd be.\n\nLOl I have been laughing at your assumptions and over opinionated drivel this whole time. You haven't Disproven anything I have said and just run around in circles trying to say your opinions are facts. It's hillarous and you keep getting BTFO. ",
">No one's saying the US doesn't invest elsewhere\n\nAgain, no one said that. Quote me, don't just assert.\n\nRepeating something enough doesn't make it true. The closest you've come to a fact was an insane conspiracy theory about the Wall Street Journal. And because you claim to go to China your ignorance about its international investment is fact? \n\nIf you had some logic, maybe though, I'd give your assertions some credence. But anyone who can look at these sentences:\n\n **when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.**\n\nAnd somehow come away with the impression that donald didn't say that when he decided to fire Comey he did so because of the Russia investigation, or as donald put it, \"this Russia thing with trump and Russia\" Really? If basic reading doesn't work for you, or you are so mindlessly devout, there's not much hope for you.\n\nIt's like arguing with a particularly dumb brick wall. But hey, you can keep telling yourself you're winning. No one else will.\n\n",
"TL;DR\n\nWhy are you still here? I can't believe how deep your imaginary safety hole goes. Instead of admitting your team lost for a reason, you back the morons who double down and call everyone stupid. I've saved them all too. I've even set an alarm in my phone for the midterms so I can come back and ask if you are still hiding in your imaginary safe space.",
"> Again, no one said that. Quote me, don't just assert.\n\nThat's what you implied and bro Trump didn't fire Comey for Russia, he fired Comey for botching Hillary's email investigation, leaking documents, allowing a fake dossier to be used as a means to spy on him. Among other things Pull your head out of your ignorant ass.\n\n>It's like arguing with a particularly dumb brick wall.\n\nYou project well LOL. you haven't proven anything. \n\n>you can keep telling yourself you're winning.\n\nI am winning. The company I own got a massive tax break. I'll make more money. My personal tax return will be bigger. My stock portfolio is killing it and BTC is staying up. Oh and Trump is President and will be for 7 more years. ",
"Kid, no one implied that either. Just because you're not a good reader doesn't change reality. Quote me or shut up. \n\nAgain, if you honestly don't think donald fired Comey for Russia, what did he mean when he said:\n\n**when I decided to just do it, I said to myself -- I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story.**\n\nAnyway, this isn't that much fun. It's like making fun of the special needs kids, too easy, not rewarding and hardly fair. All you've done is whine with nonsensical assertions \"You said this! Okay, you implied it! No, I can't answer any questions or provide any contrary sources other than what I type, regardless of how mind bogglingly dumb!\"\n\nBoring and not worth my time. It's been fun smacking you around (and yes, you're free to tell yourself you're winning. Doesn't change a thing, but I guess it makes you feel better about yourself?)\n\n",
"I didnt mention russia in terms of income inequality although they have become a good example of cronyism and income inequality. I mentioned them because of their 19th century view on civil rights and for their treatment of rights activists. Also, in \"commies\" time, income was not distributed in an equal manner at all, but it was also not distributed by merit either. It was not communism anyway because of that fact and the fact that workers did not get control of the means of production. It is similar to how north Korea calls themselves democratic but they arent democratic. \n\nAnd just because someone uses PC language doesnt mean they are magically offended by things. The things are offensive to them regardless of whether they are PC or not. It is just that they realize that since THEY dont like to be offended that they should strive to not offend others either. For example, If you call me a faggot I am going to be very upset because you just said that I'm only good for one thing. That thing is the same thing that they used \"bundles of sticks for burning\" for, which is burning gays at the stake. I don't really like being told that all I'm good for is to be burned at the stake, and I don't see why valuing not offending others should make me more offended by someone telling me that I should be burnt at the stake (because, again, thats where the word faggot comes from. They would say \"oh those homos arent any better than the faggots we burn them with\" until the word faggot became synonymous with gay.) The word nigger is similarly awful, as are many other things. But I will be upset at you calling me a faggot regardless of whether I give a shit about offending other people or not. All that PC is about is about recognizing that it isn't nice to remind people that people like them have been persecuted since the dawn of civilization and that you agree with the people who persecuted them. Yes, there are crazies on both sides, but you can't let the crazies become the center of each movement.\n\n Recently, however, the side you are arguing for has been drifting farther and farther in that direction as a whole, so the \"crazies\" on your side have started to seem less and less crazy by comparison. Luckily, at least where I live in california, I havent seen a corresponding shift on the left of a similar magnitude, so PC among my social circles hasn't morphed into anything beyond just affording ALL people basic respect. This last paragraph has been anecdotal obviously, but I have not seen negative consequences from PC beyond the media fixating a little too hard on \"shithole countries\" and not hard enough on the policies that republicans are using this distraction to pass. Also, there are hypocrites who do not examine their actions and thoughts in relation to their positions on issues on both sides, so don't go into that whole thing of people getting self absorbed and not perfectly practicing the love and acceptance that they preach. The \"crazy SJW\" has become a stereotype, but its not like \"crazy racist person\" isnt a thing either so you cant pretend like it isnt an issue on both sides. \n\nI have seen that south park episode a while ago. If you aren't a radicalized leftist, you do not live to \"check people's privilege\". You instead strive to understand just how badly others have it, understand in what areas that you have it better than others, and then strive to make the most out of the privileges that you have been afforded. The only time where privilage must be checked, is when someone is trying to make it harder for those who have been disadvantaged or are needlessly offensive due to a lack of understanding. That person who is being corrected SHOULD care if the things they are saying are considered ignorant or offensive by society because either their actions are about to have consequences for a large number of people, or because they should wish to be taken seriously when they make a point in the future and not simply be discounted because people believe that their point stems solely from bigotry. As such, an unradicalized leftist will point out that you are showing privelege when are showing it, explain your misunderstanding, and then say that by showing a lack of understanding of other sides of the issue at hand, you are undermining your position. And then they will not pursue it further, they will let you decide if you want to continue in your viewpoint or not, hoping that the rationale of wanting to be taken seriously will prevail. In short, they would let you know because they believe that they themselves would want to know when they appear ignorant.\n\nFor example of a reason why you should care about being PC, it is fine to be worried that terrorists may send in people along with actual refugees, and you would like to have your point considered. So it is better that people percieve you as someone with a legitimate concern and not someone who just wants to shut people out and cause them to die to the terrorists in Syria who threaten them because you believe that ordinary people from that country fleeing for their lives are substandard humans or a danger to you in your own country based off 0 evidence.\n\nTL;DR by not using PC language you undermine your own position by showing a lack of understanding or empathy. Going off your comments, your problem with PC is not with PC itself, your problem is with the radicals of the movement, which is totally fine, most on the left aren't big fans either. If you wish to be taken seriously, you should attempt to make that distiction. Except not believing in PC means you are against making such distictions, such as saying the problem is with muslims instead of muslim fundamentalists. So obviously, you won't attempt to say that you are against PC radicals or \"crazy SJW\" you will just say that you are against PC otherwise that would make you a hypocrite unless you change your position on PC also. However, continuing to rail against PC in general will only continue to destroy your credibility, making you sound like the crazy, racist drunk uncle who nobody wants to say anything at thanksgiving dinner when they see you once a year. In other words, it makes you seem more presidential ;)",
"Why are you?\n\nAnd why are you setting alarms for the day of your party's destruction?",
"Good. You cant live off minimum wage anyway. It should be higher. At 15$ per hour, 40 hrs a week, you cant afford a 2500/mo studio apartment.",
"Doesnt change the fact that min wage isnt 15 in san fran, its 13, and that 15×40×4=2400 so you can either eat or have your apartment working for 15/hr. That means your EMTs can't afford to live in your city. And also many places wont really give you 40 hrs anyway. Just cause Vancouver is too expensive doesn't mean that san francisco is not too expensive.",
"Now the DHS secretary UNDER OATH said he didn’t say it. Lol. Dicky Durban lies again. ",
"lol. so stupid.",
"RemindMe! 294 Days",
"You implied it, stop trying to change what you said because you keep getting BTFO it's pathetic. Now you are running away crying with you tail between your legs, because you're wrong about everything you have said. Classic alt-left move. Bye Felica.",
"You must watch a lot of ‘Morning Joe’...",
"A shithole with high salaries, no room, and apartments that normal workers can't afford.\n\n70k a year is poverty level in SF.",
"Hope you get used to seeing headlines of Dems consistently winning seats in State Senates, in districts that Trump won heavily, just like in Wisconsin tonight.\n\nIt's going to be a common sight going forward, unfortunately for y'all. I take back what I said, in addition to Dems winning a supermajority, we're going to demolish you in local & state elections, too.\n\nThis is truly the beginning of the end of your movement. I look forward to cumming on the tombstone of your party. Can't wait to see the sad excuses you guys are going to spew when you lose literally everything, rofl.",
"lol. dude, I get it, you think some imaginary team you're a part of will beat some imaginary team you think I'm a part of. Ultimately, I don't give a flying fuck if you're right or wrong. Now please, find something better to do with your time, you sad, pathetic little child.",
">He made the deal, you're just mad.\n\nThere is nothing extraordinary about America's trade with China. What special thing has Trump done?\n\n>There are plenty more.\n\nPlenty more, yet all you can do is link 4 articles about the same visit? Good joke.\n\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/after-trump-xi-jinping-meets-obama-2017-11/?IR=T\n\nA week after Trump visited, the Chinese authorities still prefer Obama to Trump. Isn't that sad?\n\nStill, please post an instance of China ever criticizing Obama to the same extent that they have Trump. I'll wait.\n\n>You just got BTFO again.\n\nNah, compared to Obama, Trump is a joke in SEA and most of Asia.\n\nNot only, Trump's favorabilty amongst most of the Western world has and is continue to plummet. It must be sad that he's so deeply unpopular both within and outside the US. Sorry dude. :(\n\nhttps://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-world-thinks-of-trump/\n\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/",
"> I didnt mention russia in terms of income inequality although they have become a good example of cronyism and income inequality.\n\n\nWhy, the majority of the population is pretty equally poor :)\n\n> income was not distributed in an equal manner at all\n\n\nUm, the income never was and never will be distributed equally. It's simply not how the real world economy works.\n\n> It was not communism anyway\n\n\n... because the theory and the real life are different, which applies to the most theories, PC included.\n\n> And just because someone uses PC language doesnt mean they are magically offended by things\n\n\nIf by the PC language you mean simply not calling other people names and not saying undeserved offending things to them - it's just a normal language. Nothing new invented here, it was around for ages.\n\n> The things are offensive to them regardless of whether they are PC or not\n\n\nLike stating who killed who in a shootout? Why saying this information is not-PC for some combination of the human properties and PC for the other combinations?\n\n> For example, If you call me a faggot\n\n\nLet's start with the fact that it's unlikely that I would do that - unless you're \"An extremely annoying, inconsiderate person most commonly associated with Harley riders\" :) The South Park has a marvelous episode about that too.\nBut jokes aside, I got your point.\nMy point though is that I don't need to be a PC to base my respect to the others on their deeds only, and not because of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual preferences, color of your eyes or any other aspect of varieties the human species may have. That was the norm before the whole PC idea was invented.\n\n> The word nigger is similarly awful, as are many other things\n\n\nWhy it's still PC to say this word for some people then?\n\n> I have not seen negative consequences from PC \n\n\nSome problems cannot be voiced because it's not PC to talk about them.\nPeople often prefer to not talk about some inconvenient issues even without PC, but it makes some of those issues simply untouchable thus never to be addressed and resolved.\n\n> All that PC is about is about recognizing that it isn't nice to remind people that people like them have been persecuted\n\n\nIt's the common sense - it's not nice to remind other people about painful moments of their life or history. You don't need to be a PC for that.\nAnd my point still stands: all that PC originally **was** about, but the modern most visible PC representatives behave more like a sharia patrols.\n\n> Yes, there are crazies on both sides, but you can't let the crazies become the center of each movement.\n\n\nI'm afraid they already are.\n\n> PC among my social circles hasn't morphed into anything beyond just affording ALL people basic respect\n\n\nAs I said: you don't need PC to do that. That's the sane human behavior.\n\n> you do not live to \"check people's privilege\". You instead strive to understand just how badly others have it, understand in what areas that you have it better than others, and then strive to make the most out of the privileges that you have been afforded.\n\n\nUgh. I feel I just won the PC BINGO!!! :D\nThere are no \"privileges\". Different people achieve different results because of myriads of reasons, including pure luck. Labeling anyone as \"privileged\" and judge them by that label is the way to say \"give me what is yours because I want it\".\n\n> there are hypocrites who do not examine their actions and thoughts in relation to their positions on issues on both sides\n\n\nBut these are the most visible ones so they create a public image. They are also most active and do the most damage to the people.\nMost of them are simple jerks that have fun mobbing their victims but some of them simply saw the opportunities in targeting specific people.\nIt's the same shit as with religious cults, if you have an army of zealots whose anger you can control and direct - you are a political force.\nAs I see them, modern PC and SJW are technically cults. Same as some \"bad words\" acquired a negative connotations through the ages the \"PC\" and \"SJW\" now have a negative connotation for me.\nIt's not the sane people (as described above) I'm against. It's the zealots.\n\n> The only time where privilage must be checked...\n> That person who is being corrected SHOULD care\n\n\nIt sounds like the leftists are divinely unable to be wrong and they always right, never make any mistakes or wrong/misinformed judgements and it's their opponents who should be corrected.\nIt sounds quite arrogant to my taste, don't you think so?\n\n> And then they will not pursue it further, they will let you decide if you want to continue in your viewpoint or not, hoping that the rationale of wanting to be taken seriously will prevail. In short, they would let you know because they believe that they themselves would want to know when they appear ignorant.\n\n\nWell, that's not my experience so far. I assume that it may supposed to be that way but the reality was kinda different.\n\n> by not using PC language you undermine your own position by showing a lack of understanding or empathy.\n\n\nCan you speak normal English, please? Without all this bullshit-bingo winners.\n\n> your problem with PC is not with PC itself, your problem is with the radicals of the movement, which is totally fine\n\n\nUm, can you elaborate what exactly is fine: the radicals themselves or that I have problem with those radicals (who de-facto **are** the public face of the PC movement)?\n\n> If you wish to be taken seriously, you should attempt to make that distiction\n\n\nHumanity has no need for special PC movement to separate hateful jerks from the sane people.\nIt lefts a feeling that the PC persons think that they are somehow better that the rest of the crowd, self-entitled do-gooders.\n\n> However, continuing to rail against PC in general will only continue to destroy your credibility, making you sound like the crazy, racist drunk uncle who nobody wants to say anything at thanksgiving dinner when they see you once a year.\n\n\nWow, dude!\nYou just destroyed the whole good impression of your post. :(\n",
"Right, I'm crying because according to you, I implied something insane. And, despite everything we've said being easily accessible you can provide no evidence besides \"nuh uh\".\n\nThe notion that there's anywhere the US doesn't invest is mind-bendingly dumb. To bring that into a discourse means that you know so little that you think that's an actual possibility and assumed that's what I meant, or you assume everyone else is impressively stupid.\n\nEither way, not really worth my time. Say whatever you need to feel okay about it kid.",
"> we've said being easily accessible you can provide no evidence besides \"nuh uh\".\n\nburden of proof is on you and you haven't backed up anything you claim LOL\n\n>The notion that there's anywhere the US doesn't invest is mind-bendingly dumb. To bring that into a discourse means that you know so little that you think that's an actual possibility and assumed that's what I meant, or you assume everyone else is impressively stupid.\n\nYou already proved you were dumb and trying to change what you said because you got BTFO. \n\n>Either way, not really worth my time. Say whatever you need to feel okay about it kid.\n\nYou already said you were done, yet here you are replying again, that's pathetic doll. ",
">There is nothing extraordinary about America's trade with China. What special thing has Trump done?\n\nIt doesn't have to be special to be a big deal, now you are trying to change what you said. Funny as fuck. \n\n>Plenty more, yet all you can do is link 4 articles about the same visit? Good joke.\nhttp://www.businessinsider.com/after-trump-xi-jinping-meets-obama-2017-11/?IR=T\n\nThis doesn't disprove what I stated and is an opinion piece not fact. \n\n>Nah, compared to Obama, Trump is a joke in SEA and most of Asia.\n\nI live and work in Asia, this is def. wrong and the links I provided in the previous post prove that. \n \n>Not only, Trump's favorabilty amongst most of the Western world has and is continue to plummet. It must be sad that he's so deeply unpopular both within and outside the US. Sorry dude. :(\nhttps://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-world-thinks-of-trump/\nhttps://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/\n\n\n538 isn't even a real news source, you're a joke trying to pass this off as legit. I love it when idiots post this. It proves they really are Baizuo.",
"I just googled san fran minimum wage and it came up with 13 on google but you are right, it has been increasing by $1 each year on july first. This year it will be 15. I didnt know, so when googles answer thing popped up on my phone I took it at face value instead of realizing that it would have increased since 2016.",
"[Every Country has their own problems](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States#2010%E2%80%932017)\n\n[Some bigger than others](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump)",
"You assume too much. That may be part of your problem. ",
"Remind me to never go to that shithole place known as San Francisco",
"straw man",
"LOL shill",
"Unlike your straw dogs. Get back in your pomeranian or prove you don't bang beagles perv.",
"straw man",
"Lol. Hey, if you didn't imply it, prove it.",
"Wow you can't win an argument so you just spout bullshit lmao",
"Straw man",
"As we look at the sad alt account. Next time use facts to back up your arguments, not over opinionated drivel.",
"Gotcha, you say I imply something insane, I need to prove I didn't.\nI notice you imply something gross, it's a straw man and thus beyond the realm of proof.",
"You didn't notice anything though. Straw man.",
"Straw man",
"Okay hound humper.",
"Stram man",
"Your whole point about \"thats not PC thats just common sense\" doesnt work because PC is basically just a word for what should be common sense: affording courtesy to others by making an attempt to not offend them. Beyond that, yes, it can limit the conversation if you are so afraid of being called not PC that you do not touch the subject at all. There are, however, tactful ways of bringing up any topic. You would think that humanity has no need for a special PC movement, but, unfortunately, there was a need for one because people were not bringing up issues in a manner that could be considered respectful, even occasionally on the world stage. Trump, for example, is a perfect example of not PC, but he is not the first nor the last to share those ideas.\n\nAlso, like it or not, railing against PC makes you sound like someone like Trump because you are railing against what should be common sense in your own words, and Trump sounds like the racist uncle no one wants there at thanksgiving.\n\nIm on mobile so it is hard to address all of your post, but I'm trying. When I said and \"thats fine\" and you asked what I meant, I meant it was fine to be annoyed at the radicals, but you should attempt to make the distiction just like we attempt to make the distiction between religious and religious fundamentalists.\n\nAnd I'm not sure you understand what privilege is. It isnt a massive thing, but, for example, I personally have the privilege of having parents with enough money to pay for my college education. I try to keep in mind that not everyone has that privilege. I also have the privilege of not being stopped by police at random because I am white. Thats all privilege is, and people should care if they are disrespecting someone by saying that they are just lazy because they couldn't get rich, and that they're just eating up welfare, when the reasons someone could be in that position range from divorce (it would be temporary in that case) to simply not ever being able to go to school because they were a poor mexican (for example) who fled for their life from a cartel and came here. Its also acknowledging that some communities do not have adequate infrastructure or educational opportunities or a nuturing environment to grow up in as a kid. Some kids literally have to steal food because they haven't eaten in days. Understanding privilege is aboit being thankful that you were never in that position and trying to make the best of what you have. \n\nMy point about that is that you should care that your worldview of what life is like for people in other positions is accurate but I cannot make you care. I do not feel that taking the position that people should attempt to have as accurate of a worldview as possible is arrogant, and I CERTAINLY am not perfect in that regard, but whenever I show MY ignorance, which does happen, I do like to be corrected so that I don't sound stupid or insensitive later. That does not mean that there are not people who ARE arrogant and believe they have the most checked privilege ever and that they should become outraged about everything. Those are the radicals I speak of, and those are the people that you have confessed to having a problem with. I find them annoying as well. The difference is that I make the distiction, in an attempt not to sound dumb or generalize the issue. You did not make this effort, and so we have had this exchange.\n\nYou do make a good point about the radicals being the loudest, but thats the case with basically every group right? That's part of what makes radicals of any movement or ideology so damn annoying or crazy. That and they cannot really be reasoned with. They have become the face of PC to many people, especially to those on the right, but A, its hard to have a face for a common sense movement sometimes, and B, at least to people on the left they are definitely adequately considered fanatics. You should ideally just ignore them as they are a small but loud minority like the Westborough baptists but for PC. You should instead just strive to just be tactful, especially on touchy subjects, and most importantly, not generalize issues.",
"On a mobile too.\nI don't give a flying F about Trump and how he sounds like. He is an elected official which presence in the office is limited by 8 years, thanks to the wise people many many years ago.\nPC radicals will stay indefinitely though, and they are the problem.\nI do make a distinction between sane people and PC radicals.",
"Cool. Sure whatever. Also, I'm glad to be part of an actually reasonably articulate exchange. It can be rare sometimes. I feel that we both made our points understood effectively.",
"You're being sarcastic, right?",
"Wow, americans are stupid xD",
"Really? Now you're concerned with spending? ",
"Of course they didn't - if the constitution applies to every non-citizen then every non-citizen can vote. ",
"He stole the gun from a car. ",
"No, because the Constitution actually says that you have to be a citizen to vote. Other amendments have no specification, thus SCOTUS holds that (as per the 14th amendment) the Constitution applies to everybody within our jurisdiction.",
"> No, because the Constitution actually says that you have to be a citizen to vote. \n\nHave you read the constitution? \n\n> The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States",
"Yes, I have. The 15th Amendment states that:\n\n\n\n>The right of **citizens** of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.\n\n\n\nThe right to vote in a Federal election is only protected for citizens. This does not change the fact that non-citizens have Constitutional rights. As a matter of fact non-citizens were legally voting in several states and territories right up until the mid-19th century, when legislation began to appear barring them from doing so.",
"> The right to vote in a Federal election is only protected for citizens. \n\nYes, but not according to the constitutions. Nor does the amendment you quoted preclude non citizens from voting - it simply says citizens cannot be discriminated against on the basis of race. As you know (or should know very well) the granting of a right to one group doesn't immediately *preclude* it to others in the constitution. ",
"Yeah yeah trump bad liberals good we get it",
"Yeah yeah trump bad liberals good we get it",
"Woah. All sorts of facts u crushed those inhumans who dare to blindly follow the other party that your party hates. Its so obvious. Being a conservative is wrong. Its so easy. Why don't they see how stupid and racist they are...u put up bunch of facts and they couldn't handle it...good job man. I'm reading more about politics so I can crush some human dirt trump supporter. Nice job comrade",
"So, I know its much later, but I would like to say that I have noticed a lot more impact of PC being taken too far since we had this debate. I'm not sold on attempting to not directly bring forth old scars being a bad thing, but I have seen an increasing amount of fervor surrounding the actual application of PC. People jump to conclusions and print stories without adequate research just to be the first to lambast a public figure for example. It, unfortunately, to me appears to be a symptom of the much bigger problem where people refuse to think, they simply react based on prebuilt belief systems and ignore any nuance and critical thought in the discussion. I think it is slowly going to become an issue where, in order to be allowed to speak with a liberal on certain subjects you must firmly establish that you are in the social progressive camp (I believe everyone should be, but that doesn't mean that at the very least we shouldn't listen to what the other side is concerned about specifically so as to better evaluate it and refute/change our own position) and you must firmly establish that you arrived at your own policy through intense critical thought (I believe every position that someone takes should be through intense critical thought approached from the position of an outsider, but that doesn't mean that it achieves anything to dismiss all the ideas of all those who didn't come to their conclusions that way, or simply made a massive mistake in judgement at one point along the way).\n\nThat being said, it's not like the right is any better about not dismissing ideas out of hand simply because they came from an opposing viewpoint so it absolutely is not an issue unique to the left. It just manifests through a different way other than the overapplication of PC. It is an issue that is pissing off both sides because neither side will admit any fault. It is just that on one side, the dismissal comes from a place of fear of change/unshakeable religiously informed beliefs/you are too elitist for me to listen to your point of view, and on the other side it comes from the superiority complex that comes with knowing, correctly or not, that A, your policies generally extrapolate from the slow march social progress, B, your policies come from, despite what they may have morphed into, common sense ideas that no one would rationally object to, C, the more educated you are the more likely you are to be liberal, and D, there are people who just straight up don't care about facts, who don't care about the real world corresponding to their model of it, and those people are usually on the right. \n\nWhich do I think is the bigger problem, the problems of the left or the right? Here is how I see the two sides. On one hand, if many of those on the right get their way, give it 20-50 years and many more of us will be in poverty, the air will be full of smog, and the sea levels will rise, causing massive storms and slowly/sometimes quickly flooding our cities. On the other hand, it may be the case that if those on the left get their way, no opposing viewpoints will be heard because currently, those on the left won't acknowledge that the people on the right feel the way they do for a reason OTHER than stupidity. We know that there is more to it because there are people who are stupid as fuck on the left too, part of why you get the liberals who just react and don't actually CONSIDER and REPLY. There are real problems in these people's lives, and just because they are wrong about some of the things that cause them (like, immigration not being a problem for jobs for example, we actually need immigrants to bring the people who innovate to OUR country not some other country, its been called the brain train and many other things) doesn't mean that their problems are not real and don't need to be addressed. The bigger problem in my mind is this lack of ability to create an ideology through critical thinking and then to apply that well to your own life with a critical eye. The other problem is, partially because we have not been fully critically examining our candidates, we currently have no choices in politics. We either get a corporate believer who is for social reforms, or a corporate believer who is against change and immigration. It is an obvious choice to me that the world should be more accepting, so I would only vote on the side for social reform, but up until recently with Bernie there has been no push on the left for economic policy not influenced by corporate agenda, and instead based on what is actually shown independently to have a good chance of success. This is where the debate should be focused, because this is the policy that actually matters to the state. Who you have sex with shouldn't matter to the state or anyone other than you or your partner, but the general economic controls and policy of the nation in which we all live should matter to everyone. It is silly that corporate has managed to trick us into voting for them every election by making the political races about social freedom, or how much you want to allow someone to enjoy their life by living how they see fit, something that is largely irrelevant to corporations and the government. They say, vote for this person and they will let you not carry pregnancies that you aren't ready for in the slightest and may kill you to term, or they say, vote for this person and they will make it so that people can't kill babies, distracting you from the fact that both sides would be happy to give the richest 200 people a huge tax break or bail them out if they are going under, but want to give as little money back through social security and government healthcare as possible, all while people are living in horribly destitute positions.",
"I will vote in every election that I am alive and able to vote in, starting with the last presidential election because I am 21 so that was my first one, and I will always vote on the social reform side because I have experienced some of just how bad issues of social justice can be in the US. I have lived that experience and discrimination is real, as is privilege. I have experienced both, and I know how it is hard to spot privilege in yourself and how easy and heartbreaking it is to spot discrimination against you. But yes, there is a line where PC becomes thought police, and many liberals, especially these dumb fucks who they find for TV (seriously how don't they make sure that you can competently debate before you are allowed to host a debate show or be a guest on one) are pushing that line. We need fewer news segments of two people yelling at each other and neither listening. Radical is becoming mainstream for a lot of people nowadays and they don't have adequate exposure who think differently to them.",
"bigot",
"Oh no, I haven't worked a gas station in years, but good try though.",
"the building is so big.it is the symbol of this place.we can know that the building stands the culture and the tradition.\nlook from it we can know about the US more.",
"I apologize, been a long time for my reply... Adams had a compass, sure. His compass wasn’t very accurate though. Best book about him was by David McCullough. Great read, though it sideswipes the “Alien/Sedition Acts”. I think DC is guilty of falling for his clients.",
"No apology nec mate.\n\nIn the few months since my post, The President has made many more interesting tweets and lost more staff.\n\nWhat do you make of him?"
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"Maybe I'm misunderstanding the use of \"enlisted\" but I'd have thought that after graduating from West Point, he'd be an officer.",
"I don't know all the ranks, but all those stripes makes me think he ranks high",
"Okay, I looked up the story and it’s all in the context. After looking at the full paragraph that the title is taken from I gathered this: he immigrated here from Haiti, became naturalized, then served two years in the guard before attending West Point. After graduating from the academy he was heading to Ft. Rucker for flight school.",
"Shithole",
"The title is worded weird. He was enlisted in the national guard prior to attending West Point.",
"What do you mean when you say it's all in the context? What you said doesn't really differ at all from what OP posted in the title.",
"Am I the only one who sees Darryl Strawberry from that baseball episode of the Simpsons here? \n\n",
"Battalion commander. \n\nEdit: he has six stripes so regiment commander. (These are cadet ranks not army ranks) ",
"Maybe",
"Ozzie and the Straw... 🎼",
"/s",
"/shithole",
"Holy shit... ",
" What if I told you there's lots of good people in shithole countries. ",
"Respect.",
"Agreed. Haitians in America actually have a higher percentage of college educated persons than the average American born people. ",
"Then you may not be a Trump Evangelical Republican but because you refer to some countries as shitholes, you may not be ambassador material.",
"Think about how hard this man must of worked just to serve the United States and then think about if Trump had to work nearly as hard to become president of the same country.",
"Darryl....darryl....darryl....",
"This was posted earlier today...",
"It did not show up on karmadecay or the first 4 pages of r/pics. ",
"https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7pzbkz/west_point_graduate_and_haitian_immigrant_alix/",
"Great. Now control for the rest of the population of Haiti. ",
"That dude has seen some shit. Ask that scar face dude about shit holes see what he says. Look at his eyes man!",
"If Trump had to work hard for a single day in his life I'd wager he'd be a very different person. ",
"Every country can have good people. However at face value, a lot of countries have a lot more issues that others. I have Haitian coworkers. A few years back I asked one if they ever go back to visit family. \"No, I will never go back, it's no good. Here is better\" To me that says enough about what he thinks of his former country. ",
"if I had the option to move to Sweden, I probably wouldn't go back the United States. My personal anecdote isn't proof that the United States is a shithole country. \n\nI have a middle class Haitian friend who loves haiti and would never move anywhere else. Doesn't make Haiti the greatest place on each. \n\nIs Haiti poor and lacking infrastructure? Yes. Should it be disregarded as a hopeless waste of time and resources. Debatable. Are personal anecdotes a good measure of how great or shitty a country is? No. ",
"It's almost like people come to America to go to college. ",
"Gezz I get you don't like the guy but you gotta give him credit where credit is due. The guy did work really hard to don't just get a billon dollars handed to you. ",
"Are you suggesting that college educations make good people, or that good people go to college? Racist. ",
"I'll believe he's a billionaire when be releases his tax returns. Maybe I was speaking in hyperbole and that's beyond you, but yes he literally inherited everything he had as a result of the work his father did.",
"Possibly suggesting that people that emigrate from poorer countries do so to improve: their education, their outcomes, their cultural capital and in the process of doing so, the lives of their decendants.\nIf doing all those things makes you a better person then so be it.",
"He may be commended but his COUNTRY NOT HIM is still a shit hole. Why is this so hard? Actually it's not. It is deceptive.",
"Sure, but we should aslo accommodate for the fact Haiti probably has zero to very few colleges. ",
"Look man your typing how am I supposed to know if your being sarcastic? Just because I disagree with your statement dose not call for you to insult me. Donald trump did work hard and he did not inherit that insane amount of money there are plenty of public resources that show how he made his money. \n\nLook it up or don't, maybe backing things up with Evidence is beyond you.",
"Oh my goodness, the pride he has for his new country and his new life.\n\nWhat an amazing young man.\n\nUtmost respect for him and I hope his family is doing well, despite the evil vitriol coming from the leader of the country this young man has chosen to serve.",
"Good job fam!",
"Righteous ",
"/u/Whoshabooboo, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must directly relate to the event in the picture. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n* Rule V - Submissions must not have urls in media descriptions/album URLS.\n\nIf you fix this issue, you can [message the moderators](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Request to restore submission by /u/Whoshabooboo) to have your post restored.\n\nIf you are a professional artist or photographer, and this is your own site that you're linking to, please [apply for Verified flair here](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/wiki/professionals).\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/Whoshabooboo&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2k5j/alix_schoelcher_idrache_worked_his_way_through/?context=10\\))",
"Having an attitude that is less friendly to his country, in general, potentially leads to less assistance and opportunities being afforded to people like him solely based on where they come from. \n\nIt’s not that calling a shithole country a shithole country is necessarily incorrect (albeit uncouth), but implying that they don’t deserve opportunity because they come from these places IS wrong. \n\nThere’s nothing “deceptive” here because, if left up to Donald J. Trump, this very photograph would be non-existent.\n\nWhy is this so hard? Actually, it’s not.",
"I’m not sure why you’re getting downvotes here. A year and a half of talking shit, campaigning, and not learning much about shit the president should know took less effort than what it took this guy, in particular, to become a West Point graduate.",
"Thanks.",
"It is deceptive. It's a flimsy excuse to call someone a racist. And taken out of context (negotiations and private conversation) to score political points. Calling the country a shit hole does not mean that the people are. In fact, Detroit is a shit hole in my opinion but my friend that's from there is a great person in spite of that. People need to stop reading into what someone means and creating gotcha moments. It's opportunistic to push an ideology.\nWe all say things in private that someone can turn into being racist statements.",
"Nowhere did I say anything about racism. You should re-read my post and reply accordingly. "
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"Are those tiny pieces of wood or a giant hand..? Lol",
"Very sandy snow",
"dat palm gap tho...",
"We know.",
"Artsy. "
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"why is happiness important",
"Yeah this is garbage advice for people who are struggling and getting by as best as they can.\n\nIt makes me crazy happy to stay at home reading fantasy books all day, and having sex. It doesn't not make me happy to do my work, though it is very necessary (helping abused children). It can make me satisfied, or feel good, but it's not \"happy\" work.",
"Daily masturbation you say...",
"I mean.. ",
"Meth",
"I can’t make a career off eating pizza and ice cream though. ",
"Guess I'm going to quit my job and stop pooping. ",
"You should also do what allows you to do what makes you happy.",
"What if you already jerk off and eat chocolate everyday?",
"Not working makes me happy, along with having the money to travel frequently.\n\n\n...\n\nWell shit.",
"Happy: Not going to work\n\nDo every day: Go to work\n\nI don't know if this will work...",
"Happy: Becoming Dexter Morgan and seeking solace in dismembering my enemies and dumping them in the Atlantic.\n\nEveryday: Function like a normal human and pretend that the made up ethics and morals around me matter.\n\nSociety and it's made up moral high ground and laws won't let me be happy. Try again op."
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"wow ur super funny",
"Ironic that your sarcasm happens to be true in every way.",
"not as ironic as the fact that you posted this on a funny sub",
"Ha funny I just posted a picture of a car with bumper stickers of two losers.",
"That’s the joke silly! Wow! Guess you can’t find humor in the truth. So so sad.",
"sad! bigly sad.",
"best thing about this is that the bumper stickers are actually funny. its just the lame ass title that ruined it.",
"You’re perhaps the biggest clown I’ve seen on Reddit thus far. The fact that you include your children in your political stunts in beyond shameful. You’re not funny, you’re probably less that educated and looks like your a tad on the fat side. ",
"“Probably less that educated” well I see you make sense. Did someone get offended a little butthurt? Waaah! Fat shaming that’s cool. I’m a handsome bastard!",
"Replace the “t” with an “n”—you’re a grown man and use the term “butthurt”. Grow up. You’re just a clown who is overtly proud for being a conservative prick—not that all conservatives are pricks but you, friend, fit the bill.",
"Ha triggered little bitch about two losers in a post! MAGA SUCKER! ",
"You are the stereotype.",
"Yes, yes I am the stereotypical person that loves a winner. ",
"Ironically, you don’t seem like a winner.",
"Aww you are such a sad and pathetic person. ",
"I can just tell from they way you speak, or write, that you are incompetent and delusional; I mean the evidence is abundantly clear but, honestly, it’s hard to believe that people like you exist. After two million years of evolution I would assume that the human species, or the genes it passes on, would have selected against you.",
"Yes the evidence is abundantly clear neither are in the White House! Both are losers. Wow! Who’s delusional?",
"I’m talking about you...not who’s in the White House—has nothing to do with him. You’re not a winner because you’re candidate one. He is not a reflection of you and you are not a reflection of him. If you think you have anything in common with that man you have some reflecting to do.",
"“You’re candidate one” this is the level of intelligence I am dealing with.",
"You don’t understand auto-correct? You’re not even responding to the points I made whereas I have not made any effort to point out the very obvious grammatical flaws in your sentences. ",
"What do you do when your candidate loses? Like, in the past? ",
"Well the 12 years before Trump we were losing. You’re really butthurt. I love it!",
"You weren’t winning or losing—what happens in Washington has nothing to do with you. No one cares about how you feel or why you feel that way.\n\nBut, like, how did you live? You seem to live vicariously through another man. Politics seems to be the entirety of your existence. \n\nWhy do you speak like a twelve-year-old? ",
"As fun as this is. I have to say, it’s been fun. I have to get off reddit for now. I do have a life. \nLast thing though “speak like a twelve year old”. Wow you really aren’t very sharp! You’ve heard me speak?",
"The written word is a form of speech; that’s why it’s protected as free-speech. So, really, no matter how asinine what you say is, you still have the right to say it. Yes, that’s how you speak and I venture to guess that you use the same childish language in your ‘real-life’.",
"Sorry to here you lost the title OP! ",
"...and from Illinois! ",
"Nah you're dumbass comments are what's wrong with this site. Trump ironic stickers posted all the time and I'm sure they are filled with 50 comments by you and people like you. God forbid there be something you don't agree with.",
"you lost, bitch",
"your* lol",
"cocaines a hell of a drug.",
">I can just tell from they way you speak, or write, that you are incompetent and delusional; I mean the evidence is abundantly clear but, honestly, it’s hard to believe that people like you exist. After two million years of evolution I would assume that the human species, or the genes it passes on, would have selected against you.\n\nr/iamverysmart",
">You don’t understand auto-correct? You’re not even responding to the points I made whereas I have not made any effort to point out the very obvious grammatical flaws in your sentences. \n\nBut ya haven't made any",
"How about the fact that his candidate won doesn’t make him a winner? Or that his life seems so wrapped up in politics—of which he is not a part—that I have to wonder what his identity is otherwise. Or that I think it’s sad that his children will never have the chance to think about the world they live in without their overbearing father bellowing political untruths in their ears.",
">How about the fact that his candidate won doesn’t make him a winner?\n\ni dont recall him stating that it did. but considering all the good that the current potus has been doing, its hard not to feel like a winner. \n\n>Or that his life seems so wrapped up in politics—of which he is not a part—that I have to wonder what his identity is otherwise.\n\npolitics affects *literally* everyone. and you assume that because hes been harping on politics on this thread, or even if thats all he talks about on *reddit*, that he is a 2 dimensional cartoon character who talks and thinks about nothing but politics - especially considering that he was doing it with someone who gets so angry about them that they cant think rationally?\n\n>Or that I think it’s sad that his children will never have the chance to think about the world they live in without their overbearing father bellowing political untruths in their ears.\n\nand thats a point? your *opinion* is a point? you clearly feel that your opinions are 'truer' than his as well, to the point that you worry about his children. really? and you see this internet stranger as an *overbearing father*, because he trolled you? well, at least youre creative. too bad youve obviously lost the plot long ago. ",
"Okay. He clearly thinks he’s a winner because his ‘candidate’ won. It makes him feel good, in his daily life, this far removed from the election. That’s sad. And we could argue about the ‘good’ this President has done, or not done. And, yes, politics necessarily affects everyone. I’m not sure that that’s the point. If someone who leans more politically my way, shall we say, acted like this(even if it was just on the internet), I would assume that I would feel the same way. When Barack Obama won office in 2008 and 2012, I did not feel like a winner; what happens in Washington doesn’t have any effect upon the quality of my human experience and perhaps that’s because I’m fortunate; it has no bearing upon the quality of my interpersonal relationships either. Man, I think anyone(and I’m sure you could find evidence somewhere of me contradicting myself) who speaks the way this guy does is a fucking clown and is exactly as you described him: a two-dimensional character. I think anyone who puts a photo of their children on the fucking internet in a politically-fused post is exactly that. I’m not sure what the ‘plot’ is and my point is that based on all of the available evidence I can quite easily and quite quickly surmise that the man in question is a fucking douchebag who fits very easily the negative stereotype of so many of my fellow Americans. This guy is a fucking embarrassment. ‘MAGA’: what kind of adult goes around touting a fucking acronym like this or actually buys clothing with this written across the front of it? ",
"This guy puts fucking Make America Great Again hats on his fucking children and then puts those on the internet...come on, man. ",
">He clearly thinks he’s a winner because his ‘candidate’ won.\n\nyoure clearly a mind reader. \n\n> It makes him feel good, in his daily life, this far removed from the election. That’s sad.\n\nits sad that it makes someone happy that a politician is doing things that he approves of? the fact that you think that is sad is sad actually. \n\n>And we could argue about the ‘good’ this President has done, or not done. \n\ni have a feeling we actually couldnt. \n\n>If someone who leans more politically my way, shall we say, acted like this(even if it was just on the internet), I would assume that I would feel the same way.\n\ni wouldnt. id be surprised if it werent *you* doing it in fact.\n\n>When Barack Obama won office in 2008 and 2012, I did not feel like a winner; what happens in Washington doesn’t have any effect upon the quality of my human experience and perhaps that’s because I’m fortunate;\n\nor eight years younger. so youre angry with this guy because he . . . isn't you?\n\n>it has no bearing upon the quality of my interpersonal relationships either.\n\nand nothing else matter to you but those things? its something that makes him happy. youre of the opinion that *his happiness is wrong*. \n\n>Man, I think anyone(and I’m sure you could find evidence somewhere of me contradicting myself) who speaks the way this guy does is a fucking clown and is exactly as you described him: a two-dimensional character. \n\nmay you someday learn that *they dont exist*. for your own good, as well as those who must have dealings with you. \n\n> I think anyone who puts a photo of their children on the fucking internet in a politically-fused post is exactly that.\n\nwhy? what if it were a picture of a favorite vacation spot? not human enough? what about pictures of himself and children with a celebrity they bought tickets to see? what about a religious figure, like their preacher? or a christmas card? or all wearing sports jerseys? why is it *the politics that makes you judge this person that you clearlyu understand isnt linked with them beyond being a fanboy?* these are rhetorical questions of course. \n \n>I’m not sure what the ‘plot’ is and my point is that based on all of the available evidence I can quite easily and quite quickly surmise that the man in question is a fucking douchebag who fits very easily the negative stereotype of so many of my fellow Americans.\n\nsays the guy shitting himself about the types of pictures another man takes. and his political affiliations. or how he likes to mess with people like *you* on the internet. \n\n>This guy is a fucking embarrassment.\n\na stranger embarrasses you because he doesnt do what you think he should do. interesting. \n\n> ‘MAGA’: what kind of adult goes around touting a fucking acronym like this or actually buys clothing with this written across the front of it?\n\nim wearing a shirt that says 'grand canyon' on it right now. got a fucking problem with that too, fashion police wanna be asshat fuckin judgemental pile of hypocritical dogshit fuckboi? another rhetorical question of course. idgaf what a piece of shit like you thinks. you can take your double standards and cram them all the way up your fuckin shithole. there should be plenty of room in there, since you just pulled all the *problems* you have with this guy out of your ass. go reflect on yourself. judge yourself. dictate what *you* fucking wear, and the pictures *you* like to take and what makes *you* happy and what makes *you* feel good about whatever it is that youre into. *nobody* who is worth a fiddlers fuck as a human being gets this bent out of shape by what someone else fucking *likes*. youre a fucking bully. piss off. \n\n",
">This guy puts fucking Make America Great Again hats on his fucking children and then puts those on the internet...come on, man.\n\nYeah call fuckin CPS on 'em so they can laugh at you too. ",
"You use the word ‘fuckboi’. You are also a clown. MAGA.",
">You use the word ‘fuckboi’. You are also a clown. MAGA.\n\njust something else for your fragile mind to get bent over i guess",
"MAGA"
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The ultimate loser
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[
"Fuck yeah, man\n\n",
"Nothing beats drugs, though",
"Let's be real, Pabst ain't the best beer anyway\n\nGood for you! You should feel good about yourself",
"Good for you man. So you went up in weight as a result of kicking booze or down. (Sorry, I am using a French keyboard, can't find anything.) Just wanted to know cause I'm a buck thirty and thinking about doing same. Wanted to gain a few lbs. also.",
"I mean, I know you're joking, but on the off chance you aren't... sobriety is probably the best thing everyone who's committed to it will ever do, speaking as someone who had to. None of us is ever really out of the woods, and I'm proud of anyone who has the stones to make that change.",
"What’s the arm tatt say?",
"Handsome!",
"I went up in weight. I also was doing heroin and cocaine all day on top of the drinking. ",
"\"Nocturnal\" in Russian",
"Hell yeah man. Doing good!",
"Props not Pabst. You still look constipated, though.",
"Thx",
"The people who enjoy posting and upvoting these posts and also love encouraging others on their journey ought to subscribe to /r/progresspics as well. These kinds of posts have become very popular on /r/pics recently and the dedicated sub and posters could really use the traffic and kind words.\n\n"
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July 2017 vs January 2018. 120lbs vs 160lbs. Depressed vs happy. Getting sober is the best thing I've done.
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[
"Good job Papa!",
"I am so afraid to ask. Is...Is that really your dj'ing grandpa?",
"TIL Suddam Hussein survived his execution. ",
"It's Saddam Hussein my dude",
"DJ Kurd Killah!",
"I miss him 😔",
"The report of his death has been greatly exaggerated, I reckon.",
"I was asking to be polite because maybe their grandpa looked like Saddam, I wasn't gonna jump to any conclusions in case I was wrong. But thanks my dude. ",
"DJ ‘Dam and the Kurd Killas.",
"I thought I was on r/fakehistoryporn for a second",
"That’s a pretty good policy to adhere to, especially when you’re at retirement homes",
"Or pregnant/possibly pregnant ladies, you know?? I just like to be safe. ",
"Yeah, hard to recover from the classic “pregnant Saddam” misidentification ",
"Pretty sure George Noory is still active in his career, living at home, and his wife doing just fine."
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This is my grandpa. He has started DJ’ing at his assisted living home since my grandma died to pass the time. He loves it and the other residents love it too! They say it makes them feel like kids again! This is why my Papa will always be my inspiration!!!
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"From just the thumbnail and before reading the caption, I thought it was a pic taken of the ocean from inside a cave. Neat!",
"That's absolutely beautiful. Obvious question: where can I get one?",
"Looks nice. But it's colored, like most agates. Still beautiful though.",
"/r/misleadingthumbnails ",
"It reminds me of a Japanese woodcut print. ",
"hard to believe it's 100% natural, not manipulated in some way\n",
"[Journey to the Center of the Earth](https://i.imgur.com/WotGLRS.jpg)",
"Jesus Christ Marie, it's not an ocean! It's agate!!!",
"It looks a lot like a slice of cheese cake too!",
"So it’s fake. Damn.",
"Last time this was posted, someone found a really similar photo. But I cba looking for it.",
"From a cave ",
"its like the planet created a self portrait",
"I don't see a problem there. It may be colored, but they, it's really great. The color points out the structures in the stone which is really nice.",
"This isn't a dyed agate. I collect agates and this Scottish agate is natural. \n\nIf it was dyed, it would be all one color and definitely wouldn't have the clear areas. \n\nOther examples of Scottish agates.\nhttp://www.agatesofscotland.co.uk/scottishagatesbook.html",
"It's natural. Here are some examples of other Scottish agates.\n\nhttp://www.agatesofscotland.co.uk/scottishagatesbook.html",
"This isn't a dyed agate. I collect agates and this Scottish agate is natural. \n\nIf it was dyed, it would be all one color and definitely wouldn't have the clear areas. \n\nOther examples of Scottish agates showing similar ranges of color.\nhttp://www.agatesofscotland.co.uk/scottishagatesbook.html",
"They are not always one color since certain areas don't accept the as well as others (caused by different composition).\nBut if course I may be wrong. Usually these are colored because naturally the much less exciting.",
"That's generally only true for plain Brazilian agates. \n\nAnyway, I found that it was a Scottish agate and the colors are consistent with other natural Scottish agates.",
"very cool"
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The cross-section of this agate is like looking out onto the ocean.
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/r/pics/comments/7q2qim/it_was_64_degrees_here_last_night/
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[
"Denver? \n",
"Sounds like the east coast....",
"Pittsburgh (suburbs).",
"An hour south of yah in wv. Can say just the same man. ",
"Snow, rain, snow, freezing rain, snow, rain. Typical Michigan Friday in January.",
"Send some here. The southern Rocky mountain skiing is bad right now"
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It was 64 degrees here last night.
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"What station? Like a train station? They want you to poop in a train station?",
"Well what are you supposed to do? Shit in your pants and sit at your desk all day? ",
"Walk to the station apparently which takes less than three seconds. "
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The guy who sits next to the bathroom in our office has had enough of the "odours" and put up this note today.
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[
"This doesn't even make sense, especially since there's no proof the comments were ever said.",
"Shouldn't the Clintons be on the right?",
"You can’t be serious",
"Yea, in a world where anyone who disagrees with something you do, I can be serious that people will gladly lie to stir the pot.",
"There were 15+ people in the room when he spouted this vitriol...u know that right? They have not denied it except for “hair-piece” saying he didn’t “say exactly that” in a roundabout way. Where is the Fucking tweet denying it? And on that point...it’s so comforting to know that my President is sitting on his White House toilet thinking about “reactionary” tweets instead of making sure school teachers make more $! But you keep rooting for him...it’s your choice as an American. So sad. ",
"3 people so far (last I checked) have said they don't recall him saying it... Durbin is a liar and piece of trash on his own so I wouldn't believe anything he says. He'll do or say whatever it takes to keep his job so he doesn't have to do anything productive.",
"No dumbfuck, the racist you voted for is on the right. ",
"Don’t waste your time. Even if Trump admitted that he said it, people would say that’s not what he meant. Besides, this is what they like. Why would they not like it? Their idea of strong leadership is being loud, insulting, and generally ignorant as long as you talk the loudest and talk the most. They have a warped idea of strength that comes from a broken life. Just ignore it.",
"Hey moron even the republicans admit he said that Horrendous shit. Give it up. ",
"He fucking said it. There’s no debate dumbass. Even republicans admit it. ",
"That’s right. Durbin is a liar. Not dear leader, who lied over 2000 times just last year alone. Who lies 5 times a day. It’s Durbin that’s lying. Trump, a man who defended white supremacists, who had racist rental policies back in the 80s, who thinks all black people know each other, who referred to Africa is being made up of mud huts, is clearly not the one that would lie about uttering a racial statement that is repulsive and ignorant. It’s clearly Durbin that’s lying about something that a dozen other people heard Trump say or didn’t say.\n\nTHINK THINK THINK THINK THINK\n\nEdit: And why the fuck would Paul Ryan come out and distance himself from a statement unless he knew for certain that Trump actually said it? I bet you are probably a normal individual and can function normally and other parts of your life. Why is it that there is a big fat mental gap when it comes to looking at anything objectively related to trump?",
"The Clintons stole millions from Haiti funds. Haiti is a shithole, in part due to them. I'm glad he's the president even more now that I know it burns you. How does that make you feel? Bad? Good.",
"Yes",
"It's not exactly the most presidential thing ever said, but Haiti IS a shithole.",
"Realistically it is yes but it doesn't mean the people living their are worthless. Do you honestly think someone like Einstein would have gotten as far as he did if he were born in a place like Haiti.",
"so are these even trying anymore or is this just karma whoring? and reading \"hole of shit\" made my eyes cross.",
"He didn't call the people shitholes, he was talking about the place they live. \nHe is right, and a week ago most people would have agreed. \n\nIf they aren't shitholes, why are people trying so desperately to leave? ",
"It's going to be a long 7 years for some people. ",
"Nice diatribe based on zero evidence. 1 year in and Trump can’t stop talking about Hillary. Yeah your president is a racist. Oh yeah, he’s a the worst thing to happen to this country too. Great job! ",
"[Clintons had children abducted from Haiti](http://rebrn.com/re/whip-up-a-haitian-special-extra-cheese-3099443/)\n.... ... \n\n[and ran off with billions of dollars from Haiti](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/former-haitian-senate-president-world-trusted-clintons-help-haitian-people-deceived/)",
"Is that all your good at? Name calling everyone who doesn't agree with you?",
"huh? a brilliant person overcomes all obstacles - born poor, born w/no education, born w/out parents - because brilliance is seen by everyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Haitians \na 'place like Haiti'? what does that mean? & why is it a 'sh*thole'? because of politics.",
">It's not exactly the most presidential thing ever said\n\nIt would be in the running for least presidential thing ever said if he wasn't incessantly saying unpresidential things",
"You don't get refugee status because you want to move away. There's a difference between an American moving to England, and an African refugee fleeing the shithole they live in. You're comparing apples to oranges and making no sense. \n\n",
">people are presently fleeing the usa because of trump. \n\nI bet they're not going to Africa or Haiti. \n\nSecondly, no they aren't. No one is \"fleeing Trump\" that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here. Are you seriously deluded? \n\nI bet you believed he was going to be rounding up gay people and putting them in concentration camps. \n\nWho would want to leave the USA? The jobs are coming back, plenty of pay rises from some major companies. Not to mention the stock market is through the roof. \n\nWho is leaving the USA? Lena Dunham? She didn't leave, she was a virtue signaling loser who talked the talk but couldn't walk the walk. Amy Schumer? Bryan Cranston? Chelsea Handler? All idiots that can afford to move wherever they want, but didn't. Despite all saying they would leave the USA if Trump was elected. \n\n",
"7 years? Ha! Less than 7 months left of this dumbfuck. ",
"Haha, sure. The doctor said he was in excellent health, he isn't going anywhere. ",
"being born without parents would be s first",
"https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-suppressed-haitis-minimum-wage/ \npersonally - this makes me sick - cause it's unfortunate to think that America (a land I love) would be so influential & greedy. sometimes reading about America & things like this make me feel like we could be considered the most corrupt nation in the world - $0.31/hr - we should be ashamed - I am. but then - everyone needs dockers, right? \n& now - our president - someone who ought to hold compassion & empathy & diplomacy & have an understanding of history says this place is a 'sh*thole' - when our country is partially the reason their country is in such a state - well, idk - but it's just not right. it's just not right. ",
"Impeachment moron. ",
"For what? Haha. \n\nYou can't impeach someone simply because Bernie still has a chance to win. ",
"there are tons of haitians born here and its still just tens of illegitimate kids per household, no education, terribly violent, disgusting neighborhoods, etc.. Theres always an excuse. Germany lost two world wars, had crippling debts imposed on them, japan had two fucking nukes dropped on them and was colonized. A good culture and society is all it takes. All these excuses are just bullshit to make white liberals feel better. These communities dont need to be handled with kid gloves anymore its not doing anyone any fucking favors. Pretending like haiti and black communities are fine and that its all because of whites is insane as well. \nHaiti was actually a fairly prosperous nation until they murdered, raped and tortured every last white man, woman and child on the island. \n**Two nukes being dropped on an island or genociding all the whites and putting blacks in charge, which would you think hurts a country more?**",
"/u/Citizenicu, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule IV - Title violates title guidelines.\n\nYour title must convey accurate information. \n\nYou can read the full information about our title guidelines at /r/pics/w/titles\n\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/Citizenicu&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2qkm/on_the_left_is_a_picture_of_a_haitian_child_on/?context=10\\))",
"I dont believe anything the media says anymore, I dont know how the entirety of the US still places even a shred of credibility in the media, when its clear they are just another branch of the democratic party and have abandoned \"reporting news\" at this point. \naccording to the US media and liberals this was a gentle giant on his way to the library and trump had a 1% chance of winning and would put minorities in camps. \nhttps://www.liveleak.com/view?i=996_1489455614\n",
"https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw0uFATW8AEv9F7.jpg \nThis was parroted by almost all of the media and retards like you, even reddit had pretty much declared the contest over. Even 538, as close to reputable as left wing news gets in the US, gave him like a 20% chance of winning during election night.",
"Haiti being a shithole is ignorant? They literally were throwing babies into big piles of corpses during the earthquakes and now eat mud pies. They also murdered, raped and tortured every last white man, woman and child on the island which is why its in the state it is now and 99.99% black. How does it still have any problems if its a liberal utopian society now and so diverse and free of the white devil? Its almost like black people are incapable of creating peaceful, safe, civilized, prosperous societies anywhere in the world with any condition and any amount of help.",
"Emoluments, money laundering, collusion, tax evasion...take your pick. "
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On the left is a picture of a Haitian child. On the right is a picture of a hole of shit.
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"Made it to the third echo before I realized the bamboozle",
"Would be more impressed if done in semaphore. ",
"Rick rolled!"
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He he he
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"(X-post from r/uruguay)",
" It’s tough to lose a buddy.",
"\"...and keep him brightly lit as he journeys upon the unmarked road...\""
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Group of friends join together to say goodbye to a loved one.
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"Why would you post to a sub without even looking at its first rule?",
"Rules shmules",
"/u/tibbyholic, thank you for your submission! Unfortunately, it has been removed for violating the following rule(s):\n\n* Rule I - No screenshots. This includes pictures of screens and photos where the interest is the contents of a screen.\n\n\n\nFor information regarding this and similar issues please see the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/about/rules/) and [title guidelines](/r/pics/w/titles). If you have any questions, please feel free to [message the moderators.](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=/r/pics&subject=Question regarding the removal of this submission by /u/tibbyholic&message=I have a question regarding the removal of this [submission.](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7q2srb/why_would_someone_search_this/?context=10\\))"
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Why would someone search this?
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/r/pics/comments/7q2uol/got_my_ears_did_started_gauging_my_ears_10_years/
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"congrats! you'd look awesome either way! happy for you!",
"Thank you! It was a very personal decision. ",
"Well done! ",
"Ah I only just sat there and squeezed a stress ball, but thanks! ",
"You were awake for that?",
"Yep, but numbed tf up. Was distracted for the first lobe, but it was silent for the second. I could hear the scalpel cutting it and it was spooooky. ",
"How big were they? They wouldn't grow back? ",
"I apologize in advance... what the heck is in your temple, madam?? ",
"Was it expensive?",
"I’m thinking it costs around $1000, but my godfather did it gratis for my graduation present",
"Looking good."
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Got my ears did! Started gauging my ears 10 years ago and finally got the opportunity to repair the damage as I’m graduating and going into graduate school. Just the biggest damn relief!
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[
"Looks more like he managed to escape from that cage someone put him in.",
"Pretty much like that. It kept him pretty secure 😀",
"A kid cage.",
"That pretty much encapsulates China in the 1950s.",
"Cute."
] | 5 |
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My son in a rural chinese seat made in 1950's and used for 3 generations
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/r/pics/comments/7q2xeo/seems_practical/
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[
"Its actually ergonomic and quite comfortable.",
"Certainly safer than holding the cell phone directly against your head. Convenient, no.",
"There's actually a purse shaped like an old fashioned phone that has this same feature. Quite unique and comes in handy ",
"Seriously, I feel bad for people who've never enjoyed a phone conversation holding one of the big, comfortable handsets that you could actually hear the other person through. Cell phones, as phones, are shit.",
"Kinda nice if you need to look at your calendar or other contacts while talking to someone."
] | 5 |
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Seems practical
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/r/pics/comments/7q2ye5/so_my_schools_photocopier_messed_up_pretty_bad/
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[
"Ahh, the Trump 2018 model.",
"Looks pretty shady to me.",
"*You have not unlocked this child yet.*",
"The Obama racial divide program at work"
] | 4 |
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So my school's photocopier messed up pretty bad...
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/r/pics/comments/7q2yrr/walked_out_of_my_bedroom_to_find_penny_in_a_bit/
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[
"I usually find a penny or two in the side of the couch.",
"You mean in between cushions?",
"I do and the way you phrased it was much better lol.",
"It was inspired by you!",
"Well here's an up vote, maybe we can share the karma together lol."
] | 5 |
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Walked out of my bedroom to find Penny in a bit of a pickle
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/r/pics/comments/7q2zzl/i_went_to_london/
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[
"This needs to be on r/roastme",
"Hahaha, if only I had the sign!",
"I think it may be excepted still!",
"Holmes didn’t wear Marmot!",
"I especially like that \"Inspector Gadget\" satellite dish coming out of your hat."
] | 5 |
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I Went To London
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/r/pics/comments/7q312c/swedish_mcdonalds_has_a_pretty_clear_employment/
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[
"Moving to Sweden!",
"It’s Sweden it has the highest rape rate in the world",
"USA has the highest rape stats. ",
"Noooooo, Sweden",
"Troll",
"Pardon? Who do you think you are calling a troll sir, I am a gentlemen. I am not a simple troll. I was bringing light to a serious issue faced by millions of Swedish women. Frankly your privilege disgusts me and you shouldn’t call yourself a real man. The fact you would excuse the rape in sweden is beyond deplorable. Don’t you have a daughter, a mother, a sister perhaps? Think about their needs and rights.",
"How did that brunette make it pass HR?",
"I am not discounting rape is a horrible thing, you stated that Sweden has the highest rate of rape, which is simply not true. The USA has the highest rate for rape. No rape, anywhere is obviously the goal. I am not excusing rape anywhere. But it looks like rape in Sweden has a higher percentage, but the USA has a larger population so their percentage is lower. ",
"You have a point Sir Troll!",
"This looks to me like a Model Agency... with food",
"I think you both need to revisit the statistics. \n\nSouth Africa, by far has the worst situation.",
"I'm inclined to agree with you mate but I can't take you seriously with you talking like a WW1 RAF officer",
"Sweden's rape statistics are skewed because we take the issue seriously. If 5 people rape one person it's considered 5 rapes, while in America if the same thing happens it counts as 1 rape, in crime stats. You're either uninformed or misinformed. ",
"Thats racist",
"Statistical data is racist?",
"I did the heavy lifting for you\n\n[Statistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#By_country)",
"Fake news"
] | 17 |
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Swedish McDonalds has a pretty clear employment policy
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